#🔧│keyboard_modding

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bronze grove
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And I am explaining how it works everywhere.

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If you wanted a custom set, the seller would have to make you a custom mold.

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Thousands of dollars.

dry wigeon
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Ok got it 😄

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And I guess it's the same problem for other types of keycaps too? Like rubber, aluminium or other

bronze grove
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Each material is different. PBT is just very difficult to work with, but also very efficient once ready.

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Metal ones I would imagine could be engraved by a machine on a order by order basis, if the seller wanted to.

gentle silo
dry wigeon
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That sucks, sounds like I will not have my custom keycaps lol

sacred mountain
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hi :)

normal schooner
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welcome flum 🙂

gentle silo
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what custom legends would you need anyways?

dry wigeon
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Oh looks like we can upload our design!!

signal pine
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after the announcement about the new switches, i was wondering.. is there anything stopping a user from modding the switches with new springs themselves?

somber scroll
signal pine
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non-magnetic.. so aluminum springs of the right size and strength

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i can see why those would be difficult to find

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what are most switch springs made of?

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and can i make my own plastic springs with a resin 3D printer? :p

zinc gust
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Is it me or are all the aftermarket allum cases for 60HE in the pin either sold out, discontinued, or no longer compatible?

austere creek
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but there is non alu metals that are non magnetic

bronze grove
fervent osprey
zinc gust
zinc gust
mild anvil
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so the new spring L45 is coming lubbed with switch ?

signal pine
austere creek
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as mentioned you need to contact a manufacturer

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and get them made specially

signal pine
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heavier springs would be nice to try, since the wooting has a use for more force per switch

austere creek
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aka buy a few thousand as they otherwise wont even entertain manufacturing them

austere creek
signal pine
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perhaps Wooting themselves could consider having them manufactured if there's enough demand 👀

signal pine
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other than lighter ones, since yk, osu gameplay

austere creek
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osu wasnt the biggest community asking for lighter springs

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fortnite was

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or well FPS in general

signal pine
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oh, damn

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i wasn't expecting that

mild anvil
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so the new spring L45 is coming lubbed with switch ?

austere creek
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factory lubed

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just like the l60 switches already in the board

teal hill
austere creek
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i didnt say they would

teal hill
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i know i know

signal pine
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oh well, i can't wait for my Two HE to arrive to its destination warehouse, i'm excited to see just how good the keyboard is :>

teal hill
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I want a 60HE in a korn

signal pine
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hoping it doesn't end up chattering like my old K70

glacial wind
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I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the demand for fps lighter spring is from folks seeing tenz and such do it

signal pine
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either way, we as customers now have more options, and that's always quite nice

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gonna be around for the ride, i can't wait to see what becomes of Wooting as a company

glacial wind
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Yeah more options is always nice. I do wonder how many are able to use the 0.1 actuation and lighter springs though, it’s so sensitive already for me with stock

signal pine
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wonder if we'll ever see low profile lekker switches

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or if anyone's ever going to make their own 👀

balmy coral
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Where is the best place to find keycap optioons for the wooting in Europe?

signal pine
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don't think you need to look at anything specific to Wooting keyboards

balmy coral
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I'm just not sure where to even start looking in Europe as most sites seem US focused

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And I worry the stuff on amazon is trash.

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Just wanted to have a look at nice quality options

signal pine
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Amazon usually isn't the worst, but also not the best

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diykeycap is what my friend picked

glacial wind
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Easier to look for a particular set you like then see if it’s in stock from an eu vendor (or kdbfans also has an aliexpress store which has slow but very cheap shipping anywhere)

prisma cosmos
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did anyone test lekker L60 vs L50 when the L50 came out?

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wondering if it's that big a of difference

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even with this L45 now

balmy coral
rustic wyvern
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With us being able to purchase just packs of switches now, does this mean that you technically don't have to buy the Wooting 60HE to get the best low latency switches on the market? I could just buy the switches and throw them into my keyboard and get the desired performance right? Or do you need the PCB and switches for it to work to it's full potential?

bronze grove
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The switch is a component, not the entire product.

late pulsar
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As good as it gets for now

  • lubed
  • fr4 plate
  • durock stabs
  • aliexpress case foam
late pulsar
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Until the Tofu Redux comes out and I get a white one 😂

gentle silo
late pulsar
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Came today 🌚

gentle silo
late pulsar
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As well as the standoffs

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Was a good afternoon

gentle silo
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do you know the difference to the "old" ones?

late pulsar
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Edge stitching is better, and I like the surface more

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Had a white 600x500 before though

placid blaze
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@main cipher Even if Wooting doesn't end up manufacturing heavier springs is there any way you could provide us with a manufacturer source where we could purchase some ourselves? (If they exist)

gentle silo
light drift
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am i just being dumb, when i take out my switches one side of the clips gets a bit scuffed. When i put it back in, it's a bit looser than it was

late pulsar
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No sliding at all on ikea tables 😂

inland ocean
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What mouse pad is it? can someone link??

gentle silo
gentle silo
late pulsar
late pulsar
gentle silo
late pulsar
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Wait a sec

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I‘ll go compare

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Base seems grippier on skin

gentle silo
late pulsar
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Holy shit

gentle silo
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this pad is new btw. bought in the sale like a week ago

bronze tundra
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Even my knockoff 9 dollar pad from amazon is more stable than that lmao

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JFC

late pulsar
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that’s not good. Maybe talk to the whale for a replacement?

austere creek
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how well it sticks depends on not just the pad but also the table

clear kindle
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Are the new switches now the lighter springs or what is new about them?

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ik one is lighter

bronze grove
clear kindle
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ah ok thx

late pulsar
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Maybe tighter tolerances? 👀

gentle silo
bronze grove
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Should be the same. I am not 100% sure if the different amount of lube that Calder mentions is just the L45 or also the L60. I would imagine just the L45s.

late pulsar
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Already ordered a pack of 70 lol

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I hope I like them stock, lubing is such a chore

gentle silo
clear kindle
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Is there going to be like a guide on Yt on how to install the new switches?

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or is there already one

placid blaze
untold wigeon
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Do yall think tape mod would be a good idea for the wooting

placid blaze
# austere creek gateron makes the lekkers.

Right, my question is if you guys worked together w/ them on the white/orange ones outside of the initial specifications you set up when designing the Lekker standard, if that makes sense.

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Like, are they independent from what Wooting could acknowledge in the lineup of switches? (Which is now L60 and L45 I guess)

marsh juniper
clear kindle
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thx

obsidian dagger
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idk

shell geode
fluid ravine
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ah good afternoon

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i am here!

shell geode
fluid ravine
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what we talkin about today :)

placid blaze
shell geode
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We seem to be talking about switches and springs

placid blaze
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I'm especially interested in the silenced ones

fluid ravine
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ah ok

shell geode
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I see, I'm also interested in the silent ones, too bad I can't put them on my Woot though

placid blaze
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huh, how come?

shell geode
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The silent ones aren't hall effect sensors, I also shared the article myself up top

placid blaze
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huuuuh

shell geode
# placid blaze huuuuh
placid blaze
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I'm on the same webpage, they surely specify hall sensor switches

shell geode
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Oh, the KS-20 are silent?

placid blaze
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gee I could have sworn somebody said the oranges were buy they might've gotten mixed up

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sigh, dreams dashed

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ahh you even corrected them there

shell geode
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Haha right, I like reading from the source to not get confused

placid blaze
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well when there's box stem switches released we can at least take solace in that in lieu of silent ones

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honestly I could see A LOT of people purchasing silents though

shell geode
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Those would be cool!

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I'm in the market for silent ones myself and ordered some Sea Salt silents before I saw Gateron's release, I hope they are good and Im waiting to see a review of the Gateron silent soon

placid blaze
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I'm all in on $WOOTNG sadly

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can't get enough of the feel of HE switches

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kind of like shooting yourself in the foot if you like variety or different layouts, but hey at least the performance is second to none havo

untold wigeon
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true

placid blaze
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I'm just gonna be farming copium until they relese the L150g switches mods

shell geode
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I love my Woot and its function and I look forward to using it everyday, but I don't like the springy-ness of the Lekker

placid blaze
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I feel the opposite honestly! I really love the typing feel etc.

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goes to show how much varience there is in the keeb community 🤝

shell geode
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As it should be!

placid blaze
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I even like the general sound profile of the Lekkers, but they could do with some muffling

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the clack is nice, it's just ridiculously loud stock

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IMO

untold wigeon
shell geode
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I know the team has put a lot of work into the design and it would only get better from here

placid blaze
# untold wigeon what mods did you use for your own

I messed up the silicone mod that @somber scroll introduced me to, tape modded, switched out the stabs (not necessary), tape modded and lubed up the switches. Along with that I'm using an aluminium case and keycaps and have a semi-gasket mount in my case, which has car sound dampener at the bottom of it. (The central H-G screw is screwed in to keep the PCB secure)

somber scroll
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Ugh gateron gib silent switches plox

placid blaze
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speak of the devil

somber scroll
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Lol

placid blaze
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tbh it's not a messed up mod at all, some keys stick every 20 mins or so but it's totally usable
my application was hella inconsistent though

somber scroll
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I think my silicone is coming off the bottoms of my stems on some keys. I probably should’ve cleaned the factory lube off better and/or I need to somehow put it in the bottom of the switch housing instead of on the stem 😡

placid blaze
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bottom of the PCB

somber scroll
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Yeah usability on mine has been fantastic. Besides a few of them starting to come off

placid blaze
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so I like to use 1-2 layers of masking tape and then 2-3 layers of electrical tape

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the masking tape is just so I don't get nasty sticky residue on the PCB

untold wigeon
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ohhh

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so electrical is for the noise and the masking is so it doesn't dirty the PCB

placid blaze
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yep!

untold wigeon
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thank you

placid blaze
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I mean masking tape also affects the sound I'm guessing

untold wigeon
placid blaze
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honestly maybe a controversial take but the tape mod is genuinely the mod that makes the biggest difference in terms of changing up the sound to me

bronze grove
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The 60HE PCB is covered in a protective resin of sorts. It ain't getting dirty.

placid blaze
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right, I just don't want it to be mad sticky either

untold wigeon
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but im gonna be smart and assume you put the masking over the electrical

placid blaze
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nope

placid blaze
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masking tape directly on the PCB and electrical tape over the masking tape

untold wigeon
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damn

placid blaze
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that way there's no nasty residue and it's super easy to peel off if I need to

untold wigeon
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true

somber scroll
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Jk that’s a complete lie

placid blaze
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no shot mine survived water damage 💀

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like 10 or so LEDs are busted but it's really not that bad

untold wigeon
placid blaze
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I genuinely didn't think it'd be possible for a PCB to survive water damage

placid blaze
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my beloved 60HE was suffering for a week or two, had to switch back

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but now it works

placid blaze
shell geode
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haha glad its just LED and nothing worse

untold wigeon
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tbh im probably not gonna have my RGB on much at all

placid blaze
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it was bad for a while, like pretty much unusable because some keys weren't working and some keys would count as 5 presses at once

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I left it for a week or two just chilling in my room

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plugged it in one day and took a BIIIIIIIG huff of copium

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and it worked

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the Wooting 60HE is clearly a fairytale keyboard.

untold wigeon
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it fixed itself the wooting has magic😱

placid blaze
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naw seriously

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I'm not the kind of dumbass to water damage stuff often

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but when I do, I don't expect it to come back from the ashes after a few weeks

untold wigeon
untold wigeon
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thats actually magical though

placid blaze
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yeah nah after it survived I was trying to market the keyboard to all the homies

late pulsar
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Started off as an RGB enjoyer, now it looks like this 😂

placid blaze
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I need everyone to buy a Wooting so that they'll release a planck layout PCB for me havo

untold wigeon
placid blaze
placid blaze
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I pretty much just use white on my RGB settings and have diff colours for certain keys on function layers

untold wigeon
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hot take: pure white light>RGB

late pulsar
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True

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If lighting, then white

placid blaze
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tbh ever since they introduced per-layer RGB I do like it in moderation

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having per-key RGB is incredibly useful for indicating things sometimes but if I had to choose a single colour white backlight >

late pulsar
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Have my numpad for macros so not needed 😄

untold wigeon
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ew numpad

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jk

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you do you

placid blaze
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my one and only beef with Wooting is that Wootomation is a separate utility from the Wootility. Having macros be programmed on a hardware level would be way better than what we currently have IMO. Dynamic keystroke is good but just a turbo feature / turbo multiple keys feature would be huge on the kb honestly

fluid ravine
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lovin it

late pulsar
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25€ from keygem

tiny lion
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I have a question wich usb c to usb a cable can recommend for a wooting over the original one yellow and black I looking only for black cable any help thanks

bronze grove
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Get one that is shorter than 2m that can carry data.

tiny lion
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@bronze grove wich one do you have a link please

tiny lion
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Are this good?

normal schooner
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aviator cables not the best

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heard good stuff from this guy with lemo connetors

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(german dude)

bronze grove
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Aviator is generally not a problem. The length though...

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But Y'all never mentioned COILS, only a black cable havo

tiny lion
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This look great but I don’t know wich variants are good

normal schooner
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what mansen sais the length

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under 1.8m is good

tiny lion
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How long are the original from wooting?

bronze grove
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6ft/1.8m total.

tiny lion
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Nice also 1.8m are great?

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Sorry for so much question

bronze grove
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Here you go. Watch this.

fervent osprey
tiny lion
normal schooner
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from all the people you ask im the worst person with color palette taste

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I think the lemo connector is cool thats it

fervent osprey
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I have Krytox gpl105, 205g0, switch films, sheets of different foams, orings for burger mount. Am I still missing something or finally I’m ready to mod? monkashake

fathom fiber
fervent osprey
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We had a conversation about it here today. With specific films apparently you can.

fervent osprey
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Yeah, but am I missing something or is that everything? I’m making sure I have everything when the keyboard comes because some of the things are still gonna take time to come.

shell geode
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That looks about it! You're ready to mod!

somber scroll
fluid ravine
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!!!

fair mountain
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In the announcement about the new switch, it says (new spring product is under development), does this mean that something different from the L45 will be released in the future?

inland ocean
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Havn't had much free time but I've got my films fitting pretty nice now

ashen smelt
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Or maybe try selling the design to wooting for them to sell

inland ocean
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I wouldn't think wooting would be interested in producing them

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I'll give the STL to anyone who wants it but still adjusting atm

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lekker switch has a dip at the bottom also

ashen smelt
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I think the demand is decent for films

inland ocean
ashen smelt
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Should I get .125 or .15?

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If I wanted to buy the divinikey ones

inland ocean
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no idea how well any of them work, but I saw Geon, Wuque studio & tx films be recommended

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so i'd just pick whichever looks closest to the photo above/whatever u can get

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0.15mm seems to be a good size, but the difference between 0.125/0.15 is very small 😛

ashen smelt
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Never used films before

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Do they fix wobble or smth like that?

inland ocean
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check ur switches atm

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hold the bottom housing & wiggle the top

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it'll get rid of that play

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and... your likely to get less stem wobble too as a result

ashen smelt
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Cool

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I hate the wobble. That’s the only issue I’ve had

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With the feel at least

fluid ravine
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they both work well

inland ocean
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The reason I say go for 0.15 is just because on some of my switches

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i've needed as much as 0.175 to remove the play completely

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granted that was only for like 1 or 2 switches, and they had almost no movement with 0.15

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also tried 0.2 and I didn't like the way it felt snapping the top housing back on...

fluid ravine
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.15 it is

ashen smelt
fluid ravine
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im just in the shadows collecting and sharing data

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i will do more mods to my wooting but what i have done right now is hella a lot better than stock

inland ocean
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What have u done out of curiosity?

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Mines stock right now... got quite a bit of stuff arriving tomorrow so trying to get these films finished so I can spend the weekend modding😛

fluid ravine
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@inland ocean

fluid ravine
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have alot mods that i can think of doin to my keeb

inland ocean
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That sounds really nice....

fluid ravine
inland ocean
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Tempest mod (4 layers)
Tape Mod (around the Module 2 layers)

fluid ravine
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yeah

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that

inland ocean
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whats the differencewith tempest/tape mod? I thought it was the same thing

fluid ravine
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it is the same thing

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but this is the wooting we talking about here

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so we wrap tape around the module

inland ocean
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ohhhh u did 4 layers on the bottom of the PCB

fluid ravine
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it makes a pretty big difference

inland ocean
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and 2 layers wrapping up the side to the plate?

fluid ravine
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uh holdup

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i got a pic for u

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there

inland ocean
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Ah nice

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so 4 layers on the bottom

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2 on the side?

fluid ravine
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ye

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usually its 1 but i decided to do 2

inland ocean
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I really like the sound tbh 😄

fluid ravine
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thx

inland ocean
fluid ravine
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im gonna be suffering with the stock case though :_)

inland ocean
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then u can link it if someone asks 😉

fluid ravine
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:)

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oki

light drift
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is there a better way of removing switches from the board, apart from just pulling it out from the top? One of the clips one the side always becomes scuffed when i do that

inland ocean
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U can take apart the pcb/plate and they'll come out easier

fluid ravine
light drift
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oh, thanks. I'm guessing you just push the switches out from under?

fluid ravine
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makes the job easier

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oh nah

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switch puller

light drift
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aha

inland ocean
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watch this

fluid ravine
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i think that will like damage the clip of the switch

light drift
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tyty

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oh huh the PCB doesn't even lhave any resistance

inland ocean
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its timestamped to the switch removal part

honest dawn
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im between tx geon and cannonkeys films

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damn idk

light drift
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WS poron films worked for me

inland ocean
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Personally i'd go for Geon just because I saw Over Heaven say they were good 😄

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I think hes tried a few

fluid ravine
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geon

mental hemlock
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Yank it out

inland ocean
fluid ravine
mental hemlock
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They’re tight in there

fluid ravine
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dont mind me posting that here

honest dawn
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ill go for geon

fluid ravine
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s

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u

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i

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gyat damn

honest dawn
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25 DOLLAR SHIPPING?

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FOR GEON

fluid ravine
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WTF

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PFFT

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WHAT

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oh hell no

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gg

fluid ravine
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mods? :P

honest dawn
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swapped to bg60 case from ali, keycaps are gmk laser w/turbo+spacebar novelties, lubed switches and tape mod. fl cmmk stabs

fluid ravine
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mmm

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w

fluid ravine
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i cant stop looking at them

inland ocean
honest dawn
fluid ravine
inland ocean
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Thats where I got mine also justin 😄

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I ment, how are they

honest dawn
fluid ravine
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i might get it as well

honest dawn
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im kinda lazy rn

fluid ravine
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depending on its price

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better be under 100

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even though i have a big feeling its not

honest dawn
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i doubt under 100 since it has a brass weight and other upgrades

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im hoping for under 200

inland ocean
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@fluid ravine I ordered this in dark grey - waiting on delivery

inland ocean
fluid ravine
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tell me how it goes when u recieve :)

honest dawn
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that would be silly

river reef
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Thats re

inland ocean
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Yeah

river reef
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Rounded version

inland ocean
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Yeah, they have 2 versions

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the square and the rounded - the rounded version is their new revision

fluid ravine
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berry berry snowwy

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woaow

river reef
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But tofu redux looks good

honest dawn
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i need some wob keycaps

fluid ravine
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ong

honest dawn
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hopefully drop puts them on sale or smth

river reef
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Only if usb port is centered tho

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But somehow i doubt that

honest dawn
river reef
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Sold my tofu cos the usb port dont align properly

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All they had to do is make the usb hole bigger

honest dawn
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looks the same

fluid ravine
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is it just me or does my keys on the outside of the keeb (like esc 1234567890-=) sounds like plastic doodoo

fluid ravine
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burger mount

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in stock case

ashen smelt
fluid ravine
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and foam

ashen smelt
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They may make it bigger

river reef
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What size o ring did u use

fluid ravine
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uh

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i gotta find it now

river reef
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4x1x1.5?

fluid ravine
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its the one in badseedtech or keybored

river reef
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That whats usually recommended

fluid ravine
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vids

river reef
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I used 5x1.2x1.9

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And it makes sound a lot more uniform across the keys

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1.5 is too thin

river reef
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Yea 1.5mm

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Theres still sound dif with those

fluid ravine
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m

ashen smelt
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Any sound tests with films?

fluid ravine
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2 of my standoffs are damaged so-

river reef
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I got these

fluid ravine
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the 2 on the right

river reef
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The 5mm x 1.2x1.9

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It shouldnt matter

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Since its on top of o ring

fluid ravine
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it still bounce in some way

river reef
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Thats what mine sound like

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But film literally have nothing to do with it

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Nano gel tape tempest mod is the best

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Keebtape from keebmat does the same

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Except they charge you 10usd per sheet

fluid ravine
river reef
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It sounds better in person, i used my phone to record lol

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Much cheaper than keebtape

inland ocean
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I got ScotchBlue painters tape

fluid ravine
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my dad just bought me this frog tape

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idk

river reef
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Nah it sounds different

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I used 3m painter's tape before

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Just not the same

inland ocean
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seeing as that tape is waterproof/plasticky

fluid ravine
inland ocean
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I wonder how "good" it will be for the health of the PCB

fluid ravine
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my dad gave me this

fluid ravine
honest dawn
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i used electrical tape lmfao

fluid ravine
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do not want to end up like me :)

inland ocean
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u have a problem on urs @fluid ravine ?

river reef
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Will be fine

fluid ravine
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the seal on the pcb

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ripping off

inland ocean
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yeah but im not talking about the laquer

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the pcb will generate some amount of heat

river reef
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Yea

inland ocean
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using a plastic, non breathable tape

river reef
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Its fine

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Eh

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You know what painter's tape is suppose to do right

inland ocean
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Yes... paint is very thick liquid

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the tape itself is still slightly breathable

river reef
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Yea what makes that any different lmao

fluid ravine
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not like "bad" like as in should i use it

inland ocean
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plastic = seal

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papery tape = breath atleast some

fluid ravine
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cause i feel like its thin

inland ocean
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thats my concern 😄

river reef
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Also electronic parts can tolerate up to 100°C

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Some a lot more

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Thats how you solder it on in the first place

inland ocean
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I mean, that depends on the hardware in question

fluid ravine
river reef
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As long as its not shorted its fine

inland ocean
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frog tape is painters tape/masking tape

river reef
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Im an electronic engineer lol

fluid ravine
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umm so

inland ocean
#

and u think all electrical components are fine up to 100c?

fluid ravine
#

what tape sounds best :L

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lol

river reef
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Otherwise how do you solder it on

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Wave soldering machine temp is a lot higher

honest dawn
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my laptop keyboard gets to burning temps. dont know if that applies

river reef
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The thing about tempest mod was never about pcb overheat

honest dawn
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but should be a similar idea lmfao

inland ocean
#

well... thats a big issue when soldering by hand and the reason a lot of things are soldered by machine or with guarding/kapton tape

river reef
#

Its it shorts out when you use shit tape

honest dawn
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is electrical tape safe

river reef
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Since the glue degrade over tine

river reef
inland ocean
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I believe u that it won't be an issue

fluid ravine
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guys im starting to worried over nothing as in idfk what yall are talkinmg about

inland ocean
#

but im sure a lot of the components on the PCB would die before 100c 😛

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@fluid ravine theres nothing to worry about 😄

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chill

river reef
#

Just check the tolerance for all pcb components

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Nothing should break even at 100 constantly

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Solder need to be 220degrees to melt

#
KEEBMAT

Topre/HHKB/EC PCBs: See disclaimer below!KEEBTAPE consists of 1mm thick industrial use micro suction material divided into 15 individual pieces, from 1u single key pieces to one element covering a whole 60% PCB. It is a thick and heavy but very soft material that acts as a sound and vibration dampener.It is a great alt

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If u guys arent sure theres this too, but its literally just nano gel tape

ashen smelt
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Pretty fucking expensive for some tape

river reef
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I had to buy it to find out

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Yea

ashen smelt
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Nano gel huh

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Maybe I’ll buy some

river reef
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I could get a big roll of 3 for that price

ashen smelt
#

You got a brand recommendation?

river reef
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I mean they're literally the same thing

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So aliexpress or even local ones are fine

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But you want single sided ones

ashen smelt
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I’ll just grab one from Amazon

river reef
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Doubleside is a bit annoying

ashen smelt
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I can see how that’d be annoying lmao

river reef
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Yea like you can just not peel the other side

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But why bother

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Just get it right the first time

ashen smelt
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They’re all double sided lmfao

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Does it rlly matter?

river reef
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The one i linked is single sided

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I mean if u dont peel the other side its fine

ashen smelt
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Aliexpress shipping is ass

river reef
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Its basically just a really thick padding to dampen high pitch sound

inland ocean
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Alright... im done screwing with switch films 😄

river reef
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Get it as wide as possible

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I had 5cm ones

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And its like 2.8 strips to cover everything

river reef
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If anything reduce the slightest switch wobble

inland ocean
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Nah

river reef
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But then the stem of the switch also wobble hard

inland ocean
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on mine

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the top/bottom cap has a lot of play

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way less movement in the key with film

river reef
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Idk

inland ocean
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I've litterally spent the past few hours

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making a switch film

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and testing different thicknesses

river reef
#

But my stem still wobble so much

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I feel like its a waste of time

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Need box switch design

ashen smelt
#

Just make a new stem

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🙂

inland ocean
#

the majority of the play for me was between the top/bottom housing tbh

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i'd say theres like 50-70% less "stem" wobble

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and by stem wobble

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i mean wiggling the keycap with my finger

river reef
#

Do you have the 50g spring

ashen smelt
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I got the 50g

river reef
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If u do the wobble is a lot worse on stem

ashen smelt
#

The 60g springs are way too heavy

river reef
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Just not enough pressure

inland ocean
#

Stock spring

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60 right?

river reef
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Yea

inland ocean
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I dont remember im tired

river reef
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Have to buy the 50s separately

inland ocean
#

100 switch films coming up

river reef
#

How long does that take to print

inland ocean
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17min

ashen smelt
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Sell me a batch

river reef
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With tpu?

inland ocean
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PLA

ashen smelt
#

Don’t know what that is. Is that the material?

river reef
#

Hmm

inland ocean
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yeah

river reef
#

Do you mind share the file?

ashen smelt
#

Have you tested all of them? If they remove play by 50-70% I’d buy them from you

inland ocean
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Yeah I said I will share the STL

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but let me do my board first, hopefully tomorrow

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incase I decide to make some changes

river reef
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👍

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I used tx films but it still warp a little

inland ocean
#

if people dont have 3d printers I might print a few batches but im not really interested in the $

vernal siren
inland ocean
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Yeah the trouble is the legs either side

vernal siren
# vernal siren

Ignore the 5 yr old cable just needed it to be long enough for the pic 😂

inland ocean
#

normal switch films seem to be slightly oversized and the top housing catches

mental hemlock
#

Fix

inland ocean
#

but the leg/right leg for the stem housing

ashen smelt
inland ocean
#

makes it pretty hard to make a decent film tbh - these do flex a little as u put the top cap on, because the left/right ridge get rotated down 90 degree by the clips

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but then it all sits flush

ashen smelt
vernal siren
river reef
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Wtf lmao

mental hemlock
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Not a Wooting

river reef
#

Holee mod + bandaid at the pcb should fix it

mental hemlock
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Bet

hallow creek
#

anyone have a recommendation on a 60% keyboard case compatible with the wooting?

ashen smelt
#

Freebird60 is in pre order

mental hemlock
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Fjell, Klippe T, Salvation, PSD60

hallow creek
#

awesome thanks guys! I waitlisted for the tofu 60 redux. we don't have an estimate on it right

fluid ravine
mental hemlock
fluid ravine
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bandaid mod

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holee

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definitely bandaid mod

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jesus christ listenenin to deez keys on the outside of the wooting on my board is hell

ashen smelt
hallow creek
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lol true maybe I should just use stock case until then

glacial wind
#

The freebird60 are already at kfa from what I understand of their posts, just they have to sort everything and post previous orders which will take a month or so to clear up

hallow creek
#

I want to go all out on modding it, what mods do you recommend? I'm going to wait for the tofu 60 but besides that what else would you recommend?

hallow creek
#

I guess next month!

honest dawn
#

i found geon films on kfa marketplace

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you can avoid that 25 dollar shipping

icy pier
#

anyone bought gateron ks20 switches?

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its about same price lekker (usd 40 - cny 280) but thought better option for outside states, normally taobao shipping fee is less then wooting store

zealous kite
#

how would you guys add two actual joysticks to the keyboard?

sacred jay
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but not arrived yet

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there was someone else that got em and said they pretty much the same

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so if you want them then go ahead

river reef
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Yes its exactly the same except bottom of the switch is not translucent

icy pier
#

oh thanks, about to buy it with white color.
taobao gateron store says white one is with 30gf starting force

gloomy spire
#

If I wanna tape mod my wooting, what kind of tape should I be getting?

modern pulsar
#

if my coiled cable is in total 4.5 feet long I should be able to use it without issues right? I'm looking at the glorious coiled cable specifically.

bronze grove
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Total length or coiled up?
Any cable should work, though most will require reducing the RGB brightness some to compensate, if you want Tachyon enabled.

bronze grove
gloomy spire
bronze grove
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Sure.

gloomy spire
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It won’t like leave adhesive or anything right?

modern pulsar
bronze grove
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Yeah but that doesn't uncoiled necessarily.

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It can mean "so we measured the length of the cable laid out" not stretched

bronze grove
gloomy spire
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Okok

upbeat delta
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There's an orange ks20 as well apparently, so 60he actually has a couple of switch options at this point (all just being different looks/springs)

ashen smelt
upbeat delta
river reef
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If theres different color I would get June

sacred jay
shrewd sun
upbeat delta
shrewd sun
upbeat delta
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Here

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But my board is fully modded, all foam replaced with something different, different plate etc

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So it will sound different still

shrewd sun
#

peepoPopcorn very cool, once I get sick of the wide edges on my BBOX60 I might grab one

icy pier
icy pier
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i didnt checked out official gateron spec sheets and just seeing on taobao's product options, so maybe i'm (or store) wrong :>

upbeat delta
ashen smelt
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They are hard to come by online lmao

upbeat delta
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However hibi already has it's next gh60 case in the works, namely hibi hero

upbeat delta
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Hibi.mx on insta shares people's June builds regularly

lethal sapphire
#

what keycap set is that?

upbeat delta
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Pbtfans rim

lethal sapphire
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yakiniku 🤤

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might suss it out haha ty

ashen smelt
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Think the monster fuzz case might look fancy with my keycaps

upbeat delta
austere creek
fickle vector
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@gentle silo I just compared the Wuque films to the geon films, and I can tell the difference in person definitely lol

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With just clicking the switches (not installed or with keycaps), it feels like the Wuque ones have a slightly more muted sound, but with a higher pitched click, while the geon ones are not as muted, but sound cleaner

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Also felt like the Geon ones were slightly easier to apply

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But you'll fiddle a bit with both

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I guess you can use this to your advantage if you really wanna shoot for a specific sound profile

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Either way both of them work when it comes to reducing housing rattle, the difference is pretty small. But there is a slight difference

gentle silo
fickle vector
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Amplified? Wouldn't it be reduced?

dry wigeon
#

I saw in the website somewhere that Wooting does not recommend to change the cable, but I saw people having done it and the keyboard works perfectly. Is there one cable in particular to avoid? Or can I use any cable? I may need between 2 and 3m to have it properly passed behind my desk.

fickle vector
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They can't recommend it because of quality issues with some cables. Basically, the longer the cable, the harder it is to transfer enough power to have tachyon mode and full RGB brightness

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What some people do instead is that they reduce the RGB to 70%, or 50%

bronze grove
# dry wigeon I saw in the website somewhere that Wooting does not recommend to change the cab...

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We don't specifically recommend that you use ours, only warn that third party cables CAN have issues. And to compare with the stock cable to see if there's a cable based issue.

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dry wigeon
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it's only with coiled cables? If I use a straight one, no or less change to have an issue?

bronze grove
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Ultimately it's just a question of trial and error.

fickle vector
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The geon fken thocks wtf

dry wigeon
#

And so what would be the best brand to get a top quality cable for our Wooting 60HE? 😬

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CableMod good enough?

gentle silo
raw ledge
#

so little and heavy 🙏🏼

dusk mauve
#

Question: Other than this being gasket mount, does anyone see any issue why this wouldn't accept the Wooting? https://keyspensory.store/products/instock-cmm-studio-isabell-60

Keyspensory

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normal schooner
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lmaooo i have the same cable

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40 eur alternate cable

bronze grove
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Also these need to go.

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So... lots of Dremel.

dusk mauve
#

It takes GH60 PCBs, and the blockers are removable

gentle silo
bronze grove
#

Ah if they can be removed that's no problem. USB could still be an issue simply due to the fact that you need to make a plate.

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Can't just grab one and use it for the 60HE.

dusk mauve
#

Thinking of not using the gaskets, just hard foam to make it the right height, then using an O-ring to hold in place?

gentle silo
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„Reverse engenering“ the gasket parts onto the wooting plate file shouldn’t be to hard if you have the original plate in hand

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Im gonna do the same thing in my sangeo60 got a plate beeing fabed rn

cold echo
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how needed is lubing the switches? adding lube and tools to my order is delaying 3 weeks longer due to them being ready at seperate times. Im about to ask for seperate shipping becauwse I dont want to wait for the whole order to be ready lmao

bronze grove
#

I don't regret it for a second personally. But I also use my board as a daily driver for work as well as gaming.

cold echo
#

Im gonna conatact support and just see if I can have them ship seperate

bronze grove
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We would need to create a custom spare parts order. We do stock stock these at the warehouses. 🙂

tepid tangle
#

I am already pretty satisfied with the sound of the 60he, so I'm wondering if the tape mod would be worth it regardless, just because I have heard so much about it by now

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I'm very new to mechanical keebs and modding in general, the wooting is my first hotswappable keyboard

cold echo
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tbf tape mod would take like 15 minutes and is easil;y undoable

tepid tangle
#

Does it have to be Masking Tape? I currently only have Gaffa at home T_T

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Because if so then I'd need to wait anyway

cold echo
#

different tapes will probs have different effects

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is gaffa the canvas-y tape?

tepid tangle
#

I see, I have seen most people use what I think was isolation tape, stuff you'd use to fix cables

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Nah, Gaffa is the 'fixates everything' tape that is used in conjunction with wd40 a lot haha

cold echo
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ahhh, im thinking gaff tape

tepid tangle
#

German nomers for these kinds of tapes dont really translate well into english

cold echo
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gaffer's tape

tepid tangle
#

The grey fixation tape is called 'tank tape' when translated literally

cold echo
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i think a supposed benefit of masking tape or painter tape is that its got less adhesive so it wouldnt ever gunk up your board and be easy to remove

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but im no expert

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i put electrical tape and some foam in my akko keeb

tepid tangle
#

Thats what I was thinking too

cold echo
#

did well enough for me

tepid tangle
#

Aaah, electrical trape

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That's the term I was looking for. I don't have any of that nearby unfortunately but that would be my number 1 choice for dampening I guess

cold echo
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i think its supposed to absorb vibrations at the end of the day

tepid tangle
#

Then I guess some of the sound is already better becaue I'm on a deskpad anyway

austere creek
tepid tangle
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DUCT TAPE, see I got a bit of a problem with these translation dogekek

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Where is my English when I need it most, hah

austere creek
#

although the official name is smth along webbed tape

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PE-beschichtetes Gewebeband

tepid tangle
#

Never heard it be called that before actually

upbeat delta
austere creek
tepid tangle
#

Thats fair. I will wait until next week when I can get a big roll up electrical tape

upbeat delta
#

Some cheaper glues turn into goo if given the time and heat (from the LEDs )

upbeat delta
tepid tangle
#

I will look around for it at my local Bauhaus then

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Tesa is bound to have an alternative too if I don't find the 3M original

upbeat delta
#

I doubt Bauhaus (or any of the German hardware stores) have scotch

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But maybe Tesa is good too, i was just told to stay clear of the super cheap Chinese stuff

tepid tangle
#

I also mostly remember UHU and Tesa at my hardware store

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Can't hurt to try, electrical tape is pretty thankful to remove if things go awry

obsidian dagger
#

kapton tape would be interesting

upbeat delta
obsidian dagger
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nice

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snacc instead of thocc

tepid tangle
#

I dont know if I should be amused or terrified at that aspect

upbeat delta
#

Preferably both ?

tepid tangle
#

Sounds reasonable. dogekek

tiny lion
#

Wich one are this cable

raw ledge
tiny lion
#

Can you put the link please how long are the cable?

inland ocean
#

I really dont get the whole coiled cable appeal 😄

#

there's no benefit right? Wasn't sure if the aviator connector most have is actually useful or something

fervent osprey
#

Same, I hate the idea of having spare cable just hanging there on display for no reason dogekek

gentle silo
remote dove
#

Anyone know if a pcb swap is possible for the 60he to the ducky one 3 mini?

glacial wind
#

It’s kind of why straight cables became the trend lately, they look a bit fancy with the quick disconnect without having the coils taking up room

mental hemlock
#

Full black everything

gentle silo
mental hemlock
#

Prolly meant case

gentle silo
#

might be, should fit in that case

wispy rapids
bronze grove
#

I don't have them, so I can't say that.

wispy rapids
#

hm...

nimble solar
#

@wraith ice

wraith ice
placid blaze
#

put a layer or two of painter's tape on first

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then it's suuuuper easy to take off

upbeat delta
#

Scotch 33+

nimble solar
#

mad that one keycap didn't get it

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the white keycap I have on it, didn't come with it

placid blaze
#

my go-to is 2 layers of painter's tape followed by 3 layers of electrical tape and I never have issues removing it only because of the painter's tape applications

#

(the numbers are arbitrary)

upbeat delta
#

Did it make a meaningful difference in sound beyond 2 layers ?

placid blaze
#

I honestly couldn't tell you, I just arbitrarily chose 2 and 3 layers

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I can only imagine that more layers would realistically help but there'll be diminishing returns starting from 1 layer of any given material

wraith ice
#

It should have come with a 1.75u shift I think.

wraith ice
nimble solar
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which sucks

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I'm not tripping, I don't even use that shift

wraith ice
#

Ok. Interesting. Maybe worth it to reach out to omnitype about it. (If you want to). It’s definitely supposed to fit.

tacit vault
#

i would like to paint my two HE like you mentioned, is there a specific way to do so, or a guide? or how would you go about it?

bronze grove
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tacit vault
#

ah, i actually saw this video, i just wanted to be sure there wasnt something specific to do for wooting keyboards. thanks

placid blaze
#

with the Wooting you might want to take the PCB out first

novel plank
#

Went to an Amazon Liquidation store that was near by today, found these good looking keycaps sitting there for 1$. Just had to pick them up to see what they looked like

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Not to bad if you ask me

elder grail
#

i think i got the same ones but in black

novel plank
#

They were Ranked branded V1 Pudding Keycaps

elder grail
#

nice i just got the OEM branded ones of aliexpress

novel plank
#

Its hard to see with the lighting on but they were a nice shade of light blue

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I think it goes well with the keyboard, except the yellow strap which I will probably buy the new Take Control keycap set in the future

elder grail
#

nice how do they sound? the ones from aliexpress def sound cheaper then the stock wooting ones. not bad just liek a higher pitch

novel plank
#

They sound kinda cheap, reminds me of when I had my HyperX Alloy Origins Core with their pudding keycaps

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would like a little more THONK

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Then again I havent gotten around to lubing my keyboard yet so you can really hear the stabilizers

bold frigate
elder grail
#

super new to this but they sound pretty good to me

fervent osprey
#

I’m not sure about the switches but oh boy does the spacebar need some lubing haha

bold frigate
#

Yea I didnt do the stabilizers

novel plank
#

v ssssddddjjjjjj

#

OOOF

#

I didnt mean to do that lol

bold frigate
#

Mine sounded about the same before lubing it

elder grail
#

so what im hearing is i need to bust the lube out lol

novel plank
#

yes

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once I lube this one it will be my first of lube job

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not looking forward to the pain of lubing 60 switches

elder grail
#

same here, totally procrasting though. had my case and keycaps for like two weeks before i did them

novel plank
#

lol, I too am a cronic procrastinator

elder grail
#

ill eventually take a video of mine of the way those keycaps sound in the zt60 case from aliexpress

novel plank
#

I should also maybe look into getting a new case for mine, I miss the aluminium case from my old keeb

elder grail
#

its so nice. first aluminium case for. i upgraded from a blackwidow v3 pro so this is like night and day

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for me*

novel plank
#

I like the heft an alu case gives to a keyboard

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doesnt make me feel like im slinging around a toy when I move the thing

elder grail
#

fr, feels like it glued to my desk. its about 4lbs, the one i have.

novel plank
#

dang

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thats one heavy keyboard

elder grail
#

it said how heavy it was on the product page so i dont know why it was so suprising to me lol

novel plank
#

my gosh, its gonna be a minute before I get a new case

#

The funds are not available

#

I wonder if Kit Adam would be a compatible case??

#

Its a case made of LEGOs

elder grail
#

thats pretty sweet. i bet it can sound real thocky too.

fluid ravine
#

it suppose to sound like that when just lubed

#

mines still a little bit chattery but its sound more solid than stock

#

man i gotta get some lube, films, and case for my keeb im suffering

dreamy gulch
#

Anyone using freebird case? Is additional foam needed ?

hallow creek
#

Anyone know if this case is compatible and if so is this a good keyboard case? https://www.yunzii.com/products/yunzii-x-star-zt60-custom-cnc-aluminum-mechanical-keyboard-kit?variant=44377753026802

foggy light
#

Hi all, newbie here and I love my 60HE, can someone point me to TLDR or some article about the new switches about to be released by wooting ? Compared to to the keys in in my 60HE ?

obsidian dagger
#

lighter springs

#

thats it

thorny vortex
#

Help..
I am lubing my stabilizers. (followed the wooting turtorial)..
Now my key is looked just in a pressed position... cant be pushed..

I tried once I had not done anything with, and tried to put it back on the board, and same problem..

what did i do wrong?

(i have put the sting underneath and click it in place..)

lost merlin
lost merlin
#

other than that you might have overlubed

lost merlin
river reef
lost merlin
#

thats what i meant

thorny vortex
#

I thought the same... But I only lubed one, two others never left the housing. I just pulled them out of the board and back in again, and the same happens with them 🥺

lost merlin
#

are you putting them in the correct way?

river reef
#

Sometimes its the wire didnt get clip back properly

lean dove
#
river reef
#

Yes it will fit

river reef
#

I can see its tilted to the side

shell geode
# thorny vortex

Did you pull out the wire from the stabilizer housing during the lubing process?

river reef
#

But also take picture of it remove the keycap too

thorny vortex
#

Ehm that was werid with one hand sorry

river reef
#

Ok i see one issue immediately

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When it doesnt come back up

#

Have you tried putting the switch in

#

Cos thats the thing that bounce it back up

thorny vortex
#

😂

#

omg lol, this is way u dont stay up all night and do this

river reef
#

Might be obvious but i have to make sure

thorny vortex
#

I am a modding vergin, but THAT is kinda funny 😂

thorny vortex
river reef
#

Alg

lean dove
drifting topaz
#

any update on when the wooting plate is coming out

bronze grove
#

Wooting...plate?

#

We've got an aluminum case and the 60 module variant. No "just a switch plate" product.

drifting topaz
#

sorry its late i meant the aluminum case

bronze grove
#

By August if all goes well.

coral gorge
#

Has someone bought this?? What is the difference between that plate n the one that comes with the kb??

#

Ight thanks

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It’s my first mechanical kb n there are so many mods lool

inland ocean
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Think i'm finally happy with the switch film i've been making for the lekker switch in my free time

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Initial draft:

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Then the latest version I just made the "wings" a bit wider
And made the "chin" at the bottom the whole way across, so it could be symmetrical & add rigidity

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Not a great pic since its white on white 😄

scarlet delta
# inland ocean

looks awesome, how does this effect stem wobble and sound? i've never seen a plastic switch film being used before

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it's made from PLA - theres also the potential to make from TPU, the sound profiles would be difference with each.
I'll be doing my whole board later today - tested a few switches and will go with 0.17mm thickness

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the wobble between the bottom/top housing is completely gone, and as a result the stem wobble is reduced but there will always be some play there

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Theres a company that makes switch films out of the same material

scarlet delta
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oh damn, will u be releasing the file or selling them in the future? the stem wobble is the main thing that bugs me about my wooting lol

inland ocean
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I'll release the file once i've made sure im happy with it on my board - hopefully later today

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if someone wants some made I might make some

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Wonder if this will fit the new gateron switches, havn't looked at their design

fervent osprey
inland ocean
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England

fervent osprey
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That sucks, it’d have to go through customs

inland ocean
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What country are u in?

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what case do u guys recommend for 60he ? klippe-t or tofu60

fervent osprey
inland ocean
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U won't get a tofu until the redux release

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Customs charges are based on value of parcel/commercial products - could just send as a letter

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black and white

inland ocean
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Oh nice

patent arrow
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just wondering which one is better

inland ocean
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they're pretty similar cases "better" is just gona be down to your preference

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Want a heavy keyboard? the tofu has a battery cut-out u could put some weights in

fervent osprey
inland ocean
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Wow, I didn't know that 😄

gentle silo
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Finally also got ther FL CMMK V3 stabs. For anyone here is what the modifyers sound like now

inland ocean
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wow 💦

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mine just turned up 🙂

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What do u guys use to record audio on PC btw?

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for KB sound tests etc

inland ocean
fervent osprey
# inland ocean Wow, I didn't know that 😄

I just read more into it and there might still be “some” exceptions, but every site says something different haha. But this could be easily sent as a letter and that basically solves everything.

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On PC I use audacity.

inland ocean
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Yeah thought that'd be what most people was using, ty

mental hemlock
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river reef
mental hemlock
inland ocean
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200EUR?

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Now I see why they are in stock 😄

mental hemlock
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What currency is that

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inland ocean
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oh I think its more than just a case

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its turkey based website

fervent osprey
inland ocean
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yeah but thats not in turkish lira

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140 eur for my currency