🔌│tech

[tribal dirge]

aka their WX threadrippers

[iron wave]

Yeah.

[tribal dirge]

even more cores and even higher boost clocks

[iron wave]

It's weird how hard it is to source them from reputable sources.

Double the memory channels!

[tribal dirge]

iirc there was one LTT video of them demoing a 9995WX with a 2000W power limit

it was insane shit

the cpu peaked at 1900W which is absolutely insane

[iron wave]

I just want make -j -l 384.

[tribal dirge]

LOL REAL

[umbral heron]

Supernova in your room

[iron wave]

That's half of my car.

[frozen ingot]

fancy car

[iron wave]

30K is cheap.

[frozen ingot]

most impressive thing is the cooling needed for those cpus

[tribal dirge]

why is someone auctioning off a 9995WX, LMAO

they should just sell it to a company, these are so hard to come by

like a big company would gladly pay like 40k for that cpu

[tribal dirge]

notice how theyre china sellers too

LMAO

[iron wave]

Yeah it's weird.

AMD doesn't want you to have these.

[tribal dirge]

its not meant for consumers thats why

if you want to order these you need to do it via a B2B vendor

[iron wave]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-penguins-of-smile-and-gif-19120736

[tribal dirge]

also they expect you to buy a fully assembled system with 9995WX, not individual CPUs LMAO

[iron wave]

I hope I can get a better paying job next year.

[ashen spindle]

amd doesnt want you to have them beacuse the market it almost dead and they dont want to bother

[iron wave]

But like, if it was dead they wouldn't sell and they wouldn't make them.

[ashen spindle]

they are making them beacuse its just chiplet reuse and existing contracts

also its gives you free PR

[iron wave]

What's the highest end one they let me buy, only the one Microcenter sells?

[ashen spindle]

lenovo is >50% marketshare for threadripper sales and they only sold like 30k worldwide

[iron wave]

I mean, it's not going to be high volume in the first place.

30K sounds like a success.

[ashen spindle]

im trying to find the slides but I think it was 30k since TR launch

not per year

[tribal dirge]

yeah dont they use the same CCDs across almost all their current gen desktop CPUs?

[ashen spindle]

server+ desktop

desktop is basically server leftovers in a way

[tribal dirge]

oh yeah, Epyc processors use them too

its very different from Intel

Intel still sticking with the monolithic die or tiled design

[ashen spindle]

uh, either its monolithic or tiled it cant be both at once lol

[tribal dirge]

meant to say 'or' yeah, 'and' is not a very good word LMAO

[ashen spindle]

the only monolithic intel chips are low end mobile ones

just like amd

they just dont use the same tiles for server and desktop

[tribal dirge]

yeah, like their celerons and duos

[tribal dirge]

I see

makes sense

allows them to take advantage of multiple fabs too

like they can make their compute core silicon at intel foundry and the I/O silicon at TSMC, etc.

[iron wave]

Zen C is interesting.

AMD64 little cores done better than Intel.

[tribal dirge]

yeah, their little cores are pretty good

[tribal dirge]

Intel 18A might change that because they have better efficiency gains when it comes to power delivery. more specifically backside power

[iron wave]

AVX 512?

[ashen spindle]

backside power matters for big things like gpu it doesnt matter for low power or idle

yes next gen intel will finally have avx512 back on consumer again

[iron wave]

Part of me wants to play Minecraft with software renderer on a TR.

[iron wave]

Cool.

That's annoying.

[tribal dirge]

why did they get rid of it? was it beause of the little big architecture of alder lake?

[ashen spindle]

pretty much

[tribal dirge]

makes sense

because iirc if you wanted to get AVX512 on alder lake you needed to disable all e-cores

[iron wave]

Maybe I can do some LFS stuff when I get home today.

I still want to successfully bootstrap GCC so I can have a hypothetically validated compiler chain.

[steady sail]

[wheat plume]

🤔 Should I install this?! I already have the AMD drivers from the AMD software and they are up to date....

[warm ore]

No

[wheat plume]

it put the stupid pending update icon into my taskbar .-. ffs

[ashen spindle]

theres no way you're thinking about updates constantly

either always wait or just do them

[wheat plume]

I got a notification that there were updates ready to apply, so I go check and its this AMD update....

and its got the damn yellow icon in my taskbar .-.

so no, i dont think about them until Windows sends a notifications or just randomly reboots to apply them

[ashen spindle]

then just decide on either one

[tribal dirge]

I usually skip the windows feature updates and only update on patch Tuesdays

[ashen spindle]

disable them if you dont want them or just apply them whenever they appear

[wheat plume]

I was asking if I even should apply this one cause its the driver...and seems to be an old version too

[tribal dirge]

if you are sure you already have the latest drivers, I wouldnt bother

[wheat plume]

According to the AMD software, they are up to date

[tribal dirge]

then dont bother yeah

[unkempt lake]

Chipset probably

Version number looks like it

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/no-asus-isnt-going-into-memory-manufacturing-taiwanese-tech-giant-issues-statement-smashing-rumor

@tribal dirge

[ashen spindle]

damn dashi being slower than youtube shorts

[tribal dirge]

lmaooooo

[unkempt lake]

hush

I'm gonna fucking

Put a plastic bottle in the trash instead of the recycling bin

youve been warned

[frozen ingot]

maybe kingston would have the means to tool up for ram production, probably wont though

[tribal dirge]

I doubt it, Storage and Dram are very very different

[analog sinew]

i am going to make ram

openai pls contact and buy it with imaginary money

[tribal dirge]

heck I dont think Kingston even makes their own NAND chips

they buy NAND flash from other manufacturers of NAND chips like Kioxia

[frozen ingot]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3225dm

can pick this up for €230 new from dell atm

[bright briar]

havent used firefox since 2012

it changed so much (good changes)

lowkey conflicted between using firefox or brave now as main browser

[iron wave]

Is Brave Chrome based?

[fair gull]

no its chromium based

[iron wave]

That's an easy choice, Firefox. STOP GIVING THE MATERSHARE TO GOOGLE

[empty wren]

Would that not be more developed choice, since Firefox does have open source components?

[fair gull]

chromium is also opensource

chrome isnt

[gleaming temple]

guys can you help me

i got my new wooding 68he

[fair gull]

we dont have that

[gleaming temple]

oh

[fair gull]

idk what a wooding 68he even is

[gleaming temple]

its a keybord

a great one

you should get it not gonna lie

[gleaming temple]

its like 30 to 40 dollers on amazon'

[iron wave]

Wooting Two is peak.

[gleaming temple]

is it

[fair gull]

i cant even find it

[iron wave]

Same.

[gleaming temple]

type wodding 60he keybord then scrol down and you will find it

its actually 45 bucks

[fair gull]

first you say wooding 68he now wodding 60he

[spiral island]

Both parts of the name changed 😆

Looting 69HE

[gleaming temple]

yup

cause when i typed 68he i did not work

what the heck is a lotting 69he

[sullen bear]

Noone couldve seen that coming!

[iron wave]

What's with people using "noone" instead of "no one"?

[analog sinew]

saves space

[bright briar]

whats your opinion on the two browser tony

sorry for ping

[fair gull]

using zen personally which is firefox based

the only place i use chrome/chromium is my phone cause its preincluded in android

[bright briar]

i see ty for your wisdom tony

[lyric hatch]

I use brave everywhere

Well aside from work I'm using edge there

[bright briar]

currently thats what im doing

but firefox has my interest lowkey

[analog sinew]

at least get a fork

not aislopfox

go waterfox

[iron wave]

I see what you did there but it's harder to read.

[fair gull]

ive been a firefox user for ages until arc (chromium based) did tabs in a way i really like but then did it shit once they went outside mac only (and then stopped updating it beyond chromium updates) and then zen popped up and its basically arc for my beloved firefox

[iron wave]

I've been using Firefox since they added extensions to mobile.

[bright briar]

when was that?

i stopped using them back in 2012

but man definitely changed since then for the better 🙂‍↕️

[iron wave]

I dunno, like when I was in highschool or something crazy like that?

https://mastodon.social/@mhoye/115742732861618099

mhoye (@[e-mail])

To spell this out clearly, the reason RAM has quadrupled in price is that a huge quantity of RAM that hasn't been produced yet has been bought with money that doesn't exist to populate GPUs that also haven't been produced to go in datacenters that haven't been built powered by infrastructure that may never exist to meet a demand that doesn't exist at all to make profit margins that mathematically can't exist while economists talk about this thing they call the "rational markets hypothesis".

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[ashen spindle]

no thats not quite right

the future ram supplies being bought by open ai is something that accelerated the panic and people then rushed to by more

its similar to covid toilet paper prices

[old marlin]

The demand also kind of exists

[ashen spindle]

yesn't the demand exists because people rushed to grab even more

[iron wave]

Does it? It's all demand from it being force fed.

LLM demand that is.

[ashen spindle]

demand was up, then people paniced, bought more than they need and that spiraled

[old marlin]

Yea i mean it allows for larger LLM models

[ashen spindle]

the demand was real but it isn't that big and didnt cause it on its own

[old marlin]

Which is the easiest way to make them "better"

[iron wave]

This isn't normal behavior.

[ashen spindle]

no but it is normal that panic buying makes a slight undersupply worse

[old marlin]

Oh really

[iron wave]

It's awesome that you can't make them more up to date because of all of the generated crap that you'd scrape which would destroy the new models.

[bright briar]

how long ago was that

👀

[iron wave]

Over a decade I think? Not sure what year I graduated I just wanted to get past that.

[iron wave]

Oh dang, the 10 series and older just got dropped?

[frozen ingot]

yeah few months back

[iron wave]

News to me.

[devout notch]

is there a way to revert the beta?\

[maiden steppe]

hello guys

i updated my wooting to the latest version and it doesnt turn on now it doesnt have rgb its not functional

what can i do

[azure otter]

try resetting it

or unplug and replug it in

[maiden steppe]

it doesnt work it feels like i tried everything

[maiden steppe]

how do i do it

[azure otter]

is it detected in wootility?

[maiden steppe]

no

im on the home page

[azure otter]

press initialise

[azure otter]

https://help.wooting.io/article/90-how-to-restore-reset-my-wooting-one-or-wooting-two-flaretech

[maiden steppe]

ye but it says plug it in but i did its not detecting it

[azure otter]

sorry about the delay, wifi isn’t the best over here

[azure otter]

ah

[maiden steppe]

i found the setting but it doesnt allow me to reset it

ig it thinks that i alr did it

[azure otter]

uh

mb i forgot

[azure otter]

@maiden steppe did you try this?

im guessing that’s what you’re trying and it wont let you reset it

[maiden steppe]

yes i watched the video

[azure otter]

idk

[azure otter]

oh

[maiden steppe]

thats what i did

[azure otter]

so uh

@lyric hatch HELPPPPPPP

HEEEEELPPPPPPPP

SOMEBODY HELP ME

[maiden steppe]

done tysm

i was the idiot

[azure otter]

oh im glad you got it figured out

[green bolt]

is the v2 really THAT different from the normal 60he that it is worth buying?

[azure otter]

no

it is a pretty good improvement though

pretty frickin good

[green bolt]

yea but idk if i want to wait a month and spend an extra 100 dollars

[azure otter]

if you have the normal 60he and u dont have money out the wazoo then id stick with the 60he

[green bolt]

i dont

[azure otter]

but i rlly like the v2 so idk

[lyric niche]

Does the 60HE v2 module come with a usb or do I have to buy one separately

[pastel galleon]

id say the only reason someone should upgrade from the v1 to v2, is if you REALLY want that split space bar

and then you reap all the other benefits too

[azure otter]

id get it then

if you don’t have the first 60he

[lunar elm]

ur not getting a whole new experience so i’d say no

[unkempt lake]

A

[latent mural]

Hi

[neat estuary]

What’s the best keyboard kit for modding with the keycap remover and switch remover or is the wooting one the best

[buoyant zealot]

are there specific keycaps for the wooting 60he

[winter patrol]

dunno about best, but this one is nice

[magic minnow]

I ordered it

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[magic minnow]

I hope I like it lol

If not I’ll return it in time for the S26U

Same phone for 5 generations

[raw zephyr]

what is it?

[unkempt lake]

Onepoop

[pale sigil]

I'm actually super impressed by these headphones but man the design is stupid for the case.

No cover at all

[halcyon moss]

Too distracted by those nightmare feul nails

[umbral heron]

Vitamin A mate

[vapid ruin]

You can get a separate case to cover it

[magic minnow]

OnePlus 15

[magic minnow]

Fancy

[wheat plume]

no purple??!!

[magic minnow]

Nu I like how the black one looks

[wheat plume]

I see... xd fair

[magic minnow]

Just saw a video of it looks pretty

[wheat plume]

yeh 😍 I want

[magic minnow]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2025/12/25/anroid-news-headlines-samsuung-galaxy-s26-ultra-honor-win-xiaomi-17-ultra/

[leaden carbon]

wtf is happening im not holding down an key

any

[distant tapir]

Disgusting design

[magic minnow]

I love the cyclops camera modules

[pale sigil]

Money

[wheat plume]

Why the stem so damn bulky and long?

[slow anchor]

any good IEMs for gaming and music?

[vapid ruin]

Better ask in #🌐│pc_gear but you can start with 7hz zero 2.

If you have extra budget (like $300), you can go for kiwi ears astral

[slow anchor]

Alright thanks

[pale sigil]

Because full touch functions etc

And the anc/pass through is on them

[pale sigil]

@neat oriole

All that packaging just for this

[reef patrol]

It's a standard packaging for kickstarters and such.

I have several of these tins with USB sticks with a game or music.

[tribal dirge]

interesting that the dawn 2 pro comes in a tin

not even my JDS Labs Element IV came in a tin LMAO

[pale sigil]

It's now my weed tin

[tribal dirge]

lolz

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/drugs-are-bad-drugs-mkay-south-park-gif-4499796

[pale sigil]

Medication

[tribal dirge]

I am curious to see how warm they get

[pale sigil]

I have a prescription

[pale sigil]

I haven't tested it yet

[bright briar]

drugs are good mmmmkay

[pale sigil]

Been vibing with my anibuds

[tribal dirge]

ah

[iron wave]

US?

Ah, I thought schedule III was less restrictive than it is but you still need prescriptions (federally).

[covert ravine]

mine are worse

[wheat plume]

Oh this is the dac I wanted to get

[pale sigil]

Unfortunately I can't test it as I've lost my 6.5mm adapter

Oh wait nvm

It has two audio outputs

Forgot

[umbral heron]

Given it doesn't have 6.5 that's not a problem

[iron wave]

Big holes.

[pale sigil]

i love web apps

[pale sigil]

4.4mm fite me

[iron wave]

I don't understand the problem with 3.5mm.

[umbral heron]

Smaller, therefore worse

For real though, usually DACs pump more power through 4.4s

[tribal dirge]

Oh the balanced output?

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, usually balanced headphones require more power

So that makes sense

[umbral heron]

mep
it's a side effect of the fact that DAC ICs are cheap and way easier to control in mono mode
So just slap 2 of these, for 3.5 reduce power and connect grounds together, done

[iron wave]

But why? It's not like there is going to be that much loss?

[umbral heron]

I dunno
Check any small DAC, be it Moondrop, FiiO or whatever and they pump like almost twice the power through 4.4

[azure otter]

hey snowy calsy

what dac & amp should i get for my moondrop blessing 3s

idk if i even need an amp im new to all of this

[tribal dirge]

What do you have now?

Just a motherboard output?

[bright briar]

same

right now i just use my motherboard output

[bright briar]

do you recommend getting a dac?

[tribal dirge]

Anything will be better than your motherboard output lmao

If you don't need crazy amounts of power, the Apple dongle is good enough

[bright briar]

fair

im using hyper x mic and hd560s headphones

i might get a new mic tbh

i want to get a dac but idk if i need one

[tribal dirge]

You'd probably want something with a bit more power though and with a mic pass through feature.

[azure otter]

Ye

[bright briar]

do i have to pay a good price for one?

[leaden kiln]

why mic passthrough

[bright briar]

or theres some decent options out there

[tribal dirge]

He wants to also use it with his HyperX headset

[leaden kiln]

he only said he had a mic, assume it's just the hyperx usb mic

[azure otter]

hey ducky

[tribal dirge]

Ouhhhhhh

[azure otter]

should i get the benchmark dac3 hgc

[bright briar]

it is usb yeah

[leaden kiln]

monitoring is kinda nice if you're talking a lot in closed backs but I never use it with open backs

[tribal dirge]

Well in that case, you can probably get away with a Crinear Protocol Max

Has plenty of power to drive headphones on the boost mode

[bright briar]

whats your guys thought on this mic? People say they have a hard time hearing me on my hyper x

[tribal dirge]

Tbh you might be able to get away with the apple dongle because blessing 3 really doesn't need much power to drive.

[iron wave]

I'd check your settings first.

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, usually windows sets your mic gain to 0db

[bright briar]

i did

[tribal dirge]

Usually I've had to add like a +10db gain in most cases

[azure otter]

ok but like

should i get the benchmark dac3 hgc

[tribal dirge]

If you have money to burn, sure

They're nice DACs

[distant tapir]

No

[azure otter]

[tribal dirge]

For me personally I wouldn't go beyond something like a JDS Labs Element IV for a DAC/AMP combo for the things that I do.

[distant tapir]

I wanted their HPA4 for a long time but it's completely pointless to buy now unless you just want a nice looking well-engineered product

[tribal dirge]

Which is why I said if you have money to burn

[dull hollow]

bankai asked to borrow 62k cad for a dac

[azure otter]

can confirm i asked to borrow 62,000 cad for a dac

[dull hollow]

idk who you thought i was

[azure otter]

snore

[distant tapir]

Biggest problem I have with the design is the now outdated display

If this released in 2026 ($3k+) I'd want a higher resolution better screen

[tribal dirge]

That's more than a good enough display tbh

[bright briar]

valid

[tribal dirge]

I'd rather them spend the money on good quality components than a fancy screen LMAO

[leaden kiln]

if you're putting a screen on something that expensive you could at least make it good
probably won't mean they're forced to make the rest of the components worse

[tribal dirge]

It's better than screens on DACs that cost 3x as much LMAO

Heck some have no screen at all!

[distant tapir]

Chord Dave has the worst screen I have seen

And it costs $15 000 or something silly

[leaden kiln]

and they should do better too

[tribal dirge]

Or is it because the screens don't really matter that much?

[distant tapir]

Look at how the edges cut off

[tribal dirge]

I haven't seen any audio engineer really complain about the screens on their DACs of all things

[tribal dirge]

Now that's just bad design LMAO

[azure otter]

snore can i borrow 5100 usd

[distant tapir]

$15 000

[dull hollow]

n o

[azure otter]

i found a dac and amp on sale though

[dull hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/well-that's-too-damn-bad-holes-too-bad-oh-well-suck-it-up-gif-14703423262202948839

[tribal dirge]

LMAO

[dull hollow]

id rather use that 5.1k on a car import fee

[tribal dirge]

I'd use that money to invest in index funds. Lmao

[azure otter]

[tribal dirge]

Gotta grow the money somehow

Inflation doesn't stop for anyone

[dull hollow]

jdms are investments fr

[tribal dirge]

Never treat anything that depreciates over time as an investment, big mistake

[dull hollow]

have you seen the price of old jdms

theyre worth more than a brand new car (40k+)

[tribal dirge]

Those are the ones that are kept in good condition or have been restored, ones that are beat up don't sell well

Cars 100% depreciate over time and require periodic expenses to maintain their value

[dull hollow]

i wonder how much this person would sell it for

beri clean car

[tribal dirge]

Probably costed quite a bit of money to hire a detailer to keep it that clean

Ohno and it looks modded

Even worse resale value smh

Modded cars are super problematic

[dull hollow]

i mean if youre this into cars id imagine people find joy in detailing their own cars

[dull hollow]

this i agree with

[tribal dirge]

True

[dull hollow]

though if its fbo and they revert it back to stock then its probably fine

same goes for the bodykit

[tribal dirge]

Yeah, but all that is gonna cost money

[iron wave]

Did you guys know that caller ID is basically a modem signal?

[dull hollow]

its a thing i think most people consider or should, if they eventually are gonna sell their car, its best to have it’s stock parts laying around

the only thing that would point it out is that pink engine tub

[iron wave]

I'd rather give the traction battery back so I could get the core charge.

[iron wave]

Body kits are ugly.

I don't understand why people want fat cars...

[dull hollow]

that car i sent has a kit, its not widebodyed

[dull hollow]

not every bodykit is a widebody

[iron wave]

You can hardly see the car in that picture.

[dull hollow]

some only does front bumper, skirts, rear

[iron wave]

I do wonder if it would be worth getting wider rear tires and pushing the wheels further in to keep the stock look, assuming you can deliver 400+HP to the rear.

[dull hollow]

its a nissan 180sx (s13)

[iron wave]

I meant for my eventual project car.

I want to shove as much electric power into a Corolla/similar as I can fit.

[dull hollow]

i mean theres only so big of a wheel you can put on a car before you get poke

or it rubbing

[iron wave]

I meant like wider not thicker

[neat oriole]

[dull hollow]

yes.. that is what im talking about too, depending on how deep your wheel well is

determines how shallow you can your spokes and how big the outer rim can be

[iron wave]

You can cut into that no?

I can't think of very many reasons why you wouldn't.

Other than more tire = less range.

[dull hollow]

well i mean cutting the back of wheel wells just goes into the interior (in some cars) and then theres also just the subframe on most

[vivid gust]

Wooting Lekker Tikken Switches / Switchy Heist / 20 pack --- what is the difference from preinstalled switches? Stronger spring?

[dull hollow]

yes

100g vs normal 55g

[vivid gust]

i got two ... yello and purple

both the same?

[dull hollow]

yes

[iron wave]

https://tenor.com/view/so-its-possible-mike-koziol-bizness-rebels-theres-possibility-it-could-be-gif-22858115

[wheat plume]

HMDs marketing is so fun... And the colors of the phones is really pretty
This one has a really subtle pink

[azure otter]

interesting

i did not know

[weary spindle]

is that a mx5

[winter patrol]

180sx

[weary spindle]

looks very good!

i like lights like that

[dull hollow]

yeah what jabber said, 180sx (s13)

[jaunty rose]

This looks so bad....

[azure otter]

[vapid ruin]

I mean, it's not about the outside, it's about the inside

[jaunty rose]

I'd sharpie oover it ngl

[azure otter]

id spray paint it

[jaunty rose]

or just get a case where you cant see internals

[azure otter]

or get smth custom made

[sick stump]

anti-giveaway

that looks like actual ass

[jaunty rose]

sad thing is that whoever receives this card is just gonna continue playing fortnite and play nothing else at all or just sell it

[sick stump]

yep

i mean tbf it would be worth smth coz they dont sell that generally

id sell it to buy smth better

[jaunty rose]

I just dont understand why they do these give aways

[sick stump]

people always think they'll be the 0.001% chance of winning

gets them more players

[teal valve]

does wooting work on steamdeck?

[bright briar]

interesting

[halcyon moss]

It should. Might need a powered hub.

[lunar elm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/e33-expedition-33-clair-obscur-eE4AC244IZPy2GiAg5

[umbral heron]

100000 people in a giveaway

[jagged light]

is the rk61 gud

[sullen bear]

Win it only to sell it and buy a normal one 💀

[frigid lion]

anyone know some good arm sleeves

[dull hollow]

i use the Es one from pulsar

[azure otter]

procision arm sleeve

[blazing summit]

anyone know a lot ab monitors?

[tribal dirge]

What kind of monitors?

OLEDs or LCDs?

[sullen bear]

I know a lot about current and last gen oleds

[blazing summit]

@sullen bear oleds, basically here is my dillema hold on

this is from something I posted in a diff server

Hey, I’ve been really indecisive. I don’t play FPS games super competitively anymore, but still play them from time to time. I mainly play fighting games, random steam games I find, Minecraft, and Roblox. I have occasional phases where I aim train, play ranked games, etc. but not too often. I know the image will be blurrier on 1080p on a 32 in display but im wondering, is it worth the tradeoff for being able to switch between 4k and 1080p seamlessly as opposed to just going for something like the MAG 272QP from MSI (1440p 500hz), or the ASUS one at 480hz?

Mainly, I wanted to try 4K since I’ve been using a terrible image quality Zowie monitor for years, but I also didn’t want to compromise on performance which is why the dual mode seemed enticing to me.
It’s also used by techless and optimum so I think it would be unlikely to be a bad option.

However, I’m conflicted because I’ve heard from some it’s very blurry when on 1080p and they would rather just get a 1440p 480-500hz, others say they love it and the convenience of having a simple button to switch. Another point is, I’m unsure if buying the LG today will be a wise decision since it was released over a year ago. Are there any better options coming out soon or available now? Should I just pull the trigger? What do you guys think? I haven’t upgraded in so long so money isn’t too big of an issue, because I’m aware the price is insane for the LG.

Specs: My specs, once I upgrade my GPU would be a 7800x3d paired with a 5080, and a 1000w psu. Currently using a 2080 ti, but definitely getting rid of it soon.

TL;DR LG 32GS95UE, MAG 272QP, or a different option

[tribal dirge]

I see

[blazing summit]

Basically a 4k 240hz/1080p 480hz dual mode lg monitor

vs a 1440p 500hz monitor 27in from MSI

[tribal dirge]

the current gen LG dual modes are really nice, if you want 32 inches, go for the LG or equivalent panel, if you want 27 inches, go for that one.

[sullen bear]

It shouldnt be blurry from 4k to 1080p, it scales down and you just have some black borders

[tribal dirge]

yeah you can choose how the 1080p mode is displayed

[sullen bear]

Yea if u do 1080p without black borders itll be blurry

[blazing summit]

idk I heard there was some issues with it the dual mode monitor I’m
Talking ab is the one that optimumtech uses

[tribal dirge]

it wont be blurry, just a really low pixel density

[blazing summit]

is the difference between 1440p and 4k that noticeable?

[sullen bear]

Yeah blurry or low ppi idk man, same same for me

[tribal dirge]

it will be noticable yes

4k will be a big step up from 1440p

[sullen bear]

Yes but i think the hz is more noticeable

[blazing summit]

hmm ye im not sure ab the inches mainly i would get the 4K dual mode if the 1080p wouldn’t be too blurry or low pixel density ykwim

I have a 1440p monitor now but not OLED I don’t think

[tribal dirge]

if the bro is only playing competitive titles occassionally, I think the 4k resolution will be more impactful

[blazing summit]

ur prob right cuz rn im playing

factorio and Minecraft

being able to switch between would be better

but at the same time I do play competitive fighting games, the 500hz wouldnt be that much better in that regard right?

[tribal dirge]

also OLED fringing is much less noticable at 4k than 1440p

[tribal dirge]

in my opinion at least, super high refresh rates is really only beneficial in competitive FPS

not sure about fighting games

[blazing summit]

gotcha so overall since I mainly play games like mc with shaders 4k would be better right

then just switch to 1080p for fps

[tribal dirge]

its perfectly fine to me at least

I have a dual res WOLED, and it looks perfectly fine

[balmy vector]

Most fighting games are hard capped to 60

[sullen bear]

Honestly with his usecase i wouldnt go for either

[tribal dirge]

ok yeah then 500Hz will not matter LMAO

[blazing summit]

wait really?

how many inches is ur monitor

[tribal dirge]

32

[blazing summit]

what would u recommend

[blazing summit]

wow do u have the LG?

[tribal dirge]

it's a Asus PG32UCDP, but they're the same LG panel

[blazing summit]

yeah I heard of that as well

Did u use a 2K monitor before?

[tribal dirge]

yes, at 27 inches 1440p looks fine

not as clear as 4k 32 inches though

I would prefer the 4k at 32 inches personally

[blazing summit]

u play comp fps at all?

I do play competitive fps sometimes like every once in a while

[tribal dirge]

some CS and whatnot yeah

the 1080p mode is just fine for a title like CS

[blazing summit]

gotcha I’m assuming that’s less of an issue because of the resolution ur usually playing at in cs

tbh with u then

I think I’m going for the dual mode

thank u this has been such a hard decision ☠️

I’ve been stuck on a 240hz zowie monitor with terrible colors for years

[sullen bear]

One of the new woled tandem panels

[tribal dirge]

yeah, one thing to note with 32 inch monitors is that you do need to sit a little farther away from them than say a 27 inch monitor

[sullen bear]

Its cheap, high ppi, decent refresh rate

[blazing summit]

heard about these but the refresh rates are lower right?

[tribal dirge]

they are not cheap lmao

[sullen bear]

280+

[blazing summit]

I use a 240 rn prob not yet cuz I wanted to try the higher refresh

optimum said it is pretty noticeable

[blazing summit]

heard ab this as well

thank u sm guys

ducky do u think the jump in refresh is noticeable?

[sullen bear]

480€ compared to 4k 3rd gen panels which are at 800+ rn?

[tribal dirge]

oh I wasd looking at the 540Hz one

that costs 1100 dollars

they have a low refresh tandem oled?

[sullen bear]

280hz

[tribal dirge]

280Hz high key is not it for super sweaty FPS titles

but if you arent like super high rank, I dont think 280Hz will be too bad

[blazing summit]

is the 540hz problematic at all? Aren’t tandem oleds pretty new

[tribal dirge]

540Hz panel is a bit pricey

but very good

[blazing summit]

yeah that’s true but the lg one i think is

1300 or something anyways

wanna weigh my options fully

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

[blazing summit]

is tandem oled a better image quality

[umbral heron]

60 is not enough for super sweaty FPS
280 is more than enough

[tribal dirge]

same image quality but gets brighter than normal OLEDs

thtas the main benefit of tandem oled

[blazing summit]

gotcha but from what you’ve heard of my use case

prob just the dual mode right

[tribal dirge]

if you want 4k 32 icnhes, go for it, if you want 1440p 27 inches, no reason why not to go with the tandem oled one

[blazing summit]

I’m ab to flip a coin or something 😭

what’s the name of the 1440p tandem oled one?

[sullen bear]

Mo27q28g

[tribal dirge]

its very situational, tbh its really down to what size you want, theyre entirely different sizes

[sullen bear]

Is the cheapest one

Asus rog is releasing a glossy tandem woled but it has bad reviews for 600

[blazing summit]

tbh

prob just dual mode or the 500hz one cuz

optimum has been using the lg as his main for a year

says there’s been no issues

plus i use a file manager

[tribal dirge]

you have a competent PC to run that full 500Hz?

[blazing summit]

Tile**

[tribal dirge]

thats another thing to consider

[blazing summit]

so a bigger screen would prob be a +

[blazing summit]

When i upgrade my gpu it’ll be 7800x3d with a 5080

[tribal dirge]

very nice

[blazing summit]

that’s good enough for some titles right?

[tribal dirge]

that should be fine

[blazing summit]

i usually crank settings to low anyways

[tribal dirge]

medium even!

[blazing summit]

ngl dude just decide for me atp 😭😭

[blazing summit]

FINALLY ILL BE ABLE TO

my gpu has been holding me back

[sullen bear]

Btw almost all the panels are the same

Its software solution generally

[blazing summit]

ye i mean the convenience of 4k to 480 rlly sounds nice ngl

[tribal dirge]

also panel calibration

[frozen ingot]

why bother with rendering graphics when you can render the game in ascii and gain even faster framerates

[tribal dirge]

it is very nice I will say

have you ever owned a 32 inch display before? or you mainly stick with 24 or 27 inch displays?

[blazing summit]

literally never which is why I’m clueless, I’ve only ever used a 240hz xl2546 from zowie

and a 1440p 27in

From dell

[tribal dirge]

the 27 inch 1440p fast OLEDs wont be super different from your dell except well, its fast and its an oled, you can pretty much drop that in almost.

[blazing summit]

gotcha so if i want a real noticeable change then do the dual mode right

I don’t mind spending the money since I’ll have it for years

[tribal dirge]

that will make the biggest difference (literally) since its bigger (32 inches) and higher resolution.

[blazing summit]

bet cuz sometimes when I’m playing chill games I’ve realized I just want it to look great ykwim

is the picture really really nice

[sullen bear]

But why oled, you play minecraft and roblox, and sometimes comp games at not high level?

[tribal dirge]

4k 32 inches will be a more immerssive experience than the 27 inch OLEDs

[blazing summit]

nah I play fps and aim trainers whenever I get into those phases

[sullen bear]

I dont think oled 4k is even the monitor you should want or need

[blazing summit]

like sweaty ykwim

[tribal dirge]

simply because its bigger

[blazing summit]

any issues with alt tabbing?

[blazing summit]

hmm idk I don’t want an ips again

[tribal dirge]

I mean, its just like any other display

[blazing summit]

bet

I’m js going with that I think

since the 1440p 500hz oled prob won’t be a lot different than my dell in terms of visuals

[frozen ingot]

I really like my 32", wouldn't want to go back to anything smaller again

[blazing summit]

u have the same one?

[tribal dirge]

same, I love the larger size of 32 inch

[blazing summit]

the dual mode

[frozen ingot]

nope I have a 1440p VA one

[blazing summit]

still tho I guess I gotta try 32in

yk worst things worst

[tribal dirge]

you will get OLED motion clarity and colors, but as far as resolution and pixel density though it will look the same as the dell

[blazing summit]

I hate it and I return it

[blazing summit]

yeah so not too big of a difference

Im js gonna get the 4k

[tribal dirge]

yeah

[blazing summit]

I have a 2080 ti rn with my 7800x3d do u think i need to upgrade the gpu before i even try the monitor

I’m getting a 5080 regardless

not sure what brand to go with tho

[tribal dirge]

you will want a GPU upgrade if you want to take full advantage of the 4k 240Hz of the monitor in modern games like BF6 and Arc Raiders

[blazing summit]

for sure but I can get the monitor first and it might run certain games at 4k 60hz fine right?

Just while I wait to upgrade my gpu

[tribal dirge]

yeah obv

[blazing summit]

bet bet

[tribal dirge]

maybe not 60Hz but more like 120Hz

[blazing summit]

gotcha that’s fine then

any idea on gpu brands?

I have an evga right now but I think they dont produce

I heard gigabyte was bad

[tribal dirge]

the 50 series FE cards are surprisingly good if you can find one

[blazing summit]

idk what else

[tribal dirge]

Asus makes good GPUs

[blazing summit]

what is an FE card

I haven’t upgraded in years

[tribal dirge]

Founders Edition card

[blazing summit]

Ohh gotcha will prob be pretty pricey tho

compared to the regular

[tribal dirge]

no, they have the lowest MSRP LOL

[blazing summit]

Ur lying

well not like I’ll get it at MSRP anyways

😭😭😭

[frozen ingot]

4K would be nice but I don't really have the gpu for running games at a sufficient quality/framerate in that res

[blazing summit]

I’ll check it out

[tribal dirge]

I am not, 50 series FE cards are unironically cheaper than other brands

[blazing summit]

gotcha, I hope 4K will be worth it I think for my use case it will

[tribal dirge]

I have an FE 5090 that I got for 2k at microcenter

[blazing summit]

Are they the best performance wise?

[tribal dirge]

they are what you should expect from that class of card, they run stock power limits and stock clock speeds

[blazing summit]

Might give my microcenter a call

[frozen ingot]

FE just means its nvidias own range of cards

[blazing summit]

tbh I built my pc but I might just have them do it cause I need to do more than just install the gpu

my cpu cooler is an nh-d15

it’s pressing against my 2080 ti

so I need to get a smaller one

[tribal dirge]

thats a perfectly fine cooler

[blazing summit]

ik it’s super big tho

[tribal dirge]

ok thats a bit of an issue

[blazing summit]

like way too big

😭😭

[frozen ingot]

you can only get them in the US afaik

[blazing summit]

I’ll need to get some new thermal paste

ANYWAY

thank u guys sm for all ur help genuinely have a great new years

[tribal dirge]

[blazing summit]

sorry final question, how many gb should I get for my gpu?

32 or 16

[frozen ingot]

for 4K, 16 at least

preferably more

[blazing summit]

prob 32 then is safer

[ashen spindle]

do you mean vram on your gpu?

[blazing summit]

holy 32 is so expensive

[ashen spindle]

they dont really have options there

[blazing summit]

yes

[tribal dirge]

you want at least 16gb of video memory for 4K

32 is just extra

[blazing summit]

do u have 16 and its fine?

[ashen spindle]

no gpu that has 32gb is available as 16gb

[tribal dirge]

I have a 5090 so I have 32

[ashen spindle]

you want to look at gpu power first not vram first

[blazing summit]

wait ur right it was a 5090

read it wrong ☠️

[tribal dirge]

yeah, but like I said, the 5080 that you were considering is more than good enough for 4K

[sullen bear]

Only tarkov and sc use my 5090’s 32gb lol

Star citizen

[frozen ingot]

star citizen actually uses all your vram?

[blazing summit]

gotcha, on the asus 5080 I’m looking at it says DisplayPort 2.1 but the lg doesn’t have 2.1 is that an issue

[tribal dirge]

i've gotten Arc Raiders to use nearly 27gb of Vram on my 5090 LMAO

[blazing summit]

I’m assuming they have the other one u can use too I think 1.4 or something

can’t remember

[tribal dirge]

no, its fine

[frozen ingot]

it'll cpu bottleneck on most systems before it manages to fully utilize the gpu kek

[blazing summit]

bet I’m just getting the 5080 then

rahhhh thank u

[tribal dirge]

usually displayport versions are backwards compatible

you will not have issues connecting a DP 2.1 interface witha DP1.4 interface

[blazing summit]

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 TUF Gaming Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR7 PCIe 5.0 Graphics Card getting this

[tribal dirge]

they are usually forwards compatible as well

[blazing summit]

I think

[tribal dirge]

Asus TUF cards are perfectly fine, as long as it fits it will be just fine

[blazing summit]

bet should fit as soon as I get a smaller cpu cooler

can’t believe how big the nh-d15 is 😭

[frozen ingot]

personally I wish there were more 32" monitors with 1440p res

[tribal dirge]

I think the next gen OLEDs releasing in 2026 or 2027 will have a dual mode 5k and 1440p mode

[blazing summit]

yep they’re ips tho

[tribal dirge]

maybe even tandem too!

[blazing summit]

I thought

[tribal dirge]

nono, like in the future

[blazing summit]

at least the one I was looking at

ohhh gotcha

[balmy vector]

Need those 1000nit sdr 100% image screens

[tribal dirge]

iPad Pro much LMAO

[frozen ingot]

that would be pretty neat but it'll be pricy as heck with decent refresh rate

[tribal dirge]

iPad Pro is unironically the best display I have in the house

[balmy vector]

Definitely need an ipad pro monitor

[sullen bear]

Absolute max settings in that hippy village?

[tribal dirge]

it can go to 1000 nits in SDR its kind of insane

[tribal dirge]

REAL

iirc the new macbooks coming in 2026 are going to get the same tandem OLEDs that the iPads got

[sullen bear]

Just get the cheapest one ngl

[tribal dirge]

or just get the one thats in stock lmao

[balmy vector]

Wish i could have a miku 5090

[tribal dirge]

why not get the ROG Astral 5090 and then wrap it yourself?

[balmy vector]

Cause im both broke currently and not familiar with wrapping lol

[tribal dirge]

lollllll

[balmy vector]

Paying for that g5 tv was worth it but my wallet hasnt recovered just yet

[sullen bear]

It’s a 5080 no?

[balmy vector]

Yeah there’s a 5080 version

[sullen bear]

For 5090 price

[frozen ingot]

need more mini-led options for monitors

[balmy vector]

Also true

[tribal dirge]

nah, MicroLED is the future!

[sullen bear]

Idk they are way too expensive for what they offer

[tribal dirge]

or RGB LED

[frozen ingot]

I don't dare to daily an oled monitor yet

[tribal dirge]

too scawed of burn in?

[sullen bear]

They have like 3 years warranty nowadays lol

[nimble arch]

I’ve been daily driving an OLED TV as a monitor since 2020

CX 48” and C2 42”

[frozen ingot]

I'm quite adept at causing burn-ins on various screens historically lmao

[sullen bear]

I have burn in on my iphone 13 pro which is only noticeable in pitch dark at lowest brightness so i think it’ll be fine

[frozen ingot]

I like running my monitors bright, and also leaving static imagery on there for long periods

[balmy vector]

I hope i never claim this power

[frozen ingot]

mines survived with no visible burns so far probably because I've been paranoid enough to set display dimming/shutoff to a really short time

[sullen bear]

stupidity

[sullen bear]

check in pitch dark at lowest brightness with the static elements such as battery and your button thing?

[tribal dirge]

Real

[sullen bear]

but yea I use high brightness a lot in bright environments

[tribal dirge]

Same

But I do use pixel shifting and pixel refresh

So it's not a huge issue

[frozen ingot]

with a phone I feel like I can adapt my usage behaviour to avoid it a bit easier than on my pc

[tribal dirge]

also helps that AMOLEDs used on phones are generally better than QD-OLEDs or WOLEDs when it comes to burn-in

which is why we can have always-on displays on AMOLEDs

[nimble arch]

I’ve had my eye on an iPad Pro for a while now 👀

Might just hold out for the MacBook Pro redesign.

[tribal dirge]

if you want a good tablet, get the iPad!!!

[tropic ferry]

i tried to find the next best option, mini led or qled but theres not much out there

[nimble arch]

I already have a regular iPad, just want that juicy OLED screen.

[tropic ferry]

would probably take a while for some average consumer prices

[tribal dirge]

yeah

[ashen spindle]

qled qdle micro whatever, will be quite a while away and we dont know which one will actually be the one that is cheap enough to replace oled

[frozen drift]

Let me just jump into this conversation without prior context. Isn't tandem OLED a plenty good solution for the time being?

[frozen ingot]

can make out the entire keyboard burnt in on the screen of my assmung note 8

[frozen drift]

Tandem OLED is REALLY good at addressing many existing issues from both normal WOLED and QD-OLEDs, mainly improved brightness and reduced risks of burn-ins(massively at that).

And then there's also the upcoming RGB Mini-LED panels

[ashen spindle]

its not a solution thats elimiates burn in entirely

[frozen drift]

True but I think rather than waiting for micro-LED, tandem OLED is plenty good and is worth it at current times

I mean if there's a 34 inch 3440X1440 tandem OLED coming, I might just splurge and buy that

Otherwise Mini-LED is also good enough for me

Btw, can I know if there's a realistic time frame for wooting 80HE refresh? Or completely no news yet?

[ashen spindle]

I mean same thing as others, we need to see the cost first

if tandem oled costs 2x regular thats not a fix

[frozen ingot]

I don't see it happening anytime soon

[frozen drift]

It doesn't cost 2X regular what... there's already tandem OLED monitors in the market now and it definitely isn't priced 2X the price of a regular OLED monitor

I'm not tripping, right?

[ashen spindle]

dont think any are out before this upcoming CES?

apple laptops dont count

[frozen ingot]

only thing missing vs the 60HE would be split spacebar and am not sure there's enough interest in that for them to warrant the cost of two 80HE versions at this point

[frozen drift]

https://shopee.com.my/GIGABYTE-MO27Q28G-OLED-Gaming-Monitor-(2560x1440p)-280Hz-0.03ms-GTG-4th-Gen-Tandem-Oled-i.17919052.24147277581

I just found one on my local e-commerce site..

https://www.aorus.com/en-my/monitors/mo27q28g/Key-Features

I know CES 2026 is announcing MORE tandem OLED panels

ASUS's 1440p 540 Hz/720p 720 Hz tandem OLED is also available right? If i'm not mistaken

and that one is indeed SUPER PRICEY

[frozen drift]

I saw many people reviewing it already but you can say "oh asus let them have early access to test it out", so I chose not to mention this without fact-checking.

[ashen spindle]

is that tandem in the same way that apple uses 2 screens? I thought 4th gen was just using another layer on the rgb pixels

[frozen drift]

Oh, wait

Okay nvm forget it then, we are not on the same page and I'm showing my lack of knowledge/inexperience in this particular tech

Yeah I meant tandem OLED as in stacking one layer of diodes on top of another

[ashen spindle]

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/4th-gen-primary-rgb-tandem-oled-monitors-are-here-gigabyte-mo27q28g-showcase

[frozen drift]

I didn't know you can literally stack 2 screens of OLED?

My apologies.

[ashen spindle]

I think thats why they all it rgb tandem to use the same name for marketing

[frozen drift]

What technology or novelty does apple use..?

Stacking 2 screens or whut

I'm sure not right?

[tribal dirge]

Stacking 2 OLEDs on top of each other yeah

[frozen drift]

yeah apple's tandem OLED and monitor's tandem OLED should be the same thing, no?

[tribal dirge]

That's why there are double the display connections on the 2024 iPad Pro vs the Mini LED iPad Pro models

[ashen spindle]

iirc apple uses 2 seperate screens vs here they just add a layer on the pixel itself and not a full second screen layer

idk names are too similar so I cba googling for a detailed comparison

[frozen drift]

hey Mr Ducky, we need your tech knowledge here xD

[tribal dirge]

OvO?

What are you confused about exactly?

[frozen drift]

apple's tandem OLED is still just stacking diodes and not literally stacking 2 complete screens right?

[frozen drift]

addressing this question ^

[tribal dirge]

No, they use 2 independent displays

Because the iPad still technically works when you disconnect one of the displays funnily enough

[frozen drift]

so literally 2 screens stacked together?

[tribal dirge]

Yeah

Each have their own signal and their own power cables

[frozen drift]

Why does apple do this instead of just stacking the diodes on top of each other?

[tribal dirge]

Higher peak brightness mainly

My iPad Pro 13 inch can get to 1000 nits in SDR mode

With 100% white pixels

Which is extremely impressive

Although it only does this when it detects a bright environment like using it outside when the sun is out

Otherwise it limits itself to right around 500-600 nits indoors

Although in HDR mode the ambient light sensor is ignored and it will go up to the full 1600 nit peak brightness when you turn it all the way up

[nimble arch]

Apple support all four HDR standards on the iPad Pro, I think. HLG, HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision.

[tribal dirge]

Yes

[nimble arch]

Although some streaming apps don’t provide the full 4K and/or HDR experience even on an iPad Pro.

[sullen bear]

I have this one 👍

[tribal dirge]

It also supports BT.2100 PQ, BT.2100 HLG, Dolby Vision Profile 8.4, and Dolby Vision Profile 5 in reference mode

[frozen drift]

what do you mean by this? Two power cables? You mean from the internals? How did apple stack 2 screens on top of each other tho.

[sullen bear]

apple didnt do it tbf

[tribal dirge]

Apple co-developed it with LG iirc

[sullen bear]

yeah but thats pretty much LG's work then no? 😄

[tribal dirge]

The Ultra Retina XDR display

[frozen drift]

https://www.macwelt.de/article/2333566/tandem-oled-ipad-pro.html

[tribal dirge]

Yes and no

They developed the display together

[frozen drift]

if this image is correct, then it really isn't two screens stacked together but two layers of panels no?

I mean isn't this still the same as what LG is doing now with their tandem OLED panels for monitor

[tribal dirge]

Apple handled the electrical design for the most part since they use their own display driver technology and LG handles the manufacturing of the panels themselves

[boreal knoll]

Afternoon Guys,

Anyone have a list of compatiable cases with the 60HE v2 module?

[tribal dirge]

Don't forget the underlying display technologies themselves are vastly different, iPads use AMOLEDs but desktop OLEDs use WOLED or QD-OLED

[frozen drift]

Yeah I know mobile devices or even laptops use AMOLEDs, though I'm no expert so even after I googled many times I cannot remember the differences.

The only thing that I want to clarify is

[reef patrol]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[frozen drift]

Isn't both tandem OLEDs from BOTH apple and LG's upcoming panel technology, just essentially stacking 2 layers of diodes on top of each other, or OLED panels (if you will); and apple is not literally stacking two completely assembled OLED screens (the full thing) on top of one another?

[frozen drift]

good for you, how does it feel? I would really like to buy an ultrawide version

[tribal dirge]

On apples iPad their tandem OLED solution is literally stacking 2 independent OLED displays on top of each other

[frozen drift]

Okay then the better question to ask here is, how does this differ from how LG implements their tandem OLED displays? Let me make an educated guess. In LG's monitor panels, they just add 1 layer of diodes but not the full functioning electrical circuit, so the additional diodes still take power from one source of HTL/ETL? Whereas there's two independent OLED displays on apple so one layer can shut down completely if not required?

Something liddat?

[frozen drift]

I think you should read this article and view the schematic diagram inside the article. If this is how the tandem OLED is stacked, then it's just normal tandem OLED stacking, not literally 2 independent displays.

[ashen spindle]

the article you point to literally says though that its two identical oleds on top

[frozen drift]

I mean, if two independent displays then it would be two independent electrical circuits and so on, which I don't think make any sense to me. I would need you to tell me where did you find the info that apple's ipad pro has two power cables for the display though I think since you own one you still know better than me.

[ashen spindle]

also why would that need two power cables wtf are you talking about

[frozen drift]

I don't know?? Ducky told me that the ipad pro has 2 display cables?

[ashen spindle]

where?

I dont see that claim only that its 2 independant displays on top

[frozen drift]

this ^

[sullen bear]

Its great, personally i only stick to 27 inch 1440p cuz 4k uses too much hardware.

But ill probably buy a 5k > 1440p tandem oled if that ever releases

[frozen drift]

and this?

[tribal dirge]

the thing with LG's panel is that they use a 4th gen OLED technology that uses 2 blue layers and one red and one green layer vs with their 3rd gen OLED that uses one multi-color layer

[frozen drift]

Or am I greatly misunderstanding something?

[ashen spindle]

two displays doesnt mean you cant just combine the power input

idk if thats accurate since I never looked much into it but display connection != power connection

[tribal dirge]

they use 2 signal connections, one power connector, and one digitizer connector

[frozen drift]

39 inch 5k2k tandem OLED is coming soon, but I'm looking for 34 inch 3440X1440 because it's less demanding and I don't need that much screen estate

[sullen bear]

I would love a 27-32 inch 5k2k

High ppi

[frozen drift]

Still the fundamental way of how apple stacks their OLED and LG stacks their OLED is the same right? It's just stacking the complete emissive materials (including HTL/ETL and what not, because it is fundamentally necessary), just maybe the display connection is different.

Or maybe LG requires more filter because they use different colored diodes.

[tribal dirge]

yes they stack 2 full spectrum emitting layers on top of each other

[frozen drift]

Otherwise it makes no sense to me lol

okay there we go LOL

I'm so sorry ducky but I absolutely hated the way you mention "two independent screens" and "can be operate independently from e/o" to me, although it's because I lack the knowledge and understanding, but that genuinely made me though apple make TWO SEPARATE screens and stacked them on top of each other (I meant literally backglass included), which made me so confused. Thank you for your time and explanation though, I appreciate it.

[tribal dirge]

glad I could help you learn something new!

the marketing terms does make it confusing ngl

[frozen drift]

And this brings me back to what I initially wanted to talk about, tandem OLED monitors are here and more is coming from 2026 onwards, tandem OLED monitors may be a stopgap measure until micro LED can be commercialized but this innovation is still a massive improvement from traditional WOLED and QD-OLEDs in terms of brightness and reduced burn-in risks.

So it's not a bad time to wait a bit for tandem OLED to come out and just snatch one IMO.

The pricing is not bad either, at least in my country, just don't buy the premium stuff from asus if your budget is not there.

[ashen spindle]

fundamentally its the exact same though so its not changing burn in just delaying it

which is a nice step but very far away from being a solution

[frozen drift]

Yeah I get it but it could last for 3-4 years if properly maintained.

Otherwise the RGB mini LED is also another thing that you can look forward to.

[sullen bear]

Apparently the asus one is kinda shit

[sullen bear]

Probably way longer than 3-4

[frozen drift]

The 720p 720 Hz refresh rate is honestly just a gimmick

Like man, even for esports, 720p is absolutely atrocious.

[sullen bear]

Nah it has black crushing and grey banding and more issues

[frozen drift]

Hmm wasn't expecting that.

[tribal dirge]

if it helps, this LG video more or less explains the difference between their Tandem WOLED (desktop and large displays) and their Tandem OLED (for mobile and small displays) technologies https://youtu.be/-8Z870o6t5o

these are more or less the 2 main types of tandem OLED display technologies you will see

[sullen bear]

Same cuz it should be the same panel(but glossy coating) as the gigabyte one, but that one has positive reviews, so they fucked some shit up

[frozen drift]

Thank you, I just watched it. Based on how I understand it, tandem WOLED means White diodes + one layer of RGB diodes and tandem OLED means 2 layers of RGB diodes.

[tribal dirge]

eh? basically LG's Tandem WOLED all they are doing is separating the R/G emissive layer into their own separate layers whereas in their previous 3rd generation WOLEDs they used to be combined into one layer.

they still use the 2 independent blue emissive layers like in the 3rd generation however

[frozen drift]

Yeah I noticed that I remember seeing how their tandem WOLED should be BRGB, but it makes me wonder why is it called WOLED lol.

[tribal dirge]

the benefits of separating the R/G emmissive layers into their own separate layers is to allow for higher color volume and wider color gamut

[tribal dirge]

it's called WOLED because they still have the white sub-pixel

[nimble arch]

It's called WOLED because the W stands for Winning

[frozen drift]

Was it blue yellow blue for their 3rd gen one?

[tribal dirge]

for their 3rd gen WOLEDs they used 2 blue emissive layers and 1 Red/Green emissive layer

iirc

[frozen drift]

Hmm I wonder how they managed to improve brightness just by separating the red and green into two separate layers

Just because more diodes are available?

[tribal dirge]

also by removing one MLA layer

because the R and G diodes are now separated

[sullen bear]

https://www.lgdisplay.com/eng/product/tv-display/oled-4th-gen

Has some pictures

[tribal dirge]

it's also worth noting that their Tandem OLED technology does not use color filters at all and has direct RGB emission

unlike their Tandem WOLED technology which works like a normal WOLED but uses separated red and green diode layers for it's white pixels

[frozen drift]

I see

Thank you

[tribal dirge]

[nimble arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhvvgtVcSlU

[tribal dirge]

I saw this, the swappable display modules I really like

means you can upgrade down the line if they want to continue support for it

[tropic ferry]

oh nb seems like theres a couple 500 euro options for tandem oled

i was expecting 1000+

[gusty kiln]

lol can any gpu run this with a game that's not simple just shapes

[pale sigil]

Can someone suggest a managed switch, i want to be able to monitor network usage, eg see how much a device used data wise a month etc

I know this can be done via router but i dont really want to buy a router as its just for ethernet i care about.

[tribal dirge]

how many ports? also is rackmount ok?

also where in the network is it going to be positioned?

[pale sigil]

my router can do it but it requires a sub

[pale sigil]

6, maybe? prob overkill.

Lol

[tribal dirge]

and its going to be positioned between your core layer and your access layer right?

[pale sigil]

i have no actual rack system

xd

[tribal dirge]

oh LMAO

[pale sigil]

just saying i can get a rack one and shove it somewhere lol

my server is plugged into my router itself due to 2.5gb tho and its closer

PoE is needed but i can run a second switch just for PoE

aks the one in the pic

tbh long term i made need a rack one if i have access points in other rooms, espcially with poe hmm

[tribal dirge]

so yes rackmount or no rackmount?

[pale sigil]

ideaily no rack, but if rack is cheaper ill take it

lol

[tribal dirge]

your router handles L3 routing right?

or you need a switch that can do L3 routing?

[pale sigil]

no idea actually

ill check

[tribal dirge]

yeah, check to see if your L3 routing is handled by your router or the switch you currently have installed

[pale sigil]

my router seems to be handling it

[tribal dirge]

ok, then you probably want a small L2 fully managed switch

[pale sigil]

tp link be550

i you are interested

pos router

[tribal dirge]

you can probably get a Unifi USW-Lite-8-POE

[pale sigil]

i saw Unii and had to take a deep breath

but its not that expensive

[tribal dirge]

no, not at all

[pale sigil]

or wel

as expensive as i thought

[tribal dirge]

lol

[pale sigil]

tbh tho its a shame its only gigabit for that price

[tribal dirge]

but you get all L2 features and the Unifi network application is self-hosted

[pale sigil]

I would get a Ubiquiti router but they are stupid expensie

i do regret my current router so much when the Ubiquiti UniFi UX7 exists

[tribal dirge]

Unifi Cloud Gateway Max is 2.5G and is 199 usd

although all you get is the router, no wifi

[pale sigil]

Ye no

[tribal dirge]

if you want built in wifi you need to get either a UDR7 or a UDR-5G-Max

[pale sigil]

£239.40 inc. VAT

xD

ill have a thing about it.

I have a cuboard i would have loved to re use for my servers etc haha

[tribal dirge]

lolz

[pale sigil]

Put a rack in there, however i have no one to help me as i cant get in there withg my wheelchair and its full atm

[tribal dirge]

ah

[tribal dirge]

oh yeah UX7 is really cute lmao

and it has built-in wifi 7

only sad part is that you only get one 2.5G ethernet port

yet you get a 10G WAN port

which makes zero sense to me

[pale sigil]

Ye that's poo

My server lol

[tribal dirge]

desktop consumer PC as a server is so real

[tribal dirge]

tbh they could have put a 10G ethernet port in that thing easily

[pale sigil]

10700/32//40gb ram (don't question it) with a 2.5gb pci

[tribal dirge]

lol real

[pale sigil]

And my raspberry pi 5 running home assistant/pihole

Nothing fancy, fairly new into homelab

[wheat plume]

Ooo I wonder how a rack mounted PC would turn out
Like those people who build theirs on a wall

Without the case, just all the parts connected together

[analog sinew]

dusty

[wheat plume]

YEP XD

[pale sigil]

It's what Linus does