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final flame
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where driving is far less of a common thing because public transport and walking doesn't suck

astral haven
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the other problem with the apple dongle is how insanely fragile it is

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again fine for a hifi system where you never move it

final flame
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take care of things well, and reinforce the dongle
last way longer

astral haven
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but put it in a pocket and mine died after a month the first time

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like sure if you know to baby it itll be fine, but the previous apple headphones with the same weak cable were less of a problem because there wasnt a large connector right there an inch away

wheat plume
final flame
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.ass subtitles are indeed a thing
and I'd say they're one of the most conventional and give the most creative leeway

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you can do a lot with them

gusty kiln
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FiiO releases products so often

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apple dongle on steroids

final flame
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they look cool

crimson wigeon
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Yeah I was mindblown when I saw subtitles translating the writing on things and having it line up perfectly, ass is dark sorcery

fierce imp
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Over yalls personal prefrence, Lekker60's or Lekker45's, Performance and sound wise

crisp granite
fierce imp
crisp granite
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KS-20 is what the lekkers are based on, same molds iirc
so same applies

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just weighting

fierce imp
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ahh

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thank you

fair gull
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yes

chilly cloud
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i dont think id go lighter

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theres the threshold of the keys not moving when u lightly rest ur fingers on them

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and idk if at 45 thatd still be the case for me

wheat plume
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oh gosh, its all over the place now .-.

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I had to do this but with dice for Overwatch

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.-.

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10 times in a row and if you get one wrong you need to do another set of 10

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worst captcha ever .-.

ashen spindle
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overwatch needs you to complete captchas

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wat

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oh for the login?

wheat plume
ashen spindle
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so for blizzard account not overwatch

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was thinking did they add captcha before you play ranked lmao

final flame
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This cable would look so damn nice if it was silver

wheat plume
ashen spindle
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sounds good ngl

cursive summit
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What's a bnet

reef patrol
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Battle Net

cursive summit
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And why would I need one thonk

reef patrol
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You know. The thing Blizzard has had since... Diablo 1.

cursive summit
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What if I hadn't really played anything Blizzard in my short life havo

wheat plume
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.....worst use of QR codes ever

ashen spindle
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Is it though

wheat plume
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yes

ashen spindle
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But now you never need to change the paper for a product

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Price change won’t mean you throw away paper now

cursive summit
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You take a scanner with you, scan the item as you go and have a fast checkout

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Very very easy

pale sigil
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Here we have scanners you carry around but you scan the products code not this.

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So I agree it's stupid

cursive summit
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Well you can do it with either QR or bar codes

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So I don't really have an issue with this

pale sigil
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Just use the bar code on the product....

ashen spindle
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You don’t want people to take out stuff and put it back all the time

pale sigil
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Just seems so stupid

wheat plume
ashen spindle
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I just don’t see how it’s stupid especially when as you say stores already give you a scanner

wheat plume
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its a petrol station shop xd

ashen spindle
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Still fail to see how it’s stupid or a bad use of qr codes

cursive summit
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I will take quin's side

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Instead of having to reprint labels, you can just update an online page

cursive summit
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Also saves paper tbf

old marlin
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they tend to use digital ones anyways

cursive summit
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This is where those AR glasses would be insane

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Just display a holo image real time of the product page n price

old marlin
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how to make a simple issue wayyyy too complicated

ashen spindle
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I can see arguments against it but can also be useful so you just add it to your cart and instantly know how much your total is etc.

wheat plume
old marlin
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most big chains do that

cursive summit
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Ain't that expensive

old marlin
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not really

cursive summit
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N electronic waste?

ashen spindle
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it just seems extremely far from "worst use of QR codes ever"

old marlin
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vs having customers use handheld scanners?

wheat plume
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ok ok.... Most annoying use of QR codes ever*

old marlin
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I mean you could prob find a worse use

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but it is pretty anti consumer

ashen spindle
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I can see cases where it makes it easier, make qr code on an eink with price or so

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but far from the most negative of any kind

cursive summit
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So, don't those e-ink devices like burn in or something?

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Wasn't that one of the drawbacks of the tech

wheat plume
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ah yes, the reset process for a smartbulb

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give yourself an epileptic seizure to reset the bulb!

ashen spindle
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except no case of epilepsy would get triggered by that duration

wheat plume
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hmm I guess not

crimson wigeon
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That's still ludicrous why not have say a reset button oh wait that would add 2 cents to the cost

ashen spindle
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well smartbulb are stupid for almost every usecase

rough osprey
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voice activated lights best

reef patrol
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The ones I have are like three quick on off and one long for 6 seconds or something.

misty saffron
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mine you just had to power cycle 4 times in a row

wheat plume
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This makes me appreciate the reset process for the Google Nest Mini a lot more

Resetting that only requires you to turn off the mic and hold down on the top for 30 seconds

Super fast

rough osprey
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30s??

wheat plume
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Yes

misty saffron
wheat plume
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10 seconds for it to ask you to confirm the reset
And 20 more to do it

misty saffron
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also, may not be able to access the reset button due to how incandescent bulbs weren’t meant to have buttons

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and poking around next to a bulb socket can be quite shocking

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(yes the outer contact pad is meant to be neutral, but “meant” is the keyword)

mild dome
# wheat plume .....worst use of QR codes ever

When the upgrade is a downgrade

My local stores have started using small Eink displays for price changes. Not sure how sustainable it is vs paper, but it seems better then forcing customers to QR scan everthing

halcyon moss
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Scanning qr codes to see the price sounds very illegal

pale sigil
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What's up with wifi lights

halcyon moss
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Besides that lights have no right to be a wifi device?
It uses more power, is less stable, hogs your wifi, is an attack vector, requires all kinds of weird phone apps

digital cliff
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is also annoying to use because turning on a light takes you a minute to open your phone, find the app, wait for it to connect, turn it on

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...unless you get one of them buttons you can mount on your wall but at that point you can do it via RF anyway

halcyon moss
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If You want a smartlight just get a zigbee one

reef patrol
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For having the kind of control that it offers*

halcyon moss
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Zigbee

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Hue, Ikea, those

reef patrol
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You're still polluting the same band

halcyon moss
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But no where near as much

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And it's mesh

digital cliff
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and you're not on the internet with your lights to begin with

reef patrol
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I mean... you kind of are.

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Because the controller will still be online.

digital cliff
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didn't think of that

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I don't have a controller because i just have one light that's directly paired to the button

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RF thing

halcyon moss
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Zigbee can have a controller, and is recommended, but can also be directly paired with switches

digital cliff
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non-zigbee because the zigbee ones were +10€ for some reason so mine's a proprietary RF whatever

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went for the cost-savings because i knew I'd never have anything except the one light

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I don't have a need to control or automate them, just a button on the wall is enough for my usecase

cloud tulip
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Why is the cpu in my laptop at 78 degrees Celsius 💀

cursive summit
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ashen spindle
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its not overheating so unless your fan is super loud and dusty it doesnt matter

cursive summit
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Laptops do get toasty as hell

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80 is around the temperature where fans usually ramp up hard

cursive summit
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Ngl though the price of the GRE is insane now

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800XT pricing, if tweaked, way better performance not far from 900XT

thick elk
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I mostly just treat modern cpu's as such, as long as they are not throttling you are in the green.
Setting fan curves on an intel cpu to only start the ramp-up at 70-75c is perfectly fine.

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Another thing would be throttling is to some extend fine, I'd rather have some performance drop than have the fans ramp up to 100%

vague needle
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one thing to consider is that temperature affects voltage needed for stability and voltage affects long term degradation of the silicon and the voltage it requires for a given frequency to be stable

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so keeping your computer cooler, on average, will mean it lasts longer, on average, at a given frequency and voltage

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but the range being discussed is longer than the likely lifetime the CPU will be used in your computer

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so i never think about it. if you were to keep a processor for 10-12 years, though, it would be a consideration whether its average temperature were 60C or 70C

ashen spindle
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not really needed for modern cpus anymore either, they are made to endure that easily

vague needle
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that they are made to run at X temperature for Y lifetime, but doesnt state Y lifetime length

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they are made to endure tjmax for their intended life span

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but the life span considerations aren't given

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what if it's 10 years but if you cooled it down 5C more average peak, it was 15 years

stuck surge
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you arent going to keep cpu for more than a few years

rough osprey
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how is the apple music webplayer still better then the windows app :(

pale sigil
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People use music players?

cursive summit
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What's a music player

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You mean, YouTube? havo

umbral heron
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Eeee...

reef patrol
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Youtube is a music player.

cursive summit
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It is duck_sip

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There's nothing you could say that could prove otherwise

umbral heron
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Strawberry Player, my beloved k_kleeheart 🍓

rough osprey
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dont like having youtube open the whole time

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so streaming services kinda better

cursive summit
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I refuse to pay for any services so youtube is my entertainment hub

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Music and videos

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I also fail to notice any difference between lossy and lossless recordings so stuff like Tidal are just worthless

rough osprey
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youtube quality seems fine

umbral heron
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Tidal is great, €2 for 2 months

rough osprey
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are they still doing that

cursive summit
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I also see no value in it

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Plenty of songs of mine that don't exist in streaming services

rough osprey
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the annoying thing with music video is all the extra stuff in it

cursive summit
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You must have some incredibly analitical ears to hear lossless

rough osprey
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and the algorithm is also kinda bad if you have it on autoplay

cursive summit
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Cause I can't tell the difference in sound quality between FLAC and MP3 havo

rough osprey
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just playing the same songs everytime

cursive summit
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Tbf that's what I want havo

umbral heron
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YT algorithm is good for like first 10 songs on My Mix playlist or so

cursive summit
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I rarely ever listen to new stuff, I have a massive library of stuff I love to hear, and I'm happy with that

umbral heron
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Later it just goes on with more popular stuff

digital cliff
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I have a local library of stuff I actively listen to and for discovery I generally use YT recommends and last.fm recommends

cursive summit
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Tbf YouTube Music has some underrated curated lists for genres

digital cliff
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streaming services never quite worked for me due to them always missing something I'd like to listen to

cursive summit
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I have found quite a few cool artists from curated lists

digital cliff
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YT is the best for that, but YT I cannot get behind as a music service

cursive summit
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Never let me down

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Not sure what's wrong with YT as a music service

umbral heron
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Constantly trying to sneak some disco polo to my mix octo

digital cliff
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am never sure about YT quality especially with unofficial uploads

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I just sort of use yt as a way to test-drive music and then incorporate it into my local library if I like it enough

digital cliff
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clearly since I use it

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... unless I'm living in some alternate timeline?

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guys? what timeline is this?

reef patrol
halcyon moss
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Does it still have the radio?

digital cliff
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don't think so, not seen such functionality

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I can click on "play your recommendations" and it'll come up with a bunch of shit it thinks I like and play it off of youtube

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that's what I use a lot to discover some new stuff

halcyon moss
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Ah not their own recommendation radio playet anymore

digital cliff
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yeah I've only been using it a year or so so dunno about the old functionality

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it seems to do what I want it to do which is track my music, as well as provide me with recommendations that work out at least some of the time so I'm happy 👍

umbral heron
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Windows player app requires to buy HEVC decoder addon to h265 play videos SilvFacePalm

reef patrol
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Yep. I've ranted about this change before.

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Windows wont read "apple" photos or movies without paying any longer.

digital cliff
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wow that's kinda really crappy and a way to make users hate you

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guess microsoft is no stranger to that last part duck_sip

reef patrol
marsh glade
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Gunna all be chromeOS soon enough

reef patrol
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You can still download the free codec. But Windows won't let you install it.

Literally a paywall on prior free content.

marsh glade
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That's what the zoomers use at school

reef patrol
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Or worse. SteamOS

latent mural
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is chromeOS only for chromebooks

reef patrol
vague needle
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Using anything other than VLC on any OS 😵‍💫

umbral heron
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mpv pepeyes

halcyon moss
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Train a whole generation to use.... Ipads

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This is already quite visible. I once had an intern who couldn't type for shit, but was super fast on phone.

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Close to hunt and pecking lol. And that guy wanted to be a programmer

umbral heron
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Our new guy was confused about what VGA cable was pepecry

halcyon moss
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Like floppies and cd's :p

umbral heron
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We're still running HP g8 and g9 racks, those still use VGA

thick elk
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At my office we also still use VGA, we use desktops and most of them are aging + people are running 3-4 monitors in general, except for me I run 5.

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Monitors are all okay though, most of them 24inch 1080p ips panels.

umbral heron
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I run 3, because integrated Intel graphics supports only up to 3 duck_sip

thick elk
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That's why we use gt 710's / hd 5450's (or whatever rebrand they got) for part of them, also because at the time the igp's only supported 2 display outs

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Cpu wise most of them are a mix of haswell i3's some ivy bridge ones and some skylake pentiums, and a few slightly better / newer systems.
Probably gonna push for replacement but honestly for the most part they do not really slow people down as long as they use an ssd and 16gb ram.

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My system at work runs a R7 260, Ryzen 5 3400G and 32GB ram, basically salvaging what I could from the better options that came available.

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Still not great but works well enough.

halcyon moss
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Ppl cost more money than hardware. If they are waiting on stuff, that's wasted time

thick elk
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Our people are not paid much, but for the most part this slower hardware works surprisingly well on what is mostly considered lighter loads.

cursive summit
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8 gen 3 is so far ahead over A17P?

thick elk
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No one ever really pushes for it either, not having a separate antivirus and keeping the machines clean certainly helps.

cursive summit
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How come there's no natively running Resident Evil 4 on Android

thick elk
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The reason is regular games don't sell well on android, at least they never have.

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Performance was never the reason things did not get ported to android.

sharp badger
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Why would one need to game on a phone?

cursive summit
sharp badger
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Battery life sucks but sure it's interesting to see that phones can do it

thick elk
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It's not just Google not caring, it is failed attempts a decade or so ago that showed these games don't sell.
It's not a technical limitation at all.

steep creek
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guess it makes somewhat sense for apple because they should be able to port stuff to m series macs quite easily then

thick elk
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After all switch level of performance is something phones could have done for ages, but even indie games don't get ported to android because they don't sell.

sharp badger
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I heard some developer stopped making games for mac because of some licensing bs

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Yeah would need to find the video with the dude explaining it but eh drinking a G&T and chilling

crisp granite
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Wish I could have a G&T

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But apparently I shouldn’t be “drinking on the job”

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I only use a band saw and knives

sharp badger
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I've got the Monkey 47 atm.

thick elk
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Among employees?

sharp badger
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Yeah probably not developing for consoles

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Sales for them of the ''niche'' game might be affecting it too

umbral heron
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0.02%? duck_sip

sharp badger
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Yuh

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Macbooks are quite good tbh.

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Would like a powerful laptop because i've been traveling quite a lot recently

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Was thinking of the handhelds but they are just not there yet

cursive summit
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Apple will forever be overrated and not something you should ever buy duck_sip

umbral heron
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I'm fine with ThinkPad X270 and Steam Deck combo for travelling really

sharp badger
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Bought a Ipad mini 2 and that's the recent Apple product i've bought lol

cursive summit
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I wish I could somehow block out Apple ads from my life cause they are annoying

frozen ingot
steep creek
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Yeah I’d have to find a new windows laptop manufacturer to buy from, maybe commit sin and get a s76 laptop and slap windows on it 😂

umbral heron
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Same, that's why it's X270 and not something newer dogekek

frozen ingot
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got hit with the obsolescence stick last night though, youtube no longer works on it

ashen spindle
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noo please support lenovo

sharp badger
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Yeah it's not supported anymore so

steep creek
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Some of my friends at university just stick with their Mac’s. Use parallels to use required windows / Linux only software

ashen spindle
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they are the ones that always leak server cpus and I want that to continue so please support lenovo so they stay afloat dogekek

steep creek
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haha

sharp badger
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Framework with X3D chip would probably be my go to atm. if it would be available

thick elk
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Not had too much trouble with lenovo personally. Granted it has been a while since I owned lenovo hardware.

umbral heron
steep creek
umbral heron
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And Linux has the best printer stack thanks to Apple (k_kleeheart cups)

thick elk
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I would say everyone has a better printer stack than windows thanks to cups.

umbral heron
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Pretty much havo

wheat plume
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Cups is Apple?!

thick elk
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Originally yea

umbral heron
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Apple has quite a lot of open-source projects actually

steep creek
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Oh yeah cups is fantastic

thick elk
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Actually would not go that far, printer stacks are no rocket science, just a lot have been suffering through the way it is handled in Windows.

steep creek
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I’m just comparing it to windows, maybe that’s why I think so highly of it haha

umbral heron
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Yeah, but still, they've contributed quite a lot for LLVM and containerd for example

wheat plume
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O o

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Guess that makes sense since Apple make it possible to have a Windows install inside MacOS relatively easily

thick elk
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Not to mention KHTML they developed into webkit and eventually spawned chrome, this covers everything but firefox now.

wheat plume
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Khtml sounds like a KDE project

umbral heron
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Well... It was

wheat plume
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Oh

sharp badger
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Been using Firefox for soo long sucks that some stuff is not supported on it also still have the delay on ublock also sometimes it just feel slow?

misty saffron
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oh and yeah

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huh

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why does the board have to be stiff

umbral heron
misty saffron
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i guess deleting messages is also an option

fresh raft
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Hi guys, do i put this thing onto my keyboard?

ashen spindle
terse garnet
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You have to unscrew the plate and take out the silicone and then replace it with the foam

fresh raft
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I already put the caps on BlobNervous

terse garnet
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Changes the sound profile

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Its preference which one you use

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The silicone or foam

wheat plume
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Open source vtuber software!

pale sigil
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It doesn't look pretty but it works and I printed it

halcyon moss
mild dome
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Fuck you, that's a Jpeg masquerading as transparent

raw zephyr
ionic drum
reef patrol
reef patrol
steep creek
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It looks so similar to ski glasses

vagrant veldt
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Hello - I looked in the game support zone for a CS2 config for the 100% Wooting - I couldn't find any. Could someone direct me please?

cursive summit
cursive summit
gusty kiln
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New sennheiser open back 👀

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negative bass

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mage 🤮 🤢

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oh different pads make it way better

analog sinew
astral haven
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the vision pro is looking like the highest spec standalone headset yet, its no surprise that people want it

cursive summit
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Insanely overpriced products that sell way too well

ashen spindle
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its als the first thing of something that could be the start of XR not being something for vrchat and gamers

smoky frigate
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direct access to bullying apple users makes this product pretty good in my eyes

astral haven
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how?

terse garnet
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Thanks for this information, this is really useful for my next AirPod purchase 🙏

fickle ore
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Wonder how well quest 3 sold vs vision pro

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Good to have both

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Having apple do a high-end one is also great boon for VR users

astral haven
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it aint great

fickle ore
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quest 2 outselling 3 just tells me casuals are going for VR now and the way is up

astral haven
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reread it

fickle ore
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yeah not very big numbers back then compared to apple

astral haven
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it peaked back in 2021 and has been downhill ever since

fickle ore
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Well thats when everyone in the US got stimulus monies no?

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Economy has been bad since

astral haven
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and the fact that its not been improving in reality is a bad sign for said luxury product

fickle ore
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Yeah dunno why ppl forked for Vision Pro Instead

cloud surge
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Might not be the best place to ask but, has anyone done a wootinghe vs boog75 comparison performence/overall? I want to get one of those but i havent seen anyone do actuation/latency tests on boog75 so idk which is better

astral haven
fickle ore
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Vision Pro sounds better than Quest 3 tho

astral haven
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agreed

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disagree but there are definetly fewer of them

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i mean noone is willing to admit they are addicted to facebook but...

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with apple its less embarassing

fickle ore
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With Meta it's easy to count on ppls vanity, same for apple ig

astral haven
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im not ashamed to admit that i was going to buy the vision pro until i heard all the cripple hammers they are applying

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under what world is 720p acceptable for mirroring?

fickle ore
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oof

smoky frigate
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aren't we all a little meta cucked tho

astral haven
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thats nonconsentual tho

analog sinew
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Zuckerberg is the only reptile I do not like

fickle ore
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zuck bjj's

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love the dude

astral haven
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I don't remember who it was but they mentioned the Iphones having a clear all notifications button, but it often is missing
My muscle memory is to swipe them away manually but here's a demonstration of the button being entirely gone

misty saffron
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it’s missing if there are new notifications i think

astral haven
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Yes but what constitutes a new notification, and how do I make all my notifications go away?

misty saffron
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it generally groups new and old notifications separately, the button should be above old notifications

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first question is a good one

astral haven
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I think it has something to do with unlocking my phone, but that was with the phone unlocked

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Here's another fun one

astral haven
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I dismissed all my notifications they don't appear on the lock screen, but I can swipe up to see notifications and there's the clear button now

mint lagoon
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I appreciate the package 🥹

rough osprey
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srgb is so lame

shadow minnow
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These are actually becoming stem exams

analog sinew
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mmh avocado processing unit

analog sinew
old marlin
cursive summit
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Wait, new sennies?

reef patrol
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No mic? no interest.

cursive summit
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Gaming headphones 🤢

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^ about to buy Audeze Maxwell

reef patrol
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Having a built in mic is such a luxury.

cursive summit
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Huh so these are HD600 series upgrades

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That's weird, so where does 660S2 fit in

reef patrol
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If my 373Ds break, I will genuinely be open to buying old, new stock. Just to get a somewhat decent audio with a built in mic 😄

cursive summit
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Oh damn these look beautiful

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Wait so if they are essentially a straight up upgrade over 600 series with better imaging and soundstage, what's the point of 660S2

old marlin
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quite glad that sonovia did not kill them off

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or are these not from the sonovia part

halcyon moss
cursive summit
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Beyer, ew

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Not as interesting as Audeze

old marlin
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Clueless I like neither of their audiophile products

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yea I am on the fence if I wanna get those or the new aune ones

cursive summit
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I was thinking on the Aune ones

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Affordable is a big plus

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But the problem with Sennies is that none of their stuff has good enough soundstage lel

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If they managed to make an affordable headphone with spacious staging, I wonder

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Aune though apparently is extremely detailed which is very pog

raw zephyr
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i think i'm just gonna stick with my hd600

final flame
final flame
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or any measurement done on a actual good rig for that matter, minidsp ears isn't good for this kind of thing

old marlin
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wait

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so the 660s2

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that is sonovia

final flame
#

yea technically

old marlin
#

explains it a bit ig

final flame
#

although I'm sure employees kinda got mixed in the crossfire

final flame
old marlin
#

well

#

there are 2 sennheisers now

final flame
#

not to mention all of the wireless garbage that sennheiser has put out before sonova

old marlin
#

yea but those did not compete in the same segment against itself

#

the 660s2 is looking hella expensive with the 490 pro being a thing

final flame
old marlin
#

not saying it is

#

but they were never designed as audiophile products

#

(as almost all bluetooth headphones)

final flame
#

even the airpod pros are better tuned and that says something

old marlin
#

too bad that that applies to most of said bluetooth headphones

#

airpod pros are like top tier for TWS stuff still

#

due to a lack of competent competition

#

so you also get samsung whatevers

#

and sony whatevers

#

actually idk abotu sony even

final flame
#

I seriously don't understand why it's so hard
you already have dsp in them, use it to your advantage

old marlin
#

afaik the newest IEM TWS thing from them sounds like shit

old marlin
#

which means they conciously fuck their tuning

final flame
#

apple and samsung both doing fine with good tuning
so eh

old marlin
#

not with overears tho giggle

#

also sennheiser still struggled with IEMs back then

final flame
#

if you want to tune for average consumer, make the default a bass boost, and in the app create some good well tuned eqs

#

for most preference curves

#

@old marlin @cursive summit
Haha that treble

old marlin
final flame
old marlin
#

which ones are the producer pads

final flame
#

it's so close to being competitive, the treble is the only issue

#

that subbass extension is so good too

raw zephyr
#

just buy ksc75

solemn remnant
#

you guys don't even listen to music, just look and masturbate at curves

final flame
#

who doesn't like looking at some nice curves

solemn remnant
#

anybody can drive in a straight line, it takes a real driver to handle the curves ;)

final flame
#

we like to see some flat bass and not peaky treble
we don't like to see a bulge in the pants, or maybe you're into that because you're a basshead

old marlin
final flame
solemn remnant
final flame
#

if your woman has a spine like that she might have scoliosis

old marlin
#

ngl

#

makes the ar5000 look mighty tempting to me

cursive summit
#

For comparison

#

Aune does have some weird treble spots

#

Strix Halo can't come any sooner

#

Wccftech still expects a H2 launch but wasn't 2025 the target?

#

Even though Halo is a laptop chip, that thing packs the GPU power of a console, stuff that into a mini-PC NUC and it'd be a killer

ashen spindle
#

They have both been spotted in LLVM patches months ago…

gusty kiln
#

Lol 4070ti super still slower than 7900xt in raster

analog sinew
#

but what about a 407900 xtx tie super titan

ashen spindle
#

Yeah the card exists to sell you 4080 cards

gusty kiln
#

I mean I was mostly going for the 4080S anyway

#

But lmao

raw zephyr
#

buy a 7900xtx

gusty kiln
#

I guess AMD doesn't have to reduce their margins after all on their gpus

#

I would if it wasn't for their idle power issue

#

And I run 3 monitors

raw zephyr
#

oh yeah that would be an issue

#

i only run my pc when i play games so it doesn't bother me really

gusty kiln
#

I almost want to hold out for the rdna4

#

The mid range only gpus

raw zephyr
#

my 7900xtx draws 100w idle, most likely thanks to 360hz monitor

gusty kiln
#

1080 or 1440?

raw zephyr
#

1440p

gusty kiln
#

Sweet, ulmb 2 must be nice

raw zephyr
cobalt cove
ashen spindle
#

Not really

#

Computex is not that far away in gpu timespans

wheat plume
ashen spindle
cursive summit
#

But do you have the latest Radeon drivers, AMD fixed that issue for the n-th time

ashen spindle
#

I mean if it’s 3 360hz screens that doesn’t seem too outlandish

#

If it’s a single screen that’s cursed

zenith silo
#

I have a 240, 165, and 60hz on my 6900xt

#

All 1080p I think it idles around 40-50w iirc

ashen spindle
#

Yeah the idle powerdraw issue was just rdna3

cursive summit
#

Which it seems to still haunt AMD

#

I hope it doesn't transfer to RDNA4

solemn remnant
#

it has already transfered to OUR DNA

zenith silo
balmy vector
ashen spindle
#

If only seen people have it with 3+ screens all high hz now that’s why I’m curious about the setup

umbral heron
halcyon moss
#

I'm still not really convinced by the module system

reef patrol
#

Would be nice to see enterprise at least return to this form.

#

Imagine HP or Lenovo jumping on board to even a semi shared standard for some parts, allowing you to repair them this easily.

umbral heron
#

HP and standards havo

#

They can't even keep the same connectors in rack servers over different generations, let alone agreeing on something with different vendors

reef patrol
#

I said imagine. Never said it would be realistic 😄

umbral heron
#

But yeah, it'd be nice to have some laptop standard, similar to ATX in PCs, even if only in enterprise stuff

#

I guess old Lenovo would be most likely to try something like that

severe phoenix
astral haven
umbral heron
#

It'll be possible to separate Facebook, Messenger and Instagram 👀

#

I love EU k_kleeheart

cursive summit
#

That is disappointing

#

But how

#

Those look like scuffed results

digital cliff
ashen spindle
#

So look at other results and compare

#

And see techpowerup for example is about the same

#

The card exists to push people to get a 4080 instead

cursive summit
#

4080 Super I suppose

#

Since 4080 is still 1200$

ashen spindle
#

Same thing as the non super is not produced anymore

cursive summit
#

Uh, no

#

6000 series isn't produced anymore is it? Still a conversation worth bringing up for mid-highish rigs

#

4080 is like fresh off production, will stay in stock for a while

ashen spindle
#

4080 got axed entirely rdna2 is still getting made for some parts

#

Retailers are not trying to keep that stock around for long and knew of that for a while too

cursive summit
#

How's this any different from just MS-DOS

#

Other than being far more bigger in size

fair gull
#

did my man just remake windows pe

#

but worse

#

god does it looks slow with its text display

raw zephyr
ashen spindle
#

huh that's curious

cursive summit
#

But did you install latest drivers with DDU, hopefully

#

Which node though

#

RT enabled

#

So, doesn't matter

#

Yes, that game shouldn't bother existing

#

30FPS is why that doesn't matter

ashen spindle
#

its nice but 4090 cant run it so I played it without RT

halcyon moss
#

4k

ashen spindle
#

1440p also wasnt great without rt even

#

had to lower settings to get my 144hz

cursive summit
#

When traditional rendering is completely replaced by raytracing, that'll be when I'll consider RTX

gusty kiln
#

Apparently relive is messing with the memory clock as one of the culprit for high idle

raw zephyr
gusty kiln
#

Oh

ashen spindle
#

which driverstack are you using

#

the community one or the one from amd

cursive summit
#

That doesn't look like much for 800$

#

Xoc?

#

Where's the e

reef patrol
#

Cost savings.

cursive summit
#

Ah, shrinkflation

reef patrol
#

[_] // () '|'

#

Thanks for fucking that up, Discord.

gusty kiln
#

I really want a 4080S FE if I doo decide to upgrade

cursive summit
#

I'd defo go AMD cause the value proposition is incredibly in favour of AMD

#

Why, though

ashen spindle
#

wow another age old news lol

cursive summit
#

I was expecting thriple thread and quad thread multithreading eventually

#

We ditching MT completely?

ashen spindle
#

smt4 or whatever is for servers its not relaly the best for desktop

cursive summit
#

Well there's three-way SMT, isn't there?

#

Although how PCs interact with multithreading is really weird, it's almost like it hurts performance half of the time

ashen spindle
#

there is smt4 and smt8888 I dont think smt3 is a thing

cursive summit
#

I remember these leaks way back in the day

#

Thought that 3 way SMT would definitely be a thing eventually

#

But seeing how Intel continues to struggle with their E-cores, perhaps ditching smt isn't the worst thing

ashen spindle
#

you're not getting non power of two scaling for these things

ashen spindle
#

but how do you get that smt3 is coming from a supposed smt4 leak lol

cursive summit
#

Cause MLiD also used to talk about SMT3 back in the day

cursive summit
#

And disabling all E-cores but one in a cluster brings performance improvements

ashen spindle
#

all cpu cores are in a cluster

cursive summit
#

Like 14900K has 4 x 4 clusters of E-cores

#

Disabling 12 cores and leaving 4x1 clusters apparently makes the thing just faster

#

Which is kind of like multithreading I imagine

#

Tbf disabling normal cores has brought performance improvements in the past so maybe it's got nothing to do with SMT

ashen spindle
#

that isnt fixing it when enabled cores share cache

#

anyway SMT isnt going to be useful when you can just put more corse on desktop too

unkempt lake
#

Also that ventus has a borked vbios and performs 5% worse than other 4070 ti supers

#

Fun fact

#

I've had a very good experience rmaing a mobo to msi here in canada

#

Got a brand new board even tho mine was out of warranty by a month and a half

#

Didn't have to pay anything

#

Too bad canada post lost it on its way to my home and it took 3 weeks for canada post to find and i needed a working pc asap so i just bought a replacement board because i couldn't wait

#

But thats canada post

#

Not msi's fault

#

And i did get the board eventually

wheat plume
#

Google Pixel 9 leaks..... Hek

#

Looks like flat pixel fold

vagrant pagoda
#

guys

#

i love u

#

as a fellow dutch person I really like your guys company

unkempt lake
#

I mean its stuff that happens

#

They did refund me the shipping i paid to send it to them as an apology

#

@prisma crag

#

And i got the board eventually, just a little late

green remnant
#

What does delivery status pending mean

unkempt lake
green remnant
unkempt lake
#

No

stuck surge
cursive summit
#

Ok

stuck surge
#

hes just guessing shit and people believe it

cursive summit
#

Cool story

#

Anyways

stuck surge
#

factual story

ashen spindle
#

no mlid made it to get real sources by faking shit, he just gets stuff late now and doesnt get what the things he is told mean

unkempt lake
#

Seems like msi is saying some shit nvidia is saying some shit and review outlets are all saying sone shit

raw zephyr
young lily
#

Who knows about pc’s that can help with a question I have

digital cliff
cursive summit
#

Ask the question not ask the question if you can ask the question

young lily
#

lol

glad herald
#

Msi has been pretty solid for me so far

young lily
#

Ok one sec

young lily
#

If I want to add this to my pc

#

Do I need to remove this one

#

?

cursive summit
#

What board is that

young lily
#

I’m sorry I’m a noobie

cursive summit
#

What's your motherboard's full name

#

Manufacturer, chipset and version number

young lily
#

Anywhere I can go to check all that?

cursive summit
#

Something like ASUS B650-f GAMING

#

Should be on the board

#

Or if you have a box from it

young lily
#

Oh one sec let me check the board

cursive summit
#

Tbf you can also if the PC is on, just run a program like hwinfo and it'll just say it there

#

Or press windows key, type in msinfo, click System Information, and check under

young lily
#

MINES JUST SAYS

#

oops mb for caps

#

G10DK

cursive summit
#

Oh it's a prebuilt?

young lily
#

Yeah 😅

reef patrol
cursive summit
#

1x M.2 connector for storage

#

Per tech specs

reef patrol
cursive summit
#

So, only one expansion slot

#

You'll have to remove that one that's there and slot in the new one, sadly

young lily
#

Ahh okay okay

cursive summit
#

Or buy an expansion thingy for the PCIe 3

reef patrol
#

Could get an expansion PCIe to M2 card for the old one later

cursive summit
#

If you want 2

reef patrol
#

Beat me to it dogekek

cursive summit
#

I love you too Mansen

young lily
#

Thx guys

#

I’ll just replace it for now I guess with the new

cursive summit
#

You can then use 2 drives

digital cliff
#

yeah just don't forget you actually need to move the files over first haha

cursive summit
#

Also install Windows on the new one first though

#

Cause pretty sure Windows install will wipe the drive

#

Or does it make a new partition instead?

glad herald
#

I have a 4tb nvme and I didn’t end up putting on a heatsink for it the temps seem to be pretty good. But mine came with something on on it I think I have an asus motherboard as well

cursive summit
#

Something to look up, what happens to an SSD if it already has files before you install OS on it

#

I assume it just gets formatted

young lily
#

Ok

thick elk
#

Just looked at the photo of the motherboard, I see the left 2 Memory slots are empty, are you using a single stick of memory, otherwise probably not good.

glad herald
#

I usually just format it before I instal the os on it

reef patrol
glad herald
#

If I don’t need anything on it

cursive summit
#

All of the G10DKs come dual channel

#

Or did ASUS just forget to slot them in correct way and they are in slots 3 and 4

glad herald
#

I just recently installed windows 11 but I honestly prefer the os on windows 10 more so

#

But I guess windows 12 is apparently coming out

cursive summit
#

Win11 is trash

#

12 is already trash just from how Microsoft describes it

glad herald
#

It is but it gave me more fps on some games

#

I noticed

cursive summit
#

Win10 remains the only usable alive OS

#

I wish I could go back to 7 sadosucat

thick elk
#

Windows 11 does come with some improvements.

glad herald
#

Same here

thick elk
#

Tabbed file manager for starters

#

But I am glad to be using linux with plasma as my de

glad herald
#

Yeah some games it gave me more fps like that Harry Potter game Tony hawks pro skater I did some test

#

But I hate the layout of it to be honest

steel folio
#

why is my keyboard not working in the wootilityapp

#

it keeps disconecting and reconnecting but not acctualy changes different

ashen spindle
gusty kiln
#

@ashen spindle you hear anything new about mi300x? Seems to be actually shipping to customers

ashen spindle
#

performance or sales numbers

crisp granite
#

I've only heard about customers receiving em
nothing on performance yet
and sales...other than AMD's speculation/stating they got a ton of orders to be fulfilled in coming quarters, nadda

gusty kiln
ashen spindle
#

the sales numbers amd is sandbagging with

gusty kiln
#

I'm still a shareholder

#

ATH lets gooooooooo

crisp granite
# gusty kiln I'm still a shareholder

likewise
hard not to, with explosive growth, bought it at sub 100 a share in october
but I plan on minimising my position just before earnings
diversify a bit more

gusty kiln
#

I already have a decent chunk in a defense ETF

#

My only regret is not investing in the company I work at

crisp granite
#

depending on specifics, could be considered insider trading at given points

gusty kiln
#

Kek nah, it's a huge company

#

Just a low level engineer

ashen spindle
#

I know the sales numbers are good, the recent upticks are because evaluations are going up, are the sales outpacing the expectations? not a fucking clue

gusty kiln
ashen spindle
#

Ideally it drops so I can get more before zen5 drops xD

gusty kiln
#

Kek

crisp granite
#

so
small thing
a PE ratio of over 1k
generally a sign of hype more than anything else

gusty kiln
#

Tsmc doesn't look too bad atm

crisp granite
#

geopolitical issues make it a questionable stock to buy right now, even if fundamentals are solid

dusk bramble
#

Not my style but this should work with the wooting module right? https://www.brazenstudio.co/products/mason60-zen-series-basalt-black-1

Brazen Studio

MASON60- Kintsugi Black This in-stock drop of Mason60 keyboard cases is inspired by the Japanese art of Kintsugi, where broken porcelain is repaired using lacquer and gold powder. Rather than trying to hide the cracks, they become a beautiful feature that tells a story. Note that we didn't actually smash the keyboard case- we found it was too we...

ashen spindle
#

idk if the classic PE model is saying much when sales are in a somehwat bubble as well as generally exploding field for both their main sellers, hpc and cpus

crisp granite
#

so it is mostly expectations
but I don't expect the sales to be...
that incredibly amazing, enough to justify

#

idk

cursive summit
crisp granite
#

I'll check the previous earnings call

cursive summit
#

AFMF is out

ashen spindle
#

I mean I have no clue how many sales the current stock price is expecting

gusty kiln
#

I feel like the guidance during the call will affect the price more than the earnings this time around

ashen spindle
#

I know the sales numbers amd predicted are heavily sandbagged

crisp granite
#

that's what I'm expecting as well

#

tbh, they are selling parts hand over fist

cursive summit
#

Hold on a second
~ Additional Video Improvements
Various encoding support within AMD Software including AVC, HEVC and AV1 codecs have undergone additional optimizations to improve video encode quality.

#

That's.. good

ashen spindle
#

it also doesnt mean anything

#

"stuff was optimized"

#

ok, so like, what

cursive summit
#

"Support for Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling has been expanded to Radeon™ RX 7600 series GPUs on Windows 11 version 22H2"

#

What on earth is hardware accelerated GPU scheduling

#

Is that the big Win11 feature?

unkempt lake
#

AFMF IS OUT

#

HYPEEE

ashen spindle
#

the 7600xt is launching tomorrow that all its about

unkempt lake
#

HAGS i mean

#

Haven't noticed any change

cursive summit
#

I remember there being fuzz about Win11 way back when it was just being introduced

#

That there was "better scheduling"

#

I assume this is that

unkempt lake
#

Idk i toggled it on and off

#

Performance is the same

#

If theres a difference its like margin or error at best

cursive summit
#

Man I wish my card would support AFMF pepecry

#

5000 series doesn't get AFMF

unkempt lake
glad herald
#

I haven’t tried a amd card since like 2007 or so. Are the new cards any good? I know the CPUs have come a long way. I haven’t tried any of the most center ones either

cursive summit
#

"Audio may intermittently become out of sync with the video when recording from AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition using AV1 codec. [Resolution targeted for Q2]"

#

This has been in so many patchnotes as a known issue

#

I am surprised it takes them so long to fix this

ashen spindle
cursive summit
#

I wonder if it's not on their end as a problem

gusty kiln
#

AMD is fine but high end buyers will still go nvidia

ashen spindle
#

4090 isnt getting beat but below that you have options now basically

glad herald
#

I don’t think I plan on upgrading for awhile. I’m curious to see what Intel is going to do with their next CPUs and the new gpus

cursive summit
#

As much as I do want to go Nvidia, too expensive for less performance of AMD

#

Intel CPUs are shite

#

Intel GPUs might be alright

ashen spindle
crisp granite
gusty kiln
crisp granite
#

got a 4080 super on backorder

gusty kiln
#

4080S

#

Oh damn

crisp granite
#

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

gusty kiln
#

I'm waiting for reviews

#

Mostly for power efficiency

crisp granite
#

I saw 4080 performance, would be happy with that
but not for the price
4080S does somewhat better, for less

#

done deal to me

gusty kiln
#

I don't want to be a sweating in my room

#

Even with ac on

crisp granite
#

I can crack open a window and the ice cold air sorts it out

#

holy shit it's RAINING???????????????????????????

gusty kiln
#

In the summer though?

#

Gets to 90+ F here

glad herald
#

I’m running a Intel cpu so far it’s been pretty good. I haven’t had any issues I’m running it at 5.7ghz

crisp granite
#

generally over 35 degrees celcius here
I just use AC

#

can't live life without it

glad herald
ashen spindle
#

intel cpus are working and will be fine going forward, they are just having a bad time agains the competition soon xD

gusty kiln
#

I would only get an i5 if I were to go intel nowadays

crisp granite
glad herald
#

Oh nice

crisp granite
#

fair warning, it hasn't even launched yet
so..yeah

cursive summit
ashen spindle
#

almost no place has issues ordering gpus aside from 4090 models really

cursive summit
#

Do you guys remember OnePlus?

#

Yeah I don't

crisp granite
unkempt lake
#

@crisp granite im little confused why you're getting a 4080 super for 144hz 1080p tho

gusty kiln
#

I hope I can get 4080S FE

unkempt lake
#

Are you planning a display upgrade eventually?

#

At all

crisp granite
gusty kiln
#

Waiting for the new oleds

glad herald
#

I have a 4090 but I do plan on upgrading my monitor this year end of year most likely

crisp granite
gusty kiln
#

Or qned display that sharpe has working

unkempt lake
crisp granite
#

I'm not an esports tryhard
and I rarely hit more than 120 FPS anyway

#

wouldn't make sense

glad herald
#

That’s what I’m running right now a 240hz monitor

ashen spindle
#

alan wake RT on will get you a nice <100fps on that gpu so you're not needing more if you want rt xD

glad herald
#

Benq one

unkempt lake
glad herald
#

It’s really good

ashen spindle
#

every upscaler is shit

crisp granite
#

^^

#

I avoid upscaling because...yeah

#

would rather just have a potent enough GPU to handle it without

ashen spindle
#

it has gotten much better since checkerboard consoles sure

#

but no it is still easily noticable

crisp granite
#

keeping to 1080p helps with a good framerate

gusty kiln
#

At least go to 1440

#

Only like 15% fps loss

unkempt lake
glad herald
#

Depending on what game I’m playing I usually get like over 200fps

unkempt lake
#

Like having a quality screen with nice colors matters

ashen spindle
#

could get the dual mode oled thats run at either 4k 240 or 1080p 480hz xD

unkempt lake
#

Display tech has evolved a lot, are your 144hz displays tn or ips or va

crisp granite
crisp granite
unkempt lake
crisp granite
#

at the 200 CAD I paid several years ago, I almost doubt it has HDR support at all

unkempt lake
#

I went from 3x24 inch 1080p 144hz gsync panels to a samsung neo g9 and its a life changer

#

Just colors wise

#

Hdr is chefs kiss

glad herald
#

I have a 144hz monitor and a 240hz monitor but I always noticed little things that some people might not noticed and I noticed the 240hz felt so much better than my 240 even when I was tracking on games like Warzone and counter strike and frorrnite

#

The “144hz”

unkempt lake
#

Like... my hubby is using one of my old monitors and side by side looking at the colors its isnane

#

It just looks so washed out and bland

glad herald
#

The downside though on my montior the benq the colors suck

#

They’re horrible

unkempt lake
#

@crisp granite it really is wroth getting good colors and hdr especially as a single player gamer

glad herald
#

And I do photography so that doesn’t help

unkempt lake
#

Not even talking about resolution

#

Or size or whatever

#

Panel tech has evolved so much

gusty kiln
glad herald
#

Yeah it has

gusty kiln
#

Make WFH way better

crisp granite
gusty kiln
#

The msi 1440p one with quantum dots was the one that started it for me

cursive summit
#

I was pretty happy that miniled is now sub-500$ considering I'm never buying an OLED, but those minileds have really bad pixel to pixel timings

#

Whatever they are called

crisp granite
#

turns out it's not a super ultrawide and just an ultrawide
oh no

gusty kiln
#

1440p 240hz ips are in the 400s now

cursive summit
#

Jesus christ Koorui is wrecking the market

crisp granite
#

I'd jump to an OLED or QD OLED if I could

#

or yeah, mini led

cursive summit
#

Again I saw a review of that display and the timings are pretty mediocre

#

But it's still miniled though

steep creek
#

Sorry debil I misclicked something on your profile, just ignore whatever it was

crisp granite
#

worst thing you could have done was a DM request

steep creek
#

Ah great

glad herald
#

I was looking at this monitor or the Alienware’s on https://youtu.be/iNIN9ud9PZU?si=8-BOu1tcoEmKKmgR

Check prices on Amazon below
current monitor recommendations
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cursive summit
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It's kinda underwhelming how OLED is taking over the market and the superior tech of miniled is pushed under the wayside

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Disappointing

cursive summit
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It is

junior wagon
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microled pls

steep creek
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Same either that or accidentally started a call with them

cursive summit
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I mean microled is next gen

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Way too expensive

junior wagon
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yes but like other tech itll get cheaper

mild dome
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MiniLED isn't superior at this time

cursive summit
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MiniLED is superior

junior wagon
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lol no

cursive summit
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Does it destroy itself like OLED does?

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No it doesn't

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Literally superior

mild dome
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Worse image quality tho

cursive summit
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Idgaf what you say if your panel tech literally kills itself havo

steep creek
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It’s still behind in some areas like image blooming

mild dome
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All panel tech kills itself eventually

cursive summit
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OLED far far faster than anything else

final flame
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almost did it with lana a little while ago
because lana keeps on changing her name

mild dome
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But it looks good up until it does

final flame
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I aint keeping up with that

mild dome
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Microled monitors when?

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Well tell them to hurry up

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And cut the costs

glad herald
final flame
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I wonder how many of us have actually viewed microled in person

cursive summit
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But yes it's the fastest panel tech I suppose

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That also destroys itself

steep creek
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Miniled can blind you a lot more than OLED I guess, makes bright scenes in movies a lot more fun

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But it’s the other way around in dark scenes

mild dome
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Also 0.1ms response time is amazin

glad herald
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Yeah I heard something about that

mild dome
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MacroLEDs on suicide watch

cursive summit
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NanoLED?

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So many damn panel techs

ashen spindle
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After 5 days of covering CES, our hope of finding the next holy grail of TV technology was dwindling. At the last minute, we found it in a tiny back room at then Las Vegas convention center, and learned Sharp is ready to go to work making the panels that will go into mobile devices, laptops, monitors, and TVs.

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cursive summit
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At least this one isn't going to burn in

ashen spindle
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no because its dies before that could happen lmao

mild dome
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They banned me from the Quantum Dot booth after I ate all the Quantum Dots and entered a superposition.

Allegedly the police could wither know my velocity or my position, but not both

unkempt lake
cursive summit
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... there's something else you use a display for?

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Typically you would have a full sized TV for the rest of the applications havo

unkempt lake
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I do

ashen spindle
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really wonder when we see a crossober point where tn just doesnt have any benefit anymore

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well once we get qned, qdel or whatever that replaced oled and wont burn in the crosshair that is used 23/7 on their screens

astral haven
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oh dang i want it but oled and also 4k240hz

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impressive that they havent made it to market yet

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the asus, hp and lenovo are all 2.5k on their folds

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4k on 17 inches would be nicer

mild dome
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Problem you run into is yield
IRC OLED has a 50% yield. This is what makes it so costly

astral haven
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negatory, printed oleds have defect rates below .1 / square meter
now sure that means on a 10 square meter sheet theres likely to be 1 panel with a defect on it, out of potentially 12 48 inch tvs
so 1 dead pixel in 12 tvs

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and its not like the tvs are cheap either

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its still alot of money
60 or 120 hours at minimum wage depending

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am i considering spending around 4k on a display with questionably worse specs? also yes
but its still alot of money

empty wren
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Is that Hawaii average wages or that the minimum?

astral haven
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minimum

empty wren
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Okay

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Seems low

astral haven
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thats the point of setting a minimum

empty wren
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Well I just wonder how people live in that is all

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Especially where the housing would expect to be expensive and basics.

astral haven
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its enough to stay alive, mostly

empty wren
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Well if it does not look like California spots of tents

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Then alright

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There is good likelihood that servers in California live in their car if they are lucky to have one. Not saying that good severs do anything that might require super special knowledge.

astral haven
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well thats because food service is allowed to pay less than minimum wage for some reason

mild dome
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Great depression law that politicians "forgot" to remove

Hell even back then aicam not sure if that was the right move to make

astral haven
final flame
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7.25

empty wren
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I know it is very sad

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I think that is what it is here too in indiana

final flame
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not to mention servers can get paid even less for minimum because of tips

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I think it's like 4 for tipped wages, don't quote me on that

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tipping is a whole problem on it's own

misty saffron
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i don't think that's how inflation works

final flame
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instead of cleaning simulators
we get actual cleaning

thick elk
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That's one way of doing it, you could also just follow the lines of the floor itself or like normal people accept that it doesn't really matter much.

reef patrol
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Yes of course?

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Efficiency that's what.

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Yes that IS how we got such luxuries as the clothes washer, drier, dishwasher and ....cars 😛

halcyon moss
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i'd be mopping every day lol

reef patrol
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My hardwood floor can be mopped. But I don't need to unless I actually you know... SPILL on it.

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Vacuum that fucker.

thick elk
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Amsterdam recently lowered the speed limit in town to 30km/h (19mph) and more towns / cities will follow

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my street has a 15km/h limit (9mph)

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But yea, moping the floor seems like entirely too much effort. + isn't that something you do after vaccuming?

reef patrol
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Or after brooming, sure.

thick elk
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Uh, never had any of that.
Granted I no longer have hardwood, just fake floors as you call it and tiles downstairs / in the bathroom.

reef patrol
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Sounds like you need a better vacuum with softer wheels, or a less sensitive flooring 😄

thick elk
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Or maybe just clean the wheels?