Is there a difference between the Wooting 2 HE and the 60% besides the size?
#πβtech
lost wagon
digital cliff
no
fair gull
i mean there is some very technical differences but if you just wanna use the product as is then no
severe phoenix
fair gull
i dont think just because its patented they will use the patent
severe phoenix
Quinten Tarintino is going to receive a review unit
fair gull
thick elk
A patent doesn't mean it will be used, but there are definitely costs involved getting that far, so it does indicate at least some serious effort in that regard.
Even if it ultimately ends up going nowhere.
ashen spindle
Could be something for Accessibility similar to what Microsoft does with their accessibility controller thing
thick elk
Patent explicitily mentions vr / ar so at that point it was not for accesibility.
That being said foot controllers would be a very good accessibility thing, people losing a hand happens often enough.
smoky frigate
my router comes with some random ass examples for port forwarding
rough osprey
lol
crimson wigeon
Straight from the early 00s or late 90s
reef patrol
Those are so dated and amazing.
thick elk
Back in the days the average user needed to port-forward.
Now I still do but because of my own specific needs.
cinder tinsel
Can i use this to lube the wires of the stabilizers? https://amzn.eu/d/1Ob647w
pale sigil
So close 
@digital cliff
digital cliff
So close <:pepecry:643973235188170753> <@137952593921048576>
teehee, you're gonna be fine either way
ashen spindle
The issue turned out to NOT be a bad implementation of the DirectX9.0c specification by AMD (as I had suspected for well over 10 years) but rather a LENIENT implementation on nVidia's part
always fun when a lot of things turn out to not be broken on amd but rather nvidia not folowing spec
vagrant pagoda
To be fair, which one you think is more common
ashen spindle
hardware spec wise certainly not that amd is using broken/non spec conforming things
especially opengl had a lot of things that weren't great on amd because nvidia had workarounds that devs got used to
but no I can't find something for that atm
ebon bone
yoooo hello everyone so I just got my wooting 60he and I decided to mod it and it was the very first time that I have done done this and overall it is amazing and turned out great but I ran into a couple of problems and I was wondering if anyone could help me with them
ashen spindle
ebon bone
thx g
halcyon moss
Have a . and a , as well
wraith pawn
hello, someone has a list about a wooting vs apex pro?
thorny mirage
Some people need to learn how to use https://www.google.com
smoky frigate
hello, someone has a list about a wooting vs apex pro?
I saw a youtube review measuring the difference via high speed cams, where the apex pro turned out to be a few miliseconds slower
I don't know about the mini tho
rotund crypt
hello, someone has a list about a wooting vs apex pro?
both are good options
if you want the least input latency possible, go with the wooting
if you dont need that, its preference
wheat plume
Stole one of the wallpapers from Nothing Phone 2
I love it ππ
Light and dark theme
thorny oar
Hey, when I play video games, my crouch is the Crtl button I was playing the game today and trying to crouch, but it was not working. Some reason when I hit the FN button and the Crtl button at the same time it crouches but when I hit the Crtl button by itβs itself it does not work anyone know how to fix this or what the problem is I try to take the switch out. It does not work. Still does the same thing
thorny oar
Sorry
rough tundra
anyone know if the xg25aqm is a good competitive monitor
inland lion
Is there any difference between using the usb 3.1 and 3.2 usb ports?
severe phoenix
I think he said it has a potential power draw of 1300W from the panel alone.
While most are drawing a small fraction of that. Crazy. That's like a deep fryer, which use like 1500w
halcyon moss
A space heater typically draws that much
Poor us power circuits, 1300w is a lot for those :p
severe phoenix
lol
I think it's a lot for any power circuits - TV wise
A typical OLED would use less than 100
lol
reef patrol
Mhmm. Any other house and they would be struggling to keep it running 
severe phoenix
So if running a TV for 2 hours a day for a year is supposed to be like 47$ = according to energy star
I can't even imagine the electric bill
halcyon moss
Meh. I have a coffee maker, water kettle (a strong one 2000w) on the same Socket.
severe phoenix
This thing may be a deal at 13,000$, but the electric bill? Whoo boy
Probably like 100$/mo just by itself
Ok actually so at 2 hours per day, it'd only be 15$/mo in my state.
But still, expensive compared to an oled which is like 13$ a year at 2 hours per day
final flame
I wonder how much difference in heat though compared to ips
rustic flame
i almost bought that samsung g9 49 inch oled monitor i dont even wanna think about how much that would've costed for my power bill LMAO
final flame
i almost bought that samsung g9 49 inch oled monitor i dont even wanna think abo...
I mean if you're a good oled owner you'll be turning it off whenever not in use anyways
do they produce more heat though, that's the question
well that's a crt though lol
a better comparison would be ips or miniled
halcyon moss
I'm so glad crts are gone. Big, heavy, power hungry, squeaky noise, flickering image
final flame
I'm so glad crts are gone. Big, heavy, power hungry, squeaky noise, flickering i...
they have their uses
playing older games feels so much better on them for example
anime is also quite nice to watch on them
reef patrol
Just get a good upscaler
final flame
crts have a kind of natural bloom you don't get on any other display
I wish modern crts were created, would be nice to have something that is higher res
crts are kinda like the tube amps of audio
compared to solid state amps which are modern displays
severe phoenix
Eh Tube Amps are actually surpassed unlike CRT
Lol those are stupidly expensive though
final flame
"just"
reef patrol
Getting a GOOD CRT with modern inputs is not necessarily cheap either.
reef patrol
But more versatile
severe phoenix
Should be like 50-100$ tops
reef patrol
severe phoenix
Sad
Starcraft Remastered and Diablo 2 Resurrected are incredible
WC3 got fucked for sure
reef patrol
It's always fun to be confirmed in your suspicions that brands share marketing stats.
Cause there ain't no way that TCL ads suddenly appear organically after I watch Linus 115" TV video, literally the only time I've ever heard of TCL.
lost wagon
i mean there is some very technical differences but if you just wanna use the pr...
what were the technical differences?
fair gull
like the 60percent layout being sudo standard so replacing the case is no issue while fullsize third party cases are not a thing
that kind of differences
bold iris
anyone know good wooting settings for valorant?
lofty pivot
anyone know good wooting settings for valorant?
just lowest rapid trigger setting, rapid trigger off on left shift and whatever low-ish actuation you prefer for wasd is the typical settings
bold iris
just lowest rapid trigger setting, rapid trigger off on left shift and whatever ...
alr thanks
bold iris
just lowest rapid trigger setting, rapid trigger off on left shift and whatever ...
with lowest rapid trigger setting you mean low as in the setting put to high or low?
lofty pivot
with lowest rapid trigger setting you mean low as in the setting put to high or ...
as in 0.15 rt typically
bold iris
alr and should the actuation point be low on everything except shift and windows
lofty pivot
well outside of wasd keys it's up to you mostly. I do 0.3 wasd and 0.5 to 1 on all my other keys (except windows is 4 lol), but how low you want to go on wasd in particular is up to you
bold iris
ok
lofty pivot
and left shift you turn off rapid trigger mostly cause it accidentally triggers when you shift walk sometimes, so better to have it off there
bold iris
ok thanks
does it automatically activate my current profile even when i close the app or do i need to have it running?
do i gotta remap all my f-keys since i dont have any of them anymore
lofty pivot
does it automatically activate my current profile even when i close the app or d...
it will keep current profile, just make sure you have that profile you want as the highest profile in the list so that it's what loads each time your keyboard powers up
bold iris
it will keep current profile, just make sure you have that profile you want as t...
`how do i put it to the top
lofty pivot
just drag it iirc
bold iris
thanks
lone mantle
what is that
reef patrol
iron wave
So what do you guys think about RDMA?
ashen spindle
server stuff that I wont ever interact with and potentially begging for security issues
iron wave
It could end up in consumer stuff. There's already PCI-e over USB with Thunderbolt, so it's not exactly far off.
ashen spindle
pcie over usb is just making more external IO possible, idk what you would even use rdma in consumer for
iron wave
Faster and lower latency data transactions.
Might not be useful for stuff like transferring large files, but it could definitely allow for some neat things.
viscid willow
yes we definitely need even faster file transfers for our ambiguous 2TB mp4 files
ashen spindle
consumer isnt going to have massive rack setups that need infiniband to transfer data or anything like that, not even thinking about the cost to add the nics and all for that
iron wave
Lower latency access to stuff could be useful for video editing directly off of your phone. This stuff could also be nice for people that need more threads, add a PCI-e card with a CPU on it for an additional NUMA node.
ashen spindle
more threads is easily solved by just having more cores in basic cpus over the next generations instead of expensive solutions like that
iron wave
Heck you could just dock your phone into something like that and pool the resources.
Yeah but that requires replacing hardware.
ashen spindle
which is a lot cheaper than getting hardware that would support this properly
also removes any issues coming from the cpu not being directly next to the cpu slots which is not making latency and speed better
iron wave
The price should be comparable, if not cheaper because it wouldn't need as much PCB and far fewer peripherals.
ashen spindle
we are getting CXL in servers and at some point maybe in consumer which would be able to do all that
but I just dont see it doing anything for consumer in this decade
iron wave
No not soon, but it could still be a lot of fun.
ashen spindle
maybe? I just really doubt by the time we get it in consumer you'd use it for that when it's so much simpler to just get the 64core consumer cpu option
narrow dock
yo real quick how do i get my wooting 60he to update mode?
cause i try to update the keyboard and it fials every time
ashen spindle
sterile plover
what is that
iron wave
I don't know either.
sterile plover
O.o what do you not know
iron wave
What that screenshot is from.
sterile plover
What that screenshot is from.
Warcraft 3
iron wave
Well that's why.
sterile plover
iron wave
I don't play MMOs.
sterile plover
warcraft 3 isnt MMO, its RTS
sterile plover
World of Warcraft = MMO
iron wave
I've only played a couple of those.
iron wave
World of Warcraft = MMO
I just figured it was the third version of that. .-.
sterile plover
nah. warcraft 3 came out first then there was WoW
Warcraft was a RTS, like red alert
iron wave
I haven't played any of those. :V
sterile plover
iron wave
The RTS I've played the most was Rock Raiders.
sterile plover
Real Time Strategy = Build soilders or Heroes to attack or defend base and mine money
iron wave
Do you not know what Rock Raiders is?
sterile plover
ok wait
iron wave
sterile plover
reef patrol
The biggest problem is that it likes to crash.
Doesn't the fan remake help there?
sterile plover
im not a fan of lego games so idk
iron wave
This one you need to run as admin for it to work in the first place. 
inland lion
@vivid vine Are you familiar w/ polling rates with mice?
vivid vine
Not to much, havent really even bothered upgrading from the GPX
lone mantle
this gif again π
inland lion
awh rip
Got the newer finalmouse w/ 4k. Super laggy though :.
vivid vine
awh rip
Got the newer finalmouse w/ 4k. Super laggy though :\.
Seems to be a recurring theme with people buying 4k an 8k mice
Wondering if thats why GPX 2 is just 2k
inland lion
Seems to be a recurring theme with people buying 4k an 8k mice
Yeah, did a bit of research on it ^-^. A lot of people are saying "hardware issue" "polling stresses the cpu out".
But I doubt its a hardware issue atm. Seems to happen with people on decked out setups too.
Kind of sucks lol :/
4000 feels pretty nice on 360
ashen spindle
bad drivers, overloaded usb hubs, not updating windows to have fixes for high polling devices, running the cpu at max because the game is run at low resolution/details etc.
inland lion
bad drivers, overloaded usb hubs, not updating windows to have fixes for high po...
haha I have about all of those squared away. I use a PCIE Usb for my mouse specifically lol.
But what do you mean for the last detail there?
I play my games at 1720x1080
ashen spindle
if you run it completely cpu bound and your cpu is running at high usage and then you put high polling on it that can stutter
^
inland lion
I see, I see.
ashen spindle
also the pcie usb hub might have issues itself
would always want that on a hub thats directly connected to the cpu imo
inland lion
if you run it completely cpu bound and your cpu is running at high usage and the...
I don't know how accurate task mngr CPU usage is, but typically in games. Load is always under 50%.
ashen spindle
the % doesnt say anything, depends on how the game polls it and how much the thread for it is used
if you have 2 cores at 100% load on a 4 core cpu it shows 50% too but it's going to bottleneck hard
inland lion
haha, thats just because usb-c is expensive for manufactures.
They aren't too bad otherwise
ashen spindle
usbc is expensive because it makes it cost a dollar or two instead of a few cents for a port, that's not causing most of that price
that adds up to cost in millions of units, not for one single port
coral hatch
hey folks im trying to make a ticket in the suuport area but it doesnt want to seem to post
support*
having an issue with my wooting making a digital noise with each keystroke
and wasnt letting me type at all earlier
had to use on screen keyboard and reset it
astral haven
Nah that's just low volume, just gotta go to the source
Tb cards cost less than that, and they are using far more expensive chips
reef patrol
hey folks im trying to make a ticket in the suuport area but it doesnt want to s...
Click the blue button at the top?
coral hatch
yeah i did that, just didnt want to seem to post, it greyed out the blue button after typing my ticket and just gave me the posting rules
ashen spindle
then you were missing something, title, tag or something else
coral hatch
im not sure what im missing
untold juniper
imagine i would build myself a keyboard, would i need anything else besides;
case
wooting module
lube stuff (lubricant and other utilites)
switches
keycaps?
analog sinew
no
untold juniper
it looks like i would need to get keycaps a case and switches like its listed above
analog sinew
what? no, you do not need anything else
untold juniper
misunderstanding my bad
thx though
i thought you meant it like "no thats not everything"
analog sinew
^^
reef patrol
Just took apart my Logitech Superlight to clean out the scroll wheel. And holy mother of anti-consumer repair is it a fucking terrible design.
Six screws under the mouse to get it open. Six. Where are they? Under the teflon esque tape that is damaged when you try and peel it off of course. OF COURSE.
Could they have left holes for the screws with zero performance loss? Yes.
Another 12? screws later and I get to the battery. Which is taped onto another two fucking screws. Does it need to be? FUCK NO. There's ample room inside, and I could literally tape it back on between screws.
I don't ever want to hear anyone complain about the 2HE disassembly. π
latent mural
the vault door of mice
reef patrol
I am -so- ordering new parts from Ali after NYE
untold juniper
what profile should i get for L60's?
woven laurel
I think they all fit
untold juniper
I think they all fit
thinking is good, knowing is better
woven laurel
sharp badger
Wouldn't think that the profile would matter rather that the keycap has to fit the MX stem
untold juniper
Wouldn't think that the profile would matter rather that the keycap has to fit t...
so if it fits MX its good?
or should be
sharp badger
Well some might have difference in keycap size too
untold juniper
thx
sharp badger
The spacebar is e.g. 6.25u, angles on keycaps etc. etc.
rough osprey
Six screws under the mouse to get it open. Six. Where are they? Under the teflon...
screws under skates is sadly the standard
reef patrol
I am genuinely dumbfounded. It took me seconds to hollow out the skates for the screws.
Logitech: please cleen scroll wheel that we designed like cave men
Also Logitech: But don't take it apart, which you'll need to do to actually do what we're asking
frozen ingot
most mice are ass when it comes to user servicability
that you can't even access the casing screws for disassembly without destroying and replacing the skidpads on most modern gaming mice is just spiteful towards the customer
reef patrol
Yeah...
Putting the battery ON screws also not very cool.
And the ribbon cable didn't have a "tap" you could hold onto either. Which is again just spite.
frozen ingot
yeah getting that cursed ribbon connector back in place is the worst part for me
my fat sausage fingers and so-so precision skills makes anything electronic made after the 1980s a pain to deal with 
reef patrol
frozen ingot
thankfully there's tools to get around most shortcomings like that, though the actual smt parts used in modern tech are so miniscule I don't even bother attempting any board/circuit repairs
people who does smartphone and laptop board repair must be the most patient in the world
earnest nebula
is there ever going to be a wooting that is small but still keeps the f keys?
I think similar to the apex Pro tkl
patent flame
yo anyone know where I can find a coiled keyboard wire that goes to a micro usb, not a C? Iβm trying to replace my wire so I can sell my kb and get a wooting π
visual finch
do we know if the tkl will or will not be "better" then the wooting 60he or will it be around the same just diffrent design
latent mural
No one knows
frozen ingot
same tech new design
lost wagon
like the 60percent layout being sudo standard so replacing the case is no issue ...
are there any more differences? which one would be better for gaming and what would I be losing out on by buying the 60% instead of the 2 HE?
gusty nexus
hazy phoenix
between the shure 840a's, m40x's, 569s and any other closed backs in that price range (excluding the k371 due to build quality and qc issues), what would you guys recommend?
digital cliff
are there any more differences? which one would be better for gaming and what wo...
whichever one you like
lost wagon
whichever one you like
that answers 1 of the 3 questions ig
digital cliff
which would be better for gaming is the one youklike the most
lost wagon
and how am i supposed to know which one that is
digital cliff
by looking at them I suppose
lost wagon
._.
digital cliff
they are just physically different
digital cliff
the other stuff you were told already by tony I think
lost wagon
are there any more differences? which one would be better for gaming and what wo...
^
i was not the guy who asked abt headphones
brother amigo pal friend homeslice breadslice dawg
im askin abt the keyboard
LMAO
and why so
?????????
lord almigthy
wth is that
lost wagon
It's the only pinned message there.
why is the 60% gamers choice
digital cliff
no reason other than it's small and was promoted by "influencer" gamers enough at some point
reef patrol
the 60HE+ thing
Self explanatory I hope π
digital cliff
no
lost wagon
huh
so ig nah
so if i am to understand
100% is not good
cause it is unmoddable
i cant
its
a force
of habit'
analog sinew
π€¨
lost wagon
:(
yeah nah the real reason for it
is cause im playin val rn
so i type a ;ine and look back
digital cliff
if you want to mod then yes get 60HE
lost wagon
today
i was changing my brightness
i also have an overlock key
that i use sometimes when my wifi aint it
?
fn layer?
digital cliff
fn+1 = F1 and so on
lost wagon
im using a latop rn
but it has all the function keys
ye it does
i do want to mod it cause no offense the base wooting keeb sounds kinda bad
so ill buy the 60% and mod it later
one very quick question about the software
if i buy an external numpad
can the software still pick it up as part of the keyboard so i can use it for macros?
digital cliff
wootility doesn't do macros, but wootomation, sure
lost wagon
whatever one can do the stuff
digital cliff
wootility is the software to configure the keeb
wootomation is just a wooting-branded macro app
lost wagon
soooooo
digital cliff
you could just as well use autohotkey or any other I suppose though
lost wagon
idk what that is
is that a yes on the external numpad able to use macros?
cause i use my numpad on my left cause im lefthanded
digital cliff
yes you can make macros
either with wootomation or any other 3rd party hardware-agnostic macro app such as autohotkey
lost wagon
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee
how complex can i tune the macros on wootomation?
like to the ms with razer?
or no?
neat oriole
digital cliff
what could go wrong
severe phoenix
Yeah they just have awful marketing
They say no publicity is bad publicity, but come on
slow swan
What voltage is the Wooting cable?
fair gull
depends on the usb source you attach it to. the usb standard is 5v
the main issue is an unstable voltage with many coiled cables as the wooting drains a tiny bit more amps than the usb spec provides
fair gull
What voltage is the Wooting cable?
https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable
also please stay in 1 channel with a question
slow swan
also please stay in 1 channel with a question
Will do, thanks! What would the most appropriate channel for such a question?
fair gull
this is a good channel its mainly to not split up answers across multiple channels
thick elk
Ah it took a while for 4tb to come down, I would have gotten it when I upgraded storage but back then the price per gb gap between 2 and 4 tb was still rather large.
digital cliff
damn they've gotten a lot cheaper in the last year alone I feel
pale sigil
Yup
digital cliff
2TB ones went for around 200β¬, second hand, back when I checked
like for the premium shit as in the case of SN850x
thick elk
Oh I snagged up a secondary 2tb drive for less than β¬ 80 a few month back, granted a cheaper one but it's not my main drive and my 500gb one could definitely use a replacement at that point.
digital cliff
a secondary 2tb drive I bought new for I think 115 already back then, just depends on what performance you go for
the cheap stuff is a lot cheaper than the premium stuff
pale sigil
I bought my 1tb for Β£99 not long ago and it was an insane bargain.
pale sigil
And 1tb Samsung drives were like Β£30
For a week last year
Id love a 4tb mvme but I'm being patient as I don't need it yet.
thick elk
I don't need more storage for a while either.
latent mural
1tb don't go far nowadays
stuck surge
https://preview.redd.it/1g0y59nveh8c1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=03e1705c9e6d30e8f6c2f3dbb...
Its interesting that people need protective case for handheld thats supposed to he used with 2 hands
stuck surge
Id love a 4tb mvme but I'm being patient as I don't need it yet.
I need for skyrim modpacks
digital cliff
1tb main drive is enough for me, secondary drive just stores files so that I'll need to upgrade when I'm nearing the 2tb
pale sigil
1tb main drive is enough for me, secondary drive just stores files so that I'll ...
4tb in nas for used files/download/media.a
1TB for os on my desktop and 1tb for games
digital cliff
I'd like a nas just to have one but too expensive so I won't get one lol
umbral heron
Nah, I have TS-233 now, it wasn't that expensive of a NAS
fair gull
with the what?
pale sigil
I'd like a nas just to have one but too expensive so I won't get one lol
I guess but the ease of storing off the computer and a lot of automation is nice.
fair gull
I'd like a nas just to have one but too expensive so I won't get one lol
always build one out of an old pc
digital cliff
I don't have old pcs with drives that are worthwhile
and nas alone is too expensive
thick elk
For me my server / nas basically uses my old cpu, currently running a 8700k which is overkill.
digital cliff
Nah, I have TS-233 now, it wasn't that expensive of a NAS
that's 239β¬ whereas I'd need it to kinda be just 0β¬ 
thick elk
Drives of course I buy dedicated.
fair gull
you always buy nas drives
umbral heron
tbf for β¬239 you could build a PC for TrueNAS out of older parts... 
fair gull
prob better than any nas
cursive summit
has been cheaper in β¬ prices even the last weeks
Considering that's an all time low in $ for that part?
I doubt so, but I'll look into it
Yeah.. with the import tax sure, without not quite yet
fair gull
the main issue with prebuilt nas is they cost out the butt, never include disks inless you buy a bundle and they have 2 or 4gb ram only with a trash soc
old hp/dell office pc for 50bucks from ebay prob has more cpu power and ram
umbral heron
My Thinkcentre Tiny has 4 cores and 16GB of RAM and it was β¬40 so yeah
But overall I'm very satisfied with QNAP
I'll never buy any stuff from them again
astral haven
old hp/dell office pc for 50bucks from ebay prob has more cpu power and ram
But also alot higher idle power draw, and over 5 years 24/7 it adds up
ashen spindle
Yeah.. with the import tax sure, without not quite yet
Literally been like 250 last month in β¬ even in your chart and yes obviously taxes are included in comparison
fair gull
But also alot higher idle power draw, and over 5 years 24/7 it adds up
sure but imo id rather draw more and get better perf
astral haven
It does really depend on the use
My raspberry pi usb 2 attached hdd is faster than my internet, (my phone backs up over the internet mostly) and my camera's wifi upload combined
If you are purely using it for backup, you really don't need much power
And I'd prefer to save $100 or 2 over 5 years + another few hundred up front
fair gull
well last nas i built had 20disks in it at some point
thick elk
Right now my nas has raid 1 in btrfs, I probably could do better with 2 more drives but meh, I have an off-site backup of the important stuff anyway
pseudo harness
what would you people recommend L45 or 60s? I still don't have a good overview
astral haven
Personal preference
umbral heron
Check out #archived_the_lekker_switch backlog
Basically L60 is more or less MX Red, you can compare force chart V sent you vs other switches you can get on rtings for example
ornate haven
Can I use the Lekker Switch on the older Wooting Two Keyboard?
ornate haven
So how do I get new switches for the Wooting two keyboard?
reef patrol
If it's one one or two, you can email us and ask.
Anything more and it's time to find a new keyboard
ornate haven
I am getting a lot of double taps now. Is there a way to fix that within the software? Example - EExxaammppllee
Sorry, not a guru on the keyboard.
digital cliff
which settings are you getting the issues on?
or just always?
namely actuation and RT settings
digital cliff
usually you can adjust actuation and RT settings to be more relaxed if you have issues, also can't hurt to dust it off on account of the older flaretech switches being optical and the sensors being susceptible to dust and stuff
canned air on the pcb with the offending switches pulled out should probably do the trick
ornate haven
I fully cleaned up the keyboard this last weekend.
rose tendon
Yo can yβall tell me where I can check my shipping info?
digital cliff
I fully cleaned up the keyboard this last weekend.
so should be good, or maybe you inadvertedly introduced some fluff in there somehow? either way, could just check the offending switches, maybe swap some of them around, blow some air on the pcb
and if that fails, just adjusting the actuation and RT settings a little to see if you can't find a sweet spot
ornate haven
Ok, thanks Fleimi!
digital cliff
Yo can yβall tell me where I can check my shipping info?
hub.wooting.io before it ships and the email you get with the tracking link after it does
rose tendon
Ok
ornate haven
@reef patrol , I shot an email to social@wooting.io requesting 3 switches.
reef patrol
Aight. Can't promise anyone answers for another week or so though.
Holidays and all that
ornate haven
No worries. I have it right now where it's the switches on keys I don't press often.
Thanks!
astral haven
I'm certain that I'm the first person who has used a drywall anchor on a monitor arm to hold the monitor down rather than up lol
The monitor keeps angling back up when I don't want it to for some reason, and that's not gonna happen any more lel
thick elk
Isn't it just a matter of tighting a screw, like this one?
Either way my monitor arm is cursed in a different way.
It's arms are elongated as the tripple monitor arm really doesn't fit 3x 27inch even if it says it does.
Had to drill out a screw even as it really did not want to come lose
vagrant pagoda
I'm certain that I'm the first person who has used a drywall anchor on a monitor...
Same because I use portrait
astral haven
Isn't it just a matter of tighting a screw, like this one?
zoom in on it, the washer is bent because of how tight i had it, and it was still rotating
thick elk
Ah, it's hard to judge from the picture, doesn't seem like the best construction, but hey if your solution works it works
astral haven
yea
its an awful diy solution
using an angled wall mount that was designed to be as cheap as possible
thick elk
Not a fan of wall mounts myself, used them in the past, problem is if you want to change anything on your setup you end up with extra holes.
astral haven
no like
i have a normal monitor arm
then on the end i stuck this pos https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0069LPT0A/?th=1
thick elk
Ah
I seem to have a memory of a fly as I could cleary see it not being wall mounted on the picture you send
astral haven
because my monitor arm tilts 15 degrees up and 5 degrees down, and i wanted it to tilt as far down as possible
thick elk
Wouldn't it make more sense to turn it 180 degrees? of course it's wait will rest on the screwe but that should be fine?
astral haven
the mount is symmetrical
tilting down has the screw in that position
when you tilt up, the screw goes up
its a pretty strange design
thick elk
Just checked my single monitor one, there the tilt is similar move forward tilt down move backward tilt up.
Biggest difference it seems is that it uses tooth lock washers and a small screw on both sides to lock itself
Maybe going that route would be possible, replacing what's in there with something that grips stronger
astral haven
it has a second screw on the other side, however it too is also not locking
I was just looking down the aisle at home depot and this was the first set of things that seemed like it would work, I might have tried locking washers if i saw them but too late now
astral haven
neat
yea i dont think that would hold my monitor, i have a 32 inch super curved dood that is also extremely deep
thick elk
The scratches were from when it tried to hold my old 24inch tv which is probably at least as heavy The screws held fine, just the monitor arm itself was flexing under the weight.
astral haven
oh geez
i mean more that it would work itself loose over time if i moved it up and down
I swing my monitor arm around and tilt it down for use in bed
then i swing it back over my desk to work
thick elk
Ah yea then you don't want something like that.
ashen spindle
change sensitivity then
astral haven
dont think of it as anti collision, think of it as minimizing damage from a collision
astral haven
A worthy sequel lel
vagrant pagoda
So my dad gave me his oldish drone
Damn the skydios put dji to shame for everything but video
The tracking is scary compared to dji
orchid otter
hey, I'm planning to create a custom board using Lekker switches, would anyone happen to have any advice on the best hall effect sensors to use? Ideally, I want to use the same sensors as Wooting if thats possible, but any recommendations at all would be appreciated.
shadow minnow
Friend is looking for a 16β laptop for uni stuff / solid works for arround 1500$
Any recommendations?
stone thicket
Friend is looking for a 16β laptop for uni stuff / solid works for arround 1500$
If the aint gamin, something from apple
i have my mac pro m2 max 32 ram, so good for work
steep creek
I wouldnβt try running solidworks on a mac tbh
shadow minnow
If the aint gamin, something from apple
Wonβt run solidworks
stone thicket
Oh, my bad, didn't see that part, somehow
umbral heron
For CAD/Solidworks usually you'd want something with chonky CPU and quite a lot of RAM
steep creek
Yeah my friends in mech eng have gaming laptops runs well for their tasks
shadow minnow
Ah yes I am sure this is not chatgpt written
umbral heron
Something with 8-core Ryzen and 16/32GB of RAM would do I guess
And I dunno if they (SolidWorks) fixed their issues with RTX 40-series
ashen spindle
if its not for right now wait for CES on jan7 or so if they announce something new and good
shadow minnow
if its not for right now wait for CES on jan7 or so if they announce something n...
They need it asap I am afraid
This looks good to me for the price I think
raw zephyr
This looks good to me for the price I think
dΓ‘ sa
shadow minnow
Indeed sadly they donβt like the design rip
raw zephyr
raw zephyr
this indeed sounds like me
umbral heron
raw zephyr
probably my ublock filters
umbral heron
There's quite a lot of laptops with 5900HX and 32GB of RAM under β¬1500
https://allegro.pl/oferta/hp-omen-16-qhd-ips-165hz-ryzen-9-5900hx-32gb-ddr4-1tb-ssd-rtx-3070-8gb-w11-13595342867
raw zephyr
just buy a crusty thinkpad and it's gonna get you places
shadow minnow
Sends to CZ and SK
Doesnβt have to - they donβt live here just I do so itβs easier for me to look lmao
umbral heron
Ah, ok then
At first glance most of people here sell to who whole EU anyways
shadow minnow
I am thinking if the newest gen 7840hs or such woudlnt be better for solidworks than 5900hx tbh
But painful part is them wanting a sleek design
umbral heron
Not a lot of laptops with 7840 here unfortunately
There's mostly either HP Victus 16 https://allegro.pl/oferta/hp-victus-16-s0452nw-144hz-r7-7840hs-16gb-512ssd-rtx4060-w11-8cpu-300-nitow-14849850893
Or Lenovo Legion 5 https://allegro.pl/oferta/lenovo-legion-slim-5-16aph8-ryzen-7-7840hs-16-wqxga-ips-300nits-ag-16gb-14617032903
halcyon moss
Don't you want a quadro for solid works?
ashen spindle
Quadro doesnβt exist anymore
midnight flume
how do i get "@" on my keyboard? cant find it in the extended characters
ashen spindle
crimson wigeon
It depends on your keyboard layout, shift+2 or altgr+2 is common
umbral heron
Oh, AltGr+2 does Β² in my case, quite useful!
umbral heron
How do i reset my ketboard?
midnight flume
I just restored my ketboard, but i still cant press shift 2 to get @
i fixed it, thanks for the help @@@@@@@@@@@
raw zephyr
i fixed it, thanks for the help @@@@@@@@@@@
umbral heron
Danish layout uses AltGr+2 for @, interesting
ashen spindle
am I blind or is that just the default qwert layout
raw zephyr
yeah but you are still able to type special symbols with right alt
umbral heron
AltGr+4 = Δ? Why not AltGr+c?
ashen spindle
ohh that part
just looked at base layout and was confused how it was different haha
raw zephyr
AltGr+4 = Δ? Why not AltGr+c?
they are on the top row in normal cz qwertz
i wish i could just write professional emails without those symbols, but then you look like an uneducated twat
so much extra hassle
umbral heron
Yeah, gotta use those diacritics 
ashen spindle
that seems like the perfect task for AI "stupidify this text for pretentious executives"
misty saffron
meanwhile chad russians just don't use Ρ
raw zephyr
i think even simple autocorrect has those diacritics figured out
misty saffron
i'm pretty sure it was the inconvenience to type it on a keyboard that led to the letter officially being optional
raw zephyr
actually i was looking for different keyboard layouts comparison for different languages and czech landed at the top for qwerty i believe
but i was not able to find those comparisons, it's just something that i remember from years ago
severe phoenix
feral rose
astral haven
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104834999397658807/1189604418363064350/i...
what about it?
raw zephyr
skypad? yeah those new designs are not for me.
vagrant pagoda
what about it?
Prob doesn't know that is a workstation not a GeForce
cursive summit
ashen spindle
those EEC filings arent anything coming likely, probably just OEM/embedded/china models
cursive summit
There's no real space for an RX 7800 anyways
Plus I think they mentioned RDNA3 product stack is complete
ashen spindle
binning rejects, specific TDPs for embedded etc. or not even coming at all
plenty of names in EEC filings that never come around and are just to have it just in case bc it's cheaper to not refile one for everything
vagrant pagoda
DFR
ashen spindle
DFR
4k ultrawide finally
means we get enough beta testers before we get gpus that can acutally deliver that
vagrant pagoda
240hz OLED has to be crispy
I've been doing that for ages
5x1 portrait array lol
Wow the drone actually transfers fast over wifi, what magic is this
It's maxing out my phones sd card
digital cliff
yeehaw new tech that I can buy in 10 years when it's reasonably priced
notes down plans for 2033
ashen spindle
nah by then we hopefully have something that replaces current oled production
ashen spindle
ehh doesn't have to be
digital cliff
no but it will, tech lately has just gone up +100-200β¬ every generation
and that's like, not even inflation alone obviously
astral haven
not really no
ashen spindle
qd oled has been cheaper than almost anyone expected for first generation
like yeah its not cheap
but for first gen people were expecting like 2x or something
astral haven
and its still big time profit, they could go cheaper if there was any competition
ashen spindle
until we need gpu wafers in monitors they wont follow the gpu pricing trend
astral haven
you say that but there are processors in monitors
and modern ones are getting lorge
ashen spindle
I meant for the screen itself π I dont see prcessing asics needing bleeding edge nodes
astral haven
they arent using bleeding edge nodes
but even leading edge nodes (1 gen prior to bleeding) which is what they use are getting insanely expensive
mediatek's are on n7 afaik
but yea the massive reductions coming in layer counts are going to make for some very nice savings by the manufacturers
probably wont pass it on, but we will be getting nicer monitors than ever before for similar prices
ashen spindle
also dont think just moving on to qned or whatever it will be will require a better processor, so if not chasing higher frames/pixelcounts that still isn't causing increased prices
astral haven
gotta keep in mind that we are getting better monitors on all fronts, not just contrast, but also resolution and refresh basically every time
ashen spindle
can we just skip 2024 after zen5 launched, I'll get that then wait sleep till end of 25
astral haven
ikr
id set my cryosleep pod to wake me up when deckard releases, but who knows if thats even happening
ashen spindle
maybe they are ready and want to not launch during meta but during apples event this time
astral haven
yea
ashen spindle
absolutely 0 indication but I need some copium
astral haven
ive got so much copium that im considering a vision pro
crisp granite
id set my cryosleep pod to wake me up when deckard releases, but who knows if th...
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa samesies
ashen spindle
can get a vision outside us so xD
crisp granite
I don't want to get a PS5, PSVR2, more copies of games and play tethered
astral haven
thats quitter talk
but also get rekt we get all the fun stuff first
crisp granite
the only PCVR option for not tethered is the vive cosmos elite rn iirc
astral haven
yea i want a vr headset because i dont want to buy a 300 inch tv and ceiling mount it
crisp granite
the only PCVR option for not tethered is the vive cosmos elite rn iirc
which is so prohibitable expensive, especially for hardware far from new
for the money, I could buy a fresh index and several new games
astral haven
the only PCVR option for not tethered is the vive cosmos elite rn iirc
also nah
Q3 is pretty great
ashen spindle
the quest 3 is really good deal for its price
astral haven
its just not got the oled blacks for watching movies
ashen spindle
havent been able to try tracking on Beatsaber yet because its on the other pc
crisp granite
...um
yeah I am not bringing meta products into my home
ever
astral haven
π€· better meta than ccp imo
crisp granite
would rather valve's hardware anyway
knowing them, they'd build steamVR especially around their hardware specifically
astral haven
sure but id prefer meta to htc, apple to meta, and only then valve rather than apple
ashen spindle
oh right one thing I much prefer on the quest over the index is the lensflare not being annoying
astral haven
deckard is supposed to be inside out
and you only need 1 lighthouse to be high up, the other one(s) can be lower
what would be cool is using inside out and using the same cameras to do lighthouse tracking
and ofc also having the lighthouse photodiodes
ashen spindle
I need it to not use lighthouses because I cba having to plug them in every time I want to play vr lol
astral haven
but what would be really cool is a system where you can have lighthouses, but you can also just turn them off if you dont need the mm precision
i really dont want to have to buy another set of controllers is my concern
and handtracking just aint it chief
ashen spindle
yeah handtracking needs more time
astral haven
for use as a monitor or tv tho? its def enough which is why im even slightly considering vision pro
iron wave
IT WORKS
I'll be changing this though.
astral haven
lol ive been using a setup like that for well over a year
iron wave
π€
astral haven
i have a 3.0x8 to 4 3.0x8 pcie switch, and i have 4 of those expansion cards hanging off
iron wave
Huh, sounds expensive.
I'm sure there's a better way of doing networking.
This was just a test, I don't have the USB card for this yet.
vagrant pagoda
Just mount your lh
astral haven
yea i had it so that i could do networking + 3 pcie ssds
vagrant pagoda
Do it once and be done
I have vive in one room, and index in the other. But the both work with everything
astral haven
mounting implies you are allowed to mount them
vagrant pagoda
They are on 2 3m command strips
I didn't want to perm mount them when I put them up
So I command stripped for testing
iron wave
Those don't work long term for the Vive base stations.
vagrant pagoda
And never did another
vagrant pagoda
Those don't work long term for the Vive base stations.
Yep they do
astral haven
probably depends on wall material
iron wave
I even used alcohol to clean the surfaces and leaned on them for a few minutes each.
vagrant pagoda
Mine is textured concrete and works
iron wave
It just doesn't work.
vagrant pagoda
That has latex paint on it
astral haven
but theres no chance it would stick to my walls, especially with the vibration
vagrant pagoda
What size did you use?
iron wave
Normal and a couple of them.
vagrant pagoda
I used 2 large ones
iron wave
You're better off just using stands or bookshelves if you can't make holes.
vagrant pagoda
On some china corner speaker mounts
astral haven
did you maybe take off the stand and mount it directly @vagrant pagoda
vagrant pagoda
Using the 1/4 20 mount on the lighthouse
Direct has bad fov, room is too small
They are all they way at the roof at like 45* down
astral haven
using the bottom 1/4 20 or the back one
iron wave
The wireless kit is super nice though.
vagrant pagoda
Bottom
astral haven
I really doubt that command will hold up my lighthouses when it can barely even hold up regular printer paper
vagrant pagoda
The bracket had scres for both walls
I just stuck a command strip on each side
Oil based paint?
astral haven
π€· no idea, the paint has been around longer than i have
vagrant pagoda
Prob oil based
astral haven
probably
iron wave
Yummy lead?
astral haven
better to let the lead leech into my skin on the rare occasions that i touch the wall than take the paint off and breathe it all in in one go
vagrant pagoda
Yeah if it isn't peeling, don't fuck with it
iron wave
Got to love 3D printing.
vagrant pagoda
Lead paint is actually super stable
So it isn't bad to have if it isn't peeling
It's the peeling and your kids eat it
That's when it's bad
vagrant pagoda
better to let the lead leech into my skin on the rare occasions that i touch the...
Oil based you would just strip it
iron wave
Or if you want to do any home improvement stuff.
vagrant pagoda
Oil paint doesn't really make dust
It stays soft, which is why it peels so easily
iron wave
Apparently asbestos is still in use in some places in the US.
astral haven
asbestos is insane
vagrant pagoda
Concrete is just as bad as asbestos.
astral haven
uh no
vagrant pagoda
Concrete dust is just as bad as asbestos dust
iron wave
The fake quarts stuff is pretty bad when people don't use PPE.
astral haven
Concrete dust is just as bad as asbestos dust
in the short term yes
but the body can either break down or break apart most of the parts of concrete, asbestos has awful long term effects
vagrant pagoda
in the short term yes
but the body can either break down or break apart most of ...
Ni
astral haven
and concrete dust takes the form of particulates, however asbestos dusts take the form of strands
vagrant pagoda
Concrete causes silicosis
iron wave
Apparently some of the fun stuff about the quartz dust is it gets a lot worse when your body attempts to remove it.
I wonder how much silicosis would be prevented by people being safe with stuff.
astral haven
yea but while its bad if its microcrystals, its even worse if its inorganic polymer style strands
iron wave
Silicosis is really bad.
astral haven
its similar forms of similar molecules
iron wave
Potentially worse from what I've heard.
astral haven
but asbestos has 1 major difference from other silicates
asbestos makes longer and thinner chains that are equally strong
iron wave
People know it's really bad for you?
Workers going "YOLO" and not protecting themselves is a huge issue.
astral haven
π€· they are scared of the word, but noone knows what it looks like unless they are professionals really
vagrant pagoda
Yeah asbestos is silica bonded with magnesium isn't it?
iron wave
It's funny little natural fibers?
astral haven
unless the 60 year old labels advertising the asbestos content have stayed on and remained redable, the average worker wont be able to tell
vagrant pagoda
Generally you can tell it has asbestos if you break it and it's shiny/sparkly
astral haven
Yeah asbestos is silica bonded with magnesium isn't it?
its a molecule that includes silica and magnesium, but more importantly forms polymer like chains rather than crystals
vagrant pagoda
Granted it isnt perfect
iron wave
At least in houses you have a cutoff of when you need to think about it.
astral haven
it looks relatively similar to fiberglass without inspecting it
vagrant pagoda
Same with popcorn ceilings
iron wave
Those are ugly.
astral haven
and if you can see the shiny, you are in danger
vagrant pagoda
Asbestos is a lot more sparkly/shiny than fiberglass
iron wave
Not that you should be breathing in fiberglass either.
vagrant pagoda
I always makes up for popcorn ceilings
iron wave
Or probably handling it directly either.
vagrant pagoda
But if I scrape and it sparkles, it only gets a water removal
I was in one place
That sat for 30 years
thick elk
Asbestos is pretty recognizable I think.
astral haven
Not that you should be breathing in fiberglass either.
yea all of the stuff that is really sharp is generally inadvisable to breathe
thick elk
As long as it sits in place it's no problem, the removal / breaking it is the health risk.
vagrant pagoda
I was like fuck thst
iron wave
Anything that isn't just clean air isn't advisable to breathe. :^)
astral haven
Anything that isn't just clean air isn't advisable to breathe. :^)
yea but stuff that is molecularly sharp is particularly bad
vagrant pagoda
I use forced air with a n100 on anything that isn't untreated wood dust
Fuck all that other shit
Same with vacs
Always use bags in the shop vac and blue filters
iron wave
I'm currently in a new building so I'll learn about all the awful stuff I've been exposed to in 50 years.
astral haven
yaaay
vagrant pagoda
I have a pine cluster
iron wave
That's a different scale but still pretty cool.
candid grotto
Just got my Wooting, should I plug it into my red us port??
umbral heron
To... any USB port really...
candid grotto
Ok I heard there were issues with the apex pro mini in the red USB port
umbral heron
Red USB port? That'd be USB 3.2, never heard they could cause any issues
iron wave
If you have issues try a different port.
candid grotto
Does having 0.1 actuation, rapid trigger and taychon mode reduce the life span of the keyboard? Iβm asking these questions because I just had the apex pro mini and it lasted a week before the software gave out.
ashen spindle
nope all good to use
ashen spindle
uhh some years
astral haven
candid grotto
Damn years
crisp granite
did LE boards not ship the previous year, or at least early that year
LE is identical apart from some minor quirks and cosmetic stuff
astral haven
p much yea
but also it was a limited edition pre order only
ashen spindle
yeah I think i finally own the lekker for longer than I waited for it
astral haven
i ordered my HE when people started receiving lekkers
i joined the server when i got an email update with shipping progress
6 months after ordering -_-
fair gull
yeah I think i finally own the lekker for longer than I waited for it <:dogekek:...
same although i recently aquired a second one
fickle ore
Yeah asbestos is silica bonded with magnesium isn't it?
No, not necessarily
vagrant pagoda
Pretty sure that's what white asbestos is no?
fickle ore
its just a term that consist bunch of different mineral types
this scarily reminds me of something I probably inhaled as a kid
Hope it's just a devaju
bold iris
i got a wooting on christmas and its amazing
pale sigil
First print despite the leveling mechanism falling off lol
Somehow did an ok job
Can see where the nozel got closer
Xd xd xd xd xd
astral haven
its just a term that consist bunch of different mineral types
while yes there are different types of asbestos
They are all silicates bonded to magnesium that form strands that are molecularly sharp and are microns long
95% of all asbestos are chrysotile
astral haven
lel
as long as its not organic im here for it
woven laurel
π
mild dome
while yes there are different types of asbestos
They are all silicates bonded to...
Unless you live in Australia, where the most commonly found Asbestos was the blue Crocidolite, 100 times more dangerous then chrysotile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Blue_Asbestos
astral haven
oh yikes
severe phoenix
vagrant pagoda
https://preview.redd.it/rxwtlrdkuu8c1.png?auto=webp&s=2e35d5189b43991c71d4425125...
Already posted
I'm sad we don't get brightness for the RGB 4k
unborn belfry
Does having 0.1 actuation, rapid trigger and taychon mode reduce the life span o...
no
fickle ore
while yes there are different types of asbestos
They are all silicates bonded to...
They are definitely not all bonded to magnesium, some are iron bonded.
analog sinew
i wouldn't call it bonded in a salt anyway
and without looking at the lattice that distinction can't be made
cursive summit
Not.. bad
But 699$ for a 4070S and 849$ for a 4070Ti S is just kinda insane
Nvidia prices are just bonkers
Glad they finally figured out their naming scheme though
Ti is a "better" variant and SUPER ends up being a... mid-gen refresh I guess
analog sinew
"tie"
cursive summit
So is that the new canon lore that "Teee Ai" is just pronounced "Tie"?
If the boss says tie then everyone says tie
analog sinew
back to you steve
shrewd sluice
But 699$ for a 4070S and 849$ for a 4070Ti S is just kinda insane
especially when there is no game which make use of it
4090 is a great card for people who make money out of it
pale sigil
https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-rtx-40-super-leak-confirms-rtx-4080-super-and-rt...
Nvidia needs to stop gimping out on vram
cursive summit
What
Why do you need more than 8GBs?
12GBs is more than enough, 16 is becoming the mid-range VRAM offering
pale sigil
Are you serious lol
cursive summit
Yes?
tacit flint
I ordered my wooting 60he today π !
Can we all agree that the best wooting 60 he to buy is the ANSI United States ?
Even if i'm from France, the product will be way better ?
cursive summit
Like answer the question with no cop out answers like "are you serious"
Why do you need more than 8
cursive summit
Last I checked 8GBs of VRAM is enough for 99% of cases
12GB should handle all 100% without production workloads
pale sigil
1080p sure
umbral heron
There's already quite big share of games which need 10/12GB VRAM on high, even 1080p
cursive summit
16GBs is like, enough until 2030
cursive summit
There's already quite big share of games which need 10/12GB VRAM on high, even 1...
Those must be outside of my interest zone, prolly your newest CoD or something?
umbral heron
Yeah, because I said so many times I play CoD -.-
CP2077 for example
cursive summit
Huh
Since when
I played CP77 on 1440p high on launch with my 8GB 2018 card
Phantom Liberty must have really been demanding
umbral heron
Yesterday I played it, 1080p Ultra, it took 9.5GB on average
cursive summit
Then my RX 5700 is some magical beast or something
fickle ore
Did they say whether the SUPER series still have DP 1.4? π
cursive summit
Did they say whether the SUPER series still have DP 1.4? π
Who, Nvidia? They didn't even talk about it yet
fickle ore
fickle ore
Who, Nvidia? They didn't even talk about it yet
lol noobs
rough osprey
to not use dsc
fickle ore
Not sure why anyone needs more than DP1.4 anyways
Did you see the new oled monitors with 4k 240 hz / 1080p 480hz
If things like that keep popping up I dont wanna DP 1.4
cursive summit
Did you see the new oled monitors with 4k 240 hz / 1080p 480hz
No cause they are unafforable for third world country people
300$ monitor runs on DP1.2 so that's all I need
fickle ore
Lol alright
umbral heron
Member when Nvidia subreddit gaslighted everyone "you don't need more than DP1.4 anyways" at 40-series launch
How the turntables
cursive summit
At least I am not polish, that would be fourth world country
fickle ore
I'm not buying them either at those prices, but I usually keep gpus for 5-6 years so maybe I'll have one in about 3-4 years without needing to upgrade
cursive summit
When new VGA DLC dropping?
I could settle for DVI
It's kinda annoying cause I feel like my next card will end up being an RX 6000 series
Prolly 6800XT but I wish it could be 6900/6950
But it feels sad to not go Nvidia but their prices are so dang steep
fickle ore
Im enjoying my 7800 xt a lot rn, its not so bad on AMD side
fickle ore
Last driver update gave us HAGS too Kekw
ashen spindle
Super refresh doesnβt change display engine itβs the same shitty one for Nvidia still
cursive summit
Like, I am not willing to get anything below a 3080Ti or 6800XT
But 4070 is a bit... expensive
Kinda wanting to go Nvidia though
mild dome
I got an AMD, and thusfar haven't hurted for RTX and frame gen
Mostly because the games I play either don't have ray tracing or would suffer from frame gen
zenith silo
Like, I am not willing to get anything below a 3080Ti or 6800XT
I'm very happy with my 6900xt
Don't know how that'll fit in your budget though
I think they should be cheaper than 4070
zenith silo
I'm very happy with my 6900xt
I paid 881 cad for mine
cursive summit
I'm very happy with my 6900xt
Power consumption on those is a bit high but they are great
zenith silo
Indeed it is
cursive summit
Don't know how that'll fit in your budget though
6800XTs if relatively lucky can be gotten for 400USD
500 brand new
6900XT is like.. marginally better?
zenith silo
Playing cod/MC with shaders it eats up 200-300w
zenith silo
6900XT is like.. marginally better?
Yeah I only got 6900 over 6800 because it was 40$ more at the time
cursive summit
But I doubt it's a better chip, 6900/6950XT I think just runs a higher clock so it's just an OC'd part
Although I don't quite remember
zenith silo
40$ more for like 9% increase in speed/performance, I'll take it
cursive summit
Ah no 6900XT actually gets more CUs
ashen spindle
Power consumption on those is a bit high but they are great
6800xt and 6900xt have the same TDP
cursive summit
So it's more than just an OC
ashen spindle
the 6950 was the one that got a small bump in tdp
cursive summit
Well considering with a 6000 series card you get FSR3 and AFMF, it's pretty dang great
Only thing you don't get is the Anti-lag+
zenith silo
Only thing you don't get is the Anti-lag+
I'm glad I don't have this
I would've gotten my apex account banned when this was causing bans when it first released and auto enabled
cursive summit
Skill issue
Play better games 
There's virtually no reason not to enable anti-lag
zenith silo
New feature auto enabled in driver's: new feature gets you banned from games
zenith silo
There's virtually no reason not to enable anti-lag
What exactly is it? Same deal as Nvidia reflex?
cursive summit
Kinda scummy on AMD's part, although not sure if it's architectural, to limit the + version to 7000 series
cursive summit
What exactly is it? Same deal as Nvidia reflex?
Pretty much?
fickle ore
I would've gotten my apex account banned when this was causing bans when it firs...
it wasnt autoenabled at any point
zenith silo
I seen lots of people saying they never enabled it but got banned check the driver software and it was auto enabled
Must've been false truths
fickle ore
mhm wasnt for me in the beta driver, maybe it was in the final release
zenith silo
Either way, AMD went about implementing that terribly
fickle ore
definitely
stuck surge
im not getting amd next because fsr really sucks vs dlss
6950xt has better memory than 6900xt thats it
zenith silo
im not getting amd next because fsr really sucks vs dlss
I don't use those to begin with
stuck surge
Nvidia invested a ton of cash to make superior ai upscaler
zenith silo
I don't like how either of them made my game look
umbral heron
Superior AI upscaler
stuck surge
and obv rt cores suck on amd too
stuck surge
Well i prefer 4k native obv
ashen spindle
and if we are talking about next, unless you mean a current gpu we dont know what Rt looks like on either vendor next gen
stuck surge
Yea the lower the res the worse they are
zenith silo
I play 1080p240 I don't need ai upscaling
stuck surge
Next nvidia.will.still hold rt perf
zenith silo
Especially on the games I play
digital cliff
yeah because you can totally see the future π
stuck surge
amd cant just quadruple rt perf in 1 gen
ashen spindle
but by how much and is it at that point still relevant
stuck surge
yeah because you can totally see the future π
Its not how tech works
If amd had magic trick to gwt better rt they would do it already
zenith silo
Ray tracing doesn't look that much better to me
digital cliff
yeah why didn't people just invent cars 100 years earlier
if they had a magic trick surely they'd have done it already then
stuck surge
they would refresh this gen to just gen better rt perf if it was possible
Same as they did with 3d cache
ashen spindle
lmao absolutely not
there is a massive difference between changing core architechture and adding 3d cache when that was planned since the start
umbral heron
In the open-world there's practically no difference between RT and cubemaps
RT looks nice in closed spaces with a lot sources of light, but that's about it
stuck surge
In the open-world there's practically no difference between RT and cubemaps
RT l...
Thats just hypercope
Tbh
zenith silo
It makes them look slightly nicer but the difference isn't noticeable enough for me to warrant using it
stuck surge
anti or ignorant to rt people have their 5 stages of copium
zenith silo
Or it's just not that noticeable for us
umbral heron
Thats just hypercope
Wat 
I literally tried how RT looks in person
stuck surge
So gpus that will have very good rt perf
pathtracing completley changes how cyberpunk looks
ashen spindle
yeah because companies never fuck up in future products and stuff could never change
stuck surge
Its a different game
ashen spindle
really isn't
stuck surge
Lookwise
ashen spindle
really isnt
stuck surge
Obviously it lacks samples
umbral heron
That's the point - only CP2077 makes use of RT, and that's mostly because it's a game with lots of light sources and lots of closed spaces
digital cliff
I'll admit I didn't even try RT because last I checked it didn't work on my setup and even then 6900xt is too shit in it to even bother
stuck surge
Once you realize what rt can do and what raster cant you start noticing it a lot
You cant cheat your way out of dynamic light ing
digital cliff
but I don't really care about it in the first place as long as the performance takes this big of a hit
stuck surge
Yea rt on cards before 30/40 sucks
ashen spindle
it still sucks on 40 cards
stuck surge
7900xtx can do something
the biggest difference for me is light blend
Color blending makes colossal difference sometimes
But i think also that current videogame rt algos arent properly constructed yet
mostly
they need to tweak it more to change the scene in more desirable ways
once games are made with rt in mind.it will be a big difference and even raster copers will give up
ashen spindle
ok so in some years where both vendors are on like 3+ gens in the future so literally doesnt matter which vendors does what today
umbral heron
Bro had too long of a stroll either on Nvidia subreddit or some interesting YT channel
stuck surge
ok so in some years where both vendors are on like 3+ gens in the future so lite...
Well depends if you want to use it today or not
4090 has best any performance
ashen spindle
by the time any game is made like that you'll need to upgrade to actualyl render that
stuck surge
But price sucks
ashen spindle
4090 does not have best any performance
stuck surge
has and fixed the massive amount of issues with 7xxx yet
stuck surge
4090 does not have best any performance
?
ashen spindle
