🔧│keyboard_modding

[stable kindle]

same here thats what im leaning towards

[fluid ravine]

TenZ is the pro player yes
Kaemi is a marshal demon content creator
Kyedae is TenZ's girlfriend

[lilac island]

i dont game much now i mainly use keyvboard for coding and typing

I used to play CS and a bit of valorant and COD but stopped playing for a while now

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravineim guessing you play val then?

[fluid ravine]

Bro im in computer science and im just bored out of my mind

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[stable kindle]

@lilac islandsameeee here man, but i just started getting back into cs2 and i forgot everything

[lilac island]

haha ! im just self taught, what language you learning ?

[stable kindle]

now just blaming my keyboard whenever i die

[lilac island]

ahh yeah CS2 is out now !! might have to try it

[stable kindle]

dont bring up my past

[lilac island]

haha !

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravineso what switches do you prefer for val?

[lilac island]

im doing more data science so i work with python and SQL

[fluid ravine]

oh it doesnt really matter
the only thing that matters at this point is how heavy you want your springs to be

[lilac island]

yeah try them out see which one you like best

[fluid ravine]

personally im more on the heavy sided so i keep that 60's

[stable kindle]

i thought thats what the difference was between the lekker 60 and 45s and the gators

[fluid ravine]

but i prefer it a little bit heavier like 65 then that would be perfect to me

[stable kindle]

the difference in the spring stiffness

[fluid ravine]

nah just spring weights

[stable kindle]

or am i wrong

[fluid ravine]

l60's are 60 grams
l45's are 45 grams

[weary tree]

box stem

not ks20

[stable kindle]

what are the springs waiting for

[fluid ravine]

?

[stable kindle]

^

[lilac island]

kinda hoping for some heavier switches in the future as lekker 60 still doesn't seem to cut it for me !

[weary tree]

but on same page there is this so idk

[stable kindle]

lol just messing with you

[fluid ravine]

oh mb i wasnt using my brain to spell

[weary tree]

would be good if it was

[fluid ravine]

xD

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravine so different weights on the spring wouldnt that translate to how light or heavy you have to press to depress the switch?

[weary tree]

that means we can buy their springs

[fluid ravine]

yeah yeah

[lilac island]

will the springs fit lekker switches though as stem is fatter

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravineso you swapped out the lekker 65 springs with one thats is 60g?

[loud zephyr]

Yeah, I love gaming on 45's but typing just feels so anemic; I dunno if there's an inbetween but 70's could be it

[weary tree]

well if they are ks20 they should fit

[stable kindle]

what about sound wise? which one has more thoccccc?

[weary tree]

its the same as l60

[harsh dove]

Alumaze will finally be here Friday so I can hopefully have a good weekend after a shitty week

[stable kindle]

lighter or heavier? i feel like heavier would have more thocc?

[lilac island]

yeah 70s would be nice haha or even 80 or am i just savage !

[loud zephyr]

[fluid ravine]

theres no 65 gram springs

[stable kindle]

i can only imagine how thicc this mans finger tendons are

[fluid ravine]

im using the stock l60's

[exotic plaza]

Just watches some reviews and the switches definitely are box stem

On the a75

[fluid ravine]

im just saying if there was a 65 i would love it to perfection

[stable kindle]

@fluid ravineo i see, im an idiot

[lilac island]

are these hall effect switches ?

[exotic plaza]

I wonder who makes them and if any of the parts are compatible with lekkers

[stable kindle]

gotcha

[fluid ravine]

springs does not translate into keyboard sound profile

[weary tree]

i like heavy srpings for typing

[loud zephyr]

Bro, 69 is going to revolutionize the switch industry

[fluid ravine]

or technically the lekkers themselves

[exotic plaza]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

HAHA

[stable kindle]

so its just a matter of time someone comes out with all sorts of different springsd for the lekker?

[lilac island]

please link switches if they are heavier than the l60s !!!!

i need !!

xD

[fluid ravine]

ong :<

[stable kindle]

i did see that wooting sold springs originally, why the hell did they pull it?

[stable kindle]

interesting, thanks for that info

[fluid ravine]

kinda weird how my akko v3 yellow creams feels a bit heavier than my l60's although they're 50 grams

[lilac island]

which switches are these ?

[fluid ravine]

no problemo

[stable kindle]

can you use ceramic keycaps on the lekkers?

[exotic plaza]

I’m talking about the switches on the drunkdeer a75, I don’t think there’s any way to buy them on their own and I have no idea if they are compatible with wooting

[lilac island]

oh dang i see ok

[fluid ravine]

yes but the spacebar maybe a bit too heavy for it to go back up

[exotic plaza]

Maybe I’ll buy it and test it 👀

[lilac island]

yeah haha let us know how it is !

[stable kindle]

im guessing then even the other keys are gonna be slightly heavier? maybe make it feel like a lighter switch?

[fluid ravine]

i dont have experience with cerakeys but im trying to remember what i read but um i think they do make your keys feel a bit lighter when using them

hang on lemme get somebody

@neat path

CERAKEY SERVICE PLEASE

[weary tree]

raesha hall effect switches

its what they are called

[fluid ravine]

@teal quiver YOU TOO IF YOU'RE ONLINE

[weary tree]

not ks20

dont think the springs fit

and the magnet is slightly off center

[teal quiver]

Hi yes what are your ceraquestions

[loud zephyr]

I hope papa Geon comes with the goods with his Raptor switches, noice colours. HE not yet released

[teal quiver]

Spacebar returns perfectly acceptably on L45s

[loud zephyr]

https://geon.works/products/raptor-switch?variant=43613359440035

[fluid ravine]

@stable kindle

[neat path]

yes ceramics makes your switch feels a bit lighter like 5g less for alphas. No problem with L60 or KS20 50g, i use my L60 stock spring on the heavy spacebar and it feels perfect

[teal quiver]

For the L60 switches I can definitely second that, though I haven't had a 1:1 comparison of cerakeys vs other keycaps on the L45s

[neat path]

Rebecca recommands 60g for the spacebar (even if it works with lighter springs) and they provide Kailh box yellow 80g iirc but it's too heavy for my taste

[exotic plaza]

Ok yeah I highly doubt these “raesha” switches are compatible in any way

[teal quiver]

I do think the 60g spacebar recommendation has some merit, my spacebar does feel noticeably lighter than other keys. That's to my taste but YMMV; I also have my spacebar actuation set higher than the rest of my keyboard so I've already been after a more responsive spacebar lol.

One quirk I've noticed with the cerakeys, with L60s and L45s (though more pronounced on the latter), is that the spacebar will tend to actuate when the keyboard is set down, if it's not being set down quite gently. Given that my build is heavy af that's hard to do. Doesn't really matter, doesn't affect real use, but just kind of an interesting aside.

[lilac island]

The cerakeys actually sound pretty sick !

[lilac island]

The guy in the 1hr video on the website uses a 85g spring on his Spacebar

[untold wigeon]

40a might be what im settling on

[fluid ravine]

go for it!

between 30 and 50
so why not

[untold wigeon]

for the little feets that come with the alumaze 60, do they elevate the keyboard higher?

[fluid ravine]

2 sets of feets
2 or 3 different typing angles

[untold wigeon]

alr thanks

[surreal fossil]

Tint60 kit is compatible. Just built it tonight. No modding required but I used the whole kit which came with foam, probably have to source out the foam yourself. https://www.iterkeebs.com/products/tint60-custom-mechanical-keyboard-kit?variant=46552270569751

[fluid ravine]

holy that is mad cheap

[fluid ravine]

@bronze grove

anuda one to zeh list

[mental hemlock]

I love you.

[fluid ravine]

I love you too.

[mental hemlock]

How are you?

[fluid ravine]

I'm doing alright
Currently working on my project atm.
What about you?

[mental hemlock]

What's your project? I'm actually going to start one soon lol, shot a couple of videos tonight and I'm going to try to splice them together

[fluid ravine]

Business or Service Plan

i didnt recieve any instructions 💀 teacher just gave a sheet of paper was like "Here you go"

didnt even give us due date

[mental hemlock]

What the heck is even that

lol

[fluid ravine]

man idfk
just think of a business or service idea or some shi and make a advertisment of it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

thats what my friends said

[mental hemlock]

keyboard modding

lol

[fluid ravine]

oh

what is what then

[mental hemlock]

Make an ad for keyboard modding

[fluid ravine]

that'd be cool

[mental hemlock]

fuck it

try it

[fluid ravine]

haha totally
lemme just grab somebody's wooting and grab all my modding materials and bring it to school and mod the living hell out of it for 12 hours

[mental hemlock]

that would be dope ngl

you can do a before and after

[fluid ravine]

fax

[fluid ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/someone-typing-comment-facebook-loading-gif-23545458

[pine idol]

Anyone know a clean black and red 60% keycap set?

[fluid ravine]

budget?

[pine idol]

Not really

[fluid ravine]

gmk?

is gmk ok for you?

[pine idol]

Yeah that’s fine

[fluid ravine]

is this fine?

https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set?searchId=a6baa32537f2f8bfc9f07319acf592f2&defaultSelectionIds=980131

new link

https://cannonkeys.com/products/preorder-gmk-red-dragon

idk im just posting what i see

anyways i gtg now

gn

[pine idol]

Gn thank you

[gaunt linden]

Is GMK supposed to be budget?

[mental hemlock]

no lol

[surreal linden]

i spent over $200 on my gmk lol

[gaunt linden]

I thought tenz was saying it was budget lol

[surreal linden]

i mean

if $200+ is cheap for you

then its budget ig lol

[gaunt linden]

Naaaa lol

Does someone know any good set with japanesse legends? BOW

[pale aspen]

21kb

get GMK for gaming keyboard is bad idea

shine will be ugly

also if you dont mind XDA , try to look on ali express

[surreal linden]

i mean you could use gmk for gaming but wear gloves while using it lol

cause im pretty sure the shine is from the oil on your fingers

[mental hemlock]

gloves? fuck that lol

[surreal linden]

lmao

[untold wigeon]

man finally relubed all my switches following the actual lekker video

what a difference

[surreal linden]

how long did it take you?

it took me 12 hours 💀

[untold wigeon]

it took me a little over 3 hours

[surreal linden]

how fast were you going?

[untold wigeon]

i just opened them up and added the extra lube to the top of the housing and the bottom housing

[surreal linden]

wait you didnt lube the springs?

or stem?

[untold wigeon]

i had already hand lubed the other parts like the rail spring etc

[surreal linden]

o i see

ig it took me 12 hours cause i had to do the foam and build everything

and had no clue what i was doing too lol

[untold wigeon]

ahh i see

At this rate I'm just waiting for my case my gummy oring and my cerakeyd

And I think it's done

[gaunt linden]

GMK doesnt have pbt or it also shines after some use?

[surreal linden]

yea it doesnt have pbt

i think it shines after some use

[gaunt linden]

I did not know that Thank you

[surreal linden]

i just got mine like 3 days ago

so im not sure lol

[gaunt linden]

And did you get some shine already?

[surreal linden]

no

its perfectly fine actually

like brand new

[gaunt linden]

Niceeee

[surreal linden]

i think i still got the picture somewhere in here

lemme find it

[untold wigeon]

Yes it's abs but I don't think youll get shine for a while

[surreal linden]

yea i used abs before for my old keyboard

it took like 2 years for a shine

[untold wigeon]

It takes some serious use, I've been fps gaming on my sa and they only started to shine after 2 years

[surreal linden]

aye same times lol

[untold wigeon]

Yea around that time lmao

Mostly my wasd e r and q

[surreal linden]

yea

[untold wigeon]

And one side of my space bar

And shift

[surreal linden]

for me its mostly z and x

cause of osu lol

oh yea heres my keyboard

[untold wigeon]

Now with Val I feel like half of my keys started shining

[surreal linden]

tbh though the shine isnt too bad

like if you dont have a flashlight shining onto it

then you wont see it

[untold wigeon]

I have a before and after I lubed the bottom and top of the switch housing

And wow

[surreal linden]

o yea its huge lol

[gaunt linden]

What really? So it must be better than pbt right? Since abs has better Quality?

[untold wigeon]

Don't mind my terrible phone audio

[surreal linden]

well it depends actually

i basically have never used a pbt for a long time

so idk how much better pbt is

but i prefer the abs feeling better than pbt

and it sounds better in my opinion

[surreal linden]

yooo thats pretty nice

my sounds really similar too

[surreal linden]

wait is that gmk too?

[untold wigeon]

No I believe these are enjoybpt

[surreal linden]

o

i see

[gaunt linden]

I guess the shine isn’t that noticeable in other colores that isn’t black right

[untold wigeon]

Yea I had bought my set of gmk striker for 99 off of novelkeys

[gaunt linden]

Colours*

[untold wigeon]

But never used them so I sold

[surreal linden]

yea mines white and i can barely see it

[gaunt linden]

I might buy some from GMK then lol in white

[surreal linden]

nice

[untold wigeon]

I went for cerakeyd

[surreal linden]

which one you thinking of?

[untold wigeon]

But I've heard the v1s has some issues

So I'm very scared

[surreal linden]

v1 gmk?

whats that?

o nvm

i read it wrong lol

[untold wigeon]

V1 cerakeys

[surreal linden]

o

[untold wigeon]

You're good

[surreal linden]

very glossy

[untold wigeon]

Yea they are ceramic

Very nice sound profile to them

[surreal linden]

ye

[untold wigeon]

But they are heavier

[surreal linden]

but i heard they are pretty heavy right?

[surreal linden]

yea

so l45 lekker might not work with it

[untold wigeon]

I stuck with l60 that came with the keyboard

[surreal linden]

ah i see

[untold wigeon]

It should work but I may have to get a special 80 spring

If anything

[surreal linden]

80g springs?

[loud zephyr]

Not mine but the shine looks nice, just gotta use it enough for the shine to be uniform

[surreal linden]

ig its better for typing ig

[surreal linden]

yea

can you even get rid of the shine?

[loud zephyr]

no idea

[surreal linden]

im looking online and it seems you can

[mental hemlock]

turn your ordinary ABS keycaps into ceramic keycaps with this one simple trick

[surreal linden]

A is restored

and the W isnt

[loud zephyr]

shiny GMK and a few relegendables, good times

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059046240903508050/1172061327095771136/DSC_0099.png?ex=655ef22c&is=654c7d2c&hm=0ea31b7c37a52f0e8cc6ed4aa7ab5f0e912cf30272ac2217b0dfc431c454d366&

[surreal linden]

the bottom looks brand new wth

[loud zephyr]

those keycaps were once white or beige and the owner drove a car like the Flintstones

[surreal linden]

lol

[untold wigeon]

Man was smoking near his keyboard

[surreal linden]

i mean

unless man just got those keycaps off the 1980s pc

ok wait these are whiter than the ones above

[static root]

Anyone can help with all of these? xD

[loud zephyr]

That tkl is one of best designs ever imo, check out that concave

[static root]

I have no idea where to get the burger mount mod materials

[surreal linden]

everything was better back then

[surreal linden]

search up 0.1mm oring

[surreal linden]

for the spring i went and bought the l45 lekkers

cause idk if the other springs will be compatitble with the lekkers

[surreal linden]

tape mod is just painters tape

[static root]

where to get that

[surreal linden]

the wooting website

[static root]

I don't see it

[surreal linden]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-linear45

[static root]

I thought those were just the switches

[surreal linden]

well they got 45g springs

so thats what i got

cause i didnt want to risk it

[loud zephyr]

These are the o-rings you need for burger

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Silicone-Rings-Diameter-Gasket/dp/B082STPT58/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1M042SUKVSJ97&keywords=uxcell%2BSilicone%2BO-Rings%2C%2B4.5mm%2BOD%2B1.5mm%2BID%2B1.5mm&qid=1699512357&sprefix=uxcell%2Bsilicone%2Bo-rings%2C%2B4.5mm%2Bod%2B1.5mm%2Bid%2B1.5mm%2Caps%2C264&sr=8-3&th=1

[surreal linden]

but i think some other people here have different springs

[untold wigeon]

Or you join the gummy oring cult

[surreal linden]

yea thats probably the best lol

[untold wigeon]

Burger mount is only for people who enjoy suffering

[static root]

The heck is that

[surreal linden]

i mean you can burger mount and gummy oring it

[static root]

sorry I'm new to this but thank you guys so much

[surreal linden]

i think tenz has a video on it

hold on

[untold wigeon]

It's a huge ass oring that goes around the PCB

It fits between the plate and the PCB

[static root]

what the hell is pcb

[untold wigeon]

The "motherboard" of the keyboard

That you put your switched and plate on

[static root]

I'm guessing o-rings are small for individual keys and gummy o rings suppose to be big for the whole keyboard?

[surreal linden]

here

[surreal linden]

gummy o ring

[untold wigeon]

Yea the oring for the burger mount are for the screw holes

And the gummy oring is a huge one that goes around the whole keyboard itself

[surreal linden]

ye

so the pcb touches the case and stuff

friction

[surreal linden]

i have the tofu60 redux

for the case

its really good

[static root]

which one is better?

in your guys opinion

[surreal linden]

gummy

[loud zephyr]

Wooting's Youtube channel has a lot of tutorials if ya wanna mod

[surreal linden]

gummy most impactful

[static root]

is it good for osu as well?

[surreal linden]

wdym?

the wooting?

or the mod?

[static root]

Which one should i buy?

[static root]

both

I'm gonna mod my wooting so

[untold wigeon]

I mean you can do both but you don't screw in with the gummy oring if I'm not mistaken

[loud zephyr]

uxcell Silicone O-Rings, 4.5mm OD 1.5mm ID 1.5mm Width

[mental hemlock]

gummy mounting is the second most useful, besides lubing

[surreal linden]

i mean lighter springs like the lekker l45 can be better for fatigue in streams

but other mods is just for sounds

i have the l45 rn

[static root]

how many should I get

[untold wigeon]

I want to try l45s but I don't want to relube and tape a whole new batch of switches

[surreal linden]

and i feel like its better than the l60

[untold wigeon]

Don't say that

[surreal linden]

you gotta feel my pain

[untold wigeon]

No no

I don't want to hear it

I don't want to be tempted

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-yell-cant-hear-gif-5494211

[loud zephyr]

At least 10 pieces

[surreal linden]

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07WP2GRN2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2830GKD8L76AP&th=1

this what i bought for gummy o ring

its amazon for canada so find it for your country

[untold wigeon]

Let's go Canada Amazon

My kind of Amazon

[loud zephyr]

bro's head is gonna explode before he even pulls the keyboard apart

[surreal linden]

the best kind of amazon

[static root]

I'm already exploded

[static root]

is 30 pieces enough?

should I do the whole keyboard with o rings?

except for the space bar

[loud zephyr]

[untold wigeon]

Yea you'll be good with 30 I'd that's the min you can get

No no the orings aren't for the switches

[mental hemlock]

Lube+film+switch tape mod+o ring mod+switch tripods

[surreal linden]

yea lol

[static root]

the hell does o rings do

[surreal linden]

i think theres only like 6 screws

[static root]

I already forgot

[loud zephyr]

Don't use o-rings for keycaps, the burger mod is for the mounting screws

[untold wigeon]

Bruh I saw the tripod switch pads and I was going to get them but I had just the regular square ones

So I went for those

[static root]

so what does the O rings for?

[surreal linden]

search up burger mount for o ring

wooting has a video on it

[static root]

I think I'm getting mixed up

so gummy mounting doesn't need o rings?

do I need o rings/

orings = burger mount

[surreal linden]

no gummy mount is a big o ring

where the buger mount is a small o ring

[static root]

O

ok that make sense

[surreal linden]

gummy goes around your pcb

[static root]

you guys talk about two different mountings

[surreal linden]

and the burger goes around the screws

[static root]

so should I buy orings for burger mount or the oring for gummy?

[surreal linden]

gummy

gummy better from what i heard

[loud zephyr]

Just do these: lube, pc plate and case swap. If ya wanna do more then do o-rings, burger rings, cheetoh rings later

[surreal linden]

yea

just see how it sounds first

[static root]

the hell is cheetoh rings

[loud zephyr]

[surreal linden]

meme

[static root]

bro im new

yall can't bully the freshmen on this :(

anyways

sure

[loud zephyr]

I was hoping you wouldn't notice the Cheetoh's lol. It's a packet of chips

[static root]

oh, how do I grease the damn stabilizers

[loud zephyr]

sundried cheetoh's

[surreal linden]

dielectric grease

[static root]

like how

I have the grease

do I just take apart the stablizers

or

[surreal linden]

check wootings video

on lubing switches

[static root]

ah ok ok

[surreal linden]

they have stabilizers in there

[static root]

Alright thanks

oh and @surreal linden which springs should I get the 45 or 50 one

[loud zephyr]

And don't forget the anime keycaps you listed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1136776430257188974/81O5CCWllaS._AC_SL1500_.jpg?ex=65568d0d&is=6544180d&hm=47010b82c4c238f1bebf005b72fbe6d615dba51cb3c502bfa55f81ee9237f8c6&

[surreal linden]

i dont think they have a l50

45g is ligher

so better for osu

the l60 comes with stock wooting though

so you can test it out and see if you like that

[static root]

oh I meant 45

sorry

xD

[gaunt linden]

Hey yall i just wanted to ask, is the pcb supposed to not touch the foam right ?

[static root]

how many should i get?

[cinder merlin]

u have cerakeys coming, no need to be tempted

[surreal linden]

well if you want your all keyboard covered with l45 switches

then you can do 70 pack

since keyboard has like 62 keys

but if you only want your z and x keys l45

then you can get 12 pack

[untold wigeon]

wait who is buying this

[surreal linden]

lmaooooo

[untold wigeon]

hentai is free, you dont need keycaps for it

[loud zephyr]

Loppies made a list of mods and wants anime keycaps

[surreal linden]

its a good remainder

[untold wigeon]

ye i dont think he should get his dick hard mid match when he is looking down at this keyboard

i think that will give him a competitive disadvantage

[loud zephyr]

[surreal linden]

its gonna be like highschool dxd

he about to release his true poteintal

[cinder merlin]

pcb mounted with the screws, dont think it matters if it touches it

as long as mounted correctly

[loud zephyr]

Is that what the gummy o-ring is for, to be worn like Borat's swimsuit?

[untold wigeon]

😭

stop this

[surreal linden]

ngl all the anime keycaps are kinda mid

[static root]

what kind of tape should I use again?

[untold wigeon]

WOB is king

[loud zephyr]

and they cost a lot, well the Asus one I saw was like over 200

[surreal linden]

painters tape

like the paper one

you can ripe it easily

im pretty sure you will have that tape at home

[cinder merlin]

i had to buy it xD

barely use it at all

[surreal linden]

o lol

i needed it for school

[cinder merlin]

put three layers + burger mount today

[true patrol]

the tofu redux works quite well for the wooting, finally got it delivered. I will say if you get it, move the stock wooting foam over to it, the super thin "foam" that comes with it leaves a LOT to be desired

[surreal linden]

agreed

i also put three layers

[untold wigeon]

start with 1

sometimes more is worse

[cinder merlin]

yea I tried it putting it back on

[surreal linden]

yea half of the top foam though

[cinder merlin]

it felt about the same

[true patrol]

oh I just used the whole thing

[loud zephyr]

does the stock foam cover the entire bottom?

[surreal linden]

o what

[untold wigeon]

in the original case 1 and 4 layers sounded the deepest

[surreal linden]

like stock tofu foam

and wooting?

[true patrol]

no

[surreal linden]

how did that fit?

[true patrol]

just the wooting

[surreal linden]

o i see

i did that

[cinder merlin]

im using alumaze

[true patrol]

and I didn't get the brass weight, so there is a little room for the foam

[surreal linden]

ah i see

[untold wigeon]

im waiting for mine

[surreal linden]

i tried only wooting foam

and its not as good as the half wooting and stock tofu

[untold wigeon]

the alumaze comes with its own foam? @cinder merlin

[cinder merlin]

yes

[surreal linden]

you can test it out if you want to though

[untold wigeon]

good

[cinder merlin]

thinner foam i think

[untold wigeon]

did u use it

[cinder merlin]

yes

using it rn

[true patrol]

honestly I wish more boards had room for it, in my saka68 I used some very thick and heavy car speaker sorbothane called boom mat. Sounds absolutely amazing

[untold wigeon]

nice

[loud zephyr]

I prefer cereal over foam, see

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1138233351849914538/Screenshot_2023-08-08_081056.png

[cinder merlin]

xD

[untold wigeon]

what the fuck

[surreal linden]

ayoo

[loud zephyr]

[true patrol]

you ain't from delaware if you ain't had this

[cinder merlin]

i mean wooting posted that themselves

[untold wigeon]

huh?!

[surreal linden]

oh

bruh i thought he did that lol

[untold wigeon]

who made this

[cinder merlin]

wooting has like a series

[loud zephyr]

yep, Wooting engineers would know what works best

[untold wigeon]

i hope its not Sander

[cinder merlin]

what u can do with ur wooting kb

they planted like grass in it

as well

[true patrol]

not having frosted mini wheats

unacceptable

[cinder merlin]

pcb removed ofc

[untold wigeon]

pcb stays on

idc

[cinder merlin]

kekw

[loud zephyr]

and this is how you lube your spacebar with peanut butter

[surreal linden]

how much do you think stock wooting keycaps cost?

wait wth

they $53?

[loud zephyr]

pretty good for a full kit

[surreal linden]

yea ig

i think i bought my old keycaps for $40

and it was really good

[true patrol]

compared to higher end keycaps, $53 for 108 shinethrough doubleshots of this quality level is pretty on the mark. They aren't ePBT/GMK/CRP level of "high quality", and the market of shinethrough keycaps has been pretty saturated this last year

[surreal linden]

yea

my gmk keycaps shine through if i set my brightness to 100%

[true patrol]

lol

[surreal linden]

wait do yall keep your brightness 100%?

cause i swear i can see the keyboard more than my monitor if i do that

[loud zephyr]

I don't use rgb much these days but I used to run it around 60% with stock caps

[surreal linden]

i see

i use a little bit of rgb

otherwise it doesnt match my background

[true patrol]

I got this board knowing I was going to put non shinethrough caps on it and would be using it for games
Personally I don't like rgb in the first place so the first thing I did was enable tachyon and disable all lights

[surreal linden]

tbh idk what tachyon mode really does

its already at 2ms no?

[true patrol]

changes polling from 500hz to 1000hz

[surreal linden]

wait wth

lemme try

can you feel the difference?

[true patrol]

for 99% of people (me included), no

[surreal linden]

o bruh

well is there a point?

[true patrol]

it's just for the reliability of knowing it's working as fast as it can
inputs go through as fast as they can, even if you can't feel the difference

[surreal linden]

oh

i feel like it will kill the keyboard faster in the long run though

since it has to use more energy

[true patrol]

it doesn't use more power, because when it's on you can't use rgb effects (only static lights) and max brightness is limited

[surreal linden]

yea but compare it to static lights no tachyon

[true patrol]

and technically with no moving parts that actually make contact with each other, this board should be able to last forever, save for maybe replacing the switches one day if the springs wear down or the housings get worn out

[surreal linden]

ah yea your right

[true patrol]

for me the only "downsides" to having it on are disabling things I wanted disabled in the first place, so it's an easy pick. But realistically, no human is going to truly feel the difference and if anyone says they can that isn't a professional gamer (talking top 1% of pros), they're probably full of shit

[surreal linden]

yea even pros though

no way you can feel a 1ms difference

especially when human reactions are like 150ms

[true patrol]

v true, just leaving room for error in my statement in case there is some freak of nature out there who can 😆

[surreal linden]

if 1ms saves you then thats just rng

[untold wigeon]

I think having any sort of ms difference helps

Once we react technically something with a faster response time should help

[surreal linden]

yea

[untold wigeon]

Its super small but all these micro differences should add up

Without the copiem orc

[surreal linden]

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

yall wanna try this too?

wtf

[kind kite]

Hello, I've got a question, I've recently bought GATERON KS-20 switches but I hate the orange top housing, Is it possible to swap the housing with the Lekker 60?

Im kinda new to this keyboard modding stuff, I dont really know who to ask about this

[surreal linden]

i think its possible

they look really similar

[true patrol]

It's also the case of frame update time vs input time. at 144hz, you have 6.9ms between each frame. So if your input comes in 1ms later, you COULD end up with another ~7ms before you see the input happen because it has to wait for the next frame.

And our subconscious reaction isn't always the same as visual reaction time:

Tests with Air force pilots have shown, that they could identify the plane on a flashed picture that was flashed only for 1/220th of a second. That is identifying. So it's pretty safe to say, that recognizing, that SOME light was there is possible with 1/300th of a second.

[kind kite]

Any idea would it affect the performance?

[surreal linden]

i dont think the housing would affect performance

only the spring

[kind kite]

Alright, thank you so much @surreal linden I really appreciate it.

[surreal linden]

np

\

wait im actually kinda insane

[true patrol]

To my knowledge all of the MX style magnetic and non-magnetic gaterons (lekkers are made by them too) use the same dimensions for top housing

it'll likely affect sound if anything, but not feel or performance

[surreal linden]

yea they look indentical

[kind kite]

Alright, I'll try swapping out the top housing, hopefully it wouldnt sound bad. Thank you

[surreal linden]

also i heard that other switches might cause some input delays

like their magnetics or something

[true patrol]

if they have the magnets at a different height or size than the lekkers, the keyboard may read them differently

but this can likely be compensated for by adjusting the actuation

[surreal linden]

yea i think they do

so there might be a performance issue from just that

tbh i think its 0.1mm difference

[true patrol]

gateron makes the KS-20 and the Lekker so they're likely identical within tolerance in terms of placement/size on the magnet

[surreal linden]

ah i see

then you should be fine then

[kind kite]

The reason why I bought it is because it comes in prelubed and the spring is to my liking.

Thank you 2

[surreal linden]

o

what spring do they use?

[kind kite]

I dont really know the details of it but it feels a little lighter compared to Lekker 60

but not as light as lekker 45

[surreal linden]

ah i see

so between 45-60 then

[kind kite]

Yeah

[surreal linden]

nice

[true patrol]

KS20 bottoms out at 50g force, so your feeling is correct

[kind kite]

This is just based on my feeling though, I dont know much about it

[surreal linden]

dang some really sensitive hands

they keycaps also play a huge role in actuation point

so the weight of it

[true patrol]

Hoping soon we can see some more custom springs getting made for hall effect switches, it'll take a bit since they're wider than standard mech switch springs, plus they need to be non-magnetic

[surreal linden]

yea

i mean are spring typically magnetic?

i think most manufacturer made it so it isnt

otherwise thats just random additional manufactuering cost

[kind kite]

Yeah, Im hesitant of getting more Lekker 45 switches because I plan to change my keycaps to metal keycaps ( in hopes of better sounding )

[surreal linden]

ah i see

im using the l45 rn

[kind kite]

Do you like it so far? in terms of the spring

[surreal linden]

yea its really good

especially for speed based games

like osu

less finger fatigue lol

and i feel faster too

[true patrol]

yeah most mx-style switch springs are magnetic

[surreal linden]

ah i see

probably cause its easier to put together

[kind kite]

valid point

[real fern]

that corrupted one

[untold wigeon]

Holee mod my stabs at 3am

Hmmm

[true patrol]

post results if you do. when I find time to lube switches I've gotta do some stuff with the stabs as well

too used to clipped/lubed cherry stabs. the 60he's are quite great for a stock stab but not where I want them

[static root]

Looks like a mesh of hell and heaven themed

[gray bramble]

What is the best keyboard for Fortnite? And why? Price?where I can shop it?

[lunar sand]

there's "no best keyboard" for a game ... maybe for rythm games, hall effect keyboards are better.
Generally speaking hall effect keyboards are more reactive, meaning, they have quicker key presses and you can customize them to your liking and needs.
But with these, a normal mechanical switch, silver, can also give you great results for gaming.
Pre-travel needs to be short and the total travel should not be too long, so that your key-presses are as quick as possible.

But ... for that to happen, you also need to be quick and clean on your movements of course.
The keyboard will not make you a better player ... but if you already a good player, maybe hall effect gives you possibilities to play in a certain way that a normal switch can't.

[lilac island]

Morning Boys and Girls how are we today !

[lunar sand]

same old same old my friend ... work day ... luckly my work is at a computer and its raining cats and dogs outside 😄

[lilac island]

that right ! we are the lucky few xD

that looks nice man ! any chance of a sound test 🙂 ?

[untold wigeon]

link keycaps plz

[lilac island]

i see, they look like ceramic keycaps ?

nice looks pretty sick im on the market for a set of white keycaps at the moment, what profile is it ?

i was looking at MT3 and SA profiles so probs not up my ally but the looks are nice

[untold wigeon]

Doing great man hbu

I want to find out these certain type of key caps but I just can’t seem to find them

They are like squarish where the top is but smooth and round on the edges

#🔧│keyboard_modding message whatever key caps i saw here was the type I’ve been looking for

[polar girder]

Message deleted. No clue

[lilac island]

Yeah wonder why he deleted all messages

[polar girder]

Also VDA v2 is a thing I believe

[crimson sky]

my man josh just skipped DCS smh

[polar girder]

lol

Yeah I don’t know keycaps

Just googled some ish

[untold wigeon]

maybe ill find it through my search history

[lilac island]

I have it on my history on my pc I'll link it when I get back 👍

[untold wigeon]

tysm

this is it

im new to this keyboard modding stuff so i dont know anything other than lubing switches makes them sound good

idk what those keycap types are called

[mighty walrus]

Anyone know about the keyswitch tape mod? I heard it can reduce wobble in the keys, but I'm having a hard time finding resources on how to do it.

[dry trench]

https://spkeyboards.com/collections/granite-keycap-set

[untold wigeon]

sorry i just woke up so i explained it poorly, i meant that style of keycaps, not the brand since thats on the iamge

my bad

[dry trench]

These are the exact ones

Fair enough

[untold wigeon]

i think i found the style, it might be science keycaps

[cyan adder]

My wooting went from thocky to creamy now 😭😭😭😭

[untold wigeon]

what mods did you do? just lube or what

if thats just lube im ordering lube right now

[spice herald]

Definitely not just lube lol

[cyan adder]

it would have been too easy lol

@untold wigeon

[lilac island]

https://spkeyboards.com/collections/g20-glacier-keycap-sets

[untold wigeon]

okay the style is called SA tysm

wish i could cancel my old keycap order

[lilac island]

SA profile are the really tall keycaps

[untold wigeon]

oh

what profile is the wootings?

like the 60he default

[lilac island]

if its the one i linked above it G20 profile

Wooting is OEM

[lilac island]

Bigsly333 linked the profiles here

[untold wigeon]

life saver

[untold wigeon]

didnt even realize ty for the help though

prob will go for XDA

i think the smooth curves look amazing

[normal schooner]

but dont feel amazing

[untold wigeon]

ah fr?

[harsh dove]

lol yeah

[normal schooner]

adapting takes time i guess

[untold wigeon]

wdym dont feel amazing

[normal schooner]

if you used OEM your whole life

yeah..

[harsh dove]

Cause your finger doesn’t sit in the key rather sits on top of the key, idk how to explain it

lol

[untold wigeon]

ive used whatever keys are on the vulcan pro tkl

i didnt like them because they felt smooth and slippery if that makes sense?

just got my keycaps

[untold wigeon]

niceeee, ive always loved just a classic black style

im trying to go all black

just need a different desk and keyboard cable now

thats what i did for all my other keyboard but im trying something new with wootin

i see

i like unique looking stuff but with my main items i wanna keep it classic black

intrigued into buying the ultra light x whenever its in stock too

[untold wigeon]

novemer 27 is the 2nd batch

i want one too but damn their discord is conflicting me

no money for that yet D:

i feel that, better than the tenz pricing though

might need to sell some old things if i rlly want it that badly but its restocking forever so i can just wait a little

[patent cradle]

This is such a tempting mouse to pick up, but idk about at $190. Plus it would take a minute to get used to a full-size mouse again.

[stable kindle]

Day #31 of asking if the module is out

[cunning cove]

Why ask so many days instead of just waiting for announcement

[true patrol]

Yeah there is zero chance that a post in #📣│announcements won't be made when module is out

[floral vale]

Yeah sorry about the deleting. It's a profile called G20. And the keycap set is G20 Glacier.

[edgy thicket]

case?

[floral vale]

regular gh60 alu case ig

[gaunt linden]

Should i buy the tx ap stabs from divinikey or keebsforall?

Keebsforall shipping is more expensive cuz of shipping but has anyone used any of these websites?

[lilac island]

a lot of hype around the tx ap stabs here i would pressume they are good but yet to try them myself

[spice herald]

I just bought polyfill and new WQ polycarb switch films so we shall see how this goes… figured since I have to take the switches apart again I will throw more lube on them. These switches are thirsty as hell

[lilac island]

haha yeah ive lubed mine a few times now too ! lets us know how it all goes

[spice herald]

Not sure how the polyfill will work for the alumaze but I figured for 5 USD I’ll figure it out

[spice herald]

will do!

[loud zephyr]

Tx's are good but I'd just try to tune the stock stabs, they're actually very good. Anyone experience ticking or rattling can try this simple mod:

https://youtu.be/cQtOaAmbp60?t=4761

And also check how straight the stab wires are before doing any lubing, or the mod above

[lilac island]

true that! my spacebar stab sounds amazing but return key and right shift ticking like a boss! need to spend more time one them !

[loud zephyr]

cutout tolerance will vary from plate to plate, I had to tweak my spacebar and backspace, but yeah it's a handy mod

[gaunt linden]

Thank you!

[vernal shoal]

where do i put the foam that comes with the wooting

its quite thick and has 2 holes in

[crimson sky]

Post an image of it

[lilac island]

if you are putting this in to a new case like the redux you need to remove the half piece

[vernal shoal]

already have, it goes below the pcb right

[lilac island]

between the pcb and the case

[vernal shoal]

mhm, thanks, currently only using the thin bit of foam that comes with the redux

[lilac island]

yeah i dont think you can have them both in at the same time or it will push against the pcb

its one or the other

[vernal shoal]

yeah im swappng it out

[lilac island]

yeah give it a go i like the sound of the stock foam vs the redux foam

[vernal shoal]

its considerably thicker too

[lilac island]

yeah, depends on how you like it to feel and sound tbh

[marble shuttle]

Tofu redux foam is 👎

[stray tiger]

I've got a few sets of the new AP stabs and they seem pretty solid but have only used one set out of the 3 so I can't provide full feedback yet. I might try another set when the module arrives.

[untold wigeon]

at this point i just cant wait for my oring to arrive, now i gotta pick out a case.

[unkempt crystal]

i want to buy black coiled cable for my wooting 60he but the wooting one is too expesive for me, are there any good cheaper alternatives?

[lilac island]

the module will be pcb mount as oppose to plate mount right ?

[bronze grove]

Both, but comes with PCB installed.

[lilac island]

oh sick !

[velvet egret]

Welcome back Tirade. Hope you had a great time on vacay

[green pebble]

Anyone know of any switches with compatible top housings for the lekker switches? I want to make a bit of a frankenswitch with a nylon top since I can't stand how the PC top housing sounds.

The top housing looks to be a little bit different from your standard mechanical gateron switch.

[untold wigeon]

my keyboard sounds like popcorn popping

[stray tiger]

Just got back home. Little jet lagged but trying to catch up!

[undone musk]

After 5 hours i have finally reached an acceptable sound from the wooting 60 he in a tofu keyboard. What a pain. There was that pingy sound , and couldn't find the reason why. Was the cherry keycaps hitting the switch housing. Lost a little bit of lighting rotating the switches but the sound after it's much better. Waiting for mlv for dampening and should be complete.

[cyan adder]

mods?

[cyan adder]

@untold wigeon were close to each other boy

[fluid ravine]

Take your time big guy ❤️
Hope you had a good time

[cyan adder]

but ur more poppy than me

rip ive put xht bdz on my spacebar and its not thock anymore lol

its more high pitched wtf

[lilac island]

oh mines really thocky with XHT

[cyan adder]

mmmh

[lilac island]

try adding tape under the space bar

[cyan adder]

maybe its my foam insinde the spacebar

idk

i have foam

poron 1mm

wierd

but i rly like xht bdz, literally has killed all the rattle i got

its a very solid spacebar now

[lilac island]

maybe the stabs housing are loose on the plate ?

[cyan adder]

my only issue is sound

mmh

[lilac island]

yeah mine still rattle a bit but not the spacebar my return key mainly

[cyan adder]

nah it doesnt move

[lilac island]

the screw next to spacebar maybe thats too tight

or better yet i dont think you even need that screw

[cyan adder]

I have 0 screw it’s gummy o ring mounted xD

[lilac island]

oh lol

that looks solid to me mine has a bit of movement, maybe cos ive taken them off so many times now xD

[cyan adder]

maybe because its my only switch with 3 layers of switches tape ? others has 2

but it should be even more thockier

[fluid ravine]

What y’all talking abt

[cyan adder]

my spacebar

[lilac island]

ahh, i dont even have switch tape one my keys, does it make much difference ?

[fluid ravine]

What about it

[cyan adder]

ive just put xht bdz

it killed all the rattle yay

but its not thocky anymore

[fluid ravine]

Big

[lilac island]

any switch tape mod videos ?

[cyan adder]

all the keyboard is thock

exept spacebar

[lilac island]

i ned to give it a go

[fluid ravine]

@shell geode

[cyan adder]

yeah look at this

[fluid ravine]

Sorry I’m on my moms phone
I don’t got mobile data so

[cyan adder]

^

[shell geode]

Yeah it's on my post in Wootstations

[weary tree]

nah not to my knowledge

[fluid ravine]

OK I will find it

[lilac island]

ok thanks, if its makes such a diff i gotta give it a try !!

is it a lot of effort haha !! ?

[gaunt linden]

@quiet bay did a vid of it

[fluid ravine]

Nvm I can’t find it

OK I gtg now

[weary tree]

#1097648230176673872 message

[cyan adder]

well once u do 2 or 3 switches u got the trick just gotta reproduce it to all switches

[lilac island]

dang what was it called ill try find it

[lilac island]

ok, how is it done ?

[weary tree]

link above has a vid for it

[lilac island]

thanks !

[untold wigeon]

lubed switch with tape mod
switch pad
tape mode (3 layers)
band aid and holee mod

[lilac island]

what tape is used just normal painters tape i cant tell from the vid ?

[weary tree]

gentle paper tape

[cyan adder]

aaaah only diff with my is switch pads

[lilac island]

ahh i see will painters tape be too thick ?

[weary tree]

i think tenz used this too

[cyan adder]

ive noticed all you guys that have done the switch tape mod have all same sound im the only exeption and the only mod im missing is switch pad

did u noticed big changes using switches pads?

[weary tree]

i havent tried

[cyan adder]

well i will receive them by the end of the week so

i hope it will make me a more solid sound

[lilac island]

ill try 1 layer with painters tape see if it works

[untold wigeon]

oh sorry i forgot two things

pc plate and stock case

[cyan adder]

yeah we barely have same mods exept i dont get the switches pad yet

[cinder merlin]

what switch pads did u use?

[untold wigeon]

0.5 mm poron

i got them from kbdfans in like 2020 but i still think they have them

[cinder merlin]

yup looking at them now

them emphasize the mid freqs?

[untold wigeon]

well what i realized for me was that it reduced any ping that these lekker switches had

which is really nice

[cinder merlin]

ah icic

[fluid ravine]

Yes and it doesn't really "absorb" the sound it makes when having contact. But it still kinda does the job

Not bad
Better than stock
I tried it. It was my first time doing switch tape mod when i used masking tape

[lunar sand]

just got my FR4 plate ... i will test it and tell you how it goes... i know everyone said it would give me problems ... but i after contacting KBDFans they told me i would not ... so lets see 😄

[cyan adder]

ok so i just cut my extra spacebar foam to put it under my stabs on the pcb

working greqt

great

really dampen the sound

[surreal fossil]

Anyone with the original tofu case use o-rings? If so, can you tell me what size I can use?

[lunar sand]

go and grab it !!!

i was easy going with the quantity ... 😄 maybe they have 10 more jars 😄 mine were already shipped 😄

[cyan adder]

It’s fking cheap omg

10g for less than 10€

[lunar sand]

yes... its cool ... G-Lube is more or less the same, but as some others said, i guess g-lube is some rebranding of krytox ...

[harsh dove]

Cause its that China lube

[fluid ravine]

Damn Mansen...
I didn't know you like that..
Looking mad fine today 🤭

[fluid ravine]

g lube viscosity comparing to krytox is thinner

[lunar sand]

yeah, a little bit yes

[fluid ravine]

im pretty sure if you put them side by side you could barely tell the difference but for some you could really tell

[lunar sand]

i did a side by side comparison though ...

and the difference its not night and day

[fluid ravine]

lol

[lunar sand]

exaclty

😄

[fluid ravine]

😂

[lunar sand]

sorry was typing that exactly at the same time

lol 😄

[fluid ravine]

lol

[lunar sand]

i can notice a sligtht difference

but that's because its side by side

[fluid ravine]

i was gonna get g lube back then but i was like nah
if krytox is better than just get the better one ig

lol

[lunar sand]

the issue with krytox is availability ... i got a bunch of jars now

but for 3 or 4 months

i was having a hard time

finding stock

that's why i got the g-lube 😄

[fluid ravine]

huh!?

[lunar sand]

at least, in europe, there was a time

the stock was really low

but i mean, if you can get glube easily, you will be fine with it

[fluid ravine]

yeah

i bought my krytox from kinetic labs

[lunar sand]

right now back to using krytox 😄

[fluid ravine]

first ever

i got like 1ml left

[lunar sand]

yeah, but importing krytox

to europe is ... expensive

😄

[fluid ravine]

yeah..

bro i kinda wanna just start over my whole modding process

of my wooting

just take every single mod out

and start over

[lunar sand]

ahahaha

but why? you feel you wanna do something different?

[fluid ravine]

maybe

just a little

i feel like if i star it all over again
do it more precise, plan things
it could come out so much better and how I would like it to be

my wooting has REALLY gone through alot

i wish i was like my friend that bought me the wooting
he bought two for himself thinking that if he ever started modding it and broke something he would have the spare one

but he ended up not using the second one it at all nor has he tried to mod it

[lunar sand]

yeah... i mean, with what i learned on this one

i will get the module

since i have a spare case here

but just to tryout

actually, yesterday i was in doubt with the new keyboard that was released with hall effect

but, i decided to keep my initial idea

of getting the module

and do it slowly and wisely

ehehhe

then i will give this one to my kid

since he is a FPS lover 😄

[harsh dove]

I can see this being a good thing, time consuming but most likely worth it

I will probably feel this way at some point too but I’ve yet to finish modding my keyboard lol

[lunar sand]

i have the alumaze coming

[harsh dove]

Same bro

Get mine tomorrow

[lunar sand]

but i also have the Redux here

ehehe acrylic

so i'm going to do a close compare

[harsh dove]

I feel like too many people have a tofu redux so I don’t want one XD

[lunar sand]

yeah, i got a acrylic one because wanted to try out the acrylic

i still think acrylic > alum

😄

[harsh dove]

I’ve yet to hear what acrylic case sounds like I think

I heard a bamboo case recently

[lunar sand]

don't like the wood sound

[harsh dove]

lol yeah

[lunar sand]

but again, very personal

[harsh dove]

Definitely

How is acrylic?

[lunar sand]

can't say

received it today

did not have the time to start

[harsh dove]

Oh okay

[lunar sand]

swapping shitzu 😄

😄

[harsh dove]

What are you expecting as far as sound profile?

Deeper? Poppy?

[lunar sand]

i think it will be a little more deep

[harsh dove]

Definitely let me know once you build it

[lunar sand]

due to the sound resonance that alum is known for...

[harsh dove]

Yeah

[lunar sand]

but i can be wrong 😄

[harsh dove]

Does it feel premium still being acrylic?

[lunar sand]

its not a time consuming swap

but today was family time

[harsh dove]

Or do you think Alum feels more premium still?

[lunar sand]

and right now, i didn't have the patience to do it 😄

[harsh dove]

lol I feel that

[lunar sand]

Alum feels heavier of course

[harsh dove]

Right

[lunar sand]

only from that, you have that "premium" feel

[harsh dove]

Simply cause there’s weight to it, yeah

[lunar sand]

in terms of looks, 100% alum

[harsh dove]

Yeah I feel like most would feel that way too

[lunar sand]

I mean … yeah … 😂

[harsh dove]

I think that looks clean still

[lunar sand]

The alum instantly feels more premium

[harsh dove]

Bro got 3 mouse pads tf

Got a mousepad sandwich

[lunar sand]

lol yeah

don't ask

😄

[harsh dove]

Lmao

[lunar sand]

2 1200x900 and the other is a "normal" 500x500

it has a reason

because i was lazy

i had 1 ... then i bought a 2nd big one ... didn't want to take the one below so i just put it on top of the existing one

and ... some months ago i got the saturn pro

lol 😄

[harsh dove]

How does that feel lmao

[lunar sand]

still did not take the other mousepads

feels confy tbh

😄

[harsh dove]

Bros got like a mousepad pillow

[lunar sand]

yep 100% like that

lol 😄

its a pillow

😄

[harsh dove]

I wanna see a 4th on top

Preferably a hayate otsu