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dense token
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Specs Linear, hall effect Pre-Travel: Analog Total Travel:  4.0mm Operating Force: 42g Bottom-out Force: 52g Spring: 16.0mm, NAS wire Single-Stage spring Stem: POM Top Housing: PA12 NYLON Bottom Housing: PA66 NYLON Factory Lubed Mounting pins: 2pins Friendly reminder: Confirmed compatible keyboards: Wooting 60HE,KAKKA6

halcyon obsidian
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I have some custom keebs just not a wooting

wind karma
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you like the marbley sound profile ?

halcyon obsidian
stray otter
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I'm dubous on what shipping is going to cost to NA tho.

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I feel like KBD was high the last time I checked otherwise I'd buy a set.

dense token
wind karma
halcyon obsidian
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just search raptor and youll find a bunch of sound test

wind karma
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less stem wobble too

dense token
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bro what this is the best sounding wooting ive heard

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ill probably 3d print some films too

wind karma
dense token
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yea

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im so copying this stuff

wind karma
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hehe

dense token
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are there any parts in analog switches that i can swithc out for regular switches

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i might change the top housing if i can

wind karma
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uhh i dont think you can

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theres a massive spring

dense token
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damn

wind karma
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but im not

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100%

dense token
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yea i saw that when i was taking my board apart

wind karma
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need someone elses input

dense token
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the only part i think can be switched out is top housing but im not even sure a bout that

wind karma
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im gonna check

dense token
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thanks

halcyon obsidian
stray otter
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That it's not in fact a contest centered around jacking it?

wanton edge
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Hey sorry if this is a stupid question, but does anyone know how tight the tolerance the Alumaze case is with sooting pcb? Like if I got the case and accent cerekoted would the pcb still fit worst case scenario the coat comes out a bit thick?

halcyon obsidian
stray otter
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I don't want to go into more detail.

Nor really should I have to if you think about it.

halcyon obsidian
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yeah I mean just adding a statement that its purely a community contest not something wooting is hosting

dense token
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how do you tape mod a switch

halcyon obsidian
halcyon obsidian
dense token
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i love you

wind karma
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also nahrba i actually think theres no info out there about it i’m sorry i couldnt be much help

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but there are people here that you can ask, i’m sure they’ll know

dense token
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ill just try it myself lol

wind karma
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if you wanted to sure i guess

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hehr

harsh dove
halcyon obsidian
limpid crown
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Whats dampens the sound more the Silicone Plate Pad or the Foam Plate Pad for the PC Plate ?

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On aluminium Case

sweet cedar
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for those of yall with o ring with clip in stabs, would u say its worth it over standard tray mount with screw in stabs

fluid ravine
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yeah 😂

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i mean its still going to be the same as if we did gummy mount with plate mount stabs

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stabs are stabs
you tune them till they good or perfection

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gummy mount and tray mount is just preference

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sweet cedar
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whats the difference between the two

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sound and feel wise

torn summit
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God damnit it feels impossible to find purple azerty keycaps 😞😞😞

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I found a ton of keycaps but all of them are uk/us

quiet bay
torn summit
limpid crown
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Stupid question but how do i use the wooting detachanle cable?
Is very short

untold wigeon
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what

finite gate
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also

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if you want to rebuilt

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screw in and clip ins require complete disassembly

finite gate
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that should be long enough

sweet cedar
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like the sensors

finite gate
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is it

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you can o ring wooting no?

limpid crown
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Ah i should have used the extension

limpid crown
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And is not working. Some lights appears but can't type with it. I can type with the standar C Cable

finite gate
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if its not it may not be able to supply 100w

limpid crown
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Wooting 60 he

finite gate
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no the cable

limpid crown
finite gate
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Hm

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unplug and replug the connector

fluid ravine
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Decided to take apart my PC cus of bordem now im doing this

limpid crown
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The usb detachanle cable is longer. I mean the connector

fluid ravine
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life is depressing :D

limpid crown
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Would that make a difference in the connection ? Like perhaps since im using an aluminium case is not connecting itself properly

fluid ravine
limpid crown
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I mean perhaps it's not entering properly on the USB

fluid ravine
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may i see your usb case hole

limpid crown
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Because of the connector that goes to the port being a little bit longer than the standard

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Sure

fluid ravine
vagrant frigate
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Anybody have a link to a tutorial on tape modding switches?

limpid crown
fluid ravine
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yeah the case shouldnt have to do with anything between the connection

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just the cable and the usb port itself

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what issue do you have again? i was late to the discussion

limpid crown
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Some lights turn on. I even can swap profiles but wootility is not recognizing it and i cannot write

fluid ravine
limpid crown
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That only happens with the coiled cable from the wooting store

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With the stock one it works perfect

fluid ravine
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ah

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have you tried factory reset with the wooting

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while having the cable plugged in

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not a tech nerd so i wouldnt really know a solution

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someone in the server would have a solution

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but idk who

limpid crown
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Is working now without factory reset

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Thanks 🙂

fluid ravine
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no problem

limpid crown
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Howevera

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Now i moved the keyboard

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And it disconnected itself lol

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dunno why it happens

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Lol

fluid ravine
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Loose port

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I'm guessing

vagrant frigate
limpid crown
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It doesnt happen with the stock cable

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The disconnection

stray tiger
fluid ravine
fluid ravine
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the tape must be thin enough for the housing to fit back together and for the stem to return to its inital position

sweet cedar
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i wish wooting had different 60% layouts

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like wkl

limpid crown
# fluid ravine Loose port

So i recently tried with a Wooting keyboard AVR that i have here. I believe that the case port size of my aluminium case is making it not to fit the usb properly

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Because in the stock wooting keyboard it's working fine.

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So the cable is not the problem... It's the case (which is not alumaze is gh60 low profile case)

fluid ravine
limpid crown
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Meh, guess i will stick with the stock cable

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Thanks @fluid ravine !

keen plaza
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Would the wooting two HE internals fit into a ducky shine 7 case?

high umbra
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I have no idea about anything keyboard modding related and just wanted some advice
My current Order includes the following:
HE60+ Module with Lekker60 Switches
Some Grey/Black Keycaps (impossible to really clean sets with german layout...)
Tofu 60 Redux Case

I was thinking about getting the brass plate but didnt decide to get one yet and might upgrade it later on

So for upgrades i should get right now:
After market cable? (I know it needs to be a straight cable, so the cool fancy ones wouldnt support the 8k)
Foam? Tape mod? Anything similar?
Brass plate worth it?
Does the Wooting Wristrest fit on a Tofu Board?
Do i have to lube the switches or are they prelubed? How important is lubing? (i know it takes some time but im willing to spend that time)
anything else?

sweet cedar
sweet cedar
wicked urchin
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If i just buy the switches and made a custom keyboard can i still use the wooting software to make its the fastest response time an d other features.

untold wigeon
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But if you just buy the switches separately the software won’t work

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Have to buy the pcb

quiet bay
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Wooting’s pcb is definitely needed

loud zephyr
keen plaza
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unfortunate, will have to wait for new one since it sounded like they plan on making one that is

loud zephyr
keen plaza
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no i mean i saw them answer a question asking if it could be modded, and they said something like it can't be modded but will be different for future iterations

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so gotta wait for those future iterations

loud zephyr
keen plaza
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i hate non full sized, i need those keys bruh

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so unfortunately cannot use any wooting except the two he but i love the ducky shine 7 i have so not switching unless i can keep it looking the same

loud zephyr
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That's fair enough but I think I'd eventually get bored with the same design

keen plaza
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i don't need it to be exciting, just nice

loud zephyr
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Ducky are pretty good imo, just wish this was compatible with the 60HE

keen plaza
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i wouldn't see myself ever switching keyboard at all but analog switches are clearly the future, so as soon as i can get them and the software in this keyboard i will

loud zephyr
loud zephyr
static tendon
static tendon
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What spring weight do most use here? The L60's or L45's?

loud zephyr
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I got L50's before they were archived to legendary status

static tendon
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I couldn't decide so I just got both 🙂

loud zephyr
polar girder
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I prefer l45’s

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Out of the l60 vs l45 I have

loud zephyr
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Nice. I'd like to see multi-stage springs for that snappy rebound, whether that's possible or worht it; probably not

static tendon
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I feel like I'd personally lean towards the lighter springs but again I haven't tested them so I cannot say for sure

loud zephyr
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For typing I def prefer heavy weighted springs but way too fatiguing for gaming imo. L60's were the absolute limit for mine

static tendon
loud zephyr
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Looks too busy with sub legends, I used to like them but I think Analog Dreams is one of the few I'd consider with Haragana

static tendon
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Got it. It sounds like it’s just extra Japanese lettering. I think it adds to the colors though. Might consider it 🤔

crimson sky
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No

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The sublegend color is the same

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If it isn't with gmk avoid it

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Since the sublegends would be pad printed

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Some other manus do proper triple shot tho

onyx pier
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i have ordered the gateron new switches time to wait for it to come and test it

finite gate
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everfree curry or summertime

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Because all recent summertime batches have issues and you should return them

onyx pier
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do you have pic

finite gate
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Wdym pic

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I dont own a set, because they have issues

glacial wind
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since it seems they're accusing neo of stealing from their patent and pushing out a prototype on social media

onyx pier
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this ones?

glacial wind
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yeah

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the chinese gateron press release basically accuses 'someone' of ripping off their switch during the patent phase and advertising it on social media recently

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the only one else who has been promoting closed bottom magnetic switches were the neo switches, so most assuming it means them

crimson sky
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geon

onyx pier
glacial wind
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is raptor actually closed bottom? I can't remember lol

crimson sky
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oh

glacial wind
onyx pier
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if the neo switches sound like the gateron then i will have to refund

crimson sky
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but closed bottom switches are nothing new

onyx pier
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dont like how the neo sounds like

crimson sky
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lekker prots were closed bottom

glacial wind
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i think their patent is specifically magnetic closed bottom

crimson sky
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kailh ones are closed bottom

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raesha ones are as well

glacial wind
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pretty broad like typical patent stuff lol, a magnetic switch with a back cover

crimson sky
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I mean they talk about the KS-20T

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I'd be surprised if that is closed bottom?

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maybe it has a stem well ig

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wouldn't be the first time gateron has to deal with something like this tho

glacial wind
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there haven't been any sound tests of ks-20t yet have there

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until now I feel everyone only knew them as 'those magnetic jade gaterons' from the photos

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ah I see they did close the bottom

crimson sky
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ah

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well

onyx pier
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I have refunded

crimson sky
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ok

onyx pier
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Maybe i will just wait for someone else to sound test it

crimson sky
glacial wind
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i'm sure there's ways to get around the patent by adding something or just changing the design at the bottom

crimson sky
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the kailh ones are quite old now

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raesha just has a regular stem well

onyx pier
crimson sky
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no

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they would sound different

glacial wind
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well if they closed the bottom it wouldn't sound the same

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neo's entire thing was how closing the bottom made it that big clack sound, but now their whole post is gone (i assume due to gateron coming after them)

onyx pier
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yea i went to read the comments of the post you send seems like it

marble shuttle
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psd60 from aliexpress

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other compatable cases are more expensive

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gain money get the tofu

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seems true

static tendon
untold wigeon
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anyone in here use non lekker switches on there wooting 60he?

untold wigeon
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LMAO NO WAY

loud zephyr
untold wigeon
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but do the gateron k and raptors work with it?

loud zephyr
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they do but Lekker's are tuned to perfection

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I have no evidence to back this up, just a gut feeling

untold wigeon
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Alright so i should stick with lekkers

loud zephyr
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Up to you 🙂

untold wigeon
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thank you!

glacial wind
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raptors are better, but no reason you need to buy them right away if you ordered a full wooting already

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use the lekkers, see how you like them then swap if you want

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there's also the new gateron ks-20t or whatever that will release soon so there's another option coming up as well. no rush to swap over switches right away

untold wigeon
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Like no issues in using non lekker switches

glacial wind
untold wigeon
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what about the magnetic part? does it effect that in any way?

glacial wind
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yes and no, it makes your starting point more sensitive is the main thing

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for example i use 0.1 wasd on lekker but 0.3 wasd on raptors

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because 0.1 on raptors was more sensitive to the touch

untold wigeon
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so the sensitivity is different

glacial wind
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yeah the starting point sensitivity is what you'll notice

untold wigeon
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Interesting

glacial wind
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that's not a good or bad thing though, just different

untold wigeon
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yes, and you can easily adjust them

austere creek
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loud zephyr
loud zephyr
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That's the new layout for the new Woowiiing

torn summit
torn summit
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perfect then, i might try to get them one day if i find nothing better

nocturne hamlet
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Planning to use burger mount but washers also included with the upcoming he60+.
Should I also use the washers(both side) or it won't make much of a difference?

high umbra
pale aspen
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holy

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i guess Rakka60 is real deal

stray otter
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What the fuck am I looking at

bronze grove
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A Holy60 case (thin cogweb design, yes that's gaps in the case) combined with a Rakka60 PCB.

marble shuttle
pale aspen
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Holy60 case: $119
Kakka60 keyboard kit (Holy60 case): $279

Tofu60 Redux case: $59
Kakka60 keyboard kit (Tofu60 Redux case): $199

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rakka has 64% layout but no mention in kbdfans page

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also

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still 6.25u

forest dust
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is the rakka pcb availableon its own ?

pale aspen
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it was

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but gb close

forest dust
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F

pale aspen
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like in October

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but from what i see

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they seem to collab with KBDfan in this

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nevertheless you can still buy that Cobweb case and put wooting in it

forest dust
pale aspen
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i would say difference wont be much

forest dust
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yea but nonetheless

pale aspen
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keep competition up pepeyes

glacial wind
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It’s a gimmick which provides very little actual real world value

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That said I’ve heard the rakka pcb is pretty decent - but of course that has nothing to do with it being 8k or not

marble shuttle
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Ooff next year is will hard for keeping money

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God help

forest dust
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burt 8kHz is a nice to have, like HE

austere creek
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its only nice to have if you can also scan all keys at 8khz

forest dust
forest dust
glacial wind
austere creek
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and no polling rate says nothing about the actual key scanning rate

forest dust
forest dust
forest dust
glacial wind
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8k with great scanning has been made well before on the genesis 8k korean boards for example, but even that hasn't shown to be some real advantage

forest dust
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to my knowledge 8kHz scan requires a ton of processing

austere creek
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it doesnt mention 8khz scanning for me

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just polling

forest dust
austere creek
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ye but you replied to me asking how you know by saying its on the page... when its not

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anyway we will consider higher polling rates when we can match the processing etc to it

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without blowing unnecessary money on an mcu just for this

forest dust
austere creek
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it can be and thats where ill leave it

austere creek
glacial wind
glacial wind
# pale aspen do you have link?

he has a whole discord you can find if you search genesis 8k, he builds pcbs but it's very niche stuff that is made to order in tiny batches and such - not anything you'd find made for large sale

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here's one of the youtubers that covered it in korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOImiFmjeVg

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halcyon obsidian
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where can I get this same switch pad

glacial wind
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there's a whole section explaining 8k scanning vs polling and such, but again it's all super niche order stuff with genesis and only in korean lol

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part of the video even goes over comparing corsairs 8k without 8k scanning vs genesis 8k with 8k scanning

wind karma
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hey people any recommendations for high quality pbt keycap sets?

glacial wind
wind karma
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they would be perfect if it weren't for the icon keycaps....

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like the

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instead of it just saying caps lock

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i guess

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id rather have it like this

glacial wind
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don't they have both types?

wind karma
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i don't think they do for all sets

glacial wind
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i guess it's only certain sets

crimson sky
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depends on the set

devout torrent
crimson sky
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I personally prefer icon mods

devout torrent
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they come with other options

crimson sky
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ye

glacial wind
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yeah personally i think icon mods are cleaner

crimson sky
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they have the down arrow

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as an option to te purse

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personally prefer the down arrow

devout torrent
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ye down arrow looks better imo

wind karma
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down arrow?

devout torrent
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the 3rd key in 2nd image

wind karma
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ohh

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what's that key supposed to be for?

devout torrent
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capslock

wind karma
wind karma
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i'm fine with an arrow

devout torrent
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ye just check the set you are interested in

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most should come with that

wind karma
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yup

devout torrent
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if not all of them

wind karma
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thanks for the help

devout torrent
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np

gaunt linden
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Does someone have a vid using the new raptors switches ?

gaunt linden
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Thank you

static tendon
median spade
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@harsh dove saw your many videos and comments. You think the L60 stems worht swapping into the raptors or just keeping raptors as is?

harsh dove
surreal wren
median spade
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I don't notice stem wobble when I game that much tbh so might not bother with the L60 stem as you said sound difference seems to be minor

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got my frog mini, but waiting on the plate now so only using my tofu case

harsh dove
median spade
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hmmmm

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tough decision

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I do lean towards making my boards as "clacky" as possible, so might try the L60 stem

surreal lagoon
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is the o ring mod for the wooting recommended?

median spade
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a lot of people tend to do it

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so yeah

surreal lagoon
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is this the right dimension? OD 185 mm x ID 178 mm x Width 3.5 mm

agile grove
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im probably gonna stick to lekkers tbh, I dont really like clacky and raptors are clacky (so are all other HE switches rn)

sand oasis
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yeh thats kind of my predicament

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as HE are becoming more popular i assume that there will be more switches released and i dont want to jump the gun and buy some now

agile grove
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so far no one really knows how to get past that HE awkwardness tho

sand oasis
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yeh

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i might do it anyway

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i can afford the switches rn and its not too expensive for me if i get them off kbd fans

agile grove
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HE switches just kinda sound weird, no one has figured out how (or maybe just no one has tried) to make thocky HE switches

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but once the day comes I might just have to pick those up

sand oasis
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the raptors definately sound the best out of the switches out atm

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so it is tempting

agile grove
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I personally im going to wait

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I like thock so much more

pale aspen
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it forces clack

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remove plate foam/case foam

agile grove
pale aspen
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but it is pingy

agile grove
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true

harsh dove
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Carbon fiber doesn’t have ping tho

loud zephyr
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Shit is ugly IMO

agile grove
pale aspen
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kbdfans one also included screw

agile grove
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imagine the dust

pale aspen
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it is cool design

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just dont leave cup of coffe near it lol

loud zephyr
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The irony is the best design elements of a keyboard in underneath, at least that one is hidden

median spade
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never been a fan of carbon fiber in all the bulids that i've done

pale aspen
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as long as you can cut it
it is ok

median spade
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yeah i have a pom plate on order right now for frog mini for wooting

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but think imma cancel that and go with alu

pale aspen
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carbon fibre with top mount = chef kiss

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any platr is good

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except FR4

loud zephyr
median spade
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yeah fr4 is 💩

agile grove
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what are the thockiest mods for the 60he?

median spade
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every time ive tried it im like "yep remembered why I never build with it"

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stuff board with foam, use tape mod

harsh dove
agile grove
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unless you mean specifically because of the foam

median spade
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well tbh a lot of stuff doesn't work on HE if we're being honest

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due to them not being a contact switch

agile grove
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im prolly not gonna do o-ring friction mount since im getting the module and it has screw in stabs (which doesnt allow for it and they sound better so its kinda not needed)

harsh dove
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You can use clip-ins

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And do friction mount

median spade
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if you want to use oring mount use clip ins

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yeah

agile grove
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I know

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I still dont really feel like doing it lmao

harsh dove
median spade
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if you want thock then or ing is the way

agile grove
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true

median spade
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which is weird as it usually makes stuff more clacky but for some reason makes it thock on this

agile grove
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I might end up doing it eventually

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I've already spent $300 on this board dont feel like spending more

median spade
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welcome to the hobby

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I told myself I wasn't going to do anything outside tofu case for mine and then i heard nix sound test

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and was like well i already have nice boards for my work desk gotta make wooting as close as possible

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now i have tx ap stabs, geon he raptor switches, and frog mini for it Facepalm

pale aspen
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HE keeb for work desk

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you gonna RT the typing?

median spade
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rt?

pale aspen
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rapid trigger

median spade
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ohhhh no lmao

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i use stock actuation for typing as the 0.2 setting ihave not good for typing imo

untold wigeon
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🤨

pale aspen
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need tactile HE

median spade
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too many typing errors from 0.2 actuation and light springs

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is why eso

loud zephyr
median spade
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tactile HE would be interesting

agile grove
#

if I were to do gummy o-ring on the module what clip ins should I get?

median spade
#

if you feel like balling out then the tx ap stabs

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doesn't get any better

agile grove
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they're out of stock rn

median spade
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next would just be cherry clip ins

velvet egret
median spade
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For clip in yes

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Nothing better

harsh dove
#

Vintage OG Cherry Clip-Ins are best lol

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But TX is good too

median spade
#

I use those one of my boards and still think tx better tbh

velvet egret
#

And for screw ins?

median spade
#

Well three of my boards have vintage cherry clip in

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Tx or staebies for screw in

agile grove
#

im fine with waiting tbh, I'll probably get the board, build it, and play with it a little while and get the stabs when they're back in stock. my birthday is in march so I might be able to get a graveshift green o-ring and tx ap stabs then.

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would be an odd birthday request tho lmao

loud zephyr
agile grove
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"can I get an o-ring for my birthday?"

median spade
#

Tx just have best tolerances and tend to not tick imo

harsh dove
#

TX AP just has the tightest tolerance from my experience and requires least amount of maintenance

median spade
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^

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They sold out for a reason

velvet egret
#

Alrighty thank you, still looking for a set of stabs for my module

void hollow
#

pcb with or without foam 🤔

loud zephyr
harsh dove
#

Prospa is right tho that if you tune your stabs, they’re all pretty close together brand wise

agile grove
#

the graveshift green o-ring should fit right? the modding faq says 30a-50a and the green is 45a.

median spade
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Yeah tune wires, lube housing, wire, etc gg

harsh dove
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I’m using 40a

median spade
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Softer oring generally more “thocky”

velvet egret
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^ oh didnt know that

harsh dove
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Yeah I bought 3 diff hardness’s

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30-40-55

median spade
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Yeah I have 30-90 one of my oring boards and 70a is my preferred since it’s clackier

velvet egret
#

I always people see either liking Durock stabs or AP Tx stabs but between the two you still suggest AP Tx?

median spade
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Yes

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Durock is good but they are the loosest of all them imo

harsh dove
#

Durock are same as the stock stabs imo in terms of tolerance etc

velvet egret
#

Alrighty loud and clear 🙂 thanks

median spade
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Feel like you need to inject lube on durock every so often

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My tx and cherry ones almost never

agile grove
harsh dove
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Feel like you also need less grease in general for the tx stabs

median spade
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Mmhmm

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Tolerances so good I do very light coating and live life

agile grove
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I know its up to personal preference but would black or white stabs go better with green?

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I feel like black would look better with green

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but the lekkers are mostly white

fluid ravine
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It's just that good 😂

wind karma
fluid ravine
wind karma
fluid ravine
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yeah

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im not giving a whole explaination cus im tired rn but yeah

wind karma
#

what about a small explanation

void hollow
#

oh bruh i searched stab to read about stabs till i realise i actually didnt have to scroll at all

void hollow
fluid ravine
void hollow
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based in singapore (sea)

wind karma
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anyone tried staebies?

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i heard they didn't feel good and were 'scratchy' feeling

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or is this because you cant use any thick lube with it

fluid ravine
void hollow
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ahh divinkeys are now oos

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might try a local option: pantheonkeys

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but damn they dont state which rev are the stabs

barren falcon
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Does anybody know if the stab wires are 1.2 or 1.6mm?

fluid ravine
harsh dove
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That’s not Stab wires

fluid ravine
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thickness

harsh dove
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That’s PCB thickness

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And for wooting its 1.6

fluid ravine
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stab wire are 2u and 6.5u

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is it 6.5 i forgor

harsh dove
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Yes

fluid ravine
#

ya

barren falcon
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Oh interesting I thought that that number had to do with the wire

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good thing I got 1.6 then lol

halcyon obsidian
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wait

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its not 6.25?

harsh dove
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Sorry 6.25 yeah

halcyon obsidian
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ok good I was tweaking

barren falcon
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I got some MELETRIX WS V3.1 Stabs hopefully they are decent

halcyon obsidian
#

nice!

barren falcon
#

red redux case, geon switches, and a CF plate

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We'll see how it goes when these modules start shipping I've got everything else already :S

harsh dove
halcyon obsidian
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yeah corsair uses a weird bottom row

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I had like a k75 long long ago

barren falcon
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I had a K70 as my first mechanical keeb in 2013 lol I still have it in a closet somewhere

halcyon obsidian
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I gave mine to buddy I think

void hollow
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me tryna find out the difference in packaging in tx ap rev 3 vs rev 4

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💀

halcyon obsidian
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"Revision 3 brought the new white colour as well as a 1.2mm variant to support the more uncommon PCB thickness, and Revision 4 has had multiple adjustments made to the stem housing as well as inclusion of the Long Pole (LP) variant best suited for switches with a long pole stem due to the earlier bottom-out than a standard length stem."

harsh dove
void hollow
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oh i was using the k95 plat gunmetal

harsh dove
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Same

void hollow
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i sold it for like 80 sgd

harsh dove
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I had a Steelseries apex pro TKL before I got into customs

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And 60%

halcyon obsidian
#

me and CAM literally following the same path

harsh dove
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Hahah

sweet cedar
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rn i have some shitty amazon 60%

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excited for my module to arrive

halcyon obsidian
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mine went corsair k70 rgb rapidfire -> apex pro tkl -> gmmk pro -> monsgeek m1 -> and I'm waiting on my wooting now

harsh dove
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I was actually messing with my old keebs a few days ago and the feeling and sounds were like nails on a chalk board

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“I actually used this?!?”

sweet cedar
harsh dove
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Lmao

sweet cedar
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it sucks cause i have everything else but the module

harsh dove
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Ah yeah

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At least you have everything else haha

sweet cedar
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yea i wont have to wait on any thing else

halcyon obsidian
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I'm having to use a 5 dollar dell keyboard for work cause "work equipment" and I really makes my appreicate my monsgeek

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is there any full pcb poron switch pads that fit the entire board?

sweet cedar
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so im giving him mine rn once i finish my wooting

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hopefully its a big difference for him

weary tree
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i cant go back to membrane

sweet cedar
#

ik for me it was

weary tree
#

just so bad

void hollow
#

i was on like laptop -> k95 rgb for like 5 years (290sgd)-> custom wooting a month ago?

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i really enjoyed the low travel distance for keyboard i almost got a logitech g something

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two palms together in the middle thank god i didnt go for it

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🙏 *

random locust
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guys has anyone modded with thinsulate yet?

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i was wondering if more layers make a difference

agile grove
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for o-ring mount on the module do you need the base or 2u set of clip ins?

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@fluid ravine

agile grove
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gotcha

torpid crow
#

i gave up on thock and removed all the foams its clack time

agile grove
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you can see the o-ring right? I wanna get a green graveshift to match my build but its 45a and softer would make it thockier.

shadow mountain
#

For those who were interested in using cerakey keycaps -- mine just arrived today... I went for the A set only. Spacebar works great and the RGB looks -chef kiss-, also there is a slight hum to the rattle now when a key is let slip to release. I will try to have a picture up shortly, but I am just on my lunch break.

shadow mountain
agile grove
void hollow
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do i need to remove switches to have access to my pcb foam @-@

shadow mountain
#

So I can't decide for you if you should get a stronger color in there, but I do enjoy being able to change and have the color of the month splash to the clear o-ring.

agile grove
#

what o-ring did you get?

ancient bluff
#

Is the geonworks raptor switches really mess up the rbg when you install it north facing?

shadow mountain
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4mmx1mmx1.5mm | View order

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yes @marble shuttle and @quiet bay give me a couple

bronze grove
loud zephyr
void hollow
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well, my tape mod is in the way oh god

shadow mountain
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@quiet bay

void hollow
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i am having fun

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realising that a good number of my plate standoffs went missing

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nevermind, i found it, its stuck in the pcb foam LMAO

shadow mountain
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LOL yeah some cases come with a tiny little bag with 3-5 in there.. hahah

void hollow
quiet bay
polar girder
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Tinny

quiet bay
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🤔

terse temple
#

i tried to do the tape mod but now my windows key and my left control key dont work, what did i do?

shadow mountain
terse temple
#

ok so i just needed to unplug it and plug it back in 🤣

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got a heart attack

void hollow
#

my spacebar so muted rn

untold wigeon
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unmute

fluid ravine
void hollow
#

odd lmao, my keyboard sounds so uneven

untold wigeon
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Will spray lubing work (I'm probably one of the laziest people in the world and I don't like wasting hours of my life in order to do so)

void hollow
#

every lubing method works, it really just depends on person if you care enough to put the time to do it

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surely it may be like a few hours, but think about it, you only have to properly lube it every how many years

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haha dude modding his keyboard on this chat i saw that :3

silver pecan
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lmao i was just spamming the keys

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tryna hear something

void hollow
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honestly, even i am so lazy to lube my keyboard (still on factory lube even though i already bought the 205g0 and 105), might just get one of my friends to do it for me and treat them a meal xD

void hollow
untold wigeon
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What are some mods I can do for clack noise

void hollow
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thin or no foam?

untold wigeon
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wdym thin

void hollow
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im tryna find the video xD

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imo this video below is quite good knowledge when building a keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8k0u75eLQ&

#Keybored #mechanicalkeyboard YOU Make Your Keyboard Clack or Thock - Featuring Wind X65

In this hobby, many of us chase a certain type of characteristic from our boards. Whether it's a thocky or clacky sound, soft or stiff typing feel, the visual aethetics, the outcome is endless. However, out of all these, one of the most discussed and aske...

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gaunt linden
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How many layers of tape is ok on the stock case ?

void hollow
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i did 3 layers for my friend and on my current custom *of blue painters tape

gaunt linden
#

Did you have to remove some of the stock foam?

void hollow
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nope

gaunt linden
#

Doesn’t it have to have some room to breathe or something like that? I fell like the foam is touching the pcb

untold wigeon
#

Yo if I were to lube the switches manually do I need to remove the pcb

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Or the thing holding the keyboard together

sacred jay
shrewd hatch
#

Alot easier to just take apart tho

void hollow
#

for me i just pretty much just do it with the pcb screwed to the case

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im using gateron's switch puller so yea idk

void hollow
#

well im just thinking if its able to close its all good xD

#

im like struggling with my keyboard lmao, it sounds so bad when its recorded but when i hear it irl it sounds way better
new recording: #1179300178281373716 message

might be keycap or plate issue but yea it oddly sounds towards the idk side

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kinda impulse bought this so 💀

quiet bay
#

also ur wooting sounds like

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clicky

void hollow
#

i agree lmao, with thocc mods hmm

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i mean like some people mentioned the fr4 plate is ass but like, im tryna give it a chance, like praying that its actually just my keycaps

void hollow
#

some cheap shopee doubleshot pbt that feels so thin

quiet bay
#

O

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well go ahead and try the glorious keycaps on now

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see the difference it makes

void hollow
#

does this look thin?

untold wigeon
#

sounds like shit bro

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Yo bro thanks

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np

quiet bay
untold wigeon
#

\

loud zephyr
void hollow
untold wigeon
#

sounds like its broken

void hollow
#

ive got quite alot of options to try out soon, bought some polyfill, quality keycaps, pc plate, removing some foam etc. just gotta catch some sleep xD its almost 10am here

void hollow
# untold wigeon sounds like its broken

sure does sound broken in the recording, sounds a little better irl tbh not sure what it is, could be the sensitivity of the condenser mic too, but the inconsistency of the sound across the board is surely something annyoing

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playing the recording on my studio monitors make me wanna kms even more

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spending 550sgd on my keyboard just for it to sound like dogsheeeeshit- cries to be me

loud zephyr
#

start wearing IEM's more often and you'll soon forget what your keyboard sounds like

marsh saffron
finite gate
marsh saffron
#

why do people buy glorious mice

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unless your some sweaty mc player why would you buy that garbage

finite gate
#

also every fps comp has people using glorious mice

loud zephyr
#

With a name like Glorious PC Gaming Race, you'd be crazy not to buy their products

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Get left behind, newbz

finite gate
#

real

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every one of their products is just is a marked up rebrand with their logo on it

loud zephyr
#

They started off so well and then fizzled out. Selling stabilizers with gunk on it was a nice touch though

marsh saffron
#

that doesnt mean anything lol

void hollow
#

im running a hd600 haha and i dont notice anything other than ingame sound :D

marsh saffron
#

ive got hd599s

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if im playing/listening to music i dont hear it

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but if ive got no audio playing or its very quiet i can still faintly hear my keyboard

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i dont mind it

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i like hearing it when im typing still

void hollow
marsh saffron
#

when i click space or enter i can kinda hear it over my music sometimes

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because i fucking slam those keys

finite gate
#

lmaooo

void hollow
#

me when i play rocket league CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK

marsh saffron
#

i lubed and tape modded mine, its not that loud but i didnt do the greatest job lubing it

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gonna go back and do it again

median spade
#

Magnets in the raptors are way better and idk how anyone can prefer the stock L60/L45 ones over it

loud zephyr
#

How do you even measure the performance difference?

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It's the same to me just feels diff

marsh saffron
#

i heard people say the raptors have a stronger magnet and are a bit more sensitive

median spade
#

i was just doing finger taps to compare

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and in apex doing movement stuff

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and like it's basically like breathing on them with the geon ones

loud zephyr
#

It wouldn't matter in real world time

marsh saffron
#

but i havent used l45s or geons so

median spade
#

i mean that goes for a standard keybvoard too but you wouldn't have a wooting if thait was the case think

loud zephyr
#

I like new toys

#

now that's an efficient and highly tuned athletic keyboard

median spade
#

wkl qaz KEKWait

untold wigeon
#

How can i make my board sound nice

loud zephyr
#

By trying every combination until you're so tired of it that you just say fuck it: good enough

quiet bay
weak prairie
#

does using a magnetic screwdriver have any risk when modding the wooting or is it ok

agile grove
#

does tape mod help with thock or clack?

finite gate
agile grove
#

I've seen people use electrical tape and it makes me squirm

finite gate
#

Actually all tape does

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If you want your board to last more than a year dont do tape mod

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tape mod also makes your board louder + poppier

finite gate
#

just like how metal artisans are fine

weak prairie
#

i don’t know how hall effect works entirely

finite gate
#

as long as the magnet isnt too powerful it should be fine

finite gate
#

to actuate

weak prairie
#

if the strength of the magnets in the keyboard got messed with somehow would it damage it ?

finite gate
#

if it senses the magnets are at the actuation distance you set it will actuate

finite gate
#

I use a rather powerful magnetic screwdriver but no wooting

spring magnet
#

Anyone know any good orange key cap sets

jagged ermine
#

is there a difference between wooting's lube kit and any cheap lube kit from amazon?

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like why is it 2x more expensive? is there something special

untold wigeon
halcyon obsidian
#

Because as far as I know not all lube with the same name ie krytox 205g0 is made the same and quality can vary greatly depending where/who you purchase it from

finite gate
finite gate
#

Get lube from rebutable vendors

halcyon obsidian
finite gate
#

yee

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but then most vendors just take some krytox from a big jar and package it

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kinetic labs has very good krytoz

jagged ermine
halcyon obsidian
stable kindle
#

whats new

#

give me the deets

finite gate
gaunt linden
spring magnet
#

side legend keycap recommendations?

civic knot
#

Finally got the wooting modded

fluid ravine
civic knot
#

lubed switches, burger mount, and just half the original foam in a redux ( with brass weight) and some keykaps from kbdfans.. @fluid ravine feels great...gonna take a lil to get used too

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had trouble with a couple of the orings...hopefully wooting just makes one that goes around the pcb...i wuld prolly buy that to make things easier...like the one in bad seed techs vid

void hollow
#

hope the 550sgd to 800sgd mark makes a difference in the sound

void hollow
#

ngl ive never yet seen a good looking side legend keycap set?

void hollow
#

thanks

valid sun
#

That's too cool

finite gate
#

made only for tiktokers

dense flower
bronze grove
#

Overhead projector and some programming.

crimson sky
bronze grove
pale aspen
#

Takka60 listing is up on Taobao now

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12/29 Release date

glacial wind
#

lol, that can't be a coincidence with timing

pale aspen
#

case is pretty coollll

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but no arrow key pcb

#

why

pale aspen
#

no big deal for wooting

glacial wind
#

i'm confused why they want to even try launch at same time as the new wooting when it's not even a competing form factor

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would kind of make sense if it was some 75% pcb, but it's just another 60%

crimson sky
#

cause people in that space still prefer 60%?

pale aspen
#

i were them 60% first and then tkl , 75%

onyx pier
#

Its more expensive than the wooting

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But it looks good ngl

glacial wind
#

yeah but I mean why bother scheduling at same timing as the wooting stuff then, just launch it whenever

pale aspen
#

alu case

glacial wind
#

unless it's an unfortunate coincidence

pale aspen
#

plate at choosen

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and supposed-ly better performance

onyx pier
#

Maybe they want to get in the game

pale aspen
#

from their video

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it is better than wooting

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no dead zone

glacial wind
#

i wish all these reviewers would actually use the keyboard and test out the consistency

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deadzone and measurements are great and all but the entire point of having a rt keyboard is it being consistent with it's rt and not buggy

pale aspen
#

$199 is pretty good deal,
Case - Tofu60 redux color at choosen
Plate - FR4 , Alu , CF
Switch - white and orange

pale aspen
#

rakka own gb didnt ship yet

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but KBDfan come out with Rakka collab

glacial wind
#

the kdbfans one is still interest check phase isn't it

pale aspen
#

from Taobao listing, usually it is ready to sell in 29/12

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from past expereince

glacial wind
#

taobao always is earlier though

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i mean for western launch it might be a bit later

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kind of like how meletrix loves doing their chinese sales before opening up to western/non chinese sales later

pale aspen
#

usually on Kbdfan site usually sell at the same time with taobao

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except from GMK stuff

glacial wind
#

hrm I guess we'll see then on 29th

pale aspen
#

holy is so hot

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ahhhh

#

2024 gonna be year of HE for real

glacial wind
#

at least meletrix is sending theirs to badseedtech so at least he'll give it a proper gaming run

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but it's so hard to get proper reviews for most RT releases

pale aspen
#

interesting

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so now we have two big incoming prebuilt on market

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both at $199

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Boog (non exploded 75%)
Takka60 (standard 60%)

glacial wind
#

don't forget q1 he too

finite gate
#

m1he, q1he, a75

dense flower
#

Lubed stems and springs of L60 and L45 switches with Krytox 205g0. Replaced WASD and few other switches with L45. Double layer tape mod underneath space bar.

frosty sentinel
#

Compatible with the wooting ???

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They’re closed back.. which should solve the weird sound issue.. not sure if anyone has used these yet

glacial wind
#

Supposedly yes but no one here has tested them yet since they’re only just releasing in china soon

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We’re assuming it’ll sound very clacky like the neo closed back switches demo from other day

agile grove
#

anyone here who has done gummy o-ring friction mount, can you see the o-ring around the board? I want to get a graveshify o-ring in green (it'll match my build) but its 45a and a softer one would sound thockier.

grizzled path
glacial wind
#

oh nice

grizzled path
#

I want to hear the mahjong hifi sound

glacial wind
#

someone buy and test sound lol

grizzled path
#

I would actually order them now but just had to pay a plumber 400€ :E

glacial wind
#

actually i'm more curious if they improved the stem wobble

grizzled path
#

that and what the closed bottom does to performance if anything

halcyon obsidian
#

mahjong means thocky right?

grizzled path
#

something like that

dense flower
grizzled path
#

this is all I know

gaunt linden
agile grove
agile grove
#

mahjong sounds every so slightly thocky, but it is pretty clacky

halcyon obsidian
#

idk thats just what I saw on a reddit post is that mohjong is used to describe thocky

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also

frosty sentinel
#

Well I ordered em boys.. I’ll update when they come in

grizzled path
#

great!

agile grove
#

does the graveshift medium o-ring fit in the tofu redux?

frosty sentinel
velvet egret
agile grove
#

im bouta buy it, please let me know

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which one did you get?

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badseed said it works actually

frosty sentinel
#

I ordered the medium

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In the modding FAQ that’s what they say to go with

agile grove
#

what color tho?

frosty sentinel
#

I went with brown cause it matches my case lol

wind karma
#

okay mahjong is thock but why is HIFI in there

agile grove
wind karma
#

why are they using the word mahjong though

grizzled path
#

chinese thing

thorny canopy
#

Whoever bought the pc switch plate did you guys use the stock foam, silicone, or the provided poron foam

stray tiger
#

Sorry gents for those who pinged me or DM'd me. My girlfriend had surgery yesterday and I've been away and lacking sleep lol

grizzled path
#

damn, hope everything's good there

agile grove
stray tiger
#

Yeah went well, she is just in a lot of pain.

halcyon obsidian
#

the hifi just means high fidelity or high quality audio

stray tiger
wind karma
grizzled path
#

they also describe the sound as rhythmic symphony of music notes so it's just marketing

wind karma
#

i've never heard the word thacky.. how does that sound? 😁

agile grove
halcyon obsidian
#

thock and clacky

wind karma
agile grove
#

you could look up mahjong switch sound test on youtube

grizzled path
wind karma
#

okay

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WAIT

halcyon obsidian
#

thats mostly speculation tho we have 0 sound test

austere creek
wind karma
#

that sounds.. "marbly"

agile grove
grizzled path
#

well it's not 1-to-1 to that lul

halcyon obsidian
#

you right

agile grove
austere creek
#

id imagine the comparison might be more to a mahjong stone being placed on a mahjong table

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where it has a more muted thock

wind karma
#

i heard keyboard that sound kind of like that tho

halcyon obsidian
stray tiger
#

You're fast @austere creek

agile grove
#

I bet they'll sound something like this https://youtu.be/u2zYiFBkAM4?t=151

In this video, I'll be doing a comprehensive sound test of the Dareu Mahjong switch on a full keyboard, using SA, MT3, and GMK keycaps. The Mahjong is a really smooth linear switch with sublime sound! It is one of the loudest linear switches that I've tested! Nearly perfect switch while not being on the cheap side…

I'll also be sharing my thoug...

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frosty sentinel
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I’m hoping for a little deeper tone..

wind karma
agile grove
frosty sentinel
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I’m doing a PC plate, gasket mount in a redux case.. we’ll see how they sound when they come in

void hollow
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sry

frosty sentinel
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I just ordered from Gateron website.. they’re in stock.

halcyon obsidian
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that vid is also using fr plate, no foam, and probably screw mounted so

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the sound is gonna be loud

frosty sentinel
halcyon obsidian
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someone on reddit ordered them on alibaba 4 days ago so maybe in 2-3 days we will see a sound test

frosty sentinel
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Nice

halcyon obsidian
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do you have an eta?

frosty sentinel
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Nah, I just ordered them an hour ago.. I did do express shipping so 2-5 days.

grizzled path
halcyon obsidian
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I mean they factory

agile grove
grizzled path
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well they are still linear switches so they will sound like linear switches, we'll just have to wait and see hear

halcyon obsidian
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take with a gain of salt but

grizzled path
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anyway it's just a term people use over there, just like "thocky" or "clacky " or "bonky" or "crème brûlée" wouldn't tell much about a sound to an outsider, mahjong is just another word for a specific kind of sound chinese people like which switch makers now use in marketing because their target audience can decipher something from it, or not

stray tiger
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Thocky, clicky, clacky, creamy, mellow, smooth, crispy, thunky, etc. Which sounds different to everyone and doesn't really describe much.

halcyon obsidian
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or it caters to a majority like tuning headphone to the harmon curve cause it caters to a majority

agile grove
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even clacky isnt exactly uniform

halcyon obsidian
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I feel like this is like arguing colors cause we all see them differently

void hollow
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how about a muted keyboard

stray tiger
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I mean if you summarize that people can differentiate between lower frequency sounds and higher frequency sounds, then yes. But I don't think they will usually agree on which of those random descriptive words matches a keyboard sound every time

agile grove
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everyone has their own idea of a keyboard sound

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personally I like really deep thock

halcyon obsidian
agile grove
stray tiger
halcyon obsidian
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you will still have a majority no matter what

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even if its 51%

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think it has thock

stray tiger
agile grove
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I mean, they're made up words, whose to say what they mean

halcyon obsidian
stray tiger
# halcyon obsidian you will still have a majority no matter what

If the question is high freq vs low freq then yes likely. I just mean if you say something is thocky and the next guy says that's more creamy to me and then someone goes it's kind of low clack or mid chonk. It's just not a good technical way to describe sounds. It takes a subjective sound test and applies a vague term, making it super confusing.

agile grove
halcyon obsidian
stray tiger
# halcyon obsidian but yet we still use it

Yes but light and colors can be measured by temperature so there is a way to accurately say what spectrum a color is in. The same can be done with sound and is used in the music/speaker industry. We should do the same but that takes knowledge of frequency response.

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You could say "I prefer my keyboard sound response to be in the 100-200hz range 😂

halcyon obsidian
stray tiger
halcyon obsidian
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I just think keyboard enthusiast haven't hit the level of like audiophiles yet

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but they prob will

void hollow
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im getting brain damage from how my keyboard sounds really muted

stray tiger
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But first we would need to create a scale where we define those terms "Thock = Under 500hz" for example

halcyon obsidian
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most people are trying to do with there boards with the different mods but just dont know the science behind it

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like when ppl are looking for thocc

void hollow
halcyon obsidian
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they are adding foam to change the frequency but just dont have number behind it

void hollow
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having ample understanding of how sound works really helps to develop in which sound profile you're looking for

stray tiger
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Watch some of the KeyBored videos. He is great about explaining the science behind the mods

stray tiger
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