🔌│tech

[iron wave]

Yeah that's the only thing people seem to be complainging about with it.

Like they see systemd and blow a massive gasket....

[smoky frigate]

having used linux before systemd was on the scene, it did a great deal of decluttering the ecosystem

[iron wave]

Oh yeah I am from the pre-systemd times as well, it's great.

I used init.d before that and it was trash.

[smoky frigate]

why people flipped their shit so hard back then is still a mystery to me

[pale sigil]

Thats more like it

well, except the upload.....

[iron wave]

Slow, but that ping leads me to belive it's not fiber.

Looks DSL like.

[pale sigil]

its 4g

[iron wave]

Oh wow.

Cell modems are crazy.

[smoky frigate]

speaking of systemd, setting DefaultTimeoutStopSec=0s in /etc/systemd/system.conf is the best setting ever, it finally stopped the buggy shutdowns and happens nearly instantly

[iron wave]

I have yet to encounter buggy shutdowns with it.

[pale sigil]

gotta love the hospital wifi also

[iron wave]

My biggest issue is when a device has multiple NICs sometimes it will take like 5 minutes to start up because it's waiting on all of them to come up...

[astral haven]

turn off pxe??

[smoky frigate]

that, on the other hand, I have never seen once

[iron wave]

That's not a systemd thing, that's a pre-boot thing.

[astral haven]

it happens a bunch with servers but you just turn it off in bios

[iron wave]

This is a different issue.

The old

waiting for iface enl0ps1 1m20s...

or whatever.

It's probably a me issue, but it's generally not a huge issue so I haven't looked into it much.

[astral haven]

yea thats pxe

[iron wave]

No it's not.

[astral haven]

also called "network boot"

[iron wave]

PXE is done doing it's job after the kernel takes over.

[astral haven]

oh you meant the opposite of what you said here then?

[iron wave]

PXE is litterly a pre-boot thing.

Therefor it can't be related to systemd.

I do need to figure out how to use PXE for some work stuff though, it would be super nice to be able to use iPXE for booting Windows/Linux installers/live boot images over the network.

[astral haven]

ah so the issue is a systemd thing, and its happening post boot

[iron wave]

Yes.

[astral haven]

those are from it not getting dhcp responses on the interfaces

[iron wave]

Yeah.

But at least one iface does get one.

[astral haven]

each interface needs an ip

only one gets a gateway ofc, but they all need an ip of some kind

[iron wave]

Yeah if you want to use them.

[astral haven]

no up them if you dont want to use them?

[iron wave]

Because that's the default and it's only been on machines that won't be turned off very often so I never bothered to look into fixing it.

[astral haven]

although it should assign itself an apipa and continue with boot, and wait for a response

[iron wave]

ssh is super nice, I can work on stupid stuff in a different room on a laptop and I don't have to deal with my desktop fans spinning up.

[umbral heron]

You can turn off your PC without getting up from bed

[iron wave]

That's just called tripping the breaker with a paper clip.

[steep creek]

lol

[umbral heron]

I may have set up the whole Home Assistant and bought some ESP32s and smart bulbs and what not to control my room when I'm too lazy to get out of bed

[iron wave]

I wonder what sorts of janky crap you could do with an EV that has a reversable inverted to run loads off of the car. Imagine senging 240VAC out of phase into a 120VAC circuit.

[umbral heron]

Oh yeah, AC from different sources always play nice

[iron wave]

I do wish my car had V2L, but that's not going to be a big deal.

[steep creek]

oh yea smart lights are nice for laziness. next i’ll need one of those smart curtains from ikea

[iron wave]

I have some Hue lights.

[steep creek]

same they’re great

[latent mural]

good old times using that chat

max age was 99

140 with html or css editing skills

and that thing bugged over the limit cap even cheating

[umbral heron]

I have some nice tapo stuff, it lives in 10.4/16 subnet where it will never see the internet

[latent mural]

8 years fly by

[pale sigil]

Ayyup

[iron wave]

Hrm, what would be the correct way to do make ; make install where the second command would not run if the first errors?

[pale sigil]

Filian uses Linux

[latent mural]

can you read it

[umbral heron]

make && make install
&& only runs the next command if previous returns 0

[pale sigil]

@thelvadam

[steep creek]

gudenau you have been summoned by a certain keyword

[iron wave]

Huh.

[pale sigil]

@empty wren

[pale sigil]

Yes filian

[empty wren]

Odd

But interesting

[iron wave]

Oh eww, the Python tarball starts with P instead of p.

[empty wren]

Lol

[iron wave]

I suppose [some list of commands seperated by &&] ; echo $? is a decent way to just run a bunch of stuff and report the last result?

[latent mural]

Did you guys knew

I created the (/ џ_џ)/ (T-T)/ (y-y ) emojis

ppl were like "nobody gonna follow that or is not gonna catch"

[iron wave]

Those are not emoji they are emoticons.

[latent mural]

well no shit 3 whole generations of it came out

[latent mural]

indeed

I created emoticons.

[iron wave]

Shoutout to when you had to "hack" your iOS devices to show the Emoji keyboard.

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it should return exit status of last executed command

[tall wasp]

Is wootamation bricked for anyone else or is it something on my side?

[latent mural]

https://tenor.com/view/mobpsycho100-anime-gif-20880329

and nobody knows

[steep creek]

best to ask in #💻│wootomation

[latent mural]

I am rooted into all your minds

your braincells belong to me

which does not ammount to much

but is something

[iron wave]

What's my password?

[umbral heron]

12345679

[iron wave]

Wrong.

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[steep creek]

“no_filian_allowed”

[alpine patio]

12345678

[iron wave]

You had one shot.

False positive.

[latent mural]

🙄

dammit, they reseted the servers or what, the profile code is still there so that's sus

I see why

https://tenor.com/view/senku-dr-stone-serious-anime-what-gif-8214341971148338067

sometimes you wonder if killing all of them wouldn't just make things easier

well well

[steep creek]

just mentioning this is tech talk

[latent mural]

[iron wave]

https://tenor.com/view/vaughnpena-gif-27076347

[steep creek]

profile code?

[iron wave]

The LFS backup is nearly a gig, not too shabby.

Hey @marsh glade do you know what's up with these false positive bot messages I'm getting?

Oh.

That timing though.

[umbral heron]

tar zxvf $1
mkdir tempdir
cd tempdir && bash && cd -
rm -rf tempdir

Like so?

[iron wave]

That wouldn't glob the file and it won't find the name of the extracted directory, but yeah that's the right idea.

[pale sigil]

It's right after I put it into sleep mode

Waiting for video to upload....

Does anyone have any idea what this could be

[latent mural]

I have online syndrom

can't go to bed sleep

working hard for 10 hours plus working out after dinner and still not sleepy

[umbral heron]

This is #🔌│tech

[latent mural]

was thinking of open and clean my laptop but that would mean 2 am awake

[latent mural]

online syndrom

[iron wave]

Looks like a laptop to me.

[latent mural]

know what else is a laptop

https://tenor.com/view/pixelplace-gif-24586548

[pale sigil]

Omg I think it's the sd card on the side

[iron wave]

Not my best friend.

I might do a big stupid and make a package manager.

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[umbral heron]

mkdir tempdir
tar -zxvf "$1" -C ./tempdir
cd tempdir && bash && cd -
rm -rf tempdir

And run with script.sh archive0[1-9]{2}.tar.gz for example

[iron wave]

Wouldn't you also need the flag that removes the top level dir from the archive?

In that case the glob is pretty safe as long as you can check for multiple files.

Eh, checking for a space should do it right?

[umbral heron]

--strip-components=1 should take care of top-level dir, I think

[iron wave]

tar -xf --strip-components=1 "$glob" -C ./tempdir

[iron wave]

Yeah, just did a tar --help | grep strip -A 2 -B 2.

AB are super useful on grep.

[umbral heron]

Oh, man pages would work too
It's 1am already and my brain is already in safe mode

[iron wave]

file="$i*"
pattern=" |'"
if [[ $file =~ $pattern ]] ; then
    echo "Glob matched multiple files"
    exit 1
fi
mkdir tempdir
tar -xf --strip-components=1 "$file" -C ./tempdir
cd tempdir && bash && cd -
rm -rf tempdir

Maybe?

[iron wave]

Eh, --help comes to mind first.

        === Summary of results ===
      2 FAIL
   5214 PASS
    134 UNSUPPORTED
     16 XFAIL
      4 XPASS
make[1]: *** [Makefile:671: tests] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/sources/glibc-2.40'
make: *** [Makefile:9: check] Error 2
2

Probably fine.

Running bash in a script should keep env vars right?

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it should, running new shell from another one keeps env vars

[iron wave]

That's what I figured.

Oh yeah no nano here.

Pfft, tar didn't like that arg order.

The glob is also wrong, eh.

I'll do it manually.

[umbral heron]

Maybe like so?

for i in "$glob"; do tar $i; done

[iron wave]

Two things, I didn't do 1 I did i and the glob didn't work as it just had * in the var.

So I screwed it up all possible ways.

Is there a built-in squashfs like archive that has better performance/size characteristics or is it still just squash?

Dang TCL has a lot of build instructions. https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/12.2/chapter08/tcl.html

[sudden imp]

I just found traces of Armoury Crate on my PC after uninstalling it ages ago. Weird af and theres files requiring system permision to delete them

[iron wave]

It reinstalls itself thanks to Windows installing malware the UEFI provides.

[sudden imp]

NOOOOO

I’ve only got peripherals from them? Does windows 11 force install it???

[steady sail]

No lul

[sudden imp]

Guess I’m going to have to figure out how to uninstall system files

[steady sail]

Try revo uninstaller

[coarse cloak]

the trusty revo

[coral elm]

they have arrived! i ordered both pairs bc why not

[proven valley]

whats the 2nd pair? (i forgor)

[coral elm]

the zero red smt

[proven valley]

oh

[proven valley]

how do u like them

[coral elm]

So far so good just kinda annoying with having to wrap it around my ears everytime i take them off

[proven valley]

youll get used to it 🤷

[coral elm]

yeah

the ew300 are very clean tho i jus unboxed them

[sudden imp]

Might get a usb drive and get their portable version

[proven valley]

did u get a dacamp dongle

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-slayer-stressed-priestess-anime-you-get-used-to-it-gif-13752108

[coral elm]

i got the a11 or smt like that

[proven valley]

did it arrive

[coral elm]

yeah way b4 the iems

i got it all setup already

[proven valley]

alr nice

ja11?

or ka11

[coral elm]

ka11

[proven valley]

alr thats cool

lmk how u like the ew300s compared to the zero reds

[coral elm]

alr

[steady sail]

Another one

[coral elm]

ofc

[coral elm]

so far they seem a lot louder then the reds

[coral elm]

do you know little foam things are for?

[proven valley]

I wouldnt worry about them

[coral elm]

alr

[proven valley]

but its to filter out the treble harshness

[coral elm]

ohj

alr

[thin axle]

So anime girl box = in ear speakers? Do ya pay extra for that? Does it come with anime dvd?

[final flame]

do you mean foam tips?

they're a tip preference, they change the sound a bit, takes a bit off of the treble
people also find them more comfortable

[proven valley]

aacoustic dampeners

they just filter out harsh treble as i said

not necessarily needed imo

since treble isnt that peaky on this set, esp with the golden nozzle

[final flame]

I mean, it is a preference

[proven valley]

they quite literally filter out harshness in the treble

if they find that the highs trouble them

then they can use them

but im just using my own experience as someone who is treble sensitive

[final flame]

variance in the treble between people is very large, some people even have issues with resonances due to insertion depth
it's a preference

some people just naturally prefer the treble to be less prevalent
some people want sparkly treble

[proven valley]

yes

so as i said

if they find that the highs trouble them
then they can use them

not necessarily needed imo

[coral elm]

alr tbh ion even know what treble is

[final flame]

high pitched sounds

cymbals are one of the main things that comes to mind

[coral elm]

ok then yeah imma use them if i figure out how to put them in

[proven valley]

try the gold nozzles first

see if they sound any better to u

[coral elm]

yeah those sound a little better

[frozen ingot]

I prefer an alloy of both for a mix of the two's properties

[distant tapir]

Are there measurements of the differences?

[proven valley]

i believe so

but none on 5128 so

[distant tapir]

That's fine.

[proven valley]

doesnt seem like too much of a difference on 711 kit but difference is quite major when I used both

[distant tapir]

Much more useful at least.

[proven valley]

not really

because I kind of just explained the differences

graph sniffing only tells u so much

[distant tapir]

Graphs are much more useful.

[proven valley]

To an extent

And this isnt even 5128

There are iems that graph well and dont sound as good as they graph

There are iems that graph in a way u might find surprising but once u try them, they sound really good

[distant tapir]

Which ones?

[proven valley]

Not to mention the inaccuracies with 711

[proven valley]

I couldnt name any on the spot but there definitely are some

[distant tapir]

Unless the measurements are bad I don't see how it's possible for them to sound bad if they measure good unless you simply do not like for example the Harman target.

[proven valley]

What experience do u have with iems may I ask

[distant tapir]

Owned only 3. Two of them measured great and sounded great although one of them was broken.

[proven valley]

Ok so look

One thing ill tell u is that an iem isnt purely made of its FR

Anyone whos more experienced will tell u to avoid graph sniffing and actually try it

Because again, graphs only tell u so much

[distant tapir]

What else is there though? Aside from things like distortion. If you say imaging imaging is dependent on a good frequency response.

[distant tapir]

They tell me 90%+ I need to know for iems outside of comfort.

[proven valley]

Ok then continue buying iems purely based on graphs

[alpine patio]

just go to any store

[proven valley]

Im guessing ur sets are like below 80

[distant tapir]

Below 80 what.

[proven valley]

Because ive seen graphs, bought the iems, returned them

Because they simply didnt sound like how i expected

[distant tapir]

Price does not correlate to sound quality in iems. That should be well understood by now. It doesn't matter if they're under 80 (80 what?).

They're not under 80 (USD?) anyway.

[proven valley]

Look

Do u just look at graphs then buy the iem?

I truly hope not

[distant tapir]

Yes.

[proven valley]

💀

Yeah good luck in life bro

[tawdry hazel]

[final flame]

graph sniffing takes skill

[tawdry hazel]

Measurements are completely useless for me

Everything sounds like shit

[distant tapir]

I'd love to hear about the things that graphs cannot tell you in iems.

[vapid ruin]

When there's no iem store nearby, it's all that I can use

besides review

[proven valley]

Ok, so no reviews, no discussion, no buying and returning?

[tawdry hazel]

if you have your own HRTF measured go ahead i guess 😂

otherwise measurements have only made things more complicated for me

[distant tapir]

This comment would only be smart if there weren't correlations between hitting specific measurement targets and a high likelihood of preference for it.

[final flame]

graphs when used properly are a valuable tool that can determine how something sounds
if you know your preferences and are able to read graphs and understand them, they're a powerful tool

[tawdry hazel]

that comment was mostly satirical

definitely didnt sound like it

I apologize

[final flame]

outside of things such as insertion depth and resonance peaks due to it
there's not much a graph can't tell you

[vapid ruin]

Yeah?

[distant tapir]

Iems are super simple when it comes to graphing compared to over-ears. So yeah.

[tawdry hazel]

you're probably right, maybe im just salty that i havent tried an IEM i can actually listen to yet even though i havent even gotten into midfi territory

[proven valley]

They're a powerful tool to an extent

[vapid ruin]

When I look at review, I can't quite understand audio lingo that well, or even take words and try to form a sound from such word

[distant tapir]

Also on the 'ur iems are under 80' comment, price does not correlate to good sound quality. That's audiophool cope. https://x.com/seanolive/status/924053673017249792

Sean Olive (@seanolive) on X

No correlation between price and sound quality from our recent study where 71 listeners rated 32 models of IE #headphones from 19 companies

Twitter · Oct 27, 2017, 11:22 PM

[tawdry hazel]

I've tried
app2
hexa
kiwi cadenza
zero2
quark2
The only one I can handle listening to for some time is airpods pro 2... the rest are really bad for my ears

[proven valley]

What i meant was that i was assuming ur buying iems that have been graphed and reviewed for ages

Because most of the popular under 80 sets are heavily graphed, heavily reviewed, heavily discussed

[distant tapir]

About Quarks, I had the Quarks DSP. Excellent sounding but broken. The DSP chip was fucked up with loads of issues. 10/10 tonality though.

[proven valley]

But why on earth would u purely buy an iem bc of a graph

[tawdry hazel]

I have Quark2 and i think they sound pretty shit lol.

[proven valley]

Ur not even discussing, trying or watching reviews?

[tawdry hazel]

over ears ruined IEMs

[proven valley]

No vents 😭

[tawdry hazel]

funnily enough tonality is still excellent, like the treble is audibly very smooth even in tone generator

but it sounds lo res like really lo res

[distant tapir]

The graph tells me more than any reviewer could (unless the reviewer also includes graphs). But yes I did watch reviews as well. Can't try iems in my country. No stores that really sell them.

[final flame]

some people just prefer over ears due to the way they interact with the actual pinna
iems completely bypass the pinna, so the entire midrange has to be guessed

[tawdry hazel]

yea, currently listening to hd600 wondering if there will ever be an IEM that can compare to this thing

maybe there is for like 1k+

not sure.

[distant tapir]

Expensive = good
For sure will be true next time!

[final flame]

imo it's best to develop a separate preference for iems rather than trying to find a iem that performs like X headphone

[thin axle]

I got tired of waiting for endgame gear to release a new XM2 mouse. So I did the unthinkable, and ordered a Razer Deathadder V3 mouse. I'm curious if the larger size is ergonomic for me. I tend to palm hold my VM600PE. I also want to see if I need the Razer synopsis software running 24/7 or not. I selected the wired one. Because I like wired mouses.

[tawdry hazel]

you don't have the context to assume that I'm referring to how expensive = better

i literally do not care about the kilobuck market

i do not follow it

[coral elm]

moondrop blessing 3

[tawdry hazel]

that thing looks pretty bright ill pass

im very treble sensitive

[tawdry hazel]

i don't think i can lol

mentally

[distant tapir]

Blessing 3 has less bass than I'd like.

[final flame]

these are all the iems I have looked at and somewhat go after the sound I'm looking for
will I try to demo them if possible yes, but realistically this will end up being a blind buy

[tawdry hazel]

like i honestly think id rather not use IEMs and just use headphones when I have the time to

[distant tapir]

Maybe you would like the Moondrop Variations. They're what I use.

[final flame]

not the kind of sound I want, they're more harman ie tuned

[tawdry hazel]

besides the mid scoop i gotta say, variations graph kinda smexy

[distant tapir]

Some of the ones you sent are so too.

[final flame]

I'm looking for something with natural timbre and dynamics

[final flame]

only one that really follows it is glacier, glacier is there because it has estats

[distant tapir]

Variations is the most natural sounding thing I have ever owned. More so than any iem or over-ear I have owned.

[tawdry hazel]

havent tried but megafest i have heard has pretty decent timbre

[distant tapir]

Variations uses estats for treble.

[final flame]

megafest is on that list already

[tawdry hazel]

I know

variations can take a spot as well tho besides the QC its a great IEM

from what I have heard

treble is remarkably smooth

on 5128 measurements

[final flame]

realistically the one I'm most likely to get is the ie900, according to Fc contruct is has some great dynamics

just would need to eq it

[tawdry hazel]

isn't fc construct's preference curve literally just 64a/senn IEM house sound

lol

wait no im thinking of precog

[final flame]

ie900 is also the smallest of the bunch

[tawdry hazel]

ive heard the fit can be problematic bc of it

[final flame]

will likely be the most comfortable

[final flame]

I mostly have issues when it comes to nozzle size

[tawdry hazel]

from what ive heard megafest is insanely comfy

basically a slightly larger (shell) dt200 (🐐)

[final flame]

also this elevation

[tawdry hazel]

the eargain in general just looks strange to me.

akin to 64audio's iems

[final flame]

I like a elevation there on headphones around 1.3k , it gives a more foward vocal presentation

[tawdry hazel]

which admittedly people love

[distant tapir]

I have played around with EQ a lot on my variations and when I turn the elevation down to exactly matching the Harman target it's only a -1,5 dB reduction. I have a hard time telling a diff.

It's basically a nothingburger. 1,5 dB is very little.

[final flame]

all that's really needed

[tawdry hazel]

thats like throwing all the character of the ie900 out the window lol

definitely wouldnt do that

[final flame]

it would be something to need experimentation on, but the main issue is that hole in the midrange
vocals will sound very drowned out because of that

[tawdry hazel]

ie900 is for masochists

that treble scares me

[final flame]

Final E tips seem to reduce it a bit

I would want to tip roll on it too, see what works best

the only other iem that interests me is the nightjar singularity

[tawdry hazel]

🤭

fixed!

[tawdry hazel]

you could also pull down the eargain

that could be a better option tonally prob

[alpine patio]

anyone gone to crinacle's store

im might go there over the weekends

[tawdry hazel]

im here in the US, literally no places to try IEMs where im at lol

[distant tapir]

IE 900 seems quite lo-fi. But it has a big pricetag and is made by Sennheiser so...

[tawdry hazel]

people like the bass on it

[tawdry hazel]

singularity is a great iem from what I have heard

[distant tapir]

Where I live earbuds can't be returned when tried since they're 'hygiene' products.

I get it. Earwax and stuff.

[tawdry hazel]

but theres some alternative that is like

very similar

also 1dd, also has a massive bass shelf, and has almost as smooth treble

[final flame]

I just have a thing for single dd I guess

[tawdry hazel]

634 ears Loak TX-01

Shitty name I know

it has a wooden faceplate option that probably doesnt have as much treble

[final flame]

damn this thing looks like a old school desk in a iem

[tawdry hazel]

yeah its sexy asf

but lead times take MONTHS

[tawdry hazel]

oh it's the TS Closed

my bad the naming is so awful

https://634ears.com/en/products/loak2cl/ these @final flame

[alpine patio]

oh wait they are so much closer than i thought

ill go over as soon as my class ends

[final flame]

interesting, 635 bucks + shipping (proably would be about 40 bucks)

[tawdry hazel]

yep half the price for like 90% of the IEM

and it's absolutely beautiful

[final flame]

other iem I want to try is davinci
it has the so called modern tuning style, which I want to try

really am in no rush for buying iems though, so I want to demo a lot of these things

I want to get speakers first

want to get a pair of lumina V and a nad amp

[lyric hatch]

I wanna get mega5est, probably get it discounted

[still loom]

600 for earphones is bonkers

[solemn marsh]

it only gets worse from there

the things i would do to get my hands on some high end meze headphones...

[still loom]

Headphones I can understand

But earphones? 😅

[solemn marsh]

i mean it kinda makes more sense imo since they're a lot smaller, they have to cram more stuff in a much tighter package

[still loom]

idk about that

[solemn marsh]

and you can spend hundreds on pretty much any line of product if you want to

[still loom]

The speaker is clearly going inside your ear so less sound is required

[solemn marsh]

theres always an "enthusiast" level to stuff

[solemn marsh]

yeah, but tuning it to accurately recreate sound is much harder since again, much smaller package

[still loom]

That's like saying a Superbike should cost more than a Bugatti

Because it's smaller

[solemn marsh]

IEMs also stuggle with soundstage since they're, well, stuffed right inside your head so its hard to make stuff sound "3D" like that

[still loom]

But goes 200mpb

[solemn marsh]

so nicer ones probably do that better

[still loom]

I can understand that it's smaller so maybe harder to refine the sound

[solemn marsh]

idk the best way of explaining it im a few drinks in lol but its like trying to cram a 4090 into a mini itx build, you might be able to do it but you'll have to make some compromises elsewhere

[still loom]

I guess the 600 tag is basically the high end sound refining

[solemn marsh]

oh you sweet summer child...

[still loom]

Still complete bonkers for earphones

I'm aware headphones go up and past $3000

But like.... they're literally 100x+ bigger than an earbud

Using 100x more materials 😂

If you stuck that headphone inside your ear the sound would also be insane

[solemn marsh]

my point is that an IEM is trying to compete with that sound, with much smaller drivers

[still loom]

The much smaller driver thing is a moot point

[solemn marsh]

its much harder to accurately reproduce a digital signal accurately

[still loom]

Because it's literally inside your ear

It's like the difference of getting a $10 IEM vs $10 headphones

The $10 IEM will sound 100x better than the headphones

Because it's literally stuck inside your ear

It blocks all the sound outside

It increases bass

[solemn marsh]

sure, but we're not talking about like bargain bin, we're talking high end audio

[still loom]

Just by the design and blocking of your ear

[solemn marsh]

you're not wrong, but that doesn't mean IEMs just like cap out at 10 dollars and dont get any better from there

[final flame]

iems in certain ways can actually surpass headphones

[still loom]

Point is that the base design of the IEM already makes it superior in sound

[solemn marsh]

i very much disagree

[still loom]

Main sticking point is actually fitting it into your ear 😂

And also ear damage

[solemn marsh]

i think they provide a lot better value over over earheadphones but i think headphones do other things better like soundstage, 90% of the time

[final flame]

ear damage doesn't happen if you take care of your ears

[solemn marsh]

and your i thought your main point was that 600 dollars was too much for earphones, now youre saying earphones are always superior? im confused

[still loom]

What do you mean by take care of your ears? 😅

Don't blast IEMs inside of them?

[final flame]

yes, but last time I checked that goes for every audio product that doesn't have a limit

[still loom]

I just think there's a limit point because of the amount of materials used

600 is probably at that point

But still bonkers

[final flame]

not to mention cleaning your ears also is healthy when using iems

[still loom]

Nothing wrong with someone saying it's bonkers because it is

[final flame]

a lot of it goes into development, same thing with headphones

physical size really doesn't matter when it comes to development

[still loom]

I'm sure you can literally get a $60 pair of IEMs that offer pretty much similar sound

[solemn marsh]

i mean im not saying i would pay 600 dollars for iems, my most expensive headphones are 150 dollars but i wouldnt say its crazy that they exist or that people buy them

[still loom]

From a big audio company

[final flame]

people pay over a thousand for a treadripper, which takes up so much less space
is a threadripper overkill? yes. is it something hobbyists want because it's fun, yes!

[final flame]

price and sound don't necessarily correlate the best, if all you want is tuning sure, you can stick to something cheap
but technicalities are something that aren't just achieved with just tuning

[still loom]

Well I think the point is here that people are going crazy for IEMs using them for gaming now

They're likely not even musicians

But spending hundreds on something that increases the sound of footsteps

[solemn marsh]

is that a problem?

[still loom]

No, but they're not being used in the technical forms that they were "developed" for

[final flame]

personally the gaming market is stupid, but people who use iems aren't just limited to musicians

[still loom]

Ah yes, let me listen to my spotify that isn't even super high quality audio

On my $500 IEMs because yes

Idk, seems weird

[solemn marsh]

i mean, am i crazy for buying reference headphones to use for gaming, even though they're intended for studio use? like why does it matter what something was intended for if it fits another use case perfectly well?

[still loom]

Because the quality of audio in games will not make use of a $500-$3000 IEM/Headphone

It will do the job, no doubt It will sound great, yes

[final flame]

the actual difference between lossless is not that big
it's there, but it doesn't make the biggest difference while listening casually
many people can't tell without knowing what to look for and it takes training to notice those details consistently

[final flame]

while I do agree with this, it's for a different reason
games use hrtf's and other surround virtualization techniques to make positioning sounds easy
this is why what audio device you use really doesn't matter as long as the game audio engine is good, it still can be competitive as long as it's not completely shit

[solemn marsh]

is there a catch im not noticing here? like it has long been established that you can get perfectly adequate audio for like 50 bucks if you wanted to go as cheap as possible, but even if the returns are diminishing past that there are still benefits, and if people have the budget for it, why shouldnt they spend on something they use regularly?

[still loom]

Idk... I just think I'd rather spend $600 on headphones than IEMs but I guess that's personal preference

[solemn marsh]

like i doubt the people spending hundreds on their setups are actually pros that are trying to hear footsteps from 3cm further away, rather they want a more immersive experience that is fun and exciting

[final flame]

there's nothing wrong with having a preference
but each form factor has it's fundamental advantages and disadvantages regardless of price

[still loom]

I've found headphones to be a little bit easier for the surround sound of hearing footsteps tbh 😅

[solemn marsh]

yep... at the end of the day audio really does come down to preference. bassy vs bright, IEMS vs over ears, closed vs open back, people will argue about what is "better" all day without acknowledging that they are all different and have things they do well and others they dont

[final flame]

that could be due to the more open nature of them
while iems are a in the head kind of sound
in the end it's a preference

[still loom]

But I guess that would get better with the higher amount spent 😅 Maybe? Seems like a $50 headset does around the same for surround vs a $1000 headset

In terms of locating which direction it is

Not the quality lol

[final flame]

realistically if you want true surround, speakers are the only way to get it
anything that uses headphones or a 2 channel system will not be accurate, and is based on clever manipulation

[still loom]

Fair I guess

[final flame]

https://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/grell-oae-1-why-you-shouldnt-care-about-soundstage

[still loom]

IEMs are also usually worn upside down and a slight incorrect position in wearing them is easily done

[final flame]

if you want to read a bit more on how soundstage in headphones works

[solemn marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0DLVvDBFTE&t=474s

this is also a great video that kinda proves your point, you dont need to spend hundreds to get "good enough" audio

[final flame]

many pro's use apple earpods, and as a audiophile I consider them to have some of the best positioning
but realistically anything can be used due to how game audio engines work

[still loom]

I just feel for gaming itself IEMs are extremely inconvenient 😅

Getting the IEMs to fit and ensure they are fit correctly making the surround audio locating correct

It's definitely louder, there's no doubt

[solemn marsh]

idk i think you're putting too much thought into it to be honest, as far as performance goes in competitive games your choice of headphones or IEMs isnt gonna make that much of a difference

[still loom]

And I guess people like loud

[still loom]

True, unless you're wearing your IEMs not the correct way (i.e. like normal earphones, not upside down)

Then you won't know where they are coming from 😂

I'm sure some people probably even do this, buy IEMs not realising the correct orientation required inside your ear

[final flame]

in the end these are hobbies, they are for our enjoyment
there's a lot of other expensive ways to spend money on unnecessary things to live, but existing and enjoying life are 2 seperate things

[still loom]

Optimum looking a lot younger only 2 years ago

[final flame]

actually the rotational orientation of the iem in the ear doesn't matter, it'll sound the same regardless
as long as the channels are right, there won't be any difference

[solemn marsh]

still the goat though hes how i found out about wooting

[final flame]

iems like the er2xr are commonly worn upside down despite them being designed for them to be worn down

[still loom]

Very interesting I have no idea how that works but if you say so then sure I guess 😂 That's pretty cool

[final flame]

think of it this way, take a speaker placed in front of you
if you rotate that speaker so the tweeter and woofer positions are swapped, it will still sound the same

[still loom]

Yeah but is the spatial thing going to matter when it's music? 😂

[final flame]

as I've said before, soundstage and positioning are clever tricks when implemented on headphones and iems
they are illusions

[still loom]

Actually let me test this I have some IEMs, I want to hear this 😂

[final flame]

this article covers soundstage in the 2nd part of the article

https://headphones.com/blogs/reviews/grell-oae-1-why-you-shouldnt-care-about-soundstage#section-2

[still loom]

Damn, I was so worried about orientation and it doesn't matter

Eh, I think my ears hate IEMs anyway 😂 Although they do sound nice

[still loom]

Kinda mind boggling

So wait hold on

If you wear headphones upside down....

[final flame]

assuming the seal isn't altered and the driver isn't moved yes

[still loom]

Very interesting

[final flame]

rotating the driver inside of the housing won't change anything

[still loom]

That's pretty cool but also super weird

[final flame]

audio drivers are symmetrical on all sides, and they move linearly
if they don't move linearly they create distortion

[final flame]

tldr the pinna (the outer ear) changes the way you percieve sound coming from directions, it changes the FR of the sound in other directions
and our brain interprets it that way coming from a different direction

headphones and iems don't have the ability to change their FR based on where a sound is coming from, so it will have to be implemented into the music or added artificially

[solemn marsh]

ooo random thought speaking of spending money on stuff that doesnt really matter, my first dac/amp is supposed to arrive this weekend

[final flame]

not to mention our brains also take account for factors such as echo and room sounds
headphones and iems are localized, there is no crossfeeding

[solemn marsh]

im excited to plug it in and hear no difference

[final flame]

[solemn marsh]

i'll probably still tell myself it sounds better so i dont feel so bad about spending the money though lol

[still loom]

Well I guess this probably explains why those IEMs are $600 😂

[final flame]

as far as sources go I always buy them for features and looks
tubes do change the sound so there's also that if you like the sound of certain tube amps

[solemn marsh]

yeah honestly the main thing im looking forward to is having something on my desk to plug my headphones into instead of reaching under the desk directly to my PC

i switch between 2 pairs of headphones more often that i thought i would so im like crawling under my desk multiple times a day lol

[still loom]

oof 😂

[old marlin]

Not an issue if stuff is recorded/mastered properly

[final flame]

it would still by definition be a imitation because it's emulating it within the file

[old marlin]

Not if it is recorded with the funny ears

[final flame]

technically still would be a imitation because everyone's pinna is different

[old marlin]

Otherwise make it so audio players can add custom hrtfs and you are fine

[old marlin]

Tbh I'd worry about that when more songs are properly surround

And not just certain instruments on certain speakers

[final flame]

that's possible, the issue more comes from actually making a custom hrtf
you need in ear mics for that, which there's no real accessible way currently to make your own hrtf

[old marlin]

There are ways to make that more accessible

You will only need to redo it once a decade or less even for perfect results

So it could just be offered as a service

[final flame]

audiologists making side hustle money making hrtfs

[fair gull]

warning tech gore

[reef patrol]

I dunno... it clearly works 😄

I'm sure some company's selling a real version of a bracket like that somewhere.

[fair gull]

pls no

[reef patrol]

Same socket, mobo manufacturer just didn't have the foresight to add a shorter mounting point. Not all motherboards have a dedicated Wifi or short SSD socket.

[fair gull]

just get one of those adapters

[reef patrol]

So... what I just described further up? 😄

[fair gull]

better than a plastic fork for sure

[reef patrol]

To be clear I never said someone sold a fork like product. I was referring to an adaptor like you just linked 😄

Manufacturers do be skimping where they can.

[fair gull]

oh because you said a bracket like that i assume you mean a literal fork bracket

[reef patrol]

I mean... I wouldn't put it past Lenovo or HP to do something that is essentially a fork like push bar 😄

[old marlin]

Looks like an mre spoon

[reef patrol]

Military Grade

[fair gull]

https://unity.com/blog/unity-is-canceling-the-runtime-fee

such a joke

[ashen spindle]

Good change though

[fair gull]

well unless you wanna do anything but games with unity

[umbral heron]

They kicked out Riccitiello, which surprisingly has done nothing than giving himself and the rest of the board bonuses

[ashen spindle]

If you hit 25million in revenue you have custom license contracts anyway if you’re not completely stupid

and it doubled the free threshold for indies

[fair gull]

The Made with Unity splash screen will become optional for Unity Personal games made with Unity 6 when it launches later this year a change i actually appreciate

[scenic galleon]

Is ordering x180 yellow switches nerd? or better switch half to green?

[reef patrol]

What do you need 180 switches for to begin with?

[scenic galleon]

80he - gonna abuse it; so was wondering x7 switch in reserve will be enough for year.

[umbral heron]

Abuse?!
I'm calling keyboard protective services

I say try both L45s and L60s and order 2 packs of whichever one you prefer

[fair gull]

almost certain youre underestimating how sturdy a contactless switch is

[atomic dragon]

Hmmm

[magic minnow]

[thin axle]

I had the 1st gen threadripper. Heats up a room quick, even when idle.

[jaunty rose]

Why does the first microcentre in Florida have to be all the way in miami

[reef patrol]

The state capital? What an odd decision 😛

Oh wait. No. Of course Florida has to be weird and not have the largest city of the state be the capital.

[fierce terrace]

mansen you cold

[jaunty rose]

It’s one of Florida’s most popular city but from where I live it’s a 3 hour drive

I was hoping it’d be in like Orlando which is central Florida and basically the tourist city because it has all the theme parks and stuff

Maybe next time

If there’s no next time I’m gonna save like 2 thousand USD and plan a roadtrip

[latent mural]

Atleast gasoline is cheap overthere

[magic minnow]

10 minutes until I can pre-order my iPhone

[balmy vector]

Oh you’re getting a new one?

[steep creek]

which color are you getting?

[magic minnow]

I went with Black Titanium haven't had a black phone in years

[magic minnow]

yeh yeh

[steep creek]

ah cool

[magic minnow]

Verizon opened the Pre-Orders earlier so getting it on release thank god

[balmy vector]

Oh damn were both on verizon

I only like last year went from an iphone 8 to a 14 pro

[steep creek]

thats a solid upgrade haha

[balmy vector]

[magic minnow]

That is crazy

[sturdy raven]

Now we wait

[rough osprey]

yummy

i gotta get the wallpaper

[balmy vector]

Anything for better wallpapers

[magic minnow]

As I'm trying to find a new one for my Desktop

[balmy vector]

I just grabbed that zip file of the minecraft ones from youtube

Using the fireplace withe the fox

[magic minnow]

I wanted a Surge the Tenrec one :c there's only 1 on Wallpaper Engine

[balmy vector]

[rough osprey]

finally got my iphone 16 pro

[wheat plume]

I really dislike the island being visible in screenshots

Afaik no Android phone included the notch in them either

[rough osprey]

its only on the lock screen

[wheat plume]

No xd
I've seen screenshots from a friend on Safari with the island still visible

[balmy vector]

Yep, only on the lock screen

[wheat plume]

Hmm
Maybe an iPhone 16 change

[steady sail]

my new monitor doesnt have enough weight for the monitor arm

[rough osprey]

is your monitor arm not adjustable?

[steady sail]

Maaaaan

[balmy vector]

Monitor arm

[steady sail]

It is and i fully strengthen the gas spring as well but still no luck

[rough osprey]

you mean weaken?

[balmy vector]

Yeah you weaken first then adjust, then strengthen to lock it in place

[steady sail]

No

The monitor not heavy enough lul

[balmy vector]

guess you gotta return

[steady sail]

I fixed it xdd

[balmy vector]

Oh nice!

[steady sail]

And i need to put up another one

Naaah man i had enough xd

[digital cliff]

just tape a lead block in the back

easy solution

[rough osprey]

wrong direction?

[steady sail]

[rough osprey]

why your room so dark

[wheat plume]

YOR 😍

Where you get her????

[umbral heron]

Vampire
Hungary not so far from Romania and Transylvania

[balmy vector]

What games do you play?

[steady sail]

i like it that way but overall i just dont have a good lights in my room

[steady sail]

true true

okay my gpu can handle more than i was thinking LUL
CP77 at 1440p on high at 90fps in the city

[balmy vector]

What gpu do you have?

[steady sail]

6700 xt

[sudden imp]

I love iOS wallpapers

[balmy vector]

Ah thats pretty good

[sudden imp]

Is the black titanium a fingerprint magnet still?

[rough osprey]

idk

[umbral heron]

Toldya
6700xt is still a small beast on 1440p

[rough osprey]

oh they got 39w charging

[steady sail]

its time to get some info about the monitor menu why i dont have full access for it

[balmy vector]

What brand is it?

[steady sail]

asus

[balmy vector]

Oh which profile are you on? Some profiles lock out settings usually

[steady sail]

i had to install this shit

[sudden imp]

NOOO

[wild coyote]

That's actually fuckin' wild

Just to change monitor settings...

[balmy vector]

Oh racing profile locks out stuff??

[sudden imp]

I’m never buying asus again

[steady sail]

i uninstalled it already xd

[balmy vector]

I know other monitors lock out settings, but i dont think ive seen a racing preset lock them out

[steady sail]

yeah anyway xd

[pastel nacelle]

Idk

Asus still make fast gpu

[magic minnow]

Artist mode

[steady sail]

i mean maybe the monitor was on racing mode bc i asked for pixel warranty and test soo

its maybe on me xd

[scenic galleon]

almost teared that monitor apart while assembling

asus don't care about build quality these days

[smoky frigate]

I was just looking on my country equivalent of Craigslist for a second monitor to watch youtube videos on, and I happen to find 2 CRT monitors for 10 bux each

and I think yeah, CRTs are old shit, but fuck it if it's that cheap. it'll be fun to play around with on Wayland, and then I junk them when they die

[steady sail]

true xd

[umbral heron]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-24.10-ThinkPad-X13s

[wild coyote]

Lenovo?? On Ubuntu???

Damn

[steady sail]

1440p feels soo good

man that game

[leaden kiln]

I need moar vram

[smoky frigate]

download it

[leaden kiln]

Actually I know you can use vram as ram on linux but that's the wrong way around

[smoky frigate]

I dunno if that's true. windows can offload vram into ram, and linux can't, meaning you have to make sure your card has enough vram

[crimson wigeon]

Both systems can do it

Problem is, performance when doing that is abysmal

[smoky frigate]

I'm pretty sure it can't on linux, but nvidia is starting to implement it

[crimson wigeon]

Ooooohhh right, novideo

[smoky frigate]

ah yeah nvidia problem only lol, awesome

[late grove]

Game developers trying to not use .bmp files for their in-game textures challenge (impossible)

[leaden kiln]

I know for a fact you can use your vram as swap but it's basically a joke because it's almost never actually useful

[smoky frigate]

yeah I checked with a dude who runs a distro, according to him offloading to RAM should be possible but most drivers have problems

so you're probably correct. interesting feature, and a bit silly

oh lol the seller responded, I'll be picking up two Iiyama CRT monitors later today, this will be fun, I kind of missed messing around with these

[magic minnow]

I'm regretting getting black maybe I should have gone white

[sturdy raven]

I’ve had tried different colors over the years but the ended up getting exchanged or returned for black

[magic minnow]

That's fair. I do love how darker it is this time

[sturdy raven]

Apple need to bring back jet black from the iPhone 7 era

[frozen ingot]

I picked a white one this time around because I got sick of misplacing my black one all the time

thing just has a way of blending into the environment

[sharp badger]

I like the ''Natural'' & White ones

The silver sides are nice on the white one

New ultra fast foldable l33t keyboard to keep me busy until the 80HE

[magic minnow]

Lol

[magic minnow]

What case did you go with?

[leaden kiln]

Fan swapped finally

[sturdy raven]

Apple silicone

[magic minnow]

Nice I got a Rhinoshield

[cinder oxide]

Nice figurines

[steady sail]

thanks

[leaden kiln]

I ran out of space to store boxes for like the 5th time
boxes are kinda hatable

[dim vine]

hey guys, i noticed that my keyboard is turning off spontaneous when im not using. I m watching some twich after im not using a while its complett off and i need to plug off and in again. I m Using the Wooting two HE. Any Ideas ?SW is 2.7.2 the same problem with the beta version...

[thin axle]

You using a custom cable?

[dim vine]

yes

[thin axle]

Try the default cable for a day.

Might need a USB voltage booster or a thicker awg cable. 🙂

[dim vine]

ok will check

thank you

[steady sail]

yippe i finally changed my lekker v1 switches to v2 holy difference LOL

[balmy vector]

It turns off when you’re not using it? Check the keyboard settings for the RGB sleep setting, make sure its off

[dim vine]

the whole keyboard is off then

i cant type anything

[balmy vector]

Ah

[dim vine]

not the rbg lights at all 😄

will exchange the cable and try again

[leaden kiln]

i wish id gotten v2s with my new plate, but i didnt know i had a discount on them 😭

[steady sail]

i mean i got it before we had the discount

[thin axle]

Got any spare v2s? 😄

[leaden kiln]

I mostly don't wanna pay shipping again right away 💀

[steady sail]

uhm like 8 piece xd

or 9

from the 70 pack xd

tho i switched from lekker v1's

[hexed dagger]

Mini 37g G pro superlight to go with the 60he+ 👌

[leaden kiln]

honey never saved me a cent but today I saved 5 bucks on linsoul by just googling coupons, surprised that work at all, didn't even have to open any suspicious websites

[sharp badger]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2024/09/12/steam-deck-wont-survive-2025-without-a-significant-upgrade/

[wild coyote]

Just saw that article

[halcyon moss]

The handheld after the deck weren't that much better

[umbral heron]

So, essentially, he completely missed the point about why Steam Deck, and focuses only on performance

[halcyon moss]

Only the absolute new ones are somewhat better

[sharp badger]

With Bazzite being an alternative there's just more options now

Rog Ally X with that battery is also much better now

[astral haven]

not really matching the price to perf ratio tho

[sharp badger]

Depends on which model you buy

[astral haven]

not really?

cheapest alternatives are ~2x the price

[sharp badger]

Yes i saw that & was going to post it

[astral haven]

like its not close

[smoky frigate]

welp, that's 10 bux spent

[umbral heron]

Also - ROG Ally can boost APU to 25W, cool
Can we talk about battery life then? Oh, how conveniently absent from this article

[astral haven]

of all the games to play on crt
factorio?

[smoky frigate]

it works surprisingly well at 800x600

[sharp badger]

Just load Bazzite on it

If i'd buy a SD it'd be one of the OLED ones though

[umbral heron]

OLED is nice, totally worth it

[smoky frigate]

the unit definitely has an issue, it periodically goes dark with an electric noise. the glass body at the tops of these is covered in silicone, I think I'll have to open it up and renew that

[sharp badger]

The Rog Ally X should've been priced at the first Rog Ally price

[astral haven]

every transportation method that takes longer than 2 hours to get places has power outlets available

[sharp badger]

Currently one can get the Rog Ally for €499

[ashen spindle]

What can Valve do to stay relevant?
not care because its not their main product, article done

unlikes xbox or ps they dont just have to refresh to stay around

[sharp badger]

I'd just really want a PSP that could run all PS5 games lol

[umbral heron]

Umm... no. I don't want to be tethered to an outlet while playing in home
I want to play in bed, outside, wherever, and when I'm done just plug it to charge
If I wanted to play near outlet I could just play on my PC

[astral haven]

get a longer cable?

ive never really played with my deck untethered

[umbral heron]

Then why should I even consider a handheld then?

[sharp badger]

The person also stated ''I own a Steam Deck OLED, ROG Ally, and Legion GO. Despite it being underpowered, I still enthusiastically reach for my Steam Deck the majority of the time. That’s simply because it feels better in my hands, and the OLED display is superb. But as more unplayable games get released, that enthusiasm is waning.''

[umbral heron]

I want a low-powered PC handheld on which I can play light and casual games, that's it

[sharp badger]

Which the Rog Ally X can be, with even more power available now from the battery

[umbral heron]

Yeah, if you want ot play by outlet, go for Ally
But there should be an option which is low-powered and with longer battery life - which Steam Deck is

[astral haven]

for the form factor?
you can have usbc cables everywhere you normally use it, and the battery is plenty to last while you are walking between places

[umbral heron]

You're completely missing my point
There should be both options for when you want to play near outlet (which Ally for example is) and low powered-one without that requirement (so, Steam Deck)

[steady sail]

if i had to pick any of them i would go with the deck oled lul, like i just wanna play some light games not 3A games

In a plane ride lol

[balmy vector]

Perfect for emulating pikmin 2

[astral haven]

and you are missing my point, neither of those are what you are describing
both are low power, both are low battery life, but both work fine since you only need to go an hour or two away from an outlet

[sharp badger]

https://youtu.be/kM2RCWdCs8g?si=RU_QTqb5C4THC_vc&t=2156 Getting one of these Rog Ally X for a better price just feels like it's ''worth'' it , can install Bazzite for even more performance

[marsh pewter]

steam os is also probably gonna go public sometime soon

[rough osprey]

yall think switch 2 will ship with oled ?

[gusty kiln]

https://aoostar.com/products/aoostar-wtr-pro-4-bay-90t-storage-amd-ryzen-7-5825u-nas-mini-pc-support-2-5-3-5-hdd-复制

pretty cool little NAS

[halcyon moss]

No hot swap

[astral haven]

thats quitter talk 😛

[steep creek]

lol

[marsh pewter]

no

it’ll probably be LCD

likely for cost reasons

[little rose]

Can anyone recommend me a good mousepad?

smth that’s under 50bux preferably

[sudden hinge]

what are yalls thoughts on the ez60/63 im in-between 60he or ez60/63

ik im in the wooting server so yall are gonna be bias asf but

[steep creek]

best to ask in #🔧│keyboard_modding

[sudden hinge]

ok ty

[digital cliff]

bongocat deskmat

[umbral heron]

Linus seems to be on full-blown war with Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQL-tr6l5yg

[zenith silo]

Won't have wootings software 🤷

[trim crane]

i wouldnt be surprised

[trim crane]

if its all scientific data, with some sort of proof, its truly a feat of engineering, but the software is a huge miss from what i have seen.

[reef patrol]

On a different channel. I mean... That's definitely poking the bear

[trim crane]

honestly, i cant blame him, and generally speaking google and big tech is just 💀

[zenith silo]

Gasket mount is cool too

[trim crane]

exactly, i was refering to the hardware choices both physical and electrical

[zenith silo]

Wonder if the case is compatible

With a custom plate or something

[trim crane]

just the software is left to be desired, however the good thing is they can always do better since software is usually never one and done

[iron wave]

Time to wait forever.

[fallen needle]

My keyboard is like randomly turning off and on fast any idea what to do

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[iron wave]

...

The Python test suit is so flakey that it auto-retries failed tests.

[warm schooner]

https://youtube.com/shorts/299qX3ZjqKE?si=DF5VO4spjadBFRmz

[halcyon moss]

You get that huge ass popup every time you click a link

[heady hawk]

^

[heady hawk]

this is genuinely only for stupid people

and how do you think we as humans progress? by making mistakes. get hacked learn why you got hacked have it never repeat!

i think stupid people deserve a chance to become smarter!

[reef patrol]

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle US gov keeping intel afloat 😄

too big to fail

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/company-news/2024/09/13/intel-solidifies-35-billion-deal-to-make-chips-for-military/

Also Poland https://finance.yahoo.com/news/polands-intel-plant-gets-eu-093407688.html tho that doesnt seem cutting edge node

[ashen spindle]

Yeah but that’s not enough money to keep them alive if there are issues

[analog sinew]

poor intel has to figure out how to make a good chip then :D

[ashen spindle]

Foundry doesn’t care about the chips they need have economic nodes

The money sink is the foundry so they need to have 18A as perfect as possible in the next few quarters so people place orders

[pale sigil]

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-15-restricted-settings-sideloading-3481098/

Lame

[jaunty rose]

Lowkey thinking about getting new gen airpods, so tired of my gen 1’s

[iron wave]

Because the giant popup when you click on any link (that isn't a Discord one [screw your special case on this that's stupid]) isn't good enough. Like, if the person wants to be had that badly they would be tricked by other things that they already have.

[reef patrol]

Discord screwed up either way

[iron wave]

Permitting their own links to bypass the check is pretty minor, but overall it's a great feature.

[iron wave]

I'd be down for this if it affected everything.

[iron wave]

Is there a way to migrate a ZFS pool to larger disks without having to connect them all to the machine at once to create a new pool, copy things over, remove the old one and then move the new one?

[spare wedge]

Nope

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean who else is going fab chips in the us

[spare wedge]

You can’t upgrade them otherwise you’ll lose all of your data

[vagrant pagoda]

You can extend zoools now

Its a new feature

[spare wedge]

That has been a thing for a while

[vagrant pagoda]

Look up raidz expansion

You can 100% live extend a zpool

[iron wave]

How does this work?

[vagrant pagoda]

It still has the same limitations. All disks most be same or greater in capacity

[spare wedge]

Wait oh shit now I onow what you mean

[iron wave]

I'd need to pull a couple of drives, let it repair, pull a couple of drives, let it repair and then expand right?

[vagrant pagoda]

Set feature@raidz_expansion to true

Then just add a disk

[iron wave]

I think I'm on 4x2TB and I want to move to much larger disk.

[vagrant pagoda]

But you won't make it bigger

Just move the existing to bigger disks

[iron wave]

So I would still need to make a new pool if I want to go from 4TB to 20+?

[vagrant pagoda]

Yes

Make new pool

Rsync it

Then swap names

[iron wave]

That's going to be a massive pain.

[vagrant pagoda]

ZFS has a rsync built in

[iron wave]

I'm so glad I have that RAID card I can slap the drives on but I'm going to need to do something cursed to power the drives.

[vagrant pagoda]

ZFS send -R

Do it once to get everything

Then take everything offline, do it one more time

Then swap the names

[iron wave]

Yeah I'm going to read the docs, I'm just trying to avoid attaching all 8 drives which seems impossible.

[spare wedge]

I just use unraid and call it a day

[iron wave]

I'm on ProxMox.

[spare wedge]

I used to use proxmox and use an unraid vm

Passthrough my HBA card and that was it

[iron wave]

Honestly my next restart will probably be debian.

[vagrant pagoda]

Ubraid would take forever

You'd have to add one drive, redo parity, repeat

[vagrant pagoda]

My friend let me introduce you to the Lord and Savior truenas scale

[spare wedge]

That is true but it is miles easier to expand which makes it, imo, better for home use

They also support zfs now but I’m not using that

[iron wave]

I've messed with that one too, I just find managing stuff with lower level tools easier and more intuitive.

Especially since every other thing I want to do requires me to do that anyway.

[vagrant pagoda]

Scale is Debian

[iron wave]

I want a blank slate next time and Debian is essentially that, I'm not using Arch on a server again.

[ivory grail]

hall effect, skateboard bearing mousewheel. Thoughts?

[iron wave]

Optical encoders are pretty good for spinning stuff.

Things like car wheels can get away with hal effect because you only need the RPM at a somewhat low resolution compared to a mouse wheel.

[sudden imp]

So clean

[leaden kiln]

bro hit the 10 pic limit for a single pair of iems

[proven valley]

🫡

[sudden imp]

Have you tested them yet?

[proven valley]

Yep

[dull hollow]

corsair bought fanatec?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MgpYgOEHWw

hopefully they wont butcher the company like they did with their modern cases and be more like how they ran elgato

[distant tapir]

Finally an interesting product.

(It has tuning switches hence the different measurements. If priced well this will probably be a great product)

[sudden imp]

Their recent cases have hot garbage so I'm assumign to make up for loss of revenue they are purchasing another company that will help fix their issues.

Better staff and knowledge.

[dull hollow]

fanatec rn has really shit customer service and major shipping issues

[sudden imp]

Nevermind then

[dull hollow]

they dont even say their items are out of stock, they just keep taking on orders on top of orders which is causing all of this

[dull hollow]

corsair cases fell off since the 4000D

[sudden imp]

I feel like many case companies have fell off really hard recently

[dull hollow]

all you hear now is lianli

[sudden imp]

theres nothing new with AIO's, cases, GPU's, or even fans???

[dull hollow]

case fans are still stupid expensive for no reason

[frozen ingot]

lian li and fractal the goats of cases

[sudden imp]

Hyte has some nice premuim cases but im not a fan of vertical mounting cases

I thought LCP fans would be the next big thing but it really hasn't taken off.

[dull hollow]

isnt there a company thats just blantly copying hytes? i remember a video somewhere about it

[sudden imp]

Oh yea

game max? or something

[leaden kiln]

vertical mount(only sandwhich) my beloved

[sudden imp]

Fractal, Lian Li, Antec (maybe? If they continue with their creative ideas (most recent case for example)), and Hyte have created some reall interesting and premuim cases.

I do feel lian li isn't on the top of their game like they used to be

[dull hollow]

O11 dynamics are everywhere

[sudden imp]

Be quiet even did one, which I will say had some cool aspects.

The whole easy invertability was cool plus the home theater layout.

[dull hollow]

holy bananas

[sudden imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHj169rOaOk&t=1s

When is this going to come out? I wonder how much the damn RGB strip ups the cost.

[dull hollow]

that is one thiccccccccccc case

[dull hollow]

ah the benifits of having a microcenter near me

[sudden imp]

They have great deals

[dull hollow]

oh yeah for sure im just broke

i would also need to get a new gpu if i were to buy this bundle

[fickle ore]

@ashen spindle https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/us-govt-pushes-nvidia-and-apple-to-use-intels-foundries-department-of-commerce-secretary-raimondo-makes-appeal-for-us-based-chip-production

ez

[ashen spindle]

they want people to dual source is all

doesnt change if its shit still xd

[fickle ore]

idc if its shit as long as ppl buy it

kekw

[gusty kiln]

until tsmc arizona ramps up

[fickle ore]

nah its not newest node

[gusty copper]

What is better in performance

(Gateron Jade Switch or lekker 45 v2)

[umbral heron]

Performance is exactly the same

The only difference is sound and travel distance

[gusty copper]

So which one had better travel distance

Has*

[ashen spindle]

neither is better

its preference

[umbral heron]

There's no better in that case
Jades have a bit shorter travel distance (3.5mm) than Lekkers (4.0mm)

Both can be actuated at 0.1mm though

[gusty copper]

Ohh I was wondering that the gateron is better according to high price

Should I actually change the switchs that the keyboard comes with

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[umbral heron]

fwiw Lekkers v2 are really good

Iunno, I feel quite a difference between v1s and v2s

L80

[jaunty rose]

L100 tons

[umbral heron]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear80

Shooo nice

[jaunty rose]

Are you used to heavier switches or do you use toilet keycaps or metal keycaps

[dull hollow]

ceramic?

[umbral heron]

[jaunty rose]

Yeah

[umbral heron]

Nah, I used L60s for quite a while, but I found them too soft for me, I pressed some keys by accident
L80s hit just the right spot

[jaunty rose]

Drop a feather on it and it’ll activate

[jaunty rose]

Thats fair

I use nothing.

I dont have my wooting board.

80he waiting experience

[umbral heron]

You don't even have UwU?

[dull hollow]

i feel like L60s are too heavy lol

im just used to 45's on my old keyboard

[frozen ingot]

ya'll need more finger strength

[umbral heron]

Or can be used as a media controller

[dull hollow]

personally im a 40 gram enjoyer

[jaunty rose]

Considering an UwU so the wait will be slightly easier but than I wouldnt have a use for it when my 80he arrives, would have to force myself to use it even though my 80he would be able to do the exact same thing as UwU

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-not-fun-funny-warning-kidding-caution-gif-15621360

[steep creek]

best media controller ive had

[frozen ingot]

I'd rather buy another rp2040 for $50 bucks to do the media stuff than an uwu

[umbral heron]

I have only 5 UwUs, use them for almost everything
I want to integrate last one with ESP32 to control Home Assistant

[frozen ingot]

more keys, oled display, encoder knob

[umbral heron]

Hol up, since when RP2040 costs $50

[frozen ingot]

https://www.digikey.se/sv/products/detail/adafruit-industries-llc/5128/14635377

since like forever

[leaden kiln]

too swedish

[steep creek]

can get one for 50 usd here too, they're pretty affordable

[frozen ingot]

its an amazing bit of kit for the $

[umbral heron]

Ah, the whole macropad
I thought you meant MCU only

It's not as cute as UwU though

[verbal nimbus]

What’s some good mouse pads around 40 bucks?

[oblique solstice]

artisan zero soft

[verbal nimbus]

Any alternatives? Just looking for options

[sudden imp]

Saturn

[latent mural]

Saturn getting nerfed soon right?

The rings

[verbal nimbus]

Which one

[sudden imp]

Idk

I only know artisan I think start is a bran 😭

[late grove]

https://fxtwitter.com/shitpost_2077/status/1834819366359384111

[unkempt lake]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-paves-the-way-for-Linux-gaming-success-with-plan-that-would-kill-kernel-level-anti-cheat.888345.0.html

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

ehhhh thats way too optimistic

them changing how AC access can work doesnt mean its suddenly in a way that would also work on linux via wine

[umbral heron]

MUAHAHAHA
Fuck yeah!
I don't care if it means if more games will work on Linux or not, finally game devs will have to think how to make a functional anti-cheat in a way other than "stuff everything into kernel"
Thank you Microsoft, thank you Crowdstrike

[ashen spindle]

I mean this is really an article just filled with corpo speak, it could still keep AC code in kernel lol

[umbral heron]

Hopefully not
There's no reason to keep AC in kernel, besides "we are too lazy to think about proper solutions"