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rough patrol
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If its a US order, then itll ship from US, otherwise itll be from the netherlands or hk

midnight storm
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I ordered to the Poland

rough patrol
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Then it ships from the nether

midnight storm
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Alright, thanks

reef patrol
umbral heron
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Consistent across 5 packages duck_bopping

cosmic thunder
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fun fact: color picker on firefox mobile has only 9 colors

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same page in chrome

reef patrol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPRHpD92Lo
Youtubers/Streamers are broke.
Also them:

Shortly after posting my last studio tour, I realized I needed to separate home and work. So, I leased a 400 sq ft office and built my dream creative space... a place where I can focus, be productive, and leave the distractions of home behind.

In this video, I’ll give you a full studio tour of my new office! I’ll walk you through the piece...

▶ Play video
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Man makes Skylines 2 videos, and somehow needs two iMacs and two Desktop PCs with 5080/90 cards in them. 😄

vapid ruin
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a macbook for video editing everywhere is fine though

reef patrol
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I just find it amusing how a lot of the creators I follow have a very "Just a guy working from home and doing what he loves on a shoestring budget, pls Patreon so I can eat", and when they do setup videos, it's like you're visiting Linus HQ 😄

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A brand new, high end gaming PC just to encode a stream? Sure
An iMac just to do video editing? I mean... Is editing on Windows such a pain, when you've got a 9950x3D or the likes? 😄

ashen spindle
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if you have almost a million subscribers they arent ona shoestring budget anymore

reef patrol
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Sure - The illusion just persists until it's suddenly completely unmasked 😄

crimson wigeon
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All the cool people edit videos on Macs!

reef patrol
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Man's just casually going to and from work with an 8TB NVME. That's 6-700$ of "oops I dropped it"

nimble arch
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My mobile carrier have enable 5G Standalone in my area. Can't say my indoor 5G speeds are any faster. KEKW

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At least it's fully 5G and not falling back to 4G for some functions.

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Me at home on WiFi so it's just WiFi Calling instead pepelaugh

umbral heron
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For me in the middle of city 4G is slow as heck, 5G is really good though

nimble arch
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The Vodafone 5G in Lisbon was incredible. I am jealous. I was able to get gigabit download speeds KEKW

reef patrol
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I disabled 5G to conserve power. Not like I ever watch video anyway.
Coverage is a bit spotty where I live, due to tall buildings and not enough antennas (I assume)

nimble arch
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Fastest 5G download speeds I've gotten in the UK was roughly 500 mbps in London.

pale sigil
nimble arch
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Upload speeds could be better, IMHO, but otherwise it's fast enough as a mobile hotspot when Virgin Media decide to stop working.

rough patrol
marsh glade
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"STOP DOING X" is one of my favorite meme formats of all time

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Every time I read one I channel my inner EMPRESS

umbral heron
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Denuvo cracker? blobaww

marsh glade
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Who you calling a cracker?

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(yes)

marsh glade
rough osprey
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very honest product lol

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Can't seem to find an EU Version tho

halcyon moss
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40 watt, but also 60 watt?
wat

rough osprey
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Its like many other chargers

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You can get the max charging rate till its thermally limited

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They just telling you

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instead of naming it a 60W charger

umbral heron
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I went through tens of chargers
Not one does that KEKW

rough osprey
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You testing longterm power output ?

vapid ruin
rough osprey
umbral heron
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Via USB-C too, yes hanaconfuse

rough osprey
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so apple wants 115€ for a 3149mAh powerbank 😭

old marlin
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Oh wait nvm

vapid ruin
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you making me second guessing myself lmao

old marlin
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Yea i misread it as quest 3 plural

vapid ruin
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I mean, could still be nice for quest 3 since I don't think its headphone jack can drive heavy headphone

old marlin
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You mean the ones you don't wanna use with VR anyways?

vapid ruin
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I meant high impedance headphone

rough osprey
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the apple one might just be optimized too do the 60w for as long as the phones can do it or sum (which should be a pretty short amount)

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although the phones just mention 30w lol

umbral heron
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I heard that some 100W Anker chargers drop to 70~80W really quickly hanaconfuse

rough osprey
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hope someone tests it aga

topaz schooner
rough osprey
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WHAAAAAAAAAATTTT

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same price too

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bye bye tidal

umbral heron
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Tidal still cheaper KEKW

rough osprey
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i got a year of premium for 15€

umbral heron
steady sail
rough osprey
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good

frozen ingot
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has to be mastered for 192 to tell a difference anyways

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and most music is not

rough osprey
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the overwhelming majority wouldnt find a difference between 320kbps and Cd quality

umbral heron
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Good luck with finding a DAC that can do 24bit, let alone person who would hear difference

marsh glade
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Diminishing returns, this is a great upgrade and going further isn't necessary especially relative to the extra bandwidth it would cost (Spotify)

frozen ingot
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24-bit is like every dac made in the past 15 years probably

rough osprey
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and like basically everyone is using bluetooth nowadays anyway

umbral heron
sudden imp
rough osprey
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both

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youtube music app is uhmmm

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not great...

vapid ruin
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can agree, especially if you watch youtube for 2-4 hours a day or have it in background

rough osprey
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but you can get both cheaper with a vpn

vapid ruin
sudden imp
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hmmm, I was hoping it woud be good enough :c

vapid ruin
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spotify lack some song that I listen to

rough osprey
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youtube is very easy with vpn - can even keep the same account

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spotify kinda wants you to get a new account

pastel galleon
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gotta get a local set of music files dogekek

vapid ruin
sudden imp
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so its kinda a toss

vapid ruin
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If you can stomach missing some and having higher quality, spotify can be a go

rough osprey
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yt kinda op

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cuz everyone can just upload lol

leaden kiln
vapid ruin
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I'm okay with what I have on youtube music, has niche song from japan all the way back from 2003-2006

vapid ruin
leaden kiln
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I think you can use your own files on yt music too, you just have to upload them to there first

ashen spindle
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https://vxtwitter.com/harukaze5719/status/1965791748036456807 who was it that said a leaker said its coming so its basically confirmed duck_sip

We can confirm that, besides the specs, everything else, including the launch and pricing rumors, is made up and fake

We have confirmed with one of our sources: NVIDIA never planned to launch RTX 50 SUPER GPUs in 25Q4, and we may not hear about the "SUPER" even at CES 2026

QRT: hms1193
NVIDIA RTX 50 SUPER Series Isn't Launching Anytime Soon, RTX 50 GPUs Still In Full-Cycle https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-50-super-series-isnt-launching-anytime-soon-rtx-50-gpus-still-in-full-cycle/

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-50-super-series-isnt-launching-anytime-soon-rtx-50-gpus-still-in-full-cycle/

reef patrol
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Not bad! That's almost double from my 3080 😄

unkempt lake
ashen spindle
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are there any old 9070s around pepe_uhm

unkempt lake
reef patrol
unkempt lake
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Or if he was just looking at benchmarks

lunar elm
unkempt lake
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I just hope it was msrp

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And not overpriced to shit

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That's the problem with 9070xts right now

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Great card but so many models are overpriced

ashen spindle
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no its not, its very simple to get msrp prices in europe

unkempt lake
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Oh neat

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Here they pop up once in a while

reef patrol
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700€ for the 9070XT, 200 for the waterblock.

unkempt lake
reef patrol
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Hahaha no it is not.

unkempt lake
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Have you been able to squeeze that much perf out of the waterblock?

ashen spindle
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How is that even close… 5080 water blocks aren’t free

reef patrol
unkempt lake
reef patrol
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A 5080 will run me about 1100€ right now, with a 200€ waterblock on top. So... 1300€ vs 900 😄

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And the 5080 would definitely have required me to buy a new PSU as well.

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Also... I did originally order a 5080FE, but my order was cancelled out of the blue, so took that as a sign to stop rewarding nVidia.

frozen ingot
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stop wasting money on watercooling you live in scandinavia for peeps sake

reef patrol
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In Scandinavia - Where my home office is often over 30C during summer?
Also again - Not performance, noise 😄

frozen ingot
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30c for a week

reef patrol
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(and looks)

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Try two months straight.

frozen ingot
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didn't realize denmark was on par with egypt

reef patrol
misty matrix
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its never hot in europe, and there is proof to that no less

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we wouldn't have polar bears if it were hot

unkempt lake
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Even if there's a 1 week heatwave

reef patrol
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We have different concepts of quiet. When I game, I don't want my fans to spin up and go loud. And that's what every single GPU I've had in a decade has done. 😄

steady sail
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The only loud part in my pc is the AIO havo

misty matrix
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wait, you're right, they don't

unkempt lake
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Then again i do run noctua fans

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And cases with good airflow

ashen spindle
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if egypt was only causing 30C in a room I think I would move there because then its cooler there than in europe lol

misty matrix
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mansen, could you please rescind the statement about your personal rig based on your personal experience with it?

reef patrol
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Noctua fans on your GPU? dogekek

misty matrix
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thank you

unkempt lake
steady sail
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The AMD Radeon Rx 7900xtx Noctua edition

reef patrol
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Your choice of case fans won't keep the GPU from going brrr

unkempt lake
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But literally the most my 7900xtx spins at is like

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1600rpm

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Its not audible

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Well barely

reef patrol
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My 480 was loud, my 2080 was loud, my 3080 was loud.
That's roughly a decade back I think?

ashen spindle
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is this another case of dashi not understanding people have different preferences and if mansen says you two have different definitions for quiet that cant be the case?

unkempt lake
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The 2080 was louder than my 7900xtx @reef patrol

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Especially because one of the fans had started to fail xD

reef patrol
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There's also that whole sunk cost thing. I already paid for the bulk of my loop. Might as well spend the 200 bucks on including my 9070XT in the loop, than have 3x360mm radiators and 9 fans cool just my 7800X3D

unkempt lake
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But yeah since its gone for the 9060xt + the 9700k being gone for the 7600x3d

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Its so quiet now

lunar elm
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my 5090 on silent bios is relatively silent tbh

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its mainly the AIO fans screaming

steady sail
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I would wanna know what is the ambient noise level at Mansen vs Dashi

frozen ingot
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I struggle to hear my pc even when gaming

distant tapir
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I'm going to get the Fractal Define and optimise every part for silence which should be pretty quiet

steady sail
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Just put pc in a sound room

lunar elm
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cool temps=silent pc

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like they say, happy wife happy life

rough osprey
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quiet pc is easy

lunar elm
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Yeah just put it in an industrial freezer

rough osprey
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😭

brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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2pcb or single?

thick elk
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I still remember my reference blower hd 7950, I think I almost instantly bought a Accelero Xtreme III, after that quietest gpu I owned, even with a big oc that eventually killed it (5 years later)

digital cliff
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I had the accelero extreme II catnod weird time when you could buy aftermarket air coolers for cards

reef patrol
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Saved my bacon twice.

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Had a Radeon ...4550? or something's fans die. Back in Burning Crusade days. I was a broke student and it helped me keep playing without buying a new card and living on school lunches for months.

Also got one for my 560TI I think it was, cause the heatpipes collapsed.

bright briar
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anyone see the leaks of the 5070 ti super being 24gb

reef patrol
steady sail
bright briar
vagrant pagoda
reef patrol
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Hmm... it's been so long, and I used a different email back then. All I remember was those numbers...maybe a 48? dunno. It was a low to mid end game by the time I got it.

brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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i got a x700 pro right after og came out

steady sail
vagrant pagoda
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and i remember my buddy got a 2900 cfx system right after tbc

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he had a og cfx with the domgle that i still have

reef patrol
vagrant pagoda
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and it was so much better without the stuid cable

brisk topaz
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What was ati’s first gpu they ever released and how good was it

vagrant pagoda
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yeah it was amazing

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it was actually compativie

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radeon was og ait

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just like geforce was nvidias og

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things were FLYING in those days

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geforce 256 to geforce2 was like 5 months

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and it almost doubled performance

brisk topaz
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I just remember having a potato pc and games were like a windows 95 laggy slideshow screensaver for me hahahahahah

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But they were still fun. Games today are just sooooo bad and people feel like such sweats with no social aspects

vagrant pagoda
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prob no 3d at all

brisk topaz
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Ans you call people out for being ass and they just ban you

vagrant pagoda
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all cpu

brisk topaz
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I was playing games like quake and unreal tournament

vagrant pagoda
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you didnt need 3d for games back then

brisk topaz
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Oh you mean no 3d hardware?

vagrant pagoda
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you could do it all on cpu

brisk topaz
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Ohhhh

vagrant pagoda
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quake and ut99 can run pure cpu

brisk topaz
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Idk man i was young this was like 25 years ago

vagrant pagoda
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same will HL1

brisk topaz
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I just remember having so much fun never getting bored. Games today i play 1 match and im like ight ima go do something else

vagrant pagoda
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you needed 3d hardware to turn up the detail

frozen ingot
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pretty sure unreal 1 required 3d acceleration

vagrant pagoda
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but most games would run withouth

brisk topaz
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I can distinctively still hear both the guy ajd girl announcer in my head. Killstreak with the girl orgasming and going HOLY SHIT

vagrant pagoda
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100% has software renderer

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ut was softare

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then got glide, then opengl, then finally direct3d

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epic is why everything is 3d

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epic couldnt make a opengl renderer to save thier lives

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meanwhile quake2/3 ran like butter

ashen spindle
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there is no 9080xt

vagrant pagoda
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thats just being carmack was always 10 times the coder sweeney was

ashen spindle
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and there probably will not be one

brisk topaz
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I fired up my epic launcher with my unreal tournament games in my library and it just tells me unavailable and wont even let me download them

vagrant pagoda
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yeah there is no die for a 9080

brisk topaz
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Paid money for them to be taken away from me

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I haaaaaate epic games

vagrant pagoda
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you can download them on steam still XD

brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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if you owned them on steam before egs

frozen ingot
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unreal had amazing graphics for the time but tbh it got steamrolled in most other aspects by half-life

brisk topaz
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I paid money for them on epic launcher way long ago and they took them away from me

brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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also ut should work on egs

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if it dosent let me know ill fill a ticket

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i do epic playtesting

brisk topaz
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And storepage doesnt exist

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But shows i own it in my library

vagrant pagoda
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you doing ut99

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not the canceled new one

brisk topaz
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Unreal tournament and the newer one unreal tournament

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The 1999 version and the 2014? Version

vagrant pagoda
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ut99 is the og

brisk topaz
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Yes

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I played that one both on ps2 and pc

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Do you remember red faction multiplayer with the rail gun that had wallhacks? Lol

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I remember lan parties with an honor system of rail gun being banned

vagrant pagoda
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ill check when i get home

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but you should be able to get 99

brisk topaz
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Alr ty ion

brisk topaz
reef patrol
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Buy a 25 year old game?

vagrant pagoda
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its free

brisk topaz
brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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ut99 has been free for a LONG time

brisk topaz
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Ah yep pcgamingwiki takes me to that website

brisk topaz
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Now i wsnt to for nostalgia sake i remember it being one of my favorite games i stayed up all night on

vagrant pagoda
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i think all of epics ols stuff is free

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so i have ut99 on steam but its on vendor access, so i dont think i actually owned it

brisk topaz
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Ionstorm you are awesome for all this info man

vagrant pagoda
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epic must have sent it out for something

brisk topaz
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Im actually ecstatic to play ut99 again

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Does it have online support still?

vagrant pagoda
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ive been doing epic playtest starting with ut2004

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yeah, there is a patch to fix the servers

brisk topaz
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Omg

vagrant pagoda
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i wish epic would do a id and make it opensource

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but ue1/2 are good enough for modern titles XD

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also i wish epic would do something other than fortnite

brisk topaz
# vagrant pagoda ive been doing epic playtest starting with ut2004

I stopped playing ut around 2002-2003 because command and conquer renegade came out and that games multiplayer engulfed my life until i discovered warcraft 3 around 2005 and then the custom games in that engulfed my life for a while then i got splinter cell chaos theory around that same time had a blast in spies vs mercs then i discovered wow existed around 2007 and i was engulfed in wow until cata came out and cata made me quit wow because it was soooo bad especially after how good wotlk was i was like bruh this breaks my heart

vagrant pagoda
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fortnite started as a tower defence farmville combo XD

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pivot of the century

brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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oh i mean before it was released

brisk topaz
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I love just watching them spam a skyscraper for me to just destroy it from the bottom then they fall and die and scream in the mic

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I dont even know how to build in the game xD

vagrant pagoda
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egs, ut and fortnite where a package thing

frozen ingot
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I've never touched fortnite

vagrant pagoda
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it was a wave based tower denfece thing

brisk topaz
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Can you play the og gears of war on pc still without the disk?

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I have my original disk still but curious if theres an easier way

vagrant pagoda
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but then you had this overmap that had cooldowns and shit like farmville

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then it slowly shifted in like 2014-15 to a pve multiplayer shooter

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then to pvp

crimson wigeon
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And then PUBG was the massive hype thing and they made that battle royale mode and made it free and the rest is as they say, history

vagrant pagoda
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luckily all the money and time they spent on UT ment they had the tech in the engine to make the pivot

brisk topaz
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The only battle royale i liked was pubg and that was because it was slower paced and i could actually think tactically and the gunplay felt more realistic. I could implement my real life training to the game and come out on top lol

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All the others felt cheesy and arcady and felt like they were easier to cheese and cheat

vagrant pagoda
crimson wigeon
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Still waiting for save the world to become free by the way!!!!!

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They said it would happen!!!!

vagrant pagoda
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who knows lol

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i got a fancy dogtag thats it

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got a ingame skin and name tag/color thing but no one knows what it is

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lol

brisk topaz
# vagrant pagoda

Doesnt even look like a real dogtag lol looks like some temu knockoff

vagrant pagoda
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its real metal and gold plated

brisk topaz
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No i know its just the shape they made it

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Why couldnt they have stamped it out of the proper shape

vagrant pagoda
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its a ticket

brisk topaz
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Oh

vagrant pagoda
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like raffle

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that used to be a ingame currency for the pve

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you had to mine for wood/stone/metal but you had to buy traps

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i have pictures somewhere

bright briar
vagrant pagoda
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nah there isnt even a die out there

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they would be using it for workstation

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og EGS

brisk topaz
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So 9070xt is the fastest we get from amd?

reef patrol
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For now? Yes.

vagrant pagoda
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they havent even done any rnda4 workstation stuff

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as navi31 is faster than navi48

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they have onyl annouced the 48 based pro

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if there was a bigger die they woudnt be advertising that as the top end

ashen spindle
gentle osprey
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9070XT has FSR4 support and better RT tho

nimble arch
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I’d recommend the 9070 XT solely due to FSR4

gentle osprey
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Same

nimble arch
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Especially as ML-upscalers are slowly becoming mandatory

gentle osprey
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But I was just saying the 7900XTX is technically the faster card

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Or fastest*

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From AMD

reef patrol
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And thank glock for that.

gentle osprey
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This guy was asking me for pc help, said he wanted a new GPU for around $400

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I told him he’s better off upgrading CPU

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Thoughts?

steady sail
gentle osprey
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That’s what I was thinking

sudden imp
gentle osprey
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Yeah same, cause someone tried to tell him 4060 but that’s weaker than a 2080ti

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And I feel like if he upgrades GPU, the CPU will just hold him back

lyric hatch
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Tell bro GPU market has stagnated and he'll need to drop more money if he wants a meaningful upgrade

sudden imp
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He mind aswell upgrade the cpu and then he could wait till it’s EOL and get all new parts if he super rearing for latest and greatest

gentle osprey
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Yeah I pretty much told him that generational performance hasn’t been that great and his 2080ti is still decent just doesn’t have the new features like DLSS4 and FG

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That’s why I recommended 5800x3d cause he’d need a bigger budget for GPU upgrade

sudden imp
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I mean he could also get a newer cpu like 9800x3D but would that be a bottle neck?

steady sail
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And more than 400$

sudden imp
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oh wait yeah hes got a budget mbmb

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yeah his best option is am4

unkempt lake
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Fyi

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You just gotta go enable it in the nvidia app

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2080 ti is still plenty

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Just toss in an x3d chip

unkempt lake
gentle osprey
unkempt lake
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I kinda regret getting a 2080 instead of a 2080 ti back then, because the market stagnated so much, if i had spent the extra 500 back then I wouldn't have had to pay 475 for a 9060xt 16gb for nico today and back when i was the one using the 2080 i would have had more frames :P

gentle osprey
unkempt lake
steady sail
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Lolz

unkempt lake
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What sucks is its not a bad card its just so limited by vram at 1440p and in some new titles

wheat plume
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Hmm
Google Pixel 9 Pro XL is faster than the 10 Pro XL
Lol wtf Google ?

nimble arch
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Google wish they could make in-house SoCs like Apple can.

wheat plume
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Yeh fr

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The Apple M series is really amazing
AMD getting pretty close though

lyric hatch
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It's close under load but on idle chiplet falls way behind

old marlin
old marlin
ashen spindle
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not chiplet related, lunar lake on intels side is chiplet and basically has better idle than apple in most cases

old marlin
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like it's not magic, apple just paid for top notch node and that is what they got

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then add their horrid thermal management of their previous intel macbooks and that is the result you get

ashen spindle
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amd desktop chiplets suffer because its cheaper to package it this way

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not because of chiplets

lyric hatch
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Fair

old marlin
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chiplet is basically just for yields

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otherwise they wouldn't make top of the line server cpus as chiplets lol

ashen spindle
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because if you compare strix halo it has super low idle, zen5 desktop super high, and its because the packaging difference

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next gen will use the better way on desktop too so thats not really a concern anymore

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just doesnt make much sense with early zen to go for expensive packaging just for lower idle on desktop

old marlin
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wasn't strix halo not even that good for efficiency

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in comparison to strix point

ashen spindle
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talking idle bc halo is using chiplets just like desktop

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point is monolithic

old marlin
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ah

lyric hatch
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Seems like a decent upgrade in the ~3 years between M1 and M4

ashen spindle
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also very likely that both amd and intel are beating apple next year in efficency because they have N2 chips before apple

old marlin
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what does the efficiency look like since that is what actually matters lol

devout raptor
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damm thats a cheap oled

reef patrol
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Smells like... Elgiganten

unkempt lake
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i recognize the font

unkempt lake
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old marlin
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afaik reskinned asrock?

ashen spindle
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no thats nzxt, saphire is branching into the mobo business

old marlin
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ah, was just stupid rumors giggle

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welp, I greet another player in the mainboard market

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price also seems ok

ashen spindle
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damn if that was 2 dimm slots that would be a really sick board

#

wait wheres the wifi chip on that

old marlin
#

if I were to guess under that large block on the left

#

I know why companies don't make 2 dimm boards but 4 dimms is just stupid KEKW

ashen spindle
#

do they place m2 wifi chips that close to the vrm?

old marlin
#

not like they are much further away usually

unkempt lake
#

Msi does it too

ashen spindle
old marlin
#

yea but those are cheaper ones

ashen spindle
#

that just doesnt have wifi

#

yeah but if this had wifi it would basically be the same lol

old marlin
#

the A620AM does giggle

#

glad they are trying to do reasonable boards first

#

instead of launching a stupid expensive 870E board as the very first board

ashen spindle
#

2 dimms, wifi, 2 m2 and one x4 for expansion would've been an amazing entry board for value

old marlin
#

even their "best" board is only B850

ashen spindle
#

but that makes sense that they want something for the entire stack eventually

vagrant pagoda
old marlin
#

Yea but haven't in ages

vagrant pagoda
#

they make one every now and then

#

the used to be amd/atis version of pny

#

they made the ref mobos and video cards

#

my #2 wishlist board is a ati express sapphire

#

my x79 has a sapphire in it as my asus ws-e is dead

gusty kiln
#

only thing missing from the sapphire B850 mobo is a gpu latch button

#

hope that feature trickles down to cheaper boards soon

vagrant pagoda
#

just cut the tab off XD

gusty kiln
#

oh yeah asus does that now

vagrant pagoda
#

i have never once seen a gpu stay connected with the tab

#

there isnt really a way for anything to flex in a way that the tab would hold on

gentle osprey
#

Not to be a Nvidia shill but I just realized DLSS 4 can be run on 20, 30, 40, and 50 series while FSR 4 can only be run on 9000 series

ashen spindle
#

sorta

#

new features dont and the upscaling gets hard on 20 series but yes it works

gentle osprey
#

yeah true cause it requires more

ashen spindle
#

fsr4 is coming to rdna3, if you would urn it on older cards like rdna2 it wouldnt give you a benefit

gentle osprey
#

Oh did they confirm it coming to RDNA3? I can't recall

ashen spindle
#

but correct, due to 20 series starting to add more hardware for non gaming it lets them run more things on it

#

well, they said they were looking into it, linux devs made it work and leaks are showing they will have something

#

so, you can run it with workarounds, but its probably coming with the bigger fsr redstone update if I were to guess as an official update

gentle osprey
#

Oh okay, yeah that'd be nice for peeps on older cards (if it gives meaningful uplift)

ashen spindle
#

dont remember the link for the latest numbers on what people managed to backport

gentle osprey
#

Ah okay, yeah if you find it, I wouldn't mind checking it out

ashen spindle
#

thats from some months ago

unkempt lake
#

well according to rumors and leaks from the fsr sdk

#

People have gotten fsr4 to run pretty well on linux and 7900xtx

gentle osprey
unkempt lake
#

The first community implementations were meh but

#

The newest ones are pretty damn good

#

@gentle osprey

gentle osprey
#

Oh okay that's good to hear, that'll be nice for console too

unkempt lake
thick elk
# old marlin afaik reskinned asrock?

Remember some youtuber saying the bios is fairly similar to MSI. They have been active in china for some time, could be they are simply using their own produduction and license the interface from MSI.

reef patrol
#

DDU fails at doing the one thing it needs to somehow.

umbral heron
unkempt lake
#

Where windows kept reinstalling nvidia drivers

#

Even after ddu

#

And habing an amd card in the system

reef patrol
#

Yeah that's why DDU specifically offers an option to temporarily disable Windows Update. Guess that didn't work this time 😄

unkempt lake
#

Disabling auto driver installs fixed it

unkempt lake
#

I tired a bunch of crap

#

As soon as it was reconnected to the internet it'd force reinstall

#

Had to turn off auto driver install completely

#

Then turn it back on

#

Wnd thay fixed it

#

Cuz even if i paused

#

Eventually itnwould happen again

#

i go back to sleep now

#

Im tired

umbral heron
#

Funny that even driver situation on Linux and Windows flipped nowadays hanaSit

unkempt lake
marsh glade
hearty oriole
#

Hello ! Is there a way to uninstall the wooting keyboard driver ? It's messing with my controller :/ It seems both my controller and the keyboard are detected as a gamepad which makes the controller unusable

reef patrol
#

Disable the gamepad functionality in Wootility.

hearty oriole
#

It is disabled 🙁

marsh glade
#

Close the game, unplug the controller, plug it back in, restart the game

#

(or if wireless, turn off and on)

umbral heron
#

Be me
Buy Sony camera
Buy Canon EF to Sony E adapter
Buy mostly Canon lenses
hanaSit

analog sinew
#

make photo

umbral heron
#

I did some nice photos on Sunday hanaAYAYA

#

Flowers and was practicing macro on tomatoes hana_Yes

marsh glade
#

Need more cat pictures pepe_yes

umbral heron
#

There's a beautiful oreng cat living with grandma near me, was being really happy after flei pet him hanaAww
If I catch him I'll make photo HanaNodders

#

flei was also really happy about petting hanaSit

vagrant pagoda
reef patrol
#

No, never.

vagrant pagoda
#

thats why

reef patrol
#

Then that's a new thing. I've never had to boot into Safe Mode ever with DDU.

vagrant pagoda
#

no its literally right in the instructions that while it works in normal, its high recommended to run in safe mode

reef patrol
#

While it works

vagrant pagoda
#

has issue, dosent do the only thing recommened for stability

reef patrol
#

I have an issue after not needing to do thing after a decade of use. You can stop trying 😛

vagrant pagoda
#

its not a ddu issue its a windows issue, which is why safe mode is recommeneded

marsh glade
#

Just don't update drivers

#

What could possibly go wrong

ashen spindle
#

just use nvidia drivers on amd

#

free DLSS trick big gpu doesnt want you to know about

reef patrol
ashen spindle
reef patrol
#

Recommended != Required

vagrant pagoda
#

yeah and it didnt brick your pc xD

reef patrol
#

How the hell would removing drivers brick a PC? Now you've gone full dumb. You never go full dumb.

vagrant pagoda
#

it cant uninstall drivers if windows blocks it

reef patrol
#

No errors thrown

vagrant pagoda
#

if you have ever gotten drivers via update, windows keeps a copy of that and will reinstall them

reef patrol
#

Nothing was reinstalled.

marsh glade
#

Just do what I do, when you run out of space on your harddrive, just start nuking portions of Windows to make space

umbral heron
analog sinew
#

baby snale!

unkempt lake
astral haven
#

It is a low key shame we can't make a 200 1.8 again tho
Leaded glass is the goat

umbral heron
#

Wait, 200/f2? That will be like 2~3kg mimiWat

#

chomk blobaww

astral haven
#

Yes?

#

I have the 60-600 (canon) and that's 2.7kg

umbral heron
astral haven
#

Who needs dumbbells when you have camera gear 💪

#

Also the currrent goat 200 f2 is 1.8kg

devout raptor
#

got my first tv

#

s90d woled model

reef patrol
#

I vaguely recall something about force enabling (superior?) FSR4 in games that only have FSR3?

#

I'm only interested in upscaling, not frame gen if that matters.

ashen spindle
#

Checkbox in driver Settings

reef patrol
#

Somewhere in Adrenalin you mean?

ashen spindle
#

Yes

reef patrol
#

This one? Needs to be a 3.1 game already it seems like?

ashen spindle
#

Assuming you have the latest version because it’s a new change

#

Yeah it can’t add it to a game that doesn’t have fsr3

reef patrol
#

3.1 - Not 3

ashen spindle
#

Same stuff

#

That’s all you can enable in drivers

reef patrol
#

So theoretically I should be running 4 now? Anyway to check?

ashen spindle
#

Optiscaler for games that don’t have it

#

No clue how to check lol

rough osprey
marsh glade
#

Common EU win, danke

rough osprey
#

Nah sad

#

you can already buy products that do this 😭

nimble arch
#

Me going into the EU with my UK iPhone and UK Apple ID

#

Bonjour

rough osprey
#

lets see if it like updates live or if i can just set my account to switzerland

reef patrol
#

Looks like the AMD Profile manager tool is non-functional.

#

The whitelisting is enabled, then I reopen the app and it's back to being blacklisted 😄

brisk topaz
devout raptor
#

this seemed to be a monday unit and the panel just stopped working

brisk topaz
unkempt lake
#

@reef patrol gaming - graphics - fsr4

reef patrol
#

I was unsure if a game needed to be 3.1 or just 3. Didn't matter in the end cause the game was Vulcan, not DX12 😄

devout raptor
brisk topaz
brisk topaz
#

Return it get your money back spend more for an LG or wait for a sale on LG for oled

astral haven
#

And Samsung monitors are only problematic at the bleeding edge, and they have warranty so you can reroll if you get a bad one

brisk topaz
frozen ingot
#

I've yet to own a samsung product that hasn't failed partially or fully within two years of purchase

brisk topaz
#

Had a 990 pro ssd die

#

Had a samsung galaxy s21 ultra with quality issues

#

Samsung across the board is bad and i dont recommend them

astral haven
#

Welcome to being unlucky

brisk topaz
astral haven
#

Wrong, dammage happens in shipping, and modern electronics are super sensitive

brisk topaz
#

Never had issues with apple phones or lg tv’s

astral haven
#

They were shipped to your country

brisk topaz
#

Only when it came to samsung i had a plethora of issues

astral haven
astral haven
frozen ingot
#

shipping damage that manifests a year and a half after purchase then dogekek

brisk topaz
#

Recommending samsung with their current state of quality control isnt a good move

astral haven
#

As I said reroll
Bad stuff happens

brisk topaz
#

Hes shilling for a bad company

lyric hatch
#

My 16" MacBook pro arrived with a defected screen does apple suck

#

Or maybe I just got unlucky duck_sip

astral haven
frozen ingot
#

I could buy bad luck if it happened once or twice but its been several samsung products across different product segments

brisk topaz
lofty pivot
brisk topaz
#

A best but worker even told me dont buy samsung due to bad quality control and he was wearing a samsung shirt

brisk topaz
lofty pivot
#

ah you're an LG apartment kind of guy. I see

astral haven
lofty pivot
#

i'd recommend the hyundai apartments too, they're quite trendy brand in apartments

frozen ingot
#

I don't know if I'd call a monitor or phone bleeding edge

#

or a soundbank

#

seeing as plenty others can make this stuff without it failing within two years

astral haven
#

The Samsung fumbles have been the note which was the densest battery to date and the first g7 which was the fastest va to date

#

Then some ssds which were the fastest controller to date

#

Like whine all you want, the rest of their products have normal failure rates of 1/1000

#

When you have a billion users however you are guaranteeing making a million people mad with just .1%

brisk topaz
frozen ingot
#

I wouldn't have to whine if their products actually lasted smile

brisk topaz
#

I recommend brands i tried personalky and had no long term issues with

astral haven
brisk topaz
#

If it makes you feel better i dont even recommend colt to anyone in the firearm world anymore they are so bad lol

brisk topaz
#

Dell

astral haven
#

How many visio products have you owned?

#

Same for dell

lyric hatch
#

Buy good products, not brands

brisk topaz
#

Interview time. Are you paying me for my time? @astral haven

#

I dont answer questions or work for free

astral haven
#

Yes

brisk topaz
#

Cool i charge $60/hr for my answers

#

You pay first

marsh glade
#

Paying in exposure

astral haven
#

You have been paid in exposure yep

#

If you wish to invoice for your time spent rather than quality of work done, send me an invoice, and I'll return one in kind

lofty pivot
#

I will handle invoice processing for both parties, make sure to add on my fee as well

dull hollow
#

im gonna send one in for my time reading this SwitchySippy

brisk topaz
astral haven
#

Good for you, I'm sorry for your loss

brisk topaz
devout raptor
astral haven
brisk topaz
devout raptor
#

yes

lyric hatch
#

How far does the ban go does it cover Samsung display that would bring down the options for phones/displays

marsh glade
#

I have a samsung washing machine I'm pretty sure

brisk topaz
marsh glade
#

Got it second hand, was already 5 years old, have had in 5 years myself, runs like a charm

brisk topaz
#

I have GE washer dryer shits old as fuck and basic too but still works

brisk topaz
lyric hatch
astral haven
brisk topaz
astral haven
#

Same as apple makes their chips inhouse

#

Yea like they own tsmc lol

#

And how apple makes their displays in house "its retina xdr pro not anyone elses tech guys we swear"

rough osprey
#

lets visit the nvidia chip factory

brisk topaz
#

Ok if samsung is so great how was his tv perfect and flawless out the box then suddenly his panel failed on him?

astral haven
#

Yea and monitor controllers are rarely made on tsmc

brisk topaz
#

Explain that one. Thats not shipping abuse

astral haven
brisk topaz
rough osprey
#

I dont like samsung for not supporting dolby vision

brisk topaz
#

Thst too

#

Hdr10 does not look as good as dolby vision

astral haven
#

But instead of being proprietary its an open standard

rough osprey
#

if only it was widely used

astral haven
#

Blame apple

rough osprey
#

noooo

rigid flicker
#

anyone got the link for compatible cases for the 60he?

astral haven
#

Everyone else supports it
My camera can record internally in hdr10 even (tho vision and + both require grading afterwards so cameras can't natively record it without guesswork)

rough osprey
#

netflix started supporting it this year

astral haven
rough osprey
#

and apple tv supposedly has hdr10+ lol

rough osprey
astral haven
#

Yep, apple is pushing it via appletv

brisk topaz
#

Im jusr gonna say. Its crazy how outing samsung for being bad summoned these people

rough osprey
#

they wanna have everything in this format this year (netflix)

#

so adoption still kinda slow

astral haven
rough osprey
#

amazon prime kinda the opposite

#

not a lot of dolby vision content

frozen ingot
#

leave the multibillion corporation alone

rough osprey
#

oh disney+ also started with hdr10+ this year

brisk topaz
astral haven
ashen spindle
#

never realized HDR kinda forces exclusive fullscreen on games, do you know what the reason for that is @astral haven ?

astral haven
rough osprey
#

but now LG doesnt really wanna adopt Dolby Vision 2

astral haven
ashen spindle
#

so its the game forcing it when it sees its set to hdr?

astral haven
#

🤷

#

Its gotta be possible to not do that but it might be that some API makes that hard?

brisk topaz
#

Samsung quality control bad. End of story

astral haven
#

And you have nothing to back that up

#

I told you the failure rates, and you haven't shown them to be higher than I stated, nor any company that is particularly lower than that

tepid lynx
#

not true! he has 1 reddit thread!

astral haven
#

I do know 1 company with lower failure rates, and that's IBM
But I can't buy monitors from ibm so 🤷‍♂️

umbral heron
#

I bought my parents a Samsung TV 2 years ago
Still works great hanaSit

brisk topaz
rough osprey
#

pro ragebaiter

tepid lynx
#

You do realize we can do the exact same thing for any other company right?

astral haven
rough osprey
#

my wooting keyboard had a problem so wooting bad 👎

astral haven
#

I have a wooting and a Logitech, the wooting has an issue, it must be logitechs fault because Logitech bad
(Actually tho it was Logitech lel)

gusty kiln
rough osprey
#

discord

gusty kiln
#

Discord feature?

rough osprey
#

penguin is for this server, toasty is global

gusty kiln
#

Oh

rough osprey
#

just doesnt load sometimes ig

astral haven
rough osprey
#

all products are bad (besides airpods 2 pro)

marsh glade
#

It's irrelevant if the product is defective. What matters is how the company handles it when it (inevitably) happens

rough osprey
#

true (Vacation)

astral haven
gusty kiln
#

Samsung recovering from the Note 7 was masterful work

astral haven
#

You never had these?

gusty kiln
#

Where the mems at

rough osprey
#

looks scary

astral haven
#

These are such an atrocious sound quality that its hard to believe but they are bulletproof

umbral heron
#

Aren't those the ones that are used with radios to improve battery time by like a lot? hanaSit

astral haven
#

Ye

brisk topaz
wheat plume
#

ayooo google finnaly made a repairable phone

dull hollow
lyric hatch
young bough
#

I give that shit to my baby cuzzo

marsh glade
frozen ingot
astral haven
#

Its for apple people to have a basic option to switch over to

rough osprey
#

apple qc lowkey bad

brisk topaz
brisk topaz
#

My 15pm the back glass separated pushed in and the waterproof seal was broken because of it. And then the battery bulged and popped on it too

marsh glade
brisk topaz
#

I started thinking on that usb c connector too internally. Would it not help it if you had snap in clips that held the wire in place to keep the connector from wiggling out over time from vibrations and moving?

#

Or what if you had a push button lock on the connector itself? Like a mini one

astral haven
brisk topaz
#

Didnt do anything other than grab it with my hand

#

It just simply shifted and broke the waterproof seal

astral haven
#

Please reread what I typed

rough osprey
#

ye tbh i had a problem with the back glass too

#

the glue came out by itself

#

they repaired it

#

and now its still very misaligned

brisk topaz
# astral haven Please reread what I typed

Bro you defend companies in such an annoying way “its user error because the back glass failed to hold its integrity from a gentle grip and grab motion out of the pocket therefore its your fault not bad quality control” get the fuck outta here with that bullshit putting the blame on someone like that

rough osprey
#

and i get dust under the lenses somehow

brisk topaz
brisk topaz
#

Blocking carmonben and moving on

astral haven
#

That's a known issue, happens to everyone tho

brisk topaz
rough osprey
#

only time i ever had to send in a phone was with the iphone 😭

#

and that basically twice

astral haven
brisk topaz
brisk topaz
astral haven
brisk topaz
#

I still dont like samsung phones after my screen magically shattering itself in my pocket somehow on the s21 ultra

#

Didnt even do anything other than have it in my pocket and sit down to play games

astral haven
brisk topaz
umbral heron
#

Please, keep it civil...

rough osprey
#

yall like my new cat

astral haven
#

Let him in, I can see you have him as an outdoor cat smh

rough osprey
astral haven
#

Ah then its fine

rough osprey
#

whats yall favorite eu based email provider (not proton)

umbral heron
#

tuta sounds good hana_Yes

devout raptor
rough osprey
#

didnt know google from the EU

astral haven
devout raptor
umbral heron
#

But yeah, for EU it's either Proton or Tuta, not really sure what else

rough osprey
astral haven
rough osprey
#

although the name sounds kinda silly

gusty kiln
halcyon moss
astral haven
#

Does that Google Drive clone that runs on TrueNAS also include email?

umbral heron
#

Nextcloud? hanaconfuse

halcyon moss
#

yes

astral haven
#

That was what I was thinking of and no 🙁

#

It has a client, but you have to have a server separately, which obviously works but...

halcyon moss
#

email is hard.

astral haven
#

It's been several decades...

umbral heron
#

Never hosting my own MX server again KEKW

rough osprey
#

tuta doesnt seem to allow different apps or sum

astral haven
#

No IMAP?

umbral heron
#

No IMAP hanaIsee

astral haven
#

Oh wow wth

umbral heron
astral haven
#

How nice -_-

umbral heron
#

They could make E2E addon for Thunderbird SwitchySippy

astral haven
#

Lmao they don't support smime either

raw zephyr
#

email is hard, i was thinking of migrating to proton or mailbox.org, but havent gotten around to it yet

halcyon moss
#

I'm thinking about moving to Proton, haven't really checked mailbox, this would be a replacement of my Google workspace accounts

gusty kiln
#

The whole proton ecosystem is pretty attractive

#

And their vpn is almost as good as mullvad

marsh glade
#

I've been using ProtonVPN for almost a decade now, been a happy customer for a long time

rough osprey
#

does my mainboard have enough space?

brisk topaz
dull hollow
rough osprey
#

😭

brisk topaz
inner forge
rough osprey
thick elk
#

For me with email and such, anything that locks me to their apps is a nono, when changes are made for the worse, can always switch one thing.

Mix and match over ecosystem any time.

rough osprey
#

meta should make an email service

#

we would ALL be using it

warm ore
rough osprey
#

these SFF builds are not easy...

young bough
rough osprey
plush stirrup
ashen spindle
bright briar
#

the new nord vpn update is so ass

plush stirrup
#

The issue is in the same sentence 🤣

digital cliff
#

haven't really used it apart from sharing files to friends on occasion but that sounds rough, as does the rest of the subreddit lmao

#

I did try the VPN, the linux app just didn't work and was generally shit so that's my experience

#

no complaints about the mail, which is what I pay them for tbh

fair gull
#

didnt proton offer nicer vpn stuff anyway with like connection details so you dont need a client?

umbral heron
#

Yeah, they have a nice linux app, older cli app which still works and wireguard configs

tender lava
#

oh wait, lossless gonna be available on spotify?

umbral heron
#

A bit late to the party neuroGiggle

tender lava
#

but they're usable on linuxSwitchyUwU

fair gull
#

lossless as in just converted or ai converted or does someone remaster a converted mp3 (or whatever the fudge they think could work) OR are they actually getting it from the studio/label

umbral heron
#

I think they already had whole library of their own lossless as source to convert to lossy they used

lunar elm
#

low quality lossless 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

tribal dirge
analog sinew
#

im kind of thinking about getting a new phone

#

what brands are even worth it these days

#

not liking where samsung has been going

nimble arch
#

Apple

analog sinew
#

sure as hell not buying apple

#

lmao

#

imma look at stuff like redmagic etc

vagrant pagoda
#

as someone who is very very much not a apple user, they easily make the best phones

analog sinew
#

might be but they are simply too expensive

#

and i dont wanna be associated with apple

vagrant pagoda
analog sinew
#

XD

#

i can afford it but I'm not looking to spend that money on a phone

vagrant pagoda
#

my android was pro max money

analog sinew
#

oh god they are all advertised with "ai features" now

vagrant pagoda
#

i mean yeah everything is ai

halcyon moss
#

Samsung

vagrant pagoda
#

most average samsung user

analog sinew
#

well i have a samsung now but i dont rly like where they are heading

#

hmm the market is kinda barren tho

#

im kinda considering gaming phones

halcyon moss
#

It is the best android phones

vagrant pagoda
#

unless you want durability

frozen ingot
#

yeah quality sucks ass

#

most overrated brand among the droids

umbral heron
#

lower-end models are quite durable hanaSit

analog sinew
halcyon moss
#

After my lackluster s10, I had a pixel 2xl and since then only Samsung, and it's been good

compact relic
lyric hatch
#

Bloat is very much overstated

#

Has the most customization options by far

leaden kiln
frozen ingot
#

shouldn't have to do that in the first place

leaden kiln
#

I agree, but I don’t think that is a very compelling reason to not buy samsung

nimble arch
#

OneDrive being preloaded on the S24 my mother purchased was annoying. Couldn't uninstall it either, only an option to disable.

#

Samsung have great hardware ruined by shit software.

#

Google Pixel devices have a much better stock install but the hardware is ass.

umbral heron
#

Low-end Samsungs nod
They don't bother to put bloatware on those hanaSit

reef patrol
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Neat!

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Very pricy though - But I guess if you love the feel and sound of the old iPods, it might be your one and final device.

gusty kiln
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FanControl seems to have borked

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any other decent alternative in case this doesn't get resolved?

magic minnow
analog sinew
magic minnow
gusty kiln
magic minnow
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I had high hopes for the Pixel 10, but that turned out to be super lame

astral haven
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Its all 3rd party software that is pushing phones forward

brisk topaz
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Wait does nvidia still rely on third party software for gpu fans ? Hahahahaha fuck nvidia man

lunar elm
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dude is gonna spit on nvidia every chance he gets

brisk topaz
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Do nvidia drivers still freeze up and take forever to open the control panel and look like it was made in win95 still?

lunar elm
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theres auto 0 rpm mode for some models iirc but its application based

lunar elm
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but RTX HDR is great when it works

brisk topaz
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lunar elm
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you dont toggle 0 rpm mode for amd what

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my 9070xt doesnt ramp the fans till like 150w , never noticed the temp req

reef patrol
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Your GPU has fans?

brisk topaz
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I turned it off for my 9070xt because i didnt like a 55c idle hotspot temp

lunar elm
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then not only does adrenaline have a 50% chance of opening, it doesnt permanently save my GPU profile everytime I power on the PC

vagrant pagoda
brisk topaz
gusty kiln
lunar elm
brisk topaz
lunar elm
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it just always goes back to stock everytime I shut down

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meanwhile nvidia and msi ab keeps the profiles I set

Theres tradeoffs to both cards for me to use

vagrant pagoda
brisk topaz
charred wigeon
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Hello, I managed to put my keyboard into restore mode, but I can't do anything with it. I'm stuck like this, and even though I follow the restore steps, it remains stuck. Can somebody know what can i do ?

gusty kiln
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And nvidia has no way to control fan speeds now since everything nvidia relied on used winring0

vagrant pagoda
gusty kiln
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no, but I just installed it to replace

brisk topaz
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Maybe evga precision works?

astral haven
vagrant pagoda
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when did nvidia drop ring0?

astral haven
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Only issue I see with afterburner is the rx9000 series thing but that's BC MSI stopped paying the dude, should be fixed now since community stepped in

brisk topaz
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Msi afterburner uses winring0 and windows defender blocks it from opening and running

vagrant pagoda
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i have latest windows 11 and it works

brisk topaz
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I wouldnt trust fan fixes for a serious threat either

brisk topaz
vagrant pagoda
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it never stopped

astral haven
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Community paid the dev directly

vagrant pagoda
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i use it daily

astral haven
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Why is noone reporting it

vagrant pagoda
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if afterburner broke on windows it would be a big deal

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windows stopped ring0 all rgb would stop

lunar elm
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dont get me wrong RDNA4 has a decent featureset and good value assuming you can get the 9070xt at its MSRP- But other than for expedition 33 where my 5090 refuses to work properly, I have no reason to use the 70xt

astral haven
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Less huge deal now that nvidia app and adrenaline are both "working"
But still huge since its only good cross platform option

astral haven
vagrant pagoda
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i mean 9070xt isnt targeted at someone who can afford a 5090

brisk topaz
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Why compare a 9070xt to a 5090 thats dumb

astral haven
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Best from each competitor?

brisk topaz
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Compare it to a 5070 ti

astral haven
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I'm weird in that even the 5090 isn't fast enough for what I want but a lot of folks just want the best possible

lunar elm
unkempt lake
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You can't make a curve

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It's fucking dumb

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I know because i had to install msi afterburner to do so xD

astral haven
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Yes and no

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Its static until temp target

unkempt lake
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Well that's a moronic implementation

astral haven
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You only get to pick the temp and low speed but it wont burn your card like a normal static would

unkempt lake
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Also you can't set it per fan

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I just wanted to slow a worn out fan

astral haven
atomic jackal
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i need to know if this will work reliably with my rm850x psu for my pc because it came with a US cable (https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Leader-European-Schuko-IEC320/dp/B0DG433GNM?utm_source=chatgpt.com&th=1) please help meeeee

unkempt lake
astral haven
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Afterburner didn't for my cards

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And at the time evga was the #1

lunar elm
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i set mine to silent bios and called it a day lmao

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the main noise in my system would primarily be from my AIO

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those fans spin loud and fast under loud

astral haven
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I don't have any fans hooked to my gpu directly lel

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My fans aren't even hooked up to any of my PC temps, they just run based on water temp

lunar elm
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I remember seeing 80c GPU temp on the 4060 using 115w

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Now at the same wattage I see sub 40c