🔧│keyboard_modding

[spare pilot]

Aight cool, I’ll just not use it then

[noble harness]

Yup totally understand I had to get pbtfans ones as well lol. Just thought they were kinda cool

[minor canyon]

does anyone recommend any foam for switching to an aluminum case?

[fickle vector]

Kilmat?

[minor canyon]

ou that’s interesting going to research that

[fickle vector]

I am personally going to see how cork sounds first, and then maybe kilmat the case

[remote tartan]

anyone got any recommendations for cases that are aluminium, black and like the tofu 60s?

actually ignore this ima look at the wooting case compatibility

[spare pilot]

My Wooting 60HE in a Mekanisk Klippe T Black case with Wooting PBT White Keycaps, turned out pretty good 👍

[spare pilot]

I just installed mine in a Mekanisk Klippe T, really like this case a little pricey tho

[untold wigeon]

yeah it is expensive

its why i just got a psd 60 instead

waiting for it to arrive

[minor canyon]

psd60 best bang for buck

[manic plume]

@spare pilot how long did it take to get to you?

[stiff solar]

Hard to find pink 60% cases that I like

[spare pilot]

I ordered it on the 31st of May and it arrived this morning

I thought I was gonna have to wait a lot longer tbh

[agile shell]

Finally got my wooting

[manic plume]

@spare pilot not bad

I ordered a red one still waiting for it

[ashen vessel]

https://www.amazon.com/Mechkeeb-120pcs-Switch-Hotswappable-Soldered/dp/B0BVDL3BNT/ref=sr_1_5?crid=AK5MNK09Y5AL&keywords=keyboard%2Bswitch%2Bpads&qid=1685989668&sprefix=keybaord%2Bswitch%2Bpads%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-5&th=1

okay sorry if this is an obvious question, but my friend uses this for his keyboard mods but he doesnt have a wooting, would these work for a wooting

[light drift]

I don't think they would, since it will change the distance between the magnet and the sensor. Someone feel free to correct me though

[ashen vessel]

yea thats what i was thinking

[random haven]

Any major differences in hand between the Klippel T and PSD60? I have the PSD60 I just received. Still waiting on my Wooting. Wondering if it's worth swapping up to the Klippe?

[light drift]

I was also debating this (just got my psd60 today lol)

[random haven]

Yeah I just got mine on Saturday! Haha

[remote tartan]

thankyou!! i’ll go check it out

[wind turtle]

is it better to order the psd60 on aliexpress or kprepublic? also for anyone who has gotten one, how long was the shipping generally?

[random haven]

I ordered mine 5/19 and received it 6/3

If you're looking for a gray one I may sell you mine rather than return it. Still not sure if I'm going to order a Klippe T instead. No pressure, just saying

[wind turtle]

im intrigued, but im torn between a black or dark gray case lol

is the gray like more silver in color or more like a space gray from apple

[light drift]

i accidentally bought the silver psd60

my dumbass thought it was white

[random haven]

Definitely more space gray. Honestly I'd say it's pretty similar to that. The stock photo on AliExpress does it pretty decent justice. If I can find a gray Klippe T on mechmarket or something I'd probably do it.

The case seems really nice honestly. I have a black KBDfans D65 and it's not crazy far off. The D65 is heavier due to the brass, but it's not crazy different. Comes down to how particular you are

[wind turtle]

it happens haha

[light drift]

i mean it looks alright

just a bit raw for my tastes

[wind turtle]

im still sitting on which color to get so its all good. the space gray looks clean, but i feel like black would go with anything

[random haven]

Yeah I don't disagree. Comes down to your build. If you don't have a keycap set picked out black is likely safer. I went with GMK Nines and I think the gray will pair great. Why I'm leaning that way

[wind turtle]

i saw someone on here made a custom brass fitting for that battery cutout from a brass bar stock and i was considering doing that to add some more weight

^on a psd60 im pretty sure

[random haven]

Also have an all E-White board with GMK Minimal 2 and matching cable for work. Awesome board.

Whether you buy it from me or not, I'll try to get a shot of mine in decent lighting to show you the gray tomorrow.

That way you can see it in person

[wind turtle]

sounds good. i appreciate the lookout

[random haven]

Of course! Do you know what keycaps/aesthetic you're going for?

[wind turtle]

not sure yet. kinda new to modding, but the keyboard from optimum tech has always been at the back of my mind

i think its a dark gray tofu60 with a black blank set from epbt

[sacred jay]

it affects analog range by just a little bit

[random haven]

Yeah I ordered that exact set of keycaps and the gray case because of his video! Haha. Returning the caps since I found the nines and I am used to GMK. They're beautiful though!

[ashen vessel]

ah okay, so ill probably be just fine since i dont use the analog stuff, thanks

[random haven]

Have those if you want a picture as well

[sacred jay]

i gotta press down hard to actuate a 4.0 but it works 100%

[wind turtle]

i think optimum tech captures the keycaps pretty well. thanks tho. just gotta look around to decide between black or gray case

[mental hemlock]

i love blanks pllease show me a picture of them

@random haven @wind turtle

[random haven]

Sure thing! They're not on a board, but I'll grab a pic tomorrow of both and post them here for you guys!

[fluid ravine]

it works fine

doesnt affect the distance of the pcb and the switch

[fluid ravine]

if you worry about it affecting the distance of the magnet and sensor (which doesnt) you can use normal switch pads

[ashen vessel]

ah okay, good to know, im still pretty new to kb modding but will certainly use pe switch pads in that case

[fluid ravine]

alright have fun with the hobby!

[light drift]

wait so the pads go under the socket?

[fluid ravine]

under the switch

[ashen vessel]

from the videos i saw you take out the switches and put a pad underneath for each key on the pcb

[light drift]

wouldn't that change the key height

[fluid ravine]

no

[light drift]

or does auto calibration take care of that

[fluid ravine]

mmm no

[light drift]

am confused

[fluid ravine]

the wooting pcb needs a precise distance for the sensor and the magnet

but when the switch sits on the plate it has space between the pcb and switch

if you add the switch pad it doesnt affect the sensor at all
all it does is make the sound profile a touch cleaner

[light drift]

i see

[fluid ravine]

ya

[fluid ravine]

here btw this is where it shuold be placed

[light drift]

what material would you recommend i test?

[fluid ravine]

honestly i dont really know as i havent tested it yet

but what i do know is that the Poron 83 shore, 00 has a medium soft hardness as the 35 shore is soft

i will do my research on what material is better so i shall be right back

ok honestly i dont have a answer to which one you should test sooooo
gotta choose one ig

[gentle silo]

Yes they work, had them in my wooting aswell, no issues with Hall effect either

[gentle silo]

Doesn’t really matter as they don’t affect the sound that much. But generally denser foam = more clack / less denser foam = more thock

[fluid ravine]

you know whats funny
the fact that i thought they were talking about the tri pods

🤣

man im blind

[gentle silo]

I’d still go with poron, makes the sound cleaner

[wispy rapids]

has anyone here ordered the aliexpress replicas of these? https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5790

I can't seem to find this set on aliexpress which is why im asking :\

but it also seems like they are using 2 different keycap sets on these imags

unless their 108 keycap is purposely different

or they're actually using 3 different keycap sets

[gentle silo]

tbh doesnt really make a difference what pudding keycaps you get at the end as long as they are not ABS.

[gentle silo]

whats the difference here?

[wispy rapids]

yeah i understand the're functionally the same and i was about to go buy the hyperx pudding keycaps for 15 dollars until i noticed that this ducky set has the pudding like a frosted white color and the legends are a bit cleaner

the bottom keyboard is 100% and the top keyboard is like 75% i think

[gentle silo]

thats probably just the angle, looks the same to me. Or maybe some extra key for compatibility.

[wispy rapids]

i dont know what keycaps to expect to get when buying this lmao, there's 108 keys in the package but the 60% and 100/70% have the different caps lock key

i thought it was the angle too until i looked at the other pics and the transparent circle is missing

[gentle silo]

i guess as ducky also offers 60% keyboard their keyap kit would also support that layout

[wispy rapids]

yeah i'd imagine its compatiable across all the %'s its just weird they're using different keycaps in the pictures for selling a full set of 108 keycaps

[gentle silo]

yea i also noticed this, idk maybe some prototype keycaps where used for the prduct pics

[gentle silo]

yes, this doesnt effect compatibility tho, the wooting has a standard layout with no irregular sized keys, basically every kit should fit no problem

[wispy rapids]

maybe its the third party website and they mixed some images up

my main point of contention was the legends :V

lol there's actually another set of different keycaps in the images

yeah i think this is a problem with the site

some funny business going on here

unless they toss in like 5 extra different specific keys i have no idea

[gentle silo]

this is for iso compatibility there is ANSI and ISO, most keycap set come with both.

its vairly common for keycap sets to include stuff like different sized modifiers, non standard bottom row support (as most gaming brand keyboard didnt support the standard layout) and ISO enter Support.

[wispy rapids]

ooh

[thick mural]

anyone know if the wooting pcb is 1.2mm or 1.6mm thick?

[gentle silo]

most likely 1.6mm to counteract flex

(thats a guess btw) I can measure it when im at home.

[thick mural]

yeah that's my guess too

just checking because im buying some screw in stabs now for the new module

im also gonna fab my own plate

[gentle silo]

yea, pretty hyped for the new module, def gonna get one aswell. Already did a custom plate on mine. Carefull tho the dxf they have on their github doesnt really work if you plan to use m2 standoffs

i hope the modul will not be to expensive, but my guess would be like 80€

[thick mural]

already have that sorted

[dark saddle]

Module costs as much as the prebuilts

[thick mural]

have another spare steel plate coming already

[gentle silo]

this wouldnt make any sense why would just the pcb cost the same a whole keyboard with switches and stuff. You got a source?

[gentle silo]

what material are you gonna use? i kinda want to try a brass palte on mine

[thick mural]

copper

but i might make one in brass too

[gentle silo]

was also thinking about copper but all those plates are so expensive

[fickle vector]

Where my tungsten people at?

[gentle silo]

tungsten keyboard case when?

[fickle vector]

If my keyboard doesn't dent the table, I don't want it

[gentle silo]

tungsten case with nutrino star weight

[fickle vector]

Needs to be heavier than my full tower PC so I have an excuse to avoid those pesky LAN parties

[gentle silo]

if it aint got its own gravitational pull i dont want it

[fickle vector]

But honestly I would be very interested in seeing someone make a Tungsten case

Wonder what sound profile something so heavy would have

Maybe none at all, literally can't vibrate

[gentle silo]

idk only one way to find out

[fickle vector]

That's what I mean!

We have to pitch this idea to several keyboard YouTubers

One of them might be crazy enough to do it

[gentle silo]

thats something glarses would do ngl

[fickle vector]

Then we need to get in touch with him

[nocturne crow]

Hello guys, i will be getting my wooting next week, do u guys recommend sth I should definently upgrade ? (stabalizers, case, lube switches etc)

[gentle silo]

i will actually start commenting this under his vides ngl

[fickle vector]

I will start watching him just to comment it too

[gentle silo]

lubing switches imo, made the biggest difference so far. maybe an aftermarket aluminium case

[fickle vector]

It also depends on what kind of feel and sound you want out of your wooting

Try it as it is out of the box, then start modifying if you feel like it could be better

[gentle silo]

tungston case for the feeling of superiority

[fickle vector]

But lubed switches is basically an objectively superior experience

[nocturne crow]

thanks , can u recommend where i can get cases in europe ? seems a lot of sold out

I'll definently lube them, hope the sound is good 😄 ( currently on gateron cj switches)

[gentle silo]

aliexpress for example, stuff like the psd60 is in stock pretty regularly, but as @fickle vector siad, start out slow and only upgrade stuff if you think its could be better

[gentle silo]

mekansik klippe t would be another contender

[fickle vector]

I'm getting a case, lubing switches, and then I'll see whether that's enough. I have a feeling I'll end up kilmatting the case as well as some other smaller mods

[gentle silo]

i actually reverted alot of mods on my wooting, only tape mod and lubed swicthes in a salvation. No case foam or stuff anymore

[nocturne crow]

looks great but 205 dollar for a case is kinda harsh (incl shipping)

[gentle silo]

yea shipping and tax can screw you over...

[fickle vector]

I want a very muted and not clacky sound so I'll end up doing heavy modding I reckon

[gentle silo]

then its either down to aliexpress instock stuff or second hand market

[nocturne crow]

any places for 2nd hand market ? . @fickle vector same for me probly 😄

[fickle vector]

2nd hand should have some options actually. Make sure you check for compatibility in the data sheet they have here

[gentle silo]

im in for the exact opposit, switch pads and plate films helped alot wth the muted sound

[gentle silo]

r/mechamrket on reddit. Stuff like the old tofu60, klippe t, blade60 and stuff. + you save yourself a lot of shipping if someone in your country/state has something to offer. Might be also worth checking out you local listings on craiglist, kleinanzeigen, fb marketplace or whatever gets used where you live.

[gentle silo]

what case are you getting?

[fickle vector]

Basically I saw a case that would fit right into the theme I'm going for in my gaming room, but found out that the group buy had ended and they weren't made anymore. But since it was a small business I decided to reach out to them, and they said they would make a one-off for me

It just shipped a few days ago

It's from Brazen Studios

[gentle silo]

is it one of the stone cases? they look pretty good, polly have a very unique sound aswell

or the metal ones?

[fickle vector]

The metal ones

I got the antique brass one

[gentle silo]

looks good, the one with the hammer texutes is also very sick. It has a stone base aswell from what ive read?

ill be definetly on the lookout if you decide to poste a sound test

[fickle vector]

The one I got is resin mixed with brass iirc

I believe they use some weird techniques to coat the thing in the material

[gentle silo]

says stone core

[fickle vector]

Yeaaaa

[gentle silo]

yea definetly very intersting

[fickle vector]

It's quite a time consuming technique too

[gentle silo]

may i ask what this case costs

[fickle vector]

It took them 3 weeks to make mine I think lol

[gentle silo]

geez, thats a lot of work

[fickle vector]

I believe shipping was another 30

It shipped from Hong Kong

[gentle silo]

expected quiet a bit more for such a lengthy process, not bad

[fickle vector]

Yeah that's what I thought too lol

Anyway the tax duties are probably gonna make it cost as much as you'd think

[gentle silo]

VAT incoming lol

[twin field]

Where do you find all these studios doing these group buys for cases etc?

[fickle vector]

I went looking for brass cases and saw a bunch of uninteresting ones until I stumbled across Brazen Studios on page 6 on a search

[gentle silo]

reddit, geekhack, youtube i guess

[fickle vector]

Quite coincidental I'd say

[twin field]

Ah so a lot of digging 😂

[fickle vector]

Yea

I knew what I wanted, so finding it was just a matter of time

Or I'd have to find something else to want

[gentle silo]

often they are promoted on discord serves only so yea a lot of digging requierd, especially for smaller projects liek this

[twin field]

I really wanted the baldr 60% frosted glass case just they don’t have any plans on doing it in 60% again

[gentle silo]

you can try posting on r/mechmarket maybe someone is willing to sell theirs

[twin field]

Alrighty lemme check it out thanks!

[warm jewel]

what kind of key-caps fit on this keyboard? I'm super new to keyboard modding so sorry for the total noob question. I get mixed info on reddit and other sites and want to be sure before i order something

[void abyss]

You can use any keycaps that are "Cherry MX (stem)" compatible

[marble shuttle]

https://www.hepsiburada.com/3m-mavi-bant-25mm-mavi-maskeleme-banti-50-mt-pm-outburc18287 is this ok for tape moding ?

Or i have this

[gentle silo]

basically any painters or masking tape will work

[real meadow]

so... can i buy strictly the wooting internals to stick into a custom case and etc. or do i need to buy the entire wooting and have the body and stuff collecting dust on a shelf once i put it in a new body

[bronze grove]

You can buy a 60HE without a case or keycaps soon. (By August)

We call this the "module".

(There will also be a separate, alu case from us around the same time)

[real meadow]

thank you for the answer I appreciate it!

[nocturne crow]

are there any pricings yet for the "module" ? sounds like a good offer

[shell raft]

ahhhh D:, my akko keycaps are here, finally, and it turned out they send me wrong version 😦 I mean its the same set, but different language version, I ordered japansese, they send me traditional chinese, overall that wouldnt be an issue because i will buy more keycap sets anyway, most with hiragana/katakana, but this entire set is japanese style :/ https://en.akkogear.com/product/world-tour-tokyo-r2-multi-language-se-185-key/ what should I do? return it or not? i was waiting 3 weeks and quality is actually very good

[bronze grove]

Price will be very similar to the regular 60HE.

The module however comes with a PC plate and support for SOME screw in stabilizers. So you're kind of getting some added benefits in exchange for the case.

[stiff solar]

I was looking at this company, you have yours or its being made?

[thick mural]

i tried this months ago

no luck since i couldnt find anywhere to make it for me

and it wouldve been pretty expensive

[void abyss]

Is there also a price range for the case?

[bronze grove]

TBA.

[gentle silo]

will there be nay other plates available with the module like brass or cf? And are the stabs included or only support for them?

[bronze grove]

Other plates? Not from us.

We include stabilizers.

[gentle silo]

does the module also come with switches?

[bronze grove]

Yes.

Just no case or keycaps.

[gentle silo]

ok, will there also be like a version without switches

[bronze grove]

[shell raft]

what about selling it just as a bundle? like u have to choose box of switches?

[loud escarp]

Can you tell me how to make the _(underbar) appear?

[bronze grove]

You hold shift and tap - ?

At least that's how we do it here in Scandinavia.

Next to comma and the punctuation mark.

[glossy pagoda]

Between the 0 and the = for the superior ANSI users

[bronze grove]

[gentle silo]

just pcb + plate + stabs

[viscid silo]

barebones kit is so swaggin

[gentle silo]

indeed very drippy swag

[loud escarp]

Thank you very much. I changed from Japanese layout to English layout and I got underbar. It seems that it does not appear in the Japanese layout setting.

[bronze grove]

Oh I'm sure it's somewhere.

But the Japanese use IME right? The sound based typing system where you combine them to produce kanji?

[loud escarp]

It did not seem to be supported in Japanese.
It is okay, as you will get used to it with the US layout!

[void abyss]

What's the point of this?

[gentle silo]

I already got a wooting only need the pcb, plat and stabs…

[marble shuttle]

3 layers of tape mode means are we putting same position tape 3 times right ?

[bronze grove]

I don't believe so, no.

L45 is strictly an UwU inclusion. Gotta aftermarket that yourself so to speak, through switch boxes.

[gentle silo]

yea

[thick mural]

@fair pendant thanks for the reco

[normal schooner]

v #1 wootings salesman

[fossil vale]

Looking for a good case any suggestion ?

[autumn creek]

It's already a niche product with the switches included, just a guess but I highly doubt it will get sold without the switches

[thick mural]

i dont think price would be that much cheaper either

and having more switches is better

[shell geode]

And now we wait

[fiery oxide]

this wouldnt make sense because the board only really works with their switches and vice versa... It would be nice if the switches where just not installed and we could pick which springs we wanted in the switches (L45 or L60)

[austere creek]

yes in windows

[shell geode]

You should check out the Wootstations channel and see if you like any of the custom builds we've done

[reef bramble]

Clean

[agile latch]

I have a pink coiled cable but I’m scared to sacrifice performance 🥹

[stiff solar]

that is super cute! Thats the same vibe Im gonna end up building once it gets here

[agile latch]

Thank you!!

Pink lovers rise

[stiff solar]

[gleaming crane]

I thought they updated the board so that you could use custom coiled cables and still use tachyon mode

[agile latch]

I’m so happy with the per-key RGB customization

[agile latch]

Probably, I may have missed it lol

[stiff solar]

Which case is that, Im assuming its aluminum?

[agile latch]

Yes it is! It’s the ZT60 from AliExpress

They have lots of colors

Might order more if I get bored of pink 💀

[stiff solar]

Awesome! Not toooooo many pink ones, for some reason

[somber scroll]

Wait is this concrete lol

[shell geode]

Yessir!

I'm also waiting for the resin kit to come in as well

[somber scroll]

Hell yes that’s dope haha. Can’t wait to see the result and hear a sound test!

[shell geode]

Me too!! I have to wait 5-7 days and I'm getting impatient! I poured it last night 😒

[marble shuttle]

@shell geode damm

[shell geode]

I don't know what to expect on this first one, but I'll keep trying!

[marble shuttle]

yeah still insane 😄

[stiff solar]

Backed up the cement truck into the house

[shell geode]

That's alot of cement! 😆

Fortunately, I only need 350ml of concrete mix for the PSD60 mold

[glacial seal]

Terrazzo case wen. 😉

[stiff solar]

it exists !

someone must buy-

[glacial seal]

Terrazzo is polished tho, polishing a case must be paaaiiiiinnn

[shell geode]

painful, but not impossible

[stiff solar]

I know its lot of variables blah blah, but what sort of sounds would a resin material case bring w/ a Wooting?

[grizzled path]

woody

[shell geode]

I would say less pingy than aluminum boards

Combined with ceramic keys could make it sound more marble-y

[stiff solar]

I like a deeper sound, but Im coming from razer greens

[wispy rapids]

is it difficult to make a resin case? i tried to find some youtube videos to follow as a guide for a resin case but i couldn't find any step by step guides for it

[shell geode]

It's not difficult to make your own mold and mix your own resin pour, but it will be handmade vs a machined process

[glacial seal]

But the mold part is definitely where experience will show.

It’s not comparable but we used to cast mini figures way back and the experienced folks got outstanding results and the rest of us got decent at best. 😄

[shell geode]

Definitely! It's going to be an extensive process even just making the right mold

[grizzled path]

mmmmmm mold

[wispy rapids]

seems easier said than done lol

[shell geode]

100 percent haha

[stiff solar]

And if a case says " Tray mount ", what does that mean for wooting compatability? I checked the compatable list/link thing, but just curious :>

[shell geode]

Wooting probably has a box full of their prototypes in storage somewhere

[normal schooner]

a tray mount is a type on how you assemble the pcb(electronics) to the case. we use this tray mount type. its means that theres screw holes below the pcb and we use this

theres a few more constrains defenetly checkout modding faq

#🪛│modding_faq

[stiff solar]

I am learning lots, thank you! I think it should be okay, then

[shell geode]

There are top mounted cases out there, but it will require a customized plate

[normal schooner]

there are no wooting plates

from the aftermarkt so far

[stiff solar]

I dunno, I just want different looks for now but the sound stuff is still v confusing ! First keyboard Ill ever get to mod, so gotta research

[shell geode]

What don't you like about your 60HE so far?

[stiff solar]

I havent gotten it yet, this is all just planning

[normal schooner]

from my experience and a lot of other people

you only hear the few people that try to mod it. alot of people are running stock are content with it

[stiff solar]

Yeah, from the videos n stuff that I have seen; it sounds great stock and or lubed !

[shell geode]

Right, so I ask that question because you'd only mod it if there was something stock that you don't like

[normal schooner]

gewalt going for the fjell case

[stiff solar]

oh, I getcha now. Its just a visual thing, I'd want different color keycaps n case is all

[shell geode]

I love that case! But I definitely don't see myself spending $300 for just the case. I'm already at $300 total for my whole build 😬

[normal schooner]

[shell raft]

what case is this?

[shell geode]

Kamo60

[shell raft]

thx

[manic plume]

300 for a case is crazy

[shell raft]

yes

150 is like max top of the top price for case

afterall its just a piece of cnc machined metal (usually)

[glacial seal]

Those numbers only scratch the surface of this hobby.

[shell geode]

It's also a very niche hobby, so I'm sure their MOQ is not as large

[stiff solar]

Im probably gonna have to spend like 200ish

[glacial seal]

300 is top for a compatible case but not really a high number for a case in the custom keyboard world.

[shell geode]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805158305721.html?

[glacial seal]

But yeah if you can’t get klippe shipped cheaply then Psd60 or gh60 doesn’t run that high.

[stiff solar]

I did think about those, I am unsure

Much to ponder on

[shell raft]

i know

the same goes for keycaps

[shell geode]

I have them, they are a great alternative to anything over $100

[stiff solar]

I really want that Marble one

[shell raft]

imagine paying 150+ usd for some plastic mini blocks (i will do that)

[shell geode]

Which marble one?

[shell raft]

at the same time, when someone know how things work really, about that technologies, like double shot, overall injection molding etc, its even more pain to pay like this

[stiff solar]

They are sold out, but like 500 dollars. I wouldn’t buy it, but its this one https://quarrykeys.com/products/quarrykase60

[shell geode]

Oh yeah that one

[stiff solar]

I am in love with the look of marble things

I wanna bite it

[shell geode]

The MOQ must have been really low for it

[shell raft]

when in reality (tooling aside, because thats something u have to take into account but in much larger scale) making 1 set of GMK costs less than 10 USD

but this is how it is

[manic plume]

The klippe t is good enough for me

[stiff solar]

Wonder how stone sounds with the wooting

[shell raft]

after u take all those things into account, like tooling, designing etc, it still costs only a litte fraction of the price tag, but at the end of the day, its just a hobby, noone have to buy crazy stuff like that, everyone is doing that out of their own will, its not something u need to survive etc

[stiff solar]

Well tbf, thats how all things are

Someone had to design the caps, n etc etc

Unless its just a ripoff, but yeah

[shell raft]

well, in my opinion 200+ USD for full set with novelties is a little rip off, especially when u have to wait like 2 years for abs keycaps, but i will still buy it if i like it

[stiff solar]

Oh, yes it is

[shell raft]

so i am a little hypcrite here

[shell geode]

Tooling is crazy expensive

[shell raft]

yeah, especially for injection molding, but at the scale of the production etc, the costs are like 1 USD per GMK keycap set (if not less)

[stiff solar]

People buy said expensive caps n allow the price to remain high, so I suppose its the way of the beast !

[manic plume]

What are some good keycaps that are red

Looking

[stiff solar]

In the automotive community, rep(lica) wheels are kinda looked down upon; are clones the same in this community?

[shell raft]

hahah man, lets not talk about all out war in Warhammer community

and 3d printing

[stiff solar]

Warhammer fans when paying 500 dollars for a mini

[shell geode]

Yeah, the material cost once you've finalized the set is nothing, the MSRP is coming from the tooling to get there

[shell raft]

time to go to bed

[random haven]

@wind turtle @mental hemlock here you go!

[mental hemlock]

holy fuck thats hot

im ordering some immediately, thank you

[random haven]

Want mine?

I'm literally shipping them back to Ali in the next few days

Not looking to make a profit, would sell for my cost plus shipping to you. I'm in PA so faster than China. No worries if you'd rather order direct

DM me if so, if not all good! I agree they look great though

[shell geode]

Trial and error. I came home to cracks in the pour, possibly due to adding too much water to the mix. Will try again!

[wispy rapids]

you just gave me an idea talking about cracked molds

i can build a metal foundry and melt metal into it and make a metal case for the 2HE

would have to try my hand at making a resin mold tho before toiling away aimlessly with metal though lol

aluminum case made out of aluminum cans

[shell geode]

Sounds complicated but cool if you can pull it off!

[wispy rapids]

theres alot of DIY metal foundry videos on youtube

much simpler than it sounds, the mold is probably still the hardest part 😂

[wind turtle]

i have made the difficult decision to go with black unfortunately. thank you for offering tho. i appreciate it!

psd60 back in stock on kprepublic website (black, grey, silver) for those wondering

[random haven]

Hey man, no worries at all! Congrats and enjoy the case my friend!

[hot kayak]

Im assuming ur gummy oring mounting this right?

[shell geode]

That can be one way to mount, but I also have this in mind to drill into the standoffs and add in

[last lintel]

Question (not sure if modding is really the right place but.): I have my computer under my desk, that is height adjustable. So all my cables running to keyboard/mouse and such are 5m atm.
Will a 5m USB A to C cable work with the Wooting 60he? I read about coiled cables might having some issues.
Would it be better to buy a C to C cable istead? Or wont that do anything really?

[bronze grove]

Anything longer than about 1.8m is prone to have issues. C to C won't make any difference.

Voltage stability becomes an issue the longer the cable is, and depending on how thick the wire gauge is. You'll generally have to reduce the LED brightness or/and disable Tachyon mode.

[last lintel]

Okay. But i need a longer cable ^^ 😄
Anyone who had any luck with some "specia thick" cable, or something?
Or can i got 5m, and just set leds to like 50% and it will be fine?

[bronze grove]

Only one way to find out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE

[last lintel]

Yeah, i watched that, so thats why im asking, since i need one longer than 2m

If anyone had tried with a 5m, and got it to work well or not

[bronze grove]

I highly doubt it'll work personally.

Maybe if you buy an expensive USB to Ethernet adaptor kit or something. Ideally you'd put the PC on or below the table (mounted to it)

[last lintel]

Maybe i can get away with a 3m cable, but 2m is for sure to short.

[last lintel]

But it shouldnt be any issue to go C to C right? Instead from A to C, should work the same?

[gritty creek]

Hey! I have experience with both. The Ali store is way more reliable as Aliexpress acts as a middleman between the buyer and the vendor. If you run into any kind of problem it's going to be a lot easier to sort it our with Ali. Kprepublic has a (or used to have) terrible costumer service, look for horror stories on Reddit. Ive ordered from them several times from Ali and the shipping never took more than ~10-12 days. Ordered from their website once, and it took more than a month for the keycaps to arrive. Always opt for the ali store if you can. Having said that, Ive just ordered the Psd60 from the website since it's the only place where it's available it was 10 dollars cheaper. 🤪

[bronze grove]

Yes - My point is that it won't make for a better connection by itself. They're identical 🙂

[gentle silo]

does this also apply, when the keyboard just send character very often? like when i press c i often times just output cccccccccc. This only happens on 1 key tho...

[bronze grove]

In general.

[last lintel]

Cos im thinking, maybe (just maybe) if i buy like an Anker C to C cable thats 3m long, maybe its good enough to handle it. All C cables seem to have like a chip in them that is supose to "make power more stable" yada yada yada. But idk if this would be to an advantage, or dissadvantage when it comes to tachyonmode.
Looking at this atm, its swedish Amazon, but should be avail on all of em.
https://www.amazon.se/Anker-USB-C-laddningskabel-Type-C-laddningskabel-laddning-MacBook/dp/B08PVQC5C6/ref=sr_1_34?crid=3JISPTXNFVSZV&keywords=usb+c+kabel+3m&qid=1686223346&sprefix=usb+c+kabel+3m%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-34

[bronze grove]

Yes - If you were to take a gamble on anything, Anker is definitely not the worst place to start. Generally high quality cables.

[last lintel]

Ill try it out, and just send it back if it dont work i guess. Thanks for ze help

[bronze grove]

Be sure to report back. Always helpful so we can pass the information on to others 🙂

[last lintel]

sure

[gentle silo]

nvm, just did a shitty job when i was fimling this switch lol

[left patrol]

How about a powered usb hub? Wouldn’t that help?

[bronze grove]

You'd still risk having issues with either cable being longer than 6ft I would assume.

[opaque flume]

I ordered a PSD60 Defender on AliExpress 6 days (4 days if you exclude the weekend) ago. Didn't arrive yet but it is apparently at German Customs. So, I will assume 11 days in total but I can be wrong (again, 7 days if you exclude both weekends)

[uneven cradle]

Finally got around to lubing

Just want a new cable now

[thick mural]

get an active extender from sabrent

[marble shuttle]

@uneven cradle klippe ?

[uneven cradle]

Tofu60 but custom coated

[marble shuttle]

what

custom coated how is that work

[uneven cradle]

Some guy sprayed some cerakote on it

[marble shuttle]

can you put sound test after you mod everything

I got tofu60 too and waiting lube kit and foam coming

[uneven cradle]

i basically just followed badseedtechs video on modding it

so burger mount foam that came with it

[elder hollow]

Man I wish I had a black tofu60

[uneven cradle]

did tape mod, lubed switches and put some gmk wob on

[marble shuttle]

@elder hollow I bought the last tofu60 entire world i guess 😄

last black

[elder hollow]

Lucky man 😄 I bought an e-white one last autumn when the stock was still alright

Vibing for black aesthetics now so kinda regretting I didn't just get a black one then lol

[marble shuttle]

i love black aesthetics so much

safe option

[uneven cradle]

And usually cheaper too 😆

[marble shuttle]

my mind will always buy black thing even have different colours

[elder hollow]

And looks clean as hell when it's an alu case

[marble shuttle]

@uneven cradle what tape mod did you do it

I posted some tape it will work i guess

[elder hollow]

Mine looks like this right now

[uneven cradle]

I just used painters tape

i don't think it does much the foam is already pretty thick

[marble shuttle]

@uneven cradle wooting foam ? I tried couple times put in didnt worked

[uneven cradle]

yeah wooting foam

yeah i had to jam it in to get the screws in

[marble shuttle]

I am thinking buy to this

https://stupidfish.design/products/tofu60-dz60rgb-ansi-v2-case-and-plate-foam-set?variant=42283662835906

[tranquil barn]

is there a way to default the Wooting 60HE to one of the Analog profile instead of the typing profile?

[bronze grove]

No.

[tranquil barn]

so the only way is to change the settings of the typing profile?

[bronze grove]

For the profile you have on bootup? Yes. Otherwise you'll have to use a profile shortcut to change to a different one.

Like FN+Enter

[wind turtle]

yeah i thought it would be more reliable too but it was cheaper on the kprepublic website so i just had to 😂

[wind turtle]

thanks! i’ll keep that in mind for other products on ali

[hushed owl]

build done for now. might do more in the future.

freebird60, nicepbt noel, lubed and swapped 50cn springs, burger mounted.

ignore my gross desk mat

[gentle silo]

i think your board could bebefit from a tape mode. did you use any foam?

[hushed owl]

yes

[mild anvil]

did you use switch pad ?

[hushed owl]

i thought you cant use switch pads cause of the hallfx tolerances

[mild anvil]

yes u can

[gentle silo]

no it still works even on 0.1mm actuation. had them in myself

[hushed owl]

hm

[mild anvil]

and i think reduce noise to

[gentle silo]

another quick mod you can do instead is just put 1 layer of tape on your pcb (like with the tape mod but on the "switch side" this changes the sound pretty siginificantly

[gentle silo]

if thats what he want to go for

[hushed owl]

i have some switch pads lying around might do tha t

[gentle silo]

what sound profile are you going for?

[hushed owl]

just want it to sound nice, maybe a bit quieter

[gentle silo]

yep then switch pads, or even some plate foam pads, id go with eva foam in that case to filter our morew of the higher pitch stuff

the foam pads on the plate reduce alot of the vibrations going into the steel plate

[mild anvil]

i got this

[gentle silo]

yea these are for the pcb the ones i posted are to be put onto the plate like this:

[mild anvil]

oh okay

[gentle silo]

btw, with what did you lube your switches and what parts did you lube they still sound pretty dry

might be just the mic tho

[hushed owl]

Yeah it’s the mic, they don’t sound dry in person

Lubed the whole spring and the rails of the stems

205g0

[gentle silo]

yea then its really jsut the mic, i personally also lubed the "stem hole" and the bottom housing + rails

this is what mine sound like currently, going for a more clacky/poppy build. no foam anywhere, just lubed switches and a custom fr4 plate

[mild anvil]

what is ur case ?

[gentle silo]

wilba. tech salvation

still need to retune my stabs.. the mods sound pretty shit rn

[mild anvil]

are u recommand switch pad on plate ? i have switch pad for pcb

[gentle silo]

depends on whatt sound profile you are going for. but on the steel plate id say its defiently worth it

[spiral aspen]

Where would I get these? I have the same mods as ren and would like my keyboard to be quieter

[mild anvil]

i like ur sound

because i think switch pad on plate and pcb isn't that too much?

[gentle silo]

its kinda hard to get the steel plate to sound good thats why i switched.

[mild anvil]

what did u get?

[gentle silo]

no not really, worked fine for me, the ocasional double inputs but idk if that actually caused it or my custom cable. if you get foam pads make sure they are poron and not eva/pe

[gentle silo]

got some fr4 plates made

[gentle silo]

same case aswell? you could also try some switch or plate pads

[spiral aspen]

Yeah the same case too

[gentle silo]

generally i buy all my keyboard stuff off of aliexpress but alot of the stuff also gets sold on amazon for a small premium

[mild anvil]

do u haev link for ur plate you use ?

[gentle silo]

not really, its not that simple for the wooting sadly. you have to get them made custom.

[mild anvil]

off fuk it im gona keep the original

[gentle silo]

FR4 is the same material as pcbs are made out of, so i basically converted the dxf file wooting provides into a gerber file. then i orderd some "pcbs" online with this file and boom i got a plate lol

[gentle silo]

depending on where you are in the eu i can sell you one. the minimum order quantity was 5 so i still got some leftover

and i dont plan on buying 5 wooting lol

[mild anvil]

where u living ?

[gentle silo]

germany

[mild anvil]

france

[gentle silo]

yea shipping should be resonably cheap if you want one pm me

[mild anvil]

do u have some pic?

[gentle silo]

yea shoot me a pm

[spiral aspen]

Thanks! I’m gonna get some poron plate pads and give it a try

[untold wigeon]

which case works best with the wooting? meaning needing not much modification. i dont want to have to mess with anything and fuck something up. i just wanna screw in the keyboard and be done lmao.

[gentle silo]

tbh just stay with the stock case in that case if you dont want to mod or lube switches

[untold wigeon]

thats not what i meant

i just dont want a plastic case

i know some cases you have to do a lot of modifications to fit the plate into the case

[gentle silo]

i guess just get a psd60 or any other case on the case comptibility list.

[untold wigeon]

lubing switches and shit isnt a problem

[marble shuttle]

You have to mod if you have aliminium case case and pcb not good

[untold wigeon]

wdym

do the screws line up to the screws on the pcb?

[gentle silo]

hes most likely talking about the sound if this it what youa re reffering to. for cases there is a official wooting list with cases that fit the wooting pcb -> https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[untold wigeon]

So those are cases have screws that line up with the pcbs?

[bronze grove]

And don't have any additional ones that kill the board.

(The list has both good and bad cases)

[gentle silo]

yes all cases only marked with "compatible" can be used right out of the box and confirmed by the wooting people or community

[untold wigeon]

okay thank you

i was thinking of getting this one

https://salvun.com/products/salvation

[gentle silo]

thats the case i have

[untold wigeon]

when do you think wooting will release their own case?

can you send me pics

[gentle silo]

i think its planned for august

[untold wigeon]

jesus

[gritty creek]

yeah exactly. which colour did you go with? I think I snatched the last grey one

[gentle silo]

this is soul black btw.

[shell geode]

Beautiful build! 😍

[gentle silo]

beautiful and expensive

[untold wigeon]

will the case work with US layout?

[gentle silo]

layout is just for the keycaps this has nothing to do with the pcb sice or case size

[untold wigeon]

ah okay

[shell geode]

Yup! The standoffs will line up with the ANSI layout

[gentle silo]

yep if you look at the product page all pictures are with ansi layout

[shell geode]

Haha, definitely out of budget for some of us, me included!

[gentle silo]

yea got it pretty cheap on the second hand market. this case is from the original gb in 2021. but he never built it, got it for 220€

@untold wigeon id recommed watching a vid to the case tho. the case doesnt arrive entirely assembeld. you need to break out and file down the leafsprings and mount them.

[untold wigeon]

any specific video?

[gentle silo]

badseed tech, he shows what you have to build yourself at the case https://youtu.be/5-dX0JpWGaU

at about 2:20 min he shows the mounting system and stuff

[untold wigeon]

okay thank you

[atomic drum]

where did you get these?

[gentle silo]

aliexpress

[versed pivot]

Which material did you get? Eva, pe, poron?

[shell raft]

where u can buy those?

[last lintel]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004804230184.html

[median crow]

hello, does the opacity/tint of the top housing of a switch affects the rgb? and if it does are there any videos to show the difference?

[normal schooner]

just as much as the color of your case

its tiny

[bronze grove]

Yes of course.

[gentle silo]

Depends on the sound signature you want

[bronze grove]

The LEDs shine right through the switch housing.

[marble shuttle]

how can we reduce spring sound should Iube switches and use g105 on spring ?

[glossy pagoda]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004804230184.html
Clean link

[median crow]

ahh i see, cus i'm looking at making a custom keyboard but the only thing that's holding me back is the switches. and from the list of switches i'm considering don't really have transparent top housings

[gentle silo]

Yea 105 on the springs ( I personally bag lube then as it’s the fastest way

[marble shuttle]

@gentle silo where can I find bag lube ty btw I will buy soon bought lube kit 26th may

[bronze grove]

You get lube, you get a bag, you combine the two and shake springs inside.

That - that is bag lube.

[atomic drum]

how many drops?

[versed pivot]

Anything to erase the ping, deep

[gentle silo]

Just search bag lube on yt

[gentle silo]

Pe or eva

[somber scroll]

What’s the difference in sound between poron, Eva, and PE?

[last lintel]

Idk 😄 Some one else better answer that one!
But a quick google provided this results when it comes to switchpads, so im thinking it probably is the same for this product

PE Switch Pad
This material produces a marbly/thocky sound profile.

PORON Switch Pad
PORON is a sound dampening foam which helps reduce the hollow soundprofile in most keyboards. Great for upgrading budget boards and improving sound quality.

EVA Switch Pad
Ethylene-vinyl acetate is a highly sought-after PCB foam that is also used to provide a thocky/poppy sound signature.

The question is just who will send it so its here fastest :S
Ali says 07aug on pretty much everyone, not sure if that is realistic or not. Did an order a few days ago, that is already in my country, and it also said in early august when i ordered.

Cos there are like 10+ seller for this product

[marble shuttle]

@gentle silo how can I find that bag we put springs inside them didnt know the name

I tried to search I cannot find it

[last lintel]

wait, are you kidding?

[gentle silo]

Just a sandwich bag idk

[marble shuttle]

@last lintel bro engilish sucks what can I do 😄

[light drift]

literally any plastic bag

[median crow]

ziplock bags are fine

[last lintel]

its just any small bag, like a ziplock bag

[marble shuttle]

yeah ziplock bags i remembered thanks

[versed pivot]

Or you buy a spring lube bag on AliExpress kappa

[marble shuttle]

5 times is enough for 60 spring ?

I am not similar to custom building things just asking for safety dont understand wrong

[still vortex]

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?t=229 something like this

Put them in a bag and shake with the oil/lube

[marble shuttle]

👍

[gentle silo]

this sounds like chat gpt 🙂 to add to that. this all is based on a scientific research. denser foam like poron filters out deeper sounds aka thock providing a clacky or marbely sound while less denser foam like eva or pe filter out higher pitched sounds macking it more thocky

[last lintel]

Idk it was taken from a site that sells the switch stickers, i just copy pasted what they said about the 3 materials of their switch stickers

[gentle silo]

ah thats why its written so wierd lol. yea makes sens.

[last lintel]

I ordered some EVA ones atleast

[gentle silo]

this difference is mostly noticable in case foam tho, dont know if the materialdifferenze in switch pads or plate film is noticable at all

[last lintel]

We'll see, i thought id might as well ad some when i start modding. Not like they are that expensive.
Might be a bit tedious to install, but i mean.... thats true for most mods ^^

[gentle silo]

yea, why not give it a try gotta get to the 10€ for the free 12day shipping lol

[gentle silo]

well you bag isnt coated in oil yet so id go a bit heavyer for the first time. More like 40 drops.

[marble shuttle]

huh wow

[gentle silo]

thats atleast how i started my "lubing bag" after that i do 1 drop per 12 springs

[noble harness]

Yo! Working on a post for the Wooting Subreddit and was wondering if someone could give it a second look.

Just have to pour some silicone in my case tomorrow, then I'm ready to take some better pictures for this post. Any suggestions are very much appreciated!

[gentle silo]

second look in what sense

[noble harness]

anything I'm missing? any obvious grammer mistakes lol idk

[wispy rapids]

are you making a case mold out of silicone?

idk if this is intentional spelling or not

[gentle silo]

im not a native english speaker myself so i cant really rate your gramma but sounds natural to me. whats size orings are you running btw.

[noble harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEISslcF-Jk

[wispy rapids]

thanks for the video gives me some insight

[noble harness]

4mm OD 1mm ID 1.5mm - add to list too thx

[gentle silo]

you could link to the official case compatibility list from wooting so people can also find other cases they like https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[noble harness]

love it

[gentle silo]

hmm when i had my wooting burger mounted i used 5 mm OD 1 mm ID 2 mm wide orings, imo they worked alot better then the 4mm and gave alot more bounce, but it was harder to screw in/line up the usb port

[noble harness]

good to know

[noble harness]

lol tysm

[river reef]

I did silicone pour in my psd60re and baldr60, tbh i dont notice much dif compare to just adding packing foam, wooting switch dont really benefit from the mod

[stiff solar]

Unsure how thorough you wanna be, but sentences cant start with But ( iirc )

[wispy rapids]

there does not need to be a ' here

[wind turtle]

i went for black to be on the safer side since i still don’t know which keycaps to get, but the grey did look really nice

[wispy rapids]

no period at the end

[gentle silo]

im not quiet sure about this, but there is a few capitalization errors

[wispy rapids]

using an ' means that the word parts is possesive

[noble harness]

good to know as well, I will post a before and after sound test sometime this weekend

[gentle silo]

migth also be worth to go a bit in detail for the lubing process of the switches. maybe add a small video guide or something

[wispy rapids]

no period at the end here either, not sure if you intended there to be one here

[noble harness]

probably lol

[wispy rapids]

no periods

[normal schooner]

whom his grammer are we tainting

[noble harness]

I think I will go more in depth on lube/spring swap in the video I'm working on

[noble harness]

added rough time estimate lol

[normal schooner]

share your video here when its done 😄

[wispy rapids]

@noble harness when you bought your wooting, the stock was 60cN springs? Then you bought 50cN springs after that

in bold it says the 50cN SPRINGS are being replaced by 45cN SWITCHES

on the website it starts with 40cN and ends at 60cN

[noble harness]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[shell geode]

I did a silicone pour last month for my PSD60, and while it was fun to do, I hardly noticed a difference so I went back to my sorbothane foam. It was cool though!

[noble harness]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

do I have it wrong?

[wispy rapids]

https://next.wooting.io/product/lekker-switch-springs these are still in stock

[wispy rapids]

im just confused on what the current batch of wootings are now shipping with lmao

[noble harness]

yep they are still linked in my post too, but I assume in the next few weeks they will not be

[noble harness]

oh gotcha, stock wootings springs are 60cN. 45cN will be the only other one available soon. Do I need to make that more clear in my post?

[wispy rapids]

i think that you meant the 50cN springs are being replaced by 45cN springs

not for 45cN switches

i dont rly know how you determine the cN but i guess if you say that stock is 60cN that means that the cN is the key end force and not the key start force

the box says lekker switches but this image calls them springs

idk im probably just an idiot and confusing myself here

i guess the box having the word switches instead of springs implies that the springs come with the box but the graph is just specifically measuring spring force

maybe make the wording either only springs or only switches to be more clear

[bronze grove]

What?

[obsidian dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/illuminati-eyes-shaking-gif-12355978

[bronze grove]

No more loose spring backs, only packs of switches.

[last lintel]

Its easy, atm there are springs you can buy and replace your self. Later there are going to be switches instead. So no loose springs, and you dont need to replace your self

[bronze grove]

Not atm. They're gone.

[last lintel]

The springs you could buy was 50cn, the new switches will be 45cn

[wispy rapids]

okay that makes sense

[shell geode]

So either buy the 60HE prebuilt with 60cN switches, or you can build it yourself with the PCB module, 45cN switches, and alu case?

[noble harness]

could I explain it better in my post lol?

[wispy rapids]

I think you're fine and i just got confused

weird liminal transition where the wording is being converged so it didn't make sense to me

[wispy rapids]

i think right now its its either buy 60HE prebuilt with 60cN springs or you can later buy the switch with built-in 45cN spring combo later

from what i am getting out of this

so if someone has a prebuilt right now they have switches + seperate springs and when they upgrade to 45cN they will be replacing their springs + switches with just a switch which has the spring inside of it instead of the spring and switch being seperate

can i contact the vendor who made them and purchase them through the vendor ?

[bronze grove]

I mean... in theory? Can't help you with who that OEM is though.

#archived_the_lekker_switch message
Here are the dimensions.

[wispy rapids]

hmm.. if i email customer support do you think someone will be able to tell me who the vendor was or is that confidential

[stiff solar]

When pink

[bronze grove]

They asked customer support...

Even if I could get you a name, I would fully assume they only deal in Chinese and only with bulk orders or hundreds of bags worth of springs at a time.

You'd have much better luck finding the right dimension springs in non magnetic metal alloy there on AliExpress or the like.

[wispy rapids]

chinese 😩

i tracked down exactly 1 twitch streamer with that keycap set and he is willing to sell them if i "need" them right now but it seemed like he didnt have replacement keycaps lol

[gentle silo]

What keycap set

[wispy rapids]

blank-double-shot-backlit-pbt-keycap-set-mint-carbon-inverse

[gentle silo]

Ah the wooting keycaps

Didn’t your board come with any? Or are you just after the green keycaps

[wispy rapids]

yeah the board comes with the default ones but i plan on switching them out from the looks of it

unless i turn out to like the default keycaps for some reason

[gentle silo]

Tbh the wooting keycaps aren’t special ok quality, ok legendes, ok grip. If you want to mod your board I’d look at other keycap options tbh. Shinetrough keycaps just can’t offer the same quality as a standard doubleshot or even dyesub keycaps

[wispy rapids]

they are a nice green mint color with the black case contrast lol

i like shine through so i can see the keyboard in the dark as i dont like turning the light on most of the time

also for some reason so many non-shinethrough keycaps have the legends in the top left corner of the keycap which i don't really like, i prefer the legend to be in the center of the keycap

[gentle silo]

If your looking for an option now, corsair offers some shinethrough keycaps wich are decent for well, beeing shinetrought

Also mint green available you could just mix them I guess

[gentle silo]

Legends are overrated if you can touchtype

[wispy rapids]

corsair has hella ugly legends

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5790 - these were the nicest i found overall

[gentle silo]

Fair enough

[gentle silo]

I prefer the steelseries ones

[wispy rapids]

are those seamless

[gentle silo]

What do you mean?

[wispy rapids]

are you talking about steelseries pudding keycaps

[gentle silo]

Yea I like them more then the ducky ones

[wispy rapids]

sometimes the pudding and the top of the keycap have a seam where they meet eachother

[gentle silo]

Ohh I must misunderstood you statement I thought you were talking about the keycaps itself, but your talking about the legends?

[gentle silo]

Yea in they are also pudding keycaps so no

You can’t really not have a seamless pudding keycaps as they are 2 different materials fused together

[silver dragon]

What are the best sites to get keycaps from?

Quality PBT keycaps

[fiery oxide]

you can order from drop or any site that sells genuine GMKs if cost doesnt matter

[silver dragon]

Looking for PBT keycaps. Might go with Bakaneko

[remote tartan]

is the tofu60 2.0 compatible with wooting

[shrewd lagoon]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/1005003240838150.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt has anyone used this case for the wooting, getting my wooting soon and want to find a case for it

[cobalt obsidian]

do wooting lekker switch stems work in cap v2s?

[somber scroll]

No

[somber scroll]

Are cap v2s other switches? If they aren’t HE, probably not as the wooting stem has a larger base than regular switches

[shell geode]

Seeing that its a thicker version of the PSD60, it will fit!

[shell geode]

No, you can't put the stem in the Cap V2 housing, Lekker stem is wider and the bottom housing on the cap V2 needs to be open for the magnet to register the input to the pcb

[cobalt obsidian]

ah, ty for explaining

[opaque flume]

Did anyone ever bought something from a website called "switchlab.store"? Apparently they are from Singapore but I've been waiting for my order and they didn't message me back so far. I messaged them because according to their shipping policy it takes 3-20 days to arrive and I've been on the 22th day without any trackingnumber ~

Just wonder if it is a legit webiste/store or not ~

[gentle silo]

KBDfans -> the PBTfans series of keycaps

[gentle silo]

yes its on the compatibility list

[viral aspen]

[bronze grove]

[thick mural]

i have these coming in to use on my copper plate

i bought 240

[gentle silo]

nice you got the copper plate already

[thick mural]

not yet, im making 4 plates

POM, Alu, Brass and Copper

should take like 6-8 weeks

[gentle silo]

ive also inquired the some local laser cutting shops and they also offer bronze, im kinda tempted to get a bronze plate now lol. but idk

but bronze most likely is way to hard

[thick mural]

yeah bronze would be pretty nice imo

[mental hemlock]

where are my blank keycap fanatics

I need to see more of those in wootstations

[gentle silo]

idk, its harder then brass or copper but softer then steel, most likely gonna stay save and go with brass or aluminium

[mental hemlock]

I don't think that it being too hard is the issue, I think its more of it being too soft and causing flex, leading to interruptions of the magnets

[gentle silo]

i dont have a bronze plate i was just thinking about it

[gentle silo]

bronze is by far not flexy enough to cause issues

[mental hemlock]

Haha yeah

I think it was @shell geode that had a custom bronze plate cut to fill the battery hole in the PSD60, that guy is smart as fuck

[gentle silo]

though about something similar for my tofu build, but bronze isnt really a good material for a weight, both steel and brass are heavyer + cheaper

[mental hemlock]

I think it was more of an acoustics thing, seeing as the Fjell has something like that

[wispy rapids]

uhh... did cerakeys just go live with their ceramic keycap sets? https://www.cerakey.com/products/ceramic-keycaps-full-set-white?variant=41455856287883

its in stock

and i didnt see this webpage 2 days ago

[gentle silo]

generally weigths are made out of brass as its denser

[gentle silo]

price isnt even to bad lol

[wispy rapids]

yeah exactly

[mental hemlock]

Man, if it had a matte finish I would be all over that lol

[wispy rapids]

i wonder what happened to their other styles i remember there was like frozen indigo and cracked looking keycaps

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtJqc3iNUMT/?hl=en

yeah literally 2 days ago they went live with it wow

'there are only a limited number of sets available, and we won’t produce more sets in the future." 🤔

[mental hemlock]

buy it now and ask q's later lol

[wispy rapids]

"The new version with plastic stems will be ready soon, stay tuned"

are they fully ceramic stems right now too lol

[gentle silo]

geez the indigo keycaps look so good. but i already bought to many kecaps this month

[mental hemlock]

rip

[wispy rapids]

yeah indigo is clean

so is the WOB

[gentle silo]

yea i can only imagine the clacky marbely sound you get with these

[wispy rapids]

idk.. i was planning on getting pudding keycaps but these being in stock gives me no excuse to not buy them lol

oh white on black with legends is sold out already

im 2 days late to it i guess

but ur right the sound will be awesome

i saw youtube videos of it and it sounded like legos

the WOB legends look really dim here for some reason

maybe the WOB is using lighting tricks and is actually not as contrasty

[marble shuttle]

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005002096714904.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm i would buy this they are looking same not a good idea giving 150 bucks

[wispy rapids]

huge difference between aesthetic, sound, and feel though for $100 more

[marble shuttle]

make sense

unfortuently probably will not come to my country if it is the taxes 😄

ohhh black one

I imagined on tofu

[wispy rapids]

the black one with legends is sold out which really sucks

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfq_8CPp8YL/?hl=en

look at the rgb pictures

the vibe is crazy on these

[marble shuttle]

damm

[wispy rapids]

oh wait thats the kickstarter version of them

they didnt sell this set now

they are saying they'll make a diff version with better tolerances for more keyboards which will use a plastic stem

i think ill buy a white set now and sell it when they release with plastic stems so i can buy a black set if i dont like the whites

[marble shuttle]

[wispy rapids]

hmm

[novel cargo]

got my 60he last week, lubed the switches and stabs, now looking into case swaping it, any recomendations now its almost imposible to get a Tofo 60% in the UK ?

[bronze grove]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[novel cargo]

perfect thank you 🙂 has there been anywhere release plates yet for it I've not seen anything yet I have hear Wooting maybe doing something in that space ?

[wispy rapids]

@bronze grove do you think ceramic stems would wear out the gateron stems?

[bronze grove]

Plates need to be custom made for the 60HE. None off the shelf ones will fit.
We have a few folks here who have made these for various cases, like gasket mounts.

[bronze grove]

Stems? wear out? Not sure I follow. Main concern with ceramic keycaps would be weight. Your springs are going to work hard to keep those up, so the switch will feel softer and weaker.

[wispy rapids]

theres a guy with a stem issue apparently

[bronze grove]

Interesting.

[gentle silo]

nope you gotta custom order them currently. ive got a fr4 plate in mine

[gentle silo]

they plan on releasing the wooting module with a pc plate afaik. dunno if the plate will get sold seperatly

[wispy rapids]

well if i plan on getting 45g switches the stem issue wont be a problem since the stock 60g switches will be getting replaced ^_^

[shell raft]

but u are planing on using such heavy keycaps?

like cerakey?

because if so, i wouldnt be so sure

they will always need heavier harder springs

[wispy rapids]

um

would the 45g switch modification mean the springs are permanent?

or would i have to take the switch apart to replace the springs

[gentle silo]

i dont think this is gonna be a problem, cerakey states one keycaps weights 3.75g. so still eough headroom. yes the siwtches will be lighter but i dont think this will interfear with the top out or actuation

[wispy rapids]

lmao imagine if the ceramics just actuate the keys by themselves

[shell raft]

XD

that would be a problem

[gentle silo]

to add to that, this measurement is from their old keycaps apparently the new ones are lighter

[wispy rapids]

well if thats an issue in reality, v2 of the keycaps will come in a few months with a plastic stem instead of a ceramic one so that could fix any real issues

[stray tiger]

The biggest issue (other than weight of the spacebar) has been the ceramic just mangling the plastic stems on switches. Guess thats why they said a new version with plastic is coming.

[gentle silo]

yea id imagine the spacebar is like 20-25 gramms lol definetly gotta leave the stock spring in there

[wispy rapids]

yeah they even give like tape to apply to the switch to prevent that i think

[wind turtle]

hey. i wanna do a burger mount for my 60he in a psd60 that's coming in. would i be able to use the original screws from the 60he or would i have to buy longer screws? i'm assuming the screws that come with the psd60 are magnetic so i'm gonna rule those out

[bronze grove]

The PSD60 surely has its own screws?

Not sure why you'd think they would be magnetic though.

[wind turtle]

im sure it has it own screws. i've never had an alu case before, but the screws that come with other plastic keyboards are magnetic (or at least stick to the magnet tip of the phillips head screwdrivers)

[shell geode]

@gentle silo Morning! the weight I used is made of brass and cut it out with a hacksaw 😃

[fathom fiber]

screws sticking to a magnetic tip of a screwdriver doesn't mean they're magnetic

[gentle silo]

Yep that just means your screwdriver is

[shell geode]

The PSD60 screws are too short for a burger mount, so I would advise to use M2x8mm screws 👍

[dim kiln]

how i get out the screws? they are so small

[bronze grove]

Of?

[dim kiln]

every screwdriver is to big

the keyboard

want to put out the plate

and lube

[bronze grove]

You need a Philips Head PH0

[dim kiln]

no other way?

[bronze grove]

How do you imagine that would work?

[dim kiln]

ye i got a lot of screwdrivers

i thought they are small enough

[bronze grove]

"This square peg won't go into this circular hole. Can I do something else?"

[dim kiln]

no thanks

[fickle vector]

No need for that knife in the back lol

[bronze grove]

Merely pointing out the logic of that question 😄

You will need a PH0 screwdriver to unscrew a PH0 screw.

[dim kiln]

🙃

[fickle vector]

I'd say square vs circular is not quite the same as both the screwdriver and then screws being cross shaped, but one is a slight bit too large

[fickle vector]

Without knowing that it's a PH0, I might pick the wrong screwdriver too. I don't go pick a torx head screwdriver lol

Basically just insulted the guy 💀

[bronze grove]

Naw.

[fickle vector]

Maybe that wasn't the intent

[bronze grove]

It was not the intent, nor how I read this little back and forth. But if you want to feel insulted on other people's behalf I'll let you cook. 😄

[fickle vector]

Whatever man

[left patrol]

So, which case do i get 😅

[fickle vector]

The best one!

[austere creek]

that one over there

[normal schooner]

heyy tony

[austere creek]

ey

[native linden]

Do anybody have tips on cases for the Wooting 60HE?

[left patrol]

https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256805158305721.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.51562e92ucKzF6&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=bfc2217a-7ce4-4d49-9770-1ffd2407af95&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3Abfc2217a-7ce4-4d49-9770-1ffd2407af95%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!79.0!79.0!!!!!%402101c59816843471401725887eed1d!12000033283346141!rec!US!&gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite

[lavish plaza]

@left patrol This one is kinda nice. A bit pricey but from the videos ive seen on YT it has a nice sound profile. I have been looking at a couple from ali express as well https://keebsforall.com/en-ca/products/freebird60?variant=40287604572318

[left patrol]

This one does look nice

[left patrol]

https://keebsforall.com/products/gb-freebird60-case-only

The price seems quite reasonable, but is it compatible?

[lavish plaza]

Yup

Its on the list

[true mango]

which keycaps are these?

[lavish plaza]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

Im new to the whole keyboard scene so to me that price seemed a bit steep but I guess not aha. I really like the green one personally

Ohh nvm the link I sent you was the full kit not the case itself. Its only like 80$ thats really good

[left patrol]

https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256805158305721.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.51562e92ucKzF6&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.291025.0&scm_id=1007.13339.291025.0&scm-url=1007.13339.291025.0&pvid=bfc2217a-7ce4-4d49-9770-1ffd2407af95&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.291025.0%2Cpvid%3Abfc2217a-7ce4-4d49-9770-1ffd2407af95%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238111%231996&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!79.0!79.0!!!!!%402101c59816843471401725887eed1d!12000033283346141!rec!US!&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

This one looks exactly like the poseidon psd60 but without that ugly logo

[native linden]

Looks like a nice case!

[native linden]

same here 😄

[fickle vector]

Consider shortening the links tho

https://aliexpress.us/item/1005005344620473.html

Don't need those additional trackers

[severe dune]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-skylight-series-purple-keycap-set

[true mango]

ty

[severe dune]

Np

[eternal heron]

i've stripped a screw anyone can help me?

[wind turtle]

got it thanks!

[wind turtle]

thank you! preciate it

[thick mural]

@gentle silo just got an offer for 200

[thick mural]

the stock wooting screws?

[eternal heron]

yeah

[thick mural]

you should have 2 spare in the box

[eternal heron]

but its stripped inside the case

[thick mural]

oh then nothing we can do for you

try a flathead and dig it deep into the screw

rubber bands dont work on smaller bits

[stiff solar]

I only know about automotive situations, but if something is stripped and it broke inside the thing; you either use extractor bits if you are lucky or you drill it out

[shell geode]

Pictures would help!

[gentle silo]

lol you cant even get a new klippe for that price here in germany

[thick mural]

yeah mf thinks im gonna take 200

minimum im taking is 250

i paid 350+

[gentle silo]

ah yea, didnt you ask the thickness of the wooting pcb a few days ago?

[thick mural]

yes, pretty sure its 1.6

but havent actually checked

[tulip pumice]

Hey all! I got my wooting. But the cable that comes with it doesn't match my setup and the one I have causes the keyboard to malfunction. Do we have a list of compatible cables?

[gentle silo]

yea it is ive measured it

[bronze grove]

Any decent 6ft cable should do fine.

[gentle silo]

anything under a total lenght of 2m should work

[bronze grove]

Depending on the colour scheme you want, you really can't go wrong with Anker cables.
Just make sure it's either C to A or C to C and has data.

[gentle silo]

nah bru wtf is this

[grizzled path]

it's a wooting

[shell geode]

That's an interesting case swap

[gentle silo]

the wooting ś̵̓d̷̿̏f̶͙̐s̵̔͑d̵̆̉f̶͒̿s̴̛̏d̵͑͐f̵̂̈f̶͈̋s̶̉̓

[thick mural]

thanks, took me a while to find but its a ortho layout in cherry profile

[gentle silo]

thise teeth look more like mt3 to me

[shell geode]

Nice! Is it made by Cakeys?

[lyric wave]

Lubing takes so long but damn it feels worth it.
Like 5 hours to lube all the keys? Am I just slow?

[bronze grove]

Took me 4½ for my 60HE I think? Wasn't rushing though.

[gentle silo]

no front but you slow lol, ive got through mine in about 2 hours. but it took me way longer when i did it the first time, got some practise these days

so an alright time if its your first time lubing

[lyric wave]

First time lubing

I also feel like I might have broken some switches plastic clips. They fit on fine but it looks a bit shaved.

[gentle silo]

on the bottom housing? thats normal i guess

[somber scroll]

Lmao too good

[shell geode]

You go at your own pace! It took me 6 hours for mine due to taping the top housing and I was enjoying a stream as well

[placid blaze]

take your time man

I've mucked up by rushing & overlubing and it's a pain in the arse to fix

luckily it was my first board and not my beloved Wooting

been a few months since I last asked, I don't suppose anybody has any knowledge of gh60 cases that are thinner/lower profile/generally have a smaller footprint than this type?

I'm willing to be a sacrificial lamb and buy untested ones too :^)

[median crow]

anyone here really good with switches? i need help picking out some

[placid blaze]

I hear Lekkers are pretty good

[somber scroll]

Where would you go thinner/lower profile here? Just remove more off the top lip of the case? Or are you wanting the keeb to sit even lower?
Could always just place the PCB on a deskmat like one of the wooting people does lol

[placid blaze]

I use this case pretty much across the board for my 60% boards and there's room to make the bezels/wall even thinner, given I can fit dampening material inside there's definitely room for it to be lower without busting the PCB

[somber scroll]

Ah, so you wouldn’t put anything in the bottom?

[placid blaze]

the top lip is around the same height as a plate so sadly not muc room to shave off around there

[placid blaze]

exactly

the rounded edges aren't my cup of tea either but it's also quite literally the one and only non-angled GH60 standard case I've found

[somber scroll]

Interesting. Seems like you almost want just the outer ring and then gummy oring mount it lol. And then some super thin bottom

I don’t know of any cases tho. You might be moving toward ultra custom territory lol

[placid blaze]

yeah, I've been ruminating as to whether or not I should commission one, the issue is that long term I want to be using two 60HEs (work/home) and customs ain't cheap

[somber scroll]

Ah yeah
You could also potentially dremel down the standoffs and gummy mount into the case as far as it goes, and then sand down the top edge of the case to match the height you want. Sounds time consuming tho lol

[placid blaze]

I'm definitely too much of a monkey to trust myself to do that LOL but it's genuinely a great idea

[somber scroll]

Would also want something inbetween the pcb and case I assume to prevent any static issue or scratching (also not sure about any potential heat issues)

[thick mural]

haha yes

[placid blaze]

I think that there's the possibility for a case that's quite literally the same height as the pcb/plate assembly, realistically one could even go as far as to integrate an entire plate that acts as a case as well

I'd need something to prevent short circiuts though

[somber scroll]

Case/plate combo would be neat

[placid blaze]

A lot of room to shave off

[thick mural]

you'd need room for standoffs

and usb housings

[glossy pagoda]

Just put the naked PCB on a deskpad like Jeroen does, no case required

[dim kiln]

how do i get the stabilizers of the wire? want to put the molykote

[placid blaze]

a solid idea but sadly too risky for me

funnily enough my PCB kicked the bucket recently so definitely too risky for me LOL

[thick mural]

the wooting pcb isnt the best made pcb tbh at least quality wise

the edges are fairly sharp

[neat dune]

Is there anything similar to the tofu 60 case that is compatible with wooting ?

[placid blaze]

despite my PCB dying on me I actually think it's a very well made PCB

it seems significantly more durable than others I've used

[thick mural]

well made yes

[dim kiln]

how do i get the stabilizers of the wire? want to put the molykote @glossy pagoda can u help me with that?

[thick mural]

but i think it could do with better coating and better edges

[marble shuttle]

@neat dune depends how much money you got

[thick mural]

but thats nitpicking

[neat dune]

Trying to stay around $100

[thick mural]

psd60 on aliexpress?

[marble shuttle]

@neat dune go ahead with psd60 from aliexpress maybe 5 degree case you can get it

[glossy pagoda]

The lubing video on Youtube probably shows this

[neat dune]

Cool, thanks

[somber scroll]

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?t=233

[dim kiln]

na it doesn’t @glossy pagoda

[marble shuttle]

@glossy pagoda should we clean the stab lube before doing molykote ?

[dim kiln]

or i am blind

[somber scroll]

I swore that video does go over stabs