🔌│tech

[stark bobcat]

oof

[halcyon moss]

security updates are a must for me

[stark bobcat]

jumped in on pixels at the wrong time

[fair gull]

ye but im getting those even if i dont get android updates

like i just installed one

[tepid violet]

literally xD

everything was going so well until the bugs started 😭

[stark bobcat]

well some manufacturers don't do security updates for that long

especially the chinese ones

[fair gull]

u still got the s10?

[stark bobcat]

btw what happened to samsung licencing RDNA from AMD

did it do anything

[halcyon moss]

wasnt the 22 series the first with that?

[ashen spindle]

yes they now just failed to make it work on their foundry node so the exynos was still shit

clocks only reached like 50% of what was expected or so

but I imagine they will still use it in future versions and probably get that done better

[halcyon moss]

so 23rd might be better!

[fair gull]

eh i wont buy another samsung anyway

[halcyon moss]

im really liking my s21u, even all the samsung extras

[fair gull]

im just missing the side button fingerprint reader and camera button of my sony phones

also no jack

[halcyon moss]

those are nice features to have indeed

and i still miss my jack :/

[ashen spindle]

I just hope one of this years iphones fit what I want because I need to upgrade from my old one

running into storage problems on the 16gb model

and I dont even know why

[stark bobcat]

I hope apple sticks to usb c until the next time I need to upgrade since no one in the android space seems to give a shit about small phones

[halcyon moss]

double tapping the power button for the camera works nicely too though

[fair gull]

its why if my samsung breaks im back to sony

[halcyon moss]

and inscreen fingerprint reader works well enough

[ashen spindle]

I really wish I could see what is using so much storage but all apple tells you about it is that its cache or temp data

[latent mural]

phone talk?

[stark bobcat]

not buying anything sony until demon souls remake is on pc

[latent mural]

I recommend oneplus nord 2 period

all you need

[ashen spindle]

^

[halcyon moss]

oneplus fucked up a long time ago

[stark bobcat]

cringeplus poo 2

I wonder when the next crypto boom will happen

[latent mural]

I mean the oneplus nord family is basically what oneplus was all those years ago

since they started becoming more and more flagship with their main series, they made the nord to kinda bring back that old value

[tepid violet]

yup its sat somewhere in the living room xD

[stark bobcat]

you could still get that repaired

[tepid violet]

deffo thinking of it, but am poor af rn xD

something something keyboards

[stark bobcat]

just buy 1 wooting and keep that

other keyboards are folly

[ashen spindle]

yes buy the entirety of wooting

[tepid violet]

well I just finished building up my first keyboard

[stark bobcat]

and make them make a 75%

[tepid violet]

wooting will be the second and last

[stark bobcat]

60 or 2?

[tepid violet]

60!

[stark bobcat]

it s good 😄

[tepid violet]

I heard so many good things so I kinda had to grab it

[stark bobcat]

I think not only is wootings hardware good the software is also amazing

all other keyboards I had so far had terrible software

[tepid violet]

yeah, I am so hyped for the software

just the fact its a web app alone

[fair gull]

the fact its not required sold me personally

coming from razer it was a god sent

[stark bobcat]

tbh I never used the software on other keyboards much - primarily because it sucked
but since I got the wooting for analogue controls in rocketleague I had to try the software and tbh I don't have many issues with it, also great since it's a 60% and remapping some things was required for me to be able to use it properly

[tepid violet]

Yeah, I had a corsair keyboard, and if I had the software installed, the keyboard would rapidly connect and disconnect

so I just uninstalled the software and never used it again, and that fixed it

[stark bobcat]

the only thing I am sort of missing are macros but I don't need them very often to it's not a problem

[fair gull]

i used ahk even with my razer

only downside was razer used a custom driver to use macro keys

with the wooting i can just read any keys hid code so no issues

[pale sigil]

I don't use one

[stark bobcat]

i see

oof guess I ll have to shell out 60€ for one that I know will work

[pale sigil]

I do not use one

[pale sigil]

Wouldn't spend to much

[stark bobcat]

so much false advertisement going on with powerbanks tho

so- hard

[pale sigil]

As long as it can output 45w

Oh I agree

I do have a powerbank from when I was in uni

26k baby

[fair gull]

paperbank

[pale sigil]

Aukey

https://www.ign.com/articles/best-steam-deck-portable-chargers-power-banks

Elecjet PowerPie P20 I've seen floating around on discord

It purely depends if you're playing super demanding games while charging

Because the deck doesn't always need 45w to play and charge at the same time

[stark bobcat]

I ll be playing need for speed most wanted 2005 so idk if that is that demanding I got about 3 hours out of the deck last time I played it

I just ordered one that advertises 15000 mAh and 45W PD 3.0

lets hope they are not lying otherwise I ll return the thing

one thing I wonder is why the steamdeck built in frame limiter is so ass in terms of input lag

like in windows rivatuner doesn't do that

why valve

[crimson wigeon]

Probably the vsync..?

[stark bobcat]

rivatuner has a frame limiter that doesn't noticeably increase input lag

why can't valve manage that

[crimson wigeon]

Is that with vsync enabled or disabled?

[stark bobcat]

disabled

[crimson wigeon]

Then yeah of course the deck limiter is gonna have slightly more latency since it enforces vsync, for now

[stark bobcat]

slightly ..... capping frames at 60 on the deck is almost impossible to play for me in games that rely on fast reactions

[pale sigil]

Steam decks frame limiter is rivatuner or well equivalent ported

Huh

I don't notice input lag

[stark bobcat]

like using rocket league on the deck capping frames to 60 in game vs in the steamdeck ui is a massive differnce

Uncapped 31.8ms
60 FPS cap 75.8ms

like

I just don't cap games which is fine but I wish I could for the sake of battery life

[crimson wigeon]

Apparently there was also a lot of focus put into making it have proper frame pacing which probably increases latency as well

[wheat plume]

such a clean Deck setup <3

[halcyon moss]

why

[crimson wigeon]

y not

[wheat plume]

He had spare keyboard, mouse and monitor

why not

[pale sigil]

I have all of that too xd

Don't mean I would

Hehehe

[halcyon moss]

me too, found it meh, its a gaming device

[pale sigil]

SteamOS desktop is poo

[wheat plume]

why?cause its immutable?

[halcyon moss]

ive not found a usecase for it.

[wheat plume]

I dont have the desk space for it ;-

[stark bobcat]

desktop is fine but not designed for productivity works fine for installing non steam games

[wheat plume]

if I could use my monitor mount, to make the two screen hover then maybe

[halcyon moss]

it also has too little memory for serious dev work

[wheat plume]

16GB of DDR5

[halcyon moss]

yeah far too little

[ashen spindle]

and its not ddr5

[halcyon moss]

project im working on sometimes consumes 30GB

[stark bobcat]

yeah it s LPDDR5

[halcyon moss]

using 20GB now.

[wheat plume]

o

[halcyon moss]

mongo, so much fun

[crimson wigeon]

webscale means webscale resource usage

[halcyon moss]

heh

[pale sigil]

Oh I want to use it as a desktop

But

Steamos poo

Gonna wait till duel boot

[stark bobcat]

yeah dualboot when valve

[halcyon moss]

what more do you need for regular usage than a webbrowser

[shadow minnow]

Lot of things

[crimson wigeon]

Eh if I ever desire to run something more advanced I'll probably just set up a chroot or similar

[halcyon moss]

yeah but what?

[wheat plume]

The only reason you think it's poo is cause it's immutable

xd

[stark bobcat]

also I wish steamdeck had discord and spotify in the background while in gamemode

[wheat plume]

and yes, fair enough

it can

[stark bobcat]

that would be so good

[crimson wigeon]

Just add them as non-steam games

[wheat plume]

you can run 2 apps at once in game mode

switch between them in the Steam menu

[stark bobcat]

I mean like spotify and discord integrated in the ... menu

[crimson wigeon]

Never

[wheat plume]

yeh, add them as non-Steam games, get some of the artwork for them on the website I forgot the name of rn

[crimson wigeon]

Valve would rather you use the Steam music player and Steamcord!

[wheat plume]

Steamcord xd

LOL imagine

[crimson wigeon]

Wait the music player doesn't even exist on the deckui

Or does it..

[wheat plume]

yeh it does xd

there is a media section

[stark bobcat]

which fcking music player

[crimson wigeon]

Steam has a built in player, a not so well known secret

[wheat plume]

^

[shadow minnow]

Well for web browser phone is enough why use desktop for that

[stark bobcat]

yeah but u need to add your own music I assume so it's cringe

[wheat plume]

https://venturebeat.com/games/steam-deck-supports-discord-and-music-apps-in-the-background/

[crimson wigeon]

Yeah Volvo pls

[stark bobcat]

I am not gonna buy this many songs

[crimson wigeon]

At least add MPRIS2 to the ... menu, maybe also integrate it with native notifications (unless it does that already..)

pls VOLVO

[halcyon moss]

as a volvo owner, this triggers me :p

[shadow minnow]

Does steam deck support Apple Music though?

[wheat plume]

LOL

[crimson wigeon]

If it runs in a web browser absolutely, if it doesn't then maybe

[wheat plume]

if its on the flathub repo or you can use the website in a chrome tab

[halcyon moss]

why chrome, it comes with firefox by default! :p

[wheat plume]

yeah

then use that

[crimson wigeon]

Not anymore

[wheat plume]

they swapped over to letting you install firefox via flathub instead

due to faster updates

[halcyon moss]

hm

i havent launched a webbrowser in a while on the deck i must say..

phone is usually faster to get to, and more convenient

[stark bobcat]

and also faster to type on

typing on deck kinda sucks even tho I am on the desktop relatively frequently when I use it

[halcyon moss]

its not great indeed

[shadow minnow]

True

[crimson wigeon]

The OSK is crap, lacks many keys I desire and it also always shows up in front of the input box

[halcyon moss]

touchpads typing works okay

[shadow minnow]

For me even normal desktop kbs are as fast for typing as phone

[halcyon moss]

i had an intern once.. 18yo or something, slow as fuck typing on a normal keyboard, but quite fast on a phone keyboard

[crimson wigeon]

Oh no...

[halcyon moss]

a programmer intern

[stark bobcat]

I mean that is fine

[halcyon moss]

also had to teach him how to program

[shadow minnow]

I type like 50-60wpm on both phone and pc kb

[stark bobcat]

just type everything on a phone

[crimson wigeon]

Shoulda just made them write code on the phone then

[stark bobcat]

that is not very fast

[shadow minnow]

Well it is kinda fast for phone but slow for desktop

[umbral knot]

I can hardy type 30wpm on phone

but like 100 on keeb

[vocal cipher]

I think 60wpm is alright for coding

[halcyon moss]

when coding you're not doing a lot of typing tbh

[fair gull]

coding is measured in cp/s

[ashen spindle]

yeah unless you manually type out html boilerplates you dont really type tons of things without break

[fair gull]

if id interview someone for coding id have them search smth difficult on the web and copy paste the right solution

[crimson wigeon]

and with copilot you don't even have to type much to begin with

[vocal cipher]

our company removed ssms boost and sql prompt for example

it was the worst thing they did if you ask me

all those scripts that I use for daily bugs, now I had to copy paste them from somewhere or just type them instead of using two letters for a shortcut

even if I would type 150wpm it wouldn't be even as close to as how you use shortcuts

I do 80 - 90 on monkeytype but yeah, that data is useless if you ask me

unless you work in a court or sth

[ashen spindle]

I mean I type a bit slower but I'd rather be 5wpm if that would make my brain solve things faster so I know what to type instantly lol

[halcyon moss]

apparently i am bout 60wpm

[tepid violet]

monkey keys put me at 90wpm which is odd cause I thought I can't type for shit

[vocal cipher]

make it 1 minute for more accurate result

but yeah, typing.works is harder and I get 70+ there

[tepid violet]

thats probably a good idea

I'm just struggling rn cause I went from iso to ansi and keep on missing the enter key in normal use xD

[halcyon moss]

typiong nonsense text also sucks

[ashen spindle]

I hit 69 (nice) and I dont even do proper 10 finger typing since I just learned some cursed muscle memory driven 1-5 finger system lmfao

[vocal cipher]

it's for fun

when I change sth on the keyboard, I do it at least ten times 😄

[stark bobcat]

Why did you forsake the one true best keyboard layout

[fair gull]

proper typing speed is usually determined over a good 30min duration

[tepid violet]

uhhhhh didn't feel like soldering swiches ngl, and they keyboard I liked didn't have iso hotswap 😦

[fair gull]

at least for world champions its 30mins or an hr

[tepid violet]

dw I got the 60he in iso

jesus the finger stamina on those people

[vocal cipher]

I think, max I would go is sth like 5 minutes, afterwards I would be bored to death

[fair gull]

well they compete for fast accurate typing anyway

so ur errors/corrections get taken into account

[thick elk]

Holly shit Microsoft Teams is garbage.
On my father's laptop, it completely refuses to detect audio devices, greying out devices in the settings and only showing custom setup.
Workaround was to just use it in chrome and it just works.

You'd expect a Microsoft application to at leat be able to deal with the windows sound settings but no.

[crimson wigeon]

Yes

[vocal cipher]

even though it's microsoft, you still need to authorize it to be able to use cam and mic...

that might be the case here, you can check it in the system settings

[fair gull]

did u give teams access to that in the settings?

[thick elk]

It's some restricted company account and it worked before, so unless it got messed up there it should be fine

also wouldn't teams prompt to ask for permission / warn it lacks the required permissions

Also that would apply to the microphone / webcam and not audio output

webcam works fine, audio output / input does not.

[vocal cipher]

I hate Microsoft Teams, but still, I am using it on both Windows and MacOS and never had that problem

on windows it's even better as I can just mute the teams, not the other programs or I can just assign different output input to teams and etc

[thick elk]

I remember having to use it at work once for a client and having trouble then.

For work we just use discord, which used to be fine, but now it keeps asking for phone verification, which can be akward when we ask people to create a separate discord for work stuff.

[vocal cipher]

google meet?

the voice quality is usually better on google meet

[thick elk]

Well yea, that works for just voice / video calls but we use it mostly for chat as well.

Actually we do often use google meet out of an old habit for video calls

[fair gull]

i use a pigeon to send still images to meetings

[cursive summit]

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/too-many-employees-but-few-work-pichai-zuckerberg-sound-the-alarm-122080801425_1.html

[empty wren]

Yeah tons of lazy people in America what a suprise

[wheat plume]

This is why the August security patch is not available on Pixels yet, isnt it?

[cursive summit]

See I do like r/antiwork

Where business owners get fucked for belittling and taking advantage of minimal wage and disrespecting employee benefits

But google, meta employees?

Those people have an office job, probably great office environment, good salary

I don't see why a google employee would just not do his job

[empty wren]

Ask Google why they said in the coming weeks

[cursive summit]

Lemme guess

Ye bought a Pixel

[empty wren]

Again there is a ton of lazy people

Does not matter where you go you will find them

[ashen spindle]

not doing the job in thier eyes could also just mean the workers dont do overtime and try a healthier live and they aren't managing for projects to not do overtime

not that they are actually not doing anything

[wheat plume]

no

but I have a Pixel based ROM installed

[cursive summit]

Businesses would love a 7 days per week overtime shifts

[wheat plume]

and it gets patches when Pixels do

[cursive summit]

Thank god Lana

And don't

[stark bobcat]

you'd think if these employees wouldn't do the work they are allotted they'd be fired

[wheat plume]

^

[stark bobcat]

maybe they are exactly as valuable as they think they are

[cursive summit]

If I were to guess it goes down like this

So we need you on Saturday..
Nah
Why don't you work??

[empty wren]

There is a supposed shortage of programmers

[stark bobcat]

they know their value.

[stark bobcat]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7000-ddr5-memory-sweet-spot-is-6000-mt-s-infinity-fabric-frequency-up-to-3-ghz

looking good sadly I will not buy it

[cursive summit]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-encryption-standard-discovered-to-damage-data-fix-affects-CPU-performance.639858.0.html

Win11 is just sad

[astral haven]

This person said the sweet spot for Ryzen 5000 would be 4000
And that is very much not true

[stark bobcat]

oof lol

[ashen spindle]

yeah for all the time yuri spends on it he spouts a lot of things that arent true

[cursive summit]

Sweet spot is an imaginary term and you should buy RAM that is affordable and of good quality

[stark bobcat]

ddr5 like ddr4 will become affordable even at good speeds

[astral haven]

Not for Ryzen
If you go to slow it significantly slows down your CPU
If you go too fast it significantly slows down your cpu

[cursive summit]

Now let's find out if the new generation of Ryzen also works the same way

Announcement any day now

[astral haven]

It's already confirmed to be that way forever pretty much

[cursive summit]

Unlikely with Zen 5

[astral haven]

At least until they get off zen

[cursive summit]

Complete architectural rebuild

[astral haven]

Nope

They are only rebuilding the parts

Theseus' ship is still a boat and all that

[stark bobcat]

they have IF too so chances are they will

[cursive summit]

Zen 5 should have that really cool chip that I think Xilinx designed

Something about programmable CPU architecture that can be updated via patches

[astral haven]

The programmable accelerators are attached to the cores

[cursive summit]

I think it was this I read

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-patent-shows-CPU-FPGA-integration

[astral haven]

The cores are attached together via ring
And the rings are attached to the cache and iodie via infinity fabric

The programmable accelerators are not related to high level architecture

Infinity fabric is here to stay
As long as it's Zen, it's got infinity fabric

[ashen spindle]

especially as long as they use chiplets all the way down the stack

[astral haven]

I don't think they will ever go chiplet on the most mobile of mobile

[ashen spindle]

oh yeah I was mostly thinking of desktop

[astral haven]

As long as they don't go chiplet on the bottom they probably will still have some small monoliths available on desktop

[ashen spindle]

not on any level where maxed out IF clock would matter I wager

[astral haven]

Tru
But highest if clock and ram oc has still been on monoliths without exception yet

[true lark]

Is it true I can up the power that goes through the usb port that my keyboard uses so I can use a coiled cable?

[reef patrol]

On some keyboards, yes. In theory at least.

[astral haven]

You shouldn't need to

[reef patrol]

You also shouldn't use coiled cables but here we are 😄

[true lark]

The keyboard with all features works fine, I just can't use the rgb though. If i do the keyboard starts to activate itself

[astral haven]

Unless the cable is very very long or getting noticeably warm it won't be a power problem

[astral haven]

If the cable is very low gauge it could be causing the voltage to drop too low?

[true lark]

Its a coiled cable so its very long

[astral haven]

Over 15 feet?

[deft marlin]

This talk about chiplet vs monolithic does have me thinking, would chiplet CPU and monolith GPU = instant bottleneck provided it’s a low to mid range chip?

[astral haven]

What

[deft marlin]

Actually nvm I’m stupid

CPUs themselves are “chiplet” ☠️

everything is packed together

[astral haven]

Uhhh

[deft marlin]

Ik it’s a GPU concept

[astral haven]

Time for some sleep fam

[deft marlin]

I think so yes

My brains drunk

Just splashed some water on it, I’m fine now

[astral haven]

GPUs are monoliths because the energy loss from splitting up the GPU would push the GPUs past what is possible to cool
Eventually we will go back to chiplet GPUs like back in the early 3d days
But for now all that will get split up off from the main die is the memory controllers and then the GPU will be cut in half
It'll still be a monolith, there will just be two of them working together
Glue and all that

Nvidia was preparing for that with hopper but just didn't follow through with it

It looks like amd is actually gonna do it with rx 7000

[deft marlin]

Like the saying, old is gold

And I have no idea what Hopper is since I only entered tech space 2 years ago

[astral haven]

H100
Released this year I'm pretty sure

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/h100-pcie.c3899

Yep back in march

Even the a100 before that was split in half

[deft marlin]

Now hold up wait a minute

80GB HBM2?

[astral haven]

Here's the h100

[astral haven]

It actually has 96 but the last stack is always disabled for yield

[deft marlin]

I is stupid, what yield

Tbf these workstation class GPUs look like they could be a CPU themselves

[astral haven]

It's hard to make chips
Some parts of the chip fail
That's yield

[astral haven]

GPUs are aloooooooot bigger than cpus

They really are just thousands of bad CPUs on the same chip really

[deft marlin]

CPU - Issac Newton

GPU - Fibonacci sequence

mathematical calculations ability compared

[astral haven]

Uh

[deft marlin]

GPU is just adding everything together, all the graphical elements

pieced into one displayed image or video (where they’re ever-changing)

CPU I used bathos, it’s just capable of BEDMAS

I don’t think they can do literal calculus (or at least when processing stuff normally, saw Flammable Maths code calculus equations)

[astral haven]

That's really not right

GPUs can run any code it just takes a while

But because they have 1000-10000 cores they can run a lot of math at the same time

A CPU can run each math problem 5x as fast per core or potentially up to 12x faster
But a CPU only has a few cores generally up to 16 with a max of like 128
The weakest of modern GPUs have 1000 cores

[deft marlin]

But can multiple cores work on one solution?

like RAID storage

Stupid question I take that back

[astral haven]

Depends on the problem you are working on

[deft marlin]

How else are they a single unit lmao

[astral haven]

No I mean that's literally the question at the foundation of creating GPUs

And CPUs still exist simply because the answer is it depends instead of just yes

[deft marlin]

I mean it does have to keep track of multiple things like background processes, makes sense

[astral haven]

GPUs keep track of a couple million pixels while rendering them lel

[cursive summit]

https://twitter.com/greymon55/status/1557318663413194752

Greymon55 (@greymon55)

I heard the price of the 5800X3D will be reduced next month.I think the ZEN4 gaming perf will be amazing.

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Twitter · Aug 10, 2022, 10:51 AM

The price cut should be a no brainer

If 7800X3D slides into the same price range that h5800X3D had

[latent mural]

my 5800x (no 3d) just arrived

[cursive summit]

Disappointing

Peasantry

Pay for the extra cache

[latent mural]

I would if I needed to

but rx 6700xt is never gonna be cpu bottlenecked by regular 5800x

[halcyon moss]

... never...?

[cursive summit]

I mean, that is a lower end card

But CPUs are currently main bottlenecks in gaming

[halcyon moss]

they can be

it really depends on the game

[ashen spindle]

and resolution

[cursive summit]

Lol what

https://www.gsmarena.com/here_is_the_samsung_galaxy_z_fold4_and_z_flip4_pricing-news-55371.php

€1,799 for cheapest Fold??

Current one costs 1,150.00 € here

How does that phone warrant such a massive price hike

[halcyon moss]

introduction price is the same as the fold 3

[latent mural]

ye I'm mostly gonna be playing comp games with low settings at 1080p so cpu is gonna be the bottleneck

but 5800x should be able to output consistent 280 fps which is my monitor rate

[ashen spindle]

[latent mural]

ummm

I mean...

for the gpu it's good for gpu bottlebecked games

but even a 5800x3d would be bottleneck with a high end gpu

it's always cpu anyway

ok I figured out a better way to word that: cpu is gonna be good enough for my needs

[vocal cipher]

I have 3700x and 3080, apex legends is ok for constant 240-280 with very low settings

[ashen spindle]

looks like sep 20 might be an announcement for workstation gpus if they dont do that at gamescom as well https://www.nvidia.com/gtc/session-catalog

[cursive summit]

"Workstation GPUs"

So, 4090Ti

[fair gull]

i thought they had a quadro rtx line

[deft marlin]

One day you won't even need a station to work at

[cursive summit]

Quadro's dead

Long live A series

[ashen spindle]

no it would be more like Volta, or like amd is doing with CDNA

splitting up the archs since they might be different enough to warrant being their own line

or like Hopper, idk why I blanked out that they already showed hopper earlier this year

[cursive summit]

They showed Hopper?

[wheat plume]

🤔

so....they use the money you dont spend to get Windows to give you an SSD instead? :D nice!

[fair gull]

thats not what that means but sure

[wheat plume]

whats it mean?

[fair gull]

it means it comes with ubuntu and u get a free ssd

[wheat plume]

I wonder if / what the gift is if you pick Windows now xd

[fair gull]

depends on the oem pricing

hp sells laptops with either nos, freedos, ubuntu or windows preinstalled

for example

and other oems usually do the same offering their laptops with some os choice before it arrives in a store

u see pricing it like a windows version of the device and saying u get a free ssd would be some really evil marketing

because the ssd wouldnt be free

[wheat plume]

im just still happy I saved 100 on my laptop by choosing not to have an OS preinstalled

Yet it came with un-activated windows installed, I assume for them to test the laptop with

[fair gull]

correct

also cause people are dumb and dont install drivers from the manufacturer and then complain about smth not working

[wheat plume]

I did immediately install Linux on it, LOL

I did install Windows back on it one day, cause I had to test a thing
And the touchpad didnt want to work, or the SD card slot

Had to ask the customer support to send me drivers for them, using my mouse from my computer until then for the install process

[fair gull]

how can people not find drivers themselves

truly baffles me

[wheat plume]

the drivers were made by them .-.

so I had to ask customer support to send me them cause they dont have a downloads page

[fair gull]

i highly doubt that but sure lets go with it

[wheat plume]

ok, go find the PC Specialist touchpad and SD card slot drivers for me

[misty saffron]

but it’s your laptop not tony’s

[wheat plume]

yeh, I wanna see if he can find them witout needing to contact support xd

since he claims I could have done that

[misty saffron]

@fair gull i think lana’s baiting you into finding the download link

don’t go with it

[fair gull]

i wont

she can ask windows update herself and she can also google the hardware id herself

[wheat plume]

I literally did that shit

[fair gull]

not like pc specialist made the drivers

[wheat plume]

and looked online

[fair gull]

unless they produced their own card reader and touchpad

the touchpad is most likely elan or synaptic cause no one else makes touchpads

[reef patrol]

You'd be surprised how many times I've had to give up looking for obscure laptop or OEM desktop drivers for XP/7 PCs.

[fair gull]

and the sdcard reader is whatever garbage default reader

[wheat plume]

no

it didnt work either

[reef patrol]

Driverbooster to the rescue, and then malwarescan afterwards to remove all the shit it gets in 😄

[wheat plume]

rip LOL

Maybe 11 does, 10 didnt have the drivers

[fair gull]

ya so u click optional downloads on windows update

[wheat plume]

havent used 11 on this laptop

[misty saffron]

yes i agree

[ashen spindle]

yeah if its not there then as tony said windows updates optional features should have it

[wheat plume]

there wasnt any at that time

[fair gull]

and even if thats not the case

[wheat plume]

it didnt detect the touchpad in device manager

[fair gull]

u can akways google the hardware id

[wheat plume]

how tf do I find the hardware ID?

[fair gull]

u right click the device in device manager

[wheat plume]

I SAID IT ALREADY, IT DIDNT SHOW UP IN DEVICE MANAGER

[fair gull]

and it has to detect it otherwise it wouldnt be connected

[wheat plume]

cant find the hardware ID if it wont fucking show up anywhere within the OS

[fair gull]

now u might not have checked the default ps2 mouse installed

and yes laptop keyboards and mice usually show up as ps2

[wheat plume]

there is a chance its connected internally via ps2?????!!!

[fair gull]

a chance lol

[wheat plume]

O.o

[fair gull]

most laptops show up that way

[wheat plume]

hhhhmmmmm

[fair gull]

also why not

[wheat plume]

I assume drivers that work on win 10 would work on win 11?

[fair gull]

doesnt make a difference for laptops

not necessarily

[fair gull]

id personally recommend 3dpchip

[halcyon moss]

what laptop brand was that so i can avoid them?

[fair gull]

pc specialist

its just a rebranded chinese oem thing most likely

[wheat plume]

I found out I do not need to contact support, you still need to login to your account on the website though to get your downloads page

so, its a lot better but still meh

[halcyon moss]

yeah which brand? :p

[wheat plume]

pc specialist

[halcyon moss]

ooh, thats a brand

[wheat plume]

the laptop is pretty damn good though
Other than touchpad being janky but that happens very little

and its so light and thin

forget its in my backpack sometimes cause I can barly feel it

[fair gull]

like i said rebranded chinese oem

happens quiet often actually

[halcyon moss]

the name "pc specialist" did not register as a name for me at first, just a type of shop :p

[junior ore]

@halcyon moss its a heavily proprietary gaming computer company that is fixated on loans and such

[fair gull]

i had the same drak but for me it was years ago

until i saw other brands

curiously with very similar design

so similar that only the sticker at the bottom and logo at the top were different

[junior ore]

Its terrible that you ha e to have a log in to get drivers 👌

[fair gull]

theres smth worse than all of this tho

oem pc bios/uefi

because u cant flash the original bios from asus/msi/whatever onto them

has to be signed by the same oem

so if they dont update it

ure fucked

[crimson wigeon]

Not really, just buy a new computor

[fair gull]

well there is a way to fix it

either ure lucky and ur mobo has a bios flash header

or u have to desolder the bios chip and flash it

[halcyon moss]

ugh...

[fair gull]

ive had quiet a few of those

they all didnt run win10

cause the bios didnt have some update

[halcyon moss]

ugh.. getting loans to get a computer :/

[wheat plume]

Ofc you can pay in full

Xd

But they offer monthly payments

[fair gull]

they offer paying more than full in monthly payments

[stark bobcat]

https://game.intel.com/story/intel-arc-graphics-a750-benchmarks-dx12-vulkan/

1% lows where

[ashen spindle]

ehh its pretty normal to only show average fps, all vendors do that

[stark bobcat]

yeah it's normal but a380 benchmarks from some outlets have shown 1% lows to be terrible

with nvidia and amd I don't really worry about that so much

[fair gull]

why are we still expecting intel drivers and perf to be onpar with years and years of development on nvidia/amd side

[stark bobcat]

I am not

[ashen spindle]

ya the important part is avg fps since hardware does that and drivers are the part that smoothes it for most parts

[shadow minnow]

^

[fair gull]

like drivers can fuck avg fps but id assume intel wouldnt fuck it up that bad

[stark bobcat]

we will see if this project even continues to get driver support

[junior ore]

Aye, I agree the important part is the averages.

Intels got a nig budget and a big team. Its not impossible they can bring in something fresh. But best to remain skeptical.

[stark bobcat]

I am sceptical they won't do a google

[fair gull]

ngl idk what doing a google is

[stark bobcat]

killing a product after releasing it

[shadow minnow]

Killing projects

[fair gull]

build a websearch engine inside a lego rack and become a multi billion dollar company?

oh the killing part

[stark bobcat]

https://killedbygoogle.com/

[final flame]

this was a legitimately cool idea

[cursive summit]

Rip Stadia

[frozen ingot]

good riddance

[cursive summit]

The biggest rip is all the people that bought Stadia hardware bundles

[final flame]

yea stadia was setup for failure

[cursive summit]

Literally dead hardware they paid a small fortune for

[stark bobcat]

whoever bought into stadia was not very smart to begin with

"a fool and his money are soon parted"

"negative latency"

[final flame]

geforce now is superior in almost every way compared to stadia

[cursive summit]

Question is why Stadia is failing

Yet GNow is not bad

Stadia was really affordable

[final flame]

because you can buy games that stay with your steam

[cursive summit]

Just lack of games or what

[final flame]

stadia you had to buy all the games you like playing again for stadia

[stark bobcat]

and you also couldn't be sure google wouldn't just kill the service

and suprise

they did

[final flame]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=why+did+stadia+die

google shouldve asked google

[stark bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVTsj66g9bA

Google promised "negative latency" with the controller.

like

[final flame]

[stark bobcat]

if I see a company say something like that

I will be immediately be sceptical

[final flame]

clearly they can defy physics smh

[cursive summit]

Is negative latency the phenomena when the hardware is so shit that it's no longer about how much the machine takes time to respond, but you trying to figure out how to even use the hardware?

[stark bobcat]

I mean the stadia thing was nice for amd stock but anyone who knows google would have known to be cautious in the very least

[cursive summit]

Right if I remember correctly, Stadia was using Vega 64 or something like that

[final flame]

it was only viable for people who didn't already own hardware or games at all

[stark bobcat]

yep it used vega gpus

[cursive summit]

Not a great GPU but that's what they had at the time

[stark bobcat]

at the time I wanted to buy amd stock so badly would have been a pretty good decision

[cursive summit]

I will forever hate myself for not getting 2.500$ paycheck back in 2017 and not investing into AMD

Would have been a 20x or something like that

[stark bobcat]

if I had any faith in intel to stay in the gpu space i might buy their stock but alas

I do not

[cursive summit]

Intel's heavily investing into fab space

They got the CHIP act supporting them so new foundries in America

And I heard they are building one or two in Europe

One's in Italy

[junior ore]

3 years isn't just after release >.>

[cursive summit]

Intel could be a decent investment for the future

They won't fall off at all, still a prospective company

But their mid-term prospects are... eh?

[stark bobcat]

intel imo is undervalued but it'll have to drop a bit more for me to buy

[cursive summit]

Long term yeah they are building for fortune

All of those fabs they are planning to launch in like 2027

[junior ore]

Also every company has tons of projects that die off

Or don't go anywhere

Google is just so super large irs just gomna have a larger percentage. So i don't see anything special

[stark bobcat]

I think it's an issue with google company culture

I don't think any other company has so many products they just kill

[astral haven]

First of all valve
But second of all, a complete and utter failure for Google is a product used by only a few million people
They are on just a crazy scale that is hard to comprehend

[stark bobcat]

uh no not valve

not even close

[astral haven]

Valve has canceled about 30 completed games
And about 15 wip ones
In the time that they released 2

[cursive summit]

That is true

But Valve is more of a think tank than a real company

[astral haven]

That's verifiably not true

[cursive summit]

So honestly Valve cancelling projects doesn't count

[astral haven]

Google is more of a think tank than valve...

[crimson wigeon]

The difference is that we don't even know most of the things Valve cancels, whereas Google releases them and then kills them

Although... Artifact.. Underlords, both abandoned... not looking so good lately!

[cursive summit]

Valve's too fragmented

[astral haven]

Lol

[cursive summit]

Although lately at least they seem to have stepped up with management

So they are prioritizing certain projects

Which is why like half the company is on hardware

[crimson wigeon]

Steam is also kinda crap, full of abandoned half broken features, and issues that will never be fixed

[astral haven]

You only say that because it's externally visible
Most companies are significantly more fragmented
Especially Google
I would argue that Google is the most obviously externally visible fragmented company

[ashen spindle]

most recent annoyance I had with steam is that they apparently use gpu acceleration to draw friendslist and such...

[astral haven]

Everything is GPU accelerated now

[ashen spindle]

well if I have discord on my second screen it doesnt drop my game fps, if I have the friendslist there it does drop quite a bit

and quite a bit, 140 to 110 in this area and its very noticeable

[crimson wigeon]

It's just basic 2D stuff how can it not run at a billion FPS (and thus not reduce framerates in anything actually intense)

[stark bobcat]

did I say projects or products

hint

there is a differnce

google cancels things customers are using

the only things like that I am aware of is steam machines which still work perfectly fine as pcs and the steam controller

[astral haven]

Relative to the size of Google's customer base, the percentage of people using them rounds to zero

[stark bobcat]

?????????? I don't see how that matters at all

[astral haven]

I'm aware, that's why I'm trying to explain

[stark bobcat]

so it is okay that they will cancel a service like stadia that people invested money into

[astral haven]

So valves process goes dev, internal testing, "external testing" by the family of the devs

[stark bobcat]

leaves customers not wating to get in early on google products

[stark bobcat]

and yet valve is nothing like google in this aspect

[astral haven]

Google's process goes dev, internal testing, external testing with a limited number of users

The problem is people are paying money for it

That's the only difference

[stark bobcat]

no?

the difference is customers are using and maybe even relying on something

[astral haven]

🤷‍♂️

[stark bobcat]

imagine this: people don't trust your services you release to stick around then - you release something that might be a great idea in theory - a game streaming service. People do not trust you not to kill it so they do not engage with your product.

[astral haven]

If it is a good enough idea for Google to pursue it, hundreds of millions of people will use it

[stark bobcat]

lol

if numbers were that high they'd release statistics on that

[astral haven]

No?
That's not high for Google lmao

[stark bobcat]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1489762460408111104

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

Google Stadia also had around 750,000 monthly active users in 2020, according to the @BusinessInsider report. Google reportedly missed a target of 1 million monthly active users https://t.co/najlnnArLT

Twitter · Feb 5, 2022, 12:47 AM

k dude

[astral haven]

Thank you for proving my point

[shadow minnow]

What?

[stark bobcat]

"hundreds of millions"

750k

[cursive summit]

750k is a solid amount

[stark bobcat]

alright

[frozen ingot]

what is even the argument here

[cursive summit]

Idiots arguing, what's more to it

[astral haven]

The argument is
Me: Google will cancel projects if there aren't many people using it from Google's pov
Artorias: look at stadia it has lots of users
Stadia : peaked at 750k

[stark bobcat]

??????????????

you pull numbers out of your ass

and then you say

[astral haven]

That is nothing for Google
Their flagship product is used more times daily than there are people on the planet

[stark bobcat]

"thanks for proving my point"

jesus

[astral haven]

Yes
Google has canned most projects as soon as they haven't grown for a year or have less than a hundred million users

[stark bobcat]

I am done arguing with you

[astral haven]

Happy to help

[stark bobcat]

time for better discord

[junior ore]

Once again : size of the company is going to dictate the amount of projects that open/close

Its not rocket science

Small company close small amount of projects

Big company close big amount of projects

Google big

Google killing big amount of projects is no wow factor

[astral haven]

And what Google considers a failure would be a huge success for a smaller company...

[junior ore]

Aye. But. Different company culture

Different infrastructure

Different standards

[astral haven]

👆

[pale sigil]

"Nvidia CFO Colette Kress pointed out on the company's fiscal 2022 third-quarter earnings conference call that its cloud gaming service, GeForce NOW, has more than doubled its membership in the past year to over 14 million subscribers. It is worth noting that GeForce NOW had nearly 10 million subscribers in March this year, and that number had increased to 12 million by the end of September."

[cursive summit]

Huh

Is NOW that good?

[pale sigil]

its always been good

it also has upscaling which is neat

[crimson wigeon]

Yes it's probably the finest videogame streaming thingamajig

[pale sigil]

it sucks for anything past 60hz tho

[astral haven]

Did they make it worse?
Back in the beta it was great at 120

[astral haven]

@cursive summit by Google's standards it's probably not time to can it yet stince it's still growing

[vocal cipher]

I was having memory problems and blue screens on my PC after updating BIOS, now I noticed it's CSM enabled in the BIOS and I made it UEFI. I know that UEFI is needed for Win11 installation, but it didn't allow to install if CSM was enabled... So my question is, is it possible that the memory problems and all the other mambo jambo are caused by CSM?

[fair gull]

not really

[vocal cipher]

I thought so

I don't wanna buy a new ram

I disabled XMP profiles too but didn't work

Right now pc works without bluescreens or stupid stuff happening but memory diagnostic still finds problems

¨Hardware problems were detected. To identify and repair these problems, you will need to contact the computer manufacturer¨

ok one last piece of data for anyone who might know more and be able to help maybe, it started with this and afterward got other errors.

[pale sigil]

Aye, after beta it was capped

[astral haven]

Ew

[pale sigil]

Sigh, when I move room I may end up having to move to gigabit powerline adapters or worst case WiFi

[astral haven]

Wifi 6e is pretty goated...

[cursive summit]

All of these cool connectivity technologies maturing and getting better

Yet Bluetooth..

Bluetooth remains bluetooth

[shrewd thicket]

you must be living under a rock

there's lots of advancements going on in the bluetooth space

[cursive summit]

Ring me when any of them actually make a difference

Yes I am very well aware of "lossless" aptX

[shrewd thicket]

except latency will always be worse than a cable, wifi killed my online gaming.

BT LE is pretty cool..

LE audio

[mild dome]

Did you run a memory test, memory might be dying

[cursive summit]

BT is still very inefficient

It's just not a good technology yet

Maybe in another decade

[shrewd thicket]

Bluetooth is great i dunno what ur talking about

[cursive summit]

How is Bluetooth "great"

[shrewd thicket]

its a pretty good technology to pair a ton of different devices wirelessly

it supports headphones, mics, mice, keyboards, controllers and a bunch of other shit i can't even think of

[deft marlin]

But not for gaming where you need low latency

[shrewd thicket]

its really versatile

[shrewd thicket]

bluetooth was never intended for gaming lol

[cursive summit]

You don't need BT to have a wireless connection

[deft marlin]

Tell me what PS controllers run on

[cursive summit]

And as far as connections go BT is slow af

[deft marlin]

Receiver wireless

as it is with most wireless gaming peripherals

[shrewd thicket]

PS controllers connect to PC via bluetooth but they use a different way to connect to your playstation lol

bluetooth is just a backup and it coincidentally works on your PC

[deft marlin]

Bluetooth isn’t that power efficient which is what I understand

[cursive summit]

BLUETOOTH ON PC

[shrewd thicket]

thats why bluetooth LE is in the make now...

[cursive summit]

The most broken, inefficient shit on Windows

[shrewd thicket]

actually already exists and is getting adopted

[astral haven]

That's actually not true

[deft marlin]

Had to live with that when I got my first pair of wireless headphones from “Santa”

[deft marlin]

Not quite true

[shrewd thicket]

wireless will always be slower than a fiber cable

[cursive summit]

Not true actually

[astral haven]

Also no

[deft marlin]

Nope

We’re just not that far ahead in the future yet

[shrewd thicket]

there's definitely more resistance in air

[deft marlin]

where it’s faster

[astral haven]

Nope

[cursive summit]

I dunno how but my mouse just feels better wireless than wired

[deft marlin]

Well internet is never truly wireless

[shrewd thicket]

lets not forget most people dont sit in the same room as their router

[deft marlin]

For one, routers are wired

[astral haven]

Speed of light through air is faster than either copper or fiber

[deft marlin]

That’s where the wifi is broadcasted from

And wireless peripherals like I mentioned, also have wires inside like the meme about them

[astral haven]

But that's besides the point

[deft marlin]

Yea yea

[astral haven]

Media conversion is what adds most latency these days

[shrewd thicket]

fair

[cursive summit]

As far as wireless goes

Something like this is faster than 99% of wired keyboards https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/innovation/lightspeed.html

[deft marlin]

True

[shrewd thicket]

where did u get that metric from

[deft marlin]

depends on what keyboard

[shrewd thicket]

beg to differ a lot of boards focused on speed/latency are faster than this one....

[deft marlin]

the mice connected via Lightspeed have been tested to be slower than the Wooting 60HE

[cursive summit]

Nope

[deft marlin]

In tachyon mode

by RTINGS

[shrewd thicket]

stats?

[cursive summit]

https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/reviews/logitech/g915-lightspeed

[deft marlin]

RTINGS, TechPowerUp

[cursive summit]

Now for wired, G915 is still faster than wireless

[deft marlin]

Tbf they actually do have problems with latency measuring, you could check TechPowerUp

[cursive summit]

But 1.9ms latency wireless is ridiculous

That beats 99% of keebs easily

[deft marlin]

Check the Corsair K65 RGB Mini - 0.1ms by RTINGS sayings

[cursive summit]

Huh

[astral haven]

Part of the 1%

[deft marlin]

8000hz polling

And the ASUS ROG Chakram core mouse

Budget mouse go brrr

1.5ms

[astral haven]

Ye
There are experiments to do 8khz wireless using hacked Logitech dongles and they are pretty much already working

[cursive summit]

I really don't see much difference between 1000 Hz than 8k Hz

In practicality

[deft marlin]

Those people that bought the Razer Viper 8K for only the 8Khz polling smh

[astral haven]

I see the lag that 8khz causes my system lel

[deft marlin]

I only did it for the ambidextrous option and experimenting with 8K

[cursive summit]

Huh I wonder how fast my mouse can go

[astral haven]

But limit of perception is 20khz
So that's the target for everything 🤷‍♂️

[deft marlin]

one friend was left handed so

[cursive summit]

I don't even know what it's set to rn

[deft marlin]

What mouse you got

[shrewd thicket]

model o best mouse

[cursive summit]

Viper Ultimate

[deft marlin]

Standard 1000hz

[cursive summit]

That's fine

[deft marlin]

New Viper V2 Pro got a 4000hz wireless polling dongle recently

Set to work with upcoming Razer Deathadder V3 Pro too

[shrewd thicket]

I was gonna buy Model D Pro but no bluetooth and 150 eur inc shipping and tax

[cursive summit]

Where do you even check the polling rate on Windows

I used to remember

[shrewd thicket]

kinda shit

[deft marlin]

There are better depending on the purpose but good all rounder

[shrewd thicket]

I wish glorious wireless mice had bluetooth modes

would be perfect for my mac

[astral haven]

Aaaanyways with modern wifi you are getting faster than gigabit latency especially for larger packet sizes simply due to the data rate

And that's even with doubletransmission...

[mild dome]

8000khz makes a difference at extremely high FPS, but since your average gamer is probably 120fps at most it won't matter much

[vocal cipher]

yeah I did, ¨Hardware problems were detected. To identify and repair these problems, you will need to contact the computer manufacturer¨ that was the message but the first one I did couldn't write the log data for some reason (it might have to do with CSM maybe, just guessing) but then I didn't wait for it. Tomorrow I will run it again fully and see if it can write the log data now that I changed to UEFI

[mild dome]

Yeah, best disable CSM, but an error with the PCs ability to write to RAM sounds like you might need to get warranty on your RAM sticks if you still can, or buy new sticks

[tranquil junco]

Who's ready for ZEN 4 to be release

[worldly vortex]

does anyone here have the wooting 60he?

i have some questions about it

[tranquil junco]

I would bet , you would be more likely to get a answer from someone in general

[cursive summit]

A lot of people have the keyboard #🔧│keyboard_modding

For questions, go to #archived_questions_answers

[astral haven]

Loving my new tws set

[wheat plume]

Bloody massive, innit?

[astral haven]

Yuup

My xm4s cowering in fear in the back there are the absolute size of these units

[wheat plume]

My earbuds are smol af

[astral haven]

These very likely sound better...

[wheat plume]

For sure

[arctic mantle]

time to convert my DT770 into removable cable

[shadow minnow]

At 8000 kfps

[shadow minnow]

Oof that case is huge

[astral haven]

The sound is also huge

[mild dome]

Microstutter occurs at fps larger then 120fps, getting worse as monitor refresh goes up.

Once again though, most people wont really notice unless they are ultra sweaty headshotting masters

[shadow minnow]

Yeah microstuter is visible
With 1000hz

But I don’t see the point of 8000hz

Maybe you could argue 2000 could be nice for 240hz

But why more

[shadow minnow]

Yes but in that case just get headphones

[astral haven]

If it's visible on a 120hz at 1000, you need at least 2000 for 120
4000 for 240 by that logic

[astral haven]

What headphones

[shadow minnow]

And especially not 8000khz

[astral haven]

If 4000hz is nescessary, 8000 will be soon

[shadow minnow]

Wouldn’t this microstutter be fixed by mouse just running at like 960 instead of 1000hz?

[astral haven]

No

[shadow minnow]

Why?

[astral haven]

It would turn the stutter into jitter which is aloooooot worse

[mild dome]

8000 was probably picked because might as well

[shadow minnow]

Anyways the stutter with 1khz is so small I really doubt 2khz for 240hz would be an issue

[astral haven]

Anyways the mouse sensors are already running at 10-20khz

[mild dome]

As I said, 8k probably only matters for actual pros

[astral haven]

The only reason we don't just directly feed that to the computer is the USB stack is not meant to handle that many packets

[shadow minnow]

I don’t think 8k matters to pros at current refresh rates

The small performance impact is probably more significant than the advantage

Sure it may matter in the future

But

[astral haven]

The only reason it doesn't matter for pros is games don't render over 800 fps

[shadow minnow]

It’s not the future for pros yet either

[shadow minnow]

Indeed. If they would then it maybe would matter but they don’t

[astral haven]

It will be by '26

That's when the first 1khz monitors are scheduled to release on the current roadmap

[shadow minnow]

I doubt pros keep using their mouse for 4 years

Without changing it

[astral haven]

Many do

[ashen spindle]

if you wait to release the first 8khz product till the first 1khz monitor comes you are also not leaving any time for devs to fix issues on games that couldnt handle it before etc.

[astral haven]

Being accustomed to the mouse is more important than the mouse itself as zowie has proven

[ashen spindle]

and yes in 4 years pros often still have the same mouse

[halcyon moss]

i have one, it still is a good idea

[low swallow]

I got my 60 he but it won’t work on my console

[ashen spindle]

#archived_helpdesk_for_keyboards

[deft marlin]

Normal keyboard functionality should

Anything but double movement if onboard memory is enabled, I’m sure

[fair gull]

no

consoles require a xim apex

those cost a good 100eur and up

[reef patrol]

To clarify it works as a regular keyboard on consoles. But you need to disable the virtual analog controller.

No double movement with the XIM workaround.

[low swallow]

Thx

[wheat plume]

how do I find whats usiong the hard drive ?

[stark bobcat]

disc

[wheat plume]

that shows the C: drive only

[ashen spindle]

no

why would that only show C

[wheat plume]

Cause it's saying that disk is using just 3% here

And clearly the F: is being 36% used

And the 3% matches the C: in the same task manager tab

[halcyon moss]

on what scale is the 3%

[ashen spindle]

it even has a tooltip

[wheat plume]

Hhhmmm

[halcyon moss]

3% of max speed of the c drive? that could be 36% on the f drive

[wheat plume]

Apparently it's 3% of the max speed of all the connected drives put together

According to that tooltip

[halcyon moss]

and those percentages are guestimations at best

[wheat plume]

Is it possible to disable the individual circuit breakers for each room and only make them turn off the power to the whole house if the main one is triggered?

I want to disable mom's ability to turn off power to my room whenever she thinks I'm on my computer -.-

Cause there is a circuit breaker for each room
So how do I make only the main one do something?

[stark bobcat]

the solution is to have a good relationship with your mother

[wheat plume]

Thats not possible
She hates me too much

[ashen spindle]

yes by knowing what you are doing so you dont instantly kill yourself by rewiring the fuses in the wrong order

[stark bobcat]

just don't do that and tough it out

[wheat plume]

I don't want my computer to be destroyed by constant sudden power loss

-.-

[ashen spindle]

that wont happen

[stark bobcat]

I think stuff like that usually just results in file corruption

[ashen spindle]

yes you could lose data but nothing will break from power loss

[wheat plume]

:/

So don't do anything on my computer that's important
Got it

[crimson wigeon]

Sneak in one of those UPS thingies

[wheat plume]

Nice thanks

[cursive summit]

Dunno if sudden power loss is good for the PSU

[wheat plume]

Doubt it is

[cursive summit]

UPS is pretty cheap nowadays and really useful

[ashen spindle]

yeah the psu might complain but will still be fine for quite some time

[stark bobcat]

you could def get a ups just don't expect it to be able to power your pc for long

[cursive summit]

It's not meant for that

UPS is literally so you get a few minutes extra to save your data

It's not an auxiliary power generator

[ashen spindle]

technically SSDs and such could end up with breakdowns but for the most part the psu would take the hit and the left over power still in a capacitor would be enough to shut it down

[cursive summit]

For how affordable UPS'ses are, if your area is prone to electricity losses

Ngl, it's not a bad investment

[stark bobcat]

definitely is worth it

tried to get my friend from bulgaria to get one since he has relatively frequent power outages

[final flame]

it's good for power outages and brown outs

[ashen spindle]

brown outs and power surges are definitely more harmful than total blackout

[cursive summit]

UPS should protect from that

[cursive summit]

Since all electricity goes directly into it, no?

[stark bobcat]

Why is amazon dumb

Buy steamdeck accessories

"want a business account?"

[cursive summit]

But do you want an amazon business account?

[stark bobcat]

no clue what that even entails

probably me paying amazon more

[crimson wigeon]

You can pretend to be a business and maybe get better service

[ashen spindle]

and deal with more tax stuff, fun!

[stark bobcat]

they are just doing that cuz I just cancelled my prime

lmfao

[cursive summit]

How dare you, cancel prime 😠

[crimson wigeon]

B-b-but PRIME!

[cursive summit]

Don't you like all of your twitch benefits?

Free subs, skins for games you will never play?

[stark bobcat]

not worth paying 10€ more

[cursive summit]

Surely you will use prime video then

Watch all the stuff you don't care for

[stark bobcat]

I would watch the boys or the expanse but I can just ask my dad for his prime to watch it

[cursive summit]

Alright hear me out

You will have to resubscribe cause this is insane value

Audible

AUDIOBOOKS MAN

LITERALLY INSANE

[stark bobcat]

prime was pretty good value ngl but increasing the price makes it really unattractive for me

[cursive summit]

Imagine not subscribing to Prime just cause of Audible

[stark bobcat]

I still have 20 million warhammer 40k audiobooks that I still have yet to listen to

and at this point in my life I'd rather read the books than listen to them

[cursive summit]

You drive a hard bargain, not friend

Look Jeff will give you one last chance

Amazon Music

All the songs you will never listen to

Subscribe.back.to.Prime

[stark bobcat]

prime music is nice but sadly I am already all in on spotify

[cursive summit]

That's it you've done it

Sending in amazon terminator blimps

https://tenor.com/view/amazon-drone-protoss-gif-18317187

[stark bobcat]

shiiit drone strikes incoming

about the be project thor'd by amazon satellites

[wheat plume]

What happens if the phone battery gets too hot??

It says don't get it above 45C but it gets really close when charging and using hotspot

[crimson wigeon]

The protection will kick in and your phone will probably complain it's getting too hot and start seriously throttling

[wheat plume]

Oh

[ashen spindle]

spontaneous combustion

[crimson wigeon]

Or that, depending on phone

[wheat plume]

.....

hopefully not any modern phone

[junior ore]

There be a reason why transportation have super restrictions on phone batteries

[fair gull]

well deffo faster degradation

[wheat plume]

yeh ;-;

how tf yoi find battery health on Android???

without root

[astral haven]

Some phones don't report it, but ampere will read it if they do

[fair gull]

battery health is smth you cant report all too easily anyway

ud use a tool that runs a few days in the background to log it so the phone can log charge and powerdraw

[wheat plume]

Ampere doesnt show me health

[halcyon moss]

39 is just slightly above pocket temperature

[pale sigil]

@halcyon moss why the profile pic

[halcyon moss]

i wanted something else than the pcmr mascot

but i liked the yellow.

and.... i dont see it as i use the compact view

[crimson wigeon]

Yup, compact is the way to go

[fair gull]

so u dont know how batteries work

good to know

[halcyon moss]

and it was easy to make

[wheat plume]

??

it says maximum capacity

is that the health?

[fair gull]

the health is how much power your battery actually delivers

iphones basically monitor it which is how they provide battery health

[wheat plume]

The health is how much of the total mAh it can hold at max charge

[fair gull]

that would be the shittiest indicator of health cause ur battery could be lying

and just drop from 60 to 20percent charge

[wheat plume]

Say if the battery can hold 4200mAh brand new
And over time it drops to only being able to hold 4000mAh
It would have lost health and that's how the iPhone gets the %

[fair gull]

better battery health would be (actually used mAh)/(rated mAh)

[wheat plume]

I'm wondering if the app updates thay value if the health goes down or will it always display this same value since thahs the battery's max capacity regardless of health