🔌│tech

[wheat plume]

I wasn't logged in
I'm only logged into the YouTube app on my laptop

[reef patrol]

You're not the one who isn't able to watch the content though?

[halcyon moss]

just send the file at that point O_o

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/pMyuGyRkEEc

[umbral heron]

yt-dlp to mp3

[wheat plume]

Yeh sometimes I do ....

[wheat plume]

Hehe xd yeh

[umbral heron]

Or aac, dunno what YT uses nowadays

[wheat plume]

Can't install that on deck though ;_;

[halcyon moss]

deck still your main?

[wheat plume]

Yes.... I haven't managed to fix the desktop yet

;&; idk what's wrong with it

Cleaned it out
Checked the connection for the GPU and etc

It worked fine for about a week then the shutting off issue happened again

[umbral heron]

yt-dlp's binary only needs Python to run, you don't need to install it, just a single executable will do

[wheat plume]

Oh hmmm

[halcyon moss]

does the deck have pip installed?

then you apparantly can just pip install it

[umbral heron]

You can install pip regardless with ensurepip, as long as there's Python it'll work

[crimson wigeon]

Tube uses Opus for the crispest audio quality

[halcyon moss]

isnt opus a speech codec?

[crimson wigeon]

Yes it's also that

[fair gull]

opus is just audio

i think the main point of opus is that its RFC defined and worked on by the IETF

[median mirage]

@fair gull

Are your tax refunds based on the exchange rate of the day?

[fair gull]

???

im unsure about the question or its relation to tech

[median mirage]

emmm

[marsh glade]

If you have a question that is related to your specific order, shipment, or payment, you'll need to reach out to [e-mail] for assistance

[median mirage]

ok I just have questions.

[cursive summit]

Unironically we need a WootingGPT just to answer questions like this

Free up the poor email people from too many questions that aren't critical

[steep creek]

i believe if i recall right, wooting uses some form of gpt for emails lol

think i read that a while ago

[reef patrol]

We do, we do.
Have that*

[cursive summit]

That's cool

But for Discord too

[umbral heron]

I love you past me
I did repairs on the monitoring stuff I'm fixing again now
And every single cable that goes there is labeled with notes from past me
Like "Leave this one unplugged you idiot, you've tried to make it work for 4 hours last time, it's just not plugged anywhere"

[balmy vector]

[severe phoenix]

https://starfishneuroscience.com/team/

Gaben is becoming AI

[cursive summit]

Interesting, an ITX build I did for my sister keeps overheating

RX 6800XT jumps from 50°C ambient temps with no fans on to 95°C and 110 hotspot in a second

And just sticks there until shuts down in like 1 min

Weird temps, it's a Red Devil model, three fan, open case

These temps are about the same as my blower RX 5700 lol, except my blower doesn't shut down at those temps

Straight to 100 in a few frames

Fans don't do shit on an open case

Very peculiar

2000RPM still at 110 hotspot

Oooh interesting, it seems this GPU design has a vapour chamber and doesn't work when vertical

It was vertical this whole time

Well the fans don't take a million years to ramp up anymore, but temps are still.. somewhat high

No longer 110 but fluctuates between 65 and 110 in different scenes

[old marlin]

That's still really bad

[cursive summit]

It is innit

Not too sure what's wrong with it

[old marlin]

Comtact the manufacturer

Try to rma

[cursive summit]

Yeah that might need to be done

Seems there are cases like this where temps are just insanely high

I wonder if keeping it vertical killed the vapour chamber or someshit lol, never heard that vapour chambers need to be kept horizontal

Prolly gonna take it to my rig, plug it in, see how temps are and see if it's just that particular environment or if it's actually fucked and needs RMA

[old marlin]

Can be an issue actually

But should not damage it permanently

[cursive summit]

That's why I'll give it a couple of days to see if it causes issues and then see what's up, I don't live close by so it's annoying to walk back and forths

Maybe the vapour chamber will just rejuvenate somehow

[fair gull]

https://pretendo.network/

the name is golden

[reef patrol]

[marsh pewter]

W graphic design

"3DS" at the top of the website looks ai generated tho

[vagrant pagoda]

Instant ramp on hotspot is bad cooler mount/TIM

[cursive summit]

TIM?

[vagrant pagoda]

https://youtu.be/uzwnTaWfJO0

Thermal interface material

[cursive summit]

Well I am suspecting it's just a bad factory design

Either bad paste application, dry paste, bad cooler mount

[vagrant pagoda]

Paste/pad/goo

That's what I said XD

I'd do a remount first. Doesn't void the warranty and could fix it

Unless you got it from a in person retailer

[cursive summit]

I'll bring it over if the temps are fucked to my place and mount it into my rig, if the temps are still fucked then RMA

Warranty in EU is great, will just get a replacement

I guess problem is that rig is running a 5600 non-x so it'll be unusable

[vagrant pagoda]

Takes time

Takes an hour to do a TIM replacement. Takes half that to do an RMA lol

[severe phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870656995642982430/1226915115073536103/1712553870008.mp4?ex=662680be&is=66140bbe&hm=fe0bdf5c5d97f1b3f8f140523d380d9477acdb11ed84aae3b193f817c27fc396&

[ashen spindle]

thats a lot of effort someone mad for a mid tier shitpost

[vagrant pagoda]

i remeber watching them film that

[astral haven]

god what a beaut

[vagrant pagoda]

ikr

[smoky frigate]

oh this is fickin cool

[wheat plume]

Ooooo

[atomic hornet]

Not even mid teir imo.

[empty wren]

https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-ends-its-US-phone-business-by-selling-patents-to-Oppo_id157081

Nice

[halcyon moss]

OPPO? Not nice

[sharp badger]

Hmm ''The 48 patents that LG sold to Oppo back in November are, according to the USPTO and The Elec, related to codecs required for video and audio streaming signal compression.''

[whole axle]

Here’s an updated build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XvJmh3

Would yall change anything In it?

[sweet cairn]

PSU maybe.

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

See if there is any A tier PSU for the same money

I've had that PSU before with no issues though.

[ashen spindle]

list seems fine

[lyric hatch]

Looks all good 👍

[atomic hornet]

Only thing I would personally possibly do is stretch a bit for a 2tb drive, but that depends on your usage.
Seems fine to me.

[whole axle]

I just chose it bc of my motherboard

I have a bad habit of wanting to match brands

😭

[whole axle]

For the games I have an play I don’t need 2tb

For now at least

[sweet cairn]

I totally get that, if it makes you feel better I did the exact same on my last build lmao

What resolution do you game in?

[whole axle]

Rn 1080p 165hz but I’m upgrading to the 1440p 480hz when it comes out.

Or 4k 240

Haven’t decided yet lol

[lyric hatch]

You and me both either way it's 💸

[whole axle]

Yeah 😭

So I’m trying to maximize performance and minimize cost on this pc lmao

I think before I asked if the pc was good

My build was around 2.4k 💀

[sweet cairn]

If you go 4K you can def get away with a much cheaper CPU and juicing up your GPU budget

[astral haven]

Not that much tho

[whole axle]

My number one game I play is Val so that’s why I opted to get the 7800x3d

[astral haven]

Orant or heim

[whole axle]

?

[astral haven]

Val (orant or heim)

[whole axle]

Ooo

Valorant

[astral haven]

Solid

[whole axle]

Other than that it’s like souls like games

That’s pretty much it

[sharp badger]

https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-rx-7900-gre-nitro/images/relative-performance-3840-2160.png https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-rx-7900-gre-nitro/images/average-fps-3840-2160.png 4K & Competitive doesn't sound right to me though lol

[finite comet]

How often do u guys clean ur wooting

[lyric hatch]

2- 3 times a year for me

[ashen spindle]

idk when it looks dirty enough

[whole axle]

Yeah fair enough I’m like 80% sure I’m going for the 1440p 480hz

[wheat plume]

How much does the Minisforum V3 cost???

[ashen spindle]

look on their website??

[analog sinew]

no

[wheat plume]

no

its not on their website for sale yet, only china

[ashen spindle]

if its not for sale there is no price if its not announced

[wheat plume]

and I cant access the Chinese store ;-;

[smoky frigate]

under 1000 eurodollars atm, so it'll be 1000 eurodollars when it releases here HAH

[ashen spindle]

https://www.google.com/search?q=Minisforum+V3+price

[wheat plume]

and that starts at what? 16GB RAM 215GB SSD?

[fair gull]

hard to find

[wheat plume]

hmm, its around 1000 dollars

I have a digital Windows Home license, but this comes with Pro, so if I log into my account during setup, will it swap back to Home or upgrade the license on my account to Pro?

[analog sinew]

what is this website?????

[smoky frigate]

the display is absolutely ebin, even has freesync, I might get this for playing games in bed

[wheat plume]

ebin?

[smoky frigate]

deliberate misspelling of "epic"

[wheat plume]

ooohhh

[fair gull]

bing.com

[analog sinew]

must be new

[fair gull]

yes

[wheat plume]

I also love that you can use the tablet as a display

[fair gull]

its like ask.com

or yahoo.com

[analog sinew]

i get my urls from the sears catalog

[wheat plume]

I get them from AOL

[ashen spindle]

that explains a lot

[analog sinew]

not random wooting discord channels?

[fair gull]

tmw aol isnt even as old as yahoo

pretty sure even altavista is older than aol

or well AOLs search engine thing

[fair gull]

where she actually tries to find data: https://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/DataSources/WWW/Servers.html

[ashen spindle]

lmao

[wheat plume]

🤔 is Cyberpunk always so dark or did he turn gamma wayyyy down for some reason?

[sweet cairn]

its not this dark normally

[analog sinew]

that pic is oversaturated af

[wheat plume]

yeh it is

[fair gull]

where the crap even is that in game

[wheat plume]

idk, he dropped off some plaza into an area with market stalls

its by El Guapo

[fair gull]

its by an ad?

[wheat plume]

Cyberpunk is full of ingame ads so yeah, probably

but hes by the shop sign / entrance

[fair gull]

right there

[astral haven]

different settings levels have different amounts of light

and different times of day have different light balance

[fair gull]

i tried all times of days

ill set it to low

[astral haven]

it looks like its probably sunny in his photo

[fair gull]

all at low settings

[ashen spindle]

its a picture of the screen not a direct screenshot with unkwon settings and andoverlay that could make it darker, or hdr broke or a filter on the video afterwards

[fair gull]

id assume filter on the video

the next games look normal

despite the overlay

[astral haven]

oh yea it is using hdr

[astral haven]

I do remember cyberpunk being that dark frequently

[fair gull]

i have not experience cyberpunk that dark even on my hdr display

i quickly checked HDR 10PQ but it also never looks as dark to me

also checked through my phone cam with an almost white background and good lighting like the video

cant get it that dark

[astral haven]

not sure what to tell you, but I experienced it being that dark, and the picture looks about right to me

[fair gull]

so if i go into HDR settings and fuck around with them i can get it to look like that

[astral haven]

set the settings correctly for your display?

[fair gull]

if they are correct it doesnt look that dark

i had to intentionally miscalibrate it just now

with quite extreme values

like only 300nits peak, messing up the paper wight balance to be at extremes and such

[astral haven]

strange, when I had it set correctly it looked like that

🤷 maybe your displays gamma curve is not as cyberpunk expects

[fair gull]

i mean its a normal odyssey g9

also just realized its kinda stupid to send screenshots when i look at hdr games

[analog sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/dented-head-head-smile-gif-12205170

[astral haven]

if you turned off local dimming, thats near the correct values for the screen btw

[lyric hatch]

Just need a monitor with the pixel density and brightness of my phone at 480hz+ is that too much to ask

[astral haven]

yes

[lyric hatch]

One day it'll exist, give it 10 years

[fair gull]

nope

i still got 1 main issue though even if that would have fixed the general scene

i cant find a time of day where the sky is bright enough and the ally dark as night

[astral haven]

your phone display probably cost $120-200 and uses a display controller that probably costs about that much as well
your monitor is probably between 15 and 20x the area, and this is wafer fabbing, so the cost increases exponentially with the area not linearly

[fair gull]

yeah so going through the day there is no time of day where the vending machine lights arent overpoweringly bright

and the ally dark

ah yes the important shards enemies drop

but yeah all i can think of is it might be some condition of how early in the story they are

since the story can also determine atmospheric conditions which might block sunlight or smth

[teal blade]

how can i turn my shift into being able to also work as a function key

[sweet cairn]

wootility

[teal blade]

yeah im there but idk how to do it

[sweet cairn]

I'm bad with instructions so just fiddle around, it's possible lol

[reef patrol]

In what way?

[teal blade]

So like

shift works both as normal shift and function

when being held

cause for a game i play since its a 60% keyboard i need to use the function key for a specific key

[reef patrol]

You'd lose the ability to use shift on the base layer if you somehow accomplished this. Just saying.

[teal blade]

and i have to stop running with shift in order to use the key i want

[teal blade]

i remember my ducky one 2 working like that

it was a bad keyboard but i just remember being able to do that

[reef patrol]

Being able to... not use capitalized letters?

If you hold down the FN key, you're on Layer 1.

[teal blade]

no the letters would still capitalize

but

id be able to hold shit to run in game using wasd

while also being able to use other keys not on the base layer

[reef patrol]

No, no they would not. That's not how layers work

The base layer and its keybinds is the base layer.
Layer 1 is its own thing.

[teal blade]

i mean thats what i remember from the othger keyboard

ig its diff for wooting

[cursive summit]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Top-RDNA-4-GPU-to-overtake-RTX-4070-Ti-SUPER-despite-being-smaller-and-using-less-power-per-leaked-Navi-48-and-Navi-44-specifications.824132.0.html

This stuff better be mega cheap

If AMD releases a Polaris type generation of literally dual cooler small cards, that cost like 300$, and beats 4070Ti super, imma literally cum

RX 480 best card

[lyric hatch]

gpus ain't ever coming down from the current prices

we'll be lucky if they remain the same price

[cursive summit]

I don't see why not

Nvidia's definitely aren't, AMD will do the usual and undercut them

Intel will prolly raise them with Battlemage cause A-series was a scam for themselves how cheap they were

[lyric hatch]

consumers have already shown how much they're willing to pay for these products

AMD's "undercut" is laughable

the difference between a 4080 super and 7900 xtx is $30 USD in my country 😂

very competitive pricing

[ashen spindle]

meh halo card pricing isnt a good comparison

but yeah amd isnt your friend they just want your money

rdna4 wont be insane since no halo sku so they have to compete but you arent going to get nvidia at half price

[lyric hatch]

i mean halo is 4090 that's why the price skyrockets it has no competition

[ashen spindle]

if they can make a 4080 that makes profit when selling at 200$ you can bet they are selling it for 400$

[cursive summit]

If AMD brings back Polaris I'm all for it

[ashen spindle]

They won’t

[cursive summit]

Per TPU RX 580 was 232mm squared sized die, Navi 48 is 240 mm2

Sure, means nothing, but if that means dual fan small card for 400$, that's wonderful

[ashen spindle]

Also on 14nmGF which is much cheaper

[cursive summit]

Maybe RDNA4 is the comeback of R9 Nano

Holy shit Nano was a 596 mm² die?

That's a fuck ton bigger than Alchemist, which is massive for current gen

Would be cool if AMD just resurrects old concepts, RX 580 style card, single fan absolutely tiny but high performing monstrosity, and a 295X2 version 2

[ashen spindle]

thats not a concept that just how things worked out and also not happening

and the big ones is not happening with non connected dies anymore

[cursive summit]

They can still bring back a new version of 295X2 with 2 GCD's

They haven't yet experimented with multiple GCDs on a product, not on a released one at least

[ashen spindle]

Mi300

[cursive summit]

Ah that has multiple GCDs?

[ashen spindle]

Not gcds because it doesn’t have graphics but that’s 4 chiplets that act as one

[ashen spindle]

But for interconnected that’s the same setup

[cursive summit]

I wonder what kind of perf can you achieve by taking the GCD of something like the GRE, which is just XT but smaller

And doubling it with infinity fabric interconnect

What are the limitations

You no longer need to use CrossFire cause it's just a normal GPU with 2 graphic dies

[ashen spindle]

yes it acts as one gpu and thats the only thing you will get, no crossfire or anything

the software doesnt know its seperate things

[cursive summit]

So, what are the limitations

A good scheduler that'd efficiently split up the work?

[ashen spindle]

no its just fucking hard and expensive to make the hardware

mi300 is like a year late because of that

its why N4C is in the bin

[halcyon moss]

http://soundexpert.org/articles/-/blogs/audio-quality-of-sbc-xq-bluetooth-audio-codec

[severe phoenix]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/computing-components/brace-yourself-gamers-nvidia-is-upping-the-price-of-several-of-its-graphics-cards-by-10

[astral haven]

very nice if true

[fickle ore]

not enough profit

[halcyon moss]

It's an article. From 5ish years ago

[ashen spindle]

meanwhile intel is currently having their vision aI event and are comparing cpu numbers vs their cascade lake cpus from 2019 to look good lmfao

[analog sinew]

intel has truly gone off the deep end

snake oil!

[olive bobcat]

Possible to buy keys in this layout? The ones that i got were to big

Any ideas which layout they are?

[astral haven]

isnt cascade skylake?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21339/intel-unveils-new-branding-for-6th-generation-xeon-processors-intel-xeon-6
"xeon 6"
of all the branding names for cpus, this is solidly the least offensive, now what are the actual model numbers so we can clown on them

[vagrant pagoda]

is the firmware upto date?

[small sonnet]

Yep

[sharp badger]

https://shop.fairphone.com/fairbuds Wonder if these will sound good 🤔

[astral haven]

if they are delivering a "one-of-a-kind listening experience" it probably wont sound good
why tf would you want your listening to be one of a kind what nonsense is that

[halcyon moss]

One of a kind in a repairable way

[astral haven]

no it says exactly what i quoted

[vagrant pagoda]

6 hours is pretty shit no?

[analog sinew]

marketing blabla

[astral haven]

🤷 its fine for anc, but if thats the actual peak its not great

[vagrant pagoda]

my $50 ankers do 8+

[astral haven]

obviously
but usually marketing nonsense is supposed to be at least appealing sounding

[analog sinew]

it always sounds like whoever writes it has to justify their existence

[astral haven]

so justify your experience by making the product sound good

[halcyon moss]

My xm3 are kinda breaking 😦 sometimes the right bud won't turn on

Maybe if reviews aren't shit these are an option

[vagrant pagoda]

and arent sonys buds like 10+ hours?

[astral haven]

whine to sony, theyve fixed stuff on my out of warranty xm4s

[sharp badger]

6hrs with ANC Off

[astral haven]

oh yikes

[vagrant pagoda]

wow

6 max?

sonys $150 are 7.5 anc and 10 normal

[astral haven]

i was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but thats pretty bad

the xm4s use 75mah button cells in the buds

oh the airpod pros have 49mah batteries, oof

[sharp badger]

https://m.gsmarena.com/upcoming_nothing_ear_and_nothing_ear_a_earbuds_leak_ahead_of_april_18_announcement-news-62358.php Nothing releasing new buds soon , 7.5hrs ANC Off

[cursive summit]

More trash?

TWS is just the most boring market out there

[astral haven]

ive been very happy with the samsungs, i didnt think samsung would do better sounding than the n400 but here we are!

[gusty kiln]

The buds FE are the first iems that aren't uncomfortable to me

And sounds alright

[vagrant pagoda]

are the fe anc?

[final flame]

The second generation was actually good, dms had helped them

[astral haven]

seems they are

[gusty kiln]

Yes

Anc and pass through

[atomic hornet]

Only tws I really tried on were pixel bud lights, the fit was pretty terrible on those vs my normal iems with a tws adapter.

[astral haven]

if you are based enough to use a tws adapter, thats obviously the better solution, but few people are willing to do that

[vagrant pagoda]

I have the fiio 5 and it's great when you don't need anc

[astral haven]

yep, for isolation, there arent really fantastic options compatible with the tws adapters, customs ofc work well, but expensive, etymotic is not compatible with adapters, not without modding, and westone is expensive and not great sounding

[pale sigil]

I dont know how Nothing is even relevant

[astral haven]

gotta admit tho they are the only company making an effort in the smartphone space in the past 3? years

they arent succeeding, but everyone hating on companies for trying to do something is how we lost LG

[astral haven]

actually no i give sony credit for the optical zoom and hdmi in, those were trying something

[cursive summit]

They are not lol

The design is a gen z horror show of shitty battery sucking RGB lights that somehow is a highlight feature and not a detriment

I'm buying a Sony I couldn't care less

https://vxtwitter.com/SamsungDSGlobal/status/1777516822922961385

What are these numbering schemes

Exynos 1480?

[umbral heron]

Vex became an anime girl

[cursive summit]

I always was an anime girl

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-yeah-happy-hapinness-kiniro-gif-12992329

[umbral heron]

[cursive summit]

Chizu best girl

[steep creek]

i almost didnt recognize you vex lol

[cursive summit]

Maybe a complete rebrand is needed

[steep creek]

but i do like the more colorful profile picture

[umbral heron]

Oh, Kanojo, Okarishimasu
I almost wiped its existence out of my mind

[cursive summit]

I mean the previous one was literally my cat's eyes in attack mode

[steep creek]

yea thats what i was used to seeing, cute cat tho

[steep creek]

thats some big pupils lmao

[cursive summit]

Just a normal cat in attack mode

It's a little stupid shit though

[analog sinew]

the slurper

[steep creek]

whole head in the cup a for effort

[cursive summit]

Lol, OpenAI didn't like that Claude 3 Opus actually overtook them in AI sandbox rankings, so they had to release a mini-update to get their top crown back https://vxtwitter.com/OpenAI/status/1777772582680301665

Unironically, if you use AI, just use Claude 3 Opus, it's far better

[umbral heron]

Oh, Anthropic, aren't those people who used to be in OpenAI?

[cursive summit]

Yep

[wheat plume]

gosh damn this theme is stunning

I love it

[steep creek]

Banger, I actually like it

[wheat plume]

It's the graphite theme by Vince
They make some amazing themes

https://github.com/vinceliuice/Graphite-gtk-theme

[steep creek]

Sweet thanks, I’m still on windows but I am actually close to giving linux a shot

[wheat plume]

Ah!
What desktop are you looking into?

[steep creek]

I was thinking about pop but I am open to suggestions

[wheat plume]

Imo
You should try something totally different to Windows so you get used to things being different

Pop os used gnome desktop
But heavily customized

Good choice to begin with

[steep creek]

That’s a good point, pop is a little similar to macos ui wise and I have used macos a bunch in the past

[wheat plume]

Gnome desktop be like that :p

[steep creek]

Yea lol

[wheat plume]

Gnome and MacOS share a lot of similar UI design
But I like that

MacOS is way more gorgeous than Windows can ever be soooo I'll take it

[steep creek]

I like the look of gnome and macos especially so it’s a positive thing for me

Though one thing I wanted to ask

Last time I tried out pop the font rendering was pretty bad to be honest, do you know of any tips to improve it?

[wheat plume]

...... Sadly the best font rendering I found was in plain regular Ubuntu or Fedora Workstation

Id suggest Fedora over stock Ubuntu personally

[steep creek]

You know since I’ve used pop and ubuntu before maybe I should try fedora just for some change hm

[wheat plume]

They both use gnome desktop
But Fedora doesn't modify it unlike Ubuntu

[steep creek]

I see

[wheat plume]

So whatever you prefer

[steep creek]

Ok I will do some research tomorrow, got my day off

[wheat plume]

Fedora can also be upgraded to the next release
Ubuntu must be reinstalled

[wheat plume]

Ayooo!

[steep creek]

O wow I thought linux in general one upped windows in not needing to restart and all that lol

[wheat plume]

What type of software do you need?

[wheat plume]

You don't need to restart Linux for upgrades unless the kernel itself or GPU drivers and other firmware is upgraded

[steep creek]

It’s quartus pycharm, vsc, microchip studio and a few others but I believe they should be available for linux

Most of them

[wheat plume]

Fedora does require a reboot though
So they can take a backup before installing the updates Incase anything goes wrong

[steep creek]

Ah gotcha

[wheat plume]

Quartus?

[steep creek]

That’s fair I guess, ive heard a lot of good things about fedora

[wheat plume]

Fedora is rock solid

I'm using it daily on my laptop and fell in love

[steep creek]

It was called altera before, used to for fpga development

[steep creek]

Oh sweet

[wheat plume]

Just be careful
During the initial boot after you install Fedora
You'll get a little UI setup process to make an account and whatnot

ENABLE third party repositories
It gives you the option
TURN IT ON!

:p

[steep creek]

Ok I will make note of that lol

[wheat plume]

That's how you get the proprietary drivers and media codecs

[steep creek]

Ah I’ll probably need that since I have a nvidia card

[wheat plume]

Yeah yeah

[steep creek]

And Realtek I heard is a pain sometimes lol

[wheat plume]

Wifi cards maybe
Depends on what one you got

[smoky frigate]

fedora quality very much depends on release, Ubuntu is a safe bet if you just want things to work. font choice and font rendering are excellent in ubuntu, whereas in fedora.. well it's not my thing

[steep creek]

I’ll figure it out can’t remember at the moment

[wheat plume]

Intel work fine
The one in the Deck works fine and that's realtek

Fedora Workstation is rock solid
I tried Kinoite but I didn't vibe with it

[steep creek]

I see, hm, guess I can try both in a vm before I install it

[wheat plume]

Keep in mind
Performance in a VM sucks!

So they will lag a lot

[smoky frigate]

yeah ofc, go wild, maybe you'll like it

[steep creek]

Yep that’s fine just to get a general feel of the distro

[umbral heron]

Realtek audio or some other stuff?

[steep creek]

Indeed audio

anyways thanks for info and all I appreciate it

[smoky frigate]

realtek audio is usually flawless, don't have to change anything

[wheat plume]

The audio should be fine yeah

Pipewire 💜

My beloved

[umbral heron]

Pipewire + alsa-sof-firmware and you're covered

[wheat plume]

IDK what that alsa firmware package is but I'll take your word for it

[steep creek]

I will note it down

[smoky frigate]

I have mixed opinions about pipewire but it's a zillion times better than what it replaced. hated pulseaudio with a passion.

[wheat plume]

Same .-.

Pulse was a pain in the everywhere

[umbral heron]

It's Sound Open Firmware, in most cases you don't need it, only sometimes with some laptops, most notably from HP
Called alsa because it plugs straight to ALSA, on Arch it's just sof-firmware

[wheat plume]

Oohhh

Neat

My audio works fine without issues on my laptop luckily

[steep creek]

asking on here much easier than googling around looking for audio solutions

[wheat plume]

Hehehe

You won't need them
Unless you have a bunch of dacs and amps and shit all plugged in and whatnot

[steep creek]

I had some issues with wifi and trackpad drivers last time it was a pain to figure out, but I was new I guess

Ah no I just use the laptop speakers haha

[wheat plume]

Trackpad
..... Right right
What brand is your laptop?

[steep creek]

Lenovo yoga c740 I believe

[wheat plume]

LOL you'll be fine xd

[wheat plume]

Oh hmmm
Ok

[steep creek]

Somehow the touch screen worked out of the box but not the trackpad lol

[umbral heron]

Lenovo stuff is very well supported
Trackpad should work with just kernel drivers, if not then xf86-input-evdev will solve the issue

[wheat plume]

Touchscreen support in GNOME desktop is wonderful ☺️
All the gestures are so fun to do

[smoky frigate]

could have been xorg being a shit. whatever you run now will probably run wayland, which may work better

[steep creek]

Epic I’ll save it

[wheat plume]

Oh
You'll be on xorg cause Nvidia

[steep creek]

Oh yep I see

[umbral heron]

Not sure if Fedora comes with it by default though

[wheat plume]

Nvidia aren't cooperating with Wayland devs so they basically abandoned hacking together Nvidia support

[wheat plume]

That's what I'm worried about
They might need to use Ubuntu instead

Or Arch ;)

Lol

[steep creek]

Oh wait sorry I was a bit unclear, my desktop has a nvidia card but laptop is just intel iris

[wheat plume]

Ohhhh

You are fine then

[smoky frigate]

well then you're golden

[steep creek]

I think laptop will be much easier to run

[wheat plume]

Wayland fte

[steep creek]

Awesome

[wheat plume]

Wayland is default on Fedora
You'll be grand

[steep creek]

That’s great to hear so fedora on the laptop to try, and desktop uh

[umbral heron]

Ah, nevermind, it's included in Fedora* by default for several years now

[steep creek]

You know I’m not totally against arch but I’m still new at this

[wheat plume]

Arch or Ubuntu

PopOS too maybe

[steep creek]

Then again it can’t be harder than some of my courses so I guess I’ll be up for it

[wheat plume]

PopOS has an iso for Nvidia users you can install

[steep creek]

Very nice

[wheat plume]

Instead of the default iso

[umbral heron]

Mint - it's great for beginners
Ubuntu has some... poor choices let's say, which may be very annoying for beginners

[wheat plume]

^

[steep creek]

I heard snaps are a bit controversies too lol

[wheat plume]

Mint is also dreadfully boring looking

[smoky frigate]

arch is pretty chill once you have set it up, the manual install process is (I think) only there to weed out people who can't follow instructions. but I'd stay away for it as a newb, unless I felt brave

[gentle osprey]

Any monitor geeks in here ?

[umbral heron]

And if you want to try Arch-likes, then go for Manjaro or EndeavourOS

[wheat plume]

• Unmoderated
• Proprietary server
• Large install size
• Don't respect system theme and icons

[steep creek]

I have Ike of those “let’s wing it” moments and right now is definitely one of those, so hm maybe lol

[wheat plume]

Once you get Arch installed
It's wonderful to use 💜

[steep creek]

Doesn’t sound nice

[smoky frigate]

it will bite you but it'll be a learning experience in any case

[wheat plume]

It's fun though

And up to date

No reinstalling needed cause rolling release

[steep creek]

Though is the meme true where you update and it suddenly breaks, or is it a bit exaggerated

[wheat plume]

Yep yep

Flatpak ftw

#FlatpakGang

[umbral heron]

Only if you don't update for several months

[wheat plume]

Xd

[steep creek]

Ah cool lol then shouldn’t be an issue

[wheat plume]

Yeah
Update at most once a week

[steep creek]

Sounds good

[wheat plume]

You don't need to really reboot unless you see a Linux kernel update

[smoky frigate]

semi-exaggerated, I had to manually fix things once in a while, but it's not a minefield like it used to be once upon a time

[wheat plume]

Yeah it's a lot easier to manage these days

[umbral heron]

Arch is good for one thing
If you can fix stuff there, then no Linux distro will be a challenge, maybe except Gentoo

[wheat plume]

The Arch Linux Tweak Tool is a fantastic app made by Erik Dubois that makes managing Arch SO SO SO EASY

So I highly suggest using it

[steep creek]

Will give it a try sure

[umbral heron]

We go straight into /etc with vim

[wheat plume]

Erik is the maintainer for ArcoLinux
They have amazing videos on how to use Arch

[steep creek]

Vim is a certified banger, my prof uses nano but I refuse

[wheat plume]

Never done that to me except the one time I tried to manually update nvidia drivers

[smoky frigate]

long meme but it's worth reading

[steep creek]

Oh actually I think I remember a while ago you mentioned this tweak tool, I was meant to check it but forgot

[wheat plume]

Got to open this in browser xd

[wheat plume]

Yeh I have mentioned it before xd

It's truly amazing

The easiest way to get the tweak tool is to add their ArcoLinux repo to your system
And it'll install and keep it updated

Plus
Their repos package a lot of common software you typically can only get from the AUR

So it's worth having their repos active too

[steep creek]

Aur o yes that’s a big bonus for using arch

[wheat plume]

I'd just say use ArcoLinux
But I dislike all the default shit

[smoky frigate]

if you're a speed freak like me and are never happy below 666 fps then there are repos for that too

[wheat plume]

And their range of iso versions is confusing

[steep creek]

lol unreal

[wheat plume]

I want a 666Hz monitor now xd

[steep creek]

The distro rabbit hole is real

[smoky frigate]

it's only like 2% desktop share but those people are really into it

[wheat plume]

@steep creek
You seem to know a lot already
And you are in the proper mindset that Linux is to be treated differently to Windows

I'm sure you'll absolutely love Linux!

[fair gull]

or its only 2% of desktop market share and the users cant even find the right distro for them

[umbral heron]

In short:
Mint - for smooth and easy intro
Fedora - for smooth and a bit more advanced intro
Manjaro - if you want to try arch but not really
EndeavourOS - if you want to try Arch, but a bit more

[steep creek]

My professor said it’s a really useful skill so I figured it’s nice to just learn now haha

[wheat plume]

Lol
Don't mess with most distros
Stick to mainstream Ubuntu, Pop, Fedora, Arch

[wheat plume]

It is
Especially bash scripting

[steep creek]

Gotcha, thank you cal

[smoky frigate]

man I'm still kinda hopping distros, I try out different ones every couple of months. most consistently I run arch tho

[fair gull]

smh claiming gentoo isnt mainstream

[steep creek]

Anyways I need to head to bed soon, thank you all for the kind help, much appreciated

[fair gull]

or debian

lana making my lenovo t60 cry

[wheat plume]

Debian is so outdated for non server use

For desktop use it's not a good idea

[smoky frigate]

I saw a wild debian running on a commercial advertising display just today actually

[wheat plume]

Especially since you are running outdated versions of Firefox

[steep creek]

He was at intel, said linux was preferred over windows for some internal use

[fair gull]

define outdated

[wheat plume]

Don't use an outdated browser version ever....

[fair gull]

imo ESR firefox is more than ok

[wheat plume]

Yeah
Easier to manage in bulk and free xd

Less hardware requirements too

[astral haven]

usually server stuffs

you usually run them without guis

[wheat plume]

And you don't need a GUI unlike Windows

[steep creek]

Ah in this case actually it was for cad and simulation purposes

[wheat plume]

Oh!!

[astral haven]

the only gui linux distro ive ever seen used professionally is kali lol

[steep creek]

Some custom version of cadence idk really

[wheat plume]

I'm not surprised
Intel have their own distro called Clear Linux

You can freely download it too

[astral haven]

there are others too

[steep creek]

Oh nice

[wheat plume]

Xd

[astral haven]

the xeon phi ran a custom linux

[fair gull]

theres a difference between "outdated" and unsupported btw

especially with ff

[wheat plume]

Don't be that guy

[smoky frigate]

well if you count android I've technically seen more linux distros used professionally, than windows machines

[wheat plume]

:')

And ChromeOS is a Linux distro too

Don't forget that

[astral haven]

thats stretching hardcore

[wheat plume]

LOL

[fair gull]

i have actually run raspbian commercially as a glorified google sheets kiosk mode display

[wheat plume]

O

[astral haven]

i mean on a computer used as a desktop

we have linux signboards all over theplace

[fair gull]

dont think i automated opening anything or such

they manually had to open a desktop shortcut and press f11

[wheat plume]

Xd

[fair gull]

and then stash the keyboard back behind the monitor

[wheat plume]

Lol

[fair gull]

cause i couldnt be arsed for how little they wanted to pay

[astral haven]

fair enough

[wheat plume]

Yeah that's fair

How do you even start the web browser at a specific URL in Fullscreen on Linux?
Maybe a desktop file that runs the command on login?

[fair gull]

chrome os cli args

[wheat plume]

Ah yeah yeah

[fair gull]

one for kiosk mode (no ui just webpage) and one for the url

[wheat plume]

Chrome has a lot of those launch options

I use some for my web apps

[fair gull]

and if youre really smart you setup an auto reload addon first so the page auto refreshes every x minutes

[wheat plume]

Hmmm

[fair gull]

my favorite ever commercial pc use though is entrance displays at supermarkets cause the setup at my local lidl frequently crashes and gets turned off

[wheat plume]

My background apps basically act as an uptime counter :')

[smoky frigate]

recently saw a wild Red Hat in a Rewe this way

[umbral heron]

KDE Connect

[smoky frigate]

RHEL 7 it was I think

[wheat plume]

Yes!!! GOAT software

[fair gull]

well in this case it was win10

[wheat plume]

That explains the frequent crashes

[fair gull]

although when i flew last year i saw really cool linux based netbios boot for the displays at the gate

[fair gull]

not really

[wheat plume]

Most of it though?

:')

[fair gull]

idk id say given how many people use windows daily without crashes thats a no

[astral haven]

its pretty normal for us to run into systems with months of uptime here at my job

[wheat plume]

Fair
It's mostly stable for desktop use

[astral haven]

yep

[fair gull]

even server use windows server is stable (even if garbage)

god i hate win server

[astral haven]

i love it

its insanely stable

[fair gull]

my main gripe is AD

[astral haven]

my main gripe is the print spooler

[fair gull]

oh god

no

[wheat plume]

My main issue is it doesn't have a good shell like bash

[wheat plume]

😅

[fair gull]

it has powershell

[astral haven]

skill issue

[fair gull]

imo powershell is quite good

better than bash id say

[wheat plume]

:') the systax pisses me off though

[umbral heron]

Yeah... no

[astral haven]

and you can install bash if you really want it, but theres really no point

[smoky frigate]

zsh gang

[wheat plume]

YEP

[fair gull]

like scripting wise id rather run powershell on *nix than any shell

[wheat plume]

MacOS is using ZSH default now too!!

[wheat plume]

Wat

??!!

Really

[fair gull]

yes

[astral haven]

powershell is an immensely powerful language

[smoky frigate]

I just installed oh my zsh and could never be bothered to use half the shite it does. but but but! it is very convenient to use, truly modern shell

[fair gull]

bash is nice and all and also simple but purely of how powerful it is powershell wins

it doesnt just have power in the name

power is its game

[wheat plume]

I use OMZSH with powerlevel10k prompt

[fair gull]

im still contemplating using smth else than shell scripts on my linux server for the daily backups

[smoky frigate]

mine's powerline, it's similar but more spartan

[wheat plume]

https://github.com/romkatv/powerlevel10k

[crimson wigeon]

Yes shell scripting is absolutely horrid, so many footguns that you probably won't notice until it's too late

[umbral heron]

I love shell scripting

[fair gull]

my main issue is that its simplicity is its downfall for anything more complex

[smoky frigate]

shell scripting is the only thing my neanderthal brain can grasp

I fixed an bug in code that wouldn't compile ONCE and felt like fucking einstein

[crimson wigeon]

Maybe I should play around with nushell more

Is Rust, so it has to be good!

[wheat plume]

Hmmm.... Isn't that the terminal app that requires an account and Eula agreement?

[crimson wigeon]

No

[wheat plume]

Oh wait
That's Warp ...
My bad

[fair gull]

basically use this for my backups

### Getting a fresh filename
BACKUP_DATE=$(date +'%d-%m-%Y')
BACKUP_TIME=$(date +'%H-%M-%S')
DATE_TIME="${BACKUP_DATE}_${BACKUP_TIME}"

BACKUP_FOLDER="${DATE_TIME}"
BACKUP_TEMP="temp_backup"

DB_BASE="pg_all_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_DB="${DB_BASE}"
BACKUP_DB="${DB_BASE}.zip"

FS_BASE="full_system_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_FS="${FS_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_FS="${FS_BASE}.zip"

MAIL_BASE="mailcow_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_MAIL="${MAIL_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_MAIL="${MAIL_BASE}.zip"

MAIL_VOLUMES_BASE="mailcow_volumes_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_MAIL_VOLUMES="${MAIL_VOLUMES_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_MAIL_VOLUMES="${MAIL_VOLUMES_BASE}.zip"

BW_BASE="bitwarden_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_BW="${BW_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_BW="${BW_BASE}.zip"

CADDY_BASE="caddy_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_CADDY="${CADDY_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_CADDY="${CADDY_BASE}.zip"

SSL_BASE="ssl_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_SSL="${SSL_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_SSL="${SSL_BASE}.zip"

MC_BASE="sai_mc_${DATE_TIME}"
ARCHIVE_MC="${MC_BASE}.tar.gz"
BACKUP_MC="${MC_BASE}.zip"

ENC_PW="nicetrynerds"
#ZIP_CMD="zip --encrypt -P ${ENC_PW}"
ZIP_CMD="7z a -p${ENC_PW} -tzip -mem=AES256"

enc_folder()
{
    FOLDERNAME=$1
    BACKUPNAME=$2
    TEMP=$3

    # Setup
    cd
    mkdir -p $BACKUP_TEMP/$FOLDERNAME
    chmod -R 700 $BACKUP_TEMP

    # Sync data so changes dont interrupt
    rsync -avz $FOLDERNAME/ $BACKUP_TEMP/$FOLDERNAME/
    cd $BACKUP_TEMP

    # First we tar to archive all metadata
    tar -cvpzf $TEMP ./$FOLDERNAME
    chmod 700 $TEMP

    # Now we zip to encrypt
    $ZIP_CMD $BACKUPNAME $TEMP
    chmod 700 $BACKUPNAME

    # Move to the backup folder
    mv $BACKUPNAME /$BACKUP_FOLDER/$BACKUPNAME

    # Cleanup
    cd
    rm -rf $BACKUP_TEMP
}

### Backup Section ###

## Setup ##
mkdir /$BACKUP_FOLDER
chmod 700 /$BACKUP_FOLDER

## Backup PGSQL ##
sudo -u postgres pg_dumpall > $ARCHIVE_DB
echo $ZIP_CMD
$ZIP_CMD $BACKUP_DB $ARCHIVE_DB
chmod 700 $BACKUP_DB
mv $BACKUP_DB /$BACKUP_FOLDER/$BACKUP_DB
rm $ARCHIVE_DB

## Backup Thong and its Volumes ##
enc_folder /home/your/path $BACKUP_MAIL $ARCHIVE_MAIL
enc_folder /var/lib/docker/volumes $BACKUP_MAIL_VOLUMES $ARCHIVE_MAIL_VOLUMES

## Backup Thing ##
enc_folder /home/more/path $BACKUP_BW $ARCHIVE_BW

## Backup SSL ##
enc_folder /var/lib/caddy/.local/share/caddy/certificates $BACKUP_SSL $ARCHIVE_SSL

## Backup Caddy ##
enc_folder /etc/caddy $BACKUP_CADDY $ARCHIVE_CADDY

## That ##
enc_folder /home/my/path $BACKUP_MC $ARCHIVE_MC

## Backup Full System ##
cd / # THIS CD IS IMPORTANT THE FOLLOWING LONG COMMAND IS RUN FROM /
tar -cvpzf /$BACKUP_FOLDER/$ARCHIVE_FS \
--exclude=/$BACKUP_FOLDER/*.* \
--exclude=/home/od/user \
--exclude=/proc \
--exclude=/tmp \
--exclude=/mnt \
--exclude=/dev \
--exclude=/sys \
--exclude=/run \
--exclude=/media \
--exclude=/var/cache/apt/archives \
--exclude=/usr/src/linux-headers* \
--exclude=/home/*/.gvfs \
--exclude=/home/*/.cache \
--exclude=/home/*/.local/share/Trash /

cd /$BACKUP_FOLDER
chmod 700 $ARCHIVE_FS

$ZIP_CMD $BACKUP_FS $ARCHIVE_FS
chmod 700 $BACKUP_FS

rm $ARCHIVE_FS

### Upload Backup to Google ###
rclone copy /$BACKUP_FOLDER Backup:/$BACKUP_FOLDER

rm -rf /$BACKUP_FOLDER

### Cleanup old backups ###
rclone delete --drive-use-trash=false --min-age 3d Backup:/
rclone rmdirs --drive-use-trash=false Backup:/

[smoky frigate]

what's one step above shell scripting, python?

[fair gull]

and powershell can do all that with less

[fair gull]

any interpreted language

[smoky frigate]

rewrite it in BASIC then

[fair gull]

nope

[astral haven]

basic is shell right?

[smoky frigate]

if you're on a c64 I guess

[fair gull]

i should say any modern interpreted language is better than shell

[astral haven]

I wonder if anyone has made basic that boots on a modern x86 system

[wheat plume]

That would be pointless but very fun

[fair gull]

you mean like https://github.com/xlar54/OS64

[wheat plume]

Oh xs

Damn

[astral haven]

oh god
thats another level of abstraction tho :/

[fair gull]

i mean ill take baremetal HLE of C64

[astral haven]

agreed

[fair gull]

but just take https://github.com/cirosantilli/x86-bare-metal-examples and then implement basic in one of them

whats your bet on this being a functioning backup of the caddy config

[smoky frigate]

this is powerline, what I use. I have no idea what it can do, I think it just looks neat and sort of spartan

[fair gull]

for macos zsh i just use starship

https://starship.rs/

might even set it up for powershell

[smoky frigate]

man there are a lot of these prompts

[fair gull]

the main nice thing is that it natively shows the branch and version in the prompt if im in a git repo

and also a small icon of the language

[astral haven]

I just realized theres no .ip TLD
come on

[fair gull]

just get a .juniper sld

[astral haven]

what

[fair gull]

juniper has their own tld so just ask them to give you an sld under it

[astral haven]

whaaaa

why tf do they use mist.com then?

mist.juniper would be so cool

[fair gull]

i usually suspect that those company tlds are for internal stuff

[astral haven]

"the .juniper gTLD registry will be operated in a centralised manner with a restrictive registration policy. Registration of domain names will only be available to Juniper, at this stage, which will provide added consumer trust that .juniper domain names are trustworthy. As .juniper domain names are subject to registration standards, policies and procedures under Juniper's control, this eliminates the possibility of malicious conduct within the .juniper domain space;"

[fair gull]

yeah basically the same as .apple or .lidl or abc or .aol

lots of those tlds since the gTLD program

just scroll through this and youll find the oddest things https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt

[astral haven]

experience.apple

newsroom.apple

[fair gull]

.LAMBORGHINI

[astral haven]

lol

i also like how they have to specify the actual use

[fair gull]

.moe the weeb tld

[astral haven]

oh my god thats the actual intended purpose

[fair gull]

no shit lol

[astral haven]

idk it could have been a recent country who didnt like the 2 letter options available

[fair gull]

lol no

[astral haven]

tuvalu rubbing their hands together

[fair gull]

given that over half the iso 3166 codes are free

id highly doubt it

[astral haven]

"In 2014, Amazon acquired Twitch for $1 billion, becoming the first .tv website to achieve unicorn status. The government of Tuvalu subsequently renegotiated its contract with Verisign, resulting in an increase in yearly payments to Tuvalu from $2.2 million to $5 million, a 1/12th of the nation's annual gross national income (GNI) at the time.[9]"

[fair gull]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2 has a table

mostly free space in the 2 letter country codes

[astral haven]

noone wanted .x lol

IP is free 😦

[fair gull]

so scrap up the money for the gtld application (anyone can apply) and build the necessary infrastructure to host the root zone for it

then sell domains

also apply for the x tld and sell to elon

[astral haven]

im lazy, i want someone to do it for me
and im pretty sure its reserved for countries in general

[fair gull]

gtlds?

[astral haven]

the 2 letters

[fair gull]

or cctlds

well time to become a country

[astral haven]

im more likely to try to get .ben for carmon.ben

[reef patrol]

inb4 is . sen a TLD 😄

[astral haven]

.en is

oh wait no oops

i was thinking .es

hmm did google call it adSense so they could get the ads tld?

[astral haven]

that one could probably make a profit unlike .ip

[teal blade]

Can i set different rapid trigger sensitivities per key

like wasd at .15

my e key at 0.4

and stuff like that

[lyric hatch]

Yerp

[teal blade]

how do i do that

[lyric hatch]

In the wootility software

https://help.wooting.io/article/102-how-to-set-up-rapid-trigger

[teal blade]

but thats to enable and disable rapid trigger for some keys

i want them all enableed but differrennt rapid trigger sensitivties

[lyric hatch]

Scroll down a bit

[teal blade]

yeah but see how it says "allows you to set which keys have rapid trigger"

i want them all to have rapidd trigger

but different rapid trigger sensitivities

[lyric hatch]

You just have to back out and select the keys you want with a separate actuation setting selected

Here's a video of tenz setting up his profile https://youtu.be/qaX76b0aM_w

Just do this but select all the keys you want

[void jackal]

is the wooting 60he+ pre-lubbed?

[lyric hatch]

Yes

[whole axle]

best budget monitor for esports?

[umbral heron]

Samsung Odyssey G4? Pretty good 1080p240 monitor with IPS

[whole axle]

hows the colors?

[umbral heron]

It's IPS, so from the get go colors better than on VA or TN
But they're very nice in person, way better than on my old LG IPS231P

[whole axle]

bet bet

also i have amd card will it work good with that

[umbral heron]

Sure, DP or HDMI cable and you're god to go

[whole axle]

bet bet

[whole axle]

27 or 24 inch

[umbral heron]

I've got 25" one

[raw zephyr]

I like my 27 inch 1440p

[whole axle]

hrz?

[raw zephyr]

360

[whole axle]

asus one?

[raw zephyr]

Yes, PG27AQN

[whole axle]

nice

i wouldve gotten it if oled didnt come out

[raw zephyr]

I didn't want to get the "first gen OLEDs", was kinda worried about burn in

[whole axle]

fair

[fair gull]

idk if youtube is broken or if this is the worst A/B test ever

(and yes i am watching a full fledged video rn)

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

r/youtube is already seething with hate and already made chrome extensions and js scripts to revert the experiment

[reef patrol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RPNoCi0FxKM

[daring steeple]

the only issue with oleds atm is image retention

[fair gull]

yeah i saw that where someone called a helpdesk and injected like baby crying sounds to make the situation a bit more like uncomfortable for the helpdesk person and she was slightly sobbing so that the helpdesk person is more inclined to help and just wants to get over with the situation

crazy how easy it is to socially engineer big companies helpdesks into password resets

[reef patrol]

[fair gull]

oh and this cellphone provider one is basically also the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7scxvKQOo

a lot of trying to put on pressure and circumstances

at the end she just gets his cellphone account basically lol

misremembered this one

[halcyon moss]

yeah thats a classic 😱

[fair gull]

this new yt layout screws with my years of muscle memory and ingrained layout knowledge

[umbral heron]

Hm... It now looks very similar to... some other video hosting websites

[fair gull]

yeah well not just that... it downgrades the comments to mobile and the video suggestions are just youtubes garbage home page layout

except that hiding shorts on home doesnt hide em in the suggestions

[reef patrol]

Nothing changed here, except YT's increasingly aggressive attempts to block adblocking on shorts.

[cursive summit]

block adblocking on shorts
Ah, and nothing of value was lost

[cursive summit]

Ah another washed up CS ex-pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwtPrG14uQk

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/amd-teases-their-ryzen-9000-series-with-new-chipset-drivers/

2 more months for the good shit

Highly unlikely Nvidia will suddenly announce Blackwell innit?

Seems AMD will do Ryzen 9000 and RDNA4 hopefully, Intel maybe Intel 15th gen and Battlemage?

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/intel-reportedly-plans-to-launch-arc-battlemage-gpus-before-the-holidays-second-gen-arc-prepares-for-takeoff-this-fall

[fresh storm]

2 months till 9000 series comes out?

[cursive summit]

*Gets announced

[fresh storm]

Oh

Well good

Just bought a 7800x3d 😭

[umbral heron]

Maybe it's time to upgrade to 5800x3d

[fresh storm]

Hows that a upgrade 😭

[cursive summit]

They were talking about their own rig

[fresh storm]

Oh

[umbral heron]

From 3600X it is

[fresh storm]

Ofc

[umbral heron]

Imma ride that B450 till it dies

[fresh storm]

Hanging on by dear life (and bios updates)

[cursive summit]

Not clever really

If I had to suggest, when Granite Ridge comes out, get a cheap AM5, some DDR5 sticks and the newest 6-core

R5 9600 will prolly be faster than the 7800X3D

[fresh storm]

More expensive?

and no 3d cache

[cursive summit]

What

6 core always retails between 200-250$

3D cache isn't as great as you think it is

[fresh storm]

True

[fresh storm]

Not bad

[cursive summit]

Just sheer IPC improvements will make up the lack of 3Dcache

[fresh storm]

Well i hope thats the case

[umbral heron]

Nah, I don't play that much games on PC lately, nowadays I mostly play on Deck and PS2
And 3600X+6700XT is more than enough to run everything in 1080p for now, and with 5800X3D it will be enough for foreseeable future

[cursive summit]

.. PS2?

[fresh storm]

Wait didnt amd talk about 8000 series x3d chips or sth?

[cursive summit]

They did not

[fresh storm]

Dang it

[cursive summit]

Next gen X3Ds aren't out until next year according to reports

[fresh storm]

5700x and 5800x are more budget

[cursive summit]

Non-X3D first, then half a year or so later X3D

[fresh storm]

Damn

[umbral heron]

Pinkstation #🎮│game message

[fresh storm]

So 8000 series is dead

Basically

[cursive summit]

Cal but why lol

Deck can prolly emu PS2 really well

I still have a PCSX2 client lel, hadn't used it for a while

[cursive summit]

What do you mean by 8000 series

[fresh storm]

Like 8700g and allat

[cursive summit]

AMD is skipping 8000 numbering for the desktop stack by reports and naming them 9000

[umbral heron]

Sure can
I dunno... It's just something else for me when played on real hardware
For similar reason I have a shelf full of manga and not e-reader filled with them

[cursive summit]

8000 series isn't dead by any means, they are APUs with built in fairly capable iGPUs

[fresh storm]

Ohh

[umbral heron]

I will still have to build some 16-core or something + lots of RAM PC for work

[fresh storm]

Kinda pointless tho

[cursive summit]

Not pointless at all

[fresh storm]

Unless you have 💰

[cursive summit]

That's the whole point, those CPUs are for people that don't have cash or don't need GPUs

[fresh storm]

If your on a budget a 12100f and 1650 do the same thing

[cursive summit]

GPUs are massive, and just a simple CPU fits into a tiny NUC

[fresh storm]

For less

[ashen spindle]

8000 series is mostly for laptops and embedded systems

[fresh storm]

Yeah i guess so

Space wise its good

Wattage/price isnt as good

[cursive summit]

That makes sense love, I hope you enjoy yourself

Can I send you a box set of Kanojo Okarishimasu mangas?

[umbral heron]

Please don't

[cursive summit]

Expected reaction

[umbral heron]

For now... I need to get another Kallax

[reef patrol]

Seems like a waste of depth. Get Billy shelves instead.

[fair gull]

oh no they are speaking ikea

[umbral heron]

Oh wow
Billy would actually be way better for my room... and cheaper
Thanks

[ashen spindle]

Thought it looks ai generated but no those are real letters it’s just polish

[fair gull]

seeing citrus collection

crying that i had to give mine away despite having all the limited editions with extra content booklets

[reef patrol]

They're still a little TOO deep for Manga sized books, but it's much better than the Kallax for sure.
What I do is put empty catfood boxes behind, so I don't accidentally push them in too far into the shelf.

[cursive summit]

Catfood boxes?

What's a catfood box

I hope you aren't feeding your cat friskies or something like that

[reef patrol]

Cardboard boxes that used to house cat food, vex

These boxes are a bit too much, but I'll be replacing them soon. Still beats having them sink into the shelf.

[cursive summit]

Donald Duck

Why is that such a Mansen thing to do

[reef patrol]

Donald Duck comics are a staple of growing up in Scandinavia in the 90s and 2000s

[cursive summit]

Scandinavia

Look, I'm not saying you are wrong, but I think the other 3 would disagree with that assessment

[reef patrol]

I know plenty of folks from Norway and Sweden with similar collections.

[cursive summit]

Meh I used to buy Donald Duck magazines way back in my childhood years

[reef patrol]

Also what fourth* country are you thinking of? There's only 3 in total 😄

[cursive summit]

I had what were they called.. mega books?

Like supersized donald duck magazines

Really small but really thick

I wonder where they are, prolly got trashed

[reef patrol]

I lost my childhood collection in a barn fire some years back, so I've been carefully rebuilding it from second hand bookstores.

[fair gull]

leave out the in Scandinavia and its still accurate

donald duck and everything that sprang from it are prob one of the biggest influences to anyone from that time

be it tv shows or the books

[hushed vine]

For the boomers indeed, but still I'm glad that I did not grow up with Fortnite, I'm in the middle

[steep creek]

this is a banger lotion

[fair gull]

im... a boomer?

[marsh glade]

If you ain't a zoomer, you a boomer

Fax no printer cap fr fr ong

[steep creek]

no modem even

[hushed vine]

Is there an exact age range for that? Well technically actually not, for me at least but I lay have the wrong definition, for me boomers are people still stuck in time with clothes technology etc

[fair gull]

the first sentence i understand... the second sentence i have no idea what it means

[hushed vine]

So you actually still can be one, regarding my definition of it

[fair gull]

so im not a boomer

phew

[marsh glade]

Post WWII "the world ain't fucked so let's fuck" generation

[fair gull]

just millenial things

[steep creek]

i was born in 01 almost 02, i guess that is gen z

[fair gull]

1901?

jesus

youre old

[cursive summit]

Tony iirc by some calculations you are potentially gen Z

[steep creek]

lol 2001

[fair gull]

people born 2000 and after arent real

[cursive summit]

Last I checked Gen Z starts at 1997

[hushed vine]

Are you not 70yo? 👴🤔

[steep creek]

im a simulation

[fair gull]

phew im a millenial

[cursive summit]

Imagine getting lumped with Gen Z-ers, couldn't be me

Can I into millennials please?

[fair gull]

wait that means my girlfriend is from genz..... that explains why i never understand her memes and language

[hushed vine]

That must hurt on your company revenue. A good 20% just doesn't exist anymore I would guess 😂😂😂

[hushed vine]

Stay where you are

[cursive summit]

I have no interest being gen Z

[fair gull]

printer no fax?

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/holes-grandpa-thats-too-damn-bad-gif-15698581

[fair gull]

or whatever mark said

[hushed vine]

I have bad news for you

You will always be 🫥

[umbral heron]

To be fair I have grown up with stuff that kid in US had in 80s/90s, so when coming by culture and not by date I'm not genz

[fair gull]

ok mr i invented dialup

[hushed vine]

Well I grew up with some siblings stuff that are like 10yo older and some of my generation so I'm a mix?

[cursive summit]

I unironically have no clue how old you are

[fair gull]

calslock is like 14

barely over discord ToS age

[cursive summit]

Sounds about right

[fair gull]

that was a joke

[cursive summit]

That was also a joke

[steep creek]

lol

[cursive summit]

13 sounds about right

[hushed vine]

This wasn't a joke

[wheat plume]

"That was a joke
Haha
Fat chance

Anyway this cake is great
It's so delicious and moist"
GLaDOS

[hushed vine]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[umbral heron]

Am 26, coming from 1998

[cursive summit]

Old

[steep creek]

eh i have a few students double cals' age in my class lol, they say everyone in their 20s are young

[umbral heron]

Still, 98 kids in US played PS2/PS3s and Xboxes in their childhoods
I had clone of a clone of a NES and Pentium III PC
Same with CDs/DVDs vs my box of cassette and VHS tapes

[cursive summit]

I had a PSX and a PS2, then a PSP

I had barely heard of PS3 cause that had virtually no presence

No clue what games that has

Xbox 360 was big in EU though

[umbral heron]

PS3 had Killzone and that Harry Potter game where you could wave with Move controller

[hushed vine]

Had one of these beauties

[cursive summit]

Did it red ring of death?

[old marlin]

by the time the ps3 and xbox came around I was already mainly on pc

[umbral heron]

I had P3 PC which is already long gone
When I was 6 I got new one, with Sempron 3000+ and Radeon 9550, this one is in my rack cabinet and is still working

[hushed vine]

No, mine was perfect

[dense dock]

I think this kinda fits here, cuz I’m lost

[ashen spindle]

Same, I’m lost as to what you mean

[frozen ingot]

cursed rshift

[dense dock]

The stift key You want me to move doesn’t fit there

[rough patrol]

take the shift at the very top right

that one should go on the left of your kb

[umbral heron]

How come? It's 2.75u Shift, just like on ANSI

[rough patrol]

no its 1.25

the left shift

[umbral heron]

Ah, ok, I see

Brainfart

[reef patrol]

If only we had taken the foresight to provide illustrations in a guide...that was somehow quick to read

[dense dock]

Ty ty, guess brain imploded when trying haha

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

Im not sure if the * next to the enter is right

[reef patrol]

https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-quickstart#installing-keycaps
Quick way to find out

[dense dock]

Looking at my other keyboard it’s correct

[ashen spindle]

Fair enough then, if it doesn’t match easy to change whatever the key puts out

[dense dock]

Yeah, and ain’t hard to remove and swap place if something would be wrong

[smoky fractal]

looks good now

[hushed vine]

Looks very clean

[cursive summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ztpM70jEw

Bit of a weird matchup

Don't really get it other than "here's a bunch of X3Ds"

Not sure why they are testing at 1080p

1440p is very much the new standard and 4K is becoming relevant

[frozen ingot]

1440p gang

[cursive summit]

I get that 1080p is like, CPU bottleneck area or something

But for relevance, 1440p just makes sense

[ashen spindle]

Not at all

If you compare clearly different cpus at a point where they perform the same there’s no point

And if they do perform differently then it’s the same as at 1080p just smaller numbers

[cursive summit]

I also remember that 7800X3D should perform better than the 7950X3D