🔧│keyboard_modding

[errant ledge]

They’re the SteelSeries keycaps I had on an Apex Pro

Feels illegal to do but it satisfies my RGB craving

[night folio]

I know what you mean but it looks great

[shell geode]

Looks dope! What paint did you use? Did you coat it or just the one coating?

[errant ledge]

Just some random matte white spray paint. I gave it three good coats of paint. For my first time modding a keyboard I think I did alright.

[cerulean yacht]

Hey how do I change the accusation points of the lekker switches if I put them on another keyboard?

[bronze grove]

You'd have to ask whoever makes that hall effect based keyboard about that.

The switch is a magnet on a stem. It isn't magic. The keyboard needs to support Hall Effect switches, otherwise you've got an expensive block of plastic and metal.

[cerulean yacht]

Ok I’ll check just now

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

Also "accusation"

[cerulean yacht]

Auto correct

Also I have another question

Is wooting planning on making a 75% keyboard

[bronze grove]

#💬│general message
TBD

[cerulean yacht]

Ok

[queen kernel]

Change case and keycap and matching the same color of stab with the switches, still using the same cable ,

anyone have the idea any custom coil cable that we could use ?

[bronze grove]

All? Any? It's just a question of potentially needing to turn down the LED brightness a tad if you have Tachyon enabled.

[delicate tartan]

@shell geode ask me to share this in here

[shell geode]

@delicate tartan followed my mod video, and I was saying that it sounds so marbley, it's so good!! 😮

[delicate tartan]

took me hours to put that tape on the switch 😂

btw this is my 1st mod lmao

[delicate tartan]

@tall hollow bro finished it today

[tall hollow]

Nice! What mods?

[delicate tartan]

I used Tofu60, stock foam, burger mount, tempest mod, lube, and tape mod on the switch and KBDfans keycaps.

[tall hollow]

Nice!

[delicate tartan]

I'm happy with the result of my 1st mod, thanks @tall hollow and @shell geode for the help!

[tall hollow]

Np!

[tall hollow]

Sounds like you put tape on the bottom housing as well?

[delicate tartan]

I didn't put a tape on the bottom housing since it might affect the performance of the switch. I just lube the bottom housing.

[tall hollow]

Ah, I see

[vale beacon]

Anyone suggest a suitable coiled usb cable for the Two HE?

[bronze grove]

Any, all.

They all come with the main caveat of being longer than what we recommend.

If you wish to enable tachyon mode, you may have to reduce the LED brightness to 70% or below to keep the voltage stable and avoid random inputs.

[vale beacon]

OK sweet. Thanks for the quick answer!

[hybrid widget]

Any wrist rest as long as you’re not looking for “aesthetic”

[ember gorge]

Does anyone know what the sound difference is like on a wooden case

[deep gust]

Sorry I am confused, this is only if you have a custom cable or for all cables including the one that came with the keyboard

[bronze grove]

All cables that are longer.

Than stock*

[deep gust]

Ok thank you

[bronze grove]

Or really cheaply made third party ones I suppose.

[thick warren]

hi pookies

[timid pagoda]

Hi guys, are there any sites that have a quality aluminum case in stock for the 60he? The Tofu60 is discontinued and when I contacted them they said they will not be restocking it. All the ones from the list of supported cases are out of stock too unless I missed something.

[bronze grove]

The list is not for ALL possible sellers of each one.

It's to show AN seller. Google might help you find other sellers for that specific case.

[timid pagoda]

Yea I googled a few of them and they were out of stock on every website I could find. I've searched quite a bit but I'll look some more. I was hoping someone may have found something that I just missed.

I found one with a review saying they used it on their 60HE, but they said the feet on the case was scratching their desk so I passed on it.

[shell geode]

Oh yeah! Can you let me know how we can proceed forward with adding the Baka60 to the list? I can provide info and confirmed fit pictures if needed 👍

[shell geode]

There's one that's not on the list, there's the Baka60

[timid pagoda]

Ahh I saw that one but wasn't sure if it was compatible.

[autumn fable]

idk if anyone’s mentioned the shark60, honestly it’s optically not my favourite (it’s anodized aluminum) but it has rubber feet

[timid pagoda]

LMAO nice name

[autumn fable]

i guess somebody didn’t like it lol

[timid pagoda]

🤣

[gray shoal]

Heard on YouTube there is an issue with tachyon mode and coil cables? So what is suggested length of cable so I can ditch this yellow stitched one?

Inb4 Ducky is my savior

[bronze grove]

Non coiled.

Any longer than 6ft and you may have to turn down LED brightness to have tachyon on.

[gray shoal]

🫡

Thank you sir

[ember gorge]

Have you used the baka60? I like the look (and price lmao) but I'm wondering about the ergonomics like the key height

[bronze grove]

I'll need some photos of the case by itself, as well as the 60HE put into it and working (a link to the seller and/or manufacturer wouldn't hurt either)

A PM is fine.

[shadow phoenix]

buy fast only 1 color left

[shell geode]

Yup! I used it for about 2 weeks before my PSD60 came in. I don't know the exact height in mm, but I would say it's within range of normal to taller key height from the front. The angle seems to be around 6° or so. Here's a pic of them next to each other, Baka60 is black, PSD60 is silver

[shell geode]

Sure thing! I'll message you later today! 👍 (I'm PST)

[bronze grove]

No rush. It's 9PM here.

[hot kayak]

You dont have a deskmat?

Im psure i might have one of the best sounding wootings rn im just waiting for my tx stabs and jtk keycaps to come in

[ember gorge]

Can I get the name of those keycaps? I have been seeing them all over the place but never a name

[delicate tartan]

kbdfans cement

[shell geode]

Haha prove it when you finish your build! 👌

[hot kayak]

oh i will, took some vids showing some of the process modding and as the keyboard is right now it feels and sounds so good

[tall hollow]

then again, sound is subjective

[hot kayak]

sound is very subjective but im pretty confident in the way my keyboard sounds I got rid of a lot of the hollowness and weird crunching/ticking the switch produces when it comes back up

[shell geode]

The upstroke is what I feel is the biggest challenge, so any mods to alter that is something I always want to explore

[shell geode]

Very true, different tastes for different people

[hot kayak]

id say lubing the contact points for the spring is pretyy big but only do it lightly so you dont get a mushy sound

and filming is pretty important

i also used anb actuation machine for my switches but that's not the biggest factor for that weird upstroke sound

[shell geode]

Filming affects the upstroke of the spring and stem?

[tall hollow]

mhm

[hot kayak]

not necessarily for the spring and stem

but it stops the swith housing from producing unnecessary sounds

the contact points lubing is the biggest factor tho imo

[hybrid light]

https://youtu.be/3fqQYzSRZCM

[fierce kiln]

Finally my custom wooting! Big thanks to @cinder cloud for answering some of my questions!
Fjell Case
O-ring Burger mount
3 layer tape mod
GMK Bento Revival Keycaps

[cinder cloud]

Let me me know what you think of that tape mod. It’s one thing I’m considering doing still.

Love those keycaps!

[tulip pumice]

I need to get a glorious coil cable, but other than that, it’s all done!

Poseidon def case
Tape mod
DSA magic girl keycaps.

So lovely

That many huh? I just like that they matched my setup. And I'm coming from the astrolokeys. So it made sense

[hot kayak]

are those gmk

which set is that

oh wait nvm not gmk

[keen raft]

It’s a DROP skylight series double shot pbt. I found them on Amazon. Custom spacebar and escape key from Etsy. With a tofu 60 case, frog tape mod and burger mount on the screws. Kept the foam pad in there and lubed the switches, sounds amazing.

[inland helm]

anyone know of any good klippe t alternatives?

The base price of the case is fine for me, but the 40 for shipping is a bit much
I would go for a tofu 60 but I can't find any in stock

[ebon quiver]

how do those low profile keycaps feel on a full sized switch? was thinking about doing the same

[mental hemlock]

i would try to find a deal on reddit

or ebay

because it looks like im gonna suck up the shipping cost

it'll be worth it tho

[lunar echo]

so comfortable. because I love the shape of keycaps like g913

[mental hemlock]

is that xda

[lunar echo]

https://www.amazon.com/Low-Profile-Keycaps-117-Keys/dp/B0B49FLN6K?th=1

[mental hemlock]

who hurt you

[lunar echo]

probably yes but idk profiles

[river reef]

Its funny cos low profile keycaps sounds a lot more consistent for me

Am using pom keycaps now, trying to get use to blind type

[bold lantern]

I want some of them but they so expensive

[river reef]

The pom keycaps?

I got mine on taobao

A lot cheaper than aliexpress and amazon

[mental hemlock]

that looks disgusting

[river reef]

Ngl i dont really give a fuck about what you think lmao

[mental hemlock]

go fuck yourself

[river reef]

I will just leave this here to let mod see it

[mental hemlock]

Copying my board and shit

[river reef]

Im using fjell and htx

[mental hemlock]

awesome hows the fjell

[river reef]

Better than psd60re and baldr60

And tofu 60

Havent tried other case

[mental hemlock]

which one would you try nexr

[river reef]

Prob not gonna try any other case

Keyboard weights 2.2kg

Thats good enough for me

[mental hemlock]

yeah i get you

the most ill go is klippe

fjell seems oberkill

[river reef]

I got the fjell locally for 300nzd

[mental hemlock]

is that better

[river reef]

But i spend 120nzd for local anodiser to anodise it black

[mental hemlock]

damn bro

[river reef]

It was e white with slightly chipped paint

[mental hemlock]

420 just on the case though you know what i mean

[river reef]

300nzd is like what 185usd

Cost around 560nzd to buy one new

Still saved a lot

[mental hemlock]

ah i see my bad

good price now lol

[river reef]

I did type 3 anodise as well

Double the thickness of oxidation layer

More scratch resistant

[mental hemlock]

badass bro

if you had to choose, what would you pick. Tofu, PSD, or Baldr or Baka

[river reef]

I dont have Baka

But prob psd60

Tofu the usb port didnt line up

Baldr 60 is like impossible to get now

[mental hemlock]

well, what do you think about this. There's another Discord I'm in that said this about the Wooting. look at their site, it gives off that rancid cali startup vibe. as for the boards themselves the whole idea is using the analog switches + software to give more control over how keypresses work and then acting like it's gods gift to competitive gaming. The simple fact of the matter is that other boards exist with analog switches, though I agree the software implementation wasn't really there with those boards, mostly because thats not what the manufacturer was trying to do, and also feel free to take a look at the actual pro players out there. They're using whatever their sponsors board is with mx reds or equivalents. They're not really out there looking for the next great board. That's the actual pros. Now factor in the reality that 99% of people buying these boards are simply not good enough for the differences in keypress controls to come into play and you have a company essentially selling snake oil
[11:16 PM]
on a more philosophical level I take issue with them marketing it for functionality. for me the keyboard is something you touch. it has to feel good, sound good, that kind of thing. so the focus on performance seems misplaced to me

[river reef]

Thats a keyboard enthusiasts channel isnt it

[mental hemlock]

somewhat, its the SFFGurus discord

[river reef]

Whoever think rapid trigger dont make a dif in fps is stupid

[mental hemlock]

I see

[river reef]

That prob also think zowie ec2 is still fine

[mental hemlock]

still getting used to the blanks huh

how are they for you

[river reef]

I can type fine just the number row still getting used to

[mental hemlock]

you mean shit like #$%

[river reef]

And just number in general

Cos I dont really keep track where those are

Especially 5+

[mental hemlock]

haha yeah

if it helps the first two before backspace arent letters

[river reef]

Yea ik

[river reef]

Did the guy actually try enough big company software to say that

[mental hemlock]

i still gotta look down when i type my password to log in to my computer

[river reef]

Wootings software is so much better

[mental hemlock]

cant say

[river reef]

Than all the big companies

[river reef]

I have windows hello for that

[mental hemlock]

maybe theyre more of a typing instead of a gaming enthusiast

[river reef]

Got a brio just for windows hello

[mental hemlock]

badass lol

[river reef]

Then hes prob in no place to judge a gaming keyboard lmao

Imagine buying something not for its purpose

[mental hemlock]

idk i was just asking them what they think

a lot of them got a strong dislike for Optimum Tech lol

saying he cant build a PC, his audio and monitor takes are trash, etc lol

Basically they say he has good B roll, but thats prettty much it

[river reef]

That sounds so stupid lmao

Imagine hating a product base on its reviewer

[dark saddle]

Yer spacebar is backwards

[mental hemlock]

On purpose, better angle for gaming

[mental hemlock]

They seem like a bunch of haters , it’s sad

[shell geode]

Also sounds gatekeeping too, tbh

[marble quarry]

They aren't selling snake oil in my experience the biggest improvement you can get is the keyboard, mouse and monitor help but for players who can't land shots, they can always peek and lobe a lethal. Especially COD with everyone relying on controllers losing access to keyboards

[mental hemlock]

well his audio takes are straight terrible, and for keyboards he isnt really too informed about the hobby, half the boards he uses and tries are your typical trash tray mounts

Copy paste

[river reef]

None of them tried the keyboard I bet

[obtuse karma]

I play FFXIV (tab targeting MMO) and I had the best parse I have ever had on the first raid with my Wooting.

The performance is legit and even if the rapid trigger, tachyon mode, or lower actuation point aren’t really making the difference, just the feel of a more responsive board definitely makes it a better experience and that might translate into playing better. It’s the same reason people buy superlight mouses. It’s as much about the feel using it as it is the tech.

[bright nest]

how does my wooting sound? i know my spacebar is loud

[austere creek]

You see the reality is we dont claim the keyboard makes you better. We actually tell people it wont make you better but just raise the skill ceiling. Every bigger reviewer has said the same and thats our tech is no snake oil but actually makes it one of the best if not the best keyboard currently. Yes other boards with HE and Optical switches exist but they all usually dont take all too much advantage of the technology and if they do add new features like a DKS clone they usually dont update their keyboards but release new or updated keyboards you have to re-purchase. While becoming the market leader would be awesome as frick, you can imagine that well... the ones with money can usually do it better. The difference is we can actually innovate and push the market into a new direction and we did that twice now. Steelseries responded with their Omnipoints which are underutilized and the osu! keypad market also started to see the benefit.

On the side of esports pros using our keyboard... They do have sponsor boards and we did look into sponsoring teams but its massively expensive. Lucky for us the pros reach out to us and actually pay for the board themselves with us usually just trying to make their boards ship asap. So unlike other companies who pay tons of money to have their keyboards used, we get money from pros who want to use it. Its not just osu! and Fortnite pros either. basically across the FPS scene, some racing games and some rythm games.

[river reef]

Have you guys seen Drunk deer A75?

[austere creek]

Also we wont deny sunk cost bias/fallacy happening on either side

people who expected to get good with our board and people buying other expensive boards

of course they defend an expensive purchase cause otherwise theyd have wasted money on nothing. Although we do offer 30days return after receiving it. no questions asked

[bright nest]

a lot of Valorant players seem to like the wooting too and personally what appealed to me most on buying a wooting was the easy path to adding mods and the added benefits of the lekker switches

ive owned corsair, razer, hyperx, and steelseries keyboards and so far I have liked my wooting the most

ive never modded or built a keyboard but case swapping, tape mod, and burger mount was fairly easy

i love my wooting

:)

[austere creek]

glad to hear that.

[austere creek]

We are also aware of lack of sound quality and tactility for many. The fact is though that we target the average gamer and enthusiasts/pros. We simply cant hand lube all switches or tune the sound to the liking of everyone. With some planned products we shoed at WootUp like the Alu case, silicone case and 60HE module (just the PCB/Topplate, screw-in stabs) we try to cover more modding options. No keyboard will ever be perfect and the best out of the box. A really good out of the box experience for the average consumer is what we aimed for and succeeded.

[austere creek]

drunk what?

[river reef]

Drunkdeer A75 lol

A new hall effect keyboard

The name is meme af

https://www.drunkdeer.com/products/adjustable-keyboard-magnetic-switch-a75?variant=43660805341487

You guys should consider doing tkl or 75%

[bright nest]

this if off topic but my wooting fit into the baka60 case easily and if there is anything I would need to do to help with adding it to the case compatibility I can provide

[austere creek]

cant find it right now but we teased a new formfactor at WootUp

no exact size specified

[river reef]

Does it have a knob?

[austere creek]

we didnt reveal any features outside the existing wooting stuff yet

[river reef]

[bright nest]

was this the teaser?

[river reef]

I think i see a tkl

[austere creek]

yes. although someone from staff posted the original image from the slide

[austere creek]

you will get the answer calder gave all attendees: Whatever formfactor you think it is, thats the one.

as mentioned only the teaser nothing else revealed yet

[river reef]

Hmm

[normal schooner]

I think its a car

[austere creek]

wootcar?

powered by dinosaurs?

[normal schooner]

no thats too normal

its a nhhhgtuut-tuut

[opal latch]

are there any polycarb plate that works with the wooting?

[bronze grove]

There are NO plates that work off shelf. Gotta custom make with standoffs.

And flexible materials risk causing sensor issues.

They need to stay in place, very rigidly.

[opal latch]

Ok

Also @bronze grove sometime when I boot my pc some keys wouldn’t register until I unplug and replug? Any solutions?

[bronze grove]

Don't touch keys for a few seconds when powering on.

[opal latch]

I didn’t

[bronze grove]

Then I can't explain why that happens.

[opal latch]

I switch padded the pcb

Could that be why

[bronze grove]

I have no idea what that means to be fair. 🙂

[opal latch]

Ill show j

U

[austere creek]

prob pads below the switches on the pcb

like thin foam or smth

[opal latch]

@bronze grove

[bronze grove]

Oh yeah those can cause issues.

[opal latch]

Hm

[bronze grove]

The switches are basically able to wobble around, which causes the sensor signals to vary.

Though this shouldn't cause them to stop working, just actuate weirdly.

[opal latch]

But when I replug them it works again?

[austere creek]

sounds more like you press keys too early

[untold wigeon]

Hello, I wanted to ask you guys if you have an idea how to make the 60He as silent as possible. I'd go for lubing and O-rings but with the lekker switches i don't know which european standards would fit those to be honest nad if you have other ideas I'm always willing to read those. And I know this has been talked about but most often the links I looked at where either sold out or in the US , so this is more about the standards.

[austere creek]

the same oring any other cherry switch uses

[shell geode]

@bronze grove Just wanna let you know that I messaged you in regards to adding the Baka60 to the case compatibility list 👍

[tranquil barn]

KBDfans would be making a ton of money if they didn’t discontinue their Tofu60 v1.0

[tall hollow]

True lol

But they gotta focus on their new group buys

[bronze grove]

I think they would rather make MORE money by selling both a case AND pcb.

Which is what they're doing.

We're more than happy to pick up that slack with our case. 😄

[tranquil barn]

They’re still selling the V1.0 with the pcb?

[bronze grove]

No. They're selling the 2.0 with their new PCB.

That's where their entire focus is. Their OWN ecosystem 😄

[tall hollow]

How many units are they thinking about making for the first run?

[bronze grove]

KBD? You'd have to ask them.

[tall hollow]

No, the wooting alu case

[tranquil barn]

Oh but the 2.0 isn’t compatible anymore

[bronze grove]

It is... WITH THEIR NEW PCB

Good lord 😄

[tall hollow]

No, center usb port and its gasket mount.

[bronze grove]

Ah. "They" vs "You" confused me. WE haven't announced any details about this. We'll share more when we can 🙂

[tall hollow]

Ah. Alr

[tranquil barn]

Hope there is SEA distributors for the case

Since it could likely be used with any DZ60 pcb, maybe y’all could even run a GB for it

[bronze grove]

Us? No. We ship everything from the Netherlands.

[haughty delta]

The most silent you can get the swithces is with lubing, switch pads, o-rings, and the silicone or tape mod some here have done to their switchs. I personally would not recommend o-rings as they make the Rapid Trigger feature extremely inconsistent.

[tall hollow]

@somber scroll did the silicone one

I just did the tape mod on the top housing only.

It does dampen the return

[tranquil barn]

cries in SEA shipping

[tall hollow]

I didn’t do it to the bottom housing since it feels mushy when it bottoms out.

[acoustic lark]

Is it worth re-lubing the Wooting 60he when say replacing the keycaps? Also, would o-rings make any sense?

[bronze grove]

It's a LOT more work.

Keycaps pop right off. You need to disassemble the keyboard for switch pulling and relubing.

[acoustic lark]

Gotcha. Do you happen to know what happened to the Wooting shine-through keycaps? It’s listed on the site but you can’t purchase them

[bronze grove]

The what now? Link?

[bronze grove]

https://next.wooting.io/product/wooting-etched-backlit-abs-keycap-set-black

Uh? They're right here?

https://next.wooting.io/our-products?category=Keycaps
PBT as well.

[dense siren]

Using a fjell case what foam and tape should I use with the wooting60he

What tape should I use as well?

[solid stump]

@dense siren I ended up using the stock foam, but there's been a couple people recommending automotive foam, have heard good things. Haven't done tape mod so I'm curious as well

Someone recommended this:
https://a.co/d/a81ILo5

Also you should try burger mounting

[tall hollow]

Gummy O-ring mount as well

[sleek grove]

Which o ring should I use for this? And do you happen to know if it’s possible to do on the maze 64?

Also, are you supposed to screw the pcb into the standoffs if you use the gummy o ring or is it either or situation?

[bronze grove]

wat

You obviously need to screw the board together. Otherwise it'll fall apart.

https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?t=320
Badseed shows off burgermounting in this video iirc

[sleek grove]

I thought burger mounting is different from gummy o ring mounting. I though if you put the gummy o ring around the entire pcb it might be tight enough

I might be confused though. I’m decidedly a noob

[bronze grove]

Burgermounting.

[sleek grove]

Yeah. I know about burger mounting. You’re right that obviously you need to screw in the pcb to the standoff. I was wondering about gummy o ring mounting.

[bronze grove]

Is that where you put a massive "o-ring" rubber band around the side of the PCB between it and the case (in)sides?

[sleek grove]

Yeah

Exactly

[bronze grove]

I have no idea about that sort of mod. Maybe Tirade or one of the other modding experts knows 🙂

[sleek grove]

Oh okay. Cool

[somber scroll]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[sleek grove]

Awesome thank you. The Maze64 isn’t on their list. I might just try it anyway

[somber scroll]

@stray tiger would probably know if it works for sure with the Maze64

[stray tiger]

Gummy o-ring works great. I order the medium sized ones from graveshift in roughly 35-40a

[stray tiger]

One of the few I haven't tested but I've heard it works fine.

[sleek grove]

Awesome. I’ll give it a try. Should I screw in the pcb to the standoffs or does that defeat the purpose?

[stray tiger]

Defeats the purpose, you want to friction fit it. Kind of float it

[sleek grove]

Ah okay. That makes sense

Thank you!

[solid stump]

Barely, but yes

You have to really squash them down for the screws to make contact

[tall hollow]

“Gasket mount” -ish

[solid stump]

Right

I ended up having longer ones that came with my klippe t case, so I used those, but yes I'd order some longer ones.

[tall hollow]

Only downside I see with this is that you can’t really travel with it. Since it may fall out the case.

Also gotta be careful to not turn it upside down without supporting it.

[stray tiger]

Try and then tell me that. It's very solid friction fit. That's why medium instead of small is the choice.

[tall hollow]

I see

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/TotSEWmSxoQ

[tall hollow]

I’m assuming it’s easy to take out and clean if that’s the case, nothing to unscrew and whatnot.

Just pull the module out and clean it out.

[mental hemlock]

Pure sex

Love my blank keyboards

[mental hemlock]

Two things, first based AT2020, second, you can flip the second arm that the mic mounts to upside down to have cooler cable routing, lastly the AT2020 works best when you’re talking directly into the front or logo part, so you could try mounting it in front of you.

Loving the setup though, super cozy

[hot kayak]

This is used in the bakeneko65 for example

[hot kayak]

This should work with any 60% case roght? (Obviously ones that are compatible with wooting)

[clear parcel]

Anyone working on a new (bottom) housing for the two HE? I'll definitely have to improve the sound too. Any suggestion for successful mods? My first thought was just to fill the bottom case.

[hot kayak]

are you talking about the stock case?

[clear parcel]

Yes, as I haven't found an alternative case for the fullsize yet. At least the last time I was looking I didn't find any, only for the 60HE

[hot kayak]

oh welp i cant help you there

i have no idea what it looks like under

or inside i guess

[obtuse karma]

E-white Klippe-T looking nice, just awaiting a few more things to be delivered before is #1070668460905988106 worthy

[tall hollow]

I got one more thing as well,

[glacial seal]

You probably won’t. There’s no standard at all there. Which is why wooting isn’t even considering an alu case for it.

[wicked shell]

sadness

[dire locust]

As requested my scuffed sound test

[shell geode]

Yup, sounds like a lubed up 60he, good job!

[dire locust]

any advice to improve it? lol

or is this the best i can get lol.

[shell geode]

It depends on what your goal is

It sounds great

What do you want to do with it?

[dire locust]

since thocc is difficult, would creamy be possible.

[dire locust]

thanks!

[shell geode]

Would you consider this 'creamy' to you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvsNyOhYMkQ Yes the title says creamy, but also it has to sound creamy to you as well, and not just be suggested by the title

[dire locust]

yeah actually

[shell geode]

@dire locust To go creamy, I would say you need to also get clackier. Aluminum case, softening/muting the switch a bit, different types of foam, etc. I taped the top the of my housings to soften the impact of the stem if you're interested: https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1097648230176673872

[dire locust]

i guess the alphas sound a bit clacky to me.

bit rattley

[solid stump]

So I just had an idea, need someone who is a veteran keyboard modder to tell me if this idea is dumb - I have my keyboard burger mounted, but I was thinking of buying silicone standoff covers because the bottom burger keeps smooshing into the keyboard holes. So my question is this - could I just 3d print standoff covers out of TPU? The materials seem close enough....

Kbdfans wants 22$ to ship 2$ worth of silicone, which seems nuts to me

Also - may end up making a 3d printed usbc flush mount for klippe case

[gray shoal]

Alright so I was told by wooting employee yesterday that 6ft of cable is max for no effect on tachyon. Will it be an issue if I want a detachable connector?

[austere creek]

shouldnt pose any issues given its of acceptable quality

[gray shoal]

Also what size orings I need for burger mount? Klippe t case if that matters

Thanks Tony

Looking at a DIY cable but if we need quality should probably look for an already made one 😂😅

[solid stump]

People have recommended these, I have them as well but they're a little small and like to squirrel inside the pcb https://a.co/d/dBtrQst

[fading holly]

I'm using 5x2x1.5mm (so a size bigger than the ones above) and they work very well.

[gray shoal]

Squirrel?

Explain plz maybe language barrier here

[solid stump]

When screwing the keyboard back in, they sometimes don't squish, and instead they go up into the pcb

[gray shoal]

Oh thanks

So assuming a slight bigger size would prevent that

[solid stump]

Yeah

[gray shoal]

Thanks will look for that and test both just in case. New case came in today so didn’t buy anything else until that arrived.

[obtuse karma]

I got these as well. Just did the burger mount this morning and had no issues

[solid stump]

I'm wondering if I should use the additional center standoff on this case or not...

[alpine spear]

I'm so sad the tofu60 2.0 doesn't fit with the 60he 😦

[obtuse karma]

Klippe T right? I didn't use the center standoffs for mine - just followed what Mekanisk themselves suggested in their video

[solid stump]

@obtuse karma did you use their provided screws or the stock ones?

[fading holly]

I use the center stand-off in my klippe T. Again, worked like a charm.

[tall hollow]

wait, my keeb sounds exactly like that lmao

keeb-ception?

[obtuse karma]

@solid stump I used these that I got off Amazon. Slightly longer so it made the burger mount a breeze https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TKWC1NB?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[solid stump]

Have you guys done the tape mod? Is it worth?

[tall hollow]

temptest or switch?

[solid stump]

I assumed the tape mod was putting painters tape under the kb...

[tall hollow]

ah, temptest mod

yeah I did

[solid stump]

thoughts?

[tall hollow]

it does what its supposed to do, make it sound more poppy.

[solid stump]

I've got everything apart right now, prepping to put on these 3d printed tpu mounts, and I'm wondering if I should do anything else while the thing is open. Need to lube at some point as well, but seems like a daunting task

[tall hollow]

what is this TPU mount for?

also out of curiosity: what 3d printer you use?

[tall hollow]

ah, so little O rings

[solid stump]

Tpu standoff covers for klippe t

[tall hollow]

that could work

[solid stump]

"big" orings

[tall hollow]

lol

[tall hollow]

nice

[shell geode]

No cap 😆

[tall hollow]

I mean, you heard my sound test right?

also I need to rec a new one since I made ANOTHER change

[shell geode]

Yeah do it! Needs refresh my memory

[gray shoal]

Things like this make me wish I had a printer, but also idk what else I’d use it for. Work construction so nothing I need to 3d print

[tall hollow]

@solid stump

[gray shoal]

Also mark. No foam inside?

[solid stump]

@tall hollow I have a print farm of Bambu X1CC's (5 so far with 6 more on order) and a Prusa Mk3S+ with a ton of mods

and @gray shoal I reused the wooting foam

[tall hollow]

I have an X1 carbon as well!

[tall hollow]

bro I trim the video and it takes like 5 minutes to export

[gray shoal]

💀

So many

[tall hollow]

with the AMS

i ordered a 2nd too

[gray shoal]

What’s the average market price for a good sized entry printer?

[tall hollow]

as far as normal printers go I have a voron printer that I modded the heck out of

[gray shoal]

Doesn’t need to be budget

[tall hollow]

OG ender 3

[tall hollow]

oh, about 300-500 usd

[tall hollow]

speed demons amirite.

[solid stump]

They are fantastic printersz

[gray shoal]

Both helps much rather get community suggestions then YouTube paid reviews

[tall hollow]

yes, although my voron is faster lmao

albeit at mediocre quality

[shell geode]

Can you convert to mp4? The mov file is quite large

[tall hollow]

alr

[shell geode]

And converting to mp4 allows us to play it in Discord and not have to download it to view it if people are skeptical

[tall hollow]

discord do be like that

also iphone moment

[shell geode]

But I did download the file to view, quality is great btw

[tall hollow]

ah, thx!

[shell geode]

After viewing it, to me it still sounds Wooting, but that's just me 🤷 But it still sounds hella smooth, that spacebar on your desk gives a nice thunk

[tall hollow]

my personal suggestion rn is the bambu lab p1p

[shell geode]

But @delicate tartan's video has a higher and really nice pitch that sounds marbley and closer to clack/cream that I can't replicate myself

[shell geode]

I actually think you did really good there on the stabs, I didn't hear the rattle but the spring ping is very noticeable

[gray shoal]

Ohhhh nice I’ll treat myself later this year

[tall hollow]

maybe once I get my aluminum case the sound can change

[shell geode]

Definitely! Which case are you getting?

[tall hollow]

FB60

[shell geode]

Oo nice, you ordered before it went out of stock?

[tall hollow]

yeah

might be getting the wooting alu case whent hat comes out

[shell geode]

Same, considering the Wooting after some more info upon release and just get it right away

[solid stump]

Sorry was in the middle of researching whether or not to use these middle mounts as well as which screws to use

[shell geode]

Running the stock foam on the FB60 or trying something else?

[solid stump]

Definitely recommend bambu x1cc for beginners if you have the budget, its a monster and super ez to use

[tall hollow]

anyways, as per your request.

[tall hollow]

oh yes, only thing I would change though its the start sequence, most of the calibrations and whatnot only really have to happen every 3-5 prints, not every print.

just the bed leveling sequence and purge is good enough for every print

[solid stump]

You actually can disable that when sending the print job

[tall hollow]

all the fancy micro lidar and flow calibration only really has to happen every 3-5 prints

[tall hollow]

I made custom G-code to make it a little faster

so i dont have to sit there and wait 19 minutes until it actually prints the first layer. (because I dont quite trust its first layer scan to point out subtle things that can lead to disasters)

[tall hollow]

also another thing, clean those printers frequently

[solid stump]

yep

[tall hollow]

especially the carbon fiber rods

[tall hollow]

also im curious as how you handle the "poop chute" on the back of the printers

since you're running a print farm.

[solid stump]

I just clean them all out on a schedule

[tall hollow]

ah, I just have it slide right into a garbage can

using a slide

[tall hollow]

yk voron printers right?

[solid stump]

Oh yeah of course

Vorons are awesome, but I print such volume that it just isn't feasible for me

[glacial seal]

Vorons are m1 tanks. Great and powerful but you really should service em every 100 miles.

[tall hollow]

lol, mine run on brushless AC motors that are driven like servos

the bed is the only thing that still tuns on normal servos.

[stray tiger]

Some cases work better than others. Cases with little ledges on the sides like the Klippe cases work best but you can make a lot of them work.

[shadow phoenix]

Damn I really am chasing this marbley sound now

[shadow phoenix]

This sounds so good holy

[tall hollow]

lmao

[wicked hill]

Ohhhhhh ok Ty Ty Just got it like two days ago lmao

[wicked hill]

we both using at2020 blank keycaps and iems w mans

[mental hemlock]

Literally perfect setup

W mans

[wicked hill]

I got the shiny sora pad from skypad coming in so I’ll probably swap to my white case too 🤝

[mental hemlock]

I think it looks perfect as is, but I’m excited to see what you can do

[wicked hill]

Agreed I love it how it is, but I am curious to see how it’ll look w white periph

[mental hemlock]

I believe in u

[gray shoal]

Good brands of braided cables?

Wanted to do Zaps but don’t have a soldering kit or the skill for it

[delicate tartan]

might be because of the case, keycaps and how I lube the switch

[shell geode]

I definitely think its precisely what you listed!

[static tendon]

Nice, I'm rocking the same mic and mic arm as well

[mental hemlock]

Damn wtf that’s like the 4th person lol

[static tendon]

Yeah it seems like a popular mic, I got mine on black friday, got a killer deal

[earnest tartan]

bro how do i make the space bar sound better 😭😭😭

[austere creek]

you are asking a subjective question without specifying your rule for "sound better"

[earnest tartan]

less ping just dampening it in general

[shell geode]

re-lube switch, re-lube stabilizer, line the inside with painters tape or a molding putty, I'd start there

[austere creek]

wouldnt molding putty be having mold on it?

[lucid hollow]

Any good white cases that work on the wooting? Trying to find a white one since my set up is primarily white /:

[earnest tartan]

i just swapped the case to the 5 degree with tape mod foam and o rings on the case screws and it sounds better but space bar sounds the same. i want to lube everything soon but will that be enough to dampen the space bar

[shell geode]

Yeah, one of those or a combination of them could dampen it enough for you

[earnest tartan]

i’ve never lubed switches b4 i’m nervous 😵‍💫

[shell geode]

It's easy! Wooting has a guide on their YT channel

[normal schooner]

just take your time

[earnest tartan]

thank u

[hot kayak]

Personally i bought a new set of tx stabs

Because theres a rattle the wire gives off in the corner that i cant fix

[cursive rover]

Poseidon aliexpress case aint that bad.

[boreal latch]

It feels like the keys on the top left side are much louder than the ones on the right side. What did y'all do to fix this?

[dark saddle]

Nothing you can do but buy a better keeb :p

[ember gorge]

is that the psd60?

[cursive rover]

Yes

[ember gorge]

whats your thoughts on it i was just on their website

was literally about to ask if anyone had built in it lmao

[tranquil barn]

Got a side view?

[hollow plover]

Hey! What are these keycaps? Build looks great

[cursive rover]

Ill take a pic in a bit, ye

[cursive rover]

I just built it, its kind pretty good compared to a tofu65 case i have. The rubber feet are a little too tall so i might replace those. The case itself feels really good tho. Got lucky with the white matching my keycaps too.

[marble shuttle]

white tofu60 or black tofu60 what do you prefer

[bronze grove]

Whichever you can find.

(if any)

[ember gorge]

Have you put the wooting in the tofu?

[cursive rover]

Sadly i cant use the tofu65 case. Only the tofu60 is compatible.

[ember gorge]

Oh yeah i completely ignored that you said 65 lmao

Mb

[cursive rover]

Im cheesed i went with a tofu65 a while back lmao

[ember gorge]

I'm debating getting the psd60 in black before it's out of stock but my bank account is not happy with me rn

[cursive rover]

Ill take more pics, its a little thicker than the tofu for sure tho

[cursive rover]

in general, the sides, the rubber feet, all of it

i have some that i used on a skypad a while back that are super thin as well

[tranquil barn]

Nice! Cherry profile is not lifted above the case

[cursive rover]

thats what i was looking for as well, it matches my fully black tofu65

decided to go with a full white this time and i think i like it more

I got them from some local furniture store

[tranquil barn]

did u happen to try if it sounds better in a PSD60 or Tofu60

[cursive rover]

I don't have a tofu60 sadly, but it sounds similar to my tofu65 with gateron black inks

[tribal urchin]

has anyone tried putting their 60he into ai03 polaris case? it seems compatible since there's a usb cutout to the left.
and yes, I do realize it's not tray mount and you'd have to print or cut your own plate to use it with gasket mount, but what I'm wondering is whether it can fit and work at all

[bronze grove]

You have your answer. I can count the number of people who have even considered doing custom plates in the community on a hand, let alone a specific case like that.

[tribal urchin]

few people put their 60hes into frog mini so I was wondering if anyone tried doing the same with polaris

[cursive rover]

dang wooting waittime was rough for me ngl

[midnight meadow]

some people are waiting weeks some are waiting months, i think it’s worth the wait imo

[cursive rover]

ye i waited 2-3 months for mine

[vale beacon]

I only have to wait untill late June 🥲

[dark saddle]

Not long guys

And remember: it's just a keyboard

The more you hype it up like this before it arrives the more you'll be disappointed when you really, truly understand it's just a keyboard. 😛

[vale beacon]

This would be true unless half your keys on your current keyboard dont work like mine. That makes it a working keyboard and they're the best kind 🤣

[dark saddle]

I mean you could get any excellent keyboard in mere days

[ember gorge]

Anyone know of any upcoming alu 60he cases coming out soon?

[untold wigeon]

Anyone know where to get keycaps that have ONLY japanese letters?

Most of them contain the normal letters

[bronze grove]

Seems kind of unlikely outside of Japan - And their layout is a little unique.

[ember gorge]

The only one rn that isn't out of stock that I'm realistically looking to purchase would be the psd60 but that seems a little tall

[vale beacon]

Getting one in mere months, in good 👍

[tranquil barn]

There are keycap sets with the Hiragana kitting

[raven cave]

Drop has GMK WoB Katakana: https://drop.com/buy/drop-gmk-white-on-black-katakana-custom-keycap-set, if those are the kind of Japanese letters you're looking for.

[untold wigeon]

145 usd for keycaps lmao

I rather buy myself another wooting

[raven cave]

Sure, GMK is expensive. It's very sensible to not even consider them. I used to be sensible like that too, but then I fell into the rabbit hole… 😄

[untold wigeon]

I rather find someone to lazer it

[shell geode]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1097648230176673872

[pulsar ridge]

Saw some on Aliexpress, but I don't remember what they were called

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803910015523.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US

[ember gorge]

That's interesting, I haven't seen the tape mod before but I think I'll definitely add it to the list

[shell geode]

I noticed immediately that I wasn't a fan of the spring ping, so I figured I tried a quick solution. It's been almost a month, and its still holding up well! Remember to lube the tape after applying

[ember gorge]

That's if I even remember to do it in 2 months lmao

[mental hemlock]

So what’s the best way to lube these switches, time is not a bother

[bronze grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

[mental hemlock]

Actually watching the video now lol

So you guys consider this the best way? I mean in terms of sound

[austere creek]

theres no objectively best way for a subjective result

[hot kayak]

These are clones of the gmk wob katakana

[pastel pewter]

paying $120+ for keycaps is dumb imo

if the legends don’t bother u, clones are a great option

for $20-30

[hot kayak]

I mean yea its dumb until you really get into the hobby and realize it makes a difference in the sound/feel

[pastel pewter]

and they are readily available.. unlike gmk group buys

[floral vale]

nah, if they are g20's

[pastel pewter]

i just don’t think plastic should cost that much imo

[placid blaze]

^facts, but I feel like this one is kind of a controversial opinion sometimes when it shouldn't be

[hot kayak]

I mean it shouldn’t but when the quality is there you kind of have to suffice

People will buy it cause they’re looking for something specific

But if it doesn’t bother you just get clones

[pastel pewter]

for sure. definitely some very specific keycaps that there aren’t clones for

i think for the vast majority, clones will be an amazing value

[hot kayak]

Yea i mean i used to only get clones

But once i started chasing a specific sound/feel i cant buy clones anymore

Unless im building for someone getting into the hobby

[floral vale]

the world doesnt care if you think it shouldnt cost that much

ppl buying it or not is the only thing that matters

[mental hemlock]

blank keycaps or bust

lol

[edgy nexus]

It really does

Just installed my GMK and comparing them to clones the sound is just insane

Plus lubed switched and stabs

[hot kayak]

Yea it gets rid of a lot of hollowness

[edgy nexus]

Yep

Spacebar makes me cream everytime

[hot kayak]

Though at the same time everything makes a difference in sound/feel but keycaps are so expensive cause its the one thing on ur keyboard ur touching all the time

[edgy nexus]

True

Theyre the ones that get the most used out

Worn out*

[hot kayak]

Yea also switches can get pretty expensive depending what you buy

[edgy nexus]

Cheap ones wear out pretty fast compared to expensive ones

[edgy nexus]

True

I just built my custom and went with gateron yellow pros

But Im thinking about maybe switching when Im tired of the sound

[mental hemlock]

can someone send a picture of key cap legends actually being worn out

[edgy nexus]

I have a creamy sound profile rn and its amazing

[hot kayak]

Theres so many switches in the market now

[edgy nexus]

Youve never seen keycaps that had lost the legends?

[mental hemlock]

nope

[hot kayak]

That it’s hard to not find what you’re looking for

[edgy nexus]

Every keyboard in school has them lol

[mental hemlock]

actual keyboarsa

send a pic

[edgy nexus]

Yea but im lowkey new to this so don’t know what to buy yet

[hot kayak]

You should go to a keyboard meet

They have a shit ton of keyboards laid out for you to try

[edgy nexus]

We dont have those up here in quebec

[mental hemlock]

is the wooting worth it bros

[edgy nexus]

Yes

[hot kayak]

And you can find what kind of sound/feel you want to build

[edgy nexus]

For gaming its the best keyboard ever

[hot kayak]

Bruh im sure they have some group in qbc

Qc

[mental hemlock]

thats simply not true

[edgy nexus]

It really is

[hot kayak]

How is that not true

[mental hemlock]

subjectibr

[hot kayak]

It literally is the best gaming keyboard, for keyboards in general not so true

[edgy nexus]

My movement has been so much better on every game since Ive been using the wooting for gaming

[hot kayak]

Idk how it’s subjective if it gives off the fastest response time

[delicate tartan]

with white you can play a lot of color combination with you key caps,

[hot kayak]

With upstroke

[edgy nexus]

Customizable too

[mental hemlock]

i feel like that needs to be a bit more looked into

[edgy nexus]

I dont

[hot kayak]

Well i mean as it stands rn

Theres nothing like it on the market

Every keyboard uses switches that activate at a certain actuation point and then deactivates at that point as well

Wooting is based on where the switch is at

[edgy nexus]

And its goated too

[mental hemlock]

i think it needs a bit more time

when its more readily abailable to all

[edgy nexus]

Its always back order since its the best

[hot kayak]

Ngl it tooke me like 1 week to get mine idk i got lucky lol

[edgy nexus]

Is there any other keyboard that sells as much as this one

And to a specific clientele

[hot kayak]

Or 2 weeks i guess

[edgy nexus]

Same

Ordered end of march and got it mid april

[hot kayak]

Ye same lmao

[edgy nexus]

But paid for airfreight

[delicate tartan]

in terms of gaming big yes

[hot kayak]

In terms of keyboards the keycult is the most solidified end game opinion in the community

But everything is subjective

[mental hemlock]

i feel if you want two keyboards this is the best option, id like to build a separate tactile keeb

[hot kayak]

Well then you’re not looking for a gaming specific keyboard then

Cause thats just what the wooting is

It’s not a keyboard thats gonna sound/feel amazing

[mental hemlock]

im looking for both son

[hot kayak]

Oh i misread your comment

[zinc scroll]

What size is the spacebar on the 60HE? lmao

[hot kayak]

Ye then get the wooting

And a different keeb

I currently use a bakeneko65 for regular use and switch to wooting when i game

Im pretty sure its 6.25

U

[zinc scroll]

ty

[bronze grove]

6.25u

[zinc scroll]

Thank you

[mental hemlock]

whats the larget keyboard you would use, i think i cap out at 75

[hot kayak]

I want a tkl

Tkl most optimal but i honestly would want a full size one day

I used to use the numpad a lot but i could buy a separate module for that if i want

[mental hemlock]

that would be dope

[hot kayak]

The only reason i dont buy bigger is because it costs so much

But i do buy expensive other stuff so technically not justifiable but for sound/feeling it makes sense

[mental hemlock]

like what else

@hot kayak

[hot kayak]

Wdym what else

[mental hemlock]

in your setup you bought'

[hot kayak]

Oh i mean like just buying all the accessories like keycaps, switches, things for modding

[mental hemlock]

what mic mouse monitor you got etc

[hot kayak]

I dont even have a nice setup i just use a g pro wireless and a regular 144 asus with my computer being like 5 years old using the same exact setup a 1080ti with i58600

[mental hemlock]

you might be the only guy that his 1080 ti is bottlenecking his cpu

since i had mine with a ryzen 5 3600

[hot kayak]

Lol

Naw idk i think my cpu sucks

I want to switch to amd

Since they got better

[mental hemlock]

5800X3D and 4070

thank me later

[hot kayak]

Arent 40 series like really taxed up rn

Well

[mental hemlock]

4070 isnt bad

[hot kayak]

Im not gonna buy a comp any time soon anyways so it dont matter

Kinda wish i did cause prices for stuff pretty cheap

[mental hemlock]

computer right

[hot kayak]

Yea

[mental hemlock]

i was under the assumption you were going to build it yourself

[hot kayak]

I am

Just dont feel a need to upgrade atm

And if i do imma get like an entirely new build besides like keeping my storage

And maybe psu

[mental hemlock]

bet bro

would you consider building in ITX

[hot kayak]

Yea i have a fulltower rosewill pc that i just hate cause it discourages me from cleaning it

Rosewill thor v2

[mental hemlock]

neber heard of her

[hot kayak]

Its oldd

Like it came out in 2014 i think

Just used it cause it was collecting dust

[mental hemlock]

ITX time

any cases you know about

[hot kayak]

Nope just want something small so i can just have it sitting on my desk

Doesn’t matter what it is

Maybe clear too

[mental hemlock]

formd t1, and dan c4 sfx

[shell geode]

I'm running a 5800X and 3070, so we're kinda twins? 😆

[mental hemlock]

haha almost there

still solid specs

[shell geode]

Had it since 2021 and I've been more than satisfied

[stray tiger]

You might get better discussion for this topic in the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/220093300672167936

[edgy nexus]

i9 10850k and 3080

[mental hemlock]

hows it going tirade

[stray tiger]

Busy as always, heading back from a trip and catching up on modding chat

[mental hemlock]

where did you og

[shell geode]

Too powerful for me 😆

[static tendon]

Does anyone know where I can potentially purchase a KBD 5° case?

Anywhere they may have it in stock? Assuming it is compatible with the wooting 60HE

[normal schooner]

look for used on ebay/whatever your country uses. its ametal case. one whipe and will be as new

[stray tiger]

It is compatible with the Wooting. It's sold out and discontinued though. If you are in the US, Ebay may be your best bet.

[modern bone]

cooler master nr200p

small enough, very good entry into the ITX world

isn't as expensive as the formd t1, i think it's similar-ish in price to the dan a4

[hot kayak]

I think this is what id get thank you

[hot kayak]

Im so lucky that i bought it when it was on clearnace a couple years ago

[modern bone]

np man! just make sure your components will fit like the mobo!

and the psu

[hot kayak]

Ill prolly just look up stuff and do research to make sure everything works

[modern bone]

def do that, keep in mind the swap might require a mobo change. ik cooler master sells an ATX PSU brace for the nr200 (SFX and SFX-L braces come with case), they also have the 3d printing file for it if you have access to a printer

[tender sonnet]

Current in NR200P. I’d recommend the Max version if you want good thermals though.

[stray tiger]

All, please use https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/220093300672167936 for PC discussion not related to keyboard modding.

[warm wing]

what foam should i get for my keyboard

[edgy nexus]

i recommend sorbothane

it dampens the sound quite a bit

but it is preference afterwards too

[velvet sable]

Where can I buy cool key caps

[edgy nexus]

kbdfans, drop,

kinetic labs

[somber scroll]

Does it dampen high or low more compared to stock foam? Or does it just dampen a lot overall?

[edgy nexus]

oversall

[stray tiger]

Here is a little education for you if you would rather understand the differences between foam types/thickness (feel free to ignore if you would rather just have someone in discord make up an answer for you) https://youtu.be/_N8k0u75eLQ (start around the 6:40 mark if you're lazy)

[somber scroll]

Oh sweet

I’m very curious how they all work. I also fantasize about having tiny little triangles of foam like in wave isolation room things but I doubt that would do anything at that scale lol

[stray tiger]

The biggest thing to take away is that thinner foam takes away higher frequency sounds (clack) and thicker foam takes away lower frequency sounds (thock)

[mental hemlock]

wait, what

theres no way

[edgy nexus]

prolly why my cudstom ended up being more clacky than thocky lol

oh well I love the sound so im not going to change it yet

[mental hemlock]

I'm Da Cook

[edgy nexus]

???

[mental hemlock]

are you the cook or are you the one who knocks

[edgy nexus]

i am the cook who knocks

[hot kayak]

Literally the best keyboard modder that has science behind everything, his budget boards siund better than a lot of youtubers endgame

[tall hollow]

This

[tall hollow]

I like keybored

[placid goblet]

Guys wanted to ask i finally got my wooting 60he and i happened to have a angry miao glacier keycaps, do i need to turn around the switch southfacing ? Thanks alot

[bronze grove]

Probably not.

Put them on. Any scraping? Then maybe.

It is much less work to remove keycaps than to pull all of the switches.

[tall hollow]

Usually that shouldn’t be an issue, but if it is then it doesn’t hurt to flip them around.

[placid goblet]

How to tell whether theres an issue or not

Sory its thr first time for me

Lol

[bronze grove]

I just told you 😄

Do they scrap against each other when you push them down? If not you're good.

[placid goblet]

Sory didnt see the message

Well then wish me luck :0

[tall hollow]

Also hello duck.

[bronze grove]

[tall hollow]

Nice!

[tall hollow]

How is thy Ander doing?

[thick mural]

wouldn't recommend it as it sits pretty far left in the case, more so than the tofu

[hot kayak]

Well i recommend it cause i use it lmao

[thick mural]

so do i, still a terrible fit

[vale beacon]

So many keycaps out there..
What brand or store (UK/EU) do people consider as good quality for a full-size keybaord, but cheaper than the £100 prices?

[bronze grove]

Hard to say without a lot more information.

What language and layout? ISO UK?
Specific colours?
LED shrinethrough letters?

[vale beacon]

Yea, it would be ISO UK layout.
Shinethrough would be nice but not totally necessary.
Somewhere to just start looking would be good

They will be for the Two HE

[thick mural]

i use pimpmykeyboard for uk iso, theyre a bit pricey but that's only because I needed SA profile specifically

[vale beacon]

Thanks, thats a good starting point! I "think" I prefer the feel of SA profile, my current board has similar concave design and got use to it

[thick mural]

yeah i like the flat profiles so i had to scour the web for pbt sa uk iso

[vale beacon]

Are SA flat?

[thick mural]

not the actual keycaps no

[vale beacon]

Oh sweet

[thick mural]

but the whole plane is on the same level

[vale beacon]

Yea, that sounds good 👌

[thick mural]

dsa are similar but they're slightly longer, theyre the two i use but i prefer the sound profile of SA

I can try link the ones i got if you'd like

[vale beacon]

If you can please, thanks

Going to have a look on the site you recommended 👍

[thick mural]

https://pimpmykeyboard.com/sp-dsa-high-contrast-granite-keyset-sublimated/

Cant find the SA caps, looks like they've been removed

[gray shoal]

Anyone mess with this stuff vs lubing stabs? https://thockpop.com/product/ptfe-fiberglass-tape/

[unreal bear]

Haven't messed with this particular tape but usually you'd do both the bandaid mod as well as use lube. My only gripe about the band aid mod is that it doesn't stick that well onto the stem surface. I personally did a medical tape mod where I wrapped it around the wire itself and then dipped it in di electric grease. It's worked well for me so far. If this tape you posted does a better job at sticking to the stem surface, I guess it'd be worth a try.

[gray shoal]

This is ptfe so no friction not fabric like bandaid

[placid goblet]

@bronze grove thanks its crazy

Reccomend this keyboard for counter strike 2 god damn u guys are gods

[marble shuttle]

@placid goblet i got it too but still smashed by nooby crosshair placement bots 😄

[tall hollow]

Epic

[unkempt root]

any good wooting 60he modding cases thats not priced more than the wooting its seld?

[gray shoal]

Step 1 get CS 2 invite

Step 2 didn’t get invite

[hot kayak]

i heard the baka60 is pretty good for the price, I currently use kbdfans 5deg aluminum

[mental hemlock]

Bros got the baller studio setup

SM7B, sound treated room, Wooting

Is that the new Zowie monitor?

[mental hemlock]

Poseidon PSD60

[gray shoal]

It’s good some people don’t like the hollow noise of the case but with these lekker switches not gonna really matter as they are a quiet as they can get

Even with foam people complain about it but not everyone is the same

[stray tiger]

The official Wooting aluminum case is on the horizon and should be here this summer!

[bright spruce]

Since when are lekker switches quiet lmao

I mean yes "quiet" bc they don't have a click

[gray shoal]

They aren’t

Never said they were

Meant there is nothing else that can done for noise reduction

[bright spruce]

Ah ye

Exactly thta

Unless they somehow make a switch without the hole on the bottom

Would be pog

[normal schooner]

you can also drill in your case (dont its a joke)

[gray shoal]

[solid stump]

Man I've got the wooting lube kit, but I really don't to spend the rest of the day and night taking everything apart if it's not gonna improve stuff much

[tall hollow]

Some people tried to put tape on the hole to cover it up, it does absolutely nothing to dampen the sound

[hot kayak]

It definitely does improve stuff

[somber scroll]

It definitely does improve stuff

[tall hollow]

This

It’s 110 percent worth doing on the lekker switches

[solid stump]

Ok, guess I'm doing it then lmao

[hot kayak]

it does take awhile and it is annoying but its worth it just watch something while you're doing it

[solid stump]

How easy is it for you to "over-lube" the switches?

[hot kayak]

um tbh maybe the first time it's more prominent but you'll notice if its mushy and you're unsatisfied with it but for the most part i don't think it's tooooocommon

[solid stump]

Ok cool

[somber scroll]

Look up wootings guide on YouTube. Makes it easier not to overlube as you don’t do every single surface

[bronze grove]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

More lube, more better

[solid stump]

It has begun, I am pulling everything apart lol.

Also part of me wants to order some of the white wooting keycaps since the pudding ones I got are a little too bright, and I want to add a little flair to my kb - I wish I had ordered the grey/gunmetal klippe t instead of the black

[deep breach]

I might lube the lekker switches at some point once I have the wooting (well, after some time with it lol), would learning to lube switches using gateron linear switches be just as helpful (as in, are the insides and lubing process close enough where if I can do gateron consistently without messing up, could I do lekker without issues too?)

[crisp coyote]

It will be helpful sure, but I’m sure you’d be fine without the practice, just make sure to follow a vid on the lekker switches, it’s pretty hard to over lube them tbh unless your just going crazy with it xd

[hot kayak]

Yea its honestly pretty hard to overlube and even if you do you just wipe it off

[deep breach]

I'm more worried about somehow breaking a switch

[hot kayak]

Stabs you can definitely overlube if you just fully fill that shit in the wrong spot

Well with lekker its easier to not break switches cause they dont have pins

[deep breach]

Also, can I use MX keycaps on lekkers?

[hot kayak]

You can use any keycap

[deep breach]

Nice :D

[hot kayak]

Maybe not those ceramic keycaps cause theyre too heavy

[tall hollow]

nah, they work fine on 60 weight springs

[hot kayak]

Really? I swear the vids were saying you need at least 70g

Or it doesnt feel good unless you have that high

[tall hollow]

you can get away with 60 weight springs

[hot kayak]

Well the more you know, another shortcut for more thock

[simple vessel]

"The official Wooting aluminum case is on the horizon and should be here this summer!" Does this mean I should wait to buy case? Everything is out of stock anyway 😐

[hot kayak]

Baka60s are in stock

But like one color

[stray tiger]

If you don't need a case today you should wait and see what the official case details are. It's going to be spicy! 🌶️

[hot kayak]

Do you know what kind of mount the case is, or im assuming its just screw in

[stray tiger]

It will be tray mount just like all current 60HE compatible cases

[simple vessel]

I'll take your word for it and wait 🙂

[simple vessel]

Ofc it's pink only XD

[solid stump]

Halfway done opening switches to relube, any other mods I should do while I've got everything apart?

[stray tiger]

Just lube your switches and stabilizers and give it a whirl.

[mental hemlock]

Tape mod, foam mod

Burger mount

[stray tiger]

Doing too many mods at once is never recommended

[mental hemlock]

Lubing the switches is the hardest part lol. After that all mods are easy as fuck and dependent on what sound you want.

[solid stump]

I want thock

no clicky click

Any suggestions? Right now I've got o-rings to do burger mount, and stock foam

[stray tiger]

Then don't do tape mod or thicker foam

[solid stump]

klippe t case

[normal schooner]

fjell with brass bottom

[solid stump]

I thought adding tape to bottom of pcb adds to thock

[mental hemlock]

You can try it

[stray tiger]

From the upcoming modding FAQ:

Another commonly mentioned mod is the “Tape Mod”. The idea behind this mod is that applying tape to the bottom of your PCB will make the keyboard sound less muted and more “poppy”. This is a very simple mod and can be done with any quality painters/masking tape. Most users have reported that this mod does nothing for the sound of the Wooting 60HE and Wooting tried the mod themselves and had similar results. You can find that video here - https://youtu.be/6poF-Z0ajhE

The “Burger Mount” mod is yet another regularly mentioned mod that is aimed at reducing the sound differences occasionally heard at the mounting points on tray mounted keyboards. This is more prominent with aluminum cases as the frequency changes at the mounting points can be amplified in a metal case. This a fairly simple mod that only requires some 1mmx4mm rubber/silicone o-rings and some slightly longer mounting screws (M2*5) and you place the o-rings on the mounting screws between the PCB and the stand-off (optionally, you can place a second o-ring between the screw head and the PCB). You can find the Wooting results from burger mounting in this video - https://youtu.be/tlPX6gYSxyU

[mental hemlock]

Listen, keyboard modding is all about trial and error. The hardest part about any of this is switch lubing. After that, the rest of the mods are extremely easy.

[green pawn]

Are there any in stock polycarbonate cases for the 60HE?

[mental hemlock]

If I were you I would try tape mod and PE Foam mod

[stray tiger]

No sir

[solid stump]

pe foam mod?

[mental hemlock]

Putting foam between the plate and PCB

[solid stump]

O_o

Like more than the stock?

[hot kayak]

I thought pe foam on the pcb nesses with the magnet

[hot kayak]

Like actuation

[mental hemlock]

PE foam mod, tape mod. Gateron Yellows in Royal Kludge

[mental hemlock]

Not really

Cheap Amazon Blanks

[mint tusk]

Anyone knows a keycap sets that have symbols or some drawings instead of legends? Like Gmk dots f.e

I'd be grateful for some suggestions

[hot kayak]

Gmk pixels

[solid stump]

What's the deal with the different springs?

[bronze grove]

Define... different

[solid stump]

I saw someone mention heavier springs earlier

[hot kayak]

The springs determine a lot on your typing experience

Not too much sound

I personally go lower weight as my fingers feel tired with higher and it gives a “softer” feeling in a way

[solid stump]

Ahhhh gotcha

[stray tiger]

There is already foam between the plate and PCB by default.

[mental hemlock]

I understand that. People put a different foam.

Has anyone gotten tired of pressing their key board? Don’t know how that happens lol

[tall hollow]

I think that’s just you needing a break from typing

[bright nest]

Any opinions on how my wooting 60he sounds?

[mental hemlock]

I’m saying lol, other people get tired I’ve never had that issue

[shell geode]

Sounds like its right out of the box, as it should be before any mods

The spring ping is very present

[tall hollow]

definitely a lekker switch

[mental hemlock]

That’s definitely a Wooting keyboard, no doubt about it

[obtuse karma]

Just tried out the klippe t with silicone instead of foam. Only mods are the silicone and lubed stem and springs at the moment.

[tall hollow]

nice,

sound extra high pitched lol

[obtuse karma]

yeah the space bar is the main culprit. Think I need to get some foam for it

[tall hollow]

yeah, put some filler in it

[stray tiger]

Of the 2 Ive seen do it, both reported issues with inputs registering correctly. I'm not a fan of suggesting people do mods that are known to be problematic.

[tall hollow]

mhm

[nimble solar]

so I got this because it's in my budget and I don't want to spend loads, how good is this I'm getting (already had my switches) \

[shell geode]

Just to clarify, do you plan on swapping the 60he into the EK68?

[nimble solar]

Wdym by that

[shell geode]

Whoops! I misunderstood

[stray tiger]

I think he was confused that you got this for the Wooting since this is a Wooting keyboard modding channel

[nimble solar]

I plan on getting my keyboard, mod it, replace switches and maybe keycaps if they look hot, then I’ll change it since it’ll probably suck

[nimble solar]

Well that’s true, but I needed real good advice

I haven’t had any good advice

[stray tiger]

Unless someone has owned that board specifically, it's going to be hard to find advice on it here and because its a wooting community, it's likely to be a slightly biased crowd.

Try the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/450931575719198721 channel and you might have better luck

Folks, I've just added the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1103459740186595399 channel for initial community review. Please DM me privately if you have feedback/input about the FAQ. It will only be visible for a few hours (sneaking this in while most of the mods are asleep)

[nimble solar]

Alright thank you, appreciate it

[gilded hinge]

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[dapper venture]

Hi is tofu60 same as the 2.0?

[solid stump]

Will I ruin anything if I over lubed my switches?

Just got done reassembling everything, they're a little mushy but super smooth

[stray tiger]

You wont ruin anything, just a little mushy as you stated. However as the lube settles in after using them for a bit you'll probably find that the mushiness becomes less noticable or non-existent

[solid stump]

Ok cool, so what I'm hearing is don't worry, and give it some time to wear in?

I put a lot on, I lubed the green switch, the bottom housing, and the spring. I didn't leave any like "white" lube or like any big globs, but you could definitely see that there was lube on them

[tall hollow]

As long as you don’t see the white of the lube you should be ok

[solid stump]

Ok cool

it does sound REALLY good lol

Like creamy

[tall hollow]

Nice

Still got that signature lekker clack?

[solid stump]

Yeah, just way more muted

I also 3d printed tpu standoff covers to replace my burger mounts, and they work reallllly well

[tall hollow]

Nice

[tall hollow]

How’s that print farm going for ya?

[solid stump]

Pretty solidly. This upcoming weekend is maintenance weekend, so it's gonna be a long day on Saturday

[tall hollow]

Oof

[placid blaze]

I'm starting to really enjoy that sound

it's very unique, kind of hollow sound

I really haven't heard anything like it

[dapper venture]

Thank you

[tall hollow]

It is indeed a very unique clack

[placid blaze]

only issue is this isn't exactly a quiet keyboard

[tall hollow]

Oh, ofc it isn’t

It’s pretty noisy

[solid stump]

Actually, after lubing it's SIGNIFICANTLY more quiet

still got that return clack but otherwise pretty quiet

[placid blaze]

yeah no doubt

[tall hollow]

Still on the louder side I must say for linear switches.

[solid stump]

Yeahhhh

Not nearly as loud as my old anne pro 2 with Kailh Box Whites

[tall hollow]

Lmaooo

I had an old build with cherry blacks in it