🔌│tech

[tribal kelp]

I use it for some map and image generation for gaming too.

(tabletop gaming)

[steady sail]

I just wanna get better 1440p performance so thats why i thinking of getting the 5080

And i dont think that i can achieve that with a bios flash

And for 50€ plus from the EU msrp its not that bad

[tribal kelp]

It's not going to be very much of an upgrade for you, unless you can sell your 9070.

[steady sail]

I do wanna sell my 9070

[tribal kelp]

I'd find a buyer first then.

[steady sail]

Im not gonna do it as an instant but i was thinking about it

[tribal kelp]

I wouldn't.

I'd find a used 4090 that's known good long before buying a 5080

[steady sail]

There is 6 4090’s on the used market

The cheapest is 1410€

[broken sky]

Yoooo what's a good mouse for games like val and fort?

[steady sail]

The one that i would kinda buy is the MSI one but its 1800€

[broken sky]

And also is it worth waiting a month to pre order rn?

[steady sail]

This for 1800€ idk

[tribal kelp]

For 60HEV2? That's up to you. If you want split keyboard, which is potentially very beneficial to gaming those titles, then that may be worth waiting for

[magic minnow]

Viper v3 pro

[tribal kelp]

If you need a good mechanical keyboard now, there's faster Wooting options.

[broken sky]

am low-key thinking to buy a wooting cus I have a decent keyboard rn but a broken w key so am not sure if I wanna wait a month for a keyboard

But I also don't wanna buy the wooting 60he+ because the wooting v2 is the same price

[tribal kelp]

The 60HE+ and 80HE are both good options if you need one now.

There's some... Maybe relic stuff let me see

https://wooting.io/outlet

80HE misfit available.

If you're stuck on 60% then that's a different calculus.

[broken sky]

nah I really want a 60 procent

I think I'll just wait out the month

Hopefully the time will fly by

Currently I just have some cheap knock off of wooting

[tribal kelp]

Then 60HEV2 aluminum is your fastest bet. May need to check configs.

Definitely look into split space.

[broken sky]

I don't get it what does the split space bar do?

[tribal kelp]

2 new bindable keys you can access while using WASD (with larger hands) or 1 new key you can access while using WASD.

It can save you a mouse bind for FPS games, letting you not disturb your aim with the action.

[plucky olive]

Functionality :), I'm probably gonna grab one soon.

Their is an extremely large ammount of functionality that comes with owning a wooting, you kinda just gotta own one to know.

[unkempt lake]

All i'm gonna say is... why did you buy the bloody thing barely 6 months ago the fuck did you think

If you knew you wanted more

Then kept posting every day for months

"I am so happy with my 9070"

"I am very glad i didn't buy an XT this was better for me"

Are you saying you gaslit yourself or were you trying to gaslight us ?

he was lying all along in his 70 i am happy messages

we hecking told you

[tribal kelp]

...oof

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

You know I knew it was odd how he kept posting so often this

this makes so much sense now

[steady sail]

U know that im dumb

[unkempt lake]

then please listen when people try to help you

instead of dismissing everything xD

[steady sail]

But nah im gonna stick to the 9070 even if i wanna upgrade

[pale sigil]

Have you got any matches or a lighter?

[unkempt lake]

upgrading would be like really dumb at this point

Just keep the card

[steady sail]

[pale sigil]

Have you?

Nearby?

[tribal kelp]

I see where this is going.

[tribal dirge]

should have been a 5090 smh

[steady sail]

True

[steady sail]

Soo i should buy 2 5090’s

[ashen spindle]

no, buy rtx pro 6000

[kind crescent]

SLI the 6000s.

[bright briar]

buy 6090

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[kind crescent]

Buy all the 6090s and make a render machine.

[plush stirrup]

apparently netflix now costs 21.99eur/m where I live, wtf

[proud phoenix]

21 eur is crazy

[vapid ruin]

As much as indie game lmao

[plush stirrup]

I would round it up to 22eur for that 0.01eur xD not down

countries with the same wage and such pay less idk why it's so expensive here

I'd pay the same for Amazon Prime yearly compared to a month of Netflix lmao (Prime being 25eur/y and Netflix 21.99/m)

at least HBO is cheaper now, used to be 21.99eur/m for FHD content with "no interest in UHD" because a local company bought the rights

[tribal kelp]

Once there was cable, and exorbitant media fees.

Then came along mass piracy, and people said why should I pay so much for so little?

Then there was Netflix, who had licensing for damned near everything, and people said, why bother pirating when for a reasonable price I can cut the cable and get everything legitimately when I want?

Now that every single channel and their dog's channel wants to be the next Netflix, and won't license their content, but instead want to have a premium subscription service as a standalone or addon to Amazon or Hulu, we're paying as much or more as we used to for cable.

So we've come around full circle to piracy again.

[covert steppe]

Alr gang 11/11 starts here in a few hours on Ali, what are we all getting lol

[dull hollow]

i bought 3 things for a dollar which totaled to ~$30

[covert steppe]

Oop

[dull hollow]

bought a magnetic pad (long overdue to have for keyboard modding)
some slidy fidget toy
and a screwdriver kit so i can stop searching the house for the only other one that has the right bits

$1 to good use

[covert steppe]

Absolutely fire lmaooo

[quartz slate]

hey guys when im trying to place my order for wooting v2 I get this message b4 proceding to pay You will need to screw in one standoff for grounding when using friction fit with the Alumaze. what does it mean

[whole bramble]

what part are you confused abou

[quartz slate]

tbh its my first custom keyboard im building and english aint my first language I mean I know it but im confused about the msg will I need something additional to build it?

[whole bramble]

the sandoff should come with the board

[quartz slate]

ohh ok

[whole bramble]

sorry case

not board

double check that, but that's basically it

[quartz slate]

so then no issue with this order I wont need anything else?

[whole bramble]

MXN is a currency i've never seen before

[quartz slate]

Im going to order keycaps from a separate website thats why I selected no keycaps

mexican pesos

[whole bramble]

yeah looks okay to me

[quartz slate]

ohh ok thanks man just wanted to make sure nothing was missing b4 I placed the order

[whole bramble]

TIL

[quartz slate]

thx for the help

[whole bramble]

🤝

what caps you getting?

[quartz slate]

some tai hao pbt

should be around 300 usd for everything including the keyboard building

this ones are called frozen llama something

been wanting them for years

[whole bramble]

nice

[dull hollow]

the kom poms needs to be hand lubed btw

[quartz slate]

I read a msg on reddit that the wooting version already come lubed

[dull hollow]

they have very little

[quartz slate]

does it affect the feeling when using the kb?

[dull hollow]

it might feel a little scratchy or not as smooth

[quartz slate]

I see

[whole bramble]

it also changes the sound

[quartz slate]

I´ll look into the lube im scared cause I have watched tutorials on the lube and it seems scary to do all that taking appart

[whole bramble]

it's a lot of time

I'd look at a diff switch

[quartz slate]

yeah I saw one guy said he took like 6 hours on the whole kb

[whole bramble]

tikkens would be okay as an examlple, right core?

[dull hollow]

yeah tikkens got a lot of lube from factory

[quartz slate]

ohh ok

[dull hollow]

core

[quartz slate]

the tikken v2 right?

[dull hollow]

theres only 1 version of the lekker tikkens

[whole bramble]

theres's lekker v2 and tikkens

[quartz slate]

would it affect something on the kb if I use 2 types of switches?

[dull hollow]

no

[whole bramble]

the feel and sound

beyond that no

[dull hollow]

at least i dont think so

[quartz slate]

I see okok

[whole bramble]

like there's going to be a difference between the 2 swtches

[dull hollow]

anyways theres a switch selector update coming out but idk if that sets it for the whole keyboard or separate keys

[whole bramble]

don't get the idea of using the ones we get from the bundle

[quartz slate]

do u guys also recommend the rings some people say using rings feels nice

[dull hollow]

no

[whole bramble]

orings? very mush feeling, might as well buy a silet switch at that rate

[dull hollow]

orings under the keycaps?

[quartz slate]

oh so its to silence the switch

yeah those ones

[dull hollow]

no dont do thst

[quartz slate]

then I wont buy the rings

[dull hollow]

it creates inaccuracy

[quartz slate]

I see

so u guys say a no to the poms if I wont be lubing them?

[whole bramble]

I'd pass

lubing also adds cost

[quartz slate]

ok thx for the feedback

[whole bramble]

you need a switch opener

lube, etc etc

[quartz slate]

yeah u need the tools and all the lube and its just too much

im no that deep into custom keyboard building yet hah

[whole bramble]

friend spilled soda on their kb 6 months ago

the switches needed to be cleaned

they still have not lubed all of them again

[quartz slate]

LMAO

if I do decide to lube the switches what do u guys recommend when doing it

[dull hollow]

105g0 for switches

[quartz slate]

so not the krytox from the wooting page?

[twilit schooner]

Krytox 205g0 yes

[devout raptor]

most are factory lubed theres no reason to lubr them yourself

it takes time and if you do it wrong they feel awful

[halcyon moss]

Global Menu has no place on big screens.

[devout raptor]

excuse me?

[crimson wigeon]

Ubipoop

[fair gull]

youll own nothing and be happy

[halcyon moss]

its never a good idea to leave funds on any platform.
they also have a nasty tendency to let them expire

[mild patrol]

Is this good for r7 5800x?

[whole bramble]

going to get a loud at higher utilisation, but decent

I would opt for something slight beefier though

oh wait that's am4

should be fine, as said, might get loud

[analog sinew]

yes

[mild patrol]

how about this one?

what

[devout raptor]

peerless assassin good

[analog sinew]

sure bigger never hurts

[wheat plume]

I like it
Makes the app cleaner looking
And I don't need to use the menu bar too often anyway

[winter patrol]

Phantom spirit better

[whole bramble]

Thermal take has the worst naming scheme

second to none

[vapid ruin]

better to have bad name than bad price

[bright briar]

@pale sigil was the 11/11 wait worth it?

[jaunty rose]

Can air coolers even improve beyond what they are now? And is there any point if cpu’s become more efficient as time passes

[rough osprey]

yes, more efficient doesn't mean that they gonna reduce the heat output

[jaunty rose]

I see..

[nimble arch]

About to buy a 4K Blu-ray player

[vapid ruin]

nice case

[vagrant pagoda]

you mean a xbox?

the irony of the xbox s/x playing 4k blurays and the ps4 not will always be funny

[nimble arch]

No, I purchased the Panasonic DP-UB820EBK.

£300

The 4K Blu-ray playback on any console isn't actually that great.

[vagrant pagoda]

one x is like 200 bucks used XD

[nimble arch]

If I were going to just rely on a console, I'd get a PS5 Pro with disc drive addon.

[vagrant pagoda]

other than triple layer disks the x/s dose fine

and the triple layer issue is fixed in later units

[pale sigil]

I wish I waited, it's 25 less lol

[bright briar]

more risky though

[pale sigil]

Wdym

[bright briar]

because its from aliexpress and those cpu are hit or miss

iirc from what dashi told me

[pale sigil]

I already got one from there

I'm saying I wish I waited

[bright briar]

oh

[bright briar]

i didnt know you bought it already

why dont you return it and buy again?

[pale sigil]

I paid £300 - £60 cash back in a month or two

[pale sigil]

It worth the hassle

[bright briar]

oh

the return policy is 30 days no?

gg

[slow anchor]

I changed a little from yesterday ( Im thinking of swapping primarys and use the pg32ucdm)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YY9zqH

[bright briar]

dont waste your money on a 5080

unless theres a crazy sale

just get a 5070 ti

[pale sigil]

It's not like Amazon

At least not always

[slow anchor]

thatd save me like 200ish usd right?

[bright briar]

depends

could be more

[slow anchor]

o

other than the gpu are the rest of the parts good>

[ashen spindle]

430 for your mainboard?

[slow anchor]

yeah, its an ITX mobo and those are usually costly

atleast I think so

[ashen spindle]

but you had one that was 190 last time that was fine lol

dont pay above 200 for a board unless theres a specifi reason for it

[slow anchor]

I lowkey forgot about the other one 😭

Thanks, just saved me some money

[frozen drift]

Actually, do you guys think people would "upgrade" from RTX 3060 12 GB to RTX 5060? Or would people rather just use things like lossless scaling, overclocking and just use it? Like nowadays, even 1080p can use more than 8 GB vram if you max out settings right?

Like does the RTX 3060(12 GB) hold up well in 2025?

[edgy knoll]

Not very well the more it goes on but it should be gettting the min 100 FPS depending on CPU in 1080P med-high settings

Ideally you get an AMD card price equilivent and they’re usually performing better

[frozen drift]

If you have a 1440p monitor and have a RTX 3060 12 GB, would you get the 5060? Or the lack of vram is just too detrimental?

[edgy knoll]

But the 3060-5060 argument mainly comes down to DLSS4 and frame generation

The 5060 would perform better on upscaling and frame generation/dlss4 in general over the 3060 so that’s preference based

[frozen drift]

The 5060 still has a decent amount of raw horsepower over the 3060 no?

[edgy knoll]

Yes it has higher kuda cores=more raw performance

If it’s a price issue and you don’t care about frame generation AMD cards at that price point are worth looking into

9060xt for example is stronger and can perform 1440P at a higher performance with FSR 3.0 scaling than that of the 3060 and even 5060 (discounting DLSS4)

[frozen drift]

yeah but my point is, can you actually even play games with RTX 5060 on demanding AAA titles with full settings on even in 1080p, does it not require more than 8 GB of vram? And again, what about someone who somehow has 1440p monitor and is stuck with 3060, would it be a good idea to get 5060, or is it just not worth it since the lack of vram is just that bad, as most games in 1440p easily takes more than 8 GB vram.

That's my question, sorry if I didn't make it clear.

[ashen spindle]

no you cant just compare core count alone between different generations

[frozen drift]

this too tbh, especially since blackwell is using a much better process node when compared to ampere.

[edgy knoll]

No, obviously tertiary effects come into play

[edgy knoll]

It’s grossly inaccurate and hard to pinpoint what setting themselves take up how much of the VRAM at each resolution. You would most likely have to compensate and lower some settings like grassshadows etc. it’s tough to say what the best call for you would be, if you could settle with frame generation and/or dlss4 upscaling which has little effect on VRAM, and downplay some settings but a slightly lower VRAM card with faster clock speeds then that’s your decision

You would get a better picture quality/fps increase with the 5060 overall if you did the above mentioned

[frozen drift]

So basically you would say "get 5060, you can play at 1440p, just lower down some settings like textures or what not and maintain within the vram limits, and it better than sticking with older GPUs"?

[ashen spindle]

also thats not quite true, fsr4 is the same or better quality than dlss at times, and frame gen has been better on amd since it started, they have better frame gen times

[edgy knoll]

What was wrong about that

[ashen spindle]

you said if you dont care about frame gen amd is an option, but amd has better frame gen

[edgy knoll]

Mmm I haven’t seen any reports on AMD v Nvidia frame gen timings so that ones on me

[ashen spindle]

yeah because almost nobody cares and frame gen is shit

also since you can override almost every fsr3 game to fsr4 now, you get the better upscaler too

[edgy knoll]

As for the FSR 4 vs DLSS4 tho I haven’t tested FSR 4 fully personally so didn’t want to mention it, only FSR 3

I’ve heard they made FSR 4 actually good tho but when I actually used it, it was very mid to game on. Maybe since I don’t like upscaling but just raw performance on native res

[ashen spindle]

I mean fsr4 has been good since release of it, better than dlss3 and more or less the same as the dlss4 model

I also dont use either but its the same now so not really a reason for one card over the other anymore

[edgy knoll]

Really? I don’t expect them to develop that fast

[umbral heron]

FSR4 is surprisingly really nice
But for frame generation... The biggest problem I guess is that it's really good if you already have that 80~100fps before framegen, but companies desperately want to use it to hit stable 60fps

[ashen spindle]

wym fast? frame gen was something amd did long long before with fluid motion for video frame generation

so its nothing new really, FSR1-3 were behind not really because they cant make it better but because they had to make it so it works on everything since they didnt have as much hardware for it

[edgy knoll]

Not frame gen, fsr4

But maybe I was out of the loop of AMD for too long

On par with DLSS is something to be proud of for being an underdog in GPUs until somewhat recently

[ashen spindle]

yeah for that as I said, mostly down to older gens not having the hardware for it

[edgy knoll]

I was thinking of xferring GPUs but I haven’t bothered researching enough into higher end AMD cards. I had the 5090, was great and all, but it’s w.e in the end

Or I might stick with my lil 5070ti fella

Trying its best

But alas… I don’t 4k so 7900xtx would be a wasted upgrade

[ashen spindle]

9070xt would be the one you want anyway

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah buying something that's considered legacy is not the greatest idea

[umbral heron]

XTX is not yet

But yeah, after driver updates for for 9070xt

[edgy knoll]

Yeahhhhh but at that point the 5070 ti is too similar. Although I dislike dlss4 sometimes. Depends the game

Wait those RDNA 5 GPUs look promising… I’m tired of Nvidia slop

[umbral heron]

If only they release something close to xx80 class

[ashen spindle]

well 80class they will probably compete with

[umbral heron]

11080XTX

[quartz slate]

Hey guys anyone recommend any coiled cable for the 60he v2

[reef patrol]

Ours?

[quartz slate]

I saw that on the page it says it is not compatible with the 60he v2

Thats why I was asking but if u recommend I will buy it then

[reef patrol]

No. You misread Wooting 2HE as 60HEv2

One is a full sized keyboard, the other is not

[pale sigil]

Went over budget a little but it has a first GPU slot

[bright briar]

building a white pc?

take the wrap off i wanna see the board

[pale sigil]

Coincidence

It was the cheapest I felt comfortable using

[bright briar]

i almost choose that board but went with asus instead

[pale sigil]

Originally I was going with Asus b650m tuf but unfortunately second slot GPU and it's out of stock everywhere

[quartz slate]

Ok I will trust u fren

[sudden imp]

When will this ai bubble burst already 🙁

Even bill gates admits it’s a bubble

[warm ore]

https://geizhals.eu/gigabyte-b850m-force-a3597222.html insanely solid board right now on budget, clocks great aswell

[unkempt lake]

stop sexualizing the board

[magic minnow]

This is the best bang for your buck mobo right now @bright briar

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B850M-MORTAR-WIFI

Damn!! This one has 4xM.2 slots

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b850-g-gaming-wifi/

[plush stirrup]

My ISP only has 200Mbps of capacity available in my town atm D:

[bright briar]

i got the asus rog strix b650e-f mobo

for 219 cad before tax

newegg do good deals

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG4ektofzkI

[obtuse zenith]

Will they provide a warranty if anything happens to my product during delivery?

[fair gull]

delivery to the address provided to use is covered

[vagrant pagoda]

"Who watches the watchers? Palantir."

[wheat plume]

Is there a way to save my plasma desktop layout like how globla themes can automatically change the panels for you when applied?

[jaunty rose]

Finally got a power cord for this thing, had it under my bed for a while because it was given to me with a few missing cables

[dim epoch]

Can anyone help me install an aio

Really struggling w the cables

[reef patrol]

Surely there's a manual?

[dim epoch]

Not for the wires

[reef patrol]

Shitty manual then.

[lyric hatch]

I'm sure someone has a YouTube tutorial

[steady sail]

Whats the AIO brand

[pale sigil]

It's ugly NGL

[steady sail]

Tbh most white mobo’s are meh

[reef patrol]

You clearly have no taste.

[dim epoch]

I tried it but I don’t understand the terms

[dim epoch]

Tr

[lyric hatch]

Pump usually goes into cpu_opt and radiator fan goes into CPU fan

Which are labeled on the motherboard

Or your motherboard manual will have something this to show where they are

[reef patrol]

Trace the wires back to the parts.

It looks like you have wires going from each fan? Is there a part of the cable that links them into a single cable?

You probably have one or two cables going out of the CPU cooler itself?

[tribal dirge]

I love ROG strix

they look so cool

[dim epoch]

These come out of cpu block

[reef patrol]

RGB

[reef patrol]

Fans go into the female plugs. Then the other end goes into your CPU_FAN header port.

[dim epoch]

Only problem is idk how to wire the fans

I had a noctua before this and was very different

Cable wise

[reef patrol]

You take the end of each fan and push them into these.

This turns three fans into a single cable.

And that goes into this one. Typically found above the RAM sticks.

[dim epoch]

Each fans has 2 cables with these

[dim epoch]

The pump is plugged into the opt

I’m just really struggling with figuring out how to wire all the fans into the one cable

[wheat plume]

the purple is SO PRETTY 😍

idk how much it costs though ;=; probably over 1000

[reef patrol]

Meh.... it'll be covered in a cover anyway if you're sensible.

[empty wren]

Only to be obsolete the next year

[reef patrol]

Just got the 13R and it's been great so far aside from some silly UI changes that I bet all Android phones got with 15

[wheat plume]

what silly UI change?

OnePlus use ColorOS so its probably a change from there xd

well, they use OxygenOS which is almost the same as ColorOS

[reef patrol]

Such as not letting me disable the media player showing on the sides of the Notch. Or how opening the "task manager" automatically shift to the last app open, not the current one.

[wheat plume]

that first one is probably OxygenOS change cause thats not a stock feature, second is also what Samsung has always done

[reef patrol]

At any rate - No options to tweak. 😄

[wheat plume]

yeh :/

NothingOS = best Android skin

(imo)

its clean, has useful QoL features, and no bloat

Well, its gonna have bloat from version 4 onwards 🤦‍♀️ 3 preinstalled social media apps and lock screen ads

so maybe its gonna become the worst Android skin

[halcyon moss]

Samsung has the same media feature

[lyric hatch]

OneUI has the most customization options and it's not even close

[wheat plume]

True but it also looks horrific

[halcyon moss]

I like it.

I honestly don't get why you think it's ugly.

[wheat plume]

mainly the status bar icons and the really dull grey semi-transparent notificiation shade

this looks bad to me

[halcyon moss]

That's dark Grey for me atm. I don't like the super round pills, but it's ok

What are good icons?

[wheat plume]

I like the Pixel icons or the NothingOS icons a lot more

[halcyon moss]

Example?

[reef patrol]

I use squarehome and light icons. Have been for years. I don't really care about the pulldown menu. Never used it much.

[wheat plume]

these icons

and the new Android 16 ones on Pixel are super pretty also

[halcyon moss]

Your status has icons cover very little info

[wheat plume]

huh?

[reef patrol]

No text under them.

[halcyon moss]

And these look the same to me

[wheat plume]

omfh why must Plasma desktop be so fucking unstable????

its frozen, I cant interact with the desktop at all except krunner and the apps I have open already

[halcyon moss]

Because it has always been beta. Always

[wheat plume]

I want to use Plasma desktop, I love the customisation but wtf

I did nothing unusual and its frozen like this

[halcyon moss]

Look at dmesg

[umbral heron]

(pkill -9 plasmashell && plasmashell &) && disown
Alway works

[lyric hatch]

Honestly I just use this sidemenu settings I have set my side swipe down and never use the top ones

[wheat plume]

parse error near '&&'

[lyric hatch]

Honestly if you have a big phone swiping from the top is silly

[umbral heron]

That enough, fixed

[halcyon moss]

True. But from the honesty it's fairly easy. Just swipe down

[wheat plume]

I can swipe down on the nav bar to open the notification shade :D

[leaden kiln]

do they sell small phones

[halcyon moss]

Nope

[analog sinew]

smell phones

[lyric hatch]

Much easier

[halcyon moss]

Yeah true. But I don't use it that much to justify something like that

[leaden kiln]

one handed mode exists but I never use it, I just swipe from the top, so used to it now but I never found it super bothersome

[halcyon moss]

How did you get that?

[leaden kiln]

that’s on ios, but I think it’s similar on android, swiping down on nav bar or the gesture handle

Might have to enable it in settings

[halcyon moss]

Ahhj

[pale sigil]

Ye one handed mode is different on Android depending on the OS

[leaden kiln]

It looked so funny using it on the fold since the whole screen just becomes a small square a quarter of the screen

[halcyon moss]

Weird

[pale sigil]

Unfortunately discord isn't great for this stuff

Pixel does this however

[halcyon moss]

So does Samsung

But.. Smaller

[pale sigil]

Are you not on about um

[halcyon moss]

Can't screenshot it

[pale sigil]

Add drawer

Where each app you can change the window size

[pale sigil]

Ah nvm

Ye so it just uses stock rom settings

[lyric hatch]

If only there was like a full customizable settings for using your phone one handed 👀

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG4ektofzkI
Damn Tech Jesus going ham

🫵 ♻️

[vagrant pagoda]

fam you got like 5 min tops to post a gn video here

[marsh glade]

True..

Ooeh new coasters

[wheat plume]

I dont use a case, but I would like to get a screen protector to prevent damage and scratches

[leaden kiln]

I put on a new screen protector after my matte protector cracked, but it has black edges, and they’re big enough to cover the unread indicators on discord which is a mild annoyance

[wheat plume]

OnePlus 15 has a processor dedicated to just making the animations and resposiveness smoother as possible

[leaden kiln]

I got it with the phone and the packaging said it cost like 500 yen or something so expected i guess

[leaden kiln]

a gpu

[wheat plume]

basically yeah

a dGPU :D

How many updates is is getting?? I must find out...

Seems 4 Android upgrades and 6 years of security patches

So it comes with Android 16, so it will get 17, 18, 19 and 20

I am convinced people just like to complain for no reason just to shit on Android
Ive seen people get angry that the OnePlus 15 has way too big bezels, surely they are joking, fucking hopefully

they are the smallest you can get on Android, basically as thin as the iPhones ones are

[lyric hatch]

See more complaints that everyone just seems to be copying apple which is valid

[analog sinew]

can we copy oneplus instead and get rid of that camera bump shit

[wheat plume]

Literally every flagship is turning into iPhone with the sharp edges and the flat sides and the power and volume buttons in the same spot

[leaden kiln]

can we copy apple and remove the sim slot for bigger batteries

[lyric hatch]

How about we just put bigger batteries without removing stuff

[leaden kiln]

We all know that’s not happening

[lyric hatch]

OnePlus 15 is already 7300mah

So it's already way bigger than iPhones

[wheat plume]

I assume it's that new silicon carbide tech? Or whatever it's called

[leaden kiln]

ah you got me there
(I would still rather have the extra battery space than a sim slot)

[wheat plume]

We don't need to copy Apple
They only remove shit we need

Headphone jack
Charger brick
SD card slot
Sim card slot if you are American

[leaden kiln]

We do not need a charger brick to add to the pile every phone

[wheat plume]

When you said they used the space the sd card slot takes up to add a bigger battery....that's not at all true

The American iPhones have a solid plastic brick where the card slot would be inside them

So it's not using the space at all for any good purpose

[leaden kiln]

Not this gen, on 17 the esim models have bigger batteries

Afaik

[ashen spindle]

charger was removed because eu regulation said stop putting chargers into everything

sim card got removed because you can just use esim and get a bigger battery instead

thats just a netwin

[wheat plume]

Ok maybe the bigger battery is the case on the 17 range

Not the first range when they removed it though xd

Wait are they eSim only in the EU and whatnot now also??

[ashen spindle]

yes they didnt add it on the first version but its still removing physical space to have room for other things

[leaden kiln]

I think the air is worldwide but the others are esim only just in na

[wheat plume]

So they have a smaller battery outside of NA?

[leaden kiln]

Yes

[wheat plume]

Wack

[ashen spindle]

blame it on EU ISPs being slow as fuck to incorporate esim

[wheat plume]

all the ones here have them, I think

the major ones anyway 😅 theres a supermarket here that has their own network and idk if they have eSIM or not

[nimble arch]

eSIM > physical SIM

[wheat plume]

They are amazing for travelling

just get an eSIM for your trip

[umbral heron]

Isn't the difference like 5% anyway?

[wheat plume]

idk

probably xd

[ashen spindle]

yeah its some space but obviously not enough to double capacity or anything the likes

still a benefit though

[umbral heron]

Looks like all providers already have eSIM as option here
And had for few years already

[nimble arch]

Some of the network providers in the UK are slow to adopt eSIM etc but that's because the MVNOs are somewhat restrictive.

[wheat plume]

probably best setup if you travel a lot is to have your main sim be physical so you can use the eSIM for travelling

cause phones usually support just one eSIM

[umbral heron]

Yeah, all providers here have it since 2021

[leaden kiln]

is that true

[ashen spindle]

idk most non budget phones I know just support multiple esims

[umbral heron]

It's the same as with traditional SIM
A lot of phones support 2 eSIMs

[wheat plume]

damn literally barely any bezel, so cool, still hate how round the display corners are though

[nimble arch]

The UK is currently going through a 3G shutdown and 2G shouldn't be long after

Landlines should be gone in the near future as well

[umbral heron]

3G shutdown I understand
But 2G should be kept as a fail-safe

[nimble arch]

I say soon, it'll be 2030s at the earliest.

The issue is a lot of old alarm systems etc that have cellular fallbacks

Plus a lot of smart energy meters use 2G instead

[whole bramble]

sim > esim

any day of the week

[leaden kiln]

enlighten me

do you have a pin on your sim?

[whole bramble]

i can swap my sim over 0 hassle no network needed

my sim can't get corrupted and stop working like ive seen on esims

[whole bramble]

i dont

i dont see why youd do that?

[leaden kiln]

because your number can be accessed if someone steals your phone, without any password

A lot of people have 2fa or account resets connected to their number

[whole bramble]

thats cantually an attack vector i had never considered

i will look into this now, ty

[umbral heron]

You still have to access network to download configuration from ISP
eSIM is the same, but instead putting a SIM inside you do a photo of QR code

[cerulean pumice]

Guys i need help

[umbral heron]

Ain't we all

[whole bramble]

welp guess my only remaining point is

i dont like the hassle of e services

and the esim cant still get fucked up

ive seen that at $work

[minor citrus]

I‘d say the same if I still had to work with flutter

[ashen spindle]

hassle of eservices?

[umbral heron]

Front-end dev?
Come here you poor thing

[cerulean pumice]

It's not about flutter lol

[ashen spindle]

and sure esims can get fucked up, but same can happen to physical sims

[cerulean pumice]

Also not that lol

[whole bramble]

english left the chat

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragonballsuper-dragonball-meme-language-of-gods-gif-14707991

[ashen spindle]

lmao shouldnt type while watching the other monitor

[whole bramble]

major skill issue

[cerulean pumice]

My question is how can i wait for my 60he v2 lmao

[minor citrus]

Just don‘t. Get all other Wooting keyboards in the meantime

[pale sigil]

Esims are neat but one time I scanned, it didn't connect, I re scanned and said it was already used.

Had to wait two days to get a new qr code

[cerulean pumice]

I thought the same but 😆

[whole bramble]

this is the type of shit i want to avoid

[ashen spindle]

I mean thats just the same as getting a scratched physical sim

[cerulean pumice]

I would pay to much

[ashen spindle]

and part of what I meant eu ISPs not getting their shit together because that shouldnt happen

[whole bramble]

very rare

in compaeison to a qr code fucking upp

[umbral heron]

awae?
Here you just login to ISP portal and can generate eSIM either in portal or to email
Takes like 30 seconds to get a new one

[ashen spindle]

yeah but again thats the ISP fucking up not an inherent esim issue

[whole bramble]

increased complexiry

big companies are not good at making reliable sofrware

[umbral heron]

From 56-bit DSA encryption in traditional SIMs? Hopefully

[whole bramble]

ngl never thought about encryption achemes for sims

[umbral heron]

BTW https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1oukzov/the_eu_council_danish_presidency_is_trying_to/

[whole bramble]

its a shame sweden wrote cc 1

[umbral heron]

We can thank this punchable face for most of this stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Minister_(Denmark)

[whole bramble]

people tried reaching out to their reps here

a single party responded

out of 7

[umbral heron]

Interesting timing https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/250820/view/609801530463226435

[halcyon moss]

| Automatically prefer installing the Oasis Driver for Windows Mixed Reality when running on a Windows version too new to support the Windows driver.

[ashen spindle]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Kaspersky-Linux-AV-Home-Users

now that is a sign of linux being used more xD

[unkempt lake]

Wasn't kapersky banned in like... most countries

Cuz russia

[unkempt lake]

...

Yes i saw it mentions the us ban in the article

But i tbought other countries banned it too

I know canada banned it from like anything governmental

Same wirh the uk i believe?

Anyhow i wouldn't trust a russian antivirus

In the current climate

[ashen spindle]

it also mentions its not yet GDPR compliant

[sudden imp]

I had to stop watching when the CEO stated their product is used to sometimes “kill people”. Like what???? I’m not in the head space for this shit mannnn. I hope the AI bubble bursts soon….

[plush stirrup]

I can't play GTA V on my home internet, I hate this country man xD

3TB datacap, 500Mbps drops to 200Mbps because of capacity issues, and I need to use VPN to play GTA or if I want to use any US services (if I join a US VC on discord, people are robots)

[unkempt lake]

I mean yeah surveillance can be used to kill people they just sell the surveillance tools to the government, what the gov does with it isn't their problem if they wanna track down an enemy of the state and make them vanish then they will

[ashen spindle]

oh no palantir does a lot more than just over a glorified cctv service xD

[unkempt lake]

Yeah ik there's defense shit too

[pale sigil]

Indeed

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume

[plush stirrup]

afaik they do give people insight into the code

I think my government still uses it, or at least did in the past

[tribal kelp]

Palantir is absolutely nuts.

Imagine your worst dystopian paranoid fever dream about surveillance.

Palantir can do it, or come close to it.

(the company)

[tribal kelp]

Hannah Montana Linux cracks me up every time.

[latent mural]

The NSA controls all US antivirus software

They control Discord, Social Media, Windows

Its just switching from security agency

All antivirus companies backgate sell all data to government security orgs

Well in fact you dont even need to have an antivirus

Discord, Google, Meta and Apple are enough for knowing all information about a person

[umbral heron]

Meta should change the name to DataHarvester9000

[latent mural]

I mean if you think about it Discord is worse

Because it attracts minors to use it same as Roblox

In Meta while Instagram is still there

Most products are not directed to minors

[latent mural]

Plus gets sold around like a hot potato

Microsoft is looking last a read a few years ago idk if it went through

[umbral heron]

AWS and Azure died yesterday yet again

And now half of MS websites still don't work

[analog sinew]

tf

[lunar elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1429172046046433390/IMG_7512.gif

[lunar elm]

quadruple DNF ftw

[nimble arch]

[umbral heron]

We are currently in "it's so over" in F1 Ferrari cycle, please consult the graph
When your car is shit, your strategists are shit, you have 7x world champion in your team
But Ferrari chairman says it's drivers' fault and they should speak less
Truly, John Elkann is a worthy successor of Enzo Ferrari, both are egotistical pricks

Ah, wait, maybe they should speak less, because Ferrari is so bent on getting Italian strategists who don't understand English almost at all, so it won't change a thing

[slow anchor]

Ferraris currently in the its over stage

😔

[marsh glade]

Ferrari is my favorite F1 team

For the entertainment factor

Same with Lewis Hamilton, favorite F1 driver because he's rages so hard on comms

A fun drinking game - if Hamilton comes on the radio and doesn't complain, take a shot

Great way to stay sober during the race

[umbral heron]

[nimble arch]

Ferrari are my favourite team because of Michael Schumacher

At least they’re World Endurance Champions this year

[marsh glade]

Because you have to have world champion level of endurance to put up with their bullshit or?

[umbral heron]

I like Piastri and Verstappen, mostly for their driving styles
Oscar drives clean and smooth
Max grabs his car by neck and goes "who do you think is in charge here"
Where most drivers would try to break on wet parts he just powers through

[marsh glade]

I also like Pastry

Donuts

And of course, Verstappen is a national icon 🇳🇱

[lunar elm]

Max Verstappen on his way to calculate what position to start in Brazil 2026

[jagged ember]

🥶

[lunar elm]

Me waiting for the year Max wins Singapore

[slate elbow]

can anyone explain whats up with switch selector feature that is planned to release..?

[reef patrol]

What's the question?

[slate elbow]

just wondering what it is for

[reef patrol]

Our switches are 4mm actuation range - Not all switches are.

Currently Wootility assumes that is the truth, so the math becomes a bit tricky with shorter actuation range switches.

The upcoming feature will let you define these values, so it's a lot easier to configure Wootility for your exact switches.

[marsh glade]

In general the idea is to align how the firmware handles switches that have different characteristics; total travel length, switch stability, those kinds of things

[slate elbow]

alr ty

[marsh glade]

I believe it will eventually also be possible to add whether or not you have modded your switches to have O-rings to reduce travel, and how the firmware approaches the end of keypress for that situation

Not sure if that's coming in the first release though

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n28JWvbs47U

[nimble arch]

No, they won all three Hypercar trophies in the FIA World Endurance Championship.

Ferrari 499P my beloved.

[pale sigil]

Now I slep because I've only slept for 3 hours

[minor zealot]

ohhhhh nice, i called the company yesterday for my pc and swapped to a new motherboard

i picked a b650 first but then went to a x870e

[pale sigil]

Why?

[minor zealot]

it was only 90 euro more expensive, pcie gen5 gpu and 1 ssd slot and newer chipset

prob won't notice the difference tbh but still

if ima already going to pay that much for a system im not saving on the motherboard

[umbral heron]

b850 has the same things and is cheaper
And it's not like you'll be using pcie5 anyway, even 5090 barely maxes out pcie 3.0

[minor zealot]

b 650 not 850

and the b850 and x870e where both the same price

🤷‍♂️

[umbral heron]

worth

[minor zealot]

also more convenient if i want to install a third m.2 later since on the x870e its not sharing bandwith with anything

[pale sigil]

only

[ashen spindle]

newer chipset
looks inside
literally the same chipset

800 boards for amd are using the same chipset as 600

[umbral heron]

Ah wait, 90 EUR not PLN
Then not worth

[pale sigil]

I was like you child, then quin whipped me into shape.

Almost spent £230

And I ended up with gen 5 m2 even though my nvme is 3

I really need to replace that m2...

Ideally I should have done it while building so I can clone the drive. (I only re-installed windows 2 months ago, cba doing it again)

[lunar elm]

https://tenor.com/view/humbled-cat-gif-bie-gif-17493722235118145820

[unkempt lake]

it would have been moronic

Also what about me xD

[shell light]

made a mistake in my billing address and i requested to change it hope that i won't have any troubles with that

[umbral heron]

I wonder if real these leaks from Japanese site

[vapid ruin]

gonna inhale a huge copium and just say yes

[umbral heron]

https://komodostation.com/?attachment_id=413748

[vapid ruin]

but it has that AI generated feel to it

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that's why I am really skeptical

[lyric hatch]

Probably better to ask in #🌐│pc_gear

[celest badger]

woops, youre right, sorry!

[umbral heron]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamframe

[leaden kiln]

haeh

[umbral heron]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontroller

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

CUBE

[leaden kiln]

isnt 10mm of ipd adjustment on the small end

even the index went down to 58 instead of 60

[vapid ruin]

POIJUASFOILKJASDOILJUF

[umbral heron]

[vapid ruin]

IT"S REALLL

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED

[rough osprey]

lcd

gg

[leaden kiln]

2160x2160

[umbral heron]

ARM

So Proton ARM is real

[vapid ruin]

I think it's also meant to go with the steam machine

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah they say it's streaming-first

[leaden kiln]

usb c 2.0
iphone base model is back lets goo

[rough osprey]

so nothing groundbreaking

sad

[vapid ruin]

Hmm, I mean it's a step to make arm gaming better.

[leaden kiln]

the hype was a bit much for this one

[umbral heron]

I dunno, Proton ARM is a big deal honestly

[crimson wigeon]

Can't wait to install a real OS on the Frame, because let's be real SteamOS is a bit... lacking..

[vapid ruin]

It has eye tracking, assuming it's just around $1k, it might be a nice grab.

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU3ru09HTng

[vapid ruin]

also like, if the non gaming/just watching youtube is as nice of a experience like quest 3, it'll also be something that I more want to get a hand of.

[fair gull]

thats been there since a while hasnt it

[plush stirrup]

Arch based VR headset, damn xD

[vapid ruin]

arch based vr headset with an ARM processor

[fair gull]

wait is the idea the games run on the headset or streamed to it

[rough osprey]

steam machine is like a console alternative?

[ashen spindle]

both

[vapid ruin]

both

[plush stirrup]

no face tracking sadly only eye tracking 😭

[vapid ruin]

I mean, foveated rendering only need the eye

[fair gull]

also impressive that the weight is like half the index

[nimble arch]

Ehh, too low spec IMHO

Also listed as HDMI 2.0 for an early 2026 release

[rough osprey]

will it beat a xbox

[plush stirrup]

After using vrchat with facetracking, it's a requirement for me at this point 🥲

[leaden kiln]

wait it still has finger tracking, thats pretty hell yeah

[ashen spindle]

probably because hdmi forum is blocking 2.1 for amds open source driver

[vapid ruin]

Maybe somebody can do an external face tracking?

[ashen spindle]

also, why 2.1 for a cut down 7600 gpu anyway

[nimble arch]

8GB VRAM in 2026

[crimson wigeon]

Ouch only 8 gigs

[upper imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmKrKTwtukE

[nimble arch]

Steam Machine might as well be Steam e-waste IMHO

[ashen spindle]

why do you think 8gb would be an issue there..

[distant tapir]

HL3 teaser

[fair gull]

sad they didnt announce a frame price yet.

[ashen spindle]

its a 110w gpu that thing isnt going to even come close to where you want more vram

[fair gull]

if the price is good on the frame i might actually try it

[ashen spindle]

like a rx 7600 uses 165wTDP

this is even less, 8gb is more than enough

[tribal kelp]

Anyone remember when they did this before?

[upper imp]

I have both flying around

[plush stirrup]

those exist, but it is a thing hanging off your headset, something else that can break xD
my VR setup is already existing on 'I hope it keeps working'

[vapid ruin]

lmao

well, I do hope with steam frame, meta will finally do quest 4 with eye tracking.

that or they abbandon vr and I'm forced to move on to steam frame lmao.

[ashen spindle]

foveated streaming is massive

[fair gull]

why would they invest more in the quest when they seem to be going the AR route with their rayban collab

[tribal kelp]

SteamFrame looks like Ready Player 1 title poster.

[unkempt lake]

For the use case it should be okay?

No one is buying this for AAA gaming anyways

Or expecting to crank shit up

[fair gull]

i think it just aims to capture the console market and introduce it to pc gaming

especially given the steam controller release as well

[unkempt lake]

points to alienware alpha steam machine

Literally the same thing

[vapid ruin]

no matter what, W valve. Making linux gaming better, now on VR!

[fair gull]

yes just with a more mature OS

[unkempt lake]

Low spec machines to get console gamers interested

[umbral heron]

CUBE

[fair gull]

not really about the spec

but the focus on price point

[plush stirrup]

let's hope they don't abandon the vr market, more competition is good

[unkempt lake]

we dont know the price

[fair gull]

yes but you can get console share if its priced above all consoles

[plush stirrup]

quest pro 2 with face tracking when? xD

[fair gull]

if you want to appeal to console gamers you need to basically be a console in price, usability and ease of setup on any home tv

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-past-within-rusty-lake-cube-escape-vanderboom-golden-cube-gif-16175964193537691280

[unkempt lake]

no one cares about that besides vr chat players

[vapid ruin]

hmm, oh yeah the price.

Just hope steam frame isn't 1.5k or higher.

[marsh glade]

I will be getting 2 steam Controllers, without any shadow of a doubt.

Will I also get a Steam Frame... hmmmm

[plush stirrup]

still! xD

[fair gull]

i know what id use a bonus for if we get one lol

[unkempt lake]

My steam controller was... fine but it broke

[lyric hatch]

Looks like a beefy controller

[marsh glade]

I've had mine for over ten years now, still runs great

Favorite controller I've ever had

[spiral island]

Yeah, I'm definitely in for a controller. As an owner of the Index that kinda got over the novelty of VR, I'm probably gonna pass on the Frame.

[umbral heron]

Am getting steam controller and depends on price am getting CUBE

[spiral island]

The Steam Deck controller is awesome for handling everything at least pretty well, was a huge improvement over the original Steam Controller.

[fair gull]

thats my main worry is that i will be as unimpressed with VR as i was on the index release when i tried a friends index

[crimson wigeon]

Controller and frame for me

[unkempt lake]

But you already have a pc

[vapid ruin]

The pain part is that I have to prop get the frame through third party. Steam Deck isn't even sold through steam here.

[marsh glade]

Tony you should get the Frame so that I can come visit you and try it out

[fair gull]

i will definitely get it but prob refund if possible when i dont like it

or i should say i get it if i can refund it

[spiral island]

Part of it was definitely the 1. Wired headset, and 2. Having to have whirring LIDAR nodes running, so with those two annoyances eliminated it's definitely gonna be a more pleasant experience.

[umbral heron]

Yeah, but cube is smol and will fit in backpack
Plus looks like it'll run GW2 and I could plug it in to TV

[fair gull]

i was just underwhelmed by the games mainly

[unkempt lake]

Would you actually carry it tho?

[spiral island]

Yeah, no way around that. After a few weeks there's not really anything more impressive than Beat Saber - which admittely is great, but it's a huge investment for that.

[marsh glade]

Be the Chad we know you are and bring a CRT monitor too

[fair gull]

stuff like that isnt even what im interested in lol. thats the sad part about it all

[umbral heron]

Really backpack-able

[pale sigil]

I'm extremely interested in the steam machine

[leaden kiln]

my $1500 headset laying in its box 👴

[fair gull]

boneworks looks interesting but i couldnt play that as it wasnt out when i tried the index

[spiral island]

Steam machine is interesting for basically being a Steam Deck for my TV - though I assume it's fairly non-upgradeable which is more acceptable for me in a portable, less so for a desktop PC-ish thing.

Boneworks was neat, but also was very easy to get nauseated

Oh I fogot Alyx, that was also very cool

But point being, it's a pretty short list

[fair gull]

yeah

thats my main worry

the list being short and the frame costing too much (for the list length)

[ashen spindle]

thats why one selling point is using flatscreen games on it

[rough osprey]

https://youtu.be/356rZ8IBCps?si=Y3JbIA7qGGRvBQoi

maybe got more infos idk

[tribal kelp]

I doubt that I'd make the plunge into a VR set until it was mass-adopted, and this is probably a decision many users are making.

Too many very expensive VR sets have come and gone.

[fair gull]

id be interested if it could be used as a virtual screen so i can have an arbitrary size screen (or multiple screens) and not have to invest into multiple odyssey g9s

[spiral island]

I'm pretty surprised they're taking a second outing into VR, since it seems to be on a distinct downward trend in terms of adoption and hype for the last ~5 years

[tribal kelp]

Occulus Rift was all the hype for a while, and now it's basically dead.

[marsh glade]

Damn transparent would go hard

[vapid ruin]

HMM, colored passthrough addon possible.

[tribal kelp]

still looks like Ready Player 1

[spiral island]

I'm pretty sure being into transparent tech dates you 😉

[ashen spindle]

its not really dead you can still just use it? hardware just gets better so newer options are better

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[tribal kelp]

By dead I mean sales are dead.

[spiral island]

Sure, but without adoption who will develop for it, y'know?

[nimble arch]

It's need to be price competitive versus a console for a start but equally, Valve must solve the problem with many popular console games not being on Steam or not running on SteamOS due to anti-cheat compatibility. Fortnite, Roblox, and Genshin Impact are three games not on Steam but immensely popular on PlayStation and Xbox. Meanwhile Call of Duty, FIFA, and Battlefield don't run due to anti-cheat restrictions. If they can't solve both of these problems in the next six months, any console user that's an early adopter will be very upset.

[ashen spindle]

why do sales matter to you as auser though?

[fair gull]

wait foveated works just on top of the games graphics pipeline?

damn

might make some games look really good and run higher fps

[vapid ruin]

Also talks about the potential pricing... HMM It being $700 is possible. O fuck, I'm becoming more and more tempted for it.

[spiral island]

You're buying an expensive platform, so you either have to accept it for the library it already has, or hope that it really takes off, which it hasn't really happened.

[ashen spindle]

which goes back to the steam frame letting you play flatscreen games as if you had a monitor

[spiral island]

That's super impressive that foveated works out of the box on any title

Hey, I'm not knocking it. Like I said, I have an Index (sitting in my closet) - it's not not cool as hell.

[unkempt lake]

What they need to do is fix steam verified

Ornelse this device is doomed to dail

[fair gull]

do we know if it can also just do multi monitor with windows/macos for example in the vr space

[ashen spindle]

hmm not sure

[unkempt lake]

How about have a verified program that's not administered by donkeys

[spiral island]

I know w/ the index when I tried it, it was basically just a large virtual screen, or you could access your desktop directly, but there wasn't an implementation of multi-monitor.

[nimble arch]

Valve are never going to moderate their platform correctly, that costs too much money.

[spiral island]

I honestly don't care about the verified program, I just launch titles I wanna play and see if it goes (which it does 9 time outta 10) 🙂

[crimson wigeon]

Depending on how locked down it is I'm sure people will figure out some neat tricks to accomplish such things

[rough osprey]

so steam controller got tmr but wooting doesnt

(joking)

[nimble arch]

Same reason why the store is filled with slop (also applies to the Nintendo eShop).

Steam was a cooler store front when it was gatekept by higher fees and Valve actually enforcing rules.

Steam Greenlight was the first mistake.

[fair gull]

its running linux so i wouldnt be surprised if you cant just attach a keyboard to the usb-c

[nimble arch]

But that's another discussion entirely

[crimson wigeon]

Indeed probably a lot more open than the competition, but it's still ARM based so I wonder how easily you could install another operating system and shit

[fair gull]

dont need another OS just... that it would be multiple monitors according to my windows pc/mac

[crimson wigeon]

Well something something get a real operating system x d, but yeah people will probably figure something out... that might involve those dummy plugs or have people figured out how to make virtual screens on Windows yet?

[fair gull]

yes

theres a driver

it just spawns screens

[crimson wigeon]

So you would do that and then shunt them over to the frame

[fair gull]

yeah the only issue is they are always there

[crimson wigeon]

Script it to only turn them on when framing

[fair gull]

idk if i trust windows enough to unload/load drivers all the time

[sudden imp]

THATS WHY HES THE GOAT (Gabe delivering once again)

Wish it released sooner since I have already bought a controller for silksong

[fair gull]

hm apparently theres now better options than IddSampleDriver

even with HDR support

impressive

https://github.com/VirtualDrivers/Virtual-Display-Driver

oh its even controlable via batch/ps commands. ok might actually be able to do this. just leaves macos then

[pale sigil]

Gigabyte bios is so ass

[sharp badger]

The new steam controller looks uncomfy

[sharp badger]

It's been fine for me, what's the problem?

[thick ermine]

To be fair, they’re launching 3 new pieces of hardware…so I guess they can count to 3. HL3, Portal 3, Counter-Strike 3, Team Fortress 3, Dota 3, and Left for Dead 3 all Coming Soon™?

[thick ermine]

People said that about the steam deck, yet time and time again it’s praised as one of the most comfortable handhelds

[sharp badger]

Steam machine 6x more powerful than SD?

What's the SM specs?

Ah nvm found it

[thick ermine]

Supposed to run 4k 60 pretty well. I’m sure if you knock down the quality to low/med you can get up to 120fps on most games.

[sharp badger]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine?l=english
CPU
Semi-custom AMD Zen 4 6C / 12T
up to 4.8 GHz, 30W TDP

GPU
Semi-Custom AMD RDNA3 28CUs
2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDP

RAM
16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM

[ashen spindle]

its a 7600m and the 220 hawk point laptop chip

[pale sigil]

My OS is so snappy 😮

[sharp badger]

16GB though?

[pale sigil]

thats fine

[sharp badger]

Would prefer more

[thick ermine]

It’s meant to be a console-like experience. 16gb is still fine for that

[marsh glade]

Wonder if you can swap the RAM out for an upgrade in the future

[thick ermine]

Likely. Prob just using sodimm modules

[ashen spindle]

there will be no need to ugprade ram, the box isnt really strong enough for that

[thick ermine]

Maybe valve is the reason for the ram shortage 😂😂

[crimson wigeon]

Eh I would have expected at least 32 in this day and age

[sharp badger]

''Steam machine is a PC''

[crimson wigeon]

Since games are just so god damn memory hungry these days

Or maybe it's just unoptimized crap like Star Citizen that likes to eat close to 40 gigs

[marsh glade]

Scam Citizen*

[thick ermine]

But at its core to provide console-like functionality. The goal isn’t to win any hardware benchmarking

[lyric hatch]

I imagine those games that use more ram are likely only pushing that ram at settings the steam box can not run at

[sharp badger]

Sure

[ashen spindle]

this semes to be a 2+4 laptop chip and a laptop gpu this isnt pushing high end

[marsh glade]

What should I expect for performance? The specs themselves don't inform me of much

[ashen spindle]

check 7600m laptop reviews lol

[crimson wigeon]

6x Steam Deck

So look at any Deck numbers and 6x them

[thick ermine]

They said it’ll be able to play 4k60

[marsh glade]

4k textures expect more than 8gb VRAM and 16gb regular RAM

[sharp badger]

Hmm?

Or is it the XT?

[ashen spindle]

4k60 sure but not without upscaling or on AAA

[marsh glade]

Mmm...

[thick ermine]

Yeah just looked…”with fsr”

[ashen spindle]

should be a bit below the xt

[thick ermine]

I’m most excited for the controller since I still mainly game with a controller.

Flydigi Vader 5 pro coming out soon (already on aliexpress) but I’m 100% going to get the new steam controller instead for the trackpads and better gyro.

[umbral heron]

[bright briar]

playing on fly eyeballs

[thick ermine]

They were discontinued before I REALLY got into pc gaming. Was still mainly playing console at the time.

Wasn’t going to try it for like $200 on the used market

[umbral heron]

Peak controller for arcade racing games
R2 is gas pedal, R2 full press is nitro, right pad is steering, it's amazing

[umbral heron]

I got this one for like 25€

[marsh glade]

[halcyon moss]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Rpw-ZIWr9eA?si=MMtYPk-YMtRPBdU6

[crimson wigeon]

Oh yeah, hardware specs say nothing about the triggers having that satisfying click at the end... damn if this new controller really doesn't have that..

[thick ermine]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they have haptics like the ps5 controller

[halcyon moss]

7600, hmm can't be great. But probably not too expensive

[bright briar]

did they stop making it?

[thick ermine]

Yeah

New updated one coming next year though @bright briar

[bright briar]

if this is it idk how to feel about it

[sharp badger]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontroller?l=english

[bright briar]

its real !

[bright briar]

@marsh pewter

[thick ermine]

Def not winning any benchmark records. But if fairly priced, it’ll get so many people into pc gaming

[bright briar]

shii i'll buy it why not i need a controller

[thick ermine]

It’s literally just a ps controller layout with trackpads. IMO it looks quite comfortable

[bright briar]

well see since it looks fat

any news on steam deck 2?

[thick ermine]

No and since there wasn’t anything about it, 2027 at the earliest

[bright briar]

steam frame the new vr headset?

[thick ermine]

Yeah

[sharp badger]

They said they didn't have any in the announcement video because it was about the future of Steam hardware

[thick ermine]

3 new devices, proving valve can count to 3…which means all these Valve games on #2 could get a new release.

This new hardware is going to hurt Microsoft/Xbox.

Especially if the steam machine is priced similar to the current Xbox series x price at what $650USD now?

[tribal kelp]

need +200 MHz 😄

[thick ermine]

Now I just want to see valve figure out kernel level anticheat or at least get support from devs for SteamOS. I’m ready to leave windows but most of my games still aren’t supported on Linux.

https://youtu.be/bWUxObt1efQ?si=WZU0yVSGLQ9IQUQt brb in 45min

[bright briar]

good

[thick ermine]

I sold my Xbox when gta announced the delay. Was only keeping it for that, collecting dust.

[bright briar]

i recently sold my ps5

all it does is collect dust

might as well a year or two for pc release

[lyric hatch]

I got an Xbox one for Halo 4 when that sucked it was no more consoles for me (aside from switch )

[bright briar]

steam machine looks like a gamecube

[bright briar]

yeah im annoyed how badly they ruined halo

built my first gaming pc during covid just for infinite.

i could have waited a year or two later

[halcyon moss]

Gabecube

[marsh glade]

Sold

[halcyon moss]

Anyway.. Doesnt one of the xboxes also look like this?

[ashen spindle]

yes just 3x taller

[umbral heron]

Oh yeah
The controller puck
That's what I'd love to have for wireless mice

[rough osprey]

it exists

but rare af

[leaden kiln]

doesnt zowie do that

[lyric hatch]

Yeah but then you need to fork out money for a zowie mouse

[leaden kiln]

I haven't looked at them much but are they more expensive than razer or logi

[rough osprey]

pulsar got one

[vivid wigeon]

Zowie has something similar

[rough osprey]

logi is doable with third party stuff

[vivid wigeon]

Logi you can do it with a powerplay puck and a wireless charging pad

[leaden kiln]

just feinmann or is there more

[vivid wigeon]

Some razer mice have it

Like basilisk and cobra i think

[rough osprey]

i think just that one

maybe the noctua cuz its based on that?

[leaden kiln]

yeah probably

[vivid wigeon]

Steamos desktop instructions (use at your own risk) https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227

[vivid wigeon]

Also naga

[analog sinew]

ngl i was about to ping mods for that lol

[vivid wigeon]

Mods too busy installing steamos

[pale sigil]

Omg finally?

Full desktop release?

[vivid wigeon]

Only official support on the steamdeck and lenovo handheld (with some other in beta) but you can just install it

[pale sigil]

Fuck ye

Dual booting on the deck will be easier now too

[vivid wigeon]

Not sure how well it's going to work especially on intel/Nvidia

[crimson wigeon]

Nothing there seems new

And there is nothing implying dual boot setups are safe now

[ashen spindle]

yeah this is an old page

[unkempt lake]

Not until they do actual game verification

[unkempt lake]

Its shit xD

And valve still doesn't really give us drivers so...

[pale sigil]

What's shit

[pale sigil]

You can just have multiple partitions no?

[crimson wigeon]

Maybe it works, do people actually dualboot with SteamOS?

[wheat plume]

Wait wait

This is an ARM cpu....
So if you are playing the frame standalone
It'll need to convert games through proton but also convert them to arm???

[ashen spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/slowpoke-pokemon-water-psychic-gif-7898037

yes it uses https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX

[unkempt lake]

Like genuinely yall don't understand how important a proper verification system is if people want this thing to sell past existing steam users

If it's the same crap as it is on the deck already this is gonna be a failure and a most will only sell to die hard fans

[nimble arch]

Free tech tip, it won't sell beyond the existing users.

See the Switch 2 outselling Steam Deck in a single weekend.

[ashen spindle]

it's not attempting to replace consoles

so yeah its not outselling them by any margin

[pale sigil]

The steam controller is so ugly lol

[rough osprey]

has valve ever made something pretty

[devout raptor]

chat control went through today? Or is my friend bullshitting

[pale sigil]

I like the steam frame thing

I like it's design

[crimson wigeon]

That's the GabeCube I mean machine

[lyric hatch]

It's pretty clean, not an eyesore at least