🔌│tech

[reef patrol]

The slow descent into madness.

[vagrant pagoda]

lol

[fair gull]

mansen not at work

[reef patrol]

Mansen (doesn't work), error, error, please reboot and reinstall

[fair gull]

ok who wants to be installed as the new mansen

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

ok you now get all the stale bread

[umbral heron]

hell yeah!
Garlic bread time

[fair gull]

youre a duck you cant use kitchen stuff

you get fed for the christmas dinner

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/it-has-been-decided-the-league-candle-gif-14471325

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/marin-kitagawa-blush-gif-7046106625604767584

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-birthday-cake-ducks-birthday-2year-old-sweeping-gif-16250132

[umbral heron]

j-just... be gentle

[marsh glade]

Congrats Cals on duck 2!

[umbral heron]

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-and-easy-tyler-kijac-ultimate-cowboy-showdown-slow-and-careful-gentle-gif-21270334

[marsh glade]

Calducken

Like a Turducken but different

[reef patrol]

[umbral heron]

[umbral heron]

https://www.euractiv.com/section/tech/news/scoop-commission-eyes-ditching-microsoft-azure-for-frances-ovhcloud-over-digital-sovereignty-fears/

[marsh glade]

https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/turducken-a-brief-history-of-the-most-complicated-thanksgiving-recipe/

I once grilled a quail stuffed in a turkey stuffed in a pig, that was fun

[umbral heron]

[vagrant pagoda]

just need a goose

[umbral heron]

Although wait, I remember grandma doing chicken stuffed inside a turkey once

[analog sinew]

if it doesnt end at camel are you even cooking

[marsh glade]

Whole hog is already big enough, good gravy

[analog sinew]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_stuffed_camel

[reef patrol]

Jeeeesus. It's still doing the retropi install. Someone needs to put a warning label on this thing.

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLZlPykou_w
Whole Aligator is pretty great too

[vagrant pagoda]

about the same size but not as easy to stuff

plus you need a 30 foot grill

then why no rino

[sudden imp]

Endangered

[umbral heron]

Ah, Louisiana, I thought Florida
Ah, I knew it's Florida Stupid tags YT

[lunar elm]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-7-265kf-gets-another-price-cut-now-starting-at-229-40-vs-launch-price like damn

[fair gull]

tmw you try to claw back market share

[halcyon moss]

It's not a terrible cpu

[sudden imp]

This is great for budget builders right now

[ashen spindle]

Yeah if you are on budget and know you won’t upgrade or need more work specific things that aren’t avx512 it’s a great deal

Classic, Intel making the budget deals xD

[reef patrol]

I need some ELI5 here. Hos the fuck do I access another local users home folder, so I can copy over files from one to another? Google has been completely useless.

Tried changing the main group of the new user to that of the old one in advanced user settings and relogged. But still getting permission denied.

[sudden imp]

Mansen what are you doing

[fair gull]

sudo cp -R /home/user1 /home/user2

and then just chown the data to the right user

but idk if that might not also break smth

prob will

[reef patrol]

I just need to copy shit and then delete the old user.

[umbral heron]

Then you can rename your folder to new user and delete the other one
And chown -R after that

[fair gull]

oh smart cals

[reef patrol]

wat

I don't have permission to do shit to the old users folder.

[fair gull]

sudo

[reef patrol]

If I had, I'd just open and copy over shit

I'm not in the terminal. I'm using the explorer. Again. Explain this like I'm a fucking baby.

In Windows I can just take over the entire folder by force with NTFS permission system.

Alternatively are there folders all users have access to? I just need to copy some fucking files here.

[umbral heron]

you are user1, want to be user2
rm /home/user2 to clean folder
mv /home/user1 /home/user2 to change name
chown -R user2 /home/user2/ to fix permissions
Log out, login as user2 and delete user1

[reef patrol]

I don't want to be any user. I just need to copy some dang files from somewhere in one users home folder to the other.

Whether by accessing their home folder or putting the files somewhere both users normally access.

I don't Linux.

Too many damn weird folders in the file system to know what's shared.

I'm about to throw shit in the sys folder or tmp to see what's accessible ngl

[umbral heron]

Aite - run sudo thunar in command line and you'll have file manager with sudo permissions, then you can do whatever

[fair gull]

mansen still has to fix the perms

not to mention if he needs terminal to run the explorer as sudo why not copy and chown then

or rename and chown

[umbral heron]

Yup
But that should be possible with context menu afaik

[reef patrol]

Because some of us don't breathe terminal fumes for a living.

[fair gull]

its 1 command you did now vs 2

[ashen spindle]

GUI is inherently less complicated for people that are used to using GUI workflows even if it is a higher amount of steps to do

[reef patrol]

Imagine needing three people to tell me terminal commands to do something an end user would consider something you'd just be able to do with simple drag and drop.

[fair gull]

sudo cp -R /home/oldUser /home/newUser
sudo chown -R newUser /home/newUser

vs

sudo thunar

• all the gui clicking

[reef patrol]

Makes me wish for a nuclear winter. Partitioning the whole damn file system into user specific permission areas. Just give me standard C:/whatever any day.

Going to be slightly difficult on a Raspberry Pi

[crimson wigeon]

But you can do that, just make a /whatever that all users can read and write to, done

[reef patrol]

But where? Where in the file system can I "just create a folder"

[crimson wigeon]

Anywhere you find it most convenient

[fair gull]

i dont think that would fix it since copying with the old user would keep the file perms intact

so mansen would be back to the same issue

[reef patrol]

Cause the root of the file system sure doesn't seem to let me without fiddling with root, and there's no obvious SHARED folder here.

[crimson wigeon]

So you make one!

[umbral heron]

Yours is in /home/your_user by default
And then anywhere you give yourself permissions to with chown

[crimson wigeon]

Just like Windows does not have such a directory by default

[reef patrol]

Ny home isn't shared. I need Swiss, neutral ground here.

[fair gull]

yes but windows just plops the first user into the admin group and plops up a dialog that you can do whatever you want by clicking yes

[reef patrol]

Anyway... Back to trying to compile an emulator

[fair gull]

it just hides all this permission stuff from admin users

[crimson wigeon]

So sudo mkdir /stuff4all chmod 777 /stuff4all now you have a /stuff4all all users can muck around in

[umbral heron]

Then this, yeah
I have other SSDs mounted like that in /data0, /data1 etc.

[fair gull]

thats 2 separate commands takyon in 2 separate inline code blocks

[reef patrol]

Sigh... Compile errors with no obvious cause and no troubleshooting on the GitHub.

It's going to be a long weekend.

It worked earlier. Now it doesn't.

[umbral heron]

Mac emulation
So not really
There's QEMU way, but I guess native ARM emulator will be better here

[reef patrol]

Hard to do anything wrong here. At a loss.

Breaks at the make command.

[umbral heron]

There are pre-compiled AppImages for AArch64 https://github.com/Korkman/macemu-appimage-builder/releases/download/continuous/SheepShaver-aarch64.AppImage

[crimson wigeon]

Ah, good old using make without -j so it does only one job at a time, because who needs to make use of all the CPU cores

[reef patrol]

[umbral heron]

Member when I compiled wine without -j

[reef patrol]

I hate this so much. It worked like a charm an hour ago. Got Sheepshaver running and all. Had to terminate it when it froze, then the executable wouldn't run anymore.

So now I'm starting over and keeping a backup executable, except now it won't compile. Not on the old user, not on a new, fresh one.

[umbral heron]

Try AppImage

[reef patrol]

Not a clue

[crimson wigeon]

That error is a weird one, recommend doing a apt update and apt full-upgrade first

[umbral heron]

Download from link and just double-click, it'll run on about any Linux system

If it doesn't check if you have FUSE package installed

[reef patrol]

Sheepshaver needs an RPI5 specific compile according to the author.

I'm just following caveman instructions here. Using a Debian based SBC with an RPI installer.

Dunno, don't care. I just want this shit to work already. Reinstalling the OS.

[fair gull]

tmw you reinstall the os instead of trying to doubleclick a file

[reef patrol]

This OS serves one purpose. To launch a thing I can't compile on it all of a sudden. It worked before, so were clearing the slate.

Just try thing XYZ. Or just start over and go do something more productive instead of troubleshooting something that worked an hour ago on a clean install.

This is not a "Gee I'm having fun discovering this this new OS and environment" moment. This is a JUST WORK ALREADY moment.

[fair gull]

thats not how linux stuff works though

[reef patrol]

Except it did just work an hour ago

[fair gull]

you said it broke and didnt work anymore

[reef patrol]

So instead of throwing shit at the wall to see what suddenly broke, I'll just start over and try from scratch.

And then make backups this time of executables.

Tine investment difference seems pretty cut and dry

That's what I already tried though.

[crimson wigeon]

The error comes from a system library (!) which means either a packager fucked up, or the system was partially updated

[reef patrol]

Once this damn emulator is compiled, I'll happily take suggestions on RPI friendly distros that literally only has to serve one purpose - to launch straight into Sheepshaver and never do anything else ever again.

[lyric hatch]

I got no idea but Gemini Pro says

[crimson wigeon]

It was missing XIQueryVersion, not XQueryVersion.. AI hallucinations...

[umbral heron]

I don't really see why AppImage wouldn't work though
The only thing would be RPi5's GPU, but it looks like it uses the same hardware acceleration for all of them, so

[lyric hatch]

AI is never wrong 🤖

[reef patrol]

Just following instructions. There is no RPI5 binary available and According to the developer of Sheepshaver I need to compile it myself for the RPI5, so that's what I'm doing for now.

I need a proof of concept, so I can move on to the rest of this project.

Finesse can happen later.

Also I kind of want my desk back.

[umbral heron]

Just try running it
Maybe developer doesn't know about this one, because it's community build

[reef patrol]

Tell you what. If this doesn't work, I'll try whatever that is

[umbral heron]

Have fun, I go to work

[reef patrol]

Once I dig out a second mouse, so I can have both PCs plugged in at the same time. Getting tiresome to swap out cables

Aaand pesto!

[marsh glade]

I'd like carbonara please

[reef patrol]

I don't know why, I don't know how. But a clean slate worked immediately.

And this time we're backing this fucker up in a vault

Now for the fun, janky part of using a PC PSU to power the iPad LCD and set up overscan and autoboot.

[reef patrol]

Oh thank god. Even audio works - That has apparently been a major hurdle with RPI5 previously.
Playing a bit of Simcity 2000 on the living room TV with a cat observing from the couch. 😄

[jaunty rose]

5060’s now in stock at my walmart, 5070’s were not sold since last time I was here I assume

[sudden imp]

Walmart stock means shit ain’t selling

[jaunty rose]

Thats awesome

No switch 2’s here ;(

Only games

Was hoping theyd have the switch 2 demo here atleast

But they dont

[reef patrol]

[vagrant pagoda]

what do you expect from a demo, just take a swtich, and bring it closer to your eyes

[trail plinth]

how can i use my wooting on ps5?

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa5qVMNfQbU

[jaunty rose]

Probably some mario kart world Idunno lol

[reef patrol]

Plug it into a PC to set it up, and remember to disable nKRO.

[trail plinth]

i just do it

[trail plinth]

i ve done it

but it doesnt work

[reef patrol]

It doesn't type when you're on the dashboard?

Not all games support keyboards mind. That's not something the keyboard controls.

[trail plinth]

let me see

[trail plinth]

it doesnt

[reef patrol]

Then you need to double check that you actually disabled nKRO and saved your settings on the keyboard.

I assume you're plugging it directly into the playstation using the included USB cable?

[marsh glade]

You have to enable the disable

Bit wonky phrasing, yea..

[trail plinth]

ohhhh

[reef patrol]

[trail plinth]

thks

[marsh glade]

No problem, glad we sorted it

Game on

[pale sigil]

My friend is hyper stressing about 7800x3d Vs 9800x3d and can't decide if it's worth €115 euro more even with research.

Do you think it's worth it for CPU based games especially? @ashen spindle

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCOJ3iFCWcU
HUB to the rescue? do a quick skim

[marsh glade]

If they're stressed about it, that means it's a stretch financially, which means it is equivocally NOT worth it

[umbral heron]

#🎮│game message
Big boost in Factorio
Not so much in other CPU games

[pale sigil]

It's not about being able to afford it

He put this money aside forever ago, it's more if it's worth it or not.

He's very logical vs wasting money

[pale sigil]

He's seen it, just it doesn't have all games.

[reef patrol]

Of course not, but it gives you a nice average expectation.

[pale sigil]

I think some games he saw up to 30%

[reef patrol]

Factorio is a HIGHLY optimized game, and makes for a poor comparison, if that's not one of the specific games he plays.

[umbral heron]

I noticed almost no difference between jumping up to 9xxx in gaming honestly

[pale sigil]

I would just get a 9800x3d if it was a complete new build but probably 7800x3d if I was upgrading.

[sudden imp]

^^

[ashen spindle]

Grab the 7800x3d with that price difference and then upgrade to zen6 next year or whenever

Unless he’s like playing mmos or games like helldivers

Then again it’s also much much faster in stuff like web browsing etc.

So depends on what games he plays

If it’s Minecraft absolutely go with the 9800x3d

Also factorio is super misleading because it depends on map size, at bigger map sizes that exceed cache it no longer gives that benefit

[reef patrol]

Map..sizes?

Factorio is like Minecraft. It keeps generating until it reaches the forbidden lands.

[umbral heron]

On the benchmark I run map is bigger than cache
And yeah, there's still benefit to be had, up to 50% in edge cases

[ashen spindle]

Idk what the term is but I know some people getting annoyed because after some time the result is very different hence if you look at some other benchmarks maps it’s not the same order and more memory latency bound than 1T limited

[astral haven]

Better term would be save size

[vagrant pagoda]

it helps at any mapsize with mods

[ashen spindle]

Whatever it is the point is it’s not the same gain consistently that you see in reviews

(Obviously doesn’t make it a bad cpu just misrepresented a bit)

[unkempt lake]

For rhis little more i'd say its worth

[unkempt lake]

Also depends on resplution

I can tell you at my res my 7800x3d is barely used unless i play helldivers or cyberpunk with max crowd densities

[reef patrol]

Same. Feels like my 3080 is a much more obvious bottleneck in any regular game.

[ashen spindle]

Well it doesn’t really depend on resolution with games like mmos or similar

And 115€ isn’t a little more that’s like 30% more

[unkempt lake]

Considering how long he'd realistically keep it and how much he's willing to spend already it's not much

[marsh glade]

Disagree

[ashen spindle]

Given that he can just upgrade to zen6 when that’s out for probably just a bit more than what he’d be saving today that would seem much more sensible

[marsh glade]

30% higher cost on your second most expensive component for marginal games in certain situations just ain't it

*gains not games

[unkempt lake]

Fair enough but dude's stressing about if he needs it or not for his use case so i assume he does do cpu intensive shit

But i do get what you mean, upgrading from a 9700k to a 7800x3d at 5120x1440 with my 7900xtx was nice but a ton of games just didn't really benefit

[ashen spindle]

No pleasant said the guy is clearly concerned about it being a logical upgrade not about it absolutely being fitting for his workload

[unkempt lake]

It really depends on use case more than antthing

[unkempt lake]

Oh i misread then

[ashen spindle]

^

[pale sigil]

My friend would use this CPU for years

Not upgrade again soon

He's on a 3600 ATM lol

[unkempt lake]

Aliexpress 5700x3d

[pale sigil]

They don't really sell them anymore

[unkempt lake]

Rip

[pale sigil]

Actually

[ashen spindle]

if he doesnt plan to upgrade again 9800x3d because its better for day to day stuff like web browsing

[pale sigil]

He said how is it better for browser's lol

And how do you measure that

[ashen spindle]

Anything JavaScript loads much faster so websites are just nicer to use and everything

There’s some web browser benchmarks like speedometer

[unkempt lake]

Not like the 7800x3d loads shit slowly tho

[ashen spindle]

Nobody said that

[unkempt lake]

I'd argue it's negligible in real world use

In terms of gain

[ashen spindle]

It’s a much more appreciable quality of life gain over some few fps in some games that don’t see much

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZT7yHVgcOo
Gaming 🤯

[reef patrol]

Excellent. I can start calling bad players bots now and mean it.

[marsh glade]

[umbral heron]

Is Hiby R4 good?
I like my Echo Mini, but it's so bad to use with big library

[tulip jasper]

that’s what i’m saying!!!

finally someone understands my fear

[analog sinew]

many such cases

[ashen spindle]

I just ran the ffxiv benchmark again bc I wanted to tweak something on my memory but stock its suddenly 10% faster lol

so that means even in the gpu limited bench I'm now 25% ahead of the 7800x3d when I had that lololol

[wheat plume]

Just saw someone say that the Framework Laptop 12 is too expensive and its real cost should be about 250 dollars..bruh wtf?! you cant get a good laptop for that price

[nimble arch]

Well, if you look on Amazon

Insert that one LTT video about the three popular laptops on Amazon

[ashen spindle]

idk about 250 but yes its quite overpriced

[wheat plume]

overpriced sure, no way in hell can you get a laptop that even gets close for 250

[ashen spindle]

I mean

60 percent of the SRGB color space
its really bad in some parts lol

[wheat plume]

True

[ashen spindle]

you can get an older mac book air for cheaper which will end up faster and actually a good experience of a laptop

[nimble arch]

A MacBook is probably always a better investment unless you’re gaming IMHO

[ashen spindle]

its really not but fw is just really bad build quality and low value

like shit like this doesnt make for great experiences with frameworks lol

[eternal jacinth]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTj7a23mo/

This has triggered me more than anything. Dude just said the new overpriced AIO he just bought is better cooling than the mineral water in his old pc lol

[ashen spindle]

tiktok
yeah that already means you shouldnt expect quality

[eternal jacinth]

I know but in the video he said he did his “research” and vast majority of the things he said is wrong lol.. imagine being rich like him and clueless with your purchases.

[sudden imp]

I mean sometimes it’s six one half dozen the other

Depending on the setup

[analog sinew]

or hes just being a shill :o

[reef patrol]

Just ignorant and sponsored.

[astral haven]

Mineral cooling can be pretty bad for core temps. actively pumping water around will allow the core temps to be lower

[bright briar]

little kids make stupid people on the internet famous all the time

hes the new ali-a

[reef patrol]

Proof of concept proven. Now for 3D printing hell

[tulip jasper]

hey now, let’s not give all the credit to kids, there’s millions of stupid adults as well 😌

trust me, i’m one of them

[pale sigil]

Neat, Linus just announced another scrap yard wars.

[dull hollow]

joining x3d users

https://tenor.com/view/toyota-yaris-yaris-meme-whys-this-dealer-meme-whys-this-dealer-i-need-my-things-gif-14472248150583635823

[dull hollow]

@magic minnow

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/toyota-yaris-yaris-meme-whys-this-dealer-meme-whys-this-dealer-i-need-my-things-gif-14472248150583635823

[nimble arch]

[timber pollen]

Yo can someone tell me if I’m fucked or not? Keyboard was updating and during the flashing to keyboard firmware bit I bluescreened and the keyboard won’t light up and the keys do nothing it’s bricked

[fair gull]

@sudden imp @frozen ingot @exotic plinth since you 3 either posted it or were worried heres a news source confirming its its mostly old data

https://www.heise.de/en/news/16-billion-credentials-No-new-leak-lots-of-old-data-10453869.html

[sudden imp]

Thanks, I thought it was fear mongering.

[fair gull]

i mean it partly was i guess

you should still not reuse passwords and such

[analog sinew]

https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-is-a-religion-neuroscientists-find-it-triggers-the-same-reaction-in-your-brain-2011-5 finally it makes sense

[nimble arch]

Article from 2011

[analog sinew]

it has only gotten worse since

[distant tapir]

furrfu

[pale sigil]

Rate my raspberry pi setup (I bought a new short cable because my router is powering my pi)

[reef patrol]

What's that big ole tumor on the side?

Some kind of USB soundcard?

[pale sigil]

ZigBee network dongle, all my smart devices connect to it and I control them via home assistant

What's coming off it is an antenna

[reef patrol]

Aha

They can't connect directly to wifi?

[fair gull]

they talk low power bluetooth i think

[reef patrol]

But... zhe Raspberry has zhe bootoof too? Do they speak some weird non-standard protocol language to be extra spesjul? 😄

[fair gull]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Low_Energy

idk if normal adapters can talk BLE

[reef patrol]

RPI5 can at least. Not sure about the 4b

Sure can.

[fair gull]

then /shrug

maybe not enough antenna or such

[reef patrol]

But I suppose putting a big antenna on it might help with reach 😄

[pale sigil]

People who use ZigBee are doing it to avoid WiFi

It's a different more private method and less stress on the router, it's also superior in a lot of ways.

A lot of ZigBee devices act as repeaters

And it's a standard so it won't just work with normal Bluetooth no

[rough osprey]

thread my goat

[reef patrol]

Hmm... does indeed look like "Zigbee" uses some weird proprietary standard. But they also offer a "Zigbee Direct" protocol that is just BLE. Very confusing. Glad I don't have any IOT 😄

[pale sigil]

Atm I have 19 devices on ZigBee and like 6 on WiFi.

[rough osprey]

sold all my zigbee stuff lol

[pale sigil]

I wanted to move away from WiFi entirely, it pissed me off and I hate how they require the internet a lot of the time.

Out of the 6 WiFi devices I only really use 3 which 2 are being replaced with ZigBee when my mum can help.

[rough osprey]

in the end its all 2.4ghz

[pale sigil]

Btw @reef patrol hue use ZigBee

And IKEA stuff

[pale sigil]

Ye but not my WiFi at least

😅

And offline entirely

[reef patrol]

Don't really use any iot here. Only thing that isn't cabled is our WiFi radio and the TV over WiFi

[rough osprey]

kinda sad that hue doesnt wanna use thread / matter directly

only from the bridge to other devices

[halcyon moss]

No, they talk zigbee

[rough osprey]

having to use an extra device sucks imo

[halcyon moss]

Rather have home assistant with a zigbee dongle than it making my wifi bad / unsafe

[rough osprey]

homepod mini connecting to devices with thread

[halcyon moss]

Sorry, I'm not apple impaired

[rough osprey]

its not an apple thing

just an example

[fair gull]

oh

i thought its built ontop of BLE or such

[halcyon moss]

A mesh network

I think zigbee has been around quite a bit longer that ble

[halcyon moss]

I know, thread is the future. But that future is absolutely not here yet. Still need some sort of router thingy. It can be a home pod, Google pod or many other options..

For now though, zigbee works great. And with home. Assistant connecting it all is fairly simple

[rough osprey]

ye kinda not big enough yet but just using homepod mini instead of homepod mini + hue bridge atleast made my setup simpler and saves a bit of energy

[vagrant pagoda]

why zigbee over zwave?

2.4 vs 900 for low bandwidth seems like a no brainer

[halcyon moss]

Price and availability really.. There so much more zwave stuff

Zwave is often said to be more stable

But my zigbee network is fine as well

[wheat plume]

oooo is there a way to get this in every distro????

but thats tricky and if you mess up the system wont boot :/

[wheat plume]

idk how tf you can call this intuitive...

[crimson wigeon]

Or you can use a goooey utility like gnome-disks

[wheat plume]

and finding out what options you need

[vagrant pagoda]

you dont have to use uuid though

[thick elk]

I wouldn't call the fstab file intuitive but it is pretty alright toe work with

[ashen spindle]

Seems like the most basic Linux thing, text file that tells you where to find more info and then a list of configurations

[wheat plume]

what is the spacing about? Do I have to space my lines like that also?

[vagrant pagoda]

minium of one space or tab

no limit on them, but you need atleast one space between the parts

[wheat plume]

o

[vagrant pagoda]

you need atleast one

[wheat plume]

I will need to do this once I get my new desktop in

cause I ordered one SSD with it and Imma use the same SSD from my previous desktop so I will have 2TB storage

[thick elk]

You may need some options though depending on what you mount. sshfs needs quite a few at least

[wheat plume]

Will need to automount that second SSD but it should be easy cause its exFAT format, right?

[thick elk]

True

[wheat plume]

cause I was using it while dual booting and exFAT was a file system both Windows and Linux can read

[thick elk]

Also commonly use nofail on secondary drives.

[wheat plume]

I might reformat it...if I can move everything off it first

but idk if ill have the space for that

dont you need to install other shit like fuse and some other package to get NTFS properly working on Linux?

[thick elk]

NTFS got better under windows

nowadays

Only problem it still suffers with is mounting read only if not shut down cleanly on the windows side.

True but still annoying to have to do manual intervention

[vagrant pagoda]

nothing to do with linux

windows dose ckdsk too

[thick elk]

Just mean it's relatively annoying in practice when using ntfs drives in dual boot.

True

I just accept it, and can access the windows drive from linux, used to have a ntfs drive shared between, but just decided to no longer let windows in.

and move it to ext4

[vagrant pagoda]

wsl making ext4 easy in windows

so just use a shared ext4

[thick elk]

Hmm good to know, to be fair, hardly ever use my windows install nowadays.

[vagrant pagoda]

ext is way better, windows is just built so hard on ntfs fucntions

[thick elk]

Also if you need, NTFS can be case-sensitive.

[vagrant pagoda]

ext3

ext4 was long long after nt

it might even have been ext2

porb 2

maybe 3

but like i said, wsl2 adds native ext4 to the windows kernel

[fair gull]

pretty sure windows never had any native support for any ext filesystem

no like in the kernel

im pretty sure since ancient times people on windows used ext2fsd

ill gladly take sources on that but afaik that was never a thing

[halcyon moss]

Oh my, that will break all kinds of shit

[thick elk]

It's a flag and I am sure it would break a lot of things, mostly used for wsl

[vagrant pagoda]

never seen ext but there was nfs

[wheat plume]

this app is a lifesaver for all the low res art I find :D

can go crazy with the scaling... xzd

[reef patrol]

Aka... GPU AI Upscaling.

[ashen spindle]

yup, its another day ending in y, lana talking about "this" and nobody knows what "this" is

[fair gull]

waifu2x but with less settings it seems

[wheat plume]

basically yeah xd

[reef patrol]

Nice and simple UI too. Mine's a lot more complex...which might be because it's used for deepfakes more than anything.

[fair gull]

all i need

[halcyon moss]

Is it actual Ai upscaling?

[reef patrol]

Uses image models, yes. Otherwise this part wouldn't be there, and you could just use a paint equivalent for shitty scaling 😄

[fair gull]

https://flathub.org/apps/io.gitlab.theevilskeleton.Upscaler

[ashen spindle]

no could just be different algos for different presets that arent using ai

[fair gull]

thats what lana used btw

[ashen spindle]

but the image only says upsacler so god knows what it does

[fair gull]

https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Upscaler

apparently is ai

[reef patrol]

Yarp

[fair gull]

given it uses ncnn

[wheat plume]

Does 60HE V2 fit into the same cases as v1 does?

so, in theory, if they release a V2 PCB on its own, I can simply just slot it into the Alumaze case?

o ook that would be good

why the toggle switches so long in iOS?!?! its odd looking

i want a segway....

ok ok, iOS only NOW allows you to make any music file into a ringtone?????

not my fault this time, you used Segway instead of segue

naht thats still the same topic as the first iOS one cause you interrupted by brining up segway

[halcyon moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-segway-fall-segways-gif-14168103

[frozen ingot]

phone people when the UI changes a dozen pixels from one version to the next

truly an innovative industry

[whole axle]

iOS 26 is the best iOS to date

Only 3 days with it

Straight peak

[sudden imp]

WHAT YOU USED TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SONG ON ITUNES

HOW DO I DO THIS WHEN IT UPDATES

[reef patrol]

Well duh? You used to buy and own music.

Just like an album or a DVD. Just also possible to buy single tracks.

[frozen ingot]

next thing you're gonna tell me I have to pay for movies too smh

[reef patrol]

[devout raptor]

why 26 when 18.5 latest

[ashen spindle]

because the new one is 26

[reef patrol]

Because they gave up on using version numbers over the year.

And Apple can't count either. So they're a year ahead.

[wheat plume]

if you hold down on a music file in the file manager it seems to have the option to use as ringtone now

[bright briar]

you can buy customize ringtones and message alerts for years

it would be around $1-$3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tZ31ksqwos

you can buy stuff like this lool

[wheat plume]

nah you need to use this version xd https://youtu.be/Mv7RNQtC2Ak

[bright briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aB-kof0HqE @unkempt lake

[bright briar]

oh hell naw

[sudden imp]

So if I like download a song or YouTube file song thing I can make it a ringtone?

[wheat plume]

yeh it seems that way :D

https://youtu.be/6A6n_3q9N4g

[rough osprey]

they now naming it after the year it will be most used in

[fair gull]

most used or released in

[rough osprey]

release is in 25

[fair gull]

then it aint making sense

[minor citrus]

Apple fiscal year start is also last sunday of september, so it is mostly in fiscal 2026 for them

[fair gull]

ah

that would make sense

ah yeah

[rough osprey]

got inspired by carmakers lol

[fair gull]

i mean if its aligned with the fiscal year for them it does make sense

[rough osprey]

they will not be the reason tho

[fair gull]

id assume macos and tvos will follow suite so its just easier to keep track

[rough osprey]

everything

[minor citrus]

they do, the question is if the devices will follow though

[fair gull]

i mean macbooks prob wont and imacs prob wont. they both already use years to specify further afaik

[rough osprey]

maybe iphoneee

[fair gull]

unless they wanna name the m chips in the future by year

iphones will prob switch yeah

just like samsung did

[rough osprey]

me still on iphone 15 when iphone 26 exists 😭

[fair gull]

smh

im still on windows 11 but i found out windows 2000 exists

like why didnt i get an upgrade option

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/coroca-keanu-reeves-gif-19058801

[crimson wigeon]

No one here can help you with that, only support can help you

[magic minnow]

https://x.com/pointcrow/status/1936459788218761726?

eric pointcrow (@PointCrow)

@MrBeast this you? are you going to say anything or just delete your tweet & profit off of stealing other creators work with your new viewstats AI slop tool?

X · Jun 21, 2025, 4:22 PM

[solemn ginkgo]

What a scam.

[crimson wigeon]

Hell yeah more AI slop

[ashen spindle]

mr shady stuff does shady studd? no way!

[unkempt lake]

So he uses ai thumbnail but then complains the other dude steals his ai thumbnails

[sudden imp]

Did he delete the tweet

[wheat plume]

$80 a month LOL WOW

sad thing is that they will have thousands, maybe 100,000's of people sign up for this

[sudden imp]

When I see AI on stuff I just tend to ignore it

It becomes more of a sign of greed and loss of human touch

I think most people feel the same way right now.

[wheat plume]

yeah for sure :/

its added to shit for no reason all over

[upper imp]

I still play THE FINALS even though they claim they use AI generated content during their development process...

[halcyon moss]

Ai generated stuff isn't bad, if used under proper supervision.

[bright briar]

Ai detected ^

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-t800-mão-cyborg-gif-21291571

[pale sigil]

Would you agree if said content was sold as skins XD

[analog sinew]

that is not that proper

but someone ai generating a rock texture whatever

[wheat plume]

wait wait, does Firefox remember the file location for when you download something per website?! cause I download from most websites it defaults to save in Downloads when the dialog folder opens but on NameMC when I download a player skin, it defaults to the Skins folder in my Pictures folder

[crimson wigeon]

Yes

[wheat plume]

Ok I love that

[old marlin]

Also sounds like it could be really annoying

[analog sinew]

you can like, turn it off

[vagrant pagoda]

only if you right click save

[wheat plume]

I really really need Android to have more volume steps

Music too quiet
I go up one step, music is too loud now

[rough patrol]

youtube music on desktop is almost the same except that its always too loud or off

[wheat plume]

On desktop I don't have the issue
Set YouTube Music volume to 100% and change the volume via my desktop volume which uses steps of 2%

gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys volume-step 2

If you use gnome desktop xd

[ashen spindle]

its mostly for weird markets like brazil with imports and such

[lyric hatch]

sounds like something OneUI already has

[wheat plume]

Ooo

[lunar elm]

agreed

but AI generated videos are genuinely getting out of hand with how real they look now

the only way u can pretty much tell if its AI is looking for excessive perfection and lighting on the face

[little silo]

what rank are you?

and also, their voice actors are ai

apparently

[magic minnow]

Did you get the twitch drops?

There’s a spear with a lemon on it

[unkempt shard]

wait there are twitch drops

[leaden kiln]

second smart watch now

[sharp badger]

I like the orange version of that but it falls short with not being ''smart'' enough for me

[magic minnow]

yeh

Lemon spear

[unkempt shard]

i need that

[sharp badger]

Can get most of the apps for my Garmin but not just enough ''smart'' with it still, the Oneplus watch 3 was kinda interesting especially the emerald version, Samsung watches just seem to have bad battery life

Would like to have a camera remote for the smartwatch

[leaden kiln]

my last was the pinetime so I think this one should be plenty for me

[leaden kiln]

orange was my least favorite though

[analog sinew]

https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/overview/

[sharp badger]

Ok and nothing wrong with the other colours, always buy the one you want 😄

[leaden kiln]

I didn't get to pick but ended up with the blue

it still looks a bit goofy on my baby wrists

[sharp badger]

I see

[digital cliff]

i still don't understand what smart watches do

[reef patrol]

In a nutshell. Watch the clock, use as a remote for your phone, so you don't have to take it out constantly, might help with some heatlh sensors?

[digital cliff]

yeah but like what do you do on it that you wouldn't rather get your phone out for

except tell the time but then you can just buy an actual watch

[rough osprey]

best use is probably for active people

so all the fitness stuff

[wheat plume]

Oooo I've got the grey one on the way!

[halcyon moss]

I my usecases I see are navigating on bike and health stuff.
Sometimes I also see friends take calls with them in a pinch

[wheat plume]

I like mine because it's better to look at the watch than take my phone from my pocket
And also for when I walk, I use it to see how far I walk and how my pace was and calories burnt and whatnot

Sleep tracking is nice too to motivate me to sleep longer

Cause the watch I currently have, it kinda shames you a little on a passive way that you didn't sleep enough xd

[halcyon moss]

I didn't like the notifications on watch. It was quite distracting

[wheat plume]

Same
I only keep them on for Whatsapp and incoming phone calls

Oh
Calendar too for reminders

[frozen ingot]

still you can get a lot of that stuff from a $50 fitbit or mi band

[wheat plume]

yep

[leaden kiln]

yeah I only chose this one because it's cheap, so I won't feel bad if it ends up not being used much

[wheat plume]

this watch is 69 dollars :D

[leaden kiln]

fitness tracking and a watch that looks a little better than a fitness band imo

[wheat plume]

I dislike the bands, the long ass narrow screen is frustrating to use

these watches are basically a smart band in a smart watch form factor though xd

[leaden kiln]

can't have a nice analog face then either
digital or it ends up being squished and goofy looking

[wheat plume]

yeh...

[frozen ingot]

so an unnecessarily bulky fitness band then

[nimble arch]

Any fellow enjoyers of the Apple Watch Ultra 2?

[frozen ingot]

I haven't had a wearable in years but one thing I did like about the fitness bands were their ergonomics, takes up less space on your wrist

[wheat plume]

too big and expensive

[frozen ingot]

I do think apples more advanced heart monitoring etc stuff is pretty cool

but yeah too bulky and overpriced

[reef patrol]

I don't get the attraction either personally.

But I also don't get the attraction of any kind of wearable, dumb or not with a phone in pocket.

I don't need what a basic watch does, and I don't want the status symbolism aspect.

[wheat plume]

the Pixel Watch is super compact and hela gorgeous, but its got shit battery and its pricey ;-;

best looking smartwatch IMO though

😍

[frozen ingot]

my distaste for "smart" tech grows stronger every year

[wheat plume]

yeah, I dont do much outside of the watch and the lightbulb I have

[rough osprey]

thats true

[wheat plume]

my current watch has like 2 weeks of battery life <3 <3

[nimble arch]

Mine is a cellular-enabled model and the eSIM is included in my phone contract. It's nice that I can walk to the shops and just carry my AirPods if I need to take a phone call.

[wheat plume]

oo

[nimble arch]

Plus I enjoy using mine for Apple Pay on public transport.

[rough osprey]

mine has infinite battery :O

[wheat plume]

idk if the CMF watch has NFC

[rough osprey]

but its not smart 😔

[nimble arch]

Not that I've witnessed a phone snatcher IRL but they are a thing in parts of London.

[rough osprey]

just run after them

[wheat plume]

my friend got his phone stolen right from his hands while he was using it once .-.

he remotely locked it from his google account and tracked the location to a phone shop where the guy who stole it tried to sell it

[nimble arch]

Stolen phones in London just end up in China to get stripped for parts

[wheat plume]

obviously, when you lock the phone remotely, it says its been remotely locked on the lockscreen and the phone shop guy knew it wasnt his

[nimble arch]

So remote tracking and locking it is kinda pointless in the end

[wheat plume]

yeh ....

[plush stirrup]

Intel moment on a hot day 🤣

[leaden kiln]

kinda wish I could listen to music with just my watch, so I can skip bringing my phone on a run

[plush stirrup]

For some reason they don't allow that on an android watch

Or maybe they do with earbuds or so connected to it, but watch alone doesn't allow it, it did on samsung's own watch OS thingy 😛

[leaden kiln]

I think samsungs old tws earbuds had 4 gigs of storage built into them for music

[nimble arch]

Apple and Samsung smart watches do that

I believe Pixel and Garmin also

[halcyon moss]

That's why I chose one without a screen. Oh and it's also not on my wrist

[wheat plume]

huh?

[halcyon moss]

Smart ring

[nimble arch]

Oura Ring?

[halcyon moss]

Yes

[nimble arch]

I am surprised Apple hasn't yet made a smart ring

[halcyon moss]

First they need to Remove capabilities from the apple watch

[wheat plume]

ooohhhh interesting

idk how those work, are the batteries inside them curved? how do you make curved batteries?!

holy shit this is expensive

and why is the rose gold so much more than the others?! ;-;

[devout raptor]

cute

[magic minnow]

I’d buy 10

[nimble arch]

I'd buy 11!

[wheat plume]

WAIT WAIT WAIT, to use the features, you need to pay monthly???

[plush stirrup]

only if you connect a bluetooth device though

[leaden kiln]

why would you wanna play music on the worst speaker you've ever heard

[plush stirrup]

It's not that bad

[leaden kiln]

just it's location makes it bad

[plush stirrup]

I'll try my watch 7 again, just need to charge it give it a bit 😄

[rough patrol]

cause they know people will pay for it

[iron wave]

Smart rings are manufactured eWaste.

They don't last very long and are impossible to repair.

[plush stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFxnAvUvCzo
Doesn't sound bad at all tbh

[iron wave]

I can't imagine playing music from a watch.

[halcyon moss]

Yes 😦

[plush stirrup]

Well, ofc, because it's "unintended" damn goodle and their wearos

[wheat plume]

you need to pay almost 600 dollars for the watch itself, then another 6 dollars per month to actually use it...wtf

[halcyon moss]

It's the best, and the others aren't much cheaper. Although they do not have a subscription model (yet)
Like ultra human or Samsung

[halcyon moss]

Watch?

[wheat plume]

ring*

[iron wave]

The Galaxy Watch 7 only has 32GB of storage and you'd need to be tethered to your phone to stream.

[halcyon moss]

I got a 10% discount for you
And the minimum then is 400 - 40

[rough osprey]

get a whoop

[devout raptor]

yes its a montly sub too

[iron wave]

I can't wait for my Core 2 Time.

[devout raptor]

i think people call this the subscription economy

[iron wave]

https://store.repebble.com/

[plush stirrup]

I got WiFi, or one can get an LTE model, also 32GB for a little music is a lot, some new phones still start at 64GB

[iron wave]

I have nearly 10GB of music on my phone and I need to get more.

[plush stirrup]

I have nothing on my phone, I just stream it all, I think youtube used to download songs but my premium expired and I consider 13eur/m a little too much for my liking 😄

[halcyon moss]

pebble doesnt do any hearthrate stuff righT?

[iron wave]

These will.

[vagrant pagoda]

i have like 30 GB lol

[plush stirrup]

If music video's count I got euhh a little much, but that's on my PC, not my phone :3

[vagrant pagoda]

i have a garmin for a single reason, its the only watch that warrenties water damage

[iron wave]

I have Pebbles and a Samsung thing.

The Pebbles are better.

[vagrant pagoda]

i wish pebble had a real water rating

[iron wave]

IPX8?

[vagrant pagoda]

real

as in if it leaks they actually warrenty it

[iron wave]

A month of battery life will be amazing.

[vagrant pagoda]

i get > week with garmin

[iron wave]

My Pebble Time Steal Kickstarter edition used to be like 10/12 days and now it's only like 6/7.

[vagrant pagoda]

though to be fair i could get a year of battery our of the same cost in pebbles

i like pebble

[iron wave]

Wow these are expensive.

[vagrant pagoda]

but ive have a box of almost 10 water damaged watchs

i wont ever go back to anything that dosent warrenty water damage

[iron wave]

I guess a good chunk of the price is the warranty.

[vagrant pagoda]

and just build quaility

the 1k+ are stainless or titanium body and sapphire glass

[iron wave]

Which I'll never use and Android Wear just sucks, it's way too heavy.

[vagrant pagoda]

its ok to be poor and not used to heavy ass watchs XD

[iron wave]

I could afford one of these, I just don't like Android Wear.

[vagrant pagoda]

i ment dumb watchs

a garmin fenix is the same weight class as a rolex

[iron wave]

When my ten year old watch is better than my new one there's a problem.

Oh, dumb ones. I almost got some recently.

[wheat plume]

Honestly, Huawei Watch Fit 2 is a great watch

[vagrant pagoda]

and thats what they target

[wheat plume]

all the features you need and its 120 euro

and small too

or get the Band 8 but that doesnt have GPS

but its smaller and has 2 week battery

[iron wave]

GPS on a watch? Weird.

They only need Bluetooth....

[wheat plume]

I have the Band 8 and its distance tracking is very not correct because it doesnt have GPS

and seems it cant get GPS data over bluetooth cause I had location enabled on my phone to try it out

[rough osprey]

when we getting thin smart watches

[iron wave]

That's what the phone is for.

[vagrant pagoda]

so checked

[wheat plume]

when battery wont suck

[vagrant pagoda]

my submariner is 163 grams with band, and my garmin is 166

[rough osprey]

them engineers gotta lock in

[vagrant pagoda]

but the garmin is 51mm and rolex is 40 somthing

[empty wren]

OnePlus and oppo watches have the same build quality for a third of the price

[wheat plume]

my watch collects all the data and sends it to the phone next time it connects, or in realtime if always connected and saves it until you end the workout

[vagrant pagoda]

grandted the garmin is tianium and the rolex is stainless

but they are the same weight

[iron wave]

I had to turn that stuff off on my Samsung watch to get over a day of battery.

[vagrant pagoda]

you can drop like 30+% weight with a normal band

and the descent is the heaviest smartwatch you can buy

[iron wave]

I recently got a metal band for my Pebble.

[nimble arch]

Garmin watches are really good

Plus they’ve got a wider ecosystem of products to link into

Cycling computers etc

Plus if you Garmin maps, they work on all devices.

[vagrant pagoda]

i get over 24 hours with gps on

with gps off i get week+

diving is what eats the battery up

i need 50%+ to get though 2 dives

[wheat plume]

oooo Gnome desktop has pride wallpaper :D

[nimble arch]

I charge every two days

But that’s fine as a city boy

[vagrant pagoda]

as the us dod is huge into garmin

[iron wave]

I shouldn't have to charge my watch more than my car.

[vagrant pagoda]

so i can also do ballastic calcs on the watch lol

[wheat plume]

lol yeah true xd

[vagrant pagoda]

it dose

you link the scope, phone and watch

and instead of using phone/scope to input data you can use watch

[pale sigil]

Bit gay that

[pale sigil]

I kinda want the new pebble

I realised how little I actually use my Samsung watch features lol

Id rather have battery over features i don't use

[wheat plume]

then get a new Pebble

https://store.repebble.com/

[pale sigil]

Lana

Why else would I be talking about it

I literally said the new pebble hun

[wheat plume]

I know!

[pale sigil]

I'm waiting for reviews

How does it have sleep tracking on both if one doesn't have a heart rate monitor

[wheat plume]

not sure

[iron wave]

December feels so far away.

[iron wave]

You can do some basic sleep tracking without HR.

[pale sigil]

That too but tbh

Somehow it's June already

Lol

[rough osprey]

why does it look 10 years old

[pale sigil]

Because the left one is an updated watch from over 10 years old

And the right one is a pro version of it

[rough osprey]

i mean atleast its cheap af

[pale sigil]

Oh sorry

The opposite of what I said

The right is a redesign

[pale sigil]

Haven't you heard of pebble before?

[iron wave]

Because the 10 year old Pebbles are still peak smart watch today.

[rough osprey]

heard the name but im not really interested in smart watches at all so

[iron wave]

They can't beat these yet, somehow trillions of dollars of market cap across several different mega corps and it's still the best smart watch.

[pale sigil]

Pebbles exceed in what they do.

Sure they aren't flashy but they exceed with battery life etc

[iron wave]

Pebble kicked off the smart watches and they are still the best......

[pale sigil]

They are smart watches without it being a phone on your wrist.

[iron wave]

I'm also looking forward to my Bigscreen 2.

[pale sigil]

Depends on what you want I guess.

[iron wave]

I want a watch that gets notifications, lets me control media and lasts at least a week on a charge.

[pale sigil]

Like if you genuinely use them like a phone I don't see pebble being the best.

But ye I'm with you.

Thats what I want, when I got my Samsung I basically wanted a phone on my arm.

Yet I only really used it for control, tracking and notifications lol

I did use maps once though and played games when my phone died XD

[iron wave]

It would be really nice to get NFC on Cores, but that won't be useful for tap to pay because I'm 99% sure Google won't let them use Android Wallet.

Or Google Wallet or Android Pay or Google Pay or whatever they call it now.

[pale sigil]

NGL even NFC I barley use my Google pay lol

I did at first because it's cool but then i just went back to using my phone lol

[iron wave]

That's the only feature I used on my Samsung watch that my Pebble doesn't have.

It freaked some of the people out at my local zoo that I had my zoo pass on my watch.

[pale sigil]

Lol

I had questions when I used my watch

[iron wave]

The other day I had someone notice I had a Pebble, that was cool.

[pale sigil]

I don't even think people with apple watches use it much to pay, idk, it just seems like a hard habit to break.

To not use your phone.

[iron wave]

I never really got into the habbit of pulling my phone out for everything, enough stuff doesn't take tap that I still think about it.

[halcyon moss]

I don't want Google to know I paid at a shop

[iron wave]

Fiar.

I really wish cash was more normal.

[rough osprey]

i wish apple pay was more normal

[pale sigil]

What

[iron wave]

Apple isn't normal what do you expect?

[rough osprey]

still having to use cash in 2025 is sad

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-movie-projector-gif-19435282

[rough osprey]

atleast accept cards

[pale sigil]

Lad

What

Where do you live

[rough osprey]

germany

[pale sigil]

Some third world country?

[iron wave]

You know something I'm slightly mad about with tap?

[pale sigil]

I've used cash once in 2 years

Or well in one place

And it was for my hair cuts

[analog sinew]

yes

[rough osprey]

especially restaurants only accept cash often

[pale sigil]

I don't think I've ever been to a restaurant that doesn't accept either.

Although takeaways often don't accept them

[rough osprey]

oh that too

[pale sigil]

Because fees

[iron wave]

Hrm, my kernel has a massive chicken and egg problem here that I'm going to have to invert. .-.

[rough osprey]

just adjust your prices man

[pale sigil]

They already be pricey

[iron wave]

Offer a cash discount.

[wheat plume]

I need to get pretty keycaps for my 60HE to match the pink cable and the pink alumaze

[rough osprey]

or that

although not sure if that is legal

[wheat plume]

but I dont like the wavy pattern on the official pink keycaps ;-; or the legends being on the side of the keys

[iron wave]

In the states it's illegal to upcharge for card but it's legel to give a discount for cash.

(Last I heard)

(Not a lawyer)

[wheat plume]

ive seen card be charged more in the US quite a lot when last there...which sucks cause I didnt bring cash with me .-.

[pale sigil]

I tried to find a site where I can just have Claire be the entire set but can't find one XD

[iron wave]

I wish taxes where included in prices.

[frozen ingot]

they would go out of business in a week if they did here

[wheat plume]

most diners still only accept cash though

[pale sigil]

Diners?

You're not American

[rough osprey]

ye i dont think its worth it for them

[pale sigil]

Unless you mean when you went to America

[frozen ingot]

people are a bit too reliant on e-payments here instead

lots of places has even stopped accepting cash payments period

[rough osprey]

das crazy

[frozen ingot]

yeah I think its kinda stupid ultimately even if most people do pay with phones or cards these days

[wheat plume]

How much does the company pay for card processing fees?

[frozen ingot]

am no expert on how the banks operate but I think its basically nothing these days if they use certain services

[pale sigil]

"Today, The British Retail Consortium (BRC) has published its BRC Payments Survey, showing a rise in the use of cash for the second year in a row to 19.9% of transactions in 2023 (from 18.8% in 2022). Debit cards remained far and away the most common method of payment, increasing to 62.0% of transactions (66.7% by spending). Taken together with credit cards, card payments accounted for over 75% of transactions and 85% of spending"

Oh look, cash is on the rise.

[frozen ingot]

like we've had swish here for over a decade now which lets people send money to each other instantaneously regardless of what bank you have

and you can use that to pay in a lot of stores or online now as well

[rough osprey]

0.5-2.6%

[wheat plume]

cash is on the rise cause most payment services are american or EU and the UK is allergic to the EU

/hjk

[rough osprey]

when they gonna take a big ship to push the uk further away from the rest of europe

[pale sigil]

I love how easy it is for me to spend in another country Vs in the past.

I didn't use cash once in the Netherlands, just my phone.

No nonsense, just tap and pay and no fees

[rough osprey]

ideally i would want to have all payment + ID + health card thing available on phone somehow

so you dont even need a wallet

[pale sigil]

ID idk

[nimble arch]

We’re getting a digital ID app in the UK.

[pale sigil]

Idk what a health card is

[pale sigil]

Oh noes

[nimble arch]

It’s for drivers licenses etc

[rough osprey]

oh ye driver license too lol

[pale sigil]

Dangerous territory

[rough osprey]

why

[pale sigil]

Potential breaches etc

[nimble arch]

https://www.gov.uk/wallet

It’s also part of wider efforts to unify digital accounts for government services

I’m ok with this

[rough osprey]

just make it safe

[analog sinew]

dw guys governments always know what they are doing esp digital

its not run by boomers with no clue

[rough osprey]

good enough

https://x.com/getpeid/status/1936351290830807348?s=46

Carl Pei (@getpeid)

Says the company whose headphones look like PC cooling fans

I know because I've used my HD 650 for 10 years 😂

X · Jun 21, 2025, 9:11 AM

people calling sennheisers ugly now?

while making a headphone looking like that

[analog sinew]

🤷‍♂️

[halcyon moss]

Hjkl*

[old marlin]

wtf kinda fans does his pc have

[analog sinew]

hmm i kinda get it but it still looks better tbh

[old marlin]

not even a contest

also is an absolutely classic design that has been only marginally changed since the HD600 and the recently released HD660S2 still uses it

[rough osprey]

490pro so beautiful

[old marlin]

different sennheiser

[rough osprey]

ik

[old marlin]

but to some people these also look like fans ig

[pale sigil]

I love mine

I think they are such a nice design

[bitter lion]

what channel do i ask for help my wooting isnt working 😖

[wheat plume]

OK OK, Android 16's new status icons are growing on me a little

[ashen spindle]

post in #1019755933959733258

[wheat plume]

I found a major issue with this phone for my use case :/

Since I dont have WIFI and rely on the phone hotspot....
This phone overheats and turns off the hotspot after sending a notification about overheating, if I download anything over like 6GB in size on hotspot :/

so updating or downloading games on Steam is not a possiblity or large ISO files

[halcyon moss]

Weird, doesn't seem Like being a Hotspot should make a phone hot

[wheat plume]

gonna see how much I can get downloaded before it turns it off

[halcyon moss]

Put the phone on a cool spot?

Like stone surface or metal surface

[wheat plume]

hmmm idk of any here

[iron wave]

16 is already a thing?

[wheat plume]

Sort of, AOSP has been rebased but its not officially updated on Pixel , or any other phone, yet

except the dev and beta builds

[iron wave]

I remember when AOSP was useable.

[wheat plume]

wdym, is it not now?

[pale sigil]

It make definitely does

[iron wave]

Raw AOSP isn't going to be a good experience without a bunch of tweaks and additional programs.

[pale sigil]

My 7a was on fire almost

[wheat plume]

afaik, I heard rumours that AOSP is gonna become closed source

[iron wave]

That would be super stupid.

[wheat plume]

I put it on a ceramic plate... xd

[reef patrol]

Buy a cheap 4G router?

[wheat plume]

then id have to pay another monthly fee for data

[vagrant pagoda]

put it on a fan?

[reef patrol]

Or swap the SIM card around as needed. Preferable to a phone that overheats, no?

[wheat plume]

This phone is a downgrade in terms of CPU and overheating, I Guess
but the screen, build quality and updates are an upgrade

I had to use custom ROM on my last phone to stay updated, cause it only got one Android upgrade officially... this phone is getting 3 years

[halcyon moss]

which china phone did you buy again?

[wheat plume]

my current one or the one I had before this?

my current one is not Chinese xd its British...

maybe thats why it overheats, cause the UK is cold af 90% of the time xd

I too overheat if the temp gets above 20C

[vagrant pagoda]

there is like no shot its british

[wheat plume]

Nothing is based in London

sure, not made there, no phone is..but they are based there

[vagrant pagoda]

nothing is made in china, by ex oneplus peeps

[halcyon moss]

nothing i square under china phone indeed :p

[wheat plume]

Nah, they are all in London, even says it on the back of the phone

[vagrant pagoda]

lmao

[halcyon moss]

sure sure

[vagrant pagoda]

carl pei was literaly a founder of oneplus

[wheat plume]

yeh I know xd

[rough patrol]

[ashen spindle]

take chinese team, register building in the uk, now you have a uk phone

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean to be fair pei was rasied in us/sweaden

but he literally went from one chinese phone maker ot dothing basicly the same thing at a "uk" based one

[wheat plume]

LOL

[reef patrol]

What are we laughing at?

[wheat plume]

It does say London on the phone xd

[reef patrol]

Okay? And what is significant about that?

[wheat plume]

mainly a reply to this

[ashen spindle]

you know you can just write anything there

[vagrant pagoda]

100%

[wheat plume]

LOL

i know

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

:')

[vagrant pagoda]

check thier linkedn for empoyees

[plush stirrup]

Country where it's manufactured does need to be accurate though, unless you actually make it on mars

[ashen spindle]

not really

you can just do one final step and then declare it country of origin

[rough osprey]

they just have a office and store in london

[reef patrol]

If all it took was that, all of our keyboards would be tariff free.

[ashen spindle]

just look at how cpus used to say taiwan as origin country engraving, some then changed to saying china, some say malaysia, and its all the same, the other places just put the cpu onto the pcb

and neither matter for importing as mansen said xD

[plush stirrup]

I mean depending on where it's sold made on mars could be a false claim to where it's made, obviously it's not gonna be made on mars.

From what I really quickly looked up in EU, a phone doesn't even need to specify where it's made, only certain specific items, unless google didn't show me certain things 😄

[reef patrol]

EU? This is the UK.

[wheat plume]

ok the plate is working!

downloaded nearly 19gb and no overheating

[unkempt lake]

The plate?

[wheat plume]

I put my phone on a ceramic dish plate to cool it down

[unkempt lake]

If your phone is british then my iphone is californian

[wheat plume]

XD

[unkempt lake]

By your logic

XD

[unkempt lake]

Why don't you just get... a proper router

[wheat plume]

damn it

[unkempt lake]

Hell an LTE router

[wheat plume]

after 21gb

[unkempt lake]

Plop the sim card in

[wheat plume]

but then id need to pay for a second SIM card and route my phone number to it so I can get calls and texts still

[unkempt lake]

Another idea get actual internet xD

[ashen spindle]

theres data only sim cards if your provider has that

or combo offers where they just send you two sims

[unkempt lake]

And often times they can be added for a small fee and use the data fron the same plan

[bright briar]

eSims are annoying

[ashen spindle]

nobody even mentioned esims here?

[nimble arch]

eSIMs are based

[unkempt lake]

Like genuinely i don't understand why 1- lana uses fucking cellular, get an actual internet plan even a basic one would be better than what you're doing
2- if you really can't afford an internet plan then get a second sim that's still linked to your data plan (one for a tablet or a smart watch) buy an lte modem and use that

[wheat plume]

Dont want to pay 50 a month for a data cap of just 100gb

havent found anyone provinding connection at this location that doesnt have a data cap or a fair use policy .-.

[unkempt lake]

shop around?

[wheat plume]

I have been

thats the best deal I found so far

[unkempt lake]

Fair use policy is whatever

[wheat plume]

its not....

[unkempt lake]

Do you seed torrents?

[wheat plume]

Fair use policy means they throttle the speed dramatically if you go above their limit

[unkempt lake]

Ok

[wheat plume]

in my aunts case, that limit is 60gb

[unkempt lake]

Do you seed torrents

[wheat plume]

no

[unkempt lake]

then you're fine

[wheat plume]

nah I use thast much data often

[ashen spindle]

what do you consider much data

[unkempt lake]

They look at upload

Download they couldn't give less of a shit

[wheat plume]

yes they do

[reef patrol]

Fair Use is very broad and depends on ISP. Some dont give a damn, unless you're running a 24/7 seeding service, others may allow about 300GB or below, some look at Upload only.

[wheat plume]

My aunts provider, like I said, throttle above 60GB

we werent told that when they installed the service

[unkempt lake]

Ok then option 2 get another sim and an lte modem

[wheat plume]

we found out when we went above it and suddenly could barely load a website

[reef patrol]

I know people who have been downloading HARD on Steam , a Terabyte or more a month at times, not a word. And then others on the same plan who got told off for "uploading nonstop all day, every day - sus"

But - If they do throttle they do have to do it in writing and actually state limitations.

Yeah a Data Cap is mentioned upfront, and typically has a "above 50GB your download speed drops to 10mbit or somesuch"

Fair Use is when you use so much internet that they feel like you're taking advantage of an "unlimited" plan. Typically reserved for anyone who tries to operate a server or seedbox from home 😄

[wheat plume]

nah they call this a fair use policy in their website

[unkempt lake]

send us the website

lol

[nimble arch]

I can download terabytes each month and my ISP doesn't really care

Upload is a different story but also only 100 mbps so harder to reach super high amounts

[wheat plume]

https://www.imagine.ie/acceptable-use-policy/ oh its the "Acceptable" Use policy

[bright briar]

i know i just saw sim and i brought it up

[nimble arch]

I used to never put my phone on WiFi and during those periods I'd use like 150GB per month. Although EE state their fair use policy at 1TB, or it was that the last time I checked.

Oh, seems like it's 600GB per month.

[wheat plume]

OMFH LOL

[nimble arch]

What kind of bullshit policy is that in the FTTP era anyway?

Oh

Huge RIP

[steady sail]

i love seeding

[crimson wigeon]

Yes seed all those Linux distros

[nimble arch]

I've had to use WiFi a lot these last few weeks. My Ethernet cable is damaged somewhere along the run and until I run a new one, I'm only using it to download games. It's that or get random DCs or lag spikes in multiplayer games.

Not too bad for the opposite corner of the house with an ISP router though. Playable for Fall Guys and MMOs

[ashen spindle]

so to summarise theres plenty of wifi options and they dont throttle after 60gigs if you just get the right plan

[fair gull]

the provider lana linked doesnt even mention 60gb limits anywhere

[ashen spindle]

yeah they only show unlimited plans so they might have other ones if the coverage isnt there that dont even get listed anymore lol