#🔌│tech
reef tundra
Just an parasitic maggot infection, nothing too special
wheat plume
o lordy
shadow minnow
Quite surprised me
wheat plume
I don't like that the cables connect to the underside of the monitors
The cables are now bent at an angle cause they hit against the desk
And it's so hard to find where the port is when you cant see it
vagrant marsh
then why not getting a 90 degrees adapter?
or a flex connector
That center one is a flex connector
vagrant marsh
someone here that wanna buy a asus rog swift pg278qr for 300 euro? 😛
cursive summit
3 euros or bust
vagrant marsh
are you gotta collect it? i dont have the box for it any more
cursive summit
Sure
lethal wasp
pale sigil
Quick question
will an old hdmi cable have issues with 4k
as afaik you needed hdmi 2.0 for 4k60 right
reef tundra
Most likely
vagrant marsh
2.0 goes up to 4k30
reef tundra
You can always try and see whether it actually works.
reef patrol
There's your problem. You're using feet instead of cables.
vagrant marsh
reef tundra
Its an digital interface so it will work or it will not work. Maybe hdmi has some negotiation causing it to run at the highest possible rate. Maybe noise will be more severe and might stutter sometimes.
pale sigil
👍
Just ordering some stuff
lol
DP for my second monitor as its been using hdmi for a while now
HDMI for my TV since im sick of using a long ass cable
Extension so i dont have to reach behind the bastard
reef tundra
Then make sure they are HDMI certified cus HDMI likes their royalties
reef tundra
eh, its amazon. So if it aint working you can just refund it
reef tundra
It is an actual studied psychological effect. If I remember right.. if it goes faster than expected the user feel that it did not work (correctly). A lot of websites add artificial waiting period to make the user feel like they are getting the service they requested. Even though the request fully processed seconds ago.
Also ew C++
pale sigil
ye its deffo 60hz
the cable is allowing 60hz over 4k
i mean
How can I see if its 10bit
no
crimson wigeon
Advanced display settings
crimson wigeon
Ow that chroma subsampling or whatever it's called
pale sigil
i mean
my monitor is 8bit
should i be concerned
lol
it has hdr but i never use it
crimson wigeon
No unless it's "HDR"
wheat plume
same...
crimson wigeon
Very little supports 10bit output anyway
wheat plume
jank ass windows, yes
crimson wigeon
Meh why would you leave that awful software running in the background anyway
crimson wigeon
Steam preferred cause of Linux support for me
Yeah there are a ton but are there any I'd like 🤔
thick elk
GoG also exists?
pale sigil
stonks
thick elk
I like the effort Valve puts in the linux ecosystem, however running games itself I don't prefer steam's implementation over lutris.
reef patrol
Given how much Steam has fuxked up the cyberpunk experience so far I am amazed people still support them.
Savegames being deleted by cloud sync...when you're using a single PC account.
Patching failing silently leading you to download tens of gigabytes again.
No combo controls iirc.
pale sigil
Nu
wheat plume
Why does windows take like 1 minute to shut down sometime?
cursive nimbus
Depends what you have open
Steam takes a while especially, it checks your save files
Cyberpunk is just better on gog
pale sigil
just gonna say it, these are the worst headphones ive had the curse of trying https://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-Mobile/dp/B00SAYCXWG
couldn't belive how bad they were
vagrant marsh
rtx 3080Ti 20gb variant
reef tundra
make GPUs in stock again
vagrant marsh
remember when the 2000 series came out?
and nobody wanted them?
those were good times
old marlin
Well they made little sense
Somce the 2080 was pretty expensive
And the 1080ti was similarly fast in typical raster based rendering
But like
200$ cheaper
Prob
970 sold like hotcakes until it's memory lies got out
Yup
old marlin
Or request it from a retailer with your order number
I wonder how many of those get claimed by people working at reailers
reef tundra
not a lot, probably. It takes effort and you have to talk to someone
old marlin
Not if you work at a retailer
reef tundra
But that is even worse
reef patrol
Oh quit whining.
You don't have custom watercooling xD
Also - Load up GPU-Z and it should be there most likely.
pale sigil
You don't have custom watercooling xD
one day xD i will have you teach me senpai
reef patrol
Softtubing is easy as pie. Hardtubing requires a lot of practice, patience and a bit of innate skill 😄
Ain't got time for that.
hard thicket
https://i.imgur.com/TUHCs3s.png dram cache is kinda fun
ashen spindle
@misty saffron depends, what exactly
misty saffron
i have a List<string> object filled with.. strings
what would be the quickest way to get the total amount of word occurrences, given i don't have a separate list of all words?
i tried a slow way (the obvious one i thought of at the time) to separate the words out (.Where(!char.IsPunctuation).ToArray().Split(' ')) and it took ages
most likely because it had to copy everything
@ashen spindle
ashen spindle
define word occurences, is there always blank space and/or punctuation between words? and anything else is a valid word?
and then you want to get total ammount?>
first idea would be to go through each object, make a Regex that counts the spaces/punctuations in it and thus giving you number of words
should be pretty fast if that fulfils the definitions of words
you can use linq and be fast but the .toarray method is slowing it down
if you aren't familiar with RegEx I can prob help you out in a bit but am rather busy otherwise atm
wheat plume
https://youtu.be/bFRrOcOkoAA idk how to feel about gnome 40.....
I dont like the new overview.... you cant see all apps on all desktops anymore
misty saffron
define word occurences, is there always blank space and/or punctuation between w...
it is just normal sentences
and i want to count the word occurrences, not just words
i.e. if a word "the" appears, i need to know how much of "the" there is in all strings
wheat plume
:')
crimson wigeon
Eh, might try it again, wonder how hard it would be to integrate my sway&wlroots hacks into it
ashen spindle
go over each object in the list with null checks etc. use RegEx to split it (dont forget .tolower so it's not counting The and the as two seperate words) and add it to a dictionary with the word as the key and increase value by 1 @misty saffron should be pretty fast
misty saffron
used dictionary, thanks for that one
to split words i just did this however
var words = string.Concat(str.TakeWhile(x => !char.IsSymbol(x))).Split(' ').ToList();
apparently that is pretty fast
ashen spindle
I doubt it's faster than regex but should not be slow either
crimson wigeon
It might be even faster to iterate it directly through that iterator rather than put it into a list methinks
ashen spindle
depends on the size of your list
crimson wigeon
Yeah optimizer would probably take care of that
crimson wigeon
Dark magic probably
ashen spindle
if you have gigantic data sets prob worth looking at threading it but doesnt sounds like it's that big
ashen spindle
hm I mean that sounds like it might be worth it
not that familiar with c# that I can estimate how fast that would be though lol
misty saffron
is Dictionary thread-safe then?
ashen spindle
ConcurrentDictionary should be, haven't used it yet
but could also delegate that to a method that queues up the entries in a seperate thread while the other threads just rattle through and count, not too familiar with what to best do with threading yet
or instead of pure threads async/await Tasks might be the best here
misty saffron
i would assume some type has lock-based synchronization implemented
ashen spindle
yeah taht should be ConcurrentDictionary
misty saffron
so it would be as slow as storing the data is
ashen spindle
the one area I haven't touched at all in c# yet in regards to performance would be unsafe code, not sure if there would be potential performance gains
crimson wigeon
Unsafe? That's scary! If you want performance just rewrite it in Rust so you get great performance and great safety and no bugs!!
ashen spindle
misty saffron
i've always felt like rust is a language just for those who isn't familiar enough with native code yet
ashen spindle
idk havent had time to look into it, I do like the idea of not having to deal with "null" though lol
misty saffron
in my area of programming at least if you ever get a memory access violation exception you're doing something horribly wrong
ashen spindle
Uglier than a Windows backslash, odder than ===, more common than PHP, more unfortunate than CORS, more disappointing than Java generics, more inconsistent than XMLHttpRequest, more confusing than a C preprocessor, flakier than MongoDB, and more regrettable than UTF-16, the worst mistake in computer science was introduced in 1965. 
quote about NULL
crimson wigeon
But how else are you gonna represent something that's not there?
misty saffron
more confusing than a C preprocessor
i love how microsoft wants to get rid of macros
yet their constexpr support is fucking awful
if something more or less complex works on clang, expect it not to work on msvc
crimson wigeon
Well yeah isn't that why pretty much everything crossplatform doesn't even use MSVC for compilation
It's all Clang nowadays, or GCC
ashen spindle
yeah I think I'll stick with c# for now, maybe go into c++ next year but I'll prefer my higher level languages lol
crimson wigeon
Probably, but in my Linux experience GCC generates faster code, Clang compiles slightly faster 🤔 so I use Clang for devbuilds and GCC for release
misty saffron
not in terms of speed
but in terms of assembly it shits out
like what in the fuck is that garbage
crimson wigeon
Nonsense
misty saffron
favor speed, the gcc way
ashen spindle
holy shit I just had a realization
now I know why rtx 30 series doesn't have usb-c for Vr and so anymore
they can't fit it into their power budget
misty saffron
and not because fuck all used it?
ashen spindle
the only one that didnt use it after it came out was the index, granted that is a big one, but I'd imagine they would still offer it on FE models at least
misty saffron
actually apple uses thunderbolt for their monitors as well
ashen spindle
but I think it needs something above 50W for a fully powered one, and they obv have no headroom for it
how did I just now think of it
misty saffron
tell me about it, i plugged my thunderbolt cable into the gpu
cause no free usb-c ports on motherboard
monitors started flickering
ashen spindle
rip
crimson wigeon
Should have just added 2 more PCIE power pins then
ashen spindle
oh god, after the 12 pin nvidia now forces a pcie adapter card to be used with next gen, with more pins?
wouldnt put it past them tbh
aww discord preview sucks
just go outside at 3am and your system does 6000MHz ram ez
thick elk
Provided you have a rare and very expensive memory kit and are running on a 4700G or similar.
I am still waiting for the first person to do "ambient" overclocking outdoors during the antartic winter.
misty saffron
you guys don’t open your windows when playing games?
thick elk
I just let the temperature rise, because I hate sleeping in a cold room.
vagrant marsh
the year is 2041. memory has finally reached a threshold of over 6000mhz
thick elk
6000mhz or 12000 MT/s
I really wish they stopped using mhz wrongly for ddr memory.
I know everyone understands what you mean but still.
Just like Microsoft should stopped wrongly refering to MiB and GiB as MB and GB
though the later has to do with legacy and standardisation after use.
crimson wigeon
But the users might get confused!!!
thick elk
But they still get confused, why is my 1tb drive not 1tb for example
when in fact it is 1TB or 909GiB
crimson wigeon
True
fickle ore
crimson wigeon
Not enough extra buttons so no
thick elk
Not great with my grip style, in terms of middle finger placement, also not sure about the shape.
I stick to my roccat burst pro for now. Certainly not perfect, but for now it does enough right and is relatively comfortable.
does not get it
wheat plume
the, you know, MUST USED RIFLES....
pale sigil
i think the amount of smar devies connected to my router is prob causing issues
crimson wigeon
Isn't that why you set up a separate network for all your IoT crap
old marlin
Ig the model d is good at that price
Shape wise it is basically between an EC1 and EC2
So my phone keyboard is "fancy ass" 
And just always carry my pc to the kitchen while i wait on food in the oven
Sure
I don't wanna sit around getting bored though
Would much rather be active on discord or read a manga or something
Ok
What should i do then
While i wait on food getting done
I asled a specific question
And got a non-specific answer
Thanks
Also reaching someone via letter is a terrible idea
Fedex for example is entirely unable to deliver to me
As stated by their support
Next fedex station is 60km from me as well
Buying a flip phone is also useless
When you get no cellphone signal
Oh yea there are post offices and dhl stations etc
Just not fedex
Basically what i would have to do to make use of a flip phone
Using paypal 2fa via sms is a problem in my case
Too bad for you
Nah i get internet
Just no cellphone signal
You don't get cellphone signal with a dish
Especially if there is no cellphone signal to receive in the first place
If you wanna receive cellphone signal with a disch you need line of sight to the transmitter
Could be difficult if there is no transmitter
Also i can do other stuff
But getting out a book to read while waiting 15 minutes just interrupts reading
Nah thanks have enough of that
LTE is not cellphone signal
And am i supposed to use a usb ethernet OTG abomination to plug it into a phone
Which in your case would be a flip phone
LTE
Not allowed to meet up
I'll go in a discord call alter with my friend
otherwise I could also bore myself 
much better
ah nice
which one did you get
but beware of the screen
ah
and you blame me for using my only way to socialize besides at work while waiting on food to be done
good reason to judge people online
reef tundra
ok boomer
old marlin
you are the 2000 equivalent of an amish
just lemme get out my windows CE PDA to note that down
old marlin
used them a lot in middle school
also had a lamy
cartridges for them are easy af to find in germany
german ones are probably a better bet
big downfall of them iirc was that the grip area is slippery af
iirc I scuffed mine up with some random pair of scissors of a classmate within a week
zenith sonnet
Any tips on washing memory foam headphone earcups?
K702/K712 in this case
Last time I used a little soap in a bowl of luke warm water
Washing machine in a cloth bag is probably not good, eh?
Hand wash mode or something?
misty pier
I just handwash my earcups with warm water and soap
knead that whole thing like dough
pale sigil
High, no raytracing.
literaly makes no difference
what setting
my gpu usage is also insanely low
zenith sonnet
Might just go the 'buy a new pair' route, after a few years I feel that's fair
wheat plume
windows......you good?
zenith sonnet
@pale sigil
Prebably the same issue I have
I get a few more FPS, ~55-60, on a med/high mix on my VII
zenith sonnet
But on my rig, CP is neither CPU nor GPU limited
pale sigil
legit tempted to re install the game at this point
zenith sonnet
It's memory bandwidth limited 
pale sigil
i let it use all my memory
zenith sonnet
No joke
pale sigil
via the editor thing
zenith sonnet
Huh?
pale sigil
you can edit how much memory it uses
zenith sonnet
No
pale sigil
unless you mean gpu memory
wheat plume
anyone else not able to open settings or windows store?
zenith sonnet
What editor?
pale sigil
there is a file in cp2077 you can edit
zenith sonnet
You mean that one file they removed in 1.05 because it wasn't actually used?
zenith sonnet
Lol no, it's not
pale sigil
spent 833 quid and i cant even play a fucking game i want
zenith sonnet
Anyway, that file you mention was removed in 1.05
It was not actually used be the game, it was only used for early testing purposes
zenith sonnet
Game handles memory fully automatically
But it looks like you might actually be CPU limited, looking at 85% utilization there
For a weird reason
Also, 14 FPS 1% lows?
Something isn't right
pale sigil
Nothing is right about this game
zenith sonnet
You have a 5600X, right?
pale sigil
Mhmmm
zenith sonnet
What version of the game are you running?
pale sigil
Latest
zenith sonnet
1.06?
zenith sonnet
Did you patch the .exe at some point?
pale sigil
Lol
wheat plume
how fast is your ram? that matters a lot for this game
zenith sonnet
how fast is your ram? that matters a lot for this game
Yeah, no joke
But his performance is too low
zenith sonnet
@pale sigil Screenshot ingame video settings, please
reef tundra
Hmm, attach an accellerometer to the ram stick and throw it really hard to see how fast it goes.
reef tundra
Just do it, just in case
zenith sonnet
You GPU draws almost twice as much power in this game than my Radeon VII, lol
And you still get less FPS
pale sigil
gonna verify files too
zenith sonnet
Nvm, I don't see me finding that from the screenshot alone
zenith sonnet
That huge roundabout?
zenith sonnet
Peaks of 20% CPU on 16 cores, should roughly equal 55-60% on 6 cores
These are my settings
Seems like the best mix of visual quality and FPS
misty pier
cursive summit
Dunno I'm playing on all ultra 1080p
No FPS hiccups
Though there are some problems with light exposure
It's like you are facing the sun
zenith sonnet
still pre 60
Seriously, I'm memory bandwidth limited here
Just look at the my GPU power draw
It's not maxed out
Even though it shows 99%
zenith sonnet
This game is more fluid and pleasant to play at 50 FPS than BL2 at 140 FPS
So, there's that
zenith sonnet
What with?
You feel stuttering or something?
Definitely an issue, then
And it does not seem to be a game issue
Anyway, try and copy my settings and see what FPS you get
You should not see a visual difference
pale sigil
its not just stable
constantly dropping to 55
and stuttering ye
i copied your settings
zenith sonnet
Stuttering is weird, that's for sure
Seriously, the game is the most pleasant experience I had for a long while
And I have to play with 50-60FPS in the city
Can you show CPU graph in task manager or something?
zenith sonnet
You can see the game main thread bouncing between core 0 and 7, and Twitch running on core 11
All the other cores doing background tasks, such as citizen AI
FPS is super stable, actually
And sure, VRR helps keeping it smooth even at sub 60
zenith sonnet
@prisma crag Framerate and Frametime
It's actually a flat line
zenith sonnet
@pale sigil Please give task manager CPU graphs, though
halcyon moss
Have you restarted your pc? Does wonders still
pale sigil
@prisma crag ite so you want task manager cpu shit
while in cp77
oh damn
lol
wot
steam is using me gpu
zenith sonnet
Maxing out your CPU and only getting 50 FPS seems weird, tbh
zenith sonnet
Can you show the processes tab?
pale sigil
zenith sonnet
This is mine
@pale sigil So, CP uses 60% of your CPU, this is exactly what I expected, actually
But other processes use over 30% in the background?
That's the fucked up thing
zenith sonnet
pale sigil
zenith sonnet
Check this message, Callum
crimson wigeon
So much bloat!
zenith sonnet
At this point, I think the problem starts with Windows 😄
pale sigil
when most of the shit is required
lol
lad
most of it i cant disable tho
why is there never a simple way to control your hardware
zenith sonnet
I have 56 background, of which half is hardware drivers & software, and 90 from Windows
zenith sonnet
Well, let's be honest, the 3% CPU usage those background tasks cause suck, but they aren't the main issue here
@pale sigil
Sort the list my CPU usage, and start removing stuff from autostart you don't immediately need on boot
zenith sonnet
Anyway, 91% - 67% is still a quarter of your CPU occupied with background tasks
That's not normal, and needs sorting out
That may just be your ongoing issue
With poor benchmarks and everything else
zenith sonnet
@pale sigil I also recommend reinstalling Windows
And then making sure you don't install and have things running you don't actually need
crimson wigeon
Theoretically it can be repaired but since everything is so hidden away from you it's easier to just wipe it all away
pale sigil
everything i have
i need
the only bloat i have is MSI and Asus
most of what i have doesn't launch unless i say it
zenith sonnet
Epic using a ton of CPU is known, but Steam should sit at 0.1% when minimised...
pale sigil
Epic inever have open
that pic was just a rare thing
when i was checking bl3
i literally only have 3 startup programs
zenith sonnet
I have Twitch, GOG, Steam, Afterburner, Task Manager, G Hub, etc running
And I'm idling on 2% CPU usage
pale sigil
i mean
my cpu right is using nothing
clock speed wise
wot
i changed the profile
and im now usiong like 5-15%
zenith sonnet
zenith sonnet
The power reporting from Ryzen Master is quite accurate
zenith sonnet
I don't know if I can read out my current PSU
misty pier
i should buy one someday
never really have blackouts often where its necessary
so is there some power block you plug into to get power readings?
zenith sonnet
Yeah, I can sometimes go for years without a blackout
Only happens from storm damage to power lines, tbh
But that's rare
misty pier
only time we get power outages if a hurricane pulls through and knocks down a few trees onto power lines
crisp granite
noice
pale sigil
btw
CP77 is the only issue i have
every other game is pretty damn good
Though the under performing a little does concern me in benchmarks
misty pier
praise the machine gods that it runs
crisp granite
praise the almighty <insert object here> that we have something that can finally run metro exodus with RTX at a playable frame rate
finally
zenith sonnet
@pale sigil Take the time to do a clean install
misty pier
plus 7% tax 
misty pier
people get horny seeing big numbers
misty pier
i paid $620 for my 2070S with tax and shipping
misty pier
i still regret paying extra for 2-day shipping on newegg
crisp granite
it's great
I'm doing it
the light reflections off of puddles on the streets are insane
I literally stared at it for an hour
wheat plume
gaming + sleeping corner in the back of a truck
monitor attached to an arm attached to the ceiling
true quest
any weefee
wheat plume
wefeh
wheat plume
Is it ok to leave my computer plugged in over night or should I turn off the power at the plug?
Cause I usually turn off the plug
crimson wigeon
Do what you like, personally I keep my computer on all the time
hard thicket
does your appartment/house have overvoltage protection like from lightings ?
cause my old rig fried because of that once
wheat plume
But will an extension plug provide enough power for the computer?
I once used one with my old computer and it shut off
hard thicket
a decent one yet
wheat plume
Lel
hard thicket
a cheap one no idea
wheat plume
Yeh....
hard thicket
i wouldn't cheap out there
a friend of mines TV fried because a lightning hit the neighbour house
wheat plume
Do what you like, personally I keep my computer on all the time
Suspended?
crimson wigeon
On
hard thicket
so a lot of shit can happen
wheat plume
Hmm
After a while
My computer automatically suspends
On linux and windows it happens
IDK what makes that happen
wheat plume
I guess linux too
Or at least this desktop
hard thicket
jesus
wheat plume
Woah
hard thicket
yeah one hit like 15m next to me once
fucking felt the shockwave
couldn't hear a thing for an hour straight
wheat plume
Do you think I'd be fine leaving my computer suspended overnight then?
hard thicket
no issues
hard thicket
actually it's better to never turn it off
wheat plume
Why so?
hard thicket
for reliability reasons
wheat plume
O?
hard thicket
but many don't do that due to noise/ power usage and so on
my NAS and workstation runs 24/7
wheat plume
My pc goes into sort of a powered off state after a while
The fans shut off
No video output
Untill I press a key or click the mouse then the fans speed up again and the monitors display the lock screen
wheat plume
It's interesting
I did some basic testing before
I left it unlocked but left it idle so it went into that state
About two hours later I went back and it was still unlocked when I woke it back up
Thought it would be on the lock screen
hard thicket
you can also set it to just turning off the display
without going to sleep eventually
incase you like to leave your pc doing stuf overnight
as someone that leave the pc often run overnight the standy function caused some huge issues in the past
Even more did the automatic windows update bullshit 
loosing hour and days of work because of it
wheat plume
Oh
It'll mostly be booted into linux xd
hard thicket
nothing to worry then 
wheat plume
Hehe
wheat plume
New year, new distro?
Nah
Still loving ArcoLinux
reef patrol
😄
wheat plume
ArcoLinux is just amazing
It's plain Arch
But with love and attention to details and theme
thick elk
I just stick to plain arch, and have done so for a long time.
If you quickly need to set up something with a gui sure, but for things I run for longer periods of time I'd rather pick and choose myself.
wheat plume
I used ArcoLinuxD
It comes with a live session and in the installer you chose kernel, desktop, login manger, if you need proprietary drivers for gpu or not, and any additional software you wish
crimson wigeon
Is that another systemd component?
wheat plume
:')
It's called ArcoLinuxD cause it's got that big D energy
Jk
IDK why that letter is used
They also have ArcoLinuxB which is the same as D but the desktop and login manager arr already picked for you so you download the desktop iso you want
thick elk
but most of the steps it does are pretty trivial to just do, and rather know what is being done so I can add my own tweaks where needed.
It's not like I reinstall my distro every other year.
hard thicket
you can also use display fusion
and make the 21:9 aspect ratio in the middle
then you have two small additional spaces
for browser/discord and so on
last cave
@vagrant marsh Odyssey g9?
last cave
ah yeah... G9 has a deeper curve
last cave
deeper curve is probably good idea for such a longggg monitor at-least in games
I'm in the market for a new monitor too but can't decide what will be best for my setup
vagrant marsh
atm, im using it as a double screen cause my current graphics card cant handle the full res. but once i get that 3080, its gonna be full res. maybe then i will agree that it needs a deeper curve.
last cave
Yeah i almost had a 3080 but now waiting for 3080TI
vagrant marsh
i still got a monitor here that i can use as second monitor besides it. im in the process of selling it, but because it fell at one point, it has got a scratch in the middle of the screen. i gotten used to it, but it doesnt make selling it any easier 😛 so might as well keep it
last cave
i have a 34" ultrawide but it's old and the picture quality isn't the best
If anyone is in need of a new gaming headset these are getting rave reviews on youtube and i just ordered a pair: https://drop.com/buy/drop-sennheiser-pc38x-gaming-headset
last cave
that's weird because it showed the price to me before i made an account
vagrant marsh
maybe you were already logged in. or a preview showed it
yea, ur right. i ordered some t-shirts from gun god the other day. price was alright. and when i had to pick up the package, i had to pay 20 bucks to import rights. screw that. had send it back.
vagrant marsh
i think i can get as good as more locally
vagrant marsh
sennheiser pc38x
cursive summit
Just get the HD 6XX
vagrant marsh
wtf
last cave
@digital cliff something like the Sennheiser PC 373D
cursive summit
Yep both PC38X and HD 58X Jubilees aren't great
vagrant marsh
senheiser doesnt even show those headsets on their own page...
cursive summit
Cause it's a partnership thingy
vagrant marsh
lol
last cave
@cursive summit they are very good and microphone is excellent
@vagrant marsh because Sennheiser doesn't make gaming headsets anymore the company that did split from them and became independent
it's called epos audio now
cursive summit
I mean you are paying like 60 bucks less for worse headphones than the 6XX's
And Sennheiser do make gaming headsets
GSP thingies are their gaming line
Although yeah they are made by EPOS
Damn outsourcing
last cave
seinheiser no longer has any role with epos
vagrant marsh
if i look at taht 38x, it looks like a game one black
last cave
i guess epos were a subsidiary of sennheiser before
vagrant marsh
epos seems to be the store they sell it through
last cave
nope
wheat plume
that looks like a gaming headset that is trying to not look obnoxious
but it still looks obnoxious cause its all plastic
last cave
PC38X is a big upgrade from the GSP line
watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrF6c9ztyM
wheat plume
looks at my clouds 2 ahh, metal
vagrant marsh
the mad catz freq 5 was my only headphones that were made of metal. but that did also make them heavier
last cave
metal headphone is heavy lol
vagrant marsh
yup. but durable as heck
couldnt say that for the plastic they used for the earpads
became brittle and started to tear after only 6 months
last cave
pu earpads always will peel
PC38X has nice fabric
it my first time ever ordering from massdrop btw
I'm excited for them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNjO98dZUGQ
vagrant marsh
meh. its just a gimmick and then streamers will move on to the next thing in a week or so 😛
just like how htey are saying the wooting is the best keyboard for fortnite right now, in a month or so, maybe even logitech will have cooked up something thats similar and then streamers will say that will be the best thing
last cave
meh that's your opinion tbh 😛 i know it's not a gimmick.
it's literally the best gaming headset under $200 right now
vagrant marsh
im not saying its a bad headphone. its probably good.
last cave
sure you can use a more expensive headphone and a modmic but modmic sucks
i just prefer a headset than seperate mic when gaming
vagrant marsh
i got speakers, and a seperate microphone. a blue snowball. together with rtx voice you dont even hear my speakers
last cave
i don't like leaning over a desk microphone and they take up space
vagrant marsh
Leaning?
last cave
unless you have a microphone boom arm
last cave
I guess thats one that picks up your voice from a distance then
last cave
there are advantages of having a headset too
directional pinpointing being one
useful in multiplayer fps games
slender rain
The PC38X isn't even out yet?
vagrant marsh
my speakers can do that as well. in bf1, i can hear from which direction teh gunfire and footsteps are from
pale sigil
I use a snowball and just seeing your setup I feel sorry for anyone you voice with
vagrant marsh
what you mean?
vagrant marsh
not with rtx voice.
it seems to be doing quite a good job at only picking up my voice
last cave
what convinced me to buy the PC38X was it's really good mic quality for a headset
pale sigil
Meh I used mine with rtx voice too
At a distance
Sounds alright but you still sound distanced
And I wasn’t a fan so I bought a new arm
pale sigil
After 4 or so years using my snowball I want a mod mic tbh
last cave
as someone thats lives in europe i thought it was impossible for me to buy something from massdrop... turns out they do international shipping for like $4
pale sigil
A lot of the issues is import tax
Delivery and other stuff
Ye that’s not bad
But I don’t like taking headsets
last cave
i never heard a better headset mic tbh
pale sigil
Gaming headsets
last cave
maybe u would like this one
pale sigil
@last cave i already looked at it
also
you might be charged import fees etc
so be ready
ill admit
im surprised with the delivery
lol
but i will 100% get import fees
last cave
i calculated import tax to be like 15 euro or something
vagrant marsh
might still need to pay import
pale sigil
when it enters my country
last cave
and u can get $10 off that price
pale sigil
on a new account?
last cave
yeah
last cave
you've used Drop before?
pale sigil
yes
vagrant marsh
drop is more of a US thing
last cave
well they dont have a European store yet
vagrant marsh
cause european law was too consumer friendly
last cave
haha yeah lets just order from Murica because they have cheap stuff
bargain prices
but in the drop community u see a lot of Europeans asking for a new store
pale sigil
But ye
- I dont like gaming audio
- I dont wanna wait 10 years
- Taxes and import fees
- I spent all my money on my computer xD
last cave
I'll keep you updated on how long i takes before i get it and what fees i pay when i do
pale sigil
- I dont like gaming audio being well
the 1 reason i dont
These headsetsd are good for gaming and that only
last cave
I'll use this for gaming only and have separate headphones for music
pale sigil
and i dont wanna spend loads on a gaming headset
pale sigil
depends which one you get
last cave
but i guess if you already own a high end headphone then i can see why you might think its a waste to buy a seperate headset for gaming
i just needed a headset and this one looks the best for the money
pale sigil
i mean
last cave
it's open backed too which i like
last cave
well I'll let you know how they are when i get them i only have Audio-Technica ATH-ADG1X for comparison which were decent
if it does a better job then them I'll be putting those on ebay
crimson wigeon
What exactly makes specific headphones "good for gaming"?
slender rain
LEDs
last cave
@crimson wigeon mostly directional pinpointing and immersion
oh nvm thought you asked headphones in general
pale sigil
last cave
@crimson wigeon I guess like you want a good soundstage for directional pinpoint, a good low-end for things like explosions and & good mic quality for multiplayer
crimson wigeon
But directionality is something you can do with even the crappiest buds.. of course people have been brainwashed to think "7.1" is necessary because developers tend to not implement proper headphone HRTFs
last cave
@pale sigil the razer blackshark v2 are the best "cheap" gaming headset according to Dmitriy Stuzhuk but he said the PC38X blow them away
pale sigil
just trolling
crimson wigeon
And meh, just get something that supports all frequencies decently and if you like bass or whatever equalize that shit
last cave
the blackshark v2 are actually decent for the price
pale sigil
they were so fucking dope
last cave
that's the V1
last cave
so yeah they came out with a newer version of those recently
last cave
maybe try the V2's then lol
last cave
PC38X is a better investment tho
pale sigil
if i ever got blacksharks
it would be for nostalga
not to use
xD
i would never buy razer stuff
@last cave best headset
last cave
@pale sigil 
I'll admit finding a good value product is hard in a minefield of shit ones in the "gaming" community that's marketed to 12 year olds
that's why when you find one you should just go for it and not second guess yourself
otherwise you'll be searching forever for the "perfect" peripheral or end up spending $1000 on a headphone
last cave
finding a new ISP?
wheat plume
ah LEL
last cave
£28 a month is very good for real Fibre
wheat plume
my friend's aunt got a free TV and box upgrade from Sky when she rang to say she wanted to leave them
vagrant marsh
lol
last cave
it's realer than openreach lol
wheat plume
she had no plans to leave, she wanted the free shit
pale sigil
I dont disagree
pale sigil
she had no plans to leave, she wanted the free shit
for me its the opposite, 42 quid for internet only with me only paying is just to much
last cave
hybrid vehicles? hybrid fibre... must all be the same thing
wheat plume
for me its the opposite, 42 quid for internet only with me only paying is just t...
true
last cave
ummm seems my speeds have dropped by half, time to contact my ISP
pale sigil
gl doing that today
last cave
was getting like 40+mbps download now only getting 20ish
last cave
that download is like double the max of openreach providers
last cave
@wheat plume wtf your upload is insane
last cave
£62 a month wow
pale sigil
its more 700-800
and its 62 for 1 year
after its prob like 90
lol
@digital cliff upload is similar right
wheat plume
HOW TF IS THAT 4G????
wheat plume
O.o
wheat plume
this is the fastest ive seen my 4G
EVER
last cave
at a certain MBPS i dont think you'll notice a difference in games
pale sigil
need that mbps for hentai
crimson wigeon
Games rarely use more than a couple mbps, if even that
wheat plume
yeh
wheat plume
need that mbps for hentai
;)
pale sigil
NEIN!mbs
last cave
yeah games benefits from low latency.
so ISP's selling super high download speeds for gaming is questionable to say the least
slender rain
Define "low" here
wheat plume
no one here advertises anything about gaming for their plans :')
slender rain
Wifi is inherently unreliable
wheat plume
:')
last cave
ping is just how far away your ISP is from the game server isn't it?
wheat plume
and also you
wheat plume
ping is just how far away your ISP is from the game server isn't it?
its more the whole route, your computer, to the ISP, to the game server and all that way back again
pale sigil
used to get calls saying "Hey dude, please calm down"
last cave
so changing ISP won't make a difference of your ping in games really unless you moved to the country where the game server is hosted then you ping will improve that's why you should only join game servers close to your home country not join a South Korea server if you live in western europe
pale sigil
yes
wheat plume
pale sigil
works great
Probably your tinfoil plugins
prob tinfoil settings
i totally dont have everything blocked too
wheat plume
I have everything but JS blocked
pale sigil
started to miss firefox
im bored of brave
everything wa sjust so much nicer on firefox
containers i miss so much
i only really had issues with google services
last cave
my ISP is scamming me right now... Minimum Guaranteed speed should be 36.6 Mb just checked and it's only 23 MB
vagrant marsh
and are you sure your modem is up for it?
pale sigil
usually they have a clause that says omething like 10% leeway
last cave
I was getting 50-60MB before
pale sigil
xD
last cave
openreach is like having a wet noodle for an internet line
or they have gimped me
I'll be ringing TalkTalk on monday 😠
23.0 Mbps download 3.0 Mbps upload is an insult
vagrant marsh
pale sigil
not wallpaper engine
crimson wigeon
But it is
pale sigil
same
crimson wigeon
It's in the right click menu
pale sigil
no
crimson wigeon
Yes
vagrant marsh
crimson wigeon
vagrant marsh
not 2 images. a folder of images
crimson wigeon
Unfortunately I'm booted into the wrong OS right now so can't confirm but it was there last time I checked
crimson wigeon
OMEGALUL
thick elk
declare -A params
mapfile -t conf < configfile.txt
for l in "${conf[@]}"; do
for o in "${conf_options[@]}"; do
if [[ "$l" == $o=* ]]; then
params[$o]="${l#$o=}"
echo ${params[$o]}
fi
done
done
Ah the joy of writing terrible bash scripts
Well I wrote this 5 minutes ago but otherwise I kind of agree
crimson wigeon
It makes sense when writing it, then looking back the next day it's like "wtf"
thick elk
basically I write 3 variables in the array called conf_options,
Create an associated array named params
Read the content of configfile.txt into an array called conf
Loop over conf and within the loop I loop over the conf options.
If the line matches conf the current conf option then I write the key value pair to the params array.
So if var1=something exists you can call it with params[var1].
But yea it's pretty silly and bad.