#🔧│keyboard_modding

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teal hill
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The spring only

bronze grove
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Sounds to me like you just want lube literally everywhere.

next scaffold
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Prolly the switch I used wasn’t of quality?

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teal hill
teal hill
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LMFAO

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teal hill
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Does the trick for me

next scaffold
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But isn’t wooting a contactless switch?

wispy wharf
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why not just put your keyboard in a tub of mineral oil and use it like that

dark saddle
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Smaht

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Wicked smaht

next scaffold
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What if I overlube them and it gets on the bottom part then I just mess the whole magnets up

austere creek
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unless ur lube contains metal it wont mess up anything

teal hill
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if your lube contains metal idk what you're doing

next scaffold
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Preciate the help

austere creek
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just dont over lube em

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makes em feel weird

next scaffold
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I’ve never used anything like else besides 205g0 from divinikey lol

dark saddle
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He didn't use lube, he used liquid metal :p

austere creek
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he used the terminator?

next scaffold
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Scale of 1-5 how necessary are they to lube? Especially being housed in an aluminum case? (Assuming there’s gonna be a lot of pinging and ringing)

dark saddle
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They come dryer than the sahara

austere creek
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thats not true

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they are prelubed

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but well its factory lubing... hand lubed will beat it

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by a landslide

teal hill
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well, you can, but with a lot of trouble

teal hill
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you need a special PCB for em

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you can't use like, a normal keyboard PCB

dark saddle
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Or you can. I mean. It won 't work, but

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It'd make a good mantle piece

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Do zoomers have mantles?

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Hmm.

teal hill
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Cuz they're hall effect switches, so you need an hall effect/electrocapacitve PCB(correct me on the EC part if im wrong)

vale beacon
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In modding FAQ, it says the 60HE keycaps are oem profile, this the same for the Two HE

austere creek
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the pcb isnt all too special but theres no HE compatible PCB out there besides wooting HE keyboards and the Apex omnipoint ones. the bigger issue besides PCB is theres no public firmware supporting HE sensors/settings

next scaffold
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@teal hill wait I plan on taking the internals of the wooting and slapping it on another case? That’s fine right??

austere creek
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keycap wise the 60he and 2he are the same including answers for cherry profile etc

teal hill
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use tray mount 60%

austere creek
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so the 2he also shouldnt interfere with almost all cherry caps

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teal hill
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I.E, tofu60,

next scaffold
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I’m using the Klippe T. Literally the only case I could find now

dark saddle
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Not sure how it feels about ASA though

next scaffold
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Tofu 60 MIA. Discontinued rip. Should’ve bought it months ago

austere creek
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just wait till we release our alu case

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austere creek
dark saddle
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I dunno if the ASA keys are part of my problem is all. 😛

austere creek
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start watching from here

teal hill
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ASA shit

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akko in it's entirety is shit

next scaffold
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Joost is the Klippe t okay?

teal hill
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Yeeee

dark saddle
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lol

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Akkos better than GMK

teal hill
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from Mekanisk right?

teal hill
next scaffold
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Dude Akko…. Never again

teal hill
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yeah its nice

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Had a Fjell for a while

next scaffold
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Share pic share pic

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Low key waiting on the GMK Jamon keycaps

teal hill
next scaffold
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To buy GMMK Pro?

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Lol jk jk

teal hill
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???

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LOL

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i have 4 customs atm

next scaffold
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Lmao nothing if you said yes I’d say u smoking

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Share pic share pic

teal hill
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These 4 boards are mine atm

next scaffold
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Sweet!! That looks hella nice, even the Alice Keyboard? That’s Alice right the purple white ?

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Also using a GM lens?

teal hill
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kekw This was taken on a shit DSLR

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Nikon D3100 with AF-S 55-200 ED VR II

next scaffold
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Ain’t no way

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Lightroom skills 👌

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Don’t tell me you used apple edit option in the photos app..

teal hill
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From pic 1 to 4:
Quasi Alice, Copper Plate, Durock Ceruleans, JTK Hana
Mode Eighty custom cerakoted, FR4 Plate, Cherry MX Black L&F, GMK Minimal 2
Custom one off Minitomic, POM plate, KTT HaluHalo, ali caps
Tofu65, brass plate, V1 tangerines, ali caps

teal hill
next scaffold
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I think my fave gotta be the white cap navy blue. Did you use 200mm focal length to get that depth of field?

teal hill
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Lemme check

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185mm

next scaffold
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Dude the GMK white TOO CLEAN!!!!!

teal hill
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GMK Minimal is a really nice set

next scaffold
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Been looking for that for my aurora65 lmao

teal hill
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its avail at

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:)

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fuck

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wrong link

next scaffold
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4th photo focal length 85mm

teal hill
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There u go

teal hill
next scaffold
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Ima check that out

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Preciate the chat

teal hill
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So 120

next scaffold
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In stock? Or currently Group Buy

teal hill
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in stock

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GB was a long ago

next scaffold
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The GMK Jamon group buy is killing me

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So tryna avoid as much as possible group buys

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Where is QODA based?

teal hill
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Belgium!

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He's a really cool guy tbf

next scaffold
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Oh just seen it in the site, do they ship US?

teal hill
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It's just a single guy doing all the wortk

next scaffold
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LOL let’s gooo

gloomy sierra
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Product: Permatex 81724 Sensor-Safe Ultra Blue RTV Silicone Gasket Maker.

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I didnt apply it perfectly but it makes a significant sound difference, much quieter now.

tall hollow
gloomy sierra
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yeah the original keyboard (top) sounds smoother / better to me, but i think its also coz i lubed the springs etc on the brown/red keyboard

tall hollow
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Also your keycaps are at different heights, and uhh, that’s not good Drunk_Finder

gloomy sierra
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wait what

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keycaps at different heights?

tall hollow
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Maybe look down the side of your keyboard and you’ll see what I mean.

gloomy sierra
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yeah its coz the application of the silicone is 100% rng

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so some are 0.1mm, some are 0.3mm etc

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some i had way too much and scraped it off

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some i didnt put enough and it sounds stock-ish

tall hollow
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Yeah, @somber scroll did this mod and he got it relatively consistent by using the stems to squish the silicone into shape after about an hour.

gloomy sierra
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yeah i squished it but it did nothing

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ended up having to scrape

tall hollow
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Maybe you waited too long.

gloomy sierra
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probably USER ERROR

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yeah def

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maybe i shoulda just squished like after i was done applying

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coz there was 0 imprint

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it had definitely cured enough

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i'm just happy that it sounds much more muted now

tall hollow
gloomy sierra
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(as in cured too much to be molded 😦 )

tall hollow
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Yeah, rip

zinc scroll
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Does aneyone here haave a melgeek case? xD Idlike to know if its possible to detach the the mounting poles or if there in the case permanently

teal hill
zinc scroll
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aight, well thanks :P.

teal hill
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holy fuck dont buy that melgeek shit lmfao

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200usd for full plastic? no thanks

zinc scroll
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nah thinking about the resdin case

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just the case

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i like the look of it

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that plastic thing is really rediculus

somber scroll
gloomy sierra
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i swear an hour but might have been a bit more; maybe 1.5

somber scroll
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Hmm. I guess that’s too long. Probably has an initial cure time that’s pretty short because it’s such a tiny amount. I would’ve thought it would be fine up to like 2 hours but good to know that’s probably not the case

mint flint
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its aluminium

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i have the mojo60 and its heavy af

mint flint
teal hill
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Yeah I know, but most Melgeek stuff is plastic

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Also its only a kg

zinc scroll
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Alright, I have another pcb in mind but I’m thinking about putting the 60HE in too 😛

mint flint
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its p solid, man. put the wooting in and its not moving lol

teal hill
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Oh I didnt say it wasnt solid

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you said "heavy af"

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But its only a kg :,)

mint flint
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right but relative to keyboards, lol

teal hill
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My keyboard is 2.9/3.2kg iirc

mint flint
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its obviously not something you need to power clean lmao

pliant sun
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Swapped out my strap :,)

mint flint
teal hill
pliant sun
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Wanted to ask about the cables being too long sometimes and having not enough power. How long is too long?

Also thank you :)

bronze grove
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Stock cable is 6ft.

pliant sun
pale aspen
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wow

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3d print case of MOJO60

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for about $13

mental hemlock
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Disgustang

dark saddle
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somber scroll
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Does anyone know of sound tests between acrylic, PC and poured resin cases? Not exactly sure what plastic poured resin would be (can you get pourable PC or acrylic?) so if it would be the same as acrylic or PC then disregard that

tall hollow
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Acrylic isn’t pourable

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The closest you can get with either of those is Epoxy Resin.

somber scroll
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Ah okay. Acrylic and PC would be machined out of a solid block then?

tall hollow
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Yup

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Or injection molded.

void mirage
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Hi all, question about pulling switches to lube. I bought a cheap kit of tools and was wondering if the there's a tips in using it. I test pulled and lubed one switch and broke one of the tiny clips on one side of it while oulling it. The kb only comes with 2 extra switches so I don't want toscrww myself over

untold wigeon
tall hollow
void mirage
tall hollow
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Just press lighter

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Only bend it enough to get the job done.

stray tiger
# void mirage is that whats causing the breaking of those little tabs. Any idea how long theyr...

Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.

Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l

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void mirage
tall hollow
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More wiggling to be specific

void mirage
stray tiger
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Did you remove the plate from the PCB?

void mirage
tall hollow
void mirage
stray tiger
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Yes, thats why I linked the video

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Makes first time switch removeable much easier

tall hollow
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Oh of course

void mirage
tall hollow
tall hollow
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You might bend them if you do it that way.

void mirage
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good to know! Thanks 🙂

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any advice for lubing itself. I see Wootings video recommends mostly the stem. Badseed says stem and partial bottom housing

tall hollow
void mirage
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ok thanks

short fiber
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are there any german iso keycaps for the 60he`?

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preferably something blue

stray tiger
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@tall hollow those films came in today. Going to try and knock them out this weekend if time allows

tall hollow
stray tiger
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The guy in the reddit post said to grab them so I wanted to try and recreate what he posted exactly to verify

bronze grove
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Ooh. So we can finally measure them and see if they actually touch the PCB or not. havo

tall hollow
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My switch pads do touch the pcb

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And they’re 0.15 mm thick

stray tiger
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I'd have to grab the gauge and check but these are the tripods https://cannonkeys.com/products/cannonkeys-switch-tripods?variant=40773145362543

CannonKeys

Customize the sound of your switches! CannonKeys Switch Tripods are designed to deepen the sound profile of your switches without a mushy typing feel. Available in two hardnesses to let you customize the sound even more! 150 ct per pack Easy to install - Simply peel each tripod from the clear backing and adhere to the

tall hollow
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I used a micrometer

stray tiger
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yeah I can check when I get started and let you know this thickness

tall hollow
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Aight

wraith ice
tall hollow
wraith ice
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Foams going back in. For now

tall hollow
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Good idea

wraith ice
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It was pretty much exactly what I expected. That’s one of my issues with the tofu. It’s an extremely pingy case.

static tendon
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Checking back in, any updates for when the aluminum case and barebones wooting 60HE will release? Around summer time?

Any new teasers of the case or barebones kit at the current moment?

placid blaze
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Hey everyone, any advice on popping out the switches?

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I've just damaged the plastic tab that clicks into the plate using a switch puller

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and I'd rather not do that on multiple switches 😅

bronze grove
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY
Take the entire keyboard apart, only have the white switch plate, lay it on the table and pull like shown.

Always wondered how you can lubricate your lekker switches or grease your stabilizer wire. In this video, we will deep dive on different methods of lubing and some general tips and tricks. Using the Wooting 60HE.

Krytox GPL 205G0 and Molykote EM-50L lubricant:
https://region.wooting.store/products/lubrication-set-krytox-205g0-molykote-em-50l

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bronze grove
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wat

austere cradle
austere cradle
teal hill
bronze grove
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... no?
(The switches are hotswap)

pliant sun
pliant sun
austere cradle
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ok

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can u put ur own text in?

pliant sun
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No

austere cradle
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oh

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ok

pliant sun
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You’ll see why

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Yeah

austere cradle
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send me pls

hot kayak
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I was gonna wait until my keycaps came in but theyre taking too long so theres just pbt caps from kbdfans on there rn, i might add a couple more mods to the switches later but idk this is pretty much done now tho. Before and after test:

pliant sun
austere cradle
hot kayak
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My jtk dreaming girls should be coming in 2 months Max id say and it should make a pretty big difference

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G pro wireless

austere cradle
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nice

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why u got cereal box on display

hot kayak
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Why u askin me questions that arent related to the keyboard modding, but to answer ur question cuz i used to liek overwatch

mental hemlock
austere cradle
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ok

mental hemlock
hot kayak
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@stray tiger the o-ring mount you suggested made a pretty big difference

stray tiger
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Gummy o-ring? Yeah it's a pretty solid mod!

hot kayak
austere cradle
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like keycaps etc

hot kayak
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Yea my bakeneko uses gummy oring so had to do it for the wooting, just didn’t know it was possible until you showed it

lucid owl
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But built mine with Sorbothane strip in the battery slot, 2 layers of dz60 case foam, tape mod en plate foam

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Actually sounds premium for being a Tofu, afraid that the wooting in it will not sound as good tho

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Alu plate with lubed alpaca's if curious, lemme get a sound test real quick

normal schooner
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I need to lube my keeb

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but im lazy

lucid owl
lucid owl
normal schooner
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ayooo this bro got the wooting primary color

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looks dope frfr

lucid owl
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E-yellow Tofu with custom engraving

normal schooner
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you're no mid no cap

lucid owl
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Engraving only cost me like 10-15 bucks

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🤷‍♂️

sharp frigate
lucid owl
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Thanks, my boards are either super clean or super goofy and fun

static tendon
lucid owl
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Current build and sound signature is just not something I want to demolish

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Just listen to this

static tendon
lucid owl
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True

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I feel like switches and caps make the biggest impact on sound beside the case tho

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Lekker switches are just higher pitched in nature

static tendon
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Yeah I agree with that. Caps and switches do make quite a difference in sound signature

robust fog
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I recently found case called "Cora 60%", do you think this will fit wooting 60he?

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It's not on compatibility list

placid blaze
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@somber scroll yeah so I tried the silicone mod and it applying that stuff is SUPER hard

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looks like I messed up application and am gonna use baking soda and water to get rid of my application

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😭

somber scroll
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Yeah it’s quite tedious

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You should be able to just pull it off once it’s somewhat cured

placid blaze
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You think it'll come off smoothly?

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I don't want random bits of blue on my beloved lekker switches

somber scroll
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Yeah I think so. I don’t think it adheres super well. Let me try it on one of my extras

lucid owl
somber scroll
stray tiger
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I'm excited for the 60HE Module. The addition of screw-in stabs will likely remove my ability to gummy o-ring mount it BUT screw-in stabs means you can experiment with tons of top/gasket mount cases and you don't have to modify the plates except for adding stand-off holes

lucid owl
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I'm afraid of switching to non compatible plates tho

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If it doesn't align well or isn't firm enough you might mess with the functionality

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Especially in flexible gasket mount configs

tall hollow
stray tiger
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Yeah Ive made 3 custom plates and have a 4th coming next week.

lucid owl
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custom plates is fine if you leave it in the tray mount config I feel

stray tiger
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Plus the 60HE module will ship with a PC plate so it's going to be a cool change

lucid owl
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Once you start messing with the mounting aswell and add alot more flex to the module is where things might get tricky

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Prob will just pick up the module for the PC plate sound signature and keep it tray mounted

stray tiger
lucid owl
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Hmmm

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Top mount seems interesting then

stray tiger
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You have to remember, even with custom plates there are still stand-offs between the plate and PCB along with foam. It would take a LOT of force to flex that

lucid owl
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yeah ok the stand offs are a must then

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Anyone tried adding PE/EVA foam to the pcb btw?

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Would that mess with the Hall Effect?

stray tiger
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Some people have tried changing out the foam and a few have said it caused an issue so be aware. My next build I'll be using different foam so hopefully I can report back

static tendon
hot kayak
stray tiger
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On the stream this week Wooting confirmed that the Path60 (Wooting's aluminum case) will be available this summer and will be sold with or without the 60HE Module, which is a wooting 60HE PCB that includes screw-in stabs and a PC plate.

static tendon
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Ahhh I see. Ok gotcha, yeah that’s what I’m waiting for. The barebones package of the wooting. Pumped for it

stray tiger
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It wont come with keycaps, but will come with switches.

lucid owl
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Same price aswell tho, but makes sense

stray tiger
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Pricing hasnt been announced yet

lucid owl
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On stream they said the module would be same price as a regular board

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Price of the path60 isn't known yet tho

stray tiger
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They said they are still looking into pricing discounts to buy both the Path60 and Module together and potentially discounts if you already purchased a 60HE

lucid owl
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True but regular price of module they said would be the same as a normal 60HE

static tendon
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In this case I’d assume the module would be cheaper since they are including less parts/items? I can see the case being a separate price entirely though

lucid owl
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And PC plate screw in stabs etc. costs more I guess

static tendon
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Right, but I’d assume the price of the PC plate and screw in stabs wouldn’t match the price of an entire wooting 60HE keyboard including caps and case

lucid owl
static tendon
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I am waiting for the barebones package to hopefully save some money since I’m likely going to go for my own case or use their new aluminum60 case 🤞

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Don’t want the plastic case and their caps^

lucid owl
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If you combo it with their alu case I think there is a combo deal

static tendon
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Hmm I see. I do want the combo deal

lucid owl
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otherwise not worth it to wait

static tendon
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Gotcha, I think I do want the path60 (wootings alu case). Wish I could see a little more of it to make a better decision

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If they don’t have a white version I’ll likely avoid it

lucid owl
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prob be a while before it releases and I think more updates next month

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I think Black is the only version

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Getting Alu in white requires an E-coating and that is usually way more expensive

static tendon
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Darn, hopefully not but I can see that being a likely path they take providing only black. Knowing wooting a white version will release down the line

lucid owl
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Wouldn't get my hopes up but ya never know

static tendon
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Yeah that’s true. I hear the freebird60 is restocking in about 1 month so I’m gonna try to decide by then

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Might continue holding off to get a hold of the new aluminum wooting case if it comes in white

static tendon
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Thank you, you’re awesome for that

lucid owl
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Seems far fetched to me that they will be offering this in multiple colours

static tendon
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Looks like black will be the only color option offered when the aluminum 60 case releases

lucid owl
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Black matches well with alot of keycap sets tho

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I like the design and it will be coming with a strap aswell

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We need more cool tray mounts in the market

static tendon
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Not exactly in my situation, I do already have key caps and everything. Just wanting to do a swap into a white case. Black kinda throws off my color scheme of white and blue

lucid owl
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true, might just wanna pick up a module and a Tofu or Freebird then

static tendon
lucid owl
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Colours match well with the deskpad nice

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Might just wanna use a white or blue cable tho for that full aesthetics

static tendon
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Darn I do like the case. Black isn’t entirely out of the picture quite yet but it is a bummer. Gonna have to think about it

molten tinsel
static tendon
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Looks like a KBD 5° or a replica of it

placid blaze
molten tinsel
hot kayak
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Yup exactly

quaint fox
static tendon
halcyon parrot
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first time modding/changing stuff, anyone know any kecaps that look like this? as in the colourway and the rounded square type look it has

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doubleshot pbt preferred

trim ravine
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Just curious, but does anyone know if a HyperX coiled cable should be okay for the Wooting 60?

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Cable Specifications

Total Length: 4.5ft / 1.37m
Straight Cable Length: 3.9ft 

Coiled Length: 5.7in
Coiled Inner Diameter: 0.6in
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Since its less then 6 ft I have to imagine its good to use for the Wooting and won't cause power issues

dark saddle
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Can only test

dark saddle
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Remember yo uwant the cable to be thicc too

trim ravine
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I mean I already have one on my current setup, so I mean testing it won't hurt anyways

stray tiger
prime orbit
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Anyone have a case recommendation for the 60he

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Just got it and the tofu60 case is discontinued

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So idk what to get

prime orbit
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Ah thank you!

trim ravine
stray tiger
static tendon
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Alright for those wondering I have watched some of the stream here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1811969867?t=0h24m12s
Thanks @lucid owl for the link

Some summarization of what I've watched:
The Wooting barebones (PCB, plate, switches) will release sometime in June - (37:30 into the video) (price will be same as 60he)
Aluminum Case - will only come in a black color for now (25:52 in the video) (Wooting case will be at 4 degrees, different rubber feet to raise height)
Coiled cables will be offered from Wooting likely around june

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mental hemlock
stray tiger
static tendon
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I was wondering the same thing earlier, apparently it has some slight upgrades such as the plate, some slightly revised switches and they will include a bundle deal when purchased with the alu case

mental hemlock
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Oh fuck yeah

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Thank you

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Did it sound better or no sound tests?

static tendon
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No sound tests at the moment

stray tiger
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You ask that a lot and I keep telling you that better depends on the person and what they are looking for.

static tendon
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At least not in that video^

stray tiger
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Will it sound different. Yes it will

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I'm trying to explain that what sounds better to you may sound worse to me or someone else. There is no better, there is only different.

mental hemlock
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I beg to differ

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Majority rules like a deep thock from what I’ve seen

stray tiger
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I prefer a clackier board so I have just disproved your point.

static tendon
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Typically aluminum cases provide a slightly higher pitch sound, with foams and some mods it can deepen the sound

mental hemlock
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Majority

stray tiger
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I think majority likes creamy. I can make up stats too.

mental hemlock
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Haha but you have such a grudge with me asking for how something sounds

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I don’t understand

stray tiger
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Although I'd love for someone to tell me what creamy sounds like. Is it like milky? Or closer to cheesy?

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I don't have a grudge with asking how something sounds, you just keep asking is it better and no one can answer that for you.

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If you had said "Does it sound thockier/deeper because that's what I prefer? " That can be answered.

mental hemlock
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I mean better in the sense of objectively better than how the stock Wooting sounds

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We both know that’s not winning any awards in terms of sound

stray tiger
#

Again, that can't be answered. Objectively or subjectively

#

I may think it sounds worse, you may think it sounds better. There is no way I can decide that for you.

mental hemlock
#

You don’t have to lol

#

It was also a question I had for @static tendon

stray tiger
#

So if he also prefers clacky boards and says it sounds better because it's clackier, would you agree with him?

mental hemlock
#

Well I could answer that if I heard it, then I would tell him that he’s wrong

stray tiger
#

Lol

static tendon
#

I'm so so with both, I do like thock I guess, but clacky keyboards remind me of rain drops. It's a worm hole for some, I understand why some people own multiple boards

stray tiger
#

You would tell him he is wrong for thinking something sounds better to him?

mental hemlock
#

Absolutely

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It’s about how it sounds to me

stray tiger
#

You literally just agreed with my entire argument lol. Thanks! Enjoy your evening, I'm out.

mental hemlock
#

Haha have a good night my man

gloomy sierra
# placid blaze You think it'll come off smoothly?

i put too much and spend around 20 seconds per switch with a sharp screwdriver reducing it to stop interference. IDT you can 100% remove, but can remove it enough so that it works beautifully. If you want to 100% remove / undo the mode, yeah probably need to soak the part in something.

#

(assuming you're talking about the permatex blue stuff)

pale aspen
#

i just bought tofu BNIB e-white for $40 and seller included these standoffs too

hot kayak
#

no

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gummy o-ring is when you put a band around your pcb/plat and squeeze the whole board in to your case

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instead of screwing the board into the case

boreal latch
#

What exactly is pc? A polymer?

untold wigeon
#

Does anyone know where to get stiffer springs for the lekker switches?

austere creek
austere creek
untold wigeon
austere creek
#

depends on if you need the probably 1k springs or so

#

companies wont just make 100 for you as its not profitable enough

untold wigeon
#

yeah that’s my concern

pale aspen
#

i hope there is a discount for og wooting buyer

dark saddle
#

Actually you get charged more.

wispy wharf
#

Special negative discount

robust fog
bronze grove
#

Bundle is a strong word. You have to add all of the items to the cart separately.

#

The case by itself is one item.
And then the module, which is a 60HE except for the case and keycaps (and with the different PCB and plate)

robust fog
pliant sun
bronze grove
#

White strap.

dark saddle
#

Make the strap out of Aluminum too

wispy wharf
#

Case made entirely of high density elastomer for maximum quiet

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Been done?

hot kayak
#

Most definitely not

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Maybe it has but seems unlikely

dark saddle
#

Anyone done a case made of Concrete?

placid blaze
#

watching my stems sway every time I place them down after lubing hoping they don't all create a rat king of stems

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😭

#

Wooting moment

wispy wharf
dark saddle
#

lol

wispy wharf
dark saddle
wispy wharf
#

What is this a bachelorette party

normal schooner
placid blaze
wispy wharf
#

Are they in little pockets

placid blaze
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so every time I'm about to place a new stem down there's the chance that they all create a gigantic stem tumour

wispy wharf
#

Or you send them flying

placid blaze
#

yep, but the magnets are facing up 😅

#

true

wispy wharf
#

Rat king makes me think of shadow run Hong Kong

placid blaze
#

literally this but all my stem rails have 205g0 on them so it's a slippery mess every time I take them apart

wispy wharf
#

Did u bag lube your sprongs

placid blaze
#

yessir

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105g0 5 drops and shook it like a madman for 5-10 mins

wraith ice
placid blaze
#

also the design of the Lekkers has me wondering why we don't have maglev keyboard switches outside of analog switch keyboards

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we could totally have maglev switches and remove the spring component entirely though I suppose it'd be hard to get even force set up

wispy wharf
wispy wharf
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Like the Boba tea ones

wispy wharf
chrome vessel
#

what's a case y'all rec? I see the psd is commonly used

bright spruce
#

its most commonly used cuz its the easiest to actually buy

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pretty sure the actually most popular ones are the tofu60 the klippe t and the fjell

placid blaze
# wispy wharf Magnetic fields don't work like that

This is one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. Someone 3D-printed magnetic levitation switches with adjustable tactility and travel. Also, it's analog-Hall effect. And hot-swappable. And it's contactless. Jeez! The creator is called Riskable and he called them Void switches and I'm DEFINITELY keeping an eye on this project!

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tall hollow
placid blaze
#

proof of concept definitely exists but they sound awful

tall hollow
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they're 3d printed

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what do you expect lmao

normal schooner
#

sounds cool

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doesnt work

tall hollow
normal schooner
#

I mean yes, but I think you will run into issues later

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we shall see

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From what I learned in my mech engineering classes

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a product should solve 1 problem

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for sure if they hire Drew Pavlou

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XDD

placid blaze
#

I'm so tempted to bag lube the stems

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the tediousness of modding switches is getting to me

#

LOL

#

I don't have experience fisting jars of mayo

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but I'll take your word for it

mental hemlock
#

Yours will sound better than the majority of people that just lube the stems

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No need for films either

placid blaze
#

I have lubed my bottom housing

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can't bag lube those though

mental hemlock
#

Perfect

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Yeah unfortunately

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Bag lube the springs then and that’s it

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And light on the stems

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You’ll love it

placid blaze
#

yeah, I tested some of the switches with my ghetto silicone application and it seems pretty good honestly, even with films the software works well

#

but getting rid of excess silicone is a pain

mental hemlock
#

I can’t wait to hear it brother

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I know it’s gonna sound great

tall hollow
#

indeed

placid blaze
#

yeah I've been neurotically planning it out for ages

#

still need the pcb/plate silicone to come in but the foam is rlly good anyways

mental hemlock
#

Mr @tall hollow, what do you think about the new PC plate?

shut aurora
#

what is the best type of case for a keyboard ?

tall hollow
#

Aluminum

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Well actually

austere creek
#

aluminium*

tall hollow
#

Depends on your preference

tall hollow
bronze grove
#

Even America agreed for a while.

idle warren
tall hollow
idle warren
#

The correct term is (AI)

mental hemlock
#

Aluminum boys rise up

tall hollow
#

Aluminum!!!!

placid blaze
#

too late now tho, I'm like 21 switches in

lucid owl
stray tiger
#

I can't decide if I dislike lubing switches or if I enjoy the down time of not thinking about anything else.

fading holly
stray tiger
#

I couldnt even tell you how many I've lubed over the years but I can tell you this is my 3rd time lubing lekkers. Going to try bag lubing the springs this time around and testing out some films to see how it goes.

fading holly
#

I've had to look up bag lubing. First time I hear about this. Is this just something you do on the springs or other components as well?

stray tiger
#

Springs only but I'm trying to knock this job out quickly so I'm cheating on the rails too and will probably skip the stems since I'm heavily bag lubing the springs . Just stick em together and knock out the rails in a group lol

stray tiger
tall hollow
#

well I hope it goes well for you!

stray tiger
#

They will either fit well or they won't! I'll keep you posted. The switch tripods though are a big no. Don't bother with those.

tall hollow
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lmao

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yeah bad seed had a hard time with those

stray tiger
#

Oh I didn't even see that or I'd have skipped them lol

tall hollow
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ah, lol

stray tiger
#

@tall hollow not sure how well you can see these with my potato camera

tall hollow
#

but I was still able to snap the housings together

stray tiger
#

I'm sure they will snap together. When I'm do e lubing I'll film a few and see what it feels and sounds like

tall hollow
#

aight

mental hemlock
#

Please do, would like to see how they sound

tall hollow
#

it might sound like mine, because ive filmed my switches and put on switch pads as well.

stray tiger
#

I won't have any pads and these switches won't be going into a build until my plate gets here next week but I'll do a comparison of one or two in one of the already built boards

tall hollow
#

I see

mental hemlock
#

I wish you luck bro

#

Aluminum plate?

#

@stray tiger

stray tiger
#

Yes, that's my preferred when I go customs cut because FR4, Titanium and Carbon fiber are 3x as much. I can get an aluminum plate cut for $50 and the others are $150+

mental hemlock
#

Ah ok

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That’s awesome

hot kayak
#

I use wuque films also, pretty solid once its in

lethal temple
stray tiger
#

I'm sure there are cheaper places out there. This is a US based company that I know and have done business with for a long time and the turnaround time is usually a week (plus I like aluminum!)

river reef
hot kayak
#

But ye films help a lot

hot kayak
river reef
#

Yea the stem needs improvement

#

Maybe change to those dustproof stems

stray tiger
#

If you guys missed the stream earlier this week Erik mentioned that the batches of switches arriving soon have a little better tolerances and be closer to the original designed spec and the stem wobble should be improved.

river reef
#

Yea but that means we gotta spend more and re lube everything again lol

stray tiger
#

These wuque films do warp when installing but the case does snap together ok. No reduction in stem wobble and my housings were already pretty tight.

river reef
#

My switch housing wobbles on the plate

stray tiger
#

He said it's not worth buying new switches.

river reef
#

And the stem made it worse

stray tiger
#

Wobbling on the plate won't be reduced with films. You can always put some thin tape on the plate cutouts if your plate wobble is excessive

river reef
#

But yea idk, got the drunkdeer A75 last week and it has no wobble

wispy wharf
#

So it'll be better but not enough to replace

tall hollow
lethal temple
wispy wharf
#

I don't have my board yet. Said mod July when ordered. Is the stem wobble like unbearably bad?

tall hollow
#

It’s ok

#

It’s not the worst, but also not the best.

#

I’d say it’s about “average” amount of wobble.

wispy wharf
#

Like cherry amounts of wobbly or?

stray tiger
#

They are very similar to the popular Gateron milky yellows. Not excessive by any means but not as tight as box stems

river reef
#

Box stem would make it a lot better

wispy wharf
#

So like a typical gateron level

river reef
wispy wharf
#

Hmm

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Concerning

river reef
#

Like my space bar can do this nodding wobble

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And so can my esc key

wispy wharf
#

That happens on my ducky board with the spacebar

#

Lot of the keys are pretty wobbly

river reef
#

Idk but my ducky one two mini didnt do that

wispy wharf
#

I have the regular one 2

river reef
#

It reminds me of old razer keyboard

wispy wharf
#

Housings on a lot of the switches are loose

#

Maybe a bad batch

wispy wharf
river reef
#

Like the wobble is as bad

#

But other than that its fine

wispy wharf
#

And it's unfixable

river reef
#

Yea thats the thing

wispy wharf
#

Gross

river reef
#

I guess a little wobble helps if u do 0.1mm actuation tho

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So you just wiggle it a little and it triggers

wispy wharf
#

That sounds like a bad thing

river reef
#

Dont actually have to push it down

wispy wharf
#

That sounds very bad

river reef
#

I mean like unless you are just sitting there fiddling with the space bar

#

Its ok

#

No accidental actuation

wispy wharf
#

Should I just get a different board

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That can use better switches

river reef
#

Its not bad by any mean

wispy wharf
#

Ok

river reef
#

And software is great

wispy wharf
#

Ok

river reef
#

I also got the drunkdeer A75 last week

wispy wharf
#

But does it type better than cherry

river reef
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Theres no wobble

#

But no rapid trigger either

#

I can tell the dif in game

#

What do you mean by type better than cherry

#

Cherry has never really been that great(?

#

Or am i missing something

wispy wharf
#

i mean like

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does the wobble make typing on it worse than mediocre switches

placid blaze
#

I haven't used a lot of keyboards but the Wooting 60HE is the only keyboard I've ever typed over 160WPM on

wispy wharf
#

whoa

placid blaze
#

other keyboards I could do 130-150

wispy wharf
#

rapid trigger?

placid blaze
#

yeah, but rapid trigger doesn't help a TON for typing speed

#

I think it's just the custom actuation

#

except for the spacebar maybe

wispy wharf
#

do u have a custom actuation different for different switches

placid blaze
#

not for typing

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it's useful for games though

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WASD on 0.6mm compared to everything else at 1mm for example

wispy wharf
#

but does it feel good

placid blaze
#

in terms of feel the Wooting 60HE is the best feeling keyboard I've ever type on/played with

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I have not used a large variety of boards though other than doing typing tests at ppl's houses 😅

wispy wharf
#

so the wobble doesn't hinder that

placid blaze
#

honestly the stem wobble is annoying but it doesn't affect the keyboard to a point where it's noticeably less enjoyable only due to the stem wobble

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that being said in a perfect world it wouldn't have any stem wobble

#

they are definitely the wobbliest stems I've ever used, but the raw performance of the board outmatches that in my experience, YMMV

wispy wharf
#

i feel like i might go insane

glossy pagoda
#

The fact that there is some amount of wobble in the stems is in part a design choice related to the construction of the stem itself for the purpose of creating a buttery smooth typing experience.

wispy wharf
#

like maybe tight housing and loose stem is better than the other way around

glossy pagoda
#

Out of the box, factory lubed, the switches feel pretty great. But the keyboard simply isn't going to compete with a true top of the line custom with a custom lube job

placid blaze
#

So I can't comment on whether or not that's just marketing jargon but I can't disagree since it is my favourite keyboard to type on hands down

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for all intents and purposes the loose stems could contribute to that

wispy wharf
#

well as long as it feels better to type on than what i have now i will see

river reef
#

The thing is like

placid blaze
#

if it's specifically for typing the A75 will likely give you the same experience

river reef
#

The keyboard has a lot of things great about it

placid blaze
#

if you want to be an epic gamer though the Wooting beats everything imho

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plus you can mod it

river reef
#

And the smallest issue gets amplified

glossy pagoda
#

Worst case, if it's not for you, you can always return for any reason within 30 days and get a full refund, just have to cover the return shipping costs in that scenario

river reef
#

A75 cant do case swap which is kinda bad

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Cos its light af

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Im gonna get some tyre balance weight for it

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But A75 def have better acoustic

wispy wharf
placid blaze
#

yeah I'm waiting for a Wooting that fits the 40% PCB standard

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would be the best keyboard of all time at least in my eyes 🥲

wispy wharf
glossy pagoda
river reef
#

@glossy pagoda apparently drunkdeer is gonna implement rapid trigger soon

wispy wharf
#

would tape mod be single biggest sound improvement mod?

glossy pagoda
wispy wharf
#

i saw it but there are a lot of mod videos

placid blaze
#

in my experience having freshly moid

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ded my kb today, it'd be lubing tbh

wispy wharf
#

ok that makes sense

glossy pagoda
placid blaze
#

that and anything to stop stab rattle since we use the spacebar so often

tall hollow
wispy wharf
river reef
wispy wharf
#

i would straighten it if i didn't have to solder to do so

tall hollow
river reef
#

And its from razer switch oem i believe

tall hollow
#

eh, not really, their switches have a box design.

river reef
#

The one has magnet on the side instead of middle like wooting

dark saddle
#

Box design best design

river reef
#

Box would have less wobble yea

tall hollow
river reef
#

Biggest complaint about drunkdeer is the case feel so cheap and light

#

Other than that it feels quite good

icy apex
#

Any recommended cases for moding the 60he? I did some digging and found the freebird60 and KlippeT60 but I was wondering if there are any other compatible options in stock.

tall hollow
#

sound?

river reef
#

Mine came with zero stab rattle

tall hollow
#

PSD60

#

lemme link you to the list of compatible cases

river reef
#

Theres plenty

#

Can confirm that is exactly how it sounds like

#

Out of the box

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Its hilariously well done for a cheap feeling board

tall hollow
river reef
#

I mean

#

I got it for like 120usd

#

I think i can live with spring ping

tall hollow
#

lol

#

a little lube can help with that

river reef
#

And the sound is more from the empty as case

tall hollow
river reef
#

I put some silicone pads in it and it sounded much cleaner

tall hollow
#

nice

wispy wharf
#

silicone pads?

river reef
#

Will see how it goes today after I put tyre weight in it

normal schooner
river reef
#

Couldnt find any store that has lead weight

normal schooner
#

fishing shops sell lead weight

tall hollow
river reef
#

Nah it has to be like 3mm thickness

#

So tyre weight is perfect

normal schooner
#

haii haii

river reef
#

But all the mechanic workshop that give a shit about worker safety changed to use powder coated iron instead of lead

normal schooner
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hahaha

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sounds all too familiar

tall hollow
normal schooner
#

I went climbing with a friend. my office worker body is not used to this. it hurts

#

next week going again

#

how are you

tall hollow
normal schooner
tall hollow
normal schooner
#

broo i need to lube my keeb

#

but i cant find time

tall hollow
#

lolz

lucid owl
#

There is always time, wether you spread it out or do it all at once

stray tiger
#

Going to paste this in every few hours as it seems it's not known it exists yet.

normal schooner
lucid owl
#

These have been like this for 2 days

#

Prob have time to lube 10-20 tomorrow

tall hollow
#

lmao

lucid owl
#

Just work at your own pace and lubing can actually be fun or chill

#

most of the time I actually find time to lube some during my customer service work activities

stray tiger
#

I've been going for an hour today on and off so far and only about 25 done but they are all disassembled and springs are lubed

lucid owl
stray tiger
tall hollow
#

Noice

stray tiger
#

OK back to lubing. Got derailed making dinner. Greek lemon chicken soup with orzo and roasted red pepper humus

tall hollow
#

Nice!

mint oracle
#

Hey all, Ive checked the subreddit and searched in chat history but I havent seen anything where I can buy stiffer springs for my Lekker switch analog keys to help control the analog movement

#

Can anyone refer me to where I could get custom springs for the Lekker switches?

#

Would like to try stiffer springs

stray tiger
#

There may be some out there but nothing from Wooting. If you attempt to source them yourself remember they are a larger diameter than normal springs and they must not interact with magnets

mint oracle
#

Thank you, thats what im hoping to find out from someone with more experience on if they have a good seller for non-magnetic stiffer springs that fit the lekker switches. I dont know what material or diameter i should go for

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Or where to look

mental hemlock
#

the same material Wooting springs are made of

shell geode
#

@tall hollow Hey man! I forgot but you did the silicone mod where you applied a small amount of silicone to the top housing?

mental hemlock
#

@stray tiger

somber scroll
tall hollow
frozen estuary
#

I just realized that since every key has a light, you could technically make (vague) pixelart kekw

#

Also, where do people find those 3d keycaps, like the ones that are mostly used for the Esc key only.

sullen root
frozen estuary
lament turret
#

Anyone put the 60he in a normal ducky one 2 mini case?

normal schooner
#

you could try the search bar and dm the person asking politely for their toughts @lament turret

placid blaze
#

🤝

teal hill
#

If you look on this website, and have a peek at some random makers, you can see their designs

#

Anyways! GMK Hallyu comin in today happyhappyhappy

obsidian dagger
#

kinda sad how theres thousands of cool keycaps but few can be had. cool site tho

glacial seal
#

Majority are one off group buys

stray tiger
#

The world of artisans is crazy. You can always find people selling some and changing up their collections but artisans are usually fairly pricy can can range between $50-$100's per cap.

#

I used to have over a hundred and Ive reduced down to about 20-30 now

idle warren
#

Has anyone experimented with PE foam? I bought some IXPE foam but have no clue if it could cause issues

idle warren
#

it's 0.5mm thick

stray tiger
#

Go for it. Some people have reported odd input issues when replacing the plate foam but assuming it doesnt change the spacing between between the PCB and plate (meaning you can still screw all of the standoffs back together fully) it should work fine in theory.

idle warren
stray tiger
mental hemlock
#

Since we’re sharing food

#

A nice and simple shrimp Alfredo with Angel hair, not pretty but heartwarming

teal hill
#

Hallyu has arrived!!

umbral quest
#

What would you say is the best budget aluminum white keyboard case you can buy right now, obv for wooting 60he. Tofu 2.0 is quite expensive.

stray tiger
#

Tofu2.0 is not compatible

normal schooner
#

imo theres no best budget

mental hemlock
#

if not get the psd60

#

@umbral quest

umbral quest
#

Thanks

mental hemlock
#

ask mansen to make it more known

stray tiger
#

It's in open review so I havent pinned it yet

mental hemlock
#

okok

shell raft
stray tiger
shell raft
#

ohhhh

#

😦

stray tiger
#

There are top/gasket mount boards out there that would work if you create a custom plate and have it cut, but the Tofu2.0 isnt one of them

tall hollow
obsidian dagger
#

has anyone found some keycaps for the macro keys on the 2HE? I could just leave them as-is but I'd like to get them more in line with my other keycaps. However, I can barely find any for these keys. Blanks are an option but maybe I'm not searching in the right places.

bronze grove
#

I mean they're just bogstandard R(ow)4 keycaps in OEM profile.

#

Could always invest in the NFTs of keyboard enthusiasts, artisan keycaps 😄

#

40 bucks a pop or more.

obsidian dagger
#

yeah those are a bit too expensive for me. I'd ideally just like something like that in various colors or sth

#

novelty sets have few r1s

#

I just found it odd that so few sets have these keys.

teal hill
#

You can just get a random PBTfans keycapset

#

They cost like

#

80 bucks for a full set and mostly have like the macro caps

leaden cove
#

guys

#

for stabilizers

#

6.25U or 7U?

stray tiger
#

A lot of the more expensive kits will sell the macros as an add-on (mainly GMk)

#

6.25u

obsidian dagger
teal hill
leaden cove
#

thanks bro

teal hill
teal hill
leaden cove
#

i forgot

#

what size?

teal hill
#

6.25u

shell geode
# tall hollow I tried it and I didn’t like it very much.

I tested on one switch last night, I waited 30 minutes after application to put the switch together so the stem can flatten the blob before curing, it sounds good so far, I'll pop it on a key and play a game to test it. I left it as a blob last time, and the upstroke was too muted and wasn't satisfying

leaden cove
#

1.6T vs 1.2T

teal hill
#

1.6

obsidian dagger
teal hill
#

That means size of PCB

stray tiger
teal hill
#

So 1.6 for the wooting iirc

leaden cove
#

for 60he

#

is it the same?

teal hill
#

ye

leaden cove
#

thanks again guysa

obsidian dagger
stray tiger
#

I'm saying that not all PBTfans sets are all-inclusive, some do have add-on kits such as that example.

leaden cove
#

are this stabs good?

#

TX Stabilizers (Rev 3)

obsidian dagger
teal hill
stray tiger
somber scroll
#

Hell yes my caps are coming

teal hill
#

theyre good stabs in general

#

Why bad for wooting hmmge

teal hill
stray tiger
teal hill
leaden cove
#

guys

#

is this case compatible with 60he?

teal hill
#

yo

leaden cove
#

sorry that i am askin g a lot

teal hill
#

should be

leaden cove
#

i want to mod my keyboard

teal hill
#

Tehre's a chart for case compat

leaden cove
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where?

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and thanks for the answers

teal hill
stray tiger
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That case doesnt look compatible. The stand-offs are in the wrong location

teal hill
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yeah stand-offs are in the wrong place

stray tiger
tall hollow
leaden cove
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so

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the case is for anne pro 2

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i cant find it in the compatible cases page xd

stray tiger
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Yeah its not compatible, the stand-offs arent correct

leaden cove
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thanks

stray tiger
# leaden cove thanks

The Path60 (official 60HE aluminum case) is coming soon so if you are ok waiting a bit that would be a great choice!

leaden cove
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thanks dude

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i would like a resin one

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😂

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i cant find any

stray tiger
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check aliexpress

chrome vessel
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where to find plate file? i want to make one for frog mini compat

hot kayak
chrome vessel
stray tiger
# chrome vessel merci thank you

That file is provided with the disclaimer that it should be verified and reviewed by you and I make no promises that it will work. While I had no issues with it that doesnt mean you won't. As always, try 3d printing it first before paying to have one cut.

chrome vessel
glacial seal
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Is that ansi? Froge is on my list

lucid owl
teal hill
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yooo

lucid owl
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You seen my wooting joost?

teal hill
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Yessir

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I was at clackycon

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remember

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Frog wooting

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literal frog

lucid owl
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Yeah I put KAT keycap set on it because apparantly I am one of the few with north facing interference

teal hill
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Ahhh nice

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look at the new set👀

lucid owl
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Sick man, I like the sublegends

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Are those cyrillic?

teal hill
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Hangul

lucid owl
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ahhh

teal hill
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Tis GMK Hallyu

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85eur incl ship EvilRondo

lucid owl
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Oh wow thats a good price

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Had a local deal today for GMK Lux, paid like 110

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Finished my Yellow on Black Bubble 75

teal hill
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super nuce

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nice

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My mode is still at wally’s

lucid owl
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Patina takes a while huh

teal hill
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he’ll finish it in 2 weeks hopefully

normal schooner
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Do you have something on your spacebar

teal hill
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a watermark

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yes

normal schooner
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no I mean its pressed in

lucid owl
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The black on Lux is so much deeper and unfiform than my ePBT set it fits the vibe alot better

teal hill
lucid owl
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reverse spacebar is a vibe but I don't like the way it looks

teal hill
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me neither

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but its comfy