🔌│tech

[ashen spindle]

you think for multiple hundred million dollar of revenue, its not enough to have a tiny pc optimization that would work for all the variations, because it didnt make hundreds of billions

[vivid vine]

That would be terrible sales for a COD title

[vivid vine]

I just dont care and not sure why you guys do

[ashen spindle]

active players doesnt mean total sales

sales are like 20x the active player count

[vivid vine]

The game sucks, it has since like 2014

[ashen spindle]

well you argue they dont make enough money to have someone properly add the steam api

[vivid vine]

Money, active player base etc yeah

[ashen spindle]

okay, again, multiple hundred millions of dollar in revenue, more than 99% of games ever put onto steam, is not enough?

[vivid vine]

No..cause hundreds of millions came from the console playerbase, where the game is optimized

They dont care about Steam users

[ashen spindle]

no the console players make them much more the steam users still made them that much

[vivid vine]

So you think COD sells just as well on PC as it does on say PS5?

[ashen spindle]

where did I say that

[unkempt lake]

ok guys

This is a discussion for #🎮│game

Move it over there

plz

[ashen spindle]

cod franchise made like 30 billion by 2022, that means a few hundred million on pc is not too far off and still less

[vivid vine]

I wouldnt even give it that, maybe a million

[ashen spindle]

but still enough to warrant some adding a steam api correctly

bro the steam stats showed 500k active players at one point, thats 1 million at the price of 2 dollars for the games

and most people didnt get the game for 2 bucks

[vivid vine]

If its adding up 5 years of games

Thats terrible

[ashen spindle]

no its not because its not 2 bucks, if they all bought it for 60 dollars thats 30 million, then you have to count in active players != people who bought the account

so you have to at least 10x that

[vivid vine]

Do you know if those numbers include Free to Play Weekends?

[ashen spindle]

and you are telling me you cant afford paying someone a months worth of salary if you make millions on the platform

[vivid vine]

If not, the math is wayyyy off

[vagrant pagoda]

or more likely its just a bug

[vivid vine]

Either way I get your point, just dont care, its COD

[ashen spindle]

do you want me to include battlepass purchases too?

because then its a lot more money

[vagrant pagoda]

they likely tested it with accounts with 1 friend

and didnt test it with 100s

[vivid vine]

Like you guys should buy a console if COD optimization on PC irritates you that badly

Its a console players game through and through

[ashen spindle]

so because they make more there and they only make a few millions on steam I shouldnt be able to expect they pay 2000$ to put one dev on making it work correctly once across all games they add

[vivid vine]

Most likely the thought process for them.. just like Halo Infinite, FIFA other games similar

Sometimes we get love, like F1 and BF, but its rare

Othertimes the games feel like a cash grab, they never get updates and stay buggy, usually a tell tell sign they just dont give a ratass about the PC player base

[ashen spindle]

oh we have even better numbers, due to the merger we have better infos from 2023:

Blizzard is currently the largest factor in the PC's growth within Activision. While Blizzard games are only making about half as much as Call of Duty, 72% of that revenue is on PC and just 8% is on console. Call of Duty's revenue is more evenly split: 59% console, 26% PC, and 15% mobile

pc is half the revenue of console

thats not nothing

[vivid vine]

Every COD I played since MW 2019 has been a little buggy even with good hardware, I understand you want it updated. Im telling you to stop buying it, then you wont be screwed over

[ashen spindle]

I dont even have any cod game lol

[vivid vine]

Im dead

Let the dummies that bought COD on PC pay the price.

[ashen spindle]

I said that at the start of the entire topic that I dont own the game just laughed at the code

[cedar fog]

honestly call of duty titles have a better track record than a lot of games ive played in recent years

[vivid vine]

Let me get your eye balls then

[ashen spindle]

and no game that makes MILLIONS should be just okay with the devs halving your frames from having steam active

[vivid vine]

Sheshh, what games do you play with that thought process?

[cedar fog]

well lets compare other live service titles

[lyric hatch]

My guess is PC is also the fastest growing market, but I reckon in terms of retaining players given the amount of different options on PC players probably aren't spending as much on mtx etc

[cedar fog]

valorant, rainbow six siege, marvel rivals

[ashen spindle]

I dont even know any other game that comes close to being that fucked from just having steam active

[cedar fog]

oh i thought we were talking about just bugs

mb

[vivid vine]

I would just comapre FPS titles and Shooters

[ashen spindle]

like gta5 had the long loading issue that took a while to fix because it wasnt as obvious what caused it

which was from the game adding more and mroe content etc.

but bo2 would just crash if you have more than 60 online friends and this games kils yoour fps for having a friends list active

it checks multiple times a frame if you are chat banned

[lyric hatch]

You mean the issue that was fixed by a community member https://www.pcgamer.com/rockstar-thanks-gta-online-player-who-fixed-poor-load-times-official-update-coming/

[ashen spindle]

yea

[cedar fog]

thats crazy

[rocky pasture]

Yo, I have a question about rappy snappy can I use it in cs2 because I ran it and it didn't kick me out of the match?

[vivid vine]

Of course a PC gamer found it

[cedar fog]

no

[ashen spindle]

well yeah you cant debug a console as easily

[vivid vine]

Yes

SOCD is whats banned

[cedar fog]

people were getting kicked for both weren't they

or did they fix that

i mean there were also people getting kicked with neither at one point lmao

[rocky pasture]

okay someone will help me sort it out?

[ashen spindle]

#1019723042244534282

[cedar fog]

you won't get banned for it

thats all that matters try it and figure it out

[vivid vine]

Sort what out

You are not using the setting that is banned, your good

[cedar fog]

im curious why steam wouldn't be bothered by this

[ashen spindle]

why would steam care if you make your game shit lol

[vivid vine]

Valve just likes money

Like every corp

[ashen spindle]

they arent some watchdog that governs your games and forces it to be good

[cedar fog]

well they're making a massive amount of req

[ashen spindle]

and the api calls can be cached on their site so its not causing traffic for them

[cedar fog]

obviously steam probably caches stuff

[ashen spindle]

if you dont update chat bans you dont need to answer every request instantly

[vivid vine]

What is it even for? To ban voice coms?

[ashen spindle]

no its just checking if you are chat banned, voice chat is iirc a different check they also do lmfao

[vivid vine]

what a joke, another reason to never buy this game on PC or in general

[cedar fog]

they like would max need a request every minute

thats crazy

[vivid vine]

They don't deserve the money they get every year, wish people would wake up and stop buying that crap

[cedar fog]

i haven't bought a cod game

since i owned a ps3

i played warzone tho

and borrowed for black ops campaign

[vivid vine]

This is the way

Play Free, dont buy skins or passes

got em

[cedar fog]

i doubt it will matter

unfortunately the vast majority will still purchase games

[ashen spindle]

its just so bizarre because they do really cool stuff like with their anti cheat that makes cool things that make sure it doesnt affect performance at all

and then this

[vivid vine]

Yeah we are not effecting them at all unfortunately

[cedar fog]

imagine they had a debounce and just did it wrong

xD

[lyric hatch]

It's Activision Blizzard they are almost incapable of making good decisions

[ashen spindle]

https://ssno.cc/posts/reversing-tac-1-4-2025/ but like this is someone reversing the cold war anit cheat and it does some cool stuff if you know enough about the code

[cedar fog]

i saw that gamerdoc retweeted that the other day

[ashen spindle]

it also has some tidbits that if you understand enough do show why with current setup kernel AC makes so much more sense to prevent things

[cedar fog]

i've been enjoying the shit shows of watching hardware cheaters being banned

its so entertaining to see the chat logs

[vivid vine]

Wonder how many cheaters are on Arma and Squad 🤔

All I have been playing lately

[rigid tinsel]

did you see that from the HN post too :D

was a good read

[ashen spindle]

no someone linked it to me xD

im too much into renderdoc atm and dont want to wrap my head about two different low level things at once but its still a good read xD

[rigid tinsel]

im way out of my depth when it comes to low level languages but i enjoy reading writeups about it regardless

well windows wants to lock down kernel access for 3rd parties due to the crowdstrike incident

[lyric hatch]

I'm sure they have some smart people making things over at Activision Blizzard maybe things will change under new CEO but that's probably

[rigid tinsel]

im pretty happy with it ngl, the idea that tencent has a backdoor in my PC is making me pissed thinking about it

[gentle osprey]

Have to admit, them 1% lows lookin real nice on the 5090

[unkempt lake]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2587255/amd-confirms-mystery-bug-that-reportedly-affects-gaming-pcs.html

[unkempt lake]

hi mr 5090

[gentle osprey]

what windows do now

[unkempt lake]

microcode machine

[gentle osprey]

ah of course

[unkempt lake]

not windows

[gentle osprey]

oh

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/hffgf-gif-22453222

[rigid tinsel]

when poc

[gentle osprey]

finally finished watching GN benchmark, looks like I was pretty spot on

[unkempt lake]

Hbu

Ur welcome

[gentle osprey]

Im gonna watch them too

already had it up

[vapid ruin]

hmm, so 5090 is good for VR

[gentle osprey]

and 4k

and high VRAM apps

[vapid ruin]

yeh, big enough that you can run your AI waifu while playing skyrim

[gentle osprey]

yep

He's standing, it has to be good

[unkempt lake]

That's... generally the opposite

He stands when angy

[gentle osprey]

I was being sarcastic sorry

[vapid ruin]

base skyrim with necessary mod

should only eat 12gb of vram

[cedar fog]

im testing out dlss 4 - transformer on escape from tarkov

[vapid ruin]

leaves about 20gb for 12b model

[cedar fog]

rip if i get anti cheat banned

[gentle osprey]

ur welcome

Steve crackin me up with the 4090ti comments

[unkempt lake]

I mean it's basically a 4090 ti

[gentle osprey]

Yeah, I'll just get a 5070ti and get the same performance

[sudden imp]

If AMDS raster is anywhere near the 5070ti for lower that might be huge ngl

[gentle osprey]

It's gotta be @ or below $499 or bust

[magic minnow]

easy upgrade from the 4090

[cedar fog]

i used dlss 4 transformer model

it is

very much better

[vapid ruin]

yay

[cedar fog]

even just the anti aliasing

def excited to use it in stalker 2 or like

story games

[cunning charm]

so if i have a 4070 ti super what should i upgrade to?

5080 ? or the 5070

[magic minnow]

Where are the benchmarks for the Astral

[cunning charm]

im playing the new final fantasy and that game has the fans on my gpu on overdrive sheesh

[vapid ruin]

RIP 1050/1060/1080, 1650/1660

At least from the spec I can hopefully play at ultra 1080p/900p

[unkempt lake]

What card do you have

[vapid ruin]

4070tiS

[unkempt lake]

Not an issue at all

[gentle osprey]

Uhm none tbh

[unkempt lake]

Vram will be your limiting factor

[gentle osprey]

4070ti super still really good

[vapid ruin]

I'm okay with dropping down the texture resolution

[unkempt lake]

New idtech loves vram

[cunning charm]

copy

[vapid ruin]

unless you're starving for vram, 4070tiS is really nice still

[gentle osprey]

yeah unless you really want the features of 50 series which are pretty much coming to other series except MFG, and you can sell off your 4070ti super and only pay a small difference for a 5070ti then sure but otherwise just keep it

[cunning charm]

copy guess itll hold until next gen lol

[magic minnow]

Maybe I won’t get the 5090 now

maybe

[gentle osprey]

what you have now and what res you play on?

[magic minnow]

4090 and I bounce between 2k and 4k

[gentle osprey]

ah yeah, 5090 not worth unless playing at higher res, price:performance bad, overall performance good, 4090 is basically best value in recent years in terms of flagship models

60% faster, same price as 3090ti

5090 is 25-30% up to 40% in some titles faster and 25% more cost

@4k

[magic minnow]

yeah I wanted the 5090 to give the 4090 to my little bro but I might just try to get him a different gpu

[gentle osprey]

just get lil bro a 5070

turn on MFG 4x and boom 4090

[magic minnow]

Tru was thinking about getting him an amd gpu but idk

[gentle osprey]

9070xt might be nice if 499 or less

[magic minnow]

fingers crossed then

[gentle osprey]

Can also find older series cards for good prices

[silk obsidian]

is changing wooting60he case is difficult?

what do i need to do it except for additional case? i got tofu60

[analog sinew]

no, you just undo a few screws and plop it in

[halcyon moss]

ray tracing becoming a requirement is becoming more common. well.. 5700xt, you had a good run

[digital cliff]

nah not really

i don't plan on using it any time soon

[analog sinew]

its becoming mandatory in some games

[reef patrol]

Time to start hacking games to remove shit like that again 😄

Oblivion shakes in its grave

[analog sinew]

if its baked into the render pipeline...

roughie

[umbral heron]

There's also a question if said games are worth playing

[crimson wigeon]

I wonder how well those games run with older GPUs and software emulated raytracing

[reef patrol]

Oldblivion existed for a reason 😄

I have severe doubts that any games NEEDS raytracing (in practice)

[magic minnow]

Doom though

[digital cliff]

then I guess I just won't play them

[halcyon moss]

ill add it to a list: games to play on new hardware :p

[analog sinew]

give me 5080

soon... maybe...

[gentle osprey]

I agree no games NEED raytracing, you can have great visuals without it, it should just be a cherry on top, icing on the cake if you will

[halcyon moss]

as a dev i can see that you have to draw a line somewhere

[gentle osprey]

Yeah just really depends what the project is going for

tons of options

[lyric hatch]

There are only a handful of games that have good RT, and that's probably due to the fact most triple AAA games are still designed with consoles in mind

[digital cliff]

when I can do RT without halving framerate on a 1500€ GPU then I might care about it

[lyric hatch]

What if I halve your frame rate but then 4x it with fake frames

[digital cliff]

depends on how good it is and what I need to pay to have that

if it feels like shit to play, has artifacts and I still need a car-money GPU for it then I'm afraid I don't really care

[gentle osprey]

One step backward, five steps forward

[lyric hatch]

I think if your not enchanced fps is below 60 it's probably not great

[gentle osprey]

Them 1% lows are worth $500 on their own

[digital cliff]

i'd really just need this stuff from AMD but it looks like they are gonna pretty much exit the competition so it'll be a while before I really take a look at any of this stuff

[gentle osprey]

Yeah I mean AMD (RDNA) unfortunately falls behind in hardware

relative to nvidia (GeForce)

for anything to get better, they need better hardware, software aint gonna cut it

https://youtu.be/qTeKzJsoL3k?si=oBEz1mXu0HaJ2-_U
this vid from a couple months ago covers it pretty well

[lyric hatch]

need better software though too FSR has always been behind, and looks like FSR4 will be no exception

[gentle osprey]

Yeah they look to have made some nice improvements to FSR4 tbh but DLSS4 lookin real nice too lol

that transformer model

Wish Nvidia had some stronger competition

[lyric hatch]

thing is though I don't think they have it fully implemented into any games yet

hence the delay

[gentle osprey]

Nah, iirc it's gonna be released as experimental

I have a version of it installed rn for Stalker 2

[lyric hatch]

well DLSS 4 is launching with 75 games supported on release apparently

[gentle osprey]

you can also use it on cyberpunk 2077 rn

[umbral heron]

They've added DLSS4 to CP2077 yesterday

[gentle osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1i82rp6/dlss_4_dlls_from_cyberpunk_patch_221/

I just took these and injected them with Nvidia Inspector and using them in my game (stalker 2)

[lyric hatch]

I play at least one of these games

[umbral heron]

I don't see Balatro there

[lyric hatch]

big miss by Nvidia

[gentle osprey]

[halcyon moss]

some of these games dont need dlss right?
as in.. they should run absolutely fine of 5000 series

[gentle osprey]

Yeah

correct

[halcyon moss]

its not bad to have the option though

[magic minnow]

what no PoE

[gentle osprey]

Im honestly running native most of the time

rarely use DLSS qual

[lyric hatch]

I am intrigued to see what like playing a game that usually runs at 200fps at 800fps

[magic minnow]

Hell yeah we got Slender the arrival

[gentle osprey]

I dont mind DLSS qual tho

just depends what im going for

and what game

[magic minnow]

Oooooooh and gray zone

[gentle osprey]

Lol

I like gray zone but idk if they should've released during the tarkov hate train

I like what they did with NVGs tho

[magic minnow]

I haven't played it since like the first week of launch lol

[gentle osprey]

I put like 130h into it

[magic minnow]

Put 36 hours and I'm waiting for the day and night cycle is that in it already?

[gentle osprey]

Yeah thats in now

with NVGs

new weapons, quest, lootables, etc

[magic minnow]

neat C: I'll check that out sometime soon

[gentle osprey]

I haven't played it

but they added some goodies

[magic minnow]

The pvp was hell, people just camping the exfil sites lol

[gentle osprey]

Yeah lol

[umbral heron]

Tarkov?

Oooo, they fixed EAC on Linux for Gray Zone

[magic minnow]

stash tab sale is up on PoE btw

[gentle osprey]

I really wanna get back into that tbh

I bought a bundle on the last stash tab sale

gives like 1 of each tab

HCSSF so fun on there

[lyric hatch]

doing my first playthrough now, very fun so far

[umbral heron]

Fwack no, I spent way too much money on stash tabs already

[gentle osprey]

visuals are

playing that game on my ultrawide is great stuff

[magic minnow]

Are you liking Poe 2 c:?

[steady sail]

LMAO

[umbral heron]

Haven't played yet

[ornate crest]

stash tab?

[magic minnow]

Yeh in path of exile game

[ornate crest]

Ah, I see, I don't play that game so was very unaware

[digital cliff]

hoarding in every game I see

[rough patrol]

Prob not as much as me

(I have a severe spending problem)

[wheat plume]

The day AI narrates audiobooks is the day the audiobook industry dies...

...it's already happening???

Bet it's some multimillionaire corporation doing this

[magic minnow]

https://www.minimalcompany.com

[vapid ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdjOfKPt51s

[vapid ruin]

cool

can power limit to 80% without much performance loss

[magic minnow]

lol for ants

[crimson wigeon]

Shipping with an outdated operating system, bruh

[ember dock]

hi guys, anyone here know how to get your hands on a 50 series founders edition card here in the Netherlands??

[magic minnow]

Gotta wait till the 30th I think

[ember dock]

yes i saw that marketplace but its not clear to me if its actually going to be there

are there any resellers that sell FE here?

[ember dock]

yeah def that i know

im just afraid that if im not at the right place at the right time for the FE i miss out on the normal sale elsewhere

[marsh glade]

https://www.nvidia.com/nl-nl/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/#notify-me
"Notify me" is the best you can do via Nvidia directly

[ember dock]

for like the board partner cards

welp, im afraid im not going to do that

0 patience

im def getting one at launch, if its not the FE then another. but i would like the FE

[marsh glade]

FE is definitely the way to go

[ember dock]

nvidia is not going to raise their price on their own site on launch day right lol?

it says its listed for 1190

[marsh glade]

After every unit sold, price goes up by 0.5%

[ember dock]

so im guessing thats going to be the price on the site

[ember dock]

really, thats crazy

well I'll be fast

yeah im not doing that

if i cant get it direct ill just go for a board partner

scary times

im going to try

you buying?

im going for the 5080

lol

[wheat plume]

128gb is pathetic

[ember dock]

fair

[wheat plume]

Especially for €1119

[ember dock]

i have a pixel 8a

happy with it

had a pixel 7 pro before that

[wheat plume]

They are too overpriced but I really want a 9

[marsh glade]

Hey now, my phone has 128gb of space

[ember dock]

why do you want the pro

[marsh glade]

And it's 98% full 😐

[wheat plume]

But this is absurd
256g is the MAXIMUM space on a phone above a grand in 2025

Stupid AF
Even the iPhone starts at 256

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104834999397658807/1332326476728500337/the-new-benchmarks-in-a-nutshell-v0-965676dpvree1.webp?ex=6794d939&is=679387b9&hm=dfd1c66ed8c8161e0be4e7e4506ce5bc4a53be78c7029f4406db052c189bcf45&

[ember dock]

true

[pale sigil]

I don't miss the 32gb days

[pale sigil]

Isn't that literally every gen

[fair gull]

crap

i swear i searched if its been posted

[slate solar]

Recycling bin

[fair gull]

the interesting part is the frames per watt/joule/whatever efficiency

[halcyon moss]

Dude, don't buy at Google, it's cheaper at other stores

[fair gull]

hahaha even the bigger version costs less at other places than google wants for it

[cursive summit]

I don't imagine there's demand for this

At least I fail to see what the demand would be for a mediocre chip on an overpriced phone

[halcyon moss]

It's fast enough. Makes excellent photos

[analog sinew]

thats like every phone

[halcyon moss]

Pixel still is a tad better on photos

[lyric hatch]

google seems to always botch some software related thing on each version

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/IyeoVe_8T3A

With the insane strides in cooling that they are doing, is there really any point whatsoever in Nvidia still partnering with AIBs?

Nvidia could just populate the market with their own products and avoid AIBs

[lyric hatch]

well yeah they don't make enough cards for the entire market and they don't distribute to every region

[cursive summit]

But they can start to make enough cards to cover for all AIBs, and to find distributors to all the regions

I don't see how there's still any point in Nvidia partnering with AIBs

More money for them

[lyric hatch]

nvidia is spending a lot more on these coolers then AIBs are able to spend on a base model card

[analog sinew]

i want 5080 content

[cursive summit]

In 5 days I think?

[analog sinew]

i'm sure the aib model is gonna run out sooner or later

[balmy vector]

I want the driver update :(

[analog sinew]

yeah

[cursive summit]

29th, a day before launch

[reef patrol]

That seems like a choice, not a limitation.

They're still the ones producing every chip. So all that's missing is the cooling and less critical components. And of course distribution.

[thick ermine]

Seeing these power draw charts, I’m def rethinking upgrading 4080S to 5090. $ saved where I’m at if I stick with 4080S would literally pay for a 60 series upgrade 🤔

[lyric hatch]

right but every FE card they make is likely less profit margin then selling to an AIB who already has the distribution chain set up

[reef patrol]

They control the profit margin, when they are the ones making the one, critical component all cards need.

[cursive summit]

Isn't it the opposite? Higher profit margin?

FE cards would cost for them less to make than it would cost an AIB to make a complete card

[reef patrol]

Is there an upfront cost in expanding to other regions? Yes. But they could literally just do B2B sales to local distributors and wash their hands of dealing with anywhere they don't want to.

[cursive summit]

That's what Europe does

[lyric hatch]

right you also need to run support/warranty, deal with import tariffs taxes work deal with physical stores

[cursive summit]

A lot of big distribution chains

[cursive summit]

No, they don't need to work with physical stores

[reef patrol]

It's what we do for markets that are difficult for us to work in. Like China.

[cursive summit]

If they partner with a distributor, they do

Here in baltics there's a massive distibutor called ACC, nearly every physical shop partners with them

[lyric hatch]

right well that's what AIBs do for them and they do it for pennies on the dollar per GPU

[reef patrol]

No?

AIBs are manufacturers, not distributors.

[cursive summit]

I do not see how an AIB has higher profit margin than Nvidia

Nvidia makes the thing, that they then sell at a price to AIBs

There's no logical reasoning how they'd make less per FE card over AIBs

[lyric hatch]

exactly they are buying the gpu at exactly the price nvidia wants to sell it for, which I gurantee is more then what they making on their FE cards with way higher tier components for the cooler

those level of cards are $200-300 more from AIBs

[reef patrol]

That is... an assumption. That I don't see where you're getting from.

[cursive summit]

That doesn't compute for me either

You are assuming they are higher tier components, I don't see that

If anything the 2 slot coolers will cost LESS to make than massive AIB shrouds just by material cost

[cursive summit]

Bwah, what

100W more?

[distant tapir]

https://youtu.be/8Jw6ZEhqhvo

[fair gull]

the question is whats the fps gain with 100w more

because as der8auer showed you can go 80% target power on the FE and only miss out on 7% of the performance

[umbral heron]

Oh, they are pulling Intel
More watts just to see more gains

[lyric hatch]

right all those 3d vapor chambers they got lying around to make a 2 slot cooler work on a 575w card

[cursive summit]

Nvidia is toast after UDNA comes out

[cursive summit]

Vapor chambers have been used by all AIBs since at least RDNA1 on AMD side as far as I'm aware

[lyric hatch]

right but they weren't "3D"

[thick ermine]

Tried to calculate cost per year avg for me to game on my setup if I used a 5090FE and I’d be paying close to $500/yr just to game. Also use it for high resource productivity for more than 50% of the time…so I’d be paying over $1,000/yr just to power my computer 💀

[cursive summit]

Yes, welcome to 2025

Just get a lower end card if you need to save power lol

[umbral heron]

I certainly do hope to see UDNA 10090XT or at least 10080

[cursive summit]

If AMD has any brains (they don't) they'll go with a normal naming scheme like Apple with "AMD UDNA U1"

But it'll be something braindead like "AMD UDNA RX 1070 XT"

[ashen spindle]

You can’t make a simple apple naming scheme with multiple products like gpus that would be shit

[umbral heron]

Even that would seem too sane for AMD

[thick ermine]

I run a 4080S currently. It works fine. Just one of those things I have the disposable income for an upgrade to 5090, but I’m really not looking forward to the added cost in electric to run it. Not to mention, I’d probably have to install A/C finally in my house for the summer.

[cursive summit]

Why do you even need a new card then

[pale sigil]

If you have disposable income then why are you bothered about the electric cost.

Also if you have disposable income I'll take your 4080s

[cursive summit]

They are thinking of using it as a heater in winter months

[pale sigil]

Also why do you need a new card.

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

The entire Discord rn

[cursive summit]

Tbf just do whatever you want

Just don't hurt GPU-chan, she doesn't deserve it

[thick ermine]

Because power management is big around here when you live off grid.

[wispy delta]

5080 or 5070 chat watcha think?

[umbral heron]

Depends on how many different models they'd launch
Up to 2~3 it'd kinda make sense to call them U1/U1 Pro/U1 Pro Max like they did with APUs

[cursive summit]

Chat says nobody fucking knows wait for reviews

[lyric hatch]

I'm just saying Nvidia is happy to sell to AIBs, and my thoughts are they are likely making more money selling to them then making expensive coolers themselves

[pale sigil]

Ah

[cursive summit]

I mean, you can just call the card generation UDNA 1, and the card name would be "UDNA 1 90" or something like that for the models

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-objection-funny-objectionable-ace-attorney-gif-25862709

[cursive summit]

It makes no sense to me why AMD just starts off in the middle of thousands or hundreds when you can just be normal and do singular numbers

[umbral heron]

Oh, they sure are
And EVGA's reaction is just enough to see that it's very much worth it for Nvidia

[thick ermine]

Everything is either solar or diesel. Solar would end up being rendered practically useless by the pc. House is already quite warm in the winter (even when it drops to -40°F) due to powerful and efficient heating.

[cursive summit]

You are underestimating wind

[lyric hatch]

yeah those AIB partners get squeezed as hard as they can be squeezed

[thick ermine]

Not cost effective on small scale

[cursive summit]

How, a 1.5-kilowatt wind turbine is like 3 grand from what I'm seeing

Ain't all that different from solar

[thick ermine]

And a 5090 and 14900k setup would use up half of that IF a 1.5kW turbine consistently produced that. Where I’m at, it’s not consistent.

I get about 80% of my power from my 40kW diesel generator

[cursive summit]

Idk how your wind speeds are, but here wind speeds are frequently above 8 m/s

So a wind turbine makes more sense than a solar panel in winter at the very least

[thick ermine]

Also, I’m surrounded by trees which would also hurt the effectiveness

[bold coyote]

let me know if we came to the final conclusion if good or bad

[balmy vector]

The final conclusion is that food….. is kinda tasty

[bold coyote]

depends on the food tho

[thick ermine]

When we get frontal systems, wind speeds can easily hit ~35m/s but otherwise there’s pretty much no wind.

[balmy vector]

Opinion on chicken gnocchi soup?

[thick ermine]

Last windy day was about 2 weeks ago and we got gusts up to 100m/s

[cursive summit]

I'm also seeing there's windmills up to 55 kw you can buy that generate most of that power with just 6 m/s winds

That sounds better than a solar panel to me

Solar is amazing but the large footprint and (so I heard) horrid recycling conditions are something to keep in mind

[thick ermine]

Sounds like they’d be quite big. So cost to just transport up here would have a -ROI for a decade or 2.

[tulip flare]

Im dumb, legit tryna enter my bios, and I need to spam delete button, just asking, the fn key is all the way to the bottom right corner of the kb right (Using wooting60)

[thick ermine]

I live near the arctic circle so during summer, we get on average like 20hrs of daylight.

[tulip flare]

Mabye I am just not spamming fast enough

[cursive summit]

They are rather giant

[lyric hatch]

gets a little windy here sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G07E_DWGiw

[astral haven]

Which averages out vs the winter where you get 4 or whatever

[tulip flare]

Also when I do spam delete key really fast the keyboard just dies out on me and I have to replug

[thick ermine]

Yeah that would be an issue. I’d need a large helicopter to fly it in.

[cursive summit]

A 5.5kW one you wouldn't, and 5.5kW is far more than I'd ever use in a household

[severe phoenix]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ayaneo-3-the-world-s-first-modular-handheld The OLED and LCD are the same price and the OLED has better display specs in general. Are they high?

Who's gonna buy the LCD model for the same price? It's the same everything else, just a worse screen lol

[astral haven]

Some folks have a phobia of oled

[lyric hatch]

ayaneo coming out with different models every week

[thick ermine]

If it doesn’t fit on a UTV, 4 wheeler, or bush plane, it wouldn’t make it to my house without needing to hire a helicopter pilot.

[thick ermine]

My current OLED has over 17,000hrs and no burn in (LG C1 48”).

Don’t know how LG’s WOLED and Samsung’s QDOLED compare when it comes to burn in though.

[astral haven]

Screen on Time? That's quite a lot...

[balmy vector]

Gotta get it to 69,420 hrs

[distant tapir]

My C2 wasn't very far from that

My current CRT has over 10k hours with zero burn-in

[lyric hatch]

702 days of being on is quite a lot

[astral haven]

That sounds unlikely unless the brightness was real low

And usually CRTs are so dim there's not really any brightness overhead that you can turn it down

[digital cliff]

if you hold FN down when it boots up it'll calibrate that as the zero position so in effect you're not holding it

just let it light up before holding it down and I think it'll work out

[thick ermine]

This is the current power on time of it

[astral haven]

Power on is just how long it's been receiving power
That's only the screen on time if you have it running 24/7

[thick ermine]

Weird lighting and letters is just the background because it’s not connected to my pc rn and has the no signal warning.

[vagrant pagoda]

No vrr on the OLED sucks

[thick ermine]

No. That’s screen time. It’s been running since Aug 2021 nearly 24/7 when I’m home, even at night. I’ve got some health issues that I need something to go to sleep to (and tv works decent).

[vagrant pagoda]

Kind of wild they aren't able to get vrr on the oled

[thick ermine]

Technically power on time means time connected to power but lg considers it the screen time

[astral haven]

Vrr on OLED is pain

[gusty kiln]

Vrr flicker goes brrrrrrr

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but handhelds have the most issues with solid framerates, so they benefit the most

How many titles are going to hit 144fps on a handheld

[gusty kiln]

https://i.redd.it/9e8x65w75xee1.png?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[vagrant pagoda]

What cooler on the CPU?

[analog sinew]

600w have to go somewhere

[balmy vector]

Space heater we welcome you once again

[vagrant pagoda]

Also the lack of rear 140 hurts the CPU with towers

[astral haven]

Regardless that's pretty lucky, general monitor electronics start to give up past 10k to 15k hours

[vagrant pagoda]

I ducted my p1 into the psu and it dropped temps almost 10c

[distant tapir]

Is true

[gusty kiln]

https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-test.91081/seite-12

It'd in German so idk

[astral haven]

And no burnin guarantees you were using it at lower brightness

[vagrant pagoda]

You can just read the only English words

And like the 4th on is noctua dhd-15-s

[vagrant pagoda]

They need the 90* mount and point it up

If it clears the ram

[gusty kiln]

Or top mount aio

[vagrant pagoda]

In a torrent ???

[gusty kiln]

Oh yeah

Diff case

[vagrant pagoda]

Torrent has no stock rear fan

So even with the open back a lot of hot air recirculates around the cooler

Especially if you don't mount the psu fan down

I have a p1 which is a bit different but it's more sensitive to airflow

I found in the normal front to back, rear fan was 20c cooler than cooler mounted

Up and down was barely any better

Flipping the psu helped with fanless in both orientations

By 4-5c

The duct from the p1 mounted up and down to the psu was only a few c worse than having the rear 140 with side to side

[gusty kiln]

Oh yeah, I guess the B200 being hard too cool rumor might be true

Since they are basically giga 5090s

[vagrant pagoda]

I think th issue with the torrent is it has too much side and top ventilation that with the stock fans it doesn't have enough positive pressure to vent the heat

Rear and top*

It really counts in the PSU fan to do double duty

So if you have a zero fan or mount the psu pointed up, it hurts a ton

Lots of psus say to mount up for the passive/semipassive

Also they say adding 200rpm to the front fans is enough to cool the cpu

I'll bet all my nickels that moving the front bottom 140 to the rear would fix it

[cursive summit]

That site works like shit, wtf

Lagging as hell

Switched to Edge in case that was just Firefox and it's still.. not working well

[fair gull]

fine for me

might be an issue with routing or cdn availability

it is a german site after all

[vagrant pagoda]

Sure it isnt your browser trying to auto translate?

[cursive summit]

Autotranslate? Does it look like that page is autotranslated?

[vagrant pagoda]

How would I know what your browser looks like?

[cursive summit]

By the fact it's still in german and not autotranslated?

[vagrant pagoda]

You know modern browsers have built in auto translation

It could be trying to do it and failing

[cursive summit]

Which was not activated cause it's in german?

I don't use translators anyways

That page doesn't run well for me on either browser with no plugins that interfere with page operation running

[vagrant pagoda]

It works fine here

Other than when FF tries to translate it

But chrome and FF load it fine

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-astral/images/average-fps-3840-2160.png

kinda surprised by the perf bump even with the same power limit

[slate solar]

https://x.com/finalmouse/status/1882527195433971725?s=46&t=g_yAtIFsGdJXK1SaSKZnNg

Finalmouse (@finalmouse) on X

On January 28th you are going to see the greatest PC gaming product of all time.

X · Jan 23, 2025, 8:33 PM

That’s certainly a take

[vagrant pagoda]

Temp scaling? What were the core temps

[umbral heron]

https://github.com/SoftFever/OrcaSlicer/pull/8103#issuecomment-2612855023

[reef patrol]

I could thankfully setup mine straight into LAN mode. No account or updates.

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TJk_P2A0Iw For those interested in using riser cables

[umbral heron]

I just updated mine to 01.04 because they've added option for offline updates, and did the same

[unkempt lake]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-pcie-slot-q-release-slim-mechanism-may-scratch-your-gpu-first-rtx-5090-affected

Lol

can't wait for the customer induced damage warranty denials

[vagrant pagoda]

That wouldn't effect anything

[unkempt lake]

Asus is stupid tho

They'll deny warranty for stupid shit like this

Even if it doesn't affect anything

[astral haven]

maybe this was a 5d chess move to kick folks off their servers

[sudden imp]

metal pcie cards to stop damage1!1!1!1

[vagrant pagoda]

Lmao

Aluminum core PCB would never fit into the slot

Also wouldn't solve the issue

[rough osprey]

copper

[unkempt lake]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-starts-to-see-scalper-listings-surface-up/

Lmao

[rough osprey]

its just money

worth it

[cursive summit]

This was always going to happen

We'll see if normal stock holds up though

Anyone can just decide to scalp especially at launch, but if stock is normal then who gives a shit about those maggots

[fair gull]

i somehow feel like itll be sold out in hours

[ashen spindle]

minutes

because everyone says they are getting not a lot of stock

[fair gull]

i tried to be optimistic

[unkempt lake]

paper launch go brrr

[ashen spindle]

ehh not really paper launch just costly to make and partners want cards and they know no amount of supply will last anyway

[astral haven]

if nvidia runs out of stock on a $2k gpu that isnt even that fantastic for gaming, thats a really bad sign for future pricing

[unkempt lake]

People are stupid

What do you expect

[astral haven]

people are rarely stupid, you just dont want what they want

[unkempt lake]

i literally buy high end gpus but when you reach these kinds of prices shit just ain't making sense

980-2080_7900xtx were my last 3 gpus

I'm just not interested in paying that much

[astral haven]

🤷 thats not a response to what i said

[balmy vector]

Im just excited for the nidia app to update

[ashen spindle]

they will run out because people arent going to buy it just for gaming

[pale sigil]

Ah yes fluid

I know a section of the internet that will like that

[unkempt lake]

Why not just buy a quadro

[pale sigil]

Because

just for gaming

[ashen spindle]

what quadro exists with gddr7 and blackwell?

[unkempt lake]

well it's gonna release eventually

[ashen spindle]

people that make money with this are the least likely to wait some random months for something to maybe happen lmao

[astral haven]

https://www.pugetsystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/5090_DR_Longgop-1.png

[ashen spindle]

like if you use it for work and you can get a consumer card that does almost the same as a quadro if you dont need the quadro drivers (also yes quadro naming is dead) then nobody is going to wait to pay 5x more lol

[astral haven]

and they might just buy both

this one now and the 64 or 96gb version when it comes out

[analog sinew]

i just wanna play mhwilds man

maybe everyone fights over the 5090 and i can get a 5080

[ashen spindle]

lmao nothing will run monster hunter well

not even the 6090

[unkempt lake]

Game runs like garbage

And looks like crap

Visually

[wheat yacht]

Bro what are these prices

[vagrant pagoda]

Quadro will be 5k+ I bet

Same reason loads of people have 2+ 4090s. If you don't need the vram and it scales, you can do more work with 4 4090s vs a single h100

100% loads of those people will swap to a 5090

The galax single slot 4090 sold out instantly

[wheat yacht]

How do I even get my hands on founders edition cards my microcenter doesn’t have any 💀

[vagrant pagoda]

8 4090s is still cheaper than a single h100

Same with 8 5090s

Downside with the 5090 is you can't use FE cards because of the rotated power connector.

It's why it was so hard to get 4090s

I only have one client doing AI and right now it's just more economical to pay $100 or 200 bucks to lamda a month

But for anybody doing it full time pretty cheap to have the hardware in house

[whole axle]

Is the windows insider good?

if so should i do Dev or Beta channel

[ashen spindle]

Why would you want it

[whole axle]

idk

heard there was fixes

[ashen spindle]

If you don’t know what it does, stay on stable software

[whole axle]

aight

[halcyon moss]

Seriously, stay on stablr

[whole axle]

kk

[magic minnow]

Trying to get a FE is gonna be insane

[steady sail]

Just say goodbye to the FE cards

Everyone wants the new gpu meanwhile me want a 3090

[balmy vector]

Me however wanting to see the Nvidia app update

[steady sail]

What nvidia app update?

[balmy vector]

The one to force games to us the latest dlss and force the transformer

[steady sail]

Ah

[analog sinew]

idc about FE or not

i just want a gpu

[magic minnow]

5090 Astral

[analog sinew]

no i dont want that

[digital cliff]

8800GT from 2007

[analog sinew]

no

[steady sail]

I can gift u a gt1030

[digital cliff]

then I can't help you

[analog sinew]

would it help if i threw a 550ti through your window

[digital cliff]

sure

[wheat yacht]

Insane 3k gpu

[unkempt lake]

I have a 650 ti boost

Is that ok for you?

[analog sinew]

yes

[pale sigil]

I have a 750

[unkempt lake]

I have a moumou gpu

[halcyon moss]

I have a tnt 2

[gentle osprey]

where are these from

[sudden imp]

The 5080 tuf is 1699?

thats no way

Tuf is supposed to be their cheaper "premuimum cards"

[ashen spindle]

tuf is cheaper than their rog strix brands but not the cheapest

[sudden imp]

yeah

[analog sinew]

wasnt there some swappery going on

[sudden imp]

but 1699 seems absurd the MSRP is 999 for the 5080

even with all that

[analog sinew]

prime being below tuf

[sudden imp]

plus gigabytes sff model card

being more expensive ??

with no rgb

its more pricey than the gaming OC

[analog sinew]

yea i dont trust it

[ashen spindle]

could just be regional, doesnt matter much since prices will vary anyway by retailer

[gentle osprey]

Yeah idk how much I trust that list

[ashen spindle]

oh its likely accurate

[gentle osprey]

doesn't even make sense the the ROG Astral 5080 is $900 more but the 5090 one only $800 more

[ashen spindle]

just with it sometiomes being higher depending on region

[gentle osprey]

whats the $100 difference

[analog sinew]

and msi cards are 1.3 even with aio?

and the tuf is supposedly 1.7?

[gentle osprey]

like how is the 5080 astral cost more than the 5090 astral

makes no sense

[unkempt lake]

That's how it's supposed to be

[analog sinew]

its just all over the place

[unkempt lake]

Prime is the budget line

Always has been

[gentle osprey]

Yeah it's Prime, TUF, Strix, Astral

in that order

[analog sinew]

i never understood why they have that many but okay then

[gentle osprey]

Astral is new

[analog sinew]

ah

[gentle osprey]

was just Prime Tuf Strix

and Pro Art

[unkempt lake]

Then they'll have proart later this year

Lol

gotta love having 1 trillion models

[gentle osprey]

Pro Art is basically Strix I'd say or between Strix and TUF

[analog sinew]

yeah and in the end the difference is what, +100mhz oc and a different cooler?

[gentle osprey]

yep

better cooler means you can OC more but otherwise yea

[sudden imp]

The pricing seems weird

[gentle osprey]

Yeah and that list doesn't even have Strix listed

kinda sus

[sudden imp]

The worst part is the founders are probably the best quality price wise

Like the prime has a plastic shroud

[gentle osprey]

the strix has a plastic shroud now too

downgraded

TUF and Astral are the best imo

TUF almost seems better than Strix now

I need to talk to ASUS and ask them how the 5080 Astral is 900 more than MSRP but the 5090 Astral is only 800 more than MSRP

feel like it should be the other way around if anything

[analog sinew]

sure but almost double msrp? hell nah

[gentle osprey]

Yeah lmao thats insane forsure

Pricing itself is ridiculous but the gaps are weird to me

not making sense of the gaps

Last gen made a lot more sense

crazy

[analog sinew]

yea

i have the space so i dont rly care but it is crazy

[unkempt lake]

that's a big moumou

[gentle osprey]

wanna compare it to the 4090 strix

soo if its bigger or smaller

Seems there's more overclocking headroom this time around

[unkempt lake]

@gentle osprey i did see a vid on the astral earlier

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/aaC8JBhY6Rw?si=fsi63V8Mc-j3Ogfo im watching this rn

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/aaC8JBhY6Rw?si=TvHDVfK_fOa2snoD

[gentle osprey]

LOL

[unkempt lake]

omfg

nice timing

[gentle osprey]

okay its the exact same size as the 4090 strix model

just found out

[whole axle]

$2800 for 3 more dos

FPS

W

[gentle osprey]

actually its 7 more fps

and nobody buys these for the OC they do, it's for the design and the cooler

now its 10 fps

1% lows more important

[steady sail]

Worth every penny

[gentle osprey]

[steady sail]

Yeah nvidia is not just a gpu company anymore

They are an AI company more or less

[gentle osprey]

An AI company that sells GPUs

with AI features

[steady sail]

Yeah

[gentle osprey]

and AMD is just AMD i guess

[steady sail]

And charge u like apple does for ram

I mean they selling titan class gpu’s like candy soo

[gentle osprey]

yeah

For some people, $20 is $20 , for others, $2000 is $2000

[steady sail]

And then we gonna reach a point where if u dont have the top of the notch gpu games just wont run at all

[gentle osprey]

Gaming will become more expensive than Race Car Driving

[steady sail]

I mean the gaming industry is dying as well soo

Like for me unreal engine 5 is a very nice tech demo

[gentle osprey]

I wouldn't say its dying personally

The industry is changing

but not dying

[compact relic]

My brother in christ the industry's bigger than ever

[steady sail]

Idk i dont like the AI games

[ashen spindle]

people get laid off and management is mismanaging the shit out of some company but the industry itself is growing

nothing to do with ai games or not

[steady sail]

Okay Indie games are got better and i see more indie games that i would buy but the 3A games just dying in my eyes

[compact relic]

3A have been garbo slop for the past 10 something years now

[gentle osprey]

yeah indie devs are rising up

AAA falling down

[lyric hatch]

That's just because publishers are getting so large that they basically turn into pure profit machines that will do anything to make the number go up every quarter. Even if that means pumping out slop and killing off franchises for short term profit

[cunning charm]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[ashen spindle]

well a few big AAAs do that but since we have less big companies it just seems like its everywhere

ubisoft doing bad things doesnt stop blizzard from printing money with cod

[gentle osprey]

yeah and if it works, these companies aren't gonna change it

[cunning charm]

cod playerbase is dropping fast

[gentle osprey]

people still buy cod and waste money on it

enough for them to keep pumping it out

[steady sail]

With the addition of game pass now its gonna be stable

[cunning charm]

ehh

before theyd make money off battle pass and packs too now all thats changing. less people buy that

[gentle osprey]

I hope less people buy it lol

[cunning charm]

yeah they buy the game but other stuff isnt

[gentle osprey]

They got like $50 cosmetic packs on there

cost as much as the game

[cunning charm]

yepppp

[gentle osprey]

Wish Battlefield would become great again

[lyric hatch]

A good watch that came out recently https://youtu.be/vIb9uUl1-Zk

[gentle osprey]

miss those days

[steady sail]

I mean that’s true for every game now days

[cunning charm]

if this next update doesnt fix warzone ima probably delete it from battle net

[gentle osprey]

yeah some worse than others, COD got some pricey packs tho

[cunning charm]

already deleted it off steam bc shit wont even open on steam for me

it works once every 2 weeks

[gentle osprey]

Hell divers has like $3-10 skins

COD got $100 skins

[magic minnow]

Because the superior cod is the mobile one

[steady sail]

I mean its still not that fucked up like the faker league skin for 500$

[lyric hatch]

Even league of legends which I think had a decently fair model recently just scrapped like every way to get skins for free

[steady sail]

I miss the prime drops

[cunning charm]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-try-buddy-gerry-dee-family-feud-canada-good-effort-it-was-a-good-try-gif-2510110594472157837

[magic minnow]

Yeah I think no more chest for getting S Rank

[gentle osprey]

I hated when Overwatch 2 dropped, no more crates or anything

can't earn anything without swiping

Not that I care much for team based shooters anyway

[lyric hatch]

Really felt like a sequel just so they could make the mtx shop even more aggressive

[wheat plume]

Honestly yah
Cod Mobile is pretty good once you use a controller on it

[gentle osprey]

them cod mobile gamers are diff

[steady sail]

Or just play it on pc via emulator

[wheat plume]

It doesn't support keyboard and mouse

[steady sail]

It does on pc xd

[wheat plume]

But controller works in game but not the UI outside of a match

Oo... Hek

[lyric hatch]

That is one funny thing about PoE I think it's the only game I know that calls their shop the "Microtransaction Shop"

[magic minnow]

I love CoD Mobile only fun iteration

[steady sail]

Yeah but its just skins and stuff

Not like in cod where if u dont buy every bundle u not gonna be ahead of everyone with the broken weapons/attachments on release

[cunning charm]

i have fun in apex

still getting used to it bc i just recently started it but its definitely fun

[gentle osprey]

haha true

POE does it well imo

Free game, tons of content

just spend money on stash tabs if you play the game alot

basically cost the price of a game

[lyric hatch]

I do kind of miss that feeling in games where good cosmetics meant something aside from how much you were willing to spend on mtx

[magic minnow]

Halo 3 with the Hayabusa armor set

[unkempt lake]

Yep

Halo 3 recon

[lyric hatch]

Yeah if someone had recon you know they had to go on a journey for that

[unkempt lake]

i did

[lyric hatch]

Same

[unkempt lake]

Halo 3 is my fav game of all time

Besides pokemon

It is

Special

[magic minnow]

I love Reach the most

[unkempt lake]

Nahhh 3 is better

[green remnant]

Hey.. need some help I’m in distress

So, my birthday was recently and I got a Artisan pad.. but heres the issue. It doesn’t work when it’s placed horizontally, but it works vertically? Like it’ll start jittering my mouse or like my mouse stutters with the tracking, but when I turn it vertically, it works but it doesn’t feel notmal. Someone please help I’m concerned (Artisan Zero Soft)

[green remnant]

Works diagonally too

[ashen spindle]

I dont get what's the issue, afaik lots of artisan pads dont have the same structure in all directions so it makes sense its different when rotating it

[green remnant]

Yeah but it says the zero is the same in every direction, and so why would it work diagonally

[green remnant]

And, I shouldnt have to put it sideways for it to work bro

I should be able to have it horizontally and itll work

[vivid vine]

Sounds weird buy a Xray pad problem solved

[green remnant]

I dont got the money for that ive been wanting this pad for a while and it’s not working normally 🥲

[ashen spindle]

well idk what the pad advertises as, or what mouse you use or if there is something else that factors in

[vivid vine]

Never understood the hype behind it, it seemed everybody who praised it came from a G640 prior

[vivid vine]

What Im figuring, mouse skates or the lod of the mouse itself

[green remnant]

Do u usually have to replace mouse skates when u get a new mousepad?

The mousepad works when its vertical

[vivid vine]

Personally no, but I also have never played on an Artisan, Xraypad and G-SR user

[green remnant]

Its like the effect of a mousepad being dirty with oils, but only when its horizontal

[wide sun]

I love vertical mousepads

[green remnant]

I don’t want it to be vertical thats the point

[balmy vector]

Contact artisan, they’d probably help

[wide sun]

Oh I didn't read the whole thing

That's weird

[pale sigil]

5 Is best obviously

[unkempt lake]

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/reach-halo-dogtags-remember-gif-27077445

I can tell you're younger if halo 3 is your fave of all time

[unkempt lake]

I'm literally like

2.5 years younger than you

https://youtu.be/0Udn7WNOrvQ?si=dtNCsnW1xDJsF4qq

[urban lynx]

there is halo 3?

[unkempt lake]

also more tech drama just dropped

[pale sigil]

Combat evolved is where it's at

[unkempt lake]

It's great but

Halo 3 is better

Halo 3 has the best soundtrack, the more fun missions

[pale sigil]

Halo 3 is semi god tier

I love it

Its dear to my heart

[unkempt lake]

I'd place CE in like second position

It really was a special game

[pale sigil]

But combat evolved was a masterpiece, well the original version.

[unkempt lake]

It blew my mind as a kid

[lyric hatch]

halo 3 came out at peak time for me to enjoy it fully, too young for CE really came out when I was 5

[unkempt lake]

And also i annoyed my dad all the time

Asking to go on the pc

One day he came back with an xbox and halo CE

And told me to go play with my brother and stop bothering him lmao

[pale sigil]

I played halo ce for many many hours and with my friend nextdoor

Halo 3 I cherish the many many hours in custom games and the many replays of the campaign, however CE is a smidge above for me.

[lyric hatch]

I got about 3 minutes into this video before I was like I don't care this much and quit

[unkempt lake]

same lol

[wheat plume]

Oh boi
An hour

Water and snacks time

Is he not sleeping???
Those eye bags are insane ;_;

Panda looking ass

[distant tapir]

That's just how Italians look

[wheat plume]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[frozen ingot]

he's been looking like that for years, the guy doesn't get much sleep

[unkempt lake]

https://www.techpowerup.com/331599/new-leak-reveals-nvidia-rtx-5080-is-slower-than-rtx-4090

[ashen spindle]

for one we didnt need a leak after seing the 5090 performance to know that

and also its geekbench which is kinda pointless

so doesnt actually prove anything

gb6 literally gains like 25% or something like that if you run it on linux for cpus

[gaunt shard]

u

[vivid vine]

Never realized the 6750 was comparable to a PS5

[distant tapir]

I like how every time someone posts an article Quin will always comment on it

[ashen spindle]

I'm annoyed by the "quality" of so many tech news

[lyric hatch]

There's a lot of people who eat that stuff up (some of those people are in here)

[ashen spindle]

gotta be careful, while the raw hardware is similar, there are big changes like the shared memory and changes that the ps5 has exclusively to it etc.

but yes from the dgpus we have its the closest to raw hardware specs to the consoles

[sudden imp]

linus fighting tips

[bright briar]

indeed halo 2 and 3 were amazing

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-a-weapon-halo-halo2-master-chief-yes-sir-gif-15782861

[bright briar]

that stress on his face is the same one the healers have when they get dove constantly in marvel rivals

(i know such pain)

[distant tapir]

Good lord. The case I bought got a new date for when they'll get it

Immediately cancelled my order. I'll rather buy it elsewhere where they have it in stock but for slightly more money

[ashen spindle]

hey just means you could get it right when rdna4 comes xD

[unkempt lake]

@distant tapir did you decide on what gpu you're gonna get

[distant tapir]

I want a 5070

[unkempt lake]

Also why do you play at some low ass res

You never explained

[distant tapir]

Still not 100% sure if I prefer the black or blue one

[ashen spindle]

gl finding a 4k crt

[distant tapir]

CRT

I don't find 1600 x 1200 to be that low. Low horizontal pixel count because of the aspect ratio sure

But it looks pretty decent in games

I could always run it higher if I want

[unkempt lake]

How does DLSS look on a CRT @distant tapir

I feel like CRT would probably hide the imperfections pretty well

[distant tapir]

I don't remember if I have tried it

[ashen spindle]

would probably look even worse because the clearer image would make the ghosting and artifacts even more obvious lol

[distant tapir]

Since I get pretty good performance on most things with the resolution and my framerate target

[gusty kiln]

spicy

[magic minnow]

Game companies should make games exclusive to GPUs

[distant tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/just-please-stop-chef-south-park-s2e14-chef-aid-gif-21655983

[pale sigil]

Halo 2 has a banger of a soundtrack

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-tyson-yes-smile-glasses-smiling-gif-2265373269127069515

[marsh pewter]

https://youtu.be/PEgHKlIQGXI

[vagrant pagoda]

not the bionicles

[lofty pivot]

for real. I don't mind some of his videos but I don't see why he needs an hour long video for some fairly minor criticisms that could take a couple minutes to go over

the rest of the 57 mins feels like just inflating his own ego while coming off a bit 'holier than thou'

[sudden imp]

I feel like people need to understand nobody’s perfect try to be humble. But always be accountable.

[astral haven]

If you render native at CRT res, 2x with DLSS, it'll probably look pretty crisp

[whole axle]

Is the akitsu a good mouse?

[cedar rapids]

perfect cell is perfect

that rossman guy is crazy 1 hour for yt ‼️

[gentle osprey]

Hey, I like eating tech news

https://tenor.com/view/blueberry-tony-stark-avengers-steve-rogers-gif-22604826

[pale sigil]

Kinda funny knowing the context to the blueberries after all these years

[gentle osprey]

right lol, he was just hungry and casually eating during the scene

was a genuine question

[pale sigil]

It was also how he dealt with his addictive personality

It always reminded me of doctor who though

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tom-baker-would-you-like-a-jelly-baby-jelly-baby-4th-doctor-gif-15603230137602323732

[gentle osprey]

Hahah damn been a min, definitely does remind me of that

[latent mural]

Doctor Who was a banger anyways

by far the best series i ever watched

I remember like when I was 9, every sunday I watched doctor who 👍

[compact relic]

Breaking Benjamin fit the game so well

[shut vector]

how can i switch the uwus switches?

[reef patrol]

You pull them out.

Or take the UwU apart and push them out I guess.

[shut vector]

damn i was scared to just joink them out

[shut vector]

its so dumb i hgo

got one switch out and cant gh

get the others

[iron wave]

Man, the LMG and GN thing is just unfortunate.

I don't have all of the facts so I'm not going to say much other than it needs to stop and they need to focus on real issues instead of eating each other.

[reef patrol]

I don't think anyone does, even either party. It's just become a sad mud slinging contest at this point, and GN seems to want to fight rather than move on.

[iron wave]

Yeah, by real issues I meant stuff outside of the mud slinging. Stuff like NZT or Nvidia lying about performance during presentations, actual issues in the industry not highschool level bullcrap.

[ashen spindle]

eh, we're still getting those reviews and all so I just ignore the rest

and lmg reviews have been a joke for a long time now anyway

[cursive summit]

Yay Louis is ripping into Linus

Man Rossmann has turned a lot more rabid over the years and I respect him for it

No bullshit pro consumer commentary