🔌│tech

[halcyon moss]

filtered on <550€ and has a minijack

[umbral heron]

Mid-range Samsungs
Galaxy M34, perfectly cromulent phone, has headphonie jack, 200€

[steady sail]

Idk maybe its me but i would go with a usb-c to jack instead of only jack

[wild coyote]

If there was a USB-C to USB-C + 3.5mm

[halcyon moss]

yeah, midrange samsung

[wild coyote]

I'd get it with no problems

[gusty kiln]

https://amz.run/9V8U

[wild coyote]

And the only shite thing, I'd have to get it from amazon with 15 euro shipping

[steady sail]

Sure a lil big but

[wild coyote]

Time to find non-existent adapters in finland ig

[sharp badger]

Just order something from https://www.amazon.de/

[wild coyote]

Still costly shipping yk

[sharp badger]

Eh ain't that bad

[wild coyote]

Yes, but I'm not the one with the money

Apparently my father wants to get a phone to an employee, but doesn't want to give him like a good pricey ahh phone

so he wanted to make a deal with me

[umbral heron]

Nokia 2720

[wild coyote]

Getting the Nord 4, in return I'll give him my phone

[steady sail]

Nice

[wild coyote]

It is nice

especially he'll be buying the 512gb model

[steady sail]

I got used to ios soo anyway

Tho if i switch back to android it would be a top notch phone anyway lul

[sharp badger]

New iPhones releasing soon™️

[steady sail]

Yeah in 2 weeks or so

But im fine on my iphone 14 lul

[sharp badger]

Yeah

& i'm happy with the S23U

[steep creek]

apple intelligence time

i just want a new watch band, hope they come out with a color i like

[steady sail]

If i would choose a new phone it would be the s24 ultra

Or a iphone 16 pro

But overall i dont really need it

[astral haven]

xperia 🤤

and i say that having both a 24u and a 15P

[sharp badger]

Wanted a fold but bought the S23U instead because of the Zoom

[astral haven]

xperia has the optical zoom 🤤

[lyric hatch]

Was thinking about an xperia but two years of software support is pretty abysmal

[steady sail]

I just dont like their design lul

[astral haven]

3 years

with security for 4

[steady sail]

Im happy with my 7 years of support

[astral haven]

not great, but sony actually tends to follow through with their support

id prefer a promised 3 and receiving 3 than promised 7 and receiving 4

[late grove]

I am happy with my no support because then I can be sure that things won't break.

[lyric hatch]

What company does this 👀

[astral haven]

not an option any more, google play system updates are perpetual, and without manufacturer support, youve gotta hope it keeps working

[sharp badger]

Bank apps are one of those

[astral haven]

companies dont ever support for longer than they have to
apple at least is honest enough not to make any promises

[cursive summit]

A wee bit confused by this, is this new patch (KB5041587) for 23H2 the same as 24H2 one, cause it gets none of the performance upgrades that Hardware Unboxed reported on https://youtu.be/xsFi2ZDefBk

Zen 5 in general is confusing to me, I remember Quin being incredibly hyped for that 20%+ better performance few months back, and Arrow Lake likely sucking, which is all the weirder that it seems tables are in fact turned around

[gusty kiln]

Vex rises from the dead

[cursive summit]

For today only

[final flame]

[sharp badger]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/27/24229443/microsoft-windows-11-update-24h2-ryzen-cpu-performance-improvement Late September for the 24H2

[lyric hatch]

Idk 3 years of updates ain't enough for me I've been using my s21 for 3.5 years and still get monthly security patches - don't plan on upgrading for at least another year

[astral haven]

so 6 months with only google play security is too long for you?

[lyric hatch]

Feels like Sony is really doing the bare minimum to hit EU laws

[astral haven]

🤷 ofc it would be nice if anyone else made competitive devices

but if you want everything, they are the only option

[lyric hatch]

Gave up on headphone jack a while ago and joined the darkside

[halcyon moss]

I got the s21u, still feels like a fast phone

[sharp badger]

Have been living the TWS & dongle life for a while

[final flame]

I mean, when every headphone jack sucks, dongles just are better

only one I know that's decent is on sony phones

[astral haven]

sd card, non screen fingerprint reader, low bloat, usbc with video, flagship soc

[astral haven]

the samsung one was nice while it lasted

[final flame]

note 9 one doesn't sound that good imo, very low power

[sharp badger]

Personally don't have a need for a SD card & never had on phones

[lyric hatch]

That's true my s21 has a SD card reader, usb c with video - I guess some things have changed recently with samsungs newer phones

[final flame]

sd card is very useful for photos or music or movies

[late grove]

Still baffling that gaming phones do not support SD cards.

[final flame]

any kind of large storage content

[astral haven]

s8 had 2v into 300 ohms, not sure what happened

[umbral heron]

Music
Plop it from the old phone to new - done

[late grove]

You would expect those to be the first phones to include one.

[astral haven]

why? the mobile games even tho they are as bloated as desktop games, a game with 1GB of content balooning into 14GB is still quite manageable

[sharp badger]

Don't they have USB-C with video on the S24U?

[late grove]

Gaming phones are meant to be powerhouses with everything cranked to maximum. And especially with more recent mobile games storage does become a concern.

[lyric hatch]

I believe so samsung dex is still a thing

[late grove]

Or at least that was the idea at the start. Now every remaining brand that does gaming phones are trying to shove them into normal flagship formfactor and functions because techtubers can't stop bitching about them not being the same as a Samsung phone.

[gusty kiln]

yeah I use dex with my monitor through USBC sometimes

[astral haven]

same, they are the only one tho, and dont have msd or as nice cameras

[astral haven]

so get a usb ssd or something

[gusty kiln]

crazy how google has everything to implement an equivalent but just doesn't do it

[lyric hatch]

The Sony cameras are nice but the auto mode sucks which I'd say the majority of users would be using

[final flame]

cable gets in the way with your hands

would suck gaming with a cable sticking out

[astral haven]

the only gaming phone i know about has a second one on the side specifically to avoid that

[final flame]

usually that's intended for charging or a seperate cooler

[astral haven]

its the full speed video one on the rog phone...

[final flame]

could use it for a drive, although that'd probably drain the battery

[astral haven]

theyve improved it a ton, especially with the 6

[lyric hatch]

Armory crate has scarred me from ever buying an asus phone

Not that they are the same people making the software

[sharp badger]

Do have quite a lot of storage left

[astral haven]

im at 20% of my tb

[sharp badger]

I see 👀

[lyric hatch]

Got a bit left too

[steady sail]

[astral haven]

128 lel

[steady sail]

I dont need more tho xd

[astral haven]

🤨

[sudden imp]

https://youtu.be/cq4AqVNErqM?si=GCH2D3Fk0Kh16PSv

[balmy vector]

I barely use 30 gigs

[final flame]

hey at least you don't have to buy a whole new phone for more storage

[steep creek]

256gigs is solid for me

have never been able to use more than 200

[steep creek]

aha

[lyric hatch]

I think most of my storage is in manga 👀

[balmy vector]

[steady sail]

Yeah mine as well

And light novels

[astral haven]

yea this is after clearing out all the photos from my camera
after a long day of shooting ill have an extra 500gb of photo and video

[balmy vector]

[unkempt lake]

Mine is psp emulation

[astral haven]

i store it on my phone because google makes it a pain to upload to photos from desktop

[steep creek]

doesnt it upload stuff automagically?

[sharp badger]

Not to desktop

[astral haven]

It kinda can but it's janky

[steep creek]

hmm i see

[astral haven]

And it doesn't recognize most of my cameras formats

[unkempt lake]

Damn we're both at 106gb used

[steep creek]

icloud is also not as smooth on windows but it works

[steep creek]

ah thats a pain

[sharp badger]

What cameras do you have?

[astral haven]

Doubt it'll support RAWs and Sony special snowflake all I format

[astral haven]

Sony and olympus

[steep creek]

yeah makes sense

[sharp badger]

Nice

[lyric hatch]

Which ones - I want to pick up a Sony camera just not sure which one though

[astral haven]

A7iv and em1 iii

I also have an a5000 but that isn't a problem for anything

[lyric hatch]

Nice - what do you shoot normally?

[astral haven]

I'd recommend waiting, DJI is rumored to be releasing a Sony tier camera system

[astral haven]

Mostly birds, sometimes other random stuff that catches my eye

[lyric hatch]

Interesting I was also wanting to pick up a camera/lenses for birds and landscapes

[sharp badger]

Found Mansen in the wild

[balmy vector]

[astral haven]

At the moment I don't recommend Sony. They are very expensive and focused on the pros
Pro Nature has the a93 and a1 but its incredibly priced

Nikon is probably current meta for midrange, Panasonic for cheaper

[sharp badger]

Don't know why but i like the Leica cameras

[astral haven]

If you want a leica but without the bs, grab the panasonic

[sharp badger]

Ok 👀

[gusty kiln]

rip reddit is kill

[smoky frigate]

what did they do this time?

[gusty kiln]

server borked

[graceful wedge]

Dude 😭 I almost just shat myself

I was readjusting my pc because I got a desk extension, and I had my cables all in

So as I was moving my pc, the cables were stretching

So I heard a crunch noise, “oh that’s prob just the cables stretching, it’s ok”

My hdmi plugged into the gpu broke a tiny bit and bent, but everything all good. Both monitors working fine.

[steady sail]

Remember adjust ur pc when cables are not plugged in

Or just get longer cables

[graceful wedge]

Yea that’s definitely the smarter thing to do. Rather then what I did

It’s halfway on that desk extension, just because it’s weight limit is 33 pounds, and I rather not have it put so much pressure on it

I should’ve just gotten a ikea dresser

[smoky frigate]

oof lucky. a displayport cable would have probably taken the slot with it lol

[ashen spindle]

oh nvidia earnings are out

seems like a tiny miss but nothing that wont correct itself when its only down 2% atm

[graceful wedge]

I can just easily order another one right? I don’t have to worry about my refresh rate or any of that changing…?

I was going to try and take a picture for u guys but I made it just a tiny bit worse

So before the shell part was cracked a little bit, the outer part. So now I’m really going to have to pray nothing inside is damaged

It was really on its last straw dude…

[steady sail]

Just get a longer cable dude

[graceful wedge]

I was barley putting pressure on it 😭

[smoky frigate]

get another one rated to the same standard of HDMI and it will be the same

[graceful wedge]

Alr

Can someone possibly link me it on Amazon?

That would help lots

[graceful wedge]

I don’t even know if I should plug it in the gpu now, it’s getting scary by just looking at it

[smoky frigate]

https://www.amazon.com/8K-HDMI-Cable-Highwings-Braided/dp/B08M9HND4F/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&sr=1-3

[graceful wedge]

Ty

[rough patrol]

that looks like displayport

not hdmi

[graceful wedge]

The one he linked or mine?

[rough patrol]

yours

[smoky frigate]

put a better photo of it in here so we can see

from the front

[rough patrol]

just judging off the little pieces that come off

[graceful wedge]

I need to see where this plugs into

[rough patrol]

yeah thats displayport

[graceful wedge]

Is that bad?

[rough patrol]

no that just means that if you want to put something in the same port, a hdmi cable wont work

[graceful wedge]

I’m pretty sure that plugs into my old monitor, I still use it as a 2nd monitor but, glad it’s not the new main monitor

[pastel nacelle]

Why did you circumsize your display port cable?

[sharp badger]

Faster speeds lol

[graceful wedge]

It circumcised on its own

[pastel nacelle]

Warranty it now lmfao.

My cable my choice.

[graceful wedge]

I’m scared to turn on my pc now

This is a little sketchy

Feels like a fire hazard will come one day

[steady sail]

Either u just lost a display port port or nothing

[pastel nacelle]

Wrap that sucker with friction tape.

[smoky frigate]

it looks like shit but you likely have nothing to worry about

[steady sail]

And a quick question why do u use hdmi on ur main monitor instead of display port

[graceful wedge]

Both monitors are turning on which is good, I think hagseed is right

I hope so, for long gaming sessions

[pastel nacelle]

His side monitor is bigger than his main monitor?

[graceful wedge]

I have like 3 cables on my old monitor

It just came with 3 cables so I plugged them all in

[smoky frigate]

well it's technically not wrong I guess

[fickle ore]

boorinng

wheres the crash

mby q3

[gusty kiln]

wait nvidia has diviends nows?

[steady sail]

They gonna crash when ai crash lol

[gusty kiln]

my 0.01 per share

[fickle ore]

thats the buffet way /s

he got like 50 % yield on cost on Coca Cola, do the same with nvda

[gusty kiln]

damn gaming getting smaller evert quarter

[ashen spindle]

nvidia are currently generating 1.3 x of intels total net worth in one year of revenue with these numbers

no gaming is the highest it was in the last 2 years lol

[gusty kiln]

well percentage wise relative to the entire revenue

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah

[fickle ore]

NW is wrong word, to be fair intel is generating 60-70% of their marketcap each year as well.

Cant also annualize q2 revenue

[wheat plume]

OMFH
Parallel downloads in Google Play update!!!
Finally

[fickle ore]

but yeah nvidia makes more revenue/profit than intel atm easily

[ashen spindle]

oh I didnt annualize q2 I just took the last 4 quarters and assume they arent dropping lower than the lowest of that lol

[fickle ore]

Aight :p

[ashen spindle]

75% gross margins is just nasty

[pale sigil]

That took a while

[fickle ore]

rage inducing

[pale sigil]

Shame I have garbo internet

[astral haven]

g9 ii is fantastic for both of those
the kit 12-35 2.8 is pretty great for all around including landscape, although even wider can be nice (7-14 from olympus is what i have for landscapes and astro)
the 100-400 ii leica is an absolutely incredible lens for wildlife, only beat by the two olympuses that are over 2 grand and adapted lenses

[fickle ore]

tyats one hypothesis why everyone wants to move off NV given the chance

75% pisses off a lot of companies

TSM must be furious

[ashen spindle]

yeah and the other companies get pissed of at how bad it sometimes is to be a working partner of nvidia

[steady sail]

evga

[gusty kiln]

evga is like a blip for them

[ashen spindle]

yeah but thats how they treat their bigger partners too

[smoky frigate]

evga preferred suicide over working with nvidia, like some sort of samurai

[gusty kiln]

[steady sail]

But we gonna see kingpin cards from pny

[pastel nacelle]

Ya ever look up the the few machines in the world that make the architecture for these cpu/gpu?

Theres like only a handful.

[steady sail]

Thats true

[fickle ore]

Yeah the chain is long ASML, TSM, AMAT, SK Hynix, Samsung, Zeiss, KLA, LRCX etc

Who knows how many small companies for the machine parts and whatnot

[pastel nacelle]

When i look for ram its either you want hynix or sk hynix lol.

[fickle ore]

yeah iirc they're the only ones along with samsung to make hbm3e

[latent mural]

I bought liberty 4nc, they arrived today, and dammit they are chunky

the back side hurts after a hour or 3

and if I move my ears like some ppl can move their ears or closing one eye and moving ear this part hits and hurts

[pastel nacelle]

So i guess you need to see a person for custom ear pieces ya?

[latent mural]

but the sound is rly good

[ashen spindle]

https://x.com/PatrickMoorhead/status/1828893310410469838

Patrick Moorhead (@PatrickMoorhead) on X

There we have it. $NVDA TSMC mask set change to improve Blackwell yields. Metal spin baby. Knew it….

Twitter · Aug 28, 2024, 8:31 PM

[latent mural]

what do I do with my life?

[balmy vector]

you live it, enjoy it

[ashen spindle]

so blackwell delays were true and they start shipping them for revenue in 2025

@astral haven

[latent mural]

??? who plays minecraft on phone

[latent mural]

but the back of the inside of my ears hurt 😐

[pastel nacelle]

@latent mural see an otolaryngologist or search custom IEM tips for your earbuds.

[latent mural]

realizing the drawn hears are not very realistic

ears*

[balmy vector]

yeah sounds like you need a doctor to examine your condition

[latent mural]

is not the tips is mostly the backs

[pastel nacelle]

An ENT usually can make tips for hearing aids and if its standard barrels for hearing aids. Itll fit on your earbuds.

[latent mural]

but yeah normally my right ear hurts alot and I go dizzy when coming out of a swim with no ear protection

so I might die

[pastel nacelle]

Custom tips move the earbuds from sitting on your outer ear.

[latent mural]

and ive had 2 ear infection/ottite in half year so

[latent mural]

but this are chunky

and also there are smaller eartips

I could test em, M to S

idk why I have heartache x.x

and my nose dripping, i went near the ocean tho

any docs in chat

I can pay with nitro.

[astral haven]

woah
does that mean q4 24 or 25? (for "production ramp scheduled to begin")

[steady sail]

One time when I prefer my airpods lul

[ashen spindle]

fiscal Q4

so that would be somewhere Q1 2025 for normal people

[astral haven]

and is this both b100 and 5090 or just b100

[ashen spindle]

probably just b100

the respin likely doesnt affect 50 series though

so that would mean nothing still

since the issue that caused delay were supposedly in the interconnect for the 2 blackwell dies

[latent mural]

S pass the fit test yay

probs better now uwu

[astral haven]

well if they had to change the masks, they probably had to change design rules, and they i would assume have used the same design rules for the two chips?
or are they on different nodes

[ashen spindle]

well unless 5090 is also two connected chips it's not changing anything there

[astral haven]

is 5090 mcm rumor dead?

[ashen spindle]

I mean it will still sit around but there just isnt much known about it

[pastel nacelle]

Custom tips that replace the earbud itself from resting on your outer ear.

Not some throw away generic cone.

[ashen spindle]

I just dont think it's likely because that would take VERY expensive cowos packaing from data center away

[astral haven]

true

yea and if they did end up using a cheaper mcm tech, that wouldnt be using the same interconnect tech

[ashen spindle]

kopite also said 5080 not 5090 would launch first so even if we assume 5090 is mcm it wouldnt matter for the launch of the first sku

[astral haven]

as if i care about the 5080 :/

[ashen spindle]

just saying it's not changing any sku timelines

[astral haven]

yea tru

[pastel nacelle]

Mang

We need an rtx titan 5

Takes x2 pcie16 slots and holds itself up

[astral haven]

should just do this

[pastel nacelle]

I can see it now.

1600 wat power supplies.

[astral haven]

considering nvidia went down in power draw this gen vs last id say thats probably not needed

[pastel nacelle]

They should give the 5k cards that juicy nv link bridge.

[astral haven]

what for? sli is dead as a doornail

[pastel nacelle]

More vram.

[umbral heron]

ALL the VRAM

[astral haven]

unless they switch to fiber interconnects with silicon photonics on die, itll never be fast enough for gaming

[late grove]

3D core stacking when?

[pastel nacelle]

I want my jankocalypse mods to work without crashing in Fallout 4 @_@

[astral haven]

when 2d copackaging isnt doing it any more

[astral haven]

just get an a6000 ada

[late grove]

A bit off topic but is anyone else excited for Barlett Lake? I may not even have to wait for 2026 for my mass upgrade in that case.

[astral haven]

theres no more hopium for intel only copium now

[umbral heron]

We're going for 350W with this one

[astral haven]

xeon wx is proof that they cant make a nice p core desktop chip even if they try

[ashen spindle]

what do you mean? it beats threadripper!

...in AI

[astral haven]

does it still?

i thought tr avx512 was crushing it

[ashen spindle]

that was the headline I saw xD

[late grove]

Xeons are different. Same as Threadrippers they suck in latency heavy tasks like gamings because they are multiple dies glued together.

[astral haven]

lemme introduce you to xeon wx

[late grove]

Barlett Lake supposed to be 12P core die with no interconnects.

[astral haven]

the w7? 2495x is a 24p die with no interconnects

[umbral heron]

8P+16E or 12P?

[late grove]

If you find someone who tried to game on it without downclocking it to 2 ghz please let me know.

[late grove]

12P only

[astral haven]

no, there are 2 different dies rumored

[umbral heron]

I meant variants of Bartlett Lake
Surely they won't drop hybrid arch anytime soon

[pastel nacelle]

How to mod datacenter gpu to have x2 display port?

[ashen spindle]

Bartlett lake is NEX aka networking maybe embedded, you wont get it on consumer

[late grove]

Oh well that's the same as Raptor Lake so I don't think anyone should care about those.

[steep creek]

i’m on the copium train for intel. i just don’t want amd to become the sole monopoly here

[astral haven]

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-RTXA6000-Lovelace-GDDR6-Graphics/dp/B0BNYSNKQ3
buy it on amazon

[pastel nacelle]

How does a cpu corrode if you removed the heatsink?

[late grove]

My roommate is running 14700F. My 10900K is 5% behind which is kinda hilarious.

He is probably heavily gutted by memory but I still did not expect it to matter that much.

[pastel nacelle]

Nah fam were living in the furniture we need 128gb of vram for no raisin.

[umbral heron]

Sure, I want Intel to go back in the game
But I'm not buying Intel anytime soon

[pastel nacelle]

Y not

It only had 1 generation of bad cpu batch.

Vs ati taking big poops in the past.

[steep creek]

yeah i won’t be buying a cpu as long as mine is fast enough. but im open for buying an intel cpu in the future

[pastel nacelle]

It had 13th gen and 13.5 gen issues. Just a blip.

[late grove]

Just lock your cores people

[pastel nacelle]

I already got my rma done in a day.

God i love microcenter.

And my credit card.

[umbral heron]

When I buy a CPU I want it to work
I don't want to worry about locking cores or that my CPU will spontaneously commit self death

[steep creek]

i expect the cpu to be good enough to run stock. not going to modify it in any sort of way especially at that price

[pastel nacelle]

That happened once lol.

I doubt intel is going to floop the sheep.

[late grove]

Single core boost shananigans has been plagueing CPUs since Zen 2. Only a matter of time before AMD CPUs also start cooking themselves.

[umbral heron]

If they fix the issues and fix their reputation, then sure, maybe I'll consider them in the future
But Ryzens currently do everything better and cheaper

[astral haven]

intel is well known for doubling down on bad nonsense

[late grove]

I also want for everything to work optimally out of the box but this is the sad reality we live in.

[pastel nacelle]

I remember ati cooking their gpus

[astral haven]

in what world do you ever release itanium 2?

[pastel nacelle]

For 5 gens

[ashen spindle]

btw this is the thing they win over threadripper in

because it uses AMX and zen5 threadripper isnt out yet

[pastel nacelle]

I have 5 burned radeon gpus

From 2007-2010

[astral haven]

ah
both get clapped by nvidia there probably?

[latent mural]

kinky and expensive

[ashen spindle]

cool and gpus do not matter for comparing cpus, different product

[latent mural]

btw

[umbral heron]

BTW Something something about Intel moving away from SMT?

[latent mural]

the tech is on the bud

if u remove the bud then no tech?

[ashen spindle]

yes SMT is gone on arrow lake

[umbral heron]

[latent mural]

[late grove]

Arrow Lake dead on arrival. We are in the CPU stagnation era.

[ashen spindle]

its fine it's just a different design, but funny that amd can get near perfect scaling without issue

[steep creek]

lol

[ashen spindle]

they wont lose out in multicore performance from it, the design is made for it

[umbral heron]

Yeah, I'm staying by me Ryzen

[pastel nacelle]

GTX 770 was the goat

[ashen spindle]

bro thats still not a cpu

[steep creek]

[late grove]

Ryzen 4070 will be the goat 🔥 🔥

[pastel nacelle]

Intel 570 then >:3

[ashen spindle]

the celeron from 2008?

what are you even talking about

[astral haven]

yea but it does matter when comparing a workload
topaz' ai section is what it is, and you spend the extra money on the tool for the job
its not like you can use 2 different ai accelerators at the same time, you have to pick one

[ashen spindle]

oh that wasnt as reply to the xeon/TR that was to him talking about radegon gpus when its intel vs amd cpus

like one burning doesnt mean the other burns

like intel failing cpus or not doesnt mean their networking is doing the same, its just different products

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

should have used a vodoofx image

[umbral heron]

Ah, that would've been way better

[steep creek]

with arm branding to replace amd at the slot

[pastel nacelle]

The i5 was better than those athlon cpus

[ashen spindle]

who cares what was the case 15 years ago lol

[astral haven]

prior to 5000 series, amd was last on top with the athlon64 which was 2004ish

[umbral heron]

Athlon was great
Poke with multimeter until you find pins with biggest resistance, solder them to USB, plug to powerbank and you have cheap hand warmer

[astral haven]

for radeon their last claim at the top was with the very questionable 295x2

[balmy vector]

I love all my little warming devices, free heat therapy

[gaunt beacon]

hello guys i have a question i just received my wooting and how do i use like alt f4 because the fn key don't work

[ashen spindle]

https://wooting.io/quickstart

[umbral heron]

Do you have Fn key in the very bottom right corner of your keyboard or one key to the left?

[gaunt beacon]

yes but i have iso french for the keyboard

[gusty kiln]

Fury and 7 were weird follow ups

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-r9-295-x2/images/power_maximum.gif

[gaunt beacon]

like very bottom right is ctrl and just the left of it is the fn key*

[umbral heron]

Should be like this

[gusty kiln]

oh yeah and vega

[steep creek]

646 watts? oh wow

[ashen spindle]

7 was a sop gap because rdna1 needed to be delayed

[gaunt beacon]

at the place of ctrl there is fn on mine*

[gusty kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[umbral heron]

Yeah, swap those keycaps

[gaunt beacon]

its like this mine

[umbral heron]

There's an error in quickstart guide, Fn should be in the very corner for all layouts

[gaunt beacon]

even in french ?*

[pastel nacelle]

Keyboards need foot pedals for shift, alt and control.

[umbral heron]

In ALL layouts

[gusty nexus]

Baguette

[gaunt beacon]

aight but even if i change it

it don't work

[pastel nacelle]

Remember when thermal paste didn't cost a lot of money.

[gaunt beacon]

🇫🇷

[umbral heron]

Press the key in the very corner, Alt and 4 and check if it works

[gusty nexus]

La France !

[gaunt beacon]

YES

[gusty nexus]

😅

[gaunt beacon]

yes yes yes

[gaunt beacon]

damn that work idk why it didnt work before

thanks G

[ashen spindle]

not sure if earnings call is done already or not but seems like the trend is still down

[pastel nacelle]

Cest oui es brazil

[umbral heron]

English

[pastel nacelle]

Im not even french

[gusty kiln]

both amd and intel have similar downward shape

[gusty nexus]

[ashen spindle]

yeah market overall is down but nobody else is down 7%

[pastel nacelle]

Je m'appelle chinese.

I learned French from a dancing gummy bear.

I learned spanish from league of legends memes.

[gusty kiln]

lmao, Jensen was a little salty about the ZT acquisition in the call

[ashen spindle]

lol got a transcript link or did you just listen in?

[gusty kiln]

"we used to be able to service ZT.. they were recently purchased"

someone on the earnings reddit page

[ashen spindle]

hahaha

[gusty kiln]

lmao everyone use the same music

the same one HWU uses

[astral haven]

https://images.hothardware.com/contentimages/article/3455/content/ff-1-xeon-w7-2595x-performance.png
welp new gen released, and it looks pretty miserable still

[ashen spindle]

max boost of 4.8 yeah thats not gaming

[astral haven]

https://images.hothardware.com/contentimages/article/3455/content/oc-4-xeon-w7-2595x-performance.png
shame they dont show cpu only, but assuming the cpu idles at 0w, bumping from 320 to 360w doesnt help at all
https://images.hothardware.com/contentimages/article/3455/content/power-2-xeon-w7-2595x-performance.png

also their 9950x test system idled 100w lower...

[ashen spindle]

not the best benchmark for cpus though you are very much hitting the gpu in parts of that

wonder if roman upgrades his xeon workstation for fun again or if even he skips this and we wont get much content about this gen lol

[astral haven]

https://images.hothardware.com/contentimages/article/3455/content/talos-1-xeon-w7-2595x-performance.png
this is the only other benchmark besides ff with some cpus not being gpu bottlenecked
every single other one the entire range of scores was within 5%

https://images.hothardware.com/contentimages/article/3455/content/f1-1-xeon-w7-2595x-performance.png

great very helpful

[ashen spindle]

lmao nice tests

[gusty kiln]

what gpu are they using?

[ashen spindle]

yeah was looking for that but cant find it

[astral haven]

oh ffs

[ashen spindle]

lmfao

[astral haven]

whyyy

[gusty kiln]

lmao 4070 SUper

[ashen spindle]

why did they even bother doing 4k tests with that setup

[astral haven]

and oh great just give the ws platforms double the ram capacity too

[gusty kiln]

several grand of CPUs, won't get a 4090

[ashen spindle]

well ram is fair game you are not going to run those with just two sticks

[astral haven]

true
and 4 sticks might hurt the other platforms

[ashen spindle]

they are already hindering by not using 6000 on those so ws already has an advantage in this comparison

or rather isnt getting the worst comparison

[astral haven]

well ws can also run 6000

and because ecc, theres less risk

[late grove]

Yes that's exactly what I meant.

[astral haven]

its exactly what you asked for, intel just cant deliver...

[late grove]

That result from the Xeon makes no sense unless there is a bottleneck somewhere else.

The other screens you posted make more sense

[astral haven]

it is able to match the rest of the cpus as long as theres a gpu bottleneck?

obviously?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162158
also holy smokes asrock did some cost cutting to make a $500 board for these

this is becoming more interesting

excuse me what

https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/13-162-158-07.jpg
https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/13-162-113-01.jpg

$380 of cost cutting, all you lose is 2xtb4, 1x10g, and wifi

[ashen spindle]

thats cool

[astral haven]

and it still retains 1x10g and 1x2.5

[ashen spindle]

cool that ws is getting cheaper but also kinda sad that thats's the only way it's getting attractive lol

[astral haven]

da pcie tho

[ashen spindle]

shimada peak wont come soon I bet so it does have some usecase I guess

[astral haven]

and https://www.cdw.com/product/micron-ddr5-module-128-gb-dimm-288-pin-5600-mhz-pc5-44800-reg/7946438
how about 1tb of ram workstation today?

oh wait not on asrock qvl rip

[ashen spindle]

yeah you dont want to try non validated ram in these massive cpacities haha

[astral haven]

https://harddiskdirect.com/mtc40f204ws1rc56bb1-1677997.html
768gb time

wait howtf is quad rankx48GB working but not quad rank x64gb

[ashen spindle]

24/48 sticks are easier on the memory controller than 32/64

[astral haven]

even tho both are dual rank sticks?

[ashen spindle]

supposedly so

think micron mentioned that in some video when the new sizes got introduced

[astral haven]

interesting

well maybe they will add 128 when they update the qvl for 2500x

[fair gull]

so many x16 slots

how many are actually wired to be x16

[astral haven]

2 lel

2x8 and 1x4

[astral haven]

yea they are 5.0 besides the last one and theres no reconfiguring bs

its always got 48x 5.0 on slots regardless of m.2 or anything else

[pale sigil]

I think with an eGPU my laptop would be so nice.

[astral haven]

😬 be careful, egpu has issues

[pale sigil]

Ye I'm aware they ain't perfect

Current setup

[spare wedge]

Is that a google stadia controller…

[astral haven]

doesnt look like asus, so that means thunderbolt?

[ashen spindle]

it is asus

[astral haven]

hunh i cant read

[ashen spindle]

vivobook with an 8840hs iirc

[astral haven]

since when did pixels take such awful pics

either way it doesnt look like any of the rog machines that have that fancy x8 pcie connector

[ashen spindle]

https://www.asus.com/uk/laptops/for-home/vivobook/asus-vivobook-s-15-oled-m5506/

[late grove]

Reminds me of my vacation setup.

[spare wedge]

All phone cameras are pretty bad in general

[ashen spindle]

ah was a8945hs

[astral haven]

no they arent, get gud

[pale sigil]

Low light

[pale sigil]

No

[pale sigil]

Also uw lens

Also discord compression

[astral haven]

googles low light algs are the best in the business, and id bet i could beat that with photoncam

[astral haven]

now this makes more sense

either way no xg station rog whatever

[pale sigil]

Hmm?

[astral haven]

https://www.amazon.com/External-GeForce-Low-Latency-Connection-GC31S-004/dp/B0BS792JBX?th=1
the only other real egpu option besides thunderbolt, and it wont work with your laptop

[lyric hatch]

cozy setup - do you have two trays? one for food one for gaming

[pale sigil]

I wouldn't want to spend that much anyway

[astral haven]

https://egpu.io/best-egpu-buyers-guide/
i can recommend getting something with a slot, and your existing gpu

unless your existing gpu is radeon

i went with the razer core x (non rgb)

[pale sigil]

Also I don't even think I have thunderbolt

[pale sigil]

Unfortunately most of them just aren't sold here

[astral haven]

thunderbolt = usb4 + intel certified

[pale sigil]

Oh so as long as I have USB 4

[astral haven]

ye

[pale sigil]

Well tbh the one quin linked is wrong

I don't think I have USB 4

Indeed I don't

[astral haven]

model?

[pale sigil]

So ye I can't use it.

https://www.asus.com/uk/laptops/for-home/vivobook/asus-vivobook-s-15-oled-m5506/techspec/

Us the model but it was rereleased?

As you can see the cpu in the description is very different to the spec on the site 🤣

[astral haven]

https://www.asus.com/bt/laptops/for-home/vivobook/asus-vivobook-s-15-oled-m5506/techspec/

[pale sigil]

Yes but it's not the same laptop

Look at the cpu

Oh

Hmm....

I don't have the UA

Is there anyway to find out on the laptop itself.

[astral haven]

plug in a tb4 device and make sure its running at full speed :/

[pale sigil]

Lol

[astral haven]

can check device manager and pray

should be under usb controllers

[pale sigil]

The manual isn't helpful

[astral haven]

lol
is there a usbc with a different logo on it from the rest?

[pale sigil]

I can confirm it's USB 4

[astral haven]

sweet

doesnt mean itll be a good certified™️ egpu experience but itll work

[astral haven]

but yea i gave amazon couk a peek and its pretty miserable for egpu options

[pale sigil]

Indeed

I don't really want to try the second hand market

[astral haven]

theres not a whole ton to go wrong with an egpu dock

[pale sigil]

I would prefer to have an aio

But I would like to try

Second hand has a lot of risk

And because of the bleak market the Razer core x is extremely overpriced second hand

Oh https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=8886419382737&gad_source=1

Out of curiosity would this even work

Also a Razer Core V2?

[astral haven]

blocked for me

core v2 should work but i believe it sacrifices some bandwidth or something?

[astral haven]

with vpn, yea this is what ive got, it worked great for me

altho the psu fan is a bit annoying

[pale sigil]

Part of me wants to but like

Idk where I'm going to be in 2 months

[astral haven]

well considering it was $300 6 years ago, it seems to hold its resale value pretty well

[pale sigil]

Still better than my original plan of spending £1500+ 😅

I got this laptop for £580

[astral haven]

and you can always get the gpu you were going to get for the new system even if you dont want to have your fam yoink the gpu from your current pc

[pale sigil]

I would get my friend to do it tbh

Anyway, I should really sleep

[astral haven]

right, uk time, gn

[pale sigil]

I get woken up 8am everyday, I can fall back to sleep but then I don't stick to my routine for stuff I would rather not say.

😅

[astral haven]

👀

[unkempt lake]

Seems like a plan

[final flame]

zamn

wonder how a duo 2080ti sli would compare against 40 series

[steady sail]

nvidia's golden age the 10 series

[final flame]

1080ti was the dream

[steady sail]

true

[pastel nacelle]

1080+ti is juice.

gaming in ultra 1080p

at room temp

[gaunt beacon]

nice crosshair

[late grove]

Dual 3090s can beat a 4090

[thin axle]

Kinda irrelavent, since they no longer support SLI.

[late grove]

And in todays economy 2 3090s will be cheaper than 1 4090

[thin axle]

I'm sure the 5090 will be insanely overpriced.

[pastel nacelle]

not at best buy :3

i got a coupon for 15% for any item

[gusty kiln]

Total Tech member?

or whatever it is called these days

[verbal nimbus]

at least 1.2k is getting spent after the coupon

im most likely going to get the 5070 super

[pastel nacelle]

i have some rewards unredeemed with my bestbuy program card

plus the bestbuy i buy from discounts military

[thin axle]

I think best buy has a birthday 10% off coupon, but who knows if it's gunna work on a thousand plus video card. 😛

[vagrant pagoda]

room temp was opntial

[vagrant pagoda]

3090 ti's will only sli in synth benchmarks if you want any modern driver version

[thin axle]

Yeah... even when I did have SLI cards, it was a minor improvement in performance on nvidia 😦

[vagrant pagoda]

the only driver version that has any gaming sli support for them is 512.16

[vagrant pagoda]

nah loads of games scale well

its just as many dont

and some even do worse

[thin axle]

I got about 10% more FPS, it was anemic.

[slim fox]

hey guys i just bought a wooting keyboard and i'm now looking to buy a mouse to pair up with the keyboard although i don't know any good options. what mice do you guys use or prefer? doesn't necessarily have to go hand to hand with the keyboard although suggestions would be cool

[lyric hatch]

yeah SLI for gaming has been dead for years

even when it was supported it was still buggy

1% lows usually abysmal

[thin axle]

I like Zowie, and Elecom mouses. But there are many options out there @slim fox o

[slim fox]

zowie mouse looks really cool, what do you like abut it?

[gusty kiln]

softwareless

Vaxee is also an option

[thin axle]

If you want a basic mouse that's wired. Zowie makes them, they work, they're reliable, and they come in many different shapes for left/right/ambi and the different hand shapes like claw, pinch, etc.

[slim fox]

i've actually never thought about softwareless mice.. that does sound nice

i hear a lot about the logitech g pro x superlight. is it worth the money?

the zowie mouse is like $40-$60 bucks cheaper and if it's not really worth the money, think i'm gonna go with the zowie

[thin axle]

I have had bad luck with logitech. Also seem overpriced in my opinion.

[gusty kiln]

not really worth, but I got it because of the best in class battery life

and I find the shape very comfortable

20x10 cm hands

[slim fox]

fair enough fair enough

thank you for the suggestions, def gonna take a deeper look into the zowie mouse

[gusty kiln]

I think like 110-120 for the GPX2 would be fair

[slim fox]

is that also made by logitceh? or is that a different brand

oh

you think

the price should be lowered

[gusty kiln]

GPX2 is short for G PRO X Superlight 2

[slim fox]

i see

[gusty kiln]

did you want wired or wireless?

[thin axle]

I have gone to a bunch of large gaming lans, I found out about zowie when there was some fortnite players using them.

[lyric hatch]

would recommend Vaxee, very similar to Zowie but better priced and better specs

but honestly mice just come down to what shape suits you best

[gusty kiln]

yeah

gotta start with your grip style

https://www.vaxee.co/en/product.php?act=view&id=239

LMAO Vaxee doing vtuber collabs now

[lyric hatch]

very subtle collab, I don't hate it

[slim fox]

doesn't matter to me tbh

[slim fox]

this is good to know because i really don't wanna overthink about it tbh

the logitech g pro x superlight does look like it has a nice shape

[lyric hatch]

it is a pretty safe shape, it's not going to be uncomfortable for most people at the very least

[alpine patio]

low key

gpx2 is not the safest shape lmao

its like a bar of soap half the time

[trim crane]

whats funny is that i have never tried the GPX shape

i have owned the ULX Tiger, Beast X Max, and Sword X

they all feel nice

they are all just mice I wouldnt use though...

just because of their availability

[sudden imp]

I guess that’s the struggle with niche mice QC and availability. Hopefully both gets fixed with these kinds of mice growing in popularity.

[dapper tendon]

guys someone know if is possible to put the key ~ in esc in fnlayer? like, some keyboard cant like atk68
i search about, but i dont found nothing

[analog sinew]

using dks or modtap it shoild be possible

[terse meadow]

yea

[dapper tendon]

so using the base software dont?

[analog sinew]

~ isnt a base layer key

on basicslly every layout

its only accessibke via key combinations

[dapper tendon]

hmmmmm

[analog sinew]

but thats what dks is for

[digital cliff]

it's because of how keycodes work, ~ is "shift+`" on US layout for example, so you have to sort of make a macro for "shift+`" and bind it where you want

there is no such thing as a keyboard just sending x symbol, it sends keycodes and what those do is dependent on the layout you have active

[wild vigil]

my GPX1 just died and i cannot get it to turn on again. anybody good recommendations for a new mouse. i was looking at the HTR from gwolfs

[sturdy raven]

Been using Pulsar X2V2 for almost a year without issues

[torn chasm]

what are some nice looking rgb settings

[wild vigil]

I'm using this

[sturdy raven]

I prefer static orange

[torn chasm]

wow what keyboard os this

looks so different

[wild vigil]

nuphy

[torn chasm]

ooh havent tried orange yet

i bought some new keycaps and lube for my wooting

[wild vigil]

i think its nuphy field HE

[wild vigil]

which keycaps?

[sturdy raven]

Nuphy Field75 HE with Piifox Wandering Plan keycaps

My TwoHE with Carbon keycaps

[wild vigil]

damn

looks really clean

i was looking at the wandering earth II keycaps

whats the quality of your caps?

[sturdy raven]

No complaints, seems well made. It’s dye sub so the printing might wear out eventually compared to double shot

Double shot carbon showing some wear

[wild vigil]

ill first need to buy a new mouse so ill wait for keycaps

but thx for the info

[rough osprey]

😼

[balmy vector]

Hope you enjoy the oled experience

[rough osprey]

coming from oled so

the funny thing is

the real reviews will release next week

asus nda kinda uh

[balmy vector]

[raw zephyr]

tell me how it is, looking to upgrade my pg27aqn

[rough osprey]

will do

[umbral heron]

Is OLED really that worth it over IPS?
And is it a good idea to get it if I'm working and there's mostly static image, I'm scared of burn-ins

[reef patrol]

I kept my last monitor for almost a decade. So I wouldn't bet on anything with a known risk of permanent damage.

(Also I'd absolutely throw it out the window from sheer OCD if it did burn in something)

[umbral heron]

[lean depot]

Hi guys! i building my first custom keyboard and worry to not to miss smth
I ll list what i buy please tell me is smth wrong or missing:
From kbdfans:
+Tofu60 Redux Case acrylic + Brass weight bar
+Carbon fiber ANSI Plate
From wooting site: Wooting 60HE+ Module ( ANSI United States PC Switch Plate)
+Wooting Double Shot Backlit PBT Keycap Set
From gatheron site: Gatheron Jade pro switches 70 pack

Is that all what i need to make my keyboard and it's good choices? will much appreciate advices

[lean depot]

i have it, very good monitor, only good vibes after 1 year use

[steady sail]

ppl in #🔧│keyboard_modding could help but for me it looks good :D

[rough osprey]

dont think you got the same

[lean depot]

ty i ll ask there sorry for spam

[lean depot]

ahh maybe, my aqdm probbaly

[rough osprey]

ye this is the 480hz one lol

[lean depot]

wow what a hell 2k with 480, looks like cs/val monitor priority if they don;t have very good gsync or mode to change hz

[reef patrol]

Might want to ask about that Carbon Fiber plate you're considering over in #🔧│keyboard_modding
The 60HE Module already comes with a PC Plate and silicone kit for sound and feel.

[lean depot]

I m on 4090 12700 and most of games pretty difficult to use with 240 hz in 2k at least
except cs/val

[lean depot]

ye probably i need to skip it, i just saw it in video but not sure i really need

and there no more parts to buy looks like right?

all that things will be possible to combine by hands at home (i hope)

[reef patrol]

Aside from a PH1 screwdriver, you have everything to assemble and plug in your keyboard.

[lean depot]

Standart screwdriver right? ye i have a lot of course

[lean depot]

just checked it super new, looks crazy

[reef patrol]

Just needs to be a PH1 tip.

Philips head, verycommon. Just gotta make sure it's the right size, so you don't risk stripping a screw.

[lean depot]

ty! i will check my to make sure or ll buy ph1 in tools shop

[umbral heron]

Also make sure that you'll get 4mm bit, 1/4" one won't fit

[lean depot]

Ty! i think i need to buy it i iwll have a look before my keyboard and all arrive

[reef patrol]

If in doubt can always bring the board with you to the shop. Just gotta make sure it fits in the hole and isn't to wide 😄

[quaint dew]

already??

[rough osprey]

why not

[quaint dew]

didnt even know u could buy it yet lol

[rough osprey]

i saw it on a random shop last week lol

was deleted a day after

[balmy vector]

[quaint dew]

lmao

[rough osprey]

has anyone experience with asus monitor updates

this is taking ages

scared i bricked it

[lean depot]

Wooting Switch Lube set no so important?
and Wooting Detachable USB-C Cable Set i hope without it just default cable is ok 🙂

[rugged siren]

Do you know which day next week? I'm eyeing this monitor and want to pull the trigger. Kinda unsure about the text clarity however. That and the oled burn in shenanigans ofc. But considering ips glow looks kinda shit from the start idk if i would mind the inevitable slight burn in

[rough osprey]

not sure when

[steady sail]

The default cable is fine tho if u want something fancy yeah the cable mod is goated, and all the lekker switches are factory lubed

[rough osprey]

if u want i can compare text clarity compared to the 240hz oled

[lean depot]

i hope gatheron jade pro lubed enough to no need buy extra lub 🙂

[steady sail]

Its up to you after that if u wanted to hand lube it or no

[rough osprey]

underrated feature of the lgs is the leds

nice background light on wall

[lean depot]

Ty for reply i think it will be ok
And btw pbt keycap is better than abs right?
And what switches you recommend the most if no secret? i mstill compare about them but hope jade pro will be good choice for get smth i will no dissapoint

[steady sail]

If u after sounds i would go with RAW he but other than that everything is preference

[rugged siren]

Its fine, thanks for offering though:) Ill await the reviews

[quaint dew]

tolerances

raw HE have better tolerances than jades

and they have 3 different bottom out weight options

so really the only preference is like aesthetics lmao

or if you like rattle

[pale sigil]

@astral haven what's the difference between the Razer core x and v2

[halcyon moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59rxyjB1xws

making fun of an nft conference

[ashen spindle]

yeah I have no clue how this shit is still going on

just like some cult I guess

[thin axle]

Hold up. The jade pro aren't meta anymore? Where do you find the measurements??

[pale sigil]

https://youtu.be/zFMTJm3vmh0

Honestly impressive still

Sounds like my perfect laptop when gen 2 is a thing

[ashen spindle]

why make any expectations about the future based on an existing product

especially on the laptop side

[pale sigil]

Surely it'll get better :p

[ashen spindle]

oh and you think amd/intel will not?

[pale sigil]

I love the idea of arm based laptops a lot but just don't want a Mac

[pale sigil]

True

[ashen spindle]

no you dont like the idea of arm, you like the idea that people make arm out to be what it isn't

lunar lake is out in like a week from intel and could just beat it in everything

[pale sigil]

We'll see

I just don't see it being as power efficient

[umbral heron]

Rule x86, x86 rule the world

[ashen spindle]

is a steam deck not power efficent?

[pale sigil]

No

Well, I mean it's impressive.

But these snapdragon laptops are even beating MacBooks with battery life etc

[ashen spindle]

now consider that steam deck is essentially leftover chips that were supposed for laptops, now imagine if microsoft would have went with them and actually asked for more efficent chips the generation after instead of ditching the project

could've had laptops with steam deck apu in 2021 and improvements over it since then

but they werent made because nobody wanted them from the oems

so that's not something arm is better at if x86 makes it and it didn't land any sales

[quaint dew]

we don't know how jade pro are

but raw he beat normal jades

source is the many people in #🔧│keyboard_modding who have used both

[umbral heron]

Jades Pro came out last week

[alpine patio]

dyson made another headphone

jesus

[severe phoenix]

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-599-SE-Headphone/dp/B07RFNZYJZ

[late grove]

They are limited by X86. Unless the whole arm thing will suddenly get abandoned, x86 is hard limited to how much it can scale.

[nimble canopy]

what does arm have that x86 doesent in which x86 has a hard limit and arm doesent

[thin axle]

I dunno, when you go for single core performance, you have N100 chips that do it pretty well in the low power market. They're also cheap, in the $100-150 ballpark.

[ashen spindle]

implementation matters, ISA doesn't

[steep creek]

backwards compatibility is also quite nice for x86

[umbral heron]

I mean you want ARM for efficiency and battery life

And then you put Windows on it

[ashen spindle]

no arm is also not better in efficency

[nimble canopy]

[ashen spindle]

the current chip designs maybe, but thats not because of arm

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/white-famous-its-that-duality-of-man-shit-man-duality-deep-gif-10346120

[ashen spindle]

they dont use arm because it's better or worse than x86, they use it because they cant use x86 due to licensing and risc-v came later

so if you have but one option you use that option

[nimble canopy]

it also doesent help that arm hase prety much always been used in low power aplications while x86 in high power
so designing for maximum effiecience was never realy a desig goal in x86

[ashen spindle]

correct

intel missed the boat on phones so they never got a foot in there or we could have years of super low power x86 chips

[nimble canopy]

but now with the m1 and seeing how important battery time is amd and intell care a lot more about eff

[ashen spindle]

yesn't

they care about what OEMs want from them

and if lenovo and microsoft and co didnt care for great low power devices there was no point making them

which is how van gogh ended up in the steam deck because the surface team ended up not wanting them anymore after making the order

[late grove]

https://youtu.be/uX4d7PElB5M

[ashen spindle]

the other issue for amd is since they had to make a basically fresh start they are using just one core design from laptop to server so that does limit it a bit more in what they can do, but that should change starting the following generation hopefully

[reef patrol]

About damn time. Having it both ways has been terrible for years.

Having to play "Is the thing I'm looking for in Nu Control Panel or Old control panel?" every time I needed something is so tiresome.

Scrapping it means we can complain specifically about missing functionality, without anyone going "err actually it's somewhere in the mostly hidden old control panel... probably... fuck you"

[pastel nacelle]

They did this like they removed the sound mixer from windows 7 in 10.

[astral haven]

V2 has USB and ethernet ports, but only fits true 2 slot GPUs
X upgrades the PSU and fits 2.75 slot GPUs
Chroma adds back the USB and ethernet with the larger GPU support

[sudden imp]

https://youtu.be/me7tCDPAlw4?si=8RPVCvqZ4ozxC1l3

[pale sigil]

Soooo which one XD

[ashen spindle]

does your gpu fit it the smaller one? you can answer which one for yourself based on that and pricing

[astral haven]

Cheapest one that fits your gpu

[river socket]

is it normal? while playing hitman

[ashen spindle]

yes

[thin axle]

16gb, I'm impressed. I use 48gb x4 myself

[trim crane]

then imagine putting linux on it

[pastel nacelle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/s_oh_NeIXME?si=H5RyjOZ9gMIWPvLS

Love these videos.

[gusty kiln]

Waiting for the downturn of nand pricing

Always a hot price fixing item

[ashen spindle]

thats not happening before the ai bubble stops

[digital cliff]

come on guys invest into AI now! bout to make a breakthrough for real

[vapid ruin]

Not sure~~~ Unless gpt5 is better than gpt4 by a magtitude

[digital cliff]

i jest

[fair gull]

first you have to buy into AI mice

[digital cliff]

like quin says it's kindof a bubble right now, with everything and everyone forcing AI into their product in the form of a chatgpt wrapper of somekind because it's the hot new thing now

[cedar fog]

having used gpt4 for asking questions about algorithms

and pros and cons

it regurgitates so much and you have to correct it

☠️

[digital cliff]

same I used gpt4 once to teach me about mathematics (with the wolfram alpha plugin and all) and it consistently got shit wrong

[cedar fog]

as controversial as it is I'm much more interested in AI for models in the 3D space or texturing

[digital cliff]

in the end having learned what I needed it was more me correcting the AI than it teaching me

[vapid ruin]

Me just want AI to be my waifu

[cedar fog]

I think ai is gonna stay regardless and having more tools for people with less resources is nice

[digital cliff]

yeah it's awesome in parts but for more complex, factual tasks it hallucinates too much to be very useful

[pale sigil]

https://community.getmailspring.com/t/outlook-account-keeps-getting-authentication-error/8301/27

[digital cliff]

for stuff like summarizing, it's awesome

[pale sigil]

ms be doing everything to force you to use outlook clients pft

[digital cliff]

cuts down on your research time by hours

[cedar fog]

yeah used it a few times to find related libraries

etc

very good at getting a quick idea of something but can't trust it at all

[digital cliff]

indeed

[cedar fog]

I also don't like how much they can conform the model to a specific agenda

open source is better for that regard

like how long til they start giving ad space for products or results in the responses

[pale sigil]

fuck google too

[sudden imp]

What are you trying to access?

[pale sigil]

im using mailspring

[unkempt lake]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/emudeck-machines-retro-emulation-console-pc

Apparently we're getting an emudeck console

?_?

[pale sigil]

is it worth having an authenticator for google when they use 2fa prompts

[unkempt lake]

It's so fucking annoying

Google does it the worst

[pale sigil]

wdym

[unkempt lake]

Their 2fa prompt is just

So slowwwwww

Or they ask you some stupid crap

Like open youtube

[pale sigil]

not for me

its instanit

[unkempt lake]

Having to open a random google app to get into my account is cringe

I like the way ms handles their authenticator

[astral haven]

even on iphone it gives you a notification that you just tap on and it closes once its done

[unkempt lake]

I am on iphone

XD

Generally it asks me some stupid crap like open youtube

And i'm like god damn it

I do have notifications off on like anything non essential tho

[astral haven]

on android it automatically opens in the foreground

[unkempt lake]

Maybe if i had the notifications on on youtube and every sinngle google app

I wouldn't be annoyed at it

[astral haven]

you just need 1

blame apple for having such awful notification management

[pale sigil]

No one answered my question

[cedar fog]

yes

[astral haven]

but only if your authenticator is separate from the device that you get 2fa prompts on

[cedar fog]

I love Google 2fa the best with my pixel

[pale sigil]

yesnt

[cedar fog]

they usually just send me a notification like is this you yes / no

[astral haven]

yea but sometimes you dont have the phone

i have the codes on my watch

[sudden imp]

I’m debating on trying to figure out passkeys

the FIDO standard would be so cool to use everyday

[astral haven]

they are fine, just poor support by everyone

[sudden imp]

Yeah that’s the issue

It’s be awesome if steam adopted it

https://passkeys.directory/

[iron wave]

It sounds like the kernel has reached a point where the C parts won't be improved if the Rust junk is involved in the improvement. That's so lame.

Source: https://vt.social/@lina/113045455229442533

[astral haven]

yea, rust is guardrails, but if you just do good code, theres no problem

[cedar fog]

the post here is basically explaining how the code isn't good lmao

regardless of them using rust or not

[umbral heron]

Heh, Linux and elitism
Who would've thought

[astral haven]

also pro tip, any website that supports yubikeys can support passkeys if you try hard enough

At least android works
Dangit apple

[iron wave]

Yeah but a part of the resistance is definitely related to that esolang. If there are improvements to the C codebase to be had things should be improved, regardless if the root of that patch is for Rust.

[sudden imp]

lol

Yeah I may just get a yubi key might be easier

[astral haven]

pro tip its not, the yubikey itself has a code, and you need to touch it too

also a cheap android phone is not far off price wise lel

[umbral heron]

Is there a big difference between 5700X3D and 5800X3D?

[gusty kiln]

Clock speed

[marsh glade]

About 100

[umbral heron]

My friend wants to upgrade and on sale 5700 is a bit over half the price of 5800

[iron wave]

That doesn't sound like a great use of resources but your friend can do what they want.

[gusty kiln]

https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/new-amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-5800x3d-more

Like 1-3% behind the 5800x3d

Is your friend still on am4?

[umbral heron]

Yeah, he has 2700x now

[pastel nacelle]

Aren't thirty ninety's, like five hundred bucks

O cpus

[gusty kiln]

Then yeah sounds like a good upgrade for cheap

5600x3d for even cheaper if they exist where your are at

[iron wave]

Oh I thought they had a 5700X3D and wanted the other one, I'd go higher if it's affordable.

[ashen spindle]

only tiny difference so if 57 is decently cheaper get that

[umbral heron]

5700 is 800, 5800 is 1500zł, so...

[iron wave]

Wendell is crazy: https://youtu.be/YYZEPQxOGKk

[iron wave]

Yeah that's not affordable then.

[gusty kiln]

800 is like 200 usd

Which is fine

[iron wave]

~2x the price.

[unkempt lake]

rt is such a performance hog

[vapid ruin]

waow, that 4090

[unkempt lake]

should be able to give the game a try on my 7900xtx tonight

We shall see how it works out

I'm at like 5120x1440 so like 12% less than 4k so i should be at over 60fps

[ashen spindle]

also thats with upscaling

I hate that HUB did not do a single test without upscaling

[astral haven]

but you have the wider fov so you are loading in more assets...

[unkempt lake]

I mean i'll use upscaling too

[unkempt lake]

Cuz its legit unplayable without xD

Unless you run at like lowest

Or some crap

[unkempt lake]

From my experience tends to not impact things too much

[ashen spindle]

then show how bad the game is without it, not exclude all forms of native rendering xD

[fickle ore]

Wow, waked up today to news that Samsung is buying Nokia's mobile business, fk

in talks I mean

[unkempt lake]

I'll bench it at native for the lolz for you

poor 7900xtx im sorry

[ashen spindle]

haha

[unkempt lake]

You'll get the dashi unboxed results

[gusty kiln]

So that's why my nokia stocks suddenly went up

[fickle ore]

why do youy have nokia hahah

[gusty kiln]

I've been holding those stocks as long as my AMD

Which is like 6 years

[fickle ore]

Ah xD Wsb craze from 2021 ?

[gusty kiln]

Nokia always had huge volume everyday and had dividends back then

[fickle ore]

they still do

[gusty kiln]

Idk just bought some

They stopped for a few years

[fickle ore]

I get like 45€ every 3 months nowadays

[gusty kiln]

Then just restarted it

[fickle ore]

ah ye

I have wayyy to much nok as well

[steady sail]

Any mouse recommendations

[old yew]

beast x

final mouse

ninjutso sora