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500 bucks for a 1440p 240Hz oled is pretty damn good
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this one better
what abt curved, any downsides to those
just preference but generally you only want curved if you go ultrawide
as long as you have a big enough desk you can push it back further and have the exact same experience as a 27" - plus it's all relative there are players who have their face 10cm away from the screen and some that keep it an arms length+
yeah usually I keep arms length and a half away from the screen when I play games
people just get use to what they use before 27" became normal people were struggling to adapt from 24" because that was the norm for a long time
also ngl, 32 inch 4k is so nice, very good for multitasking
@sullen bear @umbral heron Did the memtest86, 1 ram failed with 10K plus errors, and 1 passed :D so that means theres 1 faulty ram and my MOBO and CPU are fine right?
the errors follow the faulty RAM module when you swap slots as well?
test ram modules and isolate the slots
what
because if the error follows the RAM module, it is a RAM module fault, if the errors stay on the same channel but doesnt follow the RAM module, then its a motherboard/memory controller fault
i was told it didnt really matter considering that the whole build is brand new lol, so its kinda hard to messup 1 socket
i tested both RAM in the same slot
so error follows the RAM module?
1 failed seperately and then we connected the 2nd one in the same slot
and the 2nd one had no errors
i didnt let my gf test her 4th ram slot since shes already pissed for some reason
so i skipped that
but ion think thats the issue
I would like to say faulty RAM module then yeah
before i ran both ram sticks at the same time and halfway through it would say the test failed on memtest so i think it finished 1 and the other had all the issues eitherway i got RMA/DOA rights so i told her to send the RAM back and just receive brand new ones
yeah probs, i dont think the Mobo or the CPU is damaged considering i assembled the whole build carefully myself
could be RMA DOA
you'll never truly know lmao, i've had brand new CPUs and motherboards come in non functional
but its unlikely, she got high fps and no issues with other stuff other than ram related programs/functions considering the minidumps
lol ofcours
it can still happen fs
same with ram being unlikely to be delivered faulty but yet here we are XD
i did test the CPU tho, temp was normal and performance aswell
no other issues w that
nice
Its 660ā¬
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Alkaline batteries really suck.. Leaky pieces of shit..
Nimh anyday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCrKGY9F1o goly fuck this is bleak
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AMD spent its time at the Consumer Trade Association's CES tradeshow talking with the US Government about AI data center projects, talking with B2B partners about its server racks and solutions (like Helios), and ignoring the existence of its AMD Ryzen 9850X3D CPU that it literally...
just pure nonsense and then also some tech goebbels
AI AI AI
i cant
@analog sinew .ai summarize this video 
Grokh is this true
Grok what are the nuances in this video
one of the fuckers legit brought ai slides and thought that was somehow cool
maybe it was novel in 2023 lmao
you can summarize the AMD shitshow
you cant for this one
i watched this for like a min and went āwhat the fuck is he sayinā
AI
Idk what Steveās issue is tbh both AMD and Intel launched all they had for consumers and then have the extra talk about what investors want to hear.
Unlike nvidia where Jensen did only jerk off data center stuff ai for the entire keynote
intel presentation was nice, though they copied notes from nvidiaās 2024 presentation
lisa su copied jensenās homework 1:1
We saw mi455 which is cool and even zen6 sever which is a preview for client as well
Maybe a weird question but is it fine to stop the testing of ram when it already passed 3/4 tests cuz its already been tested 3 times
My gf accidentally ended the testing but it shows literal dead zero errors, the other ram-stick had 3000 errors after every test out of the 4
if you want a reference i usually tested ram with unlimited runs continually for 8hrs at my old job
Yeah we not doin allat tbh
We did 4-5hours of running memtest
We just gna retour the ram sticks under DOA and seenif the new ones will work
The longer the run the more accurate it is, a shorter one usually is usually fine if thereās a lot of issues like on the other stick
But generally if you donāt OC you donāt need to do overnight runs to check
I mean heās the guy from OpenAI so makes sense. But itās also funny because you can see Lisa almost wants to cut him off and basically is like āsure I donāt believe what you say but keep buying and shilling our hardwareā
You could see the same when Lisa took a shot at Microsoft when she said the npu is using a lot of space so you it better be useful 
it makes sense but it's also just so insignificant. Everyone knows AI can make powerpoint slides
whyeven bring it up it is just pathetic
Idk if thatās one point in the 200 blah blahs he says why focus on it
i just found it funny
If anything itās better than the shit videos they showed that were generated
At least the slide was seemingly accurate
Also someone just needs to tell people ces doesnāt stand for consumer anymore, they did do a rebrand last year itās just the word CES now and not an abbreviation
they really did? lol
still doesnt change that people would expect it to be that lol
Yeah I feel thatās fair for people but if you make content and talk about it you should be aware of it at least xD
Like people should still want consumer details but if the show changes you canāt solely blame it on the companies to adjust then
love the idiocracy clip
I dont OC, rams are factory standard settings. And 1 run did 4x the test so i assume its accurate enough if u did 3 instead of 4 and it had 0 errors
And the other had 10k issues after 2 runs
is windows 10 better than 11 or should i just switch to linux jwiqwjenwudieksns
11 is mostly the same
Depends
Win11 has slightly better performance and hdr than win10, but the updates seem to be unstable, the latest one 25h2 seemed to add stutters to tarkov
I think linux is more stable with some games running betrer, but u cant run some games due to the anti cheat not allowing linux
I mean, this reads like you just have installation of win 10, 11 and linux for different game.
win10 will run out of support and you dont want to keep it connected to the internet with security issues just to have 2 fps more fortnite
thats why there isnt really a big reason to go to 10 if you arent on it and just want to wait till last moment to go to 11 or linux
You either go with 11 or linux
imagine if ai could cure baldness
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the tr- series cases seem very cool. Love how compact they are
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MI455 is extremely impressive
so are the new Nvidia NVL72 full stack turnkey rack got all 6 of their chips refreshed which was unexpected to me.
GPU, CPU, NVLink Switch, NICs, DPUs, and Ethernet controllers were all refreshed
"refreshed" is the keyword there
yeah but they all compound with each other to give a pretty significant performance uplift compared to the previous NVL72 stack
which competitors are still trying to catch up to the GB200 stack
I mean CX-9 for example does 800g just like cx-8 theres nothing new there
thing is with CX8 is that it can only do 800G across 2 ethernet ports but CX9 can do it with just one
Will say Gamers Nexus Steve does get on my nerves from time to time. He does good research and reviews but the way he talks about certain issues pretty cringe and griftery.
if you just plug in one port to CX8 it can only do 400G
yeah but you arent changing the connection in the rack really so it barely does anything
Nah wtf is this
Local bald man
That is what Discord Nitro users pay for? Lmao
pretty sure stickers are free to use on the same discord
accurate lekker v1 behaviour
https://youtu.be/vDeGTsfCpm0 imagine RAM issues 
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What the fuck is he wearing.
Idk
Oh they're fucking frameless glasses. The lenses are just basically invisible. Great Thumbnail work mr. Greg.

looks like hes got one of those eboy nose chains from temu
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i would start crying if that would happen to me rn
real
or sell my kidneys
what could go wrong
Iāve noticed GN has had very little CES coverage
cuz there is nothing to report
Unless you like AI for some reason
I mean there was stuff to report on if you ignored ai but hes was too busy ranting just to rant
^ I mean thereās some cool monitor stuff but I donāt know if he covers that
Lian li has some interesting cases
And m-atx cases seem to be making a comeback
how much do you think it will cost?
Knowing Razer 300 bucks.
did you reserve one? How do i get a role on here? I linked my discord on the wooting website.
you press this button on the hub where you connected discord
thanks
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Unless ai can tuck me in bed at night and proceed to fold my laundry I got no need.
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Question, whatās the difference between surge and grounded, and what is preferred if Iām just generally running my pc?
lol thats not a selector switch. Thats an on/off switch that turns off the whole thing.
Theres LEDs next to "surge protection" and "ground protectection"
Ur awesome, so whatās the difference between the two though? Will the LED just go on one?
the LED for either will be one if its active. Surge protection is for power surges. Ground is if it detects if your curcuit is grounded or not
i mean i heard its literary just random ai stuff
and non consumer products
Because it was a AI datacenter shitshow
Like if im not wrong the most valid was from fkin Dell of all people
ideally both
ground protection is the default of 3 pronged sockets
(if properly connected ofc)
Depending on the pc you should also check the max wattage on this haha
Bro i changed out my whole pc into a new case and psu
Got damn its so quiet and clean now BUT
My pc wouldnt start up anymore i was mad stressing turned out the MB cable was not plugged in correctly š«©š«©š«©š«©
I almost started to tweak cuh
Good news doe the faulty RAM got returned and we are getting new ones
Question what was the RAMās brand

Yeah I have some spare ones here
corsair is good for ram, in the end they all use chips from the big 3 anyways
Theyre nice
Only thing is u need to read well idk if it can harm but theres intel compatible ones and amd compatible ones for EXPO and XMP
thats all just marketing its the same thing
Yeah doesnt matter
Oh really? Good to know
Is there also
Any like genuine reason to use 48 or 64 GB RAM instead of 32?
yeah if you need more ram
What does it exactly improve in competitive games?
do you play tarkov or star citizen?
if you dont need more it doesnt matter
ram capacity is a matter of are you using more than you have? then you need more otherwise you dont
no i just mainly play Fortnite competitively and Valorant competitively, other than that story mode games like Alan Wake and such graphically heavy games other than that not really anyrhing else id say
32gb is usually plenty if you're not a power user
then tbh u dont even need 32 Id say
yea but if alan wake is the most intense game he plays š
I mean there is like 10 games maybe that needs more than 32gb ram
yeah but its nice having the option to open 5 chrome tabs during a game on top
Tarkov 
does anyone have microphone reccs ? i was taking a look at the beacn mic & fifine k688 
#šāpc_gear š
Fifine is really good 
If you have interface already you can also look for Shure SM57/58, same capsule as much more expensive SM7b 
5? Thatās generous
wasn't expecting that much but it's completely fixed from what I can tell
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A bit too sharp in some games imo but it completely removes the ghosting from inspect animations in THE FINALS that preset K had
dlss lowkey a pretty gud selling point for midrange nvidia cards now
it used to have much heavier tradeoffs
but the latest versions is borderline witchcraft
i will never get over the fact the 2060 has an option to use DLSS 4.5 while a 7900XTX dosnt have access to FSR4 readily
Cant wait for dynamic frame gen either to make 1% and 0.1% lows feel better
Dlss 4 was definitely a huge jump in quality
People hate on fake frames but idk man, I hated how they compared 5070 to 4090, but in reality DLSS is always on
I mean its neat but also doesnt do much to use 4.5 on turing when you get lower than native performance
like sure it works but why would you run 4.5 on 20 series xD
its definitely a heavy hitter on turing and ampere
dynamic frame gen def sells it a lot better than static 2-6x options
DLSS and Fake frames are two distinct things though. I don't mind using DLSS or FSR at Quality personally. But fake frames were VERY noticeable in 2077 when I last looked. And the new stuff still has enough that I don't care for it.
Fair, but I see a lot of people calling DLSS fake frames too, or do you mean frame gen only?
I personally just care about the upscaling, donāt use fg
I will start using dynamic frame gen probably
but for now have no reason to use x2 or whatever yet
DLSS doesn't generate frames. It upscales. Frame gen is frame gen (aka fake frames)
same I haven't seen much reason to use FG so far
mostly because my base fps has been gud enough
frame gen still hasnt solved the issue with increased input latency so its still bleh under like 100fps
Yeah I understand, but plenty of people who think upscaling from 1080p to 4k for example is fake
Not my opinion
fake 4k 
I actually prefer DLSS/DLAA over FXAA and TSAA etc
doesnt help nvidia calls it dlss framegen
True - Marketing terms do be marketing.
its better in most cases hands down
dlss no longer is used as the original acronym but just as a term now
They should just call it rtx frame generation
AI AI AI
nice of hw unboxed to do the 4.5 testing with my gpu
It's because they lack native FP8 compute which the transformer models rely on.
AMD is the derp dragon when it comes to upscaling tbh
They really are LMAO
the AI capabilities of the tensor cores in their consumer GPUs is like a literal toy compared to Nvidia 40 or 50 series. Hence why FSR4 uses a hybrid CNN and Transformer model upscaler and FG model which is quite interesting to me.
yeah they're kinda giving away the midrange segment to nvidia as well bc of it
DLSS is useless on 1080p. Steam survey says 52.58% of users use that res, with only 4.93 using 2160p.
the segment where they were ment to compete in
Who enables DLSS in anything below 1440p anyways
soon we will when the games become more demanding but hardware costs too much 
far console gamer
thats the point its starting to become useable at 720p base resolution
still mostly shit but it gets better
ROFL
I mean I still dont use it at 1440p but its becoming more than just a 4k option
Usually I can play 4k native on most games unless it's CBP 2077 with path tracing set to Ultra
most annoying thing though is still that amds frame gen is less intense so so it costs lower compute time and gives you more fps but they still havent fixed it to be paced correctly
Oh really? High key I thought that was a bug at first when I tried it
LMAO
I play at 1440 and don't really see any reason not to use it in every game that supports it now with version 4-4.5
Yeah, Esp since to me at least it looks better than the forced TAA that's AAA titles tend to use
Usually I go to DLAA
yeah dlss/dlaa is probably the best AA option available now
Dlaa crispy
comparable in visual quality to a lot heavier AA types
Quality also nice
without that performance hit
DLAA is a bit heavy but looks so good if you are able to use it
yeah its kinda funny that the first amd fg implementation was better than nvidia has it even now just isn't paced correctly
Yeah, ill probably use it a lot more now in singleplayer games
Yeah, although I remember Nvidia's single FG being super smeary, the pacing I didn't notice as much on Nvidia's implementation. But the smear was really bad
Now it's much improved though
not even that, the time in ms to create the frame is lower on amd so if you compare both at the same base you get slightly more fps/less latency from FSR
Makes sense, they use a hybrid CNN/Transformer ML model
But Nvidia uses exclusively Transformers which is way more computationally expensive
idk if thats the same from framegen since you arent upscaling that
amdās next model leaked
it's funny how much more accurate that is than you probably know
Quin what gpu do you run?
4090
Gotcha, just never knew
Yeah but they still use their house made ML models for the FG, just separate ones from the upscaling ML models.
Although it's kind of impressive that an image generation model can generate a full image in a few milliseconds given previous images in its context window
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Looks like $649~$699 for 512G version 
That's a really good price
In the current market yes
what if market like it is 6 months ago (without the insane price hike on ram)
Then i'd be like ehhhhhh
It's meh
@vapid ruin like i got a 7600x3d, 32gb of ram and a 9060xt 16gb for a similar anount of money in august
mmhm, alright.
For like 975cad which is 701usd
It's not a cube though 
I want me cube 
It's a mini atx board and a small form factor gpu it could be a cube
If i really wanted it to be
hopefully this way dev will have something to optimize for PC. Like if it can do 1080p 60fps on steam machine, then it'll be a nice optimized game for other pc system.
gabecube*
wont be any different from them just using a random 3060 machine
Doubt they'll optimize just for Gabecube but it'll be a decent HTPC/console PC 
hmm, I guess. But there's too many 3060 variant still. Like, it could be 6gb, 8gb, 12gb vram, diff amount of cooling capabilities and such.
doesnt make one bit of a difference
better upscaling crutch on the 3060 
eh not really
upscaling on 1080p is really sad but its starting to become a reality
yeah but that doesnt really matter for a dev machine running targeted base spec?
I hope thats the current price but i doubt it
Old info?
It now(?) says
ā 512GB model: 19,826 CZK (approximately $950 USD, pre-tax)
⢠ā 2TB model: 22,305 CZK (approximately $1,070
Read first comment - their store has inflated prices
Ok.
Steam:
OLED 512GB 569ā¬.
OLED 1024GB 679ā¬.
Smarty:
OLED 512GB = 658,60ā¬
OLED 1024GB = 823,34ā¬
Still higher.
That mean around 17% margin.
Is another comment
Tax is like 21% here so it would cancel eachother out i think
Cuz its the pre tax price
Or its an american on a cz site
It's similar here - 256GB LCD costs 1899 and 512 OLED costs 2599
In store it's 2699 and 3499 respectively 
American on EU site most likely, all stuff in there has VAT
17% margin would mean
19826 CZK / 1.17 = 16945 CZK
Without 21% VAT
16945 CZK / 1.21 = 14000 CZK
Which is about 670 USD
What if: Steamdeck Pro
With AMD Strix Halo or one of the Panther Lake chips
I would love to see something along the lines of that tbh
Omg and a 120Hz screen!!!!
120Hz would eat through battery like crazy 
120Hz OLEDs are very efficient wym?
if you turn them off maybe lmao
I mean, iPad Pro have 120Hz OLEDs and they get excellent battery life
And it's a big OLED display at that
its starting to get better yeah but handhelds arent going to get the good screens for decent prices yet with low volume
granted its not as bad as on laptops where oled kills battery when you look at white excel sheets but its not making it better
I mean, it's a little better with VRR tech but not perfect
Mainly because windows implementation of VRR is not great
For desktop use specifically
Maybe it'll become affordable once Nintendo release a Switch 2 OLED
And/or the rumoured PlayStation handheld if that has an 8" 1080p 120Hz OLED
True, they have the sales volume to convince manufacturers like LG to make custom panels for them
I mean...yeah.
Can't really stop people from doing it on their own systems, but being a global social media platform and providing tools (and not trying to curb the use) comes with consequences.
its crazy that it survived the whole buyout and enshittification anyway
policymakers and companies shouldve responded way harsher
Good
They should ban it worldwide
Despicable the way he continues to recklessly run his social media and genAI without any sort of moderation
That needs to stop
It won't stop it being used of course. But it will at least push it away from the socially acceptable spaces.
razer uses grok for its new gaming ai
Its so cringe
you can ask it how to get better ar games
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I mean, it's a nice way to tell people to not post picture of yourself online if you don't want to be gooned on
The razer booth at ces is just
Can't wait for the first YT videos about how to jailbreak their Razer Gooner Jars and turn it into an adult only desktop thing. 
Peak ai slop
That was always a problem tho
It's just people will ai goon to you instead of just gooning to you
But the result is gooning regardless
Of course, because it's the horny ai
they have an anime girl telling you how to game
if you can use your own AI with it it'll be nice
Yes.. Grok is horny
despite being horny, grok is not good any roleplaying
claude of all model is the best one
grok teach me how to get better at Double D Dinosaur on steam pls
SORRY TURING I JUST REALLY LIKE DINOSAURS WITH DOUBLE DS
OKAY
DONT JUDGE ME
What would mou think
she looks away
It's not even showing up for me, must've disabled the horny stuff on there
I ain't judging, really, just having a bit of fun.
its a meme game
i swear
Like you get to play soccer with dinosaurs with giant tits and muscle cats it's like genuinely the stupidest game i've ever played
i played it while shitfaced drunk and it was the funniest shit ever
Also i murdered someone
In the game
Because in the dating sim section some poopy head disagreed with me on the best dinosaur
what are you talking about
oh
god bless steam filters
real ones for that
I love when a game is silly on the surface but actually has impressive mechanics
Was given to me as a joke and i laughed my ass off
great gag gift
Nvidia: makes dlss4.5 available to all users
Amd: no news about that leaked fsr4 for rdna3 that already works
Thanks amd
Its frustrating how they're radio silent and then go on stage and did the stupidest ai presentation
With stupid rereleases
And a slightly better binned 9800x3d
Tbh i'm hoping for intel to catch up
More competition is what we need
Shouldāve been banned for its obvious foreign election interference.
Amd cpus are imo overpriced atm
imagine thinking foreign interference gets taken seriously
Or conflicts of interest
AMDās best supported consumer GPU is whatever Sony ship in the PlayStation.
AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity 
We let our congress buy individual stocks š
That grok stuff is incredibly dark tho
Built it myself. The strip itself is 1875W total.
Thats quite low I think if you have a 5090 for example š
cuz transient spikes go brr
from what weāve seen from CES so far it looks like they might actually have a chance
I didnāt think Iād see people rooting for Intel again so soon
I mean, 25W base, 80W max turbo, sounds amazing
Then I realized it's a mobile CPU... 
Competition isnalways good
What do you mean, we are talking about a whole surge protectorā¦.
I have the 5070TI, thereforeā¦
Would it still be as bad?
yes granny su $500 for a 8 core cpu in 2026
intel when 4 cores for like years: Fuck intel evil 14nm+++++++++++ meme stagnation
amd when 8 cores for years: i sleep
9850x3d being listed for $550+ is indeed straight out of that book
amd fanboys are just as bad as the intel fanboys
intel also looked at nvidiaās CES 2025 homework and used it this year
amd are the same as the rest of the techbro industry
im not even a amd fanboy my circumstances just led me to have 3 AMD platforms
9850X3D being just 9800X3DT is a joke 
Nvidia ces 2025 at least had the 5090
Igor's peak power analysis shows that the RTX 5090 is capable of excursions as high as 627.5 W for 10 ms to 20 ms durations; as high as 738.2 W in 5 ms to 10 ms durations, as high as 823.6 W in the 1 ms to 5 ms category, and as high as 901.1 W in spikes under 1 ms in duration.
So no, its only for the 5090, not as bad as for the 5070ti
They just increased turbo clock and that's it 
I just get what's best value at the time
eh, even when you take away all the upscaling and framegen tech, Panther Lake is generally better than AMD Strix Halo both in terms of power efficiency and performance.
gaming PC led me to X3D
wanted the cheapest entry to a DDR5 platform-7600X
Open box deal on a laptop that was sufficient for my needs- 8945HS with 32GB ram
I tend to just buy what gives me the most value, don't care about brands or labels
not to mention even if we bring FSR to the table RDN3.5 slop cant even use fsr4 and fsr3/3.1 looks worse than xess2.0
i mean you can run fsr4
Its just... not official
With a leaked dll
But it works great
yeah, I hope that Nova Lake can bring the same big improvements that Panther Lake does.
if the intel core ultra prices came down earlier or didnt start at that absurd price I wouldve already gone arrow lake instead of the 7600X just for how good it is
But amd just sits there and doesnMt give a shit
amdās job being done by 3rd party peeps smh
been on a 7600x for little over a year
Like why do i have to use optiscaler and a leaked dll to get better fsr in my rdna3 gpu it's frustrating
derpy ass dragon compared to xess and dlss being file based LOL
i guess my poor little 7900xtx just didn't deserve it ):
I'll say i'm stillreally happy with it
amd never misses the opportunity to miss a good opportunity
But it pisses me off to see amd sit on their asses
I'm still on my 5950x from 2021
Why are motherboards so awful now š
Proton just accepts one environmental variable to load it automagically 
AMD is the definition of a fraud, smh
rn Intel is the joker card in the room
Nah they just let their fans overhype themselves
I would still wait for Nova Lake because nova lake will have both P cores and E cores support the same instruction sets which should solve the whole OS scheduler issues that Intel has been having with their more recent architectures.
what's wrong with the current motherboards
Price/feature wise? I mean i personally got a decent board for cheap but yeah it's kinda insane how much less features you get for the price now
novalake novalake novalake
Lack of features for the price mainly
except for assrocks assassin boards
yasssss
There's not a single board that can run a GPU at full speed + an x8 card
Unless you go tr or Xeon w
What 8x card do you even need tho
Various
But also i get that its annoying
Old SSD, nics
I bought an x670e over an x870e because i could actually run 4x nvmes lol
I run a riser that allows me to plug in multiple into a slot
To run a card at full speed you still need PCIe 3.0, even with 5090
x16+x8 is easily achievable on PCIe 5.0 
Old ssds i have just enough sata ports
weāve had zen+5%, get ready for zen +6% chance of a good imc 
Pcie 3 is fine tho
Achievable but not available
Legit not really a perf drop
Sure is 
I won't change from my PCIe 4.0 mobo 
5.0x4? Ez pz
2.0x8 get rekt
cant wait to see amdās next gpu strat to be RDNA 5% marketshare
If only there was 9080XT 
My x570 has 4.0x8 from chipset at half bandwidth, but I can still run a 3.0x8 device at full speed or a 4.0x4 device at full speed in the same slot
If someone could do a 5.0x8 slot at half bandwidth I'd love it
Or a 5.0x16 at quarter, that be even cooler
or even better a 9090 XTX
but, only in my dreams
9999 XTX3D Pro Max
lmao
I have a 6990 and a 7990,the 8990 exists already, why not the 9990
their next gpu strat is: every dgpu is actually just a reused die from another segment 
im not kidding btw, if they care about dgpu will be shown by if we get a die thats only used as dgpu
if they dont we wont get the second biggest die
Question just built my first pc, my CPU temps HEAVILY jump, the highest it went was 66 but I feel thatās pretty high, how can I cool this more?
66 is normal under load depending on the cooler.
Tryx Panorama AIO
So 66 is good?
What is a number it hits that I should be worried about the Temp?
Use the PC, like properly in a game and log the temps.
If its close to the sun in temp u can worry
Alright, I just downloaded all my softwares, Iāll need to download a game when Iām home.
Thank you for your input.
no 12V high failure connector tho pls
3x 8 pins and 3x displayport
Prime OC variant would be sick
i been using 12pin and i had no issues

I remember an old 2080 Ti having 3x 8pin connectors it was ridiculous
although there was a 5090 engineering sample that had 4x 16pin connectors
which was even more ridiculous
this is wrong btw, panther lake isnt better than stxh gpu performance
that was wccftech being the usual stupid and still doesnt know cp2077 doesnt apply framegen settings correctly so stxh had no framegen and ptl has framegen active
it has a bigger gpu than regular strix and scales to more power but not 30% above stxh
I said without upscaling and FG?
yeah and without those its not better in terms of performance
huh
the only report where ptl beats stxh is wccftechs cp2077 bench where they had the wrong settings
I didnt look at what wcc put out so I dont know what their performance figures look like
but i'll trust what you say about them
I just assumed you got it either from them or reddit using their numbers since it was the only case
Not as good as
Iāll be here all week, tip your waiters
https://youtu.be/nxu_tRpgDQg?si=eM6omvETOr4C6nXo
is the āstripeā and āblack shieldā technology ASUS exclusive technologies?
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no the darker coating is what they all have with the new panel just different names
What about the clarity thing or will that be applicable to all new WOLEDS
you mean the subpixel layout so theres no text color fringing?
Yeah
I assume itās all just marketing points by ASUS. Will LG release a version with this panel?
Stripe RGB layout*
yeah, likely under their Ultragear house brand
theyre making 2 panels actually, one 27 inch panel and one 34 inch ultrawide
with the RGB stripe WOLED
wooo
This is amazing
Would it be searchable at the moment or unlikely as itās all still in production?
once people are back from ces there will be more articles with release dates and such
there are already model numbers
yeah but its hard to find details on what launches when in which region
always a couple of days wait after ces and its easier to find
yeah but you can look here to get like a general idea of what will come out https://www.lg.com/us/discover-ultragear-evo-monitors
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they're kind of changing the naming a little for 2026 though
they're calling them "UltraGear evo AI"
urgh of course
the ones with the RGB stripe tech are the ones with "4th Gen Primary RGB Tandem OLED"
although LG in their marketing material also refers it to "Tandem WOLED"
the worst part is that they added the AI part because they are doing AI upscaling at the monitor level on these
you can turn it off, but its there I guess?
Uh nice, now we have something questionable like 400hz TV back then
this with a screen this big
Bro is literally smelling the pixels
Bro when told not to sit too close to the screen
his eyes gonna be so square
Man bro
I tried enabling XMP right, set my sped at 120.00 (Gigabyte Terms: 6000MT/s cause it was running 4800MT/s, now my debug light says 0d, and it wonāt even boot anymore unless I clear CMOS and Iām clueless on wth CMOS even isā¦
what did you set to 120? not usually a ram timing in that value range
your mobo manual has a clear cmos switch or remove the battery and power from the psu then hold the powerbutton for a few seconds to make sure all electricity has discharged
you need to clear your bios
either jumper, switch or remove battery or sth
also idk why you set it to 120
Jesus what the hell are these naming schemes
all i did to get 6000 on ram on a gigabyte motherboard was enable xmp/expo and didnt touch anything else 
because thats what youd usually do
literally just select the ddr-6000 profile in xmp and youre done
So on my X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 i clicked system memory multiplier, because I didnāt see memory frequency or DDR5 frequency, and it gave me options like 1.0-120.0
I know it sounds weird, but thatās what appeared when I clicked it.
Sob
I need to stop listening to chatgpt
So, now what do I do, my only option is clearing CMOS?
ah yes chatgpt my way through bios instead of youtube tutorials 
yes... yes you do
yes
again check your manual of the motherboard or do what i explained earlier
Listen I tried techsource I just couldnāt understand
setting the multiplier to 120 means 100mhz x 120 which comes out to 12000mhz or 24000MT
memory multiplier is Ć100hz so you tried to set it to 12000hz
Oh wow
Okay, so clear cmos, once that is done just enable xmp?
clear cmos and then enable an xmp profile
you should also see a frequency it gives you
multiply frequency by 2 to get MT
literally better than 6000
Then it said that would be overly high and wouldnāt boot
So of course I listenedā¦
Alright, you guys are amazing, thank you for your help. Iām clueless on my first build.
next time please ask real people with pc knowledge
not a child crammed into a pc program calling itself intelligent
Agreed, discord is my go to nowā¦
prob actually best to not trust anything ai says. not just the pc stuff
B-b-but big tech is saying it's amazing!!
xmp usually even picks out the right one
yeah ikr
Btw ducky the Macintosh SE did not work when I plugged it in so the project is back burnered for now. Gotta put together a cap discharger š
rip
I think itās the power supply cause almost nothing happened which is⦠the worst possibility š
https://youtu.be/mFG3Ah-zf18?si=B0p9T3UKvpM_p1Ux
I feel like itās beating a dead horse at this point. We all know itās bad but I want to see case reviews, not constant reminders of how terrible of a state the pc market stands in the economy.
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Can some1 help me my Wooting is not working after an failed Update.
Did it thanks
reset cmos entirely, and just go in and select DRAM profile and either any EXPO or XMP one thats 6000. Save changes and exit, call it a day. Dont touch anything else
Look at the back of ur mobo for any āclear cmos buttonā or youād need to go find a circular cmos battery on the mobo (refer to google and mobo manual)
or just dont touch it at all if you dont know what you are doing!!!!
its funny he put a 120x multiplier or something
holy fuck
thats some ddr7 ram heās trynna achieve right there
gigabyteās bios is hella roundabout more than asrock ngl
smh why cant they just stick with the default AMI interface and call it a day
literally zero reason to modify the AMI BIOS configuration interface LMAO
gigglebutt on their way to put a whopping 2 USB on lowend motherboard models and complicate their entire bios:
its not even their bios lmao, they all use AMI
if he chose XMP 7000 it wouldve put him in gear 2 which is slower anywhere
yeah
also imagine if that was the voltage instead of some other parameter? LOLLLLL
we gonna send this RAM to the moon by adding a +120 to RAM voltage

ah yes 2v ram

theres people running ram at like close to 1.9v but thats just dedication
Iāve seen someone be running 9200 CL36 1.83v daily
Lemme guess, Core i9 14900K
Back when I had my 14th gen i9 I ran it at 8000MT/s most of the time
nah 285K on the Asus Z890 maximus apex
Ah, impressive for a series 2 cpu
not really
No the fact that it's stable lmao
Fair but still
then again ram running at 1.83v surely isnt fun for it
No deffo not
They will be running quite hot under load
Since the gpu would be blowing hot air onto them and whatnot
I also have a ram fan but Im not exceeding 1.5v due to my shit bin
Lel
well, partially it bcs its ayymd
My kit is 1.4V but I don't have any temperature issues on my memory
2x48GB DDR5-6000
you only need a fan when ur in the 1.5V range
I'm chillin then
upwards of 1.5V is where a fan is needed to maintain temperature stability
that's great to know
Quite affordable https://www.hackster.io/news/seeed-studio-s-epaper-kits-go-big-with-a-13-3-e-ink-spectra-6-six-color-panel-f75f81290c29
My friend's 14900K died
We are gonna get a 9800X3D and an X870 Tomahawk and assemble the build
Hey guys, I have a question. Is there any way to do a profile switcher connected to a program? So instead of a keyboard combination I just run the program and it switches to the profile that connected to? Any way to do this?
It's in the works via our background service.
amazing
https://github.com/ShayBox/Wooting-Profile-Switcher in the meantime you can use this 3rd party tool someone made, maybe it works for your needs
I'll have a look, thank you very much.
I think the most recent firmware update broke this? Unless they already patched it.
sadness
what exactly did the firmware change? this tool doesnt look so complicated so it might be patchable
Shay posted about a month ago in #š¤ācommunity_dev about whether or not they should update their codebase with respect to the background service, but nothing broke as far as I know
Someone made a post a few days ago saying it was borked iirc. Needed to rollback one version (on the board)
Oh I missed that then
@coral sapphire i saw that 
do you need help
Yes, just one question, when they said the recommendation is 6000MT/s, but Iām put on 7000MT/s am I still able to change my DRAM frequency?
Or should I boot up normally with 7000MT/s?
Enable XMP, stop overthinking
Your cpu wonāt be able to do 7000
Well, it can but at a bad ratio so you will have much worse performance so stick to 6000
your ram kit should have a setting it is rated to listed
sth like 6000 38-18-18-26 or something
and your mobo should have a corresponding xmp profile if it does not automatically load
heres it on my pc
you dont want to adjust only the transfers
the subtimings matter too
so its a whole profile not just freq
consult your mobo manual or tell us the make again
and the ramkit you have aswell
If you have a 7000 Kit you just water money and have to set it to 6000
But if you have an x3d CPU you can basically ignore it anyway
pretty sure they said it was a 6000 kit
Ah
https://fixupx.com/TheBobPony/status/2009757112793215399 oh no MicroSlop
Microsoft has finally listened to its... business users.
ļøļøWindows 11 Beta and Dev insider build 26220.7535 has a new group policy to remove Microsoft Copilot app.
ļøļø
ļøļøHowever, there's a catch...
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ļøļø- Microsoft Copilot app was not installed by the user
ļøļø- Microsoft Copilot app was not launched in the last 28 days
ļøļø- Users can still reinstall the Copilot app
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ļøļøThis new policy is located in Group policy, can be found in User Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows AI -> Remove Microsoft Copilot App.
It's something
Yeah
EU stirs yet again
Yeah, not giving up my work MacBook any time soon.
https://github.com/zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI but ppl already did it anyway
We love github
Wish I could have that for my phone š
Disables all AI features, internal search still somehow AI based
Apple Intelligence and Siri might be ass, but at least theyāre very easy to disable. 
I donāt think I even needed to disable it since it wasnāt enabled to begin with
but seems like it might be opt out now instead
My friend was asking me to say āHey Siriā
I did and nothing happened
He looked at me like its not my phone and I didnt choose to disable it 
People are saying that Steam Frame is DOA because there was a new one announced by another company with higher resolution....
Resolution really is not the only factor behind a VR headset lol
are these people in the room with us
Theres one from Linus' channel Short Circuit
Just one month after he said that the Frame will kill the competition
quest 3/4 pico 4/4 ultra is the competition
not to mention the short circuit video isnt even saying it so we have lana getting clickbaited by headlines into making even worse clickbait discord posts...
so people arent saying it anywhere
āPeopleā
Which ones
Who?
Why is Google sponsoring Gnome desktop??!
Same reasons all the others do?
Specifically Google uses their own debian testing based distro which runs gnome.
Gnoogle sponsoring Gnome
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Quite a big difference from what I see
ChromeOS is Fedora, is it not?
Not really relevant here, is a bout what employees use, but ChromeOS is Gentoo based.
also good news, you can revert your wooting firmware simply by going back to stable wootility and going to the update settings, you get the option to revert your devices there :D
I just reverted my 60he and UwU
(it does undo all your settings and profiles though)
thats news? I was using beta firmware for the lekker edition at points and just reverted back afterwards
I was previously told I would have to wait until the next stable to get back to stable firmwarew
Reminds me that I have not opened wootility in quite some time.
Ew one big turd let on that ui, welp have not used it in over a year so no big deal.
I just use the website cause its the most useful
Did but went but it refreshed to 5.something and now the normal mode is gone, just has the edgelord theme (dark theme) 
That said no big deal general idea with these is set and forget most of the time, unless I want to play with analog
Steam Machine leaks apparentlyt estimate the price to be 980 dollars....I highly doubt that
the leaks are from some random Czech store
@ashen spindle Intel ER in 12 days
no those are not the steam machine prices... jfc read more than new headlines please
Placeholder store pricing for a store that resells valve stuff at a markup, not an official partner of any kinds.
There is no leak here, just a price the store knows they won't loose money on.
Yeah.... I know that site sells Decks that are like 30-40% more expensive š
So there you have it, you already knew it was not noteworthy
if you know, then why do you say the estimate is at the higher check price..
meh ER wont mean much this and next quarter for amd/intel
at least from a product site which is what I care about
It will show if the FAB side has become profitable or not
which is what im most interested about
Doesn't matter much tho, its a ramp up game
Still I predict 10-20% jump if somehow the Fab is already generating positive FCF
I dont think even in their own best case scenario they are profitable yet
It jumped 10 % yesterday from orange guy tweet lmao
if 2026 can make it back up to 2024 stock that would be good for them
Intel Foundry in my opinion will only be successful if they can get customers to design on 18A and 14A
Apple, apparently.
If they can't find customers Intel foundry wont ever be profitable unless they massively downscale their operations
Although seemingly only for chips to use in budget/affordable products.
apple isnt doing anything on intel, at least not in what was reported as leak
at some point maybe but the current apple on intel rumors would mean they would regress in their chips which they are not going to do
They need more than just Apple as a customer
They will for sure
Yeah, and it doesn't help that TSMC's other fab is literally just across the city from their own fab site that is making 18A
you do realize they are putting basically the same tech there?
18A is mostly comparable to N3P on tsmc side
TSMC haven't begun any full production of N3P in their Arizona fab just yet though, I think that has been scheduled for 2027 last I checked? Unless they changed it.
18A is better and 18AP even more so, which will likely get atleast a few customers
18A is not better, it's N3P at best and 2 years later
with production start for intel now and external customers even later
so at best for intel it has a 3quarter start to be in arizona for that
N3P lacks bspd
so? a feature doesnt make it better if the rest isnt there
bspd is part of the reason its even competing with N3P and not N3B
Does TSM Arizona even have advanced packaging or does it need to send it back to TW?
Intel has both on mainland US
That kind of doesn't matter when 18A can't match the transistor density that TSMC's latest node can achieve.
doesnt matter most people dont package on 3rd party OSATs like Amkor
Which is N2 methinks
even CoWos was licensed out to OSATs so people dont need to do that at tsmc anymore
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Rust is as bad as NPM I swear.
And TSM has any on US soil?
If not its a bottleneck for them
no?
2-5 month wait time
why would it be a bottleneck if it happens after production
gg
you never move produced chips into the next machine to package instantly
neither intel nor tsmc do that
Yeah that never ever happens, usually the finished dies get sent to separate very specialized facilities where they are assembled and put onto a substrate.
Like for panther lake, the IO die still comes from TSMC
You don't see an issue if someone orders dies from TSMC Arizona, they get sent back to TW for packaging, sent back to US for sales? Vs Intel doing on both US soil and if sales are on US soil?
it doesnt get sent to TW
Where then
OSATs usually sit in malaysia or similar
Look, thats literally the same thing time wise
Yeah, iirc TSM's TW fab is literally only producing their latest nodes
Yeah same shit.. Wait times are epic
packaged in malaysia for ages
lol no
its entire factories set up only for packaging
No, usually these things get shipped via overnight air
Cost & margins
Because production schedules are super tight
Worth eating the cost most of the time
amkor has fabs in arizona too btw
Like I said, production schedules are tight for these things
TSM Arizona cant eat the margins because they have shit margins with US salaries
ergo utterly worthless fab
there, nothing outside US needed
If they do it there that's one issue tackled for sure.
hi
oh also, PTL shows that its even worse than N3B in some parts, the cpu clocks lower on panther lake than the N3B arrow lake cores
can't wait for the first of these things to melt 
this just looks like a shittier version of TG WireView Pro 2
shrug
Very cool of Rtings to put a ton of their content behind an account/paywall requirement š
isnt it just a earlier preview and its free after x weeks?
clear cookies, read more! 
About that
Cloudflare got a 14 million euro fine
For?
Refusing to filter pirate sites
By AGCOM
Cost of doing business I guess
we like money
yes the numerical scores are also locked for me
And i dont remember the last time i used rtings's website
So
You can at least read the stuff you just can't see the numerical score
Its so dumb
They literally have ads on the websote
Yet try to charge people for this shit
I mean I get locking early access behind a subscription
since they have quite high running costs
This shit's old tho
but that review is over a year old now
maybe nobody cares for audio reviews 
I mean
Seems like it's this way for the soundbar and printer categories
it is a soundbar
Other categories arent locked out it seems
yea simple answer for soundbars is: do not buy
But everythibg soundbar and printer is
just because a product doesn't mean your need doesn't mean it can't be good for someone else
maybe they realized those categories make them loose more money than they earn
soundbars kinda suck for everyone tho
They can just stop reviewing them then
someone with limited space and who wants a soundbar
Which is... a significant number of people
you mean someone with limited space
I mean maybe the people with subscription want them
"people who want a soundbar" probably made their purchase decision already
but for 800⬠you can get INSANELY good hifi setups
at least those are "free"
so I can't knock them
There's cheap soundbars
they're ok, i just play my switch on there and watch the odd movie
Here and there
can't complain about free, with modern TVs they also tend to not be absolute ass so I really can't complain
Good - Send that shit to the EU for a broader debate. This is a classic slippery slope of just blindly following government lists.
adding that Cloudflare is linked to roughly 70% of the pirate sites targeted under its regime.
What a bizarre conclusion to make š
I would argue you can go even cheaper for decent soundbars
was added in the latest preview update
I'm to traumatized by
I forgot the version
That everyone said we were crazy about being bad
That's the one
it was awful
You have to do that via usb right
literally
Mine still only offers 24h2
mine did that and i hit check updates and it offered 25h2 so
I see
i was stuck troubleshooting my brother and my dad's systems because of this shit
And my brother's gf's systems
all magically resolved by... downgrading to 24h2
And i was like fuck it im not updating to that shit on any of the pcs in my home
With every XXhY I have to download the windows installer, which then upgrades windows to the latest
Ye the installer is what I meant
Was never offered them via windows update somehow, really strange
do i delete it
or i gotta switch da value
can i blow it up instead?

Enemy slotted
worth the risk?
lol no
He says itās broken in the description lol
No absolutely not
No display out on a gpu is very hard to diagnose
Let alone fix with standard tools
If you have to askā¦
Any of you know much Jellyfin? There is an ffmpeg command that fails (illegal argument) that works on my Arch box with the same media.
That dude got scammed.
only 50 tho
I'd haggle that to 25 bucks since there is no display out
the price should be what you are willing to pay for the fun of tinkering with it
jokes on you it'll reinstall with the next update
the argument is illegal it will land you in jail 
did you check the versions of the client?
LETS GOOO
W
welcome back windows 10
Removing bloatware, telemetry and ai copilot made windows 11 faster and used less ram storage
went from 6.3 gb usage to 2.9 gb
How did you remove all that garbage?
there are tutorials in youtube
make sure to watch the latest 2025 tutorials
basically u just have to go to github and install the Win11Debloat
Even my visual studio is the no telemetry fork
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Uhhuh, sure
shouldve happened years ago
Something something user friendly OS 
It's FFMPEG that's mad.
did you check ffmpeg version and whats compiled into it
my ffmpeg version between windows (where i just download precompiled full) and my wsl/server where i use a script i wrote to custom compile
AAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SteamOS on the Steam Frame will also be modifiable :D
š¤ it also shows up as an Android device if you plug into into a computer, so you can run ADB on it
I think we are currently in the phase of getting commentary to a random youtube video and then maybe a response after its done
after the android thing thats what i also concluded
not that anything so far has been surprising or news worthy imo
Oh, you can ADB to Lepton, not to SteamOS 
So it basically runs Android in container to run apks, cool 
Yeah, still neat though :D cause Ive tried Waydroid and its so finnicky
makes sense, it uses a mobile chip on a mobile XR platform
Don't think of Waydroid as emulator like BlueStacks but more like a Docker for Android apps 
Just sucks that it doesn't really have input emulation/injection like emulators do, you have to rely on 3rd party apps for example to map keypresses to screen touch 
bro i just wanna buy a headphones and all of reddit is just audiophile arguing
Yeah, if you want to buy something don't go on Reddit 
ok not all of reddit to be fair
just a few and one guy gatekeeping being an audiophile for some reason
i do really love nothing's design tho
just looking at their website makes me inspired
they make some beautiful products
Real
Reddit does? 
Reddit communities are certainly a place
nothing, the tech company
reddit's website makes me feel like a school counsellor
Yeah, the white ones look really cool 
do they say the headphone isn't tuned good enough?