🔧│keyboard_modding

[harsh dove]

Probably fine

[fluid ravine]

i mean i think you should lube the bottom housing personally
i havent tried them but i do think they aare alreasdy great so you dont need to

[harsh dove]

I’d probably lube the bottom and top housings personally but up to you

I get mine in tomorrow

[fluid ravine]

:D

tell me how it goesss

[thorny canopy]

has anyone done a tape mod and realized a difference on a aluminum case?

[quiet bay]

yes

deeper sound

[thorny canopy]

got any recs on which tape to use?

[quiet bay]

Masking Tape and Painter's Tape is very common so you can start with that

I use a mix of masking tape and moleskin tape

moleskin tape gives a very deep sound because of its material and thickness

[thorny canopy]

did you make two layers of tape, one of each?

[quiet bay]

2 layers of masking tape, 1 layer of moleskin tape

[thorny canopy]

im assuming you would place the masking tape first onto the pcb and moleskin on the top of the layers

[quiet bay]

yes

[valid pier]

I’m new to keyboard modding and not sure what kind of case to buy for my wooting. Does anyone have recommendations ?

My best option now is tofu 60 redux

[untold wigeon]

id stick with that if i were u

at least fora while

its a great option

if your looking into kb modding is rlly dont think cases should be where most your time is spent 😭 (after yk the sound signature of each material)

[untold wigeon]

whyd you opt of that instead of 1 layer masking 2 layers moleskin?

[quiet bay]

because I like that configuration better

it is all down to preference

[untold wigeon]

sounds too deep with 2 in ur opinion?

[quiet bay]

yes

[untold wigeon]

have a vid of the difference?

[quiet bay]

no

[untold wigeon]

dam

him ok, well testing it is gonna be rlly easy so ill js do it myself

[devout torrent]

So for more deep just do 2 layers each?

[untold wigeon]

js the case tape not smth like switch tape mod layers

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[devout torrent]

Or can I just do all moleskin tape

[valid pier]

Thank youuu I’ll buy the tofu 60 redux

[untold wigeon]

yh wym each tho

[untold wigeon]

not recommended by pochizo cuz the bottom if the tape is like sticky or smth and i dont remember if he said it leaves residue so thats why he puts masking tape below it

[harsh dove]

I just use 1 layer of Moleskin

nothing else

[untold wigeon]

2 😼

[devout torrent]

Ima try 2 and 2 cuz seems good

[harsh dove]

I'm pretty happy with 1 personally, but feel free to try 2

[untold wigeon]

2 & 2??? like 4

[devout torrent]

Should I not do 4?

[untold wigeon]

pretty sure 4 is too much bc the space u have in the redux case

[devout torrent]

Just 2 moleskin 1 tape

[untold wigeon]

nvr heard of anyone ever doing 4

[harsh dove]

Do whatever you want as long as everything is still compatible

[untold wigeon]

yhh, ima do the same

[harsh dove]

See what you like

[untold wigeon]

no way 4 will fit

[harsh dove]

Depends on length of your screws and even then you could probably compress the tape enough to screw in, if it were to be too thick

[untold wigeon]

yh but u dont want the usb type c to be like shoved up and maybe damage the port over time

i had my wooting with the cable plugged in in my backpack during travel on accident

[harsh dove]

Right, which is why I said as long as everything is still compatible

[untold wigeon]

fucking chipping the fucking top of the port

makes it so difficult to play

i need new wooting

[quiet bay]

no residue but it's a pain in the ass to take it off

[untold wigeon]

gonna get module

[untold wigeon]

have to twirl the cable like twice and push it bottom right & have my phone sit on top of it

stfg

[untold wigeon]

oh

[harsh dove]

I mean once you do the mod, you're not really taking it on and off

as long as you cut screw holes

[untold wigeon]

disconnects all the time and gets me killed 👍 can barley play tourneys anymore till i get new one

[untold wigeon]

yh

[untold wigeon]

does it seem like it could damage the pcb??

[harsh dove]

no

Just don't rip it off like the Hulk

[untold wigeon]

u tried molskin on pcb?

[harsh dove]

Pull slowly

[untold wigeon]

first layer

[harsh dove]

I have it on now yes

[untold wigeon]

oh

ok

[untold wigeon]

yeah

[harsh dove]

And tbh if you take it off multiple times, the adhesive becomes weaker each time so it's easier to pull off

but the first time pulling it off will be toughish

[untold wigeon]

i gottchu

[untold wigeon]

what moleskin do u guys have

link?

im seeing a lot of diff ones

[quiet bay]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYVTECJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[harsh dove]

https://a.co/d/g8JkieG

I got this one

Just cause it's wider and fits the width of the PCB so you only need one strip instead of multiple

[untold wigeon]

is wider

i see that

its big asf on the vid

thickness wise

[harsh dove]

haha yeah

[untold wigeon]

gonna get that one

its thicker

i dont see why not

thanks bro❤️🥰

[harsh dove]

Yeah, up to you really, no problem

[untold wigeon]

❤️❤️*

💀

do u guys think kilmat would be better in a spacebar than masking or moleskin tape?

or no

are ceramic keycaps better than pbt? do they sound better?

[quiet bay]

Ceramic keycaps tend to lead to a deeper pitched sound

so if you're looking for that then sure

Ceramic keycaps have an ultra smooth surface

you either like it or don't like it

[untold wigeon]

thock in a keycap

[untold wigeon]

what would this benefit & would it interfere w tempest or band aid?

[halcyon obsidian]

can someone send me a sound test of a raptors with the stem swapped

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[heady terrace]

anyone have trouble with stabs on stem swapped raptor?

[polar girder]

How so

[plucky umbra]

Does anyone have the psd60 plate file for the frog mini. (Nevermind, found it)

[untold wigeon]

switch pad is solder version right

assuming u bought from kbdfans

[untold wigeon]

they dont explain well on site

[fluid ravine]

bought mine from cannonkeys

[untold wigeon]

o

well then prolly pochizo bought from kbd fans

will ask ltr

[heady terrace]

some switches when i press a keycap down on the stabs it stays down

[quiet bay]

Probably a problem with ur stabs then

[quiet bay]

I got mine from divinikey

[quiet bay]

Probably to reduce contact with the case and also serves as some type of protection ig

[onyx pier]

you mean like it registers the spacebar?

[lilac grove]

did some one ever use corrugated cardboard instead of case foam

[quiet bay]

no

[lilac grove]

i want to know how that sounds

[quiet bay]

Probably hollow

[lilac grove]

dont think so

but depends what cardboard ofc

[heady terrace]

like the key gets stuck literally

[fluid ravine]

keycap

tolerance

take out the keycap

use a stem puller and check on the stabilizer

if the stem move up and down fine

then your keycap has a high tolerance with the stem causing it to be stuck

[polar girder]

Yeah I get that a little also

I think only backspace and it doesn’t really stay down but kind of slow return

Not great

[fluid ravine]

i have thaat problem with my TX AP stabs

esp with my left shift key

has a major problem

my other modifiers were fine over time

[heady terrace]

ya i have those LOL

[fluid ravine]

yeah so its the keycap tolerance

i feel you bro

mines are working fine

i had to replace the left shift with stock

so

[halcyon obsidian]

does doing the raptor/Lekker stem change the actuation at all? or does it still have the 0.1 to 4mm

[fluid ravine]

the lekker has standard stuff
raptor has a stronger magnet so its more sensitive

and yes you can still access 0.1 and 4m

[loud zephyr]

what if the magnets die

nevermind, apparently they last for 100's of years

[polar girder]

But lekker stem is lekker magnet

[fluid ravine]

you know what i think it is

a magnet

[halcyon obsidian]

HUH

[halcyon obsidian]

so is it more sensitive iwth the lekker stem?

or the same

[final wedge]

I’d be worried about crosstalk with a stronger magnet

[true patrol]

why are people so consistently mentioning the rgb not looking the same with colored hall effect switches. like, it’s in every comment I see about them.

the market of people who want to swap switches for something that feels and sounds better has almost no crossover with the market of people who care about rgb that I’ve seen

[surreal stirrup]

having more information about the products you're considering > having less information about the products you're considering

[true patrol]

V true, I just don’t normally see something like that mentioned with this consistency lol

[silver pecan]

Yo would u guys say my spacebar sounds bad compared to the rest of the keyboard?

Obviously it’s supposed to sound different but not sure if it’s supposed to sound like that, i lubed the switch and the stabilizers

[true patrol]

No that sounds about right, they usually sound pretty different from the rest in a deeper tone like that

There is foam you can get specifically for spacebars (from kbdfans or others) if you want to try and get it closer to the rest

[silver pecan]

Alright thanks, also I swapped the keycap for the spacebar because the other one feels mushy on one side, I checked if it’s warp and I swear it’s not, is it just that the keycap was faulty or something

[glacial wind]

It could be that keycap is tighter tolerance and you maybe over tightened one side of the stab/it’s not aligned perfectly

If it’s the pbtfans keycap I’d be surprised if it’s a warp issue just due to them having newer molds - but it’s technically possibly the keycap has warping too

[silver pecan]

Like by aligned u mean when I put the stabs into the pcb?

Here’s the one with the messed up spacebar

[glacial wind]

Yeah you’d need to check the actual stabiliser back to see if it’s resting straight

[silver pecan]

Like u mean the wire?

I’m pretty sure it’s straight I don’t think it’s bent, I checked

[frosty sentinel]

Lemme hear yalls thockest wootings

[glacial wind]

No the actual screwed in part

If it’s not sitting flush and flat it can cause mushiness

[dapper vault]

two he mods

??

[heady terrace]

sound test for you guys

[silver pecan]

One more thing, my enter key is buggin on the left side, the stabilizers are loose compared to the other ones, I’ve tried different ones too

is it the pcb? because like no matter what stabilizers i put therye still somewhat loose

[bronze grove]

Switch plate if anything. Your stabilizers aren't touching the PCB at all.

[stray stump]

Do u know good keycaps ISO French ?

[crimson sky]

very cursed switch

zealistotles

[kind yew]

[untold wigeon]

more sensitive..???? wym

like .1-.15-.2-.25

is it only available heavier than the L45s?

[glacial wind]

Basically it just means if you play on 0.5 actuation for example it might feel more like 0.3 on the raptors

The starting point is a tad more sensitive vs lekkers

[untold wigeon]

thats so fuckin good

whats the lightest weight one they have

wait where do i find these treasures 🤤

[glacial wind]

Depends on country. Divinikeys if you’re usa

Keep in mind if you’re not on extremely low actuation there’s no real gain sensitivity wise since you’d just be changing your starting point by a tad

It’s kind of like how you could just set your actuation more sensitive by 0.2 now already if you were on 0.5

[untold wigeon]

every key i use is .1 w/ rt besides like esc windows key & map (g) lol

[harsh dove]

I use 0.4mm on WASD and about 1.2mm on almost everything else except a few keys I have at 2.0 and 2.5 and 4.0

[untold wigeon]

hold the fuck on

so the gaming version is 3mm instead of 4mm totoal travel

end less total cn force

[glacial wind]

you want the raptor he not the raptor mx

mx is not hall effect

[harsh dove]

^

[untold wigeon]

ohhhhhh

oh man ok ok i see

thanks thanks

[harsh dove]

Mx is a standard switch

[glacial wind]

i use 0.1 wasd but i changed it to 0.3 on the raptors because the 0.1 felt just a tad too hair trigger on the raptors

[untold wigeon]

so the raptor he

[harsh dove]

Yes

[untold wigeon]

stop. your gonna get me too excited.

no fuckin way 😭

i play comp. im about to

😭😭😭😭😭

[glacial wind]

i'm surprised you use 0.1 all keys actually, most folks find it way too sensitive even on lekkers

[harsh dove]

It is lol

[untold wigeon]

holy fuck the fact that i thought i was ab to build my end game kb & didnt even know ab fuckin half the things i heard yesterday 😭😭😭

[untold wigeon]

yh but im notta casual i dunno i dont miss press i rlly dunno how they do

act act hold on my S key is .5

💀 i forgot ab that

lmaoo

[harsh dove]

Did you just say you’re not a casual while also saying you didn’t know about half this keyboard stuff yesterday? Lol

[untold wigeon]

not a casual in the game i play, whats that have to do with keyboard modding

[harsh dove]

Everything

[untold wigeon]

not a single pro knows how to kb mod (well)

[harsh dove]

They should

[untold wigeon]

i guess so but its not smth that they will. also besides these switches theres really no competitive benefit what so ever with even max modding

[untold wigeon]

not rlly worth their time to learn

[harsh dove]

Well yeah most mods are just for sound and feel

Nothing that affects gaming performance

[grizzled path]

0.1 with tachyon on isn't as sensitive than without it, very manageable

[untold wigeon]

well half the things i heard yesterday were u could band aid mod with grease, switch tape mod, uh gummy o ring mod, polyfill, switch pads are useable on the wooting

things like that

very not like basic

[untold wigeon]

yeah thats what im saying

[harsh dove]

lol I was just giving you crap, but yeah I feel you

[untold wigeon]

thats my point

those switches tho, im completely surprised how they aren’t hard dick rode and like extremely popular

or mainstream

nvr heard of them till yesterday and js ignored it💀

[harsh dove]

They kinda are tbh

[grizzled path]

raptor's? they're new

[untold wigeon]

oh lmfaoo

[harsh dove]

Lots of people been buying them here at least

[glacial wind]

If you use the test firmware it’s same with tachyon on now

They seem to have fixed that old issue

[grizzled path]

yeah I tried it but updated to the main branch once it got a new update

haven't bothered to put the testsignal fw back

[untold wigeon]

probably very popular in modding comm, probably decently known in kb comm, but in a games comp scene i promise in at least mine its nvr been heard of lol

are they new???

[harsh dove]

Yeah new

Like two weeks ago

[untold wigeon]

oh yh, well makes sense

[harsh dove]

And yeah I doubt comp gamers know about them lol

[untold wigeon]

what..????

[untold wigeon]

oh

[untold wigeon]

o shi

it’s probably likely they will get popular then

[grizzled path]

yes, it's a problem that has been looked at for a good while now and there's a test firmware that makes it better, but it's not in the main branch yet since they need to verify it doesn't fuck anything else up for the majority

[untold wigeon]

gonna be sold out for months

[harsh dove]

Yeah I get mine in the mail today

[untold wigeon]

😭😭😭😭

[harsh dove]

[untold wigeon]

yh realistically if like one of them find out or their coach does or like org manager, theyll prolly tell em but then itll all be a secret for a while and mainstream in that game or like comp scene that isnt pro just wont find out for a much longer time

cuz u cant see switches on stream😭😭

gatekept thing

[untold wigeon]

are the raptors different housing material??

so would switch tape mod still be necessary?

[harsh dove]

Have you done the frank switch Jed? What’s your take on it ?

[harsh dove]

Yes they’re nylon

[harsh dove]

And most have said no

[untold wigeon]

omg 4-7 hrs saved

💀💀😭

[glacial wind]

Yeah I used it for a day. It does make it tighter but it had a franken switch feel in that you can honestly tell it’s a tad too tight

[harsh dove]

Yeah I planned on leaving mine stock

[glacial wind]

for people who prefer heavier feeling switches it's still good though, but it made my raptors feel like L65-70 bottom out instead of 52g

didn't love that feeling when gaming so I swapped them back

[harsh dove]

Sweet, thanks for your feedback

[heady terrace]

that’s my sound test for the frankenswitch if u want

[glacial wind]

I'm curious to see what will be out by the time wootings tkl/75 comes out since it'd be mid next year sometime probably going off past projects if announced end of year

[untold wigeon]

wait

bro L45s are lighter than raptors

so like how does it make sense that they feel quicker or smth like im not understanding

[grizzled path]

heftier magnet

[heady terrace]

the magnet is stronger

the spring weight has nothing to do with it

[untold wigeon]

it also has a heavier staring force

[grizzled path]

but that's not why people like them, they're less wobbly

[untold wigeon]

hm

[untold wigeon]

yh but i can play much better on l45 than l60

[harsh dove]

Yeah main thing was housing wobble

Or stem wobble

[untold wigeon]

js weight thing

[glacial wind]

lighter does not equal faster

[untold wigeon]

im that

but thats switch wise

[heady terrace]

placebo

[untold wigeon]

lighter does equal faster for a hand

[heady terrace]

i mean if u want u can throw those springs in the raptors

[glacial wind]

spring weight is very different to speed of actuation unless you feather touch

if you press insanely lightly there might be a different time but most people don't light touch their keys

[untold wigeon]

switches arnt faster if theyre lighter. OBV. but hands are faster is switches are lighter

[untold wigeon]

lmao yh no

[glacial wind]

that's not really how it works because the force required to push down the key is WAAAY more than you need usually

[untold wigeon]

i dont play like fuckin league or smth where u press the keys slow😭

[glacial wind]

so speed wise it doesn't really affect things, but it does come into play when you spam keys

[heady terrace]

like i said you can just spring swap if you wanted to…

[glacial wind]

when you spam keys over a long period of time you'll notice the fatigue more on heavier springs

[untold wigeon]

im actually really not understanding which id like more, this is fucked😭😭

[glacial wind]

L45 vs L52 isn't that big honestly

[harsh dove]

You’ll most likely enjoy the raptors if you prefer more sensitivity

For gaming

[glacial wind]

yeah raptors at 52g bottom out is already on the lighter side

unless you're playing osu or something I don't know why you'd want it even lighter

wooting is releasing that spring pack at some point too if you really wanted to go super light

going L30 or whatever their lowest is at 0.1 actuation might be psychotic though

[untold wigeon]

wait thats actually the strat

omg i love u sm

fuckin goat

[heady terrace]

i said that like twice for you lol

[untold wigeon]

yh sorry was talking irl lol

cant wait to open switches for a yr tho

😭

[glacial wind]

i'm curious to see how geon raptor v2 in march will be. By then we'll probably know more about the upcoming wooting tkl/75 and might even be a couple more switch options on the market

next wooting keyboard might be a fun mod job

[heady terrace]

i forgot that frankenswitching it basically you lose the stronger magnet anyways LOL

[untold wigeon]

listen i dont know how to explain this correctly and obv a spring doesnt make the switches less actuation or less latency or wtvr tf, but your droning like not understanding what im saying, i played on L60 and i fucking hated them, played slow asf, got l45s loved them sm, felt like my gk61, and i was able to play same finger pressing speed and energy but way quicker keyboard

[agile grove]

I think the ones coming in march don’t have any improvements they’re just clear white

[untold wigeon]

best way i can explain it.

its simple rlly

it rlly is

idk why im getting responded to like im stupid or smth

[untold wigeon]

ohhh

u do understand 😭

yea yeah, thats what im saying

switch is same speed of course but U can play much much quicker & better if your like good at the game

and can feel all of the difference

[untold wigeon]

bro thats exactly what im saying, im not fat or any thing, and go to the gym all the time usually 5 days of the week, actually ironically train arms most i noticed, and still did all of this when i okayed L60s and i legit go so tired and like after not even playing for that long, my hands were slightly cramping and i played like sum low sens pro 😭

[untold wigeon]

…. wooting is releasing L30 springs..???? or L45 springs?

[sage flicker]

you have to work out harder at the gym imo

in order to use L60s properly

[untold wigeon]

real

L60s are like lifting weights 😫

[sage flicker]

gonna do you a solid though. Here are some springs I found. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CJ4RFVMW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 - 25g starting force, 37g bottom out. Works with Lekker. But mine's still in shipping.

[glacial wind]

They’re releasing a spring pack. Was talked about awhile ago in leaks

[untold wigeon]

bro

i have no words

i feel like i just discoverd fire

WHAT THE FUCK

I WILL HAVE THE WOOTING 2.0 FROM 2033

😭😭

[untold wigeon]

you did just do me a fucking solid 😭😭😭😭

[torn summit]

anyone knows any red/grey french iso keycaps ? I wanna buy a wooting and customise it to match my mousepad

[untold wigeon]

i feel like i owe you a lifetime supply of chick fil a

💀😭😭

thank you so much bro

[pale aspen]

how about this?

https://i.imgur.com/kmmLAMz.jpeg

but with Red legend color instead

instead of black

alpha is beige L9
mod is gray U9

[torn summit]

oh yeah i kinda dig this it looks like an old keyboard

[untold wigeon]

do u guys think kilmat would be better in a spacebar than masking or moleskin tape?

[torn summit]

like the year 2000 old

[untold wigeon]

or no

[pale aspen]

shipping gonna kill you tho

21kb.com

since i can order from china for $17 lol

[torn summit]

yeahhh + I cant find the french layout on there

[pale aspen]

there is

but

150 euro

[torn summit]

DAMN

[pale aspen]

but with 21kb

you get real french keyboard

i just noticed nav key

it is in french too lol

so cool

[cyan adder]

What y’all think about this ?

[old swallow]

keyboard 👍

[harsh dove]

Why do your two bottom rows sit so high?

Looks like you need to push the PCB down more imo

The angle of the keys not being flush with the angle of the case bothers me lol

[cyan adder]

because ive put alot of polyfill inside actually

xd

also i have 1 layer of tape mod 1 layer of keeptape and another 1 layer of tape mod

u know

as long as the usb port align correctly im hjappy

[harsh dove]

Ah okay okay

Still bothers me but at least I have context now lol

[untold wigeon]

do u guys think kilmat would be better in a spacebar than masking or moleskin tape?

not sure if i should get kilmat for it or js use tape

[bronze grove]

Are we still talking about keyboards or backyard gardening using military grade agents?

[untold wigeon]

underground pipe maintenance materials

what would this benefit? & would it interfere w tempest or band aid?

[bronze grove]

You tell me.

The reason explains where and why to use them.

[untold wigeon]

no clue why to use them

dunno wym “the reason”

k doesnt look like itll interfere with anything

[harsh dove]

Maybe some people want military-grade keyboards lol

[untold wigeon]

still dunno what it does tho

[untold wigeon]

😭 what im saying

[weary tree]

Where

[bronze grove]

They dampen the friction between plate and case.

[halcyon obsidian]

mod specs

[untold wigeon]

what if you were to gummy o ring mod

would it even be necessary?

[untold wigeon]

hm resulting in what?

[harsh dove]

No because you’re not using screws with gummy mount

[untold wigeon]

ok ok

[harsh dove]

Those silicone pads almost act as a burger mount but not exactly the same

Compared to using silicone rings

[untold wigeon]

yhh

ok

thanks for help

[harsh dove]

Np

[untold wigeon]

uh can u use those & burger mount

or no

same time

[harsh dove]

Yeah I did

[untold wigeon]

alrr

[harsh dove]

Not using it anymore but I did at the time

[untold wigeon]

yhh

[untold wigeon]

yo cam

i got like 2 more questions before im confident i correctly have every thing im gonna do to the kb written down

can u help answer em

[harsh dove]

Possibly

[untold wigeon]

ok

so first 1, i want to do gummy o ring inside my tofu redux case, problem is im ordering wooting module, and that doesnt work unless i change stabs

i know nothing about stabs and am hoping i can get the wooting stabs like from sm where

online, maybe they are a popular stab alrdy used and its purchasable

i have to change the stabs to either clip in, or plate mount, i dont know the difference thought and am not sure if it would change the sound

[harsh dove]

If you’re getting the module and trying to do gummy o ring mounting then you just need to get PCB clip-ins instead of screw-ins.

And it’s really only for the backspace and spacebar

[untold wigeon]

hmm ok

[harsh dove]

Most people get TX AP stabs but theres a few good options

[untold wigeon]

the only difference is sound?

[harsh dove]

Mmh no, mainly housing thickness , stem tightness and stabilizer rattle

[untold wigeon]

yh, js as complicated as i thought😭

ok ok can u tell me js like a couple pros and cons of each, ill decide from that

cuz i dont wanna ask a thousand questions

[untold wigeon]

why clips ins over plate mount? any reason or no not rlly?

[harsh dove]

Clip ins are so you can gummy mount , otherwise screw ins are typically better

[untold wigeon]

ok ok

[onyx pier]

if you really want to gummy o ring it you can buy the tx clip in stabs 1.6

[untold wigeon]

whats the diff between what u said (tx ap) and what he said (tx)?

[spice herald]

yo the frankswitch raptors are absolutely what I was missing from my wooting honestly - I’m a long time cherry mx black enjoyer because of how hard I type and these switches are reeeeaaaaally doing it for me right now

[untold wigeon]

😭 nice bro

congrats

what u do just change the stem??

[spice herald]

yep - hand lubed them and changed the stem with the lekker stem

[untold wigeon]

okok

so tx ap or like what

any other competition

rlly?

[harsh dove]

Mmh not that I know off the top of my head personally

[untold wigeon]

as a similar (some ppl may prefer) option

okok

so what stabs are wooting using?

is it even known or like jus their own

[loud zephyr]

they're made by Porsche

[harsh dove]

As far as I know it’s just their own but a lot of people compare to them Durocks V2’s stabs

[untold wigeon]

tkl & tu

what do i buy

[harsh dove]

As for the module, nobody really knows yet but it’s said that the screw in stabs on the module are good

[untold wigeon]

no clue difference

[polar girder]

Thicc

[weary tree]

just get the ap tx

its better

[harsh dove]

For plate mount you want tx ap tkl base kit

[untold wigeon]

tx ap much better?

[harsh dove]

For clips in or screw ins you want 1.6

[harsh dove]

From what I’ve heard yeah slightly

[glacial wind]

eh stabs are stabs

[harsh dove]

Pretty much tbh

Not gonna gain a huge difference

[glacial wind]

you don't really gain much from changing stabs unless you have a particular random issue with a stab since you can usually tune any stab to be solid

[weary tree]

mine are ticking and would def benefit from changing

[harsh dove]

Yeah exactly

[untold wigeon]

idk if i should do clip ins or plate mount idk diff

[harsh dove]

Just tune your stabs and you’re fine

[glacial wind]

if your stabs are ticking just throw in some lube/balance

[harsh dove]

Well if you want gummy mount do clip ins

[weary tree]

i tried to balance

[harsh dove]

But you can’t do plate mount or clips in on the same PCB

[weary tree]

im not good at it

[harsh dove]

It’s one or the other depending on the PCB

[glacial wind]

well unless the balance is way off you shouldn't even really need to balance

[untold wigeon]

alr

[glacial wind]

usually just a syringe and a little bit of the right lube is more than enough

[harsh dove]

Yeah shouldn’t need to balance unless you got some cheap stabs I feel like lol

Or a bad batch

[glacial wind]

that fixes ticking for almost everyone

[untold wigeon]

alrr

[untold wigeon]

yhh

so do i change all stabs or just back soace and esc, cuz u said thats all that like blocks gummy mount

right

[glacial wind]

honestly if you have nothing wrong with your stabs don't even change them

[untold wigeon]

need to gummy mount

[weary tree]

for module

[harsh dove]

He’s asking in regards to the module for doing gummy mount

[untold wigeon]

yh

[glacial wind]

aren't the module ones just standard screw ins?

[harsh dove]

And if you’re just doing gummy mount then yeah just replace the backspace and spacebar stabs with clip ins @untold wigeon

[weary tree]

you cant do gummy mount with screw ins

[harsh dove]

Rest can stay as screw ins

[glacial wind]

wait I thought he had his wooting already

[untold wigeon]

yh but im changing to clip ins

[harsh dove]

No

He’s waiting on module

[glacial wind]

what has he been tuning then with his space bar issues and such

a different board?

[harsh dove]

Current board?

Idk

[untold wigeon]

but tx ap is “slightly better” why not change all

right??

[glacial wind]

it's not

[weary tree]

cuz screw ins are better

[glacial wind]

stabs are stabs. Once they're tuned they're all fine

[untold wigeon]

better for what

[glacial wind]

screw ins vs clip ins is debatable

neither is 'better'

[untold wigeon]

what are pros and cons

i act need to know

[harsh dove]

Honestly the only thing with TX AP vs other stabs that I noticed is the wires are a lot tighter in the stem aka less wiggle

So like you don’t need to do holee mod on tx ap for example

[glacial wind]

clip in is a little harder to mess up because they don't go in one tightness

[harsh dove]

Cause it’s so tight

[untold wigeon]

ohhh

[cinder merlin]

Yea

[untold wigeon]

ok thats good

[glacial wind]

but screw in is just as good if you get good screw ins

there's no 'better'

[harsh dove]

Right

[cinder merlin]

I haven’t done holee on tx ap since the spacing is so small anyway

[glacial wind]

i have both screw ins and clip ins in my other keyboards, once they're in then I wouldn't even know which is which

[untold wigeon]

alr but whats the difference

[glacial wind]

one has a clip you push in

[untold wigeon]

between clip & screw i act dunno

[glacial wind]

one has a screw

[cinder merlin]

One you screw in, the other u clip in xD

[untold wigeon]

obviously

[glacial wind]

that's literally it

[untold wigeon]

im saying whats the pros and cons for them

[glacial wind]

they both perform well if both are good

there isn't a pro or con

[untold wigeon]

id assume so

[glacial wind]

they're both doing the exact same thing.

[cinder merlin]

One takes less@time I suppose xD

[untold wigeon]

then why are screw typically preferred

[cinder merlin]

U done need to screw

[glacial wind]

they aren't

[untold wigeon]

i heard so

alr

[glacial wind]

you heard wrong

[untold wigeon]

alr

[glacial wind]

both types are popular

[untold wigeon]

need to do smth hold on

[cinder merlin]

Ppl like the screw in because they tend to say tighter vs plate mount

[weary tree]

cant pop ins pop out when pulling keycaps out?

[glacial wind]

never had that happen

i have tx ap in one board and screw ins in another

[harsh dove]

Never had that happen either

[cinder merlin]

I think ppl compare plate mount vs screw in not screw in vs clip in

[untold wigeon]

so @harsh dove just change backspace & escape to clip ins or change all to clip ins?

[harsh dove]

Yeah it’s mainly a comparison between plate mount and PCB mounted stabs

[glacial wind]

yeah plate vs screw in/clip in is a different matter because plate mount isn't great

[harsh dove]

Escape doesn’t have a stab lol

But yeah backspace and spacebar

[cinder merlin]

I feel like a good plate mount stab works pretty well too is that true?

I never tried a screw in

[glacial wind]

not as good as pcb mount

[cinder merlin]

Ic

[harsh dove]

Yeah PCB mount is better overall

Less wiggle

[cinder merlin]

Ah ok

[glacial wind]

if anything unless you actually have some issue going on with your stabs I wouldn't touch it if you are new to keyboard stuff because almost all the issues that happen are when people mess up their stab install

[cinder merlin]

I’ve been using the TX AP and they feel great still

Plate mount *

[harsh dove]

Yeah

And wooting stock stabs are good I think people just wanna mod to feel better about it lol

[glacial wind]

if you want to see for yourself join the meletrix discord and scroll through their chat channel, it's literally 10932789213 stab issue questions per day

[cinder merlin]

XD

[glacial wind]

always because people tightened them wrong, or didn't install them level or didn't push them in fully etc

[harsh dove]

Lmao yeah I try not to mess with my stabs too much

With stabs , less is more tbh

[glacial wind]

wooting actually smart for doing pre installed stabs in the module because it saves them a lot of headache doing customer service for people messing with stabs later

[harsh dove]

Yep

[cinder merlin]

Pretty happy with my board atm, only switches have not been changed

Getting raptors to try tho

[harsh dove]

I know I can’t wait to get home

Get my raptors today

[weary tree]

im gonna wait till the second raptors comeout

see how it sounds in comparison

[cinder merlin]

I want the clear housing

[harsh dove]

Apparently there’s no difference

Besides clear housing

[cinder merlin]

But I also want to try these ones

Just to see if I actually like them

[weary tree]

might be slight material change

idk

[glacial wind]

well we don't know yet if geon will change anything else. He said he has a plan to try improve stem wobble even more

didn't elaborate though

[harsh dove]

From what I’ve heard and seen there isn’t but never know

[harsh dove]

Gotcha

That’s good

[cinder merlin]

In house switch tap mode xD

Tape*

[weary tree]

will def get a set of raptors next year tho

those thing too good

[harsh dove]

I like the red clear plastic tbh

[dapper vault]

can you tape mod the two he?

[cinder merlin]

I like it aesthetic wise, but I don’t like that it affects the rgb

[harsh dove]

Right yeah

[glacial wind]

i'll have to buy another set if I move mine to geon's board when it comes out, then i'll need to get more for the wooting tkl/75 whenever it's delivered. But we don't even know if there might be new switches or other stuff by then anyway

[weary tree]

raptors plus the wooting spring pack

would be soo good

already ordered them cerakeys

[glacial wind]

there's those new gateron he switches too

but who knows if they fixed wobble on those

[weary tree]

yeah my hopes on gateron products arent that high

[harsh dove]

Some company is gonna make a switch tape mod kit if it gets more popular lol

[halcyon obsidian]

doesn't stem swapping fix that issue?

[glacial wind]

well ideally you don't need to tape mod at all, which is what it is for all the good switches nowadays in custom keyboard land

[glacial wind]

i don't like the stem swap. Makes the keys heavier feel

[harsh dove]

You mean for the raptors right?

At least in terms of he switches

[glacial wind]

I mean in general for switches

tape mod was more common in the past but you don't need to do it anymore on good non he switches. So he switches just need to catch up to that standard

[halcyon obsidian]

I wonder why

[glacial wind]

too tight. It causes friction as you bottom out

[harsh dove]

This is what I meant , my bad. I was going to say it seems that HE switches need to catch up in terms of the stem wobble compared to other good switches

[glacial wind]

honestly if you don't mind a higher force feeling switch nothing wrong with the stem swap mod

just that you don't get your lighter press feel anymore

[halcyon obsidian]

higher force as is in like 60-70 or?

[glacial wind]

yeah as in probably feels like 65-70 bottom out

[halcyon obsidian]

ah

[harsh dove]

Yeah I don’t plan on stem swapping

[halcyon obsidian]

I don't mind that

[glacial wind]

even with the lighter springs the raptors with stem swap feel harder to push down, but they do have basically no stem wobble

[weary tree]

is it consistent tho? or some part light and some heavy

[harsh dove]

Do stock raptors have any wobble?

[glacial wind]

it's consistent, you feel it more as you bottom out

[glacial wind]

yeah a little, but not as bad as lekkers

[harsh dove]

Gotcha, thank you

[halcyon obsidian]

I use like a 62g switch so

[weary tree]

i like heavy switches for typing

but not for gaming

[glacial wind]

if lekkers are a 0 and top end custom keyboard switches are a 10 for tight stem wobble, then stock raptors are like a 5

[harsh dove]

Okay

So basically a 2x improvement over the Lekkers

[halcyon obsidian]

I need more opinions on raptor/lekker stem

[harsh dove]

I’m going to run raptor stems personally

[glacial wind]

i mean if you don't mind using slightly heavier feel then go for it, it's not bad

[harsh dove]

Just hand lube them and call it a day

[glacial wind]

you can always swap them back if you don't like it, took me about an hour

[harsh dove]

Did you ever try spring swap too or no?

And I think I asked already but did you notice a difference in length for springs?

[untold wigeon]

didnt mean to type that, i was thinking of the word escape

[glacial wind]

nah didn't bother since the raptor springs were already lighter, didn't really want to combine it to be even heavier with my L60 springs

[untold wigeon]

what i meant to say ^

[untold wigeon]

alrr

[devout torrent]

man I have some tx plate stabs

but been lazy to swap em in

[harsh dove]

Got it thanks

[harsh dove]

Takes like 2 minutes lol

Pop off like 6 keys

Pull out some switches

Replace stabs

Put it back together

[glacial wind]

honestly if both are plate mount i don't even see any reason to swap em

[halcyon obsidian]

it would be interesting to see it with the lekker 45 spring

[glacial wind]

i'd swap stabs if I was going from plate to pcb mount somehow but plate to plate is eh

[untold wigeon]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CJ4RFVMW/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A114N70IXBU62B&psc=1

basically L30s

[weary tree]

i need heavier springs

for cerakeys

especially for the spacebar

[devout torrent]

wooting is coming out with spring packs

[untold wigeon]

yh

[unkempt crystal]

any1 has link to cheap 60% keyboard case for lwoointg like on aliexpress

[untold wigeon]

base, 1.6 for spacebar & backspace right

[agile grove]

why not use the stock case?

[devout torrent]

like a metal case?

[harsh dove]

Okay quick questions, you are buying the module correct?

[untold wigeon]

yes

[harsh dove]

Not the regular wooting60he?

[untold wigeon]

module, tofu redux, wanna gummy o ring

[unkempt crystal]

no

travel case

mb

typed that wrong

[agile grove]

just buy the wooting travel case

its cheap

[harsh dove]

Okay, then yes you want clip ins if you plan on gummy mount. Base kit, 1.6mm PCB, and I believe you want the 60/85 size not TKL

@untold wigeon

[agile grove]

well, not super cheap but it works with kb and is high quality

[untold wigeon]

60/85 size?

[agile grove]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-travel-case-60

[untold wigeon]

https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-stabilizers-rev-4?variant=40406837592129

[harsh dove]

Yeah I remember there being sizes

[untold wigeon]

is this 60/85 i dont see any sizing options

[harsh dove]

I might be thinkin of sumn else

[untold wigeon]

maybe

[untold wigeon]

these r clip ins right

[agile grove]

yes

[untold wigeon]

js verifying

[harsh dove]

These should be fine

[untold wigeon]

alrr

[harsh dove]

But honestly

The module stabs are supposed to be good so

I wouldn’t really buy these

Unless you just want that aesthetic

[untold wigeon]

only buying these for gummy mod

[agile grove]

yeah but they want to gummy o-ring mount

[harsh dove]

True yeah duh lol

My b

[untold wigeon]

i dont need them??? thought screw ins wouldnt work with gummy mod

oh lmaoo

[harsh dove]

I kinda spaced that part that you were gummy mounting lmao

[untold wigeon]

lmao

[harsh dove]

Like I knew you were but forgot for a sec

Haha

[untold wigeon]

thx for help man ❤️

[harsh dove]

Yeah no problem

[untold wigeon]

ohh

oh 2nd question

[agile grove]

however they're currently sold out

[untold wigeon]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

this is the 2nd one now

[agile grove]

so you'll need to wait

[untold wigeon]

its so short trust

LMFAO

do u think kilmat would be better in a spacebar than masking or moleskin tape?

or no

[harsh dove]

I just used a piece of 1mm poron foam in mine

Tirade recommended some museum putty as well which is also good

Was like $4 on Amazon

[untold wigeon]

hm what do u think would be best

[harsh dove]

I’m sure moleskin would work good too

[untold wigeon]

cuz one of em is i havent tried any tho

so idk tbh

[harsh dove]

I’d just try what you have on hand and see how you feel

[untold wigeon]

yhh

[untold wigeon]

alrr

[agile grove]

is it possible to make raptors thocky?

[harsh dove]

I can make anything thocc

[untold wigeon]

isnt just as simple as do thocky mods

and choose thocky materials

[silk token]

@molten breach (DEU) Do you have any idea why this wouldn't be working? I measured the resistance from the solder points to the JST on the other end and it works fine. Shield and ground are also connected to each other in the device as you said. It just doesn't seem to be working.

@molten breach (DEU) The wooting cord is recognized by this cheap USB tested I got. Doesn't see mine for some reason.

[gaunt linden]

My god switch tape mod is so annoying to do

It took me almost the whole night lol

[molten breach]

@silk token I should already informed you that just wirering it up don't work. I guess there is no voltage present on Vbus, or?

Because if my assumption is correct and there is no voltage then you forgot to wirering up the CC pins as I already told you.

The Wooting isn't just a regular cable, it also contains some resistores for the CC pings to connect that to groudn I guess but I forgot.

And the value of these are very important.

From the looks these are missing on your daughterboard.

[austere creek]

i mean it does have a resistor on the back side

who knows if thats correctly attached though

[molten breach]

Huh? There is just R1 and that is not populated.

[austere creek]

i swear it looks populated but id trust your opinion if you saw r1 marked

if its unpopulated then its even more reasons it wont work though

[silk token]

Thanks for your quick reply. What are the cc pins?

Is that the R1?

[molten breach]

These are using to identify the cable orientation and what the if there is an e-marker chip present. The e-marker will tell the device what the cable is capable of.

[halcyon obsidian]

Is wootings estimates on shipping usually pretty accurate?

[silk token]

Seems like using a custom cable is gonna be a non-starter...

[molten breach]

Looks unpopulated to me:

[austere creek]

ah i couldnt zoom in that far

[silk token]

Is that the 2 pads to the left of the R1?

[molten breach]

You need to open the soure file, then you can zoom in as you want.

[austere creek]

i tried

[silk token]

Anyway, thanks for your help. back to the drawing board

[molten breach]

Also a single resistor would not be enough. You need independent ones for each CC pin. So because there is just one and because these aren't exposed I can already tell that this connector isn't good / useful.

It should work when a USB C to A cable is used, if the rest is ok. But a C to C cable would not work because the host would not even know that a cable is connected.

While the plug of the cable is universal and you can flip the connector as you want there is still a specific way of how the wires are routed in the cable. So both, the device and the host needs to figure out in which orientation the cable is connected.

So there is CC1 and CC2 on the connector but on the cable there is only one CC wired up through the entire cable. The other is for the e-marker.

[heady terrace]

how do i install the gummy o ring?

i have a klippe and no idea how to push this pcb down

[quiet bay]

I push the usb side in first

And then gradually push in the o ring and make sure it doesnt pop out

[molten breach]

@silk token This maybe helps: https://community.silabs.com/s/article/what-s-the-role-of-cc-pin-in-type-c-solution?language=en_US

Sadly they don't seem to mention the needed value for Rd.

Also have a read here: #🤖│community_dev message

[stray tiger]

Start from the bottom middle and push the ring in/down and out to the edges

[heady terrace]

the ring sticks out a lot on the left and ride sides

bc theres a stand off for the pc plate

does that matter or?

[stray tiger]

Even the aluminum plates have this. Its from the stabilizers. Since these are plate mounted stabs, it doesnt stick out enough to cause a big issue but might take a little bit of effort. Which o-ring are you using?

[heady terrace]

@stray tiger

[stray tiger]

Is that an ISO board?

[heady terrace]

no it’s ansi

[stray tiger]

Yes that looks normal

[heady terrace]

o okay, just really hard to get in the case then LOL

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/TotSEWmSxoQ

[stray stump]

Someone can recommend me some keycaps French/japannese in Azerty

Or a website who it’s not too expensive

[bronze grove]

Those two...COMBINED?

[stray stump]

Yup

[bronze grove]

I highly doubt you'll find a single set outside of placing a custom order for a set or joining a group buy with options.

[stray stump]

I only found dual language qwerty x Japon

[bronze grove]

Finding azerty in the first place is rare.

[stray stump]

And 0 Azerty x japan

Im French

[heady terrace]

trying my best to get the bottom in now

i got the rest of the sides

[stray stump]

So we use azerty 😂

[stray tiger]

You can use a credit card or plastic shim if you need a little pressure but remember if its too hard to get it itll be too hard to get out 🙂

[wind karma]

hi i’m new to keyboard moddin g 😼

[stray tiger]

Welcome

[wind karma]

is it possible to mod a wooting to sound “marbly” and “creamy”

[wind karma]

helloo

[stray tiger]

Anything is possible if youre willing to put in the work. Lots of good information here https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[cinder merlin]

not necessarily

L60s will do

[wind karma]

i went through the entire thing to make sure i didn't miss anything

has a 60HE been PE foam modded? the jelly epoch sounding thingy

cause that's the sound profile i like

[weary tree]

Really? Ive seen some complaints and some people using plastic spacebar because of the problem

[heady terrace]

does this look flush enough?

[stray tiger]

Looks great!

[cinder merlin]

U just lift the spacebar slightly up and ur good

i don't push mine down fully when attaching (not when using, using i press down normally). I bounces back up fine

if u push the key fully down when attaching it, it does get stuck

[stray tiger]

The one I'm using right now is also o-ring mounted and is about the same height

[cinder merlin]

I think it's more of a case problem

than a spring problem

[heady terrace]

ahhh okay thank u

[marble shuttle]

is that silve fjell ?

now i want to buy silver frog mini 😦

looks really good with white keycaps and artisan

[stray tiger]

Negative. It's a mostly unknown limited run of a different case. But like the Fjell does have a brass insert, its just lower profile with less oif an angle

[marble shuttle]

or maybe 5 degree that discounted case

i should buyt that instead of tofu60 black v1

[marble shuttle]

i really like those under gloving weights

[stray tiger]

Next level keyboard modding

[polar girder]

lol wtffff

Nice

[marble shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-cut-cut-it-enough-gif-11404313674557424924

[fluid ravine]

IM HOMEEEE

[fluid ravine]

Hi pops :D

[fluid ravine]

need that car once i get a driver's license

[thorny canopy]

to those that modded, should i wait a week to get my pc plate then start modding or should i start modding now and then switch out the pc plates when it arrives, time-wise

first time modding and i got no idea how long a kb would take to lube and all that other stuff

[harsh dove]

Just start modding and swap plates when it gets there @thorny canopy

Gonna take you a long time to lube etc

[harsh dove]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-raptor-scary-reptiles-gif-12677950

[fluid ravine]

rawr

-raptors

[harsh dove]

Rawr indeed

[calm tusk]

can you do burger mount and oring or is it one or the other

[harsh dove]

One or the other

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/choose-wisely-pick-carefully-be-selective-select-wisely-pick-wisely-gif-15030259

[harsh dove]

With gummy mount you don’t use any screws at all

With burger you use silicon ring for all the case screws

Basically you’re either dampening the screws or not using any at all

[limpid crown]

Is my PCB sitting on the case too high ?

[fluid ravine]

what case is this

gh60 low profile?

im guessin

[limpid crown]

GH60 Anodizing Aluminium Case

Low profile yeah

[fluid ravine]

yeah its suppose to be like that

where the switches is exposed

[harsh dove]

Sitting a bit high for me personally but seems fine for LP case

[fluid ravine]

normal profile hides the switches

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[limpid crown]

I only have one layer of wooting foam in it

[harsh dove]

Nice

Seems good then

[limpid crown]

Since putting the two layers of the default foam made it to not fit

[fluid ravine]

yeah it looks correct since you tray mount

[limpid crown]

Thanks! 🙂

[fluid ravine]

no problemo 👍

[calm tusk]

yeah mines burger mounted rn i was just wondering if people did both

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, no, I’ve never heard of anyone doing both

[quiet bay]

there's not really any point in doing that

[calm tusk]

ye ye makes sense

[calm tusk]

my friend is asking if the wooting module comes with foam

that's what the "silicone/poron pad" thing is right

[harsh dove]

It shows on the website what comes in the box

[calm tusk]

yeah but is silicone poron pad the same as foam

[devout torrent]

No it’s 2 types

Poron is what it comes with

Like in a wooting as is new

PC plate just comes with another one

[sweet cedar]

the poron is the plate foam i believe

and the module also comes with case foam i think

but im not sure ab that

[devout torrent]

Silicone is also plate foam

[sweet cedar]

yea

there r 2 options for the plate “foam”

silicone and poron

[calm tusk]

word

thank you thank you

[gaunt linden]

How Can you tell if you overlube the switches ?

[fluid ravine]

while lubing the switches
if you notice theres like white glob of lube

then its a over lube

it should be a nice shiny coat

[quiet bay]

I purposely overlube my switches a tad bit

not too much tho or it’ll feel like crap

[gaunt linden]

Got it thank you!

Do yall think tx ap stabs need mods?

Holee mod or plumbers tape mod for example?

[fluid ravine]

just lube

[fluid ravine]

nah

just need lube and grease

and some tuning
it will turn out perfect

i dont have holee mod or anything like that

just lube and grease wire

i still need to tune mine but whole keeb is still in work for smth

[pale aspen]

21kb.com

[cinder merlin]

yea theres not a lot of space to holee mod

[marble shuttle]

Nice,

[harsh dove]

My Waptors

Hand lubed, nothing else

[marble shuttle]

More clear

Sound

[pale aspen]

what plate?

[crimson sky]

nice

[cyan adder]

What are those keycaps

[crimson sky]

nicepbt noel hiragana

could also be the gmk version tho

[cyan adder]

So what do u prefer, raptors hand lubed or lekkers switche tape modded + hand Lubed ?

[loud zephyr]

Raptors x Lek Stem x L50 Springs. That's the good stuff your dealer hides from you

[neon nexus]

I love those keycaps

[upbeat hornet]

Do you know of a 3 meter or longer USB cable with which you can use all the wooting functions without any problems?

[bronze grove]

No such thing exists.

Due to the nature of USB cables and electricity.

[upbeat hornet]

its just because of the voltage?

[bronze grove]

Your best bet is to use a powered USB hub.

[upbeat hornet]

good idea thanks

[quiet bay]

Reveal on december 29!? 👀

[normal schooner]

yes yes will you be there 👀

[quiet bay]

Of course..new product im interested in

[harsh dove]

Ima use em today and let you know

[harsh dove]

Thanks

[neon nexus]

Which ones are those btw

[harsh dove]

GMK Dualshot

[neon nexus]

thx

I love that aesthetic

[harsh dove]

Tyty

[neon nexus]

I always fall out of my chair when I see keycap prices tho

[harsh dove]

Haha yeah

[halcyon obsidian]

did you try the stem swap?

[harsh dove]

Nah

Says it feels a tad too tight and I don’t want that personally

I might try it out just to have my own opinion on it but not something I see myself doing permanently

[halcyon obsidian]

Yeah I was hoping to get your opinion because some people have just said it sounds and feels just better than stock raptors

[harsh dove]

Ah okay, yeah I’ll probably try it this weekend

Takes about an hour to do

[halcyon obsidian]

yeah and fyi it was pykino who said he thought it was an overall improvement

[harsh dove]

Can’t wait for that WootingTKLHE reveal lol

[quiet bay]

take my money 💸

[harsh dove]

Do you have raptors ?

[quiet bay]

no

Lekker60s

[harsh dove]

Okay nvm

Yeah

[quiet bay]

y

[harsh dove]

When Sindria said “pykino” I thought they meant you and just typed your name wrong but it is actually someone else

[quiet bay]

lmao

would be hilarious if they said my name that way

never got pykino before 🤣

[halcyon obsidian]

oh yeah nah someone else

[halcyon obsidian]

it also seems like Bingus perfers t he franken switch

[halcyon obsidian]

this filmed?

[spice herald]

Not filmed - the polycarb films I have currently make the pitch higher

[halcyon obsidian]

ah

I like THOCC

[polar girder]

A lot of people call me Big Sly