🔌│tech

[steep creek]

Lol what even is that design

[sharp badger]

Hippo design

[steep creek]

Like they’ve welded together three different types of cars

Yea

I am so sure there was something in that indent under the headlights before

[analog sinew]

thats where you mount ERA

[halcyon moss]

Looks ai generated

[analog sinew]

wonder what the blowholes are for

vatnik ashtray?

[umbral heron]

No
We do not do eraposting again

[analog sinew]

but what if road rage rpgs come into play

[severe phoenix]

That movie is really good

[misty saffron]

"Avtotor" said that the photo that got on the internet is not the company's electric car
This is only a universal carrier of units, it is used to test any new cars

excellent reporting as usual

[reef patrol]

[misty saffron]

can’t find anything that says “tesla-killer” in russian either

quite convenient how nobody really can fact-check this

[umbral heron]

Apparently people has dubbed it "tesla-killer" on social media, but quite conveniently source material does not share any link to said social media post
https://english.nv.ua/life/russia-boasted-about-the-prototype-of-their-electric-car-amber-it-would-be-better-if-they-didn-t-50377776.html

[misty saffron]

ukrainian news is truly something

https://youtu.be/femMzavdNJs

for reference

[halcyon moss]

no boom

[wheat plume]

I asked AI to write Hello World in Malbolge... :P

[misty saffron]

ai never hallucinates

[ashen spindle]

never, ai code always works

[wheat plume]

im looking for some aliases in ArcoLinux I used to use when using Arco and found these and Ic ant stop laughing xd, best alias names

[halcyon moss]

someone's local env sneaked into prod

[wheat plume]

WPS Office wants to replace localhost with holocaust 😅

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/lg-reveals-4k-32-inch-oled-monitor-with-dual-hz-feature-1080p-480hz-and-4k-240hz-modes

[cursive summit]

3rd option though, it's a semantically similar word

[severe phoenix]

https://imgsli.com/MjI3NzYw

Steam deck OLED measurements

Shows pretty much perfect stock calibration

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/19ar-tN-M8I

The antivirus guy works for AMD????

[frozen ingot]

that's not john mcafee so no

[cursive summit]

It's just a joke on the surname

[reef patrol]

[frozen ingot]

[cursive summit]

Not a particularly common surname, maybe distant relative

Cousin 5 times removed or something lel

[frozen ingot]

the less crazy part of the family tree

[umbral heron]

I despise HPE
Disk caddies until G8: "Sure boss, you can pull the disk out even it needs a bit more force"
Disk caddies when G8 and after: "Yamete kudasai, please don't pull too hard, I might bend and break even" -.-

[old marlin]

what

that like

seems like a massive skill issue to me

ngl

[umbral heron]

Older ones you could pull out of blades no problem, even when you had to use more force
Newer ones you have tickle around or you may break the hinge

[old marlin]

wtf are you doing

to require that much force

[umbral heron]

It's not that much force, it's just they are made out of very thin metal sheet

[old marlin]

I must be using entirely different caddies then

cause they slide out easily

[umbral heron]

Day and night difference
Hinge in a newer one I feel around that I could break them with little to no force
With older ones there's no chance I could break it

[old marlin]

yea but you don't need much force to slide them out

[umbral heron]

I dunno then, maybe someone before me mucked up sliding them in, because they take quite a considerable amount of force, and several of them I had to lever out with a screwdriver

[reef patrol]

Sigh... here we go again.

My PC's randomly rebooted three times within the past hour, which is ... not normal. Once every few days is what I'm used to.

RAM "seems" fine (did one full round of Memtest so far and it's not provoked by temperature or CPU load. So that narrows it down to two likely suspects. A defective power supply that glitches out randomly, or the motherboard most likely.

[marsh glade]

Just do what I do and start nuking portions of you C drive

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

Hm i've had a faulty ram stick once that'd cregularly crash when it was in there, but fine during memtest

[umbral heron]

Does it audibly click while it turns off? If so, then PSU is faulty, I had that issue several months back

[halcyon moss]

stick removed, stable system

[reef patrol]

Just a completely random reboot. No bluescreen or anything that makes it sound like a failsafe was tripped.

At this point I kind of want to just throw everything out and start over. But that's not cheap, and I assume we're in the late stages of the current AM5 generation.

On the other hand... it's hard to work like this consistently.

[raw zephyr]

am5 awaits you

[ashen spindle]

could always just get a 7600 and resell that when zen5 hops around

[reef patrol]

Price difference between the 7600 and 7800X3D isn't large enough to gamble on a resale I think.

[ashen spindle]

200 vs 350?

[reef patrol]

It's just under half of double price.

240 vs 400

[ashen spindle]

I mean if it does impact work might be time to get it and just either skip to zen6 after or something

[reef patrol]

Anyway...getting ahead of myself. Don't really have 5-600€ to spend on hardware right now 😄

[halcyon moss]

say it impacts you productiveness at w00ting :p

(and get a cheap laptop instead lol)

[raw zephyr]

how old is your psu? and do you have a spare one that you could try?

[reef patrol]

I do not. But it's a platinum something from Seasonic.

One of the pricier ones that's about... two years old? three?

[raw zephyr]

hmm never had issues with Seasonic

8+ years in a system of mine, no issues

[umbral heron]

I had, but it seems I'm in a minority

[raw zephyr]

and it's completely random? no pattern to it?

[woven laurel]

also have a seasonic psu. never had problems whats the question

[reef patrol]

Completely. I could be playing a game, or I could be answering emails in a browser, with just Spotify running in the background.

PC just goes immediately into black screen, and I can see by the debug readout on the motherboard that it's going through POST

[ashen spindle]

anything in the event log?

[reef patrol]

I've tried previously to try and provoke it via excessive amounts of Furmark and Prime95, but it doesn't seem to be related to that.

[reef patrol]

Sadly no.

[ashen spindle]

enough ram that you can run it with just one stick for a while?

[raw zephyr]

maybe faulty sensors? no idea, try monitoring your temps with hwinfo

[reef patrol]

Running windows on 8GB of RAM. In this day and age?

[raw zephyr]

really hard to tell

[reef patrol]

[woven laurel]

prime95 doesnt crash it?

[reef patrol]

Mnope.

[woven laurel]

what temp does it make at 95

[raw zephyr]

my guess it's the psu

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-been-haunted-wednesday-addams-wednesday-ive-been-harassed-ive-been-cursed-gif-27447430

[raw zephyr]

really nothing shows up in event viewer? that's weird

[ashen spindle]

is it pluged into pleasents cursed house power?

[reef patrol]

I really miss working in an IT store. I could just drag the PC to work and swap out every component one at a time.

[umbral heron]

Looks like sudden power cut if it doesn't write anything to event viewer
I'm 70/20/10 sure it's psu, ram or mobo
So, shucking PC piece-by-piece until you'll find the culprit?

[raw zephyr]

buy at a local store, pickup in 30 minutes, test out, return if necessary ;D

[halcyon moss]

as if there are local stores anymore -_-

[raw zephyr]

they are in czech ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[digital cliff]

there are, they just have fuck all in stock

[reef patrol]

Two issues with that.

1. I can't provoke it, so it could be a week before it happens or more.
2. 14 day return here, online. So I'd still have to pay shipping twice (and assume it fixed the issue, if it doesn't crash again within those 14 days or so)

[raw zephyr]

well..

[digital cliff]

any time I go into a brick and mortar, out of 30 things they have 2 in stock, the rest you gotta order from their webshop anyway

so why not just order to begin with zzzz

[reef patrol]

And the few items they have are overpriced af compared to online.

To the point where brick and mortar is just...obsolete.

[fair gull]

older ones made out of metal are even better lol

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/VR0Q68SoKfs

[raw zephyr]

tl;dr please

tl;dw rather

[ashen spindle]

tldr user has preferences that dont match

[raw zephyr]

ah the usual

[reef patrol]

Ope... there it goes again.
Still nothing in the event log that points towards a system failure or even a driver/app crashing.

https://tenor.com/view/gifmiah-gif-19835012

[ashen spindle]

hm guess maybe I really should update my vserver finally

it complains about the os being outdated

cmon debian jessie isn't that old

[wheat plume]

1. No universal back gesture
2. Cant adjust app settings from within the app itself
3. Lack of settings options in Control Center
4. Keyboard, no number row, no . or , on main layout
5. Volume Control, doesnt have volume sliders for each channel, just ringtone and notifications
6. Notification Management, cant change settings per app or per notifcation type within each app, no icons on status bar, cant snooze notifications for later
7. Can pause video on Android, not just stop and make a new recording later
8. Cant move icons on home screen to any grid slot you want
9. Dialer app filters contacts as you type a name or number
10. No reverse wireless charging
11. Doesnt show charging info while charging

[ashen spindle]

No reverse wireless charging
wtf android lets you do that, that's criminal

wireless charging at all is a shit idea

[wheat plume]

its a nice feature to have, especially for charging your wireless buds

[ashen spindle]

honestly think wireless charging should be made illegal it's such a waste

[steep creek]

takes long though, i'd rather fast wired charging than wireless personally

[wheat plume]

ooo headphone jack <3

[umbral heron]

bUt I cAN'Tb e bOTHeRed to ConnEcT one WIre

[ashen spindle]

yeah really overdue on making a clean install on this

thankfully I only need to copy SVN and website data and put that back later

[wheat plume]

🤤 the even bezels

[ashen spindle]

where are the infos for ssh users saved again so I can just copy that and dont have to remake my account on the new install

[stone thicket]

~/.ssh/*

[ashen spindle]

yea did find it, ty though

[stone thicket]

np

make sure when u copy it it's chmod 600

[ashen spindle]

now the fun of setting it up again and remembering fail2ban and all urgh

[stone thicket]

:kupo_dance:

[misty saffron]

sorry to disappoint, but…

[wheat plume]

?

[ashen spindle]

alright debian 8->12 done

[misty saffron]

the chin is noticeably bigger

[wheat plume]

no?

[misty saffron]

yea

[wheat plume]

dont see it...

[misty saffron]

it’s like twice as thick

[halcyon moss]

nerds

[white mural]

Can someone help me pls
my wooting 60HE randomly after a couple weeks started to change colors and did insanely fast a lot of random key input meanwhile my hands are off the keyboard.

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[frozen ingot]

is there anything more sleep inducing than the modern smartphone industry

[analog sinew]

power issue most likely. are you using stock cable? tachyon/rgb brightness?

turning down the rgb should fix it

[white mural]

i did everything in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE

but it didnt help

my old ducky one 2 mini works fine

[ashen spindle]

you made a post in support please keep it there

[reef patrol]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1187425472108310549

[potent arch]

👍

Got my first custom to work

Laptop era no more

[wheat plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1015249591106551879.gif?size=96

[umbral heron]

Oooo... modded client detected...

[analog sinew]

oh so it was the mobo

glad we didnt miss anything

[potent arch]

Yea all of u got it right the first time lol

Just Download Windows now right

[analog sinew]

windows installer stick yea

[potent arch]

Goodie already 2/2 70%

[ashen spindle]

question for network people, I have my nas connected to my router and a secon lan cable from my nas to a switch, that one is on 192.168.1.x and the regular network obviously on 192.168.0.x if I plug something in on that switch, can I have it access the rest of the net by changing the subnet mask or would that not work at all

[reef patrol]

Your what connected to your router?

A switch shouldn't change the IP range.

[ashen spindle]

no but I set it so the lan2 on the nas has a different range than lan1 on it

[reef patrol]

Oh dear.

[ashen spindle]

it's on purpose so that devices on default can't get into the rest

but now I needed to add another devices that does need regular access and I only had a port open on that switch so now I'm trying if I can go around this or need a different switch for it

[reef patrol]

Either they can communicate, or they cannot. Separating them accomplishes that one thing. I am not aware of any workarounds for "special cases"

Anything plugged into Port 1 on the router has one subnet, everything into Port 2 has another.

Including any switches put behind either.

[fair gull]

the nas isnt a switch

its just available on 2 networks

[reef patrol]

wat

[ashen spindle]

give me a sec to use paint

[fair gull]

quins questions was if a nas connected to both switch and router allows someone on the switch to access the router subnet

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that'd be useful

[fair gull]

unless i misunderstood

[reef patrol]

How would it be connected to both? Two separate physical ports?

[fair gull]

yes

[reef patrol]

Then the NAS would specifically have to be set up for two physical addresses and so on.

[fair gull]

they do that automatically

[reef patrol]

Let me finish.

And then it becomes a question of "Can I setup my NAS to handle having two different LANs for each app and jail thing I run?"

[fair gull]

not what it was about though

[reef patrol]

Well yes. Yes it is.

Want to access SMB on the NAS? The NAS needs to be able to assign the SMB to two subnets and manage all of the cross connection.

[fair gull]

not what quin asked

[reef patrol]

That's how I understood it. Bring forth the PAINT

[ashen spindle]

I want that device C is able to get to my router

[fair gull]

ye so the answer is no

[umbral heron]

No way in this configuration

[reef patrol]

Oh you're using your NAS as a router 😄

[fair gull]

unless you specifically set up your nas to act as a layer3 switch this wont work

[fair gull]

no

[umbral heron]

You need routing between .0 and .1 subnets

[fair gull]

hes just having it connected on 2 networks

[reef patrol]

And routing traffic from the router is... acting as a router.

[fair gull]

it is not though

[reef patrol]

A layer 3 switch is a router, Tony.

[ashen spindle]

a and b are just poe ip cameras that I dont want to expose to the internet, just that they send data to the nas so for that the setup is working as intended

[fair gull]

i am aware but why would you ever setup a nas for that

[reef patrol]

THAT we can agree on of course 😄

[fair gull]

i would hope the switch is connected to the router directly

[umbral heron]

Wouldn't it be easier to connect everything to one router and then use VLANs? Or firewall for that matter

[ashen spindle]

why would the switch be connected to the router

[fair gull]

i assume some device on the switch gets internet

[reef patrol]

I mean...

[ashen spindle]

no, I just added device C and I want that to have internet, but the cable was only making it to the swtich so I'm seeing if I could get away with not having to get another switch/long cable or something

[fair gull]

if your switch can do vlans yes

otherwise thisll be one hard task

[ashen spindle]

and the only reason I was thinking about it was that I was able to configure the cameras with this setup from my pc that's on the router so there has to be some way to go that way

[fair gull]

so the easy solution is to not have the nas inbetween like that but use a switch that supports vlans

[latent mural]

Chat

[fair gull]

that way the physical port can only connect to a specific vlan and nowhere else

[latent mural]

my nine button doesnt work

I just got my wooting 60he

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[fair gull]

#1019755933959733258

[digital cliff]

#1019755933959733258

[umbral heron]

I thought about something like this, with OpenWRT you should be able to do this on most routers

[timber mantle]

#1019755933959733258

[ashen spindle]

well the software for the ipcams runs on the nas so it was just the easiest to use the second lan port for a poe switch and have it set that way

[umbral heron]

Firewall then

[ashen spindle]

also wouldn't work I only have one cable from router to where the nas and switch is

nah I'll just get a cheap second swtich that I put before the nas then and keep the rest as is

[umbral heron]

That would work too

[fair gull]

would be the ideal solution

[umbral heron]

Depends if it's managed or dumb switch, but yeah, that'd be perfect

[fair gull]

yes a managed l3 switch would be ideal here

[ashen spindle]

oh its a cheap poe switch for 15 bucks lmao

[fair gull]

oh yeah ok well

[ashen spindle]

I was also surprised the software was able to access the cameras without me changing anything so I thought there would be some way to use the subnet settings on the device to basically tell him to just use .0.x and find its way out

[fair gull]

well that would require your nas to act as an l3 switch and route packets from 1 network to the other one

[ashen spindle]

it did that then I guess?

[fair gull]

would be quite odd as thats not a default setting

[ashen spindle]

wait I remember if I change my pc's subnet I was also able to directly acces the cameras

[fair gull]

so you setup your nas as an l3 switch basically

[ashen spindle]

let me find out what the setup is, I certainly didnt do that manually lol

no I dont think so, lan1 has DHCP land2 has the .1.x static ip but the rest is default

[fair gull]

odd

[ashen spindle]

chinese software magic

[fair gull]

unless your pc is connected to the switch it shouldnt be able to just talk to the cams. unless the nas runs some intermediate software that routes just the cams

[ashen spindle]

cant do it right now because I am uploading something but I'm pretty sure I just set my ip4 subnet so i was on .1 and then it worked and I could get to the cams by their ip

[fair gull]

interesting

[ashen spindle]

eh, I'll just get a switch infront of the nas put it there then I also have a room for when I put my old pc there as second nas and dont need anything else

this is where knowing more about networking would make it easier but I'd also rather off myself before actually deep diving into that again

[fair gull]

i wonder if ill ever get to use my unifi stuff again

[ashen spindle]

no room for it?

[severe phoenix]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Insects-in-transparent-Steam-Deck-buttons-Deck-Buttons-expands-gaming-handheld-with-bugs-of-your-choice.785346.0.html

[fair gull]

need to get some good quality cable channels to glue on

[ashen spindle]

switch with 4 ports for 8€ prices really are nice for that now

[fair gull]

and then also find the time to drill through concrete walls

[ashen spindle]

ah yeah

so the reasons why I can't really change my setup either kek

[fair gull]

or maybe ill go with cable channel up at the ceiling and then go down to the door and patch in a very short flatpatch to go under the door

[ashen spindle]

kinda wish back then I had gotten the bigger model so I could run pihole and co on it instead of now waiting to retire my old pc to use as second nas but oh well

[fair gull]

i personally wouldnt invest in a nas anymore knowing how overpriced and underwhelming basically all their tooling is

id build my own if anything

[ashen spindle]

oh it is 100% because ease of use for the IP camera software that synology has

[fair gull]

id setup a synology vm on proxmox lol

and then truenas for my actual nas needs

[umbral heron]

If I weren't a dumdum and bought a NAS with ARM cpu I'd run TrueNAS too

[ashen spindle]

I think the license for the camera software is tied to the nas so idk if that's feely available if I had it in a vm

[umbral heron]

ig as long as it's DSM doesn't matter if it's native or in vm, if it's synology or xpenology

[ashen spindle]

idk at that point it's probably not worth my time to deal with that when it just worked out of the box and wasn't that expensive

oh wait i might have an old tp link router in boxes somewhere maybe I can use that as a switch if I find it

[fair gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAyhKaclsPM

dayum

[umbral heron]

WebP

[fair gull]

ye

[umbral heron]

Both L45 and L60 are

[ashen spindle]

well, device c works now with the tp link router swtich but I cant get to my nas hmm

might just try a different cable because if I can access the other device idk why this isnt working

hm the tplink router gets recognized in lan but I cant access it via its ip nor can I get to the nas still

[wheat plume]

I love this guy...using the most jank power delivery system to power obscure industry only hardware

https://youtu.be/St1DjbYbA88

[ashen spindle]

yeah ok this router isnt working I just order a 10€ switch from amazon and be done lol

[shadow minnow]

I keep forgetting what mess you can cause with overflows

[halcyon moss]

Some things just aren't worth the trouble

[ashen spindle]

yeah, would have been nice to reuse old router I still had but eh

[halcyon moss]

Buffer overflows are the base of most security issues

Still.

In 2023

[shadow minnow]

Tbh I am not too surprised

[halcyon moss]

Fuck c

[wheat plume]

Now im curious as to why Google named the ChromeOS Debug cable "Suzy Q"

[marsh glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AtV7NTIt9g
Historically significant song

[frozen ingot]

its not that jank tho

it has a proper plug, the cables/connections look intact and everything

dude uses screw in terminals

[wheat plume]

fair enough

he did manage to buy the proper adapter later in the video xd

my first time seeing Bazzite OS

its a Fedora based OS for handhelds that runs shit in containers

Odd location for the Install button xd

[ashen spindle]

man networking is still so confusing

[umbral heron]

plug everything to one box and let dhcp take care of the rest

[ashen spindle]

I see the router show up in the devces my actual router sees, but cant acces it, I dont see the new device but it can connect to the internet just fine lol

like I was thinking maybe I need to configure the router to work as a dumb switch but it somewhat works and I cant acces it so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fair gull]

why another switch

[ashen spindle]

so I can put one infront of the nas

so everything stays but nas and device c now go into a switch that is connected to the router

idk how else I would easily fix this

[fair gull]

obscure? its available to anyone who asks and the power connector isnt special either

[wheat plume]

You still need a business account to use it though
And permissions within the business to setup the device

[fair gull]

a "business" account with google just means you pay whatever google wants for a .com domain

and boom

you can order it

[vagrant pagoda]

That's meen like that for ages

Top left buttons

[wheat plume]

usually the button to continue is on the top right , not left

[potent arch]

i need some help, trying to download roblox and it wont boot, it always just closes after saying "starting roblox"

tried some other roblox clients like strapblox and that didnt help either

new system btw with drivers all on

[misty saffron]

sir this is a wendy’s

[potent arch]

https://tenor.com/view/hoppe-meow-hoppersk-funny-cute-awesome-cat-gif-cute-gif-24090511

[cursive summit]

Wait, I was fooled that this was a discord server about keyboards

It was a ruse all along, wendy's marketing is getting really good nowadays

Yes, wrong channel

Off to keyboard talk with you

[umbral heron]

#🔧│keyboard_modding guys should help you

[reef tundra]

oi oi

[smoky frigate]

you have to consider the potential application of any technology towards porn

whatever facilitates the consumption of porn will inevitably win

[reef tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-plankton-bucket-army-evil-laugh-gif-23056390

ALL HAIL PLANKTON

[gritty bear]

Anyone have some recommendations for a headphones for pc? Looking to replace my artic pros from 2018

Don’t need a mic anymore

[livid rock]

urm does anyone know pcs like really well. Because when i play fn (performance mode) and low settings my cpu is hitting like 70-100% while my gpu peaks at like 15-30% at most is this normal? (I have a 5-9th and 2060 super w 16GB ddr4 3200MHz)

[analog sinew]

if the game is cpu bound that can happen

low settings makes it easier on the gpu too

[warm night]

yes

the game seems to like cpu a lot when youre in performance mode

i mean makes sense since it alleviates a lot of gpu load since its kinda not doing much on the gpu anymore

[livid rock]

okay but it should be like stable frames right?

[warm night]

is it stable

i mean the game just drops fps for no reason sometimes it feels like

[livid rock]

no i am dropping by 100 frames

[warm night]

does that happen to correspond to when something big happens on screen

[ashen spindle]

or just cap your fps as the easier option

if you run unlimited frames at fully cpu bound you get those stutters

[livid rock]

just building and editing, swining my pickaxes to my guns and drop down

[livid rock]

i am capped it at 165

[ashen spindle]

try capping it lower

[livid rock]

144?

[ashen spindle]

yea

[livid rock]

alr let me check rq

[iron wave]

I have plans.

[old marlin]

wtf is that

[iron wave]

M.2 -> OCuLink

[old marlin]

didn't even know they made those

[iron wave]

It says on the PCB.

They make most PCI-e physical adapters.

[old marlin]

fair ig

[livid rock]

still droppnf

[iron wave]

You can use USB 3 cables for x1, OCuLink for x4 and x8. It's interesting.

[ashen spindle]

do you actually get to those frame rates?

[warm night]

the game just doesnt really run that great on that hardware i guess

[livid rock]

i have 4.1 cached. Would clearing it help?

[ashen spindle]

do you hit the 144fps or does it drop below even without lagging?

[livid rock]

i hit 144 standing still when i start shooting building etc then i start losing

[ashen spindle]

try setting the limit even lower then, what cpu do you have

[livid rock]

i5-9600k

wydm?

[ashen spindle]

that cpu should be getting much more fps in performance mode

[warm night]

should it

[livid rock]

yeah it was untill the og szn

kinda messed me up

[warm night]

the og season actually ran well

[livid rock]

yeah thats what everyone told me

how do i do that?

[warm night]

you

you dont

you buy a cpu that has more cache

[livid rock]

oh ofc

thought the i5-9th was hard solid tho

[ashen spindle]

it should still be good for >140

I mean first youtube video is 2 weeks ago with 9600k and 2070 gets like 180fps on performance mode

[livid rock]

yeah its just odd

[vagrant pagoda]

https://youtu.be/11_5TB0-lNw

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fz3P41emo8

[smoky frigate]

the jank in this channel is frequently off the charts

[fair gull]

nice repost

[fair gull]

.

[smoky frigate]

here is my apology

[cursive summit]

Man LinkedIn is annoying as shit

They keep sending marketing emails, had to unsubscribe cause it got annoying

Also, SEE HOW SMALL IS WHAT?

What is small???

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah it's been rough

Going to see if it lasts, as all signs point to a larger eruption than 2018 soon.

Yesterday they are at the largest inflation since the 2018 and it's growing still today.

Lots of inflation with low numbers of weak quakes is kilauea's foreplay

Was there there last weekend, lots of steam and vog

[astral haven]

https://www.techpowerup.com/316955/msi-titan-18-hx-will-be-the-worlds-first-laptop-featuring-18-4k-120hz-mini-led-display
for when a 17 inch laptop is just too small

[pale sigil]

"free cable management tray" with a frame that costs £280 when not in sale.

[ashen spindle]

pretty much default for any of these things

[pale sigil]

Well they could have done better xd

[ashen spindle]

how so

[pale sigil]

An actual proper tray?

[ashen spindle]

you mean for the entire length?

idk how this isnt proper

[ashen spindle]

isnt that the same just twice in length

[pale sigil]

Gimmi that instead boo

[final flame]

the best option is just to add a backboard onto the desk

[vagrant pagoda]

Did the prosart AIO get posted?

[umbral heron]

https://www.neowin.net/news/kioxia-mass-produces-of-worlds-highest-capacity-2tb-microsdxc-memory-card/

[reef patrol]

My wallet cries. Just tallied up the total potential cost of fixing my PC.

[old marlin]

[umbral heron]

€200~300?

[reef patrol]

Worst case, 1000€

PSU, CPU, Motherboard, RAM, New waterblock and accessories needed to redo loop.

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FnqkqR

Of course I might be able to sell some parts for a bit of a refund.

[ashen spindle]

Pcpp really needs an option to show concerted currency

[umbral heron]

Holy... It's a new PC at this point

[ashen spindle]

I mean, serious question is to consider if you really want to watercool the cpu still

Since it’s only for looks

Not getting more performance

[reef patrol]

It's about quiet.

Ain't touching those brands with a firepoker.

I'd rather pay to have peace of mind and not have a leak suddenly 😄

They are... what... 20€ cheaper?

[ashen spindle]

Oh you can have quiet with aircoolers still, because big heartsink is enough to not even need a fan spinning fast

You could also cool it with the Noctua passive cooler lol that’s dead silent

[reef patrol]

The watercooling parts aren't what's breaking the budget here 😛

[umbral heron]

7800X3D

[sharp badger]

Think in Derbauers test it was Alphacool Core 1 and then Heatkiller

[ashen spindle]

Where tf do you even change pcpp to another region so I can see what those prices are wtf

[reef patrol]

Pretty sure you don't.

[ashen spindle]

On mobile

[reef patrol]

Like I said. Total price was 1000€ give or take.

Noted. Not married to EK specifically, just avoiding buying outside of Europe 😄

[umbral heron]

Removing dk. from URL worked for me

[sharp badger]

The DDR5 isn't that badly priced

[umbral heron]

DDR5 is getting cheap 🥳

[sharp badger]

https://youtu.be/MtwIOJ-YWDM?si=mwO1MXtT1-nFjuRI&t=1818

[reef patrol]

Gonna reformat the PC tonight. See if that changes anything.
Then swap the PSU, since that's the cheapest part to change (and not a bad place to start for a power issue I suppose)

And if that fails, I'll have to bite the bullet and go the full mile.

[old marlin]

german cooling sweep

why is it that so many cooling companies are german (and austrian) based

I mean optics are much more presision instruments than cooling

kinda funny

since both zeiss and leica aren't THAT old

neither are 200 years old

[raw zephyr]

ek waterblock? what for? i can cool my 7800x3d easily with the be quiet dark rock pro 4

[reef patrol]

What for? My existing watercooling loop that's what for.

[raw zephyr]

i c, i completely ditched water cooling

too much work for nothing, at least for my use case and my parts

[reef patrol]

It's a lot cheaper and efficient for me to buy a new CPU block than buy an air cooler, and have to deal with routing my watercooling around an air cooler for my GPU.

[raw zephyr]

indeed

[old marlin]

yeye ik

[fair gull]

isnt zeiss close to 200years?

i thought they were founded like 1840 or so

[umbral heron]

1846, pretty close to 200 years

[misty saffron]

карл у клары украл кораллы

[old marlin]

yea almost

same with leica

[livid rock]

Okay need some advice again i getting these werid what i would say "crashs" it isnt a blue sceen but every freezes and nothing gets a input. I cant even turn power off from the tower i have to turn power off from the plug. Does any one know what this is and how to fix it?

[smoky frigate]

fighting krauts using lenses made by kraut, based

[stiff creek]

I have a weird idea, I want something like wooting keyboard but on dactyl manuform case. Is this even possible?

[digital cliff]

sure if you can figure out a way to sturdily mount hall-effect sensors under each key

and then write a firmware for it or use one of the already-existing open source HE projects as a base

[stiff creek]

I do not build keyboards myself, are there people who would take on such projects, for money? I'd love to know much money I would need to save up for something like this

[wheat plume]

The ZorinOS dark theme is so pretty 😍

ok, this is slick

you try to install Epic Launcher on Zorin and it suggests the Heroic Launcher instead

[reef patrol]

Slick? Sounds SUS

[wheat plume]

I wonder what else this shows up for when you try to install the windows exe

[wheat plume]

whats sus about this?

[reef patrol]

Don't install the thing you wanted - Instead try this one

[wheat plume]

its suggesting an open source launcher to run Epic and GOG games from

[reef patrol]

DID YOU MEAN TO TRY EDGE INSTEAD OF CHROME!?!?!?!?

[wheat plume]

XD

[reef patrol]

Et cetera.

[reef patrol]

That doesn't sound entirely legal.

[wheat plume]

yes but windows doesnt give you the choice, this does

[wheat plume]

how not?

[reef patrol]

Yes it does. It's still pestering you.

[wheat plume]

Heroic Launcher is fully legal

[reef patrol]

Did GOG and Epic open source their launcher code?

[wheat plume]

not sure about that

[reef patrol]

So you can't say it's legal. 😛

[wheat plume]

They havent tried to stop it...

[umbral heron]

Nyah They use API to access your account and get games this way

It's ok for such uses

[wheat plume]

Yeh, you need to login to your GOG and Epic account

[reef patrol]

That's like saying you're allowed to pirate games, as long as the police doesn't come knocking 😛

[wheat plume]

its still legal, im sure... they are using official APIs and your real accounts for both services

[umbral heron]

You know... Technically...

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

also, if you are pirating shit you cannot legally buy anymore, then I dont see the issue

[digital cliff]

what you're asking for is a prototyping service, I'm sure some exist but the price would be exorbitant

you're not asking someone to "build a keyboard", you're asking someone to design a keyboard

[ashen spindle]

this is the more questionable part, it says it's unkown but knows what it is?

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

Yeh thats strange xd

[ashen spindle]

really is like windows telling you fiefox is unkown and you should use edge becuase the rest could be evil

[wheat plume]

thats a generic message though, from that popup UI

should remove it for apps they detect for this purpose

[ashen spindle]

wouldn't want these popups on any OS ever

[umbral heron]

Thankfully it's desktop environment specific 🙏

[ashen spindle]

ah right, the usual linux fragmentation

[umbral heron]

But of course
You need several hundred forks of everything, because behind each one there's a neckbeard who tells everyone "this feature will not be added" despite thousands of people asking for it

[woven laurel]

sorry it can take up to 24h for everyone to get this.

[umbral heron]

Awfully quick as far as Linux stuff go

[stiff creek]

I was afraid of that...

[stiff creek]

Is it complicated to mount those?

I'll try to research myself

[digital cliff]

I think you're way out of your depth here to be honest

hall-effect sensor is just an electronic component

so either you need a custom formed PCB or I dont even know some other weird way to mount them and wire them

like based on the questions you're asking, it just feels like you're missing the fundamentals

[wheat plume]

Discord now uses the iPhone Dyanmic Island to keep track of the time and members in a voice call when you arent in the app while in a call

if your iPhone doesnt have the Island, it uses a regular notification

[cursive summit]

Dynamic Island is literally cancer

A forced upon consumers massive notch that should not exist

There are literally phones out with under-display cameras, and if Apple INSISTS on that dynamic crapland, how about they make it not hardware based, but software based?

People in android sphere coded island in like what, a week after apple announced it? Purely software, completely disableable

Apple just insists on showing down consumers' throats a massive notch for no reason

[wheat plume]

Ubiquity cameras just got another set of security problems

The mobile app was showing people the wrong cameras
Showing them the cameras from other users randomly

Even letting them access the other account

[ashen spindle]

thats why you never put cameras on the internet

[wheat plume]

^

Exactly .-.

[cursive summit]

That's why you should self-host your camera feeds

[ashen spindle]

thats what I'm doing on my nas, not hard to set up properly

[cursive summit]

How's the security on your end?

[ashen spindle]

for what, the physical access?

[cursive summit]

Well I assume you are hosting via a direct connection via an IP address?

[ashen spindle]

its a direct PoE cable to the camera

never gets past the nas

[cursive summit]

I never took a look at in-depth cybersec, but I wonder if it's easy to bypass a MAC/IP whitelist if the host is available online and it's not just LAN/local

Kinda thinking of hosting some things on the webs without a domain, just an IP, and how to protect the thing cause I sure don't want some chinese webcrawler identifying a new available site and getting hit with an attack

[ashen spindle]

vpn access to it

[knotty mica]

setup a vlan for the cameras without internet and connect a nas, nvr avaliable on both vlans and you interact with the cameras through the nvr, one option, requires managed switch / router that can manage vlans etc, plenty of info out there

[pale sigil]

Speaking of cameras

Since our window got smashed I'm finally going to get one or two....

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/WH-qtuVRS2c

[cursive summit]

Will you TL;DRW?

[wheat plume]

Intel finally getting competitive for battery life and GPU power

[cursive summit]

Intel.. ew

Wake me up in middle of 2024 for Snapdragon

[wheat plume]

It's more efficient and matches the new AMD chips also

[wheat plume]

On x86???

[cursive summit]

How out of date are you??

[cursive summit]

They should bring that tech to high end desktop market, cause their Lakes are hella horrible at efficiency rn

[wheat plume]

Yep
This new one seems hella more efficient

[cursive summit]

But it's Intel so it's just naturally ew

[wheat plume]

They've finally caught up to AMD and Apple

Almost

90%

[cursive summit]

Inb4 falls off

[wheat plume]

Yeh
Intel will get too confident and ruin it

They gave these new chips the worst name ever

Intel Core i7 Ultra <model number>

[analog sinew]

model number 34621135533kfds

[wheat plume]

I think it's only 5 characters max

[stiff creek]

I am absolutely not a person who could do this. It does sound hard, I understand that you need to design this and it requires knowledge in corresponding fields. My thought process was that maybe among some contacts I have I could find someone who could design just the way to install these sensors or at least give a specific explanation how it has to be done. It could help me tell if a few people I know are capable of such task. I just need to know first what kind of person am I looking for. Is it simply an electrical engineer or it has to be more specialised knowledge?

[cursive summit]

Just breadboard it

[stiff creek]

Finding someone who could just "do everything" must be hard and expensive but I believe I could find a workaround

[cursive summit]

For what fleimi is describing, you will need an engineer versed in both electronics and IT

One that knows how to construct stuff and then program them to do something

[digital cliff]

yeah electrical engineering/pcb design/3d modeling/cad/3d printing

and like, 2000€ to offer them for their troubles xD

[stiff creek]

That is very helpful of you. I have a lot of different kind of engineers and designers both in my family and among their friends, that is where I place my hopes. I just needed to know what I am looking for first.
Thanks a lot to both of you!

[digital cliff]

hope you find what you're looking for haha

[ashen spindle]

except not really

[wheat plume]

You missed the "almost"

[ashen spindle]

it's still worse than current amd while coming out like a year later, not too long bnefore amds refresh/next gen

wouldnt call it almost if you dont beat the competitions nearly last gen model

[ashen spindle]

its not on desktop because it's not doing well when you scale it up at all...

[cursive summit]

Sounds like typical shintel tech

When's battlemage? That's the only tech that I would reasonably care for

[ashen spindle]

late

[cursive summit]

Hoping ARC B just doesn't get completely blown out of the water by last gen cards

Let alone the new ones

It took Zen like what, 3 generations to actually be good?

Zen 1 was meh, Zen + was meh, Zen 2 was getting somewhere, Zen 3 actually was on par with Intel at long last at single core

[ashen spindle]

zen+ was a fix for zen1 that wasnt a real generation

[cursive summit]

It did release like a year later

[ashen spindle]

and for arc you gotta pray its not canned after battlemage

[cursive summit]

There was sum article that they already have preliminary support in some software for both B and C

Can reasonably assume C is prolly last dance depending of B's success

[ashen spindle]

if something is cancelled they dont put resources in to finish all that was started

[cursive summit]

Indeed, that's how business works, and it's sad

[ashen spindle]

so celestial showing up doesnt mean much

[cursive summit]

We have any real expectations for B even selling anywhere near what would be considered a success?

Arc A is like well below 1% marketshare

At least 5% would be prolly the best Intel could do with B, no?

[ashen spindle]

depends on how big of a charity they are

[cursive summit]

Sell the cards at a discount and monetize the drivers

Monthly 9.99$ for drivers n support

[ashen spindle]

BMG is late and might be the last dgpu from intel

[fickle ore]

Dauymn the AMD shills here, sit down

[gusty kiln]

@fickle ore how is the 7800XT holding up?

[fickle ore]

Its alright no issues. Powercolor makes good gpus. Low temps, like 40-50c while gaming. Just that annoying delayed fps ramp up when booting up a game persists.

[gusty kiln]

yeah I think it's something to do with shaders

[fickle ore]

Atleast Im not stuck with DP 1.4

[gusty kiln]

but it's only at the beginning and normal afterwards

[fickle ore]

yep but still annoying

[ashen spindle]

I mean, sure I might be amd biased, I just see good things on their roadmap and none on the other comapnies

including intel still having nothing that competes with vcache in some areas

[gusty kiln]

never count out nvidia though

[ashen spindle]

I mean they arent doing an intel but they suddenly got scared of mi300, on consumer gpus that is more in the future what happens there

[gusty kiln]

nvidia has an angry spiteful energy that would never let themselves become lazy like intel

[ashen spindle]

if strix halo is well received the bottom end market of dgpus will maybe be gone after the generation next

[cursive summit]

Strix Halo is VERY pog

But 2025 right? 2025 is such an underwhelming launch date

We could have it right now, why another year to wait

[ashen spindle]

its not about what BMG can do its about how much intel wants to lose money on it

yea

[cursive summit]

Are Intel going to 100% lose money with each GPU?

Like, they can cut costs, they don't need 16GB of VRAM on every single model

[ashen spindle]

look at the die size of the 770 vs the competing radeon gpu

it's like double the area, higher tdp, better node

[cursive summit]

Oh you are right

6nm TSMC vs AMD's 7nm

But isn't 6nm kinda just a derivative of 7nm anyways

[ashen spindle]

yes but still some % better

[cursive summit]

Ah RX 7600 is also 6nm

[ashen spindle]

oh no I mean the rdna2 competition

[cursive summit]

Well yes RDNA2 is 7

RDNA3 seems to be on 6

And about similar-ish in performance

2070S is kinda nuts with that 12nm process

[astral haven]

the techpowerup specs database is not actual performance in game

[cursive summit]

Like, I don't see why A770 needs to have a 16GB model

For B770 or whatever, can't they cut down on the bus size and VRAM and make up the losses

[astral haven]

capacity and bus size are related but not stuck together

you could if you really really wanted to torture yourself stick a gigabyte of vram on a 512b bus or 64gb on a 16b bus

[ashen spindle]

ram is cheap and more ram means you can do well in upcoming stuff, in workstation tasks and things like rt/upscaling when they make use of it

[cursive summit]

Isn't bus size an easy way to cut on expenses?

[ashen spindle]

going for less ram isn't an option and also wouldn't save much

[astral haven]

on the chip side

[cursive summit]

AMD has been very forgiving in terms of VRAM size, but the bus size has been.. lacklustre

[astral haven]

???

i mean somewhat?

but they are being very competitive

6900xt was the only one that was underbussed, but that was due to getting a ton of l3

[ashen spindle]

rnda3 is so far away from saturating memory bandwidth since its overspecced for it's final performance lol

giving it more wouldn't change much

[pale sigil]

Hey quin

[ashen spindle]

maybe on n33?

[pale sigil]

Is it bad running my desktop on an extension lead?

Because I just learned about amps on extension leads and how most people overload or something? Idfk

[ashen spindle]

idk do you have a washer and AC on it too?

[astral haven]

nah ocing the mem does still help a decent bit afaik?

[halcyon moss]

Do you live in 110v land?

[ashen spindle]

if you put nothing else on the extension it makes no difference really

[pale sigil]

230

[ashen spindle]

if youy put some 5w lamps on it it also doesnt matter

[halcyon moss]

Is your cord rated properly?

[pale sigil]

PC and monitors.

Tbf though, that's a lie now.

[halcyon moss]

230v can do over 3000 watt

[pale sigil]

PC is on its own plug these days. 1 gang extension

[halcyon moss]

Depending on the cord rating etc

[astral haven]

as long as its not this hyper sketch type of cable that shouldnt be legal, youll be fine

[cursive summit]

Last I remember reading about ratings, you need to count those Amps

Don't exceed the rated amperage and you will be gucci

[astral haven]

extension cords being bad is for sustained loads

[pale sigil]

https://amzn.eu/d/ciySk0O

[ashen spindle]

like if the cable is a normal cable it's mostly the same as putting it all in different outlets on the same breaker

[halcyon moss]

13amp
230 * 13 =.?

[ashen spindle]

if your gpu spikes alone cover more than the rest of the stuff on it like some low power things like that power strip nothing changes

[cursive summit]

And I still wonder why are they losing money

[ashen spindle]

compare the die sizes

[cursive summit]

Maybe Arc B will have a die shrink, hopefully

[astral haven]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt/33.html

[pale sigil]

Basically thinking of putting that below my desk. (Extension lead)

[astral haven]

also look at the perf/dollar

[halcyon moss]

@pale sigil does your stuff pull more than 3000 watt?

[astral haven]

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt/images/performance-per-dollar-1920-1080.png

[pale sigil]

But the PC will be powered on its own separately.

[halcyon moss]

I hope not. That's a lot of sustained power

[pale sigil]

The wall

[halcyon moss]

1000watt is fine over that cable

[ashen spindle]

I have pc both montors, desk motor and charging cable on the same extension

[pale sigil]

My PC will be plugged into the wall.

[ashen spindle]

and index base stations

[halcyon moss]

Add a laptop to that for me. :p

And a 3rd screen

[fickle ore]

There has been some news that nvidia's recent success made all their employers so rich they're semi retired lmfao. Could very well end up like Intel did in the past. The thing is, the market is cyclical so Intel has learned their lesson. Nvidia may be the next Intel

[halcyon moss]

16 amps (in nl) is usually the absolute max you can pull on a single breaker.

Which is 3_680 watt

[astral haven]

that would be a disaster for consumers

[gusty kiln]

well nvidia is huge and also does not need to worry about a foundry business

[fickle ore]

well yea but dotcom was special :p

[pale sigil]

.AI bubble

[fickle ore]

Having to worry about foundry is a good thing. If Nvidia falls behind on tech, they dont have foundry as a backup

Remains to be seen where it was. It's not visible yet

[ashen spindle]

thats why intel is spinning out the fabs eh

[gusty kiln]

lol no one wants intel febs

they all want tsmc

unless it's cheap stuff

[fickle ore]

Even Nvidia is on Intel fab hopium atm

[ashen spindle]

they want intel fabs to make cheaper chips than it would cost them on tsmc lol

[gusty kiln]

nvidia always do this, they did it with samsung

[ashen spindle]

18A onwards intel could be nice but thats too far in the future to see results

[fickle ore]

Intel is ahead of TSM for newest ASML machines, idk if it was for 18A

[astral haven]

nowhere near as huge of a bubble yet

[ashen spindle]

high NA is for beyond 18A

[fickle ore]

Like I said, too much AMD shilling going on here

[ashen spindle]

what is out there that makes it seem like the rest are in a better spot then

cpus we gotta wait for lunar lake or later to see if intel does well

not to mention data center lmfao

nah they did get the first high-na machine from asml a while ago, asml showed pics of it

but intel also had euv machines for 10nm and we saw how that went

[fickle ore]

We all should hope it's a success for Intel. Be nice to have good progress for once

[ashen spindle]

well yes as consumer I'm worried about the price of zen5 x3d if arrow lake is that mediocre

but that doesnt change the facts that I dont see something better coming for them

[fickle ore]

If Xi is to be trusted on his word for 25 or 27 for Taiwan, u better hope Intel is in good shape or get ready for massive inflation/a lost decade in tech

[gusty kiln]

nah people would just wait for the US branch of TSMC

[ashen spindle]

I'm not insane enough to make predictions about future hardware based on world politics lol

[gusty kiln]

[ashen spindle]

if thats your worry sure intel might have an advantage

[fickle ore]

Doubt it will be that easy

[ashen spindle]

or do they, with their fabs and people in israel which isnt a peaceful country either

[gusty kiln]

literally at war

[fickle ore]

idc which has advantage lol, just saying its stupid to rely only on TSM and keep shitting on Intel.

[ashen spindle]

but from just technological standpoint from roadmaps and co that we know, how could I not be shilling amd

[gusty kiln]

lol why are you associating TSMC with AMD shilling

Apple is the bigger client

[fickle ore]

Im not, and with amd shilling its mostly Vex's comments but w/e

[gusty kiln]

AMD is like 3rd

[fickle ore]

its just exhausting to read the backhanded slights at intel at every turn

its stopped being funny back in 2021

[ashen spindle]

tell intel to make better products?

[gusty kiln]

and intel official bashing of AMD?

which they had to cowardly remove?

[fickle ore]

I would hope they are, its just taking so long to turn that heavy ship

idiots kept resting on their laurels

[ashen spindle]

yeah but so far it's no signs of the turning happening lol

so I continue and point and laugh

[fickle ore]

thank god we have the new CEO

[ashen spindle]

usually we wouldn't even be talking about arrow lake much yet but we got such devastating slides so early on it's hard to make fun of intel

[fickle ore]

Tbh you can't expect the new CEO to turn ship in 2 years

It'll take like 3-5

[ashen spindle]

sure but anything we are currently looking at is still not showing good promise lol

[fickle ore]

IFS and Mobileye are doing p good, others no

[ashen spindle]

arrow lake started definition same quarter as pat joined

and it's looking very not great

current metor lake mostly has issues on low power mode so it's a fine laptop chip but wont end in handhelds and wont compete with apple options really

[fickle ore]

Im not up to date on latest tech and whatnot, but how is the parity if each gen was normalized to same node e.g TSMC's?

[ashen spindle]

idk that doesnt even make sense to compare

[fickle ore]

But it does, you can see where Intel would be and where it is now, had their IFS kept up with TSMC

[ashen spindle]

they are using tsmc for tiles lol

[astral haven]

the only way to find that stuff out is by having the same product on the two nodes to compare
but that would be awfully dumb because tsmc is better at some things and intel is better at others (think cache vs clocks)

[ashen spindle]

thats meteor lake

[fickle ore]

Right. I guess we'll know when Intel catches up.

[ashen spindle]

no because you design stuff around a node, normalizing doesn't really exist because on another node you would do things differently

and it's not really an isse of tsmc being ahead if most of the chips is made on tsmc lol

oh yeah also meteor lake got delayed at least twice, and desktop parts canned, not a great look either xD

[fickle ore]

Sure sure, but the market is definitely anticipating something.

And Pat's tenure is just 2 years by now. Plenty of time.

[ashen spindle]

idk what the market has to do with the products being bad

[fickle ore]

Everyone knows the products suck now no question about it

[ashen spindle]

and so do the upcoming products

hoping that the next-next gen fixes it is valid but I'm not going to shill for a company where I need to wait for that to maybe see something better

[fickle ore]

Market disagrees, not that it means much

[ashen spindle]

yeah the market also makes a stock go up when you say AI often enough

[astral haven]

well noone is buying the products that dont exist yet

[ashen spindle]

like the market doesnt care how big mi300 is that it made nvidia to a fail of a pr stunt about it

they cared that lisa saids its the fastest product to ramp to 2billion

that moves the market

but if that comes from the product being great or black magic isn't show in the market price

[astral haven]

the actual performance of the product is usually priced in by launch thanks to speculation

the part that happens after launch is the reaction to the launch

[ashen spindle]

and because expected sales and such is known before in financial calls

[fickle ore]

They're pretty well estimated

[ashen spindle]

so arrow lake coming in Q4 2024 isnt priced into price yet

[astral haven]

if anyone is saying that, they are lying

if its public knowledge, its priced in

[fickle ore]

Not sure, something is being priced in right now by looking at the graph. Whether it's more of a intel comeback story or arrow lake I dont know

[ashen spindle]

yeah well look at what those numbers say after next amd server options launched and people are wanting xeons even less

[wheat plume]

Telegram removed the Monet themed icon......
WHY??!!

[final flame]

it's always about the themed icons aint it

[halcyon moss]

Lana? Design?

It'll be the most beautiful programmer art

[potent arch]

wifi flex

[wheat plume]

They pushed an update to fix it 😍

[steep creek]

lol

[reef patrol]

One of those is ... not like the other though.

Whatsapp is wrong.

[wheat plume]

wrong?

[reef patrol]

It should be inverted to match the other two.

[wheat plume]

oh yeah

Google leaves the design of these icons to the app devs.. so they arent always consistent in outlining :/

[ashen spindle]

man I couldn't even tell you what telegram or whatsapp icons on my phone look like lol

I know where they are and I just press them

[steep creek]

same i just search for them in spotlight

[wheat plume]

spotlight shows app icons right?

[steep creek]

yeah but i dont pay much attention to them

[final flame]

I like being able to differentiate icons by color

[digital cliff]

same I think I press discord and musicolet just because they are the color I expect them to be

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

all of this could have been so easily avoided... if only nvidia would have used the eps connector and not decided on this trash

[vagrant pagoda]

Yep, pcie connectors only exists because they only wanted to certify psus in 75 bumps

[ashen spindle]

even if its fixed still a waste to use yet another connector

or just be the same, imagine we had a 24 pin or something as the main one and the rest is all 8/6+2 eps pins

and also all the same pinout so different cables dont kill stuff

so much easier, so much less waste

[empty wren]

Definitely a good camera to consider

[cinder tinsel]

does the internal brass wight bar in the tofu 60redux affect on keyboard's sound?

[cinder tinsel]

or it just adds extra weight

[empty wren]

Camera quality on the newest ones looks amazing as well

Especially the low light performance

[astral haven]

Eh
I've really not been impressed by the reviews so far
I really wish that they would try to beat phone quality

[astral haven]

Ye now that's something you can't do with a phone

[severe phoenix]

https://twitter.com/AfterTimeX/status/1738266579110961660

Flash cart for the Switch

[vagrant pagoda]

@astral haven didn't you say the new exynos was better?

[astral haven]

The old exynos was better than snapdragon

The new exynos is better than the old exynos

Doesn't mean new exynos is better than new snapdragon

Also new exynos is not fantastic, look at tensor for the most recent exynos

[vagrant pagoda]

Ah

Yeah just saw a s23 review

Same performance with 20% less battery life

[astral haven]

S23 doesn't have an exynos variant does it?

Maybe it's just the s23u that was pure snapdragon and the lower variants got exynosed?

[vagrant pagoda]

The FE has both

[astral haven]

Fe is a very different device

[vagrant pagoda]

It's a SD 8 gen 1 vs exynos 2200

[astral haven]

Yea the 2200 was pretty trash

Faster than the 888 but also on a vastly better node for the same battery

And was late

[vagrant pagoda]

2200 is the newest

[astral haven]

Yes and no

2300 existed but was canceled because of how shit it is

And the 2400 exists and is releasing in less than a month

But the newest exynos chips are the tensors

They don't use the Radeon gpu, but the Radeon gpu was proven to be garbage by the 2200 anyways so it doesn't matter

Tensor g2 (oct 22) was released after the 2200 (feb 22) and the g3 came after that

Exynos is like Radeon, you don't really want to buy an exynos, the snapdragons are more expensive for barely better, but you don't want the competition to go away entirely...

[reef patrol]

The only way to get an affordable GPU these days

[final flame]

damn

[halcyon moss]

By ai generating it

[reef patrol]

Da comrades. We shall of using other people's gpu to craft ours.

[analog sinew]

as if lego prices were any good

[fair gull]

"affordable"

[ashen spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofKw9SU9OOk

[ashen spindle]

ok 8€ switch arrived today already, cable changed ang everything works

[reef patrol]

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/i3sRSS6fN0g

cool video about QubesOS :D

[cinder tinsel]

can someone find a good gaming pc on amazon up to 700-800 pounds?

[pale sigil]

If you can't get a 6800xt what's the next best thing ATM

Outstanding

Ty

Why is the 6800xt so behind the 3080

Oh

Ignore me

[reef patrol]

[halcyon moss]

we do, we do.

[cursive summit]

4070 pricing is absolutely ass

Wish Nvidia wasn't so greedy

Thinking of maybe upgrading to a 6800XT, they can be found used for sum 350-ish which is a banger deal

[rotund crypt]

prices will decrease in like a month

[cursive summit]

Who are you, Nvidia insider?

[rotund crypt]

super cards will be released in january

for the 4070, ti and 4080

[cursive summit]

And who told you that

[rotund crypt]

what

lmao

[analog sinew]

its been leaked like 5 times

it's pretty certain

[cursive summit]

Yeah yeah it's on CES

January 8

Too bad prices don't just magically fall on 17th or shortly after

Especially if you are not in america

Could be worth lurking on ebay or such to hop on some panic sellers

[rotund crypt]

i know thats a thing people do

camping on ebay once new cards come out

to get good deals

but is it really that effective

like if you have that strategy in mind, so have 1000 others

someone delibarely buying a 4070 isnt upgrading immediatly once a 4070 super or whatever comes out

since they arent seeking for the best anyways

[merry quest]

I am not sure if this is common or the correct channel for this post but while i have my left control key pressed I cannot press W key but I can press S,A,D key while I have left control held down. Can anyone help?

[pale sigil]

@ashen spindle I was wrong btw, the cable management pic I sent wasn't what it meant.

That was to hold the power thing.

The cable tray covers everything where

Kinda nice

[thick elk]

For the Dutch people among us, that work with web:
https://github.com/w3c/eurlreq/issues/6
One way in which Firefox is clearly superior to other browsers.
Took them more than 20 years to fix the issue but they did it in the end: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92176

[digital cliff]

what a pedantic bugfix

I love it

[astral haven]

https://techpowerup.com/review/hifiman-svanar-wireless-tws-anc-earphones/
r2r tws iems lel

@ashen spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERm1StY-4uY
??????

[ashen spindle]

yeah did see it already

[astral haven]

magicleap 2???

[ashen spindle]

yeah I forgot about mero but thats not news

[astral haven]

new(s) to me

[ashen spindle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-mero-low-power-zen2-rdna2-apu-has-spotted-running-android-os-for-magic-leap-ar-headset

may 22

not the exact same chip

[astral haven]

except its the other way around apparently

mero is the original with less parts disabled

[ashen spindle]

well yeah makes sense

van gogh made for surface, gets canned, mero for magic leap and then valve is like "uhhh we could buy that from you"

[astral haven]

and surface needs the IPU for the cameras too

its all coming together

[ashen spindle]

but it is nice I can finally link something to lana the next time she wants to argue that valve designed the steam deck chip

[astral haven]

well now theres the new one

and that one very well could have been valve requested

[ashen spindle]

which is custom made to valve yeah bc volume demand is there now

[thick elk]

Didn't watch the video before, but interesting find.
It does make some sense to share a semi-custom design with multiple companies.

[ashen spindle]

it was known before just obviously off the record now we have something in hardware that wouldn't make sense otherwise

[wheat plume]

purely functional for loop is cool :D

[ashen spindle]

lana that's just a recursive function..

[thick elk]

I just never looked at it in this detail, but everything together makes sense.
The Deck was meant to ship at least a decent unit count but not enough for custom silicon per se.
Magic leap had a lot of investor money behind it that could bankroll the endevour.

[astral haven]

also probably compiler hell

[ashen spindle]

yes recursion for just a foor loop is a horrible idea

[ashen spindle]

well the original design was still made for a surface project, idk if they said add these blocks for magic leap too or if magic leap said we want this with one extra bit or how it went down, but even magic leap didnt make this entirely custom

[astral haven]

the timing of that isnt exactly perfect tho, and magicleap isnt that rich of a company
the microsoft project does still make sense

[ashen spindle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion_(computer_science)

[rustic flame]

i got a 4080 off amazon for like 900 a year ago

amazon marketplace goes hard

[neon wyvern]

@sudden glacier @plain axle After years not using my Wooting One (old desktop died and working with laptops) I installed Wootility on my new desktop and offcours my One needs an update. Unfortunately I get an error doing the update after following the instructions and unplugging and re-plugging my One and clicking the restart button nothing happens.

with both the douwnloaded and online Wootility

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[latent mural]

clas olsson

[pale sigil]

At last, a desk that's not wonky.

[latent mural]

karma

[pale sigil]

Am I an esports gamer now

Karma? I put it down that low

It's adjustable

[woven laurel]

I didnt know playing bingo on pc was esports

[latent mural]

Karma for you ruining Christmas

[pale sigil]

but nothing has happened

[winged ether]

CONSUMERISM LETS GOOO

[timber mantle]

Maya?

[latent mural]

Who needs that many miles

Mouses

[winged ether]

yep.

[latent mural]

What the hell is they

Can someone send me a invite like to finalmouse a server

[timber mantle]

Looks like a Lamzu Atlantis, Pulsar X2, and Viper Mini?

[winged ether]

dav3

[latent mural]

U guys know too much ab mouse’s lol

I went from a Razer lancehead

To a glorious model o wireless

To what’s ab to be a final mouse ulx

[timber mantle]

Dammit. I was thinking that but I couldn't tell for sure if it was an ergo.

Why a Maya if may ask

[crisp granite]

Becky wasn’t available

[winged ether]

I like trying different shapes

[timber mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/get-the-fuck-out-gtfo-get-out-go-away-gif-8055436

[timber mantle]

Fair enough. I want a Thorn.

Or an X2V2H Founders Edition

[crisp granite]

My bad 😞

[timber mantle]

Fine.

You can stay.

[crisp granite]

I’m gone 🫥

[timber mantle]

Nooooooooooooooooo

[winged ether]

I was actually torn between getting the Thorn or Maya, but I figured since I already had a dav3 I would rather try a new shape.

[winged ether]

ok im glad ur off glorious

[timber mantle]

Does glorious have any return customers?

I feel like people move on from them after the first experience.

[winged ether]

I know some people who swear by Glorious, so I guess they got really lucky with qc

[latent mural]

Is glorious the mouse with dpi as colors?

[winged ether]

I think of it as a fad when there weren't as many amazing options as we have now.

[wheat plume]

TIL Safari on MacOS automatically opens videos, photos, text files and some other files automatically when you download them

Seems really annoying if you downloaded a bunch at once

Just get spammed with multiple videos or images opening at once

[pale sigil]

xD my back is not enjoying the standing desk rn

[crisp granite]

You’re tripping balls

It doesn’t actually do that

either that or it’s a setting you can turn off and I did

[wheat plume]

That

:')

You turned it off and forgot you did

[crisp granite]

sounds like something I'd do