🔌│tech

[shadow minnow]

Wdym I am sure macbooks are great for fortnite

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow this also doesn't cost 1600 for the shit i want

[pale sigil]

aye, the only gripe so far is hdmi

[shadow minnow]

No mini led too

[cursive summit]

A bit lacking on the connectivity side

[pale sigil]

i dont want hdmi xD

i mean it has a usb c port

[shadow minnow]

Also 1.4 is a bad hdmi

[pale sigil]

i can doa lot from it

[pale sigil]

i wouldn't use it.

[halcyon moss]

note that only the 6000 series can have thinderbolt

[shadow minnow]

Does it support display pass through though?

If yes at what speeds

[pale sigil]

3.2 gen 2

[cursive summit]

@pale sigilHonestly if you can definitely get it up to 600, this seems like a no brainer for me

A really decent laptop

[shadow minnow]

So not the best for external displays

[halcyon moss]

its fine

[pale sigil]

how?

lol

[shadow minnow]

Except it lacks a single port that could properly drive a display

[pale sigil]

it has hdmi?

[halcyon moss]

and usbc alt mode?

[ashen spindle]

bro its 500 laptop, 1.4 has can do fullhd at 120hz, what else do you want to drive with that

[cursive summit]

"This includes support for 4096×2160 at 24 Hz, 3840×2160 at 24, 25, and 30 Hz, and 1920×1080 at 120 Hz"

[shadow minnow]

1.4

[pale sigil]

And?

[cursive summit]

I'm not sure what you have against 1.4b but this seems adequate

[pale sigil]

I can also just run it over USB C

[shadow minnow]

Well with 3050 I would want to run 1440p 120 for more basic games which it can not

[ashen spindle]

what 4k 240hz monster do you plan to put on a 3050 laptop where 1.4 is not enough

[shadow minnow]

With 10gbps bandwidth

[ashen spindle]

its a 3050 mobile

[pale sigil]

Again and?

[cursive summit]

He plays on M1, I bet he runs 4k300Hz no problem

[pale sigil]

its a 3050....

[cursive summit]

Those apple users getting amazing performance

kappa

[pale sigil]

Most id want is to use 1440/120hz

Lol

Which i can use over usb if needed

I will say no thunderbolt is sad

[halcyon moss]

i disliked my 1050ti maxq in my previous laptop :/
i really hope the 3050 is a lot better

[cursive summit]

But yeah those are really damn nice specs Cal

Display alone is kinda worth it 500$

But it'll run ye games and it'll do it well, I guess

[pale sigil]

Not going to be heavy gaming, most likely just gonna older games or most demanding FN/D2

if im away

Which i even doubt that since i dont game when im out

[cursive summit]

I wish my 4K display was 16", there are major scaling issues with 4K

Mine's a 13"

[pale sigil]

i just wanted *some GPU^

[reef patrol]

But - Can it run MINECRAFT

[shadow minnow]

Nope you can not

That’s the issue

[pale sigil]

Why?

[reef patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-cat-irl-kinect-meme-gif-21086323

[shadow minnow]

3.2 gen 2 doesn’t support that

[cursive summit]

I think he's right, the USB doesn't support alt mode

[shadow minnow]

And if it would it would be 1440p 60 max

[cursive summit]

You'd need the USB to have alt-mode to support display out, methinks

[shadow minnow]

That also

[halcyon moss]

yes

[cursive summit]

Yoga doesn't seem to have USB alt on any of the ports

[ashen spindle]

1440p 80 or so

[pale sigil]

Eh still not that bothered

[ashen spindle]

and again, its a fucking 3050 mobile not a 4090

[cursive summit]

So you're stuck with HDMI 1.4b, which is still adequate

[pale sigil]

I dont exactly plan to use it to replace everything.

[cursive summit]

So Bexin stop nitpicking you fuckin apple nerd

[shadow minnow]

Well pleasant plays Minecraft where it can be enough

[shadow minnow]

I am definitely not saying he should get a MacBook

[pale sigil]

i would not play minecraft on a laptop

even so especially not modded

[shadow minnow]

Why?

[pale sigil]

I told you i dont really want it for gaming, i just wanted any gpu.

[halcyon moss]

2 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (1x full function, 1x power delivery + DisplayPort)

[shadow minnow]

Well as long as 1440p 60 is enough for you

[pale sigil]

its for everyday use and extremely casual gaing if im away.

And to not be at my desk all the damn time

[halcyon moss]

https://www.lenovo.com/lb/en/laptops/yoga/yoga-slim-series/Yoga-Slim-7-Pro-Gen-6-16-inch-AMD/p/LEN101Y0005
is it that one?

[shadow minnow]

Which supports max 1440 60

[pale sigil]

e

no

yes

kinda

Well this is confusing

the picture is different

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-slim-series/yoga-slim-7-pro-gen-6-(16-inch-amd)/82qq003puk

[halcyon moss]

well that website is nearly useless..

[pale sigil]

pretty much

[cursive summit]

What's the product code

The real info is in psref

[pale sigil]

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-slim-series/yoga-slim-7-pro-gen-6-(16-inch-amd)/82qq003puk

[cursive summit]

https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/Yoga/Yoga_Slim_7_Pro_16ACH6?M=82qq003puk

This is their database for enterprise

Whatever is in there is 100% accurate

[pale sigil]

None of the promo is remotely similar

on this page

[cursive summit]

Then you either have a 1) Fucky listing

2. Wrong part number

[halcyon moss]

1x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Power Delivery 3.0 and DisplayPort 1.4)

[pale sigil]

ah so iits more than fine

nice

[pale sigil]

this is what annoys me

because i wanted the one in the pic

[wheat plume]

One thing I hate about Lenovo's laptops
They swap control and FN keys ;_;

So I always hit FN instead of Ctrl

[halcyon moss]

you can switch that in bios

and.. you get used to it

[wheat plume]

Hmmm

[pale sigil]

tbf

its still good

i just hate the numberpad

[cursive summit]

It is the one in the pic

https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/Yoga_Slim_7_Pro_16ACH6?tab=spec

[pale sigil]

no

[cursive summit]

Oh yours ddn't have a numpad

That sounds like extra goodies to me

[pale sigil]

tbf now that i zoomed into it

its way to thin

to be a 3050 laptop

[cursive summit]

According to psref

[pale sigil]

ye but if you zoom in the pic i showed i mean

xD

[cursive summit]

17.4 mm thick

That's.. pretty damn thin

I really dig that damn display

[halcyon moss]

so itll probably throttle

[cursive summit]

Did Lenovo finally stop distributing their stupid ass 60Hz FHD thing everywhere

[wheat plume]

huh?

[pale sigil]

no

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-slim-series/yoga-slim-7-pro-14itl5/wmd00000492

there it is lol

[halcyon moss]

but the displays are at least decent now.. they used to be terrible

[pale sigil]

the actual model i mean

[cursive summit]

Man fuck those FHD displays

When I was a lenovo rep enterprise was always like "What laptop can you get me"

"Oh it's this FHD one or.. this FHD one"

Unless you get "gaming" laptops which for some reason are look down upon

[pale sigil]

took long enough to get past 720p

lol

[cursive summit]

They did start making QHD ones.. at 60Hz

Good to know we are breaking past that stupid 60Hz barrier at long last

[pale sigil]

right so its the 14" version

thats the model in the pic

either way

still a good deal

[wheat plume]

most laptops you find in a tech store in ireland still have 4GB ram, Hard drive and 768p screen

for like 500 euro .-.

[pale sigil]

move

Also

fuck soldered ram

[wheat plume]

any laptop thinner than usual will have soldered ram

[pale sigil]

the original lappy i wanted was insane

but wentout of stock when i woke up

had a 3070ti and 6800h

[wheat plume]

I hate how people are like "WhY CaNt ThE STeAM DecK Go To SLEeP ModE AnD KEeP DowNLoaDIng My GAmeS?"

Yet its a computer, and I bet they dont get mad at their computer when it doesnt download games in sleep mode

[pale sigil]

i agree with them

[shadow minnow]

Same

[pale sigil]

Valve do something.

[shadow minnow]

It’s annoying when computers don’t download games in sleep too

[pale sigil]

its not being bought for a PC

[shadow minnow]

Macs sometimes do but it seems like not always, confuses me a bit tbh

[pale sigil]

Made a sudo sleep mode.

idfk

[wheat plume]

I am usually using my computer anyway when its downloading

[pale sigil]

give the option at least

[shadow minnow]

But even then, PCs should have the feature too

[pale sigil]

idc about pc, i care about my deck being on for hours

the screen

and the only way to bypass it is desktop mode

[shadow minnow]

No matter if pc or deck with slow wifi downloads can take ten hours

So would be useful for well both

[wheat plume]

wait, games keep downloading in desktop mode if its in sleep mode?

[shadow minnow]

I think it’s more about screen not being on

[pale sigil]

if the display goes off

what bexin said

[wheat plume]

People are also pushing for Steam Deck exclusive games

WHY?

[pale sigil]

16:10 ration is nice tho

i just dont like the keyboard

its one of the reasons i hated my last tone

[wheat plume]

Technically, Aperture Desk Job is "Exclusive" to the Deck cause it's basically a hardware demo, but if you use a controller with motion controls, it still works fine like PS5 or Switch Pro

LOL

[ashen spindle]

if that is about deck exclusives that comment is stupid

because unlike the deck laptops have the same fragmentation as desktops

exclusives for the deck would work because its one configuration and one form factor

[pale sigil]

if i had the money to waste idget a razer laptop

they are so pretty

[empty wren]

Had a buddy who had one

Literally wanted to sell it the next week

[pale sigil]

Why hahahahaha

[empty wren]

Lol

[pale sigil]

i would only get one if i didn;'t care about my money

[empty wren]

I do not remember exactly but maybe because it is ovepriced

[pale sigil]

they are beyond overpriced

its crazy

[cursive summit]

They are also really damn good

[pale sigil]

lenovo slim are ok

[cursive summit]

I remember the phenomena where the Razer laptop's 3070 was "max-q" yet behaved like a normal 3070 just with lower tdp

[empty wren]

That looks like the old iphone design

Looks like everyone is copying it

[pale sigil]

But can it do this

[empty wren]

Until you bend it back too much

And the screen turns funny

[cursive summit]

I am yet to understand why this is necessary

[empty wren]

Why even is that a feature

[pale sigil]

no idea

[empty wren]

X1 carbons do the same

[pale sigil]

i think ill get that laptop

it can run d2 100fps 1080p

thats the only game i can imagine caring about

[empty wren]

[halcyon moss]

razor laptops kill themselves

[pale sigil]

its pretty ok at 1080p and im sure ill cope if i really really wanted to game

[empty wren]

I would not be suprised

[pale sigil]

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-300/ideapad-gaming-3i-gen-7-(16-inch-intel)/82sa0029uk

saw this

but quality and build is awful

[halcyon moss]

i had a friend who went through 2 of them because they killed themselves..

[cursive summit]

There's a bit of an issue with the slim

The screen is 1440p

[pale sigil]

you can downscale just fine, it wont look amazing ik.

But also render resolution

[empty wren]

At that point honestly anything is probably better

[cursive summit]

Should support FSR though

Will run faster

[pale sigil]

DLSS too

[cursive summit]

I actually had my first game with FSR enabled like, a week ago

Turned on FSR quality and the FPS gain was really nice

[pale sigil]

I dont like FSR or well mye xperience

[cursive summit]

Gaming didn't feel off at all, I don't get the nitpicking

[pale sigil]

its alway blurry

when i try both

but it could be an older version

[cursive summit]

Disagree

I was on FSR2 and it was really damn good

[pale sigil]

again i could be getting mixd up

but when i tried it in warzone it was just to noticeable

and spiderman

it just looked a little worse

Another thing to note

16" screen so 1080p downscale is not to bad

vs my 27" where its quite noticible hahahah

shame tho xD

another one had 3070ti and 6800h

which is a nice combo

[wheat plume]

I wish my laptop screen could lean back more :/

[halcyon moss]

flat is nice, real nice

[pale sigil]

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-500-series/ideapad-5-pro-14acn6/82l700l8uk

i like this case a lot

for example

[wheat plume]

Max angle

[pale sigil]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[wheat plume]

?

[wheat plume]

it lifts the laptop up a little so air can get under it to cool it

[pale sigil]

id rather it melt

[wheat plume]

it does anyway ...

[empty wren]

Asus had an even better solution on the zephyrus

[wheat plume]

oh?

[pale sigil]

ths design is extremely nice

[empty wren]

I think the whole bottom opened

[pale sigil]

U processors are so shit tho

[halcyon moss]

https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2022/04/12/rog-zephyrus-g14-4-1649722385044.jpeg
g14 2022
can go all flat

[pale sigil]

love you but i hate it

[wheat plume]

Oo

That is better design xd

[pale sigil]

pro x is nice but they dont have stock

6 weeks lol

[empty wren]

They are meant for efficiency

[pale sigil]

ye

but

they are shit

[empty wren]

Well it is either that or high draining on battery laptop

[pale sigil]

Still shit

then again mine is a 6600u

lol

[halcyon moss]

i get 7 hours if im careful in linux with a 6900HS :p

[empty wren]

No dGPU?

[halcyon moss]

it has one yes

[empty wren]

Hmm

[halcyon moss]

AMD Radeon™ RX 6800S

[empty wren]

Hmm

Is there like iGPU/dGPU toggle switch?

[pale sigil]

rundown of the specs

id totally put linux on it

[wheat plume]

big ass battery!

[halcyon moss]

proper MUX switch

[wheat plume]

Whats a "Slim Tip" AC adapter?

[empty wren]

Aha

[halcyon moss]

lonovo power connector

[wheat plume]

LenOwO

[halcyon moss]

the've been using it for years and is solid

[pale sigil]

afaik the usb c port accepts power in

and i have a 120w usb plug.

[cursive summit]

It does

Just you know, always use the official charger

[pale sigil]

i mean

i will but its good to be able to rely on usb c

[cursive summit]

My 90W Xiaomi supercharger does not charge my Tab S8 Ultra at all

The native 30W or whatever it is Samsung dong charges faster than that turbo

[pale sigil]

I would still have preferred a 14" lappy

[empty wren]

Whoda thunk

[pale sigil]

maybe next time.....

[empty wren]

Xiaomi probably has it for dual battery phones

[cursive summit]

I'll need to take a look how those charger specifications work

[pale sigil]

does it actally output 90w on a single port

[cursive summit]

Cause the Xiaomi charger is far slower than a charger 3x "slower" than it is

On my Tab S8

[wheat plume]

im glad this laptop charges with USB C

I hate the barrel plugs

[empty wren]

But barrel is 360° reversible

[wheat plume]

xdd

[empty wren]

Might also depend on the voltage you tablet supports

[pale sigil]

Ye so idk why its not charging your notepad

or w.e its called

[pale sigil]

was about to sday

45W

why would you get a 92w charger

[halcyon moss]

slim tip is not 360 degrees reversible

[empty wren]

😵‍💫

[pale sigil]

@wheat plume which distro shall i use ha

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyTab/comments/uhj70k/galaxy_tab_s8_ultra_charges_around_2_25x_faster/

[halcyon moss]

arch ofcourse lol

[wheat plume]

Is it convertible?

or have touchscreen?

[pale sigil]

touch screen eys

idk what you mean by convertible

[halcyon moss]

tablet mode

[pale sigil]

Oh nah

[wheat plume]

^

[pale sigil]

2 in 1s are great but terrible at the same time

[wheat plume]

ok, touchscreen, you need gnome desktop then cause plasma desktop is meh on touchscreen

Arch + Gnome!

[pale sigil]

I mean tbf

id only use touch screen for browsers

[halcyon moss]

my recommendation is of course ubuntu :p

[wheat plume]

firefox doesnt like touchscreen ;-;

it highlights text instead of scrolls

[pale sigil]

edge does

extremely well

[wheat plume]

🤢

[pale sigil]

ironically

ikr

[wheat plume]

How is that ironic?

Microsoft make a lot of touchscreen devices

it makes perfect sense

[pale sigil]

The grossest browser by MS on Linux

[wheat plume]

xd

[pale sigil]

The most hated browser has best support for touch in general

[wheat plume]

They want you to use for Game Pass

but you dont need to xd

[pale sigil]

haha ik

You did

But not now irrc

[wheat plume]

xd

nah, they still use Edge on their guide

duh

[wheat plume]

Im being gaslit by someone who is trying to convince me Ubuntu Touch is based on Android .-.

ITS NOT

Its literally in the name

[ashen spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wheat plume]

FOR

Different

there was / is? a port of ubuntu shell for android

[ashen spindle]

idk and dont care just meant to show you can find it in 5 seconds so whatever that conversation was, it was easily avoided

[wheat plume]

yes....its based on Ubuntu

not Android

[pale sigil]

I was so excited for Ubuntu Touch

but irrc it basically got abanoned

[wheat plume]

its not abandoned, its taken over by a new team

UBports

Though the last commit to the repo was a month ago

[shadow minnow]

https://www.mouser.sk/datasheet/2/240/ixyss08889_1-2272274.pdf

This mosfet is pretty good ngl

Expensive too

[vagrant pagoda]

Only tj max 150?

I like to run at atleast 200c

[shadow minnow]

Well what is really nice is up to 32A, 200V and max resistance at room temp 0.13ohms

Or well -32A and -200V

To be correct

[shadow minnow]

4080 makes no sense above 1000$

And the fact cheapest 3090 I can find is for msrp…

[jade stirrup]

Hi , i'm looking for a wireless headset with micro to replace my beyer dt1990pro. Did you know a good model ?

[fair gull]

note headsets always have a mic

headphones do not

[shadow minnow]

So how do I amplify the 555 signal easily to drive mosfets

[tranquil idol]

Honestly if you want good audio you don't use wireless...

[ashen spindle]

dont agree with that

sure you wont get a wireless orhpeus but for normal quality good audio you can still have that wireless

[frozen ingot]

you can get seriously good wireless headphones nowadays, the vast majority won't know any better and if they do it'll take some pretty esoteric audiophile gear to really make an improvement

[wheat plume]

In some songs, my wireless earbuds sound better than my wired headset

sometimes its the other way around

[ashen spindle]

well that is more from your wired headset not being particularly good

[wheat plume]

Why are tablets running Android 9 Go Edition being made in 2020?a

[frozen ingot]

to make them cheap enough for people to get suckered in

[wheat plume]

it took almost 2 minutes to boot up

[crimson wigeon]

A lot of those cheap noname brands are just the same hardware from many years ago, and why spend the effort making it run modern software when you can spend no effort on software at all

[frozen ingot]

they're only made to sell, not to be used

[wheat plume]

yeah :/

[crimson wigeon]

Instead just selling them to suckers

[ashen spindle]

is it hardware made in this year or is it just older and thus cant run newer stuff?

[wheat plume]

definetly older hardware just built in 2020

[ashen spindle]

and android 9 was not end of life in 2020 so whats the problem?

[wheat plume]

problem is how shit the hardware is, its so slow and awful to use that its basically eWaste

[sharp badger]

🆕 dedotated wam https://youtu.be/wsO-Td0hqXo

[wheat plume]

I know of too many fetishes to know what WAM means...

[reef patrol]

Disregard WAM, acquire WAP

[wheat plume]

:')

[reef patrol]

Get your mind out of the gutter and into the trash bin.

[wheat plume]

Trash Bin: Where I belong

[fair gull]

thats why also android 9 still works

[wheat plume]

huh?

[fair gull]

if you click on it you see you had a question right before it

[wheat plume]

idk how tf boot time and Android 9 still working are related

[wheat plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZfAehlfwmmw

[mild finch]

do you guys know how i should clean my superlightss mouse sensor? its super dusty

[vivid vine]

@gusty kiln

Thought the world was going to end before Zowie dropped a wireless mouse

[latent mural]

yo rq can someone help me (this isnt rrelated to like keyboards or anything)

im trying to download a mod for a game but when i click it to get the installer to open it opens the like file

it doesnt open the installer just the file

[ashen spindle]

did you download an installer or a folder?

[latent mural]

a folder ig?

but i went through all the correct steps

[ashen spindle]

well what did you download

[crimson wigeon]

A mod for a game is what they said. They all work the same you know!

[latent mural]

a mod

for mc

forge

[ashen spindle]

you gotta be more specific

[fickle ore]

Any ideas why my pc boot is delayed? Like I press the power button but nothing happens for a minute then it boots up

[pale sigil]

@latent mural are you trying to run forge.

For Minecraft specifically

If so I'd suggest using Poly MC and starting a froge instant or GDLauncher

The you can just add mods galore

[latent mural]

yes

[latent mural]

alright

so

ill tell you what i did step by step

i went to the forge site

downloaded 1.19

clicked the file

and it didnt open the download page

just oppened the file

[pale sigil]

It shouldn't open the download page?

Screenshot.

[latent mural]

it should

[latent mural]

it just opens the file

[pale sigil]

Pics?

[gusty kiln]

Oh shit

[fair gull]

i mean just use polymc and your life is fixed

[pale sigil]

I did suggest it lol

[cursive summit]

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/29/tsmc-3nm-mass-production-begins/

I mean, I shouldn't complain but calling TSMC just an "Apple supplier" is just disrespecting the company

[proud cosmos]

I need help guys, I put on tachyon mode and my PC flipped out and now my NVME ssd isn’t there anymore

Like it corrupted

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

I mean apple is basically funding tsmc to be world leading instead of being just like GF or so

[frozen ingot]

coiled cable I take it

[pale sigil]

Lol

I got a power surge on the usb port my 60he was on once

But I don't use the provided cable since I don't really use tach mode

[ashen spindle]

one could say buying an iphone funds tsmc so you should buy apple products to get better cpus and gpus

[cursive summit]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-responds-to-rx-7900-xtx-hotspot-fiasco

[pale sigil]

Could you just yanno

Put the response?

[ashen spindle]

tldr you can send it in for rma, but could take some weeks bc low stock

and works fine even with the temps

[cursive summit]

What, you really can't read that badly that "tl;dr" is now a rule?

[ashen spindle]

well its not quite a lot of info that makes sense to be in article form when its just paraphrasing a direct reply from amd

[shadow minnow]

@cursive summit should buy apple products

[still loom]

TLDR is AMD shop has been rejecting returns

[pale sigil]

I just don't wanna read an article for a small thing.

[cursive summit]

I'd rather die

[still loom]

So AMD are now taking over from the shop saying we will accept them

[shadow minnow]

Well that’s false

[still loom]

But they haven't given any details regarding it

Just to contact support

[cursive summit]

That is actually true

[pale sigil]

I love the term I'd rather die

Because in reality you just wouldn't.

[cursive summit]

I will die first before getting an apple device

Test me then

Come on, try my spirit

[shadow minnow]

That’s not the same

[pale sigil]

If I had a gun to my head saying I have to use an iPhone for the rest of my life.

Damn right I am going to.

[cursive summit]

As stupid as it sounds, I will hold onto my ideals and stay true to myself and just fuckin die

[pale sigil]

Would give me an excuse to get an apple watch tho.

[cursive summit]

And that's fine cause that situation will never happen so I can just not use apple for once in my life

[ashen spindle]

so I can send you an airtag or so from apple and that would make you jump?

[pale sigil]

I'll make it happen

[shadow minnow]

Now you can’t deny that saying you’d rather die than use a product from a company is biased to negatives, or well being a hateboy

[pale sigil]

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MM6F3ZM/A/polishing-cloth

[shadow minnow]

I don’t think many apple fanboys would choose to die instead of not being allowed to use apple products anymore

[pale sigil]

I like how it's not compatible with older iPads

[ashen spindle]

being a fanboy doesnt really require any resolve to stand with ideals either

[shadow minnow]

@cursive summit but also do we consider LTPO anything as an apple product, as they developed it and probably charge commissions

[pale sigil]

Damn I can't use the cloth with my iPhone 4

[shadow minnow]

Yes ofc. Just saying that if you’d rather die than use a certain product you are probably biased just the other way.

[shadow minnow]

Your iPhone would get deactivated if you would

[cursive summit]

Not sure how that would really be relevant to me

[shadow minnow]

But would you really do that to your waifu, she would have to mourn your death just so you don’t get an apple cloth

[still loom]

Pretty sure fanboys are the minority, people would switch if they are forced to 😂 They just stay because they are in that ecosystem

I've used both iPhone and Android for a long time

[pale sigil]

I've used an iPhone twice

[still loom]

Nothing really wrong with either, there's nothing majorly better in either also

[pale sigil]

5 for just under a year and 6 just under a year

Sadly the latter exploded

[cursive summit]

Apple's ecosystem means literally nothing to me, I don't like the product, I don't like the pricing and I for sure don't like the company

So for as long as I live I will simply oust Apple from my life

[still loom]

Well your decision will make no difference to them 😅

[cursive summit]

And that's completely fine

I like the Apple fanboy Bexin tears

[still loom]

I will say that the OS software on iPhone is slightly better for daily use, but not enough to make a meaningful impact to switch

Android is fine the way it is

The hardware side of Apple products? Could be better

[cursive summit]

I'll be totally fair

I don't need a phone in general

This whole smartphone war thing is just totally dumb, at least for me

I barely even use my phone, and even then it's for YouTube like 99% of the time

[still loom]

It's not really a war, both sides are almost at max right now, they can't improve much so the competition isn't really helping anything

As for people picking sides? That is just human nature

Pointless arguments 😂

[cursive summit]

Meh, I feel like I am from the 50s-60s

Which is fun since I'm from the 00's

[pale sigil]

@shadow minnow the main reason I want a new iPad is battery tbh

Sick of charging it everyday multiple times if needed lol

I miss the old days I could charge once every 3 days XD

[empty wren]

Just tape ipad to wall

And cut out the battery

Probably solved

iPad on mains

[wheat plume]

The new Apple iWall™️

[pale sigil]

Dont give em ideas

[empty wren]

Inb4

Your house is their property

And you are not allowed to repair it

[frozen ingot]

that's already a thing, its called rental housing

[proud cosmos]

anyone else having problems when they set their keyboard to full white?? the first time I did it, it was fine until I turned on tachyon mode and it started spamming buttons. IDK what it press but It ended up with me needing to full on wipe my PC. Well I went back to the wootility and now when I set about 50%-75% of the keyboard to white, It starts pressing random keys. Luckily I spammed esc enough times until I could turn off my pc and stop it.

[ashen spindle]

#1019755933959733258

[proud cosmos]

yeah ik, I posted there but I was just wondering if anyone had the same problem

[ornate tulip]

This happens when the keyboard does not receive enough power through the usb cable or usb port. Use the stock usb cable or a decent cable below 2 meters long and inserted into a usb port directly into the motherboard.

[empty wren]

not enough it neefs apple.logo

[proud cosmos]

ahh ok

[empty wren]

4G++

[vagrant pagoda]

Lmao

4.99G

[weary socket]

Anyone know how to use the tilde key since the wooting 60 doesnt come with it?

[reef patrol]

Depends on how you usually do it in your language on s different keyboard

[fair gull]

i mean if you use US layout on your PC its FN + Shift + ESC

[marsh warren]

Did i hear summin summin bout new products?

[pale sigil]

Yes

[marsh warren]

Gimmeh

oh reminds me i need to register as having some keebs

Alas problems for future me

[pale sigil]

XD should I invest in doge

It's going up again

[fair gull]

should you invest in anything

[pale sigil]

I backed wooting one ks If that counts XD

Fuck ye I made 6p

[shadow minnow]

No

Unless just as a joke

Pyramid scheme

Even stocks by an extend are

[reef patrol]

Where's @crisp granite going?

[crisp granite]

...

[reef patrol]

[crisp granite]

do not buy crypto
all you are doing is betting on someone more stupid than yourself buying it off you for more than you paid

there is a reason no established financial institutions seriously considering becoming CTPs

[pale sigil]

May as well put my pocket change in if

[crisp granite]

wait the currency symbol is just...Ð?

[pale sigil]

Depends on the platform but no

And yes

[pale sigil]

I lost 2p

[crisp granite]

[pale sigil]

I gained 1p

[crisp granite]

can you quit fuckin around with your p's?

I don't care
about how many p's
you gain or lose
every
minute

[reef patrol]

Pleasant will never into big PP.

[pale sigil]

D

F

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/dec/28/dog-doge-meme-kabosu-leukemia-liver-disease

[crisp granite]

literally Pl.xe when "mmm yes I shalt acquire a few pieces of Ðógë, GOD SAVE THE KING"

[frozen ingot]

such all good things. many comes to an end. wow.

[reef patrol]

inb4 Dogecoin is rebranded as a memorial Currency

[earnest juniper]

isanyoneheregoodwithkeyboards

ineedhelpbecausemyspacebardoes'ntwork

[shadow minnow]

That’s not an issue

Itscompletelynormal

[earnest juniper]

nothisisserious

pleaseineedhelp

[reef patrol]

isitawootingkeyboard

[earnest juniper]

noithinkitisaproblemwithmystabilizers

sadlyitsnotawootingboardbutthgisistheonlykeyboardseervericouldfind

my

space

bar

doesnt

work

[shadow minnow]

A good solution is to copy a space from somewhere and paste it everytime you need it @earnest juniper

[cursive summit]

https://hackaday.com/2022/12/31/dirty-usb-c-tricks-one-port-for-the-price-of-two/

[reef patrol]

The debate about whether or not mainboard vs motherboard is sexist in the comments is much more fascinating

[fair gull]

i mean shouldnt they be happy man have no say in computers? only motherboards and daughterboards

[cursive summit]

I kinda like the term of daughterboard ngl

[reef patrol]

Clickbait. It's always clickbait

Spends way too long skipping through video to figure out the video topic

So air coolers are poorly designed? Waterblocks solve it?

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-excited-fun-gif-22275283

I would argue that a bad cooler is still less of a fire hazard than... melting connectors 😄

Sure - Needs to be resolved for sure. But I know which I'd rather be stuck with until each issue is fixed.

The GPU that doesn't start a fire. Overheating GPU can shut down.

And I can play less demanding shit in the meantime.

Dead GPU trumps dead PC

[cursive summit]

Twice as fast, literally

Higher is better

[shadow minnow]

In all fairness TSMC and Intel nm are not the same

5nm tsmc is more like 7nm intel

[ashen spindle]

ez solution to the amd gpu issues is just doing what always worked, dont get FE card even if nvidia in the last 2 gens were good

AiB partners will just be better

[jagged path]

I'm not sure if I should buy abs or pbt, abs are cheaper but I heard that pbt last longer, which one is better?

[cursive summit]

It's typically agreed upon that PBT double shot is superior

But in practice you'd probably see 0 difference

[fair gull]

not even the right channel to ask in

[jagged path]

my bad

[cursive summit]

You'd have to torture your keys in weird inhumane, impractical ways to see the difference

In normal use case scenario where the user is less than erratic and takes care of their equipment, keycap manufacturing style does not at all matter

[reef patrol]

PBT is generally rougher? less smooth. ABS tends to lose its finish and become quite.. smooth and glossy. Your finger oils kind of buffing it out.

[cursive summit]

2 years on ABS and it's mighty fine

[reef patrol]

Definitely depends on how oily your fingers are.

[cursive summit]

Way too much

I secrete body fluids (pardon the expression) like no tomorrow

Yet the caps are holding out incredibly well

[jagged path]

Ok, thank you guys so much

[wheat plume]

Naruto, NARUTOOOOO, DO YOU BELIEVE IT xd

[sharp badger]

It's SK Hynix @Gyrorealm oh nvm the tag didn't work but to anyone that are looking for Hynix kits this is one.

https://usbtypef.github.io/ my ram F5-6000J3040F16G (F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K) isn't listed as Hynix though

[pale sigil]

Gonna pretend the left side of my hd 6xxs cut out for a second

[pale sigil]

is it wrong to like this

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

well

not the macbook

xD

didn't even realise that tbf

[reef patrol]

[ashen spindle]

I mean its a bunch of compromises but if it works it works

[ashen spindle]

actual good screen without laptop rest would be better

[pale sigil]

i just like the idea of not being restricted

I mean ye

tbf

another thing i thought of was a NUC like system

[ashen spindle]

still ass using a laptop keyboard to game

[pale sigil]

Well

i would still have screens at my desk

just have a nice 3d printed holder for the laptop

https://developer-blogs.nvidia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/monitor-nvidia-logo.jpg

found a good pic

[ashen spindle]

yea as I said compromises can make it better, still a compromise compared to having an actual desktop setup

[pale sigil]

For sure.

But tbf i just like the idea of an external GPU

A nice ITX desktop.

And for when i need power just plug in my GPU

[ashen spindle]

sure I just rather not pay more just to have my gpu be on its own

[pale sigil]

not that this is itxc

haha its just the GPU prevents me from going the route i want is all

ive always dreamed of ITX

[ashen spindle]

and itx just gives up free cooling from good airflow unless you go for lower power parts ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fair gull]

i want desk pc

[pale sigil]

You can do ITX just fine minus a beefy GPU

Hence egpu

[ashen spindle]

larger case = larger fan = less noise at some air movement/cooling

cpu needs cooling too

[sharp badger]

https://lian-li.com/product/dk-05f/

[pale sigil]

Well yes but the main point being still conbined its a fuck ton smaller and the GPU does not necessary need to be on the desk

all the time

[ashen spindle]

sure, I just do not care one bit about looks if it hinders performance even a bit xD

[pale sigil]

Tbf i might move out of this phase soon

[sharp badger]

Yeah well it would be nice to have a SFF pc

[ashen spindle]

dont even have my case closed atm because cable length is annoying and all I carea bout is if it makes cooling worse or not lol

[final flame]

just noticed the Lian Li logo looks very similar to LTTs logo

[pale sigil]

i dont care for PCs now tbh

or well looks of it

when i move room im planning to have it away from my desk and just use a long wire lol

@ashen spindle

[ashen spindle]

why give up free heating in the winter though

[reef patrol]

[pale sigil]

Which system is mine

https://streamable.com/cshkn5
https://streamable.com/txch9y

[ashen spindle]

god idk both make me sick

[pale sigil]

Which one is worse then

lol

[ashen spindle]

guess second but its also a smaller view so maybe that makes it worse

[pale sigil]

How is the second worse xD

look at the houses

May look rougher because of refresh rate

[ashen spindle]

I'm getting motion sick looking at either

[pale sigil]

first is 144hz and second is 60hz

60hz less shit to me when playing if i put aside the obvious motion

Look at this part on both videos

one is significantly worse

[ashen spindle]

no I genuinely feel bad watching either due to the slow motion I guess

[pale sigil]

pls

l;-;

@reef patrol

pls anyone

[ashen spindle]

like yes I saw that part but idk whats going on in either because slowmo recording of a screen is not great

[pale sigil]

"well, that top one is disgusting
so yours is bottom?"

[pale sigil]

Same equipment, the issue i show here happened when i streamed to the deck too

[fair gull]

so quin still doesnt know what the issue is

[pale sigil]

ive had 4 others say the first is awful

think ill go and get my spare monitor out to triple check

losing my mind

[ashen spindle]

maybe the first is worse I legit cant tell because both make me nauseous

[fair gull]

im still not even sure what the issue is lol

[crimson wigeon]

It's #StutterStruggle but probably caused by HW being shit

[pale sigil]

Wdym

Also y'all are blind wtf

[fair gull]

evidentally i am not as i watched both

the only weird thing is the alow mo happening

[pale sigil]

LOOK AT THE HOUSES

ITS LIKE THERE IS A SHADOW OR GHOSTING

[crimson wigeon]

Isn't that just the pixels being slow to change

[pale sigil]

but the bottom here is gtx 970!

And the top i was 200fps+ on a 3080

at 60hz on the 970!!!!

or well 60fps and 60hz

[crimson wigeon]

And what is the monitor running at?

Like is it 60hz on both?

[pale sigil]

144hz on thr first

[crimson wigeon]

Then it's not a valid like-for-like comparison

[pale sigil]

How

60hz still looked better haha

[crimson wigeon]

Monitors have different response times and overshoot depending on refresh rate

[pale sigil]

Well, both are 1ms

[ashen spindle]

every monitor in the last 10 years advertises as 1ms lol

[pale sigil]

Regardless I didn't see the issue on his

It felt smoother to play on

[crimson wigeon]

And also if its different monitors then whotever

[pale sigil]

Just put in my other monitor to test for the sake of it

I'll be getting that laptop in a few days so I can test higher refresh rate at least

[astral haven]

You were running unlimited
Unlimited is always gonna be less smooth than synced

[crimson wigeon]

Still both vids are hard to look at showing a lot of motion artifacts, pls keep your hands steady when filming and use consistent movements. How many times do I have to tell you to use a controller to have a smooth spinning around motion

[astral haven]

You were not making a direct comparison

[pale sigil]

I was actually testing it in vsync too and no, 60hz was vsync on

*with

Well

um

this is interesting

[astral haven]

And 144hz was vsync off...

[crimson wigeon]

That too

[pale sigil]

and on...

.tested with both

[astral haven]

This image has determined that is not the case...

[crimson wigeon]

Although I remember hearing here that there's also tearing even with vsync on which to me screams giga broken hardware or software

[pale sigil]

Thats my point

we did all that

[astral haven]

Btw if you also swapped GPU and CPU and monitor at the same time, you have no way of knowing what is the difference maker

[pale sigil]

huh

oh

[astral haven]

Fast GPUs can cause pain for CPUs
They amplify stutter significantly...

[pale sigil]

So my CPU could be theissue?

Welp i might have solved the issue

[crimson wigeon]

omegalul

[ashen spindle]

well what was it

[pale sigil]

i will tell you when i test it

brb

either way, at least Quin knows, ive always said i had issues....

One of the main reasons i didn't rma back then was because i read so many reddit threads about waiting months for a replacement

Idk, it feels a bit smoother... I completely removed my second monitor Vs just disabling it.

Could just be my brain being hopeful

Metro it still feels shit

its just never felt right, hell even my 1070ti felt good, no game has ever felt smooth, none....

Or other weird issues where I need to reboot otherwise games run like shit one after the other

Shit just hasnt felt right basically

But i never ever had issues like this before

Even the first few months of the this build were fine

its unbearable

For the last year and half?

But others have

Others have said one is much worse than the other :/

That's why I'm getting really annoyed.

[ashen spindle]

it's been an issue in older videos he made of it

[pale sigil]

Ye :/

I also showed issues in the past with freezing/stutter

And another issue is I can't exactly send a proper video

Which is not my system

Same settings just different Res and hz

But yes I know

Not exactly the best test

But it's not my hardware regardless

I'm going to go and test my other mates system

He has 144hz

But I tested it on different monitors and the issue still happens when steaming to my deck

Via phone or pc?

[ashen spindle]

also the frames recorded on a phone wont be the same as the screen even if its both 60fps for example so its just super hard to get on film

[pale sigil]

Jesus Christ

Turns out it's difficult to play doom eternal way above your dpi

Lol

Was testing something

Working on it

[pale sigil]

After watching this cutscene 50 times

It's kinda shitty Anna didn't believe her husband

[pale sigil]

tbh

recording at 60fps just does not help

https://mrpl.me/Doom Eternal 2023.01.01 - 19.40.31.04.mp4
https://mrpl.me/Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition 2023.01.01 - 20.12.06.01.mp4
https://mrpl.me/Oregon 2023.01.01 - 20.15.41.04.mp4

Admittingly it does not seem as bad as the other videos i think, though the main difference would be i re wired my PSU etc

you might have to download vs stream @digital cliff

these are raw files

though tbf maybe i should have used graph info for each other game to see if the issue is something else

I mean

thats what i mean

60fps video wont show the issues

though the metro one shows it a litte

[wheat plume]

Opera browser got a funky new feature called Lucid Mode
It tries to upscale video and images in realtime

[pale sigil]

• New PSU
• 3 Different monitors
• Streaming to steam deck
• Updated drivers
• Removed drivers via ddu
• Fresh OS on a different drive
• Tested memory
• Re seated the GPU

Only other thing i can imagine is CPU.... which tbf my 7700k was originally fucked and i had stutter issues, when i rmed it my life was perfect again.

Original theory here was borked PSU.

I think EVGA give me a new one out of just cant be assed dealing with him lol

inb4 all my issues are my custom gpu cables

[reef patrol]

inb4 a four part video from GN and everyone else, milking the clickbait

[frozen ingot]

not like its a case of all clickbait and nothing to see here

[reef patrol]

GN embraces clickbait video titles and thumbnails. And they relish on padding out videos to 8 times what they need.

Doesn't mean the issue isn't real. It was very real with the 12pin connector and that just kept going.

[pale sigil]

Duck

[frozen ingot]

I would argue GN wastes quite little time on just droning on and delivers information for most of the videos duration

[pale sigil]

Can you come to the UK and fix my PC

[frozen ingot]

if the videos are lengthy its usually because there's lots of tests and angles to cover

[pale sigil]

He always has a nice conclusion you can skip to

[reef patrol]

They don't always - And you can spend a minute skipping back and forth just to figure out what the topic is.

[pale sigil]

Nope, mainly a few months after.

And never had these issues with my previous one

[frozen ingot]

its just funny how everyone scolded nvidia over the shitty adapter failures but when it comes to amd its suddenly just clickbait and overblown

[pale sigil]

If you ask Quin he can vouch ive always said something was off.

The condition of everything is 👌

[wheat plume]

you said it a long time

it doesnt make sense ;-;

[pale sigil]

And also all new, only thing not new was the nvme

which is why i tested another drive.

#🎮│game message

[reef patrol]

It was a defective design - You can't blame end users on that.

[pale sigil]

another case

but i remember this started around cold war release

[reef patrol]

The amount of play those connectors had was scary, and anyone buying a pre-built could have ended up with a toasted marshmallow

[pale sigil]

Mansen might also remember me saying CP2077 was not smooth for me, despite other setups being fine andother people

with even a 3070

[reef patrol]

Yes.

If you can't clearly see it, then it isn't an end user problem.

[ashen spindle]

I mean there is also the difference of one being a fire hazard the other causing gpu to clock down

slightly different how severe the result could be, either case should be recalled by manufacturer imo

yeah not a good look after their marketing efforts to (imo justifiably) bashing the 12pin

[reef patrol]

Wake me up when people have a conclusion. cba to follow hardware drama these days.

Too much Anime filler

[ashen spindle]

also likely the % of cases would go up without people looking into it, since the 4080 and 70 also use it and those would sell a lot more if they come down in price

doesnt matter

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah that 8K vapor chamber really good

[ashen spindle]

at least AiB models can fix that, 40 series cards arent allowed to use the 8 pins

[shadow minnow]

Well 16 pin is physically better

[ashen spindle]

yes better to burn

[shadow minnow]

But AiBs should have the choice ngl

It’s dumb they don’t

[shadow minnow]

That was user error, though they could have done better prevention

[ashen spindle]

user error caused by bad physical design, the wiring is sketchy and it provides no benefit since they unlike the 3090ti dont even see it as different lines to load balance anymore

what part of it is physically better

[shadow minnow]

It can carry more current than two 8 pins while being smaller

Or 3 8 pins with worse wires

Which you can’t rely it has better or not

If the pins checking if it’s in place were shorter could fix it

Gamer nexus made a good video on it and so did buldzoid

[ashen spindle]

and now we put it on cards that dont even need more than 2 8 pins, wow such improvement

[shadow minnow]

Well it’s smaller

Issue with 8 pin is different wires can have different thickness

So most would handle it but some not

So you can’t rely on it

While 16 pin has one spec for wire gauge

[ashen spindle]

you realize the 12 pin can also have different thickness?

[shadow minnow]

Does the spec allow for it?

[ashen spindle]

or how the soldering was so bad igor at first thought it was causing the problems lol

[shadow minnow]

Yet it was not

[ashen spindle]

yes but its still really bad lol

[shadow minnow]

And it being very badly plugged was the only thing capable of reproducing errors

[ashen spindle]

or how you cant even bend it at the same places according to spec so its harder to fit it into any not massive case

[shadow minnow]

Well yes but it shouldn’t break if you do. But yes that sucks. But you shouldn’t Ben 8 pin too close either

And it has same lifetime expectancy when it comes to being plugged in and out

[ashen spindle]

bruh why do you chose the weirdest hills to die on

the connector is shit

nobody was hoping to save 2cm of connector space on a massive card

[shadow minnow]

Issue was mostly with watercooled cards

Many cards had much longer PCBs just for the power connectors

Which is not only higher cost

But if you take off the aircooler

The waterblock had to be way longer

[ashen spindle]

why would the waterblock need to be larger

are you cooling the connector as well

[shadow minnow]

Most companies did it for if not to look weird

So there isn’t bare pcb

And also you need larger case due to that

[shadow minnow]

Same manufacturer

[ashen spindle]

then do what evga did on one card and not make it much larger and just put it vertical instead

[shadow minnow]

Yes that’s a way issue is most companies didn’t do that

But well I definitely think AiBs not having a choice is dumb

That said 16 pin is imo superior

Also a thing

[ashen spindle]

also dont really think 2cm of pcb on a high end card cost any relevant ammount

[shadow minnow]

It was often more. But well for me as a person wanting to put on a waterblock I hated how long 30 series cards were usually

[crisp granite]

yeah...that's absurd

although the ITX trend seems to be moving towards getting smaller PCBs, waterblocking, and custom loops

air cooled ITX builds are rare at the high end now, and usually have hefty compromises, especially when you go sub 10L volume

Velka cases come to mind, 2 slots at best, and iirc, the Velka 3 and 5 have absurdly small length specs

175mm length for the 3
and around 275mm for the 5

my Raw S1 feels restrictive as far as GPU choice with it's 3 (ish, can do a little oversized) and 320mm card length

[pale sigil]

Spotify pls

[reef patrol]

Pretty normal tbh

[pale sigil]

not surprised

had it go to 20gb once

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah it's shit and really treats local storage like free real estate

[pale sigil]

not as bad as bdo

which used to write hunrds of files every second

[vagrant pagoda]

I have 1/4 of my sd card set in my phone for music caching, so 128gb

[wheat plume]

Ha-ha, Product activation successful.

[reef patrol]

Piracy

[wheat plume]

Yep xd

And even better,
It pings some random Chinese server to make sure it works

Definitely not dodgy!

[reef patrol]

No that IS the activation

[wheat plume]

Yeh I know

Mechanic keyboard

[final flame]

my favorite LTT moment

[wheat plume]

[empty wren]

Mmm brizsh

[wheat plume]

YouTube: "Any depiction of drug usage or usage of injections in game play footage is prohibited

Soo.....

Can't play any game that makes you stab yourself with a needle to heal up?

Right right... Ok
-.-

[vagrant pagoda]

Can't use insulin?

[ashen spindle]

where does it even say that

in the youtube guidelines it doesnt say that

only parts where the word comes up

[empty wren]

Glue lol

[vagrant pagoda]

Idk if glue is a hard drug

It won't get you high when it's hard

Also no where does that say it applies to games

[ashen spindle]

yup and other google/youtube sites also didnt list it, so its either not a direct quote or outdated or something else

[wheat plume]

He showed it here

https://youtu.be/ZprJgDqxihw

I can't timestamp on phone

It says any game play footage spring usage of needles can be demonitised

[ashen spindle]

if you cant timestamp it say at what time it is

[wheat plume]

One sec

8:30

[ashen spindle]

the video is 8 minutes and 9 seconds long...

[wheat plume]

?

[true quest]

ez 2x playback speed

[ashen spindle]

the video you linked

[wheat plume]

https://youtu.be/klZRsE99ep0

Oh

This link

My bad

[ashen spindle]

ok so you paraphrased it into something that could be but is not the sentence they wrote

[true quest]

it being yt it may as well be

[ashen spindle]

"may not receive receive ad revenue" is not the same as "it is fully prohibited"

honestly sounds like the same as before with just the option to cover more in case something wasnt explicitly mentioned

[wheat plume]

Usually when they say "may not"
It means it will not

Cause of how fucking vague the guidelines can be at times and what shit the almighty algorithm does

[ashen spindle]

ok still feel like all that this could cover is already included in the old ones so this doesnt change anything likely

they could already lay it out like that and ban such content under the current rules

[viscid vector]

I have the G915 keyboard from Logitech.. I don't see anything online or I am just dumb but do any one make cool keycaps for it?

[reef patrol]

Highly doubt it since they not only went low profile but decided to continue ignoring standards and making their own

[reef patrol]

https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/02/nonbinary_ddr5_is_finally_coming
Potential change to how RAM size standards work. Increments of 24 instead.

[crimson wigeon]

So it's woke RAM?

[wheat plume]

I wish more desktops worked like Haiku
You can tab any apps together