🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

though I think RD at least works on linux now

[vagrant heath]

jetbrains exists

[ashen spindle]

yeah and its shit

[vagrant heath]

i have .net-ed its okay-ish

[ashen spindle]

I pray for the day that mono gets thrown out of unitys backend Im not wishing for more of it

nvm renderdoc only has partial linux support still

[vagrant heath]

vulkan is better anyway trust

[ashen spindle]

sometimes yes sometimes no

though the worst part of vulkan is too low level for me so thats other peoples issues xD

[vagrant heath]

ofc not my above comment was slight satire mb

[steel current]

in this house we run the modular config as a git repo on forgejo 😎 👌

[vagrant heath]

wth is forgejo

[steel current]

github for schizophrenics

..that's gitea, forgejo is gitea for schizophrenics

[ashen spindle]

yup

[vagrant heath]

funny

i host my own gitlab xd

[steel current]

yeah that's what i meant sry

forgejo on my home server

[vagrant heath]

runs in docker right? (like you use docker right?)

[steel current]

nah

[vagrant heath]

anything does

[steel current]

i mean i use it just not for forgejo

[vagrant heath]

so why isolate in nix if you use docker anyway or am i missing something

[fair gull]

just wanna mention .net is linux compatible... theres just no good ides on linux for .net

[vagrant heath]

nvim exists

sad whale sounds

[steel current]

i ran nvim for a long time but switched to zed some time ago

other than the AI slop it's a really good editor imho

[vagrant heath]

the design looks jetbrains-y

[crimson wigeon]

I value GUIs by how well they do mouse highlighting, Zed's does this funny thing where if you put your mouse cursor right between two elements both get highlighted, but which one actually gets the click? Who knows!
But other than that it's fine I guess

[vagrant heath]

lol

TUI ftw

[steel current]

yeah but take it from a person that HATES jetbrains and intellij that zed is pretty cool

[vagrant heath]

that was not a quality-rating comment

[steel current]

it was though

[vagrant heath]

just looks familiar

[crimson wigeon]

Eh, to me Zed is more VSCode but with even more AI and holy shit it's Rust so it must be fucking incredible

[vagrant heath]

it runs webview2 after all

[crimson wigeon]

Electron moment

Eh debatable, autocomplete feels worse for me, don't like the interface for that as much

[vagrant heath]

kate mentioned xd

i used kate when i used plasma

(a long time ago) xd

[crimson wigeon]

I still use it sometimes for really quick things, sometimes but it just feels so scuffed for some reason

[vagrant heath]

i just nvim . for quick edits

[crimson wigeon]

I used to use nvim, but then I found hx and it makes a bit more sense to me so I prefer it

Like I always wanted to use kakoune but it lacked in the fancy crap department, Helix fits that void of being like it and having fancy crap

No ASCII art clippy though

[vagrant heath]

which twms tho

[crimson wigeon]

xmonad pretty based

[vagrant heath]

my journey was shorter

[crimson wigeon]

Boy do I want to

[thick elk]

Personally while trying other stuff started on xfce landed on plasma, never moved away from plasma after that.

[vagrant heath]

i started with plasma, then felt like exploring, tried hyprland (i was in my early stages of linux and didnt rtfm), raged -> went back to plasma. [quite some time passes here] then tried sway, got back into twms, sway felt outdated so i switched to hyprland (actually rtfm-ed this time) used it ever since

[crimson wigeon]

Ah kids these days, don't have to waste hours trying to get Compiz working for the blingbling

Hey it's why I dove deep into Linux back in the day! I wanted my cube NOW!

[vagrant heath]

yea but plasma felt awkward for me and i always wasted time dragging windows around beacuse of wobbly windows xd

+1

[crimson wigeon]

And Compiz

Young me definitely did not have fun with that, and setting windows to be so wobbly they would immediately wobble offscreen

Yeah well I had a cylinder and gears and fish swimming around inside it

[vagrant heath]

fishDE

[crimson wigeon]

When I closed windows they blew up into many pieces, if I then did the cube thing I saw the pieces in 3D wow technology and then add in the fire oh yeah waste all resources on the bling

[vagrant heath]

surely in c# lmao

[vagrant heath]

i feel you

[crimson wigeon]

and now I just use sway with no bling

[vagrant heath]

it just super+q -ed my productivity (plasma effects)

you're talking about ts?

never tried that

// TODO do smthn in ts with a compiler

client frameworks like react native?

i see

frontend is hard

frontend in terms of UX design

[vagrant heath]

so that someone that is not you can actually use your software

im a terrible designer when it comes to user-friendliness xd

peak

im talking desktop/touch applications

not a blog

blogs just need to be easy-to-read

gtg in 6 mins btw

yea i do "proper" application development (goes on industrial PCs)

yep

WPF 😭

target is windows sadly

pushing for linux on next major re-release

but i gotta maintain that c# now

cpp gui sounds cursed

[crimson wigeon]

So, Qt?

[vagrant heath]

never made anything for qt

[crimson wigeon]

Good

[vagrant heath]

not experienced in gtk either

anyway gn or whatever time yall have

[bright briar]

anyone here uses video editing software?

[pale sigil]

Well ok then, don't throw your echo dots away kids.... Amazon will offer 25% off and £5 even for a broken one lol

[bright briar]

i would never buy one of those

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/oakdice-runescape-gif-18004007

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

[unkempt lake]

these fuckers named them after me

Fuck jeff bezos

Hell @pale sigil didn't your amazon thingy turn on while we were playing fortnite

[sudden imp]

Your name is echo?

[unkempt lake]

no

alexa

these stupid things ship with alexa as the default thing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bonk-head-wall-silly-kitty-gif-984373337794360780

@sudden imp

[bright briar]

naw she has another name but i cant type it or i'll get banned

i'll give you a hint it starts with a R

[sudden imp]

That’s less cool than echo

[bright briar]

depends where you're standing from i guess

[static raptor]

I don't know what happened. I did a bit of cable management and took apart my setup. Now I can't set my main monitor to 1440p and 480Hz anymore. It always switches to 1080p. If I select 1440p, it drops to 60Hz and the maximum I can choose is 240Hz. What could be the issue?

its connected to the right port in my gpu and its a displayport kable

did i broke my kable or some ?

[tribal dirge]

LMAO

[tribal dirge]

Are you sure you are using DP 2.1 cable?

[unkempt lake]

it makes me die inside

[tribal dirge]

Felt

[unkempt lake]

first day of covid virtual meeting

someone says my name

[static raptor]

its the same kabelk i had before i changed nothing

[tribal dirge]

And people's random echos start going off?

[unkempt lake]

disaste

yes

[tribal dirge]

LMAO

[compact relic]

alexa play despacito

[tribal dirge]

It's not that hard to mute them

[unkempt lake]

no

[tribal dirge]

Thankfully

[unkempt lake]

[tribal dirge]

Hmm, you sure you plugged the dp cable into the gpu and not the motherboard?

[unkempt lake]

tru

[tribal dirge]

Well "mute" them

[static raptor]

yes 100 %

[tribal dirge]

Weirdddddd

[static raptor]

im getting kinda mad what is this always

could be the kabel broken ?

[somber coral]

Tf are these

And these two are servers?

[halcyon moss]

How did you get these

Because it looks like ups stuff

[tribal dirge]

Both of those look like computers

[tribal dirge]

These are likely programmable logic controllers

[somber coral]

The power of random shit in my attic

[somber coral]

I thought they were servers

[tribal dirge]

Same difference

[somber coral]

Since one has an IP on the front

[tribal dirge]

Yeah they're probably computers that controlled a machine of some sorts

[pale sigil]

Router and firewall.

[rough patrol]

Yeah i was about to say, that looks an awful lot like networking equipment

[fair gull]

its cnc equipment

http://www.cechina.cn/Company/168104_71245/productdetail.aspx

heres another of their products

[old marlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6O33icSM3o

[magic minnow]

[old marlin]

You don't want ads but you also don't wanna pay

So how are they supposed to finance their service

[halcyon moss]

Source, or it didn't happen

[ashen spindle]

They did update their guidelines basically just to be stricter when it comes to people reuploading content and such

It’s neither new nor an anti ai push just updates to the current system

[reef patrol]

Watch there be zero enforcement of this whatsoever.

Still a million splitscreen shorts that are just blatant reuploads on new, generated accounts.

[umbral heron]

It's one thing to show ads
It's quite another showing AI-generated and/or pornography ads, dontcha think?

[fickle ore]

Give logged in users 0.05€ for every correctly reported AI slop video? Essentially free moderators!

[marsh glade]

"Pay them!" "Free labor!" wat

[umbral heron]

Give users ability to report AI slop and make sure that results are actually visible - that's enough

[magic minnow]

Like the ditto nsfw ad I got

[magic minnow]

https://x.com/teamyoutube/status/1940584542198550684?

TeamYouTube (@TeamYouTube)

@Dexerto Not exactly.. to clarify, this is a minor update to our long-standing YPP policies to help us *better identify* when content is mass-produced or repetitive. This type of content has already been ineligible for monetization for years, and is content viewers often consider spam

X · Jul 3, 2025, 1:33 AM

[thick elk]

That said I would not completely rule out AI.
I can see scenario's where it is used to create worthwile content.
For example someone making interesting things, but only speaks chinese to narrate it, or otherwise has trouble.
AI imagery as illustration / filler content for talking (aka stock footage replacement)

That said AI slob no please.

[lofty pivot]

I’m curious how long they’re able to detect ai content though. The quality of the renders is getting better and better every update

[vapid ruin]

can't wait for it to become too good

[ashen spindle]

Don’t think they actually care about ai generated content as much as just duplicated stuff

[marsh glade]

I don't think they'd care about duplicated stuff either if they could use a single file for it

[lunar elm]

Im gonna guess its gonna start off with detecting the generic AI voices

“Jack, the fucking idiot in x movie”

[lofty pivot]

I wonder how long it’ll take to detect all the ai bible vloggers

That trend was at least mildly amusing for the start

[fair gull]

the issue is not being able to have viewer retention on duplicate content not the storage space. google has quite good deduplication on their cloud

its literally just no good advertiser money coming in from mostly duplicate content

[whole tiger]

Does someone have any experience with the Thieaudio Hype 4 IEM or the Blessing 3‘s and which would you recommend for Fps gaming and Music?

[marsh glade]

The most correct place for this question is in #🌐│pc_gear though it's not a big deal that you posted it here

If you don't get an answere here, consider asking there too

[whole tiger]

Didn’t see the channel so i asked here mb

[keen condor]

Hi guys! Anyone knows any extra large glass mousepads available in EU? Ive been using artisan (a combo of their XXL + XL ones next to each other) for a while, but wanna try a glass one.

The problem is, i wanna keep it relatively the same size, at most -10cm from what i have. (Min. 75cm in length then). I swear its impossible to find a glass mousepad this big, but maybe anyone here knows where i can look?

[lunar elm]

wtaf click to cancel got cancelled

[marsh glade]

I guess it didn't click

[whole tiger]

Only big glasspad i am aware of is the xxl superglide v2 from pulsar

98cm x 42cm x 1.5cm

[winter patrol]

IIRC Spacepad goes up to 850x400mm, not sure if they’re on Aliexpress or not

[bright briar]

why foldable touch screens is such a sin but doesnt look bad either

https://tenor.com/view/open-fold-phone-marques-brownlee-tablet-like-phone-landscape-phone-huawei-mate-xt-gif-14773030117761267061

[tribal dirge]

You should see the galaxy fold 7

It's thinner than the S25 edge

So the fold 7 is actually normal sized when it's folded up!

[bright briar]

yeah i been seeing that

doesnt look bad either

[tribal dirge]

Kinda sad that it doesn't use the new silicon carbon batteries though

[fickle ore]

@gusty kiln AMD buckle up

[analog sinew]

did intel figure out what sand is good for?

[frozen ingot]

soon we can replace 50% of the sand with AI

[ashen spindle]

no but the new ceo is basically private equity so excpect them to find a way to not figure out anything

[fickle ore]

bers make money, bulls make money, pigs get slaughtered

[ashen spindle]

so what is intel, the overgrown old pig that will get cut up?

[fickle ore]

as long as it makes me a buck or two

[rough patrol]

Oh he‘s gonna strip it all down and sell it for parts

[umbral heron]

Good
Maybe finally someone competent will take care of designing CPUs
Ahyo, hey guuuuuys, we introduced cool new thing called AVX512
Ahyo, 2 gens later we do not include it in our CPUs
Hey guuuuuys, we removed SMT from our CPUs because we can't optimize them so all it's left to do is to just pump more power into them

[frozen ingot]

if am interested in a goods/service for whatever reason and hear "private equity" mentioned in regards to the ownership or main shareholder I insta-bail

[fickle ore]

Well its not lol

Quin is just speculating on the CEO and CEO does not have more power than the board in any case

[frozen ingot]

its like the markets/capitalisms answer to cancer tumors

[steel current]

i just need to increase the frequency

[ashen spindle]

Nah if you have SMT or not is just a design choice that ends up as a result of how you do the rest, its not inherently bad

the rest is valid

[ashen spindle]

https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2025/07/intels-ceo-we-are-not-in-the-top-10-of-leading-chip-companies.html idk any new interview with him just sounds like someones talking to a venture capitalist

I miss pat

[umbral heron]

remember guuuuuys
bigger clock better ahyo
single core perf still most important like in 2010 huehuehue

[umbral heron]

Pat could do this, but investors were impatient

[fickle ore]

He has his own investment company, but hes been ages in Intel & Cadence and I believe genuinely wants intel to do good

[fickle ore]

Lots of hard choices

[ashen spindle]

yes but his idea of good is from the view of an investor almost lol

[fickle ore]

Like every CEO? 😛

[ashen spindle]

which usually is neither good for the company long term nor the people

[fickle ore]

Their main purpose is to increase shareholder value

[ashen spindle]

no a good ceo does what investors want at minimum then tries to make an actual good company

[fickle ore]

Nah

Increasing shareholder value mainly comes from better products

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

if you maximize shareholder value you inherently let the company/employers suffer

[fickle ore]

Nah

First u gotta have a good product to sell

[ashen spindle]

because shareholder value is tied to shorterm profit only

[fickle ore]

No? lol

[frozen ingot]

wE nOw MaKe PrOdUcTs As A sErViCe

[umbral heron]

Nah mate
If that was the case there wouldn't be such concept as enshittification
It's never about better products, it's all about milking as much money during a product cycle

[fickle ore]

If it sells really well, it clears the "good"

If sales increase while they keep worsening the quality thats just creating a better product

[frozen ingot]

sure would be nice if shareholder value equated a better product but its more like how can we make this product cheaper and shittier while also figuring out an excuse to raise the price

[umbral heron]

There are good products that don't sell
And shite ones which sell like crazy

[fickle ore]

Good is in the eye of the beholder, this is a popularity contest

capitalism that is

[frozen ingot]

its basically a race to the bottom on the end consumer side

we're paying more than ever for less than ever

[fickle ore]

And you're paying 😄

[umbral heron]

But don't worry, you'll buy RTX 6090 with 16xDLSS anyway, Daddy Jensen needs new leather jacket

[frozen ingot]

well yes, because often there's not much of a choice

[fickle ore]

Oh they took your free will?

[frozen ingot]

are we going to pretend like some possessions aren't essential to actually live a functioning life

those products are affected as well

[fickle ore]

Yeah like a 6090

[umbral heron]

Free will
Consumers would have to think first and make reasonable purchases
Which they don't do

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[steel current]

funds are safu

[rough osprey]

my goat

[frozen ingot]

screw gpus, that shit is a pure luxury commodity in this day and age

[fickle ore]

Yea but a 50-100k car is a must bc security

[umbral heron]

Nah, it's 50~100k car, because everyone wants these damn trucks nowadays

[frozen ingot]

but even there nvidia trying to screw you by selling less raw hardware power for the same or higher price and pretend like AI magically makes up for it

[steel current]

idgi how can you find a car over anything over 10k attractive to buy

[frozen ingot]

and don't even get me started on the damn car market

[steel current]

unless it's a passion project someone would either have to pay me or give it to me for free and let me recycle it for scrap if it's some 120k hybrid touchscreen voice assistant slop

[frozen ingot]

but your econobox totally needs an 18 speaker infotainment system, sensors and cameras everywhere and luxury interior trim

[steel current]

ive seen shitters with wheels attached and lawnmower engines have better bang-for-buck ratios

[frozen ingot]

how else we gonna charge you 30k+ for a small hatchback

[fickle ore]

There are few avenues to do that and that is one of them certainly. Whenever you've exhausted creativity and filled your company with bean counters all they can think is reducing expenses for growth and that happens, not all companies do that or have to do that. It's just the easiest route for a mature company. Unluckily I'm in one of those companies

[umbral heron]

Remember about front camera, because not only front bumper is 2 meter high, also seats are so low that you only see the sky

[steel current]

iron lung is a dodge driving simulator

[frozen ingot]

also they just bolted on a fuckin flatscreen on top of the dashboard where the gauge cluster used to be so its further obstructing your already garbage visibility

[umbral heron]

Ah yeah
inFOtAInmENt

[frozen ingot]

but look how much useful information it can display to distract you

and pretty graphics

[ashen spindle]

well you definitely exhaust creativity if you do things like only approve >50% margin projects, cut down on things, fire people to handle PR with an ai agency etc.

[fickle ore]

They're kind of fucked until they get major fab contracts so ig they're trying everything for now

Their only cash generator is the design rn and is losing market share

But biggest expense is fabs

Lol

[ashen spindle]

fabs are saving and killing intel at the same time

[fickle ore]

Yea

But outsourcing marketing when its non-core might be good? Idk im somehow reading it as good

leaner meaner

[ashen spindle]

well it means contact to press/analysts etc is also fucked, which is bad for just everyone involved

also just going to make anything marketing even more of a shitshow

[fickle ore]

Ah yeah, tru,

[viral forum]

does anyone knows what wooting use to map hall sensor value to a distance, do they use a lookup table created by experimental measurement and using some sort of polynomial regression?

[umbral heron]

That's just exponential curve, magnets don't really have some other specific characteristics

[bright briar]

"What daddy wants...Daddy gets"

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle my friend just replaced his cooler but his 5950x is still running 90c at idle

CPU cooked?

[fickle ore]

Summer

[pale sigil]

90c idle isn't because "summer"

[fickle ore]

U in spain 47c ambient?

[pale sigil]

No XD

[fickle ore]

xD

[pale sigil]

I told him to let me fit his cooler so I'm there to help any further issues but he didn't opt to

[ashen spindle]

uhhh idle? cooler not seated correctly?

is the cooler working

[fickle ore]

broken temp probe if seated properly

[ashen spindle]

is it actually at idle or is something running

check if clocks do drop/temps goes higher when he does put any load on it

also did that randomly start before or did he also have these temps on the 5905x since first install

[pale sigil]

Ire a thermal peerless assassin and the other one was a Corsair cooler

[pale sigil]

Just logged in

[pale sigil]

Happening for a few months

[ashen spindle]

that doesnt mean something isnt running

check if clocks/temp/performance goes worse when running anything

also wtf you mean months, I cant imagine if its actually thermal limited on stock he got anything working well for months

[pale sigil]

He's bringing it around

[plush stirrup]

Could be too much thermal paste and having the cooler not tight enough on there?

[pale sigil]

Looks like it might have been the way he put the fan in

[plush stirrup]

ahh

my bf had his AIO pump die (very bad thermal throttling, cooler could get rid of max 50W at times, other times it was 99°C in bios) new AIO cooled better, but still not fully cooling the CPU getting rid of max 100W, thermal paste was too thick I'm assuming, since tightening it worked.

HWInfo's logging function and genericlogviewer could help you see when it throttles

[lyric hatch]

Air cooler never died on me

[plush stirrup]

My arctic hasn't died on me either 😛

6years warranty, should be long enough 🥲

[frozen ingot]

tower cooling goated

[plush stirrup]

When I checked no air cooler could cool my CPU

[steady sail]

My 58x3d is pretty much chilling under an AIO

[frozen ingot]

there aren't all that many AIOs that'll handle the collapsed star segment cpus flawlessly either

[plush stirrup]

if I leave my CPU on auto in bios settings I'm pretty sure it'll just saturate whatever the AIO can handle...

I think I've seen it use 290W before 😄

[steady sail]

Why do u have a space heater ?

[plush stirrup]

It's an intel

If I let my PC have it's way and stress test it the GPU would go to like 460W and CPU 250ish because I limited it to it's TDP instead of the motherboard's unlimited TDP 😄

[steady sail]

Okay sorry why do u have the SUN in your room ?

[plush stirrup]

the sun is my LED lights 😄 35W in LED's or so

[old marlin]

why use almost 300W when half that is enough to beat your CPU

[plush stirrup]

Intel moment 😄

[steady sail]

The most watt that my CPU ever used was 95w or whatever LUL

[old marlin]

the 9800x3d can do 160

[frozen ingot]

whoever sold you on that cpu probably got promoted to chief salesman at his workplace

[old marlin]

why tf would you name that emote poggies 💀

[plush stirrup]

I bought it, and not much later the intel drama happened with intel's shit production and now I get monthly bios updates or smth

[old marlin]

bro if it was only the quality issues

the CPUs just straihgt up aren't that good

that is like sticking a "I bought it before he was crazy" sticker on a cybertruck

[plush stirrup]

At least I am on the graph

[plush stirrup]

I bought it before it was discovered it was put together with glue, more like it 😄

[old marlin]

???

[frozen ingot]

yeah intel was in a heap of controversy for quite some time before the whole manufacturing/oxidation scandal

[plush stirrup]

I could care less what the CEO's believe or do, as long as the product is fine

[old marlin]

it wasn't fine before the quality issues

[plush stirrup]

Sure efficiency wasn't great, but I stuck with it since well, it had always been fine for me before

[unkempt lake]

Brand loyalty is a meme

Guess you learned it the hard way

[plush stirrup]

yeah... and when I switch to AMD for GPU it also breaks

[steady sail]

I cant wait for Intel’s Nova Lake i9’s to reach 8ghz with boost alone

[steel current]

🙏

[frozen ingot]

afaik intel systems are/were more forgiving with choice of ram types and generally regarded as a more OCable platform, but am not sure how true either of that is especially nowadays

[plush stirrup]

I can say, if I touch my CPU at all instead of leaving it on auto it's unstable

Maybe their new bios will be more forgiving, might try it

[old marlin]

DDR5 always is fussy and both manufacturers run the CPUs at the limit of what they wanna do

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle twas the fan the wrong way around, idle is about 65c now and games around 70-75c

Also cleaned a little

Very hot CPU oml

[gusty kiln]

why what happened

[primal nymph]

New gpu my camera makes the case look dirty but it’s not

5070ti Rog strix

From a practically broken. 2080ti would crash under any load

[balmy vector]

Very good… now its time for half life 2

[steady sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa8nMiEoti0 actuall good video from Jayz ?

and its about Linux

[reef patrol]

actuall good video from Jayz ?
Impossible.

[bright briar]

jayz actually having two cents ? 🤯

[balmy vector]

No

[hazy imp]

is there a fix for this? im trying to update my 60he to the latest model.

[whole osprey]

To people who own oled monitors and don’t have micro scratches on their screen. What cleaning methods do you use for your monitor? Just distilled water and microfiber cleaning cloths?

[tribal dirge]

I use a cleaning solution for screens

Lemme find it

I use this one for basically everything https://www.amazon.com/WHOOSH-Award-Wining-Screen-Cleaner-Smartphones/dp/B076HFYGLR/

[digital cliff]

isn't the surface of the screen basically similar no matter what panel tech you have

[tribal dirge]

I've had zero issues with it corroding or delaminating of the layers with it

[tribal dirge]

It depends

Some of my monitors are glass

Some are a special plastic with a polarizing layer

[digital cliff]

regardless, clean cloth and water should be fine

[tribal dirge]

And some are glossy plastic, some are more matte

[digital cliff]

not sure how it gets scratched

[tribal dirge]

For me water tends to smear oils rather than actually get rid of them

[tribal dirge]

Hence why I use this

[umbral heron]

You can use 30% iso/water mix to get rid of oils

[digital cliff]

I guess.. how are your screens oily

[umbral heron]

No idea

[tribal dirge]

Child touches screen, screen how have fingerprint and skin oil on it

[umbral heron]

Mine only have dust on them

[digital cliff]

ahh, solution is burn child at stake

[tribal dirge]

No, I don't need CPS at my house

[umbral heron]

No... not again... We were almost thrown out from church last time

[whole osprey]

So if I’m careful enough when cleaning with this I can possible avoid micro scratch on oled monitors? (I know it’s not ideal with my thought process. Just curious)

[tribal dirge]

Micro scratches mostly has to do with the actual material of the cloth itself

As long as it's a clean microfiber you're using you should be fine

[steep sable]

jojojo does anyone here have Wooting and have good wootility settings?

[whole osprey]

Thank you. I don’t care about small micro scratches just care about the big ones. Also hopefully they are not noticeable when the monitor is on 🙏

[tribal dirge]

The small ultra tiny ones are not noticeable at all.

But you shouldn't have to worry about deeper scratches with a clean microfiber like I said.

[whole osprey]

What are your thoughts on distill water over cleaning solutions?

I even some people claim to use their hot breath then wipe with microfiber cloths 🤣

[tribal dirge]

@whole osprey

That's my experience

[whole osprey]

Ah okay

[tribal dirge]

Just be careful to not spit on your monitor by accident.

[whole osprey]

Bro I won’t 🤣 this is coming from a dude who spent two weeks building his first custom built pc bc he doesn’t want to break the pc parts

Tysm for the help

[tribal dirge]

No problem!

[pale sigil]

Didn't realise how hot the 9800x3d gets

[magic minnow]

Using a AIO or Fan?

Thermalright released their cool new cpu cooler

But it’s 100$ idk if I should get

[frozen ingot]

are you building a new pc?

[magic minnow]

Nu

[frozen ingot]

then no, changing cooler is a hassle

the rule of pc building is if it works on the first go don't touch that bitch again until its retiring

[rough osprey]

boooring

[pale sigil]

Both

[ashen spindle]

That’s such a non sentence because even a 1W cup can get hot

What cooler, what load, what temps etc.

[upbeat lake]

can anyone help me, just got my keyboard but its rgb wont work for me idk why everytime i try it comes up with a error saying "you have selected a non-static base effent. The colour of the effect overrides the colour of the keys" but my keyboard is all black no lights

[pale sigil]

Yes, yes and yes.

[reef patrol]

It's a Ryzen. It will keep clocking till it gets too hot.

Welcome to actually getting performance 😄

[ashen spindle]

Ehh not really with vcache you generally run into voltage limits first with any decent cooler

[umbral heron]

7800x3d ran even hotter because of v-cache being on top

[ashen spindle]

Mine never really runs into thermal limitations and I only have a small noctua in it not even the big cooler

[umbral heron]

I have my old brick and I never saw my 7xxx and 9xxx running higher than 85C

[reef patrol]

That is not the same as "my CPU damn hot"

Callum thinks anything over 50 is hot af 😄

[ashen spindle]

Well idk what he thinks because he’s only posting sentence that we get 0 info from

[reef patrol]

My 7800X3D practically idles at 55-60

[ashen spindle]

But the clocking to tjmax is more of a thing on non vcache chips in general because coolers are generally good enough to otherwise keep that in check

[marsh glade]

I turned my fans down because they got annoyingly loud

Just thermal throttle, it's fine, I want to game in peace

[analog sinew]

what a quote

[steel current]

same temps as mine

[vagrant pagoda]

Thanks Steve

[pale sigil]

But ye, even idle temps are kinda high Vs what I'm used to on my peasant 5600x

[vagrant pagoda]

thats just how am5 be

[pale sigil]

Aye

Just didn't realise

My itx dreams are shattered again

[ashen spindle]

You still haven’t said anything beyond vague word like “kinda high”

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

And just temperature is not related to power so no itx isn’t affected by temperature alone

[hasty thunder]

Achievement unlocked: Get fucked, because Mobo and shit is stuck in the processing step

[reef patrol]

Soon™

[reef patrol]

[hasty thunder]

fuckers hold my upgrade hostage

[devout raptor]

does anyone have a quick bluetooth speaker recommendation :D

[pale sigil]

Anker for budget XD

[digital cliff]

the JBL stuff never let me down, I have the Charge 5

[leaden kiln]

I gave my mom a JBL flip 6 and she likes it, but I don't use speakers myself

[devout raptor]

turned off my brain and got a charge 6

I will find it for cheaper online and return this one I just bought cuz I needed it asap

[bright briar]

how hot does it get bruv?

[bright briar]

msi x870 tomahawk better 😛

[mystic cobalt]

My neighbours dog, never runs out of battery and is loud enough on any setting

[devout raptor]

80-90° with 360mm aio

die temp is 50° idle

[hasty thunder]

doesn't even run confirmed 8000+ MT

[bright briar]

the asus x870 shares pcie lanes

[ashen spindle]

thats not something thats just universally true

[bright briar]

Chihuahua?

[hasty thunder]

it does, but how many PCIe devices are you going to use realistically?!? 16?

[bright briar]

maybe

[hasty thunder]

at best you're probably using 2 NVMe's and 1 GPU

and none of the NVMe's will be PCIe 5.0

5.0x4 = 4.0x8 = 3.0x16

[bright briar]

are you upgrading your gpu as well or naw

[hasty thunder]

already am on a 9070 XT PowerColor Red Devil

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-nodding-nod-yes-yup-gif-13973219

[hasty thunder]

too bad AMD decided not to release a 9090 XT, because it would've wiped the floor with a 5090

[bright briar]

yea nvidiaiai been slacking

[hasty thunder]

or at least give us an optional unlocked Powerlimit BIOS for the 9070 XT

but i guess i have to go with a physical mod for that

which is why i've ordered a 1300W PSU

Cybenetics Platinum approved ofc

[bright briar]

i been hearing good things about lian li psu. I was debating on picking it up as well for my lian li case when i upgrade later this year

[devout raptor]

oh

are they not atleast average

[hasty thunder]

whatcha mean? the temps?!?

80-90 is not an average state if done correctly. Usually you're running -50 to 100 mV and +200 MHz PBO

which results in around 70 degrees with a Liquid Freezer 3 360

[ashen spindle]

how would they be average if its very different depending on what cooler people use, what they do, what the ambient is etc.

[hasty thunder]

that's true, but anyone who buys something like a 9800X3D or better should actually be aware of the fact that sufficient cooling is necessary

[ashen spindle]

meh it really isnt if you game, mid size aircooler does its job just fine

[hasty thunder]

anyway, i have to use my LF2 360 for a while before my Lian Li Galahad arrives

[magic minnow]

Im using an air cooler on mine

[plush stirrup]

tss only 90°C on a 360mm AIO? 😄

[analog sinew]

which is totally sufficient?

my 9800x3d reaches like max 80ish on gaming on an nhd15

well ventilated case but 🤷‍♂️

and i can do prime95 to hit like... 90

so all is well

[magic minnow]

I want new cpu cooler though

[analog sinew]

whatchu got?

[steady sail]

Its fiiine

[magic minnow]

I got a thermalright royal pretor but I want the new one they released the ultra

https://www.thermalright.com/product/royal-pretor-130/

The ultra has 7 pipes

[vagrant pagoda]

the boost clock frequency and stability is what you want to check on them, not temps

same with gpus

[steady sail]

I know that my GPU’s memory temps are hight but i dont mind it

[unkempt lake]

What speed do you run your fans at

Max i get is like 75c on my 7800x3d when gaming on a really cpu intensive game with my fans at 1200rpm static on my nh u12a

And like 80-85 if its pinned due to shaders

[analog sinew]

relatively low, like 30-40%

atm its running at 600 rpm

temps are high forties

[unkempt lake]

Ye that's when doing nothing for me

[analog sinew]

ye its pretty much idle atm

[unkempt lake]

But then its just a slow ramp to 1200 and static

[mystic cobalt]

I dunno but goes from 7am till easily 11 at night

Some days I wish I was in China...

Wait can I say that

I dunno but I gues it's been done

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-meme-john-xina-gif-23649557

[bright briar]

they got that cool fold phones too

[mystic cobalt]

Yeah this is exactly what I meant, great minds think alike

[bright briar]

that new samsung z fold 7 looks good

the blue is a nice colour imo

[mystic cobalt]

Ain't they hella pricey though

[bright briar]

arent they all hella pricey?

[mystic cobalt]

True 🤣

[bright briar]

but yeah it is

[mystic cobalt]

My issue is I'd rather buy more keyboards and keycaps than a phone

Got to have enough keyboards to display the keycaps... am I right or have I been doing it wrong

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragonballsuper-dragonball-meme-language-of-gods-gif-14707991

[unkempt lake]

https://www.techspot.com/news/108632-gpd-micropc-2-495-pocket-sized-pc-intel.html

[leaden kiln]

it looks like they kept a pretty similar aspect ratio which is nice

[old marlin]

oh did they finally catch up to honor

[leaden kiln]

they made it thinner #cringe, but now the camera bump is just comical
would need to get a really fat case to make it flat 🥹

[bright briar]

the cases i seen for it help with it and its not fat cases either

[leaden kiln]

they should've just made it thicker and flat (in my, probably crazy sounding, opinion)

[old marlin]

it was stupidly thick before

[leaden kiln]

it was fine before

[old marlin]

in a vacuum maybe

the honor magic v3 was straight up a better phone than the last fold

and honor already revised that twice

[leaden kiln]

in my hands
I've used a fold 3 and now I'm using a fold 5
that's just my opinion, I know that isn't gonna be what gets new people buying phones

[old marlin]

the magic v3 was already basically a normal phone if you have it folded

thickness wise

so you could just use it

the fold 6 was stupidly thick when folded

[bright briar]

if it makes you feel better the fold 7 is a bit harder to open

[leaden kiln]

that's not a bad thing really
the folds are already a lot more effort to pry open than the flips, but that's intentional

[bright briar]

if it wasnt so expensive and available in my country i would test out the huawei mate XT

[leaden kiln]

yeah I'm just saying I don't care much personally about the thickness, id rather a smaller camera bump
though I also can't really say for sure, I haven't used a really thin one extensively

[old marlin]

being able to use it like a regular phone helps

[leaden kiln]

I'm obviously biased but I have no problems at all using my fold as a normal phone with the cover screen, even with a thick case on it
it's nice having the taller cover screen, it's easy to write one handed with it, and the phone is still in portrait when you open it which is great

I tried the pixel 9 pro fold in a store and it bothered me that it's so wide folded up, also sad that it opens to landscape

thinner and wider like a normal phone is almost certainly what most people would want, especially for people who haven't used older foldables

[steady sail]

https://youtu.be/NlAXGl7iQFI?si=GKiznFPVbxVYHF9z

[ashen spindle]

bit of a copium video

[steady sail]

Yeah

[plush stirrup]

I love dearrow 😄

[ashen spindle]

huh what thats not the focus of the video though lol

like, not at all lol

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ayaneo-flip-1s-ds-a-dual-screen-gaming-handheld-with-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370-debuts-at-1299

If only it wasn't so fucking expensive

[analog sinew]

ah the weekly ayaneo console

[unkempt lake]

It has 2 screens tho

[bright briar]

@unkempt lake

@magic minnow

https://tenor.com/view/amazed-kpop-demon-hunters-excited-thrilled-netflix-gif-12222985319743922446

[steady sail]

actually that case is cool and even the keycaps and the mousepad lol

[bright briar]

too bad it cost like an arm and a leg

CAD

[steady sail]

tbh it is a collab item soo im not suprised

[bright briar]

the case still expensive

but with the collab its more

[steady sail]

i know that the Y70 is expensive

tbh im not the biggest fan of the y70 case

[sudden imp]

X50 looks really good

[plush stirrup]

damn, they've lied to me!

[magic minnow]

gundam!

[bright briar]

sorry for tagging you in the same pic twice. I was hyped

[magic minnow]

You’re fine lol

I like wing but Gundam 00 is my favorite

[bright briar]

while playing armor core vi i would blast gundam wing and evangelion openings

also enjoyed gundam seed destiny

[lunar elm]

00 my goat

[trim crane]

2 of my friends just bought 9070 XTs

really hope they like them

[bright briar]

which brands?

im looking at some right now but they its not msrp pricing

im looking at powercolor

https://a.co/d/2QOzs4U

[trim crane]

prime oc

because small black card with 3x8 and 3xDP

[bright briar]

i see i see

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-notes-gif-17478299096235163441

[trim crane]

I wanted a small black card because I like my parts to look as sleek and minimal as possible while still being SFF friendly

[bright briar]

im trying to do an all white build

been annoying so far

[trim crane]

white builds aside from availability and price is annoying

its either half baked or wrong color of white

too red or too blue

[bright briar]

yeah i have a white keyboard and mouse

[trim crane]

luckily black doesn't have that issue, or is less prominent

[bright briar]

so if i have another black build i feel like it would look ass

with my kb and etc

maybe i'll just do black fish tank case

because i never had all white pc so im afraid to get blinded by rgb light

i been eyeing the lian li compact case

[trim crane]

send pic of it

[lunar elm]

For white I just went with non RGB

White RGB is the most annoying to deal with

[bright briar]

but i would use white rgb and dim the brightness

[bright briar]

that is true

i saw a video of it once and i was like fml

[lunar elm]

The only RGB i have is outta my mobo bottom part and the GPU lmao

[bright briar]

@trim crane i would like for my next pc build to look like one of these

i think the black one is really nice

i would probably get all black case fans instead of the rgb one he has

and then the only rgb would come from ram and maybe gpu (depending which one i got)

[trim crane]

but no rog card

[bright briar]

yeah

[trim crane]

because too expensive

[bright briar]

i miss the rog

[bright briar]

that too

[analog sinew]

thank god for fractal inventig wood

[lunar elm]

thats like x10 the size of what I want my next pc build to be in

[lunar elm]

republic of fucked up RMAs

eh sry i forgot off the 2nd @

[lunar elm]

tbh aorus master is a great alternative

[nimble arch]

4G speeds at Stansted Airport are better than the 5G speeds I get at home most of the time

[reef patrol]

There are many ways to keep idiots from opening their electronics. Apple decided to use the approach of needing a ridiculously long screwdriver to open the Mac Classic.

[digital cliff]

you mean that there are many ways to try and prevent users from doing their own maintenance, instead requiring them to pay exorbitant amounts for simple fixes at official certified repair shops, Apple leading the charge on this both now and evidently also in the past*

[reef patrol]

Companies cared a lot less then, cause only real nerds would dare open them for the most part.

But ehh... CRTs could kill you, if you didn't know what you were doing.

In fact most Macs of this era still around, will have done kind of user mod added, when you pop them open after buying them somewhere. Ram extenders, speaker mods, bodge wires to unlock stuff.

[analog sinew]

a modern pc psu can still kill you :D

[distant tapir]

CRTs are scarier than PSUs

CRTs are in front of your face and they can implode

[nimble arch]

I don’t see a CRT in front of me right now

Check mate atheists

[analog sinew]

sorry lil froggy you gotta touch the funny capacitor

[analog sinew]

the power of CRTist compels you! ✝️

[reef patrol]

Sure. But it isn't open to the touch normally when servicing a PC. They are in Macs like these.

It's right in your face when the lid Is off.

[magic minnow]

Nothing cofounder

[umbral heron]

The guys who added stopwatch to the screen on the back of their phone, which would be a cool addition, but to start and stop it you need to press it for a while which defeats completely purpose of a stopwatch?

[nimble arch]

Watch them do a OnePlus and just become flagship priced in five years

[umbral heron]

We are signaling ambitions by raising the prices

You see, we didn't had to raise price of our phones, but we chose to. That takes courage.

[steel current]

hey shhh iphone users might catch wind of this and buy up the stock

[analog sinew]

wish we had value for money brands, overpriced flex brands is what we have enough

but good2know i dont even need to consider nothing, i was gonna take a look at it next phone upgrade

[distant tapir]

[pale sigil]

Haven't they already done that?

Most of their phones are overpriced for what you get.

Lol

The only reasonable one seems to be cmf pro 2

Like why on earth would you get a nothing phone 3 which costs more than an s25 which btw I really don't like Samsung and you can get the plus a similar price if not a little more sometimes.

[pale sigil]

Tbh as much as I hate Xiaomi I think they hit that sweet spot sometimes

I'm really happy with this Poco F7 Pro which was quite cheap for what you get, however their lower tier phones are just rough, especially HyperOS which seems to be more infested the cheaper the phone is.

But also the CMF 2 Pro is pretty decent TBF so nothing does have some value for money.

[devout raptor]

core or die temp

[analog sinew]

uh core i think

[devout raptor]

oh

yea my core is lower in just looking at the dcc die temp or whatever its called

[analog sinew]

i lied

thank you

[magic minnow]

I’m gonna get 1000000 of these and attack Australia
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hengbot/sirius-the-worlds-most-dynamic-robotic-dog-for-endless-fun?

[analog sinew]

"endless fun" theyre gonna strap guns to it

[steady sail]

nah Australia has Spiders and Snakes nah they won

Spider HQ always won

[magic minnow]

They’ll weaponize the box jellyfish

[steady sail]

and use Spider Jockeys

[magic minnow]

Passive from the bottom

[reef patrol]

Both should be exhaust

[magic minnow]

Ohhhh okok

[reef patrol]

The case gets cold air from below and the front.

[magic minnow]

Should the cpu fan be blowing out towards the back or towards the front

[reef patrol]

Out the back, out the top.

[magic minnow]

Tyty

[ashen spindle]

shouldnt the first top fan be intake?

[analog sinew]

wood cases wood cases wood cases

[reef patrol]

[analog sinew]

gotta be my favorite gender

[ashen spindle]

ala this

or is the layout diffeerent in the small box? idk where exactly the fans would be

[reef patrol]

What are you smoking Noctua. You don't want air vortexes.

[ashen spindle]

no this is the best way for temps because otherwise the intake from the frton gets partially exhausted before it can cool the cpu

[reef patrol]

No it doesn't.

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdFQL3t5rmQ

idk its how the theory shows it, the visual of the airflow and the results

https://faqs.noctua.at/en/support/solutions/articles/101000530852-airflow-guide-next-steps if you want the noctua page

[analog sinew]

top exhaust at the rear good at the front bad

at the front you want top intake

[ashen spindle]

could be different with FE models of the latest generation because they are blowthrough so they push air up too

[reef patrol]

Or using remotely decent fans made for pushing air, and pushing through metal gaps respectively. But with an FE card you might genuinely need more intake at the top, as much as it loathes me to say - though don't use Noctua fans, cause they look ugly as sin when reversed.

Reverse blade when you cavemen.

[analog sinew]

i have a noctua top exhaust :D

cant see it unless you look

[ashen spindle]

no with an FE card you mgiht need top exhaust in the front is my point xD

[reef patrol]

Also AIO and loop havers obviously don't need this, cause there's nothing to cool in a specific spot.

[reef patrol]

Then you're just causing more hot air to go through the CPU.

[analog sinew]

i had a 120 mil leftover so i added it and run it rly low jsut to get some extra exhaust out cause i have alotta intakes

[ashen spindle]

well that depends, it could be hot air but could also be higher airflow vs it being almost stale air from being FE card up, intake down cancelling itself

but that would be something someone should test

[reef patrol]

The way I see it, you either push the GPU exhaust through the CPU - and do a top intake to mix that air with colder intake air.

Or you push the GPU air back down, which just makes the GPU boil and cause its fans to intake when outtaking, struggling.

[digital cliff]

I just don't have any top fans so problem solved

[reef patrol]

[analog sinew]

but where do you pour the water in then?

it makes a nice splishsplash

[digital cliff]

pressure washer my friend, pressure washer

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-unveils-rtx-5080-rog-astral-hatsune-miku-gpu-and-matching-hardware-series @umbral heron

[steady sail]

can i have that 5090 xD

[rough osprey]

no

[balmy vector]

finally, a card i can buy without regret

[wheat plume]

We need an AMD GPU for Teto now xxdd

She's already red so it works out very good!

[steady sail]

Time for linux

[wheat plume]

FEDORA
MY BELOVED 💜

Idk when the new installer will be released on stable branch
Maybe next release

[reef patrol]

You know you're a distro of the week addict, when you care about installers.

[wheat plume]

I haven't distro hopper very often since using Fedora
Just tried VanillaOS and CachyOS very briefly since

[steady sail]

[wheat plume]

Ah
Bazzite
Have fun!!! What desktop did you pick?

[steady sail]

Kde

[wheat plume]

Ah
I have gnome on my Bazzite install
Prefer it for gaming cause the camera movement feels stuttery on plasma for me despite the frame rate being well above 60

I do use a really high sensitivity so you may not notice anything wrong

[steady sail]

I use 1600 dpi

So if i notice it i just lower it

[ashen spindle]

so gaming on plasma is either broken on your install is broken?

[wheat plume]

not sure cause its happened both on my desktop that has NVIDIA and my Deck which is AMD

also, seems you can use remove instead of uninstall in rpm-ostree

[gusty kiln]

https://x.com/TechEpiphanyYT/status/1943921162016194666

TechEpiphany (@TechEpiphanyYT)

Good for AMD and co

X · Jul 12, 2025, 6:31 AM

If true, diamond rapid is getting gutted

[ashen spindle]

seems very unlikely

both the guy he quoted as well as TE are in the business of just spouting brainrot

DMR so far seems like one of the few good things going on at intel

[thick elk]

Pretty decent results, been naughty in my server case, to be fair does not really matter much in that one. Just have 2 intake in the front two intake in the top and one exhaust in the rear. Should probably flip that rear top fan around.
In any case it got more airflow than it needs anyway, as there was no point making the fans quieter when there are 3 hdd's in there.

[bright briar]

i hear mixed reviews about gigabyte tbh

[lunar elm]

u will hear mixed reviews about basically every brand

[bright briar]

thats true

[thick elk]

Motherboards wise mostly go for what has the looks / features you want.
Paying some attention to bad vrm's and such.

[bright briar]

https://a.co/d/bFbe7Ei

this mobo looks nice to me

[thick elk]

Definitely has some costs to it

[bright briar]

yeah

[thick elk]

For reference what I have right now: https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-X870-Legend-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B0DG4FK9HP
And no I did not pay that much for it, just spend way too much time writing a review

(honestly not the best review either)

[lunar elm]

I also have that mobo, generally looks alright

got it for a deal on amazon, sadly no local warranty but wtv, mobo should survive for VERY long

[lunar elm]

Nothing touches GiggleTroll’s 800 boards this gen for White aesthetics

Theirs is just too clean.

[pale sigil]

What's going on with intel

[ashen spindle]

context callum...context..

[sudden imp]

are you refering to the latest GN video?

[marsh quest]

just received my Maya X

feels so nice, a lot lighter than the superlight 2

oh yea this is 100% my new main mouse

so good

at least until my G-Wolves HTS Ultra comes in the mail

[hasty thunder]

being stuck at their 14nm+++∞ technology hurt them at the end. So when it was time to go lower they were stuck

they should have pushed R&D for 10 nm after their very first 14nm refresh, but instead they thought AMD could never even shake their throne. That's what happens when you think stagnation keeps you ahead of everyone else

when AMD hired Lisa Su as their CEO they ditched Bulldozer for Zen. Sure, Zen 1 and 2 were luke warm, but Zen 3 hit Intel where it hurts, but Intel isn't in a bad position at all rn. They're still ahead of AMD on the market. 54 to 46% rn, including servers

and considering the fact that Intel is eating away from nVidia rn on the GPU market is quite hilarious too. Everyone predicted that Intel would impact AMDs sales, but instead Intel's taking from nVidia

[ashen spindle]

thats just so much wrong on so many levels

the 14/10nm thing has nothing to do with amd, the cpu design team and fab teams are completely separate and the fab was not hitting goals nothing changes there with or without amd

they fucked up 10nm so much they ended up having to to 14+++ not because they wanted to and thought it was enough they had no other choice

they also didnt dutch bulldozer, they had to do a groundup new design but some of the biggest advantages they have now is lessons learned from bulldozer

just like how zen5 in biggest parts its a new design because sometimes you cant just iterate on things

and intel eating from nvidia? intel is eating from nobody lol

intel volumes are tiny in gpu space

[steady sail]

after like 2-3 hours of shit on linux bc i wanted to play a game that is "running on linux natively" cant even start i might just go back to windoge man

[ashen spindle]

yeah sadly thats still happening too much

[steady sail]

yeah linux is not for me

[ashen spindle]

theres probably some reasonable explanation for it that makes sense or its some rare cases, but thats still frustrating when you just want to game

[steady sail]

i guess a fresh windoge install would just work better for me anyway it was a good try on linux

[crimson wigeon]

What game?

[steady sail]

i tried osu! it was alright but not great, stellar blade, and one more but idk anymore as i tried more but nothing worked or i just had less performance compared to windows

[crimson wigeon]

Well yeah if you have to run through compatibility layers there's always gonna be some overhead, unfortunately..

[steady sail]

and some native linux games doesnt even started soo

too much thinkering with it, im too dumb for it

[crimson wigeon]

Native games are a more mixed bag, if done well they are great. But if poorly done by devs who don't even test it's a disaster and you're better off just running the Windows version

[steady sail]

i had like 25 less FPS in Stellar Blade on the same setting compared to windows

[crimson wigeon]

Ow

[leaden kiln]

lost the bezel for my cmf watch pro 2 today out with my friends

awesome

[ashen spindle]

https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2025/07/intel-bombshell-chipmaker-will-lay-off-2400-oregon-workers.html @fickle ore look private equity making stock go up maybe and just killing the company in the meant time 😛

[rough osprey]

will we get next gen ryzen this year

[ashen spindle]

no

[fickle ore]

it seems weird Trump isnt more concerned about Intel doing badly

Hes all on made in america

[ashen spindle]

he has no clue about things

[ashen spindle]

timeline atm is roughly: zen6 server maybe end-end of this year for partners but more likely early next year, mobile maybe early-mid next year and desktop late next year

[fickle ore]

Didnt they even pull back on CHIPS act for fabs thats just stupid

[rough osprey]

man i need 11800x3d

[ashen spindle]

ofc because despite him starting it, bidens name was on it so he had to act like it was all bad

[fickle ore]

Yeah just wow

Does he even understand how long it will take to become leading advanced semi fab

NO

[ashen spindle]

ofc not thats why tsmc was dancing on his nose with the arizone fab xD

[fickle ore]

Yeah wow just wow

I can not not be in Intel due to world politics, but wow trump sux

He needs more bigmac

[tribal dirge]

yeah doesn't intel own like the only silicon fabs here in America with the latest and greatest High-NA EUV lithography machines from ASML?

iirc Intel was even the first ones to get one.

before TSMC

[ashen spindle]

yes but high na is still research phase for nodes so thats not relevant for current or immediate future nodes

[tribal dirge]

yeah Intel is really banking on the success of their RibbonFET tech

[ashen spindle]

like 27 is the start of that if they do use it on 14A and dont push it to a later node

[tribal dirge]

if RibbonFET fails then it might be the end for Intel

[ashen spindle]

everyone moves to stacked FETs thats happening currently on all 3 fabs

backside power is what they push harder and the bigger issue is making it work with outside customers

[tribal dirge]

yeah, PowerVIA

[split whale]

yall how i make a macro that clicks the same button over and over when i hold it?

[pale sigil]

Can't you just hold the key?

[split whale]

Nah i mean like in game it just presses it

[pale sigil]

If not there's no proper macro support yet, you'll need third software software or wootomation https://wooting.io/wootomation

However we stopped working on wootomation.

[somber coral]

yo is asus tuf 7900xtx+400 worth for my pny oc no rgb 5080 do you think?

[fair gull]

depends on the games you play

in 1% lows its pretty close if i recall right and most games its close in general

res also is important ofc

[ashen spindle]

are you just swapping gpus again for fun or whats the idea

[somber coral]

i literally only play valorant and marvel rivals so i have come to the realization i would rather buy 2 ulxs with the extra cash then have a 5080

[somber coral]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh basically

[ashen spindle]

keep your stuff and then just dont touch it for like a year at least for when new stuff comes out this back and forth makes no sense

[fair gull]

you play 2 games... that arent all too demanding

[somber coral]

idk ive never been able to stick with the same things for a while it gets like . . . boring

[fair gull]

and want to think about swapping to a marginally better gpu

[somber coral]

apart from wooting ts is great :D

[ashen spindle]

then spend time overclocking it or smth

[somber coral]

no i just dont need a 5080

so id rather have a 9070xt and like 600$ or 7900xtx and 400

[ashen spindle]

then get the 9070xt

[somber coral]

yeah im tryna find someone whos willing to do 9070xt + 600$

[ashen spindle]

dont think anyone would do that

[steady sail]

or just sell the whole 5080

[somber coral]

yeah but then i gotta buy another gpu and it ends up being worse then just trading

[ashen spindle]

marvel rivals is quite demanding in comparison

[fair gull]

is it?

[somber coral]

i still cant hit 360 on lowest settings lol

[ashen spindle]

thats on a 5080 at 1440p

[steady sail]

bc trading isnt catchy ?

[ashen spindle]

rivals is quite gpu intense relatively to other esports shooters

[somber coral]

?

[ashen spindle]

sell the 5080 then look for used 9070xt if you want that and just buy it on ebay

[bright briar]

didnt you already have a 9070xt before upgrading to 5080?

[somber coral]

nope borrowed my brothers

before i built his pc

[unkempt lake]

WATHAN NO

@somber coral BAD

[somber coral]

ok chill

[unkempt lake]

STOP DOING DUMB THINGS

[somber coral]

mmm no

[trim crane]

Me and 2 other friends will have 9800X3D and 9070 XT based systems haha

brothers in arms

[pale sigil]

Buy me one

[trim crane]

erm

[balmy vector]

me too

[pale sigil]

They have been close to MSRP recently in the UK

Not just the normal ones either 👀

But I can't justify matching a 9070xt with a 5600x (my current GPU is a 3080)

[sudden imp]

cries in tariffs

[ashen spindle]

well the good part about tarrifs is that it makes the dollar weaker so we get cheaper cards so thanks for taking one for the team

[sudden imp]

no problem!

we can't stop winning thats all guys!

[abstract shell]

wtf

competitive game btw

[ashen spindle]

I mena its fine, if people want more you can do 1080p or do settings downa bit

more fps are fine but its not like games are unplayable if they dont have >200fps

[abstract shell]

bit of a meme when current esports meta is like 500hz monitors

[pale sigil]

....

[ashen spindle]

the most important part of any esports is that it is viewable so if this game needs to be heavier to run nicely thats a good tradeoff

dont get me wrong I'd love if it and any other game ran better but its not a necessity to be at 500fps to be an esports title

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle are NAS drives really required for 24/7 use? My current ones are enterprise ones I think and they are over 10 years old.

[ashen spindle]

idk depends on what workload you throw at them and how relaible they are

[pale sigil]

Plex/files/sync

My doorbell and camera save clips but not constant recordings

They are 7200 too ATM

[ashen spindle]

idk not really something I look at

[pale sigil]

Hmm

The difference is just so much

[ashen spindle]

would probably look at how many drive writes per day its rated for, how much you will use it etc.

[pale sigil]

£130 Vs £180

[ashen spindle]

look at warranty, if you run it in raid I suppose it would just be annoying but not losing data

[pale sigil]

£200 for 7200 which is nuts

[pale sigil]

Raid would be too expensive haha

The way I'm doing it ATM is important data is copied on all drives.

Automatically daily

[ashen spindle]

well if its more convenience and not needed data check for warranty and get one you can replace if it dies in the enxt 5 years maybe lol

[pale sigil]

And sensitive info is encrypted and pushed to gdrive.

[pale sigil]

Hmm maybe, the heavy storage would mainly be for media so it's not really bad to lose it.

[ashen spindle]

also check used server hardware, if you can get it cheap enough might be worth it even if it wont last as long

[pale sigil]

I've only had this server for 2 months and one drive is close haha (just media, 60gb of it is Immich though)

[pale sigil]

I was thinking about that ye, I asked cop about it.

[vagrant pagoda]

ive used consumer drives for 20+ years and still have single diget failures out of 100s

[pale sigil]

On your Nas/server?

Speed is poop but I'm putting a 2tb SSD in there for that.

If I can get consumer drives I would consider doing 4x4tb in raid.

[trim crane]

waiting for 1440p 720Hz QD-EL displays, and using CRT OLED reshade filters

[pale sigil]

Or 2x6tb

I also kinda wanna avoid Seagate haha

[trim crane]

whys that?

[pale sigil]

NGL this is one thing I missed about my old old job

[steel current]

seagate more like oceangate

[pale sigil]

One time I took home like 10 HDDs lol

Damn that's cheap

It's a lottery though

[trim crane]

but whats wrong w/ seagate?

[pale sigil]

Everything

[vagrant pagoda]

used is sketch unless you have a +2 parity

[trim crane]

i don't really know much about HDDs so if you could tell me that would be nice

[pale sigil]

They have the highest failure rate

[steel current]

i havent had that many drives but one of the only 2 failures i had was a seagate

[pale sigil]

A laughable amount

Everyone and their grandma has had a Seagate fail.

At least in my experience

[trim crane]

damn

[pale sigil]

I've never had any HDD fail in my entire life unless it was Seagate and when at my job it was always Seagate drives we had to replace.

Always Seagate

[vagrant pagoda]

seagate and toshiba have higher rates than others, but they also use more seagates becuase of cost

[trim crane]

if you could choose, what brand and spec for your HDD

[pale sigil]

My Toshiba is going strong 10+ years

[vagrant pagoda]

so if you can account for failures, seagate is worth it

[pale sigil]

But it's an enterprise one

[pale sigil]

WD

I was going to say Toshiba from experience but maybe not hahaha

[steel current]

the other failure i had was a wd...

[vagrant pagoda]

my server ius currently all shucked wd and clearance wd ssds from walmart

[trim crane]

glad you had a good toshiba tho

[vagrant pagoda]

XD

[pale sigil]

I would hope so as they cost me a lot

Back then 7200rpm was expensive af

I say 10+ years because idk if it was 2013-2015 I bought them.

My Nas was a 2012 model but I'm pretty sure I got it in 2013 haha

Tbh I might even consider just getting an 8tb as I don't really need to raid my media since I don't care if I lose it.

[vagrant pagoda]

best nas is your old gaming pc

[pale sigil]

My Plex server is just for me, family and friends and I have gigabit anyway.

[vagrant pagoda]

XD

[pale sigil]

XD

[pale sigil]

I bought my cousin's I7 7700 for £50 and had spare parts, I need to replace my NAS as it died.

Although I had to upgrade the ram as I kept running out (16gb(

[vagrant pagoda]

mine is 4790k +32gb of ddr3

good times

[pale sigil]

It's 39gb ATM

Since I'm not too bothered about mismatching ram haha

The 2.5gb PCIe never gets used though haha, probably a waste of money but it wasn't much and I'm putting an SSD in there soon so it'll get used 👀

[plush stirrup]

Watch out for SMR drives in that case 😛

[pale sigil]

Aren't they slow though

Even with raid

[vagrant pagoda]

you can push gbit with mech

[pale sigil]

🐌

[vagrant pagoda]

gbit isnt fast

[pale sigil]

It's so fun transferring to an Ssd over 2.5gb ha

[pale sigil]

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/omw-slow-on-my-way-cute-monsters-inc-gif-17521429

[vagrant pagoda]

most single mechs can do gbit sequential

even 2.5 isnt outside of mech

[pale sigil]

I'm just saying I don't really utilise the 2.5gb

[vagrant pagoda]

now in raid youre lucky to get 50-100mega a drive

[plush stirrup]

SMR is slow yes, there's reasons you don't want them in raid

[pine valley]

Hey, im trying wootomation, but it doesnt work, i set mouse buttons and keys, bbut nothing happens when i hit the trigger key, im trying it for marvel rivals, but nothing happens 😦

[pale sigil]

I did manage to push it though

I suspect zfs kicked in?

[pale sigil]

The rivals anti cheat

It blocks everything it can.

Even screenshot tools

[pine valley]

okay ! my mouse macros seem to be working, so i will have to use that 😕

[pale sigil]

It doesn't block hardware macros though

Because the hardware is sending a signal whereas this software has to run over.

[vagrant pagoda]

how many drives ?

[pine valley]

i understand, thank you, will keep trying the hardware route

[pale sigil]

2x2tb 7200rpm
1x265gb SSD for TrueNAS
1x2TB SSD soon.

[limpid citrus]

@static needle what’s ur wooting settings I’m a fan nice NAL win btw

[abstract shell]

https://prosettings.net/players/spoit/