🔌│tech

[astral haven]

the build quality is ok half of the time, but half of the time hifiman forgets to screw in a screw or something and you need to exchange it

if you want a headphone you can throw into a wall a dozen times, youll want a sennheiser

[sharp badger]

https://bloomaudio.com/products/noble-audio-fokus-triumph-tws These are kinda interesting

[final flame]

the xmems

[verbal nimbus]

as long as it sounds heavenly and comfortable those are the main ones

[astral haven]

comfort is highly personal, but they have very deep and plush pads

[verbal nimbus]

does the sound get any better for around 100$

or does the HE400se offer it

[astral haven]

not really

[final flame]

unless you get iems, you're really not going to get any better

[astral haven]

they are light on bass, so if you really like bass maybe iems, but those are muuuuch more janky to get comfortable

[verbal nimbus]

im most likely going to get the HE400se thank you for helping

[astral haven]

also they are the openest of open backs, so if you have a noisy room or a highway outside might not be the best option

they also do require an ok amount of power, apple dongle with power limit doesnt cut it, a non nerfed dongle will do great tho

[verbal nimbus]

does it come with a dongle?

do i even need a dongle if im only using it on my computer doesnt the stock cable be enough

[astral haven]

Your computer will probably do fine

Because it's pretty high power, a tiny amount of noise won't be audible

[late grove]

Ultra cheap planars are a dangerous ground to thread.

So good luck out there.

[verbal nimbus]

is surround sound feature something i should be lf in headphones?

[late grove]

If you need a dongle get Fiio KA11. It can power more or less anything.

[late grove]

No.

[astral haven]

No

[astral haven]

I prefer the generic dongles since they come with a USB a to c adapter and are smaller
60mw is enough for almost everything

[late grove]

Having a good chunk of extra power is good for EQ purposes.

Which.. you will definiteyl need for a cheap planar.
I have not heard HE400SE myself. But based on my experience with slightly higher up stuff like Sundara, Edition XS and Ananda.. well let's just say they all sound wonky.

[astral haven]

🤷 its still pretty good
I did use apple dongle with my 400se and that was not strong enough for eq

But the generic cx31993 was perfectly fine

And that was with an impulse response that was pulling the bass up to Harman level

[verbal nimbus]

what is EQ? also how can i tell if my PC isnt giving enough power to the headphones?

[final flame]

eq is equalization, it changes the volume of certain frequencies and can be used to change how a headphone sounds

[verbal nimbus]

which generic dongles?

[astral haven]

Search 384khz USB C
Or Cx31993
Or cs43131

Like this
https://a.co/d/hXayVq6

[verbal nimbus]

i see ty

[thin axle]

Yes!

[onyx blaze]

Idrk where else to ask this but does the key lock remap on wootility require me to toggle it? Or does it lock the key as soon as it’s mapped

[thin axle]

I would try it out, sorry... still waiting for my first wooting keyboard 😢

[empty wren]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-keyboards/if-in-doubt-use-more-lube-wootings-lekker-v2-switches-now-have-tighter-tolerances-and-more-of-the-slippy-stuff-insert-your-own-joke-here/

More of the slippy stuff

[steady sail]

Lul

[unkempt lake]

@ashen spindle native ultra preset with rt 5120x1440 (fsr native aa)

[late grove]

Did you buy this game?

[unkempt lake]

2nd pic is same settings + fsr ultra qualoty<

[unkempt lake]

Free from my brother who works at ubi

[late grove]

Did he pay you to play it?

[unkempt lake]

No?

I'm just curious

[late grove]

Meh, not a good deal then.

[unkempt lake]

I mean i literally just booted it up

Quin just wanted to know how it performs on my xtx

[late grove]

Heh, don't take it too seriously.

I will take every opportunity to take a dump on any new crappy game that comes out.

[unkempt lake]

@ashen spindle ultra preset is basically everything cranked except rt on high

So yeah HW unboxed not testing at native is kinda... strange

[unkempt lake]

I mean... it's a ubisoft game

I expect like the first few hours to be interesting

Then it's gonna get boring

Generally what happens

[ashen spindle]

oh ignore them they just crap on anything because only their opinion matters or something

[late grove]

I am pretty sure ubisoft game means you should not even think about giving it a try.

[iron wave]

That feeling when you're having issues with your printer because there's already filament that you forgot to remove.

[ashen spindle]

in a deadlock match will look at things after

[unkempt lake]

I tried turning on the nvidia pathtracing mode

It crashed xd

Driver timeout lol

[iron wave]

This software is trash

[latent mural]

ima have to return this earbuds cause they hurt my ears x.x

dammit

soundwise they are fine

[gusty kiln]

tip wise or the shell?

can always try aftermarket tips

[empty wren]

Must be an old machine

[iron wave]

Sorta, but they still sell machines with this junk.

[pastel nacelle]

you think they sell good printers in america xD

[thin axle]

Pretty much, Bambu all the way xD

[pastel nacelle]

I have a CDK HP Laser at work.

That thing jams like it's its job.

[thin axle]

My first 3d printer was a monoprice. It was terrible.

[pastel nacelle]

oh filament 3d printers

I just go to my library.

Let it be the governments job to replace it.

[iron wave]

I'm working my way though Voron stuff.

[iron wave]

Don't get a XYZware one.

[thin axle]

Voron and bambu are both Core XY?

[iron wave]

Depends on the model I think.

[pastel nacelle]

Our library has a MakerBot 5 afaik

[fiery lance]

Guys how long does it take to get answer to change my order?

[vagrant pagoda]

@astral haven i need more fiber

[iron wave]

I need to take some time tomorrow to do some research into PCI-e junk.

[thin axle]

24-48 hours usually, sometimes 3 days

[fiery lance]

dam...

[thin axle]

Sounds great! 😄 Have you heard of corexy with linear motors?

[iron wave]

That sounds like two incompatible techniques.

[thin axle]

why? linear motors are a simple concept, typically a set of stacked magnets with a coil that moves around.

[iron wave]

Wouldn't that have to be a different layout than coreXY uses?

[iron wave]

So apparently YouTube is going to add a feature to premium that allows you to skip baked in sponsor segments?

[verbal nimbus]

Is Sennheiser accentum wireless headphones worth it?

[sinful hedge]

how do i check if a set of keycaps is a clone?

there are so many of this one design on the internet that i cant tell which one is the original

[lyric hatch]

whats the set

probably better off asking in #🔧│keyboard_modding

[sinful hedge]

ah

the cyan white one

[lyric hatch]

GMK Cyan is the original I believe - not sure if you'll be able to find stock it's an old set

[sinful hedge]

oh yeah thats it

well eh whatever i'll just wait for the stock on this one

[lunar rampart]

w

[sinful hedge]

thank you

[thin axle]

Peopoly Magneto X 3D Printer, to be fair, the Z axis uses stepper motors :/

[stuck nebula]

Hello, wanted to buy a wooting but I wanted to know if the 60he is in 8kHz and has the rappy snappy like the 80he

[reef patrol]

1khz, all of our boards have the SOCD features

[stuck nebula]

Ok ok thank you

Gonna buy the 80 for the 8kHz I think

Btw, the 8kHz can make the game lag like 8kHz mouses ?

Some games doesn’t like the 8kHz

[digital cliff]

no

and btw the difference between 60he and 80he is half a millisecond

if you think that matters then you're welcome to wait for the 80he, if not, you can just get the 60he and not lose out on much

[stuck nebula]

I feel the difference between a 1k mouse and a 8k mouse, but don’t really know if i’m gonna feel it on a keyboard

I like 60% keyboard, but if I can have the best for like 30 more bucks

[compact relic]

Isn't this already a browser plugin?

[idle hinge]

Will I have to put the keys on the board by myself? Never done that

[reef patrol]

Yes.

[idle hinge]

Oh shoot. Gotta watch a tutorial then. Also it says „Pre order“ How long does it take usually

[quaint dew]

bro it's keycaps

there's literally a hole on the cap and you push it down on the switch

[idle hinge]

ah easy then

[quaint dew]

not like switches there's very little that can go wrong

[fickle ore]

Nothing surprising https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Intel-Core-13-14th-Gen-Instability-Update-Future-Products/m-p/1627440/highlight/true#M77071

https://www.notebookcheck.net/TSMC-announces-revival-of-glass-substrate-R-D-challenging-Intel-s-lead-in-advanced-packaging-tech.881519.0.html

Yay intel leading at something

[ashen spindle]

Not until they are actually to market with it first

Being the first to look into something doesn’t mean you are leading since someone else could get it done first

[unkempt lake]

Sup quin

[fickle ore]

leading at research.. leading at something doesnt need to be tangible

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle any laptop news?

[fickle ore]

@pale sigil next week Lunar Lake

[ashen spindle]

He’s just trolling he has a new one already ignore him

[steady sail]

should i buy the XG27ACS monitor from asus or should i stay with the predator XB273U

[fickle ore]

if not Oled then the answer is no

[steady sail]

Either is oled

[steady sail]

I dont have money for oled screens xd

[fickle ore]

then save and stop spending on legacy tech crap 😛

[reef patrol]

legacy

[steady sail]

For my use case oled screen is not worth it maybe when become cheaper

[fickle ore]

you're wasting $399 on that XG27ACS that you could save for a $800 OLED which is half way to.

just mow your neighbour backyard a couple more times

[steady sail]

Idk the charm of an oled screen for me is not here at all xd

[fickle ore]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[distant tapir]

Cope

[fickle ore]

That cumulative radiation exposure from CRT must be nice, tho I had mine for 15+ years so I guess I can't say anything

[compact relic]

well if you dont care about having darker blacks you dont need an oled

[steady sail]

Even if i would buy an oled screen im using gamma most of the time soo its gonna be greyish anyway xd

[distant tapir]

It's that or oled sample-and-hold motion blur eye cancer and I choose the former.

[compact relic]

if you do but the price is too high, just wait a year and they'll come down

[fickle ore]

It isnt just darker blacks. Other colors have more contrast too. Depth perception differences are unreal.

Let alone total latency reduction

[nimble canopy]

text rendering is worse on oled right now

[compact relic]

ik ive used oled

just not worth the price tag atm imo

[steady sail]

I dont notice latency on monitors lul

[distant tapir]

I wonder what subpixel layout LG's future oleds will have that don't use a white subpixel.

[reef patrol]

OLED money is for people with fat wallets. I can buy my current monitor twice and change for that kind of cash 😄

[fickle ore]

so is upgrading from IPS to another IPS not worth it, $ wise. Just invest into VTI

[compact relic]

the latency wasnt a noticeable difference

[steady sail]

Im using a VA panel xd

[fickle ore]

same crab

[distant tapir]

[fickle ore]

just mow a few lawns? 😄

[compact relic]

get a ips then if you're on a budget

[reef patrol]

That takes time. Time is money. And ain't no lawns needing mowin' here.

[distant tapir]

Akko weren't you recommended a VA a few days ago? That one is pretty good.

[steady sail]

Uhm not me

[nimble canopy]

homless? just buy a house

[distant tapir]

Hmmmm... I'm pretty sure it was you.

[steady sail]

I dont remember maybe i was just talking about it

[distant tapir]

@steady sail here

[fickle ore]

yea house and oled same thing

[fickle ore]

Sell WoW and D4 gold? 😄

[steady sail]

Yeah thats not me xd

[reef patrol]

That takes time, time is money...

[distant tapir]

Look at the message above. He was talking to you.

[compact relic]

isnt wow gold pretty worthless now

[steady sail]

Yeah but i never said i need a VA panel i want ips but the dude sent me samsung va panels

[fickle ore]

Oh yes, time. If average OLED is ~4ms latency reduction overall. Calculate the cumulative time difference vs average IPS over 6 years of lifetime with running 16 hours a day, and convert it to $$ lost!

[distant tapir]

The first link is IPS.

[reef patrol]

Wake me up when OLED is beyond its burn-in issues, and is priced like my VA panel.
Then we can discuss whether or not anything is "legacy" 😄

[late grove]

Has been for years now.

[fickle ore]

TBH OLED is atm same price as high end HZ gaming IPS screens

[distant tapir]

Achkually oleds can't burn-in. That's outdated terminology.

[reef patrol]

And yet I can buy two of my current monitor for what a same panel sized OLED costs.

[fickle ore]

yea but buy one less, good for environment

[late grove]

Well obviously what exact VA monitor you have does matter.

Tho there isn't a single one that can match OLED.

[reef patrol]

Buy one, use till dies, buy second one.
No burnin.

[distant tapir]

Not upgrading at all would be even better.

Also don't oleds use more power than LCDs?

[late grove]

Depending on what they are showing.

[distant tapir]

At same brightness.

[reef patrol]

I paid roughly 400€ for my 34" Ultrawide 144hz1440P Monitor.
All of the OLEDs I am finding are twice that.

So... yeah... 😄

I ain't paying GPU money for a monitor that doesn't change my life in a meaningful way.

[fickle ore]

yeah def. Not upgrading from IPS/VA/TN to another IPS is the best scenario. Like I said.

Just not worth

[nimble canopy]

depents
upgrading from my 1440p 34" ultra wide to my 2160 57" super ultra wide VA was worth it

[fickle ore]

What did it help?

[distant tapir]

Every IPS I have owned or seen have been disgusting pieces of shits with awful contrast ratio and lots of backlight bleed. I don't think I can ever recommend one.

It's actually stunning to me how low standards are when it comes to monitors in this world.

[fickle ore]

agreed not even that much different from my shittier TN's

[river socket]

how people activate it ?

[distant tapir]

3 dead pixels and lots of blatant bleed? That's fine, no warranty for you!

Why do they ship this crap out.

[fickle ore]

EU 14 day return 🐻

[distant tapir]

I didn't return my Gigabyte M32U quickly enough so I had to ask Gigabyte (it had a stuck pixel out of the box and the ugliest bleed I had ever seen making any dark imagery look bad). But I couldn't return it.

If you have less than four stuck pixels you can't return it.

God I hate display companies.

[reef patrol]

Activate what - the FPS overlay?

https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner/graphics-cards

[distant tapir]

Standards are so insanely low.

[river socket]

all of that yea

[fickle ore]

Im not even sure if thats legal or enforceable, if you push it

but no idea

[rough osprey]

ye dont they have standards for the amount of dead pixels

atleast they do here

[reef patrol]

Gotta love that 14 day return.

They can't refuse that, regardless of how few or many dead pixels there are.

[fickle ore]

ye I went thru 3 monitors last time

shops hate me

[steady sail]

Btw this is the “cheapest” oled that u could buy if i wanted AOC PRO AG276QZD

[rough osprey]

can shops ban you if you order an item every two weeks and send it back in return widow

[fickle ore]

yea

[reef patrol]

They can refuse future orders.

[rough osprey]

would amazon do that...

[steady sail]

And one more thing i live about Hungary that every shop where selling monitor they need to add pixel warranty to the monitors LOL

[fickle ore]

tho u can always get new credit card

they prob dont notice

[minor citrus]

yes, there's people that reported amazon banning them

[distant tapir]

I was almost banned from Hifiklubben buying headphones because of this.

[rough osprey]

lol

[reef patrol]

I went through five monitors before I got this one.
I bought a Lenovo monitor two years ago, it would suddenly stop working at 144hz just completely at random. I would power it off for a week and suddenly it worked again.

They sent me a replacement, same issue and several dead pixels, then a third. This took almost a year (I kept the original monitor each time)

Finally got a full refund - went out and bought an AOC instead. And then it also had dead pixels on arrival - so I got a replacement which I now have.

[distant tapir]

I would often return them within the return window. Not because I intended to just 'test' them but because they were legit shit products.

That's when I realised I should trust measurements more.

[fickle ore]

LUL that sounds torture

[reef patrol]

It was a whole ordeal.

[rough osprey]

luckily i never had to send a monitor back

[distant tapir]

See? Standards are so insanely low it's crazy.

Best IPS I have ever had was my MacBook Air.

No backlight bleed. It looked like an oled almost.

Just perfect quality control.

[fickle ore]

My Asus IPS 280 hz has crazy BL bleed

w/e it cost 300€

[ashen spindle]

Apple does screens well. If you ignore response times lel

[fickle ore]

next is oled

[minor citrus]

I loved my 27" 2013 iMac because of this

[rough osprey]

ye the ips ipad pros are so bad

[distant tapir]

Yeah exactly. Even IPS can look high contrasty as long as the blacks are in fact black.

I would care a million times less about oled 'perfect blacks' if IPS screens had that level of quality.

But gaming monitors just shit the bed every time. 🤡

[rough osprey]

although slow response times can be good

[steady sail]

My 2nd monitor has 1 dead pixel after 4 years xd

[fickle ore]

Atleast 2nd and 3rd gen OLEDs have less input lag now than that 1st gen Alienware 💀

[distant tapir]

At low refresh rates sure.

[rough osprey]

ye 24fps movie on oled can be a bit stuttery sometimes

[distant tapir]

It looks terrible. I hate it.

Panning shots give me a headache. So blurry.

[ashen spindle]

Didn’t the firmware update fix that? I don’t even remember

[rough osprey]

gotta enable motion blur 😭

[distant tapir]

Looks pretty bad on my CRT as well because of double image effect.

I almost find it more annoying than oled blur.

[fickle ore]

Yee but its factory f/w iirc? Can't update it on that monitor? cud be wrong

They fixed it on later models

[ashen spindle]

Yeah you can finally they give you that option to update via hdmi or DisplayPort

[fickle ore]

Oh oke 1st gen AW saved then

[steady sail]

Yeah the more i read about oled from u guys im just gonna stay away from them

Thanks for the info that oled monitors are not worth a cent in my book

[rough osprey]

nah oled best

[steady sail]

When they are gonna cost 300€ sure

[distant tapir]

I don't think that will ever happen.

I think there will be cheaper and simultaneously better display technology out before they go that low.

[late grove]

It will happen eventually. OLED is speedrunning to become the mainstream display panel.

[rough osprey]

ye i think my pc setup has 2k € in oled monitors now

[distant tapir]

(discounting big sales I suppose)

[rough osprey]

thats kinda too much

[fickle ore]

u convinced yourself bc u already had a negative opinion about them

that is fine just wrong

[steady sail]

Uhm no xd

[rough osprey]

the lg 240hz one can be good deal tho

especially used

[sturdy raven]

Gaming in oled hdr
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1005293432174039131/1252513108782616626/IMG_2765.jpg?ex=66d40c3b&is=66d2babb&hm=d8f1dd9387be4a69cc2383f1d2dc69f00f8d91283ddc32e2023b49eeaf6bb012&

[distant tapir]

Oled is very flawed but then again what display tech isn't. Pick your poison. Oled is the least deadly poison to me.

[sturdy raven]

No more ips monitors for me

[smoky frigate]

I'm happy with TN, knowing its limitations

[steady sail]

The reason why i dont need an oled display is
I work in 3 shifts
Most of the time i just watch youtube videos
And when im playing videogames i dont care about colors most of the time

[rough osprey]

add bfi to more oleds

even if its dark

[smoky frigate]

hot take, BFI is not that dark when done well

[rough osprey]

ye i mean i use the 480hz one on 15% brightness

there gotta be room for bfi there

[steady sail]

Oh yeah i dont need 240hz or more bc my pc cant handle it xd

[late grove]

Very flawed in what way?

[distant tapir]

I'm fine at around 100 nits. That's the most comfortable brightness for me at SDR. I ran my C2 at around 20% brightness which according to Rtings is around 100 nits.

[distant tapir]

Bad inconsistent HDR brightness. Permanent image retention. Awful sample-and-hold motion blur.

[late grove]

Fair enough I suppose. Tho I would consider those nitpicks.

[distant tapir]

I wouldn't. I find them pretty severe.

[late grove]

So you want to use your screen at 2000 nits 100% of the time?

[rough osprey]

same

[distant tapir]

No.

I have low standards for SDR brightness. But for HDR higher is always better.

Oled does not compete to good miniLED there at all to me. They look so much dimmer and lifeless.

[steady sail]

[sturdy raven]

I want to get this miniled monitor to replace my oled

[distant tapir]

I think my biggest issue with oled is the motion blur. It gave me eyestrain.

[steady sail]

At this rate IPS looks 1000% better for me

[sturdy raven]

I stare at my screen 16-18 hours a day and would like to get the best out there

[rough osprey]

just get more hz

[rough osprey]

damn poor eyes

also not much sleep?

[sturdy raven]

Tell me about it 😭

Got terrible sleep habit

[steady sail]

And im lucky if i can sit at my pc for 4 hours

[fickle ore]

Just retire and u can

[rough osprey]

maybe dont look at a screen all day then

[sturdy raven]

Sometimes I can't sleep so I get back up and sit on my desk and do work

[steady sail]

I enjoy working and going out time to time i got borred just sitting at my pc after 2 days xd

[fickle ore]

dude enjoys working 3 shift 💀 , well who am I to say otherwise

[steady sail]

I dont enjoy 3 shifts at all

The work that i do what i enjoy the most not the shifts

[distant tapir]

I had to suffer with a 120 Hz C2.

[fluid stirrup]

4 12s is the best shift

[distant tapir]

But I also only really play singleplayer games many of which doesn't support more than 60.

Oled was a no-go.

(though there's decent frame gen now at least)

[rough osprey]

ah okay

[distant tapir]

When it comes to 30 fps games I just feel lost.

I think I should try lossless scaling or whatever it's called.

Does it work with emulators?

30 fps looks like dogshit on my CRT because it can't go lower than 50.

[steady sail]

Yeah without vrr i would hate myself as well

[rough osprey]

could add a retrotink 4k lol

[distant tapir]

It's not because of vrr it's because of the double image effect that impulsed displays suffer from.

[rough osprey]

although they expensive af

[distant tapir]

This effect sucks

It is honestly just as if not more distracting than sample-and-hold blur.

[steady sail]

Okay yeah that sucks

[distant tapir]

You have to experience it to know how it feels. Panning the camera in Silent Hill 4 with my screen set to 60 and the game running at 30 blatantly duplicated everything in the imagine in a weird way. And what I feel makes it even more distracting is that all the duplicates are clear, they're not blurry. That made it even more blatant I feel like.

[rough osprey]

😬

[distant tapir]

You see it in that image.

You can see three ufos. All three are clear, but there's three of them.

[steady sail]

Its just more and more confirmation that i dont need oled screens in my life

Even tho my phone has oled screen

[distant tapir]

What I sent isn't really about oled screens.

Just impulsed screens. That's only optional for oleds. Only happens if you decide to use bfi.

But CRTs are only impulsed (hence great motion clarity).

But it backfires a little at very low framerate content (meaning 30fps and lower stuff).

[rough osprey]

when we gonna see vrr with bfi

only one the pulsar screens yet or

like the newer aqn version

[smoky frigate]

yeah that's what I'm looking forward to myself. it was actually possible in directx9 games with dirty hax

[steady sail]

Either way i dont need them

[rough osprey]

gotta try gsync on the oled too

blurbusters was calling it "esports ready" on this display

[distant tapir]

Idk.

BFI is great when done well. Just too bad it sucks on oled so far.

What makes it especially painful is that it was good on oled back in the C1 and CX days. Then they murdered it and made it shitty.

[rough osprey]

i mean you can use 240hz with bfi now

if u only wanna use 240hz xd

[distant tapir]

Yes but it's 'fake' BFI.

[rough osprey]

in what way

[distant tapir]

Well not fake, but cheap and lazy.

[distant tapir]

It just inserts a black frame between frames meaning it is still limited by the highest refresh rate.

240 Hz + BFI on the 480 Hz panels just means 480 Hz motion clarity at 240.

It doesn't mean you get 960 Hz or something.

[rough osprey]

might be hardware limitation

[distant tapir]

The CX when running at 120 Hz (the highest it can do) could get over 300 Hz of motion clarity with BFI since it's using rolling scan and not just inserting a full black frame.

[distant tapir]

Yes.

Every oled monitor out there has cheap lazy BFI that doesn't allow you to actually go further than what the screen can do without BFI.

[rough osprey]

gotta have hope in the mediatek module

[distant tapir]

LG CX and C1 worked like this.

Very good BFI and lots of extra motion clarity.

But when C2 came out they killed it off.

I want BFI that can give me 480 Hz motion clarity at 60 Hz.

That would be swell. I'd sell my CRT in a heartbeat.

[late grove]

Pretty sure CRT has more going for it than motion clarity.

[distant tapir]

Not much imo.

[late grove]

I do want to get one to play modern retro games on it. But where I live it's quite hard to find one for good price.

Oh well, not the top of my priority right now.

[smoky frigate]

CRT can look lovely but that is very subjective

[distant tapir]

I love being able to run many kinds of resolutions natively without issue. I love that mine is 4:3 (my fav aspect ratio). That and the motion clarity is where it ends for me.

Oh and I love the look of course.

They should start selling oleds inside CRT casings. 👍

[sturdy raven]

Pixel response on newer oleds are in sub-milliseconds, why would it need bfi?

[distant tapir]

The low response times is what makes them great for BFI and yet isn't being taken advantage of. To try and explain quickly, pixel response times is not the same as sample-and-hold motion blur. Sample-and-hold blur is what BFI (and strobing) tries to reduce. Sample-and-hold refers to displays that will display a full frame and then keep it displayed until the next frame is ready to come. This means that the time a frame is displayed is completely dependent on what the framerate is. If you are running at 60 frames per second that means each frame will be displayed MINIMUM 16 something milliseconds (higher response times technically makes this number higher but of course how it looks in the end depends on which transitions are slower etc). Sample-and-hold blur depends on this number. Lower number means less blur.

BFI without displaying more game frames instead just reduces the amount of time that each frame is displayed for which increases the motion clarity. If a game is rendering at 60 frames per second but in between all those frames is a full black one that means each game frame is shown for 8 something milliseconds which is the same as if it were just running at 120. This means it has 120 Hz motion clarity.

(I really recommend reading this written by certified professionals: https://blurbusters.com/faq/oled-motion-blur/)

[sturdy raven]

Are you referencing a forum post from 2019? A lot has changed

[distant tapir]

The displays are still sample-and-hold. The information there isn't wrong or outdated.

[ashen spindle]

The tech has improved but it doesn’t change how or why something happens

[distant tapir]

I have some good videos.

WATCH ALL 3!!!!

[ashen spindle]

A review from 2019 would not apply sure but a technical explanation doesn’t get outdated unless the fundamental tech changes

[distant tapir]

This vibrating back and forth annoys the heck out of me. It's why I can't stand sample-and-hold.

Of course the image isn't actually vibrating but to our eyes it looks like that.

And it smears together looking blurry.

The reason why 60 fps is so jarring for a lot of people is exactly that.

And it's why 60 fps on a CRT looks great. It isn't vibrating or creating blur.

[sturdy raven]

Oh I see what you mean. I get that on my peripheral vision when playing my Switch which is either 30 or 60fps. My solution is to play at higher fps

[distant tapir]

Yep, higher framerates reduce it.

But then the problem is achieving those frames and having a screen capable of showing it.

Also gonna post this.

(Of course do keep in mind that how blurry it looks depends on the speed. 120 fps on oled can look great in some games and terrible in others (Geometry Dash, classic Sonic etc)).

And 3d games will vary a lot here. If you walk forward in Skyrim the speed at which things are moving across the screen is all over the place.

Some things will look blurry and others will look clear. It depends on what you are eye-tracking and at which speeds.

That's why UFO test exists to have an easy benchmark for this where variables are controlled.

[late grove]

Honestly the jump to 480hz is quite insane. Gotta see it in action for myself.

[distant tapir]

Yeah it's great.

1 000 Hz soon!

Ultra high refresh rate monitors are great for oled since they have such low response times and can actually show each frame properly.

https://blurbusters.com/blur-busters-law-amazing-journey-to-future-1000hz-displays-with-blurfree-sample-and-hold/

In case you are curious here is how a CRT looks in super slow motion.

That's why they are so famous for motion clarity. They draw a single line over the screen.

It's so weird knowing that I'm not looking at a whole image which is what it looks like to my vision but rather a very thin line going down super ultra quick.

[frozen ingot]

its kinda ridiculous though how we had essentially the same technology for about 70 or so years for monitors

and nowadays we get new offshoots of panel tech every other week

like how many flat panel type technologies do we have now

[rough osprey]

would love the customization the asus 540hz has

[distant tapir]

Many. That's a good thing though since things are improving.

[rough osprey]

bit different tech ye but you can freely change ulmb level / pulse width

[frozen ingot]

wish it'd be less of a confusing hassle for consumers though

[distant tapir]

Yeah I honestly think they should take the Apple approach instead of these potentially confusing names like QDEL, QD-OLED, OLED (when really WOLED) etc.

[frozen ingot]

my parents looking for a new tv atm and are completely lost about all the abbreviations and looks to me for answers and am like shit I don't know

[rough osprey]

bring back joled

[distant tapir]

I remember wanting to buy one of those 60 Hz workstation oled monitors in 2020 when I was so fed up with IPS bs.

I think it was joled?

[fickle ore]

I mean every TN/IPS/VA etc has motion blur bc they have sample n hold so this is nothingburger

Always hated this article bc it makes OLED sound bad due to sample n hold

[tranquil vault]

Did a few changes, does anyone know a software, where I can change my rgb from my PC really easy?? I got an ROG strix b550 A as mainboard

[ashen spindle]

Project Artemis iirc was the name for the big rbg software

[tranquil vault]

Never heard of that, thank you

[ashen spindle]

Idk if they added boards and not just keyboards and such by now but take a look

[tranquil vault]

I looked it up on my phone, are u sure that that’s the software?

[ashen spindle]

Oh iirc just means if I remember correctly lol not part of the name

[tranquil vault]

Mb I’m not in English slangs

[balmy vector]

Asking google if it remembers Project Artemis

[ashen spindle]

Artemis rgb search that

[tranquil vault]

Yes ty

[distant tapir]

Of course they do. But the reason why the article specifically mentions oled is because so many are mistaken when it comes to motion blur and specifically oled. People will spread around 'oled has perfect motion clarity because of instant pixel response times' which isn't true. I have seen a ton of people say this.

As you see from the earlier convo there are still a ton upon ton of people that are unaware of why oled has motion blur.

But only specifically for oled. No one questions why LCD has motion blur.

I vaguely remember Linus also spreading this idea.

[ashen spindle]

Mark is very verbose with his replies to anything it’s not pr catered to people who just want an overview of what’s good haha so it can get misunderstood easily

[distant tapir]

At least he's blur-pilled now.

[iron wave]

It won't work. :-(

I do wonder if you could install a code scanner into the head unit.

[rough osprey]

probably

they expensive af

[fickle ore]

But its so stupid

[rough osprey]

paid like 900€ for a 27inch 4k one

with 60hz

[fickle ore]

Nobody mentions the same shit with other screens

[rough osprey]

but they have rgb layout :D

[distant tapir]

The oled I looked at back then was several thousand. Maybe 5 or 6 thousand. 😩

[rough osprey]

ye mine was from 2023

[iron wave]

I want to get OLED but they are so expensive.

[rough osprey]

early adaptor price ig

[distant tapir]

Well it's mostly brought up when the topic is oleds.

[fickle ore]

everyone who cares about monitors knows what sampling n hold is so tis moot

[distant tapir]

Because again the misleading 'oled has perfect motion clarity' statement is everywhere.

[fickle ore]

is it rly? havent seen

[distant tapir]

(Also oled has very visibly bad response times when ran at very low brightness but that's not important)

[rough osprey]

perfect stationary clarity xd

[distant tapir]

I see it all the time.

People will always say 'I don't see the point of bfi when oled has perfect motion clarity'.

That happens all the time on reddit when bfi is talked about.

[iron wave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&D=60000,540000&P=7,9,15&C=0&c0=di_displayport&A=2,4,3,1,6,5&X=420,1399932&sort=price&page=1

[distant tapir]

Also of course there are people that don't understand why you might recommend some LCDs over oled for motion clarity since they think oled will be better even though there are LCDs out there that easily beat them.

[fickle ore]

Probably on some casual channel like PCMR

not in r/hardware or r/monitors etc

[iron wave]

I've only seen high contrast and perfect blacks.

[distant tapir]

R/oled_gaming (cringe consoomer subreddit for the most part) and r/monitors.

[iron wave]

To be fair Reddit is just cringe.

[distant tapir]

Also in the r/monitors Discord that I was a part of for a while. But at least all the regulars there know about it and will correct them.

[fickle ore]

Now thats childish and overgeneralizing whole forum

[iron wave]

Have you seen the things the owner has been doing?

[fickle ore]

idc

[iron wave]

CEO whatever.

[fickle ore]

I talk with ppl not with the CEO

[pale trellis]

I use my DSLR set at diff shutter speeds to set the diff settings on my monitor

[iron wave]

On a platform the CEO is actively ruining to suck as much money out of before it goes down.

I'm annoyed at Nvidia's monitor support.

[fickle ore]

Look at their MAU's to gauge that

[rough osprey]

but ye

[fickle ore]

has been growing

[rough osprey]

1000hz oled by 2027

[marsh glade]

What an odd chart

I see the asterix but it's funny looking

[iron wave]

I'm not paying too much attention to Reddit but the stuff I've seen people rage about include:

• Charging asinine amounts for API access
• Undeleting and unediting user posts and accounts then banning them
• Bloating the default UI
• Selling data to "AI" companies
• Blocking search engines unless they pay a ransom

[fickle ore]

yeah anecdotals are best

[iron wave]

Ah yes actions of the company to make their platform worse are anecdotal.

[iron wave]

I wonder if they can add variable refresh rate support over HDMI in an update.

[distant tapir]

Average r/OLED_Gaming user

[iron wave]

I've seen plenty of blur on my phone screens.

[distant tapir]

I have also seen ghosting on mine when I run them at the lowest brightness.

2015 VA levels of smearing. Quite bad.

But as I said before it's not something that matters much. It's when they are ultra dim.

[fickle ore]

I mean thats one guy with deleted and -1 karma kekw

[iron wave]

It's certainly spooky until you get used to it, but I guess if you're on enough copium you get used to it faster and forget about it.

[distant tapir]

'No blur!!!! Perfect motion clarity!!!'

There's been a noticeable shift towards being aware of MPRT in the past few years. The big youtubers never addressed it in their display reviews. Now they do.

Rtings fixed their awful motion test. recntly.

[rough osprey]

i mean the monitor isnt blurring

we should critique our eyes

[iron wave]

I'm gonna get an eyePhone and plug the DP cable into my eye.

[fickle ore]

WELL tbf when you go past 360 hz on sample n hold motion blur becomes really low

so if you arent moving real fast in games u cant prob see it

[iron wave]

Dang, even the cheapest 4K monitor on PCPP with VRR is nearly $200 and these have been out for ages.

[distant tapir]

Our eyes have to work together with the display. Right now they aren't.

[rough osprey]

eyes too lazy

[distant tapir]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1f4j923/oled_vs_ips_comparison/

This guy got lucky with his IPS.

[fickle ore]

"Useless comparison. Your the dynamic range of the displays cant fit into cameras dynamic range, so all near black will be crushed to black on photos. In person the difference is huge. "

[rough osprey]

very real

[smoky frigate]

you can clearly see the difference tho lol

backlight, color, contrast

fucking besserwissers

[fair gull]

anandtech dead wot?

[smoky frigate]

huuuh that's a surprise

shame, it was a good publication

[fair gull]

for anyone who hasnt seen it https://www.anandtech.com/show/21542/end-of-the-road-an-anandtech-farewell

[distant tapir]

They're one of the websites I would actually click on when I looked up benchmarks.

[fair gull]

also this... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/11/the-windows-app-for-mac-ios-and-browsers-is-a-fancy-remote-desktop-for-now/

i hoped this would never come out of the review stage

horrible name

[late grove]

Sometimes you have to wonder how many mistakes a giant corporation has to make before they finally get the message.

[iron wave]

If people still give them money they won't get the message.

[smoky frigate]

it somehow leads to line go up

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean perfect for SharePoint

[vagrant pagoda]

That's why images are terrible for hdr comparison. You need empirical data.

[astral haven]

BTW this is nonsense
The best oleds are only capable of ~20k:1 contrast, which requires 14 bits linear to capture
A pretty normal professional camera can capture that in a single snapshot, and a smartphone can use exposure bracketing to artificially expand its dr

[iron wave]

If you have a 0 as the lower end how do you get less than infinity?

[distant tapir]

Isn't 'infinite contrast' a meme?

Not that it's necessarily wrong, but how contrasty something looks will depend much more on the brightness.

Minileds without 'infinite' contrast looks much more higher contrast to me than any oled I've seen.

People will argue that movie projectors in cinemas don't need to be bright because they're in a super dark room but I still find them dim as shit.

To the point where it makes the experience massively inferior.

(No I have never been to IMAX or anything like that. Nothing like that close to where I live)

You can't only rely on things being dark. Things also need to be bright.

[smoky frigate]

anything being marketed as "infinite" is definitely a meme

[iron wave]

I don't mind a proper theater image.

I just don't understand how you can get anything other than inf or NaN.

[ebon crypt]

oh

[rough osprey]

OH

[smoky frigate]

oh god what the fuck

[rough osprey]

NOO

😔

[distant tapir]

What?

[rough osprey]

idk

[gusty nexus]

that's why you like them compared to others, I understand now 😅
https://youtu.be/a_SjaprrZCI

[stone topaz]

is anyone able to help me i have a msi aegis RS computer and out of nowere it started having reslly bad connection problems i do have wifi 6 on the pc im not shre why my ping suddenly doubled in every game but please dm me help

[thin axle]

If the wifi card is removable. You could try a new one.

[livid ruin]

does the hd560s make some noise when there is nothing playing? if i plug them into my behringer uphoria um2 or my motherboard

[pale sigil]

WOW lol

https://mrpl.me/268050b_rfc1.jpg
https://mrpl.me/nb8051b_rfq9.jpgd

this APU is playing hogwarts at 2880x1622

[unkempt lake]

guys help my minecraft is broken

[unkempt lake]

What framerate

[balmy vector]

Its in the top-left. Steam overlay one

[unkempt lake]

I looked at the top right instead lol

[balmy vector]

[unkempt lake]

Mine's always to my right

[pale sigil]

top left

[unkempt lake]

I stoopid

Im playing a halo mod

Its so cursed

[pale sigil]

i saw

[unkempt lake]

I won the halo grand prix tho and got the index as a trophy @pale sigil

[pale sigil]

ok i need that

[unkempt lake]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2962107814

@pale sigil my sniper lost its wifi

my bullets are buffering

[balmy vector]

7 day delivery

[unkempt lake]

This mod is truly beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwoiMHiyL8 @balmy vector @pale sigil

it'S truly beautiful

[late grove]

Yeah pretty interesting video. Tho some things still don't add up.

[final flame]

that would be caused by the device you're plugging them into, not the headphone

[livid ruin]

Ahhh

I don't need a amp/dac foe the 560s right.

?

[final flame]

you don't, however if your device is noisy, a small dongle would help that

any generic cx31993 dac would work

[livid ruin]

Any of these good?

[livid ruin]

Would a dongle make the sound quality better?

[steady sail]

i love that i can just use the audio adapter from the cloud II for my IEM :D

[smoky fractal]

just get the apple one

if you can

[livid ruin]

Yea but the cable is short

[livid ruin]

They told me its not in eu

[smoky fractal]

F

[steady sail]

yeah i have like +2 meter cable for my iem xD

[nimble canopy]

if your paying $150 for head phones i would at least pair it up with a descent dac instead of a dongle

[livid ruin]

Damn.

[livid ruin]

Wish i could find some for the ie200

[livid ruin]

Yea im thinking abt buying the 560s now and saving up for a good dac and amp

I just don't know whats good and not 300 euro

[steady sail]

uhm can u found a audio adapter for cloud II used in your county maybe

[gusty kiln]

lol surprise crin face

[steady sail]

yes bocchi avatar

[gusty kiln]

oh I was talking about Lizard's avatar

[steady sail]

oh

xdf

[gusty kiln]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QB9pxSlXdgo/sddefault.jpg

[livid ruin]

Hahaha

[gusty kiln]

the man, the myth, the legend

[livid ruin]

In don't.think separately

[final flame]

anything that has a cx31993 chip and has decent reviews

[steady sail]

[gusty kiln]

all the hotels near the audio show near me are booked

[livid ruin]

Would it increase the quality

[final flame]

not really, it's just something to prevent electrical noise

[livid ruin]

Im new to this shit and idk if I would want the ie200 iems or a other iems or a pair of headphones

[final flame]

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[livid ruin]

I have the beringer um2 and a tuf 670e motherboard

[livid ruin]

Yea idk I always have had over ear headsets

So yea

[gusty kiln]

https://hangout.audio/collections/combos?srsltid=AfmBOor9--ARSRuxp9NOkSc0snIGYLwTd7x0DzwYQuLLp-lgTz5wHjZZ

buy these bundles from crinacle

the 1st or 2nd bundle

[livid ruin]

And what is digital and analog sound?

[final flame]

if you're fine with sticking things in your ears iems could be a option
some people don't like that feeling so they get headphones

[final flame]

digital is stored on the device in 1s and 0s
it needs to be converted to analog in order to be played by the headphones or iems, that's what the dac is for

analog sound is just voltages

[livid ruin]

So there comes digital sound out of the pc and the dac puts it to analog

Or huh

I have used earbuds for my phone but its a hell using 2 at the same time ive always used one in my left ear

The right one just keeps falling out

And is uncomfortable

[steady sail]

put bigger eartips on it ?

[livid ruin]

Doesnt work

Already tried every size i have

[steady sail]

oof

[livid ruin]

Yup

@final flame do you know a good dac/amp for the 560s that does not break the bank

Like not iver 250 euro

[steady sail]

https://moondroplab.com/en/products/dawn-pro ?

[livid ruin]

It better then a fiio k11

[steady sail]

good question

[livid ruin]

Hahaha

[steady sail]

im not an audiophile soo

[final flame]

k11 is a desktop amp/dac, it'll be "better" but it's not portable nor do you really need it for the 560s
it also costs more

[livid ruin]

Yea but the dawn pro aint available on Amazon for me

[livid ruin]

Whzt aboit the kiwiears one

Wich of these is best?

[final flame]

you can get literally anything and it will not matter

the dawn pro and the kiwiears are both the same exact thing inside, they just look different

[livid ruin]

And does it make the 560s sound better like is it worth you think?

[final flame]

just get the 560s and hear it first before you start getting into dacs and amps

[final flame]

they make a difference, just not a big enough difference to make something you don't like into something you like

[gusty kiln]

@astral haven https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CZ6PX17L/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1MP9UBTN7Z9V&psc=1

Dunno if you still use your xreal much, but they finally have an official dongle

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uapad3pVxBY

Ooooooooh

[livid ruin]

Yea that was my idea but i was planning to buy one with black friday or shit

But does the fiio k11 or a desktop dac amp sound better then the dawn pro or kiwi one

[steady sail]

just try the headset out first

[livid ruin]

Yea

[iron wave]

Does anyone here know how hard it might be too create an Xposed module that would hook into a system service and filter the data that it returns based on the application that is calling it?

[gaunt hearth]

'headphone' amp

[empty wren]

https://github.com/rovo89/XposedBridge/wiki/Development-tutorial

[distant tapir]

I hate when they come with remotes.

I only have one but that's one too many for my liking!

[gaunt hearth]

need to get a universal remote and bind the keys but i just use the dial on the amps 90% of the time anyway

used that gustard for almost a year before even touching the remote

[final flame]

what is that a he-6?

[gaunt hearth]

he 560v4 that ive abused it was only in that photo because i had to get my main headphones replaced from hifiman

[final flame]

ic

[gaunt hearth]

those things do really like alot of power though they are stupidly insensitive

[final flame]

yea, the classic hifimans need a lot of juice

[gaunt hearth]

ive used arya stealth up until recently and they were really nice just had to send them back after almost a year because the driver started to develop a hole from them falling off my desk more than once

gave a discount for he1000 stealth on mail in as an option other than just direct warranty replacement

[distant tapir]

Did you EQ the Arya?

I had the pre-Stealth ones and they were quite poor without.

[gaunt hearth]

only a mild sub bass shelf the treble didnt really bother me

[final flame]

stealth doesn't really need anywhere near as much eq

[gaunt hearth]

arya organic are supposedly nicer

[final flame]

organic has more treble, which was already a bit much

[distant tapir]

I also had the Organic. Still needed EQ but at least it had some bass unlike the old one.

[gaunt hearth]

all hifiman planars have less bass than harman overear target but the driver is so large that you feel the sub bass at higher listening volumes

[distant tapir]

The feel is pretty small. Bass shelf is absolutely essential to me.

[final flame]

nothing a little eq can't fix

10db low shelf after 200hz

[distant tapir]

Yes. Though I had mine at lower frequencies.

I think my shelf starts at 105 Hz.

I never managed to fix the treble. Hence why I sold both.

Hifiman - never again.

[gaunt hearth]

shouldnt really need a bass shelf above 100hz on them and the only time hifiman has had a bad sound for me was on quite bad and underpowered amps

makes the bass lose impact and they get shouty

[final flame]

it's always best to get a headphone that you already like, then eq

I don't understand why people will buy headphones just to eq them to be "good"

[gaunt hearth]

some things cannot be EQed out of bad headphones though

[final flame]

yea

[gaunt hearth]

like severe driver resonance or bass distortion

like you cant just add a +20db or +30db bass shelf to a poorly performing open back

it will start to sound horrible

[distant tapir]

That's the problem I had with the Arya's. Unfixable treble.

They were too sharp no matter what I did.

I also owned the god awful Sony MDR-Z1R which also had that problem. I should have listened to the measurements more.

[gaunt hearth]

which part of treble response

[distant tapir]

It was very high up but I can't remember exactly.

[gaunt hearth]

the dekoni elite pads dull treble alot on any of the egg shaped hifimans vs the stock 'ultrapads'

tried ones on edition XS over a year ago and didnt like it because of that lost too much detail for me

i think the full velour ones

[distant tapir]

Problem with aftermarket pads is that it makes it harder for me to EQ.

[gaunt hearth]

id just EQ by ear then if you mean just the oratory or whatever pasting into equalizer apo

tone down anything offensive

[gaunt hearth]

dekoni has graphs showing what they affect but i dont think anyone really trusts them

[final flame]

elite hybrids are my favorite

I use them on my clears

[gaunt hearth]

im going to try fenestrated leather for comfort reasons

going to reduce the treble a tiny bit probably

[distant tapir]

I got the Grell headphones but they were very bad.

What a damn shame that was.

[gaunt hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789847646944493598/1262133683914145823/image.png

edition XS would be a really great headphone if they didnt have that atrocity of a headband

[distant tapir]

Moondrop is coming out with new headphones I want to try.

[distant tapir]

Can't you easily change them? That makes it more expensive ofc.

[gaunt hearth]

not unless you have an arya to steal the headband off of and dont mind fully disassembling the drivers to get to the screws

[final flame]

I recommend capra strap

[gaunt hearth]

best you can do for XS is a strap yeah

but that doesnt add earcup swivel

on arya on he1000 i use the 2nd smallest or smallest adjustment to fit

edition XS i had to physically bend the headband and add padding

supposedly fits fine if you have a big head

[distant tapir]

I want the Cosmo with Para pads.

[gaunt hearth]

theres some company that makes custom pads to order called vesper

thought about trying them if i dont like the dekoni im getting

[final flame]

wonder why moondrop didn't ship it with the para pads, that 1k is atrocious

[distant tapir]

I also wonder. With them it is highly impressive.

[final flame]

I'd rather take that elevated upper mids than have that 1k honk

emu teak my beloved

[distant tapir]

I'm afraid Cosmo would be uncomfortable. It's heavy.

[final flame]

I feel like I have a addiction to dynamic drivers, every headphone I've had is one, and everything I'm considering is one
I tried a couple audeze's and they didn't really impress me, still would want one for collection, but they don't really have a impress factor

[gaunt hearth]

what do you use for dac and amp

[final flame]

when demoing I was using a cambridge stack
but for home use I use a magni and modi

[gaunt hearth]

ive been using an antique sony speaker amp and a topping e70v recently really like the setup other than the bulkyness

kind of shocking how well it works without servicing with its age and how hot it runs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789847646944493598/1279194381005357138/image.png

has a class A and B switch

[final flame]

nice

I plan to eventually upgrade to the topping a70 and d70

[gaunt hearth]

pretty impressive for 1970s

they designed it with a fully encased smps that has a record of burning itself out though which sucks

cant run in class A for hours on end risk free

might throw some small noctua fans in it lol

[old marlin]

If only the headband didn't unscrew itself over time

[final flame]

a small exchange for a legitimately good closed back

and some threadlocker red

[digital cliff]

I have the TH-X00s (TR-X00 without removable cable) love em to bits honestly

[digital cliff]

okay can someone explain me how any link I click opens in chromium despite having x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop; x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop; in mimeapps.list and $BROWSER set to firefox

okay what the fuck kinda sense does this make

???? what do you want from me

[reef patrol]

Sorry. No impersonations.

[halcyon moss]

Does you shell have this setting but not your x session?

[digital cliff]

I figured it out, /etc/environment was setting $BROWSER, upon clearing that I was able to set the default browser via xdg-open

now if I only knew where xdg-open sets it so I wouldn't need to rely on a tool I don't know how it works

I don't understand why $BROWSER prevents xdg-settings to set a default browser if it has nothing to do with $BROWSER

[fair gull]

#linuxthings

[unkempt lake]

#lanamoments

But not by lana this time

[fair gull]

how so it has context

[unkempt lake]

You're right Lana wouldn't have had context

Mansen was right this is just a darn impersonator

!!!!

[reef patrol]

[smoky frigate]

that is odd, but I figure it's put in there by the xdg people so you can force your own browser if it's not listed in your DE (instead of making a .desktop file that it likes)

[remote flint]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007627723927.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.5114BuRtBuRtJn&algo_pvid=3e6ff5db-908c-4da5-83bb-237341a05efd&algo_exp_id=3e6ff5db-908c-4da5-83bb-237341a05efd-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis!AUD!111.41!77.99!!!528.76!370.15!%402101efeb17251841204947681ea817!12000041560814004!sea!AU!6020530626!X&curPageLogUid=GX9rCnHLI8q1&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A
fellas does this case look like it fits the wooting 60he+

[alpine patio]

it should but no gaurentees

bro at that price

consider a tofu redux

[remote flint]

im in aus tho

tofu redux is a bitch to ship

shipping is half the price of the board

[alpine patio]

im sure there are retailers in aus

[remote flint]

nah they all jack up the price

so its the same if not more expensive

[alpine patio]

welp then just get that

60% has a standard that most producers follow

[remote flint]

ic

[alpine patio]

it will likely fit but 0 gaurentees

[digital cliff]

it literally claims to fit it so I'd go by that

[remote flint]

yea

[fair gull]

what the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7C_x5EI-fQ

[sharp badger]

It was interesting to watch the length they went to do it lol

[reef patrol]

So there's no chip or anything. Seems like a really poorly thought out scam.

[analog sinew]

wild

[balmy vector]

[digital cliff]

they went to all this trouble when they could've just took product pictures of a real CPU and then shipped a rock

like why... bother with all this stuff when all the same it doesn't do anything anyway

[rough patrol]

my guess is that it buys them some extra time to scam more people

or if you sell in person, the person can take it out and see nothing wrong at first until they take it home and put it in

[reef patrol]

The amount of work involved compared to the potential sales must be terribly lopsided.

You can't sell more than a handful to someone under the table, before they catch on.

If they at least booted, they could probably drop a couple thousand to a reseller who wasn't above some black market shit.

No respectable distributor is going to buy these, or be sold TO, because of legally binding contracts and you know... police.

[digital cliff]

I think with the amount of effort has to imply them trying to do just that, offload a few hundred of these units to some poor reseller and then disappear

trying to scam end-users with this is too much effort when you could just ship a rock

kinda nuts, you coulda put all that effort into some awesome new product instead

[reef patrol]

If a reseller buys a couple of hundred from a completely unknown seller, that's entirely on their ass to be honest.

[digital cliff]

true, but varying levels of markets exist with varying levels of integrity

take some poorer region of the world with less-established business practices and a culture of back-alley trades

[reef patrol]

I suppose there's always a bigger sucker out there. But that's on you as the buyer then 😄

[digital cliff]

I'm sure in these same markets even proper goods are traded in that sort of back-alley way so it's a good place to infiltrate with this kinda scam

[reef patrol]

It's 2024 and Youtube still doesn't support muting a comment thread.

[digital cliff]

what does that mean

[reef patrol]

It means exactly what it says.

[digital cliff]

thanks chief

[marsh glade]

Your first mistake is commenting on a Youtube video

[reef patrol]

You post a comment on a video, or you reply to one. And there's no escaping notifications from it.

[digital cliff]

ohhhh, you do that??

damn that's nuts

[balmy vector]

[reef patrol]

You can mute a person - forever, site wide. Or you can disable notifications... everywhere, forever.

[reef patrol]

Yes. Some of us actually use the internet, grandpa. Go back to your Sauna.

'

[digital cliff]

can also not comment which is what the sane individuals do

[reef patrol]

It's simple - Just don't use the website as designed!

[marsh glade]

Now you're getting it xD

[digital cliff]

now you're getting the hang of it

[balmy vector]

Quick learner

[ashen spindle]

youtube is not designed to use the comments, as you said there are no basic features like thread muting

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-out-window-suicide-quit-gif-14954656

[fickle ore]

https://spectrum.ieee.org/chips-act-and-intel

[reef patrol]

TBTF

TooBigToFail

[steep creek]

[balmy vector]

we'll have to wait and see

[analog sinew]

we'll see about that

[fickle ore]

14A will even exceed further if it succeeds

[ashen spindle]

yeah but 14A is already delayed so lets see if 18A works first

[fickle ore]

Where was it announced that its delayed?

[ashen spindle]

pat talked how the magdeburg fab in germany would be the most advanced when it opens so it would have 14A or 16A as it was called at the time

and that fab build plan is moved up already

so short of them just idk throwing out another fab to put 14A there it's already later than originally planned

[fickle ore]

What? that doesnt make sense. They arent gonna make the most advanced fab reside on non-US soil

IIRC german plant was gonna be some advanced packaging or whatever

[ashen spindle]

"This will be not only the most advanced manufacturing fab in Germany, the most advanced [chip] manufacturing in the world will occur at the Magdeburg site," Gelsinger said at the World Economic Forum in Davos

[fickle ore]

Yeah link the whole news plz

[ashen spindle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/manufacturing/intels-german-fab-will-be-most-advanced-in-the-world-and-make-15nm-chips-ceo-say

this was from before the roadmap were it was namend 14A so it was just knowng to be around 1.5nm

[analog sinew]

if it wasnt in fking magdeburg i could apply

[fickle ore]

Interesting

[rough osprey]

move

[fickle ore]

Definitely cheaper in GER than in US

[analog sinew]

no i mean i dont wanna lol

east germany bleh

not my cuppa tea

[rough osprey]

😔

no Intel Insider

[old marlin]

cost of living is stupidly low

but yea, east germany kinda bleh

[ashen spindle]

well it would be nice if this plant works out well and does increase QoL over there

[fickle ore]

I would def move to east germany if I was hired by intel 😄

[ashen spindle]

the current political climate in the east is.... swinging really badly

[fickle ore]

but not my field

[rough osprey]

life is fine tho

[fickle ore]

£$€ >>>> politics

[rough osprey]

atleast its not berlin

[fickle ore]

low COL living is seriously OP

and getting paid US company salaries

[rough osprey]

ye

[fickle ore]

Could prob retire in 10 yrs

[ashen spindle]

you wont get US level salary there

[rough osprey]

chill in Bali as a US remote worker

[fickle ore]

Yea no, but it will be loads better than local

European employers hate rewarding their employees, they don't think bonuses/RSU's work to boost working morale

hate this continent

[analog sinew]

go to the usa where they dont believe in sick leave or holidays lol

[fickle ore]

u mean like my current company in europe

[analog sinew]

that sounds shit

[verbal nimbus]

I've been looking at more pricier headphones around 150-200 range, and I heard good things about the HD560s is that the best option? @final flame @late grove

@astral haven @alpine patio

[late grove]

Haven't heard 560s myself yet. So can't help there, sry.

You may want to look at used market tho. At least here you can often find it for dirt cheap.

[rough osprey]

560s goated

[alpine patio]

it might be a jump from what u are used too

but they are good

[verbal nimbus]

how are they for games?

[rough osprey]

good

sound good and comfortable

[verbal nimbus]

what are the wireless options?

i see accentum plus and sony ult wear

[iron wave]

Oops.

[umbral heron]

Your computor doesn't go to sleep?

[pale sigil]

When the electric prices went up I stopped leaving mine on XD

[bronze anvil]

Also for the summer I put the CPU in eco mode

not just for the electricity bill

room is already 27.2°C rn

[rough osprey]

https://x.com/markgurman/status/1830232503413776519?s=46

Mark Gurman (@markgurman) on X

Apple’s smaller M4 Mac mini will have 5 USB-C ports (3 on the back and 2 on the front), an internal power brick, HDMI, Ethernet, but lose USB-A. Units are about to start shipping from overseas suppliers. https://t.co/J6tXjn2Tjx

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 1:13 PM

[umbral heron]

Yay
Death to USB-A

[balmy vector]

Usb C utopia

[rough osprey]

nooo

[balmy vector]

Not complaining, everything should go to usbc

[ashen spindle]

not while usbc is still just more expensive

[rough osprey]

why no sd card reader tho

[balmy vector]

Except for me

[steep creek]

||lightning ||or no deal

[balmy vector]

I cant support usbc

[rough osprey]

why

[balmy vector]

Manufacturer said no to usbc during my production

[rough osprey]

:/

[steady sail]

i mean i dont even have any usb-c on my mobo

[late grove]

I do like that we are moving to USB C now. I don't like how mobo companies are not taking advantage of it's smaller size.

[bright briar]

I NEED ALL THE USB PORTS

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-angry-yelling-the-boodocks-silly-gif-7182919

[umbral heron]

Well, power and signal integrity, so they need to be a bit further apart

[minor citrus]

theres limited bandwith available, so they can't cram in more ports. Also the shield is standardized, so no point in not giving the single ports a bit room to breathe

[digital cliff]

if you like the sound signature, sure

[verbal nimbus]

what about wireless options around that price range theres accentum plus and sony ult wears

also xm4 renewed

[digital cliff]

seems midrange-y

guess that's more like upper bass/low midrange

560s is harman but bass is little reduced so if you care about that, maybe check something else

[cursive summit]

Death to the most prevalent connector type on PC?

I fail to see why USB-C exists on PC (other than VR, but that goes into your GPU)

[steady sail]

can we just kill the 12VHPWR gpu connector

[cursive summit]

Unironically though I kinda like the 12VHPWR connector lol

[umbral heron]

Hi Vexsie
I wouldn't mind that change, I have way more C cables than A ones

[cursive summit]

Occupies just one space on the PSU and splits into 2 8pins

Though mechanically I have no clue how VHPWR is bad other than the Nvidia burning thing

[umbral heron]

IMO it should be 14-pin with 6 +12V and 8 GNDs

[balmy vector]

It should be an orange that you put on top your gpu

[steady sail]

okay not killing them but making them idiot proof

[cursive summit]

Idiot proof cause the "consumer is too stupid to fully push it in" thingy?

But ain't that just any other cable

[steady sail]

it is but atleast i know if the 8pin cable is in my gpu for real xd

[cursive summit]

If anything I actually like the 12 pin cause I actually know which way it's supposed to go in

8pins sometimes I still have no clue if I'm putting it in upside down or not

(that's what she said?)

[umbral heron]

[steady sail]

[umbral heron]

They go one way in

[rough osprey]

lets add 650w to the pcie connector

[cursive summit]

With 8 pins though, at least on my PSU it has no differentiating feature which way is correct lel

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that's on PSU

[cursive summit]

And those stupid 8pins are sharp so when you try to jam it in the wrong way round it really hurts

[umbral heron]

I'd love if there was a hole in motherboard, and power connectors would go to through it to the card from the other side than nowadays

[ashen spindle]

The biggest issue is instead of making a new connector they should have just taken the existing eps12v 8pin

[cursive summit]

Well, I don't mind the 12pin just cause it splits into double 8 pin so it's nice and tidy to cable manage

[ashen spindle]

How about just one eps12v cable

[cursive summit]

I don't think I've ever seen one nor really know what that is

Industrial standard of sorts?

[umbral heron]

12pin into 2x8pins
Poor ground cables

[ashen spindle]

The 8 pin you put to the cpu for example

It’s the non pcie 8 pin you have on consumer already

[cursive summit]

It's kinda cute though

[cursive summit]

Ain't that a six pin

[umbral heron]

CPU is 4/8
PCI is 6/8

[cursive summit]

Hol' on I need to check my PC, might be misremembering

Ah 'tis indeed 8pin

Thought it was a 6pin with an additional 4pin which to this day I dunno why it's there

Running a 65W processor I doubt I need the extra 4

[ashen spindle]

Thee board doesn’t know what cpu you put in it and what you do

[umbral heron]

All AMDs can run on 8-pin
Not sure about high-end Intels

[steady sail]

i dont think soo

[cursive summit]

Tbf I dunno what AMD B650 CPU even needs an additional 4pin

8pin is... 250W?

Threadripper and Intel prolly need one, not AMD's Ryzen