any evidence to suggest this?
#🔌│tech
lyric hatch
old marlin
any evidence to suggest this?
wait
The FCC ID must be on the product. It can be a label, etched in on the exterior of the product, or be capable of being electronically displayed, but it must be visible and in a font that is reasonably visible without magnification.
it is not visible on the outside of the product
on any of their mice
the only ones that had an fcc label at all had it on the inside on top of the battery
which requried you to remove the feet and unscrew the mouse
which is not easily accessible
lyric hatch
its a prototype 
old marlin
the final ones looked just like that
the lab they originally worked with also isn't allowed to do fcc registrations anymore
and none of their mice would actually be compliant
due to exposed pins
lol
lyric hatch
the lab they originally worked with also isn't allowed to do fcc registrations a...
https://fccid.io/Test-Firm/Waltek-Testing-Group-Shenzhen-Co-Ltd pretty sure they just changed their name as they are still in the list as Waltek-Services
old marlin
just makes it funnier
they didn't even change the name 
on the reports that is
yea the one linked in their report is not an accredited firm
even for the maya
which is their most recent one that had it done
empty wren
Totally fair, back then it was not so mature especially for work. Tramming the bed I think probably is the biggest sticking point and bambu labs has piezoelectric sensors under the bed.
lyric hatch
yea the one linked in their report is not an accredited firm
if you lose your accreditation after testing a product does that negate the testing you did while accredited?
old marlin
if you lose your accreditation after testing a product does that negate the test...
I mean the reports are obviously not compliant
from how I understand it, the certifications would still be valid
but they are noncompliant to begin with
hollow nimbus
Btw I still love the keyboard but it just has this weird unreliable shift key issue
ashen spindle
Post in #1019755933959733258 so someone can help you fix it
lyric hatch
does the exposed pins actually make it non-compliant?
I guess I never noticed my pulsar mouse doesn't actually have exposed pins even though it has an open bottom
old marlin
does the exposed pins actually make it non-compliant?
for the EU market it would
and the importers/vendors are the ones held liable
rough osprey
sad
vagrant pagoda
How can you buy an Arduino then?
umbral heron
Usually 20 packs of cigarettes are enough for the guy from customs for a contraband 
old marlin
How can you buy an Arduino then?
different regulations
vagrant pagoda
Aren't they both computer accessories?
old marlin
no
woven laurel
Usually 20 packs of cigarettes are enough for the guy from customs for a contrab...
doesnt the average pole have 10 packs regardless in their fake adidas bag?
umbral heron
Of course, but you won't bribe gift a customs officer money
We are very sentimental, for us it's not about the money, but about the thought
||So thought about 0.7L vodka works too ||
sharp badger
The N9 was ok or nvm i had the Lumia 800
sudden imp
does the exposed pins actually make it non-compliant?
Huh that’s interesting
trim crane
why does windows tell me for HEVC to purchase a god damn thing
why would i do that
is there a way to use HEVC for free
steep creek
yeah vlc or mpv
crimson wigeon
Use a decent media player
steep creek
or iina for macos
crimson wigeon
e.g. basically anything other than the default garbage that comes with the system
reef patrol
MPC BE ftw
crimson wigeon
MPC-BE is the way to go yeah
astral haven
i recommend mpv dot net because its easier
reef patrol
Looks more minimalist. But better than MPC forks?
astral haven
its vastly easier to use, and has near perfect support for different color formats, and has a ton of support via folks doing janky things in the linux community
if you want customization, mpc all the way
but if you want simplicity and performance, mpv
fierce terrace
i wish techpowerup could have better case testing method
how is this even reliable if fractal north got three fans on the front and they are using default assembly without adding or moving one to works as exhaust fan?
ashen spindle
if its out of box vs out of box its valid testing
more people than you would think end up not changing anything they dont need to
fierce terrace
its useless because everyone knows that there need to be exhaust
ashen spindle
I mean there doesn't need to be one though
vagrant pagoda
its useless because everyone knows that there need to be exhaust
Not true
Most people don't even plug in case fans if they don't have a controller
astral haven
even if you think there needs to be one, the cpu fan will probably provide it
marsh glade
All intake means positive pressure in your system which forces air out of cracks instead of in through cracks, which is better for dust.
fierce terrace
they are using low profile cpu cooler noctua nh-l9x65
astral haven
also they used a triple exhaust at the top
what
what case are you talking about
astral haven
oh you mean the thermal stress test?
fierce terrace
yea
astral haven
where you want to see what the case does to air inside?
fierce terrace
what u mean
astral haven
so you put hot stuff in the case to see how much heat it can remove
if fractal wanted it to have an exhaust for that test, they should have installed one
astral haven
if you dont like testing the actual sold product, just watch the gn review
fierce terrace
the solution could be installing 4 the same fans
three as intake and 1 as exhaust
ashen spindle
so then the test isnt useable by someone who just wants a case and doesnt touch it
fierce terrace
because how you can compare a case with no exhaust to for example lian li
astral haven
the solution could be installing 4 the same fans
if fractal wanted to sell that product, they should have
ashen spindle
(I have a lian li without exhaust fan btw lol)
vagrant pagoda
Fractal is big into positive pressure
Idk if they have offered a stock exhaust fan in ages
ashen spindle
GN does multiple versions of tests for this reason, one way will never cover all cases
astral haven
^
techpowerup is nice to have as a sanity check, but their focus is more on aesthetics and providing specs
fierce terrace
sadly their north xl test doesnt include older graphs but i guess its due to changing testing platform
fierce terrace
yea i did that
steep creek
rcs is out for the handful of people on ios 18 beta 2
fickle ore
hasty thunder
very likely, but it could also die off this decade. Remember Itanic?
modest hamlet
For Fractal its always pp But with the North it looks like as much perforations through out it that may be a different case..... 
the North XL is "smaller" on the inside then the Torrent and if you doing a 420 aio in the front you may need to saw a bit out
if using Arctic cooler II/III
ashen spindle
nah thats quite different, itanium was an approcha to extend 32bit to 64 bit, this is something that will come the question is just when and how
aside from us discovering something new in physics that is faster than speed of light or something
hasty thunder
highly doubt it, nothing is faster than light
ashen spindle
yeah so photonics is the logical next step
modest hamlet
highly doubt it, nothing is faster than light
that we can preceve at the moment
hasty thunder
well, i know only 1 thing that's faster than light
and that's Cals when he sees sunlight
hasty thunder
or Mansens fingers when he has to reply to a stupidity ticket
other than that i'm not aware of anything that's faster than light
reef patrol
fierce terrace
rcs is out for the handful of people on ios 18 beta 2
its still dev beta and not optimised in term of battery life
not worth updating at all
steep creek
yea i mean its a beta, bugs and poor battery life are expected
im personally waiting for 18.0 before i upgrade
fierce terrace
no rcs and no apple ai in europe
crimson wigeon
People in Europa tend to use Whatsapp, or other such apps
fierce terrace
they got rcs in na and canada
steep creek
i use imessage 
sudden imp
oh right
smoky frigate
I very much doubt it
steep creek
eu are the ones who wanted rcs support so i doubt it will be blocked
crimson wigeon
No idea, I just know iMessage is exempt from DMA because it has so few users here
sudden imp
Apple AI i get but RCS seems super silly
fierce terrace
two days before they said there wont be rcs in europe apple users
crimson wigeon
And so RCS also has very few users here
smoky frigate
SMS and other carrier messages are treated as a last resort, where I live people will typically call before leaving an SMS
final flame
ashen spindle
yeah nothingburger
even if that happens doesnt change anything, you arent hitting tdp in games anyway and for production you'd likely want to look at a higher core count anyway
also x3d only like 4 months out or so it seems
unkempt lake
Well im already locked into my 7800x3d that i just installed, happy for the price i got it at
Especially considering i play at 5120x1440, 9000x3d wouldn't have done much for me
unkempt lake
even if that happens doesnt change anything, you arent hitting tdp in games anyw...
More the fact that it should beat 7000x3d with the higher tdp
ashen spindle
hope it has AV1 support and good options so we can get rid of amd/nvidia recordings/using obs for it
crimson wigeon
It won't since it's locked to Steam and it has basically no options right now other than quality and GPU encoding yes/no
ashen spindle
I mean nvidia still gives you like no options so im not judging it based off of just the beta state
fair gull
talking about av1... the 40series had a hardware encoder right?
ashen spindle
yes
latent mural
but it's more fun to buy more hard drives
astral haven
Hmmmm
vagrant pagoda
even if that happens doesnt change anything, you arent hitting tdp in games anyw...
You can increase boost without increasing tdp if that wanted games to do better.
ashen spindle
yeah so whatever tdp it has in the end wont matter really
iron wave
rough osprey
😵💫
true quest
cosmic thunder
https://kotaku.com/pokemon-trading-card-tcg-ai-art-illustration-contest-18515590...
the pikachu portrait is well-drawn cutely btw
that's hand drawn right?
unkempt lake
the pikachu portrait is well-drawn cutely btw
The thumbnail?
Ywah the thumbnail is official pokemon art
stone topaz
anyone able to help me find my password for my account on my pc ?
ive been trying to factory reset my pc and it keeps failing and all the videos point me to needing to get the startup repair but i cant get the password for it
stone topaz
From a usb
i dont have a usb to use
unkempt lake
i dont have a usb to use
any 8gb flash drive will do
unkempt lake
Create a windows bootable usb using another pc
stone topaz
Create a windows bootable usb using another pc
i dont have a single usb in my house lol
unkempt lake
Nope besides finding your password
stone topaz
Nope besides finding your password
yk any way to find my password ?
ive reset my microsoft account
analog sinew
would be a shitty password challenge if you could just find it
maybe try changing your account on your phone or sth
zenith silo
is there anythign else i can do ?
Can turn an external HDD into a Windows install USB if you have an extra one of those
That's how I had to install windows on my first PC build
reef patrol
Call up a friend with a car, get your asses down to an electronic store, buy a cheap USB stick of 8gb or more, go to your friend's house, use the tool from Microsoft to make an installer USB, use it on your PC to reinstall.
And this time don't use a password maybe? 
zenith silo
I don't use a Microsoft account for Windows for many reasons, that exact thing being one of them
My brother got locked out before but we managed to get back into his
zenith ferry
Windows users, do you turn on both of these features? Will they conflict with Wooting keyboard?
fair gull
they wont conflict
raw zephyr
@umbral heron 🥴 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/wootility-appimage
fair gull
because that aws url is where we store the installers.... the api url just hands you that link as well but automatically up to date
unsure if that can be used in the aur stuff though. idk if it follows links
raw zephyr
yes i know, Micha on the other hand
fair gull
i mean they do have a point somewhat. its really hard to tell if that aws s3 is the same as the one our api hands you or not.
so ideally the package would come from the api link as well unless theres the aforementioned link follow issues
raw zephyr
the thing is you cannot grab a specific version from the api link, meanwhile it's possible by directly going to the bucket
raw zephyr
or maybe it is and the maintainer just doesn't know it
fair gull
/^\d+\.\d+\.\d+/ is the regex and version= the query param
halcyon moss
Not for video?
halcyon moss
Aah
pale sigil
There's also some scripts in general
Tbh it's only a doggo camera anyway XD, we got it for £25
ashen spindle
https://x.com/lzsthw/status/1805832206360682667 oh it’s so accurate
Twitter
umbral heron
Yeah
If I'm missing any library I just google the package name
pale sigil
https://x.com/lzsthw/status/1805832206360682667 oh it’s so accurate
Fuck me this hurts
To my core
barren pike
apt-file search <file name>
ashen spindle
thats just debian afaik
barren pike
Well, the example was Debian.
ashen spindle
ah, idk never really used debian
just had the same issues when I tried to get vulkan libs to run on ubuntu
pale sigil
Debian is life
ashen spindle
dont remember what the wording was for it missing stuff so I guess its different
pale sigil
But I like arch too because I like self harm it seems
barren pike
apt-file obviously also works on Ubuntu.
umbral heron
pacman -F on Arch 
odd aspen
What's the firmware update?
reef patrol
I...I think they're asking what the update covers, wiseguy 😄
fierce terrace
i dont know
reef patrol
So how do you know if it's good news or not? 😄
odd aspen
So people need to send it to a service center for an firmware update but they don't share the changelog?
Pretty bad if you ask me 😄
modest hamlet
I don't mean it to be a loaded Q. I do know it might be Obv. but if one where to get into Arch or Debian would it be better to start "basic" or with a distro and then work your way to find the best set up for a system? Also about how long on either of the "basic" or distro should you look forward to "min maxing" your system? lets say mid to high range newiest hardware?
fierce terrace
i think you can find changelog somewhere
odd aspen
- Optimized multiple language issues.
- Support Scaler Firmware Update.
- Optimized HDMI CEC behaviors.
ashen spindle
So people need to send it to a service center for an firmware update but they do...
nah its about enabling that you can install future updates if they need to improve or fix anything, however that feature needs a current firmware so if its an older screen you need to bring it in to then update yourself in the future
odd aspen
Should have been able to accept new updates from the get-go imo
ashen spindle
yes and thats what people criticsed so its good to see msi change course on that
fierce terrace
you got firmware updates in 50€ pricier model
and now it turns out there will be no difference
old marlin
good news for some qd-oled folks
fierce terrace
god bless i didn't buy that monitor
odd aspen
Makes me feel a little bit better about picking up an ASUS. Knowing that everyone is dropping the ball on service at least 😄
ashen spindle
which is basically everyone who has that model of monitor
gusty mauve
guys the 5090 is expected to launch the end of the year
ashen spindle
no
old marlin
which is basically everyone who has that model of monitor
hopefully
ashen spindle
free sync model can be updated normally
old marlin
Makes me feel a little bit better about picking up an ASUS. Knowing that everyon...
until you need warranty service
gusty mauve
guys should i buy the 4090 or wait for the 5090 which is expected to launch in this year
ashen spindle
it is not expected to launch this year
gusty mauve
or the first of the next year
odd aspen
<:giggle:765259312746070086> until you need warranty service
I asked my retailer and they will take care of any warranty issues.
gusty mauve
it is not expected to launch this year
i just searched about it
old marlin
what about burn in?
ashen spindle
i just searched about it
so you found something wrong then, all 3 gpu makers are expected to launch next year
umbral heron
RDNA5 when? 
ashen spindle
26
odd aspen
<:giggle:765259312746070086> until you need warranty service
Same thing. They handle any warranty claims.
gusty mauve
man i can’t wait that much
ashen spindle
if you want something now get the 4090 I guess
because you are waiting 6+ months otherwise
gusty mauve
that’s alot of time using a ps4
odd aspen
And tbh I saw the GN interview with the head of Customer Service at Asus. Seemed like a step in the right direction for a better service.
gusty mauve
and alos what games wont work in the 4090 why wait for the 5090
ashen spindle
uhh that sentence doesnt make sense
odd aspen
4090 is more than sufficient for any game
gusty mauve
ik
odd aspen
and will be sufficient for a long time
ashen spindle
ehhh, depends what you define sufficent
its not sufficent to run what I want at my monitors resolution lol
gusty mauve
ok so if i wait untill the 9000 amd launch its maybe a couple of months
do u know i will wait
ashen spindle
by not sufficent I mean im not hitting 16hz at 3440x1440p lol
if you want a pc get it now and dont wait for months just to not play it then
gusty mauve
maybe there is something worth the wait
odd aspen
And is that because of the card or because of an unoptimized game
ashen spindle
card
gusty mauve
should i buy a 4070 until the new 5090?
odd aspen
Depends on your monitor
ashen spindle
look, take a look at your budget, see what you want to play, take a look at a review and see what you can get
odd aspen
4k, don't pick up a 4070
digital cliff
no please tell me how to spend my money!
ashen spindle
yeah you want a 4090 then if you can afford it
idk what your budget is so I cant tell you if its a good decision to spend that much, you have to decide that
gusty mauve
i have been saving for years i afford almost everything
6-7k for a whole room remake
ashen spindle
if you want to spend it then go for it, we dont know when the 5090 is out or how much it costs or how much faster it is
you should always make upgrade decisions based on what you want if there isnt something new around the corner immediately, not on what happens in a year
gusty mauve
so i will buy a mid card mid cpu and sell them after i buy the new ones
odd aspen
No, please don't with that monitor
ashen spindle
whats the point of that, get what you want now and enjoy the setup and then upgrade whenever you want
gusty mauve
i wont have money like this until the new 6000
ashen spindle
if you just get mediocre stuff and then upgrade instantly you pay more and just have worse performance for months
get what you can afford and want now and you will be happy, if you get mediocre parts you wont have fun
gusty mauve
i agree
ashen spindle
and it will cost you more if you have something you replace in the close future
ashen spindle
if you have the money for it and want it, that's how I would do it, doing it half way and waiting on unknown stuff for a long time just means you spend lots of time not having fun
umbral heron
I wonder if it's worth to upgrade to RDNA5 in the future if I'm getting RDNA3 now 
ashen spindle
well, the hope is that it will be but 2 gens in the future is always hard to guess
old marlin
ashen spindle
it is more likely since it has multiple reasons that a halo sku should be needed for that gen but nothing is certain
umbral heron
Eh, 7900 will be more than enough for at least next 3 years for me I guess 
umbral heron
My brother's 1070Ti is days from dying, it whines horribly and glitches when under heavy load
So I have to get new GPU sooner than later
In a pinch I can give him good ole RX 480
hidden oar
@gusty mauve What ram pairing u using aswell
hasty thunder
by all honesty, i'd wait a bit
ashen spindle
why are you asking ram speed before you ask what cpu lol
hidden oar
why are you asking ram speed before you ask what cpu lol
Cause we’re continuing from #🌟│wooting80he
umbral heron
You gotta have that 7200 for Valorant 
ashen spindle
ahh
hasty thunder
not only is the 5k NoVideo series already getting shipped to retailers atm, but 9kX3D is almost done
ashen spindle
not only is the 5k NoVideo series already getting shipped to retailers atm, but ...
I would like your sources on 5000 series being shipped lol
that is the opposite of what everyone on the internet is saying
hasty thunder
give it 3-4 months and you'll see the first 5k FE's
umbral heron
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VjXG89
If it's for gaming, I'd swap CPU for 7800X3D
Other than that it's... okay I guess
gusty mauve
Of what mhz
this is the build
ashen spindle
so you're making stuff up, k
hasty thunder
i don't
lunar forum
most likely end of 2024 where all the new shit drops
gusty mauve
If it's for gaming, I'd swap CPU for 7800X3D
Other than that it's... okay I gues...
no not for only gaming
ashen spindle
how are they shipping cards to retailers when board partners dont even have the cards yet
modest hamlet
I think if you are building around a specific piece. waiting and maybe using the money for other things (saving, growing) till the best opportunities may come later. This is the little marshmallow now vs two down the line
umbral heron
no not for only gaming
Well, mostly gaming
It'll handle most productivity tasks too
Go with 79XX if you need cores
ashen spindle
most likely end of 2024 where all the new shit drops
early 2025 is whats floating around for all gpu makers currently
gusty mauve
studying editing streaming gaming
umbral heron
Then 7800X3D be fine, we're not talking about productivity tools, CAD etc.
lunar forum
early 2025 is whats floating around for all gpu makers currently
yeah. and its just 5080 and 5070 iirc
ashen spindle
you can save like 200$ but using an aircooler instead of the watercooler rest is fine
odd aspen
if you don't care about AIO Coolers, change the CPU cooler to a Peerless Assassin air cooler and save yourself $250
gusty mauve
can someone change any mistakes in the build i am new in pc’s
exotic plinth
Btw why you picked nzxt aio and corsair fans?
gusty mauve
or make it better
lunar forum
cpu will be this year tho
raw zephyr
studying editing streaming gaming
studying - any modern pc will handle that; editing - gpu; streaming - gpu; gaming - 7800x3d is plenty
ashen spindle
well yeah cpus have been announced already
lunar forum
i want to see if intel will go crazy or flop again 💀
exotic plinth
i want to see if intel will go crazy or flop again 💀
1k w cpu when
steep creek
im sorta looking forward to the low power performance for lunar lake, but for desktops ill probably go with amd next time personally
ashen spindle
x3d seems like its coming in septermber so they will just stay in the lead for gaming
lunar forum
1k w cpu when
umbral heron
New Intel CPU will go like crazy... given 300W
lunar forum
i will hold and wait
raw zephyr
why would you pick 7950x3d over 7800x3d? you will just have issues with games
gusty mauve
huh ?
raw zephyr
unless the affinities are fixed on windows
gusty mauve
isnt it better
umbral heron
For games - no, just told you that 
lunar forum
yes but no
umbral heron
And neither for your usecases
lunar forum
i will wait new cpu to release before doing anything tho
gusty mauve
so can you make me a list?
gusty mauve
i will wait new cpu to release before doing anything tho
i can’t with my ps4
lunar forum
amd new cpu spec will be similar but will have update on how the cache works or sth
gusty mauve
i think no need for upgrading if it’s already strong
raw zephyr
you could just be waiting forever
gusty mauve
yes ik
ashen spindle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XhKg6D here take a look at that list
lunar forum
imo the price will go down with new gen being out so soon
ashen spindle
I kept the case the same assuming you like it so this one saves you some money
raw zephyr
cases have really gotten expensive huh?
odd aspen
pretty close to what I picked
gusty mauve
fr
odd aspen
lunar forum
dont use case for max airflow
ashen spindle
eh, it depends what cases you want, if you just want a box its lower than custom modelred glass panels
odd aspen
Saved some on the cpu cooler and upgraded MoBo
ashen spindle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xVDNMV
was going for a different gpu but apparently you can get the liquid cooled one for the same price so selected that, will be good for that case to have the radiator side mounted for it
gusty mauve
doesn’t the nvidia 4090 have the clock maxing i think this is the name
ashen spindle
gpus boost automatically yes
gusty mauve
that’s why i pickes it
ashen spindle
thats what all gpus do
gusty mauve
yes but there is a app for nvidia
lunar forum
nvidia auto boost is really mild
modest hamlet
Maybe a 1200W PSW if you are going for 5090 later? I think its still up in the air about the req. Right?
lunar forum
doesnt really boost much
ashen spindle
without any app
and they are still nvidia cards, they just have someone else make the cooler on it
gusty mauve
oh
ashen spindle
Maybe a 1200W PSW if you are going for 5090 later? I think its still up in the a...
nah 1000W is overkill for this even to some degree
gusty mauve
Didn’t know
lunar forum
did u see the 5000 series rumoured size 💀
gusty mauve
in my country the cpu cooler is so important
modest hamlet
oh right AMD not Intel 😅
ashen spindle
wtf why does that have two coolers listed stupid website
exotic plinth
did u see the 5000 series rumoured size 💀
Bigger is better as They say
ashen spindle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4snJL9 this one then
odd aspen
For that price, you better get a Liquid Freezer 3
modest hamlet
I think ambient air cooling will be best if you can mitigate it better
ashen spindle
nah I really dislike AIOs for cpus that arent furnaces like intel, not that much better, costs and has so many more points of failure
odd aspen
But honestly a Peerless Assassin will be more than sufficient. you can cool a 7800x3d by blowing on it
fierce terrace
did u see the 5000 series rumoured size 💀
it will probably be the same as 4090
ashen spindle
yeah a higher ambient just means a bigger cooler can keep quiter so I just threw the d15 on this list
modest hamlet
it would have to be cause then every one would need a new case
ashen spindle
why do you think they are better
reef patrol
You dang casuals, and your failing AIOs.
fierce terrace
get better gpu version
reef patrol
odd aspen
New RTX5090 leaks
lunar forum
I like deepcool for liquid coolers
fierce terrace
also better motherboard
odd aspen
Arctic >>>
ashen spindle
even in 45 ambient you wont need a liquid cooler to get that cpu coolded down
old marlin
I like deepcool for liquid coolers
atm don't see a reason to not go with arctic for CLCs
ashen spindle
also better motherboard
for what
fierce terrace
for PCIe 5.0
ashen spindle
for what
reef patrol
Either get an excellent air cooler, or have the decency and longterm foresight to get custom watercooling, so you can actually swap components as they fail (pumps, pumps fall like flies) for all of that money you're already paying for an AIO 😄
modest hamlet
I would agree a good Noctua will be better in the long run if you are not using Intel and not OC
umbral heron
B650 is still more than enough
old marlin
yea with arctic you at least get 6 years
fierce terrace
better vrm would be nice too
ashen spindle
again, for what
gusty mauve
why do you think they are better
because it wont lose its coldness
fierce terrace
for future upgrades
old marlin
better vrm would be nice too
absolutely not required
odd aspen
Why spent 100usd on Noctua when a Peerless does the same, if not better job
umbral heron
better vrm would be nice too
If you're overclocking then maybe
ashen spindle
for future upgrades
not needed
old marlin
the current boards are such massive overkill throughout the lineup
ashen spindle
because it wont lose its coldness
not how that works
gusty mauve
then how?
ashen spindle
Why spent 100usd on Noctua when a Peerless does the same, if not better job
higher ambient means a bigger heatsink is more effective and keeps noise down a lot more
said its 45C at his place
fierce terrace
also a better cooler would be nice
modest hamlet
Also Noctua is coming out with the new hotness some time
odd aspen
You pay more than double for maybe a couple of dB's
old marlin
either go decent air cooler, whatever is meta there rn or get an arctic liquid cooler
odd aspen
not worth imo
old marlin
Also Noctua is coming out with the new hotness some time
new coolness
gusty mauve
i don’t really know anything can someone help i don’t care about the money
steep creek
i go with noctua because they've always been reliable for me, also nice that i can just contact then to get a free mounting bracket
old marlin
also the hyte Y70 
old marlin
idk the trend of more screens on everything is just stupid imo
lunar forum
Guys how about aircon 
old marlin
wait there is a screen ?
BRUH
umbral heron
lunar forum
Yeah led cooler
ashen spindle
i don’t really know anything can someone help i don’t care about the money
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4snJL9 anything you would not like about this list? air cooler for cpu means you dont need to worry about pump dying and the performance is just the same if not better
old marlin
no like the case has a screen right on it
modest hamlet
Guys how about aircon <:pepe_listening:1050493757373546628>
thats what I was talking about with ambiant air
gusty mauve
does it have an app for it?
gusty mauve
no like the case has a screen right on it
niceeee
gusty mauve
bro this is my first week in pc’s
lunar forum
no like the case has a screen right on it
I wont mind if it tracks the temp and speed
gusty mauve
i don’t know anything
old marlin
I wont mind if it tracks the temp and speed
why would you need to know that
old marlin
why would you need to know that
as in why would you need to see it all the time
lunar forum
why would you need to know that
So i dont have to open hwmonitor or the msibuner
gusty mauve
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4snJL9 anything you would not like about this list...
no it’s good but the gpu look bad i can get for only 30 dollars a better looking one
old marlin
So i dont have to open hwmonitor or the msibuner
ngl I unironically have looked at it like twice on my current build
legit why would you need to know it
modest hamlet
does it take a hdmi port or is it a usb?
ashen spindle
no it’s good but the gpu look bad i can get for only 30 dollars a better looking...
the gpu is one of the best and since it's a big radiator it cools it better in the case, you can take another one but this one does work better with the case you have
old marlin
does it take a hdmi port or is it a usb?
who knows, they just gave me their german page which is horribly translated
lunar forum
ngl I unironically have looked at it like twice on my current build
So that u know if ur pc is overheating from overclocking
ashen spindle
no it’s good but the gpu look bad i can get for only 30 dollars a better looking...
but it wont make a big difference in the end so if you want the gput o look different thats fine too
umbral heron
Why would you OC nowadays? 
gusty mauve
the gpu is one of the best and since it's a big radiator it cools it better in t...
nice
old marlin
So that u know if ur pc is overheating from overclocking <:dogekek:1134256020156...
step 1 to gain performance (like with overclocking), close the stupid software
also you can't overclock an x3d anyways
lunar forum
step 1 to gain performance (like with overclocking), close the stupid software
I do bios overclock 
ashen spindle
also you can't overclock an x3d anyways
you can do PBO/CO for zen4 x3d and will be able to do more with zen5x3d
old marlin
if you PC is overheating it is either badly configured and you should have noticed from the start, it is failing and you will notice anyway or you were riding on the edge anyways
old marlin
you can do PBO/CO for zen4 x3d and will be able to do more with zen5x3d
is it advisable tho
also jfc this website is translated so badly https://hyte.com/de/y70touch?zCountry=DE
ashen spindle
yeah its just raising limits and hasnt caused any issues for anyone so far
gusty mauve
guys what is the best video for pc building because i will build it
old marlin
it looks like just ran it through deepl
lunar forum
guys what is the best video for pc building because i will build it
💀 good luck
gusty nexus
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4snJL9 anything you would not like about this list...
Should replace the CPU cooler with a Phantom Spirit to get better performance for a lot less and maybe lower the speed of the ram because if I remember correctly the sweet spot for am5 is 6000 and not 6400 ?
Also a 4090 is really overkill and if you wait maybe a year to get the next gen graphics card you could get the same or better performance for a lot less.. 😅
gusty mauve
NO WAY i have a life
old marlin
<:havo:975821613415157860>
pale sigil
not now but when it arrives
Your bd order?
lunar forum
if you PC is overheating it is either badly configured and you should have notic...
I have a 10th gen and left it at max overclock that doesn’t blue screen. Only found out last year that it was running at 100 degress in games
gusty mauve
Your bd order?
no my bd is before a month from today
reef patrol
Why would you use so much metal to mount... SSDs.
old marlin
Why would you use so much metal to mount... SSDs.
those are not SSDs
ashen spindle
Should replace the CPU cooler with a Phantom Spirit to get better performance fo...
phantom spirit wasnt available when I searchd in in the list, 6200/6400 can work on some chips so it's an option and 4090 isnt overkill for that monitor
old marlin
those are storage plates
odd aspen
I'm still rocking a Meshify C case. My RX7900XT is supported by the front fan brackets lol
I like stealth cases
umbral heron
all of it is translated so horribly
They have Polish too
Looks like copy pasted from Google Translate lol
unkempt lake
I'm still rocking a Meshify C case. My RX7900XT is supported by the front fan br...
Meshify ❤️
old marlin
this is worse than the engrish they put on aliexpress
modest hamlet
Is the case a non starter? Would you be willing to look at others?
lunar forum
What case brand is meta now
old marlin
I have a 10th gen and left it at max overclock that doesn’t blue screen. Only fo...
you should have looked at it earlier tho
and would not need a screen to stare at 24/7 to find out
ashen spindle
he said he wanted the case for the look
unkempt lake
I'm using a meshify 2xl, my husband is using a meshify 2 compact @odd aspen they're genuinely amazing cases
odd aspen
old marlin
What case brand is meta now
idk I am fractal pilled because I never got disappointed with them
lunar forum
you should have looked at it earlier tho
I wasnt gaming much so i didnt really notice, until i wanted to undervolt and saw the temps 💀
modest hamlet
it is a nice case ngl
old marlin
but obv still product by product basis
odd aspen
Don't even need GPU support brackets lmao
unkempt lake
Tight fit
modest hamlet
steep creek
idk I am fractal pilled because I never got disappointed with them
saame, i have the r5 can fit literally everything in it
old marlin
US company
lunar forum
idk I am fractal pilled because I never got disappointed with them
Thinking of fractal too, want a no rgb stealth build for my next pc
modest hamlet
its the ad team they know who they are selling to
old marlin
its the ad team they know who they are selling to
stupid products for ....
lunar forum
This look so bad.. a 4090?
modest hamlet
nop it good its wanted it will be loved
old marlin
This look so bad.. a 4090?
the radeon 4090
umbral heron
RTX EON 4090 
odd aspen
7900 XT
ashen spindle
hey I have my 4090 supported by a pair of sawed off chopsticks
lunar forum
I hate it when gpu got so big that it needed a old man stick to not limp
gusty mauve
guys is the operating system important because no one puts it in there builds
odd aspen
Don't buy an OS
reef patrol
guys is the operating system important because no one puts it in there builds
I mean... No OS, no PC
gusty mauve
ik
reef patrol
People don't add it to builds, because not everyone wants to buy Windows (or use significantly cheaper grey market keys)
ashen spindle
or they already have existing keys
gusty mauve
oh i want to buy windows i don’t have a problem with it
reef patrol
Please don't share pirate material.
unkempt lake
oh i want to buy windows i don’t have a problem with it
Just get a grey market key for 20$
old marlin
you still need a legal license to legally use your OS
gusty mauve
Just get a grey market key for 20$
from where?
old marlin
you can (and in some cases have to) activate via PS tho
odd aspen
Please don't share pirate material.
My bad, apologies
unkempt lake
from where?
Used scdkeys before, cheap and the keys always worked
modest hamlet
get thumbdrive 16gb and its on MS web site
gusty mauve
Used scdkeys before, cheap and the keys always worked
no i don’t have a pc this is my first pc
lunar forum
Win 12 soon
odd aspen
Just don't buy a windows key for more than 20usd. I would start with a windows boot usb and an non-activated install
old marlin
Just don't buy a windows key for more than 20usd. I would start with a windows b...
depending on where you are grey market keys are not legal
reef patrol
no i don’t have a pc this is my first pc
At any rate you will need a USB stick with a Windows installer on it. Either bought together with your Windows key, or with help from a friend.
umbral heron
you still need a legal license to legally use your OS
I mean, technically non-activated Windows is on unlimited evaluation period...
severe phoenix
ashen spindle
just do it like me and just never use any key
lunar forum
I mean, *technically* non-activated Windows is on unlimited evaluation period......
Just the watermark 💀
severe phoenix
30$!
old marlin
I mean, *technically* non-activated Windows is on unlimited evaluation period......
depending on the version of windows
reef patrol
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
They have a tool you can run on any Windows based PC to create an installer stick.
unkempt lake
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104834999397658807/1255865108207374407/S...
Cheap
old marlin
depending on the version of windows
windows server for example has a limited evaluation period and from all I know you have to activate it with PS
at least the regular actiavtion thing has always crashed for me
severe phoenix
Kinda insanely cheap, Hall Effect, 2.4GHZ 1000HZ, 20 hour battery life, back buttons. Only 30$. It kinda shits over everything.
umbral heron
Windows Server of course
But they won't be running Windows Server, I guess 
modest hamlet
rember to format usb to fat 32
old marlin
rember to format usb to fat 32
what
umbral heron
exfat will do too
old marlin
you use a flashing tool anyways
gusty mauve
this is the final build any changes?
old marlin
you don't need to do anything else
reef patrol
You don't format it at all. The tool does.
fierce terrace
no i don’t have a pc this is my first pc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cCCVN6 check this list
gusty mauve
umbral heron
Besides Windows will format it by itself
modest hamlet
You don't format it at all. The tool does.
k nm sry
old marlin
has not listened to anything about hte cooler
umbral heron
X670E 💀
odd aspen
What was the website called again that makes a windows install media that skips all the privacy stuff etc. Such a handy thing
old marlin
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cCCVN6 check this list
don't buy an EK AIO lol
gusty mauve
oh right i didn’t change the gpu and the cpu
fierce terrace
don't buy an EK AIO lol
why not?
fierce terrace
6 years
umbral heron
No shady websites 
fierce terrace
the company is dead lol
they just showed up at computex with various of things
old marlin
they just showed up at computex with various of things
they are unable to pay atm
have not heard that situation change
ashen spindle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cCCVN6 check this list
why are you just adding more expensive ram and mobo for no reason
fierce terrace
why are you just adding more expensive ram and mobo for no reason
he said money doesnt matter
old marlin
also corsair ram
unkempt lake
No shady websites <a:hanaBonks:1077434297021108264>
Is ebay banned? Xd
ashen spindle
money doesnt matter doesnt mean add more at it that doesnt do anything
old marlin
he said money doesnt matter
so buy slower ram cause more expensive?
umbral heron
That was not ebay
fierce terrace
so buy slower ram cause more expensive?
even amd suggest going with 6000mhz ram
and it has better latency
unkempt lake
That was not ebay <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362>
I'm just saying grey key sites are basically just like ebay
😛
old marlin
I'm just saying grey key sites are basically just like ebay
not legal in europe anyways
which is where wooting is located
unkempt lake
not legal in europe anyways
Huh?
ashen spindle
even amd suggest going with 6000mhz ram
no quite and also doesnt matter since you can run 6400 ram just at6000 anyway
unkempt lake
Europe wierd
old marlin
prices are so low that cusomters are expected to know that they are unlikely to be legal
umbral heron
Ryzens can handle 2 sticks of 6400 just fine
old marlin
and you can be held accountable for money laundering lol
lunar forum
Any reason for 64gb over 32gb? Dont u need to render some insane stuff to need that much ram.
unkempt lake
Ryzens can handle 2 sticks of 6400 just fine <:PeepoShrug:1060552102457380984>
Not most 7800x3ds unless the timings are loose
modest hamlet
i mean one could always go for a 192gb kit....
old marlin
i mean one could always go for a 192gb kit....
good way to get it to not run fast
unkempt lake
Most 7800x3d struggle to get 6000cl30 out of the box
ashen spindle
192gb is a good way to get performance issues
fierce terrace
the highest officialy support speed for 7800x3d is 5200
ashen spindle
ok thats not relevant tahts jedec
old marlin
the highest officialy support speed for 7800x3d is 5200
that is the highest JEDEC speed when it came out
fierce terrace
but 6000mhz is sweet spot
ashen spindle
intel and amd will always list JEDEC as max support
old marlin
highest JEDEC speed rn is 6400 iirc?
unkempt lake
but 6000mhz is sweet spot
If you can run it
modest hamlet
is the 192gb perf issues only for AMD? or Intel too?
ashen spindle
highest JEDEC speed rn is 6400 iirc?
not quite yet, above 6k needs retimers and the first cudimms with that are only now coming, so in spec yes, in products not yet
old marlin
ye
ashen spindle
is the 192gb perf issues only for AMD? or Intel too?
anyone just because 4 sticks is harder to run so it limits speeds/timings
more memory = harder to run for the controller
old marlin
is the 192gb perf issues only for AMD? or Intel too?
I mean in general makes it less stable
modest hamlet
ok yeah the DD in the ddr right?
old marlin
but also current gen intel is cooked
lunar forum
more memory = harder to run for the controller
So why 64gb over 32gb, just curious
ashen spindle
because 64 isnt really causing issues at those speeds yet
lunar forum
because 64 isnt really causing issues at those speeds yet
But wont it be useless if u dont even use that much ram
ashen spindle
by more I meant more sticks, the raw amount of memory matters less than the slots
odd aspen
To play unoptimized indie games
gusty mauve
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CyLBKX this is the last build any suggestions
unkempt lake
My 7800x3d didn't run my 6000cl30 2x16 hynix a die expo kit out of the box on latest bios update, had to set FCLK to 2000 to get 6000cl30 to run, wouldn't boot on auto
@old marlin
old marlin
it's the same list again
ashen spindle
I mean having more ram on an overkill system isnt going to hurt and doesnt change much
gusty mauve
no the 4090 is different
ashen spindle
yeah you linked the old list again lol
severe phoenix
ashen spindle
you have the wrong cpu
old marlin
My 7800x3d didn't run my 6000cl30 2x16 hynix a die expo kit out of the box on la...
mine runs fine
gusty mauve
cheaprer
old marlin
but I'd have to look what I have exactly
gusty mauve
you have the wrong cpu
again ?
ashen spindle
that list doesnt have the 7800x3d
unkempt lake
<:peepoShrug:1085177719031091260> mine runs fine
I'm saying most won't do it without some light tweaking
umbral heron
@gusty mauve this one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XhKg6D
ashen spindle
its a list with the 7950
old marlin
I'm saying most won't do it without some light tweaking
I just run 2x16 6000 cl30
unkempt lake
Ram still finicky on 7000x3d
unkempt lake
I just run 2x16 6000 cl30
Same
gusty mauve
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CyLBKX this is the right cpu and gpu now
ashen spindle
no lol
old marlin
and ever since I stopped running the release bios for my CPU I have not noticed any crashes
gusty mauve
fr?
ashen spindle
look at the list yourself man its not the right cpu
gusty mauve
I SWEAR I CHANGED IT
unkempt lake
I'm just saying your experience isn't most people's, ram support still aint perfect yet @old marlin
gusty mauve
MAYBE I DIDNT COBY THE LIST
umbral heron
You're pasting the same link
modest hamlet
I SWEAR I CHANGED IT
you are doing great keep going
old marlin
I'm just saying your experience isn't most people's, ram support still aint perf...
yea it is still quite unstable
old marlin
you are doing great keep going
next time was it
now swap out that cooler for like anything else
ashen spindle
I mean if you want the cooler fine but it costs more and does less than a good air cooler
old marlin
and also is worse than an arctic liquid freezer
gusty mauve
this one?
ashen spindle
just get any of the air coolers we suggested dont get a liquid cooler
gusty mauve
bro i don’t understand the difference between them
odd aspen
280 USD on that cooler is just a scam
gusty mauve
ok
lunar forum
nzxt is for aesthetics
ashen spindle
that's fine
fierce terrace
gusty mauve
FINALLY
fair gull
<@351793002278289410> 🥴 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/wootility-appimage
cant even comment the version param on this cause i cant run their dumb as fudge captcha since it needs pacman installed
modest hamlet
unkempt lake
@old marlin
old marlin
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p6Kg6D
who even needs a motherboard, really
gusty mauve
https://tenor.com/view/somethin-somethin-somethin-robert-nesta-marley-bob-marley...
i said something not somethin
umbral heron
cant even comment the version param on this cause i cant run their dumb as fudge...
What's the captcha? I'll give you the output
fierce terrace
who even needs a motherboard, really
changed to b650e because of PCIe 5.0 if he will want to upgrade
ashen spindle
changed to b650e because of PCIe 5.0 if he will want to upgrade
you dont need pcie5 or a bigger vrm
old marlin
changed to b650e because of PCIe 5.0 if he will want to upgrade
why do you need pcie 5.0
gusty mauve
everything
fair gull
What's the captcha? I'll give you the output
requires the output of LC_ALL=C pacman -V|sed -r 's#[0-9]+#5e3#g'|md5sum|cut -c1-6
gusty mauve
also i edit and stream
umbral heron
requires the output of `LC_ALL=C pacman -V|sed -r 's#[0-9]+#5e3#g'|md5sum|cut -c...
b7983f
fierce terrace
<:giggle:765259312746070086> why do you need pcie 5.0
for every single gpu in the future
fair gull
which i tried to replicate but realized pacman has a dumb version output with extra ascii art
old marlin
for every single gpu in the future
no
ashen spindle
for every single gpu in the future
thats just not true
lunar forum
i will change motherboard too because i need like 6-8 usb slot
old marlin
they will all also work on pcie 4.0 or 3.0 boards
gusty mauve
i play elden ring cod and alot more
fierce terrace
sure they will work
old marlin
with 3.0 you might run into overhead issues
but with 4.0 it will take a long time until you get that
fierce terrace
but at what bandwith
gusty mauve
i will change motherboard too because i need like 6-8 usb slot <:dogekek:1134256...
ok what mother board then ?
ashen spindle
but at what bandwith
you will not lose any performance on pcie4 with a 5090
lunar forum
ok what mother board then ?
just look the port and see how many do u actually needs
fierce terrace
ok im saving that message
lunar forum
ur current one has like 4 or sth
ashen spindle
sure
unkempt lake
@old marlin whats ur fclk set to (you can use zentimings)
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-ryzen-zen-timings/?amp
odd aspen
i play elden ring cod and alot more
If you want to stream, maybe it's better to go for 2 32" Oleds instead?
old marlin
<@595970503710343168> whats ur fclk set to (you can use zentimings)
https://www....
idk, not at home rn
unless you wanna see wtf my laptop runs
unkempt lake
idk, not at home rn
Guess just show me when ull be home xd
old marlin
if I remember
old marlin
Guess just show me when ull be home xd
btw what board do you run
unkempt lake
Msi X670e gaming plus wifi
ashen spindle
but at what bandwith
you can set a 4090 on gen3 and you lose 0-15% at worst so that means a 5090 would need to be using >2x the bandwidth to see any impact
old marlin
Msi X670e gaming plus wifi
ah, B650E PG riptide for me
fierce terrace
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qWyTL9
change rams for those what i put and you should be fine
umbral heron
you can set a 4090 on gen3 and you lose 0-15% at worst so that means a 5090 woul...
3090 was still perfectly happy on gen3
old marlin
I literally linked a GN video testing that above
ashen spindle
3090 was still perfectly happy on gen3 <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362>
yup
fierce terrace
yeah you should be fine
gusty mauve
nice
lunar forum
u need to match ur own needs
gusty mauve
finally after a whole week of working on a pc
odd aspen
Good build. You'll enjoy Elden Ring on that thing for sure 🙂
fierce terrace
although i would swap corsair rgb fans to Phanteks PH-F120T30 since they are one of the bests on the market
tulip flare
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-ultimate-2c-wireless-controller?variant=...
FUMINORI PFP
gusty mauve
although i would swap corsair rgb fans to Phanteks PH-F120T30 since they are one...
can’t i celebrate for a minute
severe phoenix
A person of culture, I see.
gusty mauve
always there is changes
fierce terrace
just buy it and enjoy
gusty mauve
thank you guys
fierce terrace
you can change fans later
modest hamlet
Cheers
gusty mauve
ok i changed it
fierce terrace
or you can even buy another set of three fans and put them on top
modest hamlet
it does not look like you will be disappointed
raw zephyr
cant even comment the version param on this cause i cant run their dumb as fudge...
looking at their aur auto update, it does seem to do exactly that https://github.com/Freso/aur-auto-update/blob/main/config/Freso/wootility-appimage.yaml
odd aspen
He's used to a ps4, he will be blown away
fair gull
looking at their aur auto update, it does seem to do exactly that https://github...
then why is the file source linked as amazonaws
is aur just shite and only links the last resolved url?
fierce terrace
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w7ZKjH
good one
modest hamlet
might I add a ESD strap when building just for S and Gs
gusty mauve
what is this also?
modest hamlet
gusty mauve
is it on amazon
modest hamlet
ye
gusty mauve
nice
umbral heron
might I add a ESD strap when building just for S and Gs
Strip isolation from copper wire, tie around your hand and radiator for example and you're good to go
gusty mauve
thank you guys
modest hamlet
5k on a system but copper wire for an esd
digital cliff
works just the same though
fierce terrace
its not very user friendly and this is his first pc
i doubt he knows how to do that
modest hamlet
sure but the spool of copper wire and stripper will cost more then a strap
gusty mauve
i don’t know you are right
gusty mauve
i think there is a place in my town build pc’s for you
gusty mauve
should i go to the place?
umbral heron
Nah, strand of copper may cut your tongue or lip 
old marlin
Strip isolation from copper wire, tie around your hand and radiator for example ...
does your radiator have exposed metal?
modest hamlet
i think there is a place in my town build pc’s for you
you could but its is WAY beter to DIY so you can learn how the legos fit
gusty mauve
i would like to build it but wouldn’t like to break it
modest hamlet
IMHO
umbral heron
does your radiator have exposed metal?
Yup, around thermostat valve
modest hamlet
Nah, strand of copper may cut your tongue or lip <:cutieCry:542990910661853196>
or lacerate your skin
odd aspen
should i go to the place?
I would let them take care of it if you’re nervous about it. Depends on how much they ask for building though
gusty mauve
not much
and also my town is in boarder with another country which have the best pc place in the middle east
albahrian
old marlin
Yup, around thermostat valve
ah, true
odd aspen
not much
Then let them handle it if you’re inexperienced. With such an expensive build it might be a good idea
modest hamlet
i would like to build it but wouldn’t like to break it
up to you obv's but there are a lot of yt vids on building. Even if you have it built for you Id suggest to take a look at one or two of them just so you know what is what
gusty mauve
i think i will go to the other country for them to build it
it’s like 60 kilometres away from me
modest hamlet
if bumpy roads may want to lay it on its back
gusty mauve
the case right?
umbral heron
You might want to also learn how to take out the GPU from PCI slot, quite useful if you want to transport your PC somewhere
gusty mauve
thank you
modest hamlet
the case right?
yes
gusty mauve
thanks to everyone that helped
trust me i will never forget you guys
guys one last question
do i buy a lazy boy chair or what?
modest hamlet
nah
gusty mauve
recliner
for back pain
i was setting on the ground for years while playing on the ps4 so i have back pain
hasty thunder
just buy a proper chair that's actually meant to be used for long sessions and not the greatest lie told to gamers
modest hamlet
for back pain I would suggest talking to a dr first and or working on getting flexible and working out said muscles although I am not a dr so talk to one first
if its just from sitting on the floor and nothing else (I am not a dr) I would use the muscles and work abs too
unkempt lake
just buy a proper chair that's actually meant to be used for long sessions and n...
A lazy boy chair is more for like a living room type setup
Aint gonna use a office chair in a living room
Lol
gusty mauve
talked to a dr said it’s normal but don’t set in the ground and get a comfy chair and the right setting texture
hasty thunder
then go and buy a proper office chair
modest hamlet
is sitting for long periods of time still bad or is that a debunked myth?
gusty mauve
not a myth
hasty thunder
is sitting for long periods of time still bad or is that a debunked myth?
depends a lot on the chair, but actually it is harmful
gusty mauve
i was about to say it
hasty thunder
that's why stand desks exist a.e.
hasty thunder
Ez fix stand up every once in a while and go pet your cat
or touch grass
modest hamlet
So maybe a quality chair and something that will last that will remind you to get up and
modest hamlet
or touch grass
if you can
modest hamlet
Start moving the body needs it you feel better after and will look better too, if your area allows it. Ill also say don't dox your self.... cause you almost have kinda
just as a General precaution
gusty mauve
i have a gym membership and it makes it worse
i think gaming chair are a little bit expensive and a lazy boy is better
modest hamlet
start walking with maybe a bottle of water and walk for 15 min and then back do that for a wile
gusty mauve
i think it’s the best for my back
i play football that’s the biggest problem for my back
modest hamlet
lazy boy is just a not so good bed
I mean to play games with a keyboard and mouse you will need to lean so far forward that its counter productive
modest hamlet
also no wheels so it won't fit under desk
lyric hatch
something with some lumbar support
modest hamlet
try a pull up bar to fit your door way to do pullup and to hang like a roman chair good for abs, good abs better back
gusty mauve
thanks
modest hamlet
ye
gusty mauve
good office chair >>>>>> any "gaming" chair
didn’t find good ones
this is the full price
5,979.301
vagrant pagoda
Yeah my 10 year old office chair is more comfortable than any gaming chair I've used
odd aspen
Herman Miller is a popular and reliable brand
But quality chairs are expensive af. Might want to look for a refurbished one to save some money
reef patrol
And expensive as balls.
gusty mauve
is it good for back pain?
odd aspen
a Chiropractor is good for backpain
gusty mauve
my back deserves any price
reef patrol
a Chiropractor is good for backpain
They're quacks with no actual medical or scientific grounding.
fierce terrace
just buy herman miller
odd aspen
They're quacks with no actual medical or scientific grounding.
I wouldn't know. Never had to visit one 😄
exotic plinth
a Chiropractor is good for backpain
Your setup is not optimized enough
gusty kiln
Refurbished steelcase or Herman miller are great value
Damn tech talk have a 5s CD now?
What happened
gusty mauve
idk
i was texting and without any problem
and afer a couple seconds later a cd is here
gusty mauve
do u know i will buy a lazy boy
it’s the only one who will fit me in am taall for the other ones
gusty mauve
thank you
steep creek
is it good for back pain?
i tried the embody today in fact. felt really comfortable for me, tho i dont have back pain
slowmode for tech talk 
gusty mauve
maybe someone spammed
i am tall for these
i am getting a lazy boy
i will check how tall it is for the table
modest hamlet
the time tag for 6'3" + 190 cm highend chairs is 1:10
reef patrol
slowmode for tech talk <:RWSadge:853954482622824468>
Time to learn how to use editing, instead of spamming one liners
modest hamlet
steep creek
Time to learn how to use editing, instead of spamming one liners
the slowmode is only 5 seconds so its fine, no issues
odd aspen
I just have a secret lab and it works. I'm happy with it
gusty kiln
Time to learn how to use editing, instead of spamming one liners
Oh man I hate it when people text like that, 1-2 words in succession. Keeps making your phone buzzz
analog sinew
who has alerts on
gusty mauve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQEkEfQs5vs&t=5018s
thank you so much
tacit matrix
is there a channel for non wooting problems like pc problems
modest hamlet
well I have seen hardware asks here so shoot
reef patrol
is there a channel for non wooting problems like pc problems
Yes, here 🙂
tacit matrix
thanks
this is a very odd problem but does anybody know how to fix this whenver these pop ups come up I cant click anything (ie: the allow or block or even the x to close it) unless I like triple click on outerlayer the pop up
unkempt lake
They're quacks with no actual medical or scientific grounding.
Yeah... crazy how much they managed to market a crazy thing to that many people
There's like extremely a few little niche things that have been proven about it working but 99% of it is just placebo
If it worked people wouldn't have to constantly go back xd
A physiotherapist on the other hand can actually help
smoky frigate
heh, we have our own homegrown quack industry with homeopathy
rough patrol
if you want your spine snapped in half no need to spend a lot of money on chiropractors, a wrestler will do it for free
unkempt lake
heh, we have our own homegrown quack industry with homeopathy
forgot about that meme
smoky frigate
they even sell homeopathic medicine for pets, which is plainly evil
unkempt lake
if you want your spine snapped in half no need to spend a lot of money on chirop...
So many lawsuits
Theres also the essentials oil people @smoky frigate
Take this essential oil beat cancer bullshit
rough patrol
they even sell homeopathic medicine for pets, which is plainly evil
homeopathy is hilarious cause it's just whatever compound they think works, then diluted by a million cause that apparently increases potency somehow?
smoky frigate
fuck man. so many quacks preying on people's helplessness. they are deserving of nothing but anthrax
sudden imp
They're quacks with no actual medical or scientific grounding.
You need to go to psychical therapy for back pain not the back breaker
They try to stretch your muscles n shit without buildup which can hurt ya
smoky frigate
homeopathy is hilarious cause it's just whatever compound they think works, then...
like, I can sort of get behind it with placebo. placebo works wonders for me, I cured depression twice that way, and it even works if you KNOW it's placebo. psychology is just messed up that way. but I don't want this industrial complex around it, it's ridiculous. and pets??? ANIMALS???? WHAT
like what happens if I take 1 millionth of an arsenic, do I get arsenic poisoning? NO
this makes me unreasonably angry to think about, it was a horrible day, I am going for a walk
Fuck!
smoky frigate
walk with mister cat SUCCESS, I feel better
balmy vector
Kitty :)
smoky frigate
now to sit down in the sun, and enjoy some fine music and mead. things like these are not essential for survival; but they make survival worth it
steep creek
walk with mister cat SUCCESS, I feel better
that’s just awesome