🔌│tech

[bold coyote]

yeah but the direct translation for valuta doesnt work well cause 1000$ is not the same as 1000€

[vagrant pagoda]

Huh? 2000+200 tax to euros is 2150

Watch the sales they drop base models to 950 all the time, seems to be the bottom of Nvidia pricing guide

[cedar fog]

fair

[vagrant pagoda]

The euro is stronger than the dollar right now

[ashen spindle]

It’s 1936 eur and then you add 19% which is 2303

[bold coyote]

just sharing some examples of price range

these are euros so tax included

[gusty kiln]

Damn didn't expect gainward to be the most expensive

[halcyon moss]

TBF, those screenshots are only one shop

[vagrant pagoda]

Derp I forgot y'all's tax is that high

[gusty kiln]

Have gigabyte fixed their cracking pcbs?

[unkempt lake]

Only ever heard of that on the 4090 without a support bar

@cursive summit https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-official-geforce-rtx-50-vs-rtx-40-benchmarks-15-to-33-performance-uplift-without-dlss-multi-frame-generation

[cursive summit]

Saw it, useless

[digital cliff]

if you think 19% is high, wait till you hear about 25.5% over here lmao

[cursive summit]

RT only

I am only interested in raster only

[unkempt lake]

Denmark has 25% too shit's nuts there

[cursive summit]

25% isn't even the highest, some countries have 28% to 30%

[halcyon moss]

25 is high 😮

[vagrant pagoda]

What the only game you play isn't quake RTX

[bold coyote]

yep but I doubt somewhere here is gonna sell them for a crazier amount cheaper

[halcyon moss]

thats why you use tweakers and google shopping 😉

megekko is nice though.

[vagrant pagoda]

Just fly to the states by a PC and then smuggle it back to avoid taxes lol

[gusty kiln]

Hide the gpu inside your plushies

[halcyon moss]

and have issues with warranty...?

[vagrant pagoda]

I've warrantied 2 pieces of PC hardware ever

[cedar fog]

GPU is the only part I've had fail on me

unfortunately 😕

[ashen spindle]

If you find a flight that’s cheaper than the 10-20% tax on it lol

[cedar fog]

enlist in the military

gacha roll overseas

buy parts on deployment free flight

[vagrant pagoda]

I was talking whole PC not just going XD

Start a business, commit sale tax fraud by buying shit tax free and not using it in a finished product for sale

[bold coyote]

sure if a plane ticket and visa wouldnt cost me the same amount as just buying one here ;D

but I guess the general consensus is, get a 4070 or wait for the 50??

[cedar fog]

you should def just wait for Nvidia n Amd to come out with their stuff

then consider your options

[vagrant pagoda]

Visa? Is is free under 90 days for first world countries

[bold coyote]

its not

[vagrant pagoda]

Where are you from?

[bold coyote]

when I went to the states a few years ago I needed to pay for a visa entry thingie

[vagrant pagoda]

You have to do it before you arrive

But it's free

Been like that for a long time

[ashen spindle]

Esta fee is not fee

[halcyon moss]

esta? that still a thing?

[bold coyote]

esta is not free my friend

[tidal spear]

how can i use one key for two tasks? i wanna have w for normal running but when i deeply press it in it USES u

[vagrant pagoda]

It's good for like 2 years and it's $20

[steady sail]

DKS

[bold coyote]

pretty sure I had to pay like 40 euros or something

still

its stupid

[tidal spear]

ik but i dont understand it

[steady sail]

something like this idk

[vagrant pagoda]

It's not a visa though

[bold coyote]

whatever, I meant it as something that I need to obtain/pay for otherwise Im not allowed in the country

[tidal spear]

doenst work it activtes the keys but onlyy once

i wanna hold them yk?

[steady sail]

out of luck i guess

[halcyon moss]

but i deserve it?

[cedar fog]

that feels like something someone would claim was a bot from nvidia

[halcyon moss]

will i spend the money for it? fuck no

[pale sigil]

Pretty much

That's how I feel XD

If I deserve anything after this entire shit show it's my dream desktop

[cedar fog]

when's Nvidia gonna do that thing where they give us the cards for free and make us pay subscriptions for dlss so we can run our games

[analog sinew]

mindfactory tells me my package gets sent saturday so i make plans to work on saturday and now itll come saturday lol

[rough patrol]

what did you order

[cedar fog]

9800x3d?

[analog sinew]

ssd

[cedar fog]

ah

[analog sinew]

nah i have that already

[rough patrol]

i kinda want to get another ssd

[analog sinew]

yeah i went a bit big on m2s this time

should be enough

[rough patrol]

but at the same time, i should probably save up for gpu and then finish my keyboards

after that i can spend big on storage

maybe a nas

then monitor upgrade

[steady sail]

i need a an ssd as well that 1tb is not enough

[cedar fog]

agreed but I wonder how bad it'd be if I had like a few tb's and I just never uninstalled stuff

[analog sinew]

i wonder if i should even build the pc this weekend

[steady sail]

i have a single 1 tb sata ssd and thats it

[analog sinew]

if i can get a new gpu

[steady sail]

i want another 2tb one

but its expensive as hell

[analog sinew]

the gpus are only 2 weeks away surely ill get one

[steady sail]

im just gonna wait for amd's gpu

[cedar fog]

just buy a mobo with i-gpu call it a day

[cursive summit]

Mobo with i-gpu?

You tried to say something there, it didn't work

[cedar fog]

used to be a thing ;-;

[cursive summit]

20 or more years ago

iGPUs in CPUs have been a thing for decades

Motherboards prolly stopped having them since 90s?

[unkempt lake]

Do it and run off the igpu

Or just

Plop your 2070 in there

[cedar fog]

I was gonna just follow it up with saying it's enough to render the frog

also it was kinda the point of it being ridiculous

[analog sinew]

yeah but then i have to open it again 2 weeks later

i could just not

[unkempt lake]

Swapping a gpu takes 15 minutes

[analog sinew]

lazy...

i know

[cedar fog]

idk me personally

I feels like disrespectful

[analog sinew]

but you underestimate my apathy

[cedar fog]

to taint the new build with a 2070

[unkempt lake]

muh pc has feelings

[cedar fog]

it does

[unkempt lake]

Next up disrespected my 7900xtx by running it with a 9700k for a year

[marsh pewter]

you monster

[cedar fog]

yeah the poor Intel CPU

smh 🙄

[gusty kiln]

Crazy that intel made an 8 core no HT cpu for the mainstream

They immediately knew it was fucked and the 10700k had HT

[unkempt lake]

Basically a 8700k with solder instead of tim

And higher clock speeds

[gusty kiln]

8700k was 6c/12t

[unkempt lake]

8c/8ct is similar to 6c/12t

In terms of perf

[gusty kiln]

There were a hand full of games that had horrible 1% lows on the 9700k

At least at the time

[unkempt lake]

Never really had issues back when it was paired with my 2080 and with the XTX it ran most games really well

Then again i do play at like 5120x1440 so i was heavily gpu bound on the xtx

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[unkempt lake]

And i mostly play single player games

[gusty kiln]

Battlefield 1 was kinda bad with the 9700k

[unkempt lake]

Only battlefield I had cpu related issues with was 2040poo's launch version

And i played... a lot of battlefield

[gusty kiln]

Now it's all delta force

[unkempt lake]

i tried that

Its shit chinese doodoo

[gusty kiln]

Kek

[unkempt lake]

Soulless

Boring

I'd rather just... boot up good old bf4 again and have my bf fix that way

[gusty kiln]

Outpost infinity siege is some fun chinese doodoo

[unkempt lake]

But with the xtx /i7 the only games i got cpu bottlenecked with in were like

Hd2 and uh

[cedar fog]

delta force was fun imo besides the shitty ai who literally cross map shoot you thru solid objects

[unkempt lake]

2077 phantom liberty in dogtown with max traffic density

[cedar fog]

besides that and the ue5 performance

[unkempt lake]

Lowering the traffic density fixed the issue

[cedar fog]

otherwise it just felt like a battlefield game

[unkempt lake]

The shooting felt awful

Going back to what i was trying to say

7800x3d was a nice upgrade in june

But the 9700k still held it's own fairly well and oced like a champ

[gusty kiln]

I wish they would just take apex legend gunplay and make it battlefield. Or large scale titanfall

[cursive summit]

Cool boxes

[gusty kiln]

But maybe tone down the movement

So it's more approachable for casuals

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-doctor-revive-defibrillator-gif-5304585453076024179

[gusty kiln]

I would like to get a big boi nitro card one of these days

[analog sinew]

i aint got no pulse

[unkempt lake]

I used to but then my blood flowed out and not anymore

[fair gull]

man the 5090FE is really sexy

[gusty kiln]

Nitro cards and devil are usually the pinnacle of AMD cards

Devil 13

[analog sinew]

yeah you should buy me one

[gusty kiln]

And hydro devil

[unkempt lake]

Anything's a dildo if you're brave enough

Rectangle dildo lets go

[fair gull]

seeing the cooling dev protos and then the disassembled prod card

really impressive its 2 slot

[gusty kiln]

I do like that nvidia basically made the founders edition but scmooooth

And the angled power connector

[fair gull]

also impressive pcb footprint

[analog sinew]

yeah that pcb is tiny

[gusty kiln]

Lemme put a D15 G2 on that die

[analog sinew]

mm

[fair gull]

if it performs well its prob my next choice of gpu

[analog sinew]

its just such a chunk of money

[gusty kiln]

I thought you just got a new pc

[fair gull]

yes and depending on uplift in a certain game ill just buy another one

[gusty kiln]

[rough patrol]

i really want to get the FE

[unkempt lake]

What happens to the old pc

[analog sinew]

hello kitty?

[fair gull]

gf

[rough patrol]

cause it looks so cool and it's small too???

[unkempt lake]

dude's literally doing what i do with nico

[unkempt lake]

i buy new part i give him my old parts

[gusty kiln]

Maybe 25% faster than 4090

[fair gull]

i dont trust charts

[unkempt lake]

Also @fair gull isn't the only game you play ff14

Which is cpu bound

[fair gull]

well the plan would be 9800x3d/9950x3d + 5090

[unkempt lake]

How about

9800x3d + 4090

[fair gull]

how about no

well

[unkempt lake]

I'm pretty sure you'll still be cpu bound

[fair gull]

depends on the benches

[fair gull]

in 1 game yes

i still play other stuff

but i mainly play ff14

[unkempt lake]

you play OTHER stuff?

Like what

[fair gull]

see

4090 barely runs it

[tribal dirge]

And it's thick, 10 layers of copper at least.

[fair gull]

jk i just recently played mw2/3 and bo6

[cedar fog]

we're you the one playing cookie clicker

soon enough you won't be able to draw enough cookies on screen

def get the 5090

[fair gull]

i dont play it no

[cedar fog]

oh

[tribal dirge]

Vapor chambers do wonders.

[cedar fog]

maybe it was mansen

[fair gull]

i dont think mansen plays it either lol

[cedar fog]

someone here was playing it

akko?

maybe

[fair gull]

but ye currently waiting on mafia the old country and ac shadows

[unkempt lake]

The second delay for ac shadows is odd

[fair gull]

wasnt it to polish the game?

[unkempt lake]

Things were going smoothly as of late

So it's just kinda odd

[cedar fog]

heard it was also cause of some controversy related to release date being a bad day in Japanese history

[unkempt lake]

Like everything at ubi's a shitshow but shadows was going smoothly

[cedar fog]

but that seems dumb since everyday is a bad day realistically

[unkempt lake]

After the first delay

[cedar fog]

I hope they can release another far cry game

[fair gull]

oh it was competition. apparnetly too many games in feb

[cedar fog]

they need all those sales

[fair gull]

now its only facing switch2 maybe and ghost of yotei

[cedar fog]

I've not seen almost anything related to it's gameplay

is it promising looking?

[fair gull]

what

the switch2?

the rest is more #🎮│game talk

[cedar fog]

new ac game

oh yeah fair

[analog sinew]

😴

[fair gull]

hahahah germany decided on an adult video/image content filter

[ashen spindle]

I see we are watching the same wbs video right now

[fair gull]

ye it just got suggested

and im laughing my ass off rn

[analog sinew]

and how are they gonna do it

[rough patrol]

what does this mean

[analog sinew]

damn boomers

[analog sinew]

nothing cause its not feasible

[fair gull]

OSs will need to implement a child filter basically. so it switches to children/teen mode or adult mode

totally safe

[analog sinew]

will work 100%

[rough patrol]

oh so no impact for me and probably not a terrible idea

[tribal dirge]

Does filtering happen OTA or locally on device?

[rough patrol]

at least in concept

[fair gull]

havent gotten to the actual law yet they passed

[tribal dirge]

Because if it's done OTA then I would be very concerned

[rough patrol]

i should probably get a vpn anyway

[fair gull]

not like it affects me

[ashen spindle]

oh no its a terrible idea because how tf are the OS devs supposed to make that work well, also implemented until the end of the year lmfao

[analog sinew]

german politicians vs windmills

[fair gull]

itll prob just be an age entry when the OOBE runs

thats it

[rough patrol]

look, that is apple's, google's and microsoft's problem

not mine

[analog sinew]

imagine if microsoft just stopped supporting germany

and the whole country went tits up

maybe that would teach these idiots

[rough patrol]

i mean to be honest

noone should be using windows anyway

in a perfect society

[tribal dirge]

Apple already filters out mature content in things like photos, iMessage, etc. when you turn it on that is.

[unkempt lake]

what games

[fair gull]

idk thats the reason they gave

[rough patrol]

monster hunter

[tribal dirge]

It's turned off by default though.

[fair gull]

but also more of a #🎮│game topic

[unkempt lake]

Literally doesn't overlap with any other game genres...

That release

[analog sinew]

that sideloading crap sounds legit insane

what are they on

[sudden imp]

If the 9070xt performs the same or slightly better than the 4080 and is priced well. It might be the best value card this generation

I REALLY hope they are going the undercut method this time

[ashen spindle]

they still need to make money so it will depend on how much its costs them

they cant do an intel and make a loss

[rough patrol]

i mean

they can

doesnt mean they will but i'm sure they have plenty of 9800X3D money

[ashen spindle]

they cant, they have a obligation as a public company to make an honest attempt at profit

marketshare doesnt buy you a profit

[lyric hatch]

I'm thinking similar raster performance with worse RT at $50 less like the last few generations

[coarse rampart]

does anyone know how to fix this? cant see the taskbar and its running so slow

[halcyon moss]

Have you tried turning it of and on again

[coarse rampart]

yes multiple times

[ashen spindle]

idk what I'm even looking at since its all blacked out

is that desktop or an app open

[coarse rampart]

all of the black stuff is personal apps and etc etc

[coarse rampart]

the bottom left corner is the only thing i see besides the apps

[ashen spindle]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/use-the-system-file-checker-tool-to-repair-missing-or-corrupted-system-files-79aa86cb-ca52-166a-92a3-966e85d4094e idk try this I guess

[coarse rampart]

thx

[gentle osprey]

https://youtu.be/-p0MEy8BvYY?si=PtKJ7lzsVRyMxKT_

Engineering Masterpiece

3 3rds Blowthrough

[cursive summit]

Late

[gentle osprey]

Sorry I don't wake up and surf the internet right away the same time as EU

[halcyon moss]

Liquid metal? Well keep it horizontal...

Isn't the phase pad stuff better these days?

[rough patrol]

i'd assume nvidia did enough testing on that to make sure

[gentle osprey]

Most if not all the AIB models seem to be using the phase change pads

[rough patrol]

tbf nvidia also put a ton of development into keeping the liquid metal contained and all that

dont think AIB want to do that or can even afford to

[gentle osprey]

yeah it has a triple gasket to prevent the metal from moving around lol

[rough patrol]

triple gasket and a coldplate that is not flat to ensure a good seal and contact

weird ass hacks and all

[gentle osprey]

Yeah they said all orientations work

[rough patrol]

they said they tested every orientation

[halcyon moss]

Heh, I wish Asus did that for my laptop

[rough patrol]

but did they test zero gravity

[gentle osprey]

Seems like they have some pretty robust testing lol

[rough patrol]

the bigger the company the more test equipment

and also the less used it is often

[ashen spindle]

not for 575w gpus xD

[gentle osprey]

ASUS ROG Astral uses one

[ashen spindle]

yeah they arent cramming that into a 2 slot cooler though

[pale sigil]

I mean....

[gentle osprey]

No

3.8 slots

[pale sigil]

Considering how many gpus went on fire last time

[ashen spindle]

yeah so its not as needed to transfer the heat as fast since you have a much larger body that absorbs it

[gentle osprey]

[ashen spindle]

also they have like a gasket style seal around it so you can hold it however

[gentle osprey]

Technically, only slightly more than 8pin

[fair gull]

2 3rds but yes

[gentle osprey]

no, 3 3rds

I was memeing

[fair gull]

then at least use the 4 3rds meme from the vid

[gentle osprey]

I wasn't equipped with 4 3rds, only 3

[haughty plank]

Friends, what do I do if I haven't got an email back in over two weeks from wooting. (Support Request - Non-functional Keyboard)

[vivid dirge]

Just open a ticket no?

[rough patrol]

i think support has a giant backlog due to holidays

[dry dirge]

if I plug my wooting 60he in its keep spams my alt key how to fix?

[rough patrol]

so i would just say wait some more time cause you'll get bumped to the top of the queue eventually

if you start sending more emails you might get moved down in priority

[haughty plank]

Okay thank you guys!

[rough patrol]

of course if it takes longer than a month and a half or something crazy like that you might have to start getting worried but for now just sit tight and see

[haughty plank]

Okay. cuz i miss my wooting 🥺

[cursive summit]

So I'm guessing the RX 9070 series have shipped properly and we actually have updated specs? https://x.com/momomo_us/status/1879541037389250651

188号 (@momomo_us) on X

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PCIe 5 I'm guessing? There were articles just a day ago about PCIe 4

Momomo is pretty reliable though

Difference in compute unit count though is giant, maybe this is the 9060 and 9070?

[unkempt lake]

Seems to match the overclockers uk leak

Listing

Thing

[ashen spindle]

the ocuk thing isnt really a leak they just copy pasted what was in techpowerups database

thats why xt and non xt were the same

[cursive summit]

The more I'm seeing of the new Nvidia cards the more they are looking like yet another disappointing hardware generation, and more of an improvement on features

It feels like Nvidia has reached their hardware ceiling and are focusing on software first, for whatever reason

DLSS and such to do the heavy lifting, instead of focusing on improving their raster hardware

[ashen spindle]

they are a software company first and ahve been for ages

but no they arent reaching hardware ceiling they are just doing whats better for costs

[vapid ruin]

I wonder what 6090 going to be

either that or they full pivot consumer AI accelerator

[magic minnow]

Oppo Find N5

[astral haven]

"nvidia has reached their hardware ceiling" referring to a consumer gpu with around 700mm2 of compute
meanwhile nvidia releases a product that has ~57000mm2 of die area stapled together into 1 gpu
https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/NVIDIA-GB200-72-Blackwell-GPUs-Fully-Connected-by-NVLink-696x396.jpg

[balmy vector]

I thought it was a weird looking pencil for a second

But then it was just a pencil in front

[vapid ruin]

soo thin. Too thin. Maybe when folded it'll feel like a normal smartphone

[unkempt lake]

I already manage to drop my iphone 14 pro like 10 times a day

Dont give me something thinner

[ashen spindle]

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[crimson wigeon]

You don't want people getting free executors? How rude!

[ashen spindle]

I dont want executors I want

[lyric hatch]

They gone

I think my s21 has a good body size to screen ratio

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/peow0-gif-8055986

Exeggcutors where???

[undone sun]

i need help do you think its worth paying 150€ more for the 5070 or can i save some money and get rhe 4070?

[cursive summit]

I see no reason you would need to buy the 5070 when the raster performance looks to be singular digits of improvement

[crimson wigeon]

Wait for reviews and benchmarks then make an informed decision

[cursive summit]

Get a good deal on the 4070S or TiS and it'll be good

You'll get the DLSS improvements anyways, the DLSS4 thing looks absolute wack

[undone sun]

ill do that

[undone sun]

Thanks 4070s is the super right?

[sudden imp]

Thats not a terrible margin of error however it is interesting if it is because of the new design its a higher percentile

[cursive summit]

Yeah the non-Supers are not worth considering unless you find them on some great deal

[undone sun]

alr thanks

[cursive summit]

I guess you can wait for the reviews and see if RTX 50 series don't actually suck ass in raster

So far it seems that they will

[distant tapir]

pc gaming

[analog sinew]

fortnite

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/brazilian-modders-targeting-32-gbps-gddr7-memory-mods-for-rtx-5090-aiming-for-2tb-s-bandwidth

Huh, they already got PCBs?

[vagrant pagoda]

Singular digits for 100s of dollars is Nvidias speciality

[cursive summit]

How are they getting GDDR7 memory modules?

[analog sinew]

it doesnt read that way at all

[cursive summit]

Seems just theoretical podcasting

[analog sinew]

just that they intend

[cursive summit]

But if they can source some fast GDDR7 modules and actually transplant them successfully, that's cool

I dunno what hurdles do you even encounter, is the interconnect a barrier in any way or does it just.. work

[vagrant pagoda]

Also faster modules won't make it faster

Nvidia bios is super locked down

So trying to get it to clock faster chips is unlikely

[ashen spindle]

gddr7 is already much faster so even faster memory might not even alleviate any bottleneck

so even if you can, it first needs to be relevant to make sense

[fair gull]

tbf those brazil modders do it cause they can not cause it helps

[vagrant pagoda]

Bigger chips I get

[ashen spindle]

depends, on 40 series you are bery much bandwidth starved

[fair gull]

same when they did 2080ti vram mods to 22gb or smth

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/crane-brazil-grab-poor-car-gif-17372636

[sharp badger]

Oh actual prices now?

[analog sinew]

oh? 👀

lol

they have the listings made but nonsense price

[fair gull]

yeah i saw those a lot at my old job in distributors

same for eol products that still have listings

[distant tapir]

9000 euro? Damn think about how much you'll save the more you buy

[balmy vector]

I’ll take 3

[analog sinew]

truuu

[trim crane]

imagine 48GB with them 3GB G7 modules

[fair gull]

completely useless for gaming. i dont think it could even use the full 22gb

[astral haven]

multimonitor 8k or something

[fair gull]

the card isnt even powerful enough for that

[astral haven]

no, but you need the ram for all the assets even if you dlss frame gen

[fair gull]

5120*1440 already barely ran 80fps with all the framgen and dlss stuff

[astral haven]

8 fps native, x3 to the cinematic 24

[fair gull]

i can imagine for AI it might be nice

[astral haven]

oh wait its x4 so you can render at 6 fps native to hit 24

[balmy vector]

Faster ai spongebob streams

[ashen spindle]

its still some overhead so better allow a whole 8 fps xD

[astral haven]

yea probably

there really arent games like shadow of mordor any more are there

[fair gull]

i can pooop out a good unoptimized game if you want

[astral haven]

mordor was pretty well optimized

[fair gull]

exactly

[astral haven]

it also was pretty and detailed

maybe vr games

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah but you know the poor developers just have to make things even more pretty and with insane details

[astral haven]

alot of the games have more detail in the original assets, they just dont let you download a version with the higher quality (was a dlc on mordor)

that is detail that sweatshops spent tons of time on, and its really a shame that its just getting thrown away

[magic minnow]

Will we get benchmarks before the 5090 drops?

[analog sinew]

it seems so

[magic minnow]

okok good

[analog sinew]

24th

for 5090

[balmy vector]

Thats good

6 days enough time to decide

[analog sinew]

5080 aib is 30th jan thats shit

[balmy vector]

Cringe

Im still waiting for my ups driver with my case

[analog sinew]

here is a test now hop onto ebay

[balmy vector]

Theyre late!

[fair gull]

you guys like the art iade with my hdd platters?

[unkempt lake]

Shoulda bought a giant larvitar instead

[analog sinew]

so deep

award winning

[unkempt lake]

Also talking about UPS random thing. Nico's family sent him a box full of danish candy and other little things for christmas. UPS said they lost it. Today weeks later it just showed up randomly

Life is mysterious

[astral haven]

seems like they found it

[balmy vector]

ITS HERE ITS HERE ITS HERE!

[magic minnow]

gonna swap to it or wait?

[balmy vector]

I’m doing it now

[unkempt lake]

drops 4080

[tawny hemlock]

tabarnak

[unkempt lake]

calisse t'existe encore toi?

[tawny hemlock]

toujours

[unkempt lake]

t'etais pas ban?

[tawny hemlock]

j'avais été unban en mars

[unkempt lake]

lol

[balmy vector]

Id never

[unkempt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

[steady sail]

drops 5090

[unkempt lake]

drops Nvidia H100

[steady sail]

[vapid ruin]

drops Nvidia GH200

[steady sail]

drops nvidia stocks

[unkempt lake]

drops jensen's jacket

everyone knows the jacket is the most valuable asset at nvidia

[sudden imp]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-the-more-you-buy-the-more-you-save-keynote-2018-gif-12315008507302833354

[fresh crow]

I have a Wooting 80 HE, do you recommend an original Wooting Detachable USB-C Coiled Cable or is there a better one from another supplier?

[reef patrol]

Better cable? No. Good enough? Sure.

[severe phoenix]

Shill

[gentle osprey]

Well it was more issues in a shorter amount of time tbf

[gentle osprey]

I do this with mine all the time, still works great

same with my keyboards

[magic minnow]

I hope the S25U has something cool going on for it

Cause the One Plus 13 keeps calling my name

[lyric hatch]

from the sounds of it pretty much all the specs have been leaked at this point for entire s25 line up

got the snapdragon elite on all versions

but no new fancy battery like the OnePlus 13

[magic minnow]

I wanted to wait for the new pixel to see the chip but ehh I might just pick up the 13 or S25U

[lyric hatch]

also same cameras again

pretty sure hardware wise they haven't changed since the S22 now

[magic minnow]

The vivo x200 pro looks nice as well

[vapid ruin]

12gb of ram

cool, you can fit more AI

mmm, 1b tts, 1b text predictor, 1b voice recognition can all be run at the same time if the OS only uses 6gb

ofc you don't need to run all at the same time and 1b is not really the appropriate model size for certain task but still

a nice upgrade

S25 Plus seems to be a nice middle ground

for me at least

[lyric hatch]

might just stick to the base s25 myself

[magic minnow]

Why not 24gbs

Of ram

[trim crane]

the only thing is the 8 elite

I still have the S20 Ultra I got for a killer deal

[halcyon moss]

S21u here, battery is not so great anymore I feel.. But for the rest it still runs absolutely great.

[analog sinew]

s20fe and yeah same

[lyric hatch]

yeah how I feel with my s21

but the battery is getting to me

[analog sinew]

maybe for christmas a new phone is an option.

[lyric hatch]

I'm lookin at that 23 hours of video playback on the OnePlus 13

[wild coyote]

[cedar fog]

finally

I need that to watch

Nyan Neko

sugar girls

[analog sinew]

i had to see this so you have too

[umbral heron]

Poor motherboard, sneezed too hard

[halcyon moss]

Putting components sideways isn't easy

[reef patrol]

You can tell what happened. They didn't want to shift that clipo around in the south end, so they angled the connector to make it all fit.

[cursive summit]

Seems that Intel Celestial might be a chiplet based GPU huh? Intel has a patent for chiplet GPUs too https://lore.kernel.org/all/[e-mail]/

They'll prolly beat Nvidia to it

[umbral heron]

Wasn't AMD trying to do chiplet GPU first?

[cursive summit]

RDNA3 is a chiplet GPU though, no?

That was just TPU's weird graph, that's the actual one

Having multiple GCDs is the big point of contention as idk if they see any point to that, the interconnect would have to be insanely fast not to introduce latency

[umbral heron]

afaik RDNA4 was supposed to be chiplet-based but it didn't work out
Maybe UDNA, given they want to throw in all compute stuff there

[cursive summit]

What will they chiplet-ify though

[ashen spindle]

If you want a chiplet gpu get a mi300

[cursive summit]

Multiple GCDs? That's a lot of engineering for interconnect

[digital cliff]

celestial gpu?
+144 framerate
+144 shader power
+144 AI
+144 power efficiency
+144 latency reduction

shame they took away the latency reduction stat for WvW only

[reef patrol]

Wrong prefix, lemme reroll those stats.

[cursive summit]

I am still of firm belief that Nvidia will get overtaken by Intel and AMD in a couple years

[digital cliff]

it's not bad for open world but for pvp gaming in particular you'd be better off with Marauder's now

[cursive summit]

Nvidia just raising power limits and stacking more and more cores just kinda shows to me that they are not ready for the next couple of gens

Little raster improvement, mainly just doing DLSS to compensate

[umbral heron]

AI will take care of everything, trust

[cursive summit]

I hope the day comes Nvidia just gets fucked

[analog sinew]

they deserve it for sure

[cursive summit]

Their coolers though, amazing, they got some great people at Nvidia, software wise they are nuts

[digital cliff]

well competition needs to actually even show up to the fight if that's gonna happen

[cursive summit]

AMD is already doing far better in raster, RDNA4 looks nuts in rasterization

I just don't know why they are not upscaling them to high end, prolly heat and power

[umbral heron]

I'll wait for Steve to post benchmarks

[cursive summit]

That's like what, a week until? We'll see

I fully suspect Blackwell is a skip generation and RDNA4 will be insane value

[umbral heron]

Meh
I'll still have 14fps in GW, no matter the GPU
So I'm happy with the one I have

[digital cliff]

that's really just a skill issue though

game looks identical if you just turn down/off the resource-hog settings and you can have 90fps at all times

[umbral heron]

I won't change settings to lower ones

[digital cliff]

I don't like you

[cursive summit]

I honestly don't get why raytracing is so hard to do, Teardown does raytracing for lights and audio and it runs fine on everything

Like, raytracing has been done plenty of times before, is the implementation in game engines just so bad?

[umbral heron]

I'll be spamming you screenshots with bloom enabled

[digital cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-in-i-am-in-constant-suffering-suffering-constant-suffering-constant-gif-24870434

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

you mean the slightly non straight m.2?

[fair gull]

idk seems normal to me

[reef patrol]

It's "normal" but also very OCD triggering 😄

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ&t=1s

Switch 2 is here

https://www.nintendo.com/successor/en-us/index.html

[umbral heron]

I'm disappointed
Really hoped for different name than just Switch 2

[cursive summit]

I mean, that was leaked and was known lel

It was always going to be just Switch 2

I'm sad with the Switch 2 direct being April 2nd and not February

[vagrant pagoda]

Also if it had any other name people would think it's different

[cursive summit]

That basically just means it's launching May or June and that's sad

[vagrant pagoda]

Why sad?

[cursive summit]

Earlier leaks were saying March

But newer ones are saying May-June

I guess that makes sense with the timeline, I was hoping it was March

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah but why? Its a small upgrade, not like it matters that much

[cursive summit]

It's NOT a small upgrade at all

Tbf I just want to play Z-A as soon as possible, and that's on Switch 2

[vagrant pagoda]

Its going to play the same games at slightly higher quality

[cursive summit]

You mean FHD and finally no stuttering?

That's a big thing, Switch 1 could barely run games at its own 720p

[vagrant pagoda]

This is Nintendo you can forget about the no studder

[umbral heron]

Tears of the Kingdom in stable 30fps

[vagrant pagoda]

Unless they release a hd patch lol

[cursive summit]

But yeah the thing looks exactly as leaked and that just makes me question what on earth was happening at Nintendo's supply chain for so many leaks to happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpcsQQvgAQ

Just for new people who look at the chat

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean there's always leaks in the months leading up

[cursive summit]

I've never seen one where manufacturers are openly exhibiting accessories at CES and online

That was just bizarre

[reef patrol]

They made the Switch less unique looking and bland. Congratulations Nintendont 😄

[umbral heron]

Yeah, new JoyCons look... a bit off
I prefer colorful ones from OG Switch

[reef patrol]

I bet this means it doesn't play them at all, and just downloads Nintendo approved Switch 2 versions of games that actually go through a process.

[cursive summit]

I don't particularly like the Switch 1 look, it's just too.. colorful and you can see stains too much

Jet black is nice

[reef patrol]

They completely removed the point of having colour coded joycons.

[umbral heron]

Booooooring
It's Nintendo

[reef patrol]

They could at least have added a trim piece, so your could a kit and swap these.

[umbral heron]

Maybe some of the games that use features that NS2 may not have, like HD Rumble or whatever?

[vagrant pagoda]

Then they couldn't sell you a $50 controller just to change the color

[balmy vector]

Probably all the first party games gonna be playable

[distant tapir]

Did they announce any games with it?

[cursive summit]

Switch 2 will defo have a lot more games

[umbral heron]

MK9 afaik

[cursive summit]

Mario Kart whatever is a launch title, that was shown

[vagrant pagoda]

To be fair all 3 do that shit with controllers

The real question, will they allow exclusives

Or will they force compatibility on new titles

[reef patrol]

Now they won't be selling any, because they're all basically the same fucking colour 😄

At least with the S1 joycons, you had some FLAIR

[umbral heron]

Nah, I think they'll focus on NS2 fully, playing Switch games is just a dangling carrot for people to switch over without worries they'll lose their games

[vagrant pagoda]

Just wait, after 6mo they will have a special edition console with fancy colors

[reef patrol]

I doubt it.

[umbral heron]

Of course there will special editions

[balmy vector]

Regardless now i can play pokemon at 20 fps

[reef patrol]

Ones with more colourful joycons? I doubt it.

[vagrant pagoda]

Maybe 20

Remember pokemon barely dose 30fps on emulator some times

[umbral heron]

I don't
Just look at special editions NS1 had

[vagrant pagoda]

Yep

I have a splatoon console

[balmy vector]

Oh i dont remember but do we know if the screen will be oled or ips?

[vagrant pagoda]

I think ips

Bigger screen for less money gotta be lcd

[umbral heron]

According to previous leaks there will be LCD and OLED versions

[balmy vector]

Hmm

[umbral heron]

But 1080p... it's a tall order
They'd be better off with 720/800p, it still looks great on 8"

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean they are skipping 4 gens of GPU cores

Also that joycon connector is 100% not going to last

[umbral heron]

It's Ada GPU?

[vagrant pagoda]

Like few a months top

[vagrant pagoda]

Lol not even close

[umbral heron]

4 gens from Maxwell 2 though

[vagrant pagoda]

It's likely ampere

[balmy vector]

Gotta keep up with tradition

[umbral heron]

Ah, still not bad
Maybe it'll handle 1080p

[vagrant pagoda]

Supposedly it's based on the orin nano

[vagrant pagoda]

S1 didn't have issues with the connection, just the sticks

[balmy vector]

As long as it’s something wrong with the joycons

We’ll get the double whammy of stick drift and broken connection

[vagrant pagoda]

XD

But yeah an exposed connector like that is wild on a consumer product

[umbral heron]

Please tell me they at least went with HE sticks
They're like cents more expensive than potentiometer ones

[balmy vector]

Probably not

[vagrant pagoda]

Penny on 100 million units is a million bucks

[umbral heron]

But money saved on customer support, RMAs and all that stuff...

[balmy vector]

But, then nintendo wouldnt be able to say they cant swap your exclusive joycons

[vagrant pagoda]

You can write that off

[umbral heron]

Ah, yes, Japan and collectors stuff culture

[vagrant pagoda]

Making the product cheaper is all profits which makes stock go up

RMA and CS are different units so you put that loss on a different page

[umbral heron]

Ooooh

Yeah, that may be the case then

Now, I wonder how long it'll take until first modchip is available

[vagrant pagoda]

See they should teach basic stocks in school

Knowing nvidia we may not need one again

Still can't believe that happened

[umbral heron]

fusee gelee? Yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

Like it took a lot to develop wii and wiiu hacks

And the switch has way way better security

And bam easy mode

[analog sinew]

what happened?

[vagrant pagoda]

Nvidia left a bootloader unlock enabled

And fucking Nintendo used that pin for the joy con

[analog sinew]

lol

[umbral heron]

To unlock bootloader take a paperclip and on your Switch short pin 7 and 10 on right Joy-con port...
It was unreal

[cursive summit]

Eventually they figured out a hardware exploit for the patched Mariko versions

[umbral heron]

Later people figured out you can use SATA cable, and it was even easier

[balmy vector]

The one time nvidia did some good for consumers

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9uK4D35FlM

[umbral heron]

But now, we have very cheap modchip which requires RP2040 and just few cents of electric components

[vagrant pagoda]

V2 modding is super hard

[cursive summit]

Super? Eh, it takes some experience in soldering and a good tutorial

Which are hard to come by but they exist

[vagrant pagoda]

You gotta solder to the soc package

Granted I bet there are drop on PCBs now, but when I looked it was soldering a smt mosfet to the fucking substrate

[cursive summit]

Yes, you do, but I can't imagine that's too difficult with some practice

[umbral heron]

Not anymore
Now you just stick a piece of flat cable into SOC

[vagrant pagoda]

No solder?

[umbral heron]

Nope, just glue 2 pieces of cable inside the console, and that's it

[vagrant pagoda]

Ah yeah way easier

When I looked at getting an OLED I was like noppppeeee

You had to remove two and caps and replace with a smt mosfet and some wires

Direct to the substrate

[umbral heron]

Yeah, people were crazy to figure it out and even wanting to try it

[fair gull]

wait so switch2 at the start of feb?

[umbral heron]

Probably after Nintendo Direct, so... Iunno, Q2~Q3?

[tribal dirge]

should have seen the stuff going on at CES 2025, so many switch 2 stuff lmaoooo

[balmy vector]

Regardless if there’s an oled version im getting that

[cursive summit]

Yes that's what I said

[tribal dirge]

unless it has a 120Hz display and the Z2 APU, probably not

[cursive summit]

It'll have one, eventually lel

[tribal dirge]

60Hz on a gaming handheld is atrocious

[balmy vector]

I mean on launch

[umbral heron]

Meh
Was fine on Deck, was fine on Switch

[cursive summit]

I.. don't know that it will launch with OLED Mango

[balmy vector]

That’s why i hope

[cursive summit]

I remember reading something about OLED but I don't recall the contents

But there's virtually nothing about that so.. eventually, prolly 2026 but we can hope

[balmy vector]

60hz handheld is more than good enough

[cursive summit]

Who doesn't dock their Switch, seriously?

[umbral heron]

Or crispmas 2025

[fair gull]

idk why theyd go back to non oled

[balmy vector]

Me when im outside

[umbral heron]

Almost all leaks agree that they went with LCD by default

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-ground-nero-rage-gif-18336810

[reef patrol]

https://youtu.be/YVViepyE0ug?si=dwodbj2Nzef_XpHp&t=1766
Hilarious to see old presentations from 90s CES. They were showing off early LCD products - and were actually expecting classrooms and homes to have wall sized LCD panels in the near future.

30 years later, and only folks like Linus have that 😄

[halcyon moss]

40 fps is already quite decent on portable

[umbral heron]

I just want one thing from handhelds - (relatively) long battery life

5~7 hours would be ideal

[halcyon moss]

cries in 2-3 hours on steamdeck

[rough osprey]

man i dont wanna till april

[umbral heron]

Lots of indies will chug for 5 hours

Am happy with that

[vagrant pagoda]

Cost

Also the steam deck is way better than the alternatives

Some other handhelds can drop to sub hour

But none can do the 5+

[tribal dirge]

I would hope that nintendo moved away from nvidia Tegra cauz the Tegra X1 in teh original switch is kinda horrible now.

power hungry without much performance

[umbral heron]

They would have quite hard time to keep compatibility to the level they want

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it was top dog then

The shield was literally the fastest arm gpu

[tribal dirge]

maybe back in 2015 yeah

[vagrant pagoda]

It's been speculated for a long time that it's a orion nano based

[tribal dirge]

Orin?

[vagrant pagoda]

Even in 2017 it was

[umbral heron]

But yeah, Deck is really nice to play older/lighter games on the train or in bed without need of being constantly tethered to nearest power outlet

I wish more handhelds went towards this direction

[vagrant pagoda]

There wasn't another option for Nintendo for arm then

[tribal dirge]

true

[vagrant pagoda]

And zero chance that Qualcomm would ever partner with them

Then or now

Remember there was like a year+ where a modded switch was the fastest android handheld lol

[tribal dirge]

Orin will be nice, its got the newer Ampere architecture and you can kit them out with 64 gigs of RAM.

[vagrant pagoda]

Y'all forget how small the power envelope is on a switch

Sub 10w is hard

People wonder why the switch doesn't have voice chat built in. I guarantee you Nintendo does exactly how much power budget that needs and there isn't enough

[tribal dirge]

with the new larger size of switch 2 the power budget can be increased

[tribal dirge]

maybe 15 watts

[pale sigil]

Bezels again

[analog sinew]

i wonder what it will cost

[vagrant pagoda]

Doubt

Batteries haven't gotten 50%+ better

So to keep it around the same size and weight, maybe 10% more battery capacity

[umbral heron]

OG one was what, $300? So $350~450 would be my guess

[mighty herald]

You guys rate the server fans?

[old marlin]

thin

[mighty herald]

Yeah but they push good air

[ashen spindle]

Ampere scales pretty bad at low power so it’s not even as much of an improvement

[old marlin]

considered taking out those dust collectors maybe

[tribal dirge]

not fast enough, must need my 36000 rpm fans lol

[vagrant pagoda]

0/10 not brown

[mighty herald]

They made my gpu go from 75 degrees underload to 56 so I'm happy

[mighty herald]

10000 rpm isn't good enough 😕

[vagrant pagoda]

It's die srunk though

[mighty herald]

Sowwe they aren't noctua

Should we change noctua to noctuah?

[ashen spindle]

Pretty sure it’s on SS8 still?

[vagrant pagoda]

thought it was 7?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9uK4D35FlM

[ashen spindle]

8 isn’t design compatible with anything smaller so I doubt they made a new design

[cloud sand]

anyone know how to fix having delay in building and edits bugging in fortnite? cause my old keyboard is 10 times faster for some reason

[ashen spindle]

#1019723042244534282

[cloud sand]

ive searched there already cant find something that helps me unfortunately

[ashen spindle]

Then make a post there

[cloud sand]

idk if that'll help but ill make one

[latent mural]

I keep struggling to maintain a good fps, but my gpu remains at low usage and decreasing from 1080p to 720p and changing graphic options from high to low does nothing, so I think it’s a cpu issue, anything I can do to improve it or should I consider upgrading CPU, if the latter which should I consider upgrading to?

[clever hemlock]

is the game even using your gpu? which game is it btw

[ashen spindle]

You didn’t say what you consider good fps either

[fair gull]

a multiple of 1

[balmy vector]

So 1

[fair gull]

no 2 is also a multiple of 1 im pretty sure

[balmy vector]

So at least 1 or 2

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-tealc-stargate-gif-4496552

[fair gull]

yes and maybe more

did you also know that no matter which non zero positive integers you multiply itll always be bigger or equal to 1

mind blowing

[balmy vector]

Til, thank you Tony

[fair gull]

ikr

hm now im not sure if integers by default includes negative integers

hm

i may have lied

[balmy vector]

How could you do this Tony

Nobody lies on the internet

For shame

[hollow gull]

Hello, my control key is not working good, when i press it and i release the key sometimes keeps pressed, what can i do? Should i ask for a new kb?

[analog sinew]

switch the switch for a spare that came with it

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-black-will-ferrell-gif-11746818

[bright briar]

i kinda wanna buy it since i need to finish tears of the kingdom but at the same time rather buy a steam deck

[unkempt lake]

nintendo i buy that shit day one

[steady sail]

someone selling a 7900 xtx for 880€

[cursive summit]

Second hand?

Brand new is 878€

[steady sail]

Not in Hungary

[unkempt lake]

You and your damn "not in hungary"

[steady sail]

I still dont know any eu shops

[unkempt lake]

@digital cliff gave you a bunch

Of em

[unkempt lake]

And i'm pretty sure other people did too

[steady sail]

Nope never

[analog sinew]

just use pcpartpicker

set to hungary and bam

[steady sail]

Yeah that again Hungarian prices

Yeah all of them are over a 1000€

An Italian shop

[broken moat]

Have you tried moving from Hungary

[steady sail]

I dont have enough money for that

And its not that easy

[broken moat]

Ripepperonis,

[thick ermine]

It’s because scalpers are trying to milk the last bit they can out of current cards before the new ones drop. Wait a month and prices will go down

[steady sail]

Its not bc of scalpers

[fickle ore]

how much money u need to live in vietnam per month

[thick ermine]

9000 series cards from amd are supposed to drop something like the 23rd of this month

[steady sail]

Thats the thing 880€ for a 2nd hand 7900 xtx is good

As its 250€ off from a brand new

I dont mind if the gpu doesnt have warranty

[thick ermine]

I’ve gotta think of a price to sell my 4080S for once I get my hands on the 5090.

[steady sail]

Ah yes ai card

[thick ermine]

Performance specs are still 2x across the board compared to the 4080S. If I had a 4090 I wouldn’t update.

[steady sail]

Its ur money

[broken moat]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-salute-gif-9387060717664171089

Good luck

[steady sail]

I still think its useless AI card

[broken moat]

Personally same 5000 series not looking great

[astral haven]

probably still cant run my monitor without compromising settings :/

its probably the best currently possible, but the best isnt enough

[steady sail]

Like what cp77 path tracing and ray tracing to the max no dlss and crap 6-7 fps difference between the 4090 and 5090

[astral haven]

6-7fps is alot

when you are starting at 12 or whatever

[thick ermine]

You’re really going to just see jumps in ai tech on gpus for a while. Not saying that physical hardware has peaked, but it’s to the point any new hardware has diminishing returns for upgrading. Now what I’d love if for game devs to actually optimize their games for better play.

[broken moat]

Can’t if Ai tech runs the show

Why optimized when Ai will fill in the gap

[astral haven]

diminishing price to performance maybe, but its looking like you get what you pay for out of 5090

[broken moat]

I mean $2000 usd is insane to me

That should have been no more than $1700

[astral haven]

🤷 you get what you pay for tho

[steady sail]

No u dont xd

[broken moat]

Not really if your raster performance isn’t 30% or plus

[astral haven]

if you bought 2 4090s, even in the 3 games left that supported multigpu, the 5090 is still faster

[thick ermine]

Ai is running the show because without it, they’d have a launch saying oh yeah raw performance, we’ve only improved the hardware like 10-15%. That’s just due to them reaching the ceiling with what’s possible with current tech. It wouldn’t sell.

[steady sail]

40 series never had sli support

[astral haven]

explicit mgpu still existed

[broken moat]

I don’t buy it, I feel like we can continue to upgrade in hardware and ai is the cheaper option

[astral haven]

just 2 gens ago we had dual titan rtx as the fastest, that was a solid 5 grand

[thick ermine]

Same thing goes with phones. You’ve got Apple switching from lightning to usbc as their main selling point for new phones because the tech inside has just hit a peak of what’s currently capable

[steady sail]

Yeah and every 90 card is a titan class gpu

[astral haven]

even with ai its barely matching monitors, still need the powa

[broken moat]

What? The Apple iPhone is the most scammed product out there

Cost like what $20 to make

[astral haven]

iphone cogs is around 50%, margin is around 20%

apple makes money on the app store not the iphone sale

[thick ermine]

I’m comparing the upgrades of phones to gpus. Not $

[broken moat]

Yeah but then amd is releasing ms-a2 which blows the Mac mini pro for $100 less

You’re only really going Apple for Pro Art

[astral haven]

and thats super not true, phone images have improved so insanely, storage capacities too, video recording, cell power, satellite, its insane

is the value there? nah
but the tech is gud

[broken moat]

But either way I don’t like the nvidia took the Ai route

[astral haven]

if nvidia took the ai route, the 5090 would be smaller

[broken moat]

We need a GPU that can handle 4k 240 hz with no frame gen and upscaler

[astral haven]

and thats not physically possible

nvidia doesnt make the software, they just take what they are given and do the best they can with it

[broken moat]

It is I’m hoping the 6000 series or UDNA from AMD can do it

[astral haven]

cope

literally expecting gpus to get 4x-5x faster in a year?

[broken moat]

I ain’t coping im just sad nvidia is going to be another apple

[sharp badger]

Embargo of the 5090 lifts on the 24th and the 5080 on the 30th for those interested

[gentle osprey]

Seems neat

[broken moat]

Where are you just buying the name and not performance

[steady sail]

Remember covid pricing of nvidia cards yeah they are the apple of gpu’s

[astral haven]

"another apple"
meanwhile nvidia

launches fastest graphics card by a long shot
so fast that amd gave up before even seeing it

[gentle osprey]

AMD lost, get over it

[astral haven]

512b bus on 30g g7

32GB of vram

[steady sail]

Calling a titan class fast is not surprising

[astral haven]

yea you arent surprised because nvidia has consistently made the best with some very rare exceptions

[gentle osprey]

it's removeable

[steady sail]

Why do you think they released the 3090 instead of another Titan named card ?

[astral haven]

because they were planning on releasing a titan then gave up and redirected the titan chips to AI

[steady sail]

And the best gpu’s was always the 80 class not the 90/Titan cards

[astral haven]

no

the most balanced maybe

but the titans were always the best except for the 1080ti
1080ti was insane

but it was only insane because you could staple 2 of them together kinda well

[gentle osprey]

and they know the 1080ti was the best and make sure it will never happen again

[astral haven]

yea and so what nvidia did is they pre stapled them together for you

[gentle osprey]

basically

[sharp badger]

Debating just prolonging my 3080 another year because i can run the games i've wishlisted currently and just build a new PC next year

[astral haven]

and im gonna wait since i cant afford both a 5090 and a deckard yet
but maybe ill save enough for it

[gentle osprey]

If you're running the games you want perfectly fine, no reason to upgrade

is it 10 or 12gb 3080?

[sharp badger]

It's the 10gb sadly but it just works fine

[gentle osprey]

Yeah 3080 still solid

[sharp badger]

And with upgrading everything i'd get a newer PSU for the Gen 5 cables which would be nice

Just feels like a 5080 Super is coming with 24gb vram

[steady sail]

I just wanna upgrade my gpu as the 6700 xt is struggling in 1440p

[steady sail]

Yeah they gonna release that

And with closer performance to the 5090

[sharp badger]

So X3D, faster & more ram + a 5080 super etc.

[broken moat]

I went from 5700xt to 7900xt

[gentle osprey]

Idk how much I'd bet that a 5080 Super will be closer to a 5090, the 5080 is pretty cut down

[broken moat]

Playing 4k tho nice crispy 60 fps

[gentle osprey]

and Supers usually aren't that big of a jump

[steady sail]

Im either want the new 9070 xt or just a 7900 xt or a non-xt 9070

[astral haven]

512b to 384b is going to hurt alot, super or ti isnt getting 512b bus

[steady sail]

As cpu wise im still fine

58x3d still kicking greatly

[gentle osprey]

Exactly my point lol

[astral haven]

oh i see misread oops

[broken moat]

Akko I was able to oc my 7900xt to almost a xtx performance it’s a great card

[gentle osprey]

Nah you good

[astral haven]

reply still works tho lol

[gentle osprey]

yeah lol

[sharp badger]

Could just get a 5080 and upgrade nothing else but feels like that 16gb vram will be obsolete ''fast''

[astral haven]

lol

i think folks really overblow how vram capacity gets obsolete

[gentle osprey]

Highest I've seen current modern games go for me is slightly above 12GB VRAM

at max settings

[astral haven]

its really not that painful to run low vram amounts any more

[gentle osprey]

I agree

[astral haven]

le r9 nano is still going as strong as it can, and its more limited in what games it can run (janky drivers and slow core) than its 4gb of vram

[gentle osprey]

I would say 8GB is finally getting to the point , depending on which games you play and settings, is becoming an issue

My friend with a 3070 complains every now and then on some games

[steady sail]

amd oem 7900 xt for 690€

[sharp badger]

The current psu i've got can't also power a 5090 because i've only got enough to feed a 3x 8pin would just rather upgrade everything and get either a bigger case or go sff next year

[astral haven]

sure but also you can just not crank settings

[gentle osprey]

Yeah ofc, which is why I said depends on settings ofc

[steady sail]

My friend with a 3070 and a UW 3440x1440p monitor

[gentle osprey]

yeah idk about that lol

[spiral plume]

here we go, the "RT and external power" simulation is working so i have a plan on how I'll put the different components and code for the switch I shown

mmmh the gpu talk i see

[gentle osprey]

run while you still can

[spiral plume]

i feel like i cut the chat :/

[gentle osprey]

nah its tech

[astral haven]

i think folks vastly underestimate how decent an experience you can get on such a nice gpu

remember folks be playing on steam deck

[sharp badger]

Yeah

SD2 when

[steady sail]

Yeah i cant get high-end tier gpu without saving up for 3 months

Or atleast 2

[gentle osprey]

if referring to the 3070 @ 3440x1440, it's definitely possible, I just wouldn't want to run that personally

considering I have had a 3070 and an Ultrawide

[sharp badger]

Mafia & Doom might be the most ''demanding'' games but still think that the 3080 should handle it

Stalker 2 has been running fine too, sure a few crashes and such things but it still needs optimizing

[gentle osprey]

Love stalker 2 even tho it has issues

Modder Community is great

[sharp badger]

Yeah nexusmods ftw

[gentle osprey]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/484 If you want your game to look like the trailers or like a movie use this, probs best if you have a 40 series tho

[lyric hatch]

VRAM "issues" are overstated, got people saying the 5080 is doa because it only has 16GB of VRAM

[sharp badger]

The UETools have saved the playthrough lol

[gentle osprey]

Lol what

Didn't realize people were saying that

[sharp badger]

Many would've wanted it to be 20gb+

[gentle osprey]

20gb would've been nicer obviously but it's Nvidia

Can't expect them to be like AMD

[sharp badger]

Yeah

[astral haven]

nvidia is pretty consistent at putting exactly the amount of vram that works for what it can run well and no more

[ashen spindle]

that works for what it can run* at the time of the cards release

dont look at a gen or two later, just buy the new gen then!

[astral haven]

nah, consoles are a stationary target, its a full console gen before stuff stops running

by then tho the card is too weak to do good

[ashen spindle]

oh you can still run it but you will get games that force you to lower settings just because of vram

[astral haven]

rarely "just"

[ashen spindle]

It happened multiple times each of the last gen

[broken moat]

5080 is doa when the 5070 ti exists

[ashen spindle]

that makes no sense

[astral haven]

name 1

[ashen spindle]

uhh think last of us was the last one HUB found to run into vram issues on some 30/40 series

[astral haven]

and you could turn a setting down that just reduced vram pressure alone and that fixed it?

[ashen spindle]

cant check rn but I think it was textures/RT/resolution that caused it so changes there would help

[lyric hatch]

https://youtu.be/L8bg9coF6AA

You mean this game

[ashen spindle]

dunno cant check rn just in break between raids

just remember hub had something like that in their videos some weeks ago

[lyric hatch]

One of the worst ports on PC that had stuttering issues on all gpus

[astral haven]

wasnt just vram that was an issue on that title
1080

4k

real wonky, and sure a 1060 3gb aint gonna run it, but the limiter isnt vram there

[wheat yacht]

Don’t they do that for all their cards except their flagships

[gentle osprey]

think Hogwarts Legacy had VRAM issues

[wheat yacht]

I really do wonder if Nvidia is going all out on their 90 cards

[astral haven]

obviously not, but they are going all out for servers

but none of us are spending house prices on our gaming pcs

[sharp badger]

This was in 2023