🔌│tech

[rough patrol]

nice car

[fair gull]

finally someone digs into all these bullshit ISOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyMHBKlNk9c

[final flame]

turns out when you remove critical stuff, it leads to less security

[pale sigil]

Why is it showing such a low %

It's much fuller than that

[ashen spindle]

read what it shows

doesnt show how full the drive is but the % of the size together

24%+76%=100%

[pale sigil]

Oh

Guess I don't usually scan both at the same time

[rough patrol]

people will really blame anything but themselves for losing a cs2 match

"the latency is too high!!! Windows added 0.02s of latency!!!"

[sudden imp]

What is a gaming ISO

[ashen spindle]

a scam

[balmy vector]

[gusty kiln]

[fair gull]

3 slots tasty

[wheat plume]

I love how Eric just got so popular recently

[modest hamlet]

Id be concerned about only having super glue attaching all three together (along with zips) but it seems pretty cool 😎

[analog sinew]

no broo i need 8k polling thats why im hardstuck silver

[steep creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkbV8oP-F44

tldw is they hard coded the api keys so every user shares the same keys

[modest hamlet]

using novelty hardware to sell your data scraper and then theres problems in software qc?

obligitory screen grab of +4 min vid

[steep creek]

this is why i love de arrow the extension

[modest hamlet]

never mind about

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-virtual-insanity-template-walking-dancing-rearranging-furnitures-gif-27710286

virtual insanity, its just original flavor

[vagrant pagoda]

Triple 92s?

[gusty kiln]

oh it's not mine, just like thw way it looks

but most likely 92s

[shrewd cipher]

Put some Noctua NF-A14 industrial on there

And go full blast

[hasty thunder]

uh... there are 24V 140mm ones from Arctic with a 18k RPM speed

[shrewd cipher]

Are they good with static pressure?

[old marlin]

they are 18k rpm, what do you think

also not like any of them would fit really

[hasty thunder]

probably not, industrial fans are very thick

other than that they're 24V

you don't get 24V anywhere in a PC

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-test-converting-convert-change-changing-gif-24249158

[hasty thunder]

[shrewd cipher]

Thats no real issue, i just wire/build something myself

[shrewd cipher]

There are more factors than just rpm

[old marlin]

might as well go with 240V ones

[umbral heron]

Just connect 2 12V lines, duh

[old marlin]

they would have to mess up bad to not just blow the water out of regular fans when they run like 5-10 times their rpm

[hasty thunder]

400V AC pls

[old marlin]

I mean technically that can work

[hasty thunder]

[old marlin]

that is basically how transformers make 110V in the US power grid

just the other way around

[old marlin]

not sure if you can get a formfactor that you could still fir inside a PC with that lol

there are like 120x35 240v ones tho

[hasty thunder]

you gotta account for the Sine wave modulation too, which makes Live 2 and Live 3 possible in the first place

[umbral heron]

You'd have to connect GND of one line to VCC of the other and then connect load between VCC of first and GND of second
And if they share grounds... that's no bueno

[hasty thunder]

just go with an external engine then instead

[old marlin]

you can do -12V and +12V with a shared ground

[shrewd cipher]

A few of those plugged directly to the wall

[umbral heron]

Oh, there is -12V on ATX, i forgor

[old marlin]

combustion engine

and you use a turbo to pump fresh air on your gpu

[hasty thunder]

there are some people who've actually mounted these things to their basement walls and ran tubes to the room above, where their desk is

[hasty thunder]

rotary go brap

[old marlin]

easier to route all the other stuff up tbh

[hasty thunder]

[old marlin]

they make for horrible generators

[hasty thunder]

you gonna laugh, but it was a german fella who did it

[old marlin]

very much not surprising

considering where moras come from lol

[hasty thunder]

[old marlin]

+has a basement

[shrewd cipher]

Got the engine, now i need a fan

[hasty thunder]

doesn't seem to be an issue in Mazdas eyes

[old marlin]

they wanted somethign small lol

[hasty thunder]

and i want the RX-9

[old marlin]

turbine PHEV when

[hasty thunder]

sure, the RX Vision looked like a weird mix of a SLK 500 and an RX-7, but who cares

it goes brap, that's all that matters

[shrewd cipher]

What bothers me with all the modern cars is all the electronic crap that got added on.. All the assistance bs, rev limiter, etc. really annoys me, cant even turn off TC/ESP on some cars anymore.

The Cyan P1800 would be my dream car so far xD

[umbral heron]

Cars used to be perfect

[hasty thunder]

the worst fact is that some of these things are mandatory these days, thanks to some stupid decisions in our politics

if i'd have a say in politics young people wouldn't get shit from me. ABS, ESP, power steering. That's it

well, not only young people, but also those who have their license for less than 3 years

[small patrol]

Anyone knows about hall sensor used in 60he or 80he?

[umbral heron]

What about it?

[hasty thunder]

and the only way to be allowed to get an unrestricted license are 3 years of proven practice without a single accident, speeding ticket or other stuff

[small patrol]

Making a WASD only analog keyboard with rapid triggger

So I would like to use the sensor used in 60he or 80he

[shrewd cipher]

My mom used to drive one of these

[shrewd cipher]

Yeah, way too much crap forced onto ppl/cars nowadays

[umbral heron]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[shrewd cipher]

My neighbour also has an old BMW 2002 tii, its so beutiful ;-;

[hasty thunder]

i mean a fucking Blackbox that's recording everything is required to be installed for newly built cars these days

as well as a warning signal if you overstep the speed limit

[shrewd cipher]

Thats why i stay with old cars

[hasty thunder]

like... wtf... People are driving 55 in a 50 here in germany anyway

[old marlin]

Cayse they think it's legal, when it really is 53

[shrewd cipher]

The stuff i got in my F21 is the maximum i accep.. Just the most important baseline stuff, handshifter and Xenon/Led lights.
Gonna keep that car alive, even if i put the 4th engine in it.

[hasty thunder]

53 is still fine by me. What's annoying me is the fact that these assistances nowadays are forced upon you

and not all of them are meant to do good to you as a driver

especially the lane holding is the biggest bullshit...

when i brought my GR86 to inspection i got a Yaris GR from them till my GR86 is done. The damn lane assistant almost pushed me off the road, because it prioritized white lines rather than the yellow ones

[small patrol]

Thank you

[shrewd cipher]

Or the moment when ya wanna swerve to avoid something, but the lane assist nopes at ya

[hasty thunder]

yep...

especially when it goes hard and refuses your own input

when i ever decide to buy a new car it's literally the first thing i'll hack to fuck off

[shrewd cipher]

The braking assistance as well, shit goes off for no reason

Or if someone cuts u off

[hasty thunder]

still better than ramming a truck during a demonstration

https://tenor.com/view/volvo-xc60-braking-test-gif-20594510

[shrewd cipher]

Ive got eyes, im always 100% focused while driving

[hasty thunder]

same here

[old marlin]

I mean you really should be

[hasty thunder]

you'd be surprised how many stupid people are playing on their phone these days

[shrewd cipher]

Boss even is annoyed that i dont connect my phone to the free speech assistant on the comp car

[old marlin]

yea

ngl I personally am really afraid of looking at my phone while driving

[shrewd cipher]

Not only that, but the absolute ignorance from some ppl is just insane

They just dont look

[hasty thunder]

i mean you should be. After all you're moving 2 tons of metal and plastic with enough kinetic energy to kill an entire class of kids in one go

[shrewd cipher]

Thats what a lot of ppl forget

Also noticed ppl in big cars having a false sense of security, driving like morons

[hasty thunder]

that's usually the issue of any SUV driver

even the new Miata is a safer thing than a GLK 500

[old marlin]

I love seeing people drive their big af mercedes suv at like 150+km/h while having their right indicator going for 20 minutes

[hasty thunder]

[old marlin]

depends on the impact

car on car probably not

car on wall etc probably

car on wall ends up looking like that

[hasty thunder]

because they don't hear the indicator anyway with their stereo blasting at Vol. 30

just yesterday night i had an idiot snailing at 160 on the left lane and left indicator on for 5 minutes

[old marlin]

it was me (not really)

btw, I got a 50 zone at my local autobahn now

which is probably a permanent 50

[hasty thunder]

passed him on the right, ran 165 in front of him, revved the engine hard to provoke a misfire and after the misfire all i heard was a honk and a flasher in the mirror

[old marlin]

you should have done that to him

(totally legal btw)

[hasty thunder]

his car probably acted up recognizing the misfire for something else, because all i saw after that was his car getting smaller in the mirror at a rapid pace

[old marlin]

I mean you have proper indicators for wanting to take over, just use those

[hasty thunder]

i was behind him for 3 minutes, honking, flashing, indicating

he didn't get the hints

[old marlin]

then you got another good tool

https://tenor.com/view/karin-ritter-das-gibt-ne-anzeige-rtl-display-look-gif-15865854

[hasty thunder]

ram his ass off the road?

https://tenor.com/view/road-rage-traffic-crash-wreck-explosion-gif-20147549

[shrewd cipher]

Reminds me of the widebody glk driver that blocked the left lane on a construction site, cuz the wanted to overtake a truck.. Clearly it didnt fit cuz max width was 2.1m.

Also loved that 90s fiat with barely visible lights creeping arround on the left lane (3 lanes were aviable) with like 80 Kmh in the middle of the night.. Was going over 200 Kmh.

[modest hamlet]

I didn't know lane assist would mess with you that bad or any of the other driving "assistance options". That is crazy. Although not as crazy as some of the drivers over here in the OO SA or any of the Giant Trucks that are just for looks and not ever used.

[shrewd cipher]

99% of the time they safe ya, and the last 1% is them trying to actively kill u

[hasty thunder]

in my case it's the exact opposite

99% of the time it tries to kill me

as if i don't know the width of the car

[shrewd cipher]

Heavily depends on how good u drive to begin with, for shitty drivers the 99% is true

[modest hamlet]

this type of truck is more common then you think over here and in all diff verities and styles. From Petrol to Coal Rolling diesel. From 80's beater to G wagons. Its tiresome

[hasty thunder]

wow... hey...

never had an accident since i got my license

[shrewd cipher]

Not an insult

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/trucks-ford-rolling-coal-diesel-gif-7391563

[shrewd cipher]

At least towards u

[hasty thunder]

well, there was a slight accident i had, caused by aqua planning, but no one except my wallet got harmed

[old marlin]

some of them are really aggressive

[hasty thunder]

but since it was something i was able to fix myself i didn't report the accident. Just fixed it and moved on

[old marlin]

I mean due to how insurances work here it sometimes is worth it to just fix stuff out of your own wallet instead of reporting it in general

[hasty thunder]

not to mention that it takes ages till something happens on their side

[old marlin]

[modest hamlet]

yeah one of the reasons Merica is so fat is cause its so spread out and not may towns/cities have sidewalks so to not have a car is looked down on. So you buy a beater for 10k and it runs like shit but at least you ain't walking

[hasty thunder]

a friend of mine got her car totally wrecked by a drunken fella. It took the insurance company half a year to pay for the damage

HALF A YEAR!

[old marlin]

yea coworker had something similar happen and it also took ages

issue is that often there are some legal battles involved

[modest hamlet]

yeah I think it was 1/3 of every driver where Im at had no insurance. That was a wile back IDK what it is now

is your friend ok?

[hasty thunder]

there was absolutely no reason for a legal battle. Drunk moron with 2.1 promille crashed her car, wrecked both cars, police recorded everything

[old marlin]

guy on drugs just ran over a roundabout (quite a tall one as well) and just frontally collided with him, somehow everyone got out without major injuries

[old marlin]

the drunk driver has a legal battle against the state

[modest hamlet]

dafuq?

[hasty thunder]

like what kind of legal dispute requires half a year when he was clearly drunk and not supposed to drive?

[old marlin]

just delays it by like 1-2 months

and then insurances do their thing where they don't wanna pay you

[old marlin]

he got super lucky and his engine got squished out the side instead of getting pushed inside the cabin

[hasty thunder]

i have absolutely no mercy with people driving under influence, be it drugs or alcohol

license revoke for lifetime and done

[old marlin]

I mean in germany it is a long, tough and expensive way back lol

oh he also had to drag him out of his car after the crash

[modest hamlet]

I know people that have had their vehical totaled but the money that they got wouldn't cover any car even though the car totaled would have gone for more. Sucks

[old marlin]

since the guy was unconcious

[hasty thunder]

it shouldn't be a long, tough and expensive one. Just revoke the license with no way to obtain one ever again, done

[shrewd cipher]

Meant it more in the way of; if you dont give it a chance to save ya from your fuckup (cuz u dont do any), it can only act when the system itself fucks up

[old marlin]

yea not a thing here

[hasty thunder]

that way people will think twice about stupid decisions

[old marlin]

if you were not at fault you basically just have to wait for your insurance company

if you were at fault in some way or form you still get a lot of money back but drop in SF, which makes insurances more expensive

[old marlin]

I mean that basically is how it works in bad cases lol

they just decide you can't get a license until they feel otherwise

without any set date

[hasty thunder]

there are way worse things... i had a legal dispute about the wrecked R34 of my dad, because the insurance company really wanted the car while i wanted to keep it and restore it

so i was running through 3 stages of courts just to keep what was supposed to belong to me in the first place

[shrewd cipher]

Ppl will just keep going without one, if u put heavy charges on that, they will try to evade.

[modest hamlet]

there was a gal that told me she couldn't get into Physical Therapy school cause she got a DUI at 18? I think? That hurt her IDK untill later

[hasty thunder]

as said, i have absolutely no mercy with such people

[old marlin]

getting a DUI at a young age here is rather easy

[shrewd cipher]

Thats fucked up

[old marlin]

since the rules are different for beginner drivers

[hasty thunder]

0.0 promille during your trial years

[shrewd cipher]

Should be 0.0 in general

[hasty thunder]

and even after that it's 0.3 from a certain date of obtaining your license

[shrewd cipher]

Doesnt matter how long u drive

[old marlin]

actually 0.3 and 0.5 without any signs are treated the same

and if you get in an accident then it doesn't matter, and you are DUI anyways

[modest hamlet]

I knew a gal that was killed by a drunk driver in high school so yeah. JPN and S Korea have a pretty good DUI system

there are services that you can call to drive you home in your car and ther is a follow car that takes them back

[shrewd cipher]

Hope he got a murder charge

[reef patrol]

sniffs

Sure smells like #🔌│tech in here

[old marlin]

we are talking about technicalities

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-doctor-leo-fitz-technology-gif-14038179

[hasty thunder]

it simply doesn't wanna get in my head why people are willing to risk the life of others as well as their own one, just to get their car at home or come home quick

[old marlin]

like murder requiring it to be planned here and not just something that happened in the heat of the moment

[shrewd cipher]

They dont think too far, they just be like "monkey see, monkey do"

[hasty thunder]

nope, it doesn't require the planning shit anymore. A clear intention of killing someone is enough these days

[old marlin]

still can't happen in the heat of the moment

[hasty thunder]

after all it's proven that most murders happen by affection

[modest hamlet]

in JPN its a BAC of 0.03 or above

[odd aspen]

FSR 3.1 dropped yesterday. first impressions seem to be pretty good.

[old marlin]

actually have my first game where I didn't notice upsampling was on until I looked at settings

[modest hamlet]

I think its great for older cards to be able to still be used

[old marlin]

too bad I can't tell you which version or game it is

[modest hamlet]

oh and AMD

[odd aspen]

It's crazy to me that AMD manages to come close to DLSS without any AI.

[modest hamlet]

you forgot the "" around AI

[old marlin]

almost as if AI is marketing bs

[modest hamlet]

its the new novel tech speak, a thing people can "grasp" to know its the new hotness and they should look for it if its new, cool and Hip

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-electrolytes-gatorade-thirsty-dehydrated-gif-14846789

[hasty thunder]

because it is

[old marlin]

no shit

[hasty thunder]

anyone in the industry will tell you it's bullshit

at least in its current state

[shrewd cipher]

AI PSU

[hasty thunder]

it's just a basic if, then command in the code itself

[shrewd cipher]

Also love AI storage

[old marlin]

eh, not necessarily

they can still create fancy vector arithmetic maps to reference when upscaling

[modest hamlet]

I mean for the non tech enthusiasts marketing word hype is harmless? I think that people that with everyday lives wont really care so to have a signifier is an overall good thing. Its just that when 2T gets hyped I wonder whats going on

[shrewd cipher]

But as soon as u ask them what the AI does, they go silent

[hasty thunder]

by all honesty, they should stop using "AI for every single bullshit these days and focus on stuff like lossless compression instead

[rough patrol]

ai storage, intelligently allocated storage space depending on empty sections and optimized for faster reading times in hdd

[hasty thunder]

"let's use AI to promote our product of AI stuff"
"but who's going to code it?"
"the AI will figure it out"

[modest hamlet]

"Quantum Computing" is going to make a comeback in some form or another when it is worth something

[hasty thunder]

i mean it's definitely worth something, but we aren't even close to build one with a proper use case

[modest hamlet]

like how many lay offs where because of the hype? and were they worth it?

IDK change happens and I think that if the people in charge can "see" it they react. Its not direct market demand so IDK Id rather have the consumer point the way more so then the shareholders.

like with some companies they see a tech build on it and get a little edge of the market and I think overall thats how it was (IDK im no econ person) and we get cool shit like everlasting keyboards

On like IP the only way (from what I understand) that China has difficulty in getting past 7nm chips is because of the AWESOMENESS that is the complicated machinery, system, quality etc. of TSMC and ASML. Both are great (I think) and that in a global world to hold back IP theft you need to make something so complicated from ALL parts of the world that it is non-replicable. Ingenious and insane but necessary which sucks cause what is anyone else to do when they want to make something and not have it stolen right out of their fingertips. Maybe to only make it in the one place where it can be stolen. IDK if that is sustainable which then adds tensions. That fucking sucks. ANY WHO TGIF am I right fellow humans

[shrewd cipher]

Me new case aboutta come

Then i can finally start planning how big the radiators etc. can be ^^

[vagrant pagoda]

What did you get?

[shrewd cipher]

InWin Modfree, wanna do a kind of dual chamber

[vagrant pagoda]

Neet

[shrewd cipher]

Plan to put all the watercooling parts behind the MoBo, so none of the heat goes there

And i wanna go complete overkill on the radiator xD

s

[reef patrol]

There's no inherent benefit in putting rads in a different chamber.

Just make sure the airflow is good and strong.

[vagrant pagoda]

Probably negative most of the time

As most people doing that will neglect the primary chamber airflow

[solar dawn]

Does the Wooting Works on ps5

[reef patrol]

As a keyboard in games that support keyboards? Yes. But you need to set up the keyboard on a PC first.

[hasty thunder]

untamed answered him already

[reef patrol]

In that case I'll have to scold someone for crossposting 😛

[hasty thunder]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1256277998395461793

[reef patrol]

See. Different location 😛

[shrewd cipher]

It is for getting a better airflow, the rads have their own area and the air in the MoBo area can flow with as little restriction as possible.

[reef patrol]

You're just doubling up on fans at that point.

The air you're taking away from the main chamber needs to be replaced.

Don't let anyone stop your grandiose build - But do give that poor mobo some air

[empty wren]

Future motion coping hard

Goes from completely closed off system with the worst possible setup to 6inch hub(from 6.5), replaceable components and angled rails. Lolz

[hasty thunder]

that logo reminds me of something....

[empty wren]

Hmm?

[empty wren]

Also still overpriced

[hasty thunder]

ngl, it looks like a cheap ass copy of the old NFS logo

[empty wren]

Ahhh

[hasty thunder]

even if they deny copying the logo, the inspiration is obvious

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-gif-6432181860357799854

[shrewd cipher]

No worries, that MoBo will get plenty of air

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/25vQ1YcBZZs O.o

[shrewd cipher]

Also the majority of the air wont be taken out of the main chamber, i block it off as good as possible. The secondary chamber gets its own air intake.

And yea, im stacking up on fans

[wheat plume]

This wallpaper LOL

[spare cobalt]

wait thats fire

[wheat plume]

YEAH XD

[fierce terrace]

ok so wheres that nh-d15 gen 2?

i hope they wont let people wait another 8 years...

[wheat plume]

LOL
A+ for honest marketing

[thick elk]

Unless it doesn't really work / work well.

[hasty thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/Z0DF-MOkotA?si=vLDwEDwwLpSpbn1j

[unkempt lake]

Hi

[little silo]

hey

[old marlin]

(I finally remembered)

[unkempt lake]

Turns out it was just a wierd glitch that made auto not set itself to 2000 automatically in my case

[old marlin]

hmm

[unkempt lake]

After looking it up for 6000 it should have always been 2000 fclk

Which is well... the same as you use and the same as i has manually put it

Disabling and reenabling EXPO made it 2000 on auto lol

[twilit orchid]

my wooting 60he is not being detected, ive tried diff usb ports, and diff cable, yet not working, please help

[hasty thunder]

#1019755933959733258

[spare cobalt]

what was this called and is it on wallpaper engine

[wheat plume]

I have no idea xd

[spare cobalt]

dang

[wheat plume]

Monica ?!

[vagrant pagoda]

Amazon sent me a physical letter letting me know that Amazon music exists and that I get it with prime

[empty wren]

Lol

[unkempt lake]

<@&1098943457654997093>

[lofty pivot]

i feel like louis rossmann is coming at it like he wanted mkbhd to be doing some debate or investigation vs. mkbhd was just doing an interview/videos to see apples side of the story

i'm not really sure why louis thinks the video was ever meant to be a piece of investigative journalism. He makes good points in regards to apple but I don't know what that has to be with mkbhd still and why it's his job to turn his video into that type of video

[mild dome]

Interviews ideally SHOULD call out the Interviewie for lies. MKBHD does have a responsibility to prevent the spread of misinformation. Everyone does

To add: if mkbhd is just going to uncritically pass through Apple's misinformation, then he's an unpaid Apple representative

[lofty pivot]

it wasn't a full interview or even the focus of the video

this idea that everyone has a responsibility to make only hard hitting journalism pieces is silly, especially from a youtuber who has never been in the business of doing hard hitting journalism pieces

he made a video looking at the behind the scenes of apples iphone testing lab and the interview portion was only the final 3 minutes of the video. I get that rossman wants every video to focus on criticism and journalism ala gamers nexus, but it was never the focus or point of that video

[mild dome]

Then mk could've done the responsible thing and edited the video to add some facts

Not allow Apple to use him like that

[lofty pivot]

did you watch the video?

the portion that rossman is criticizing is pretty minor and not even the main focus

this idea that a youtuber has to change their entire channels focus and editing just because rossman wants every video to be hard hitting journalism is absurd. The video was literally just a behind the scenes look at apples testing center

[mild dome]

Doesn't matter if it's minor mk still has a responsibility

[lofty pivot]

why does he have that responsibility?

[mild dome]

It's not changing it for Rossman, it's for the viewers

[mild dome]

If mk published a video where he uncritically interviewed someone telling everyone to drink bleach and his viewers did, mk would be viewed as responsible

[lofty pivot]

Again, what responsibility does he have here? It wasn't even as if he even agreed fully with apple, he just didn't focus on hitting back with the parts he disagreed because it was literally a 3 minute snippet and would have detracted from the video

[lofty pivot]

this is the literal definition of a strawman

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-omg-oh-my-god-who-the-hell-cares-gif-5137136

[mild dome]

He could've removed the interview segment if it was really that important

[reef patrol]

Letter soup techbro was never hard hitting journalism

[mild dome]

It iant

[lofty pivot]

it's not that important. Literally the only people who think it's this important are rossman and his followers

[mild dome]

Then let Rossman tear apple apart here and be on your way

[lofty pivot]

you just compared a small portion of edited clips from a 3 min interview with suggesting viewers drink bleach.

let that sink in for a second.

[mild dome]

A 3 minute portion of viewers being told lies to a more extreme case where users are told lies to get the point across thay maybe content creators should have responsibility

[lofty pivot]

You can support rossman's take all you want, but you can't complain and say 'be on your way' if someone disagrees with his pov. Both sides are able to have a take.

[mild dome]

Your the one arguing it don't matter

I am pointing our if you don't think it matters then stop

[lofty pivot]

What?

[reef patrol]

Ladies please.

[lofty pivot]

I think it doesn't matter in the context of rossman and his followers thinking another youtuber must only make hard hitting journalism

It's okay to believe that apple does a lot of shitty things, and he's right, they do. However that doesn't mean every youtuber needs to turn every video into what rossman believes the take/edit should be

[reef patrol]

Louis finds the "interview" pointless and a fluff piece without actually going into a proper interview with critical questions.

[lofty pivot]

yeah and he's right because it is - it was just an add-on section at the end of a bigger video on the behind the scenes at apples testing center

[reef patrol]

And that's a fair observation and opinion. It clearly wasn't intended to be a critical inquiry, just another marketing friendly, harmless 20 questions (but not THOSE questions) thing.

[lofty pivot]

yeah exactly. I don't see why people are trying to rake mkbhd over the coals over it

[mild dome]

Mkbhd could've not added it then

[lofty pivot]

It added value to the video seeing how apple thinks/presents themselves as - even if you disagree with their take

[reef patrol]

Wordsoup techbro has never been known to challenge manufacturers.

He's the guy you call up, when you want a nice, positive techbro video on your stuff.

[mild dome]

Ah so he's the ad man

[lofty pivot]

he literally just does simple overviews of new tech and mostly just visually nice looking pieces. Saying everything not gamernexus style is an ad is a reach

[reef patrol]

Yes.

[lofty pivot]

there is a place for both types of content. You can have both the mkbhd of the world and the gamers nexus of the world - they can both exist and make videos for their niches without needing to pretend to be the other half

[reef patrol]

It's like Linus' "totally not a review, just an unboxing guys, but it's still somehow a review just without the expectation of critical review"

[mild dome]

If anything shouldn't it be more important that Rossman point out he always gives corporate a good image so any potential viewers of alphabet soup are aware he's not honest then

[reef patrol]

Aka. Short-circuit

[lofty pivot]

except he doesn't. He does criticise lightly in the context of his reviews

[mild dome]

Yeah I tend to skip short circuit videos

[lofty pivot]

just that this particular video wasn't a review, it was literally just a behind the scenes at apple lab

[mild dome]

Well his viewers should still be aware of his failing is Rossman and my point here

[lofty pivot]

it's not really a failing. The video and the interview never had anything to do with rossmans points

For the record I 100% agree with rossmans take on apple. They need to do better and don't do things right with repairability etc. - but going after mkbhd for this video is like going after a random 5 min iphone overview video for not addressing apples labor practices in china

[mild dome]

It increases the chance that fans of mk who've never watched anything else might click on Rossman's video and learn something they were not aware of

[lofty pivot]

that's a pretty condescending statement

[mild dome]

It's not, some people are not on the internet 24/7 and have maybe 1 techtuber they watch and no more

[lofty pivot]

If that is his goal (to educate viewers of mkbhd) it could have been done in a much better way to achieve that goal

if anything the way he did it is only going to make these 'i only watch 1 channel' fans think louis rossman is a kind of an asshole and not listen to his take because of the way he went about it

[mild dome]

Did you watch his video? Sounds like you didn't

[lofty pivot]

yes I did, i listened to the whole 40min rant style and I've probably been watching his videos longer than you

again I don't disagree with his takes. Someone can both be right but also be presenting their 'rightness' in a very sub par manner

[modest hamlet]

Louis can be a butt sometimes and thats ok because that is him. In the first 15 sec he says that he is responding to a vid because he has been asked to by many of his viewers over the past two weeks.

So again its not for everyone just for the followers who asked.

[lofty pivot]

^ yeah I don't watch louis to watch a calm, structured and productive conversation. His entire thing since his early beginnings has always been the very logically correct rant that edges on the side of meth speak

[modest hamlet]

and?

[lofty pivot]

nothing. I agree with his take like I said, while disagreeing with mkbhd being the focus here

[modest hamlet]

ok then talk to the people that asked him to talk about it. Also he said he was depressed about the topic in the beginning as there was a "fundamental, emotional block of aggravation. When I do it."

calling out another YTer or company and saying hey do better I think is his MO.

[lofty pivot]

wait i'm confused, what are we discussing here? I don't have a problem with him and I know he just does his videos to rant

[modest hamlet]

Like apha soup tech dude I like I think he does great since he calls bs on lets say novilty AI hardware that looks cool but is doo doo but him posting an Apple vid wile EVERY tech tuber is posting about and from Computex. Seems odd, kinda like Apple saying HEY WE ARE HERE TOO LOOK AT US AND WATER ON PHONES!. but that they used Mr. HD and he went with it.... ehhhh IDK

thats my take on just the Mr. HD vid not on said Louis vid

[lofty pivot]

that's always been mkbhd i think. His review videos are also usually not put out at the same time as other reviewers

usually he does a lot of brief overview takes early on, then he'll drop the review randomly later

[modest hamlet]

cause he has good access and puts out a quality product

[lofty pivot]

yeah it's his thing to really focus on quality of the video edit from what I've seen

[modest hamlet]

and thats what sells his brand to get the access, but if you step on the toes of a Trillion $ Co. I think they could just pick someone else

[lofty pivot]

it's more it's literally never been his thing to do the 'man on the street computex' type style stuff

he doesn't really do gaming journalism. He just shows off things he thinks is neat and is using and overviews/reviews them

[modest hamlet]

Never said he should change what style he does. Big Hardware vendors have hotel rooms that you can control the filming and or restaurants bought out for the day

he has done that type

[lofty pivot]

the irony of all of this is mkbhd is coming out of a recent thing where random people called him out for being too harsh on a recent review lol

he's always gone over the pros and cons of what he thinks of devices, apple or not apple. Just never the 'investigative journalism' type of stuff that the other crowd might prefer from gamers nexus

[modest hamlet]

he wasn't tho and thats even funnier that he don't call out Apple on their bs but when he gets an Interview with Timmy and he doesn't want to play soft ball on funny interweb meme questions IDK its like they take him seriously and just pass on the softball/hardball Q.

[lofty pivot]

he does in the context of reviews and such. Like he mocked apple for the whole braveness line before and recently he said the ipad pro refresh seems like it doesn't do anything

this idea that he never calls out apple is a bit silly and unfounded. He just doesn't do it out of context of the videos he does

[modest hamlet]

Im glad he pointed out Fixcars and the AI crap hardware but not to anyones face cause he knows that he will be replaced and thats really the worst part of the whole thing

[lofty pivot]

realistically there's a level of pushback you have to figure out as an interview too. I remember talking to a fellow content creator in the WoW space who had a chance to interview a top level blizzard dev for WoW

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

[lofty pivot]

He's literally a lawyer as his day job and as much as he wants to grill the person, he also has to manage a line of 'okay if I ask this question they won't answer and the interview might be done'

[reef patrol]

Lawyer? Who?

[lofty pivot]

countdown to classic

[modest hamlet]

sure and thats where being a person on line that has the ability to talk to CEOs of Trillion $ Co. and a Person that has the ability to get talented Q. writers comes in. Did he say that Apple didn't have any say in the video(s) in question?

sry not your friend to be clear

[lofty pivot]

He didn't say but the interview wasn't even really an interview is the thing

it was literally just a super quick sit down add-on to the actual video where he asked a few really minor questions and that was it

[modest hamlet]

if its not said that is for a reason its because its a fluff piece cause of Computext (in theory)

[lofty pivot]

nah the video had nothing to do with the topic

as in the whole apple repairability etc stuff

the thing is if you watch only louis rossmans video you might think mkbhd had a whole video discussing apples repairability and durability

but in reality that wasn't at all what the video was about and the actual video was mostly nothing to do with that in the slightest

[modest hamlet]

Unless you have accrual first hand knowledge I don't think you can say that with certainty. If you know behind the scene stuff then ok but

[lofty pivot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8reaJG7z-is

no i mean you can check the video here

[modest hamlet]

right ok then its a critique on the

[lofty pivot]

he literally just dropped it because he had a bunch of clips leftover and people requested it

[modest hamlet]

yeah I had to stop mid way cause it was just floof no reason to watch it

[lofty pivot]

if you'll watch mkbhd's video you'll notice the part rossman is angry is literally like not 90% of the video until the tiny end portion

it's why it comes off weird because if you watch rossman's video is seems like the interview was the focus and apple ad was the main focus - reality is the video is so far from what that is

[modest hamlet]

i get you are upset but I think Louis is taking Mr. HD to task like hey you got the power why not use it for good

[lofty pivot]

what? I'm not upset. I thought you were asking about it

again - I agree with rossmans take, disagree with his presentation of it, but accept that it's rossmans thing to rant

I don't dislike either youtuber

I've been watching rossman since early on when he just did the shop rants while repairing laptops

[modest hamlet]

02:15 of talking about this with at least 3 people and you aint mad?

[reef patrol]

Rossman is a ranter. That's always been his thing 😄

[lofty pivot]

yeah, you'll find i chat a lot randomly here

i'm quite active on discord. Just because i discuss things doesn't mean I'm angry

[reef patrol]

And he obviously has an agenda of his own with his rants - to promote the things he wants to see more of or change

[steep creek]

yeah he’s more on the ranter side but i find it entertaining sometimes

[lofty pivot]

yeah exactly. Entertaining rants has always been his thing lol

[modest hamlet]

yeah right to repair is awesome but still 2 and a quarter hrs of talking on what? IDG

ok

[lofty pivot]

well I'm also watching VCT pacific at the same time with discord on side monitor. You'll find a lot of people chat on discord while doing other things

[modest hamlet]

I rant too...... 😅

I mean I think if anyone Mr. HD has if not power, money

[lofty pivot]

yeah he's a big car guy

[modest hamlet]

2024 992 Turbo S

yeah and he is getting into sports cars. I watched the vid

IDK how many people drink coffee here nor how many know how to maintain a coffee maker but I found this informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl7kuC1IQ-g&t=1446s

[lyric hatch]

should probably do this but too lazy and buy coffee instead

[modest hamlet]

for me its my really old travel coffee mug Im pretty sure it will give me cancer...I got that + BPA BAYBEEEE

[fickle ore]

U need this + espresso machine

Been thinking to buy this https://www.sageappliances.com/fi/fi/products/espresso/bes878.html

[modest hamlet]

It comes down to how much your time is worth I guess. Avg 26 US cents for drip I mean 30 for the really good stuff

IDK about that glass carafe easy drink burnt coffee that way. ^that coffee guy suggests a Stainless Steel Thermos type carafe mine keeps coffee hot for like I wanna say 18 hrs? but the flavor goes after that

although I do need to clean my carafe.....

[fickle ore]

Huh you jsut make it and turn it off

then the other button keeps it warm but cooler

[modest hamlet]

or bypass a heating element that can brake and an extra button to push. I mean it looks cool for sure kinda old Mr Coffee for the new age

[halcyon moss]

Surprisingly expensive these devices

[fickle ore]

yeah these are like 150€ and way overpriced imho, you can get regular filter coffee machine for like 20-50€

We have one bc the gf wanted Moccamaster

[modest hamlet]

any complaints about the Moccanmaster?

[fickle ore]

Well yea price for me personally, but everyone in the nordics drinks filter coffee so it's a very cheap way to get daily coffee

then we store it in these inner glass outer steel thermal containers if we go outside

For taste I prefer espresso machine, but filter coffee has the unique nostalgic taste of gas station burnt coffee which you sometimes crave

• it's easy to make coffee for whole family bc u can make 10-12 cups at once

[modest hamlet]

I got this one its good but you have to pour over the sink cause it drippy

[fickle ore]

Ah yeah that's the usual issue with cheaper brands

[hasty thunder]

get a usual coffee machine, seriously

[woven laurel]

who wants to die and pinged the mods

[modest hamlet]

I was at a place and I wanted to patronize by getting something and I needed one

did I?? I hope not

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

Any final words?
jk jk

[modest hamlet]

You say cheaper but it cost what it cost

Did I do something wrong? what happen?

[reef patrol]

Not to my knowledge. Just having a bit of fun 😄

[woven laurel]

hahaha it was an old ping from 02:00 nighttime

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-dodge-gif-24234463

[woven laurel]

probably nyumi making jokes about the poles again

ooh no it was a guy spamming flashy gifs

[modest hamlet]

you gotta take voting seriously

[hasty thunder]

that guy even DM'd me why he got muted for 24h

[analog sinew]

why you lol

[hasty thunder]

that's what I'm asking myself too. I have nothing to do with it

[lyric hatch]

idk part of me grabbing a coffee at my usual spot is part of the morning ritual, they know who I am, know what I order by the time I go to pay it's usually already good to go

plus usually they're roasting beans in this big thing

[balmy vector]

I could smell it from here

[mild dome]

On this trip I'm Czech has made me miss good coffee

[raw zephyr]

@old marlin check DMs

[halcyon moss]

Stop trying to moderate :p

[hasty thunder]

i didn't even do anything

[modest hamlet]

Filter is the way you use a mesh or paper? I used to do pour over a mesh for years but I broke down and am doing paper. Rinsing paper filters before you use it sounds pretentious but makes a difference.

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/Ieq5sNEoc1E

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

I'll take my superior battery life any day.

Monitors are not books or paper.

[wheat plume]

The worst part is, I prefer Google's Material You design better in Light theme, because in Dark Theme, it has this ugly background tint to it you CANT DISABLE

its so gross having a wallpaper with slightly yellow or orange tones in it and having all the Material You compliant apps on your phone have a gross vomit colored background to them

I have to pick a wallpaper that has the right colors in it so the apps look decent

but in light model, the apps dont have that tint, so I can pick any color I want

Why are Google so afraid of the good ol' AMOLED black background color?!

[modest hamlet]

That sounds like a pain in the keister. Are they being 'lazy' by using a lighter "Night Light" mode instead of a pure dark mode?

[reef patrol]

That's the challenge with dark mode. If it isn't pure black, then you're still lighting up pixels and using more power.

But being limited to pure black is a design limitation that not everyone wants.

Imo it should be possible to do a basic AMOLED black variant of any dark theme and just offer all three.

I don't expect to be wow'ed by every every website I visit. It's perfectly okay to be adequate and functional.

[distant tapir]

I use light mode on my PC. But before you call me a psycho I run my display on low brightness. It looks bad on high brightness.

[empty wren]

You are correct mansen but the difference between dark grey and pitch black is not so significant. Now if someone stays on the same site or watches that insignificant percenr grows exponentially

[empty wren]

I just made my accent color white/grey

[reef patrol]

That's nice to know. I thought it was noticeable enough to be a point of argument for anything on a battery

[empty wren]

If you are scrolling nope

Or jumping through apps the percent is small

[reef patrol]

I use dark/AMOLED on anything I can get away with on my phone to minimize battery use, not because I prefer dark over white

[empty wren]

https://www.xda-developers.com/amoled-black-vs-gray-dark-mode/

Not a fan of this so much these days but this a good read

[empty wren]

Same same, I gotta start working on themeing app again, I like to reverse engineer app styles to have a black overall background. I do like the look though that ultra contrast looks so pleasing. Maybe not at night but I dim brightness a bit then.

[modest hamlet]

I think for the contrast in the day light Dark mode just makes it easier to see what is what.

[empty wren]

I do not find that my eyes get strained personally, but I have had people complain about my brightness being too low for them.

But to be fair higher contrast does in this case mean overall lowered brightness in a manner

[gilded fractal]

are the Wooting 5 Dye-sub PBT Magnetic wave keycaps, Compatable with the 60he?

[modest hamlet]

which colorway?

[wheat plume]

the difference is massive on Google apps and any other third party apps that obey material you themeing

the dark theme always has the background tinted with the accent color
and it always looks hideous in most colors

[empty wren]

I know what you mean, you could stick to white 🤷‍♂️

[wheat plume]

or AMOLED Black

[wheat plume]

which I love, cause OLED and battery savings cause the black part is turned off

[empty wren]

All of them are dark grey I thought?

Or do you have root privileges?

[wheat plume]

stock android

no magisk / shizuku

[empty wren]

So they are dark grey...

[wheat plume]

no

the background color gets tinted by the accent color

[empty wren]

Okay....

[wheat plume]

and depending on the accent color, it looks awful

[empty wren]

You already mentioned that

[wheat plume]

see

tinted yellow due to my wallpaper being mostly yellow

[empty wren]

Yeah looks like dark grey with. Yellow tint

[wheat plume]

yep, I wish it was just black

[gilded fractal]

Magnetic wave keycaps

[wheat plume]

in some third party apps you can use pitch black, but not Google ones

[empty wren]

Developer choice

[modest hamlet]

Gotcha, check the website for the colorway you want.

[gilded fractal]

Wooting 5 Dye-sub PBT Magnetic wave keycaps is the one im looking at

[modest hamlet]

ok scroll down and look at the specs

[empty wren]

These days can really only theme apps externally, Samsung can pass 3rd party themes through without root

[gilded fractal]

doesn't say which keyboard is compatable

[modest hamlet]

do a read through one more time youll get it

[wheat plume]

this app does it better cause you can choose AMOLED black or tint

[gilded fractal]

The Take Control colors are iconic to the Wooting 60HE keyboard... xDD

[wheat plume]

the tint is so ugly in most colors...

[modest hamlet]

Are you able to tap the three dots to change the mix of the wallpapaer pallet?

[wheat plume]

I can change the color theme yeah

[modest hamlet]

Or I think you could swipe through and find better

try other colors?

[wheat plume]

I usually have a monochrome grey wallpaper and use the black and white theme

which makes the app baclground for material you apps a dark grey

[modest hamlet]

are you able to tap "other colors?"

[modest hamlet]

they fix this in 14 btw.

[wheat plume]

This is 14 xd

Lets hope 15 lets you choose AMOLED black background

[modest hamlet]

ah are there any colors that you would consider with the whipe through?

[wheat plume]

I like the yellow as an accent color in my previous screenshots, but I dont want it to tint the background color too :/

worst theme choice google made

[modest hamlet]

yeah I have like 20 or so diff color combi on my wipe through

[gilded fractal]

What phones do you guys use?

[modest hamlet]

mine was overpriced android

[wheat plume]

Samsung Galaxy Pro Ultra Max?

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/vomit-ew-no-eww-gross-gif-12932403

[wheat plume]

XD

OH YIKES
that level of overpriced...

[modest hamlet]

I mean its all right....

[wheat plume]

and Sony wonder why their phone business aint popping off

They have awesome DACs in their phones, headphone jacks still, SD card support, dual SIM card trays

BUT TWO YEARS OF ANDROID UPDATES is a damn joke for how expensive the phone is

[hasty thunder]

tbf, the Samsung Galaxy Ultra phones are pricy, but given the stuff that's in it the price seems fair compared to what Apple charges you for outdated hardware

[wheat plume]

True, and they offer like 6 years of Android upgrades too

[hasty thunder]

and 7 years of security updates

[wheat plume]

Yep

[modest hamlet]

I have an old LG v20 and the sound from that jack is better then the Sony

[empty wren]

Better tuning perhaps

[wheat plume]

yeah for sure

[hasty thunder]

the pen's also mighty as fuck

[modest hamlet]

quad DAC

[modest hamlet]

in general and on the phone

[hasty thunder]

who can claim to mark single words and letters on discords mobile client i.e.?

or get website previews when hovering over a link?

[wheat plume]

you sure you arent Irish? XDDD

ive never seen anyone other than the Irish use "mighty" to mean cool or awesome xd

[analog sinew]

mighty strange assumption

[wheat plume]

thats the typical usecase for it xd

[hasty thunder]

what else shall i say? powerful? packed?

[wheat plume]

:')

[modest hamlet]

are we still talking about pens here?

[wheat plume]

pens yes, they are great

[hasty thunder]

loaded to the brim with functions no one else has?

the only issue i have with the Ultra phones is the battery... it deteriorates like crazy

[modest hamlet]

No I wanted a Note for a long time but in the demo it just felt like a little too much IDK too powerfull I guess

[hasty thunder]

because it is

i don't use every function of it either

but the remote control for music i.e. is really nice

as well as the drawing capabilities

[empty wren]

What app even is that?

[wheat plume]

Obtainium :D @empty wren

[modest hamlet]

Yeah I don't doubt its just I still carry a pen and paper so kinda not needed

[wheat plume]

I use it to manage app updates for apps I get from outside the Play Store

instead of needing to always monitor Github releases for a new app update, this app tells me instead and pulls the update down for me too

[hasty thunder]

the note function is probably the greatest of all

[empty wren]

Oh alright

[modest hamlet]

right note taking is overall great, but for me Id rather not have my data elseware

[hasty thunder]

i'm using it almost every single day

[modest hamlet]

yeah Im just very skeptical about data privacy and how that is interpreted as I am over here and you have that cool thing whats it called?

https://tenor.com/view/teutel-gpdr-unsubscribe-valued-customer-teutel-gpdr-unsubscribe-valued-customer-gif-12005823

[hasty thunder]

i've never ever got any unnecessary email from Samsung

and you can turn the online synchro off for the notes

entirely

[modest hamlet]

no I lknow that was just the best gif

but in Merica weelll its a diffrent story

[hasty thunder]

i get your point, but i've never caught any of my Note/Ultra phones sending my notes to Samsung since turning off synchronization

the only stuff it ever sends to Samsung are crash reports and even for that i have to agree

[modest hamlet]

Yeah IDK if I have what I think is a really great Idea Id rather air gap it or what ever

[hasty thunder]

great ideas usually tend to stick in my head

[modest hamlet]

lucky

I surprise my self sometimes. Looking back

Every body see the SLS printer that they are trying to get to a 3k price?

[hasty thunder]

lol

printers are in general my nemesis

[modest hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGvAFdtfDY&t=18s

[hasty thunder]

i have an old MF-250 something and does its job just fine

well, its main job is to collect dust till i need to print something, but it does both things surprisingly well

[modest hamlet]

is that an FDM printer? there are a lot of different types out there

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/-okKv_a2kdA

https://youtu.be/7z-82Hi5dtc

[dawn dove]

i need small help

i just get my wooting but this one is typing w/o my permission 😄

[empty wren]

#1019755933959733258

[woven laurel]

is your plan to become the nr1 wooting streamer? sander is getting come competition xdd

[analog sinew]

well

it seems to work

[hasty thunder]

hardly a competition for him

[exotic plinth]

Sander is meme guy.

[hasty thunder]

oof

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/P675aYfce4M

The only thing I learned about this video is that the rollercoasters are very unreliable and just get stuck like 9/10 times on the track 😅

[true quest]

any tech bag users? what is good in the market

[halcyon moss]

Tech bag? What's that

[true quest]

bag for storing and transporting tech

book bag except tech bro oriented

[halcyon moss]

Ah.. Never had the need for one. Just a laptop bag did just fine for me

[empty wren]

Can you just not settle on a sling?

[true quest]

need to fit some more that just a laptop and not have all that weight on a single shoulder

[halcyon moss]

I hated my slingbag

Always shoulder pain

[empty wren]

Get a hiking backpack🤓

[empty wren]

Inb4 had 80kg weights in bag

[halcyon moss]

Laptop, bottle of water, charger..

[true quest]

carrying your own body weight on your shoulder everyday sounds insane

[empty wren]

That seems like nothing

Gaming laptop?

[halcyon moss]

Nah, just annoying

[empty wren]

Why not carry it in your hand

Rode to work with a sling and laptop in one arm

[halcyon moss]

Or just a normal backpak

[empty wren]

Okay then

[true quest]

much better option for extended use

[empty wren]

Overpriced ltt backpack that has no warranty on it

Probably has higher value now with the workplace misconduct

[true quest]

i was considering it, but the neck piece seems annoying

[empty wren]

Just get a typical backpack and check dimensions I guess

And see if it has enough of what you want

[true quest]

if it wasn't for that i would have bought it

[empty wren]

I see

[halcyon moss]

I got this one a long time ago.. Still is fine

[true quest]

i use an osprey as an everyday outside carry lol

[empty wren]

I had something like this in highschool but the strap got worn out on the clips

[true quest]

need something more study capable

[empty wren]

Tactical laptop belt

What more could you ask for batman

[digital cliff]

I recently bought the doughnut macaroon, it's cute and has like a laptop compartment, a water bottle thingy on the inside and whatnot

comes in all the colors you can think of and then some

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

ooo mega cute :D

[fickle ore]

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-meta-ar-holographic-glasses-prototype-2024-6

in zuck we trust

[fair gull]

gg now my pc crashes when i start obs....

caused by the amd driver

god i love amd gpus

[hasty thunder]

version?

24.6.1?

because that driver caused me some trouble today too

first didn't recognize my 2nd monitor, then said it wasn't installed, then requested a reboot

like god damn it

[fair gull]

17.4.smth

cause the newer ones have even more issues

i spend like 2 days trying to find a usable driver to begin with

[hasty thunder]

the most stable version i had was 24.2.1

everything after was... eh...

[fair gull]

cant wait for my new parts to deliver in roughly 10days

[hasty thunder]

still waiting for the 5k series before pulling the trigger

hope they don't launch at ridiculous prices this time

[fair gull]

well i dont have 6 months of patience left with this shite as amd driver bs

[hasty thunder]

and i'm not going to waste 1.2k for something that's outdated in half a year

[fair gull]

arent 4090s like 1.9k minimum

[hasty thunder]

who in his right mind buys a 4090 with the demands i have?

[warm pebble]

Is there any performance differences with wooting clones (pcbs that use magnetic switches)?

[hasty thunder]

i don't render shit with my GPU all day long

[hasty thunder]

think again. Why would they clone the queen of gaming keyboards if they could do better?

[warm pebble]

I’m sure wooting has better quality but I’m just asking purely latency and performance

I just ordered a 60he+ but I was just curious

[hasty thunder]

honestly? No, there isn't a single HE board out yet that comes close to the latency the 60HE has

[warm pebble]

Okay thanks

[hasty thunder]

unless you're going to wait for the 80HE, because that one will definitely beat the 60HE in terms of latency and performance

[fair gull]

i wouldnt be surprised if all you gain if like 5% fps but the price increase is like 20%

[hasty thunder]

in that case i'll just got with a 4080s, i mean with the launch of the 5k series these things will drop in price like crazy

[fair gull]

i dont think theyll drop much

[lyric hatch]

Me want 👀

Cheese grater

[hasty thunder]

the biggest cheese graters are the apple thingies

[lyric hatch]

I want small cheese grater it's only 15.6L

[umbral heron]

Cheddar weighs about 14kg/L, so... about 220kg of cheese

[sudden imp]

Mcase m2!!!

[little silo]

get Formd T1 instead

[lyric hatch]

Na this one fits any GPU and I can't get FE cards where I live

[little silo]

Wow, that sucks

[scenic thunder]

Gonna do the same once the more offical launch happens for the 5xxx series. The 4080 feels like one of the best future proofing cards for 1440p 144hz for a few years at least.

They go on pretty okay sales already if you keep an eye out

Missed out on a 4080 super that was on for 999 cad last month and was big sad lol

[unkempt lake]

Didnt you say you were using some old piece of crap?

I think thats more the issue xd

Considering you're not even on 24 series of drivers

And you're on 17

It's prob some pre 2017 gpu thats just shit (considering that's the latest year of driver you got)

I mean amd's gpus were garbo tier back then

And unstable

Only got good with rdna2/3

[fair gull]

rx570

oh my fudging god.... now this dumb ass software hogs hotkeys even when i disabled them... telling me they are disabled

what is this trash

[hasty thunder]

well, that explains a lot of things...

even a 5600 XT is more powerful than this thing

i mean heck, you can get away with a 2070 super if you want to

[fair gull]

im aware its not powerful but the software not even working right is already horrible

its just a spare since my 2080ti died a little too early before i wanted to build a new pc

[whole axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B9G47R

Should I do the GRE to save some money?

[snow moon]

Kinda anti-tech talk, but are there any cars being made without all this computer nonsense inside? Seems like every car needs the car mechanic's computer and so on. Feels like programmed obsolesence

[reef patrol]

Doubt it. Safety standards and all.

[marsh glade]

Indeed, many of the standards required by the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) necessitate increasing amounts of "tech" including regulations that have passed which will mandate things like backup cameras, lane assist, in the near future

[steep creek]

i know of cars with “less tech” than others but they all have some to my knowledge

[marsh glade]

And if America requires it, then manufactures will generally implement them across their lineups globally to reduce complexity

[steep creek]

tho i genuinely wonder if more car manufacturers will follow the subscription model and lock certain features behind it, like heated seats, heated steering wheel etc

and keep said features behind the subscription as long as they’re not mandated by law in the europe for example lol

[modest hamlet]

I really want the Thailand exclusive Toyota Hilux Champ. Never gonna get it though

inexpensive, efficient (could be more tho), "low tech" how low IDK, modular, not complex, easy to fix

[rough patrol]

I love the little japanese trucks

[reef patrol]

Yeah... We need more of those tiny japanese utility vehicles for sure.

[old marlin]

so it basically is a hilux with the features of european modular van stuff

[reef patrol]

#KeiTruckFTW

[old marlin]

absolutely not a kei truck

[reef patrol]

Noone claimed the Hilux to be tiny 😄

[old marlin]

the hilux champ is a little japanese truck still

if you look at US trucks for comparison it is tiny

[reef patrol]

I don't know what kind of American fuelhead trucks you have where you are, but that Hilux is perfectly average in these parts 😄

Just your run of the mill pickup

[rough patrol]

Us trucks are so over the top

[modest hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-anime-jasons-truck-gif-20194787

avg Toyota truck

the "best selling" Merican Truck is an F 150 thems a biggen

[old marlin]

the regular hilux is already quite a bit smalelr in cimparison to the tacoma

which is not even the largest one toyota sells to regular people un the US

and the tacoma is about the size of an F150, which is basically the default truck there

[reef patrol]

Pickups here are two seaters, with a flatbed. And that's that 😄

[old marlin]

pickups here are not really a thing, what they use here is definetley an inspiration for the hilux champ tho

something like this

also available as dual cab variants and whatever you can imagine in the rear

[modest hamlet]

The reason the US cant get "smaller" trucks is very dumb so thats why SUVs are every where. SUVs and the like are considered to the EPA (or something idk rules) to be "light Trucks"

I really want a Kei truck tho they are neat but a pain to work on

[old marlin]

they absolutely can get smaller trucks

ford sells 2 sizes smaller than an f150

the maverick does a lot of what the hilux champ does lol

[reef patrol]

It's such a shame that Denmark is extrutiably expensive to buy or import a car into. Cause I'd get a Keitruck flatbed in a heartbeat. Just the right size to fit anywhere 😄

[marsh glade]

What was that truck that Top Gear tried their best to destroy and just... couldn't

[old marlin]

a regular hilux

iirc

[marsh glade]

Yea you're right
https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/The_Indestructible_Hilux

[modest hamlet]

I miss mine

it got like 16 or so MPG iirc but you could go anywhere just not in the fast lane on the highway

To by cars from outside of the US they need to be 25 years or older (unless you are Very rich) but thats fine on buying JPN cars cause they have to take such good care of them by law.

[modest hamlet]

Yeah but thats a VW or some French thing. Me no want I want

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-puppet-yoda-losing-it-about-to-lose-it-screaming-gif-12356329979571298637

[tawny hemlock]

vroum

[uneven sandal]

this looks like a crossover of FJ40 , Prado, Hilux and Mahindra Scorpio

[modest hamlet]

yes

[wheat plume]

Ayoo
HarmonyOS is now totally independent

https://www.gizchina.com/2024/06/22/huawei-launches-pure-harmonyos-next-without-android-code-and-apps/

[steep creek]

might be remembering wrong but isnt this what the initially claimed harmony os to be? totally independent of android

[wheat plume]

Yep
Xd

[steep creek]

ok lol so ill believe it when i see it

[reef patrol]

Suddenly Chrome has be marking any text like it's a damn text editor. I wonder if I accidentally hit some obscure shortcut, or if Google are smoking that silverback manilla weed again.

[steep creek]

probably the insert key

[halcyon moss]

Spyware can be fully integrated now

[wheat plume]

I've activated the insert key way too many times by accident .-.

[reef patrol]

Unfortunately not a case of the Inserts

[wheat plume]

I actually believe them this time
They've had years to work on custom kernels and shit

And their push to remove themselves from Google code is real

[halcyon moss]

Why would you want this

[wheat plume]

Hmmm?
They are banned from working / using code from American companies

[smoky frigate]

my opinion on it depends on whether it'll be open source or not

[crimson wigeon]

Caret browsing, F7 is the usual browser shortcut to toggle it

[wheat plume]

Does Huawei have anything that's open source?

[steep creek]

i mean im not anti huawei, my trust towards them is just low after they've already lied once. but besides that i guess itll be cool if they manage

[wheat plume]

Which lie? Xd

[steep creek]

this

[wheat plume]

Ah yes

They've had the time since then to actually make it happen
So I don't doubt it this time

[halcyon moss]

Inbefore it's just android

[steep creek]

like with rabbit "os" but in reality its just an apk lol

will be nice to see a competitor to android and ios though if its real

[halcyon moss]

Sure. But not from china

[wheat plume]

Or us

[steep creek]

i can understand why you say that, but i wonder if most consumers care about that

[wheat plume]

Most US customers do

[halcyon moss]

Just wait till shit in Taiwan happens

[empty wren]

Why worry about it if you do not live in chinq

One's own domestic nation can do 100x far worse to them having information

[halcyon moss]

Ppl who I communicate with might have this os.

[empty wren]

I mean okay...

[mint otter]

Hi guys, i have a 60 he which i use for gaming and a g915 for everyday use but it has just packed up. Could i get some recommendations for a decent WIRELESS keyboard, i do have the 80 he on pre pre-order but after something thats wireless and not 60%

[old marlin]

wireless keyboards are kinda stupid outside like couch setups

[hasty thunder]

agree

[little silo]

What's the best RAM speed for a 7800X3D?

[reef patrol]

ALL of it

[ashen spindle]

6000

[little silo]

Thanks to you both lol

[misty matrix]

6k, timings as low as possible

[whole axle]

6000 cl30 for rn

Unless it’s better on the 9000 ones

[unkempt lake]

6k cl30

No point in anything more expensive

Timings wise... it's plenty

You can do cl28 or 26 by tightening manually

[supple nest]

lol this is going to be so horrible

[unkempt lake]

https://youtu.be/MPQ-UvavT8Q?si=ZR56j4vftITQLs8U

[reef patrol]

Motherfucker.

Finally found the cause

[fair gull]

???

[reef patrol]

#🔌│tech message

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah caret browsing as I said, guess I should have pinged

[reef patrol]

I have no idea what "caret browsing" is 😄

Well I guess now I do

I guess my cat accidentally hit F7 at some point, and Chrome provides zero visual indication that this is enabled.

[fair gull]

caret is the name for the cursor

in text

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

Hmm by default f7 opens a windows needing you to confirm if you want to activate it

[fair gull]

caret is also the name of this symbol ^

and in maths the same symbol is called hat operator i believe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_notation

[old marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-hat-cowboy-hunt-kookaburra-gif-20085717

[umbral heron]

[fair gull]

ye muricans pronounce it the same

[whole axle]

Looks good

Air cooler still might be the move tho

Good price tho

[fierce terrace]

holy shit RTX 4090 suprim liquid x for 1930€

looks like a good deal ngl

[reef patrol]

[fierce terrace]

might even get that instead 5090

[whole axle]

The 4090 matrix looks the best imo

Not for $3000 but still looks so cool

[shrewd cipher]

5090 may be next for me, depending on price/performance

[fierce terrace]

30% of asus tax

[whole axle]

Yessir

If only money wasn’t a problem

[shrewd cipher]

Just print some more, its ez

Just spend 180€ on fans xD

Me new PC is gonna be a noisy one

[fierce terrace]

some good ones?

[shrewd cipher]

NF-14A industrial with 3000 RPM

Plenty of static pressure and air output

[fierce terrace]

holy shit what will you be cooling with those

[shrewd cipher]

2 full copper 420 rads

And these are gonna be in the main chamber; Iceberg Thermal IceGALE Xtra 140x140x25mm 500-2500 U/miin

[ashen spindle]

you sure your pc will be noisy and not just quiet because half of them wont need to run? xD

[shrewd cipher]

The iceberg fans sound like slapping the air on low rpm

But on my last and current build the PSU fan never came on, due to external cooling performance xD

Same for the chipset fan on the MoBo, never heard that boy running

Just a bunch of 200mm Noctua fans force feeding the case with air

[shrewd cipher]

Currently running 4.6Ghz all core on 2 200x200x60mm rads in combo with a water cooled rtx 3090. Max water temp in the res was arround 45°C

The 5950x peaked at arround 250W during that test and hit a max temp of 80°C (limit was set to 90°C)

[ashen spindle]

ah okay yeah if yo go for such a cpu and not 800x3d for example you can get a lot more heat xD

[shrewd cipher]

Yeah, im aiming for the big guns, hope they releas a good 9950x3d

[ashen spindle]

well there is the hope its dual vcache if they fixed the lowering of max clocks

[shrewd cipher]

Imma keep an close look on the benchmarks, and if i like what i see, im going in ^^

[whole axle]

Will they actually be fixed tho 😭

[shrewd cipher]

Fixed?

[fierce terrace]

ok wheres that nh-d15 gen 2 we were promised for june?

its july already...

[whole axle]

Yeah like how the 7800x3d is somehow better than the 7950x3d

[ashen spindle]

I mean that's not quite the case and a bit more complicated

[shrewd cipher]

Oh, thats what ya mean.. Probably has to do with temps and the whole setup. Also iirc not all the 7950 cache is x3D

[umbral heron]

Nope, 7800x3d has 512k/8/96 cache, 7950x3d 1/16/128, so it's not the cache issue

[ashen spindle]

7950x3d has one vcache die one without

So that can cause issues for some apps

[shrewd cipher]

Thats what i meant

[umbral heron]

Ahhh, ok then

[fierce terrace]

https://youtu.be/hG1T1FwovXM "better" 😂👌

[whole axle]

Cuz technically the 7950x3d should’ve been better no?

[ashen spindle]

it depends

[shrewd cipher]

There are a lot of factors

[whole axle]

More cores = more performance

[shrewd cipher]

Not for games

[whole axle]

Which I never understood

What’s the point of getting anything other than the 7800x3d then lol

[old marlin]

almost as if there are usecases other than games

[shrewd cipher]

Raw rendering power

[whole axle]

Not for me lol

[ashen spindle]

higher clocks on the non vcache die means you could have csgo for example on that ccd and it performed better

not every game benefits from more cache

[umbral heron]

You can set core affinity and it'll behave better in games too

[whole axle]

Hmm interesting

[shrewd cipher]

Only game that comes to my mind, which benefits more cores, is BeamNG, or games like it.

[ashen spindle]

cp2077 is scaling well

but even then there are just limits to how wide you can go with your logic

[shrewd cipher]

in general one could say the R9 X950 is more of an workstation CPU

[ashen spindle]

yeah for now

[shrewd cipher]

X800 and X900 are easier to cool and may get higher overclocks because of it (depending on the silicone lottery)

[latent mural]

delete linux 🤝

[ionic imp]

no.

why do you care about what other people do with their time?

[latent mural]

i dont, if you choose to interpret my distaste for how non friendly it is as opposed to windows, then you do yo

[ionic imp]

no no no

that's not how it went down

[crimson wigeon]

Rather deal with some user-unfriendliness than the outright hostility Windows shows its users

[tender scarab]

Don't forget to negatively offset your ryzen to go back at 1.35v at idle when your mobo has been made by some big brand that just inputed random numbers

[ionic imp]

what

[latent mural]

thats fine on a per indiviual level, everyone has different 'taste' my frustration is the lack of direction

its a very tight jungle

[ashen spindle]

Dont forget to not just randomly put in power numbers from random discord posts without more info

[ionic imp]

Hey, actually there is a way forward, check out CachyOS, the community is nice and the OS is arch based, give it a looker. i learned plenty, i used to rock Archlinux myself and manjaro before that.

[latent mural]

i think its easier to remain with normal arch, thats where the most documentation exist, no need to abstract it by using something "arch based" as it generally just leads to pain in the long run

[ionic imp]

Give the Repo a look, you might be positively supprised.

[shrewd cipher]

Yee, if overclocking/undervolting just was this easy
Took me hours and days to get mine set up and stress testing xD

[latent mural]

i will not, whatever is offered on a "arch based" distro can just be aquired by using normal arch, i dont need further abstraction

[old marlin]

Situation:
the image has been compressed 14 times

"14? ridiculous! we need to develop one universal compression standard that covers it once"

Situation:
the image has been compressed 15 times

[ionic imp]

good, now that you've set the baseline of what you're willing to do and explore, i suppose everything make sense.

good day

[fierce terrace]

[latent mural]

yeah sorry that im sticking to the fundamentals, arch based =/= arch linux

[ionic imp]

don't be sorry.

[ashen spindle]

cant be compressed if its directly coped from the website lol

[loud hemlock]

Antergos my beloved

[old marlin]

original image could have already been compressed

[latent mural]

reading the "features" of this cachyos, it's just arch+preinstalled bloat that i wouldnt install myself, my reason for using arch is the freedom to configure *most things to what you desire

maybe i've just been using linux long enough to not bother with distrohopping and just using what works

[umbral heron]

From here on out we only allow for the memes to be uploaded in RAW image format, without any compression

[loud hemlock]

I stopped hopping when I found arch

[old marlin]

I am fine with them being compressed once, when they start getting recompressed I am not anymore

now post it on twitter, copy it from there into whatsapp or whatever

[ionic imp]

cool. did you know you can uninstall things you dont want to or just use the kernels on your arch based system? or just just the repo for precompiled packages instead of the Chaotic aur. with the benifit of preset compile flags n stuff

[old marlin]

and then repost it

[umbral heron]

[loud hemlock]

Make sure to screenshot it and crop it poorly

[latent mural]

yeah, for anyone willing to put in some additional effort it's probably the best option out there

[latent mural]

dont worry g, i used gentoo for a few years