🔌│tech

[cursive summit]

Bexin's too young to drink

[shadow minnow]

Autocorrect

[cursive summit]

I dunno if microcontrollers and high performance systems are anywhere near the same R&D expenditure

Kinda doubtful

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s sony silicone nontheless

[cursive summit]

Technically still ARM based

[ashen spindle]

when the comparison is to pull an apple it clearly means make your own console chips or similar, not some low tier sensors

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s not exactly low tier

Not high tier either

But you don’t see 6 core microcontrollers often

That can handle pretty high perf camera chips

Which suggests sony makes their own silicone for their cameras which would make sense

[cursive summit]

Wouldn't Sony have to invest into their own little RISC-V architecture cause the ones by ARM aren't really good enough for PS5 levels of performance

[ashen spindle]

oh so you want them to be really bankrupt and go riscv blank slate?

[cursive summit]

I don't think ARM's own cores are good enough to match PS5 now, do they

[ashen spindle]

if you say make like apple that means they would make their own arm cores

[cursive summit]

Which is what they'd have to do to make a console level chip

[shadow minnow]

Oh you mean PlayStation, I was thinking of like cameras where I think they make their own silicone lol

[ashen spindle]

but how did that go to using riscv

[shadow minnow]

Ngl I totally forgot sony makes PlayStation

[cursive summit]

Aren't ARM cores using RISC-V arch

Or is that CISC or whatever its called

[ashen spindle]

when the comparson was nintendo, what did you think comes from nintendo that has cameras lol

[shadow minnow]

It’s risc but not risc v I think

[ashen spindle]

bruh youare whos drunk I guess

[cursive summit]

Right back at ye

[ashen spindle]

nah iI just have 2.5 sec tot ype between my cooldowns while tanking

[cursive summit]

Sorry for not knowing what arch ARM Cortexes run on, my bad

[shadow minnow]

What arm cortexes run on?

Reee

[ashen spindle]

bruh its literally in the name

[shadow minnow]

They run on the road

arm - A road microcontroller

[cursive summit]

ARM is the arch?

Always thought that ARM the company's chips were running on RISC thing

[shadow minnow]

Well arm is a risc architecture

Risc just means Reduced instruction set computer

But in terms of core architecture it’s their own stuff

Arm is kinda like x86

And has many different core architectures

So m0 is like water lake

(Not as in performance but naming)

Though you can have different cores in one package

[astral haven]

A processor being RISC is like saying lights are electric
Sure there are non electric lights but uhhhhhh

[barren folio]

Make the flame bigger

[tribal dirge]

Propane candle!!?? Now that’s a first for me.

Though usually for things like that I would assume that they are used for a stove, lmao.

I have one too, but it runs off pressurized liquid kerosene.

[tribal dirge]

MSR Dragonfly

Lol,

It is

[tribal dirge]

Pretty powerful little thing

Same

[devout raptor]

IF I want to reset my windows, do a clean reinstall, can I choose which drive I download it on? I have 3 ssd's and my windows is currently on the second fastest one but id like to install it on my m.2

[barren folio]

Yeah you can

[reef patrol]

If you want a proper clean install you gotta physically unplug all drives except for the main drive, download the Windows installer to a +8GB USB stick and format the intended drive.

Windows LOVES putting boot files on the wrong drive 😄

[devout raptor]

hmm. Do I need to reactivate the windows tho?

[reef patrol]

Your activation is tied to the hardware when you used the code the first time, so that shouldn't be more than something automatic on first post-install bootup.

[devout raptor]

my drives are easily accessable

so I could do that

[devout raptor]

I activated on a different drive, does that affect anyhting

okay good

Its probably tied to your motherboard then?

[reef patrol]

Microsoft takes a sort of fingerprint of the motherboard, CPU and GPU and uses that to recognize you later.

[devout raptor]

Okay nice.

Any way easy and convenient way to save some files that you dont want to get lost?

[reef patrol]

Copy them

[devout raptor]

To a drive?

what would happen if I wipe my windows but unplug two drives that arent the ones with the windows installed on them

would be files be saved

or would it cause some problems

[wheat plume]

especially in the installer .-. it only tells you the name of the drive, if its got a label
and drive labels are MANUAL so by default they dont have one

if you got more than one drive but they are both the same size.... got to figure out what one is what based on partition count

Yeah .-.

it installed the fucking boot system on my LINUX DRIVE

overwrtote the damn BIOS boot order

removed Linux from even showing up in the BIOS

[reef patrol]

Like I said - Only one drive plugged in during OS install if Windows is involved 😄

[wheat plume]

Thats kinda hard to do when two of my drives are M.2 on the motherboard

id have to remove the GPU

[reef patrol]

Yes and?

[wheat plume]

and I cant, cause my CPU doesnt have an iGPU

[reef patrol]

You can put the GPU back while installing you know.

[wheat plume]

yeah

but I gotta remove the gpu more than once

yep .-.

[reef patrol]

Some BIOS'es lets you disable the slots.

[wheat plume]

ooo.... good point actually

[reef patrol]

But I don't want to hear whining about having to unscrew a GPU twice during an OS install.

-i- have to cut, drain and re-do my custom watercooling 😄

[wheat plume]

oh boi...

My wifi is so slow the last two weeks ;-;

ni.ce xd

[wheat plume]

I assume there is a fair use policy in place that reduces your speed a fuck ton if you go over a certain amount?

wait...30 dollars OFF their bill, damn!

wtf happened my File Explorer????????

HELP

how do I get rid of this?

THE TABS ARE GONE

no

I rebooted...and now this is here and the tabs are back

nah, ive undone all that... I no longer dual boot on my computer so im allowing updates to run again

[old marlin]

what is "fast"

[wheat plume]

🤔

ikr

I want the fucking virtual desktop animation back when you switch between thenm with the keyboard shortcut .-.

RN it just instantly happens and its very motion sickness inducing for me

I liked the slide it did on 10

SCOOBE DOO :')

steam what?

Gaming is all Windows is good for these days LOL

🤔
hmm, they didnt seem to have tested light theme LOL

Nah im good :')

oo

not bad

[reef patrol]

Not bad at all. Still waiting for 4TB to come down.

[ashen spindle]

qlc though

[wheat plume]

fucking too many redists

what happens if I remove them?

[ashen spindle]

do you need the disk space so urgently? whats the issue with keeping them

[reef patrol]

Nothing.

[wheat plume]

nothing... just curious why I have so many, I assume they get pulled down with games?

[reef patrol]

And I have an automatic search and delete for them in my games folders that runs once a month, cause those fuckers add up. Almost every game includes at least one or more that isn't purged afterwards

[ashen spindle]

or any other software that uses them aside from games yes

[wheat plume]

oh, so it is games \

[marsh glade]

Just delete everything in the screenshot, no problem

[wheat plume]

hhm

[ashen spindle]

all it does is making you take time to install it the next time to need it

[marsh glade]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-no-idea-space-gif-21143488

[wheat plume]

xd

[ashen spindle]

so might as well just keep it

its like 10mb per thing only anyway

[reef patrol]

Yeah that's my plan as well. I currently have a 4TB NVME for OS and games, another 1TB for old games that used to be the primary and then a metal 3TB for media.

I do have a NAS, but it's been offline for months, since I mainly use it for CD/DVD game backups and patches from olden days, or for Plex (but wife has occupied TV for that long as well, so I just watch things on the PC direct)

[hollow carbon]

That's a lot of storage media work?

[fair gull]

still need to get my hands on 6-8tb drives in 2.5inch

a lot of those

23 to be exact

[reef patrol]

👀

[fair gull]

i feel like ssds would be the only way but so expensive

maybe ill have to settle for 5tb drives

[hollow carbon]

Tape storage where it's at

[thick elk]

Nothing beats good old pen and paper.

[hollow carbon]

Thought that could be the 🖤 of spraking

Blood loss

[wheat plume]

DIscord...AMOLED theme for Desktop client plz

[pale sigil]

My NAS drives are 7 years old I think lol

I should probably look into replacing them tbh

Then again they are healthy

[hollow carbon]

For now evil laughter but yea always back up fileseven for the back up

[wheat plume]

Strange change

[tribal dirge]

Indeed

[vagrant pagoda]

everyone has always said the oppsite, but im going on 10 yuears of only haveing the latest of each redis, and never has installing an old one fixed an issue

[reef patrol]

Hmm? I'm referring to every game and app downloading them - not whether or not they actually help since you're already up to date

[vagrant pagoda]

everygame installs their version

not the latest

[reef patrol]

Again.

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah

and im saying that the different versions dont matter

[reef patrol]

Cool. Not part of the discussion I was participating in though.

[vagrant pagoda]

They posted a screenshot of windows programs and features

removing something from that is uninstalling

or did you miss that part lol

[reef patrol]

Oh no wait. I see the confusion.

I'm assuming Lana is doing a folder search - You're thinking add/remove apps.

[vagrant pagoda]

it is program and features

im not thinking

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-shades-on-gif-20056963

[vagrant pagoda]

yeah they all come with the same damn name from MS

its really annoying

which is how i knew what it was lol

[reef patrol]

So do the installers.

[pale sigil]

I want it so much

[tame hedge]

burnin + bad text 👍

[ashen spindle]

text is fine

[tame hedge]

"fine" maybe but nowhere near as decent as RGB

[ashen spindle]

fine as in I dont see any issue whne I daily it for code

and burn in idk, only had it for a year but if its better than other variants then thats probably not too big of an issue either

and if you do faceplant into the screen and see the subpixel rendering issue just use mactype to get better font rendering

[wheat plume]

.....ok this is fucking cool
https://youtu.be/BE-L7xu8pO4

[final flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDAXSbwhR0

now I don't want it anymore

[reef patrol]

Context and multiple sources matter. Taran was basically blind to begin with.

[final flame]

well I'm also really blind

with astigmatism

[ashen spindle]

there are also half a dozen different variants

so what he did might not even be an option for you

https://boweneye.co.nz/bowen-eye-news/types-laser-eye-surgery-how-choose oh boy even more options that I remembered

[tribal dirge]

tencent is enormous. https://youtu.be/51fWzJ-A5w4

[cursive summit]

Lol @ "secret"

How's Tencent secret, it's one of the biggest companies in the world

Nothing to really be surprised about when you have essentially a country masquerading as a corporate entity

Whole economy of China can buy a lot of things in the western world, hence their ever growing influence, positive or negative

[ashen spindle]

yeah its in no way secret or even attempted to be in secret

they have state funding and ties like every chinese company

but in the end they just invest well and make good decisions

[cursive summit]

That's the one thing you really can't shittalk the chinese about

Their investments are spot on

EU just outright banned them from investing in certain companies iirc

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah it should probbaly be limited, on the other hand maybe also have some incentives to have other companies in the west invest in what they do, since it seems to work well for them

imagine if some other us company had the foresight to buy riot games

[cursive summit]

Tencent assessed their investment in Kadokawa pretty recently as a "strategic partnership to bring media from Japan to China"

Whether that's just another attempt from them to sway the general Japanese populace though by telling Kadokawa what to do, is left to be seen

[ashen spindle]

for the most part they just had the foresight to invest in stuff that got a bit shunned by (mostly) conservatives in the west and now we have this issue

think the solar panels we are getting have some ties to tencent holdings because years ago they had to close every local factory because why would you want to support that industry locally 🤡

[tribal dirge]

well, its also the fact that if companies that do buisness outside of china have to partner with a chinese company to do buisness in china.

[cursive summit]

China will prolly just keep being a major player in world's economy

The prices that factories ask in China compared to western ones are like, orders of magnitude smaller I bet

[tribal dirge]

they're the largest producer of raw materials, ofc they will be an economic superpower.

[cursive summit]

All due to lack of human rights, bad pay and work hours

Why produce in western world when the chinese will do it so much cheaper

I heard India is trying to take their crown though

[ashen spindle]

that is mostly true for assembly of something like a keyboard, but it's also an issue that industries here just get shafted by politics

remember the energy crisis talk and all? germanies last factory that made wind turbines closed last year

[tribal dirge]

bad pay and work hours probably came from the culture of us chinese people, if you are the first to leave the workplace, you are seen as "dishonorable" and that you were expected to work hard no matter the circumstances.

hard workers are highly valued.

obviously I dont like this culture, but it is what it is.

[fair gull]

have you watched his video?

[final flame]

yes

[fair gull]

he said hed still recommend it unless you 100% need your eyes for your job

[final flame]

I do design work, you'd think I need my eyes for that

[fair gull]

na

[final flame]

plus I also do color correction

[marsh glade]

Evidence suggests otherwise 😂

[fair gull]

color correction works with star bursting

also i am almost sure its not guaranteed

its just a risk

[final flame]

rather not take the chance

the inconvenience of glasses is something I've lived with since I was 5 so I'm already used to it

[fair gull]

ikr... i feel like many companies pay designers when i can make the same logo in 20minutes

[final flame]

There's a lot more to design than that, Sure you can maybe design the same logo in 20 minutes, but there was a lot more thought put into developing the logo
complexity does not = price

if complexity was everything we'd still be on skew morphism

[fair gull]

i mean

yes but also

have you seen logos devolve

into child drawings

like just look at microsoft its 4 colored squares

[tribal dirge]

simplification be like

[fair gull]

like microsoft had dope ass logos

[marsh glade]

I got a lot of respect for good and talented designers. Was more poking fun at some of the design bloopers 😛

*I've

[final flame]

accessibility is quite a big thing in design

[fair gull]

well that makes the MS example even worse

colorblind people be missing out

[final flame]

[fair gull]

but in general i hate the trend of all this oversimplifying

[marsh glade]

That's an oversimplification

[final flame]

well neumorphism is here, I think you'll be a bit more happy with that

[fair gull]

neu what

[final flame]

it's a ui design style

[fair gull]

lets go back to this

[tribal dirge]

indeed, that 1980s look never gets old, its timeless.

[fair gull]

if apple still had that logo

id buy all their shit

just for the dope logo

[marsh glade]

This makes me think of psychedelics like Starry Night lol

[fair gull]

also

old youtube logo

[tribal dirge]

lol yeah

[final flame]

tv looking

[tribal dirge]

indeed

[fair gull]

just look at a modern company i do enjoy the logo off...

[final flame]

personally I prefer the most recent, because the "Tube" doesn't have proper outer margins in the button

[fair gull]

peen rocket

[ashen spindle]

any good logo usually looks likes its something easy to just spat out

the hard part is coming up with exactly that

[final flame]

^
exactly

[fair gull]

ok so you come up with a simple icon

and then use calibri to write the name next to it

done

[ashen spindle]

yes

[tribal dirge]

lol so true

[ashen spindle]

and in most cases that will end up not working

[final flame]

Tony, Here's a challenge
Make a logo for a startup company that's founding focus is creating a music streaming service available for free and available around the world
You can make the name
You can choose the colors
You can choose anything about it as long as it follows that prompt and makes sense

this is already a lot more freedom than what actual designers have lol

[ashen spindle]

what looked like a good logo in 2005 now needs to look good to the same people who are now 20 years older and also to the teens who didnt exist back then and taste changes, zeitgeist evolves etc.

it does always sound like some snakeoil and some logos are definitely overpaid for lol but if you do it correctly you have to do market research, make studies what people like etc. and all that to come up with what version of the color red works well currently

[final flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons/167181566978555904/a_ed24ace1a20c3f018aff545ab749c8aa.webp?size=4096

The wooting logo is a pretty good example already of good design

[astral haven]

It's however not gonna last forever...

[final flame]

the W looks like a crown, crowns usually symbolize winning

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FW2prXhIis Tiny things

[tribal dirge]

box around it could represent the bezel of a keyboard?

[final flame]

yes, that could also be a point

and notice how the logo has a consistent stroke width all throughout, that's a major design principle

[ashen spindle]

I will never understand the appeal of tiny cases to look fancy but lose out on performance tbh

[pale sigil]

[final flame]

This is one of my most favorite mini pc builds I've seen

[pale sigil]

Toasty af

[tribal dirge]

damn

[pale sigil]

GPU?

[final flame]

2070

[final flame]

spec list is on this ss

[tribal dirge]

my fav mini build is the Maingear Apex Turbo

[pale sigil]

My dream build is ITX

Always ha sand still is.

[final flame]

I wouldn't use a sff build for my main pc, but as a secondary pc for home theater use mhm

[sharp badger]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-rtx-a2000/33.html For the small build RT is bad yeah for sure but still for the Form factor

[wheat plume]

biggest biggest most talked about feature in the newest Windows update: The Search Text box is rounder

oooooffff

[pale sigil]

idk why anyone has the search bo

x

[final flame]

just don't use the search box, it's ugly, adds clutter, there's already redundancy in place for it

it's essentially useless

[pale sigil]

goaL

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/jpsoy9/xbox_one_s_rtx_pc_finally_running/?ref=share&ref_source=embed&utm_content=body&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_name=8c504ba6b0144ce5893f12e9b71d1af2&utm_source=embedly&utm_term=jpsoy9

i dsont like the xbox one

haha

[wheat plume]

What happens if you disable these?

[sharp badger]

Raijntek & Taku have some similiar cases

http://www.cryorig.com/taku.php But this don't look like the Xbox case

[pale sigil]

Thats nice

kinda

bit to roun\

[sharp badger]

I like Wood details on objects

[fair gull]

smth like this

maybe even make the globe reflect geolocation

for that extra touch

also if i didnt design this id honestly believe its a company if someone told me so

[final flame]

Inconsistent
Font Type isn't good
Looks amateurish
Globe is too detailed for the treble clef
Overall 3/10

I can point out more flaws if you'd like

oh yea no antialiasing and it's not a vector

[sharp badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9fSMGkjtug This is the next video on my watch list haven't had time to catch up to a few videos and interesting stuff just pops up atm. with Youtubes algorithm

[fair gull]

huh i didnt know all consumers look at it that way

im sorry for being a not consumer

[final flame]

if you're trying to be a professional company you'll receive judgement from all people

not just designers

[fair gull]

if id try being a professional company i wouldnt have a logo

[final flame]

well then good luck with marketing

[fair gull]

what marketing

[sharp badger]

Will probably watch that too just because i find a lot of things interesting. Was recently on a Military repetion and we got to watch some Leopard tanks and go into them, really interesting

[final flame]

you're not going to make money if nobody knows who you are
the main purpose of a business is to make money

[fair gull]

doesnt require marketing

[final flame]

marketing isn't just ads

[fair gull]

i would never even want to have a company outside the local area

if id make my own company it would be 50km radius max for customers

and in todays society word of mouth can easily cover that

[ashen spindle]

then looking at youtube logos doesnt really make sense since that is a bit of a different reach vs a local thing

[fair gull]

i didnt suggest i make a logo

i said i liked the old logos better and the new ones are too simple

[pale sigil]

I was tempted to turn mine into a NAS haha

[fair gull]

glaxes said i should design one

[pale sigil]

Its a shit ton better than my actual nas

@empty wren good example of where a 3d printer would be fun... making my own case.

(as in ras pi)

[fair gull]

and after glaxes said everyone would criticise my company i just said if it was my company there wouldnt be a logo

cause well as mentioned id want a local company with a more familiar feeling

[pale sigil]

omg this

[fair gull]

and if i had said company and employees id also want to treat them like family

i work cause i like the thing i do

not cause it makes me rich

[pale sigil]

I dont get it, why do we buy items that advertise themselves

[sharp badger]

A 3D printer is also something i'd like to get into too, A CNC Machine also

[fair gull]

i just feel old company logos had way more passion in them

[pale sigil]

I love my cooler for this reason

[fair gull]

oh fashion is even worse

[pale sigil]

its erntirely optional to have a logo

[fair gull]

ill wear whatever the crap i can get thats robust and doesnt wear quick

doesnt need its name all over

heck i even started a side project with a friend making a small rpg

idc how long it takes and that i wont ever sell it

its just out of passion for the genre

at least in my opinion the people who work out of passion for their jobs do the best job

[final flame]

and you designed a simple one btw

[fair gull]

no then i would have just used a cleft

no globe

[final flame]

The globe is still flat

[steady shore]

go to general rq please

[final flame]

?

[fair gull]

welp i gave you my reasons for the complaints and it doesnt really matter what you say as my opinion will stay that logos are oversimplified imo

[final flame]

I feel like you've been desensitized from styles

[empty wren]

I was gonna do that initially but I do not wanna mess with cad on an unfinished computer

[final flame]

Here's my prescription, so yes I am blind

whenever I was reading the letters without the glasses he had to use the single letter lol

[barren folio]

I can’t read the big E

[wheat plume]

And no one bats an eye when the apple's case is 400 dollars

🤦‍♀️

[crisp granite]

the smart folio keyboard or the magic?

[wheat plume]

Magic

The one with the keyboard

[crisp granite]

oh
frankly I got the smart folio, hated it

just got a K3 from keychron

best keyboard for iPad out there

[wheat plume]

That shit goes up to 450 dollars and no one makes a tech article bashing the price of it into oblivion

[crisp granite]

but lana

lana

it has...

trackpad

[wheat plume]

The apple one?

[crisp granite]

[wheat plume]

Not worth the price still xd

[crisp granite]

honestly...if portability mattered so much that I needed a tablet case with a keyboard built in, it would be what I'd have bought

[wheat plume]

I had a tablet with a keyboard case once

That shit was wild xd
Playing Minecraft java in bed when I was meant to be asleep

[crisp granite]

...

I still do that today

[wheat plume]

:')

Lol

[crisp granite]

I was actually playing BL2 on my macbook earlier this morning

[wheat plume]

I have my steam deck to do that now

[crisp granite]

at like...0400hrs

[wheat plume]

Bl2 runs like butter on Deck 💜

[crisp granite]

runs like butter on my macbook

and dang it looks so vibrant and perfect on the lovely retina XDR display

[wheat plume]

Yes it's a pretty decently optimized game

EXCEPT FERALS LINUX PORT

[crisp granite]

who cares about linux?

genuine question

[wheat plume]

Many many people

[crisp granite]

linux is an OS for hackers, pirates and poors

[wheat plume]

Oop

Nah

[crisp granite]

tbh I so wish a lot of great games that got mac ports got updates to 64bit from 32bit

[wheat plume]

Ooo
Someone made a port of the Nothing phone weather app

..... Hmmm, is it safe though? I usually don't trust apps on Pling

[crisp granite]

spec ops: the line has a 32 bit mac port

which makes me very sad

[wheat plume]

Most games on Windows are 32 bit

Even ones from this year

[crisp granite]

and Mac doesn't support 32bit

...anymore

[wheat plume]

A lot of Linux distros also dropped 32 bit

[ashen spindle]

most games are 32 bit? what

[wheat plume]

Arch too I think

[ashen spindle]

where is that coming from

[crisp granite]

Lana's ass is my guess

[wheat plume]

I saw a link about it a year or so ago from steam

Saying most games in the steam library are 32 bit

[thick yew]

windows is stopping or already has stopped linking 32 bit windows 10 downloads

[wheat plume]

Yeah

[crisp granite]

and most of those games are fairly old

[thick yew]

luckily enough 64bit systems are compatible with 32bit apps

[wheat plume]

But it can still run 32bit software
MacOS can't

[thick yew]

common apple L

[crisp granite]

tbh it's only an issue if you're degenerated enough to want to play video games on a mac

[thick yew]

apple isn't exactly known for backwards compatibility after all

[crisp granite]

like me

[wheat plume]

They can be
With their own products

But not since m1

[thick yew]

as long as your machine isn't on apple silicon can't you literally just dual boot windows

[crisp granite]

no, my machine is apple silicon

[thick yew]

ah sucks

[crisp granite]

who the fuck would buy an intel macbook?

they're horrible

[wheat plume]

Yeah lol

[thick yew]

I mean at one point in time, not that distant in the past, intel macs were the only option

so

[crisp granite]

I know

apple is only on the second iteration of the silicon for consumer sale

[thick yew]

yes

[crisp granite]

so it hasn't been around long at all

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick yew]

and it's very much only designed for creators lol

"3090 like performance!!" on apple's software

[wheat plume]

Does discord no longer show a little green symbol in new server members names anymore?

[thick yew]

i'd honestly rather use intel Arc than apple silicon

[thick yew]

never has on mobile

[crisp granite]

uh...tbh
latest macbooks are devastatingly great for standard computer things like browsing, internet, etc

[wheat plume]

Oh

[thick yew]

well yeah but so is any 300usd laptop

[wheat plume]

So it's any laptop above like 200 dollars

[crisp granite]

the battery life alone
also the speakers and screen

[thick yew]

there's not any real reason to buy an apple silicon laptop unless you're gonna use it

[wheat plume]

Yea...

[thick yew]

cmon they're not that good

maybe battery life but the screen and speakers?

[crisp granite]

most definitely

[wheat plume]

The battery life is fucking insane

[ashen spindle]

the screen is shit, the battery and efficency are great

[wheat plume]

Yep

[thick yew]

wtf is XDR

[wheat plume]

Motion blur for days

[crisp granite]

can get through a full week of lecture notetaking on a single charge

I love it

[thick yew]

why would I ever want an XDR dispaly over AMOLED

[crisp granite]

mainly because I forget to charge it

[ashen spindle]

xdr is talking about the resolution its not a display tech lol

[thick yew]

Liquid Retina XDR display

what is Liquid Retina then?

[ashen spindle]

EXtreme dynamic range

[thick yew]

bruh it's just LCD

[ashen spindle]

its just IPS screens iirc

[thick yew]

it's "high density LCD"

so iphones don't even use oled

my Samsung A52 has an AMOLED screen

[tribal dirge]

they do have OLED screens actually

[wheat plume]

iPhones use OLED I think
But ipads and MacBooks don't

[tribal dirge]

ever since the iphone X they've used OLED

[thick yew]

apparently not

from support.apple.com

[wheat plume]

Iphone X is LCD

[tribal dirge]

oh, mb

[wheat plume]

Wait
No
Iphone XR is LCD

[thick yew]

oh super rettina is oled

[wheat plume]

720p.

[thick yew]

what the hell

[wheat plume]

It's not

[thick yew]

please apple use standard names

[wheat plume]

Super retina is purely about the resolution

Unless that's changed recently

[thick yew]

you're thinking Liquid Retina

[wheat plume]

Oh

[thick yew]

which is different from Super Retina

[crisp granite]

which is IPS

[wheat plume]

Ye

[thick yew]

apple makes me so miffed

[wheat plume]

That's what I'm saying

[crisp granite]

then again, I have multiple IPS displays, and the apple one happens to be the best

by

FAR

[thick yew]

I use a 1440p 144hz ips monitor as my main I also agree lol

was really cheap

[crisp granite]

hopefully M3 MBPs have OLED in em
because I am going to get one of those...

[thick yew]

at the cost of some features but i'm not complaining

[tribal dirge]

apples naming has always been confusing.

[wheat plume]

iPhones have really good motion rendering
Why don't the MacBooks?! :/

Even with 120Hz... Motion blur is so so bad

[thick yew]

motion blur? or ghosting

[wheat plume]

Ghosting

[thick yew]

[wheat plume]

You move a window around
Cant see shit

[ashen spindle]

because they decided color accuracy and all is more important than motion clarity

[wheat plume]

Gaming looks like you smeared Vaseline over it

[thick yew]

both my monitors have little to no visible ghosting

it's great

[ashen spindle]

its not made for gaming

[wheat plume]

Yep xd

[ashen spindle]

just like oled is not made for showing static images 24/7 without burn in

[thick yew]

sure but for the price they charge for their systems they could afford (literally) to do both

[wheat plume]

Their only decent game on Mac is resident evil village

[thick yew]

but.. they use oled..

[wheat plume]

The only game they advertise xd

[crisp granite]

BULLSHIT

[wheat plume]

The other games are arcade games and smaller indie games you don't need a powerful laptop to play

[crisp granite]

...fair

[crisp granite]

NOPE

Metro Exodus is available on the app store

I don't think my iPhone could run it

[wheat plume]

Really?

[crisp granite]

yes really

[tribal dirge]

lol yeah

[wheat plume]

Oh ok

[crisp granite]

you know what else is on the app store?

[thick yew]

oled is like the #1 in terms of color accuracy

QD OLED fixes the brightness problem

[wheat plume]

I'm not including steam btw

[thick yew]

can't wait for QD OLED to become widespread

[crisp granite]

likewise

[wheat plume]

Ah

[ashen spindle]

not really, still is limited

better, but not fixed

[thick yew]

MUCH better than regular oled though

[crisp granite]

exactly

[thick yew]

it's not a small improvement

it's marginal

[ashen spindle]

far from calling it fixed though

[thick yew]

I mean

[tribal dirge]

yeah, except its 10k usd for one lol

[thick yew]

lemme look up the specs

[thick yew]

samsung moment tbh

[tribal dirge]

no, its a Sony BVM E251 24.5" TRIMASTER EL

[crisp granite]

so that's like...what? 500€?

[thick yew]

isn't it a samsung panel technology though?

[tribal dirge]

sony engineered actually.

[wheat plume]

Who makes the displays used in MacBooks?

[thick yew]

https://www.whathifi.com/features/qd-oled-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-game-changing-new-tv-tech

?

[tribal dirge]

samsung, LG, and that other chinese company.

[wheat plume]

Cause Samsung make the ones for iphone and ipad

[crisp granite]

your mom
her fat ass sits on them so they're perfectly flat

[thick yew]

1000 nits brightness with QD OLED

[tribal dirge]

oh right, BOE.

[thick yew]

not bad

[wheat plume]

I'd be perfectly fine if she was sent off to China and never see her again

[ashen spindle]

1000nits at <<10% window size sure

[wheat plume]

Sell this house for a lot of money and move

[ashen spindle]

actual brightness is much lower

like 240

[wheat plume]

Why did Apple stop using a rainbow colored logo?

[rough osprey]

360hz oled when

[crisp granite]

because that was extremely homogae

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tribal dirge]

whats funny is that it uses a special port called SDI

[crisp granite]

just kidding idk

[thick yew]

I'm excited to see the technology age at least lol

[rough osprey]

that lg really monitor really got overhyped before everyone got one

[tribal dirge]

not HDMI (it does have HDMI but the color signal will be limited to 8 bit color than the 12 bit color of the SDI port)

[wheat plume]

Android: won't do an Android upgrade if the battery is below 40%
Even if you have your phone plugged in

Aaaaghhhhh

[crisp granite]

meanwhile apple be like

must be above x battery level or plugged in for update

👍

key word: or

[wheat plume]

Ye

[pale sigil]

I mean you're comparing IPS to Mini LED lol

Its obviously going to be better

[sharp badger]

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-just-enabled-native-ray-tracing-on-the-steam-deck-and-it-actually-looks-pretty-wild/ 35fps in Doom Eternal

[long star]

what u guys think is better, the harpe ace aim lab edition or logtiech superlight

[old marlin]

both decent mice

shape is a subjective thing

so if the harpe fits you it will prob be better than the gpx

[long star]

shhh, right now i got the logitech superlight

ill just stick with the logitech

[lethal hinge]

looking for a cool pc case anyone know some sick ones?

[sharp badger]

Cool in what way?

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00GU-00063 This is the coolest 😆

On a more serious note e.g. InWin, Jonsbo, Thermaltake, Raijintek have special looking cases

[lethal hinge]

aethetically pleasing and can hold a 3060+ size gpu and stuff of course good air circulation

[sharp badger]

Here's a few more if the above didn't suffice Hyte, Montech, NZXT, Fractal Design, Lian Li, Geometric Future, DeepCool, Asus, Cooler Master etc.

[lethal hinge]

thanks!

[ashen spindle]

Yeah was talked about in game talk, a 6500xt can do double that for cheaper so nothing crazy, just means dxvk has the working etwas calls now

So a bit misleading since doom just runs well and doesn’t use heavy RT

[sharp badger]

Ah ok didn't know that it was posted there 😅 but it's a step forward for handheld gaming and for some the Steam deck is their main "pc" until prices of components come down 😀

[ashen spindle]

Ehh I mean it’s just for steam os, if you had installed windows on it you could already do that for months

It’s nice that’s working natively now for sure, think sites just saw the number and thought it’s an insane thing to make happen

[sharp badger]

Ok & yeah probably 😀

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/NDlQrK_QAzY

dafuq dis

[ashen spindle]

a clickbait title

[wheat plume]

Yes

its not even a browser, its an extension

that runs a browser in the cloud

[ashen spindle]

ah so we make it secure by running it in an insecure location, genius

[wheat plume]

germany?

hes using a data center in germany to run this

[ashen spindle]

running stuff in the cloud so whoever has access to that has access to your data in theory?

[wheat plume]

yep

they could

making the browser window transparent.... why though

[tame hedge]

i3wm users are a different breed

[wheat plume]

xd I like i3 but I cant be bothered to go back to it, takes too much effort to set up the way I like

same for any TWM really for me

[wheat plume]

Does Windows know if you install it in a VM?

like a lot of Linux distros show you a message if you are in a VM that performance will be worse than native hardware when you boot them up in a VM

[crimson wigeon]

Obviously

[wheat plume]

WASHNG MACHINES USE GAS IN AMERICA?????

dafuq

[reef patrol]

They have internal gas heaters as an alternative to electricity yes. It happens.

[fair gull]

thank the germans

or takumi fujiwara

your choice

[wheat plume]

America also mostly use gas stoves....

🤦‍♀️

[fair gull]

tbf gas stoves have 1 big big advantage

[wheat plume]

got to manually light them on fire to start cooking

what is the advantage? Making you die sooner than normal due to gas leaks?

[fair gull]

you know theres gas detectors like fire alarms

[reef patrol]

In practice there's an igniter built in, so not like they need a lighter.

[reef patrol]

My building can still blow up from a gas leak that's beeping

[wheat plume]

Yeahhhhhh...

[fair gull]

true but gas stoves are the only stoves that can give you wok hay

unless you use wood for fire

[wheat plume]

wat

[fair gull]

basically the food touching the fire

[wheat plume]

hhmm

[tribal dirge]

*dryers

[fair gull]

color me silly but having had only a gas stove at my GFs place there is a distinct difference

especially in stir fried foods

[tribal dirge]

Gas stoves are superior, I need the fire for that stir fry.

[fair gull]

even normal pan fried stuff tastes ever so slightly different

its like grilling with actual wood

where the food absorbs some flavors

[reef patrol]

I will concede that point. But keep it to a flask, not a whole ass gas line then

[fair gull]

i mean im fine with gas powered stoves relying on a flask

[reef patrol]

But gas stoves have health risks even when functioning normally

[fair gull]

but gas stoves arent a minus at all

[tribal dirge]

You need the wok and the fire.

[fair gull]

well my gf loves the wok

so usually everything is made in a wok when she cooks

i just dont

[reef patrol]

I shall continue to suffer from induction stove kitchens.

No proper wok.

[tribal dirge]

Smh, you need the fire, see when you have campfire you need the fire, not a camp “induction stove”

[fickle ore]

I'm fine with induction, don't need extra PAH's

[fair gull]

well they do wanna get rid of gas in NL

so i also opt for induction

[fickle ore]

Wait you need to get rid of gas before they let you use electricity? damn

[fair gull]

no

i just dont see the need to replace smth if it works

[fickle ore]

How about your health

[tribal dirge]

If they get rid of my fire, I’ll make my own fire.

[fair gull]

well i dont think ill die any sooner

[fickle ore]

It's good to have faith, always

[fair gull]

2 more years with gas vs a good grand or 2 for a new stove, oven and kitchen table top

uh ya no

[tribal dirge]

Just like my parents in china, they had a huge brick and clay wood burning stove outside.

And a turbofan to get it extra hot.

[fickle ore]

Then again good lungs are priceless and cost over 100k

[tribal dirge]

I remember them telling me stories about them using it to smelt aluminum. That’s how hot it gets.

[fair gull]

well i already ruined those by smoking a few packs a week for 3months

almost a pack a day

[fickle ore]

Naah 😄 lungs repair themselves

[fair gull]

so

i live 2 more years with this

and they got decades to heal

[tribal dirge]

I see

[fair gull]

i really just have bigger issues to solve first like paying to get my shit moved from germany to the netherlands, getting and apartment in this hell hole of a country that isnt in the middle of nowhere and also furnishing said apartment

[fickle ore]

Yeah of course

But if buying new, always opt for induction imo

[fair gull]

as said

ill opt for induction as soon as i buy new anyway

they dont sell new gas stoves iirc

so i couldnt even if i wanted

[fickle ore]

If you're renting I don't think you ever need to buy? I only had to buy when I moved to my own

[fickle ore]

Oh cool

[fair gull]

i would still buy for the reason of getting a good induction stove

not the cheapest

[fickle ore]

I have Gram something, no idea if its any good

prob cheap

[fair gull]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B076LFP21K/?tag=induktionsherd2-rtl01-21

i thought about either that one

[empty wren]

Have you tried herbal rose

[fair gull]

cause it comes with a stove

or a good bosh one

[fair gull]

???

[empty wren]

Smokes

Vanilla and herbal ones

Actors use the same ones

[final flame]

@gusty kiln
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSZce050z0

[sharp badger]

https://item.jd.com/100045382892.html Asus ROG OLED for sale in China now , ￥8299 will probably cost 1400€~ then 🤔

[gusty kiln]

KEK

[gusty kiln]

seems pretty similar

I can see 1300, which is the same as the 1440p 360Hz IPS

you choose either OLED or 360Hz

is apple's coating any better than the usual matte coating?

seems like 1000 even

the only thing they can improve is the refresh rate

120hz on the Pro XDR would be amazing

probably something custom

which apple can afford

[fair gull]

why did samsung make a 55" ark monitor

just why

[gusty kiln]

I'd get it for meme productivity

https://image-us.samsung.com/SamsungUS/home/quick-assets/08112022/G97NB_001_R-Perspective-Vertical_Black.jpg?$product-details-jpg$

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-headtilt-head-tilt-huh-gif-13304724

[pallid swift]

Here's my monitor

[fair gull]

at least you got a monitor

imagine a 13inch mbp a good 0.6m away

[gusty kiln]

https://www.amazon.com/Glasses-Massive-Micro-OLED-Augmented-iOS-Consoles-Compatible/dp/B0BF5LKP5Q/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1HSHFK445XB12&keywords=nreal\&qid=1678045479&sprefix=nreal%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3

ez 201" monitor

[fair gull]

i thought about those

but unsure about responsiveness and how actually useable it is

[gusty kiln]

not sure how compatible it is with a Mac but it's 90hz and a direct USB-C connection

should be pretty responsive

think you might need an adapter though

[fair gull]

the only issue i saw was it doesnt fill the FOV very well

and many reviews i read also mentioned its worse than the nreal light

might be easier to get a normal HMD like the quest or smth

[latent mural]

Just picked up the Alienware QD-OLED monitor I love it so far

[reef patrol]

If only I had that kind of disposable income 😄

All of the one I have? 😄

[fickle ore]

@reef patrol just do lottery each week

😄

[empty wren]

Try varjo it even has μLED

[long walrus]

Looking to Speak with (In VC) a Wooting One TKL Owner and they are looking or are purchasing the Wooting Two Full Size.

[ashen spindle]

uh what

[long walrus]

I have questions about their keyboard experience.

[ashen spindle]

just ask the question directly

[long walrus]

I like to talk in detail, so I am saving the Typing.

What Games do you play on your Wooting Keyboard?

[pale sigil]

CV1 and Quest 1

[pale sigil]

I was just answering your question

[empty wren]

Varjo

Gemini v5 hand tracking includes dealing some occulsion

Like a hand in front of a hand works fine so long as it seems some of it

Oh

That is lame

But fair enouvh

Xr 3 has inside in

In beta

Oh

Yeah either quest 2 or psvr 2 then

There is the htc thing

Then there is also the defunct mixed reality

Okay but they are lowering the price of virtual reality

Well just use a separate account then

I mean I use Gmail locke I could not care if Google scans my emails

I do read some

But at this time almost all companies do this stuff

Like my shopify app

Wants to scan my emails for order numbers

I let it

Okay but graphene is a mobile os

Does not run on oculus quest

Well technically I guess it could

But still

I mean to be fair

It is not Xbox one kinect

Microsoft dropped the ball there

Regardless psvr was always pretty good

Since not an expensive computer is required

And headset just works

No fiddling around

[sudden smelt]

does anyone know in what country the wooting products are being produced?

[empty wren]

China lol

[ashen spindle]

some china some taiwan

[sudden smelt]

ah makes sense

[empty wren]

Wrist rest

That sounds strange

Due to gamepass or something?

Or downloaded games

Hmm

Well weird

Like I know Microsoft clammed down on cheats and hacks and jailbreaks

But not being able to be offline seems weird

Tf

Why does the navy need a ps5

Like I heard of a guy playing on a Nintendo switch h on a submarine

But alright then

[crisp granite]

...easy

being on ship deployment is fucking boring

[empty wren]

I thought they would mostly be occupied with ship shaping

[crisp granite]

you're working, or...quite frankly sitting idle if not doing the basics like sleeping and eating

[empty wren]

Not playing games

Hmm is the navy like a soft military company

[crisp granite]

true

softies

[ashen spindle]

not its simply that if you were to have people to 6 hours of sleep and 18 hours of work they would quit and/or die or mentally degrade

[empty wren]

Fair point

[crisp granite]

and tight quarters

ships really do not have that much space

[empty wren]

I just always imagine the military as super atrict

Or at least on their bases in whatever form they are

[crisp granite]

lolnope

[ashen spindle]

its not like they let you play on phone in the middle of an operation

[crisp granite]

most chill places on earth

[carmine forge]

Sry to interrupt but can someone just help me with clarifying smth quickly?

[crisp granite]

just do your job

that's it

[empty wren]

Spit it out

[ashen spindle]

well we dont know what you question is so who knows

[crisp granite]

iirc it doesn't actually count for labour statistics here

[carmine forge]

Idk which batch this is referring to since I can't cross-reference it with the messages in #📦│batch_updates so was just wondering if there was an estimated date within April for it

[crisp granite]

but yeah, just a job

[empty wren]

Dop

[crisp granite]

and honestly, not a bad one

[ashen spindle]

if there is no info on it then its a new batch with no further info yet

and nothing more precise than april yet

[carmine forge]

Ah ok

[empty wren]

Get exercise in and chill it sounds like

[crisp granite]

it's not "chilling", per se

but as far as jobs go, much worse is around, and it's a very respectable occupation

get to specialise, make a career, good stuff

[carmine forge]

And is that the shipping date to me or shipping from manufacturing to warehouse or wherever they're stored before distribution

[ashen spindle]

to your place

[crisp granite]

also direct entry into officer ranks from NCM is a fun option for when you're bored of your petty officers being themselves

[carmine forge]

Ah ok

Just considering getting it since I was looking at the steelseries apex pro and I just thought that at that price point I might as well get something better

[empty wren]

It is better if you are sweat or just want something that will last

Apex pro is good by all means but is meant more for the old consumer

Has the OLED screen

[carmine forge]

Latter atm but also do want to get into keyboards a lot more than I have done

[empty wren]

Well this well definitely leapfrog you against others then

[carmine forge]

The best I've done is repair my membrane keyboard after it snapped in half from accidentally swiping it off my table

[empty wren]

Some stuff many people will have never heard of

Since it is some of wootings originality

[carmine forge]

Yeah I didn't know about HE until looking and comparing

[empty wren]

Say that to people running synapse

[carmine forge]

For example

[empty wren]

That is far worse

[carmine forge]

Yeah like lekker switches

[empty wren]

No not that

I mean rapid trigger

[carmine forge]

Oh yeah

[empty wren]

And DKS

[carmine forge]

DKS?

oh wait

double keystroke

[empty wren]

Dynamic key stroke

[carmine forge]

Dynamic

[empty wren]

Wooting has 4 actions since forever and razer only has 2

[carmine forge]

How does DKS work?

[empty wren]

Multiple actions per key

[carmine forge]

Based on actuation distance?

[empty wren]

Based on action actuation distance

So middle, bottom, middle again and let off

[carmine forge]

Wait

[empty wren]

Maybe some day we will be able to customize that

[carmine forge]

So doing it in that order?

Or am I misunderstanding this

[empty wren]

What

[carmine forge]

Wdym by this

[empty wren]

Oh sorry

So imagine 2.0mm out of 4

First action

Then 4mm

Then back to 2.0mm

Then back to 0mm

Those are the distances

[carmine forge]

So basically stopping at one of those distances to signify a different action?

[empty wren]

Yes

And in some games you can combine it

[carmine forge]

Surely that would increase delay and lower APM though

[empty wren]

In a way like casting a spell in specific area in league of legends

[carmine forge]

If you did it in that way

[empty wren]

It would yes

But it is possible

[carmine forge]

How

[empty wren]

Lemme find the gif

[carmine forge]

Like give me an example - I play league

Ty

I mean the rapid trigger is something I'm going to enjoy as (seeminlgy this season) an evelynn OTP

[empty wren]

Rapid trigger is just a floating reset point+actuation activated after the first reset

Think of it as rapid fire

And the way it also works out is since it appears everywhere if you allow it, it is more reliable

[carmine forge]

Yeah I saw the gif of how it works

[empty wren]

Because you can press deeper in on accident

But resetting at the sensitivity will yield the same result whether you did not press deeper in

[carmine forge]

So wait on this

Holding down so say 4mm to position the spell

And then release to cast it?

As opposed to having to click to cast it

[empty wren]

Halfway is positioning it

[carmine forge]

Ok I see how it works now

[empty wren]

Yep

[carmine forge]

But what does the Shift + Q mean

[empty wren]

https://youtu.be/Tu2GoPjcwEQ?list=TLGGgwnupFwF-AIwNjAzMjAyMw

[empty wren]

Button combo to cast it

[carmine forge]

Ah

Didn't know shift + ability button allows you to cast it

[empty wren]

Well it might be a rebind as far as I know

[carmine forge]

I normally just play with quick cast on and have the spell areas turned off but would be nice for warding and certain abilities like cait traps etc

[empty wren]

It will be slower like you said

But it nice to have relative behavior on the same key

[carmine forge]

Yeah

[empty wren]

Like say you bound middle to w

And then bottom to shift w

[carmine forge]

I do know what I'm definitely going to use this for though

I have too many keybinds for DCS

[empty wren]

Well there you go then will save you some trouble

[carmine forge]

Ah so you have to bind it to an existing key combination

[empty wren]

No

[carmine forge]

But you bind the action actuation distance to that

Oh

[empty wren]

You can rebind the key

Like make running to L for example

Whatever pleases you

[carmine forge]

No what I mean is

In-game

Like say in league

[empty wren]

I just wanted to give an example of the same key for running and walking

[carmine forge]

Is there an option to rebind the action to be a deeper point on the same key?

[empty wren]

Well in game control probably

[carmine forge]

Or does it act more like a macro

[empty wren]

But you can use your existing binds

This is closer to a macro

Since it not one action per key

It is many actions per key

[carmine forge]

Yeah

[empty wren]

But at the same time it behaves differently

[carmine forge]

So how would you bind that in-game

[empty wren]

Probably in the area of dark grey territory

[carmine forge]

Take Lux E for example

[empty wren]

Actually let us put that aside

Take any of your existing binds and in the wootility you bind to the same key

[carmine forge]

Ah ok

Got it

[empty wren]

Sorry if I confused you

[carmine forge]

So I would bind my lux E cast and release to E

[empty wren]

Yes

You can absolutely do that

[carmine forge]

And then in the wootility set the inidividual actions based on distance

[lethal hinge]

i'm in the air force and theres no air conditioning in the hangars that WORK

[empty wren]

Lol

[carmine forge]

Just get someone to hop into a jet - subsidised heating since the government is paying for it

Well ty for the help

I'm probably going to order it in the next week or so

[empty wren]

Sure

[lethal hinge]

lol i can hop into a jet but it aint gonna be air conditioned lol

[carmine forge]

Since I'm getting a new mousepad as well - been slowly getting better peripherals to compliment my new pc

[carmine forge]

I mean

If you're at altitude

[empty wren]

Well even if you do not use DKS

[carmine forge]

And eject from the cockpit

[lethal hinge]

oh ur saying fly it

[empty wren]

Still will have a nice feeling linear keyboard

[carmine forge]

Yeah