🔧│keyboard_modding

[mental hemlock]

the second one sounded better

i think you need to lube them tho

[solid stump]

Yeah I've got lubricant coming from wooting over the next few days, so I'll definitely be doing that

Part of me wants to 3d print a plate cover or support or something for the usb, having it just hanging out kinda sketches me lol

[mental hemlock]

It should be fine lol

Like a usb c condom? Lol

[solid stump]

Exactly lol

It’s just free floating

I just took it all back out and retightened using my precision electric driver, also realized I left the center mount point still in there. Sounds much better and more thocky now, I think I had just overtightened the screws.

[mental hemlock]

Exactly

It’s not a car, little bit more delicate

[gray shoal]

Any suggestions on best way to bulk wash/clean new switches for lubing?

Should I remove springs and not wash them?

Can bottom housing be washed since it has the contact points?

[tall hollow]

best way is to use an ultrasonic cleaner with some degreaser and water, but a container with some water and soap would work, just have to do alot of shaking

although you can always used just straight rubbing alcohol if you dont have any degreaser.

oh and use distilled water if possible

the minerals in tap water may cause corrosion on the metal contacts

[fading holly]

Sound check @mental hemlock: Wooting 60HE PCB mounted in a Klippe T using M2x8 screws in all stand-offs incl. center. Burger-mounted with 5x2x1.5mm o-rings. Using 4mm layer of Klippe foam, all switches hand lubed, no tape mod.

[tall hollow]

[gray shoal]

@tall hollow thank you helpful as always

[tall hollow]

No problem

[bronze star]

would u mind sending me the model for it as i might build this myself

as im replacing my ouse and this looks like some fun

[shell geode]

I made this from scratch, meaning I opened an old gaming mouse (I don't remember the brand) and I measured it with a caliper, designed a cad for it, and then built the exoskeleton around it. I think it's better for you to start from scratch since all mice have different sized boards rather than work on mine and make changes to it

[bronze star]

ah fair enough

might have a go with it as i rely on a finger grip rn

[shell geode]

I got the inspo from Optimum Tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvz8KjCpdLE

[bronze star]

will prolly buy 1 or 2 new mice soon ish wanted to try smth like this

ooh

ty

<3

[shell geode]

Np! I got an idea of what he steps he took and just followed. I'm also gonna do another one, this time on a Razer Mamba TE to do a corded version to make the mouse even lighter

[bronze star]

:o

i will prolly go with a corded vers as i prefer wired > wireless

[mental hemlock]

wireless or bust

[shell geode]

Different preferences, I also favor wireless, but Im aiming to make my old mouse as light as possible, which will definitely be lighter than my DA V2 Pro, my current exo weighs around 50g with that fat ass 300mah battery

[tall hollow]

3D printable mice is a cool concept though!

A mouse body that can be custom made right at your desk!

[normal schooner]

omg we should give that idea to wooting

[tall hollow]

finally a use for my bambu lab x1!!??

[normal schooner]

im kidding

[tall hollow]

Lmao

[normal schooner]

I want a ultimaker

but not for the price

XDDD

[tall hollow]

DO NOT GET AN UNTIMAKER

you can get a Prusa that performs better for a fraction of the price

Heck, bambu lab printers will smoke ultimaker printers for a fraction of the price too.

[deep hazel]

anyone know if i can case swap wooting with drop carina? https://drop.com/buy/drop-carina-mechanical-keyboard-kit

[tall hollow]

Dunno

[normal schooner]

not enough details to tell

[tall hollow]

Yeah

[tall hollow]

If you wanna get started in 3D printing for cheap, you can get the OG ender 3 for like 100 usd.

[normal schooner]

im not getting that lmao

[tall hollow]

Lol

[mental hemlock]

i got an ender 3 but idk how to make it work if someone can help

[tall hollow]

What’s up with it?

[shell geode]

Hard to say. I haven't seen anyone else have this case and confirmed it, also there's only one screw on each side from looking at the plate, don't know if you're satisfied with just two screws holding your pcb down

[mental hemlock]

i got a bag from a friend that had a different nozzle

[tall hollow]

Mhm?

What about them?

[mental hemlock]

it was a gift its pretty dusty

habent taken the time to configure it

where do you go to set it up

[tall hollow]

Like how to swap nozzles?

[mental hemlock]

ill @ you later

[tall hollow]

Aight

[twin citrus]

is it okay for usb port to be like this?

it still fits

[mental hemlock]

yea

[twin citrus]

ok th

th

ty

[mental hemlock]

what case is that

[shell geode]

Looks like a tofu

[twin citrus]

tofu60

[mental hemlock]

you wanna angle it slightly more left than right with the tofu

[deep hazel]

anyone know if it is still possible to buy a tofu 60 anywhere or anything similar?

[normal schooner]

discontinued

look at the klippe t cool case

[deep hazel]

that case is nice is their anything else i need besides my wooting and case cause i already got keycaps

[somber scroll]

Max gaming has ewhite tofu 1.0s in stock still

[normal schooner]

you also need a wooting wristwrest

[somber scroll]

https://us.maxgaming.com/us/cases/tofu60-aluminum-case-60-e-white

I haven’t ordered from them but afaik a few people here have

[normal schooner]

and wooting lube tool kit

(jkjkjk)

[deep hazel]

lol

[mental hemlock]

why is it 108\

$127 shipped for that shit

[icy ivy]

I'm pretty new to the whole keyboard scene and got my 60HE today. I love the sound the space bar makes, is there any way to make the rest of the keys sound like this? https://imgur.com/a/1PJHjdP

[stray tiger]

The spacebar will always sound different because its a larger keycap with significantly different sound properties. I've never heard a keyboard where the spacebar sounds the same as the keys. That being said there are a ton of ways to change the sound of your other keys. I'd start by lubing them and then seeing how you like the sound.

[tall hollow]

this.

[mental hemlock]

well we cant hear it

[shell geode]

Click their imgur link, and there's a volume button on the top right

[mental hemlock]

ah thanks

@icy ivy i neber heard someone say that about their space bar lol, its always the opposite

i personally would add some foam or something inside the hollow parts of a space nar

or glue lol

[shell geode]

They're looking to make their keys sound thockier like their spacebar

[icy ivy]

I just like the way it goes "thunk"

[mental hemlock]

it just sounds hollow lol

[shell geode]

Yup, it's like Tirade said, the spacebar key itself is bigger and heavy, which makes the deeper sound. To have the keys sound the same, you would need heavier keycaps. Ceramic keycaps could be a choice: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/rwgl77/using_one_keyboard_with_ceramic_vs_pbt_keycaps/

[mental hemlock]

how about aluminum keycaos\

[shell geode]

ooo yeah, metal keycaps, that too

[mental hemlock]

someone needs to make a full aluminum keyb

[stray tiger]

Thats the beauty of the hobby. People will prefer certain sounds (clacky, poppy, thocky, creamy?) and in the case of my daughter she wanted rainbow and LOUD. Well that's exactly what she got.

[icy ivy]

This is an expensive rabbit hole I'm going down here lol

[mental hemlock]

keycaps, case, switch, plate

[mental hemlock]

im cringing lol

nice build but the sound lol

[stray tiger]

NK Sherbets switches if you're curious lol. Super clicky and annoying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysiMVOPOb8U

[shell geode]

Welcome! Glad to have you on board, we're also all broke here

[shell geode]

Do you sit next to her?

[stray tiger]

Hell no, she is upstairs haha

[mental hemlock]

i would probably hear that clicky from downstairs lol

[haughty delta]

You should get her one of those cases that has a solenoid in it lmao

Get some real clack

[stable hazel]

anyone have thoughts on lubing the wooting stabs with kytox 205g0 vs molykote em-50l, or minimal difference?

[haughty delta]

Everyone seems to recommend molykote or dielectric grease

I used dielectric grease personally

[deep hazel]

anyone know where i can get enjoy pbt blank keycaps

[mental hemlock]

i would just buy a separate 205 and 105g0 and dielectric grease

and a quality swicth opener

[stable hazel]

why the 105g0?

[mental hemlock]

buy the amazon ones theyre cheaper and better

[stray tiger]

Haha that being said, my girlfriend had to work from home and used my daughters keyboard one day and this was here text to me

[haughty delta]

Bag lube the springs

[mental hemlock]

spring lubing

[stable hazel]

ohh ok

[mental hemlock]

thats great lol

[stable hazel]

so 205g0 for switches, 105g0 for springs, and dialectric grease or molykote for stabs

[haughty delta]

Put a couple drops of 105 in a baggie, drop all the springs in, and shake

[mental hemlock]

absolutely

no need for anything else

[stray tiger]

Then spend 30min separating all your springs

[mental hemlock]

bad seed tech had a bid on how to lube switches fast

[stable hazel]

🫡

[haughty delta]

Yea true lmao

[mental hemlock]

he says to dip the stem in and let the housing lube itself through time

[stable hazel]

also thoughts on tx film?

[shell geode]

It was fun, but I'm glad I did the spring swap and re-lube and got it over with, because thinking about the process is giving me mild ptsd

[mental hemlock]

whats the take

is it worth to film these switches

[shell geode]

Only necessary if your switches has a housing wobble

[stray tiger]

Honestly, I stopped buying 105 and molykote over a year ago. This is pretty much all I use now https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-51004-Synthetic-Viscosity/dp/B000UKUHXK/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0 and https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-21030-Synthetic-Grease/dp/B000XBH9HI/ref=sr_1_10

[shell geode]

Wow these are so much cheaper quantity-wise

[mental hemlock]

sound test for your keyboard

please and thank you @stray tiger

so we know to buy this

[shell geode]

like when am I ever gonna run through a 3oz bottle of grease

[stray tiger]

I'm not trying to convince you to buy anything, just telling you what I use.

[mental hemlock]

im not mad

i just wanna know what yours sounds like so i can decide

[shell geode]

Such a good cost effective option

[stray tiger]

Decide on whether or not to buy the lube? You're not going to hear a sound difference between switch lubes on an online recording from an android phone sent via discord. Hell I dont think you would hear one in real life but who knows.

[mental hemlock]

im built differently

[stray tiger]

If you're going to be lubing 1000's of switches, superlube is a great value. If you just want to lube your wooting and maybe another keyboard, the wooting lube kit is a great deal!

[shell geode]

There's lube sound differences, say wha?

I just thought it was lube for switches and grease for stabs

[stray tiger]

Not to my ears

[mental hemlock]

send it tirade

[stray tiger]

Just for you I'll send you 5 done on 5 different cases. Klippe T Solid Brass Case, Klippe T Aluminum, Tofu60 Aluminum, Tofu60 Acrylic and Sentraq HP Aluminum

[mental hemlock]

sex

[stray tiger]

@mental hemlock now you get to tell me which ones were lubed with superlube and which ones werent.

[mental hemlock]

easy

all of them were

[stray tiger]

Well no, but good try haha

[mental hemlock]

dont lie to me

[stray tiger]

The 3 with the peach colored keycaps were done with the wooting kit back in Jan

[mental hemlock]

haha you got mer

i need to know if this is a switch that you should get films fot

[stray tiger]

No, films are not typically suggested. What issues are you having with your switches?

[tall hollow]

Huh, I really only use those on things like cars and my little RC stuff.

And on my machines as well

Never thought of using them in switches

[obtuse karma]

Has anyone tried a silicone mold with a Klippe T? Just curious how tight the fit is with the PCB and whether its worth it

[tall hollow]

Yeah, don’t film your switches unless the housing wobble is either really bad or if it really bothers you.

Because you will have a hard time getting these films onto these switches (trust me I know)

So if you wanna film your switches, it’s gonna add like 2 hours to your lube session.

[mental hemlock]

How did you lube your switches

And what did you lube and how

[tall hollow]

For me personally I put it on the rails of the bottom housing, the bottoms of the bottom housing, and the walls in which the stem goes through and where the spring goes. Then I apply a generous amount on the spring and put it into the bottom housing. Then I get the stem and add lube to the sides where the switch slides along the rails of the bottom housing and the stem pole. Then for the top housing I just put a small amount of lube on the sides where the stem hits the top housing. Although you can approach lubing how however you want to avoid overlubing, save time, etc.

[tall hollow]

Just used 205 grade 0 and a brush

Although the lube you use and the methods you use depends on what you want the switch to be like and how much you value your time.

[mental hemlock]

Give me a sound test.

[stray tiger]

How about you give us a sound test? I just gave you 5

[mental hemlock]

Why lol

[tall hollow]

I think he was talking to me lol

@mental hemlock correct me if I’m wrong.

[mental hemlock]

You’re wrong

[tall hollow]

Oop

[mental hemlock]

@tall hollow but please, give me a sound text

[stray tiger]

I'm asking him to provide a sound clip of his current wooting configuration since he is asking everyone else for theirs. I like a little give and take to make it fair.

[mental hemlock]

I want to hear everyone’s unique setup

[empty flax]

is there any post for 5° 60% ALUMINUM MECHANICAL KEYBOARD CASE? I would like to see it

[mental hemlock]

Well I have noting

[stray tiger]

I'd like to hear yours @mental hemlock

[stray tiger]

Check the pinned messages for the link to the keyboard case list

[stray tiger]

The 5 degree case works fine though, Ive got a few of them.

[empty flax]

oh i meant has anyone build with that case before?

[stray tiger]

Yes, lots of people, including me

[empty flax]

oh thanks. can i see it?

[stray tiger]

I don't have one built at the moment but I can show you pictures of the case if that helps

[tall hollow]

Gimme a sec, since I’ve made some changes since I’ve recorded my last sound recording lmao

[empty flax]

oh cause i read the notes in the compatibility list and it says it wont be in the center and am wondering if there's some sort of gap

[shell geode]

So you're the one buying up all the Tofus 😆

Beautiful 60 collection

[stray tiger]

It's off center by about .5mm or less in order to get the USB port to line up. I can show you how much of a difference it is. One sec

[empty flax]

okay thanks so much

[sleek grove]

Do SA profile caps work on the 60he?

[stray tiger]

@empty flax you can see how much you need to shift the PCB over. It's because the wooting USB connector is shifted to the right a small bit.

[tall hollow]

@mental hemlock here’s one sound test for you. Sorry if it’s a bit haphazardly put together lmao.

[mental hemlock]

I can’t even upload a clip

Why

[tall hollow]

Over 16mb?

[mental hemlock]

It says it’s over 25

[tall hollow]

Oof, maybe just upload the audio

[stray tiger]

Hah, I actually had over 60 cases that I bought from a vendor that was new old stock and sold them here in the forums at cost plus shipping/paypal fees to help others get a case.

[tall hollow]

That should take off at least 20 megabytes

[mental hemlock]

How do

[empty flax]

Do i have to do anything specific to shift it by a bit or it's just an additional info and there won't be any interference

[mental hemlock]

Noting60HE

[stray tiger]

Nope, you just shift the PCB very very slighty to the left when screwing in the screws so that the USB port lines up. Even if it's not perfectly lined up it will work. Mine is off by a little as you can see but it doesnt cause an issue and the cable plugs in just fine @empty flax

[tall hollow]

yeah, the screw holes are extra wide for this very reason.

[stray tiger]

This doesnt even sound like a Wooting so either good job or bad job depending on what you were going for lol

[mental hemlock]

Noting60HE

[stray tiger]

?

[tall hollow]

yeah lol, it doesnt have the same Lekker clack.

[mental hemlock]

NOTING60HE

[stray tiger]

I'm not saying it sounds bad, just not like any of the other 60HE's Ive heard.

[mental hemlock]

NO

TING

NO WOOTING

[stray tiger]

... wow lol

[empty flax]

oh alright. Thanks! I dont have any experience and it would be my first case mod. can't wait to build it

[tall hollow]

it has a very slight "sticky honey" sound to it.

[mental hemlock]

That sounds great

[tall hollow]

thanks!

I was going full clack build lol

[mental hemlock]

That’s why I’m asking YOU ALL for sound tests

[tall hollow]

definitely different from my usual builds.

[mental hemlock]

cough cough

So I can take ideas

[stray tiger]

Yeah sounds good man!

[tall hollow]

thanks!

[stray tiger]

I didnt know you didnt have a wooting yet because you are offering a lot of build advice and suggestions so I assumed you did

[mental hemlock]

I’m just built differently

I haven’t even built a true custom but I already have an idea of what to do because I like to tinker with shit

[mental hemlock]

What did you mean by this

[tall hollow]

cant wait until wooting releases the alu case though!

[empty flax]

oh I came across a case called A60 but it's not in the compatible list. Does anyone know if it might and has not been added to the list?

[tall hollow]

it has a slight stick to it, and I describe it as the "sticky honey" sound. probably from the lube in the switch or im just picking it up from other noises lmao.

[mental hemlock]

Haha this keyboard is not lubed lol

[tall hollow]

huh, factory lubed lekkers dont sound like that lol

[mental hemlock]

I’m new to PC. Gaming since last year of August, my birth month which I got gifted a PC

[mental hemlock]

It’s not a Wooting lol

It’s a Royal Kludge

But I have a thing for modifying things

[tall hollow]

I see

[mental hemlock]

This is the first keyboard I got, Royal Klude and just did a tape mod and foam

With the Wooting I’m gonna go all out

Blank keycaps and debadged

[stray tiger]

Looks the typical high profile cases off AliExpress. Will likely work fine but won't be as nice as your 5 degree

[stray tiger]

Thanks, I only have one board now that isn't a 60. I sold off almost everything else. Have one 65% left "just in case" lol

And because its probably my favorite sounding board so I refuse to part with it.

[mental hemlock]

Where’s the hookup on tofus and Klippes

[stray tiger]

The Tofu60 ship has sailed. You can still get Klippes directly from Mekansik. If you don't have your wooting yet then waiting for the official wooting aluminum case might be a good option

[mental hemlock]

Never

They’re trying to shill me on a strap

Can’t let them do that

[stray tiger]

Not a fan of the strap? You know it's removeable right?

[mental hemlock]

Not that I’m not a fan, I really like it honestly. It’s just that I’m more of a fan of the minimal look

Grey Klippe T, grey blank keycaps

That’s my look

@stray tiger

I know these are gradient but imagine it

[stray tiger]

I can dig it, my main 60HE is gray on gray

[shell geode]

It does look like it fits, but since its not a on the list, you can be the first to confirm if it does or not. I took the chance on the Baka60 and it is a confirmed fit

[shell geode]

main 60he? Are you implying that you have multiple??

[stray tiger]

@mental hemlock

[mental hemlock]

That’s sex right there

[stray tiger]

I do have 2 and a half lol

[mental hemlock]

Wooting 30 lol

[twin citrus]

anyone know keyboard feet/pad for the tofu60

[stray tiger]

You are looking for replacement pads/feet for the Tofu60?

[dim topaz]

anyone have one of these 2 keycap sets, or keycaps from the same manufacturer?
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/taihao-mxswitch-type-doubleshot-pbt-104key-keycap-set-lavastone-ac51301
https://www.pcbyte.com.au/p/keychron-double-shot-pbt-osa-full-set-keycap-set-keyboard-keycap-set-dark-black-pbt-01-353848
are these better in quality compared to the stock wooting PBT keycaps? i don't care about rgb compatibility

[stray tiger]

Both of those are going to be about the same quality as the stock wooting keycaps. I actually own similar or exact sets of both of the ones you listed.

[dim topaz]

ok thanks, then i'll not bother
looks like i'll have to go gmk tier to get better quality, but i'm not that not that much of a goner just yet

[stray tiger]

There are lots of options out there that arent GMK that are good quality caps. Check out NovelKeys, CannonKeys, PBTFans and other Wooting keycaps.

[dim topaz]

i've checked out the rest available easily in my country and they are either too expensive or out of stock
wdym other wooting keycaps? is there something more premium than the stock pbt keycaps that ship default with the ansi layout?

[boreal ingot]

If I put film switch’s will it ruin the Hall effect on the keyboard?

[shell geode]

Do your switch housings have a wobble?

[lament turret]

There's an official wooting case coming??

[lament turret]

Where do I find this list?

[devout haven]

Yes.

More information to come, but it is in works.

[boreal ingot]

@shell geode I just want it to sound really good but if it affects the overall performance of the kb then there’s no point

And wobble

[shell geode]

Unless yours have a wobble, it's not necessary

[bronze grove]

Pinned posts here are the answer to both of your questions.

[boreal ingot]

It rattles a bit ):

[static tendon]

Hello @stray tiger, I am considering a freebird60 case but I see it only has 4 screws. Do you think I’d run into any issues due to the potential added flex with the reduced amount of stand offs?

Just trying to get a secondary opinion here. Wondering if you’d have any thoughts on this one

[lament turret]

Thank you

[dire delta]

I have a wooting in my Salvation which only uses the top 2 screws

Also used the wooting in a klippe t which has 5 screws (1 more right to the spacebar)

both worked fine

Any Information on an ucpoming Alu Plate?

[bronze grove]

We don't have any plans for new plates. Steel is what we use to ensure it stays rigid under pressure. 🙂

[dire delta]

Aight thanks for the fast answer

[mental hemlock]

make your own

[dire delta]

generic alu plate with plate mount stab support from aliexpress will do the trick tho

[mental hemlock]

I'd rather just paint the plate black and be done with it

it does its job

[dire delta]

my goal was to alter the sound

[bronze grove]

That's always been possible. It's just not something we're considering.

The 60HE Alu case has the benefit of being compatible with third party PCBs.

The 2HE and fullsize keyboards have no such common standard.

The chance of us doing it is also 0% because of that.

[glacial seal]

Market so low it'd be more akin to group buy than anything else

But if they make a 60 case that's real nice it has wider appeal.

[tall hollow]

You shouldn’t run into any issues, since the board is already so stiff.

[tall hollow]

Floating keyswitch and unibody design

[bronze grove]

Nothing preventing you from making your own and share the files with everyone.

We do have the stock case files on github. And there's at least one person who recently shared some interesting CADs of a case they were thinking about maybe doing.

[tall hollow]

@marsh juniper is making a cool concept alu case for the 2HE

[empty flax]

oh how much will the alu case be and when will it be out?

[bronze grove]

TBD.

Hopefully summer.

[empty flax]

oh alright thanks!

[tall hollow]

Still in EVT?

[marsh juniper]

(personal project) Still work in progress and no idea what i am doing

[bronze grove]

Wouldn't that technically be DVT? Not much engineering to be validated in an alu case.

[tall hollow]

True it’s a lot of machining validation.

Making sure that you can actually manufacture the thing.

At scale too

[bronze grove]

The prototype showed off at WootUp was functional, so I would assume the designers are still finalizing the design details before we proceed to a retail product test.

[tall hollow]

Ah

I wonder what machining company they’re contracting to make these.

HAAS?

[bronze grove]

shrug

I just work customer support. I don't know the names of most of the companies we work with in China 😄

[tall hollow]

Lol

Assuming that the cases are Chinese made it’s probably not HAAS.

But they could use HAAS machines

Also I’m not sure if the company (wooting) makes the g-code and m-code and sends it to the manufacturer or the manufacturer just takes the model and approaches it their way.

[bronze grove]

That definitely sounds like the kind of question to ask Calder or Jeroen on the livestreams 😄

[tall hollow]

Oh, haha

I mean Calder is online

[bronze grove]

In body perhaps. Very busy week for everyone. I can't promise he'll actually check Discord at all.

[tall hollow]

Lolz

I mean, looking at the design, I can definitely make a few inferences as to how they would approach machining.

And more likely than not there’s definitely custom tooling (specifically part fastening devices) involved.

[twin citrus]

it doesn’t come w pads/feet

[edgy nexus]

Are gmk keycaps worth buying?

Red samouraï

[sleek grove]

I really like that colorway. I heard the drop gmks are a bit lower quality though. Not positive

[stray tiger]

Tofu60's definitely come with feet pads but if yours didn't you can get replacement ones off Amazon. Just get a multipack of adhesive silicone feet/bumpers

[twin citrus]

it does come with it

i didn’t see it

thanks

[edgy nexus]

Im lowkey mad they don’t have the nishi base kit

Its so nice

[sleek grove]

I really like the gmk posh set. Lol

[normal verge]

I want to customize the plate and use it, can anyone share the original 60he plate drawing?

[solid stump]

Ugh I should’ve ordered the grey klippe T instead of the black

[marsh juniper]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

[dark saddle]

Has anyone thought about a floppy case made of of rubber

So you can also bend your keyboard like your wrist rest

[haughty delta]

You could probably get a silicone one made pretty easily, but I feel like that would be terrible lmao

Also I don't think that would work super well with a tray mounted keyboard like this

[austere creek]

cant bend the keyboard with a silicone case

need a bendy pcb for that and topplate

and we did show a silicone prototype at wootup

[untold wigeon]

Update:

• tape mod (3layers)
• DROP White on Black Keycaps
• new Keychain

Looking to get a white tofu60 case

Is o-rings/burger mount the next step?

[lunar echo]

if do burger mount mod on klippe T, do I need to do something to the red area in this image?

[grizzled vine]

Does anyone know if this keycaps will fit for the Wooting https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09PGBV3NV/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3B8IVWGLFVGQQ&psc=1

[celest wedge]

Most keycaps will

[stray tiger]

Nope

[grizzled vine]

Aye that’s awesome to hear, thanks for letting me know

[stray tiger]

No, not in that configuration. You would need this one JSJT Custom Keycap-Keycaps 60 Percent, Suitable for GK61/GK64/RK61/Anne/GH60 /ALT61 Mechanical Keyboards, 71 Key Set, OEM Profile PBT Keycaps with Keycap Puller (Plum Blossom Keycaps) https://a.co/d/2Jr2vlG

[edgy nexus]

Wym shine?

[grizzled vine]

Ohh gotcha I appreciate it, I will def be sure to copp it then. That def looks better too I didn’t see that so thank you for plugging me

[jaunty rover]

spray painted it 👍

[tall hollow]

Nope

[tall hollow]

Nice paint job.

Does it feel chalky at all?

Or did you apply a finish to it?

[jaunty rover]

I spray painted the case with 2 light layers then very lightly sanded afterwards to smooth it out

[stable hazel]

Anyone have issues with coiled cables? And any recommendations for coiled cables that work well?

[tall hollow]

I see, usually I triple layer when spray painting lol.

[stray tiger]

Straight from the upcoming FAQ:

Q: Why is it recommended to use a 6ft(2m) or shorter straight cable with the 60HE? or Where can I find a coiled cable that works with the 60HE?
A: While almost any decently made USB 2.0 cable will work with the 60HE it's important to understand that the longer the cable, the higher the resistance. In order for the 60HE to sustain error free faster scan rates (Tachyon enabled) and power the keyboard LED's at their brightest setting, you need to ensure that you are using a quality cable with low resistance. If your cable is too long (this includes coiled cables that when uncoiled are typically much longer than 6ft) or made with inferior components, you may experience issues with Tachyon enabled and LED brightness set to maximum. You CAN use a coiled cable with the 60HE but you may need to turn Tachyon off or lower the brightness level of your LED's to 70% or lower.

[tall hollow]

This

Also there’s a really noticeable coil whine when you set the led brightness to 100 percent. Although I do have more sensitive ears than the average person lol.

Especially in a quiet environment it’s noticeable.

[stable hazel]

unlucky 🥲

[tall hollow]

What a day to have sensitive ears

98 percent of people will probably not even pick up the coil whine.

But I do.

[stable hazel]

🫠 u need to just experience more hearing loss

[edgy nexus]

What do you use instead?

[tall hollow]

Lol, my roommate and my classmates can’t hear it. Lmao

[stray tiger]

Straight from the upcoming FAQ:

Another common mod is to change your keycaps. The stock 60HE keycaps are OEM profile but almost any profile keycap will work! Changing your keycaps can have a tremendous impact on the sound of your keyboard depending on the keycap material and profile. You can read more about keycap materials here - https://next.wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps

[tall hollow]

There are also mods you can do to the keycaps themselves to change the sound lmao.

Any plastic can shine if you try hard enough

[stray tiger]

I actually add a little vibration putty to the underside of my spacebars quite often

[tall hollow]

Same lol

[stray tiger]

Also @edgy nexus in case this is your next question:

Q: I saw someone on youtube mention that I should turn my switches around to avoid interference with my keycaps because they are north-facing switches by default. Why do I need to do that and what’s the process?
A: Contrary to a few youtube videos, the overwhelming majority of today’s keycaps do NOT exhibit interference with the Lekker switches used in the Wooting keyboards. The original issue had less to do with keycap profiles and more to do with older mechanical switch housing designs. These issues have been resolved in almost all modern switch housing designs and that includes the Lekker switches. If you still want to swap your switches to south-facing, it’s simply a matter of removing the switch, turning it around and reinserting it. That’s it! If you want to learn more, please watch this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAppmiG484k

[tall hollow]

Yeah, most new keycaps have No problems with both orientations.

But if it does cause issues, it doesn’t hurt to flip them.

[stray tiger]

Well it was actually a switch housing design problem and less a keycap design problem. Ive tested the Lekker switches with over 50 different keycaps and havent had interference on any of them yet.

It's easy to check with a small piece of paper, like whats being used in that video (I saved a few fortune cookie slips just for this haha)

[stable hazel]

is there any harm in switching them to south facing?

[stray tiger]

No harm at all, just a little less brightness on your LED's

[stable hazel]

gotcha, just probably unnecssary?

[stray tiger]

Thats been my experience

[somber scroll]

Does it need to be specific putty? Or just something that adds a bit of weight

[stray tiger]

This is what I use https://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Fun-Tak-Mounting-2-Ounce-1270884/dp/B003LZMHIY/ref=sr_1_6

Cheaper than buying foam kits and easier than trying to cram other stuff in there. This sticks great (feels like silly putty) and comes off clean.

[sleek grove]

Does anyone know if the length mentioned in the cablemod builder is the coiled length when stretched out? I want a coiled cable but I’m trying to keep it under 1.8 m.

[dense snow]

i’d say R3 cherry profile keycaps (row with ASDF, etc.) has interference after doing a paper test

[pulsar ridge]

Finally got my second 60he sorted out. Both in Baka60 cases

[shell geode]

I use that too! It easy to apply and remove and creates a nice thock for the spacebar 👌

[somber scroll]

Did you just put it in the spacebar? Or some of the other stabilized keys as well?

[stray tiger]

I cant speak for him but I just put some in my spacebar if I think it needs it.

Depends on the sound profile or feel I'm going for

[celest wedge]

Hell yeah

Love the colors🏳️‍⚧️

[tall hollow]

Lol, same stuff I use too. Although I also do use it for what it’s made for.

[jaunty rover]

Thank you 🙂 I must represent the Pink, White and Blue of the Breaking Bad flag 🏳️‍⚧️ 🫡

[celest wedge]

Fr

Wait I have to show you my custom keeb

[celest wedge]

@jaunty rover

[tall hollow]

Nice, what keeb?

[celest wedge]

Freebird tkl

[tall hollow]

Ah, def looks like one.

Mine is just a grey with yellow accents

To match the 60HE color theme

[jaunty rover]

That looks awesome, also by any chance are you an osu! gamer

[tall hollow]

Lol yeah, I see the drawing tab

[jaunty rover]

Grip tape around the pen

and the 480

[tall hollow]

I go for the plain pen. It’s already for rubber on it.

[stray tiger]

I also have a soft spot for white keebs, it's one of the reasons I've held on to my last 65%

[jaunty rover]

Breaking Bad Flag

[tall hollow]

Only thing I don’t like about white keebs is how dirty they can get.

[tall hollow]

Or how obvious dirt and dust is on white keebs.

[tall hollow]

Ooh, nice!

[jaunty rover]

Yeah fr I just painted this keyboard and I'm already cleaning it lmao

[normal schooner]

[jaunty rover]

They asked

[normal schooner]

I think it was super funny

[stray tiger]

Thats the main reason I didn't go with Klippe or Tofu when I swapped cases. I prefer the lower angle and cherry lip

[tall hollow]

Yeah, the giant chamfers look very nice

[normal schooner]

you guys have more than 1 keeb?

[stray tiger]

I like to swap my keyboard every day of the week

[normal schooner]

yeah well I shouldnt have spend all my money on this fjell case

[stray tiger]

The Fjell is nice! Ive got one on my desk right now (although it's empty)

[tall hollow]

I gave 5 of mine away lol, now I’m down to just 2

[jaunty rover]

I have 5 at the moment

[tall hollow]

I needed some shelf space back.

[normal schooner]

do you guys have a tree that grows cash?

[tall hollow]

No, but I do have a good job.

[normal schooner]

you should try the tree

😛

[tall hollow]

I don’t think it’s worth the effort

[normal schooner]

I make a 2nd keep when the alu case comes

keeb

[tall hollow]

They were really nice keebs too

[sacred jay]

i can only notice the coil whine when my ear is facing it

[stray tiger]

Like most of us in here, I have a problem. I have however reduced down to only 60% boards except for 1

[normal schooner]

waiting for the teaser

[stray tiger]

From a space perspective I love 60% but yeah there are a few times when I like a 65%. Usually it's for dedicated arrow keys but I have 2 60% that have dedicated arrows on em

[normal schooner]

I miss the f keys as a software dev

and yes arrow keys

[jaunty rover]

This Wooting is the first 100% keyboard I've used in years and it's weird to have actual arrow keys and a function row

[stray tiger]

You can get dedicated arrows on some 60% layouts

Yeah it does, look at the second pic, the brass keyboard

The ? is next to the up arrow

[celest wedge]

Yep

[thick mural]

hi guys, dumb question, the 60he uses a 6.25u space bar right?

[celest wedge]

Yes

[thick mural]

gonna get a nice resin artisan space bar from etsy

[thick mural]

thanks

[celest wedge]

Cool

[shell geode]

Just spacebar, my other keys feel pretty solid

[misty bison]

I do. I live in NY. Marijuana is legal here. 😉

[shell geode]

These are beautiful!

[waxen wigeon]

Does anyone have a good recipe to make a Fjell sound thockier? I’m running foam under the pcb and it doesn’t sound bad it’s just a bit flat and muffled

[shell geode]

A sound test would be helpful! Also, what are your keycaps?

[waxen wigeon]

Gmk lavender

I’ll get a sound test for you

[somber scroll]

What’s the blue case? Is it 65% or just 60?

[stray tiger]

60%

[somber scroll]

Oh wait is it gasket mount?

[stray tiger]

It's a Midway60 if that helps

[tall hollow]

oooh

[somber scroll]

Oh gasket mount and center port lol. I love the look of it tho

[waxen wigeon]

@shell geode i have a soundtest for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqnsi08yY0E

[boreal ingot]

idk if i asked but can the wooting 60he use film switching or no

[tall hollow]

I have, but I dont recommend it, as it is really a pain to put them on.

[boreal ingot]

i want them to be firm i don’t like wobble and rattle sounds it makes @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

I mean, if it’s really bothering you, go ahead

But the stem will still wobble a little bit

[shell geode]

It does sound flat. Did you do any other mods besides the foam? You might have to change one mod at a time to find out where what's making your keys sound muffled, especially your tab, caps lock, and shift keys, they sound like they have a cushion in them or really really lubed up. See my post for the mods I did: https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1097648230176673872

[stray tiger]

@tall hollow I ordered some films today that a user on reddit stated (and I quote) "The BEST switch films you SHOULD BUY for the Lekker's" so we shall see.

[shell geode]

Please link those films!

[tall hollow]

can I see the reddit thread?

[stray tiger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WootingKB/comments/131gokk/the_best_switch_films_you_should_buy_for_the/

I actually commented to the OP that Ive never experienced wobble in my lekker housings and that Ive never had switch films make a noticeable change to stem wobble but that I was willing to buy some and try for myself as my goal is to provide the most accurate and honest information I can to you guys.

[tall hollow]

I also have polycarb films that have those led strip things cut out already.

[tall hollow]

nice

[stray tiger]

You guys can expect a full review from me with before and after stem wobble testing

[tall hollow]

for me it makes a slight difference in the stem wobble.

very slight

[boreal ingot]

@tall hollow do you have a sound test?

[tall hollow]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[stray tiger]

I've even got a fresh bag of virgin never mounted or lubed switches to test with so I should be able to do some solid comparisons

[tall hollow]

12 fresh switches?

[shell geode]

Looks more than 12!

[stray tiger]

12 x6

[tall hollow]

oh shit

thats alot of switches

why so many?

although ngl they are pretty cool switches

[dire locust]

i lubed my switches last night and i regret doing them at 11pm lol.

[boreal ingot]

@tall hollow W they sound really nice did you add tape mod too and re used the foam?

[dire locust]

made such a big difference for me

[tall hollow]

same case, and yes, 5 layers of tape.

[shell geode]

Yup, re-lubing is definitely a must when wanting to adjust the sound

[tall hollow]

ofc

and just overall feel

[stray tiger]

I had to swap out the PCB of a finnicky 60HE and decided I'd get a fresh batch of switches to go with it since it'll basically be a complete rebuild.

[dire locust]

now i regret only doing my spacebar.... i realized now that it sounds way better lol.

[boreal ingot]

i’m tryna go for a “thock” sound so i guess 6-7 layers would be good in a alum case @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

nice!

[dire locust]

now here i am again disassembling lmao

[tall hollow]

oh boy, thats gonna be very difficult.

[dire locust]

my fingers hate me

[boreal ingot]

@tall hollow how difficult

[tall hollow]

like, you're gonna have to do some crazy mods to have it thock.

[stray tiger]

Tape mod is known for creating more of a poppy sound

[shell geode]

It is very difficult to achieve thock, because of the design of the switches

[dire locust]

i have like 3-4 layers of tape on mine in the acrylic tofu and it sounds pretty good, i wonder if i add 2 more layers how much it will change the sound

[stray tiger]

From the soon-to-be-released modding FAQ:

Another commonly mentioned mod is the “Tape Mod”. The idea behind this mod is that applying tape to the bottom of your PCB will make the keyboard sound less muted and more “poppy”. This is a very simple mod and can be done with any quality painters/masking tape. Most users have reported that this mod does nothing for the sound of the Wooting 60HE and Wooting tried the mod themselves and had similar results. You can find that video here - https://youtu.be/6poF-Z0ajhE

[tall hollow]

like @somber scroll put silicone on the top housing and the stems of his switches.

even then it still has a clack, but closer to a thock than an unmodded switch.

[dire locust]

you think holee modding the stabs is worth lol.

[tall hollow]

and the sound is extremely muted

[tall hollow]

try just lubing them first

[shell geode]

I was thinking that heavier keycaps would help on the thock, but I'm also thinking that SA profiles could also help as well

[shadow phoenix]

@shell geode moving here so I don’t big the channel down but no other foam other than what I have in the keeb 😦

[tall hollow]

also it has a slight mushy feel.

[shell geode]

Definitely if your stabs have rattle

[shadow phoenix]

Might be able to scrounge some foam lol

[shell geode]

No worries! Just fill up what space you can, but of course not too tight that it's gonna press up against your pcb like crazy

I would say to have it sit flush with the standoffs

[shadow phoenix]

I should get some painters tape too

[shell geode]

Yah tape mod too

[dire locust]

if i use my gmk dualshot 2 keycaps, ill need to flip the switches right

[stray tiger]

Modding FAQ:

Often, users love the sound and feel of their keyboard out-of-the-box or have done some of the more impactful mods mentioned above and just want to make minor tweaks or changes to try and dial in a particular sound. One of the easiest ways to do this is to change the dampening material used in the keyboard. The stock dampening foam used in Wooting keyboards is fantastic, but you can fine tune the sound by choosing a different type of foam or even using a different material. Some of the more common choices are fire-resistant polyfill, silicone and closed cell foam. It’s important to remember that regardless of the material you use, you want to ensure that you keep the material far enough below the case stand-offs to avoid having the PCB pushing against the material when the PCB is installed. If the dampening material pushes against the PCB and causes flexing or warping, you will get input errors when typing. Also, the Wooting PCB does generate heat and giving it a little bit of room to breathe is ideal. If you want to see Wootings results of using silicone as the dampening material, you can find that video here - https://youtu.be/n6k2mpfPSxs

[tall hollow]

oh yeah, bending of the pcb or plate will cause issues.

it changes the distances between the switch and the sensor very slightly

and that slight difference will throw it off.

its also the reason why you shouldn't even consider a flexible plate for a wooting pcb

[stray tiger]

Once the FAQ is finished with peer review I'll create a read only FAQ channel and then we can just link people to it for 95% of the questions that come through daily

[tall hollow]

can we add to it?

[stray tiger]

Speaking of plates:

Q: Are there any aftermarket plates available or can I make my own plate?
A: There are currently no ready-made aftermarket plates available for the 60HE. However, Wooting has provided the CAD files needed to make one yourself or have one cut by a 3rd party. You can find those files at the following link - https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design
Bonus: If you are planning to make a plate yourself, it's advised that you use a very stiff material to avoid the plate flexing and causing erroneous inputs. Additionally, the plate needs to be securely mounted to the PCB with stand-offs to ensure the proper distance between the plate and PCB is maintained at all times. Wooting keyboards use a steel plate by default, and you can refer to this chart for the stiffness ratings of common plate materials:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1100906535678394488/image.png

[stray tiger]

You can certainly send the edits to me to add but even my own information has to be reviewed internally first, but I'd welcome input and updates

[tall hollow]

yeah, because the FAQ will have to change as the keyboards and product landscape change

[boreal ingot]

@shell geode @tall hollow i can still achieve it though right?

[tall hollow]

it is doable, but at the cost of the keyboards performance and feel.

[shell geode]

I think it's possible, but like Ducky said, it may not perform or look the way you would want your build to your taste

I'm thinking of trying my SA keycaps and seeing how much deeper the keycaps alone would change, although I wouldn't want them on my 60he, they're too tall

[stray tiger]

Best bet for a thocky board is as @shell geode said, a thicker and higher profile keycap, a very solid/heavy/thick case and a lot of trial and error with your dampening material.

[shell geode]

Using a desk mat also helps. Having the board rest on the desk can sometimes create vibration and echoes, depending on the material of the table (glass, composite, wood, marble, concrete, etc)

[stray tiger]

Only a savage doesnt use a deskmat

[tall hollow]

me

I embrace the bold look of wood.

[shell geode]

oof

[stray tiger]

You have proved my point! Savage!

[tall hollow]

indeed

deskmats get yucky after a while lmao

[boreal ingot]

so what’s the typical sound of modded wooting with just lubed switch’s film switches and foam + tape mod

and alum case

[stray tiger]

You just have to buy enough that you can rotate through them with each keyboard or pick up one of these https://keebmat.com/

[stray tiger]

No way to answer that

[somber scroll]

@shell geode did you ever hear shrink your stabs? (Or maybe it was someone else who was gonna do that)

[shell geode]

I never went back to cut a shorter length and re-shrink them. Funny enough, I actually just holee modded my spacebar and left shift stabilizer last night! I used bandaid this time and made sure to not overlap or the wire would be stuck in the housing. Solid so far and no rattle, of course!

[somber scroll]

Oh nice haha. Still the stock stabs? Or aftermarket?

[shell geode]

Yup, still on the Durock stabs. If the bandaid comes off, I'll try re-shrinking a shorter length

I noticed that with the bandaid wrapped on the wire, it pushed out the medical tape I had applied in the stab housing, so it seems either one or the other, there's no room for both

[shell geode]

Mekanisk just uploaded a YouTube video on how to swap the 60HE to the Klippe T: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq-H4KolQlI

[tall hollow]

noice

[normal schooner]

thank you very much for sharing

[shell geode]

No problem! I'm sure it was going to make its way to this channel eventually, figured we'd share and/or pin it to answer the 'will it fit in klippe t' questions

[rigid patrol]

my fjell came in

man its a chonky one

[normal schooner]

we have never pinned a video from third parties... but I did share the video with staff 🙂

[normal schooner]

we got a baller here 😄

[rigid patrol]

lmao

thankies

[shell geode]

Oh okay!

[rigid patrol]

I love this board to death

gonna give my old board to my gf

[normal schooner]

Im looking forward to the final picture 🙂

[neat spear]

I saw a vid of someone gummy o-ring mounting the wooting 60he into the klippe T. Anyone try this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U6prjMZ_MM

or anyone try gummy o-ring mounting in ANY case?

[craggy spear]

It would be neat if the wooting 60he has some under glow. Maybe in a furture version

cause then it'd look even cooler in acrylic cases

[somber scroll]

Iirc @stray tiger has done it. Not sure if they’ve done it in the klippe tho

[stray tiger]

Yes, I've posted a few videos in here of doing it with a number of cases, including the Klippe T

https://youtu.be/TotSEWmSxoQ

[shadow phoenix]

@shell geode could I dm you for some help with the baka

Hmm putting the foam in the baka and then trying to screw it in keeps ending up in the port leaning towards the right

Looks ugly but I wonder if this is ok

Oh, the baka only has 4 screw posts

[small folio]

Anyone else have to mess with the stock foam to fit in the PSD60? ^^^

[shadow phoenix]

okay had to position the pcb more to the left, the badseedtech video is a good one

[small folio]

Had to rip this piece off for the USB to fit through, maybe I’m just dumb

[shadow phoenix]

i thought i was going to have to remove some foam to fit the baka but i think so far so good

[shell geode]

DM me!

[shell geode]

oh okay, let me know if you need any help!

[shell geode]

It's okay to remove that and work with whatever fits and doesn't press up so tightly against the pcb

[small folio]

Sounds good, after removing that smaller strip I was able to just drop it in so it fit the usb port

Thank you!!!

[shell geode]

No problem! I have the PSD60 non-re version, so I think the interior spacing are similar

[small folio]

Nice just got mine in today, loving it so far!!

[shell geode]

Nice!! 😀

[shadow phoenix]

I think I’m in the clear now! I dont know how much more clearance I have but I’m assuming 2 layers of tape would be okay

Honestly it sounds good to me now so that’ll be my excuse not to relube rn

[shell geode]

Awesome, make a sound test video!

[static tendon]

Nice, ended up removing middle screw and bottom screw 🙂

[shell geode]

Good! Less holes to cut out of your foam 😅

[static tendon]

Anyone here able to type 140WPM?

[stray tiger]

Yes

[static tendon]

Geez, what's the fastest typing speed you've gotten? Struggling to get above 120+

[stray tiger]

Although with an accuracy of about 60% 😂

[static tendon]

I got 2 friends who can hit 160 WPM it's insaaaane. Makes me feel so slow, I am forcing myself to type with my pinky as well. Been at it for about 2 years now with pinky typing

The "proper" way to type

[stray tiger]

Yeah I don't really use all 5 fingers on my left hand when I'm running monkey type.

[static tendon]

Hmm interesting, good to know

[stray tiger]

Just years of bad typing habits

[static tendon]

Yeah same here, been forcing myself to do it correctly, i'm not sure i'd say it's paying off. I've improved but to be honest in the past I feel like me typing without my pinky made me faster. 😮

[shadow phoenix]

will do!

[static tendon]

@stray tiger just curious but what is your current wooting setup like?

[mental hemlock]

how is aluminum weaker than carbon fiber or brass

[dire locust]

Redid all the stabillizers and did the holee mod... my goodness its great lol, was definitely worth my time lol

[shell geode]

Nice!! Glad it turned out for you!

[static tendon]

Did your stabilizers feel more "sluggish" by any chance?

[dire locust]

not that i notice. my left shift does feel a tad bit mushy compared to the others but thats probably my fault and put a little too much on that setr

set*

[static tendon]

Did you re-lube just the wire or did you also lube the entire stab housing as well?

[dire locust]

i redid everything cause i did the holee mod on them

[static tendon]

I see, did you also use krytox 205g0 or did you end up using some sort of grease?

[dire locust]

i used 3203 on the housings actually and used dialectic grease on the wires

[static tendon]

Right on, that's awesome, bet it sounds a lot better

[dire locust]

it sure does, lol.

I also put 5 layers of tape behind the pcb instead of 3

dont know if it really made that big of a difference but i am pretty happy with how it turned out,

[static tendon]

I'm not sure if I'm picky or if my springs are too loose but typically when I lube the stabs I feel a slight "slugish" feel and I end up just removing most the lube.

Nice!

[dire locust]

yeah i had to actually wipe some of the lube off from the shift button, it did help but it does feel a bit different

[mental hemlock]

sound test

[dire locust]

will try to record one and post in here soon

[wicked stream]

does any1 knows if this is this the psd60 but without any logo on it?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005344620473.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=20933859064&aff_fcid=71e3d69006e54d1791da12c8b2c36828-1682748327399-04114-_ms2j8Ta&tt=MG&aff_fsk=_ms2j8Ta&aff_platform=default&sk=_ms2j8Ta&aff_trace_key=71e3d69006e54d1791da12c8b2c36828-1682748327399-04114-_ms2j8Ta&shareId=20933859064&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=ebbf804aa4084b91b2f33fe9c884c126&afSmartRedirect=y

[shell geode]

Yup, that's the one!

[acoustic lark]

Does anyone know of a high quality Burgundy/red case for the wooting 60HE? That’ll be in stock soon or is in stock atm?

[tall hollow]

I have a friend who can hit 200 with 95 percent acc.

[hollow saffron]

How do I determine if my new keycaps need the switches to be north- or southfacing?

[bronze grove]

You put them on. And if they scrape you need to swap them.

It shouldn't be an issue though - Gateron fixed the housings ages ago.

[hollow saffron]

Okay, thank you! I’m gonna take the whole board apart for lubing etc so I wanted to avoid having to put on the keycaps twice, but I’ll do it to be sure. Appreciate it

[vernal folio]

what to do the usb c port broke

[bronze grove]

Define broke.

Also #1019755933959733258

[vernal folio]

its like not connected to the black thing

[bronze grove]

Make a post over in the aforementioned channel and please use more words to describe the issue

[austere creek]

and pictures if possible

[vernal folio]

ok

[shadow phoenix]

so it turns out i installed my pcb a little too far to the left. my tab key is hitting my case lol

time to re-do it

[silent light]

Saw a Fjell Wooting build on the subreddit, very interested in picking one up. How do you like yours so far?

[lavish dew]

just finished lubing for the first time on the wooting, lubed my space bar and now it feels like its travel is halved and sounds awful too. does any1 know what went wrong and how to fix it?

[bronze grove]

Make sure the stabilizer wire is set properly if you removed the stab.

Also make sure you pot the switch back together properly of course.

[zinc scroll]

Um, i know this question has been aasked before but i ccant remeber the convo about it anymore

Are ther any third party policarbonate plates that fit the 60HE?

[bronze grove]

You need a custom plate made from scratch. It also needs to be very rigid. Steel levels of rigid. Otherwise it might interfere with the sensors.

[zinc scroll]

Ah yeah, the sensetive sensors. I remember now. Well, thanks anyways :P.

[sleek grove]

Does holee mod mess up the sensors?

[thick mural]

Holee mod only affects the stabilisers not the switches, so no

@stray tiger looks like i'm trying them out too

[tall hollow]

nice!

[delicate atlas]

Is topu60 alu, zipfit and o ring is enough?

How is the zipfit?

[shell geode]

Can you clarify what you mean by 'enough'? And the zipfit works well as a foam insert. I had 4 layers in the Baka60 (2 in the cavity, and 2 more over the cavity) and it helped fill in any gaps and muted the sound 👍

[shadow phoenix]

that's what i need, if i had zipfit i definitely wouldn't have to worry about excess smooshing

[tall hollow]

ooh!

[rigid patrol]

I didn’t mind the stiffer typing, it feels quite sturdy and that’s pretty good

[shadow phoenix]

@shell geode does this look okay to you? With the pcb showing? Redoing it rn though because my tab key is hitting the case

[rigid patrol]

In my opinion it doesn’t as much to the sound as I would hope

[normal schooner]

well yeah the only big differnce is manual lubing

[bright spruce]

well ofc when the switches sound hollow af

cuz they arent closed

bc of tahe hole for the magnets

its a gaming keyboard doe

so its aight

[bronze grove]

That's spot on.

[ember gorge]

does anyone know if there is really much of a difference between the zipfit and included foam in person?

i cant notice much of a difference on video

[shadow phoenix]

thanks mansen! will only shift it slightly to the right then

[bronze grove]

A trick you can do is plug in a cable (not plugged in on the other side of course), so the plug can't go out of the slot.

[shadow phoenix]

The clearance is so small, third times the charm

[errant ledge]

Hello umm 👉👈
Will I void the warranty if I remove the ABS case and spray paint it?
I just wanna be one hundred percent sure lol

[bronze grove]

If nothing goes wrong? No.

TLDR; If you break something, your warranty on that thing is gone.

Lube a switch? That switch's warranty is gone, but the rest of the board* is fine.

As long as you're careful and follow sensible guidelines, you should be good.

We have videos on case swapping as well as full disassembly in the lubing video.

[errant ledge]

Got it, thanks for letting me know.

[tall hollow]

what case is this?

[ember gorge]

does anyone have any non-seethrough keycap recommendations?

[shadow phoenix]

K this is the best I can do

[shell geode]

This looks good, but if you are still adjusting, loosen screws, you don't have to fully take them out and shift your pcb little by little

[shell geode]

That looks good!

[shadow phoenix]

Baka60!

I’m just so anxious about messing with the port over time

[tall hollow]

oof.

[shell geode]

Just treat the port better than your own phone charging port and you're good 😆

[shadow phoenix]

True true!

[tall hollow]

yeah. because it isn't really supported at all other than being soldered to the pcb.

[wary pollen]

slr, I haven't yet. Been handling a lot of other stuff financially atm

[shell geode]

Yup, it's truly floating without some sort of support

[tall hollow]

yeah, its only slightly unfortunate.

[shadow phoenix]

Woo no more scraping

[shell geode]

Nice!

[tall hollow]

like, they could hav used something like this

[shell geode]

Just make sure not to rip out the zipfit in that area so the port can rest on the foam if needed

[summer kettle]

anyone know where to buy a tofu 60 version 1? haven't seem to be able to find a seller anywhere online

[tall hollow]

heck, even this could have worked.

[shell geode]

Only place I know of: https://us.maxgaming.com/us/cases/tofu60-aluminum-case-60-e-white

[tall hollow]

klippeT is also an option

[summer kettle]

they don't got silver 😭

[shadow phoenix]

[boreal ingot]

i’ve decided to film switch the switches ):

[tall hollow]

why the sad face? lol

didnt work?

[boreal ingot]

when it was stock it was wobbly

and now it’ll take me like 3 hours to do everything @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

you're just filming the switches right?

[shell geode]

Yeah sorry, I think it's just white

[shell geode]

Welcome to keyboard modding 😅

[boreal ingot]

@tall hollow @shell geode i’m doing the whole 8 mile

[tall hollow]

hmm?

[boreal ingot]

film switches, case swap, lubing, and keycaps and tape mod

i just don’t want no rattling

[tall hollow]

oh boy, all that will take at least 2 days to complete

[boreal ingot]

when i first opened it, it was nice for a stock keyboard but after a bit of gaming on it

performance is amazing but i feel i can make it sound better

i play a lot of fort and val @tall hollow

[tall hollow]

nice

[summer kettle]

anyone know if this site is legit? https://auramech.com/products/kbdfans-tofu-60-aluminum-case?variant=38156699336899

[boreal ingot]

the only thing i’m waiting on is the case now 😅😅 i ordered it last min and it’s coming from yanwen so

cause when i spoke to ppl they said their keyboards took like 3 months to come in but mine came a little over a month which is really good but caught me by surprise ngl

[tall hollow]

nice

[elfin peak]

you guys ok w/ fjell still?

[normal schooner]

ofc if you use a fjell, you have a +10% chance to get non toxic teammates

[shadow phoenix]

Is this foam fine to put into my keyboard? Seems like it would be. Nice and thin

[normal schooner]

that is fine 🙂

[shadow phoenix]

sweet!

[normal schooner]

try out the tape mod aswell while youre at it 😉

painters tape will do

[shell geode]

Palms are sweaty

[boreal ingot]

you caught the reference @shell geode

[shell geode]

Yup, it's a cheap and inexpensive foam to try! You can go only up from here 👍

[normal schooner]

8 mile on the autotrack

[tall hollow]

Yeah, like switch pads.

[shadow phoenix]

yeah i can fill in the cavity with like 2 layers of this foam and then add the wooting foam. hopefully that isn't too much

[shell geode]

Looks legit! But no freaking way, I saw that they were selling Durock screw-in stabs V1 for $3! They must have sold out fast!

[mental hemlock]

haha

is tape mod the play for this keeb

[tall hollow]

So true

[mental hemlock]

it just seems like its really hard to make these switches sound good but im up for the challenge

[shadow phoenix]

looks like the owner took a break or something and put everything on sale

[mental hemlock]

lol what did he do

[shell geode]

Actually, I spoke too soon. This may be two years ago, but possible it's still an issue today: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/jsofrm/caution_against_ordering_from_auramech/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

He's having trouble fulfilling orders and communication is trash according to the top comment made by content creator Alexotos. I get that it's tough running a business, but he may have bit off more than he can chew

[summer kettle]

Damnn

Can't even checkout if I wanted to website just wont let you

Feels like tofu 60's are just as rare as gold now

[shell geode]

It is hard and challenging, but worth trying like you said!

[shell geode]

Yup, especially when you can mod with products from other brands, then the demand rises

[shadow phoenix]

and the bakas are running oos real quick

https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/1336qbh/cabc_h_tofu_60_case_silver_w_paypal_cash/

if you're in CA or dont mind the shipping @summer kettle

[shell geode]

The keyboard building community is growing and now everyone wants to build their own board now, so it's not just Wooting coming out with the 60he that's making cases sell out

[summer kettle]

I'm from Ireland 😭

[summer kettle]

But thank you for the link!! ❤️

[shell geode]

$70 and posted 8 minutes ago?? You should jump on this!

Oh dang, just read that you're in Ireland

[shadow phoenix]

F

[stray tiger]

Yep, still the best case available

[mental hemlock]

why do people like that case so much

[stray tiger]

Best build quality, best finish quality and heaviest case

[elfin peak]

I bought it in purple but still haven’t tried it

Because it looks like a short mountain

[stray tiger]

Well 2nd heaviest case 😆

[mental hemlock]

dont like it personally

i think the Klippe is the best choice if you got the money

[stray tiger]

Fjell literally means mountain 😉

[tall hollow]

The shape is a bit weird to me though lmao

[silent light]

Thanks for the response! Have you done any mods to it at all? And can you elaborate on what you mean by how it types stiff?

[mental hemlock]

i agree

[stray tiger]

Visual preference has no bearing on what makes a case "the best" though

[tall hollow]

I refer the clean look of tofu style cases

[mental hemlock]

the klippe has the same "build quality" lol

[tall hollow]

They are made by the same guys

[mental hemlock]

dont understand the appeal on the fjell

[mental hemlock]

i know thats why im confused

[stray tiger]

Same finish quality, not same build quality or weight

[tall hollow]

Different design really.

[silent light]

Very pricey tho

[tall hollow]

Brass weight

[silent light]

Makes sense

[rigid patrol]

I tape modded it and lubed the stem but thats all

[stray tiger]

Fjell weighs almost 3x as much, the brass weight is a nice touch for both acoustics and weight

[tall hollow]

Also doesn’t move around as much when you use it.

[silent light]

That company has a 65% case, right?

[tall hollow]

I believe so

[silent light]

I've got a kbdfans67 case id eventually would like to upgrade from

[mental hemlock]

1kg is 2.2 lbs right

[silent light]

I won't lie, I played on 60% and I didn't enjoy the productivity experience on a 60% compared to a 65%

[mental hemlock]

i dont understand why someone would want something bulkier, and thats without the pcb switches etc

[stray tiger]

I have 2 setups currently. One is in a kind of unique lower profile Fjell style case in gunmetal gray with a brass weight and the other is in a limited edition solid brass Klippe case that weighs over 8lbs. I'm working on a 3rd build right now using a polycarbonate top mounted case called the Sirius 60

[silent light]

Playing games on 60% is fine, the typing for me isn't as satisfying, but that could be because I didn't give myself time with it

[mental hemlock]

tell me thats not a dream case to build in

[static tendon]

Oh snap!! That’s actually amazing. Fully brass case. I’d be interested in one of those If they re-release

[mental hemlock]

looks just like the tofu, clean logo, bulky, no unnecessary pockets

[stray tiger]

It was a run of only 30 units done back in 2019 with no plans to ever do it again. It's def heavy!

[tall hollow]

My own custom designed case im thinking about milling myself out of solid steel.

[static tendon]

I bet. Very unique to have something like that, is it like a brass color as well or does it have some paint over it?

[stray tiger]

It's nickel plated brass so has brushed brass (silvery gold look). Let me find a photo

the other case looks like a lower profile fjell

[silent light]

Very nice

[mental hemlock]

that would be dope as fuck

how would it look

[mental hemlock]

pure sex

[stray tiger]

@tall hollow you should do what this guy did and just go oring mount https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XFBIqrewXU

he has the cad files already and he was nice when we talked

basically took the Bakaneko60 case and moved the USB port to the left to fit DZ60/GH60 boards

[stray tiger]

@lethal temple have you received your Sirius60 plate yet and did you make the mods to the plate file yourself?

[ember gorge]

How much was that 😦

[lethal temple]

Just started to ship from hong kong, took around 2 weeks to manufacture

I did make the plate file myself so it may not match the exact dimensions so I will test it and message you when I do

[stray tiger]

I bought it from an original owner. I think the original price was $300 for the case and the last time I saw some hit the used market was 2yrs ago and they both went for almost $600 each

[stray tiger]

Oh nice, mind shooting me the plate file? I can quickly compare to some others I have

[ember gorge]

That's more reasonable than I would have expected tbh

[stray tiger]

Yeah, just the materials alone make them worth a ton (pun intended). I expect they would still go for $600+ if one ever pops up.

[tall hollow]

Hmm, where can I find these o rings?

[tall hollow]

But I want to make something that is truly my own.

[stray tiger]

These are the ones I use - https://graveshift.com/products/graveshift-m-o-rings

[stray tiger]

For sure, just letting you know someone has already done something similar if you wanted to save some time and money

[mental hemlock]

@tall hollow i would build it

i know it seems counterintuitibe to make something you can buy already made and that works, but thats the whole point. you make something with your own hands and thats more meaningful, at least to me

[tall hollow]

I have my own machines and I have Fusion,

what hardness of O rings do you use?

[stray tiger]

I should have you CNC me a few plates then! Cant do countersinking on laser cut plates unless they are like 3 times as thick as a plate should be

I prefer the 45-50a hardness but thats a personal thing

[tall hollow]

lol, my mill unfortunately cant do plates

it will chatter like crazy

[stray tiger]

@woeful prairie has tried a few different hardness ones as well and may have some advice for you

[tall hollow]

ah, thanks!

[mental hemlock]

what material would you like to see the plate made out of @stray tiger

or @tall hollow

[stray tiger]

Carbon Fiber might be a nice change up. Almost as hard as steel. The ones Ive had made so far have all been aluminum or brass though.

[mental hemlock]

would it change the acoustics meaningfully\

[tall hollow]

yeah Carbon fiber

[stray tiger]

Sure, different plate materials have different sound characteristics

[tall hollow]

3d printed carbon fiber is a thing.

[mental hemlock]

dont think thats possible

[tall hollow]

well see they cheat a little bit, its a mix of carbon fiber and nylon.

like most polycarb sheets

[mental hemlock]

why does the plate need to be so stiff again

[stray tiger]

Ive not had any CF plates made because its expensive. I can have 3 aluminum plates made for the same cost as 1 CF plate

[tall hollow]

so it doesnt mess with the hall sensors

[mental hemlock]

what if i get my friend whos a professional 3D designer to make it

and mass man. would you buy it

[stray tiger]

We dont need a 3d designer, the files are readily available

• https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

[mental hemlock]

but he can cut it out of any material

he makes splitters for cars

[stray tiger]

So can 100 other places

[mental hemlock]

has worked on porsches

[stray tiger]

I use these guys https://sendcutsend.com/

[mental hemlock]

lol no way

are you a car guy

[tall hollow]

yooo

[mental hemlock]

i know about send cut send from superfastmatt

guys dope as fuck

did you send them the file or are you waiting

[stray tiger]

They have cut over a dozen plates for me

[tall hollow]

I have heard of them, but I just went for a local facility before I got my waterjet.

because the lead times are way faster.

[tall hollow]

I'm assuming that the harder the material, the harder the typing experience, and the softer the material, the softer the typing experience.

[stray tiger]

Pretty much. Software rings are also a little thicker and absorb vibration a bit more. I think I'm using a 35 or 40a right now

[tall hollow]

could check using the color

tryna achieve something softer, so im looking at some softer o-rings

[lethal temple]

I couldn't find a sirius60 plate file so I hand measured the tab dimensions from the included pom plate. I decreased the size of each tab and increased the hole size incase my measurements were not exact

[stray tiger]

The plate file is available in their discord my man (it's pinned)

[lethal temple]

ahhh, classic information that you can't find on google because people use discord

[tall hollow]

I might go 40A

[lethal temple]

can you send me the plate file by any chance? thanks

[mental hemlock]

it says its deleted

[mental hemlock]

is anyone here interested in SFF slash ITX pcs

[steep minnow]

anyone have any recommendations for a lower profile keycap set - dont care for backlighting and kinda prefer blank

love the board and the switches but i cant get comfortable with the default keycaps

they feel too tall and weirdly grip my fingertips (doesnt have as matte of a feel as id like)

might actually be the opposite and its too matte/grainy idk how to explain it lmao

my other keyboards feel a lot better personally

[dense snow]

XDA profile keycaps; they’re not sculptured like the default OEM profile or cherry profile caps

[steep minnow]

ill look them up ty

[dense snow]

they’re pretty low and they’re flat

what other keyboards specifically?

what type of keycaps do they have?

[steep minnow]

i use a moonlander and a kbd75 but i cant remember what set i put on the kbd

theyre about half hte height of the wooting default ones

[dense snow]

is it cherry profile?

[steep minnow]

i believe so

the switches are cherry

[dense snow]

i believe you’re referring to cherry profile keycaps which are essentially shorter oem profile keycaps (kinda)

[steep minnow]

i think my kbd actually has dsa after looking up the profile comparisons

theyre very low compared to wooting and p much completely flat

[dense snow]

ah okay

dsa or xda would be good for you (xda is taller)

[steep minnow]

ill look a bit more into them

tyvm for hte help

driving me crazy because i really like the board but the keycaps are borderline unusable for me

too used to lower profile i think

[dense snow]

i personally don’t mind them since i’m accustomed to oem profile keycaps from previous boards

[mental hemlock]

i feel the same way as you lol, not sure what type of keycaps i got on my board but the smaller keycaps are appealing to me

are you rocking any blank keycaps now and if so how do you like them

[steep minnow]

not on my wooting but i have blanks on my moonlander and i like them, never been one to look at the board while i type

[mental hemlock]

Haha bro I learned to touch type with blanks lol

Can you show me a picture?

[spark beacon]

Does any type of modding compromise the warranty?

[mental hemlock]

Ask in general @spark beacon

[dark saddle]

Lubing the switches violates the warranty

😛

[shell geode]

I believe that if you mod something and it no longer works, you've voided that warranty. And if you re-lube the switches, that warranty is also gone. But if it's as simple as case swapping, as Wooting has released guide videos on it, you should be fine.

[dark saddle]

Actually, at least in the US, modifying a product cannot void the Warranty

One of the weird cases of the US warranty system being better than the EU

The rare case, because in all other aspects the EU Warranties are 10x better

[mental hemlock]

In what way?

[spark beacon]

Seems intuitive, Thank you mate!

[shell geode]

I don't remember if Wooting's video on re-lubing the switches has a disclaimer in it though, it probably does

[spark beacon]

Yeah Mkilbride just said lubing switches violates the warranty

[dark saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-joke-son-gif-22148914

[mental hemlock]

Can’t trust a guy that can’t spell milk

[shadow phoenix]

Dumb question but how do I know if I’m using too much foam?

[mental hemlock]

Where are you using it

[shadow phoenix]

Okay yeah I can’t even catch the thread near the port

Taking the top piece off

[shadow phoenix]

that took way too much effort

[shell geode]

Wait until you try Sorbothane

[shadow phoenix]

are you using the wooting foam with it?

[mental hemlock]

That foam is too thin

Don’t know how you’re having issues lol

[shadow phoenix]

I was starting to have to push down to much to even find the thread

Didn’t wanna risk anything

[shell geode]

Nope, the Sorbothane is like 1/4" thick so it's my standalone case foam

[shadow phoenix]

I see

I really wanna have a go at lubing too but I’m content so far

[shell geode]

You should get some zipfit from Target, or go back to the Wooting foam and use just the bigger layer

[shadow phoenix]

Soon TM

Yeah

I’m using both the wooting foam and the foam I found but might do that

[unkempt kernel]

I just got my full size and regret not getting the wrist rest. Does anyone recommend any you can get off amazon that fit well with the keyboard? I don't want to pay duties and have to wait so long again

[errant ledge]

Spray-painted 60HE case :)

[night folio]

nice! what keycaps?