since it's the same chip with more cache it won't make a difference at all for some parts so it's just less likely to be worth it even after a decade
#đâtech
ashen spindle
cursive summit
chrome estuary
Ah lovely. A chip for a card you'll never be able to buy
halcyon moss
i have an 5700xt
ashen spindle
I'll take that too if you dont want it anymore
crimson wigeon
I'll take it, definitely wouldn't mine on it!
halcyon moss
give me a 6700xt and its yours :p
pale sigil
shadow minnow
PogChamp
It a great mouse
Use it as daily driver for like two years now, or one and a half
Once thought it was failing but was sth strange, works now
I also had RGB flickering and stuff
empty wren
Since this wireless could see why it has issue
empty wren
Oh
shadow minnow
But then next day it worked and since then works fine
empty wren
Well good
shadow minnow
Like I said I have the none wireless. Version cc
Wait what? Box says it wireless and pretty sure g703 only has wireless version. Or?
But imo perfectly fine using it wirelessly, it great
empty wren
But imo perfectly fine using it wirelessly, it great
INB4 battery dies and slowly degrades
shadow minnow
Well had it for long
And still battery lasts so so long
Usually weeks
Idle battery consumption is really low so it Pog
empty wren
Do you use lighting?
shadow minnow
Also you can use wireless charging or mod QI one to charge it daily then no way battery days
shadow minnow
Do you use lighting?
Wdym?
shadow minnow
Oh I do
But it auto turns off If mouse isnât moved for a few minutes
Yet it lasts long
empty wren
Guessing non Bluetooth?
shadow minnow
Guessing non Bluetooth?
Yeah uses their proprietary thing. Itâs fast, 1ms. And also consumption is few ma only. Forgot how many tbh
empty wren
Right okay
pale sigil
You had g403 or got one now?
I have a g403 now
The g703 is basically a refresh of the g403 wireless
shadow minnow
Honestly imo wireless mouses really worth it. Nice for kb but not that useful. But for mouse itâs great
pale sigil
Ik hence getting it xD
empty wren
People can play on couch with wireless keyboard or that cyberboard just looks nicer without it
shadow minnow
Ik hence getting it xD
Yeah imo worth it decision. It lasts surprisingly long
empty wren
Wouldn't mind a wireless keyboard that wasn't poo
Maybe Razer will come out with one later
shadow minnow
The extra cost ain't worth it
Yeah. Honestly in case you already had it full price again wouldnât be worth it. But price difference would be imo
empty wren
But it's the same price as the wired now
Well nice for the option or is it on sale?
empty wren
Yeah. Honestly in case you already had it full price again wouldnât be worth it....
Logitech did justify a high price supposedly with the gpro x superlight
So many people bought it
neat oriole
Wireless keyboards are kind of a security risk
pale sigil
Well nice for the option or is it on sale?
Sale
neat oriole
Bluetooth keyboards arenât even encrypted half the time
Plus itâs not like you move your keyboard around, so being wireless doesnât make it functionally better
empty wren
Some people hate wires
neat oriole
Unless you sit extremely far away from your PC
shadow minnow
Plus itâs not like you move your keyboard around, so being wireless doesnât make...
Eh some do. I did for some time too with both kb and moused. Mouse being wireless made it quite a bit easier ngl
neat oriole
When I mean move around I mean move around like a mouse
If youâre just like adjusting the position of your keyboard that doesnât really benefit from being wireless
shadow minnow
Kinda but yeah definitely not as much as mouse
twin obsidian
What if your keyboard had a mouse sensor
there are some with trackballs and such
empty wren
Oh okay
twin obsidian
https://youtu.be/IUJPSeYSg7k
so expensive
wheat plume
yeah...
I hate how he just smacked the PC onto the floor when he was turning it to show the logo on the side
reef patrol
Its pro level stuff. It costs a fortune.
reef tundra
Price is irrelevant, professional hardware is expected to just work.
reef patrol
It does work though?
reef tundra
đ It better be
crisp granite
MY PC IS HUMMING
empty wren
I hate how he just smacked the PC onto the floor when he was turning it to show ...
Lana remember who you are watching
reef tundra
Companies are willing to pay for contracts costing tens of thousands of dollars to just have the equipment work. Call a number and someone should come to fix any problem it might be.
empty wren
I thought many of them rent it with insurance
pale sigil
My cousins confirmed my eyes are fucked
I asked him to play some games and tell me if it's. Smooth to. Him
He was it's buttery
60fps just feels dogshit to me I guess
ashen spindle
are you sure he's not used to 60hz and thus cant see it?
reef tundra
They just havent seen the light yet
ashen spindle
well hard to say, after all you did show us some videos where we could see the issue sometimes
anyway in other news https://twitter.com/AYANEO__/status/1474206290696032258
basically just a confirmation on CES they will announce rembrandt during amd keynote
empty wren
Looks fatter
empty wren
Still looks a bit bigger though
empty wren
Yeah that too
reef patrol
Oh it's slightly different
One is right handed, the other is not molded for either hand.
reef tundra
One is clean, the other is not
shadow minnow
Not really cleanness
Finger oil
Canât get rid of that by cleaning
Looks same on ABS keycaps
shadow minnow
Well sure but talking about reflections from top
shadow minnow
Yeah
reef tundra
More polishedđ§
pale sigil
@reef tundraits like 3 or 4 years old
shadow minnow
Callum now has the same kb and daily drives the same mouse.
Just waiting for him to get AirPods Pro 
cursive summit
They killed MSI, decimated Gigabyte, then turned to Acer
Who's next on the chopping block? 
pale sigil
BRUH a logitech has to be charged every 48 hours?
chrome estuary
my mx ergo doesn't
cursive summit
BRUH a logitech has to be charged every 48 hours?
Imagine owning a wireless mouse
pale sigil
Wow RGB tanks it i see
cursive summit
If cable gets boring, ditch it and go wireless
Honestly very good and comfy mouse
chrome estuary
I have the ornata v2 keyboard and I love it
chrome estuary
I also use a Logitech MX ergo for everything
pale sigil
well not literally
reef tundra
I also use a Logitech MX ergo for *everything*
Everything
chrome estuary
everything
pale sigil
At 65% battery the following
With RGB on 1000 polling rate = 22 hours
With RGB off 1000 polling rate = 39 hours
With RGB off and 125 polling rate = 68 hours
With RBG on and 125 polling rate = 29 hours
true quest
tfw yt nor twatch notify you about nasa streaming the telescope launch on your day off
ashen spindle
125 polling tf
might as well say you get longer battery life by turning your mouse off
pale sigil
might as well say you get longer battery life by turning your mouse off
i was doing it out of curiosity
ashen spindle
oh so you just looked it up and didn't use it that long lmao
pale sigil
oh so you just looked it up and didn't use it that long lmao
What? no im using it now
all them numbers are from my own testing
ashen spindle
yes thats what I meant, you didnt actually use it for 60 hours at 125hz lmao
pale sigil
ahaha nooo
sorry
Pretty fucking bad ngl
G403 lasts months with a near idential sensor but it also supports up to 3000mah
idk why logitech used such a bad battery?
G4305 is smaller
and can use a much larger battery
its prob cos of weight freaks
more plastic than battery
seems it can be upgraded
reef patrol
To be fair - 22 hours is a full day. These mice are expected to be charged at end of day, with the lower weight as selling point.
reef tundra
nah, its a feature. dw
empty wren
it doesn;t update
Retardo Hub
empty wren
What happened to them
pale sigil
just kept vanishing
pale sigil
its been a year
empty wren
its been a year
Still in the server?
empty wren
Ah
reef tundra
And how accurate is the approximation?
true quest
+/- 104 hours
empty wren
<:thonk:568526682110296066> And how accurate is the approximation?
Deez nutz
empty wren
Surely not that far off
Would be easy for them to use the ghub numbers into the graphs or statistics
After all it is just a mouse
reef tundra
Gambling laws hurt the bottom line. Fortunately, we found a legal loophole
Innovation of the free market have come to save the day
young pecan
we like money
"Mr Krabs, why did you make a 2nd store right next to the first one?"
"Money!"
"But what was your motivation for doing this?"
"I like money!"
reef tundra
In the famous words of the Apple investor report:
The Company is subject to complex and changing laws and regulations worldwide, which exposes the Company to
potential liabilities, increased costs and other adverse effects on the Companyâs business.
old marlin
@pale sigil the sensor in the G403 is just inefficient as fuck, the g703 hero does like 3-4 times the runtime on the same size of battery
crimson wigeon
Did someone shuffle the channels again
crimson wigeon
Pretty sure unless I'm tripping
earnest jay
Game was below tech.
old marlin
tbh
you can;t blame mods for shit like this
discord still has no feature to lock channels
besides removing your right to do so
reef tundra
Thanks Obama
shadow minnow
Did someone shuffle the channels again
Yes
The case is currently under inverstigation, hope the accountable people are gonna face consequences of their actions
wheat plume
young pecan
https://nft.gamestop.com/
Ngl tho, I do love NFTs.
A better scamming tool to use on jackasses with too much money has never been invented.
It's just so fucking braindead to make an NFT.
Like...
Literally use a Perlin noise library for javascript and randomize a color layer, each one will be unique, sell higher activity ones for more.
Braindead NFT might take 2 days to make and test.
Maybe an afternoon to mass upload.
And it's not like you can't force artificial scarcity to push the price on some NFTs.
Part of me understands why Ubisoft wants it so fucking much.
But fuck those dudes.
reef tundra
Setup multiple wallets and trade between them a lot.
young pecan
You don't even need to do that.
Have your floor price at .05 Eth and take royalties from trades on Opensea.
And once you establish you set your floor price for 'new' NFTs to .1 Eth.
Literally braindead money, it's possibly the single easiest way to make tax free income.
Look at this.
What the fuck? This sold for 1.8 Ethereum. SEVEN THOUSAND US DOLLARS. ._.
This.
crimson wigeon
The question is, how many of those transfers are real and not just people trading amongst friends to make it look like there's value
young pecan
Doesn't really matter, does it?
Let's say you spent 2 days and a bunch of bullshit transfer Eth, assume 3 people buy NFTs for maybe 1.5 Eth each, you just spent 2 days and maybe a few dozen TX fees on the fuckin' Polygon network (kek) to make over 10 grand.
At that little effort it doesn't really matter how few of them sell, eh? So long as you make enough cash to justify 2 days of easy code work then it's green, no?
old marlin
What the fuck? This sold for 1.8 Ethereum. SEVEN THOUSAND US DOLLARS. ._.
even worse
young pecan
even worse
Lmfao
young pecan
Oh this is only a recent buy, my dude.
Some of these fuckin' things are pushing 20k each.
30k each.
old marlin
I mean
young pecan
Occasionally, rarely, they can even do upward of 250k each.
old marlin
even the fucking shitty monkey family usually at least looks better than this
young pecan
Yes, yes it is.
young pecan
Never underestimate the human capability for idiocy.
crimson wigeon
Yeah, a lot of these NFTs are butt ugly and are lazily generated with only a few different parts
BuT iT's UnIqUe
crimson wigeon
Uniquely shit
young pecan
Nah, there's some interesting use there.
young pecan
Problem is you'd need an ecosystem that gives them real value.
young pecan
That doesn't exist, it just doesn't.
young pecan
...
empty wren
Problem is you'd need an ecosystem that gives them real value.
Ponzi nft game schemes
reef tundra
Can we know the actual change of ownership has occurred in the listed price.
crimson wigeon
SMIRK AND CHALKBOARD! Both super rare traits!! OMG GOTTA HAVE IT!!!!
young pecan
<:angry_noot:916358225111187476> Can we know the actual change of ownership has...
Yee.
young pecan
someone paid 8.8 ETH for that
old marlin
but I doubt the creator would "buy" it from himself for 30k USD and then list it for 300k
with a single listed sale
young pecan
See, most of the time what happens is they'll airdrop a bunch of NFTs and some rares.
From there FOMO takes over.
reef tundra
The last one left holding the bag pays for it all
old marlin
unsure why people even list them at stuff like 88 ETH
young pecan
Because they fucking sell, my guy.
old marlin
besides just hoping some random hype hits
empty wren
Just bid a bit then go offline to screenshot
young pecan
People literally will pay 88 Eth for that.
crimson wigeon
Unique one of a kind! Sooner or later it'll be usable in the metaverse too!!!!
young pecan
not just any random shit
Literally random shit.
Look, look.
I'll go find an example.
old marlin
yea but no price history
young pecan
Literally 50 Eth.
reef tundra
Technically you also dont really own anything. Since it is bound to the wallet, not you
young pecan
old marlin
and not just a link to it
empty wren
Time to Blockchain entire Internet
memory of myself
reef tundra
Many have come to discover they actually bought a link to hopefully the image. Host goes down, changes domain and well image goes bye bye. The links are practically permanent once commited and statically linked.
crimson wigeon
True, although some seem to know about that and do IPFS links instead that theoretically are more resilient
reef tundra
Only way to make it work without making a new nft is making the link target work again
old marlin
True, although some seem to know about that and do IPFS links instead that theor...
doesn't hinder the creator of the NFT to change every image to "I am stupid and paid too much money for this worthless link" in comic sans
crimson wigeon
Well whoever got suckered into owning such an image deserves it
old marlin
you can directly write the image data in the blockchain
is more expensive though
still stupid concept
reef tundra
Only use one could technically use that for is being a horribly computationally expensive and slow database
Hmm
What if blockchain is just a worse implementation of git
old marlin
It is just a database
young pecan
There's defo use for NFTs, but the problem is the use requires real supported technologies that're actually used.
Like if you had a real videogame that allowed the earning and use of NFTs with a capped price to them, cheaper than MTX in current games, then I'd consider it an interesting experiment.
Issue there is that the game doesn't exist, the underlaying tech isn't fast enough or resilient enough, and nobody is putting development or compute into the tech required.
Theoretically NFTs good, practically (with current tech) NFTs bad.
old marlin
Nothing new though
There are games that log EVERY piece of currency
From drop to item shop
No matter what
crimson wigeon
What you telling me you can do such things without a blockchain?!?!
reef tundra
The only practical uses seem to go around those pesky government restrictions for all your crippling gambling addiction needs.
empty wren
gambling in China and India
reef tundra
When the CPC/CCP bans slot machines
pale sigil
Ngl tho, I do love NFTs.
Ofc you do my special snowflake
pale sigil
<@!171594634605232128> the sensor in the G403 is just inefficient as fuck, the g...
Aren't they basically the same sensor (g305)
old marlin
No
G403 wireless is a 3366
G305 is a hero
Entirely different thing
There are some variations between hero models
But that is mainly surface compatability and max dpi
So probably just firmware
young pecan
Ofc you do my special snowflake
C'mon, they're such a perfect scam tool.
And uber rich asshats? Those are everywhere, I'm fine smacking them around a little.
Who other than an uber rich moron is paying house money for the link to a picture of a monkey?
young pecan
Actually tbh I think the monkey NFTs actually do have legitimate use.
Basically the more you have the more levels of club you're invited to.
Anybody with 5 mil worth of fucking monkey NFTs is either rich and thus a good connection to have and exploit, or they have power and are thus a good connection to exploit.
old marlin
Lol
young pecan
ashen spindle
or is an average californian who cant pay rent
pale sigil
And not in the fun way
young pecan
M8, so wounded.
old marlin
But even then
I would not give up .1% of my income or net worth for images of funny monkeys
young pecan
Kinda tells you that if you're buying that much in NFTs it's probably going to be 1 of 2 kinds of people.
Either you're running on inherited money or luck money, or you're actually insanely rich and you may as well try everything since you're well beyond everybody else already.
And c'mon, if you're part of the first group I think there's decent odds you're a fuckin' dumbass.
old marlin
"odds"
ashen spindle
https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1475837599764090882 mhh soon we will have cache sizes big enough to put modern distros into the cpu directly
ashen spindle
ram disk is for amateurs, cache disk is the new hot shit
pale sigil
Damn
old marlin
Just to flex
young pecan
Wait so what configuration gives you 1.5gb L3?
old marlin
Develop a phone onscreen keyboard that doesn't suck 
ashen spindle
2 socket milan-x
young pecan
Ah.
pale sigil
I also read something about discovering a way to change how cpus are made
Pretty good times
ashen spindle
yeye thats 10+ years in the future tech if at all
young pecan
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/researchers-develop-intelligent-transistors-us...
So what's this to do with? All I really know is it's more advanced transistors using better mats and they're apparently weirdly interconnecty kinda like human neurons.
ashen spindle
eh, university tech will get used sparringly for small things and not really for high end cpus or similar or at least not in a relevant matter
the tech is cool but the headline is very clickbaity
reef patrol
What in the actual fuck. Onedrive just showed me my "memories".
Bitch you're a storage drive, not a memories album. Fuck off.
old marlin
reef tundra
What in the actual fuck. Onedrive just showed me my "memories".
Bitch you're a ...
Mansen will remember this
wheat plume
What in the actual fuck. Onedrive just showed me my "memories".
Bitch you're a ...
Google photos does that too in the app and you can't turn it off
reef patrol
I expect as much from google PHOTOS. I did not expect a fucking cloud harddrive app to do that.
REMEMBER WHEN YOU MADE BUDGET_2021.XLS? BOY WAS THAT A TIME
wheat plume
:')
Do you remember when you made document.docx that contains nothing?? Damn, life was fun back then
wheat plume
O.o
ashen spindle
their press conference was not even a CES thing even before this, that was their own thing that just happens to be during ces times đ
young pecan
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-introduce-radeon-super-resolution-rsr-technol...
We thinking 6900XT might actually break the 3090 in speed?
ashen spindle
no it's literally just their version of nvidias image sharpening
thick elk
and so the saga of my broken middle click continues, for RMA purposes I had to cut the usb cable, however I have everything I need to make a replacement cable.
Ordered a replacement switch as well. (kailh Mute) I thought the original thing would have been rated for 100k - 300k clicks but it was actually 1m which is not that bad for such a button.
Problem is just that you essentially press it at an angle and because they chose a relatively high 9.5mm one that made things worse.
So not bad to end up with two mice in the end after an RMA and a bit of work.
Just have to wait for the switch to arive.
thick elk
Any better suggestions for 6.2x6.2x9.5 switches that are readily available
thick elk
the original was ttc, but searcing on ali I only found kailh mute or nondescript 100k click rated
thick elk
true, but if your rating is 30 times lower, that could tell you something about them being crap right?
old marlin
No
Omron 20M lasts longer in a mouse than Omron 50M or 70M
Just because the higher durability ones were made for higher mechanical durability
And close the contacts softer
Which worsens the electrical durability
Which matters when that is the failing point
Cause you run your switches at 3 or less volt
Instead of 30 or more
thick elk
yes but I am looking at something like this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32901668929.html
Vs
this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001922542148.html
old marlin
thick elk
Never tried kailh mute, if they are crap I could always try again.
golden girder
Some thermal images of my W1 which I use for testing:
The hot spot is the voltage regulation which converts the 5V from USB to the 3.3V of the board. The MCU is the little heat spot to the right.
reef patrol
Fancy equipment.
reef tundra
Yea, voltage regulators pretty much just burn the excess voltage.
Great for low power application 
golden girder
Haven't looked at the newer Lekker PCB yet.
So with a better voltage regulation the Wooting would may be in spec with the USB power draw.
reef tundra
I wonder if the LEDs are using 3.3V or 5V
golden girder
I think all the components use the 3.3V voltage rail.
golden girder
I wonder if the LEDs are using 3.3V or 5V
On the W1 the LED controller use 5V.
reef tundra
I was thinking, why not use the 5V instead. But then realised it wouldnt change much as the resistors will just burn it instead. 
golden girder
They can operate from 2.7 to 5.5V.
reef tundra
Modern microcontrollers are more picky in their voltage. But atmel is really generous with their voltage ranges
golden girder
Yeah, haven't looked closely to the voltage regulation because I'm not familiar with that stuff but if it really creates the 3.3V by shorting it it should not matter that much.
But by using 5V for the LED controller there is maybe more power left on the 3.3V line.
reef tundra
The amount of heat the voltage regulator will produce has P(heat) = (Uin - Uout) * I
Typical use is couple watt max
golden girder
But I is Imax right?
reef tundra
The current flowing
golden girder
But it will waste energy even when there is no load.
reef tundra
Ideal one, wouldnt. Real world ones do
Quiescent current its called, i think
Not much, the AMS1117(generic/jellybean voltage regulator) has this in the couple miliampere. Some other voltage regulators might be microamperes
fair gull
so i got a fethead phantom today for inline mic level boosting
now i can actually record what i hear 24/7 in my room
reef tundra
pale sigil
My ears
wheat plume
đ¤
fair gull
welcome to my room
cursive summit
crisp granite
yeah
ngl
I need an MrPl face on my fuckin AIO
never knew I would
but now I do
thanks Cal
reef tundra
Big brother is watching
crisp granite
Big brother is watching
pale sigil
crisp granite
where's the full photo?
there's supposed to be a bloke in a mud covered recreational vehicle
reef tundra
wheat plume
I approve :')
reef tundra
cursive summit
When scammers don't know how tech works
old marlin
better than this
reef tundra
Subject
reef patrol
Time for a new monitor. The Lenovo G34W-10 seems pretty good.
cursive summit
LG's cheaper than that, and better
reef patrol
Got it for 450⏠which is the cheapest model I could find with this feature set.
What model are you referring to?
cursive summit
What exact features you need, USB-C?
reef patrol
34" UW, 1440P, affordable, curved?, proper freesync that can be used on gsync. đ
crimson wigeon
Get one of them Acers, heard they're smoking good
cursive summit
Does it really have to be 34"
Like anything but Lenovo
Which probably will be an LG panel anyways
Support the Koreans, not the Chinese
ashen spindle
then tell the koreans to make something I can use as an upgrade after years instead of still having to wait
cursive summit
https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/electriq-34-wqhd-qled-hdr-144hz-curved-monitor-eiq-34suwd144fshq/version.asp dunno what company this is
Heh, Australian
reef patrol
Support the Koreans, not the Chinese <:lul:576475280303063096>
I'm broke, bish. I don't care about doing the right thing đ
cursive summit
Well shit neither am I rich at all
Bought the cheapest 32" 1440p 165Hz I could find
LG's still as it happens one of the cheapest and best
reef patrol
đ¤
cursive summit
What the fuck is "external GeForce GPUs"
That sounds like "We just slapped Thunderbolt on it"
reef patrol
I mean... it is đ
crimson wigeon
What if it's not
crimson wigeon
Just the one graphic
reef patrol
đ¤
cursive summit
Afaik it's just x4 for Thunderbolt?
old marlin
yes
cursive summit
Why tf am I being autocorrected from Thunderbolt to Thundebolt
Fuck stop autocorrecting
WINDOWS
reef patrol
xD
old marlin
isn't there pcie gen 4 TB already?
cursive summit
TB4 has been a thing for at least a year now
cursive summit
And other than having far less latency
old marlin
for the same bandwidth
cursive summit
It's not that different from TB3
old marlin
as pcie gen 3x8
old marlin
cursive summit
Therefore performance is a lot improved
I think they gave TB4 either faster PCIe protocol or more lanes
shadow minnow
But the latency is far smaller
Well nontheless itâs still more like 3x4, so two thunderbolts would be 3x8 when it comes to bandwidth
old marlin
Well nontheless itâs still more like 3x4, so two thunderbolts would be 3x8 when ...
4x4 is about as fast as 3x8
shadow minnow
Itâs not really 4x4 if it has same bandwidth
cursive summit
Throughput doubled
Iirc TB3 was same as "2 lanes"
TB4 became "4 lanes"
If you can call it that
shadow minnow
Yeah but it could operate in 4 lanes mode too afaik, TB3
Just wasnât defined by spec
cursive summit
Dunno I haven't done too much research on the topic
But I love TB and I'd never get an ultrabook without that port
Hell any laptop imo is obligatory to get TB port in some capacity
shadow minnow
Yeah 32gbps is 3x4
shadow minnow
Hell any laptop imo is obligatory to get TB port in some capacity
True
cursive summit
It basically 2x's your normal computer life span
Cause what aging processors can't handle, a modern eGPU will
crimson wigeon
So when we getting eCPU then
cursive summit
When TB becomes an open standard and license free + the bandwidth becomes high enough to be lossless
fair gull
ecpu for my macbook when
fair gull
ive been looging at tb4 pcie cards today
thought about getting one for my server 
will prob get a normal usb 3.2 pcie card
or just 3.1
shadow minnow
ecpu for my macbook when
But why? It more powerful than 11900k
fair gull
more m1 chips per macbook = even more power
shadow minnow
I approve
fair gull
so 1 ecpu m1 plus internal m1 =better
shadow minnow
wheat plume
"Shift6mq is a modular, repairable (and somewhat Linux-friendly) smartphone from Germany - Liliputing" https://liliputing.com/2021/12/shift6mq-is-a-modular-repairable-and-somewhat-linux-friendly-smartphone-from-germany.html
I like this
A lot
halcyon moss
for those specs and price isn't fairphone a better option?
wheat plume
Fair phone has a better cpu??
fair gull
yes?
psure the perf edge isnt all too big
but at least it has 5g
and the gpu clocks faster
also iirc more addressable memory if so chosen
like 12gb max or smth
instead of 10 or 8
idk what max was on 845
even then fairphone has too small of a storage for me
pls dont tell me i have to switch to ihhhhh phone
for my next phone
wheat plume
Iiiiiiiiiiphone
That's how to say iphone in American
No matter how fast you speak
You need to say it that slowly and emphasis the i
fair gull
for real tho
ill prob buy another s10+
should mine ever shit the bed
i already used this phone to show people that they wont scratch the display with their fingernails by cutting paper on it with a boxcutter
rapid venture
Does anyone know the reason to why System uses this much?
halcyon moss
is it updating?
rapid venture
is it updating?
not what I know
ashen spindle
betting its a laptop or igpu
rapid venture
betting its a laptop or igpu
nope its not
fair gull
have u tried shutting it down while holding shift?
maybe smth is stuck in the background
rapid venture
have u tried shutting it down while holding shift?
Should I close the System while holding shift?
fair gull
no click the shutdown option while you hold shift
so your pc turns off completely
and yes holding shift is needed
golden girder
Ahh, a new X13 Flow??? đ
reef patrol
Oh gods no.
reef patrol
So much random shit is literally fixed with a reboot. Stop trying to be a server, Windows đ
ashen spindle
yeah I hope that stays for servers
wheat plume
Yeah .. that feature is mostly useless for desktop users
ashen spindle
in the contrary, it would be nice but introduces even more potential issues
reef patrol
Most of the reasons you'd update your BIOS as a consumer anyway is because shit is broken and needs a change in BIOS settings AND a power cycle to take effect. đ
ashen spindle
desktop bios are already a mess and I dont want them to have to add in even more quality of life stuff when it makes it even less likely to function properly
halcyon moss
Yeah .. that feature is mostly useless for desktop users
It should also be useless for servers tbh, good services can deal with outages. Not saying that is easy to. Make it that way though
worn wedge
any experience on water and dust resistance of the 2 HE? I'm mainly switching away from mechanical switches as I always kill them with water. Optical switches seem to be rather resilient in that regard (original Wooting 2 being out of stock EVERYWHERE sadly), but hall effect-switches seem to be more easily disturbed, according to what I found on the web?
ashen spindle
well unless you dunk them into a sink it's also hard for water to get into the case with it being closed and the keys acting like umbrellas a bit
but so far everyone who had spillings was able ot easily clean it from what I could see here
shadow minnow
Donât think there is really anything water could do to Lekker switches, probably even less than to opticals. Pcb is not waterproof but usually can be saved from water damage. 60HE however is supposed to be to some extend waterproof
Would be interesting if two HE got updated too to get more waterproof imo tbh.
worn wedge
I actually do look forward to put it into the dishwasher. Mechanical switches always survived that. Water spills while having them plugged in always made the kills đ
reef tundra
Could probably add come hydrophobic coating to the pcb
empty wren
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/samsung-set-to-announce-exynos-2200-w-amd-rdna-2-g...
Would be nice to see that with at least 5000mAh for around $1000
ashen spindle
I mean if you dry it out afterwards it's not going to kill anything
just not a great way to clean things usually
shadow minnow
^
worn wedge
well, gonna have a try on it. Thanx!
reef tundra
I also remember the sensors to be placed on the bottom side. Should help with fluid spilling issue
reef patrol
crimson wigeon
Oh no!
crimson wigeon
Brilliant
wheat plume
I wonder if RedStarOS or MacOS have the least amount of hardware compatibility?
MacOS only runs on very specific hardware configurations
Same with RedStarOS
shadow minnow
I mean you are able to run Hackintosh with quite a bit of stuff
Even though nvidia GPUs⌠you canât use
Though in few years that may change when apple may fully go to apple silicone and stops supporting last intel macs
Since they may no longer include X86 cpu support in the OS
wheat plume
You have to spook the hardware though
Spoof
Even not on Nvidia cards
To appear as one of the few AMD cards it knows about
wheat plume
I just learned about Sxmo
It's a tiling window manager
For phones......
You use the volume buttons and the power button to navigate it and select menu items
Like it or not, Arch Linux is going to start being used by more noobs. With the Steam Deck shipping with Arch Linux from the factory and Linus Tech Tips showcasing Manjaro (Arch with some incompatibility sprinkles on top) this is even more certain
Very very true
shadow minnow
Hmm canât figure out where to enable port forwarding on my router
wheat plume
What router?
wheat plume
Hmm
shadow minnow
Guess I am gonna contact wifi provider support tomorrow
Trying to test mc server to connect from elsewhere. Dynamic dns seems to be working but without port forwarding it no work
wheat plume
On my router
My server machine is locked to a static local IP
That local IP is port forwarded to the Minecraft server default port
And then I have my ddns point to the public IP of the server
shadow minnow
For me I canât figure out how to port forward
wheat plume
Cause the router config is shit
shadow minnow
Yeah đŚ
golden girder
@pallid totem@fair gull USB 4 supports TB3 as an optional feature. While any hub and dock must support it, devices and hosts don't need to. Regardless, any device which supports TB need to get a vendor ID from Intel. Devices which support TB4 can also support USB 4 but they don't need to. Right now only TB4 is actually available but USB 4 isn't. So no, a device can support both or just one of them. Like it was in the past it's much likely that you don't have TB4 on AMD systems. While I assume AMD will support USB 4 natively at some point I would assume they don't support TB3.
Yes TB4 should be always 40 Gbit where that is optional for USB 4. But who knows, USB 4 is heavily delayed by now. So maybe Gen 3 will be required (for a host) when it comes out. đ
USB 4 is different than TB4. They use different wires and signal encoding, they only share the same plug. Even TB3 is tunneled when supported in USB 4.
ashen spindle
usb 4 news should hopefully come on the 4th with new laptop announcements
golden girder
I participated in a (USB 4) workshop from the USB IF a year ago, they told that USB 4 will come in spring this year. So maybe it will come next year. đ
ashen spindle
lol
well linux drivers more or less confirmed next gen mobile cpus from amd will have usb4
and we recently also had someoneone from intel accidently showing a picture of thunderbolt 5 testing
golden girder
Writing the driver should not be the problem. But creating the chips for them is. Maybe the chip crisis hit them hard.
ashen spindle
no I meant there were kernel commits found that explicitly state certain cpu IDs to support it, which usually only happens if a feature will actually end up in those chips
golden girder
It's likely for sure. But I would be still surprised if the support first comes integrated within a CPU and not as a dedicated chip.
ashen spindle
could be, dont know how much bigger the die space would be but I doubt it's so much more that they wouldn't put it on the cpu
also @fickle ore https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-showcases-pcie-5-0-ssds-reaching-13-7-gb-s-on-alder-lake-system-28-3-gb-s-in-pair here's some pcie5 ssd first looks for you đ
golden girder
could be, dont know how much bigger the die space would be but I doubt it's so m...
This isn't related to the die size. More like a prediction from how most thing were done in the past. A CPU is already very complex and it takes a long time to develop. So integrating something where no peripheral or hub / dock is available to test against is kind of prone to fail. So it's typically better to wait until you know for sure it will work well.
vagrant path
i'd almost get a 12th gen intel
compact fjord
Seen it before bit it is still great ^_^
pallid totem
<@!124987273866379264><@!130036426912825344> USB 4 supports TB3 as an optional f...
As far as I know, to be TB4 compliant, the device has to also support USB4. TB4 and USB4 also use the same protocol, any TB4 cable will work for USB4 and vice versa. Yes, I'm aware that TB3 support is optional. However, AMD has stated for the AM5 chipset that USB4 will be supported (and thus TB4), and that the 600 chipset will support USB4 and may support TB3.
And yes, I know TB4=USB4 is a misnomer, but USB4/TB4 is the first generation of these diverging peripheral technologies where you finally can use any cable with any device on any host that supports Somethingv4. (But watch them screw that up anyways... đ )
golden girder
@pallid totem Only because you can use the same cable it doesn't mean they are compatible. Where did you read that TB4 will be compliant with USB4. As far as I know this isn't true.
golden girder
@pallid totem I don't really believe that and assume they get it wrong. That would mean that the current TB4 devices would already support USB 4 too which isn't the case.
pallid totem
<@124987273866379264> I don't really believe that and assume they get it wrong. ...
If you want to disbelieve intel itself, that's up to you.
golden girder
As far as I know the protocol is ready and only the chips for USB 4 are delayed. By that there is no reason why USB 4 wouldn't work already with TB4.
pallid totem
I don't have any USB4/TB4 devices myself yet as I'm waiting for the AMD socket refresh, but I tend to take what I can get from the hardware manufacturers themselves, over what random people on the internet claim.
golden girder
@pallid totem You didn't quote anything from Intel itself. These are only tech news which are kind of old too. You can belive that you want, we will see who is right in the end.
pallid totem
Go look up the JHL8540 or JHL8340 host controller specs then.
Or the JHL8440 device controller. It's in the whitesheets.
golden girder
Of course I assume in the end there will be most likely solutions supporting both but I don't believe TB4 supports USB 4 all the time.
Especially because there is no current USB 4 device or host.
The Razer TB4 dock says nothing about USB 4 and is already available.
pallid totem
Okay. You do you then.
pale sigil
Not surprised
wheat plume
Me neither
pale sigil
Sucks tho
pale sigil
@wheat plume lies
pallid totem
Did you expect them not to make more money off you if they have the opportunity?
wheat plume
UK isn't in EU
So why offer roaming data
pale sigil
No but we are still in Europe ;)
wheat plume
True
ashen spindle
roaming itself makes no sense in any way
but as long as it's used somewhere they will use it everywhere
wheat plume
If I was traveling between here and America often
I'd get an extra sim card from a provider in America
So I just disable this sim while I'm there and disabled it again once I get back and use my regular sim again
ashen spindle
Well no need to wait for the 4th, this pretty much confirms USB4 is on the next gen amd cpus for laptops https://twitter.com/execufix/status/1476855162622910475?s=21
wheat plume
"Infinity fabric"
What
Why is the audio coprocessor only being used by the USB 3.1 ports?
ashen spindle
what are you talking about
anyway @golden girder so I guess at least the higher end amd laptops will feature usb4 directly from the cpu
wheat plume
Why do the Ethernet ports say Linux only?
ashen spindle
idk maybe drivers
wheat plume
PSP!
ashen spindle
?
wheat plume
Platform
Security
Processor
ashen spindle
are we just writing down everything on the blockout?
wheat plume
I'm barely awake
I saw that component had PSP as it's acronym and I just said it
ashen spindle
yes it's the same thing basically every amd cpu has had for the last decade
wheat plume
Did Intel remove that backdoor from their CPUs yet?
ashen spindle
what
wheat plume
The Intel management Engine
ashen spindle
what kind of conspiracy rabbit hole did you go down
wheat plume
A lot of security focused people disable that
pallid totem
Well, for the Zen3/3+ at least. This is probably for the 600 series chipset, not AM5.
reef patrol
Did Intel remove that backdoor from their CPUs yet?
Every time one vuln is found and patched another pops up basically đ
wheat plume
And so does Purism
pallid totem
A lot of people also think that disabling nginx version tagging makes your web server safe. đ
ashen spindle
Well, for the Zen3/3+ at least. This is probably for the 600 series chipset, not...
nope this is rembrandt aka ryzen 6000 aka next gen laptop chips
pallid totem
There's a bit of a conflict then, given that they say Zen 3 CPU right up there.
ashen spindle
no?
it's the zen3 cores, what else would it use
as for ME being a backdoor that is more or less paranoia of people because they dont like it being closed source info, same for PSP
something being potentially something does not automatically mean it works that way
pallid totem
Ryzen 6000 is Zen 4.
ashen spindle
nope, just like 4000 was zen 2 they are most likely going to use 6000 for the zen3/3+ mobile chip lineup
and 7000 for zen4
(final naming subject to change till announcement since they could name it however they want till it's announced)
golden girder
@pallid totem This is a mobile CPU... You can't compare that with a desktop CPU.
ashen spindle
ah no worries, naming can become quite confusing
golden girder
Who knows how AMD will name these. They changed it quiet often.
Ryzen 5000 on mobile was also a mix of Zen 2 and 3.
ashen spindle
yeah that was really annoying after the reason for skipping 4000 was to clean up the naming...
but it was obvious laptop makers forced them to change that so they dont look like older cpus are sold in newer laptops
cursive summit
ashen spindle
marketing crap as usual
golden girder
Sadly even the top tier AMD 5000 mobile CPUs didn't had PCIe Gen4 for all their lanes. Only for the internal graphics.
ashen spindle
given that laptops usually dont need as much bandwidth that was probably done for higher margins
golden girder
I would assume due to power...
ashen spindle
hm both possible I guess, was mostly thinking most laptop makers didn't want to make the more expensive lane routing
golden girder
I would expect the IO chip would be the same and so not influence the margin that much. But PCIe 4 need much more power. That's why you needed a fan on the older chipsets.
There are not much lanes anyway. So having the 4 Gen 4 lanes for the SSD would be nice.
ashen spindle
yeah, let's hope future laptops are not saving costs too much and we can get that at a decent price
cursive summit
I haven't heard of this until now
Rather recent news
GPT-3 is mega impressive, and we are already toppling that
scenic ruin
hey if I set a partition at the maximum disk space is that fine
reef patrol
Sure?
That is generally what most people do, unless they have a specific reason to split it into several partitions.
fair gull
imo theres 0 reasons for multiple partitions on 1 disk
i lied
theres 1 i just thought off
bitlocking
but i dont know many people using bitlocker
young pecan
hey if I set a partition at the maximum disk space is that fine
For SSDs in some cases you can take of 5% of the drive space for more health, that and bitlocker.
worn wedge
clearly multiple os partitions are a reason to do so
obtuse wave
mood: power to the Horde (I know it's not much but to this day I had single stick 8GB RAM at minimum frequency because I forgot to set it in BIOS)
@ashen spindle the second RAM stick worked just fine, thanks again for your reply and happy new year đ
ashen spindle
glad to hear and you too
young pecan
clearly multiple os partitions are a reason to do so
Dual booting is mostly useless, tbh.
Often times youâre better off just running a VM.
young pecan
@shadow minnow Forward to your PCs IP, enable static IP, disable firewall.
If it works under those conditions, start adding shit back.
shadow minnow
<@!590931863951114260> Forward to your PCs IP, enable static IP, disable firewal...
Thatâs kinda what o have done. Havenât completely enabled firewall but enabled the said port
young pecan
The static IP set correctly on the router side?
shadow minnow
The static IP set correctly on the router side?
Nope, used current pc ip but canât figure out how to setup static ip on this router
young pecan
Thatâd be why.
Set a static IP on the PC itself and forward the port to that specific address.
Or if you have a router with DMZ host that can cause problems because of stupid settings.
(Donât leave DMZ host on)
shadow minnow
it off atm
young pecan
Mmmm.
Tbh itâs probably some bad setup on either the router or firewall side.
Just be sure you have your port ranges checked. Port forwarding can sometimes be annoying like that.
Anywho, 5am brain sleeps now.
young pecan
Lmao
young pecan
DMZ host basically removes all security.
fair gull
tmw u have 2 routers
shadow minnow
<@!590931863951114260> Forward to your PCs IP, enable static IP, disable firewal...
Not work
fair gull
and 1 could eat the other for breakfast
young pecan
What itâs typically used for is to enable a security free disposable host machine thatâs often on itâs own subnet. Tertiary firewall, that kind of shit.
shadow minnow
are you trying to connect via your public ip or the local one
Ip goes to public, then router port forwarding is set to send it to local
young pecan
In that case use a TLD with an A and SRV record set.
Just bind the port to the TLD, bypass your ISP.
fair gull
will most likely also fail
shadow minnow
youre kinda fucked if your isp has DSLite running
Using ipv4
fair gull
so try ipv6
fair gull
many isps block that aswell ya
shadow minnow
so try ipv6
Donât think DDNS supports it
fair gull
they are really restrictive with port activity
young pecan
Cringe.
shadow minnow
Canât get one
fair gull
u know whats really cringe tho aeon
shadow minnow
Or well it would cost so much it would make no sense for me
fair gull
local link ipv6 assignment
fair gull
im glad i got it to work on my pi
for pihole
fe80::1111
and it works
sometimes
lol
young pecan
Ngl, Iâm fine with IPv6, but Cisco and their entire attempted implementation of it can go die.
fair gull
thats most routers tho
young pecan
They can go kick rocks.
young pecan
thats most routers tho
Not Ubiquiti. Ubiquiti does IPv6 in a not so cancer way. :)
shadow minnow
Hmm tried connecting using local ip and port but it still not work
Unless I use 0.0.0.0 on host computer
Connection just times out on mc
shadow minnow
Or localhost:<port>
Does work on host PC doesnât on another on the same network
fair gull
no shit
young pecan
Yes obviously.
One is the internal IP, the other you want is the PCs IPv4.
Why are you port forwarding if youâre trying to connect on the same network? Thatâs only required for external connections.
LAN =/= WAN
young pecan
Man is trying to build a MC server.
fair gull
lol
young pecan
Apparently doesnât know how IPs work.
fair gull
so heres a quick rundown
fair gull
127.0.0.1/localhost are whats known as loopback ips and connect to the pc they are used on aka itself
young pecan
Gateway is your router.
shadow minnow
So ip of the router?