🔌│tech

[nimble canopy]

I don't see fusion ever being viable
It would simply cost to mutch

[pale trellis]

33 countries are investing a lot to try and make it happen

[ashen spindle]

fusion is the tech that is 10-20 years away

from any given moment you ask when its happening

[pale trellis]

including enemy nations like china, russia and the us, even they are getting along on the cause of it

purely speculative but positive production circa 2080-2100

[ashen spindle]

I mean the question is do we even need them at that point

[pale trellis]

mass adoption 2200

[nimble canopy]

Mass adoption never

[pale trellis]

realistically you may be right no matter the technicalities if we can't all co-operate with one another haha

[old marlin]

I mean we are getting closer but we shouldn't make it the main plan

[pale trellis]

yeah, it's always good to have numerous sources

[ashen spindle]

I just dont know if in that timeline we even need them as in we might just be able to have more than enough energy with nuclear

[pale trellis]

true, we have the capability to do that right now

[supple nest]

Current nuclear production methods could meet all the world's energy demands easily into the future with less issues than current energy production

[nimble canopy]

I don't see nuclear becoming a thing again because gevermont
And with all the years we stopped building them they just get more expansive

[ashen spindle]

like by that time I think its more likely we get 90% efficency solar cells than us getting fusion and then we could replace all nuclear with that

[supple nest]

The US is building reactors now

Solar is a money pit thay isn't viable

[ashen spindle]

lmao sure

[supple nest]

Short life hazardous waste on a scale far beyond nuclear

[ashen spindle]

I'm not even arguing against nuclear but if that's your take on solar panels I dont think we can have a productive discussion

[old marlin]

absolutely not true

[halcyon moss]

nuclear takes sooo long too build by that time we'd have so much solar and wind and batteries that it isnt economically viable

[pale trellis]

Solar is working fine for Australia

and see? these points; solved by thorium-based molten salt reactors

[supple nest]

Any power solution requiring an overabundance of batteries is not a solution

[old marlin]

it was never supposed to be the sole solution

[supple nest]

Disposable tech that produces horribly toxic waste using limited resources

[pale trellis]

the only logic counter point, if only from a monetary one will be from coal. "they toook our derbz" etc

[old marlin]

like 90% of a solar panel is entirely recyclable

[analog sinew]

clean nuclear is better yeah

[old marlin]

nuclear produces more waste

[ashen spindle]

battery does not mean it's lithium, like there are non toxic waste options

[supple nest]

Not viable ones

[ashen spindle]

large hydro pump storage for example

[analog sinew]

was about to say

[old marlin]

even then, nobody is saying that solar is supposed to be the sole solution

[pale trellis]

not true if disposed of correctly

[old marlin]

Could say the same about any toxic waste then

[halcyon moss]

i used to be pro nuclear 15 years ago or so.. but time caught up, it doesnt make sense anymore

[ashen spindle]

correct disposal adds cost and its about commercial viability first

[analog sinew]

nuclear is for a nuke program that also makes energy.

[supple nest]

Nuclear is by far the cheapest option

[pale trellis]

water vapour and waste that was solved years ago

[old marlin]

I am pro nuclear, but just ignoring facts is stupid

[halcyon moss]

hasnt been in a long time

[nimble canopy]

Nuclear doesent produce much waste

[supple nest]

Look at Frances energy cost compared to the rest of the EU

[old marlin]

Solar doesn't either

[supple nest]

Solar does

[analog sinew]

look at frances rivers drying up shutting down their reactors

[supple nest]

Skill issue not nuclear issue

[old marlin]

Look at it when 50% of their reactors are inoperable

[analog sinew]

nuclear doesnt need coolant, true

[old marlin]

And they imported german solar and wind energy

[supple nest]

Energy production all boils down to boiling water

Silly comment

[analog sinew]

not solar or wind lol

[old marlin]

No

[supple nest]

Toxic batteries are not better options than boiling water

[analog sinew]

ok i cba with this troll anymore. must be as boomer as ur pfp

[pale trellis]

It's really hard with mass scale production points due to the butterfly effect, where do you draw the line?

Do we consider the waste in the production of a single bolt used in a factory used to produce a screw that went into the production of another factory that made the electronics for a part of a nuclear control panel, then every other piece of production waste associated with every other component involved in both the production and running of both nuclear and solar?

[supple nest]

The issue is nuclear reactors last for a lot longer than solar panels and orders of magnitude longer than batteries

[pale trellis]

and the maintenance involved is still cheaper in net gain correct vs battery and solar replacement?

everything needs maintenance

[supple nest]

Yes and it produces less waste of limited resources

[halcyon moss]

nuclear is a huge project.
solar panels are simple products

prices of nuclear reactors are going up
prices of solar panels/batteries are going down

[supple nest]

Yes the literal only reason to not build nuclear is competence

It is better in every regard

[supple nest]

Scale issue really

[halcyon moss]

yesnt

[reef patrol]

It's a completely different kind of energy.

On demand, not "as weather permits"

Without -massive- batteries, we will never fully be able to avoid Nuclear and other fossil fuels.

[astral haven]

https://www.techpowerup.com/324279/logitech-g-launches-new-g309-lightspeed-wireless-gaming-mouse
oooh this is sweet
wish it was lighter but full battery free wireless mouse!

[gusty kiln]

I wonder what is the delay when you lift you mouse and put it back down

Unless there's a capacitor or something on board

Also they need to release a bigger power play mat

[astral haven]

the powerplay mat does still work over a certain distance, and there has to be a capacitor in the puck since its converting AC to DC

[merry osprey]

yo

i still don't understand wtf is rappy snappy or snap tap, so how does it decide when to stop strafe if u not lifting the key

what ur action warrants the stop?

[gusty kiln]

That's true since it's induction, but no one wants an uneven surface. An artisan xl will overhang a lot

[astral haven]

yea agreed on needing a bigger one

[gusty kiln]

I can see this being the next superlight 3

No battery must use powerplay

50 grams

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/high-point-rocket-1608a-gen-5/

[astral haven]

i can see 2 puck options

1 li battery rechargable 1 powerplay

best of all worlds
battery super easy to swap for right to repair, ez to remove, ez to convert to wired

[old marlin]

there is a capacitor in the mouse

[astral haven]

as well as the puck?

[old marlin]

no

[astral haven]

how big?

[old marlin]

who knows

https://x.com/LogitechG/status/1810569703867244889

Logitech G (@LogitechG) on X

Meet the new G309 LIGHTSPEED - A new stacked supercapacitor mouse ⚡😎

✅LIGHTSPEED Wireless + Bluetooth
✅LIGHTFORCE Hybrid Switches
✅HERO 25K Sensor
✅POWERPLAY Wireless Charging Compatible

🔗Available in Black and White: https://t.co/u99ijFIJWK

Twitter · Jul 9, 2024, 7:00 AM

they omitted it from a lot of their marketing, but the announcement tweet calls it a supercap mouse lol

[astral haven]

also to be clear the puck unless its changed has a capacitor in it

[old marlin]

?

like how large lol

[astral haven]

tiny

[old marlin]

aka insignificant

[astral haven]

enough to output voltage for a second or two after the mat is unplugged

[old marlin]

for reference a mamba hyperflux

that lasts 8 seconds with that cap

can't find a capacity tho

ik I found it a few years ago

[astral haven]

probably 10 farad each

[gusty kiln]

A single AAA battery mouse would be great for laptop travel use

Maybe in the mid 60s grams

[astral haven]

10 farad is around .001mah (massive simplification)

[fickle ore]

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_(ydinjätteen_loppusijoitustila)

non issue

just ship em to us

[ashen spindle]

if you can store the waste anyway it's not a benefit to have less vs more so that's not really a plus point then

[fickle ore]

sure you wanna fill it up to the brim

this is kinda cool shit

[wheat plume]

Wtf is a supercapacitor mouse?

[old marlin]

a mouse with a supercapacitor

[odd aspen]

One week old OLED.. RIP

[wheat plume]

O.o

[smoky frigate]

didn't some recent monitors have issues with that, that were fixed by firmware?

[ashen spindle]

are you running the pixel refresh thing they all have

if its one week old a single refresh should clear that

[supple nest]

Somehow the OLED on my vita never burnt in

Rip vita tbh was a good console with few games

[odd aspen]

I am, this happened almost instantly. I have a couple of screens from today that look to be burnt in instantly

[ashen spindle]

what screen is it

[odd aspen]

I will try a firmware update

XG27AQDMG

[ashen spindle]

https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/gaming-monitors/xg27aqdmg-image-retention-burn-in-after-3-days/td-p/1026806

[supple nest]

Lol

[ashen spindle]

see if following those steps there helps

if you're lucky it's just a pxiel cleaning run and then it's fine from maybe bad default settings

[lyric hatch]

Soul sacrifice was a banger game though

[supple nest]

I liked freedom wars more

I like freedom wars a ton actually

[pearl mason]

i have a problem

when i use the key print with the wooting in valorant, it doesnt work

but inother apps its does

[empty wren]

Rest in pepperoni

[vagrant pagoda]

Why rip? It's my favorite streaming device lol

I use mine all the time

It's the only good pocketable streaming device

Gotta try a Odin mini though soon

[unkempt lake]

with how bad the 2.4ghz wifi is on it

I'm surprised you manage

[vagrant pagoda]

It's low res and 60hz

So not bad

[unkempt lake]

It'a a good console

[vagrant pagoda]

Definitely not the best quality it could be

[unkempt lake]

I love mine

[vagrant pagoda]

But the ergonomics are king

[unkempt lake]

That oled screen still blows me away to this day

[unkempt lake]

Agreed

[vagrant pagoda]

They are amazing emulation tio

[unkempt lake]

I'd buy an odin mini if i didnt already have a steam deck

[vagrant pagoda]

So easy these days

They don't replace each other

[unkempt lake]

2d stuff sure

But 3d stuff... still hit of miss

[vagrant pagoda]

You can do a couple of N64 games

[unkempt lake]

"A couple" that's the main point

Odin 2 mini is like the same size and can do all n64 it eliminates the need for a vita

Besixes well

Vita games

[wheat plume]

More Redmi Pad updates

[vagrant pagoda]

I have a og odin

Though with the improvements of 8gen2 windows emulation is amazing

So the mini looks good

[past ember]

guysijustpulledoutmyspacebarswitchandnowitdontworkanymorecananyonehelp

[reef patrol]

Put the switch back in maybe? Then unplug the keyboard, plug it back in and wait five seconds before typing.

[past ember]

i did but the unplug thing worked

[pale sigil]

It's because you played gray zone

[graceful wedge]

I need help real quick with another ram option

If I wanted something close to 990 speed but with the same storage and not as pricey

[reef patrol]

*RAM option

Shows an NVME SSD

[umbral heron]

Crucial P5 Plus 2TB maybe then? It is PCIe 4.0

[fair gull]

wait you cant shove an nvme into the ram slots?

dang it

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

it bought terabytes of this crap

[graceful wedge]

What’s the difference

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

sosa flashbacks

[graceful wedge]

Where’s the ssd go, if I get the ssd dam I still need to buy ram

[marsh glade]

The only problem is that the SSD doesn't fit in the RAM slot, even though it looks like it would fit

[graceful wedge]

Where does it go?

[marsh glade]

I don't know why they'd make them that way, but your motherboard has special SSD slots where your RAM doesn't fit

[graceful wedge]

Ahh

[fair gull]

well if you try hard enough everything fits everywhere but the motherboard wont work anymore and neither will the ram/nvme

[graceful wedge]

Dumb question, but if someone lets me know ty, is ddr5-6000 ram?

I could search that up but I rather ask u guys

[graceful wedge]

Nah that’s ram nvm

Looks big

[graceful wedge]

Would ram speed effect ssd speed

[marsh glade]

No

[umbral heron]

Nope
RAM speed in a degree affects whole PC's speed

[graceful wedge]

So if I got 2 64g ram, should I worry about ssd

[lusty tide]

god damn

[umbral heron]

You should worry about your motherboard and CPU supporting it

[graceful wedge]

I’m learning lots

[marsh glade]

Get one (or two) sticks of 32gb RAM

[lusty tide]

RAM has nothing to do with the storage on your PC. Two sticks of RAM is optimal for performance. You probably won’t need more than 32gb and at most 64gb

[graceful wedge]

These came to me already so just tweaking some stuff on the list of stuff I need now

Ssd is the only thing on my mind rn

[lusty tide]

What’s more important for SSD speed is your motherboard and processor supporting the speed of the SSD

[fair gull]

why are you buying even more ram when you got 32gb already

what do you wanna fit in there? 50 chrome tabs?

[graceful wedge]

I’m not buying more ram, planning on upgrading 1tb ssd to 2tb

[fair gull]

why ask this then

[graceful wedge]

But 2tb is way more then I thought so looking for alternatives with good speed still

[graceful wedge]

Becuase I’m not knowledgeable

[lusty tide]

2TB is not that much when you actually start using your PC long term.

[fair gull]

depends

if i didnt need long term storage for uh.... backup copies of my bluerays (yes yes) then i could live with 2tb easily

[umbral heron]

[graceful wedge]

That seems nice

Must be a dream

[lusty tide]

Unless you actually don’t play a lot of triple A games or don’t do video editing or production and just like… play minecraft or something, 2TB is not a lot tbh

[fair gull]

i just download games when i need to

[reef patrol]

Or you know... uninstall games now and then.

[fair gull]

not 2years in advance

[lusty tide]

Ahhh but downloading now means you don’t have to invest time 2 years down the line 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[marsh glade]

Your motherboard has multiple NVME slots

[reef patrol]

chuckles in 500mbit

[fair gull]

i can spare those 20minutes tops

[lusty tide]

[umbral heron]

Start downloading, go shower, get back, game downloaded

[graceful wedge]

What’s the difference like from 1024mb/to 2048mb should I worry about it as much as I am

[umbral heron]

With what?

[gentle void]

After the update my wooting doesn't work anymore what can I do?

[graceful wedge]

1024 was the 1gb ssd, and the 2048 was the 2gb

[marsh glade]

Buy a second 1TB SSD if the 2TB one is out of your price range. Or if you do get the 2TB one, then install it next to your 1TB not instead of it

[graceful wedge]

Like $50 more

[umbral heron]

Yup, 1024GB is 1TB, 2048GB is 2TB

[marsh glade]

Unplug it and plug it back in

[umbral heron]

We won't delve into the whole GB vs GiB discussion

[gentle void]

I tried it already, also restarted my PC nothing works

[lusty tide]

Do you own a computer right now? That should kind of give you an idea of how big or small games can get. Or even look up games that you’re interested in and see how much space it takes up. BG3 takes up almost 200gb

[graceful wedge]

I was getting 990 but then changed it to 970

[marsh glade]

Might suggest making a thread in #1019755933959733258 for assistance then

[graceful wedge]

So I don’t wanna downgrade but I also want higher storage

[lusty tide]

Get a 970. You won’t need 990 speeds likely

[marsh glade]

You can revert to previous software until you get some assistance

[graceful wedge]

Yea I have one, it’s been through a lot tho but it does the job

[lusty tide]

Like 990 is for people who want to move large amounts of files or video editing or anything that NEEDS high speeds

[graceful wedge]

I do video editing sometimes for clips

[lusty tide]

Playing video games, loading screens, bootup, you’re hardly ever going to notice the difference at all

[graceful wedge]

But just to upload to YouTube/tiktok, 1440p resolutions

[gentle void]

Shit I hope I receive a fast answer...

[lusty tide]

Yeah, I mean on like a professional level where you’re doing it as a job

[graceful wedge]

Oh Alr

[lusty tide]

You can see benefit, don’t get me wrong. But you’re not going to maximize your dollar ykwim?

[graceful wedge]

Well before the price I had was $724 and now it’s like $715

2k pc pretty much

[lusty tide]

I’d also like to point out that rumors are heavily pointing towards a 5080 release in late 2024, even being confirmed by some Nvidia board partners

[graceful wedge]

My current pc overheats alot and gets like high 90s temp and my gpu is unmounted so it’s just like sideways with nothing screwed on it

[lusty tide]

If you’d like to upgrade your storage, someone said it earlier, you can always add an extra NVME SSD since there’s two slots on that motherboard

[graceful wedge]

My current pc overheats alot and gets like high 90s temp and my gpu is unmounted so it’s just like sideways with nothing screwed on it it still works tho

[lusty tide]

whats your gpu

also high 90s is super worrying what are the specs? is it a prebuilt?

[graceful wedge]

My current pc overheats alot and gets like high 90s temp and my gpu is unmounted so it’s just like sideways with nothing screwed on it it still works tho

[graceful wedge]

Red devil 5700x, or something like that

[lusty tide]

that’s not bad

that’s nearing 1080ti levels of performance

[graceful wedge]

I did that like 4 years ago

Becuase the cable to the gpu couldn’t fit

[lusty tide]

whaaaaat the acrual fuck

[fair gull]

what the

[sharp badger]

Lmao

[graceful wedge]

I used a hammer

[fair gull]

can we spoiler hardware gore pls

[lusty tide]

hoopoooooooooly

[graceful wedge]

I have old pics brb

[lusty tide]

no pelase

spare us

[lyric hatch]

Criminal behavior

https://tenor.com/view/under-arrest-youre-under-arrest-thats-it-youre-under-arrest-jake-peralta-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-12745780

[lusty tide]

current specs?

it’s up to you, but i’d consider waiting another 5 - 6 months for a 9800x3d and an rtx 5080 release. the latest those will come out would be january 2025

[graceful wedge]

Yea lemme turn on my pc brb

[fair gull]

im

im tempted to ban you for abusing a pc case

[graceful wedge]

That pc case abused me, do u know how hard those metal bars were to bend?

Could’ve poked my eye out with that hammer

[lusty tide]

bro… i’m pretty sure you could’ve taken off a side shield

[graceful wedge]

No I couldn’t

[lusty tide]

and have the I/O be accessible

[graceful wedge]

It was connected to the whole case

[lusty tide]

what case is that?

[graceful wedge]

Some old nzxt case

[marsh glade]

I hope you treat your future Wooting keyboard better

[graceful wedge]

Really old prob

[fair gull]

im confused why you couldnt just mount it normal

[graceful wedge]

Oh def

[fair gull]

and use a gpu brace

[lusty tide]

looking at the psu shroud it can’t be that old bruh

[graceful wedge]

It’s been 2 years so I just left it how it is since it’s easier for me, I don’t use the metal bars anymore ofc

[lusty tide]

i’m like 99% sure you could’ve unscrewed it bc i’ve used cases older than the H5 😭

that’s just so brutal

[graceful wedge]

That’s what it’s like now

[fair gull]

im just so confused why this was necessary... poor case

[graceful wedge]

All because the cable was too big to fit into the gpu

[lusty tide]

mmmm yeah maybe consider waiting another 5 months but if you can’t then the bundle microcenter offers is pretty good

alternatively, i’d buy everything besides the gpu and use the 5700xt until the 5080 comes out

[graceful wedge]

5 months is very long tho, very long

[sharp badger]

One can always wait for the next thing and suddenly the next thing and the next etc.

[lusty tide]

yeah, i understand that.

the whole wait for the next gen to come out troupe is kinda not for the faint hearted.

[ashen spindle]

it could be even longer than 5 months

[sharp badger]

Yep

Buy what fits ones need today

[umbral heron]

Oh yeah, and it will definitely be widely available after release

[lusty tide]

I’m betting the 5080 comes out end of 2024 and latest jan 2025. Nvidia board members already rumored it with GN

[lusty tide]

Oh and this LOLOL

[graceful wedge]

Wait that’s weird

[umbral heron]

As if scalpers won't buy out the entire stock lol

[graceful wedge]

5700xt, I don’t even have it plugged up

[ashen spindle]

yeah and rumors said 50 series is announced at computex last month and now everyone said all 3 gpus come in 2025

[lusty tide]

At least there won’t be a mining epidemic… just AI…

[lusty tide]

Nvidia never announces gpus at computex

They haven’t for the last like 3 generations

[ashen spindle]

and they had their own announcement ahead of computex so it was technically their own event

either way point is it's not set in stone that we have new gpus in 5 months

I hope we do, but we might not

[lusty tide]

it’s not fs, but i think the chances are high imo

[sharp badger]

I'm waiting for the 6090 Super Ultra AI+ 😆

[lusty tide]

i think at this point you should wait for the 7080

[unkempt lake]

And definitively at a reasonable price!

[odd cloak]

anyone elses shift key acting weird?

ill tap it once and it'll start spazzing out

[reef patrol]

#1019755933959733258 please.

[drifting pasture]

bruh, but you know you can just simply take the covers out... right?

[reef patrol]

Those aren't the covers - those are the metal spacers between each cover.
The GPU is vertical.

[coarse island]

wooting gpu when?

[sudden imp]

I feel like if wooting made PC components (internal) they might do fans

[coarse island]

and then give the fans tachyon mode which allows them to spin at a million rpm

[blazing forge]

should i wait for the 80he or just cop the 60he+ one

[whole axle]

Whichever layout you want more

[blazing forge]

60 looks cleaner

[whole axle]

Then get that

There is no diff other than like 8k but like you can’t even really feel that in keyboards

[balmy vector]

This mode also activates a secret rgb mode if put at 69,420RPM

[graceful wedge]

I was going to get 970 evo but looks like 990 is the move

[graceful wedge]

Nah I don’t even know anymore

Just in a loop with my thoughts

[modest hamlet]

Think of something else and sleep on it. You have learned much, go for a walk if you can and tomorrow it will come.

[bright briar]

anyone have advice for a good coffee machine?

i need that solid coffee

[graceful wedge]

Coffee sounds nice

[bright briar]

i have the keurig coffee machine and just makes all the coffee watery

[lyric hatch]

I buy coffee and drink tea when I'm at home 🏡

[unkempt lake]

Maybe its broken

?

[glass stag]

Isn't one of the ingredients in coffee, water?

[final flame]

Get grinder and roaster, then get a espresso machine with backwash

I am a tea person though, coffee I don't like

[pale trellis]

simple drip through would do the trick, maybe check out Project Farm videos

[merry osprey]

does anyone know?

[modest hamlet]

So this guy is a coffee guru won some awards for something and makes sense when gives the reason why. He is a little ritzy "best of the best" but watch it and then get an understanding of what makes a good drip coffee maker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8eYs2vxT-8 @bright briar

Also this one may help others https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Ga8SRhRrE

[graceful wedge]

u guys dont mind my dumb questions right?

[modest hamlet]

no dumb q,

not wile Im here

[graceful wedge]

[modest hamlet]

I can bet you Ill ask dumber

[graceful wedge]

maybe me 2 years ago could beat u in that

[modest hamlet]

whats the q

[graceful wedge]

nah if anything, its mostly just gunna be stuff like "whats a powersupply do?" or whats the diffrence from ram and ssd"

mostly stuff like that

[modest hamlet]

sure there are a lot of build guides out there that will give an overview of each component wile they build the PC

there are enough that if you don't like the person you can just watch another I mean watch enough of them and you can do it blind folded (I wouldn't) but its like Lego if you have ever played with them. start with your case first seeing the relitive size of everything helps and go from there

[pale trellis]

everyone has different levels of knowledge and has to start somewhere

[graceful wedge]

Yea I mean I could do that but if I were to come in here and ask, I’d get a response in like 5 mins, rather wait those 5 mins then watch the 20 min video (unless I’m actually building the pc rn)

[modest hamlet]

I find understanding how to go from A to B to C etc. helps better for me then rando q. not that thats what you are doing . most of the time its good to get a reliable source of info that you can ref. anytime you need. Rather then wait for someone to respond

[pale trellis]

different sources help in different ways

for visual learners videos are good, help provide context from beginning to end if done properly, same with decent readable tutorials, which are also good to use for direct reference material to refer back to, helps with possible issues when doing things so you don't have to keep going back to re-reference

direct questions are good for Discord imo

reddit is sort of like an in between for things like that imo

[modest hamlet]

Also it is better to be able to be self reliant in situations where there may be some hectic things going.

[pale trellis]

yup, I find that to be the case from my own personal experience

[modest hamlet]

I mean check my bio but yeah

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-knowing-is-half-the-battle-knowing-battle-gif-25791425

[pale trellis]

I had a steep learning curve when starting on my Linux journey, had a lot to learn about learning in and of itself haha

[north wasp]

What's a good mouse to pair with the wooting 60he+? since it has rapid triggers, I'm wondering if there's a mouse that can match its low-latency?

[loud swift]

most mice these days have low latency, you don't need to buy high end mice anymore to get great performance.

[bright briar]

if you ever had k cups you would understand

[bright briar]

naw just k cups are hella inconsistent

[glass stag]

I don't drink coffee so I won't understand lol

[bright briar]

ty i'll try that

[bright briar]

thank you i'll look into this and let you know if it fixes my issue lol

just tired of buying $7 coffee at starbucks

[lyric hatch]

Starbucks sucks fr

[trim crane]

just do some exercise in the morning you'll sleep like a baby and feel good in the day 👍

[unkempt lake]

@bright briar i know my dad used a nespresso coffee machine for years

The one with the little pods

Idk anything about coffee tho just trying to be helpful

I drink energy drinks instead

[trim crane]

@ancient python is there anything in particular you want your monitor to have

in terms of specs and features

[ancient python]

lets see

i want it to be 360hz

no price limit at all

but i want it to be oled

and i use Navida gpu and its rtx 4070 ti

[dull axle]

@ancient python gigabyte moniters

Are good ive been running the new one that they released

[ancient python]

but they dont have 360hz or oled

what u think of this one

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-AW2725DF-OLED-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B0CZSGWLD5/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1LOZQGJRH43FR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.A0wiza8F0KWO85FBQpNY_wZJs3jUIShYjoh--eE0i2jK5oeiMk1J-mUrkdnQpKpKAGBoHdugZM7IBuLtAVXjb1LUlEMhshQ2ZKt-3oINgkWjMB1MeWYh2ObCPKXtFoz5wMECuv1P6FJcNDalaAUNvShSowrbWAn05G6OruPfW3-ccywQM4xqHDTVWb6TheiNQLBbbMalh2sg2Zi0B9YOxJjilvqBIPujkitz0vnmWdE.yE5fgBuAOu4s7I85aIfVjbHu20wEI9kwdY7PL4PkkGQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=gigabyte+monitor+360hz+oled&qid=1720595046&sprefix=gigabyte+monitors+360%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-2

@trim crane

[dull axle]

They do

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/AORUS-FO32U2P

^but im running a 27"

[ancient python]

not on amzon i wanna buy it from there

[dull axle]

Ph

Oh*

[ancient python]

i want a 27 too

[dull axle]

U can search up

That model name it will appear on amazon

[ancient python]

or this one

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1808681-REG/msi_mpg_271qrx_qd_oled_27_wqhd_oled_16_9.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv7O0BhDwARIsAC0sjWOcljcTuDIzs1NtI6ep-Gca9QKTfnAn7qLGm1ZKDJaEoKjSG937oLAaAi_xEALw_wcB

[trim crane]

1440p 360Hz OLED?

i mean you cant really go wrong with it

i would prefer flat panels that support UHBR20 because DSC is kinda annoying to be forced to use

Im using a 1440p 360Hz ULMB 2 monitor (PG27AQN)

but yeah 1440p 360Hz OLED is goated, even if you dont have the hardware to take full advantage of it

[dull axle]

He does

[dull axle]

His running the 4070ti is rlly enough

O nvm misread

[ancient python]

u think that one is better then the allinewear one

[lyric hatch]

You ain't gonna notice the difference between DSC or no DSC

[ancient python]

whats that

[trim crane]

its mostly the whole tabbing in and out of games

thats the thing that HELLA bothers me

[lyric hatch]

Just a compression algorithm needed to run a lot of these panels at super high refresh rates/resolutions without the need for displayport 2.1

[ancient python]

but @trim crane the monitor u said dosent have oled

[trim crane]

yeah

[ancient python]

for that prices

i can get a better one with oled

[lyric hatch]

Use borderless windowed and in the games that don't support that wait 2 seconds 🤷‍♂️

[trim crane]

i tried a 1440p 240Hz OLED was cool but it had text fringing which I didnt like, also OLEDs of today dont have enough of a refresh rate to compensate for persistence blur

360Hz even

thats why I need pwm

or at least idk 720Hz or something ridiculous on OLED

[dull axle]

He can get a

[trim crane]

BUT i did like OLED it was very neat

[dull axle]

LG moniter

[trim crane]

colors were punchy

[ancient python]

there is one thats good but its a 32 inch

[trim crane]

i mean still the IPS I have now is still out of the better non mini led ones in terms of color and response times

[ancient python]

so in overall whats better the one u have or the alienware @trim crane

[trim crane]

idk

its honestly a matter of motion clarity or color

both are versatile in their own respects

[ancient python]

i heard really good things about the alinewear one

[dull axle]

Ive ran aloenware TPM moniters

But its a 2019 edition

[dull axle]

Theyve upgraded

[trim crane]

the alienware does have VRR flicker in low light environments sonif thats an issue

thats generally one of the problems with OLEDs

[dull axle]

A dark room or off lighting solves it

[trim crane]

and POSSIBLE burn in, otherwise its great

[dull axle]

Newer OLED tech are hard to burn in tho

[ancient python]

im in a dark room

[old marlin]

only burn in I got still is the 16:9 square

personally have not noticed any flicker on mine

[ancient python]

u have the alinwear one ?"

[old marlin]

yes

[ancient python]

how is it

[old marlin]

I like it

[ancient python]

does it matter if u use amd or navida for it

[old marlin]

but have not had any other OLED screen

[dull axle]

Nope

[ancient python]

cuz i have a 4070 ti rn

[old marlin]

for the DW it does, for the DWF it doesn't

[ancient python]

then why do they say amd prim on it

[old marlin]

?

they have freesync, which works with both vendors

[ancient python]

but what do u have amd or navida

i see

[trim crane]

oh yeah it also has HDMI 2.0 if that matters

[old marlin]

and doesn't require an expensive af FPGA

[old marlin]

nvidia

you can't even update the firmware of the AW3423DW without an nvidia card

[trim crane]

also I live in a west facing penthouse which sucks for me because no ac and I have the sun bothering me

[old marlin]

oh also

[ancient python]

but we not speaking of that one

[old marlin]

with all OLEDs, you DO NOT want direct sunlight on the panel for extended periods of time

[old marlin]

yea just wanted to mention it

[ancient python]

we taking about

ohhhh i see what u mean

[old marlin]

that one is quirky

[ancient python]

my room is dark no lighht comes in

[old marlin]

which is why it was worth mentioning

[shrewd cipher]

I use the MSI Mpg 271qrx since a month and im very happy with it, its the same 360Hz panel as the Alienware and GIGABYTE AORUS FO27Q3 ones

[old marlin]

also should add

alienware prob has the best warranty and warranty service of all options

[shrewd cipher]

Never had issues with MSI

[hidden bobcat]

do yall know any good oled 240hz monitors

[shrewd cipher]

The AW is cheaper but got less features, the MSI got the most afaik

[hidden bobcat]

was thinking

[shrewd cipher]

Budget?

[nimble canopy]

That's an nvidia issue not a DSC issue

[hidden bobcat]

under 1k

[shrewd cipher]

Wanna go wide curved screen?

[hidden bobcat]

if it’s in budget sure

[trim crane]

its a shame nvidia is doing nothing about it, I domt even know why tho

[ancient python]

I got it boys

[ancient python]

But u can’t find a 360hz 2k oled msi monitor on Amazon

@old marlin

[old marlin]

you are aware you can buy stuff at places other than amazon?

[shrewd cipher]

Wym

[ancient python]

U can’t buy it

I tried dw I’m a whale

[shrewd cipher]

Cuz american amazon, not german

[ancient python]

Msi is not an American brand so I don’t trust other websites cuz they not from the USA only Amazon is trusted

That msi one is really really good

[shrewd cipher]

Amazon most of the time more expensive

[shrewd cipher]

Also love the 90W USB port to charge stuff

[ancient python]

I rather pay 100$ extra then get scammed

And Amazon is fast to deliver if it was on a diff web it would take at least a month or 2

[shrewd cipher]

Never got scammed, bought mine from a normal vendor and got it delivered next day

[ancient python]

U have the msi one ?

[shrewd cipher]

Yes

[ancient python]

How is it ?

[shrewd cipher]

Really good

[ancient python]

It’s like the allinewewr but diff brand

Same specs in everything

What’s the price on it

American dollar

[shrewd cipher]

Only thing that was annoying is the 4h OLED care interval, but i set it to 14h now

Paid 999€

[distant tapir]

My C2 has this annoying 'turn down the brightness?' thing pop up every 4 hours.

(I already have the brightness at 20)

[shrewd cipher]

Would be like 1100 in us$

[reef patrol]

Imagine considering Amazon a safe store above others 😄

[ancient python]

Yea it’s more expensive

[shrewd cipher]

Yep.. Its kind of a joke

[ancient python]

For alinewewr I only paid 970$ with fast shipping and everything

[thick elk]

I will say Amazon is pretty easy with returns, generally does not give a shit and signs off on them.

When ordering from random dropshippers it's generally the safest option.

[shrewd cipher]

As i said, same glossy panel, just different ammount/set of features

[shrewd cipher]

Im not too big with UWs, maybe you wanna check out the YT channel "monitor unboxed" (sub channel from HU)

[hidden bobcat]

decided on

asus swift 27 oled

[shrewd cipher]

840€ from DELL (including delivery) 890€ on Amazon

[dull axle]

Imagine doing so and then get sent dirt

[shrewd cipher]

And paying amazon premium at the same time..

[dull axle]

NA THATS A BIG L BRO

[reef patrol]

Exactly my point. Amazon returns are such a crapshoot. You might get sent a "new" product that's been used before, or worse - something entirely different than what you thought.

[dull axle]

Im running aorus fo27u2p

[dull axle]

Welcome to amazon where everything is a 50 50 unless verified

The one in 360hz and OLED 0.03ms

[shrewd cipher]

And you have to pay more, but got "free delivery"

[dull axle]

Thats reminds me if u pay 50 bucks per month or 70 just for free delivery

[shrewd cipher]

They are literally trolling ppl and they even fall for it

Or worse, defend it

I barely buy over amazon, even if i have to pay for shipping, the total price is still lower than what amazon offers me

Also paying 9€ a month, even without ordering stuff..

If ya add it all up, u are better off with other shops

[shrewd cipher]

Nice

The OLED gang grows, now we need fellow Cardboard members xD

[distant tapir]

Love reading old forum posts talking about future technology.

Also R.I.P. SED.

[dull axle]

Agreed XD

[severe phoenix]

Sed were gonna be amazing

[distant tapir]

For gaming especially.

[halcyon moss]

Sed news

[severe phoenix]

LCDS were the worst thing to happen to display tech

"It's cheaper and lighter!!!"

Looks like dogshit

[halcyon moss]

Ehh, don't really agree with that.. But ok

[distant tapir]

I very much agree for gaming.

[severe phoenix]

And movies / tv

[distant tapir]

Wonder how good CRTs (and SED) would have been by now if it never stopped development.

Early 2000s CRTs already had very good specs.

1440p 90 Hz, 1080p 120 Hz etc.

And of course 90 Hz on a CRT looks a million times better than 90 on an OLED or LCD.

[severe phoenix]

60HZ on a CRT looked better than 120HZ on OLED or LCD

Plasma came close, but it had it's own issues.

[distant tapir]

Yes.

[severe phoenix]

I remember playing Crysis in the 40s and even 25fps in certain sections

It was fantastic. On a LCD or even OLED? It'd give me a headache

[distant tapir]

That's one of the reasons why people feel the need to upgrade so much. Now that things don't look good at 60 and even 120 depending on content people have to upgrade.

If 60 fps had perfect motion clarity and without any stutter people would care far less about 200 fps and such.

And people wouldn't spend as much money on upgrading.

[severe phoenix]

Yep

We were robbed.

[vagrant pagoda]

Other than eyestrain crts were dope

But tons of power and weight lol

[frozen ingot]

or the bulbous display glass, or the lack of sharpness, or

[vagrant pagoda]

Eh it was a long time before lcd had high enough ppi to be sharper

[frozen ingot]

always looked crisper though

[vagrant pagoda]

Not really

Static image sure

But anything with motion looked like grease

[distant tapir]

They certainly aren't flawless. I am a big CRT fan but some benefits of early LCDs that people generally skip over when trashing them (and I feel like they deserve to be trashed) is lack of things like geometry and focus issues.

Those are nice things to not have to think about.

[vagrant pagoda]

By the time LCDs were around crts had auto geometry

Source lived though the transition and still have most of the displays

[old marlin]

I mean towards the end of the lifetime the issues of CRTs were weight/bulk and it being dim?

+LCDs were starting to get really cheap

[vagrant pagoda]

Just size/weight, eyestrain, grid connections, and old vs new

LCDs weren't bright then either

[frozen ingot]

I didn't hop on lcd until around mid 00s

when they started getting decent on contrast and ghosting was less of an issue

[distant tapir]

Early LCD ghosting is so bad. Modern day ghosting of let's say a typical decent IPS does not bother me. I find the MPRT blur far more bothersome.

There's an LGR video where he uses an old laptop and the display is so slow that when he plays a sidescroller things almost just disappear when in motion.

Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQkP0l7Syw&t=406s

[frozen ingot]

I know, I grew up with them

that's also why we waited so long with adapting them at home

[distant tapir]

It's crazy to me how manifacturers could release stuff like this with the huge glaring 'defect' during motion.

Especially since CRTs were the most common display types and so people actually had a reference for great motion unlike these days where most people are kinda clueless.

[frozen ingot]

its the best they had at the time, people still needed their laptops

[severe phoenix]

Yep

[frozen ingot]

if you're not gaming the ghosting isn't that much of an issue

the concept of the gaming pc and gaming peripherals didn't start to really become a thing until the 00s

[distant tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[frozen ingot]

kids these days with their 500hz monitors, 8k mice and 4090s couldn't even begin to fathom the sheer arcaicness of 90s computing

[vagrant pagoda]

I got a og apple cimea from a guy who didn't like how big it was

Like 5-6mo after release

Would of been 04?

Then in 07 I went to 3x24

And 08 5x24

[steep creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zijUjJdegI8

[vagrant pagoda]

I can vividly remember the first time I saw over 1k pixels

[frozen ingot]

first time I saw hardware 3d acceleration will stick with me to the grave

glquake

after years of playing software rendered

[crimson wigeon]

Glide man

[vagrant pagoda]

Good old 1024x1280 was a god send

Then went to 1200x1600

[frozen ingot]

I stuck by 800x600 for a long time

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah that was my first >1k

D2 glide at 1280x1024

On a Dell 17 ultra sharp

[frozen ingot]

yeah that was another thing, never had any larger crt than 17" before moving on to lcd

[vagrant pagoda]

Before I had a 800x600 crt

Then after the 1600x1200 I got a Dell 21 inch Trinitron

10/10 would do that upgrade

Same res on crt

And size, crt blew it out the water.

Only thing bad was screen bond wires and size

1600x1200@100hz was amazing

[steep creek]

samsungs new ultra watch, man this design is unique

[vagrant pagoda]

Dose dial work

I love the dial

[sharp badger]

Wonder how it compares to e.g. Garmin Epix Pro

[steep creek]

nah i dont think it has the dial, only regular watch

this ultra watch has 100 hours max so garmin is still probably the battery champ, hard to beat them

[sharp badger]

Buds3 Pro look decent

[blazing forge]

Can anyone help me to choose the best build? I found some sellers selling 60HE+ prebuilt

[vagrant pagoda]

Did they drop the dial again?

[steep creek]

the non ultra watch still has the dial i believe

[vagrant pagoda]

Ah

I have a 5

Apple user fail

[steep creek]

hmm maybe they did drop it? doesnt seem to be a dial there

[umbral heron]

Hmm... I can either get 7950X3D new for 2500zł/580€ or used 7800X3D for 1150zł/270€, tis the question

[sharp badger]

https://www.samsung.com/fi/audio-sound/galaxy-buds/galaxy-buds3-pro-silver-sm-r630nzaaeub/ €249

[vagrant pagoda]

Ultra looks like it has it

[umbral heron]

tf is Galaxy AI?

[steep creek]

mkbhd didnt show it off in the video above but maybe it does

[loud hemlock]

galaxy ai looks like just a brand name for some fancy dsp

[sharp badger]

https://www.samsung.com/fi/watches/galaxy-watch-ultra/buy/ €699

[umbral heron]

Hell naw, I'm not paying 700€ for a smartwatch

[steep creek]

cheaper than the 1000 euro apple ultra i guess

[old marlin]

that's the non-ultra

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-no-bubu-headache-bubu-confused-bubu-angry-gif-5172913164574288217

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean it's 10atm

Only Garmin has that

[steep creek]

apple too but only the ultra

[vagrant pagoda]

I have a decent, so 1k is nothing

[halcyon moss]

samsung ring not in NL 😦

[old marlin]

the ring seems kinda weird to me

[sharp badger]

€2099 for the Fold 6, 256gb and €1259 for the Flip 6, 256gb

[steep creek]

yea idk if theres a dial or not, cant find any info on their webpage

[old marlin]

the ultra has one

[steep creek]

ah cool

[wheat plume]

The Samsung watch ultra is so cursed looking

It's a circular watch face on a squared off body

[vagrant pagoda]

That's how normal watches ate

[halcyon moss]

its kinda cool imho

[vagrant pagoda]

The strap is the odd part

[wheat plume]

Nah this is cursed

[halcyon moss]

i dont want a (smart)watch

[vagrant pagoda]

Why they didn't taper the body to the strap, who knows

Ring is good for pure health

If you want to wear a dumb watch

[old marlin]

fair

[steep creek]

i'd rather get a polar strap instead of ring personally

[old marlin]

are you gonna wear a polar strap 24/7

[vagrant pagoda]

And wear that everyday?

And at night?

[steep creek]

oh nvm haha, i misunderstood that

[vagrant pagoda]

Health == exercise

[wheat plume]

How do batteries work on a smart ring ??

[halcyon moss]

not necessarily

[wheat plume]

The whole inside is curved too

[old marlin]

same as on buds

[halcyon moss]

7 days apparently

[sharp badger]

$399.99 for the ring 👀 https://www.theverge.com/24194938/samsung-galaxy-ring-hands-on-price-unpacked-2024

[wheat plume]

No
But how do they physically fit inside it?

[old marlin]

batteries are fairly soft

[halcyon moss]

bend it i guess

[wheat plume]

Bending them?!

[halcyon moss]

maybe its an offer to get one for free or discounted on the next galaxy s phones

[old marlin]

yea, they are soft

[wheat plume]

Idk if I want a bent battery in a device from a company who made the note 7

[halcyon moss]

lol. they have a very good track record since

[wheat plume]

True true .... But with non bent batteries

[old marlin]

what is the issue with bending a battery lol

[steep creek]

plenty of other smart rings on the market tho, they seem to be fine

[sharp badger]

The Oura ring is priced at €329 or €399 depending on the model

Don't think that Samsung have a membership fee on the ring though

[halcyon moss]

that'd be a deal breaker

if that'd be the case im getting an oura

[wheat plume]

How do you know if the ring fits?

[halcyon moss]

you get a fit kit

[sharp badger]

You can test your size

[steep creek]

dont think theres a subscription

[sharp badger]

Ok that's kinda nice for the Samsung ring then

[wheat plume]

Nice!

[steep creek]

but wow the fold 6 is expensive here 2155 eur for the 12gb model

[wheat plume]

What's the Oura ring?

[old marlin]

basically the same thing

[halcyon moss]

its a health ring thats been around for a while

[distant tapir]

What... what does it do?

[sharp badger]

Rings are kinda impractical for training though

[distant tapir]

Scam.

[sharp badger]

It's a "smart ring"

[halcyon moss]

you dont know the definition of a scam

unreasonable it is though

[sharp badger]

The "Titanium White" is kinda clean

[rough osprey]

man that is ugly

[wheat plume]

Yep

[distant tapir]

[wheat plume]

Circle watch face and bezels on a square body

Why?????

[rough osprey]

is this a official samsung picture??

[sharp badger]

Yeah or it's from their site

[steep creek]

ive slammed my watch against rocks, metal bars so much more i wonder if the white would chip quicker

[rough osprey]

looks like a chinese clone

[wheat plume]

Mine is pink and not a scratch on it

[rough osprey]

we got apple watch ultra at home

[steep creek]

i dont treat my watch well, its still in pristine condition

wonder if the white titanium would show marks quicker than raw

[rough osprey]

probably

[sharp badger]

Smartwatches should be used so don't mind if they get scratches/dings

[steep creek]

yeah same i agree with that

[rough osprey]

resell value 😀

[steep creek]

doesn't matter i give it away to a family member when its that old anyways

[sharp badger]

I could see that with Apple products or maybe Garmin but a battery is still a battery and it would be in need of a change

I've had my Garmin since 2021 and atm. it's more expensive than when i bought it

[steep cedar]

fuck me thats ugly

[sharp badger]

Don't really know what to think of this ''Iconic blade light'' thingy

[old marlin]

imo it's stupid

like what are you gonna do with that

take out an earbud to see if you got a notification?

[sharp badger]

Feel like it's more like to notify others ''Look at this lighthead''

[fair gull]

how is it iconic

[sharp badger]

It says so

[balmy vector]

[old marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/valor-rotmg-gif-18759563

[fickle ore]

Meta Raybans

Yea I kinda want Oura

[old marlin]

has a 6€ subscription fee

if you wanna use it for 2 years or longer the samsung one is actually cheaper lol

[fickle ore]

oof

yeah fk sub costs

[sharp badger]

There's the Ultrahuman ring too https://www.ultrahuman.com/ring/buy/fi/

[fickle ore]

One that would enable calls would be pog too

[old marlin]

[sharp badger]

Samsungs Galaxy Ring https://www.samsung.com/us/rings/galaxy-ring/buy/galaxy-ring-titanium-silver-sm-q50xnzsaxar/

[fickle ore]

Oura is Finnish, Ultrahuman india. Choose which to support ig 😄

Nordic pog

[bright briar]

thank you i'll look into that

[digital cliff]

the capsule makers are poison

expensive to keep buying the pods and it's just more garbage into this world, for average coffee

you can make average coffee just buy buying cheap coffee

[umbral heron]

The only way I could justify having a capsule coffee machine is with reusable pods

[digital cliff]

at that point I feel like there's no reason to have one in the first place, when normal filter brewers have existed for years

[umbral heron]

Sure, that's just in case you'd happen to have one
I'd never buy it either

[digital cliff]

yeah :3

I specifically don't have a coffeemaker of any kind as I hate countertop appliances and only really need to make coffee for myself

[sharp badger]

There is reusable ones but it don't take long to brew with the filter brewers

What do you use then? Nescafe?

[digital cliff]

just a cone and I pour it myself you know

V60 to be exact

[sharp badger]

Ah one of those

[bright briar]

anyone got recommendations for 1440p monitor 1 ms refresh rate doesnt need to be more than 165hz unless someone gives a proper reason why i need more refresh rate

[vocal otter]

By changing the spring of the Gateron Jade switch to the L45 switch, we have achieved the strongest key switch with a stable keystroke of 3.5mm. Recommended for those who don't like the wobble of the L45.

[distant tapir]

Sony GDM F520

But idk.

[bright briar]

note to self never listen to soria moria advice ever again

[blazing forge]

tofu60 aliminium case
foam + polyfill + tape (4 layered)
Gateron Jades (Handlubed with krytox)
gmk clone keycaps
you think its a good build?

[sharp badger]

Only monitors i've bookmarked is M27Q(Rev.2) , FO27Q3 & Flexmirror but have started to look into 32:9 and also 4K monitors now

[reef patrol]

The sheer amount of mods sounds like a question for #🔧│keyboard_modding to be honest. 🙂

[bright briar]

thank you, i'll look into those recommendations rn i have LG 1440 165hz 1 ms monitor but its starting to go

i was thinking of going into 4k monitors but i play a lot of triple AAA games and i know some cant be played at 4k 60fps consistently

[blazing forge]

oh im sorry

[digital cliff]

so 45g spring to replace a 50g spring

doesn't seem like it makes much sense to me

[reef patrol]

Not a complaint. Just saying you're more likely to get useful opinions over there.

[blazing forge]

ight i appreciate it i didnt know there was a channel for keyboard moddings! thanks ❤️

[vocal otter]

I wanted the L45 with no wobble and a 3.5mm keystroke.

[digital cliff]

changing the spring wouldn't make the l45 have no wobble or a shorter keystroke 🤔

[vocal otter]

I think the jade key switches are less wobbly than the L45.

[digital cliff]

but you said you put the jade spring into the L45

[vocal otter]

I'm Japanese and Google translate didn't work properly.

[digital cliff]

こんにちは

[vocal otter]

sorry

こんにちは

[sharp badger]

Same but do play a lot of indie games nowadays also just pondering how i'd like to have my setup so things might change

[bright briar]

fair enough

[worldly dune]

hey guys, i got a question: for gaming do you recommend the L45 or L60 switches?

[umbral heron]

Whichever you prefer

[reef patrol]

L80

[worldly dune]

Real funny.

[reef patrol]

I am dead serious

[nimble canopy]

L100

[reef patrol]

https://wooting.io/product/lekker-spring-packs?Weight=Linear80
I use customized L60v2 with L80 springs

[worldly dune]

ahh alr

[nimble canopy]

Just waiting for the v2 to come out

[gusty kiln]

https://www.techpowerup.com/324314/qnap-100-gbe-switch-qsw-m7308r-4x-upgrades-to-l3-lite-management

100 GbE switch

[bright briar]

thats a spring pack when puedo is asking for switches themselves👀

[reef patrol]

I can't answer the question within their limtations, as I do not like or use either 😄

[bright briar]

https://tenor.com/view/jedi-obi-wan-mind-trick-gif-25169300

[worldly dune]

But wouldn't L80 springs make the actuation force a tad higher or would there be no noticeable difference?

[reef patrol]

Heavier to push down, fewer accidental presses.

[bright briar]

what switches do you use ?

[astral haven]

how much tho, mikrotik already has a pair of dudes for at and under 1k

[reef patrol]

#🔌│tech message

[bright briar]

i got my eyes on you mansen

[gusty kiln]

https://store.qnap.com/catalog/product/view/id/2295?ref=wtb

[reef patrol]

It's the truth

[astral haven]

"The 100GbE QSFP28 interfaces DO NOT support breakout cables."
😦

[gusty kiln]

oof

how big of a array would you need to saturate 100 GbE, using HDD

[astral haven]

big, but a single nvme cache could saturate 100g

[gusty kiln]

I guess dual actuators would make it a little easier

[astral haven]

or get a bunch of ram and a single nvme for cache

[gusty kiln]

kek

[umbral heron]

Is it worth it getting outlet or ex-display RAM? For like... 20€ less?

[ashen spindle]

sure

[sharp badger]

Can always buy it and test it

[umbral heron]

Not really, I'll have to wait for some parts

[ashen spindle]

unless they like let it sit in rain dispaly case ram isnt any different from boxed ram

[umbral heron]

One kit is ex-display, 6000, seller says they've been tested
Other one is new with torn box, 6400
They cost more or less the same, 1760zł/413€ vs 1780zł/417€

[digital cliff]

400€ for RAM?

which timeline is this :o

[umbral heron]

2x 48GB sticks

[balmy vector]

Beeeg ram

[ashen spindle]

should still be able to get 96 for like 350

but idk how converstion rates are so maybe you're getting a bit screwed

[sharp badger]

There's rarely any fault with ram but there's still a chance

[umbral heron]

There are some 5200 ones for like 255€, that'd be the cheapest

[ashen spindle]

oh wait it was set to usd nvm then

seems about the same then, would likely go with 6000 unless the timings are super loose

because >6000 is still harder to get running especially on higher capacity

[sharp badger]

There's something like this (40-40-40-77)

[umbral heron]

5200 will still be way better than 2666 I'm running right now

These ones are for 250€ https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1711955176/F5-5200J4040A48GX2-RS5K

[sharp badger]

Which mobo are you going to buy?

[smoky frigate]

having the time of my life putting two soundbokses together, a 3 and a 4. paired wirelessly, there is a noticeable delay between the two, but using good old aux works perfectly 👌

[umbral heron]

B650 Livemixer

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Calslock/saved/JJMdFT

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ma-vie-cards-shifty-oops-fail-gif-17242923

[steep creek]

i love that motherboard, looks great

[balmy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-balatro-balatro-jimbo-balatro-burnt-joker-joker-gif-3698202123090378508

[smoky frigate]

wait, there is one, but it's minor

[sharp badger]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/memory/cmh96gx5m2b6000c30/vengeance-rgb-96gb-2x48gb-ddr5-dram-6000mt-s-cl30-memory-kit-black-cmh96gx5m2b6000c30 This should be Hynix M-die

Which you've already got

[umbral heron]

These are the ex-display ones, exact same model

[sharp badger]

Ok 👀

Think that M-die is better with timings and A-die with frequency

[unkempt lake]

Why a 7950x3d tho

[ashen spindle]

its for work

[unkempt lake]

Do you really need the boost in productivity? A 7800x3d still has pretty good perf

[unkempt lake]

How much work tho that's the big question

[ashen spindle]

its worth it

[unkempt lake]

Enough to be worth all that extra money?

[umbral heron]

Aight then, let's give it a shot
Plan is to get RAM and mobo now, CPU and PSU next month after a bonus and GPU somewhere down the line, I cleaned and replaced paste on brother's 1070Ti and it stopped freaking out for now

[reef patrol]

Why not wait till you can build something whole and functional?

[unkempt lake]

Money

I'm guessing

[reef patrol]

You're expecting prices to go up on the RAM and Mobo in a month?

[umbral heron]

Because there will always be some expenses down the line, and if I won't start with smaller purchases, I'll never get to buy the whole setup all at once

[unkempt lake]

I like how this motherboard is xalled the livemixer

Yet uses a Realtek ALC897

Also one thing i do find odd @umbral heron if this is for a workstation why not go for an x series chipset

Get pcie 5

I'd pay the little extra if i were you

[umbral heron]

PCIe 3 is more than enough for me

[ashen spindle]

workstation doesnt mean you instantly max out everything a pc can offer

and the b650 ones have gen5 pcie so thats all you need

[lyric hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/spendlessmoney-anime-gif-4963180

[unkempt lake]

Not this one

[ashen spindle]

yes this one?

[unkempt lake]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650 LiveMixer/Specification.asp#Specification

Look

[umbral heron]

[ashen spindle]

guess I could have written pcie m.2 to be precise

since that is all you need really aside from very specific weird things

[unkempt lake]

Omfg im retarded

lol

tired

I swear i had read 4.0

Oh well xd

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X670E-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI @umbral heron here's what i used for my build

[balmy vector]

I love MSI’s dragon mascot

[unkempt lake]

Got it for like 100$ off so i was happy

[umbral heron]

That's like twice as expensive

[unkempt lake]

same

[unkempt lake]

Well it was on sale

I didnt pay full price

The on sale price was good enough for me xd

[umbral heron]

I don't really see the reason to get X670
I have B450 now, it works fine

[unkempt lake]

But i get that full price its pricy

[unkempt lake]

All depends on the price

If there'a a good deal why not

But yeah b650 is a better value at msrp

[ashen spindle]

even if you get a good deal, if you still pay more and dont make use of anything it's not really worth it usually

[unkempt lake]

also that silver and teal color was just really speaking to me

I'll admit

[ashen spindle]

fair enough

[unkempt lake]

It's a really pretty board

[unkempt lake]

Yeah kinda nudged me to spend the little extra haha

[balmy vector]

I should get an msi dragon plush

[unkempt lake]

My gpu is silver too so it just looks nice and clean

[unkempt lake]

i agree

Btw @ashen spindle i got my refund on my defective board

victory

[ashen spindle]

oh right I guess thats not a obvious outcome over there xD

nice

[unkempt lake]

They charged me a 10$ restocking fee for the extra cpu i had ordered just in case tho even tho ot was sealed

[balmy vector]

Waiting for paycheck patiently

[unkempt lake]

But hey look it was worth ordering it as a just in case everything fucks up peace of mind

[reef patrol]

The fuck is a restocking fee?

Oh for a return

[unkempt lake]

Because it wasn't defective they chsrged me 10$ as a fee to take the sealed cpu back

Cuz it wasn't their fault technically that i didnt neex it

[reef patrol]

Must be sad not living in the EU 😄

[unkempt lake]

I mean 10$ i can live without lol

[umbral heron]

Ah shucks, I have to wait until tomorrow with order

[unkempt lake]

Rip

[umbral heron]

I have a system
I use Pay Later option during checkout
Then wait 1~3 days until they'll send me all legal stuff as in I took a loan for an order
Just as I get it - I pay it back
I have a great credit score that way

[unkempt lake]

i just pay my stuff cash

loaning and pay later shit stresses me out

Like what if everything goes to shit all of a sudden

What do i do then

Ok maybe im just paranoid

[umbral heron]

In 24~72 hours?
Besides it's not like I'm spending money I don't have

[unkempt lake]

But i just hate the idea of owing money like if i use my credit card i insta pay it on my app lol

Because im stressed about forgetting to pay it

[astral haven]

having credit cards with tiny purchases on them is also super good for the score

[astral haven]

how about using autopay?

[unkempt lake]

What if an emergency happens and all your savings get siphoned

Somehow

[umbral heron]

I don't have a CC, only debit

[unkempt lake]

Catastrophically

[umbral heron]

Not sure how, I do have separate savings account

[unkempt lake]

Like what if your house catches on fire and you're stuck waiting for insurance money

[ashen spindle]

the credit score system we have here is chaning and there is a chance it's basically becoming useless lol

so I dont care about it at all

[balmy vector]

I do the exact same shit

[unkempt lake]

Debit doesn't work online here

[astral haven]

do cc companies in your country charge for them?
here in the us its generally beneficial to use a cc for most transactions in terms of rewards

[unkempt lake]

You need a CC for that

In canada

Or use something like paypal to use debit

[steep creek]

debit here works exactly the same way as cc when buying stuff online here

[unkempt lake]

Nico found that confusing at first when i explained that he needed a CC here

Lol

[steep creek]

same when i was told that by an american haha

[umbral heron]

In my bank it's 40€ per year or 80€ per year if you spent less than 4000€ in given year
Debit one is free, given I make at least 5 payments monthly