🔧│keyboard_modding

[late bay]

I cannot move my fingers that fast lol. (330 is just kind of insane to me)

[glossy mirage]

ah

i grind alot of speed

i dont have a wooting rn

got a custom keyb

that costs more than a wooting!

by 50%

XD

[late bay]

Is my keyboard a custom one if it is a Wooting 60HE that I've modded?

[glossy mirage]

mm

its modified

i wouldent call it a custom

[teal quiver]

Might depend how far into Keyboard of Theseus territory you've made it

[glossy mirage]

yeah

thats true

[late bay]

lol

[glossy mirage]

depends how far modded

[late bay]

Not that far tbh. Case, foam, keycaps. Thinking about doing a burger mount.

lol. I just couldn't decide between the RGB and the Stealth edition. Shipping is expensive anyway, so I got both.

[glossy mirage]

welp gn its

5am

lol

[median island]

Hi, does this fit the wooting 60he?
https://ymdkey.com/products/gh60-aluminum-case-60-poker2-pok3r-faceu-60-yd60mq-qmk-pcb-gk61-gk64?variant=39468430884925

[gentle silo]

Yes

[frank bear]

Does wooting do in-house design of the lekker switch? ||might be a trade secret but :)||I'm insanely curious of the technical specifications, limitations, and design considerations of the lekker switch. It's hall-effect sensor tech that's been around for a bit, but its price and ||percieved|| consistency is like nothing else on the end-consumer market.

[bronze grove]

We designed and developed it in cooperation with Gateron, who also makes the switches for us.

[frank bear]

This means no tech specs I assume? I'm getting a HE60 and was hoping to learn about the sensor itself to see if it would be feasable to create custom analog input methods that work with the HE60. idea is purely driven by how granular the hall-effect sensor resolution is, and if the sensor is simply capable of telling whether it is being pushed up/down or if it can determine absolute position. latter part is prolly more important.

[bronze grove]

The sensor and the switch are two very different things.

Can't help you with those.

[frank bear]

the switch is a sensor right?

I dont' quite understand

[bronze grove]

No.

There's a magnetic sensor on the PCB under each switch. The switch itself is - at its core a magnet on a stem with a spring.

As you push down on the switch, the sensor on the keyboard reads the distance and magnetic field, and uses that to determine how far down the switch is pressed. Like a wireless gaspedal if you will.

[frank bear]

Yep, I understand the premise of a Hall-effect sensor

one of your articles for testing, I think it was #8, mentioned testing latency vs resolution

[bronze grove]

To put it bluntly most of the hard work is on the PCB side with the sensor hardware and firmware interpretation. The switch design is all about feel and smoothness. There's nothing high tech in those as such. 🙂

[frank bear]

Yes, firmaware interpretation of sensor output. That is what I am asking about. I'm not talking about the actual switch feel or traditional kbd modding LOL curious about the sensor itself and what I could do with it within the he60 pcb

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-lower-decks-lds-pakled-helmet-gif-23161820

That is above my understanding and paygrade. I just do tech support and customer assistance 😄

[frank bear]

I can see how my original question is confusing, 3am over here and I was thinking about the lekker switch and I could like, use the existing 60he and simply attach a custom assembly to get a larger variety of input methods like a wheel or pedal or stepper. Would be fun to mess around and create funny setups with the 60he. Anyhow, is there anyone with the knowledge who would also happen to entertain terribly great ideas?

Actually, i'd be alot easier to just provide a switch resolution number, if the sensor output is being used in a "granular way," like a potentiometer or encoder would be

not much else I'd see myself needing to use

would be cool to know everything else but not necessary to what I want to do i guess.

[untold wigeon]

past the castle walls

[fickle vector]

@frank bear this almost sounds like some #🤖│community_dev type stuff

There could be folks there who are knowledgeable about this

[fluid ravine]

As much as I understand what y'all are talking about
My morning brain wants to say it's not big enough to process all of this

[merry vessel]

Is there a popular opinion on white keycaps? I just pre-ordered a black tofu 1 redux, wanting to pair that w some white caps.

Hopefully this is the right place to ask! Apologies in advance if not.

[stray tiger]

White looks great until your dust turns them orange.

[spark solstice]

Cheeto dust

[stray tiger]

Exactly

[stray tiger]

For my Friday weekend folks who hang out in this channel I've updated the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 with some 60HE Module and Alumaze60 Case information that hasn't been shared before. Better check it out before the admins wake up and remove it.

[civic knot]

Are there any pics yet for the 60he metal case coming out?

[obsidian dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984799440072220692/1127916859304452157/image.png

[stark quail]

Did anyone here switch the switches of the Wooting 60HE for the new L45 switches from Wooting? How did you find them?

[bronze grove]

They just started shipping out today. It will be at least a couple more business days before people can answer that. 🙂

[untold wigeon]

Why would they remove that(

[spark solstice]

I'm putting on the new gateron hall effect ones soon

[elder grail]

is that a random duck or is that duck your pet?

[austere creek]

as those are 5cN heavier than our L45 it doesnt really answer the question they had

[untold wigeon]

Crop line

[elder kayak]

When does this come out btw>

[gentle silo]

August/Sept.

[swift prism]

Has anyone had issues with their wooting spamming every key when you plug it in for the first time? All I have done was swapped out the case and keycaps.and it is spamming everything when i plug in the keyboard. I tried referencing the website, and was unable to find anything to fix it. I even went the extra mile to separate the PCB from the plate, and wasnt able to find any dirt or debris between the two. If there is anyone that can help id greatly appriciate it, I just got my 60he today, and was going to play valorant tonight

[shell geode]

Have you tried plugging it in and not pressing anything for 5 seconds? What you can also do is load onto Wootility and reset your board

[stray tiger]

Process of elimination. Take the PCB out of the case and plug it in and see if the problem continues

Also what Geralt said, you can try that first

[swift prism]

i have the keycaps off already so ill give all those a go and come back with the results... Thank you guys!

[trail forge]

might be tachyon mode?

[swift prism]

so upon doing this, i still had the issue with the PCB. I attempted to go into the wootility after this and then plug my PCB in again and attempt to reset the board, but I was unable to use my mouse when I plugged in the PCB. It also continued to open multiple programs on my PC, and resizing the windows so it was impossible to use regardless of my mouse working.

also to clairify, this is just the PCB i am plugging in, I took the switches out with the plate.

could it be an issue of plugging it in for the first time with a different cable?

[shell geode]

Bypass mentioned a possible one with Tachyon mode, is it currently off?

[swift prism]

are you able to check that physically on the board because i am completely unable to use my pc when i plug my wooting in

[shell geode]

You have to plug in your PCB and load up Wootility, perhaps trying a different cable on a different USB port?

[swift prism]

So I was able to fix the issue of spamming by using the cable that came with the wooting, but I stil have some studdering and double input. Tachyoin mode is disabled thought

[shell geode]

You haven't gotten to resetting yet, right?

[swift prism]

I have not no I am about to now.

[elder kayak]

Thank you!

[stray tiger]

You didnt mention you changed the cable or that would have been the first thing we suggested 🙂

[swift prism]

Yeah I usually use a coil cable. I really appriciate all the help guys. everything is working now!

[glossy mirage]

hall effect is becoming common huh

its becoming the new standard in keyboards

[wet spire]

hmm not yet becoming common, just more choices for the existing ones

[glossy mirage]

yea

im sure it affects the sound so wont be too common

considering keyboard building is very sound based

[normal schooner]

wooting membrane edition

[glossy mirage]

nononnonononon

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cutecat-cat-shocket-shock-gif-21969981

[normal schooner]

its a joke inb4 erik demotes me

[glossy mirage]

i just want my uwu badly

[glossy mirage]

lmao

i gotta wait til mid augaust

actually, what stage are we at? is the DVT stage nearly over?

i wonder how far away we are from MP

soon i hope

praying for that next uwu update video

[teal quiver]

They were saying in the #archived_wooting_uwu channel that it was delayed, think it was mentioned in a livestream

[glossy mirage]

oh, any reason?

[teal quiver]

None given at least yet, not shocked to see it though with them not being in mass production yet. Better to see 'em delayed to make sure they're at their best than rush them out. Hopefully not a big delay, though!

[glossy mirage]

ah

[mental hemlock]

to

[fluid ravine]

W DISCOUNT

YEA

MMMMMMM

YUMMY

[fluid ravine]

The hard work to type all that out

wait

what if i want to buy the pc plate alone 🤔

[stray tiger]

Believe it or not I had it all typed out about a month ago, just needed to change some details.

[fluid ravine]

:v

[mental hemlock]

Id like to know too

[stray tiger]

You can not buy the PC plate separately

[fluid ravine]

aw ok :(

[cunning karma]

Swanky

[fluid ravine]

60he starting to sound wonky :(

[fluid ravine]

are there any switch pads i should get from amazon

[shell geode]

@spare ledge @ebon quiver Epoxy mold turned out so much better! No problem with shrinkage and the keycap came out great as well! Unlike the concrete, the epoxy showed me the inconsistencies in my mold which I can proceed to improve on future molds. An epoxy PSD60 in either clear or other colors would be awesome! 👍

[mental hemlock]

sick

[sacred jay]

not too sure now lol

i thought i read somewhere that different material plates wont be released but PC will be released with the 60he module

[fervent osprey]

PC plate should be a part of the 60he module but apparently won’t be sold separately

[bronze grove]

👀

[marble shuttle]

300 euros lmao

[fair mountain]

Is it safe to use keebtape for wooting?

they say
"Do NOT apply onto electrostatic capacitive or similar uninterrupted and componentless flat circuit boards such as HHKB™, Realforce™, NovaTouch™, or Leopold™. Components that could overheat, such as microcontroller units, should not be covered by KEEBTAPE. "

Does it include wooting?

[gentle silo]

no that is another type of switch (topre) i dont think this should be an issue

but " Components that could overheat, such as microcontroller units, should not be covered by KEEBTAPE. "

and that definetly applys to the wooting

[marble shuttle]

@fair mountain go ahead with nora painters tape i was going to buy keeptape but then i gave up.

[versed pivot]

Just do it as the famous philosophist P. Hilton once said: If you are poor, just stop being poor.

[marble shuttle]

If you are homeless buy home💀

[fair mountain]

okay thank you

[fair mountain]

I was going to upgrade from painters tape. Have you stopped using keebtape due to heat generation issues?

[marble shuttle]

Pcb is getting hot while using after many hours it could have a issue i would stay normal painters tape

[fair mountain]

Thanks for the good info🙏

[marble shuttle]

👍

[untold wigeon]

342 euro wtf

it looks amazing but 342 euros

alright bezos

nah but for real your shit gonna look fire ngl

when i get my first job soon i'm probably gonna get into building my own custom keyboards

better late than never though

not to mention, my first build isn't gonna be top of the line either way haha

[fervent osprey]

Last piece for my modding preparation just arrived

[onyx pier]

Is there any recommended painters tape because i dont want the tape to be leaving any residue on my board

[marble shuttle]

how many gpl 105 oil drop should we use for 60 springs

[bronze grove]

You're not going to avoid that. Tape is at the end of the day glue on a strip of material.

I would recommend the blue strips of painters tape. They barely have any adhesive but have the same thickness as other types.

[onyx pier]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[untold grove]

whats the best ways to fix spacebar rattle? fill the key with some sort of foam? i feel like that would just dampen the sound and not actually help with rattle right?

[stray tiger]

You could save yourself some stress and skip tape altogether since its essentially pointless on the 60HEv1

[stray tiger]

Whats the rattle from? Spacebar? Switch or Stabilizer? Have you lubed everything?

[onyx pier]

Whats skip tape

[stray tiger]

No tape mod at all. Skip doing it - https://youtu.be/6poF-Z0ajhE

The steel plate being screwed into the PCB on the 60HE results in almost no resonance. The tape mod on the this board basically does nothing.

[marble shuttle]

even aliminum case ?

[stray tiger]

The case has nothing to do with the tape mod unless we arent talking about the same tape mod. Im referring to the one where you put tape on the bottom of your PCB

[marble shuttle]

putting behind the pcb ?

[stray tiger]

Watch the video I linked and tell me if thats the mod youre trying to do

[marble shuttle]

yeah it is

[stray tiger]

Then yeah, its not a mod that matters much for this board

[trail forge]

ive heard it's more noticeable in an aluminum frame

[stray tiger]

You heard that about the 60HE?

[trail forge]

cant remember where, but it was someone talking here that said it

in the default case, things like the tape mod sounded marginally better (if at all)

granted, this is just what ive had users tell me, I haven't personally tried it yet

(still waiting on my case)

[sand oasis]

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?t=436

there is quite a noticeable difference between no tape mod and tape mod sound test should be time stamped

but that is with an aluminium case

[slim summit]

The case didn't fit unless I mod the SpongeBob case to fit but the keycaps tho

[stiff dagger]

These keycap set lol

[normal schooner]

very

original

[fluid ravine]

Should I just take out mine
I feel like the tape mod is causing some of my screws to not screw in with the burger mount

[long moat]

I had some rattling from wires touching stabs. Lube and holee mode helped stop the rattle. I'd recommend watching this video: https://youtu.be/BxDLeyXZWeI

[round quiver]

for the Burger mount should I use new longer screws to mount the pcb?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

Ok so I took out the tape mod

And yes nearly nothing sounds different

[stray tiger]

If it improved the sound for you then keep it but I noticed absolutely no difference and from the videos it doesn't look like the wooting guys did either. That's not unexpected considering the screwed down steel plate but I also don't love poppy sounding key boards and tape mod helps make the board more poppy.

[fluid ravine]

the "poppy" you're talking about to the wooting
its actually sounds more like plastic

im actually glad i took it out

or im doing something wrong

[round quiver]

so m2x 6mm or m2x 7mm?

[fluid ravine]

eeeerrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm still havent got myself some films and switchpads

[round quiver]

Won't switchpads negatively effect the switches?

[stray tiger]

They "can" as anything that could make the travel distance variable, will cause issues. If you want switch pads, I'd suggest going for the thinnest you can find.

[austere creek]

depends on how thick they are

ya what tirade said

[stray tiger]

Go away Tony! Its the weekend I got this!

[austere creek]

🚪 🚶‍♂️

[stray tiger]

6mm is great and a trick I use is to just barely tighten them down (e.g. try not to compress the o-rings completely)

[fluid ravine]

depending on the size of it

but yes like what tirade said

its best to find the thinnest

0.5 is fine

im currently using PE foam mod (packing foam) and its like 0.5 or 0.6mm

no interference

[round quiver]

So right now I'm getting my wooting 60 HE in 2 weeks, I got a rosewood case, Rosewood keycaps, Durock v2 platemount stabs, the new L45 switches, lube, 0.5 PE switchpads, o-rings and m2x6mm screws for burger mount and Gaffer Tape for tape mod. Anything else I should look into getting for modding?

[fluid ravine]

films ig

[round quiver]

Any that you reccommend I saw that the switches are slightly different size to regular film doesn't work. Am i wrong?

[fluid ravine]

theres some 2 films that you can buy

wuque studio 0.15 PC films

Geonwork switch films

[round quiver]

Thank you for your assistance

[fluid ravine]

or you could 3d print them

[round quiver]

3d print switch film?

[fluid ravine]

yeah

[fluid ravine]

https://www.printables.com/model/521569-wooting-60he-lekker-switch-films-mechanical-keyboa

credit to Silent^

he made this

[fluid ravine]

np

[round quiver]

I don't have access to a 3d printer right now

but i will save this for later

[fluid ravine]

alr

lemme give you the links

[fluid ravine]

https://geon.works/products/switch-films?variant=43053442695331 (Geoworks)
https://cannonkeys.com/products/ws-switch-films?variant=40725520908399 or https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/switch-film?variant=41827026108586 (wuque)

if you're going to get the wuque
get the PC films

[serene oracle]

Which o-rings. The ones mentioned in the Reddit thread?

[round quiver]

Yes those orings, I saw that thread a while ago and my first burger mod with a bluetooth board was with the 4x1x1.5mm , but I just ordered a set of 5x1x2mm ones

I got both m2x6mm and m2x7mm black flathead phillips screws

[round quiver]

Orignally I wanted to use ceramic keycaps but I need an 80G spring for the spacebar, anyone know where I can find that 80G spring lol

[serene oracle]

Ok

[fluid ravine]

no where

[unkempt root]

any plans to release something like this for wooting keyboard?

[stray tiger]

Im going to big brain you and say maybe you can try using 2 normal springs. I have no idea if it will work but you could try it 🙂

[untold wigeon]

I’m going for these

The screws that come with the Tofu are so short I was stripping aluminum from the standoffs

So I’m getting longer screws

[coral gorge]

They hereee!!

[hallow creek]

First time lubing switches and modding. Does this sound good or do you think I over lubed? I also added three layers of tape mod and geon films

[untold wigeon]

were you going for thoc?

[hallow creek]

Yea

I don’t know how over lubed switches sound so not sure. Single presses seemed a little quiet unless that’s normal

[untold wigeon]

they sound good from the audio of the video (to me at least)

[brazen raven]

Im no professional but it sounds just a little bit too lubed, but take my opinion with a grain of salt

[hallow creek]

This is single presses

[brazen raven]

at the end of the day you did it and if you like it then thats a W

[hallow creek]

That’s what I’m thinking

[brazen raven]

I feel like theyre not making enough noise if that makes sense

But some keys sound great

[untold wigeon]

maybe the amount of lube was inconsistent on some keys?

[sacred jay]

when i overlube, i have an issue with the feel more so than the sound

[brazen raven]

possibly so

[hallow creek]

Yea I’m used to my other keyboard sound

I’m going to try removing the tape and see how that sounds

[brazen raven]

I like that sound a lot more

Love the spacebar btw

[serene oracle]

Sounds clacky

Idk

For ur old one

[brazen raven]

I actually like a bit of clack, personal preference of course

[hallow creek]

Ah I see the keys feel fine it’s just the sound I think

[serene oracle]

And the wooting sounds nice, though a little over lubed. (I’ve never lubed switches so idk)

[hallow creek]

Thank you

[hallow creek]

Me too lol

[brazen raven]

Ah look its all trial and error when I lube my lekkers ill probably do the same mistake

[serene oracle]

Me too

[coral gorge]

why, kb soounds beautiful

[gloomy raven]

60he switch replacement before and after

new switches feel good

when the aluminum case comes out i’ll probably do some actual mods to them but for now i am happy

[hallow creek]

So this is with the tape mod removed

[gloomy raven]

sounds worse imo

how does it feel though

[hallow creek]

Feel is good

[gloomy raven]

better than with tape or no difference

[hallow creek]

Feeling is the same it’s just sound

[gloomy raven]

ah ok

still a little new to kb modding. i always hear ppl talk about how great the tape mod is

[hallow creek]

Same here the last keyboard I got was premodded

[gloomy raven]

ive only had 3 keyboards before this and they were all prebuilt

cant see myself buying another keyboard ever again tbh i love my wooting even more than before

[fluid ravine]

honestly nearly no difference

did you just lubed the switches

[fluid ravine]

on the wooting its useless

burger mount does a better job

[gloomy raven]

def gonna try burger mount when the aluminum case drops. thats the only thing i really miss from my last keyboard

i must have sensitive hearing or something bc the two videos sounded different to me

[fluid ravine]

just know the first vid he did individual key presses

a full type test should do

if he did just lube the switches oh god
wait until it works in

after the lube works in im just scared

kind of

[gloomy raven]

ye i suppose the two videos arent apples to apples exactly. a full typing test is very much in order

[fluid ravine]

mhm

[gloomy raven]

i was gonna lube my new l45s but ive never lubed before so im prob gonna try it later

[fluid ravine]

you should start early in the day :D

just incase

[gloomy raven]

prob a good idea. im aware its a very time consuming process

[stray tiger]

Sounds fine to me and I agree that I cant hear a difference between tape and not taped. If the keys dont feel mushy then your lube job was fine

[gloomy raven]

are the lekker switches harder or easier to overlube than traditional switches

or are they about the same

[fluid ravine]

same

just follow the rule

[gloomy raven]

ah so the design doesnt change anything

[fluid ravine]

if you see the coating reflects then its good

but if you see the white of the lube

then you over lubed

[fluid ravine]

ye

lets just say
same parts
but differencet size

[gloomy raven]

i see

good advice

ill keep it in mind for later

[stray tiger]

Its pretty hard to overlube non-tactile switches honestly. You would have to goop the lube on. As Young said, try to get a nice even shine for best results but even if you have a little white you would be fine. Also, your key feel is going to change over a few days of typing as the lube settles.

Playing some Diablo 4 on my 60HE this weekend. It's pretty fun!

[gloomy raven]

is that a custom cablemod cable?

looks very nice as does the kb

[stray tiger]

Its a cable from a buddy of mine over at https://wiredinstore.com/ and thanks!

[gloomy raven]

oooh ive never heard of them! im actually in the market for a custom cable so im gonna check them out

enjoy your diablo my man

[untold wigeon]

Stupid rattle

DZ60

[stray tiger]

They arent cheap but he makes some ridiculously nice hand made cables. This translucent white one is fantastic as well if you dont like the braided cable look.

[untold wigeon]

I dislike this coiled one

It’s too shiny

[gloomy raven]

they seem to use very premium materials. i like what i see

[stray tiger]

I can see what you mean. Its got some bling

The keyboard sounds great though!

[gloomy raven]

looks good as well

love the blackout aesthetic

if i didnt like purple so much my setup would be emo paradise

[stray tiger]

I usually run that black cable with this 60HE

[gloomy raven]

yooooooo

what keycaps are those

[untold wigeon]

go emo

[gloomy raven]

valid

[stray tiger]

The first ones are GMK Hyperfuse Remix and the second ones are NicePBT Black on grey

[stray tiger]

Ohh its not a 60HE?

[untold wigeon]

Still lacking

[untold wigeon]

?

[gloomy raven]

i adore the gmk keycaps. i might need to pick up that set tbh

[stray tiger]

Dont fall down the rabbit hole. Those 60% keyboards start to multiply quickly

[untold wigeon]

They look pink lol

[gloomy raven]

it reminds me of blueberry yogurt which i love

[loud zephyr]

You can save a lot of time by bag lubing the springs, I prefer a small plastic container and 2 drops per 10 springs. The stems you can speedrun after 20 switches

[fluid ravine]

i got 4 of them

[gloomy raven]

oh ye ive heard of the bag method. ty for reminding me thatll make my life easier

[fluid ravine]

and they are my only 4

[gloomy raven]

currently i only have my wooting and a cheap membrane board as a backup

[fluid ravine]

me over here just put it in a bowl full of krytox 205g0 and shake the living hell out of the springs for 5 minutes

[fluid ravine]

i havge gmmk compact as my back up

[loud zephyr]

I figured if the method is good enough for the hardcore keyboard enthusiast such as Taehatypes, then I thought why not. I guess there's a valid argument to the consistency of bag lubing, but that's up to you

[fluid ravine]

[gloomy raven]

i suppose it all comes down to the amount of time you want to put into it

[loud zephyr]

True, true

[stray tiger]

I wouldnt suggest 205 for bag lubing though. 105 would be preferred but Im going to save you guys a lot of money. Dont buy 205 or 105

[gloomy raven]

neat. i was strongly considering the gmmk pro before i got my wooting but i didnt wanna dive headfirst into custom kb

[stray tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UKUHXK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 use this for your bag lubing

Should be enough to lube a few thousand switches

[gloomy raven]

alas i already bought the lube set from wootings website

[stray tiger]

The lube set is a good deal, dont sweat it.

If you have a problem like me and lube 1000's of switches, there are cheaper options lol

[gloomy raven]

ah good

ive decided that one day i will have a problem

that day is not today though

[stray tiger]

May that day never come lol

[gloomy raven]

kb modding seems so fun i shouldve gotten into this earlier

[loud zephyr]

It looks so delicious

[stray tiger]

Ok, so I take back what I said earlier. It is possible to overlube a switch...

[loud zephyr]

lol

[gloomy raven]

im gonna head out for now but great chatting with yall

cya

[loud zephyr]

Have a nice day, dude

[fluid ravine]

NO

NO GMMK PRO

NO

you will be broke than EVERY VALORANT PLAYER

decent board

BUT HORRIBLE BOARD FOR ITS PRICEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[gloomy raven]

i see

well no gmmk pro for sternberg

[fluid ravine]

no

:(

gmmk is ok

but no

[gloomy raven]

understandable, have a nice day

[winter rose]

i was researching a case swap for my 60he and had a few questions,

• i've been looking at the tofu60 redux (https://kbdfans.com/collections/tofu60-redux/products/tofu60-redux-case) and i've seen people say that they need to rotate the switches, but i haven't seen any reasons as to why, is it a sound thing? would it change the way the lighting works?
• has anybody used that case and would you say the brass bar is worth it?
• if i were to case swap how essential would re-lubing my switches be?

[severe dune]

Tofu Redux isn’t out yet

[winter rose]

im brand new to keyboard stuff and the only stuff i've done is get new keycaps so any help is appreciated haha

yeah it's coming out in september i saw but i didn't know if people had experience with the previous ones

[severe dune]

And you’ll only rotate the switches if you're having interference with cherry keycaps.

The older one or V1 didn’t have a brass plate

[winter rose]

ohhh okay ty

[loud zephyr]

No issues with needing to flip switches according to this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/118pfus/cherry_profile_keycaps/

[winter rose]

do you know off hand if the ducky pbt DS white pudding caps are cherry profile? i can't find where it would say

[winter rose]

oh! okay

what would the interference even be?

[stray tiger]

Check here https://discordapp.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[loud zephyr]

Orientation of the switches could interfere with GMK keycaps, but I have no idea how commong this is to be honest

[winter rose]

i was using this list! found some cool ones on there

[winter rose]

i swapped to the ducky ones and they've felt great i think they're cherry too?

[fluid ravine]

ducky keycaps are cherry yes

[stray tiger]

95% of cherry keycaps out there arent going to have an issue honestly

[winter rose]

oh yall fully answered my question in the switches section sorry about that 🥺

[fluid ravine]

im using cherrys rn 👍

the first thing i start experimenting with the cherry keycaps are
do south and north facing lekker switches sound different

and all i can say is

i have no fricking clue and its a waste of my time and a dumb question

might as well just move on with life and start gamingggggg

[winter rose]

lmao thank you for doing the work

TRUE

legend

[fluid ravine]

B)

[loud zephyr]

In regard to the brass bar, I'd get it purely for adding a bit more weight to the keyboard. Just adds a touch more premium to it imo. Sound profile probably won't change too much if you end up using the bottom case foam

[severe dune]

The interference which I had with my jtk keycaps which are cherry profile was it wouldn’t let the switch fully bottom out and it would hit the ridge of the cap.

[stray tiger]

Ive heard of someone else having an issue with JTK but I think it was only with a few switches on a single row.

[severe dune]

Yeah it was either the second or third. So I switched them south to work with those. Keycaps but I don’t think it’s an issue with my PBTfans set I just haven’t switched them back north yet.

[split night]

Should I wait for my case and keycaps to come before I lube my switches

[fluid ravine]

honestly

yeah

[severe dune]

lol @fluid ravine comment but I would just get them out of the way. It’s like a couple hours to do all 60 switches.

[fluid ravine]

lol

me over here processing

what i just said

and think about 2 things

getting them out of the way

or

get the full final results

all at once

[split night]

I mean yeah once I lube case swapping is pretty ez

Just gonna lube now since I have the time

[bronze blaze]

best website for keycaps??

[fluid ravine]

i can recommend the worst

[static tendon]

Go for it, I'm curious as well

[fluid ravine]

the back alley

the basement

hipiyo techs closet

[bronze blaze]

[static tendon]

What case is that?

Is that a wooting 60he inside of it?

[mental hemlock]

Tofu60, and no

I'm getting a lot of rattle which I need to fix but the typing experience is so good, I can only explain it like if you're touching those tiny little marshmallows that you put inside of hot chocolate as both the feel and sound.

[untold wigeon]

I’m criminal by the way

[static tendon]

Is this the new Tofu60 they recently released? It looks amazing

@untold wigeon or @mental hemlock whichever one you're on, just wondering if it's the new version of the Tofu, looks real good

[untold wigeon]

Old boy

[mental hemlock]

old version

[static tendon]

Oh yeah? Old style?

[mental hemlock]

yeah V1

[quaint grail]

It’s recommended to use the stock foam from the wooting when using another case right?

Tofu60 redux in particular

[loud zephyr]

Try both, doubt there would be much difference

Might be a little quieter with the Wooting foam as it's quite dense

[quaint grail]

Any repercussions from not using foam other than sound?

[loud zephyr]

None at all, I have a few customs that don't have any foam

[split night]

Why didn’t anyone tell me lubing would take 504039 years

[marble shuttle]

@split night experience is experience 😄👍🏻

[split night]

It’s fun tho

Just tiring I been at it for 2 hrs

[mental hemlock]

watch a movie

or a documentary

or adam22 get cucked

[split night]

Lmfaoo

Adam22 is insane

Insanely cuckholdy

[mental hemlock]

bros lowkey smart af tho

[split night]

Do u guys separate the 3 parts then lube or lube as u go

Bc I’ve been doing
Pop switch
Lube
Reconstruct

[loud zephyr]

Deconstruct it all if I'm bag lubing and throat sing as the Mongolians do

[quaint grail]

Anyone here got blank black keycaps on a white case

[mental hemlock]

:)))))|

[severe dune]

lol I told you it’s gonna take a couple hours to do 😅

[split night]

Did u lube everything or

Just the stems

[static tendon]

Any word on the wooting PCB/Switches only option? Still aiming towards that August release date?

[severe dune]

I lubed the bottom housing. Stems, top housing and springs.

[untold wigeon]

Yeah bro

[severe dune]

Yeah August/September

[quaint grail]

Damn that looks nice, thinking about getting some blank black Keycaps for my white tofu60 redux

[untold wigeon]

Why didn’t you go all black

[shell geode]

Test fitting the epoxy mold 👌

[marble shuttle]

👌

[marble shuttle]

how many times should I drop for bag lubing 60 springs I am kinda confused

12 is good ?

[austere creek]

wha

[marble shuttle]

gpl 105 bag lube

for springs

[austere creek]

im unsure why youd drop it

[marble shuttle]

oil drop bro

[untold wigeon]

2 times

Or more

Just a few

[marble shuttle]

I am thinking around 9 or 12 times

[fickle vector]

Looking good

[split night]

what to do if

over lubed

some keys

my spacebar seems a bit heavy

[bronze grove]

You open them and wipe a bit of the lube off?

[split night]

why did you pose that as a question

lol

thanks though

[bronze grove]

That's a grammar thing.

[split night]

👍

[craggy oyster]

May I know if the north facing led will be a problem if I use the GMK keycap?

[bronze grove]

Shouldn't be.

[craggy oyster]

Thank you

So glad to hear dat haha

[fervent osprey]

You can always turn the switches around if they interfere

[stark kelp]

Im thinking about customizing my keyboard to make it look Ole Miss like. im thinking of combining this burgundy tofu redux and these blue keycaps and then doing some spray paint thing(like pic above but a different color). Thoughts?

logos for example

[winter rose]

hotty toddy

[spark solstice]

What are those blue caps I like

[celest wedge]

if I were to buy a new plate for my wooting would any gh-60 plate work?

[bronze grove]

Not without modifications, no.

[shell geode]

Thanks!

[celest wedge]

are there any plates that'll work other than the original steel one

alu, fr4, or cf or preferred

bro pls I hate this plate

it's shit

[wary yarrow]

Not without modifications, no.

in august/september a PC plate will be sold by wooting tho

#🪛│modding_faq message

[fervent osprey]

If I understood correctly the pc plate won’t be sold separately, only included with the module.

[bronze grove]

At least initially. We need to solve the issue with the ISO version before we can even consider selling plates by themselves

[celest wedge]

What makes a normal gh-60 plate not work for the wooting like why isn't it compatible?

[bronze grove]

The most obvious difference is the lack of standoffs.

The 60HE plate has standoffs soldered to the plate.

[celest wedge]

I feel like it would be fine without the standoffs

The cc bakeneko 60 is

And if I used the plate foam I think it would be fine

[chilly jay]

you can use an online laser cutting/waterjet service to get the plate cut for you if you really want it

[bronze grove]

Your switch plate would literally just lie loose on top of the foam. Rattle around and cause issues with the sensor calibration.

[celest wedge]

But the switches have the 2 prongs that go into the PCB

[bronze grove]

No?

[celest wedge]

Yeah

It's only 2 plastic legs but like it worka

[bronze grove]

You've been warned 😄

While making a custom plate is by no means impossible, it is not just a done and done thing.

[celest wedge]

I'm gonna try it with a random 60% plate I have

[coral gorge]

Guys is there any vid of how to put the geon switch film, I’m struggling lool

[hidden flame]

Do you think this case would be work? I didn’t see it on the comparability list but there’s a lot of random cases on Ali

Thank you

[stray tiger]

Without the plate being screwed into the PCB, when you press the keys (especially in the middle) its going to create slight differences in distant between the switch and the PCB and its going to cause input issues. It might work ok if you set all of your actuation points to the highest value but I cant confirm that

[pallid spoke]

How much mm to take out the frame of the keyboard

??

[long moat]

hi, from the modding-faq post, I couldn't understand one thing; will we be able to buy just the PC plate if we own the OG 60HE?

since we own a PCB anyway

[pallid spoke]

Like the screw size

[fluid ravine]

ya

usb port mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
very tight?

[celest wedge]

The plate I was gonna use didn't have the right holes for the screws so I couldn't try it anyway

But I hate this steel plate it's so shit

Why didn't they just make it alu

[stray tiger]

If it was a GH60 plate the screw holes to align to the case should be good

[stray tiger]

Probably because they were designing a performance keyboard that leaves very little chance to bad inputs and not a keyboard to compete with ones that focus on sounding good.

[celest wedge]

The one I had wasn't I was just thinking about buying one

[surreal rivet]

I am about lube all the switches and have a quick question:

I took off the keycaps and noticed the 2HE is a bit different than the 60HE in terms of what's under the caps

it looks like there's this black layer on top. is this the module?

am I meant to be able to pull this up or do I need to just pull switches off right from here?

first timer here 😶

[sacred jay]

you could take the switches off from there

[sacred jay]

with a switch puller its ez

[fluid ravine]

thats the whole module

all you need to do is just take out the switches with a switch puller

and done

#4 (wooting two)
#3 (wooting 60he)
those are the switch plates

[surreal rivet]

thank you! yeah #4 for the twoHE is like on there on there.. if I wanted to take it off there was gonna be a ton of force involved lmao

I guess since I can't take it off I won't be able to work on the stabilizers?

[obsidian dagger]

the plate is screwed down

[fluid ravine]

they're plate mount stabs

you just take out the switch for the modifiers and then unclip the stabs from the plate

[surreal rivet]

I took the screws off already, still stuck

[obsidian dagger]

sounds like its just held by all the switches then

[fluid ravine]

yeah

well not really?

i dont know how 100% keebs work

[surreal rivet]

haha I'll give it some work and let you know if I'm running into anything!

[fluid ravine]

alright

gl

[austere creek]

you can remove everything without a screwdriver

i have recently done so for my girlfriends wooting 2he

[surreal rivet]

surely you have to remove the screws (#3 from pic above)?

did you just straight pull (and by pull I really mean rip) the aluminum switch plate (#4) right off the PCBA (5)?

omg wait.. lol it did come off easy.. this time pulling from the top instead of bottom from an area I already pulled a switch.. derp

[austere creek]

for me the switches while requiring some force where easy enough to just lift out using the switch puller

although i did usually use the squeeze, push switch to the rgb side and then tilt forward to get the bottom out first

and for stabs just push the clips in and take them out like any clipin stab

[surreal rivet]

nice got everything out! all switches and stabs

agreed on the switches, came out so much easier pulling from the bottom side first

[high saffron]

does anyone know if the gmk wob keycaps have any interference with the lekker switches

[bronze grove]

Shouldn't be an issue

[pale aspen]

but gaming with abs is bad idea

shineeee

[loud zephyr]

No issues with GMK at all

[stark kelp]

man of class I see

[stray tiger]

I love the way they keycaps get a little sticky when they are shined. Especially for gaming

[placid blaze]

wtf

[south knoll]

ew

[fiery wadi]

What case is that?

[loud zephyr]

FMJ Design #2(?) which was made for the Poker 60% back in 2015

Here's someone elses build in silver colour https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57617.0

[quaint grail]

Can anyone link me to the requirements of custom cables

to ensure like they will work with the wooting

[bronze grove]

Around 6ft total (coils add length, measure the stretched out total length)
Good quality solder work.

Any cable should work within roughly those limits - Though you may need to reduce your brightness a bit to around 70% if you want Tachyon mode.

[quaint grail]

Appreciate the help!

[fair mountain]

What is the length of the cable if the brightness 0% and tachyon on?
I want to change to a longer

[bronze grove]

No clue.

[fair mountain]

Can theoretically longer cables be used?

[bronze grove]

Theoretically. It's ultimately a question of voltage instability and drops over length.

A powered USB hub could be used as a workaround.

[fair mountain]

Thank you very much！
It helps me

[tawny abyss]

Wondering if anyone can help, I have an aluminium case I was thinking of using for my 60HE
and the part seems to be discontinued as its a bit old now
so I cant get a store link/specs

its compatible withh GH60
but does it look like any of those standoffs will cause issue?

[lone ether]

anyone have good ansi keycap reccomendations for the two he?
totally not coping over the death of ://blank

[bronze grove]

2HE is... challenging. Since it has the four additional media key keycaps above numpad. These are not a common inclusion in sets.

[lone ether]

yeah i noticed those, but im not picky over that

[bronze grove]

Definitely wouldn't work due to the superfluous standoffs.

[lone ether]

time to open wootility and remap the keys to media keys!

[bronze grove]

There needs to be about 2mm of gap between the top of the standoffs that it DOES use and the bottom of the case, since all of the components are bottom side mounted.

For example that standoff right on the USB slot would immediately kill the PCB if attempted to screw in.

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-llama-happy-llama-gif-13072069

[lone ether]

happy llama

[obsidian dagger]

really depends on what profile and color you want

[lone ether]

i really wanted something like ://blank

but since they dont make them anymore, im looking for something close to that

[obsidian dagger]

the minty one?

the other one is just black...

[merry glen]

What mods should I do to my 60he to get a nice bubble wrap pop sound?

[round quiver]

anyone have any idea when the lekker switch springs will be in stock again?

[bronze grove]

Uh never.

We discontinued them in favour of pre-assembled switches. L45 and L60 (L60 being what's on the boards by default, springs would be L50 using this logic)

[round quiver]

ah I see dissapointing

[spark solstice]

Pcb switch pads very hard to pull off while keeping switch actuation tolerance the same

[fluid ravine]

never.

if you ever attempt doing dem POPPY MODSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
you will SUFFAAAAAAAAAAAA

it will just sound like plastic if you tried ;-;

pure
clacky
plastic

how do i know?
cus i attempted them

[merry glen]

Dang, well I just don’t want a loud heavy ping haha. Any suggestions?

[fluid ravine]

ping?

uh

burger mount?

tape mod wont really help with the wooting
so burger mod should do it

[merry glen]

Yeah like an aluminum ping noise. I don’t want that lol. I’ve thought about a burger mount. That might be the move

[fluid ravine]

burger mount for the wooting is probably the most effective in noise reduction
I believe that the tape mod doesn't work only because of the steel plate

[merry glen]

I saw their video on the tape mod and how it doesn’t really do anything. I appreciate the help!

[fluid ravine]

npnp

[fluid ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvqUg8hyCwA

is something like this you're trying to make out of the wooting

[lusty birch]

yall think the brass weight in the tofu case is a good idea

i didnt get one but im wondering if i should have

[merry glen]

More like this https://youtube.com/shorts/-yokfGAKnBQ?feature=share

[fluid ravine]

yep

never ever

will anyone achieve something like that on a wooting

nooooooooop

nope

we blame the lekker switches

ig

[merry glen]

Good to know

[lusty birch]

burger mount seems hard to do with the original foam

[stray tiger]

I wouldnt say ever, but not today. The switch characteristics are a factor, as is the plate. However there are some people who have gotten close but it required changing plates. Im SUPER excited to get my hands on the upcoming module and see how much I can tweak/tune it

[lusty birch]

i plan on burger mounting in the tofu 60 with the origianl foam, hopefully it sounds the same as it does in the stock case rn

[stray tiger]

If its in the Tofu you should be able to flip the foam over or peel the second layer off

[lusty birch]

okay so only use one layer of foam?

[stray tiger]

yes sir thats what I would suggest and I actually dont even use foam in my aluminum cases a lot of time. I prefer fiberfill to foam.

$5 for a bag large enough to do 100 keyboards

[lusty birch]

fiberfill? you talking about the pillow stuff?

ive never heard of fiber fill

[stray tiger]

Yes the pillow stull. Its polyester fibers

[lusty birch]

ahh okay gotchu

[stray tiger]

https://www.amazon.com/Fairfield-PF16B-Poly-Fil-Premium-Polyester/dp/B006I04VLU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=polyfill&sr=8-3

[fluid ravine]

im having faith with the next module

ok

[lusty birch]

cool ill look into this

thank ya

[fluid ravine]

thoughts
have if i put strips of bandaid inside the lekekr switches like the bandaid mod with stabs

cus im thinking of trying that rn

[stray tiger]

What are you hoping to accompish by doing that?

[fluid ravine]

difference in sound profile

[lusty birch]

wouldn't it block the switch

[fluid ravine]

put like a strip inside the switch under the stem

like a pad

[stray tiger]

People have done it, some said they liked it, some said they didnt. Ive even seen silicon dipping done on the switches. The sky is the limit

As long as youre aware of the risks

[fluid ravine]

i believe they're is no risk so ima try it

i will be back with the first

[lusty birch]

keep us posted that sounds interesting

[fluid ravine]

should i put it under the stem or in the bottomg housing

[stray tiger]

Ask @tall hollow as I know he has already done it

[fluid ravine]

o bet

ok

so

i did one puting it under the stem

and uh

it dampens the sound

but it feels weird?

[tall hollow]

What’s up?

[stray tiger]

Thats the report from a few others who have tried it as well

[fluid ravine]

its pretty tedious

[stray tiger]

This guy wanted to throw some tape/bandaids in his switches and I told him to ask you

[tall hollow]

Ah, I tried it, didn’t like the slight mushy bottom out it produces.

[fluid ravine]

im agreeing to that as i spam this thingggggggg

[tall hollow]

So I tried it, but ultimately didn’t like it, although others might like it

I should talk here more lol

[fluid ravine]

yep i dont like it

errrrrrrrrrrm

[shell geode]

I've been trying to find a solution to fill in the bottom of the housing with a hard material. I'm looking to reduce total travel without having to sacrifice the plastic on plastic clack as opposed to using a paper or a silicone fill that would give a mushy feedback. Reducing the travel distance to 3.5mm or 3mm would be nice

[obsidian dagger]

resin?

[shell geode]

I've thought about resin, might give it a try, the application area is just really tiny

[obsidian dagger]

alternatively, suspending/dissolving some plastic in solvent to get it to be thinner to apply evenly?

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/evan-and-katelyn-wait-what-surprise-gif-11715788

Did someone say... RESIN

[obsidian dagger]

and as dumb as it sounds... paint layers?

or varnish

[shell geode]

oo that sounds tedious lol

[obsidian dagger]

for sure

[shell geode]

Hm, I would need to dip like a toothpick into the resin mixture and then let it drip off into the housing

[obsidian dagger]

why not a syringe?

[shell geode]

Ive thought of that too, but didn't want leftover resin get stuck inside the needle and syringe and cure inside the syringe, I much rather dispose of a toothpick than a syringe

[obsidian dagger]

I guess. I work with syringes so nbd for me.

[spark solstice]

Aw ye

Wish me luck gotta lube 60+ switches after work today

[normal schooner]

Goodluck 🙂

[tepid marten]

Got my keyboard coming next week, safe to say im looking forward to having it arrive, Wondering what case swap and keycaps people would recommend.

[shell geode]

Have you been over to the Wootstations channel? There are so many choices out there, you have plenty of time to research and see what everyone is doing 🙂

[tepid marten]

I will have a browse 🙂

[fluid ravine]

(∩ᐛ )⊃━☆ﾟᴳᴸ

[trail forge]

just finished lubing my switches, only took around 3 hours, not too bad

and the sound is just insane compared to before

[fluid ravine]

👍

Wait until the lube is worked in

[trail forge]

Uh oh does it get better or worse

[fluid ravine]

You will see

[trail forge]

I'm sure it'll just get better, and if not I can always get more switches and go again 😛

[fluid ravine]

Wait what switches?

[trail forge]

Lekkers

Wooting sells them on their site, if I need more I can just buy them

[fluid ravine]

Y u need more

[fluid ravine]

The lube makes the switches feel smoother
The chatter us reduced or goes away

But the plastic to plastic sound is still there

[trail forge]

Luckily I ordered an aluminum case for my build 😄

And yeah, these feel much "creamier" than before

[south knoll]

If you lube the switches and then later on swap the case do you relube

[untold wigeon]

Which one

[trail forge]

You don't need to, no. You really only need to lube your switches once.

[trail forge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XSKFZ8F

[untold wigeon]

no :(((;

Why did u do hat

You need to get the Tofu

[trail forge]

I can get both lol

But tofu cases are on pre-order and I cba to wait that long. So I can drop some cash on a case for now and get a new Tofu when they drop

[untold wigeon]

Become Tofu Brothers with me

[agile belfry]

Freebird60 case with some Etsy keycaps

[spark solstice]

It's lube time

[fluid ravine]

awwwwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[spark solstice]

Disassembled

[wet spire]

I wonder how the Gateron KS-20 Magnetic Hall Sensor Switches feel

[spark solstice]

Slightly ligher

And faster

[late bay]

I did a burger mount, and I'm not sure I'm a fan. I feel like it's slightly better for typing, but noticeably worse for osu.

I suppose it won't matter when the UwU comes out though.

[rare pine]

can I use any standard keycaps with my wooting?

or is it recommended to only keep the stock ones?

[late bay]

Any Cherry stem keycap is fine. I've switched through about 5 sets so far on my Wooting 60HE.

[rare pine]

Awesome! Really apprecaite the quick response

[fluid ravine]

[mental hemlock]

The Tofu boys are coming to play

[spark solstice]

Almost done

[fluid ravine]

HAH?

[mental hemlock]

TenZ relax

he is venturing into this journey by himself

[fluid ravine]

OH CMON I DO 2

ig im a slow poke at lubing switches

[trail forge]

take your time and do it right

there is no time limit and you only have to do it once

[fluid ravine]

about that

make that

uhhhhh

x6

[trail forge]

this is the sixth time youve lubed your switches? o.O

[fluid ravine]

yes

and im slow

[shrewd sun]

why have you lubed your switches 6 times..

[fluid ravine]

sith time of lubing switches and still yet cant even get a single keeb case

cus im special

[shrewd sun]

those poor switches

are the housings loose yet?

[spark solstice]

Done yay

[fluid ravine]

no

i lubed 6 sets of switches

[spark solstice]

So roughly under 3 hours

[fluid ravine]

EEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMM

so fast

i cant keep up

[spark solstice]

Pure will power

Half way through I speed up

[fluid ravine]

SO YOU CAN GO FASTER?!?!?!

ERRRMMMM

[spark solstice]

Ye

[fluid ravine]

someone

please send help for the next time i lube switches

espiecally this person

PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

KEEB GODS

MY HAND CANT KEEP UP

[spark solstice]

Lubed the stem spring and bottom housing and the top stock

[fluid ravine]

springs?

;-;

oh

wait

i cant reads

jlkfsadljksadfjkls;adp'fjk;adfrsjk;

dfsa

[spark solstice]

Yep these springs have horrendous ping in the lekkers so I lubed mine

[mental hemlock]

whats the best film for oil kings

[fluid ravine]

idk

[mental hemlock]

just gimme the best of everything

[fluid ravine]

all of them

:)

[spark solstice]

I like polycarbonate films =extra thocc

[mental hemlock]

everything i need to lube and film on amazon

[spark solstice]

Poron films muffle slightly

[mental hemlock]

be a doll and send me it

[fluid ravine]

3d printed ones

[mental hemlock]

thank you

[fluid ravine]

ongong

[mental hemlock]

no

[spark solstice]

Time to install my lubed gaterons in my wooting

[fluid ravine]

lol

[mental hemlock]

@fluid ravine send me everything I need please

[fluid ravine]

ok

gib adress

and you're set

[spark solstice]

Next switch swap

[mental hemlock]

dms

[untold wigeon]

wait so you lubed like 400 switches

[spark solstice]

Looking nice

So clean 😁

Aw man my lubeing was perfect

Super low thock

RGB takes a hit mainly because I installed the switches south facing for cherry caps but rgb for me isent that important while gaming

[fluid ravine]

si

[fluid ravine]

o

does tightening the switch slot help?

like the uh

[spark solstice]

4mm actuation and 0.1 actuation still works perfectly fine 👍

[fluid ravine]

sound profile ig?

[spark solstice]

It's way lower for sure

[fluid ravine]

👍

[fluid ravine]

for wut

:v

[spark solstice]

The sound

[fluid ravine]

the lube or

im a bit dumb :D

[spark solstice]

I put pcb switch pads

[fluid ravine]

i use packing foam

lol

cus im broke

[spark solstice]

But for my build it doesn't affect actuation

I used poron pads

[fluid ravine]

can we get a sound test :^

[spark solstice]

In my other favorite keyboard I use TTC speed silvers v2s

[trail forge]

put some music on and make a routine

i got mine done in around that same time

[spark solstice]

So this white gateron switch is great for me

[trail forge]

the thock is real

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588193248305217537/1130634293522219068/20230717_185607.mp4
my sound test isnt as nice as yours

[fluid ravine]

sounded like how i imagined it

[fluid ravine]

mods?

[spark solstice]

Bro the thock is amazing

[trail forge]

lubed switches and some pbt keycaps

[spark solstice]

So low

[trail forge]

@fluid ravine

[spark solstice]

I have abs clear caps

[trail forge]

i got some pbt blank blacks

[fluid ravine]

mines sounds the same but clackier

[spark solstice]

Abs is harder so it can like hinder against thock I think a little

Clack clack

[fluid ravine]

ye

plastic clack?

[spark solstice]

I remember trying tangerines

[fluid ravine]

nvm

[spark solstice]

Bro so much clack

[fluid ravine]

I WANT THOCK

[spark solstice]

Yep

[fluid ravine]

BUT I CAN ONLY CLACK

[spark solstice]

Use poron switch pads

[trail forge]

this is the first keyboard ive owned that wasnt a cheap $99 hyperx

so my experience with switches is minimal

[spark solstice]

And at least 5layers of tape mod I have like 9 in mine

[trail forge]

is the tape mod worth it for the wooting?

[spark solstice]

And burger mount

Only if you go crazy like I did

Idk I think I have more than 9 layers

[trail forge]

jesus fuck

[fluid ravine]

no tape mod

useless thang

[spark solstice]

Yes tape mod

[trail forge]

i have no tape mod in mine and the thock is already nuts

[fluid ravine]

doesnt do anything :L

[spark solstice]

If it doesn't do anything for you you didn't add enough layers

[fluid ravine]

nop

[spark solstice]

Yep

[fluid ravine]

its because of the steel plate

[trail forge]

gotta be honest, the video on wooting's YT page really didnt show much difference with the tape mod

[fluid ravine]

the plate is the reason why there's no difference

[spark solstice]

Burger mount makes tape mod work

Also pcb switch pads

[fluid ravine]

mmmmmmmmm i dont think so-
i have mine burger mounted and tempest
i took out and reapplied quite alot of time

there's no difference

even after like 6+

[spark solstice]

How many layers did they do ?

[trail forge]

4 or 5

[fluid ravine]

1-5

[spark solstice]

Ah

[fluid ravine]

after 3 it really does nothing actually

[spark solstice]

Gotta do 10 I guess

[trail forge]

i saw some ridiculous mod earlier that put tape on the bottom of the spacebar cap

[fluid ravine]

LMAO

[spark solstice]

Lmao

[fluid ravine]

try to make the spacebar not hollow

[spark solstice]

I tryed making my own space bar foam fill

It's ight

Slight change

[fluid ravine]

same :/

i filled mine with neoprene

[trail forge]

is it worth it?

[spark solstice]

My spares anyone want them ?

😏

[fluid ravine]

yes

i would like 4

for wasd

[spark solstice]

I have one in my little switch tester as a fidgit toy

[fluid ravine]

:_)

:0

woaow

[spark solstice]

Break in a switch a day

[fluid ravine]

well

[trail forge]

lmfao thats impressive

[fluid ravine]

after breaking in the lube for me is pain

no more thock :(

thock->clack

[spark solstice]

Lmao

Lekker clack

[mental hemlock]

what is a switch tester for

[fluid ravine]

idfk why

but WHY

[trail forge]

just clean and relube them

[spark solstice]

I even had to put painting tape in some holes for the switches to prevent housing clacking

[fluid ravine]

did that

haha

[trail forge]

thats literally gona be my solution

the maintenance is worth it for a thock

one must earn the thock

[spark solstice]

Also the gaterons I have seem to have better tolerance

[fluid ravine]

i must achieve one thock

man

[spark solstice]

Gotta super lube them springs my guy

[fluid ravine]

i aint spending more money and wasting another 6 hrs just to lube

f this

im out

[trail forge]

its not a waste if you get the thock

[fluid ravine]

more like achieve thock and lose it

:(

[trail forge]

one must maintain the thock

[fluid ravine]

wait

you have stock case right bypass?

[trail forge]

for now yeah

[fluid ravine]

and you said you only done lube and keycaps

[trail forge]

yeh

[fluid ravine]

how long has it been since you lube them

and what profile are you keycaps

[trail forge]

oh, like 6 hours lmfao