🔌│tech

[cursive summit]

@latent mural lad, you listening or debating people for no reason?

Rtings, hub and a fuck ton other reviewers reviewed the M27Q-X as the best display to buy for 500$

Get the M27QX, it's in your price range

Good as hell monitor

[hasty thunder]

1080p, 24.5", 0.5 ms response time

[drowsy prawn]

Panel type?

[drowsy prawn]

Or nvm imma look it up

[hasty thunder]

and only costs about 200 bucks, it's discontinued tho

[raw zephyr]

i'm way more than happy with my xl2546, been using it for many years and probably many years to go

1ms or 4ms who cares dude

[hasty thunder]

people who think 8k polling rates are a game changer

[drowsy prawn]

Bruh 0.03ms

The best ones

What budget u talking

[solemn remnant]

I was talking about the weird looking stand

[dire harbor]

lol 0.03 seems a bit fast 😄

[drowsy prawn]

Bruh 0.4ms is less than 4ms

[cursive summit]

You not a fan of transformers?

[cursive summit]

Sounds impossible without OLED

Not even sure if OLED is that fast

[drowsy prawn]

And the other guy says false

[cursive summit]

Dunno who the other guy is

[drowsy prawn]

PG27AQDM

[cursive summit]

But I would like to see an unbiased source verifying those claims

[drowsy prawn]

Check @latent mural

[dire harbor]

anyway, came to link this guy making snake with 76 bytes 😄 https://github.com/donno2048/snake

[solemn remnant]

hmmmmmmmmmmm no

[cursive summit]

It must be Michael Bay innit?

[raw zephyr]

he pushed a zip to a repo

inverse ghosting 0%

[drowsy prawn]

Average. I thought we were talking bout the least. I think were not on the same page

[solemn remnant]

I've actually never seen any of the movies, just the old cartoon

[drowsy prawn]

But still .20ms is impressive

Ngl

[dire harbor]

not missing anything

[solemn remnant]

no doubt

[dire harbor]

I'm waiting and hoping for some good 500hz stuff coming out soon-ish

[raw zephyr]

can you even reach 500 fps?

[dire harbor]

easily

[gusty kiln]

Only in like 3 games

[cursive summit]

In Stardew Valley and browser

[dire harbor]

the ones I need the monitor for 😄

[cursive summit]

500Hz is absolute nonsense

[raw zephyr]

probably valorant or cs

[cursive summit]

But there is a 500Hz out already innit? Launched like a week back

[drowsy prawn]

Ye lcd arent a thing in highend monitors

[dire harbor]

CS yeah, also Quake type games

[drowsy prawn]

Or mid tier

[dire harbor]

yeah a couple are out, not sure about one week ago, will check

[vagrant pagoda]

Tribes

[solemn remnant]

anything other than cs isn't even worth playing

[raw zephyr]

quake type games, like?

[dire harbor]

shit I miss that game

[solemn remnant]

alright tribes was pretty cool

[dire harbor]

I love Diabotical for example

[drowsy prawn]

Lets see what asus will release. There were sneak peaks of a 540hz from them

[solemn remnant]

and quakeworld and qwtf

[dire harbor]

better than Quake for me but low playerbase, sadly

[dire harbor]

yeah waiting for that one

[vagrant pagoda]

I would want to see if ghosting is any better at 540 than 220

[gusty kiln]

I bet ulmb 2 at 360hz will still look better than 500hz

[raw zephyr]

ql, cpma, qw are all 250fps limited iirc

[drowsy prawn]

But itll problly cost 1500 usd

[raw zephyr]

definitely ql and cpma

[dire harbor]

not playing anything out of those

[vagrant pagoda]

That's real fast to be twisting

[drowsy prawn]

Lets see what panel will it have

[drowsy prawn]

Thatll determine it mostly

[latent mural]

I need a Monitor

Please link

[drowsy prawn]

What specs???

[solemn remnant]

best panel

[dire harbor]

stardew is locked at 60fps btw 😄

[raw zephyr]

imo 500hz is worthless, barely any use out of that

[drowsy prawn]

Hahaha noice

[gusty kiln]

360 with good strobbing is the best atm

[dire harbor]

CSGO runs at average 600-700 for me

[drowsy prawn]

360 is already so high that there isnt a difference that u csn ser

[raw zephyr]

sure 500hz panel can give you strobing headroom

[dire harbor]

human eye can discern at least up to 1000hz, not sure what you mean 🙂

[raw zephyr]

but is it any different from 360hz? don't think so

[drowsy prawn]

Same. Probablly unnoticable

[solemn remnant]

nah it's gonna get replaced

yes

my uncle is gaben

[dire harbor]

nvidia engineers said that noticable differences come when doubling, so 144 -> 300, 240 -> 480 etc

[solemn remnant]

more like dota engine switch moment tbh

[drowsy prawn]

Ye 2x differences not 1.5x

[dire harbor]

obsolete? CS2 is coming out, less fps but still optimised imo

[drowsy prawn]

So ye

[dire harbor]

I have 240hz atm, so ye

[rough osprey]

https://twitter.com/ASUS/status/1696410185416511543?t=nGM-2CRwxdZycmU0ChEh_g&s=19

ASUS (@ASUS)

We would like to address the rumors regarding our Zenfone product line:

ASUS Zenfone 10 will not be our last Zenfone product.

We will continue our two main phone product lines: ROG Phone and Zenfone.

ASUS has a strong commitment to our smartphone business and customers.

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lol

[drowsy prawn]

I can decide between pg27aqn and aqdm

[dire harbor]

likely, probably still gonna leave the servers up for a while, but ultimately yeah

[drowsy prawn]

So like 240 oled or 360 ips

[dire harbor]

I wager with 13900k and 4090 I'll manage close to 500, if nothing else, on low

but might be wrong

[drowsy prawn]

7800x3d better imo

[solemn remnant]

it literally exists in the same repository as CSGO, it won't be available after CS2 launches

[gusty kiln]

Do you care about image quality or motion smoothness

[drowsy prawn]

Oled has less ghosting

[gusty kiln]

360 has ulmb 2

[vagrant pagoda]

I mean strobing makes ghosting apear to be zero

[drowsy prawn]

And better image quality

But there are compromises

[vagrant pagoda]

Even if it's still there

[drowsy prawn]

Ye i forgor srry

[vagrant pagoda]

Because brain is dumb

[dire harbor]

can confirm, brain is dumb

[gusty kiln]

Gsync don't matter for those type of games

[solemn remnant]

all that matters is that it's off

[cursive summit]

Hell yeah

[drowsy prawn]

Ye frfr

[cursive summit]

Zenfones not leaving

[vagrant pagoda]

High frame rate makes gsync less usefull

As the chance of getting partial frame is so low because of how low frame time is

[drowsy prawn]

The aqn has a brighter screen

[gusty kiln]

You're going to have better motion handling with the 360 ips with ulmb2

[drowsy prawn]

Optimum refeers to it as the fastes

[gusty kiln]

But if you want oled just get the oled

[drowsy prawn]

Idc bout the image quality. If i cared i would have got the G9 from samsung 💀

[gusty kiln]

Then why are you even asking the question

Just get the 360 hz

[drowsy prawn]

Cuz i wanted to maybe know about other aspects of oled

That are better than ips

Like backlight strobing

[gusty kiln]

There is no strobbing on oled

At least with monitors

[drowsy prawn]

But there is on ips and i didnt know that

[dire harbor]

yeah I am really excited about OLED in general, but the early versions have a tad of a problem with burn-ins, no?

[cursive summit]

OLEDs could be viable panel tech if virtually everything got OLED optimizations

[gusty kiln]

Cuz it damages it apparently

[cursive summit]

But since barely anything has any OLED optimizations, I am way too scared to get an OLED for a display

Way too many UI elements, taskbars, static elements to burn in permanently

Windows can be optimized to mitigate burn in, browsers somewhat, but afaik barely any games offer disappearing UI elements

[drowsy prawn]

Good to know

[dire harbor]

but mostly televisions until now, for mainstream? for gaming monitors its the recent years afaik

[drowsy prawn]

Doesnt asus have a software option that helps not to get a burn in?

[dire harbor]

and while TVs have better handled the burnin, the batches for gaming monitors have quite bad issues with burnin

I was checking some recent monitors and they got burnin after 4-6 months

[solemn remnant]

I've had an oled tv since uh 2014, LG CX for the last 3 years, no problems there. haven't used it as a pc monitor tho

[dire harbor]

came out this year I think, not sure which model from the top of the head

also I think Asus or someone refused burnin protection

[raw zephyr]

i dunno mates it's consumer electronics, it will die at some point, like batteries

[drowsy prawn]

Thats good. That means theyre confident with their product or sum

Oh

Okay

[dire harbor]

batteries dont cost 1500 eur so you can use them for 1 year 🙂

[raw zephyr]

your tv, pc, headphones will eventually die

[dire harbor]

as will I

[drowsy prawn]

I think he means smth like everythink will break sooner or later

[solemn remnant]

mortality

[raw zephyr]

just use the oled normally, i wouldn't go full schizo to save burn in

[dire harbor]

I agree, but moot point in this case

[rough osprey]

oled got the weird pixel subpixel layout

[dire harbor]

I specifically mean people having burn in after 6 months of usage

if it gets burn in after 4 years, fine

[drowsy prawn]

We dont know what were they doing to them

Model?

[raw zephyr]

even those will eventually die

[drowsy prawn]

Sqare ones?

Square

[dire harbor]

yeah it was made by different standards

[drowsy prawn]

They look nice

Fit?

[dire harbor]

sick aesthethics

[drowsy prawn]

So for fps games ips 360 will be better than 240 oled

Like mw2 valorant csgo type

[raw zephyr]

what do you use to power them @latent mural

[rough osprey]

the lg / asus oled still seems to have some black crush

[drowsy prawn]

Gaming type?

[raw zephyr]

i've tried so many expensive headphones just to go back to my old hd600 and love them the most

[drowsy prawn]

I heard that when using the aqn with gsync u can get a flashing black screen

[rough osprey]

so yeah oled still has a lot of things to get better at

[drowsy prawn]

Like for example steelseries makes gaming based headphones that have a built i mic or sum

[raw zephyr]

relatively cheap in audio space, comfortable and they sound the best to me

audio is very subjective, i see a lot of people hate on the hd600

[drowsy prawn]

So sonar comes in handy

For that

[raw zephyr]

ol ksc75

[drowsy prawn]

Ive had the arctis 7s for 4 years now i think imma need to switch, they die fast, dont have the best microphone

I think imma go for the nova pros with hot swappable batteries

Steelseries have overall bad marketing

Battery?

Maybe dp990 pro or sum

But an external mic

Wym usb one?

They cost 30 bucks?

But wym by usb headphones?

Oh

I get it

But wy think about dp990 pros?

They were my second option

[gusty kiln]

Depends if you can handle the treble

[drowsy prawn]

Ye

I forgor the name

[halcyon moss]

open backed every one can hear you :p

[drowsy prawn]

Any more context?

[halcyon moss]

i got the dt770pro, i love 'm

[vagrant pagoda]

Yeah only USB headphones worth it are wireless imo

[drowsy prawn]

But what edition did u have?

There are editions that are more comfortable thats why i was asking

[halcyon moss]

huh?

[drowsy prawn]

Different material used on the ear pads

Im rocking airpods. Are they comparable?

Like serious

[gusty kiln]

Pc38x still a good deal for gaming

[drowsy prawn]

Or a completete different?

Oh okay np

And would you reccomend for a mice?

No budget whatsoever

I tried to get the ulx but i missed them by an hour

Im dumb

I guess

The revievs are not there yet so maybe it was agood thing

Idk how did they get the same weight as the mk2

Same. But the mk2 was released 1 year ago

Is there a release date?

And price?

HOLY

thats expensive

More???

NAH IT HAS TO WEIGHT -1 grams in order for me to buy it

No way

Or have a 1bln hz polling rate

And rapid trigger

💀💀

Crazy

What will it have

That makes it 600

Ohh were getting there

Polling rate? 16-32k?

Optimum will have it first

For sure

Nah i aint buying

No way

Same

Need to see the revievs

Thats a good idea

But idk bout it

Maybe hologramic

💀

They finna copy nvidia

[rough osprey]

new sony cameras looking nice

[drowsy prawn]

Which one?

[rough osprey]

a7cii and a7cr

[drowsy prawn]

I have a nikon from 2010

[rough osprey]

lol

[drowsy prawn]

But maybe will buy smth

Sooner or later

[rough osprey]

good idea

probably get something cheaper tho

[drowsy prawn]

For sure

[gusty kiln]

@prisma crag https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-5-3336135/

Would you? More expensive but repairable

Not sure if graphene OS is supported

[cursive summit]

Only Sony here

Repairability I don't really care about, what would happen to the phone that a 2 year+ warranty doesn't cover

[drowsy prawn]

Cameras?

[cursive summit]

Phones

I don't use cameras in general

So the cameras on phones are kind of useless

[drowsy prawn]

Oh

[cursive summit]

What matters to me is 3.5mm jack, good design, nice screen

[rough osprey]

Having 1 camera phones would be cool

[drowsy prawn]

What phone u got?

[rough osprey]

all that money for something u dont use

[drowsy prawn]

Like model

[drowsy prawn]

Yea. Theyre trying to standardize 3 cams

NICE. Arent they the makers of 8s pro?

[rough osprey]

so sad

just give me a normal wideangle to maybe shoot a document

[drowsy prawn]

I have 3 cams so i cant say anything really

[cursive summit]

I wish they made high-end phones with cheap ass cameras

[rough osprey]

i have 4...

on the back

[drowsy prawn]

Samsung?

[rough osprey]

ye

[drowsy prawn]

M35 or smth?

[rough osprey]

s21u

[cursive summit]

The cheaper the phone, the better, I just require a Snapdragon 8g1+ at very least

[drowsy prawn]

Ahh i have an iphone

I can see. Like as if they stopped carring

[halcyon moss]

rm realme

[drowsy prawn]

Why realme

Not redmagic

[halcyon moss]

idk, someone used abbreviations for no reason

[drowsy prawn]

Ik but yk the context was about gaming phones. So an abbrevation was clear

But i aint got no problem

How u feel bout it?

Any downsides?

Oh good to know

Good to know

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/1WiIX2aUq9E

[cursive summit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intels-next-gen-arc-battlemage-bmg-g10-gpu-reportedly-already-in-the-labs

Intel saves the day with a Battlemage 2024 launch

Tbf for a tiny bit it is entirely possible that cards up to like 7900XT and 4070Ti will be matched by Battlemage

Then next gen comes out and Intel becomes irrelevant again

[astral haven]

🤷 intel is more relevant than ever

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-reportedly-discontinues-navi-33-no-more-radeon-rx-6600-series

[astral haven]

they have been making incredible strides with their drivers, and neither nv or amd have released competitive products yet

[cursive summit]

Man I hate the word "discontinues"

It's almost like AMD just dropped support altogether for 6600

Why can't they just say "stopped production"

[astral haven]

well to be entirely fair thats literally the same word everyone else uses where it doesnt mean dropped support either

[cursive summit]

I wonder how many years worth of drivers will 6000 series continue to get

Polaris I think still gets drivers

And that's... 8 years old?

[astral haven]

keep in mind driver releases dont mean much if they arent getting optimized

[cursive summit]

So drivers until 2030 maybe

[fickle ore]

lets goo intel

[astral haven]

remember radeon cannot be trusted for long term support
all of their previous products they stopped making drivers for without fixing the major bugs

nvidia at least has their last drivers be to some extent stable

[hasty thunder]

oof, didn't expect such a temperature drop when i was cleaning and repasting the PC of my friend

[fickle ore]

Was this posted yesterday https://www.anandtech.com/show/20034/hot-chips-2023-intel-details-granite-rapids-and-sierra-forest-xeons?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow

[hasty thunder]

she had 50°C in idle before, now she's at 28°C

[cursive summit]

Don't recall this one

[astral haven]

fyi gotta remember to restart pcs before checking temps
sometimes when they are on for a while background programs pile up

[cursive summit]

Intel really exceeds in marketing ngl

They namedrop all these tech they are working on

[astral haven]

wow you have no self awareness lel

[cursive summit]

Only to get still murdered by Zen 5

[fickle ore]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/intel-projected-to-pump-out-365000-meteor-lake-cpus-a-month

yes

[hasty thunder]

we've applied her overclocks and ran it for an hour in idle by now

[cursive summit]

Which gen is meteor?

Current right?

13th

[astral haven]

yea i meant for the before vs after comparison

[astral haven]

no its 14th gen mobile

[fickle ore]

Carmon ben will tell you bc I cant without a wiki

[cursive summit]

Idk

[hasty thunder]

she's shutting down her PC every day

so we've expected that the CPU needs a repaste

[gusty kiln]

I shut down everyday

Crazy to see the uptimes of people who never shut down

[astral haven]

ah fair enough
still if you use the pc for a bit stuff just ends up running in the background
you probably dropped 15c from repasting but id be shocked if you dropped less than 5c idle just by restarting the computer

[hasty thunder]

good thing i had a sealed Kryonaut tube in my backpack when i traveled to the US

honestly? She used some crappy paste she got for 5 bucks before

first i just wanted to clean her PC, then it struck me that i have a tube in my backpack

bad thing is that it's one of my 38 gr tubes

so i have to leave it there before flying back home

and 38 gr of that stuff's worth 70€

[astral haven]

you mean the discord default color for nitro boosting?

[hasty thunder]

i can be pervy too if you like

[astral haven]

im just saying that thats the default discord color for nitro boosting...

[gusty kiln]

Overwatch?

[hasty thunder]

i mean i'm not hiding the fact that i'm a nymphomaniac, so there's that

[cursive summit]

Ah you... must be that fetish you have for cracking and hacking

[hasty thunder]

[astral haven]

if its a carreer we dont call it a fetish lel

[cursive summit]

Don't jump to conclusions yet

[ashen spindle]

it is funny how they call it "leadership performance" when it's going to lead only in powerdraw

[gusty kiln]

We're mostly adults here

[hasty thunder]

1000W 14900KS would be...

[cursive summit]

Please tell me how you can fetishize something like using a bypass exploit on windows

[hasty thunder]

[fickle ore]

u salty bc loaded on amd

[astral haven]

is bergamo 12ch ddr5?

[steep creek]

lol

[cursive summit]

Sorry, no

[hasty thunder]

oh no...

pls no

[ashen spindle]

next year means its going to compete with zen5, and sierra forest will still have no avx512 bc ecores

[cursive summit]

Look, I already can guess what's up

[astral haven]

oh yep it is
so yea as long as they match perf/w and perf/dollar

[cursive summit]

I had enough

[pale sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-cry-always-be-my-maybe-sad-sip-wine-sad-gif-22976719

[fickle ore]

yep

[rough osprey]

what is going on here

[astral haven]

lol we are all talking to strangers on the internet, what even is normal?

[rough osprey]

wooting users are normal

[hasty thunder]

Well, it is weird, but not quite as weird as the stuff i had to deal with when i was active on nsfw servers

[cursive summit]

It's alright, we all love you anyways

[rough osprey]

everyone else is weird

[astral haven]

it is in fact still fast, and as long as it can saturate that 12 channels for big time compute tasks, it will work just fine

bf16 is biiiiig for LLMs

[ashen spindle]

a rewarmed saphire rapids that is called emerald and e-cores spam just isnt going to be "leadership products" vs Zen5(c), I'm not going to say it doesnt work fine

[hasty thunder]

aaaaanyways, guys and girls, it's time for me to hit the road. Let's just hope i'm getting through NYCs traffic

[fickle ore]

happens when u get old

[gusty kiln]

Might as well walk

[astral haven]

again tho you gotta remember how to define leadership
if its cheaper, it can be better perf/dollar

[gusty kiln]

I feel claustrophobic whenever I'm in NYC or even LA

[ashen spindle]

it needs to be soooo much cheaper then

[fickle ore]

wait for benchmark

[gusty kiln]

Wait for Markbench

[ashen spindle]

!remind me in 6 months

[astral haven]

n300 is leadership at 10 watts already...

[ashen spindle]

this is intel xeon, not low power areas

[astral haven]

???

efficiency is efficiency

[ashen spindle]

if they market it as leadership because at 10w the 500W chip beats turin, that can only go to idk 20w sure, good job marketing xD

[astral haven]

????

quin im sure you know exactly what i mean

[fickle ore]

quin bagholding too much amd ☠️

[ashen spindle]

yeah and I'm saying there is no shot intel is winning at any of that vs zen5

[astral haven]

i think youll be shocked for some apps

[ashen spindle]

I think I have literally only 2 shares left lol

[cursive summit]

You have me sold on Zen 5 at this point

I hope the performance boost is genuinely meaningful

Although it seems that CPUs nowadays are more than powerful enough for most workloads

GPUs is where we need to advance more

[gusty kiln]

Lol vex needing to be sold on an AMD product

[astral haven]

you came to that conclusion without evidence and wont listen to any evidence otherwise...

[cursive summit]

Well, if it makes any difference, I'm not buying RX 7000 series

Or 7000 series CPUs for that matter

In general, leaning more Nvidia if only those cucks made the prices lower

[ashen spindle]

yeah I mean I'm just saying what people say where I know they have either second or nearly firsthand info, but I havent said anything except I think zen5 is going to be really great here xD

but you shouldn't trust tertiary info like that easily

[astral haven]

🤷 i think that SFR or whatever its called is releasing first and is gonna end up cheaper
and considering its the same ddr bandwidth, it will run LLMs the same except cheaper

[cursive summit]

Zen 5 should be one of the very last Jim Keller brainchildren

So it'll be great

[fickle ore]

still bugged infi fabric prob

[ashen spindle]

dont think jim had much if any influence

same IO die

that isnt changing till zen6

[astral haven]

jim is a process and first principles dood

[ashen spindle]

think he also left before anything besides thoughts about zen5 was even put on paper

[astral haven]

not an actual gigabrain cpu wizard.

[ashen spindle]

also keep in mind his intel cpu would be arrow lake and we have seen what intel thinks they can get from that xD

no bueno

[astral haven]

noyce was a gigabrain wizard

[ashen spindle]

mike clark would be lead for zen cores really

but hes also no one man army

[astral haven]

yup this aint the old days

[ashen spindle]

but hey, mike was shilling zen5 before 4 even released

[astral haven]

yea well the dude probably just finished up work on z5 and was moving on the z6

[ashen spindle]

nope other way around

[astral haven]

what

[ashen spindle]

he was working at something further xD

MC: It's going be great! I wish I could tell you of all what's coming. I have this annual architecture meeting where we go over everything that's going on, and at one of them (I won't say when) the team and I went through Zen 5. I learned a lot, because of nowadays as running the roadmap, I don't get as close to the design as I wish I could. Coming out of that meeting, I just wanted to close my eyes, go to sleep, and then wake up and buy this thing. I want to be in the future, this thing is awesome and it's going be so great - I can't wait for it. The hard part of this business is knowing how long it takes to get what you have conceived to a point where you can build it to production.

in his 2021 interview with ian

[astral haven]

yea well

amd has had alot of stinkers that looked great in the lab...

i dont doubt that this likely wont be one of them

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah sure, just a funny thing that I rememberd a while ago xD

[vale crypt]

i need help to connect my keyboard with the application

[vagrant pagoda]

the web or download app?

[vale crypt]

download app

[vagrant pagoda]

that should just work

you have the newest version of the app?

[gusty kiln]

Isn't there a reset

Could try that

[reef patrol]

Already guided onto #1019723042244534282 since this is double movement

[cursive summit]

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/08/29/apple-buys-all-3nm-tsmc-chips-2023/

TSMC might want to build some extra fabs

[ashen spindle]

no this is bad reporting

N3B is the node apple is using here and nobody else wants that

N3E is what they all use which comes a bit later

bc the original N3 took an intel 10nm and was trash so they had to revision it

[shadow minnow]

Talking about Apple

[ashen spindle]

time to see M3 probably

with like barely any uplift yet again

[vagrant pagoda]

i mean this is normal

almost every gen apple gets the first run of a node size

tsmc then improves that node and offers it to others

TSMC may be AMD's best friend, but Apple is TSMC's best friend

[vagrant pagoda]

n3 was renamed n3b for n3 baseline

[ashen spindle]

n3 original was canned and never made it to production

[rough osprey]

i wonder if they make a new phone

[astral haven]

-_-

hmm i wonder why they are making all of those usb c ports that are showing up on twixter

[hasty thunder]

lel, didn't know Razers security was so bad

i had 66 bucks on my account and wanted to buy a Steam gift card for 50€. They've classified my Acc as KYC lvl 2

and disabled the checkout button for me

turns out you can enable it again by rewriting their website in Firefox using Dev tools

[dire harbor]

"rewriting their website" lol

[hasty thunder]

well, not exactly rewriting, but you get the idea

[dire harbor]

yeah, you were editing your own version of the html, locally 🙂

[hasty thunder]

i've changed the flags from disabled to enabled and it works

[dire harbor]

I'm guessing they didn't do server-side checking and the request went through

[hasty thunder]

[dire harbor]

hehe, nice, love stuff like that

regularly try with shops, got some good discounts like that, and some stuff delivered where they dont deliver at all

[ashen spindle]

basically how I managed to buy some rtx 30 founders editions lol

just skipped the waitlist xD

[hasty thunder]

They'll probably look at my Acc, see that i'm actually not supposed to purchase anything, because i'm at KYC lvl 2 and be like: How dafuq?

it would be funny tho if i get my gift card

[pale sigil]

Why didn't you share this knowledge with us

[ashen spindle]

German store only

And they fixed it fast

[rough osprey]

https://twitter.com/AndyManganelli/status/1696563643477791188?t=bBDIYcOJxNKi-WFofyl1dw&s=19

Andrew Manganelli (@AndyManganelli)

USB-C confirmed.

Likes

468

Twitter · Aug 29, 2023, 4:41 PM

[cursive summit]

For a second I thought the host was Steve Jobs

Was like "Damn they really can't let him rest, had to resurrect the guy with AI or something"

[rough osprey]

bro made a Comeback

[hasty thunder]

"Steve Jobs Theater in Apple Park" sounds like a place everyone should avoid

[cursive summit]

Lad's had enough of being dead

[hasty thunder]

Jobs is Jesus 2.0

confirmed

[rough osprey]

he gonna announce lightning 2

[cursive summit]

Not even

FireWire 2.0

[rough osprey]

which uses usbc connector but isnt compatible to any non apple cables and devices

[hasty thunder]

they'll confirm USB-C on their next iPhone, but with a big issue. Only the pro models will have the maximum transfer speed

[cursive summit]

Bro just came back from the dead

Took a look at the new iphones

And said "we need VGA back"

[hasty thunder]

anything else is limited to USB 2.0 speeds

[rough osprey]

doesn't matter tbh

[hasty thunder]

It does, because the EU will strike them hard

[rough osprey]

the amount of people using the connector for moving files is soooo small

[dire harbor]

they will surely try to complicate the usb-c thingy in some compatibility way

[hasty thunder]

they've tried and the EU threatened to ban their products in Europe entirely

[steep creek]

I wonder how they’ll handle non eu countries in Europe, I suppose it’ll be the same as eu

[hasty thunder]

and the tansfer speed limit to USB 2.0 will definitely have a sour taste for the EU

[rough osprey]

hope the usbc airpods come soon then

[steep creek]

Yah i believe it’s rumored to launch this fall

[rough osprey]

and all the other things that are still lightning

[hasty thunder]

in fact sour enough that the EU prepares a penalty of 10 billion euros if the rumors are true

[rough osprey]

not enough

tim paying that out of his wallet

[hasty thunder]

well, 10 billion will hurt them definitely, but yeah, i would've outright banned their products for that move

because a penalty in form of money is like an empty threat

[rough osprey]

let's just hope everythings fine

i wanna buy one so

[weak schooner]

10b doesnt hurt apple at all. It’s literally 10 quarters worth of interest

effectively not affecting their cash on hand

[halcyon moss]

10billion is a nice amount for extra things in Europe

[ashen spindle]

it would hurt them becuase they couldn't explain shareholders how they made more than 10b by keeping what they have and if shareholders arent happy your price drops

[halcyon moss]

Good

Probably less. Way less for a lot ofnthings

[rough osprey]

would yall replace the battery after like 3 years (Degradation probably noticable then) instead of just buying a new phone?

interesting

i would prefer to have the newer tech and Software and all

screen probably also a bit bad by then

when we getting very good battery life tho

like 2 full days

[gusty kiln]

Did you see the fairphone 5 link I posted?

The only issue is the price

600 for the 4

Dunno what the 5 will be

But the longevity seems worth the price

Should last 2x a regular phone

Think of it as 2 $300 phone

Kek

[halcyon moss]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_effect

EU regulations have the same effect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect

[cursive summit]

https://youtu.be/QB9pxSlXdgo

Lad literally opened up a place with thousands of earphones to try out

Why must that place be in another part of the world

[rough osprey]

visit him and give him a good mic pls

[cursive summit]

He specializes in the outs

But not great with the ins

[rough osprey]

ye

[astral haven]

at home he has a pretty incredible microphone

[gusty kiln]

I hope he updates the headphone list at some point

[rough osprey]

https://www.mediamarkt.es/es/product/_raton-gaming-logitech-g-pro-x-superlight-2-lightspeed-inalambrico-usb-320000-ppp-negro-1558281.html

anyone needing a mouse?

[gusty kiln]

It's one of the few I'm considering

[rough osprey]

sadly big and heavy

but gotta wait for reviews on the new tech

[gusty kiln]

UltraightX tiger would be ideal

But hard to get

Also considering the razer pro options too obviously

[rough osprey]

lets wait for revies haha

finalmouse is uhhhhhh

[gusty kiln]

Kek I know

1st batch is always sketch

[hasty thunder]

well, time for some tech gore

clean your fucking PCs, guys

[rough osprey]

no

i even remove sidepanels

Muahahhha

[gusty kiln]

I want an open test bench style pc for my next build

[rough osprey]

do it for the temps

[gusty kiln]

So bring on the dust

[hasty thunder]

do yourself a favor if you decide to do that. Buy a PCIe mount from some old SOC boards

because real open air test benches cost quite a lot

[crisp granite]

Do people not?

I clean my pc every month

Compressed air and Lysol wipes

[true quest]

once per year

if i remember

[gusty kiln]

http://shopeu.dimastech.com/en/dimastech-bench-test-table-mini-v10-graphite-black

Doesn't seem too expensive

[vagrant pagoda]

1 dimm per channel

thats normal

its normall dpc

also

doent the tachyon only have 1 slot per channel

[astral haven]

yup

tachyon is successor to the SOC series

[vagrant pagoda]

the socs had 4 dimm

[astral haven]

not the good ones 😛

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah the z97 soc was the best

[astral haven]

*soc ln2

i have the regular soc which is big sad

[vagrant pagoda]

i have the soc force

non ln2

[astral haven]

oh yea force not the disappointment with 4 phases

[vagrant pagoda]

yep

that board never blew a phase

unlike my 990fx

even with 24/7 sub abmient

[astral haven]

yea well there is a difference in amount of current running through them

200w with FiVR is very different from 200w without

[vagrant pagoda]

i had the 990 ud7

and i went though like 5 or 6 of them

the did always work minus one phase

and they never killed the cpu

[astral haven]

🤤 i want a camera bump like this

[vagrant pagoda]

thonk

i always wanted on the sony clip ons

[astral haven]

like the olympus air but worse and sony logo?

[vagrant pagoda]

eh

its better than the air because air was giant

[astral haven]

what

[vagrant pagoda]

you couldnt pocket the air with any lense on it

[astral haven]

what????

[vagrant pagoda]

the air has no lense

you gotta stick one on it

[astral haven]

yes?

it uses mft lenses

they are microscopic

[vagrant pagoda]

the sony is smaller with a lense

[astral haven]

yea thats the low tier one that has a 1 inch sensor

[vagrant pagoda]

air is way bigger

not really pocketable

[astral haven]

yea but it can take better than smartphone images

and its not a crazy amount bigger

[vagrant pagoda]

and the 2.3 sony is about the szie of the air with no lense

[astral haven]

the qx1 could at least get you passable images, but sony doesnt make lenses anywhere near as small as MFT

at least not with reasonable image quality

but it also was not small

speaking of sony tho, they did make a fantastic camera recently
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1784157-REG/sony_a7cr_mirrorless_camera_black.html

61 megapixel with pixel shift, in the a7c body

its tiiiny

and it has IBIS (obviously to do pixel shift but it bears repeating)

high key interested especially for clear image zoom keeping autofocus

i have the 50-100 F1.8 APS-H lens and its a beauty

dunno how much I can get for my a7iv tho
also micro hdmi? 🤢

I wish they would do video out over USB C

there already exist adapters to take out video and insert power over Usb C

like this is incredible

and now you can get 33 or 61 megapixels in that size, both with the new AI tracking autofocus

like even if you digital zoom to the same size sensor as the apsc, its still higher res than anything besides the new fuji XH2

[cursive summit]

https://www.neowin.net/news/amd-gains-market-share-as-gpu-shipments-increase-in-q2-2023/

Incredible

Only for it to fall next week

[astral haven]

very impressive realtime gpu bottleneck checker

[fickle ore]

very good program indeed

[ashen spindle]

wonder if they can expand the cpu checker for stuff like IO etc. so you could see in stuff like MMOs what is limiting you

once they get the overhead down a bit more

[fickle ore]

it has a big issue/bug atm tho, it forces game to composed flip

been waiting for them to fix

[true quest]

the fix is buy real icecream from the store

[astral haven]

what about if you want soft serve?

[true quest]

i get gelato

[astral haven]

but what if you wanted soft serve?

[true quest]

i get gelato

[astral haven]

and you wanted to spend half? a quarter the amount?

[true quest]

then i can't afford it

and i move on with my day

[astral haven]

🤨

well some of us like soft serve

[true quest]

a true tragedy

[astral haven]

speak for yourself

even i dont live in fancy enough town to have there be a "gelato" place nearby

[true quest]

my local store sells the cheap stuff, which i find more compelling that the glorified whipped cream seen here

[astral haven]

well the idea is its soft, halfway between whipped cream and real ice cream

thats why its called soft serve

[true quest]

you get what you pay

[astral haven]

yes thats the idea

[true quest]

yeah

[gusty kiln]

I got amish ice cream recently

Yeah it's dense

The French vanilla is very yellow

Almost cartoon like

Also cookies and creme with actually sweet cream ice cream

[ashen spindle]

anyone know of a site that is like a reminder bot/email? I want to send myself reminders about my hardware predictions without seeing scheduled tasks in my own mail box lol

[gusty kiln]

Instead of vanilla

Why not just a reminder on your phone

[ashen spindle]

hm works too I guess, but might break or something

also I might miss it since I never really look at phone notifications lol

[gusty kiln]

Kek

Does Google do timed emails?

Yeah

[astral haven]

yes, scheduled send

[ashen spindle]

yeah thats what I'm doing but it irritates me to see the 1 as if I have a missing notification or unread mail xD

[gusty kiln]

Gmail let's you schedule an email to any date

[cursive summit]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/29/23850595/mcdonalds-broken-ice-cream-machines-ifixit

Idk about that one chief

[pale sigil]

people have already been doing it

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/russian-chipmaker-baikal-goes-bankrupt-assets-valued-at-only-dollar5-million

Anyone heard of them before?

No? Alright

I know of the lake

Maybe a brand of drinks of sorts

Electronics? Hm

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38035

I didn't know Monoprice makes monitors

Seems like an alright deal for the price

Problem is

I haven't heard of 120Hz VA panels

165Hz are quite cheap VA panels, 120Hz could be a higher quality one

[ashen spindle]

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-shows-8-core-528-thread-processor-with-silicon-photonics/ research, neat

[crisp granite]

They aren’t actually broken

It’s that they’re so time consuming and annoying to clean

Gotta keep the techs employed

Is it entirely possible that a “bestie” who worked at two different micky deez over their life, in both the USA and Canada…

Lied to me?

[astral haven]

to be accurate, they werent lying, they probably thought that was true, they were just mislead, tricked or bamboozled by taylor and management...

[crisp granite]

They actually cleaned the machines, so I’m inclined to believe it was laziness more than mechanical failure

[astral haven]

yes, the problem is even if you do clean the machine, it doesnt always work

[crisp granite]

…hear me out

It’s a lot easier to tell someone the machine is broken than “I’m too lazy to clean it again”

[astral haven]

the company that made the hack devices had stats

there are a few specific error messages that the machines just trigger for no apparent reason even if every protocol has been followed (which the hack device can actually track unlike the machines themselves)

wait so you are going through cloudflare one, and some traffic works, but not discord???

had to turn on the test SSID i set up with captive portal since the admin location doesnt have an open captive portal ssid

Can confirm its not the captive portal itself that is blocking you

also wait a sec
cloudflare one?

zero trust is what you mean right?

[astral haven]

also fyi its just like a vpn where a firewall can guess from the traffic that theres something obfuscating, and if its on the block list, you wont get through

[mild dome]

Definitely not laziness, around where I live sites owned by Mcdonalds itself have near 100% up time on their ice-cream machine, franchisees way out west on the other hand almost always get the short end of the stick.

Were it down to laziness you would expect ice-cream machine issues to be roughly the same across the board, but it isn't

[astral haven]

heres the stats for a few big cities

vs overall

NY houston san antonio phoenix and dallas are above average % broken

heres a map along with the average and below average metro areas they list

it doesnt really look like an east vs west pattern, its just random it seems broken vs working

[mild dome]

Yeah I am in Oz, so things might be different in Sydney compared to the US

[astral haven]

tru tru

[mild dome]

this might have already been mentioned, but many franchisees had at one point figured out how to fix the machines themselves, as the issues they were having were more software related. However Maccas locked down the machine's software preventing self repair

You get the feeling that the executive board is likely getting kickbacks from the ice-cream company by forcing their franchisees to seek them for any kind of support

[vagrant pagoda]

a company made a device to make it dead nuts simple to work

and they got sued

[mild dome]

This shit is why we should've had right to repair a long time ago. It's insane that people can't fix their own machines

[astral haven]

ah icic

the app is called 1.1.1.1 in my phone lel

👀

from datavalet

im also not finding anything from cloudflare telling me to switch to the cloudflare one app
is it possible its an ios thing?

https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/connections/connect-devices/warp/download-warp/cloudflare-one-agent-migration/
found it
thank you for letting me know
cloudflare didnt -_-

ill have to try again next time im in the office to see if this app has issues with captive portal

keep in mind doh only helps for https sites, and doesnt obfuscate the destination IP

[astral haven]

https://youtu.be/9EY_9KtxyPg?t=1283
@ashen spindle
wow apparently zenbleed is a first of its kind vuln
its actually not a sidechannel, its an instruction that was missucoded fixed with timestamp

[vagrant pagoda]

lmao

new LTT video on e-ink. Talk about clear type making text burry, then dont even disable it

[astral haven]

they didnt?

[mild dome]

"Hey bros we won't be rushing the vid!"

https://tenor.com/view/linus-gif-20773036

[acoustic acorn]

Bro my wooting 1 key just like dosent work I need some help

[vagrant pagoda]

they talk about it causing the text to be burry in word

and then just keep going witrh it on

[hasty thunder]

are you sure the key's properly settled in the plate itself?

[astral haven]

they showed going through the cleartype wizard?

[vagrant pagoda]

and did nothing with it

[acoustic acorn]

It just arrived I just took it out the packaging

[hasty thunder]

well, check if the key's properly set in the plate

if it still doesn't work check if it's recognized at https://wootility.io

[acoustic acorn]

its stil not working

everything else is fine

i did that

[orchid gulch]

i need help it says the i have driver errors it doesnt let me use the keyboard

like in task manager?

[halcyon willow]

average asus experience

[old marlin]

I love microsoft

cert ran out

can't refresh now cause it ran out

just set date back to before when it ran out

refresh

congrats, new cert

[frozen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

[old marlin]

that is the recommended way online

since it is so much less of a hassle than making a new cert

[dire harbor]

web cert, or some M$ one?

[old marlin]

both

[dire harbor]

haha

[old marlin]

technically at least

[dire harbor]

I mostly use certbot for server stuff so notsure about M$ stuff

[old marlin]

is a cert for domain communication

that just felt like not refreshing before

which technically also is a web cert

[dire harbor]

yeah I guess same type just used differently

[wheat plume]

The MIT's Visual Microphone scares TF out of me

They found a way to pick up sound vibrations from ANYTHING they point a camera at and use software to reconstruct the audio

[old marlin]

well not quite anything

[wheat plume]

well, any object

[old marlin]

needs to be something that can actually react to the sound

[wheat plume]

yeh

still scary...

someone wants to hear you? but they are too far away....
just get their camera and look at an object near you and run this software

[old marlin]

also not quite as simple

they need special camera setups for it

that need to be at least somewhat close

[severe phoenix]

https://retropaq.com/toshiba-t6400-the-last-best-gas-plasma-portable/

[proper osprey]

Hi everyone, I'm very new to keyboards and dont know much. I have the wooting keyboard and was wondering if I will be able to change the case to this one I found on alixpress: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003329788603.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.17.7e016df0sXCNZg&algo_pvid=66aa3102-9a67-4b49-a7b6-1c2c524ffa53&algo_exp_id=66aa3102-9a67-4b49-a7b6-1c2c524ffa53-8&pdp_npi=4%40dis!DKK!475.00!470.25!!!500.00!!%40210318c916933295805181586e54bc!12000025242186958!sea!DK!718900967!&curPageLogUid=56aMPaaH4wRD#nav-specification

I don't know if the case is compatible with the wooting keyboard

I just really want a kinda clear/transparent case and wrist rest (still haven't found a wrist rest)

[marsh glade]

Let me fix that link for you
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003329788603.html

[proper osprey]

lol thx

.<

when i look at the case i found, it looks like it might have too many screws, or am i wrong?

[marsh glade]

Perhaps try asking in #🔧│keyboard_modding since your question may get missed here during regular convervation about tech unrelated to Wooting

[wheat plume]

....
Can we not do this please??????

A lot of women, LGBTQ+ and others anyone doesn't like will die :/

[old marlin]

wdym "what if"

clearview is a thing already

and has been used as a party trick

[wheat plume]

......how easy is it to use???

[old marlin]

dead simple apparently

[wheat plume]

.....

Fuck sake

[old marlin]

aka, make a photo of a face

[wheat plume]

How many deaths has this caused I wonder

Yeh :/

[old marlin]

then chuck it in a search engine

[old marlin]

access to it is VERY limited

at the moment

[wheat plume]

at the moment
....plz always

Not at the moment

Fuck off

The general public don't need this shit

[analog sinew]

but the gubernment sure does

[old marlin]

Well it is gated via price

[wheat plume]

What
100 bucks or do?

[old marlin]

If you don't want to be affected don't post images of your face publically

[old marlin]

No

[wheat plume]

Or leave the house.....

[old marlin]

Don't think they name a price but you prob can't even ask without millions

[old marlin]

Would be hard with that

[wheat plume]

But that's only for now

You said it's limited ATM
Which implied it'll be publicly available soon

[old marlin]

They need some kind of identifier, aka a username etc

[marsh glade]

My government issue ID is floating around on the darkweb on account of being hacked from databases of legitimate businesses, so this is a fallacy

[old marlin]

Well even later it would ve expensive

[old marlin]

True

But that is just another can of worms with how id verification is handled

[gusty kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwcJPSK06E

New Shidenkai

[old marlin]

now people can coat their entire setup in glass beads again

[ashen spindle]

Oh wow interesting

[gusty kiln]

"Support for the Next Decade"

damn

the frame is very iPhone/Nothing-like

[old marlin]

everyything is iphone like nowadays

[gusty kiln]

https://pics.computerbase.de/1/0/8/9/3/5-56aa8a7afc798224/15-640.09fd3ab4.jpg

like this picture looks almost exactly like an iphone

[astral haven]

eh?

it looks like a smartphone

[gusty kiln]

and an iphone is a smart phone, thank you for coming to my TED talk

[rough osprey]

how smart is it

[gusty kiln]

very smort

[rough osprey]

if that is so

[astral haven]

yea but its a question of causality
the iphone and fairphone both look like smartphones, if the only smartphone you see on a regular basis is an iphone, thats what youll think
the first phone I thought of when I saw that was a samsung...

[rough osprey]

i will buy one

maybe tomorrow

[thick elk]

still looks like a chunkey boy

[gusty kiln]

well samsung definitely started looking more iphone like with the S23 series

https://www.zdnet.com/a/img/resize/a7b0d9596c64dbcda8625d25b2225350c1d6325d/2023/02/24/d565219c-52d8-4f11-9a1d-30ffad06563d/s23-plus-5.jpg?auto=webp&width=1280

leme check the S22

[astral haven]

except I was more thinking S8

[gusty kiln]

at the bottom yeah I see it

but the sides are tapered

[gusty kiln]

new iPhone?

[rough osprey]

the 14

pro max

[gusty kiln]

oh nice

[rough osprey]

perfect time to buy now

[gusty kiln]

now you can flex your rizz

[cursive summit]

"best smartphone on earth" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UJ5k3yMvA

I highly doubt it

[rough osprey]

im only rizzing up Mercys in overwatch

they seem to release usbc airpods too

at the next event

[gusty kiln]

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/16563cx/are_your_most_expensive_headphones_also_your_most/

@final flame obviously you have the clears, but what do you actually use the most atm?

[cursive summit]

Fairphone pricing is absolutely horrible for the features

Small battery, only IP55, screen is not as good resolution as competition, SoC is bad

[gusty kiln]

wtf are you talking about, being able to user replace every aspect of the phone is a feature no other phone has

[cursive summit]

You are really only buying if for some reason you want the minimal repairability and god forbid, 8 years of support

Although I appreciate them making battery replacements possible again

Specs are very meh otherwise

[astral haven]

not if you actually just keep using your phone?

[cursive summit]

Sony still king

[astral haven]

thats a fixable issue

[cursive summit]

Batteries are in theory replaceable on all phones that isn't Apple lol

[gusty kiln]

forgetting the biggest obstacle, laziness

[cursive summit]

It's just a bit difficult to do so

[astral haven]

thats also definetly not true

first of all apple is actually on average one of the easier battery replacements

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

apple was one of the first with good pull tabs

[astral haven]

you just lose capabilities because get screwed

[astral haven]

lol no they have never had good pull tabs

anything that has an over 1/4 chance of breaking if you dont heat it up is not a "good" pull tab imo

[gusty kiln]

kek

[thick elk]

Honestly pull tabs are not that important if you are replacing the battery, just makes it faster.

Pretty much

[astral haven]

spoken like someone who didnt have to do more than a few battery replacements

[thick elk]

at that point the pull tabs are just marginal

[astral haven]

a 10% chance of requiring you to use brute force on a lithium ion battery is not a "safe process"

[thick elk]

I have done one battery replacement on a glued down battery without pulltabs, actually thinking about it 2 or 3, all worked fine, just a bit of ipa and it works fine.

[final flame]

6xx

[gusty kiln]

kek, me unironically is a tie between my FF5 and wired apple earpods because of work

always half my days in teams meetings

[thick elk]

I have also punctured the batteries on purpose after removal it's not that catastrophic. just not something to do indoors

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/momomo_us/status/1696151357257109809

188号 (@momomo_us)

Front View of GC-HPWR

Twitter · Aug 28, 2023, 1:22 PM

https://twitter.com/momomo_us/status/1696151950201680170

188号 (@momomo_us)

HPCE connector

Twitter · Aug 28, 2023, 1:25 PM

[astral haven]

in my last job i did about 2 iphone battery replacements each week, our insurance didnt allow us to use chemicals to attack the glue since it would cause various problems down the line

[cursive summit]

So, is this supposed to be some sort of new PCIe standard?

[ashen spindle]

Hey the latest LTT video uses a wooting again

[thick elk]

As for headphones, I used a 6xx for years but they were never comfortable, I tried losening the band but then there was no seal, and thicker cups really didn't do the sound any favors and still were not comfortable.
Now I a hifiman he400se and it feels a lot better.

[gusty kiln]

I hope all the mobo manufacturers will finally agree on power connector placements on the backside of mobos

[astral haven]

same here except the 400se was to hot for me so i moved on to iems

[gusty kiln]

then we'll have a cable-less front side

[cursive summit]

So, they are trying to remove the need for a direct PSU connection to GPU by introducing power draw up to 600W directly from a motherboard

[thick elk]

iem's I use on the go but really wouldn't want to use all day.

[cursive summit]

Sounds like even more expensive motherboards are coming

[astral haven]

ime its worth to spend a hundred or so trying out all sorts of tips to find one that you can wear perpetually

[gusty kiln]

the price you pay for a clean looking PC

[astral haven]

except not really since its still the same amount of copper just it has to be carefully routed

[thick elk]

That's not the issue, for me foam tips works best, just inserting / removing them and the actual iem in my ear not the tips are the issue.

[cursive summit]

Not sure who works on this HPCE thing

[gusty kiln]

what's the eartip meta nowadays?

[cursive summit]

Is this a new standard or some random AIBs engineering department pumping out things

[thick elk]

I also kind of struggle with small tips being a bit too large for my left ear.

[gusty kiln]

probably halo products first

[astral haven]

thats a foam issue
there are hybrid tips (foam internals rubber external)

[astral haven]

extremely personalized

[thick elk]

Tried those, they just don't fit that nicely with small tips being a bit too large of those

[gusty kiln]

meant like brand-wise

[thick elk]

Even then inserting and removing them is not as comfortable as just putting down a headphone

[astral haven]

Radians

[gusty kiln]

[astral haven]

make your own customs then
incredibly comfortable and frictionless

[final flame]

I personally use moondrops spring tips
I also like the spinfit tips
these are about as good as you can get without a actual custom

[astral haven]

the spring tips did not work at all for me

[thick elk]

I would struggle to do so but foam tips are fine for my use case, I just wouldn't want to use them all day for multiple days.
A few hours is fine, a long car trip is fine but headphones just are better for general use for me.

[final flame]

I don't like foams, pain to put in and can't be cleaned, they also change the sound signature

[astral haven]

all 3 of those are issues with solutions...

[final flame]

then what are the solutions?

[astral haven]

https://www.amazon.com/SYMBIO-Silicone-Provides-Isolation-Performance/dp/B08R94Y7SB?th=1

silicone external, foam internals

[gusty kiln]

might as well buy some chus

I use earpods cuz they were free

[astral haven]

think of earpods as quite capable of beating phone quality (like landline phone)

[cursive summit]

Wtf is an earpod?

Those wired Apple bulb pods?

They are horrible

[gusty kiln]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31Qktt32k1L.jpg

[cursive summit]

Never stick those in your ears

[gusty kiln]

I find them supremely comfortable in my ears

[astral haven]

the one advantage tho is they dont seal at all

[gusty kiln]

they literally disappear for me

seal don't matter if it's only for teams call in a quiet office

[cursive summit]

There are some great IEMs that are far more capable than apple anything, like Chu 2's

[astral haven]

yea but if its for a teams call in a quiet office you could just use portapros which are an order of magnitude better quality

and not an order of magnitude more expensive

[gusty kiln]

remember "free"

[astral haven]

they arent free any more

and I got my portapros for free

[gusty kiln]

but yeah I would love to get some KPH40is

[gusty kiln]

I got like 4 pairs for when my whole family got iphone 5s, they never used them

[astral haven]

my friends recommend bone conduction headphones from jbl and the like

[gusty kiln]

are the JIU even worth considering?

[cursive summit]

Not really

[final flame]

the jiu are only good if you don't have a chu

[gusty kiln]

kek

[cursive summit]

Chu 2's now

[final flame]

yea

jiu afaik basically is a nicer tuned chu, because of the dsp
not worth it if you already have a chu or are planning to use it on a pc without a usb cable

[gusty kiln]

kph40 or kph30i clear version would be a nice upgrade for office use

[astral haven]

i spent the time to find good tips that fit me well for my iems so its not a problem for me to wear them for 20 hours straight, but my friends who didnt want to spend the time went this way and were very happy @dawn epoch

[final flame]

the 30i with a pad mod

[shadow minnow]

Fun

[final flame]

and a eq added onto it are the best option for cheap

[gusty kiln]

lol no EQ on my work laptop

they restrict a lot of software

[gusty kiln]

those fake grado pads?

[thick elk]

the more expensive option for eq is to use something like a qudelix-5k and add the eq profile on there.

[cursive summit]

Factorio be looking different

[steep creek]

been a while since i had them, never really had iems or expensive earbuds, but i found them really comfy and sounded just fine for my usage

though now i do like the silicone airpod tips a lot more

[astral haven]

but also $100+ rather than affordable

[shadow minnow]

Not factorio, virtual circuit board haha, but it’s comp stuff, serializer and a deserializer

[cursive summit]

Ah, so satisfactory

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