🔧│keyboard_modding

[normal schooner]

I like it joost and ed. rock on 🙂

[jovial nest]

Hello guys, do you know if there is a way to re-program the Keyboard to an other ISO?

[teal hill]

which keyboard?

most customs have VIA/VIAL sipport

[jovial nest]

60HE

[teal hill]

Ah

Just wootility

[lucid owl]

You have the Iso version right

wootility can remap the keys

[jovial nest]

Perfect so i can remap to the Swiss Layout?

[teal hill]

yep

[lucid owl]

Yeah just change the keys to whatever you need em to be

[jovial nest]

Alright thanks, do i need to Buy a specific Key-Cap for the 60HE?

[teal hill]

no need

Just learn it from memory

[lucid owl]

Swiss keycaps are prob pretty rare, but if you can find some and they fit the keyboard go for it

[jovial nest]

How do i know they fit before i buy them? Is there like a Socket Size?

[teal hill]

ISO-DE or ISO-SI

[teal hill]

all keycapsets that are made for cherry mx will fit

[jovial nest]

Alright thanks ya'll!

[stray tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[raw ledge]

anybody know if the board will fit inside the anne pro 2 housing?

[mental hemlock]

try

[lucid owl]

No

iirc they have different standoffs

[raw ledge]

damn

thank you

is there a good manufacture that makes them out of aluminum that i should check out?

just want a heavy base

with color preferably

[lucid owl]

You are looking for a case for the wooting or the anne pro?

[glacial seal]

Heavy af? Fjell

[raw ledge]

case for wooting. like the bottom. idk what it's called. the frame or whatever

[raw ledge]

fjell is a brand?

[glacial seal]

Yes. The Fjell is compatible with the current 60HE pcb and plate.

It’s a case

[raw ledge]

okay i'll check them out

thanks guys

[glacial seal]

Not everyone consider them worth the money for the quality but it’s very hefty and it’s compatible.

[lucid owl]

Wooting will be releasing an aluminium case pretty soon aswell

[mental hemlock]

@raw ledge STOP

Klippe T

[raw ledge]

okay cool

[raw ledge]

what is klippe t

[mental hemlock]

Or Freebird60

Another awesome case

[raw ledge]

okay perfect i'll look into all 3 of these

[mental hemlock]

The Fjell is the most expensive unless you’re a baller

[raw ledge]

is it hard to switch out the case?

[mental hemlock]

Easiest thing you can do

Be prepared to do it a lot though if you’re gonna mod your keyboard

[raw ledge]

why

[glacial seal]

Because there’s a multitude of things you can do to potentially affect how the case sounds

[raw ledge]

oooooooo

[lucid owl]

Salvation

🤷‍♂️

[raw ledge]

i'm planning on filling up bottom of case with 2mm of water

[mental hemlock]

Uhhhh…

[glacial seal]

And the the 3 things you care about are looks, feel and sound

[mental hemlock]

Garbage case lol

[lucid owl]

lmao worst take I heard in a while

[mental hemlock]

Not for this keyboard more specifically

Garbage acoustics

Too much flex

[lucid owl]

Its not flex it's bounce

Agree that wooting can sound better in other configs

But just mentioned it since you mentioned price and most expensive cases

and depending on the config it doesn't sound bad

[mental hemlock]

While I get it’s more expensive, I think the Fjell is actually more worth the money

With the brass insert

[lucid owl]

for the wooting it might be

Built my Salvation with a different config, and it sounds better than the wooting ever could

but thats just with tthe limitations of the Lekker switch and the steel plate config

Which is why the PCB stabs and PC plate is a big step in the right direction on the new module

[mental hemlock]

Are you getting it?

[lucid owl]

Probably yeah

Depending on the sound signature of the Path60 they will release I might get the bundle

I like the looks of the Path60 but don't need a bad sounding case 🤷‍♂️

[mental hemlock]

NGL I need to see a pic of it again

Not a fan tho

[lucid owl]

Black cases with a gold accent go hard

And I like the idea of the top left strap

OG case was just cheap OEM plastic tho so discarded it right away

[mental hemlock]

Did you actually

[lucid owl]

it might be lying around somewhere

but used it for less than a day

[mental hemlock]

Lmfao

Bro couldn’t even complete the whole day without changing the case

[lucid owl]

I mean

[mental hemlock]

I dig that

[lucid owl]

I had a good tray mount case ready for it

[thick mural]

my fjell arrived

[lucid owl]

Black Fjell so hot

[thick mural]

it's actually the grey

i took a chance on grey instead of black this time

looks so much better in person than on their site

[lucid owl]

Might be the lighting but yeah gray is sick

[thick mural]

very hefty too which i like

[lucid owl]

Gray/silver matches with alot of clean keycap sets

[thick mural]

and the mounting/spacing is perfect

[lucid owl]

Gray cases look so good

[thick mural]

got 4 pieces of their foam too and gonna test it against the contact zip n fit

but overall really happy with it

[lucid owl]

I wouldn't stuff it with too much foam right away

[thick mural]

came in a week

i know it's not exactly a hollow case so it might even be fine without any

[lucid owl]

Brass insert already dissipates/absorbs sound in a nice way most of the time, one or two thin sheets might just be what you need, but should be fine without any yeah

[thick mural]

just gotta wait for my arm 60he now

my AVR model is staying stock

[wraith ice]

#1070790236419919952 message

@tall hollow

Sound test with a few changes. Sounds much better imo.

[stray tiger]

I've seen a few people review the Salvation case with the wooting and outside of BST, they all said they liked it so not sure why anyone would say it's garbage.

Here is an example of someone who loves it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Fw8Qrit4E

[wraith ice]

Thank you! 😂

[lucid owl]

Sick build

[mental hemlock]

its mr plipps

[lucid owl]

I have the same wuque puller btw lol

[mental hemlock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104768914484895844/1105293883807629433/IMG_9309.mov

[teal hill]

please put the gain of your mic up

i cannot hear it for the life of me

[mental hemlock]

lol

not mines its @wraith ice

[wraith ice]

Did the sound not come through? It’s just off my phone. Nothing spectacular @teal hill

[teal hill]

My earpiece loves it

but my main speaker has nothing

[stray tiger]

Sounds plenty loud from listening on my phone

[mental hemlock]

Probably an issue of skill

[teal hill]

oh it was my dumb phone

i tried it on another phone ajd it works

my apologies

@wraith ice GMK redacted looking sexy

[wraith ice]

@teal hill thank you! Dude it’s one of my favorite sets! Glad it worked. I was hoping I wasn’t uploading a silent sound test, lol

[teal hill]

Lmfao

👀

this is what i got in today

one of my favorite sets

[sharp frigate]

does yours look kinda gold in the light reflection?

mine does its a little disappointing

[mental hemlock]

why is there a watermark

[teal hill]

cuz that’s what happens if I auto export in Lightroom

I take pic with my camera, put it in LR, do edit, export, and watermark

[wraith ice]

Okay that’s an awesome set! @teal hill

[mental hemlock]

lmfao thats funny

[teal hill]

why is that funny

[teal hill]

Thanks! Paid a rly good price too lmfao

[mental hemlock]

that it auto watermarks

just for a picture of keycaps

[teal hill]

I upload most decent pictures i take

[wraith ice]

Where did you get it, if you don’t mind me asking? @teal hill

[teal hill]

Aftermarket

It’s GMK Hallyu, and its a relatively old set

You can find it aftermarket for under GB price rly easy

[wraith ice]

Damn! I am gonna have to look for it

Thanks @teal hill badass looking set

[mental hemlock]

show me your guys key caps that you most like

[teal hill]

Too many good sets imho

[stray tiger]

Way too many

[teal hill]

The set Id want the most rn is still in production

zzzz

[wraith ice]

Yeah I have about 20 sets I want. I just got Terror below and Astral light which I love. Just impatiently waiting

[teal hill]

Oeehhh super nice

[stray tiger]

I probably have a dozen sets I switch between based on the board or how I'm feeling

[teal hill]

Waiting on GMK Hazukara

zzzz

[tall hollow]

indeed, although idk if it is your recording equipment but it sounds a bit like a clicky switch to me.

[mental hemlock]

show me

[wraith ice]

@tall hollow I don’t doubt it. It’s just on my phone. I haven’t done anything to the audio. I know it’s not the best.

[tall hollow]

yeah.

[static tendon]

I like all these sets:

1. Gmk Mizu
2. Gmk striker
3. Gmk mitolet
4. Gmk Cherry Taro
5. Gmk synthwave
6. Gmk vapor wave
7. Gmk skeletor
8. GMK Avanguardia
9. Gmk Nautilus
10. Gmk retrocast
11. Gmk frost witch
12. Gmk nightlight
13. Gmk shoko
14. Gmk hammerhead
15. Gmk zooted
16. Gmk Poseidon
17. Gmk monster
18. Gmk Arabian Sea
19. Gmk honor
20. KBD fans black and gray

You won't be able to get a lot of these though LOL

[mental hemlock]

why are they all GMK lol

[static tendon]

I like GMK sets since they're more "premium" and they offer many color options.
Do you prefer Cherry Profile or OEM profile?

[mental hemlock]

cant say

dont got many keycaps

[stray tiger]

It's crazy that GMK has so many sets and I could name a list of top 20 and probably wouldn't have very many if any at all on the same list as Kosmos. That's why I love this hobby, it's such a personal preference thing.

[thick mural]

nope, what colour did you get?

[empty wing]

anyone know rlly good clear keycaps

[brazen iris]

is there any good cases i can swap with the wooting 60he? i hate the plastic one it comes with, with the strap on it and stuff

[sullen root]

do we know how soon...? thinking about waiting for the aluminum case

[river reef]

You want like translucent clear or transparent

Akko ones are great

[empty wing]

transparent

[river reef]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/asa-clear-translucent-keycap-set/

I got the white v2

Its nice

[tall hollow]

Indeed, and it’s cool to see other people’s ideas!

[leaden cove]

sorry to bother u guys, this company says that this case might be compatible with the keyboard

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002004087370.html?spm=a2g0s.imconversation.0.0.4a103e5fPMG2EV&algo_pvid=f097948b-9ca2-4e4d-bcee-7ce3fa578441&algo_exp_id=f097948b-9ca2-4e4d-bcee-7ce3fa578441-0&pdp_npi=3%40dis!GBP!49.57!42.14!!!!!%40211bf55216835759097537884d080d!12000018381643276!sea!UK!2809071151&curPageLogUid=96lZZXUtlPVG

can u help me?

[near barn]

to anyone that sees this, i'm not super into modding but wanted to ask what some options are for trying to achieve the most silent case to dampen my keyboard

[shell raft]

tbh i really like the look of red and blue samurai, they are very expensive, but at least they are in stock, not group buy

[stray blaze]

Just wondering if anyone knows of plate swaps for the 60HE

Do they need to be special made or will most DZ60 compatible plates work

[somber scroll]

Special made

#🪛│modding_faq message

[sharp frigate]

Black also

[thick mural]

Mine is grey

[stray blaze]

thanks, currently looking at a gasket mounted DZ60 case so might make my own plate for it

got tired of my fjell lmao

[stray tiger]

Ive done that for a few different cases. Let me know which one you're picking and I might already have a CAD file you can use.

[rigid patrol]

Recently added a product called Keebtape on the PCB and a keebmat at the bottom of the Fjell case. The sound from the board now is slightly addicting haha

[rigid patrol]

These are kinetic labs whale pbt keycaps! They are quite reasonably priced. Though…. They have already developed a shine on a lot of the frequently pressed keys after 4 months of use

[shell geode]

This one should work! The standoffs look to be in the correct placement!

[rigid patrol]

But the fit and the color along with the ultra marine is to die for

[mental hemlock]

Pure sex

I’m very picky with my things, but these are solid 7.5

[tall hollow]

3D modeling

[stray tiger]

I just have to make sure that people know the plate files are provided as-is and not guaranteed to work. Don't want anyone yelling at me if they don't work.

[tall hollow]

Lol

I’ve done a lot of industrial design in my life.

[stray tiger]

@tall hollow I forgot to update you but I did end up filming all of those switches on Sunday. I think the new plate is arriving Thurs so I might be able to get the new build together this week and can do a comparison. Just trying to hear the difference pushing them between my fingers, there is no discernible sound/feel difference but it's not likely I'd notice a big difference until they are mounted anyway.

[tall hollow]

Yeah

[tepid garden]

I wonder if theres a way to mod the Hall effect and raise the magnetic feild to get 0.05 actuation or 0.07

[tall hollow]

For me it just sounded less rattly.

[stray tiger]

Yeah I dont think Id notice that unless its mounted

[tall hollow]

That’s a limitation of the sensors themselves, not the magnet or the switch.

So modding the switch won’t do much.

[tepid garden]

@tall hollow I wish they would let us have full contorl of the keyboard to fully make this keyboard the best it can be

[tall hollow]

0.1mm is already very accurate, accurate to less than the width of a human hair.

[stray tiger]

I think you start getting an extreme amount of input errors with such slight differences. I'm not an EE though so ignore me

[tall hollow]

For reference, a human hair is 0.12mm wide

[stray tiger]

If you think there is something that could make the keyboard better that wouldnt cause mass issues, please use the feedback channel and let them know!

[tepid garden]

@stray tiger i mean this would be good for fire and ads and strafing in fps games i love the 0.1mm but with input delay and computing I feel like were just on the cusp of 0 delay input

im sorry im a low latency freak

I love it so much

would be good for playing on high ping server where you can get caught out and cant strafe back in to cover

[tall hollow]

Well, if you want such a setup the limit is your parasympathetic nervous system.

[stray tiger]

I think you'll find that the majority of those issues wouldnt be affected by actuation distances. You're probably already hitting limits with scan/polling rates and overall latency (and human response) delays

[tepid garden]

but thats networking but amazing hardware would help

[tall hollow]

Pay to win networking much?

[tepid garden]

@stray tiger im a freak of nature and I jsut want this to be a thing hahaha

@tall hollow I wish ahahahhaahhaha

[tall hollow]

Maybe if you get more accurate hall sensors you can make it possible.

There are already people who made custom Hall effect keypads when the lekker switch came out.

[tepid garden]

@tall hollow yeah for some reason using rapid profile and continues rapid trigger makes the scanrate/lantecy of the keyboard higher sadly

@tall hollow please link

@errant needle is this for the wooting60he

[tall hollow]

Idk if I can find the design files.

[bronze grove]

Good lord - Calm it with the pings 😄

[tall hollow]

Lol, sup Ander

[bronze grove]

[tall hollow]

Anyways, back to making a hydrogen fuel cell. Cyall in a bit!

[tepid garden]

@bronze grove give us 0.05 actuation or ill eat my wooting60HE

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-chloe-dykstra-wrestling-isnt-wrestling-ana-walczak-gif-19997146

[tepid garden]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-karthi-mouth-open-smiling-face-tamil-gif-14030020665717786579

[mental hemlock]

@tepid garden doesnt it look like a yummy chocolate bar

[shell geode]

0.05? Is that even possible?

[stray tiger]

possible? sure! practical? probably not!

[shell geode]

Right. Not worth the R&D for a difference that can be hardly noticed

[leaden cove]

thanks bro

[idle warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8W_yDvjfoE Ngl this is probably the best sounding wooting that I've found

[leaden cove]

there is not stock for the light springs there is any place that i can buy them?

[shell geode]

Where are you located? US store shows Linear50 are still in stock

[leaden cove]

uk

[shell geode]

If you really want them, you could try the US site

[pearl talon]

y’all think my 60he came out nice

[true niche]

looks sick, which case is that?

[tall hollow]

yeah, @stray tiger did the gummy O ring mount, it does help dampen some noise.

[somber scroll]

What does a case need to be compatible with the gummy oring mount?

[tall hollow]

no lol

its kinda just friction fit in

no screws

[idle warren]

Im assuming this is what stops the pcb from going down further for the gummy o ring

[idle warren]

Wonder if it's worth it compared to the regular o ring mod

[tall hollow]

it is, and its arguably cheaper

no need to buy tiny O rings and longer screws.

[somber scroll]

Cases don’t even need those side nubs?

Or is that a nice to have but not necessary

[idle warren]

I tried to find some in europe, but with shipping and all its like 30 bucks for me

[idle warren]

You mean those holes they use for gasket mounting?

[pearl talon]

KP Poseidon 60 PSD60 Defender DE

[tall hollow]

oof, import and VAT?

in america its like 6 bucks

[idle warren]

just shipping sadly, the O ring itself is like 8 bucks but 18 dollar shipping

gotta love UK shipping

[tall hollow]

here shipping is like 5 dollars

[somber scroll]

No like the little nubs on the sides here

[tall hollow]

thats to support the PCB.

[tepid spruce]

the oring is more for friction fit. the pcb and plate doesnt have cut outs for those posts

[idle warren]

Normally it's the same here, but ordering from a uk store is expensive after brexit

[tall hollow]

some cases dont have them and they work fine.

[somber scroll]

Ah I see

[idle warren]

ahhh makes sense. I havent tried a gummy mount yet.

[tall hollow]

I done it on some of my builds, its a good way to get a bouncier experience with a tray mount design.

[tepid spruce]

if you refer to the bakeneko60 or unikorn60, you'll see how o-ring is implemented

[tall hollow]

so if you're into that bouncy feel, its totally worth it

[idle warren]

Wouldn't it still be relatively stiff because of plate? I wonder how the upcoming PC plate will work

I honestly prefer a softer typing experience but for gaming I don't really mind

[leaden cove]

the us site doesnt let me order

[tall hollow]

you're not from the U.S.?

[tall hollow]

it will probably still be stiff. the PCB is 4 layers.

and it can barely flex

typical keyboard pcbs are 2 layer

so they are much more flexible.

[shell raft]

thx, have to watch it

[shell raft]

but isnt pcb quite high here?

[mental hemlock]

What are you saying

[river reef]

You buy a low profile case.

Or use a really long screw like 12mm m2 and stuff a whole bunch of o ring underneath but thats retarded.

[somber scroll]

@stray tiger you could probably add something to #🪛│modding_faq about gummy oring as well.
Also curious on why you go with 35/40 orings. Is it just for feel? Or would harder/softer ones actually not work with the 60HE?

[stable hazel]

A little bit of a strange request but for anyone w a custom wooting on the klippe t 60 with GMK keycaps, could u tell me the dimensions of your board (l x w x h)? Left most point to right most point and tallest point to shortest point

[tall hollow]

Just feel

Almost any o ring can work on the 60HE as long as it is designed for a 60 percent layout.

[somber scroll]

Does the hardness change sound as well?

[tall hollow]

Probably not

Hardness only really changes feel

[somber scroll]

Ordered 30, 40, 50 and 60 hardness orings lol. Very curious what they will all feel like

[stray tiger]

I actually prefer about 50a for my other 2 o-ring mount boards and because the 60HE isn't specifically designed to be gummy mounted, I find that anything too soft is harder to properly friction fit (the softer the o-ring the larger the rubber gauge?).

[somber scroll]

Wait 60 is harder than 50?

[stray tiger]

Also, the side nubs in the Klippe /Fjell for example do help with keeping your PCB from sliding down too far and resting on the standoffs fully but they aren't required. In fact I just put some silicon/rubber sticky pads/feet that are just slightly higher than the standoffs, in the corners of the case to give the PCB something to rest on if it drops.

[stray tiger]

Yes

I tried a range from 25-65 and I always tend to fall in the 35-50 range. Currently using a 45 in the 60HE I have gummy mounted.

[somber scroll]

Definitely thought it was opposite that lol. Good to know

Can the default wooting case gummy mount?

[stray tiger]

Never tried so no idea

[somber scroll]

I assume unless a case is weirdly large you can do it in most cases?

[normal schooner]

I have seen that question before. maybe its still here if you use the search bar

[stray tiger]

It has worked in almost every case I've tried. It's usually a matter of the case opening being too small rather than too large.

[somber scroll]

Ah. Makes sense

[stray tiger]

The graveshift size medium o-ring are good quality and work well.

[hot kayak]

I use the 40

No issues

[ionic bay]

Am done

This is how it sounds

[stray tiger]

Twinsies

[ionic bay]

haha I wanted to get the purple one initially but I decided it might stand out too much so I opted for the green

[stray tiger]

What plate material did you go with?

[ionic bay]

POM

[stray tiger]

Nice, you'll have to keep us posted on whether or not you get any actuation/input/ghosting issues with it since its a little softer. What hardness tadpoles did you use?

[ionic bay]

tbh I cannot remember they are like a baby blue ones

50A based off Geon's shop

so softest

[stray tiger]

Yeah, light blue is 50a

[ionic bay]

but no ghosting, have been using another POM plate for the last 3 months with no issues absolutely

this was changed in because I corrected some gaps around the perimeter and added some new stand-offs

[stray tiger]

Ahh gotcha. Well good job man, sounds and looks great!

[ionic bay]

ty

[leaden cove]

no,m im noty from us

im from uk

the us page dont have stock

uk

sorry

and us one

[tawdry wave]

Does anyone know a silver aluminum case in the US that is in stock? DM me, thank you!!

[leaden cove]

dont make deliverys to my country

[tall hollow]

klippeT 60 percent case

[shell geode]

US $59.80 | Poseidon PSD60 Case Anodized Aluminium or Coating case for mechanical keyboard Black Silver Grey White Red Blue gh60 xd60 xd64
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNrsRcc I ordered this for my case swap. It's silver, its great for the price, and yes it's not in the US but it took less than 3 weeks to deliver and I live in Los Angeles. If you don't mind waiting 3 weeks, it's worth considering 👍

[desert dragon]

hi ya all
I want to make 60he switch like blue switch.
Is it possible to it by modifying the lekker switch itself? on the spring mod or?
Sorry for my broken English.

[stray tiger]

Your English is quite good. I do not know of a way to modify the lekker switch in this way as it does not use traditional switch parts. The springs and internal housing measurements are different than traditional switches.

[mental hemlock]

i swear some people that dont speak english and want to learn speak it much more formally and polite than people that were born with it

its always hilarious

[desert dragon]

Thank you!!
So...does that mean there is nothing but official springs and some lubes in the switch mod?

[mental hemlock]

Yes, this switch is magnetized so theres no true bottom out

[desert dragon]

I see...
Sounds like it would be difficult to create a click feeling.
My ambition is crushed 😢 thanks guys helping me!

[river reef]

Did spring swap and switch film today

Switch wobble reduced significantly

My space bar no longer nods

[dark saddle]

Niceeee

[river reef]

Still a tiny stem wobble but i can tolerate that

[dark saddle]

I wish the build quality was better so that these mods weren't needed

Honestly my biggest gripe with the Wooting

Never seen Stem Wobble like these Lekkers

[river reef]

Yea gateron need to up their game

Not sure if box design is patented

[dark saddle]

Nah of the Gateron reds or Cherry reds or Kalih Box Blacks had wobble even half as much as these

[river reef]

But that would remove the stem wobble

[dark saddle]

None*

What is wild is there are pictures of Lekkers with a box design out there

[river reef]

Lmao

[dark saddle]

Just didn't happen I guess

https://wooting.io/lekker_old

https://img.pagecloud.com/Br3IfUAqn5uFCBbI4ZDH7PXsIbA=/538x0/filters:no_upscale()/secretwootingstuffhome/lekker-fc5b4.png

[river reef]

Yea cos drunk deer A75's switch has like zero wobble stock

[dark saddle]

https://img.pagecloud.com/DRJgKhHsoMzk0WvbJcAs9jIgdOA=/1084x0/filters:no_upscale()/secretwootingstuffhome/lekkerswitches-ue7c3.png

Shame we didn't get em

[river reef]

Wait wtf

[austere creek]

we didnt get them because huano (who designed them) didnt want to make changes to the switch we asled for

[dark saddle]

We were robbbbed!

[austere creek]

gateron offered switches that aligned with our wishes

[river reef]

Oh they stopped working with huano

What was the change?

[austere creek]

im unsure exactly but i believe one of them was milky housings back then for better light diffusion and some geometry changes

[river reef]

Hmm

That sucks

[austere creek]

we are trying to work with gateron to improve the current switches though

[dark saddle]

Free replacements for everyone within Warranty!

😛

[river reef]

But if anyone want to film their switch, get tx film 0.125mm thick

[austere creek]

i think our modding guru tirade is testing tons of films atm to add recommendations to #🪛│modding_faq

[river reef]

Yea i did tx film cos he recommended it

No major warp if you push it down properly

[pale aspen]

what case?

[pale aspen]

becuas it is bad PBT doubleshot

PBT Doubleshot usually is not 100% pbt

good set doesnt shine easily

kinetic labs pbt doubleshot is in F tier

you have Fjell, just get good dyesub set or high end doubleshot sets

[rigid patrol]

anything you would suggest?

[pale aspen]

you want blue colorway right?

[rigid patrol]

yeah

similar profile as well

cherry profile prefereably

[pale aspen]

https://zenclack.com/products/preorder-pbt-atmosphere

[mental hemlock]

Why didn't those images load in for me

send them again

[rigid patrol]

Oooo

[pale aspen]

https://keebsforall.com/collections/keycaps/products/kfa-white-on-navy-keycaps

these two are what come in my mind

[mental hemlock]

from milkbride

@rigid patrol do you like blank keycaps

[pale aspen]

for gaming, dye sub is your best chance

[rigid patrol]

not a fan

[pale aspen]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/ws-stellar

groupbuy tho

[rigid patrol]

Oof

this one looks perfect

but its group buy so I am not a fan

[pale aspen]

i would just use current keycap and join groupbuy

pepela

[rigid patrol]

this one is looking the best so far

[pale aspen]

yep, i bought for my gf too

so good looking

but not everyone is a fan or vertical gradient

https://i.redd.it/cats-and-keebs-v0-x27znk7li5c91.jpg?s=1e6fb39b0ca11c02b6be332c65d66cad02a034e9

https://i.redd.it/building-a-keyboard-fit-for-a-career-in-the-aerospace-v0-sd0o2d2wabya1.jpg?s=0bfad4cb6eaf81275b66fe1d0f13dfbdaaae0753

IRL pics from reddit

[rigid patrol]

but I might just do this

cause color wise it makes the most sense with the ultramarine

thanks for the suggestion man

[pale aspen]

be quick

iirc group buy end in a day

also Stellar is pbt doubleshot not dyesub

[mental hemlock]

What're the differences

[bronze grove]

One is two distinct layers of material set into each other. One layer for the main keycap, one for the lettering. The other is soaking the letters and colours into the keycap.

[mental hemlock]

sike

blank keycaps for life

[brazen iris]

any good cases for the wooting 60he that are cheaper but aluminum?

[bronze grove]

See the pins for a list of all known cases.

You still need to hunt down stock though. And alu just isn't "cheap" in general.

[mental hemlock]

psd60

[brazen iris]

yeah true

i’ve seen the tofu cases but they expensive asf

they clean but expensive

[mental hemlock]

PSD60

[brazen iris]

i just don’t wanna spend 300+ on this keyboard but i might have to @bronze grove

[mental hemlock]

Poseidon PSD60

[dark saddle]

Wait for the Wooting Alum case

[brazen iris]

damnnn thanks guys

like 60 dollars cheaper now

[pale aspen]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/new-arrival/products/pbtfans-bog

potentially good set for black/grey case

[tall hollow]

Yeah, but there were more pressing issues with the manufacturing which caused the switch from Huano to Gateron.

[idle warren]

Name dropped the case 4 times💀

[teal hill]

Be careful with import costs

If you are in the EU you might get hit with some import costs

since KPrepublic is from China

[stray prawn]

I was checking the third party case compatibility list and I see the tofu60 2.0 on there but when I checked the product photos the usb port area is in the middle and not the left

Is there a model that has support?

[dark saddle]

No

[bronze grove]

They basically decided to make their own PCB in a completely different form factor and design. So the Tofu 2 case only fits theirs, not the "old" standard we're using.

[stray prawn]

Ah okay gotcha thanks 👍

[chrome vessel]

Are you guys planning to add more compat cases to the list as time goes?

[bronze grove]

Anyone from the community is more than welcome to send me examples of cases they've tried and found to work or not work.

"We" don't really do anything.

[stray tiger]

Frog Mini case

[mental hemlock]

Bro wasn’t listening lol

[mental hemlock]

Baller gasket mount case

You don’t want to know the price lol

[tall hollow]

Custom machined steel it looks to be.

Chrome plated too

I’m guessing 1000 usd

[stray tiger]

Its an axe60, someone probably had some parts plated

[tall hollow]

Chrome plated

Most definitely.

[mental hemlock]

$1600 USD

[tall hollow]

Damn.

[tall hollow]

Most expensive keyboard thing I’ve ever seen was a keyboard case made of solid brass and had custom machined metal keycaps and a tungsten weight.

[stray tiger]

As someone who already has a case that I hate touching because of fingerprints, that would drive my crazy.

[stray tiger]

I have a solid brass board, thats the one I hate touching haha

[tall hollow]

The BOM came out to be 10,000+ usd

[stray tiger]

Ive actually considered sending it off to get cerakoted so I can stop thinking about fingerprints. Other people embrace it and want it to tarnish and patina

[tall hollow]

Definitely get it ceramic coated.

Tarnished brass looks ugly af

[stray tiger]

Well it's there are positives and negatives. Positive, no more fingerprints or patina. Negatives, cost to cerakote (not too bad) and since its a limited edition case with less than 20 existing, changing the finish might affect the value (could make it worth more though)

Well its nickel plated brass so it doesnt tarnish like rough brass but its a fingerprint magnent

[chrome vessel]

im waiting for my frog to be re ano'd

[tall hollow]

If you get a clear coat then i don’t think it will change the value by much.

[heady terrace]

any case recommendations for the 60he?

[tall hollow]

PSD60, KlippeT, FB60, Fjell

[mental hemlock]

Klippe T, Fjell

[tall hollow]

Salvation case

[stray tiger]

Check the pinned messages for a link to the modding FAQ or case list

[heady terrace]

can’t find that anywhere in stock i think

[heady terrace]

ooo ok ty

[mental hemlock]

modding faq shilled

[bronze grove]

wot

[stray tiger]

Most of the cases are going to be used, third party or random stock. There is also the official wooting case coming out in a few months

[tight trellis]

Do you know if wooting pcbs are going to be sold separately for custom keyboards ?

[stray tiger]

Yes they will be in the next few months with the release of the Wooting Module (will include PCB, plate and switches)

[tight trellis]

OH !

You make a diy boy happy XD

If you add the 90% version, I will only come to you !

[idle warren]

40% wooting when

[stray tiger]

I'm not part of the decision process, just a friendly point-of-contact for help but I'll pass your request on. But who knows what's coming in the next 6 months!

[somber scroll]

Does anyone have polycarbonate 60% case recommendations? I am have a really difficult time finding one. And/or sound comparisons between acrylic, pc and aluminum? I think I want a deeper case sound so plastic over aluminum (and apparently PC will be deeper than acrylic?) but it seems like pc cases are hard to find

[tight trellis]

Hy cap'tain ! 🫡

[idle warren]

I would personally go alu, but PC is also cool

[stray tiger]

I also love the sound of a good PC case and yes it will usually be deeper than aluminum. Mekanisk made a PC Klippe but they are super rare. I had one that I sold just last month though. Otherwise you can take a chance on converting a top/gasket mount PC case. The Sirius 60 is the one I'm currently working on but there are others as well.

[tall hollow]

Wooting TKL makes a comeback!

[lucid owl]

I have a full thick ABS case

Might still be available but it's green and shaped like a frog

[lucid owl]

Patina is so sexy bruh wut

[tall hollow]

I personally hate the look.

That’s just me though

[stray tiger]

Those are all positives

[lucid owl]

This Wally Patina

🤌

[tall hollow]

Ewwww, nooooo

[tall hollow]

That’s even worse

[lucid owl]

How can you not appreciate the patina

😡

[tall hollow]

I’m a sucker for clean and shiny machine marks.

Not dull and discolored metals

I’m a machinist lol. I really like the look of a freshly milled part.

[lucid owl]

Makes sense

good patina looks amazing tho

🤷‍♂️

[tall hollow]

Beautiful mill marks, clean chamfer, and perfectly polished.

[stray tiger]

I think there is a place for both though. These guys machine out some nice polished stuff and then turn around and patina some of them https://cadlabcnc.com/products/ols/products/forced-patina-anodization

Updated #🪛│modding_faq message with switch filming information and photos

[tall hollow]

Ooh! How did that go btw?

Any updates?

[lucid owl]

Probably my best looking board 😏

[tall hollow]

Noice

[tall hollow]

Taiko sticker

[lucid owl]

🙈

[stray tiger]

I think I mentioned yesterday that there is no sound or feel difference by just pressing them in my hand and I cant test them on my normal switch tester board because Lekker lol. I've got a new plate coming for a build Im working on and should be able to get it together this weekend

[tall hollow]

Oh.

[stray tiger]

Civilizations looks so good on the right board

[lucid owl]

Yup

Bought it specifically for this board

[idle warren]

Looks like a spiral of flames, Definitely a fan!

[warped cradle]

should i buy a Klippe T for my 60HE also pls send pics of yalls custom 60HE's i need inspiration and what would u guys say is the best mods for the keeb

[tall hollow]

#🪛│modding_faq

heres a good resource you can use

[obsidian dagger]

search this channel for pictures, many many 60hes in here already

[stray tiger]

You can also check here for photos https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1070668460905988106

[somber scroll]

Wtf is a 10u spacebar

[tall hollow]

extra wide spacebars

[lucid owl]

It's a long spacebar

[tall hollow]

for extended HHKB layouts I think

[somber scroll]

Ahh

[stray tiger]

10u spacebars are for people who put in half effort. I like full width spacebars

Its like a mini wrist rest haha

[chrome salmon]

What’s the best in stock \ drop in replacement case? White or silver preferred.

[tall hollow]

lmoooo

[tall hollow]

klippeT

[stray tiger]

Best is subjective

[tall hollow]

true that

[stray tiger]

In-stock, yeah go Mekanisk if you have the budget (highest available quality currently in-stock)

[somber scroll]

This is 10u right?

Tf discord?

[tall hollow]

yup

[tall hollow]

they're the same image

[stray tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[somber scroll]

Not on my end what the hell lol

[tall hollow]

thats a known issue on discord mobile

lol

ive had it happen to me

[somber scroll]

Interesting lol. It definitely is showing me my last copied picture. Wack
Hard closing discord fixed it. So odd

[chrome vessel]

wooting 10u

[tall hollow]

lmao

[shadow phoenix]

You posting from mobile? I’ve been getting that bug too

[somber scroll]

Yup

[shadow phoenix]

I was freaked out

When it first happened

[placid blaze]

I highly recommend the keycaps from https://metalkeyboards.no

silicone mod turned out semi-okay 😅

so... some of my keys jam. that's entirely a fault with my application and I will need to scrape it out, but the sound is very nice

After modding I'm certain that I only ever want to use Lekker switches from now on LOL

So... when's the PCBA coming out 👀

[somber scroll]

Sound test??

[placid blaze]

incoming

I'm simply ashamed to make a video while my keys are still jamming

[tall hollow]

oof

[placid blaze]

naw it's not that bad totally usable if a little annoying
I just don't have the time when I get off work to pull out like 10 or so switches, pop them open and scrape out silicone

[sharp frigate]

where the fuck do you buy this

[stray tiger]

Was a group buy from BRB Caps (Beyond Reason Bars). It's closed now though https://forms.gle/w9brY8MK6LHwpQPi7

[smoky pollen]

Guys I have a question when you're lubing your switches are you mixing your lubricant thoroughly before using it or just simply using it right away?
(I've seen on a video that it was recommended to mix the lubricant (GPL205G0) before using)

[stray tiger]

I just stir mine up a bit in case it settled

[bronze grove]

I would definitely stir it a bit at first to make sure it didn't separate in transport.

[stray tiger]

A local friend of mine said real men have a larger space bar

[bronze grove]

[mental hemlock]

Cursed

[smoky pollen]

@bronze grove @stray tiger Alright thank you both!
I'll send pics about the lube before and after stirring it but it'll take some times cause I didn't receive my switch films in the the box so I'm waiting until I'll receive it as well

[stray tiger]

First time using films? Check the modding FAQ for some helpful tips about films

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[smoky pollen]

Yes it's my first time using films or extensively modding a keyboard altogether
So far I'm looking to do all of these
Case: Aluminum case (yet to arrive)
Foam: Stock
Stabs: Everglide pandas v3 + holee mod + lube and dielectric grease (waiting for the films before proceeding)
Switches: lube + films + switch pads (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LHNNFDR @stray tiger Do you think these will work?)
Tempest mod, burger mount mod and lastly sound deadener inside the space bar
Basically everything that isn't related to the switches and lube is done

[stray tiger]

No I don't think they will work well honestly. Read through the FAQ for a little help

[smoky pollen]

So you think I should skip the film process and just go on with just lube?

[stray tiger]

I think if it's your first time modding and lubing stuff I'd skip films with these switches. I'd also stick to doing one mod at a time as the FAQ suggests.

Also the stock stabs are pretty great and you might find it to be a degraded experience after swapping them.

[smoky pollen]

Alright thank you I might start lubing tomorrow or something even tho I already finished holee mod burger mount mod and sound deadener mod

[smoky pollen]

Personally my stock stabs came with little to no lube and especially the spacebar was really rattly

[stray tiger]

Yeah, I do suggest lubing them. The quality of them is great though.

[smoky pollen]

Well I already purchased cause I wanted to go with as much as white to illuminate the RGB even more (might sound crazy but I really went with clear stabs just to make it even tiny bit brighter)

[mental hemlock]

OD

[sacred jay]

saw a lil sound comparison with films and concluded i need them, what are some films you recommend?

[stray tiger]

There are currently no films that fit the Lekker switches correctly. You can find more information here - https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399

[stray tiger]

Was it a Wooting video you saw?

[sacred jay]

nah just linear switches

[stray tiger]

Makes sense. You can film most standard linear switches quite easily with almost any film.

[sacred jay]

ah damn ill need to cut em myself for fitting?

[stray tiger]

Its not a matter of cutting, its that the rails on the Lekker switches are too large to fit the films without them warping

Cutting would be if you want to try it anyway and you bought films that have an additional strip in the middle of them.

[sacred jay]

eh wouldn't be worth the trouble, thanks for telling me

[stray tiger]

If your switches have extreme housing wobble, it might be worth the effort but in most cases it's not

For example, if you have opened your switches numerous times and find they just dont snap back together tightly, you can solve that by forcing a film in them.

[dusky orchid]

Should I use this PE switchpads or this precut poron foam?

[river reef]

What my A75 sounds like now, switch lubed(no spring lube) packing foam+weights and two layer of tape mod, the pinging sound from stock is from plate I think, it sounded a lot less pingy after I swapped stock sponge foam for packing foam and tape modded.

Ngl it sounded so much better than lekker switch

But function wise wooting still holds the crown

[dark saddle]

Anyone thought about a solid space bar

like just a full on chunk

Maybe keys too

Only with a little slot for the stem

[mental hemlock]

its alright

[dark saddle]

Maybe a full cherry wood keycap set

[uneven ore]

Whats the best wooting60he mod to have guys? Any suggestion?

[dark saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/2021-garbage-trash-gif-24252544

[fickle vector]

Ya like warping?

[dark saddle]

Lol

[tall hollow]

Good rule of thumb is that thinner is better. Also for that precut pe foam you are gonna have to cut some holes for the plate standoffs if you are going to use that.

[hollow saffron]

I switched to white, no backlit keycaps, and it looks great -- but not having any RGB can make it difficult to gauge which profile I'm on. So I'm thinking of adding a stylized, backlit space bar... think the Ducky Year of the XXX spacebars. Then, I can run up to 5 LEDs in an informational, non-tacky way.
However, I can't find anything like this online. Anyone have any tips on where I could look?

[stray tiger]

Morning modders

[chrome vessel]

morning

[tall hollow]

Hmmm, clear/translucent keycaps?

[stray tiger]

Even without shine through keycaps you can set the LED brightness to high for either the entire board or a select few caps and should still be able to easily see it, even during the day.

Unless you play in direct sunlight I guess

Well my CSGO bracket is busted. At least I got the 0-3 pick right lol

[tall hollow]

My room has large windows in it and the LEDs on my wooting is still visible.

[stray tiger]

Same man

[tall hollow]

Sunlight is good for you.

[dark saddle]

Skin cancer says hello

[stray tiger]

If you only cut out a slot for the stem you'll bottom out the keycap on to the switch every time. Plus depending on the material it would be too heavy

[dark saddle]

Lol

[hollow saffron]

I remembered a friend of mine has an old Ducky lying around so I asked to borrow their keycap. Not the exact same white hue but that gets buried under the lights :)

[stray tiger]

Looks great

[untold wigeon]

I feel like the only problem is that when you push a switch down the top housing kind of clears under the switch, so if it was solid it would feel like your bottoming out very early

But the space bar is a good idea maybe, like have the left and right side of the spacebar filled and just leaving space for the stab stems and switch

[somber scroll]

Big fan of putty lol. Could potentially do it for the other stabilized keys but they have much smaller cavities to fill

[placid blaze]

so I don't think my issue is with the silicone

the keys are getting jammed when they're on a slight tilt

😭

switches are lubed, silicone modded & filmed

[astral fulcrum]

All of them our only a few?

[placid blaze]

so it seems reproducible on every 1u switch

but some are more prone to the issue

[astral fulcrum]

See if it happens on an unmodded extra switch

[placid blaze]

I must dig out my wooting box

it's somewhere with my other PC component boxes

[obtuse karma]

Usually a sign of over lubed switches

[untold wigeon]

damn that’s smart, I’ve tried it with pe foam but I can’t seem to cut the right amount to make it the way I want it so I gave up

Feel like buying some putty right now

[somber scroll]

No it probably is the silicone

I had the same issue with one of my switches. Was fine up and down but if I tapped the edge it would get stuck. It’s probably too thick so any slight movement that’s not up and down will catch

Iirc the picture with the silicone on the left side was too thick and that’s where it would get stuck. The other one had the right amount

[placid blaze]

well at least it's good to know my lovely jubbly aluminium keycaps aren't the issue

🦍

Will share a ghetto typing test soon

[shell raft]

keycaps can be a reason in situation like that?

[somber scroll]

It could contribute to it as there’s just more weight the springs have to move (and thus takes less friction force from the silicone to stop it) but I’m guessing the main culprit is the silicone. To check you should be able to take the cap off (and even pull the switch) and see where it gets stuck

[south karma]

Does anyone know why the lower rows sound less thocky then the first one?? So far I've only lubed the switches, spring swap, case swap and relubed the stabs. Does seem like it that I would have to relube the stabs on the spacebar xD

[untold wigeon]

what exactly does this do?

[shell raft]

i see, Valo fella

[shell geode]

@south karma What you can also do is put either a layer of tape or some putty inside your spacebar, helps make your spacebar thockier.

[shell raft]

maybe some foam

[somber scroll]

@untold wigeon makes it thockier because there’s more weight and less void

[shell geode]

I would try all three (tape, foam, putty) to achieve the pitch that works for you

[stray tiger]

Because the keycaps are a different size on each row. If you want each row to sound the same you need to find keycaps with the same profile on every row.

[somber scroll]

Woot they arrived. Now I just need a different case to match them a little better lol

[marble shuttle]

does anyone change the stock stabs ? to durock v2

[shell geode]

Also, I don't know if it's just me, but if you're still using the Wooting keycaps despite case swapping and relubing will still have that signature springy Wooting sound

[shell geode]

Durock v2s are screw mounted, but I have Durock plate stabilizers mounted in mine, the stock are decent itself and I find hardly any difference

[bronze grove]

Same. Got durock replacements as well for the heck of it (and cause the white ones fit my case)

[marble shuttle]

@shell geode thanksi also did you any notice on that pc plate ? where can I buy it

[idle warren]

Does the pc plate even support plate mounted stabs

Considering the new module is screw in stabs

[shell geode]

I just wrapped the plate with a 3M carbon fiber vinyl wrap, it's the stock Wooting plate, it's white and my case at the time was black so I just wanted it darker

[marble shuttle]

I want tofu60 :(((((

[fickle vector]

How does the weight interact with the actuation? Any noticeable difference?

[somber scroll]

My spacebar feels ever so slightly slow on the return, but idk if that’s just because I think it’s supposed to be slower lol. I haven’t had any issues

[fickle vector]

nice

Sometimes placebo does things

[tall hollow]

lol

[void mirage]

Hi all, I have a Poseidon PSD60 case to swap out the oem plastic one and was wondering, should I be dremeling off the Teo center standoffs? I see the oem case doesn't even have the most central one but am unsure of the one by the spacebar

[bronze grove]

No need to remove any of those.

[void mirage]

ok, would leaving them alter the feel or anything like that? Im thinkingn the center one might causes a firm spot in the keys around it

[shell geode]

I have the PSD60 as well, there are no softer or firmer spots as the switch plate is metal and quite stiff, the only soft feedback you might feel is if you burger mount it and press down pretty firmly

Good use of the wheel weights, btw! I put a brass plate in mine

[void mirage]

ok good to know. I was thinking of lopping them of for piece of mind. As of now I cut out some squares for the 4 standoffs to serve as the burger mounts until i get some o rings. Yeah the weights worked out pretty nicely. I wanted to do a brass plate but was getting quotes of like $60-80 for a piece from local metal retailers. Gotta love Canada lol. Even amazons 2x12 blanks were over 30 bucks here so made due with the wheel weights. The KB has some nice heft to it 🙂

[shell geode]

It sure does! I like how much heavier the 60he is now 😃

On the other hand, I want to also try a clear resin case from a mold with the PSD60 🤔

[mental hemlock]

why isnt it done yet

[shell geode]

Oh no, I'll get right on it sir, please don't yell at me

[mental hemlock]

That's what I thought. Go out there and make me proud.

[tepid spruce]

do you have a link for the medical tape you used on the switches?

[shell geode]

https://www.target.com/p/nexcare-gentle-paper-tape-dispenser-10yd/-/A-81598995#lnk=sametab

I'm thinking of trying band aid strips next. I've tried the silicone method and I'm not a fan

[somber scroll]

Smh always out here dunkin’ on my gasket maker

[tepid spruce]

is the tape not holding up as you hoped?

[shell geode]

It is holding up right now just fine, it also depends how much lube you are applying to the tape, but I was just considering since its fibrous and it's only been a month, I am unsure of when I have to re-lube

[shell geode]

Haha, sorry! I think its a great mod for everyone to try, I only attempted because of you and/or Ducky, but I'm still chasing the solid thack that's not springy

[somber scroll]

Haha no worries just giving you shit lol

I’m very curious about the feel and sound of tape versus silicone but also don’t want to do that much tedious work again anytime soon 😆

[heady terrace]

whats the actuation force of the lekker switch?

[mental hemlock]

wdym

[heady terrace]

nvm found it

[normal schooner]

welcome another pokemon discord user

[heady terrace]

[normal schooner]

[mental hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/darkrai-pooemon-darkrai-gif-26215527

[warm wing]

what foam should I use for my wooting 60 he??????

[vocal bobcat]

pe foam

[dusky orchid]

What foam should I use for my Wooting on the Klippel T case?

[stray tiger]

Check the pinned messages for the FAQ

[junior glen]

cable from AliExpress is here

[warm wing]

on the motherboard or in the case or both

[vocal bobcat]

on the pcb?

if you want more dampening use more foam

so like sheet of pe foam, poron foam w/ cutouts etc

case foam yea should reduce pinging (if it's in a metal case)

but yes the foam, if using a custom made one, needs to fit wooting, so listen to @stray tiger

[mental hemlock]

just cut one out

[vocal bobcat]

it's also poss. you can make your own pe foam, there's tutorials online for that

[mental hemlock]

people use car sound deadening material with great results

[stray tiger]

I just use polyfill mostly. I rarely use foam

[tall hollow]

Polyfill is easy to find lol

[stray tiger]

And it's like $5 for enough to do 100 keyboards

[placid blaze]

oh

whoops, let me convert that sound test

[tall hollow]

Although Most people buy it to stuff pillows and plushies

[placid blaze]

filmed, lubed, silicone modded, aluminium keycaps, low profile anodised aluminium case

some of my slower typing because of the terrible silicone job

but otherwise very nice to type on

[mental hemlock]

bros got the windows founder team mouse

[placid blaze]

oh and tape modded

[placid blaze]

I deadass switched from a HSK Pro to a trackball

[mental hemlock]

and fuck you

[placid blaze]

🥲

[tall hollow]

Spacebar stabs could use some work. Although that’s just me.

[mental hemlock]

thats amazingly fast typing speed

[mental hemlock]

how come lol

[placid blaze]

honestly just for convenience, it's a lot comfier for me to use this

ironically I now use the gaming mouse for work and the trackball for gaming

[mental hemlock]

bros brain is flipped

[placid blaze]

my K/D/A may not be as good but I feel damn comfy

[placid blaze]

stock spacebar stabs, I added more lube

[tall hollow]

Mushy feeling?

[tall hollow]

I think you heard my spacebar before? Not sure.

[mental hemlock]

ducky please send it agian

[placid blaze]

I attempted to put shrinkwrap on the stabs too but it wouldn't shrink enough to fit into the actual hole

[tall hollow]

Lmao, this would be like your fourth time hearing it.

[placid blaze]

it's so satisfyingg

[mental hemlock]

i need to hear it again

[tall hollow]

I mean, if you went that far with your stabs, mind as well try the Holee mod.

[stray tiger]

Do a search in the channel

[placid blaze]

yeah no I'm not against holee modding I just couldn't find a bandaid

[mental hemlock]

I'd rather the main man send it to me

[placid blaze]

I need to fix the silicone job and the sticky keys before I get to the stabs properly though

[tall hollow]

Oh fine, here it is. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1104233704785719337/trim.BC294F81-E34A-4490-9DB0-C5C421D97B08.mov

[tall hollow]

People do be lazy

[mental hemlock]

how am i eben supposed to look for that

[tall hollow]

True lol

[mental hemlock]

I think @river reef sounds the best

[tall hollow]

Search function

[mental hemlock]

then plipps and gewalt, then yours

[river reef]

The recorded sound test?

[mental hemlock]

yeah\

[river reef]

That was drunkdeer A75

Their switch makes it really easy to make it sound good

[tall hollow]

lol yeah, I could tell that it wasnt a wooter, it aint got that lekker clack.

[river reef]

Basically dampened the case and thats it

[warm wing]

cool keycaps what keycaps are they.

[river reef]

Didnt even relube it

[tall hollow]

keychron keycaps

[river reef]

I have MA profile keycaps on the way, see if it can sound even better

[tall hollow]

its a really nice keyboard yeah, although the software could use some work.

[river reef]

Yep

I asked them to add profile switch macro

[tall hollow]

nowhere near as polished as wootility.

[tall hollow]

ooh, yeahhh.

lets hope they add that soon.

thats a dealbreaker to many

[river reef]

I was so confused when I couldnt set macro on customized actuation profile

They did say they'll add rapid trigger so we'll see

But if you just want it for typing its great

[warm wing]

its so hard to find white keycaps that still let you see rgb and that are budget.

[river reef]

The fact they didnt do gb and just release it with like 2 week preorder is nice too

[tall hollow]

ah, nice

[river reef]

If u want ones thats shine through should get side printed ones

Top print will have these tiny grey areas on legend

But they will be abs instead of pbt

[warm wing]

Thx

[river reef]

If u really want rgb

[tall hollow]

ooh

[warm wing]

LOL Too much RGB

[river reef]

This is too much

[warm wing]

my keyboard sound like this lubed

[river reef]

Yea thats as good as lekker get

Not even tape mod can save it

[warm wing]

It has 3 layer tape mod.

[river reef]

Yea tape mod does like nothing on 60he

[warm wing]

just want some good foam people are saying pe foam but I want foam for my case not my pcb

[river reef]

I did silicone pour in psd60re

But after swapping in fjell i didnt bother to use anything

[warm wing]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-strangle-homer-bart-hurt-gif-16889632

$300 Case

[river reef]

Nah i got it in second hand market locally for 300nzd

And spend 120nzd anodising it black

Its like 570nzd to get one new

[warm wing]

Steal

[river reef]

Yea it was e white and the dude scuffed the paint

[brazen iris]

is the posideon psd60 thick? like I wanna be able to put my thumb on the bottom of the case and still press w a s d with my three other fingers so I want a thin case like this

is the posideon too thick for me to do that?

[river reef]

Psd60 is not low profile

[brazen iris]

whats low profile mean

[river reef]

From the side the case does not cover the switches

Thats low profile

[brazen iris]

I just need a case like the one I have currently thats "low profile" but for the wooting 60he bc I dont want the strap thing on the side and I hate the little lip thing they have at the bottom

have you heard of any low profile cases for the wooting 60he ? @river reef

[river reef]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKLTHUc

[warm wing]

Low Profile Aluminum Case

[brazen iris]

thatll fit the wooting 60he fs?

[river reef]

Yea its gh60 case

[brazen iris]

ok im ordering it rn thanks

do you like non low profile cases? @river reef

[river reef]

More like I dont like low profile case

[brazen iris]

why not

do you not play video games?

[river reef]

Dont like exposed switch

I dont think gaming has to do with what profile case I use?

Does low profile case provide gaming advantage?

[brazen iris]

sorry well ive had a high profile case before and I just remember I thought there was no way I was gonna be able to play games with that

so imo it feels like it profides an advantage yes

[river reef]

Do you use wrist rest?

[brazen iris]

nope

[river reef]

I use wrist rest so my hand doesnt actually bend that hard

[brazen iris]

thats what It looks like

how bent my hand is

[river reef]

Why is the thumb there

[brazen iris]

grip

[river reef]

What

[brazen iris]

GRIP

[river reef]

Cant u anchor properly with your wrist?

[brazen iris]

nooo

ig since this keyboard is my first thats how i am idrk

but I would be slow asf with it for months until I would get used to it

[warm wing]

.10 millisecond delay to hit spacebar when playing game

[river reef]

Wrist too low will give you carpal tunnel

[brazen iris]

is it supposed to be high/

[river reef]

But idk i dont need my thumb to grip the keyboard

[brazen iris]

lmao im probally already gonna have to get surgery tbh

i jitter click 14 cps in minecraft

and been playing games for awhile

[river reef]

Eh i guess thata why you grip keyboard

[brazen iris]

lmao

[river reef]

I dont think normal fps would require you to grip the keyboard with your thumb lmao

[static tendon]

Low Profile vs High Profile

@brazen iris ^

[brazen iris]

well idk it also kinda helps with pressing other things

[river reef]

Idk i like my thumb on the spacebar

[brazen iris]

wait my keyboard isnt that low damn

I can like see the full switches completely

[river reef]

If anything I need the homing key

Cant type without it

Theres no way u can see the full switch

[static tendon]

Means you got a low profile case, nothing wrong with them at all, I like low profiles, people who get custom keyboards typically go for high profile cause they like the aesthetic more along with the sound signature. It changes with high vs low profile

[river reef]

Half of it is under the plate bro

[static tendon]

Haha, got a pic?

[river reef]

Of what, the switch?

[static tendon]

Yeah the switch/plate that you're talking about

[river reef]

Was replying to this

[static tendon]

Ah I see

[river reef]

He said he can see the full switch

[brazen iris]

a pic?

mines like medium profile I think lol @static tendon

[static tendon]

I'd consider this high profile, you can see the switch a bit but it's not entirely exposed like some low profile cases

[brazen iris]

could you send me a couple pictures of low profile casees

not cases I mean builds

[static tendon]

This is my current case, it's very low, you can see the switches quite clearly

[brazen iris]

could you take it a little bit more far away

[static tendon]

Of course

[brazen iris]

appreciate it

I think low-profile is gonna be the fit for me

[shrewd sun]

do you have a link for that case?

[brazen iris]

is this the wooting 60he?

[river reef]

That looks like a ducky case

[static tendon]

It is not, but it will fit the wooting 60he

[static tendon]

You are correct, Frozen Llama Mecha Mini 60% case

[river reef]

That would fit 60he fine yea

I used mecha mini case before

[brazen iris]

does low-profile or high profile affect the sound of the keyboard in any way?

[static tendon]

Yes it does

[brazen iris]

like make it more clakky or something?

[static tendon]

Low profile has a higher pitched sound, a high profile case will have a deeper sound. More noticeable with mods/foam as well

[static tendon]

I don't have a link for just the case, but there is a link to the entire keyboard (Frozen llama discontinued) It was a limited run
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5804

BUT, they still sell the black version here:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5593

[brazen iris]

can you include more foam into the keyboard with high-profile

[static tendon]

Yes, modding would be the exact same, that wouldn't change. Although you may see parts of the mods such as foam and switches even

[brazen iris]

is a higher pitched sound nessecarly bad? could I get a type test

[static tendon]

I would confidently say a higher pitched sound is less desired in the keyboard community

[mental hemlock]

gamers dont care about high or low pf cases

thats just an excuse

[brazen iris]

I swear it isnt bro 😭

[mental hemlock]

Tirade...

[static tendon]

Well in some cases I suppose. I would consider myself a gamer. But I love me a good deep sounding keyboard that feels premium

[river reef]

If u want aluminium variant just get a ducky mecha mini second hand

[mental hemlock]

exactly, me too

[river reef]

Otherwise its all plastic

[mental hemlock]

when something sounds and feels good you want to use it lol

like a mouse, keyboard, woman

etc

or at least looks cool

[brazen iris]

bro 💀

[static tendon]

Now keep in mind a lot of sounds are opinionated, BUT from my past experience I would say most prefer a deeper tone or in between. Not fully higher pitched. I also like clacky boards, it just depends

[brazen iris]

kosmos is your keyboard clakky?

[river reef]

High pitch gets fatigued too easily

[static tendon]

I have 2 keyboards, one clacky, one thocky

[mental hemlock]

Kosmos, i think people think about the wooting the wrong way

[static tendon]

I like the thocky one more, but the clacky is less rattly so I'm currently using that one. Eventually I'll purchase the wooting 60he when the barebones version releases sometime in June 2023

[mental hemlock]

theyre trying too hard to make it thocky when i think they should play to the strength of the switch

i would try to emphasize the plink of the switch more than anything

a plinky keyboard can sound amazing

[hot kayak]

In my personal opinion you can build for thocky but youre gonna get a creamier sounds which is not bad at all in fact probably better in this case

[brazen iris]

I would say my keyboard atm is plinky

[mental hemlock]

sound test time

[static tendon]

What do you mean by "plinky"?

[brazen iris]

ok

[hot kayak]

Ive never heard the term plunky before in any keyboard

Plinky

[mental hemlock]

metallic, high pitched sound

[brazen iris]

lmao it doesnt sound that good

but thats why im getting into modding

but id say it sounds plinky

[river reef]

I wouldnt worry too much about sound on lekker switch

[mental hemlock]

theres just something about the top half of the lekker switch that sounds terrible

[river reef]

Theres just so mich you can do

And it still sounds mediocre at best

[hot kayak]

I actually like the way mine sounds and feels but it might be because i got tired of my other keyboard and needed something new

But ive never had to mod a keyboard as much as i had to for the wooting

[mental hemlock]

people took that badseed tech bid too seriously

[river reef]

I had keyboards that doesnt even have lubed switches sounded better than wooting lmao

[mental hemlock]

no ones really taken the time to actually do normal mods

and trial and error mods

[hot kayak]

Yea that bad seed tech vid is good for like beginners

[mental hemlock]

cant really compare the two though, completely diff switch design

[river reef]

Yea

[hot kayak]

After doing it myself i was just confused as to why he suggested all these mods and then just did my own mods

[river reef]

Lekker switch design is really simple and effective

The one on drunkdeer have great sounds

[mental hemlock]

I think he did it because he could, doesn't mean anyone should do the same

I think if someone did burger mount and a quality lube job it would sound great, no foam

[hot kayak]

The thing is i think bad seed tech is a good youtuber but beginners took that vid to heart with the wooting

[mental hemlock]

like they do with Optimum Tech

hes someone thats good to watch if youre new to PC stuff, but after that theres much better people

[hot kayak]

Yea true

Keybored and alexotos r probably the main keeb content i watch nowadays

[brazen iris]

@static tendon

do you think your case or https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803371117871.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=20951682683&aff_fcid=265c6cb16bab4f988511da35cd09ec5a-1683858387384-01902-_mKLTHUc&tt=MG&aff_fsk=_mKLTHUc&aff_platform=default&sk=_mKLTHUc&aff_trace_key=265c6cb16bab4f988511da35cd09ec5a-1683858387384-01902-_mKLTHUc&shareId=20951682683&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=0cc1c2a6fdfd43548725bbff4e2403c2&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt is better

[mental hemlock]

please nuke those urls

[brazen iris]

what

[mental hemlock]

me personally i would use the PSD60 between those, but Klippe T is my best choice

[brazen iris]

i want low profile