🔌│tech

[hexed zodiac]

And I can get it today

Well ill cancel it only after i know its there

And I might cancel my keyboard that I’m also waiting on until I get the wooting

And just get like cheap hyper x one for like $40

[halcyon moss]

i was gonna say buy a used keyboard.. but then i thought about it and.. well.. seems unhygienic

[hexed zodiac]

I don’t even know where I’d get one lmaoo

I don’t have a microcenter near me

[modern sky]

If you trurely dont care and just want to game and chill you dont need to move onto linux

Imagine your OS of choice like an animal you would ride

Windows is like that horse from family guy

Linux is like trying to ride a wild horse

You dont know what kinds of issues you will face

[leaden kiln]

that horse from family guy is a crazy analogy

[umbral heron]

Windows is a horse with eye-patches on both eyes and Linux is a horse with 3 legs

[modern sky]

I think most people either know, or can look it up im just not gonna say it outright like that in a public space

[modern sky]

Theres also mac and from what i heard the experience is mostly fine but limited

[hexed zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-horse-sucking-stewie-griffin-brian-griffin-gif-3814017

[modern sky]

Kind of like writing a bostons instruments horse instead, and they were yet to figure out jumping, but its sturdy, will get the job done

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah I’ll just stick with uh

Windows

[modern sky]

I suggest you try Linux as an experiment but just dont jump into it imidietly

[umbral heron]

Mac is like a beautiful horse but the moment you want to sit on it you'll get a kick in the face

[modern sky]

Where is thine adobe creation cloud subscribtion ?

where is thine i cloud storage ?

sire, i do not posses silly stuff like an sd card slot

( fr tho, if not for that one thing with sd cards i would prob be running all mac with refurbished devices, iphone 13 and mac book m1 in hand )

[leaden kiln]

don't M series macbooks have sd slots

[umbral heron]

If you don't mind a bit of tinkering and are fine with not playing games with anti-cheat then go Linux
If you don't mind cleaning your OS a bit but want everything new to work then go for Windows

[modern sky]

only the pro models and its hard to track a refurb pro

[umbral heron]

Games from 00s/10s now are easier to run on Linux than on Windows

[leaden kiln]

I see

[hexed zodiac]

I’ll just stick with windows for now

I mean I don’t even have my pc built yet, the case comes today so

[modern sky]

Even with student discount, no chance im buying a newgen macbook, when old gen ones are perfectly usable

[leaden kiln]

I kinda wanna get one of the older m series macbooks just to replace my old 7th gen hp elitebook

[umbral heron]

In the end OS is a tool and you just pick a tool that works better for you
Hope that you'll have fun assembling it and gaeming on it

[modern sky]

If I manage to pass the first semester im buying myself a refurbished Yoga L13

[leaden kiln]

good luck

[modern sky]

Theres tons of them around atm, and its the yoga for me tbh xD

From all those 2 in one laptops, I saw a teardown of it, and its just so good

[hexed zodiac]

Well

We will see , I hope building it won’t take forever but it’s my first time so it probably will

[modern sky]

3 hours at most (thats with all manuals in hand and includes watching all the tutorials), unless you are building a whole water block by yourself

[hexed zodiac]

Nahhhhhhhhh

[modern sky]

I mean, thats absolute absolute most

as in, if a 11 yold was to build it, its gonna be faster for you

[hexed zodiac]

What mouse do yall like

[leaden kiln]

I like my hsk pro but I wouldn't recommend it

[hexed zodiac]

Nah I mean if I just focus and do it, shouldn’t take long but I have like a strain in my neck and my like down my spine that hurts like hell right now

ibuprofen finna be my best friend

[modern sky]

Its completely preference

Personally I rock a endorfy GEM onyx white atm

[modern sky]

Do you have a water cooling block/AIO to install ?

[hexed zodiac]

I mean are like the Logitech g pro x super light worth $130

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah I gotta AIO

[modern sky]

Well, thats 4 extra screws tbh

if you know what you are doing, you can manage in an hour maybe less

thats with cable management

[umbral heron]

I liek Deathadder v3

[hexed zodiac]

I don’t know what like hyperpolling is or

I’ll have a good amount of space

On my desk

[modern sky]

i dont feel competent talking about mice tho tbh, my preference is kind of an oddball

heavy mouse, high dpi, high sens so i dont have to move my wrist much when using my pc

[hexed zodiac]

I mean do I need to spend like $100 on a mouse

[modern sky]

No

Imo just look for a high quality sensor, you wont feel the delay that much

[umbral heron]

Like with keyboard
You'll pay a bit more but it'll last you ages

[modern sky]

there are some great mice in range between 80 and 100

That being said as calsy said some brands are worth the money and the mouse will last you longer

[leaden kiln]

You’ll probably get slightly better warranty and cs aswell

[modern sky]

or you can be silly and build the thing yourself

Im still thinking about it tbh xD

a hotswap, 5 side buttons, onboard memmory smooth scrolling mouse, with a knob beacause funny

[hexed zodiac]

Okay so my next question

Wired or wireless

[leaden kiln]

wireless

[umbral heron]

Preference

[leaden kiln]

only major downside is that you’ll have to charge it
There are a few nice wired options from endgame gear though

and wired is often a bit cheaper
Performance between wired and wireless is very close usually

[umbral heron]

The same at this point

[leaden kiln]

yeah may as well be, it’s nothing to make your choice over but eggs wired implementation has a tiny edge over wireless

[frozen ingot]

wireless so good now there's no reason not to choose it

[leaden kiln]

I think price and skipping the charging can be valid reasons but I would also pick wireless

[hexed zodiac]

Hmmmmm

[umbral heron]

I don't feel a difference between wired or not
And as Mega said wired is cheaper and no charging
So for me choice is obvious

[ashen spindle]

wirless means you can walk around with it and dont get tangled up, soo much better quality of life

[hexed zodiac]

I mean you can make a wired wireless right

[umbral heron]

WHY would I walk around with a mouse?
Headphones I understand
But mouse?

[hexed zodiac]

Wait flip the words

[warm ore]

the other way around

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah

[frozen ingot]

I just like not having a cable attached when using it

[ashen spindle]

oh lol yeah nvm I though it was about headphones

[warm ore]

most of them do come with the cable aswell, so you can just always switch to wireless later on demand

[frozen ingot]

cable can get stuck/latch onto things occasionally, most stock mouse cables are usually in the stiffer side too

[hexed zodiac]

I’ll figure it out when I get there

[halcyon moss]

oh hi pleasant

[umbral heron]

Dav3 has a really nice and soft cable

[gloomy walrus]

need help

[hexed zodiac]

I just need to get a nice display port cord

[gloomy walrus]

i missed type my email address when I ordered

[umbral heron]

https://wooting.io/support yeet

[leaden kiln]

The stiffest cable I own came with my fm

[hexed zodiac]

Okay so my GPU has 3 display ports and 1 hdmi port

The 2 computers I have already only use HDMI. Do I just buy a HDMI to display port adapter to so I can just put both HDMIs into that adapter to then put into my GPU if I wanna go triple monitor

Or just get 2 single hdmi to display port. They aren’t the main monitors

[umbral heron]

Monitors don't have DP inputs?

[hexed zodiac]

It’s a old 2017 monitor

I mean shit it might

[umbral heron]

Doesn't matter, DP is way older than that

[warm ore]

I would get two separate cables that are adapted

[umbral heron]

If they have DP use DP-DP cable
If they don't use HDMI-DP cable or cable with an adapter
But one monitor per one GPU output

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah only hdmi

[warm ore]

Then this

[hexed zodiac]

Ok okay

[umbral heron]

There are these adapters which you can use with HDMI cables

[hexed zodiac]

Idk I’ll see what Best Buy has

Assuming they have the monitor in stock like it claims to have online

[gloomy walrus]

is there a live support in wooting?

[umbral heron]

Nope, only mail through the website

[hexed zodiac]

If they don’t have the monitor I want in store imma freak

[warm ore]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-crash-out-angry-gif-15667791719891680630

[hexed zodiac]

Can’t even call into the store to see if they have what I want

SMH

[hexed zodiac]

What’s the difference between these 2

[warm ore]

Odyssey is 1080p for example

[hexed zodiac]

Oh snap

Ain’t even notice

Ok they have my LG though

Huge

[hexed zodiac]

Let’s goooooo. Once my PC case comes in , I can start building it

Ended up getting a logitech pro wireless mouse

[steady sail]

Oof

[hexed zodiac]

Wym oof

I’ll try it

If I don’t like it, I got 2 weeks to return it

[steady sail]

I hate logitech’s mouses

[rugged patio]

u dont like de super light?

[steady sail]

Nope

[rugged patio]

Damn.

[lyric hatch]

MX master though

[steady sail]

Even if someone gave one to me for free i would just throw it out to the trash

[leaden kiln]

thats even worse
wrist destoyer mouse

[steady sail]

The shape kills my hand

I dont care about pro players who use the GPX its not a mouse that works with my hand/grip

[hexed zodiac]

I was between a death adder or GPX

We will see how it goes

[steady sail]

I do love my Endgame gear OP1w 4k v2 mouse

[hexed zodiac]

I was thinking about getting one

[leaden kiln]

did you get a gpx or a gpw

[hexed zodiac]

It was on my list

[hexed zodiac]

Pro x super light 2

[dull hollow]

2 entirely different shapes
deathadder is an ergo mouse and gpx is a medium egg/potato shape

[lyric hatch]

Damn well it's super cozy for me

[hexed zodiac]

I liked How they both fit

Worst case I return it and get something different

[old marlin]

The Oliver Pusse One Four Thousand Version Two

[leaden kiln]

if you like it that's great
I used an older model but it's really just the weight that feels horrible lol
not nice to use for a while

[hexed zodiac]

I’m an amateur

[dull hollow]

viper shape is the most comfortable for me, whether its the viper v3 pro or the hitscan hyperlight (viper mini with flatter sides)

[hexed zodiac]

Don’t yell at me

[steady sail]

Yes

[dull hollow]

right its all preference

[old marlin]

Btw, same guy that originally got der8auer to caseking

[hexed zodiac]

I just couldn’t make up might so I just flipped a coin lmaoooo

[steady sail]

I dont know anything about that

[hexed zodiac]

Just needed one so I could set up my pc after

[old marlin]

He mentioned it in the video where he announced his departure from caseking

[hexed zodiac]

I build

[old marlin]

Oliver Pusse is fr3ak

Kinda cool of egg to name their products after the people responsible for them

[steady sail]

Idk i cant order anything from caseking

[old marlin]

If you are in europe you probably can

[hexed zodiac]

I’m just glad Best Buy had the same monitor as the one I ordered off Amazon so I was able to cancel it

[steady sail]

They don’t deliver to Hungary at all

[hexed zodiac]

And I just snagged a cheap hyper x keyboard to use until I get the big WOO

[old marlin]

One of the stores they own probably does

[steady sail]

Or if they do they ask for 30€ shipping

I order from maxgaming most of the time if i want something that is not available in Hungary

[polar mantle]

Fractal Scape or Audeze Maxwell 🥹

[steady sail]

You mean Fractal Scape ?

[polar mantle]

It clearly says Scape. Hahaha, yes I meant Scape 😛

Jk, I edited it.

[steady sail]

Buy both and try them out

[polar mantle]

Okay, that's not a bad idea actually

[steady sail]

I use a 60$ iem

[polar mantle]

The thing is I would take Maxwell but it's more expensive and I do like the look of Fractal a lot more... + Apparently it's very close to the Maxwell

Yea I looked into IEM's but I'm afraid it will be uncomfortable rather quickly? Or it just because I am used to trashy earbuds

[steady sail]

My IEM is much more comfy that any cheap earbuds that i used

But i prefer wired headphones/iems over wireless ones

[polar mantle]

I hate cables haha, so wireless is a must

[steady sail]

For charging u have to use a cable soo dont matter lol

Same goes for wireless mouse

[polar mantle]

But charge it when not at the desk hehehe

[tribal dirge]

logi powerplay exists

heck you can even buy qi pucks for logitech mice instead of using powerplay

[steady sail]

Only for logikek

The only logitech product that im fine using is their webcam

[old marlin]

Wireless mice feel so nice to use and recharging via cable is really their only issue

Wireless headsets (and headsets in general) all just kinda suck

[steady sail]

Tho TurtleBeach Atlas Air headset looks kinda cool to me

[warm ore]

mouse bungee ftw :)

[steady sail]

TutelBeach PLS

[warm ore]

Tutel KEK

[steady sail]

Too much Vedal content

[old marlin]

Yea no it's turtlebeach

Fuck them

[hexed zodiac]

I am sad

The triple monitor dream is dead because my desk is weird

[warm ore]

:(

Go with two then and put it aside for something else :)

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah i got 2

I just don’t have a place for the 3rd cause I have a back on my desk and I can’t screw it

[wheat plume]

Is sunshine or Apollo safe to use?
Downloaded them from GitHub and they both trigger 4 antiviruses flagging them as Trojans

[hexed zodiac]

Okay so I have and ultra certified cable that’s HDMI to HDMI

And I have a display port

Which do I use lmao

I can get both I guess

[wheat plume]

DisplayPort is always better for monitors

[ashen spindle]

No that’s not always the case

[ashen spindle]

What’s the monitor, depending on what connector they use one of them is better but at 1440p it probably doesn’t matter

[hexed zodiac]

LG ultra gear

Like I said my desk is weird but I got it YEARS AGO and it’s just WAYYYYYYYY to heavy to move but the monitors are at least set up so when I get the case and do that these will be ready to go

The monitors are 2 different sizes

Don’t yell

[covert steppe]

I'm slow and thought it was a ultrawide at first lmao

[elfin crow]

Wall mounts

Thats what I use

[hexed zodiac]

Fair

Id honestly be fine if I had a triple monitor mount but I got this mount a year ago and I’m just now using it

Or if I had stack it

Which I might be able to do….

So maybe the dream isn’t dead

Nah I won’t do it actually

I might just sell this extra monitor honestly lol

[magic minnow]

OnePlus 15 is up for preorder

I’m really debating it

[steady sail]

spare me some money for a new phone sir

[magic minnow]

I’ve been using the same iPhone 16PM I returned the fold 7 remember

[steady sail]

so why do you need a new phone ?

[magic minnow]

I wanna try OnePlus

[magic minnow]

Even discord has a recap?

[frozen ingot]

my gpu should be due tomorrow

[fair gull]

is it a boy or a girl?

[steady sail]

yeah

[tribal dirge]

I turned off data collection so I don't have one

[fair gull]

its funny that they cant give you simple stats without some BS privacy flag

[leaden kiln]

just gonna grab my data the old fashioned way and run it through one of the tools that would give you your data the last couple years 👴

[fair gull]

i really dont get how they cant give me data like messages sent or smth

[tribal dirge]

Like it actually doesn't work when I try to access it.

[leaden kiln]

yeah they probably just want people to turn those settings on

I would've liked to see what percentile top messager I am but I can probably compare to some friends to get an idea

[fair gull]

or well... gdpr package and own data analysis

[leaden kiln]

yeah already requested my data just like last year
this guy still doing his discord wrapped old fashioned style 👴

[fair gull]

imma wait for jan first so i get the actual full year

[steady sail]

could be worse

[leaden kiln]

my friend had 82k and 2k hours in vc

[steady sail]

yeah i had 223 hours in voice

most of time muted xD

while speaking on teamspeak

[reef patrol]

230 hours straight. Until Discord glitched out and begin to randomly kick people from the call.

[modern sky]

Kind of a shame I missed my wrapped, but I'm not giving discord my data

[steady sail]

soo CatchyOS gonna be founded by Framework

https://www.reddit.com/r/cachyos/comments/1peav4c/announcement_framework_sponsorship_for_cachyos/

[wheat plume]

So this means Framework has stopped shilling Omarchy now?

[steady sail]

yes

[wheat plume]

Good

[wheat plume]

No doubt CachyOS is gonna become an officially supported distro on Framework hardware now?! That'll be neat

[pastel galleon]

Yeah I just ordered my Framework 16 a few days ago, can't wait to get it! (7700S GPU)

[wheat plume]

Ooooo!!!!
Jealous

I may get a Framework 13 when my current laptop finally gives up

[pastel galleon]

This is the first laptop I bought with my own money

[wheat plume]

Hell yeh!!!
Feel good doesn't it? :D

[steady sail]

Framework is hella expensive

[wheat plume]

I know

[steady sail]

with how i would configure my own framework laptop (tho i don't need it at all) i could get this

and i still have a 1000$ saved

or this and just 500$ saved up xd

[rugged dust]

Do any of you guys know what to do if you reset your firmware and lost your wooting settings?

[steady sail]

u have to recreate them

[rugged dust]

I don’t have a photo of them and I’ve been using them for so long that I don’t remember them

So I’m just cooked

[steady sail]

uhm yeah

[spiral island]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-to-remember-daniel-solace-aneurin-barnard-1899-keep-that-in-mind-gif-12955732223796932475

[ashen spindle]

yeah framework is the best thing if you want to convince someone to buy a mac

[spiral island]

Just keep Wootility up and fill it back in as you think of things

[steady sail]

true

[vapid ruin]

waow

[ashen spindle]

I felt like that was obvious no? just look at porn traffic on the web

[vapid ruin]

I was expecting 30%

[ashen spindle]

I guess it depends on what they used, like what llm is this taken from

[jovial junco]

bro how the hell do u pull out a switch

i just liked fucked up one of my raws switched @dull hollow 😭

i’m pushing the 2 pins

[tribal dirge]

oh nahhhh

[tribal dirge]

not surprising

you wonder why character ai and similar services are so popular

[jovial junco]

@dull hollow do i need to take apart my module to take out my switch?

if so that’s stupid asf.

i’m been trying to pull it out and i lowkey think i broke the switch

it’s like hella stuck

i can’t even see the pins anymore, also at one point i pulled out the whole LED thingy

[dull hollow]

if you pulled out the led its gonna break easier

but yeah you might have to take it apart

[jovial junco]

it came out like half way

[jovial junco]

did you just pulls urs out?

[dull hollow]

i pushed mine out

[jovial junco]

ah

welp this is dumb asf 😭

i’ve been trying to pry out this esc key switch for the pass 10 mins

stupid mechanic

fk this keyboard 😭

[tribal dirge]

I once tried to pull out my tikken switches and the RGB lens thing went flying instead of removing the switch

[jovial junco]

how u end up taking

it out cause im lowkey getting pissed

should just leave the taws in atp cause this is ridiculous

[dull hollow]

nah disassemble the whole keyboard

and throw the raw at the wall

[jovial junco]

my poor module too

[dull hollow]

yeah lmao

[jovial junco]

you just pushed the switches from the butt?

[dull hollow]

yeah

[jovial junco]

fk

i should done that

now i’m left with one broken switch and a banged up module LOL

i’m seeing other ppl pull it easily tho

the gell going on

[spiral island]

Different switches pull more readily

[jovial junco]

ngl ive never been so annoyed in my life

white on white on white

hope the DCF don’t disappoint

[dull hollow]

genuinely just put one in and compare them side by side

its a world of a difference

[jovial junco]

i gotta take the whole thing apart just to even try one

so if i don’t like it it’s actuallly ggs

cause i lowkey love how the raws feel and sound

like the sticky top you be talking about on the raws

i love it personally

and that it’s white and matched my whole set up

[twilit schooner]

you never see the switches

[jovial junco]

?

oh ye fs

[jovial junco]

then what am i seeing rn 💔💔

[twilit schooner]

didn't know you used the keyboard without keycaps, got it 👍

[jovial junco]

fresh reviews just posted on the kiwi ears orchestras 2 they look g cool so if they preform as good as astral but cop those instead

update:

@dull hollow sorry for spam man but these switches are lowkey stuck in here

LOL

[dull hollow]

try pushing top corner first and then bottom corner

of the switch

[jovial junco]

add brb

[jovial junco]

you are a freaking legend

[jovial junco]

got tiny pieces of the raws broken off, idk what geon was smoking for hooking these shits in hella tight

[dull hollow]

every geon raw user has experienced this

[jovial junco]

shit bro

[dull hollow]

@misty scaffold good ol’ days

[jovial junco]

i wasn’t familiar with they game

would’ve never got the raws if i knew this fr

@dull hollow ngl im liking these already

when i was installing the raws

holy crap it i had to use so much force, the DCF just snaps on easy

[dull hollow]

lol

[lunar elm]

yeah the raws are so hard to put in bruh

[jovial junco]

ngl glad i’m not the only one

[jovial junco]

they do feel nice and sound nice personally tho

[lunar elm]

that i agree

[jovial junco]

i got new switches so i had to swap them out

don’t try to pry them out like i did with a switch hpuller

it will NOT work, the hooks they have on these are way to big

bro… i put a switch in the wrong way… @dull hollow

[dull hollow]

skill issue

[jovial junco]

gotta take it apart all over again

[dull hollow]

why

[jovial junco]

cause i can’t pull the switch out still

[jovial junco]

no….

[dull hollow]

huh

[jovial junco]

i fucked up the oretaion on number 3 bro

[dull hollow]

you can just pull out fluxes normally

[jovial junco]

im trying

its not cwoming outPLEASEEE

eeeeeeeeeeweeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ladies and gentlemen, we did it

[dull hollow]

bro

unplug that jawn

[jovial junco]

alright thanks for guiding me brother

something i learned today is that i probably dont know how to use a switch puller 😭

[jovial junco]

tbh these arent bad but i do kinda like the raws slighty more, the feel and the sound but yah them raws never coming back

[dull hollow]

if youre tryna go for loud clacky shoulda bought the og fluxes

[jovial junco]

the raws didnt sound clacky too me? i think i might have hearing problems

[dull hollow]

i think you might too 😭

[jovial junco]

i sounded deeper than the DCF to me

yo... ngl ive always had hear problems

[dull hollow]

does it in this video? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984799440072220692/1430990339690467328/IMG_8274.mov?ex=6933281b&is=6931d69b&hm=8604dd45d7e4246388e30e522cfc76be5f925abf68209f60858d83cdc9a5bed8&

[jovial junco]

did u swap them just for me 🥺

[dull hollow]

i had this to compare lekker v1.5 and tikkens lol

[jovial junco]

tbht ehy kinda sound the same 😭

[jovial junco]

yo idk what 3 is but it sounds nasty

[dull hollow]

3 is the lekker v1.5

[dull hollow]

i need you to play it at max volume

aint no way they sound the same

[jovial junco]

i showed this to my sister who loves making keyboards and she said 1 and 4 is the best

she knows her shit ig 😭

[jovial junco]

ill play the video again when i get the astrals tmr, ion think my apple buds doing justice 😭

[dull hollow]

give her my proper recording of the dcfs https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1436013386855874631

[jovial junco]

anyways ty again goat

[jovial junco]

ngl i def like the sound of the spacebar with the raws tho, with the raws all the keys sounded the same but with the DCF some keys sounds differnet

[dull hollow]

keys are gonna sound different in different places

[jovial junco]

yeah 100% i just meant with the raws all the keys were more closely the same

[magic minnow]

The blind leading the blind

https://tenor.com/view/montgomery-swizzenbocher-montgomery-swizzenbocher-the-3rd-montgomery-swizzenbocher-iii-montgomery-swizzenbocher-mario-judah-mario-judah-gif-8660918683027233518

[jovial junco]

LMFAOO

[distant tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-tuff-baby-ai-baby-ai-generated-meme-gif-12917678100156115102

[jovial junco]

the pop the switch out from the pc plate isnt the strat?

[magic minnow]

I only read that one message up there

[distant tapir]

yes
no
maybe
(I didn't read the question)

[dull hollow]

is this what the new gen call… ragebait?

https://tenor.com/view/cejm-cavalcade-rodifa-juhulati-gif-21763328

[jovial junco]

L:MFAOO

[jovial junco]

theclosed bottom lowkey throwing me off

i can feel it

[jovial junco]

stem wobble feels the same for me ngl, for DCF and raws

[plush stirrup]

Cloudflare down

[fair gull]

classic

[plush stirrup]

Yeah

[hexed zodiac]

This doesn’t go in all the way correct?

[reef patrol]

Does the screw hole on the far end line up?

Looks like it could go in a little further.

[hexed zodiac]

I didn’t have to unscrew anything

[fair gull]

have you checked the manual if it maybe mentions smth?

[fair gull]

mansen means the post at the end that you installed to secure the nvme on

[hexed zodiac]

It’s definitely not flush

[frozen ingot]

don't think the connector tabs should be exposed like that when its installed

[hexed zodiac]

But i don’t want to force the SSD in lol

[umbral heron]

[hexed zodiac]

Ok I got it

[lunar elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1429172046046433390/IMG_7512.gif

[hexed zodiac]

Had to go at better angle like @umbral heron

[lunar elm]

its like we get a cloudflare down situation everyday

[frozen ingot]

that looks better I think

[halcyon moss]

its quite often these days

[fair gull]

oh i thought you knew that. well glad you figured it out

[magic minnow]

Let me run this through Ai first

[umbral heron]

Let me run through AI first

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-20556983

[nimble arch]

https://tenor.com/view/grok-is-this-true-windmill-water-wheel-gif-5302497903247327835

[distant tapir]

@grok is this real

[hexed zodiac]

First time building a pc lol

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

https://www.proxmox.com/en/about/company-details/press-releases/proxmox-datacenter-manager-1-0

[hexed zodiac]

The thermal paste can just go right on top of this

Is it also better to use the thermal paste given or I bought a tube of it just in case it didn’t come with and it’s a Corsair brand

[crimson wigeon]

Thermal paste barely matters, so use whatever you have on hand

[hexed zodiac]

Ok

[umbral heron]

I usually do it like so

[magic minnow]

I like doing the X

[crimson wigeon]

I just do the blob in the middle

[hexed zodiac]

I think they gave me a spreader

[steady sail]

So you guys use thermal paste

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah screw thermal paste just go with toothpaste you probably have plenty of that already

Bonus: it keeps it smelling fresh, probably!

[steady sail]

Or ketchap/mustard

[hexed zodiac]

Okay right now the fan wiring is messing me up

[analog sinew]

whats the problem

this isnt the first pc we built in here just tell us what you need

[steady sail]

Everyone

[analog sinew]

nah you use cheese so you have a warm snack ready for heavgy sessions

[lofty raptor]

The X gets the best coverage, but really any method works depending on how much you use and how much spillage comes out lol

[analog sinew]

the mounting pressure flattens it out anyway unless you use way too little

and if you have like some missing spots on the edges those arent that relevant either

[steady sail]

Im fine with the pea method

[lofty raptor]

yeah, hospots are mostly in the middle anyway. although the ZEN are slightly off center

[hexed zodiac]

Nvm I got it haha

Okay does the AIO go to on the system fan on the motherboard

This looks crazy but the Okinos aqua 9 has a controller from the fans it had so I used my own fans and put all those there.

The AIO one should go on the system or CPU fan?

[frozen ingot]

if its for the cpu I'd put it on the cpu fan header

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah it’s coming from the AIO

This is gonna be a bitch to make the back look semi decent lmao

[lofty raptor]

or at the very least disaable that setting in BIOS that will halt bootup if a fan isnt detected on CPU

[frozen ingot]

the back is never pretty which is why it has a cover plate

[hexed zodiac]

True

[steady sail]

Why do i look at half-configs

[lofty raptor]

I feel like mine turned out okay, but it was mostly the cases' doing...

[light atlas]

Make sure to push that RESET LED SYS all the way in

[light atlas]

This is a great work, did you manage to keep everything like this even after installing everything?

[lofty raptor]

Yeah. It actually looks better fully finished IIRC. I'll have to try and snag a pic in a bit

[steady sail]

a threadripper 1950x would be overkill for a lil home server

[light atlas]

God bless fish tanks

The mess that's behind is fortunately just a memory

[frozen ingot]

the only fans computer

[hexed zodiac]

The video I’m watching doesn’t have the same motherboard

[lofty raptor]

Different keycaps now, but everything else is the same

[steady sail]

I might gonna snipe this

[frozen ingot]

zero flair, just nice and quiet

[lofty raptor]

Those would usually hookup to JFP1, no? Mine came as a single hookup but yours reminds me of the ones I used to encounter where they were all seperate

[frozen ingot]

putting in a larger gpu any day now

[hexed zodiac]

This right

[lofty raptor]

Yes

[light atlas]

Same monitor here, that looks great

[hexed zodiac]

What a pain

[frozen ingot]

yeah put the connectors to the corresponding pins

[light atlas]

really quiet indeed

[frozen ingot]

you don't really need more than just connecting the power switch, the rest is kinda optional

[lofty raptor]

The only downside to this monitor IMO is that it didnt use DP2.1, but I don't know that it really matters. They say DSC is imperceptible but I would still rather have uncompressed 4k @ 240Hz

[hexed zodiac]

Lmaooo okay done lol

[light atlas]

Trust me nothing changes, the only way to use it would be with a 5090 fully overclocked anyways. Unfortunately the new one they released(27" 4k@240hz) also has DSC

Maybe I'd get the PG32UCDM if I could go back

[lofty raptor]

True. I have a 5090 but I am a whore for Ultra and RT and everything cranked lol. So I rarely reach 240 fps

[light atlas]

I didn't notice it wow you are really into business

Nice job

[umbral heron]

Check your motherboard manual
While it should be okay, there are some which may have order switched
Nothing really bad will happen if you plug them wrong though

[lofty raptor]

I went overboard with this build. I figure I'll keep it for at least a good 8-10 years without upgrading much if anything, so I went all out

Just glad I got my NVMe SSDs and memory before everything went nuts

The memory I got back in June for $140 is now $465!

[light atlas]

That's crazy I also saw crucial - micron "scandal"

[lofty raptor]

Yeah. The memory industry has been price fixing off and on for decades. Theres only like 2 major manufacturers left now that are consumer oriented, Samsung and SK Hynix

When the AI bubble pops micron will collapse im sure

[umbral heron]

Micron still makes chips for OEMs who want to do their own consumer sticks
They just don't make anything anymore directly to consumer

[light atlas]

If they comeback I hope that everyone make sure they collapse anyways

[lofty raptor]

right on

[lofty raptor]

The way I took the announcement was that they were pulling out of the consumer market and selling exclusively to AI or B2B

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/phainon-homework-phainon-vr-hsr-tomatova-stream-komi-gif-creation-gif-1119120942417457501

[ashen spindle]

No micron just removed the crucial brand they don’t stop selling to laptops or the likes

[lofty raptor]

I think the only consumer RAM was Crucial and they're gone-zo

ahhh, okay

[ashen spindle]

Anyone who wants to make ram with micron chips can do it jus till they do with Samsung and Sk Hynix chips

[hexed zodiac]

That’s from the MSI website for my motherboard so should be good

Okay so at the top where has pump sys 1 and CPU fan 1 - the AIO goes on pump?

[lofty raptor]

is your AIO a single connector or split?

[frozen ingot]

huh never seen a dedicated header for water pumps

[lofty raptor]

Mine has two pump headers, but it's a premium board

[light atlas]

Have you got the instructions manual for the AIO? usually it's written. Some prefer CPU FAN other prefer AIO PUMP, other can go in both

[pastel galleon]

hello gang

[light atlas]

The only problem is that if you place it in AIO_PUMP rather than CPU_FAN at the start you can get a "cpu_fan not detected" kind of error

But you can remove the alert from the bios

[steady sail]

U can just set ignore cpu_fan

[light atlas]

yup

[pastel galleon]

what are we talking abt

[steady sail]

I have that as well

[steady sail]

Arctic LF II 280

[pastel galleon]

i see

[lofty raptor]

My AIO came with two headers off the pump. You could use either a single connector and the fans and pump would all be controlled by the same PWM setting. Or it had separate plugs for each and you could plug one into CPU and one into PUMP

[light atlas]

So in this case you have two cables, the waterblock one is mandatory to go in one of the two written there, so you can't place it in "CPU_FAN"

[light atlas]

Yeah mine is one only for example

[frozen ingot]

manual suggests you should use both cpu fan and pump headers

[hexed zodiac]

I only have cause I replaced the fans that were on it

This is the only cable

And I have the fans that I replaced plugged into the controller on the back

[lofty raptor]

Are the replacement fans plugged into the stock fan headers on the AIO or their own controller?

If the latter, plug the fans into CPU and the plug coming off the pump block into PUMP

obviously use the plug labeled Pump though...

[light atlas]

You can do that too

So just connect the waterblock

[light atlas]

Since his are connected to a controller only the pump connected to "AIO_PUMP" should be fine

[hexed zodiac]

It’s ugly but I have this controller that the stock case fans were using. I just replaced all the fans and put all the fans I put on into this

[analog sinew]

yeah, pump goes on mobo, all fans go into hub thats fine

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A-eeJP0J7c

Tech Jesus is big mad.

[analog sinew]

you lose some individual control but eh

[lofty raptor]

Yeah, then just plug the lead coming off of that controller into CPU and plug the Pump lead from the block into Pump or AIO

[lunar elm]

every consumer is mad

because this is truly a dude, WTF?

[ashen spindle]

every consumer is also just yelling because they are misinformed

[hexed zodiac]

Okay I think I have everything in now

Just have to do the power supply

[ashen spindle]

yeah okay not even 2 minutes in and hes ranting and just wrong

[lofty raptor]

Are the fans going to that controller JUST for the radiator???

[umbral heron]

I just like yelling

[ashen spindle]

yeah but this is less coherent yelling than your average lewis rossman video

[lofty raptor]

Rossman always sounds coked out

[frozen ingot]

that's just him being a new yorker

[lofty raptor]

the fast talking?

[frozen ingot]

yeah

typically the more pissed off he is the faster he talks too

[lofty raptor]

True, I guess I get the same vibe from those Subway interviews

[lunar elm]

I could cop a 2x48GB 6000C30 kit for $450 USD in a week if the pricing doesnt change

[lofty raptor]

Not the sandwiches, the mass transit type haha

[umbral heron]

Good luck finding one for $450 now

[lunar elm]

This is in Singaporean dollar, price hasnt changed even after the ram problem. In 7 days its gonna be a $120 voucher off $400 ish. 580 SGD is 450 USD

[frozen ingot]

regardless what crucials retirement means for the pc consoomer market its still not a good look, or precedent for the rest of the industry

[lofty raptor]

I regret selling my 32GB G.Skill DDR5 set for $50 like 3 months ago

[lunar elm]

After 10% Electronics tax and 9% GST btw

[lofty raptor]

what is GST? Global Sales Tax?

[lunar elm]

Government service tax

[lofty raptor]

What service are they doing in this case? Taxing you?

[lunar elm]

yeah

tax is included in all products already

[ashen spindle]

just another name for VAT more or less

[lunar elm]

only situations where it comes afterward is in restaurants where their price is the baseline, GST is charged afterwards in the bill

same with service charge

[lofty raptor]

I'm in the US so all we have is sales tax, which varies by state

[lunar elm]

rn im between the 96GB kit or a 2x16 7600 C38 for like… $170 USD

[lofty raptor]

although I guess some things have additional taxes, like prepared food? Or I can't remember, maybe unprepared food just doesn't have a sales tax

What are you doing that you think you'll need that much RAM?

[hexed zodiac]

Alright next question- how do I figure out what I need for my power supply

[lofty raptor]

You can use one of those PSU calculators. Or, really, go based on what GPU you are using

[hexed zodiac]

5080

[lofty raptor]

I'd say 1000W?

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah I have 1000w

[lunar elm]

scalping editing and VMs

the scalping 1’s a complete joke btw im not an asshole

[frozen ingot]

750 is prolly well enough

if you don't have like a dozen extra fans and drives to power

[lunar elm]

i’m just looking for another ram kit to pair with potentially either a CPU upgrade or a ITX platform

[hexed zodiac]

I just don’t know what cords I need to plug in lmao

[lofty raptor]

Yeah, I tend to overestimate for PSU just toi be safe. Plus there is a small efficency boost if you use aropund 50% capacity

[distant tapir]

I saw a 1000 watt passive PSU get announced recently and it looks perfect for my build

[lunar elm]

750 is good enough

if you have a very good PSU like a SF600, go ahead lol

[frozen ingot]

advantage of ridiculously overspeccing your psu is modern psus typically don't even spin the fan during light workload

[analog sinew]

how big is that

[lofty raptor]

oh lord, I'll leave that to someone that's better at detailing a process verbally. There's a reason I failed English two years in high school and why people often misinterpret what I'm trying to say lol

With GaN PSUs probably not all that large

[distant tapir]

No idea. Seems it's not shown yet

https://overclock3d.net/news/power_supply/all-power-no-fan-seasonic-is-building-a-1000w-passive-psu/

[analog sinew]

ah ok

[distant tapir]

The one in the picture is their 750 watt model so not the same

[frozen ingot]

most connectors only really fit where they are designed to go

[analog sinew]

and if you show us a pic we cantell what it is

[lofty raptor]

I would only worry about the PCIe

[analog sinew]

also also your mobo manual should have a page with all connectors listed

[lofty raptor]

and CPU PWR?

I can't really remember

[frozen ingot]

if its a recent psu it probably has a 2x6-pin for the gpu rather than the 12-pin 12VHPWR, functionally the same

cpu is 2x4-pin nowadays

[hexed zodiac]

Am I gonna use both CPU power

[frozen ingot]

if there is connectors for it, yes

[hexed zodiac]

I have 2 at the top

[frozen ingot]

you'll probably be fine using just one, the second is for overkill cpus/overclocking

but it won't hurt using both

[hexed zodiac]

So don’t need to use these cause I have a 600w one that’s for my GPU

I have this one for graphics card

[ashen spindle]

yup

[lofty raptor]

Make sure that sucker is fully inserted and seated though

[frozen ingot]

yep

[lofty raptor]

at both ends

[hexed zodiac]

So all these other ones are extra

[lofty raptor]

Not really ''extra", just for a different type of connection

[frozen ingot]

2x6pin supposedly "fixed" some of the quirks of the 12VHPWR/600W connector to improve connection and lessen risk of overheating/arcing

[marsh glade]

Give me molex for GPUs

[hexed zodiac]

So do I use the one using the 600w or the one with VGA?

I have a 5080

[lofty raptor]

All they seemed to do was lengthen some pins and connectors IIRC. But still supposed to help because they seemed to be melting because they weren't fully inserted. Although I still think some of it is due to load balancing they removed for no reason

600w

[hexed zodiac]

Ok

[frozen ingot]

most seem to recommend 2x6pin if the option is there, but the 600W one will probably do fine

just make damn sure its all the way in

[marsh glade]

And take pictures of that fact

[hexed zodiac]

I also have this sata thing from controller on the back

[lofty raptor]

Yeah, it's for power to the fan controller

[hexed zodiac]

Okay I think I have everything now

[lofty raptor]

I seem to recall they removed 12v from some of the SATA connectors though?

newer ones or am I getting mixed up?

Either way, if your fans don't work that would be my first suspicion.

[hexed zodiac]

I assume it goes into drive s

[frozen ingot]

yeah

looks like the only ones with the same pinout

[lofty raptor]

Is that a DarkPower BeQuiet! PSU?

[hexed zodiac]

Pure power 13m yes

[frozen drift]

https://youtu.be/yFppaKe5uTo

This guy is just a mad man lmao

[hexed zodiac]

Excuse my language- Why the hell did they make 8 pin connectors

And then 2 4pin connectors

I can’t get the damn 2nd 4 pin in

[ashen spindle]

so you can use the same cables regardless of it you need 4 6 or 8 on the other end

[hexed zodiac]

I got it but I don’t like how the cables are

[frozen ingot]

back in the day most cpu connectors were only a 4-pin square connector, adding another 4 is an afterthought so most psu manufacturers keeps them separate in case you just need 4

but I agree it makes connecting both a pain

[hexed zodiac]

Well certainly not the prettiest but

I think it’ll get the job done

[frozen ingot]

particularly if you got a big ass tower cooler like me its almost impossible to reach the damn thing

also got a pny card on the way

if these fuckers could get a move on, same shipment status since yesterday afternoon

[hexed zodiac]

Now I have to clean up

[reef patrol]

It is a marathon, not a spring. There's always something you can improve on.

[hexed zodiac]

I think we are gold

[forest cliff]

what case is that

[hexed zodiac]

Okinos aqua 9

Okay

Now uh

Anyone got a YouTube video they like to help with the bios

[umbral heron]

https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder

[halcyon moss]

Oh, again?

[fair gull]

european but not on eu tld

smh

[frozen ingot]

smells like fresh silicon

[warm ore]

Good choice, enjoy

[frozen ingot]

cheers yeah was a pretty gud deal

[magic minnow]

Get another one for a sli config

[frozen ingot]

I did thought of using a second gpu for faster lossless scaling/frame gen

but wouldn't want to spend any larger sums on it

[steady sail]

not the NTR

[feral ridge]

well i gotta say, me waiting for the 50super till this summer turned out to be the WORST FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFING MOVE possible.

[steady sail]

ram prices might gonna be fixed

[feral ridge]

now EVERYTHING is just going to get worse

for what i seen the past few weeks i highliy doubt it

[umbral heron]

Dad
NTR

[feral ridge]

we went from normal sales, to expensive as fuck, to 1 of the 3 manufacturers stopping consumer production

😡

[ashen spindle]

no this is not whats happening

as funny as the memes are they are not stopping consumer production

they are just not directly selling it themselfs anymore

you still get consumer micron ram chips

this is basically a thing people apparently expected micron to dof or a while just because on the books its better to sell the ram to others and they just did it now, it doesnt change allocation or anything as long as there is consumer demand

[umbral heron]

Not saying that there's now a hole in the market Chinese companies could jump into and swoop a big chunk of market from US, but that's exactly what I'm saying

[ashen spindle]

well too bad they only now start making ddr5 that kinda works and at worse prices

[umbral heron]

Aite then, plan B
We need quite a lot of 1st class precursors of highly volatile explosive materials
We'll just destroy AI data centers

[ashen spindle]

I mean the best way not having to deal with this would be to turn back time 3 months and not have any headlines about it

because as it turns out a lot of the shortage came from people panic buying not from there being an actual shortage

[feral ridge]

im in

[umbral heron]

Best way would be to go back to 2017 and shoot/kidnap those scientists who made paper about LLMs

[ashen spindle]

gotta go back to 2010 and stop alexnet or even earlier

[steady sail]

im in, time to build the Wooting Time Machine

[ashen spindle]

but yeah turns out most supply chains work on JIT supply so they are always short on supply but its fine unless people start panic buying

so if there is a small increase in price and you get headlines that say supply is getting worse people panic buy and thus exacerbating the issue

so if nobody had written about it we probably would've seen a modest spike in price and then nothing

[steady sail]

soo the best thing to do right now is to wait

[ashen spindle]

not saying they shouldn't write about it but its funny to see unfold

[umbral heron]

EAT THE RICH

[ashen spindle]

but its not the rich peoples fault (this time)

[umbral heron]

I don't care
I'm taking Altman's ribs

[ashen spindle]

I mean thats not eating the rich thats recycling the trash

[frozen ingot]

aren't the ai bros pretty loaded though

[ashen spindle]

waiting is probably good unless you need something soon, Q1/2 looks worse but thats all estimates

[jaunty rose]

ai bros are just nft/crypto bros in a new coat of paint

[steady sail]

i mean AI is the new Crypto boom

[jaunty rose]

Well I hope ai has an inevitable massive fall causing lots of money lossed

[feral ridge]

wdym didn't they make the statement that crucial in itself is being terminated

and they'll now sell to datacenters and whoever

[jaunty rose]

Even then the same people and companies will just end up moving to the next big thing so at this point would it even matter?

[ashen spindle]

micron is not directly selling you ram via the crucial brand anymore, brands like corsair can still buy micron ram and sell it to you or put it into laptops

basically pretend every single stick that uses the crucial name gets a name change and thats more along the lines of what happens

[feral ridge]

hm

[umbral heron]

They just won't make stuff straight for consumers
They'll still sell to OEMs who make dies for consumers

[feral ridge]

yhyh i get what ur saying

[umbral heron]

Which is reasonable, they can make more money by dedicating production lines which made dies to make more chips

[ashen spindle]

sk hynix and samsung dont have consumer brands either so they were the outlier of the brands anyway

[jaunty rose]

What major brands were selling ram from micron?

[ashen spindle]

in laptops and such? basically all

in DiY sticks, mostly crucial because obviously they get the better deal from themself

[jaunty rose]

Oh dang I see

[umbral heron]

Still sucks, because Crucial had really good and quite cheap SSDs

[unkempt lake]

Can i get the thighs

Chicken thighs are good so

Human thighs must taste good too

[wheat plume]

🤔 what a time to pause

[rugged patio]

LOL

[frozen ingot]

new gpu installed

didn't do any driver wipe, just put the card in and updated to latest version, lets see how that goes or not

[dull hollow]

goes kaboom

[frozen ingot]

12VHPWR adapter wasn't the most elegant addition but it'll do

wasn't aware how much smaller the port was vs the old pci-e 6-8 pin connectors

[ashen spindle]

yup, but surely they means they made the cables thick enough it can deal with all the extra power, riiiiight?

[frozen ingot]

had they kept the same dimensions of the old one the thicccness would probably handle heavy workloads more reliably

but we somehow can't help but shrink things down for the sake of it re tech

shoulda just used a pair of usb-c to power it fr

[heavy ridge]

anyone know much abt apple watches

and if 300$ cad is a good deal for a 7

[jovial junco]

u can def get one for cheaper

imo

i got a series 9 for 200

wait i forgot its CAD

i got a series 9 for 300 CAD

so you can def get one for cheaper

[stiff river]

Anyone know why my 14700k Intel cpu doesn’t pass the stress test cooling is all good and upgraded the power supply and can’t find the reason why

[lunar elm]

could potentially be a degraded chip

or ur setting’s too aggressive

[stiff river]

I’ve heard something about xmp overclocking could be the reason why

I disabled xmp and It hasn’t crashed

Should I tweak some of its power delivery

[lunar elm]

whats ur XMP profiles and how many dimm slots are u using

[stiff river]

Im using 2 dim slots and ddr4 3200

I have two 8gb ram 2400

[lunar elm]

so it only crashes with XMP on

can you show me the XMP timings and voltages

[stiff river]

Yes

I just remember this is an old profile bc I upgraded the power supply and swap the cooling system

[lunar elm]

enable XMP and manually lower the speed to 3000 and test

either u lower the speed and try or you increase the voltage

[stiff river]

What do I need to change to go on 3000?

[lunar elm]

dram freq

[stiff river]

Set it to 3000?

I also lowered the cpu core/cache load line calibration to level 3 which made it stop crashing with xmp off

So far it’s not thermal throttling no more

[analog sinew]

load xmp setting

then set freq to 3000 ig?

[lunar elm]

yes

[sharp badger]

https://ressencewatches.com/pages/type-3-marc-newson Apple watch designer designs a Pixel watch (€61000)

[magic minnow]

Should have called it The Pebble

[wheat plume]

Nah thats already claimed by Pebble watches xd

[marsh glade]

Oh boy, the latest Gamers Nexus video is deliciously spicy

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

Hes the best at sarcasm xd

[ashen spindle]

its also just wrong

[nimble arch]

Is this the RAM video?

[reef patrol]

Yes

[crimson wigeon]

Thanks Steve

[marsh glade]

How so?

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/3NSjvJDe6Ic

Steam Frame and Controller are so hype!

[crimson wigeon]

Thanks Internet Explorer

[ashen spindle]

he talks about an seemingly panicked decision when thats something people expected micron to do for a long time just because its a better business deal to not deal with customers directly for memory makers, the demand thing is something that also got exacerbated but you probably know how supply chains work and that just-in-time supplies are at higher risk when a small demand spike causes headlines that make people panic buy and thus causing a bigger demand than was actually needed

like if you look at sk hynix or samsung neither of them had a in house brand like crucial

[marsh glade]

His argument is that while the announcement is regarding specifically Crucial, the reading between the lines is that their allocation of line time to consumer memory in general is going to be pulled way back

[ashen spindle]

I mean you dont need to do reading between the lines to know that if you can sell the same product with higher margins to someone else you do that

[marsh glade]

Sure, which has consequences

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah not saying prices arent going up but I feel like with them doing so many supply chain videos and all, it would've been really easy getting someone as a source on or off record who would've explained something about the JIT supply chain nature, maybe something from inside micron about what this actually changes and what it doesnt

[marsh glade]

I'm not sure that the lack of that context means the video is wrong

[ashen spindle]

specifically this being shown as a sign of price fixing or collusion just isnt really correct when the issue of a 1-3 quarter price hike due to supply chain nature and moderately higher demand isn't something they can fix, memory fabs take just like regular fabs like 2-4 years to get online, you dont build them when it everything points towards demand dropping long before those fabs are done and then you cant make the cost of that back

because as much as people want more ai hardware and more ram, its not like you can make infite cpu/gpus and memory is trying to catch up, those are all finite supplies so there isnt an insane hole that woudl eat up every single consumer ram stick

like yeah the memory cartel and price fixing is and has been real for a while

but that doesnt change how much they can change on a whim without suddenly losing money just to be a charity

so imo when the 2 most important things related to demand/supply are
-JIT supply chain
-time to make more dram fabs
and both are either not spoken about or wrongly so, I think a big part of the video is wrong

[nimble arch]

Plus why sell to consumers directly when big OEMs, consoles, and data centres are just better customers?

[thick elk]

Last time memory was scares same reports about no hurry to build out capacity, and prices just fell again to pretty cheap right now.

Definitely can't see the spike in demand now to be structural, even with AI, the pace of buildout very much has to slow down either way.

Have not watched the video, assumed it would offer no good insight, should though.

[thick elk]

Generally sticks sold to consumer are just more sensitive to price shocks. So it will peak, especially if people rush to snag up supply .Should probably normalize over time.

[nimble arch]

Yeah but when RAM alone costs as much as an entire console, that’s pretty rough.

[magic minnow]

https://fxtwitter.com/dexerto/status/1997370273658503507

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[lunar elm]

time for a lawsuit

[modern sky]

Those things give you adds?

Never buying one wtf

[magic minnow]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lotus-Diplomat-Smartphone-with-keyboard-24GB-RAM-1-5TB-storage-and-Snapdragon-8-Elite-aims-to-fill-gap-left-by-BlackBerry.1174214.0.html

[storm spoke]

A

[magic minnow]

https://youtu.be/CjuO8ck2MuM?

[vapid ruin]

noice

thanks for getting me something to watch during dinner

[analog sinew]

"tech"
look inside
ad delivery vehicle

i ahte ads i hate ads i hate ads

i should make my own country where ads are banned

[marsh glade]

Taktakistan

[analog sinew]

glorious

[marsh glade]

Twice the Taks, I, and Stan

[analog sinew]

no but fr, ads are such a cancer on society

They ruin every look, or cohesion, they annoy blabla

every discord bans users advertising, because it fucking sucks

every city centre looks like shit cause of posters and other ads everywhere

[fickle ore]

waa waa

ads are best

[marsh glade]

I can't wait for wearable AR glasses that have adblock installed for irl ads

[nimble arch]

Every Discord server bans advertising because the "community" just becomes "artists" selling their poorly edited AI slop or wannabe 3 viewer Twitch streamers thinking they'll make it by begging for viewers in random servers.

Advertising largely does suck but the online hustle bullshit is an extra layer of suck

[analog sinew]

yes

theyre the same thing

thats just what ad mentality has done to us

capitalist nonsense

not everything and everypne exists to sell/be sold shit

[fickle ore]

No lol

[ashen spindle]

I mean gl having youtube and similar sites work for free without ads

or any news website

[fickle ore]

It just means everyone wants to sell stuff, like before, it's just now that with internet you can actually see how it feels when everyone spam in the same space. Before it was local spam in the villages everyone farmed potatoes

Hive minds suck

[marsh glade]

There are plenty of schmuks who pay for things whose MRR I can coast off >_>

[iron wave]

I wonder if there are any good fiber cables for this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CNXNGYF9

[iron wave]

Who knows what I'm up to with this?

[ashen spindle]

are you putting your gpu outside so it stays cold and and use the laptop indoor

[iron wave]

Not quite.

I'm going to try plugging the GPU into my car to improve the self driving.

Is that the magic talking cat?

[ashen spindle]

What are you using for self driving, the comma thing or a Tesla?

[iron wave]

Comma, Tesla wouldn't let you do this.

Not that I blame them for not wanting you to do stuff like that, if I was Tesla/Lucid/Rivian/etc. I wouldn't let people plug external GPUs in either. But because Comma is aftermarket in the first place.

[ashen spindle]

Tbf I trust comma even less because I only trust geohot as far as I can throw him and my arms are weak

[iron wave]

Yeah, Geohot kind of sucks but the team seems pretty decent. The stack seems pretty good, has a lot of layers of safeties (like it can't use more force than a litteral child could overpower to steer the wheel) and is mostly open source.

Not saying you are wrong not to trust him.

[ashen spindle]

Yeah I guess that’s the best part about him having moved on to his next scam, the team can now actually do work without him lmao

I trust you looked into it enough to be comfortable

[iron wave]

I was following it for like, 4 years before I got one.

With the Comma 4 coming out I'm considering trying to sell my 3X to get the lower profile device.

I hate YouTube I swear.

[ashen spindle]

thats what you get for watch watching a racist

[iron wave]

English as a second+ language is amusing.

I bet it wouldn't buffer if it actually streamed instead of downloading a Mib of video and then waiting to download more for 30 seconds.

[ashen spindle]

I miss the old youtube where you could preload the entire video

[reef patrol]

Or at least enough to never buffer.

[iron wave]

Yeah now that's PrEmIuM OnLy.

[steady sail]

and its not works correctly

even with premium

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDvfIbRIb3U now this should be good

[iron wave]

One day I will buy a second 4090 and make my game engine work with multi GPU setups.

[ashen spindle]

just make it work with your igpu so you make it even harder to implement hehe

[iron wave]

I don't have one.

[ashen spindle]

well its cheaper to get that than a 4090 xD

[iron wave]

A new CPU is cheaper, but it will be slower than what I have without a new motherboard and junk too.

[fair gull]

isnt sli dead

[ashen spindle]

mGPU != sli

[fair gull]

you wanna do some weird data moving?

[ashen spindle]

it can work quite well in some cases

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/the-zen-of-mgpu/219175 heres someone doing it in some games

[fair gull]

damn working better than i imagined without a dedicated sli/nvlink bridge

[iron wave]

Explicit multi GPU is a thing. :-)

[tribal dirge]

Yeah it has been replaced with newer technologies like NVLink

[iron wave]

This is different.

[tribal dirge]

Although more recently NVLink has evolved into NVLink Fusion and NVQLink

[iron wave]

Just let me use it on my cards Nvidia.

[frozen ingot]

I might have to get another power cable for my gpu the adapter I got is ugly even for my standards

also it puts a bit of stress on the connector which is not ideal

[wheat plume]

OK I LIKE THIS https://youtu.be/-jcnHocb1rw

Something actually pocketable,
Something made for destroying our Indie game backlog without destroying our pants
Tech Dweeb - Wishing for a Steam Deck Mini Edition running SteamOS and an ARM CPU

https://youtu.be/aYpSlKnb0XU

[ashen spindle]

Wishing for a Steam Deck Mini Edition
yeah thats what we need, making the same mistake as xbox series s with even worse hardware...

[wheat plume]

pocketable indie game machine

[fair gull]

those already exist though

like gpd win isnt exactly new

i thought the appeal of the deck is running higher requirement titles on the go

which coincidentally the gpd win sucks at

[nimble arch]

Yes, but the Steam Deck has a monopoly on mindshare for PC handhelds.

It's also good SEO to mention the Steam Deck in PC handheld content.

Even some Switch 2 content.

[fair gull]

sometimes i hate consumers

[nimble arch]

Mild take but PC handhelds are overrated.

[fair gull]

dw i dont have a deck

i dont personally see a point in it for me

id rather take a 3ds/psp/gameboy with

[nimble arch]

I had one, cool device when it's in the working window.

Valve just don't have the leverage on the PC market to get more games into the working window regarding anti-cheat, performance/settings, or the different stores/launches.

I'm in the rumoured PS handheld waiting room.

[minor citrus]

My Steam Deck is acting as a second Screen PC because I couldn't be bothered to get a longer HDMI cable

[ashen spindle]

they dont need the leverage, the deck is absolutely not aimed at anything like bg6 or other primarily AC using games

[fair gull]

baldurs gate 6?

damn

i missed 4 and 5

[ashen spindle]

lmao bf6

[nimble arch]

The only thing I never really tried was using the Steam Deck as a remote play device for my gaming PC. I've seen some people near-exclusively use it for that.

[fair gull]

for that id even more so get a shit spec device since it would just stream video and controls

maybe my mind will change if the steam frame has a decent price point

[ashen spindle]

you mean the machine?

the frame is the vr headset

[nimble arch]

Are there any cheaper handhelds with an OLED screen?

[fair gull]

i mean the frame

given it can play games

on the go

technically

[ashen spindle]

ah yeah

[nimble arch]

I'd like to try a PS Portal now you can cloud stream several thousand PS5 games alongside remote play from your own PS5. Although I don't fancy upgrading to PS+ Premium for the cloud gaming part.

[jaunty rose]

Really excited for the steam frame because I was a chronic beat saber player (peaked top 2000 worldwide) and the controllers seem perfect for beat saber as well as the very low latency they’re advertising

My one concern is headset battery life

[fair gull]

im trying to keep my excitement low cause well unknown price

[jaunty rose]

If it’s a thousand bucks it’s not worth it at all, might as well get a Big Screen Beyond 2 for that price

And ball out on vr hardware

[fair gull]

i dont think itll be sub 1k

[ashen spindle]

battery wont be an issue worst case just do it like on a quest and get a 3rd party strap with replacable battery

[vapid ruin]

I mean, you can prop strap an external battery on your body and add in 2-4 hour

[fair gull]

given the frame isnt just a HMD but also a mini pc/phone basically it will deffo breach the 1k

[ashen spindle]

I fully expect 999

[vapid ruin]

Same

[fair gull]

im actually waiting to see where it falls between 1k and 1.5k

[ashen spindle]

its nothing insane like a big screen and just using the default snapgradon chip

maybe bc ram price 1099 for a while until that comes down

[fair gull]

wait does the frame even have eye tracking?

[ashen spindle]

ofc

[fair gull]

oh right

[ashen spindle]

foveated streaming is like one of the big things about it

[fair gull]

foveated streaming and such

yeah

nvm my dumb ass

[jaunty rose]

Guess so

[fair gull]

imma strap 4 carbatteries on me and go for a whole day

[jaunty rose]

Highest price I want is $750, any higher just feels unreasonable to me

[ashen spindle]

Yeah no it includes Controllers and everything and isn’t subsidized like a quest

Big screen starts at 1000 without controllers base stations and is wired only

[vapid ruin]

if it's below $800 I'll grab it no question, if it's above I'm hoping for a colored passthrough module cause I want it to be like Android XR/Tablet with a really large screen.

[jaunty rose]

Yeah I am aware

[ashen spindle]

Yeah monochrome pass through was the one letdown

[jaunty rose]

oh yeah i forgot it has modularity in the front, big new for the unemployed (face tracking)

[vapid ruin]

could actually be an advantage, cause you can replace the module in front for a wider camera/better resolution colored passthrough

[leaden kiln]

🤯 index stays winning in passthrough

[halcyon moss]

No one is gonna do that

[ashen spindle]

Yeah could be nice if it’s a stable monochrome so the game you play is more in focus

[jaunty rose]

Index stays winning in screen door effect

[ashen spindle]

Yes people will lol

[halcyon moss]

And it requires a 3rd party company to create it

[leaden kiln]

winning in neck strain?

[ashen spindle]

You greatly underestimate the small dedicated vr add in ecosystem

[jaunty rose]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-true-bowser-true-mario-movie-gif-1776947366718421669

Really wish vr was more mainstream so we could have more quality vr games on steam

[vapid ruin]

it might cost $300-500 extra for the colored passthrough lmao, but since it's a camera, it can also greatly help with adding more tracking point or as a mouth tracker in a pinch.

[jaunty rose]

Mouth tracking on top of eye tracking would be so good…

[reef patrol]

#🌐│pc_gear

[iron wave]

My ears are symmetrical in a way that bothers me.

[sour flume]

sorry

[nimble arch]

[sudden imp]

I feel like these are not too over priced..

I’ve seen higher which is sad

[pale sigil]

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/s/KurzFHVpFu

Why can't this happen to me