🔧│keyboard_modding

[fluid ravine]

(Celebrate as in open presents)

i have no clue

[void hollow]

just presents no dinner?

[stable kindle]

New 2024 version SAT study book? Lol

[fluid ravine]

but my mom is gonna get me a mousepad :)

[stable kindle]

Can also use as mouse pad

[fluid ravine]

including that lol]

[void hollow]

wtf, your mom does you so well?

[untold wigeon]

wtf

[stable kindle]

Which pad? And why

[fluid ravine]

Zowie GSR SE Gris

[void hollow]

ayoo

wtf

no way

[fluid ravine]

thats why

lol

[stable kindle]

I see it's the perfect size

It was meant to be

[void hollow]

you play on high sens or something?

[fluid ravine]

😂

low sens

[void hollow]

you make do with that

[sweet oak]

Dual wielding tape measures, i need one

[stable kindle]

Bet you can fit an act and sat book in that space too

[sand oasis]

Perfect keyboard angle

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[void hollow]

damn i put mine like straight xD

[stable kindle]

Yeah cause we are intellectuals

[sweet oak]

Same

[void hollow]

like straight straight no ocd or shit but like

[sand oasis]

Nah 45 degree tilt

[fluid ravine]

lol

[void hollow]

im someone who loves access to like my full size keys thats why

[sand oasis]

Ftw

[fluid ravine]

tru

[sweet oak]

I just only slide it to the left or right depending on games

[fluid ravine]

i play 45 degrees

[stable kindle]

Any thoughts on the artisan zero? Just marketing hype or does someone actually have it that can comment?

[void hollow]

yeah i do slide its end towards myself at times, like 10 degree to 25 degree at most

[fluid ravine]

ik in pic doesnt seem like it but i was moving it around for the measuring tape

[void hollow]

im currently using the fx zero

[sweet oak]

Yeah i mainly slide it for my rhythm games, soo comfortable

[void hollow]

its a great mousepad, but it gets dirty really easily

[velvet egret]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[fluid ravine]

o i heard the zero pad is reallly goood

[fluid ravine]

Merry Christmas!!!

[void hollow]

yea i asked what deskpad to get previously

[stable kindle]

How is it better than the standard pad?

[void hollow]

someone suggested me to get 3 of the fx zero xl LMAO

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[sweet oak]

Im currently waiting for my lgg venus pro

Using stock graphic deskmat for now

[stable kindle]

I have a xl hyper x fury. Had it for 6 years and it's showing it's age. Looking to upgrade

[fluid ravine]

:0

6 years weoew

[sweet oak]

Good ol cleaning can make em last

[stable kindle]

Yeah you were like 3 years old then

[sand oasis]

I need to clean mine as well

And my keycaps but I’m lazy

[fluid ravine]

LMAO 3 IS CRAZY

😂

[void hollow]

i previously rock the asus scabbard v1 which was pretty much a mid speed pad, but my current fx zero xl soft, i feel its like almost the same but with even more control. the fx series features the better edges so it doesnt string out and the material of the fx zero feels quite good imo.

my final review is that like you dont really need to spend a whole lot of money on a mousepad like the artisan pads. its overadvertised, overexaggerated but overall id say that its a good experience to be able to try it out for yourself

[stable kindle]

I would say I wash my pad like every 3-5 months

[marsh saffron]

I wish I didn't go xsoft on my zero

[stable kindle]

How quick do you notice your dead skin cells on the pad?

[stable kindle]

Y

[void hollow]

my room does get dusty easily and yea its annoying, dead skin cells do fall on the mousepad really easily i guess? but i usually swipe them off before i can accumulate them on my mousepad.

for the fx zero i took really good care of it, i put nothing on my mousepad other than my mouse itself (no phone no power bank no random shit)

but one think to take note of though that i noticed is that the mousepad scratches really easily, so dont try to use ur finger to scrape off something stuck in the mousepad, it will cause a mark (even my mouse scratches the mousepad, is it a me problem?)

[marsh saffron]

Now that I use glass pad it feels like shit

Feels like mud pad

[fluid ravine]

waaaaat

interesante

[sweet oak]

I like myself some cloth speed

[stable kindle]

Your mouse scratches it??? How do you wash it?

[sweet oak]

Glass would be something id prob hate

[fluid ravine]

I neeed a control pad myself

:p

[marsh saffron]

I love it, so fast. Ironically I have really bad tremors though🤣

[fluid ravine]

D:

[stable kindle]

Saw glass pads stick to your wrists and arms though unless you wear a degen wrist sleeve

[void hollow]

i think when i play fps i hold my mouse down a little tighter thats why when i track enemies it scratches it

[marsh saffron]

Just use a hoodie sleeve or long sleeve shirt

[fluid ravine]

would you sometimes need a sleev for cloth pad?

[marsh saffron]

Bros mad about people using wrist sleeves

People also use them on cloth as well

[fluid ravine]

o

any benefits somehow?

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[stable kindle]

Absolute degens. That's not my opinion

[marsh saffron]

Don't need to worry about sweat slowing your arm down

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[marsh saffron]

It is, stay mad about it though

[stable kindle]

Objective fact, go open pg 23 of times magazine 2021, it's there

[marsh saffron]

That's very much so an opinion

[fluid ravine]

;-;

[void hollow]

my posture is dogshit tbh thats probably why my skin is touching the mousepad and that its fairly annoying.

[marsh saffron]

Regardless

[stable kindle]

2nd paragraph line 2

[fluid ravine]

dunno what yall talking abt

[marsh saffron]

I don't have issues on my glass pad, I just wear long sleeves or hoodies

[sweet oak]

Not a huge fan of high control, my 120g mouse feels so waaah with em

[marsh saffron]

120g

Chunky boy

[void hollow]

i feel that the sleeve would be nice lol since it doesnt slow my wrist/arm down as much but i feel its a stretch to do it all the time when i gameee

[stable kindle]

Apparently I'm mad though so I'm sticking to it 😆

[marsh saffron]

It is nice, they are just mad about it for some reason

[sweet oak]

My desks are always just too tall that i cant help my arms touching the pad lol

[void hollow]

fr my g502 feels so sluggish on a control pad

[stable kindle]

Why would a man want their wrists to be touched

[marsh saffron]

I made my own but don't use it anymore

Dawg what

[sweet oak]

Very chunky but i love em

[void hollow]

ye my desk is either too tall or my chair doesn't go high enough xD thats the problem, im like 169cm tall and i cant get a good posture on my mouse

[stable kindle]

I swapped from my g502 to a super light 2 a couple months ago to see what all the hype was about.

[sweet oak]

Got that long legs and arms but shorter torso build

[marsh saffron]

I use lamzu mice

[polar girder]

You can always use a sleeve. Prob only recommended for glass pad tho

[marsh saffron]

Switched off my gpx a while ago

Now I hate gpx shape

[sweet oak]

Using basilisk v3 pro currently

Been fun

[void hollow]

im waiting on my finalmouse ulx, hopefully qc doesnt fail me

[stable kindle]

Now Whenever I use my wife's 502 it feels like I'm trying to move a brick

[marsh saffron]

I'm gonna get ulx when QC gets better

Ulx large

[sweet oak]

Thats a good plan

[marsh saffron]

Gonna see if I like it or not

[fluid ravine]

i dont really thiknk i would like slow control pads
i think med speed or a little bit faster would be good for me
i use a hyperx pulsefire haste 2 wirless so :p 60g

[void hollow]

once my ulx comes im gonna have 2 bricks

my 100g g502 mini brick
and my redux60he BRICK

[limpid oyster]

Looks great man! What caps and usb cord are those??

[marsh saffron]

I'm not ordering ulx until like 8-10 batches are made

Not taking chances with finalmeme QC

[void hollow]

im on batch 2 i think

[sweet oak]

Yeah thats why im picking up the venus pro, heard its more towards speed and it was on decent sale so now was a best time to pick one up, just waiting for delivery to get a full feel of it

[fluid ravine]

i love the shape of ghpx :)

[marsh saffron]

I hate it now that I've been using lamzu

It's got no hump

[stable kindle]

Initially I did, my wrists got tender from rubbing on the cloth. Then I decided to be a man about it and built up my wrist skin using a cheese grater

[marsh saffron]

So uncomfortable for claw and ftip

Ftipping gpx is the only somewhat comfortable way to hold it for me

[sweet oak]

Mouse bumps are so comfy

[fluid ravine]

your hands big?

[marsh saffron]

But the flat sides make it annoying

[marsh saffron]

Fairly yeah

[fluid ravine]

mm

[fluid ravine]

cus now i think abt it
i think my claw grip is a little weird

but idk

[stable kindle]

Measure it, what's your span? I bet lil tenz is bigger.

[void hollow]

im gonna transition from a g502 to a ulx medium, hope that i can get used to it

[marsh saffron]

Like 20x12

[sweet oak]

Good luck with the transition

[stable kindle]

Took me a few days but I went from 120g to 53g now I can't go back

[marsh saffron]

Lightweight mice are so nice

[fluid ravine]

fr

[marsh saffron]

Ulx being 37g will be fun

[fluid ravine]

finna flick it to the wall

weeeeeeeeeee

[marsh saffron]

My lamzu is like 55g

[sweet oak]

Id let go and flick it into my pc

[marsh saffron]

My mini is 49g

But I can't use mini anymore

[void hollow]

its the size diff im scared of

[fluid ravine]

How to measure 👀

[fluid ravine]

OH GOOD LUCK HAHA

[void hollow]

oh lol we pulled out the same webpage xD

[marsh saffron]

Measure the width of your hand at your knuckles and length from where your palm starts to middle finger

[sweet oak]

Switching to a non-side grip can be weird at first

[fluid ravine]

uh inches or cm

or mm

[marsh saffron]

Cm

[fluid ravine]

how should i have my hand

[polar girder]

Yeah I need a half weight ambi ftip mouse

[halcyon obsidian]

If you want maybe a smoother transition consider trying the dav3

[polar girder]

Might go ulx small or vv2 pro mod

[marsh saffron]

I just spread my hand out

[void hollow]

waiting later this evening for my 2nd set of keycaps to arrive

[marsh saffron]

My only option for ulx is large

[sweet oak]

Schweet

[void hollow]

replacing the "sidelit crap"

[marsh saffron]

I wouldn't be able to comfortably use/use at all any other sizes besides large

[sweet oak]

I went with chocolate akko keycaps

Fit my setup nicely

[fluid ravine]

length is 19cm

[void hollow]

the sides are kat while the alphas are kam

[fluid ravine]

im confused on the width

[sweet oak]

Spicy

[fluid ravine]

width is prob 12 im guessing

or 11 1/2

some shi 😭

[marsh saffron]

How tf you using small mice

[polar girder]

@fluid ravine

[fluid ravine]

thanks :D

width 10cm

[polar girder]

Yeah I’m 20x10 fingertip grip

[fluid ravine]

L: 19cm
W: 10cm

[fluid ravine]

my mouse is smool?

[marsh saffron]

I thought you said you were gonna get ulx small or something

Or am I thinking of a different person

[fluid ravine]

i didnt say iw as buying a mice

different person

i have a hyperx pulsefire haste 2 wirless

[marsh saffron]

Ah

[fluid ravine]

is there different ways to hold a claw grip

[polar girder]

I said that

[marsh saffron]

^

[polar girder]

And I have 20x10

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[polar girder]

Zoom In

It’s legible lol

[marsh saffron]

I play like pincer claw

[polar girder]

For Tenz Jr without glasses

[sweet oak]

[marsh saffron]

Atlantis og v2

[fluid ravine]

i cant even see it with glasses 💀

[polar girder]

lol bruh

[fluid ravine]

Green is making contact with the mouse right?

[polar girder]

That’s so aggro lol

[marsh saffron]

Yeah i kinda need to

[void hollow]

whai yu hol maice nid so angeri harh

[marsh saffron]

Only other way I can really hold it is ftip

[stable kindle]

this dude missing his pinky

4 fingered freak

[grave kayak]

where u find a tofu redux at

[void hollow]

the mice ate it away

[marsh saffron]

It's there🤣

[stable kindle]

@grave kayakkbdfans

[sweet oak]

I do forward palm grip personally

[stable kindle]

they will charge you $35 for shipping though

[void hollow]

wow but imagine how much faster you will be with just four fingers

[fluid ravine]

this is what i meant by i think my claw grip is weird or whatever

[marsh saffron]

That 4th photo looks like an alien🤣🤣

[sweet oak]

Gleep glorp

[fluid ravine]

index on M1, middle on/in front of scroll wheel, ring is on M2

[stable kindle]

i have pincer claw

[fluid ravine]

:)

hab skinny hands and arms

[stable kindle]

you use your middle finger for the mouse wheel WHAT THE HELL

[fluid ravine]

IK

[marsh saffron]

Apex player probably

I do it too

When I need to

[void hollow]

the first two pic is pretty much how i hold my mouse too

[stable kindle]

is this what the zoomers are up to these days ?

thats crazy

[grave kayak]

thats not a zoomer thing lmfao

[void hollow]

for what though

[marsh saffron]

It's for scroll hopping while aiming

[grave kayak]

thats just person to person

[fluid ravine]

I play val
obv 🙄

[polar girder]

Carpal stabilized claw maybe

1-3-1

[fluid ravine]

my scroll wheel is my secondary bind to jump

[stable kindle]

same here

[grave kayak]

get well soon lil bro

[fluid ravine]

thats what i was thinking

[sweet oak]

Its all comin together

Maximize bhop

[marsh saffron]

On apex I play finger middle scroll so I can do movement while shooting and aiming

[void hollow]

im the spacebar csgo bhopper xD

[fluid ravine]

yep lol

[sweet oak]

Same

[marsh saffron]

Freak

[void hollow]

ive did it for too many hours tbh, it was like before bhop even got that famous

[marsh saffron]

I use middle finger scroll and that's weird

[void hollow]

so i was like too lazy to learn the scrollwheel

[sweet oak]

Remember doing titanfall 2 bhop on controller so much

[grave kayak]

this what im buying my wooting for

[void hollow]

and it felt wierd

[void hollow]

to control your honda 2018?

[fluid ravine]

i use fingertip for normal stuff

[sweet oak]

Based spoof

[grave kayak]

normal wheel aint cutting it

[void hollow]

analog wooting honda 2018

[grave kayak]

need to use kb and mouse

[marsh saffron]

Idk what makes me decide between claw or ftip

I just kinda play both depending on how I'm feeling

[sweet oak]

Probably just in-the-moment times

[void hollow]

when i decide to play serious i play like shit

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

I WAS LINKING THAT

[polar girder]

Which size ULX?

[marsh saffron]

LOL

Great minds think alike

[sweet oak]

Illl rarely do the 3 finger top out of necessity

[fluid ravine]

heh

real

[stable kindle]

i do miss my 502 freespin scroll wheel though

[void hollow]

when i decide to focus up, i play better

[marsh saffron]

I never had a mouse with that

[stable kindle]

and my back and forward button for webpages

[void hollow]

when i play normally i play normally

[sweet oak]

When i focus up i suck

[marsh saffron]

Gonna mod my lamzu for a free spin scroll wheel

[void hollow]

i somehow had it for a mouse i bought for office (razer pro click mini)

[grave kayak]

do i need any of this

[sweet oak]

My basilisk has one

[grave kayak]

for the tofu redux

[void hollow]

internal brass weight

[sweet oak]

I use the thing thats makes it auto freespin

[stable kindle]

@marsh saffronhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWBrT3vMcyA

[void hollow]

just get it for the sake of using it for incase intruders

i have the brass weight on my redux too

[sweet oak]

Theyll never expect my high speed scroll potential to crash games

[fluid ravine]

lmao

[void hollow]

feels like im more than ready to take on intruders when i have to

[grave kayak]

what abt the compatible plates?

[void hollow]

dont get the fr4

if you want clack, fr4 sure

if you want thocc, wooting pc plate or stock metal plate

[fluid ravine]

but kinda shit with the lekkers

[grave kayak]

are plates for sound or something

oh ok

[marsh saffron]

Impressive it didn't explode

[sweet oak]

When it doubt, wooting it out (spinsored by alumaze)

[fluid ravine]

feel and sound

[void hollow]

oh shit

yea steel plate, i completely messed it up

[sweet oak]

Steel plates are so nice

[void hollow]

ngl tho the fr4 do be looking kinda cute

[fluid ravine]

did i see honda 2018 user 😭

[grave kayak]

i dont like that uglyass clip thing on the top left T_T

[fluid ravine]

HHAA

[void hollow]

at how i can shield swap without chipping the paint on the plate

[fluid ravine]

o

[sweet oak]

Thats why we case swap

[void hollow]

NO NOT SHIELD SWAP

i mean

SWITCH SWAP

[marsh saffron]

It's for the strap

[grave kayak]

alumaze is lowkey not it

[fluid ravine]

shield 😂

[frail hemlock]

There's only medium yet, but weights as much as the big one according to fm's website

[sweet oak]

Lekker switches FTW

[marsh saffron]

It's awesome I love it

[grave kayak]

is it just purely aesthetic

[void hollow]

i love it too

[fluid ravine]

oo i remember that

[void hollow]

send it to me

[grave kayak]

i see no practical use for it

[fluid ravine]

i like that

[marsh saffron]

Yeah

[void hollow]

which?

[grave kayak]

the strap on

[sweet oak]

Getting custom straps instantly boost lows by +0% (big increase)

[void hollow]

AYO

yes its purely aesthetic

[fluid ravine]

slowly starting to dislike the wrap on my desk

👀

[void hollow]

wrap?

[sweet oak]

Chicken wrap

[void hollow]

tortilla

[fluid ravine]

yeah my dad had the idea of wrapping my desk with some plastic material type sheet

[stable kindle]

yeah he has 4 xl magnum condoms over each desk leg

[void hollow]

i hate thoseee

[sweet oak]

[marsh saffron]

Gotta protect the floor

[stable kindle]

i feel like that would stick to my arm

[fluid ravine]

bro thought it was a good idea to keep it clean in some certain damn way

[stable kindle]

exactly, dont want the floor gettting prego

[fluid ravine]

like
just clean the desk ez

[sweet oak]

Id just rather normally clean

[fluid ravine]

exactly

[stable kindle]

i bought three 78" x 36" x 2" butcher block countertop to cut down into a desk

was thinking about installing these legs on it https://flowyline.com/products/metal-table-legs-401-wishbone

or this https://flowyline.com/products/metal-table-legs-402-wineglass

you guys have any inputs?

[void hollow]

i dont wanna look at desk builds anymore so LMAO, but im rocking an omnidesk classic legs with ikea countertop

[sweet oak]

Lmao i finally got the desk i wanted

Dont wanna think about em for another decade

[stable kindle]

my carbboard ikea desk has been slowly sinking in the middle, had it for almost 9 years now. im due for a forever upgrade

[void hollow]

i brought my parents to ikea to help me get the countertop, i walked straight to it and they asked like 10 billion questions when i already did my research beforehand

[stable kindle]

ye its a good choice, i was thinking about getting an ikea counterstop or one from the bigbox stores

[sweet oak]

I was too lazy to get a countertop

[grave kayak]

why the fuck is shipping 25 dollars

[void hollow]

i wanted to have a wood tabletop and not spend a fortune on omnidesk so yea

#1179300178281373716 message

this is how the table turned out

[stable kindle]

but a dude at lowes offered me ones with some scratches for $99 instead of $400 so picked up 3

[stable kindle]

make sure to tip them too or theyll spit on your keyboard

[sweet oak]

Im just waiting for my monitor lightbar and i think im all setup for a loong time

[void hollow]

25 dollars you have it lucky

don't get me going about shipping fee-

[stable kindle]

@void hollowlooks great man, similar asethetic im aiming for

[sweet oak]

Ye pretty much what i aimed at too

[polar girder]

RIP

[sweet oak]

Except coffee colored rgbs

[stable kindle]

though im aiming to have a 42" monitor next to a couple of 24" so im not sure how im going to make that look nice

[void hollow]

if you're thinking on a custom table build, please make sure it can handle the load you're giving it

[sweet oak]

Probably stack

Thats how id set up a 42 with 24 personally

Hate moving my neck to different screens

[stable kindle]

@void hollowye, ive ran the calculations, full wood butcherblock can handle a few hundred pounds with pointload

@sweet oakhow though? i cant wrap my head around to make it look nice

best i came up with is to have the 42: on the left and the 2 24" on the right stacked

[sweet oak]

Ooh i didnt see the word couple

[stable kindle]

but then like i want to use one to the 24" as the main competitve gaming monitor

actually no, i think with a 42" i wont need 2 24"

[pale marlin]

used the cord that came with the 60he and i used these keycaps https://kbdfans.com/collections/pbtfans-in-stock/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-spark?variant=41527059054731

[void hollow]

prefer running 2 monitors over 1 large monitor

[stable kindle]

thanks man, your msg made me realize i wanted 2 24" for no reason

[void hollow]

a large monitor would either be stuck to its original stand it came with or id have to purchase an expensive arm to host it

[fluid ravine]

does running 2 monitors affect performance?

[sweet oak]

Anything over 32 inch for my is too big personally

[void hollow]

no

[fluid ravine]

👍

wondering

[stable kindle]

@void hollowim planning to mount all my monitors to the wall

[void hollow]

not much to my knowledge, but its widely debated

[void hollow]

ah thats convenient

[sweet oak]

Yeah if any, very unnoticeable hit

[fluid ravine]

i want a monitor arm but hell my fatah desk wont let it clamp

[void hollow]

i hate monitor arms tbh

thus i got a solid pole mount instead

and i prefer having more desk space too thus i stack mounted my monitors

[stable kindle]

why not?

[sweet oak]

Same

Stacked let me use my chairs backrest for once

[fluid ravine]

Tell me abt it

i play in the living room

[void hollow]

on the part whereby its annoying to adjust the arms sometimes, they dont get into the right position i want, accidentally touch something i gotta readjust the arms again. thus i hate monitor arms

[fluid ravine]

so i cant do wall mount either

[stable kindle]

what is that part for?

[fluid ravine]

what part

[stable kindle]

wiremanagement or just to conceal the cock

the part that is blocking the clamp

[fluid ravine]

oh no

no no

not enough space for the clamp so go on the desk

[void hollow]

yeah thats a yikesy

[stable kindle]

what the hell how deep is your desk? 12"?

[fluid ravine]

or theres no where to clamp

[sweet oak]

Yeah my current desk has that issue too

[fluid ravine]

theres barely enough space for my boom arm to clamp as well

[stable kindle]

you can drill a hole through the desk and clamp. almost all arms come with a drill through option

[sweet oak]

Could improvise with some wood blocks to give it enough space

Dunno how that would change the stability

[stable kindle]

this to

where do your monitors sit?

[void hollow]

there are always the few problems ive encountered:

the boom arm

headphone cable

cable management as a whole

[sweet oak]

Yep

Boom arm is my pain currently

[stable kindle]

i just spent an entire day modding my ikea desk to accept some wire management hardware

[fluid ravine]

this is where my boom arm is clamping onto

[void hollow]

the boom arm

okay so ive set it to the corner of my table, great its clamped somewhere really well BUT its so obstructive to my desk space when i wanna use my mic

[fluid ravine]

rip

[sweet oak]

Yep

[fluid ravine]

If you're wondering
i have another table in front of my main table as a place to put my monitor on (Built a deck for some height)
parents doesnt like the monitor to be close at all, so the monitor atm is like somewhat 3ft away from my face

[void hollow]

the headphone cable

okay so my headphone cable is too long, so i three way braided it into a shorter cable, great! now, does the cable just run down the middle of my tabletop and touch my skin over here and over there. and can i stop trying to break my headphones with my chair lovingly pulling my headphone cables at times (i run an audio interface so yea)

or for some of you will be, damn headphone cable coming from my pc case, having a cable dangling so obstructive bruh

[sweet oak]

Those covers are always a lifesaver for hiding cables

[fluid ravine]

fr

[stable kindle]

your monitor better be like 37" +

[fluid ravine]

;-;

[stable kindle]

3 flippin feet is way too far

[fluid ravine]

-10"

:P

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravinethey saying that cause of the old wives tale of needing glasses when youre too close to the tv?

[fluid ravine]

27" monitor
165 hz

[void hollow]

cable management

it feels like i can never cable manage something without feeling like im tugging on it too much, it feels like theres a solution for those ultra long cables, but maybe i might just be too lazy to be under my desk for a few hours sweating my ass off to manage it properly

[fluid ravine]

idfk 😭

[stable kindle]

yeah dont question them, if they anything like my parents, they would beat my ass for questioning their authority. 😦

[fluid ravine]

i wont

:)

[stable kindle]

you smart ! lol

[fluid ravine]

but..

[void hollow]

you asian

i asian

[fluid ravine]

since im home alone for alot of the time (every day)
i put my monitor on my main desk when i play comp

[stable kindle]

it did take my ass 1.5 days to redo all the wiring and adding a temporary triple monitor arm

[void hollow]

mounting a power strip under the table has got to be the best way to cable manage imo

[fluid ravine]

buff :)

[sweet oak]

Its very minimal

[stable kindle]

ye, i used to have mine velcroed to the underside but with the new wiremanagment hardware i got, it can just sit in there

[stable kindle]

lol thats so sad man, i feel ya

[fluid ravine]

my cable management SUCKS haha

but drc

[void hollow]

and oh yeah fock this

[stable kindle]

welll you are in the middle of a living room, hard to do clean anyways

[fluid ravine]

its not gonna kill me anyways

[fluid ravine]

exactly

[sweet oak]

The inevitable struggle

[void hollow]

i have zero clue how to fix that

[sweet oak]

This is mine lol

[stable kindle]

@void hollowhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FW3MKGH?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[fluid ravine]

i tried my best

[stable kindle]

looks great man

[void hollow]

i meant like, the fact that its gonna be hanging out either way

since the cables arent long enough to go under the desk

[stable kindle]

guess you need extensions then i fyou dont want them showing up at all

[void hollow]

i could face my pc the other way and it could fix the problem,

but its gonna defeat the purpose of me getting a meshify c

[fluid ravine]

hmm

gonna be a little bit tuff to turn it on

one hole for my keyboard cable
and another for my monitor

[sweet oak]

Setup coloring whiplash

[void hollow]

i have no clue where to place my webcam tbh

[fluid ravine]

got 0 theme in my setup

haha

[sweet oak]

[fluid ravine]

mostly white, gray, black

besides my keycaps

[sweet oak]

Id just eat it, hate webcams

[fluid ravine]

we dont talk abt em

[fluid ravine]

mm yummy

backup food

[sweet oak]

Gotta save so e for the winter

[void hollow]

i have a layer of shelf thats meant for keyboard stuff

but now its just full of trash

[fluid ravine]

damn lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05BaJVPVVaQ

[stable kindle]

webcam monitor and place it above your left speaker?

[sweet oak]

Lekker leftovers

[fluid ravine]

gib

[stable kindle]

give me a tldr

[void hollow]

planning to spring swap

[sweet oak]

What size you thinking of swapping them to?

[fluid ravine]

tldr?

[stable kindle]

too long didnt read

[fluid ravine]

oh

[void hollow]

sec coc

[fluid ravine]

im watching it rn

[stable kindle]

o ok lol

[sweet oak]

I usually skip to the end of those

[stable kindle]

k i skipped to the end, he didnt like the keycaps and the stock case

[sweet oak]

And get no answer

[polar girder]

Yeah who cares

Wooting stays on top

Prove me wrong

[fluid ravine]

cant

[sweet oak]

What if i stand on top of my wooting

Then im on top

[fluid ravine]

then i stand on top of you

[stable kindle]

yeah this is true

[fluid ravine]

then im on top

[stable kindle]

and your wooting is broken

[stable kindle]

yeah tahts just gay

[polar girder]

Then I put a Wooting on Tenz jr head

[fluid ravine]

what? 😂

[void hollow]

oh no i mean stem swap haha

[polar girder]

Wooting stays on top

[fluid ravine]

real

[sweet oak]

Tetris

[sweet oak]

Ah gotcha

[void hollow]

like swap to the escatic l60's blue stem

[polar girder]

Raptor housing, l60 stem, l45 spring

[void hollow]

then maybe swap housing when better he switches come out

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravinei remember you mentioned that some mods for the wooting wasnt worth it, can you give me the list?

[fluid ravine]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

me when i dont remember shi

FIlms

[void hollow]

i dont like using the burger mount tbh

[stable kindle]

what films?

[fluid ravine]

Any films

just films

no films

[stable kindle]

where do these films go?

[fluid ravine]

useless piece of crap

[void hollow]

yea i think quite a few people mentioned films are annoying to put on in the first place

[fluid ravine]

between the housings

[void hollow]

and they dont really do crap

[fluid ravine]

^^

[void hollow]

for me personally, i just struggle to put it on the screws and screw it into the case

[stable kindle]

gotcha, thanks man

is that it?

[void hollow]

id rather gasket mount it

[fluid ravine]

i think theres a few more but i dont remember

prob been a while

[stable kindle]

i need you to remember so i can start ordering

thocc prince

[fluid ravine]

Whatchu ordering

[stable kindle]

prince of thocc

i dont eeven know i need your help LOL

[fluid ravine]

😭

[stable kindle]

i got the case and the module ordered

[void hollow]

coiled cables, possibly overrated?

[stable kindle]

and the keycaps

[fluid ravine]

Ok try to make a list
and i will review it

[void hollow]

i cant get them to coil right lmao

[sweet oak]

Just gimme a solid straight black cable and im set personally

[stable kindle]

and got the coiled cable from wooting even though they were overpriced as hell, i liked the look

[void hollow]

great then

[fluid ravine]

switches? @stable kindle

[void hollow]

fr imo as long as you like it

[stable kindle]

straight, huh. sounds like you are over compensating

[sweet oak]

[stable kindle]

ordered the l60's at the same time as the module cause it was $20 and the nerds in here werent gushing over the raptors yet

il give you a list of what i ordered

[fluid ravine]

👍

[stable kindle]

and what mods im planning to do

[fluid ravine]

goooood

[stable kindle]

thank you thocc prince

[fluid ravine]

makes it easier for me us

np

[void hollow]

spending 58 dollars on a coiled cables seems like a stretch

[fluid ravine]

oh hell no

[sweet oak]

Thats 2000% overpriced for cables

[fluid ravine]

@harsh dove im wondering
is there any gasket performance in the salvation case even with gummy mount?

[sweet oak]

They better be braided with plutonium or smth to get that price

[void hollow]

anyways im spending sgd so its
(1.33 sgd = 1.33 cad = 1usd)

[harsh dove]

Haven’t tried it with gummy mount, I’ve thought about it though

[fluid ravine]

should try it when you can

curious

[void hollow]

do it xD

[harsh dove]

I’ll do it when I get home

[void hollow]

wait whr ur from again tenz

vn

[fluid ravine]

Originally from Vietnam
Born in Houston Texas

[void hollow]

nice genes

[sweet oak]

Yeehaw

[fluid ravine]

Yeehaw

[fluid ravine]

weird genes 💀

[void hollow]

its finebruh

[fluid ravine]

we dont talk abt me and my parents

lol

[neon harbor]

As I anticipate the arrival of my first Wooting keyboard (60HE), I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you might have regarding the mods that can be made to this fabulous keyboard. Don't be afraid to ping me!

[void hollow]

what

[neon harbor]

tldr, what mods should I do for my first wooting keyboard?

[void hollow]

oh

[fluid ravine]

#🪛│modding_faq

[void hollow]

i read it so wrong

[fluid ravine]

look into this first

if you have any further questions about a mod just ask us here

[neon harbor]

lovely, will do

[fluid ravine]

👍

[void hollow]

polyfill is amazing tbh

its cheap and great

i got it for 4 dollars inclusive of shipping

wow we've been here for almost 2 hours lol

[stable kindle]

i remember working for frys electronics( like best buy) in my younger years

going through their system i saw they were getting those 100% gold plated hdmi cables in for $2-5 and marked them up to $200+

[void hollow]

im losing braincells on how shadowplay records left only

[neon harbor]

when it comes to lubing the switches for the first time, is it better to lube the stem only or the whole switch?

[tawdry tree]

Stem, rails and railtracks so to say

and the spring separately

Spring requires different lube though

[void hollow]

gpl105 :D

bag lube for springs is way to go

[harsh dove]

You can do the base of the springs with 205g0 if you don’t have anything else

But I use SuperLube Oil for my springs

[stray tiger]

You could brush or dip the spring ends with the same lube but if you're going to lube the entire spring I'd suggest something thinner.

[high umbra]

I ordered a Wooting 60HE+ with the Lekker60 switches, do i still need Lube and if yes which lube do you recommend? the one from wooting or some other brand?
I never lubed anything keyboard related so I am open for suggestions and tips

[robust bramble]

Can someone recommend a white case for 30 dollars or something like that? I want to buy the 60he module and I want to use the 45g springs so that’s why I need an own case…

[low sandal]

Oh haha yup it's:

• Switches are L45 with Krytox 205g0
• Case is Tofu Redux with original foam but with only one layer so it fits in the case
• Clipped Stab fangs
• XDA keycaps (Macaroon Second) bought from Amazon

[harsh dove]

Feel like it’s the keycaps making it sound like that

[cyan adder]

oh tyy !! thats all? kinda feel like there is no chattering sound

[low sandal]

Yup that's all

[stable kindle]

that the cream of the crop oil for springs?

[harsh dove]

Don’t think so, most probably use GPL105

[stable kindle]

@harsh dove looks like there are a million different brands. they all the same?

[harsh dove]

I’d honestly just get the sueprlube oil lol

Super Lube 51004 Synthetic Oil with PTFE, High Viscosity, 4 oz Bottle,Translucent white(Packaging may vary) https://a.co/d/6A9BNCU

Tends to be cheaper for a lot more

Vs $7 for a way bigger bottle

[stable kindle]

yeah id like to see the chemical composition of these oils. can see a likely hood of shit being extremely similar products but one with high mark up

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[stable kindle]

k thanks again man

and merry christmas

[harsh dove]

Np

Merry Christmas 🎄

[torn summit]

Yo wait stock foam doesnt fit 60 redux ?

Damn didnt know

Thanks for letting me know tho

[loud zephyr]

It fits after you peel off the bottom layer of the Wooting case foam

[low sandal]

Yes, I peeled it

[pale aspen]

charcoal GOAT set

[void hollow]

dem

kam keycaps feel really good to type on

[terse temple]

if i remember correctly are there alternate springs i can buy for my switches opposed to just outright buying the entire set of switches?

[loud zephyr]

Wooting are planning to re-release more but not sure about third party springs, other than farming switches

[dapper hazel]

just be careful to not use this with topre boards, other than that the grease and oil are fine for MX style switches

[dapper hazel]

which weight would you look for?

[terse temple]

the same as the 45g switch

[dapper hazel]

oh i see

[void hollow]

hmm

the kat keycaps are so tall compared the the kams LMAO

[heady latch]

i loveee the cool spiral cords

[heady latch]

OH I SEE THAT

[void hollow]

maybe gonna buy another set and check it beforehand LOL

[heady latch]

usually i only like the esc being a diff height

[void hollow]

yeah, the spacebar feels so meh tbh

[void hollow]

the spiral isnt straight and i cant get it straight and it is the annoying me everytime i see it

[pale aspen]

new gateron

KS20u

[void hollow]

you remind me, there was once i lost a screw

[pale aspen]

dual track = dounle stage spring?

[void hollow]

i was wondering why i couldnt put the switch into the pcb

the screw was hiding in the l60 lmao

[pale aspen]

@harsh dove sound like new switch for you try lol

[glacial wind]

ah this must be the double rail one

[void hollow]

@fluid ravine when become switchman

[glacial wind]

at this stage I'm just watching the tests to see which I'd end up with on next wooting tkl/75

[void hollow]

yalls keep reminding me of the tkl/75

[glacial wind]

already happy with the low chatter on the raptors on my 60he, now just need to see what I'd put in the tkl/75

[void hollow]

im already 1.1g in i think

im gonna struggle to afford the tkl/75

[glacial wind]

dual rail i'd definitely have to hand lube, you'd probably feel the scratchiness more if there's any inconsistent factory lube there

[heady latch]

NO it looks fine leave it alone

cord go loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de loop de

[onyx pier]

Another one?!

[pale aspen]

released 4 days ago

[proper ice]

are you supposed to only do tape or foam mod, or can you do both

[fresh leaf]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone has experience working with the kbdfans fr4 plate? I got one recently and when screwing down the plate standoff near the spacebar the stabilizers do not come back up and keep the spacebar held down. I have to remove the screw entirely for the spacebar to rise after pressing, and even then it still feels scratchy to press the spacebar. Has anyone had any problems like this and were they able to fix it?

[torn summit]

you can do both

[round sparrow]

BadSeedTech used the exact same plate and he didnt seem to have any issues with it

[untold wigeon]

Yeah i have stab fittment issues on my FR4 plate too. My lshift,rshift n back don't come back up. My guess it grips them too tight and I did see some other people reporting the same issue. What I did is contact kbdsupport and I think I'm close to getting a replacement.

[loud heart]

I regret getting an iso because the keycap sets are more expensive, the enter key breaks the symmetry of having 1 key per row, and I can't replace the stock switch plate. I also realised that I don't need the extra keys when it's so easy to configure different layers, and it's 2 more switches to lube.

[sand oasis]

iso looks better tho

[untold wigeon]

thanks bro

[sand oasis]

but i also kinda regret getting it

i want pc plate sadge

[hasty fjord]

hello, I would like to know if putting custom keycaps slows down the typing speed given that there is more material than a simple keycaps

[bronze grove]

No difference.

[void hollow]

im on fr4 plate, i have stabs issues too but i already fixed it, just fixed the clips pretty much to put them in their reset position and they dont get stuck anymore

[solemn frigate]

I’ve got a question if we want to change the switches on my wooting can I only change it to those that wooting are selling for example the l45 switch or can I mod it with any magnetic switch?

[bronze grove]

Other switches may work.

But we obviously cannot provide support for those.

[solemn frigate]

Oh alright thank you

[void hollow]

any is a stretch for now, but some others will work, just make sure that they state it

[solemn frigate]

👍 thanks

[void hollow]

now we have the raptors which is a popular option within this channel, but honestly id just wait out and see what other he switches gets developed before nailing down on one

[solemn frigate]

Wait what are the raptors?

Ohhh switches I see

[solemn frigate]

Yeah I’ve found them you reckon that they are a good alternative to lekker switches?

[glacial wind]

They are, but there’s like 2 other options that came out recently too so I’d wait a week and see which of the 3 you prefer the most if you want to swap out your lekkers

The 2 new ones are gateron switches and you’ll see sound tests for them and compatibility tests too once more people start receiving theirs

[solemn frigate]

Oh alright I’ll keep an eye out than thank you

[void hollow]

id wait more than just a week for it tbh, id probably wait even half a year for competition to arise in the he switches market

if you're looking for all those minimally better you're just putting your wallet into the rabbit hole

[glacial wind]

I mean if you’re waiting half a year then you’re going into the ‘forever waiting’ zone honestly

Switches are always changing and improving

You’ll forever be waiting for that new switch coming around the corner if you wait that long

[void hollow]

ideally imo, half a year seems fairly okay as per compared to seemingly be "desperate" for the switches, i mean if its a hobby and you do have the money to continuously spend i dont see why not.

half a year feels like it would be enough time for competition lacking behind to show up with their version of the he switches.

dont get me wrong tho its just my opinion, nothing against those who spend on switches this early, its all by personal preference and choice:)

[polar girder]

Yeah I agree. Either buy them all or wait six months lol

HE market just heating up

I feel like by then we’ll have a better idea of what we want out of a good HE switch

[void hollow]

i don't got a job rn, purely living on allowance and savings so even if i wanted to buy them all there are some limitations

[normal schooner]

[void hollow]

yes purely clowning when you see my kb spendings

[normal schooner]

[glacial wind]

In 6 months it’ll only be another 6 months to raptor 2.0 and gateron 3.0 though

That’s just how the keyboard hobby works, especially with switches. Never ending cycle of changes

Then another 3 months after someone will invent long pole switches for he or something else

The keyboard mod rabbit hole never ends so you just have to make judgement calls on your hobby spending

[tawdry tree]

It ends when you reach satisfaction, your perfection. You can always chase true perfection but like you said, it always changes. It is a game impossible to win.

[robust bramble]

?

[agile grove]

I doubt you will find a high quality case that cheap

maybe on aliexpress

[robust bramble]

It doesnt need to be good it should work like the normal one on the wooting…

[wet hazel]

KBDFans Tiger Lite ABS White, check if it's compatible. Well it seems out of stock on Ali but it's more or less that price

By the way it has that housing, it'll need modifications

Or maybe resin cases are around 30$

[agile grove]

that seems to be for tkl

[wet hazel]

Yup it seems so

The gh60 compatible ones are more expensive mmm

[unreal sparrow]

@fluid ravine what was the gummy o-ring mount that you did? im trying to cop the same one

like the specific ring

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[halcyon obsidian]

Not sure which one his is but a lot of people use the graveshift medium 30a o-ring

[dark cypress]

hey has anyone found a good PBT low profile keycap similar to the wooting stock caps?

[stray tiger]

Stock caps are OEM profile. If you want lower than that look at cherry profile. If thats not low enough there are other options but you start to get big gaps between the switch and keycaps

[dark cypress]

Thanks for this. I purchased and tried some OEM low profile keycaps but there is such a quality difference between wooting's and these. I'll look into cherry

[unreal sparrow]

thank you

[untold wigeon]

Anybody here compared the Geon HE switches to the new Gateron Jades? I'm doing a new 60 HE build with the module and I want to try some new switches out.

[late oracle]

just put some boba u4ts in a board and i am in love

i know i'm like 2 years late to the party

but i just got back into keyboards this year

[harsh dove]

Good afternoon, what I miss

[cyan adder]

Same; im waiting on reviews of Jade and KS20 white to decide which one to buy. I need to replace those lekkers

[untold wigeon]

KS20 white is a waste of time

[orchid tendon]

Hey, just got my wooting 60he, and i wanted to get a Tofu 60 redux with the internal brass weight, but the brass weight is out of stock. Just wondering if i should wait until it is in back in stock, or get another case which is of similar quality and price.

[untold wigeon]

they sound the same as the lekkers

just lube whatever lekkers you have right now and call it done on the KS20s

[cyan adder]

currently running L60 hand lubed + switch tape mod 3 layers

[untold wigeon]

I'm running hand lubed L60s too, they sound really good most of the time but that chattery noise is annoying

It was the worst in the stock case however

[cyan adder]

stock case is good if ur looking for thock

plastic is perfect for thock ngl

[untold wigeon]

I never really had mine thock in the plastic case

I'd say they do more in the tofu

in the alumaze it was mostly metallic

[zealous delta]

is the wooting lube qualitative or its meh for its price ? with honesty please

lube and greace kit

[untold wigeon]

it's the same krytox 205g0 everyone is using as for the grease I'm not sure

[zealous delta]

so its quite like the best one on market

[untold wigeon]

there's not really a best, it depends on whatever switch you use

some lube linears with 3204

[zealous delta]

for the wooting analogical switches

which is the best ?

[untold wigeon]

Probably this one and I'd also pick up GPL 105 to bag lube switch springs

[zealous delta]

like the greace and the lube from the kit + the gpl le too?

[untold wigeon]

hand lubing springs one by one with 205 is really annoying

[zealous delta]

lube too*

[untold wigeon]

ye, 205g0+EM50L and GPL 105 from somewhere else or you can use 205 on the springs but it's really teadious

[zealous delta]

i mean idc if it takes a while to lube all, i just want the most efficient result

[untold wigeon]

the most efficient one is probably 205g0 everywhere besides the springs and 105 for the springs on the switches

as for the stabs you use 205g0 on the housing and the grease on the wire

[zealous delta]

wym springs ?

like thing for spacear ?

[untold wigeon]

no the springs in the switches

[zealous delta]

oh okay

so two different lube

205 for every part

105 for springs

[untold wigeon]

yeah

[zealous delta]

okay

is 10g of 205 and 4.2 of greace enough to lube and greace two keyboard

or enough to one only

[fluid ravine]

10g is alot

hmm holdup

[untold wigeon]

10g is more than enough for 70 switches

[fluid ravine]

3ml or 3g can cover up 200-300 switches

[untold wigeon]

tho I did go quite heavy on the springs with 205 on mine

[fluid ravine]

5ml or 5g can cover up 400-500 switches

[zealous delta]

alright

so this kit + lube is worthy for someone that doesnt have anything to lube

[untold wigeon]

yes

it's a good start

[fluid ravine]

got everything you need

[zealous delta]

what can make an even better start?

[polar girder]

Bucket of lube

I used that kit to lube my last set and I still have plenty of lube

[untold wigeon]

someone to do it for you

because this shit is tedious asf

I'm not looking forward to ordering those new magnetic jades and handlubing them one by one again

@fluid ravine what config did you end on for your final wooting build?

[zealous delta]

how long does it takes for a wooting 60he

[fluid ravine]

havent find my final build yet

[untold wigeon]

rn, I'm in a tofu redux with the brass weight an the thin foam, 2 layers of tape, pc plate, lubed l60s

[fluid ravine]

i can give you my current

[untold wigeon]

sure

I'm looking to upgrade to geons/jades and maybe try out the carbon fiber kbdfans plate

as i already have the fr4 one

which I will try on the module

I tried it on this pcb but the plate mount stabs were too tight in it and wouldn't work

[fluid ravine]

GH60 (Tofu V1 clone)
PC plate
Lube Switches (Krytox 205g0)
TX AP Stabs (Krytox on stem and housing, grease on wires)
Switch Tape Mod (3 layers of gentle paper tape)
Tempest mod (2 layer Masking Tape)
Gloirous GBPT Keycaps
Poron Switch Pads
Gummy Mount
No PCB foam
Polyfill

[untold wigeon]

I see

mine progressed more looks wise than anything

the sound is much improved

[fluid ravine]

im looking forward to new keycaps
Switches is a maybe

[untold wigeon]

this is its third iteration

[fluid ravine]

not a big fan of how mines look lol

[untold wigeon]

the plastic case sounded kinda hollow and thucky with the original foam and stuff
the alumaze didn't sound hollow but metallic
the tofu sounds kinda deep af in some spots

I also changed out the stabs

[fluid ravine]

so whats the current mods

[untold wigeon]

I could not get mine to stop ticking after a few days

[untold wigeon]

lubed switches, 2 layers paper tape mod, foam in the bottom, pcb foam and new keycaps ig

I have the kbdfans FR4 plate that's too tight for plate mount stabs, but hopefully works on the pcb mount ones

[fluid ravine]

paper tape mod?

[untold wigeon]

tape mod but with paper tape

[fluid ravine]

ah

ic

what case foam

[untold wigeon]

1 layer didn't do shit
2 did quite a bit
3 nothing

[untold wigeon]

the thin foam liner from the redux

and ofc the brass weight

it probably doesn't do shit

[fluid ravine]

it only increases weight

[untold wigeon]

but I had it so I used it

not by much

[fluid ravine]

lol

[untold wigeon]

it's really thin

the tofu already weighs a lot

the alumaze was 950g fully built

this is 1475g

[fluid ravine]

oh damn

[untold wigeon]

its even more than my tofu65

[fluid ravine]

yeah alumaze is like thinner

[untold wigeon]

also no brass weight

I'm willing to bet it will get even heavier with the FR4/CR plates

right now i'm using the pc plate

the steel is way too loud in an aluminum case

also looking at Jades vs Geons

or might just buy both

[fluid ravine]

huh
i havent tried stock plate in my alu case

now i htink abt it

[untold wigeon]

for me it was too loud and badseedtech also found the same stuff

[fluid ravine]

wait for @harsh dove review

[untold wigeon]

he compared all 4 of them

[fluid ravine]

jades are coming in this week

[untold wigeon]

sound wise not a huge difference but the steel plate was the loudest

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[untold wigeon]

i'm more interested in the chatter noise going away

from what I heard the geons mostly remove it

i hope the jades fully remove it

I got L45s too with the module for like 17 bucks

[fluid ravine]

cause of housing and stem tightness

[untold wigeon]

the Jades before shipping and customs are 55

and the geons are 35

[fluid ravine]

possibly housing material as well

[untold wigeon]

the housing materials between the jades and KS20/Lekkers aren't that much different but the switch is sealed off

[fluid ravine]

but

the dimensions in size for tightness can be different

[untold wigeon]

for sure

I saw people stem swapping geons with L60 stems

made it really tight

[fluid ravine]

if the stem and housing or one of them increase by a few mm
it can change the sound of the switch

[untold wigeon]

yeah

my L60s are from the EU-Nevel batch and the tolerances on them are terrible

hoping the L45s are better

[fluid ravine]

geon made the raptors housing more thicker while having the stem more smaller than the lekkers

[untold wigeon]

I hope Badseed tech compares the L60/L45 and Geon/Jades against each other

[untold wigeon]

i see

[fluid ravine]

thats why the stem in the raptor housing is so tight

[untold wigeon]

you havem't considered switch swapping?

[fluid ravine]

while having the raptor stem in lekkers so much looser

causing it to chatter more

[untold wigeon]

yeah if i buy geons and stem swap them, the lekkers with the geon stem will sound extremely bad

[fluid ravine]

1. im too broke
2. i modded the switches myself so theres no chatter

[untold wigeon]

really no chatter at all with that tape mod?

[fluid ravine]

yeah
thats the point of the switch tape mod

[untold wigeon]

i thought it just reduces it

not fully remove it

the Geons from what i've seen don't even fully get rid of it

[fluid ravine]

in my guide
i said depending on how many layers you do
you can reducce or fully remove the chatter noise

[untold wigeon]

I didn't read up on it as I just passed it because of the time

i hate opening up switches

[fluid ravine]

lol

[harsh dove]

I’ve tested this and have a video of it in two different cases

[untold wigeon]

i see

[fluid ravine]

"The maximum layer you can do is three, as two is recommended. Be aware that three layers will fully eliminate the chatter noise and will reduce stem wobble by a lot"

[untold wigeon]

Would you say the Geons are higher pitched than the lekkers?

[harsh dove]

I called them Black Peppers

[untold wigeon]

i'd probably do it with the L45 Stem

[harsh dove]

No they are deeper because of nylon housing

[untold wigeon]

red and green sucks

[fluid ravine]

they're the same

[untold wigeon]

I know

[fluid ravine]

just different color

[untold wigeon]

yeah thats why

[harsh dove]

I use stock raptors hand lubed currently

I don’t like the stem swap

Too tight

[untold wigeon]

I also plan on selling my old build(alumaze+og60he pcb+pc plate+cherry oem stabs+lubed l60s)

as I don't have a need for 2 60hes

[fluid ravine]

how much you selling it for

[untold wigeon]

the thing I dislike about the Jades is that i can only get them from china

and before import taxes the jades cost 70% more than the geons

[harsh dove]

Yeah I think I paid like $56 for mine

[untold wigeon]

my L45s with the module were like 15 bucks

thats a huge difference

knowing me, i'll probably buy both the geons and jades

[harsh dove]

Yeah you can get lekkers for cheap if you get the deals on them

[untold wigeon]

as for hand lubing

[harsh dove]

That’s what I did

[untold wigeon]

did you think it was worth it

on the geons

[harsh dove]

Eveyrthing is worth it

Knowledge is power

[untold wigeon]

how did u lube them?

[fluid ravine]

and im starting to lack behind the knowledge :D

[untold wigeon]

(please dont tell me u hand lubed the springs 1 by 1)

[fluid ravine]

i do that lol

[untold wigeon]

i did that too

i hated it

[fluid ravine]

i didnt mind

[harsh dove]

I lubed bottom housing , stem rails , top housing with 205g0 and SuperLube oil for springs

[untold wigeon]

superlube oil probably meaning gpl105

[harsh dove]

I hand lube all my stuff

[harsh dove]

No

I mean superlube oil

[untold wigeon]

oh

[fluid ravine]

its a thing

lol

[untold wigeon]

i see

[harsh dove]

Gpl105 is fine too

[untold wigeon]

did it actually make a huge difference tho

[harsh dove]

What most seem to use

[untold wigeon]

like fr

[harsh dove]

In sound?

[untold wigeon]

yea

for the geons

[harsh dove]

Vs Lekker or