🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

lol no

vastly overestimating peoples ability

[wheat plume]

framework is still very niche

so yeah, most users are tech savy

[sullen bear]

^

[ashen spindle]

yeah and this is just making it worse for trying to be less niche

[sullen bear]

doesnt change this imo

[wheat plume]

yeh

[ashen spindle]

it means you cant just recommend it to someone to just buy without knowing you are ripping them off on the windows key if they want to use it lol

[sullen bear]

Im not talking about recommending it

[ashen spindle]

or if a business wants to use it they will have multiple laptops at higher prices

[sullen bear]

im talking about people who buy it now, are a niche group, and they know how to get a free install

[ashen spindle]

there is no reason to use retail windows licenses though?

[sullen bear]

who is talking about retail windows licenses

[ashen spindle]

just get a microsoft oem contract and you can offer it at like half the cost

every single oem can get windows licenses for laptops much cheaper

framework doesnt lose anything from just offering cheaper windows options if they offer oem licenses instead of retail keys

[fair gull]

even less if you renegotiate and are a big enough oem

[ashen spindle]

yeah depends on what margin you want for yourself etc.

[fair gull]

i mean framework gets its margins from everything but the license lol

[ashen spindle]

but unless you want to stay a niche, why not offer better deals for people without losing money

[fair gull]

i think itll still stay niche even then given the insane price they charge

[heady hazel]

i mean there is no reason to not use a oem license i agree fully there , why get a retail key as a oem?

[fair gull]

maybe they think they can push linux installs this way or smth by showing the huge price difference

[heady hazel]

i mean you can get a oem key for windows for like 2$ on a key site but still

[fair gull]

well lets not talk about key sites

[heady hazel]

yeah but i mean does the average laptop buyer know that? i doubt it so its wierd they charge that much extra

[fair gull]

prob better to not know why or how the keys are so cheap there. its been theorized microsoft could have legal footing if they can prove you know the key is cheaper than it should be for you as a consumer

[heady hazel]

i am just a silly fella i do not know a thing about markets , for me it seems very legit

[fair gull]

and no i obviously dont know the merit of this or truth to it given im not a lawyer and never read the tos i agreed to

not like id understand most of it anyway

[heady hazel]

i mean i just know you need a new one when you swap motherboard for oem keys iirc

[fair gull]

yesnt

if you use a microsoft account it can bind it to that so you can swap hardware

[tribal dirge]

Yeah their prices really are insane

[fair gull]

i did that with my win7 ultimate key i upgraded to 10 and yeah

worked over multiple completely different pcs now

[tribal dirge]

Also makes migrating devices easy

[fair gull]

eh migrating is just plugging the ssd into the new pc and booting

[tribal dirge]

Fair enough

Or just cloning your drive to the new one

[fair gull]

ever since win10 they made it so easy to migrate. no more registry editing to reset driver detection

[heady hazel]

hmm you know i think i did that if i remember correctly

[frozen ingot]

its kinda puzzling who framework thinks their target audience are

[heady hazel]

swapped from x370 to x570 and kept the same key

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, like they have framework 12 that ties to compete with chromebooks but it's like, not a Chromebook.

And the framework 13 and 13 pro which is like, kind of weird

[fair gull]

people who think its worth it to spend (from what ive seen) often double the money on the same specs just to maybe (and the maybe is doing all the work here) upgrade/replace parts

[tribal dirge]

And then framework 16 which had horrible hardware configuration options for its size

[frozen ingot]

I would assume its people with a limited income that wants a machine they can fix/upgrade over time because they can't really financially motivate buying a whole new laptop every 4-5 years

but then they cost more than macs used to at their worst

[tribal dirge]

But framework is so much more expensive

You're paying a premium for the repairability aspect

[fair gull]

pretty sure having a framework that long and then upgrading it basically means you could have bought 3 laptops from other brands

[tribal dirge]

That is undeniable

[heady hazel]

yeah i was gonna say that the upgrade packages aint cheap either

[frozen ingot]

yeah the business model doesn't really make much or any sense from where am sitting

but apparently its worked so far since they still in business

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, you have to charge high prices to be sustainable

[heady hazel]

on paper its great but in reality it seems not as good to me

[tribal dirge]

Especially for the lower volumes framework works with.

[fair gull]

like im at the point where if i need a laptop i get a mac or if it needs to be linux i get some random laptop from hp/dell/lenovo for cheap. mac can run windows really nicely nowadays so yeah.

[frozen ingot]

yeah I think the concept is great and every brand should do it to some extent imo

but the pricing is kind of a self defeating prophecy

[heady hazel]

then again i bought my hp omen in 2020 and still use it, bought 8gb ram for it before the ram crisis and use it for study stuff and light gaming

[fair gull]

like the framework doesnt even have a 240hz display and its already basically twice the money + you have to assemble the fudger

[tribal dirge]

Parallels is really good yeah

Crossover is also good for games

[fair gull]

plus i think the hp has a better cpu with an intel compared to an amd ai thing

but hey

[tribal dirge]

The days of wine and whiskey is basically over for MacOS

[heady hazel]

i think HP Desktops are dogwater but their laptops are pretty decent.

[tribal dirge]

It's pretty easy to run windows stuff on Mac now

Minus some things

[heady hazel]

then again i just have a i5 and 1050ti in mine

[fair gull]

if repairability is really worth another 1.4grand (for basically nothing when you get it except the promise of repairability and upgradability)

i dont think i can help you but god speed to you

[tribal dirge]

If they could just make a framework 16 with a 5080 and a core ultra 9 386H I would be extremely happy and I would buy it.

[fair gull]

also customizability in terms of colors also isnt worth the 1.4k imo. i can get a sick ass hydrodip for way cheaper than that

[heady hazel]

yeah pretty much just take of the covers and hydrodip them

[fair gull]

actually wonder how long the 1.4k can prolong the life of an hp omen like in the example. oem parts can be bought from hp/dell/lenovo. its just harder to replace cause disassembly isnt as easy

its not unrepairable though

[tribal dirge]

Probably for even less, use the extra money to buy a more powerful spec and then have some left over for a battery swap later down the line.

[fair gull]

yeah well i wanted to compare as close as possible like for like prices

since thats what normies would do

look at it and check others for the same specs

and all theyd see is its half the price of framework

anyway hope framework gets more affordable compared to other brands with same spec

[heady hazel]

or a ram upgrade which you can do on most laptops regardless of vendor

[tribal dirge]

Assuming they use sodimm yeah

Which a lot of the thicker gaming laptops do have

Like the legion 9i or the ROG Strix laptops

[heady hazel]

mine did , bought ram for 13€ on aliexpress and now got 16gb of ram which imo is enough for a laptop

[tribal dirge]

I would argue 32 gigs is the right amount for most people on windows but yeah

Chrome tabs on windows for some reason eats more memory than chrome in macOS or Linux

[heady hazel]

my main pc got 32gb but a small i5 powered laptop wont need more than 16imo

[tribal dirge]

Fair enough

My windows laptop is pretty powerful so yeah

[weary spindle]

anyone know some good iems with inline mic?

[frozen ingot]

yes don't post that

[sullen bear]

Nowadays for some games…

[iron wave]

I swear like ¾ of new YouTube channels I look at are LLM slop.

[exotic plinth]

Everything depends on youtube algorythm.

[iron wave]

I never watch more than a minute of these and all 200 or so channels I'm subscribed to are human.

[craggy harness]

gotta delete them from your history^^

i haven't seen a single one of those thingies yet, since i locked my history years ago and deleted everything that wasn't to my liking so the algorythm can only work with what i actually liked

[exotic plinth]

Well my Algorythm is very specific and ai stuff is only on shorts while normal stuff is on normal yt

@iron wave try cleaning your algorythm by searching for videos you are interested and watch those

[craggy harness]

my shorts are pretty much clear of any and all AI stuff as far as i could tell, only my regular clips are sometimes with some gen-ai music, but they're so easy to avoid and quite rare so it mit as well not even exist there at all 😅

[craggy harness]

just deleting stuff from the history should be enough, if you keep it in there it won't really matter what you're searching for/watching as there's always a hint of the stuff left

[exotic plinth]

I never cleaned my youtube history..

[craggy harness]

well, the history is what the algorithm uses tho

[exotic plinth]

I think it is more based on youtube engagement metrics and clicking on recommended

[craggy harness]

if that would be the case i'd constantly get new stuffs shown instead of mostly the same stuffs i've had there for years with just a few new clips using pretty much the same songs or anime for AMVs, no matter how much other stuff i search for it won't ever show me any recommendations for that stuff anymore ever since i disabled the history and cleared out what i didn't want

[exotic plinth]

I get mix of old stuff like 20yr videos i never seen, some gaming content and political and sometimes music

[craggy harness]

just taking this example here and check the dates of the recommended videos^^

been the same stuffs for years, if i check anything EDM i get roughly the same roster, if i check anything metal i get a specific one for that, but the suggestions in general never stray from that into any newer bands or whatever

[exotic plinth]

Technicly you can remove channel of type of content by clicking burger menu

[craggy harness]

even when i look up something from a band i never listened to before i get the same old recommendations and the new one won't ever show up

[exotic plinth]

Propably youtube doesent have new information on you

[craggy harness]

yea, like i said, i locked my history ages ago and that stopped any new stuffs entering the algorithm

it will only work with what's left in the history and that's it

[exotic plinth]

Well it doesent give me minecraft videos tho even if i have it in my history

[craggy harness]

in the same way i could enable it again for a while, feed it with some new clips and then disable it again to get a lil fresh wind based on that and my old stuffs

[hasty thunder]

that's why i paid 1.1k for my board
80 HE
2 UwU's
Mouse
Lian Li controller
BIOS USB Stick
Headphones
Microphone
Screenbar
both monitor hubs

and i still have spare ports

[halcyon moss]

All of that solved with a 10 bucks hub

[weary spindle]

1.1k Board

[frozen ingot]

would spend a bit more and get a powered hub but yeah

basically that

[weary spindle]

If that shit doesnt let me fly to the moon

Its not worth it

[frozen ingot]

they also bought a 9950X3D2 because look guys am ricc

[exotic plinth]

It doesent sounds like a lot of usb ports

[hasty thunder]

can't hear you over my 9950X3D2 on it

[exotic plinth]

My z690 has shit ton of ports

[hasty thunder]

besides, 14 rear USB ports, up to 12 front ports, up to 5 NVMe's without the included PCIe x8 card for 2 additional 5.0 NVMe's, included RAM fan and a whole lot of full aluminum body covers to hide your cable fuckery

[exotic plinth]

Tho i already used up all of my usb c ports already

[exotic plinth]

Did you buy like msi meg series mobo?

[hasty thunder]

X870e Glacial

[exotic plinth]

I do not speak amd

[exotic plinth]

You could say it is asus rog mobo

[distant tapir]

If your GPU doesn't reach your intake fans is it even a real GPU?

[hasty thunder]

ofc you don't speak AMD, because it'd mean admitting defeat, shilltel

[exotic plinth]

You have technicly little bit more usb ports at back and front

[hasty thunder]

for that i'd need a 5 slots GPU. They don't exist and hopefully will never exist

[exotic plinth]

I bought my current pc before 4090 release ok?

And i didnt upgrade anything beside adding new nvme drive

@hasty thunder tho what your mobo does if you fill all nvme slots? Mine turns off sata drives

[hasty thunder]

the fact alone that i can use 3 NVMe's at the same time without sacrificing lanes for the GPU made this board worth it for me tho. Hence why i bought it the day it launched

[exotic plinth]

I do not sacrifice anything either with my nvmes

[hasty thunder]

if i really occupy all of them 2 drives would fight each other for the lanes like they do in the DIMM.2 module already. Luckily the 1 TB NVMe is just a video drive for replays. So there's no bandwidth to it 70% of the time

[exotic plinth]

Interesting

[hasty thunder]

actually i was wrong. I think i can mount 5 NVMe's on the board alone without the DIMM.2 module? Lemme check

yep, 5 on the board alone

[exotic plinth]

Are you sure it doesent turn off usb?

[hasty thunder]

absolutely sure, according to the manual the USB ports still remain its full speed. But 4 drives would fight each other for lanes. Not a full blown free for all brawl, but a 1 vs 1 battle with the next horizontal slot

[exotic plinth]

quite interesting

Well i cant make any upgrades in this economy

Atleast i got good deal on my 990 pro 4000gb

[hasty thunder]

I'd think this board is so ridiculously expensive, because it has a bunch of these x4 switches built-in

• a full PCIe x16 switch

[exotic plinth]

Any white computer part has extra tax on it

[hasty thunder]

doesn't justify the price tag of that beast tho

[exotic plinth]

Doesent like asus make black variant

[hasty thunder]

of the Glacial? Nope

[exotic plinth]

It is crosshair tho

[hasty thunder]

they released the Dark Hero as its sister board, but it doesn't come close to the Glacial in terms of features

[exotic plinth]

It is quite weird for asus

Is it worth it to upgrade to 14900k if i'am not changing mobo

[hasty thunder]

is it these days? They're asking for $50 for their "Equalizer" 12VHPWR cable

it's just a cable with thicker wires. There's nothing special to it

yet they charge you half the price of a decent 1 kW PSU

[exotic plinth]

I have 1200w hx from corsair

[hasty thunder]

i have a Lian Li Edge Platinum 1300W that cost me 140€ a year ago

[exotic plinth]

Look this pc i use is made of parts avialble in Poland two weeks before 4090

I didnt have extra 700€ for 4090 ok

@hasty thunder tho i dont know if my aio can handle 14900k

Tho why still no custom lc

If you have shit ton of euro

[hasty thunder]

it's actually planned

but i don't see a reason why I should execute it tho. My 9950X3D2 reaches 85°C top at 5.8 GHz loads, because i was hella lucky with the dies on it

like seriously lucky. 5.6 on CCD0 and 5.65 on CCD1 without PBO. With PBO and stuff it goes to 5.75 and 5.85

[exotic plinth]

In intel language?

[hasty thunder]

doing 6 GHz with extremely low temps at 300W power draw on a 14900KS

[exotic plinth]

So like 90c on 14900ks witn bad 360mm aio?

If we are talking low temps

Technicly i can push my 12700kf to 5.7ghz

But it doesent like it

[distant tapir]

Is Intel making good CPUs that compete with or beat the 9800X3D for gaming yet? I've been out of the loop for quite a while

[frozen ingot]

not really for gaming

[exotic plinth]

@distant tapir they propably will with their new chiplet cpu

[frozen ingot]

they fare pretty well for productivity now though

[distant tapir]

What's the name? And will it be better by 5% and then immediately lose to AMD again or do you think it will be a decent lead?

[exotic plinth]

Well they did refresh of their chiplet

And it is technicly better than non refresh

[umbral heron]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/04/palantir-employees-are-talking-about-companys-descent-into-fascism/

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWT1dzpQWqw

*Ford Pro Telematics is already live — fleet managers can pull a real-time video feed of your face right now, from their phone, while you're driving. And Ford's own marketing materials explicitly connect that data to insurance outcomes.

Then there's the ad-listening patent. Ford's own words: "maximum opportunity for ad-based monetization." Your conversations. In your truck. Used to sell you things. No description of how that data is protected.

And the one that should end the conversation — Ford filed a patent to scan your biometrics and check them against a criminal database. In real time. Ford described it themselves as useful for police.*

https://giphy.com/gifs/curbyourenthusiasm-season-9-episode-4-3ohhwxqQJzrSXnvWoM

[umbral heron]

And people will still buy them

[nimble arch]

Every company will copy this

It does beg the question, how exactly are they extracting data in real time? I assume it’s a 4G/5G connection, but US carriers are really inconsistent once you get into the sticks.

Although it would be really funny if the federal government suddenly cared about 4G/5G being everywhere instead of relying on LEO satellites for rural areas.

[umbral heron]

Satellite internet in remote areas

[vapid ruin]

maybe sending data to phone then using phone's data through an app or something

[umbral heron]

That's how my smart bulbs updated despite being specifically blocked by firewall

[analog sinew]

dont you hate when your dynamic, hip and fruit basket surveillance startup turns dystopian, who could've known

[lapis plaza]

Own nothing, be happy

cannot wait for a subscription for toaster, microwave... Subscription that can be cancelled for any bad behavior or wrong thinking of course

[vapid ruin]

At this point, just buy cheapo toaster

[umbral heron]

There are already smart toasters

[lapis plaza]

honestly anything we can buy we should buy it now

[vapid ruin]

Yesh, like wooting keyboard.

And spare pcb a year later

[lapis plaza]

wooting subscription when

[vapid ruin]

Then keep the local software version of wootility on pc mac and linux just in case

[lapis plaza]

cannot wait for all these suscription to be linked to digital ID and wallet 😍 Our elite, politician and corporate, love us so much I am sure they wont abuse it

[umbral heron]

People don't care
They know that Meta is a data harvester and yet still use Facebook and Instagram, and then complain why their data has been leaked
They know that Amazon actively kills unions, labor laws and underpays people, but they still use it as only shopping platform, and then complain why they can't get a living wage
They know that Apple actively lobbies against right to repair and yet still buy a new iPhone, and later complain why repair is so expensive

[lapis plaza]

They dont care until they post on facebook a criticism against a politician or a company and the day after they are forbidden of basic service. And I am sure it is the end goal

For some reason people are convinced politicians or companies care about them I dont know this way of thinking is odd

[queen python]

buy bitcoin when

[lapis plaza]

History just show we move from one form of ruling class to another

[umbral heron]

Corporations only care about line going up and they don't mind dirtying their hands in blood when it comes to it

[lapis plaza]

Honestly I dont know

At the end I just see it as different forms of ruler. But at the end there is still a ruling class

[queen python]

don't worry about benevolent ruling classes, worry about economics and incentives

[umbral heron]

With people like Karp we are slowly entering the golden age of techno-fascism

[lapis plaza]

Benevolent and ruling class tend to be an oxymoron

[queen python]

malevolent

sorry its late

[lapis plaza]

Yeah but at the end there are still politicians left ans right cooperating with this kind of companies. And you still have people believing that the political spectrum is meaningful. For me if the end game of the whole political spectrum is the same (mass surveillance) then the political spectrum is a scam

But if people want to lose time and energy fighting for politician ok 🤷‍♂️

[nimble arch]

Politicians don’t do much because they’re scared of the markets. GDP went from being a measure to being the target. The number must go up.

[umbral heron]

Oh, sure, after all bribery is legal

[queen python]

but you're in here talking about it which means you've been directly or indirectly psyoppd into mental paralysis kinda

[lapis plaza]

True but there is not much people can do

You are fighting a propaganda machine with billion or trillion of dollar, and this propaganda is fed from the craddle

If you tell about all of this to people they just think you are weird or lying

[queen python]

yeah if you're talking to boomers

[lapis plaza]

I dont know are generation z aware of this?

[queen python]

people are more distrusting than ever since the pandemic

[umbral heron]

There's this old joke

"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.
"Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."
The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

[queen python]

😂

i believe the us must do a great job domestically

[lapis plaza]

Also there is this pendulum thing like a right wing politician is elected and people on the left are 😭 and they go insane for getting elected someone on the left. Then next election it is the reverse. In between the fundamental policies dont change, the policies that are driving people hysterical are talked 24/7 to distract people, and the pendulum is shifting at every election with nothing fundamentally important changing

But it gives the illusion that something change

[queen python]

information is available, if you're able to sift through the fog of war, the bottom line is you're born here you're basically owned to start with. you have degrees of freedom and ability to participate in a globally connected economy that allows you to change your situation that is possible to take advantage of thought

though*

[umbral heron]

I love the scare of nuclear war

[lapis plaza]

One thing I learned is the best way to play the game is to not play a meaningless game

[lapis plaza]

Every year they come up with something new to scare people

Next year wouldnt be surprised if it is UFO

[umbral heron]

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/trump-data-center-fermi

[ashen spindle]

All told, it could be a canary in the coal mine for the data center industry. If the president of the United States can’t get his pet data center up and running, what does that say for everybody else?
no.. it just means this would not have worked ay any point in time because the ceo had no clue

got nothing to do with AI that you need to have space, cooling, supply chain for data centers, its the same for any classic non AI datacenter

[reef patrol]

The trouble is sudden growth and ignoring common sense when some company wants to put one in your backyard.

"Oh they're so green. And quiet"

Meanwhile the powergrid is overloaded, they're using diesel generators to keep the servers going, and it's louder than an active airport for miles.

Oh and the jobs created? Thousands of illegal migrant workers there temporarily to build it, and then a handful of actual employees once it's running.

[umbral heron]

Remember that while people are being fired they are almost instantly replaced with H-1B workers that are being paid a fraction of that

[reef patrol]

(I am being somewhat facetious of course but the point stands)

[lapis plaza]

companies absolutely dont care about green energy, human rights, tolerance...

all they want is cheap labor

and maximal profit

dont fall into the trap thinking some of them are virtuous

if they could not pay anyone they would

well that is what they try to do with AI

[iron wave]

Good thing it's your car, you get to take that garbage out. You really shouldn't have to though.

[old marlin]

Ever since ecall became a thing cars are basically always online

[leaden kiln]

am I losing all my privacy when I get a new car

[old marlin]

yea kinda

[lunar elm]

ur fat screen comes with a car built in

[fair gull]

and then theres companies using ai to replace their workforce and they then hire people to do low level coding tasks because ai tokens are too expensive for it

lol

[analog sinew]

this cant go wrong whatsoever

[crimson wigeon]

Just you wait in a few years humans will be fully obsolete

[tribal dirge]

or get an old car :)

and slap a haltech in it

boom full control of your car

inspectors will probably hate you but yeah

[leaden kiln]

safety hazard
besides I get free money from the government for an electric car so that’s kinda attractive

[ashen spindle]

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[umbral heron]

STEP files

[reef patrol]

[tulip marlin]

hello i don't know why but when i'm playing in tachyon mod in minecraft i jump like less than half of the time my space bar seems to not work

[ashen spindle]

#1019723042244534282

[tulip marlin]

oh...

thank you didn't see the chat

[tribal dirge]

fair fair

[tribal dirge]

nice nice, as long as it has enough detail to tell me how much clearance is needed and what mounting holes are required i'd consider it good.

[sudden imp]

dawg youtube getting greedy wtf

(not my screenshot)

[reef patrol]

Time for Premium Bronze, Silver and Gold tiers.

[ashen spindle]

premium lite has been a thing for a while

[reef patrol]

And of course Platinum for Youtubers who need to record YT footage for reviews.

[nimble arch]

Aren’t those cards for the in-video ads?

[craggy harness]

i still think everyone paying for that crap is dumb, all it takes is literally 1 browser plugin and you're ad-free all over for free

[sudden imp]

I remeber when these subscriptions were supposed ot be cheap and convient

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-i-member-memberberries-south-park-i-remember-oh-yeah-gif-20408218

[ashen spindle]

you can still just use regular premium

still gets more value than what most people get from just spotify or whatever

[sudden imp]

i mean yt premuim used be 13.99 when spotify raised they prices to 12.99 now its like 16 dollars a month for yt premuim

[reef patrol]

As long as sponsored videos aren't affected by editing out those sections, YT Premium seems like a bad deal.

[frozen ingot]

yeah if I had to pick one media subscription to pay for I'd pick youtube

[fair gull]

yeah well that aint working on phone and tv though

im paying for the hastle free usage on any device

[sullen bear]

You have adblock on phone though

[sudden imp]

youtube premuim IMO was really good deal at 13.99, 15.99 feels really steep

[sudden imp]

people like to use the native app

[sullen bear]

But tv yea, i think only if you can enter a dns or have a pie hole

[sullen bear]

Why?

[fair gull]

eh quite a good deal imo 24eur and we are 3 people using it

[sudden imp]

feels better or something

[sullen bear]

lol

[sudden imp]

is that for the family plan?

[fair gull]

yes

[craggy harness]

actually does when using a browser instead of the youtube app

[fair gull]

yes cause we all know that experience is so much better and phone and tv

[heady hazel]

smarttube exists for tvs and firetv sticks etc

[fair gull]

i just wanna go to youtube and not have to remember to have an addon or other app installed when i switch devices or such

and pihole doesnt do shit on youtube (source i run a pihole since years)

[craggy harness]

the experience is literally the same no matter if i use firefox on my phone or if i use the app, only thing different is that i won't have adds with the browser for free while i'd have to pay for that crap with the app

[craggy harness]

so you're saying 10€ a month is worth it for literally 2 minutes of time spent ONCE for setting up a browser and an addon for it? sheesh you must be earning huge to make that equation work out

[sullen bear]

I mean convenience is personal

[fair gull]

yes totally as i can see

[sullen bear]

So in his case for 3 ppl it might be more convenient to go prem

[fair gull]

not to mention pip doesnt even work in browser

[leaden kiln]

I only do one but it’s spotify
but I don’t watch much yt on my phone

[sullen bear]

What is this?

[fair gull]

landscape in browser and in app

so much the same experience

[sullen bear]

Idk whats wrong with ur phone then lol

[fair gull]

nothing

this is the default mobile youtube expeirence in browser

[craggy harness]

well, go install firefox, get an ad-blocker and bam, no ads or any other kind of BS

[fair gull]

i mean if i click the fullscreen button it also does that

[sullen bear]

I dont even have your pop up

For better or for worse

[ashen spindle]

how many people pay for spotify for basically the same thing

[sullen bear]

Can you adblock spotify?

[craggy harness]

well, people being dumb isn't really news and it only get's worse wich each passing year

[fair gull]

how many people do this for so many things and basically the same outcome

like netflix

or hulu

[sudden imp]

honestly, I think when people get older and have expendable income they are less likely to do these work around addons to avoid a monthly expense

[fair gull]

or some other subscription service

[fair gull]

its more that i cant be arsed

i fought youtube ad blocking so long i just gave up

[sudden imp]

I think that is a driving force

[fair gull]

at some point they always came back and i had to switch addons or figure out settings and such

[sullen bear]

What is there to fight?

Ive only used ublock and i think i can count on 1 hand when i had to do a manual update, not even custom scripts, to bypass youtubes “new” anti adblock

[fair gull]

especially since i do a lot of streaming yt on tv

[craggy harness]

people will always find excuses to not have to move their fingers for literally 2 minutes and to justify them blasting away 10€ or more per month in exchange

[fair gull]

if it was excuses i wouldnt run my own email server and such

[sullen bear]

idk I can understand if u have tech illiterate family

then its not worth the hassle

then u might as well hitchhike premium

[fair gull]

heck i wouldnt run a pihole if 2minutes is too much work for me

[craggy harness]

pfft, even with a tech illiterate family, just take the device, do 2 minutes of fiddling and they're set, let them treat you to a nice dinner in return and both sides win 😄

[fair gull]

not to mention that yt prem is 1 of the very few web subscriptions i even pay for

[heady hazel]

revanced on the tablet and smarttube on the tv i dont think its much effort to block youtube ads

[craggy harness]

then why would you refuse to do those 2 minutes of work and instead pay 10€ or more a month?

[fair gull]

i apparently havent explained sorry. so in the past i had really bad experience with adblocking on youtube and had to fiddle with this every few weeks and i just got fed up cause its a cat and mouse game unlike for example running a pihole or email server where most of the time i spend on it is not cat and mouse but just refining it to what i want with a clear end in sight.

[crimson wigeon]

They just explained why. There could also just be a little feeling nice thing to it since apparently premium views pay a lot more than ad supported views.. unless that has changed

[heady hazel]

ublock origin has never given me any trouble

[craggy harness]

no clue what you did there, but yea, like bee already stated, i only ever installed ublock once, then youtube/google tried countering it for like 1 week until they got bitch slapped for their anti-adblocker stuffs and everything was running smoothly again

[ashen spindle]

works on my machine so surely its going to be working the same for everyone else
can be quite the fallacy

[fair gull]

yeah idk why people hate on windows. works fine for me

[ashen spindle]

regardless of how it worked for you he said it didnt work for him

[heady hazel]

works on multiple peoples machines

[craggy harness]

millions of peoples machines even

[ashen spindle]

origin doesnt even work on v3 anymore so cant make it work on the main used browser

does ublock lite still work on youtube?

[craggy harness]

changing browsers isn't hard, just don't use anything chrome based and get rid of their limitations 🤷‍♂️

[fair gull]

ah yes

the easy solution. if it doesnt work just change the thing

like

what i did

[heady hazel]

ublock still works on other chromium based browsers though

[ashen spindle]

whats out there thats not chromium and has working ad block? firefox crashes and forgets tabs for me and is slow af

its a common and age old firefox issue

[craggy harness]

ever tried waterfox then?

[heady hazel]

firefox used to be my go to browser but eh it just annoyed me at some point

[leaden kiln]

same
so fed up with losing all my tabs so often on ff/zen

[ashen spindle]

not tried waterfox because I'm not wasting my time on doing the linux lifestyle of constantly having to learn what the new hip software is that does xyz

[fair gull]

like im constantly switching between zen and arc right now. and zen is nice and all but it has the same old firefox issues

[fair gull]

gl it has the same issues

[ashen spindle]

oh I'm not going to try it

[fair gull]

i went from firefox to waterfox to zen and they all have the exact same issues which makes sense... they all are firefox after all

[craggy harness]

except that waterfox isn't new or anything, it's ancient at this point already 😅

[ashen spindle]

I dont want to constantly customize my pc experience, I just want to use my pc

[fair gull]

same

i really have to decide and will maybe use zen since arc is EOL

[ashen spindle]

sure waterfox is like a decade old but its not really been a useable option for the entire time imo

more meant jumping around constantly to whats considered the working software

[fair gull]

but firefox having firefox issues is really killing it for me

[ashen spindle]

doubt waterfox would be much faster than firefox as well

[fair gull]

its like... having a job and a home to take care off you just dont wanna waste time on dumb shit

its the reason i wont switch to linux for the forseeable future either on my main pc

i just dont want the hastle of it

[heady hazel]

i agree with that, for servers etc ill gladly use linux but on my desktop id rather not

[fair gull]

yeah i sort of am at the
mac for laptops
windows for desktops
linux for servers

point rn cause it just works for how i use these devices

[heady hazel]

LTT really doing side quests rn hmm? cant wait to see him score 0 points again

[steady sail]

Tbh i could not care about paying YT premium bc i watch tons of vids on my phone

[bleak merlin]

Nvm

[steady sail]

But with 6 members i ask them to pay me their part

[ashen spindle]

never even heard of helium lol

[bleak merlin]

Nvm I saw chromium and my ass thought you wanted a chromium browser

I just use zen browser these days or firefox with ublock origin

[steady sail]

Vivaldi is my go to browser + i don’t really mind the Chromium base

[bleak merlin]

Helium is a decent chromium option

Still waiting for Ladybird browser to mature though

[steady sail]

I don’t wanna change browser again

[fair gull]

i luckily just run it from the account for the apartment so its split by the people who live here anyway aka my gf and her mom + me

[steady sail]

Yeah thats understandable

[sudden imp]

Wait isn’t arc browser that one for Mac?

[fair gull]

and windows

but yes thats where it started

they now make a browser called Dia and its imo so much worse

[sudden imp]

Ah

[fair gull]

mainly cause its AI

[sudden imp]

What’s going on with fire fox rn

Cause all paths seem to lead to chrome

[fair gull]

nothing really except they also seem to wanna do AI

like firefox is basically standing still in terms of making a good browser

[reef patrol]

Firefox - For when you need to download something from Youtube.

[fair gull]

i think just recently firefox started to fix colorbanding via dithering in color gradients so they dont look ass

an issue that has been known for 10yrs+ i think

[unkempt sluice]

alright so wooting is just changing the time to when my keyboard gets shipped

at first it was today and now its in 2 days

and that happened twice

[reef patrol]

What is the current status?

And what did you order.

[old marlin]

idk works fine

switched a couple of times between it and some flavor of chrome but have been on firefox for quite a while again without major issues

[craggy harness]

same here, literally any time i touch anything chrome based i can already hear my brain cells comitting suicide one by one from the troubles, just gotta look at steam which is sadly mandatory for gaming and how many issues it has thanks to it, corporate injected crap simply never offers a good solution in terms of reliability while maintaining privacy or low cost, it's usually 1, maybe 2 out of the 3 points at best, sometimes not even 1 tho

[jovial lintel]

should i get wooting 60HE or 60HE v2?

[craggy harness]

instead of getting an incomplete keyboard just get a two he

[bleak merlin]

Nay we must go wooting 40he 😛

[craggy harness]

https://tenor.com/view/sealyx-naked-gun-the-naked-gun-facepalm-facepalm-meme-gif-11743768702765397589

[old marlin]

how dare people have layout preference

[craggy harness]

funny enough it's those people tho that go for a wooting numpad etc, which wouldn't be needed at all if they'd instead just get a complete keyboard in the first place

[old marlin]

"those people" that actually make a majority of buyers last I knew

while there is quite small demand for a wooting numpad

[frozen ingot]

only thing I find numpad handy for personally is moving the camera in blender, outside of that its just deadweight taking up space on my desk

so for me it would be of more use as a separate unit I can stow away

[sullen bear]

so what now

[rough osprey]

6000

[sullen bear]

💀

[leaden kiln]

I never use a numpad outside of work, would definitely be wasted space in my small setup, would put my keyboard way too far left to be able to type comfortably

[frozen ingot]

yeah not really a fan of having it stuck on the right side either

[tribal dirge]

Are you rendering a video or what?

[sullen bear]

nope

max settings in crimson desert @ 1440p

this is why I dont want 4k lol

[tribal dirge]

Why does that game use video encode apart from instant replay?

[sullen bear]

its probably steam recording in the background

[tribal dirge]

Even then instant replay should only use 10-20% video encode at 4K 60

[lunar elm]

honestly CD is one of the outliers when it comes to upscaling

[tribal dirge]

Stop using that shit, just use Nvidia instant replay, instant replay is way more efficient

Steam recording is so inefficient it's laughable

[leaden kiln]

yeah would work nice on the left so you could use your non mouse hand for numbers
if I already have both hands on my keyboard I can just use the number row at about the same speed

[sullen bear]

So it would reduce my 3d usage?

[sullen bear]

wdym?

[tribal dirge]

Reduce video encode usage, 3D usage is entirely on the game

Or I should say

DirextX

[sullen bear]

yeah but why do I care about video encode usage lol

[tribal dirge]

It sucks up power that could be given to GPU cores

[sullen bear]

meh I still have like 300w headroom

[tribal dirge]

Ah fair

I guess dw too much about video encode then

[sullen bear]

steam is so much more convenient than nvidia shadowthingy too

[heady hazel]

idk i think nvidia works fine just hit a button or use the highlight feature.

[tribal dirge]

No I'd argue Nvidia shadowplay is better because it's just pressing your hotkey to save

[sullen bear]

steam always saves then allows you to edit within steam

[tribal dirge]

Yeah and the highlight feature is nice if you don't want to press a hotkey lmao

[tribal dirge]

Steam video trimmer sucks compared to just VLC lmao

[sullen bear]

when does the highlight feature kick in?

[ashen spindle]

steam doesnt have av1 recording options yet

[sullen bear]

vlc doesnt give you an auto download link

or share link rather

[heady hazel]

though it is a bit buggy in warthunder sometimes the wrong highlight gets clipped twice

[tribal dirge]

Oh ew steam saves to the cloud!? Smh

[sullen bear]

doesnt highlight require a game compatible with it?

[tribal dirge]

Not rlly

[lunar elm]

av1 my beloved

[heady hazel]

if you want to use it out of the box yes

[sullen bear]

so you have to set it up per game? or how does it work?

[tribal dirge]

Generally it works universally iirc

[heady hazel]

yeah you can just hit a button and retroactively save up to 5 minutes iirc

[sullen bear]

Yeah but I mean the without button part

because I dont want to have to remember to hit a button in 2 hours of active pvp xD

[tribal dirge]

You can do more iirc, depends on how much RAM you have

The larger your replay buffer the more ram it will take

[sullen bear]

but then you offload from video encode to ram usage?

[heady hazel]

that requires game implementation iirc

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

[tribal dirge]

It's not abnormal for cpu and gpu to share memory in windows?

[sullen bear]

Ok yea so steam has inefficient encoding but it has full length auto recording, in client clipping, native sharing features...

[tribal dirge]

Me personally I don't need those since if I share I just upload from my computer directly

[sullen bear]

vs nvidia who has more efficient encoding, but requires you to start recording or clipping, then editting it in another tool, then upload it somewhere?

dont get me wrong, ive used shadowplay A LOT, but its so much more inconvenient

[tribal dirge]

Recording starts automatically when you launch the game

[sullen bear]

I think thats new then mayhaps, or didnt work well with shadowplay back when I used it

[tribal dirge]

And clipping is automatic if you enable highlights

[sullen bear]

yeah but theres no highlights in the games i play

[pale sigil]

I use it a fuck ton and you'll never ever convince me it's not incredibly convenient

That being said the modern version so utter garbage

[tribal dirge]

Oh rip

[pale sigil]

Ye Nvidia highlights is dope

Even single player games use it sometimes

[sullen bear]

Also does nvidia auto-delete yet?

with old clips and stuff

[tribal dirge]

I love highlights, sometimes it's like "ah shit I forgot to clip that" and then it's in my highlights and I'm very happy

[tribal dirge]

Yes it can depending on how much reserve storage you give it

It deletes sequentially based on creation date and time

[pale sigil]

Meanwhile me with 500gb + clips

👀

Well it's probably less now tbh

[heady hazel]

no you can edit in nvidia i think at least you can cut iirc

[sullen bear]

ok thats nice, but again, the rest is too inconvenient in comparison

[pale sigil]

When I clip i try to trim right away and delete the source

[heady hazel]

and post to youtube or export

[sullen bear]

I dont want to post to youtube or export as file xD

[pale sigil]

I just use windows video video player to trim

[heady hazel]

i just run stuff through handbrake because it just works

[tribal dirge]

Also another nice thing about shadowplay, you can pick to capture your VC audio and your game audio or your game audio only.

[pale sigil]

Yes it uses the audio source you choose vs global audio

But that's not unique

[tribal dirge]

Yeah fair

[sullen bear]

yeah thats actually nice

idk if steam has that

[pale sigil]

I always had an issue where it would choose my virtual oculus mic even if I changed it lol

I had to disable it all the time

Steam clips has been garbage for me tbh

It has way more performance impact than shadow play but it makes sense

[heady hazel]

windows lllllllooooooooves to use those occulus virtual audio components

[sullen bear]

how?

[pale sigil]

Performance cost has always been too high

Even when using hardware encoding or w.e it's called

[steady sail]

I wish AMD had a better replay save system

[tribal dirge]

Hardware accelerated encode

[pale sigil]

I used that

[tribal dirge]

But even when using hardware encoders it's not great

Nvidia shadowplay is just better

[pale sigil]

Ye it really isn't

Shadow play basically results in 1fps loss

Mines on 24/7

[heady hazel]

yeah its not bad at all

[tribal dirge]

Shadowplay turns itself off when it doesn't detect a game running

[pale sigil]

Not if you choose not to

[tribal dirge]

But iirc you can set it to be on all the time

Yeah

[pale sigil]

But also the newest version is garbage kek

I genuinely despise the newest Nvidia app

[tribal dirge]

Idt it's that bad.

[pale sigil]

It hates network drives for example

[sullen bear]

if nvidia had its own hosting and clipping within their recording like in steam, maybe in nvidia app, I would use it

I prefer the new nvidia app actually, or is there a newer version?

[pale sigil]

Impossible for me to choose my directory too, on multiple windows installs!

It crashes way more

I genuinely despise it

Never ever had so many issues before and I can no longer use the older version as it forces an update now

[sullen bear]

huh Ive never had nvidia app crash ever

even the old one

[tribal dirge]

Same I haven't had any crashes

[tribal dirge]

Nice

[sullen bear]

idk if it splits channels though

[heady hazel]

real the old one was better

[sullen bear]

my only drawback so far is that steam caps at 60 fps

steam forum is special

cant even see 120 fps truth enjoyer

[heady hazel]

i really would like to get the thought process, of the whole fps deniers

[graceful stump]

is "axagon" a good brand for hdd/ssd enclosures? i cant find ugreen from a reliable vendor in my country

[heady hazel]

honestly i just got one from amazon that was cheap, its just a sata to usb interface with some plastic around

[iron wave]

[steady sail]

Slow

[iron wave]

I scrolled up a ways and didn't see it.

[steady sail]

#🎮│game

[iron wave]

🤷‍♀️

[thick elk]

Honestly not the price I wanted to see but still one I am more than willing to pay

[lyric hatch]

Problem for me is getting one when steam doesn't sell to my country
I'm sure I'll find a way

[iron wave]

$100 for a controller that should last longer than your PC isn't a bad deal.

[halcyon moss]

It's pricy

[iron wave]

That's at most $10/yr.

[analog sinew]

hmm that might be tempting

i dun have a controller and this would be nice

[umbral heron]

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/04/framework-laptop-13-pro-is-selling-out-with-the-linux-version-beating-windows/

[sudden imp]

Gamer laptop?

[ashen spindle]

yes no shit if they only add windows with retail pricing aka more than double what a normal OEM charges

[fair gull]

also selling out of what quantity lol

[thick elk]

Oh definitely, I would obtain my windows activation through other means in the same situation. Generally do a clean install on windows laptops anyway.

Even if I would not use linux. Wonder how the sales figures compare for lenovo, which charges 70 for windows I think 40 for ubuntu and nothing for no os.

[ashen spindle]

yeah some ptl cpu skus are also just not available anywhere so some got a framework just because it was the only stock of it in any laptop

[umbral heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19l-3IVQ9nw

[iron wave]

Watch get.

[iron wave]

First impressions: I think the old display might be better, the UI hasn't been changed much for the higher resolution and is quite sparse for the amount of screen real estate that's available. I do appreciate that the battery percentage has an additional digit so it can show more than 10% increments. The old charger appears to work, as the new USB C one works on my old Pebble Time.

[regal saddle]

Hi every1

Would this be a viable pc build

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/gDYMck

[ashen spindle]

viable sure, paying too much for what youre getting, also yes

[latent mural]

16gbs off the bet is gonna be tough in 2026 if you plan on gaming

espically on windows

[sullen bear]

Single channel 16 gig lol would nuke your performance

Other than that i personally would go for a 9070xt, or drop the 9800x3d for a cheaper cpu (7800x3d or maybe 7500f depending on the games you play) and get a 5070ti or more depending on budget

[ashen spindle]

yeah, or even get an intel one depending on what the games are

[sullen bear]

Issue then is upgrade path

[ashen spindle]

but also I dont think single stick on ddr5 matters much anymore, especially wihth x3d

[sullen bear]

Can always sell the 7500f and get a 9800x3d

[ashen spindle]

meh, you'll need new ram and likely new socket anyway for zen6 to matter so thats not really an argument with current ram prices

so a 250 or 270 plus can just be better value if its more gpu limited gaming

[sullen bear]

But there is an upgrade path

With intel there isnt

https://youtu.be/ghiCShc_f7Q

Seems to matter less but still a big hit imo, only tested on 5 games though

[ashen spindle]

yeah but saying there is an ugprade path when most likely its not actually a good upgrade is kinda missing the point

[sullen bear]

Cant really find other tests with the 9800x3d

[sullen bear]

Thats why i said this

And not zen6

[ashen spindle]

so you're limited to older hardware idk I dont see the point

[sullen bear]

Which is still an upgrade path outperforming any intel current chip and future chip

Within platform

[ashen spindle]

SOTTR having higher fps with single channel makes me doubt

but yeah 2x8 is always the better option, it didnt have a price so I just assumed its a case of he already has the ram

[sullen bear]

https://youtu.be/f2ge2UgvJ9U some more games

[echo charm]

nice vid

[lunar elm]

nah its different with d5

it doesnt tank performance that much anymore

[sullen bear]

@lunar elm ?

[lunar elm]

were they having lack of memory? also yeah 5 game bench is just sad

[sullen bear]

Did you only read 1 message out of the entire convo?

[lunar elm]

yes xd

[sullen bear]

reading declared illegal

[lunar elm]

was that test done in 1080p? I tried b4 albeit with 1440p max graphics so I was GPU bound xddd

nvm dont answer that

[mortal swallow]

Should I get a new cpu fan? The phantom spirit 120 whatever whatever had trouble cooling my 5800x when I got it, but It was under 80 so I was happy, but now it’s not working as great even after refreshing thermal paste, going up to 85 when I’m gaming

I’m already buying some tech related stuff and I thought maybe I should get a new cpu fan

[ashen spindle]

if you want it to be quieter but the temp is fine

[mortal swallow]

kinda want a aio so my case has more room but idk which ones to get that aren’t brand tax and are still good and safe

[ashen spindle]

5800 specifically is hard to keep cool

[lunar elm]

the lion turns off the overlay and sleeps

[mortal swallow]

The lion hears the Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech everytime he boots up valorant through his headphones and awakens angrily

[mortal swallow]

truth nuke which is why I want a aio for better cooling

[ashen spindle]

to gain what, the temperature is fine

[mortal swallow]

idk how to fix it but after my CPU goes up to a certain degree amount, it starts throttling and just turning shit

I've looked up how to fix it but none of them ever worked

My shit hits like 85-90 while gaming for reference

It's like I'm practically not even using a cooler

[ashen spindle]

it only thermal throttles if it reaches like 90 not below

[mortal swallow]

idk it usually hangs around 88

[ashen spindle]

think 95c is the default in bios

[mortal swallow]

the CPU fan works fine, the cpu just runs super fucking hot

[sullen bear]

Check hwinfo64 and you get the hard proof u want

It even shows u what it’ll throttle at

[mortal swallow]

Is he monitor not good anymkre

Hw

[ashen spindle]

never was

[mortal swallow]

Why not 🥲

[sullen bear]

It was hijacked

[lunar elm]

having “thermal issues” on a phantom spirit is skill issue icl

[mortal swallow]

Oh

[sullen bear]

Just this month

[mortal swallow]

Am I cooked

[sullen bear]

So it installed russian spyware iirc

[mortal swallow]

Actually I reset my PC 2 days ago Im prolly aite

[ashen spindle]

I mean hwinfo afaik just always had more details

so you can just run that and if it runs into thermal throttle range you will see that

[sullen bear]

Cpu z was also affected iirc

[mortal swallow]

Truth

[mortal swallow]

🥹

I do not have the phantom spirit

I meant peerless assassin

Got it mixed up

[sullen bear]

Wait so what do you have?

[mortal swallow]

Peerless assassin 120se

Dude the fans get so damn loud that's the only reason I can't just ignore it

And I fucked up the organization of my case fans so if I change one fan curve they all change

[sullen bear]

You daisy chained all the fans?

Even cpu fans?

[mortal swallow]

With my fan hub

it works fine just is annoying for fan curve

it's one or none

[craggy harness]

i mean didn't the same happen with lenovo and dell? as in them jumping the sinking winshit11 boat and going with linux and having immensely more sales on that front while also having a far lower return rate of them?

[mortal swallow]

I wanna get rid of my individual fans and replace them with like trio bunched fans

[sullen bear]

Even cpu fans? 💀

[mortal swallow]

Indeed

[sullen bear]

Maybe fix that before you buy a new setup haha…

[mortal swallow]

actually idk about CPU lemme check

Well there's something plugged into the CPU fan port

💀

[ashen spindle]

no lenovo event stopped selling linux at times idk if they even offer it atm

[mortal swallow]

I built my PC high as shit so Idek what's going on

You should see the back of my case cable management it's so bad

I thought that might be why my CPU runs like a volcano but tried in my brother's spare PC same thing

[craggy harness]

hmm ok, i just saw some videos explaining the situation around microshit and how a lot of long term partners turned away from them and focused more on linux with surprisingly high success

[ashen spindle]

idk trying to do serious discussions about market impacts and calling windows winshit or macos toddler-os tends to not have much actual knowledge about it I keep noticing

[sullen bear]

@mortal swallow

You can probably fix your own setup with a repaste and checking if your fans are set up correctly, also undervolting, if allat dont work gn has a decent bit of research on this topic

https://gamersnexus.net/coolers/best-cpu-coolers-weve-tested-2025-thermals-noise-levels-value-26-coolers-tested

You’re probably most interested in the noise normalized section

[craggy harness]

sorry for being just pissed off with that win11 abomination after having to spend weeks worth of work just fixing laptops and PCs of friends that were desperate thanks to that OS bricking their systems (and not being savy enough to fix it themselves) to a state where it would hardly respond to simple folder opening, running apps was actually impossible at all as it would just "load" for 2-3 minutes and then just decide to stop (simple win key readers to get at least the serial back in a fast way) having to do any kind of file backing-up took ages at speeds of like 100kb/s and worse as well

[ashen spindle]

I mean same thing can happen to you with linux, just remember the last time linus at LTT managed to do that with his home system on linux

[craggy harness]

well, i'm not saying linux is the solution to everything, heck i myself wouldn't touch it for as long as everything i use on a daily basis still runs fine on win10, but shitting on win11 over all the headaches it caused me during the past 5 months sure isn't coming out of nowhere, MS literally harrassing users into "upgrading" until they finally do it just to make the crap popups stop isn't helping either

[ashen spindle]

anyway the main reason why framework is seeing so much more linux sales comes from 2 things

1. vast majority of their buyers is tech savvy and would know how to ask for a windows license refund on a regular laptop oem as well
2. instead of like using the 20-50$ OEM deals microsoft makes with manufacturers you get to pay full retail pricing for a windows key

[lyric hatch]

Yeah it's like $168 USD equivalent for their windows 11 home license that's wild pricing

[craggy harness]

tbh, even tho i wouldn't be using it, i'd probably still just get the linux version and install win10 on it afterwards, even if they'd only charge 5€ more for the windows version of it 😅

like seriously tho, who doesn't have at least 1-2 windows 10 keys from previous systems lying around at home that work just as fine on win11 if one would want that for whatever weird reason?

[pastel galleon]

OEM keys are non transferable iirc

[mortal swallow]

was glancin through hwinfo64 and noticed this, is this bad

its like constantly above 1.4v

and i looked it up and i guess thats bad

[pastel galleon]

What is it for, RAM?

[mortal swallow]

cpu

[pastel galleon]

1.4V???

that seems high for a CPU in general even for short term

[mortal swallow]

ive been on that for like

ever

my cpu came with overclock settings cus it was my brothers

i think default is like 95a 140a 145w

idk if i should change allat

[lunar elm]

its little wonder why its hot

[mortal swallow]

idk how to change

[tribal dirge]

why is it boosting all the time?

the only way I can see this happening is if you enable the high performance power plan in windows

which forces boost clock as much as possible

[mortal swallow]

I do indeed have that on

Is that not normal to have on

[craggy harness]

should at least not cause it to run hot (with a decent enough cooler at least), unless it's really under permanent full load as well, like my i7 is boosting permanently as well and outside of a handful of games it never goes above 50°C

[halcyon moss]

Performance power plan has very little benefits

[craggy harness]

outside of everything going into standby or heck shutting off completely you mean, eh?

[halcyon moss]

Usually those are good things

[craggy harness]

or in some games actually impacting performance due to the CPU not going into boost mode by itself for one reason or another

best example being 7 days to die in my case, no matter when i had balanced mode on it would constantly struggle with my cpu more or less sleeping or using eco cores instead of performance ones, after swapping to performance mode it didn't struggle at all anymore, was using the right cores and boosting as it should

[umbral heron]

Mom, can we have Copilot?
We have Copilot at home, sweetie
Copilot at home: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-AI-Features-2026

[nimble arch]

As long as they're optional, does it really matter?

[umbral heron]

Eh, with Canonical we learned time and time again that what's optional quickly becomes mandatory
But there's still Debian, so potato potato

[sullen bear]

At least on x3d/amd its recommended to keep on balance

But your best option is probably resetting bios then only turning xmp/expo on

[wheat harness]

What’s happening here

[reef patrol]

Your player/GPU got confused about what specific hex code colour to overlap with the video it spits out.

Videos are greenscreens. Really.

[wheat harness]

aight

any way i can fix it>?

[reef patrol]

Restart the PC?

[ember lynx]

true thinker

[sour totem]

Works 80% of the time, every time

[wheat harness]

this has happened for a couple days

i updated the drivers and it didnt work

[iron wave]

Interesting.

I feel like the order these get presented influences the result more than the color.

[fair gull]

what

[iron wave]

Go take the test. :-)

https://ismy.blue/

[fair gull]

i mean

turquoise is green so idk how thats wrong

[leaden kiln]

where does it say wrong

[fair gull]

why else would it explicitly mention turquoise being green for me

[leaden kiln]

seems like pretty neutral language to me

[iron wave]

Turquoise is blue.

You can get green turquoise, but the default is blue.

[analog sinew]

im blu da bu dee da bu dai

[tired sphinx]

easy

[reef patrol]

Uh oh.

[rough osprey]

im nothing like yall

[reef patrol]

[rough osprey]

do not drive a car

[tired sphinx]

[short agate]

i was probably slightly too aggressively leaning blue but...

[umbral heron]

[alpine patio]

how did everyone lean to the left

[vagrant pagoda]

kek

[marsh glade]

Being terminally online has degraded their capacity to see blues

This was my result

[regal saddle]

I know, I’m broke and I’m getting another 16gb stick when I have the money

I play Fortnite mostly so it’s very cpu heavy

So I prioriticed cpu

[alpine patio]

ur screenshot is kinda more green then the rest

[marsh glade]

I copied it from what I posted to Slack to WhatsApp and then copied it from WhatsApp to here

[alpine patio]

ooo icic

[tired sphinx]

it's less saturated from what i can see

[gusty kiln]

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-hearth-nas-pro-black/p/N82E16811147396?srsltid=AfmBOoqvcr6rNzDK_pcqvPQaVclgmMJzni9eMrtzRZtHYmuQIKdNaItA

Dunno why people would but this over the jonsbo n6 other than eatx support

[sullen bear]

Idk how mixing ddr5 is nowadays

[fair gull]

actual caddies

not the jonsbo bs

[gusty kiln]

I guess, hope someone reviews it

[pale sigil]

Jonso nas case has its issues

But I agree

Jonso is pricey, I was too cheap so I got a Fractal Design Node 804

[crude kiln]

hey guys so i want a 60% but i use the key below esc on 80% and arrow keys but i dont know which to get

[halcyon moss]

You want more keys, get an 80he

[crude kiln]

i like this

[vapid ruin]

80he

You can use the key you don't use as a place to put custom made keycap for decoration

or knob

[crude kiln]

fair

[rough osprey]

new nvidia driver

[shy glacier]

anyone here have a Sony xm6 or bose QC ultra 2 headset? not sure which one to get rn. Mostly what I've read is Bose just has better ANC and fit but worse sound/battery

[wheat plume]

lesgoooooo

[unkempt lake]

https://twistedvoxel.com/steam-machine-receives-major-internal-price-hike-more-expensive-than-steam-frame/

[plucky tapir]

Gonna cost more than a PS5 Pro and be worse than a PS5 Slim, sadge.

At least I can get the controller.

[sudden imp]

RIP, I guess this means others were raised

[ashen spindle]

another news article made out of a single tweet that said water is wet

https://x.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/2048818605991604356 this is the actual post

Brad Lynch (@SadlyItsBradley)

Valve confirmed to Polygon that they are releasing the Steam Controller earlier due to RAM sourcing issues for their other products

I’ve been told some Valve Internal pricing targets they had before AND after RAM skyrocketed

Machine is affected the most. Frame is not as bad

X · Apr 27, 2026, 5:36 PM

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-leclerc-must-be-the-water-gif-9711310935832279179

[wheat plume]

fairly updated kernel, okii noice

[ashen spindle]

guys we have reached worse-than-apple tiers of insane pricing

[vapid ruin]

I mean... how much does apple charge for 10 more gpu core and 8gb of ram?

[ashen spindle]

this is 4gb difference lmao

[vapid ruin]

Ohh, I'm blind

[unkempt lake]

BUT MUH REPAIRABILITY

[vapid ruin]

that's a whole mac mini in price lmao

[lapis plaza]

apple can absorb the rise in component because they were already expensive from the beginning I guess

[marsh glade]

They're clearly subsidizing the actual cost+margin of the lower spec'd card with the pricing of the higher, to drive better affordability at the expense of those who value the increased capability more

Taken as a whole, it is a net positive. If you look at it from the perspective of the person wanting the best, they're worse off

[ashen spindle]

nope the 12gb uses the new 3gb modules and is only now avaialble the 8gb has been out for a while

so any 3gb module is taken away from 5090m and prosumer cards currently lol

[pale sigil]

...

[crimson wigeon]

Microslop

[pale sigil]

i legit cannot access my account

Amazing\

ok i got it back in a stupid way

[wheat plume]

Says the main corporation trying to push ai into everything

[bright briar]

Learning network and protocols is so much fun......

"how to find out if your shorty is a wifey or a hoe in IP address class system. Is she a class A IP address or a class D IP address"

if she's class D IP address which is multicast so she's for everyone ☝️ 🤓

[misty scaffold]

styll…

[bright briar]

stay blessed you're a good yute styll

[frozen ingot]

yeah the steam machine has quite a lot going against if it can't roughly match the console gang on price

[bright briar]

no price reveal yet?

[frozen ingot]

nopers

[umbral heron]

So - I have 3600X with B450 motherboard, 16G of DDR4, SSD, PSU, whole affair but without GPU
Would it be better to but an Intel GPU for that or get like a i5-8500T or something with motherboard? It's mostly for HTPC and Jellyfin server

[heady hazel]

intel gpus iirc suport av1 right? so if you have a lot of media in av1 the encoding could be done server side

[umbral heron]

11th gen+ have AV1 encoding, but 8th+ have decoding

[lyric hatch]

Intel GPU seems like the easiest although will suck more power

[heady hazel]

yeah i ment gpu , tried to correct before discord took a nosedive

[umbral heron]

I can get A380 for 150€

[ashen spindle]

probably want to look at an a310 for just media

[umbral heron]

Cheapest one here is 130€

@ashen spindle what you think would be better approach, CPU or GPU?

[ashen spindle]

no clue not something I do I just have a nas for storage

probably best to look at benchmarks if that makes a difference but most likely whatever is the cheapest option

[umbral heron]

Mini PC with 8500 or similar but no RAM or SSD costs about the same as A380, so yeah
It will be connected to NAS regardless, but I want something more powerful than my poor Android box which dies when I throw H265 or AV1 on it

[heady hazel]

could be related to av1 encoding not beeing hardware supported that was the main reason i got a new fire tv stick

[umbral heron]

It has AV1 decoding, I bought it specifically for that
But while it's okay on YT for example, it dies when I use Kodi

[heady hazel]

i use kodi to host my library over upnp it works fine on my fire tv stick tbh is it av1 or specific h265?

[umbral heron]

Both
It's only happy with h264

I think Mali-G31 inside is just too weak for Kodi

[heady hazel]

hmm i mean does it drop frames or what happens?

[umbral heron]

For AV1 straight out drops frames
For H265 it's like it can't keep up, slows down for half a second, then speeds up and so on

[heady hazel]

hmm does the encoding run well on the pc? i had it badly encoded once and it would not work on either

[umbral heron]

Yeah, PC, my phone, even poor laptop, everywhere else works great

[heady hazel]

is it all resolutions?

[umbral heron]

720p H265 works kinda fine, but that's about it

I wonder how 3600X does with low-power applications

[halcyon moss]

What does the n100 do? Or the newer ones..

[ashen spindle]

power wise? horrible due to io die

[umbral heron]

New idea - I get RX 7600 and make a poor's man Steam Machine

[nimble arch]

New idea, don't.

[steady sail]

New idea get a 5090

[umbral heron]

I can get new RX 7600 for 170€, a tiny bit more over A380

[ashen spindle]

much worse though for media engine

[nimble arch]

New idea, wait for the RTX 6090

[frozen ingot]

new idea, drive a rental loaded with fertilizer into the nearest datacenter

[nimble arch]

[frozen ingot]

nah but fr don't do that

[nimble arch]

Jokes on my FBI agent, I can't drive

[umbral heron]

I mean a cistern 48000l of swine liquid manure is only 95€

And some people give it away for free

The closest AWS datacenter is in Frankfurt... that may actually work

[nimble arch]

I, for one, like our AWS overlords.

This chat needs god Palantir

[umbral heron]

The next one goes straight to Britain and through your window

[nimble arch]

You’ll never know where I live

😉

[heady hazel]

nothing of value to be lost there

[steady sail]

Calsy is the WootAI

She know everything

[sullen bear]

In an aws centre

[trim compass]

Deciding wether or not to pick up the Logitech Pro X2 Superstrike

Anybody who has it can give me some insight?

[rough osprey]

i like mine

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/doxxed-get-doxxed-gif-21527937

[pale sigil]

https://fxtwitter.com/theflow0/status/2049255768428347566

Andy Nguyen (@theflow0)

ps5-linux has been released! You can now turn your PS5 Phat console on 3.xx and 4.xx FWs into a fully functional Linux PC gaming device!
︀︀
︀︀github.com/ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader

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FxTwitter · Apr 28, 2026, 10:33 PM

[pastel galleon]

must beam the datacenter with a solar flare

[charred nexus]

guys i try to install the drive for ROG STRIX B850-A GAMING WIFI's WIFI and Bluetooth but i cant seems to make it work

nothing appears in Device Manager even after i have restarted my PC

Bluetooth and WIFI is enabled in BIOS

[pastel galleon]

wifi and bt drivers?

[lunar elm]

brilliant idea

[charred nexus]

yeah

[pastel galleon]

you sure they were the latest drivers?

[charred nexus]

yeah I just downloaded from Asus's website

[pastel galleon]

huh

[charred nexus]

I think my motherboard is broken or windows is fucked

cuz I just bought this for like a month or something

I never actually need bt or wifi till like im trying to pair my ear buds then I realized there's no Bluetooth or anything

[pastel galleon]

try factory resetting the board

and try reinstalling the drivers

[charred nexus]

like how? I have reset the bios settings once

[pastel galleon]

if that doesn't work maybe install 1 version onlder

[pastel galleon]

actually nvm, probably not a bios thing

try installing an older driver version

[charred nexus]

tried that, the device no longer even appears in device manager now

[pastel galleon]

its just windows being sloppy af

[charred nexus]

I have also done that

nothing happens

[ashen spindle]

try a linux usb and see if it works on that to exclude windows being the issue

[charred nexus]

wait good idea I'm dumb

imma try it later

[iron wave]

I finally undefaced my car from the dealer badge.

No more big black glue spot maring my car, but it seems to have damaged the clear coat some because in that spot water beads differently....

[charred nexus]

lowkey don't wanna reinstall windows just after a month into using this windows installation

man fuck Microsoft

[pastel galleon]

true

[iron wave]

I wish I had a place to talk about car stuff. .-.

[unkempt lake]

Are you sure you got the one for the correct revision

I had a similar issue on an asus b650 board and it was just because there was a revision with a different bt chip

[frozen ingot]

mobo manufacturers usually has drivers for bt and other chipsets bc the the plug and play stuff in windows doesn't always work/find them without it

but even when bt is working as it should in windows its pretty crap

[unkempt lake]

Also... do you have the antennas installed

Bluetooth will not work well if that's not on lol

People dont seem to realize its not just for wifi

[frozen ingot]

wifi don't always work that reliably either to my experience with windows on laptops

[unkempt lake]

I know but

Antennas are worth plugging

[ashen spindle]

there is a difference between not having good signal due to not using the antenna and it not showing up in device tree

[unkempt lake]

Yeah i know i was replying to night for saying bt is ass on windows

I was replying to 2 things at once

But @charred nexus did you dl the driver for the right revision of your mboo

Mobo

There's more than one on the support page

[frozen ingot]

sure the antenna strength and whatevers blocking it will affect usable range and am guessing most of them are pretty weak because every windows machine I've used it on had like 1/4 the usable distance from the host compared to any other bt devices I've used

[unkempt lake]

meanwhile i can be downstairs and my controller still manages to pair with my pc that's upstairs

Maybe i'm just lucky but

[frozen ingot]

and the pairing can be tempramental

[unkempt lake]

Bluetooth's always been fine for me

And the only time i can remember having an issue or someone around me having an issue its a case of

Oh the antenna cable is loose

Or just not plugged in

[sudden imp]

What is this on top of my keyboard ( IOS)

[unkempt lake]

In what app

Generally its just to go up and down a line and close the keeb in some apps

[frozen ingot]

I've had the wifi softlock itself as well, like it would just stop working and the only way to get it working again is to reboot the OS

[unkempt lake]

Sounds more like a crappy network card to me

[frozen ingot]

in some cases the hardware was likely contributing yes

[iron wave]

This is why I told them putting an OLED screen on a dashcam was stupid.

[frozen ingot]

but like this is a recurring theme with a lot of windows sub systems or what to call them, they work for most part but the weird windows jank behaviour never fully goes away

[drowsy bough]

So I just got the wooting 80he zinc white keyboard, but I have a black desk, with a black monitor. All my other keyboards have been black, so I’m a little skeptical, does anyone know if that’s a good thingy? Idk

[frozen ingot]

and sometimes you need to get in under the hood and poke around and clean up in one of its many registries

[sudden imp]

Ah Reddit and a few other websites do this. Oh question btw what was the issues you found using brave for YouTube? I’m looking at both safari and brave trying to spot the differences lol

[unkempt lake]

Do you like the way it looks

Thats what matters

[unkempt lake]

You been trying vinegar?

[sudden imp]

Going to

I’m a freak and watch several
Videos before buying something that’s even 2 dollars 😭

[drowsy bough]

Yes, I think it will be a good contrast, but it hasn’t come in yet

[sudden imp]

Serious OCD type shit

I also need to reset my Apple ID cause I got signed out

So I’ll be heading to the Apple Store soon

[drowsy bough]

Dang

[sudden imp]

yep…

@unkempt lake not sure if you saw the above

[charred nexus]

from what I see the "different version" is just older releases?

[charred nexus]

yeah I know, cuz my last board, also from Asus, needs drivers for BT and WIFI

but I never really bother to install them until I need to use it at some point

[frozen ingot]

yeah in some caseds it ain't even nescessary either so hard to really fault the user for that

[pastel galleon]

for the steam controller, does it require steam to be installed on a device for me to use it? (if anyone found info on this)

[crimson wigeon]

Yes else it'll just be stuck in lizard mode forever (where it'll just be arrow keys and a mouse)

[royal geode]

im about to order the wooting v2 with a aluminium case does anyone know if that case comes installed on the wooting or if i will need to do it manually?

[acoustic harbor]

If you buy the prebuilt it comes installed

[royal geode]

i cant find the prebuilt ones...

[acoustic harbor]

Keyboards, wooting 60he v2

Order now

[royal geode]

oh yeah yeah but if i want one of these do those come assembled? or is it the same thing