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when are we gonna get a 2nd internet to escape all this surveillance and censorship thats on its way 
I dont use the #🎮│game channel a lot, but are these the usual conversations that go on here?
what does that mean
In every other payment method, the payment can be clawed back
Technically Bitcoin has replace by fee transactions that if there aren't enough confirmations you can slip a new transaction in that sends the coins somewhere else, but that's easily mitigated by just waiting a few more blocks
@grave granite
Yes that's right. Quick guide to channels:
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#🐸│memes is for long winded political discussions
#🐱│pets is a holy place
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@grave granite
nintendo tryna find an angle on how to sue them with a patent over this
it do be kinda beaming
calling it a net is very optimistic
the only good anti cheat im aware of is the rootkit you install with riot games
Yeah, and the older version of what Genshin Impact had. Oh wait it was a good tool for pushing your own naughty stuff to the kernel and whatnot
@pure bear
what am i to be seeing here
Takky0n
ooh
wew nier franchise sale with 65% off on the 2 games and the dlc for automata
Do you mean @grave granite ?
Well that's Mafia TOC finished just time to start finding all the hidden stuff then
Kinda wish there were some options on some choices because some of the story was just stupid but it's Mafia so eh
ye it follows the same kinda story path as 1 and 2
Racing? 
there is actually 2 races in old country
Overall good game but some of the story could've been better, the explore option would be nicer to have like Mafia 2
games definitely solid but ill wait until release to see what kinda catch theyre gonna patch in
or if i even have the time/wanna play it on release
No preorders 
"Noooo, dont preorder guys please its not worth" -LD
Also preorders are more expensive than buying on launch aren't they?
Dashi preordered, miss “dont preorder” has fallen
Dashi is miss consumer 
Consoooooom
Last game I preordered was GoWR. That was back when physical copies of games actually meant something
Last think I preordered was Nyakuza Metro DLC for A Hat in Time, because I was sure they'd deliver 
Did they?
Eyup, it was great 
ahh, all is done, had my fun
Same
Damn lol
I guess I'm waiting until next weekend to complete them
doesn't take too long, but the engi one is annoying since you have to piggy back somebody's tank
i got that done in 2 games lucky for me, got tanks that would actually let me heal them
Took me 3 games
2nd game the dude kept driving off into the sunset and blowing himself up
gotta hope no one else is in the vehicle so you hop in to follow and bail if its crazy
gamers really are the worst at sticking to principles
Like when people were gonna hold on the Nintendo Switch 2

Reddit doesn't reflect the wider market, especially when it comes to Nintendo.
ye most switch owners arent old enough for reddit
Why do certain "gamers" have the stick up their ass about boycotts anyway?
yeah nintendo fans has never really had any principles but then again not really claimed to do so either 
because companies keep shoving anti-consoomer sticks up our asses I guess
turns out gamers on average is really into this humiliation kink
people just dont careee
they care until it becomes even the slightest bit inconvenient for them personally
god i hate that anti cheat
people do love to complain about the tech dystopia we've ended up in and companies seemingly endless overreach into our lives and personal details
skynet already winning
and it all stems from this lack of principles and solidarity among the populace
skynet? people literally gifting their privacy away for convenience
I guess its fine if I sell my soul to EA once more if the new battlefield is decent
"Let me ask gpt" xD
fr though youre right
these companies fuck us over and then play us like a fiddle to win us back and it works every goddamn time
its so demoralizing
well if the product is good
im done with trying to moral stand stuff or not do something because of someone or what they did before. lifes too short and i just do what i enjoy
the product itself is the trojan horse for their bs to seep into your life
its really not that deep.. you buy an FPS and you have some fun with it (or not)
doesnt mean im buying into some weird grand plan or eco system of EA
voting with your wallet works, which is why we are getting this game and thousands of people have been losing their jobs
I guess most people here are too young to remember a time when things used to be different
also means to support shit that you do enjoy
how old are you? also the past is like a book. read it, dont live in it
its kinda hard when our species is so hell bent on reliving the worst aspects of our past 
we used to have dedicated servers and actually get to know and connect to people by joining the same ones. linking up with a clan on teamspeak, have friendly scrims. that is all gone for mathcmaking where you never meet the same people twice unless the game is dead
we are as connected as ever but yet as lonely as ever
do i miss the old times of when they used to release full games for a full price and not tryna milk us? ofc. but thats not the reality we live in anymore. gotta make the best of it and just vote with your wallet. ask ubisoft, ea, microsoft and all those studios that were closed down this and last year how well that works :3
and we're agreeing to so much invasive crap noone in their right mind would agree to 30 years ago
ye. its the boiling frog thing
you put a frog into boiling water itll jump out. you put him in normal water and make it boil slowly, itll die in it
am just wondering at what point it'll be too much for the average pleb
and thats what theyve been doing for us over the past 30+ years
I think most people just want to have fun
well duh
I find many modern games fun 
and its what theyll keep doing. now theyre doing this ID crap for porn sites. social media is already following suit and so are some games and its just a matter of time until any movement on the internet is tracked with your ID and every move is used against you
and we deserve every bit of it until we collectively grow some balls and tell these people no, go fuck yourselves
fun games never stopped coming out. just a lot of trash bloat from AAA studios that try to make money instead of trying to make good games. its just what happens when big money gets involved
The id shit most people were just like ohhh vpns are a thing and they'll never manage to actually implement it
the fucking kelloggs cfo suddenly works for ubisoft and is like: ye if we put 500mil into a game with ships that has no gameplay, that measns we make 3 billion in revenue
I swear the amount of times i talked about it and just got told "BUT I HAVE A VPN SO ITS WHATEVER"
vpn aint gonna save us if all these sites choose to just implement these rules basically globally as a standard
Honestly, the dedicated server era wasn't better. I grew up playing enough WoW to know what petty drama "community leaders" will pull. That shit still exists with private leagues in games like iRacing as well. I'll take the larger matchmaking systems over anything a private individual has any real control over.
yeah that is very much missing the point of it all
and since they have to implement the checks anyway may as well get all user data..
lots of things weren't better back in the day too, am not gonna pretend like it was all perfect back then
but I feel like at least people had more resilience to corporate bullshit
ye but wow players are fucking weird and ive heard stuff like this before. its different when youre playing a pve game that includes value of any kind (loot) or just mp pvp games
nowadays we just bend over and take whatever draconian garbage they think of for their next patch update
if that were true we wouldnt be where we are right now
that's what decades of chipping away at your morale and sense of community does to you
from the very first second people were crying about mtx and yet they were paying out their asses for them. if this wasnt true there wouldnt be a literal trillion dollar economy on selling you skins or gambling anime waifus
people on average have gotten extremely divisive
i think the internet makes it seem more this way
and people being terminally online and fighting for stupid issues that dont even matter for their own lives
or fighting for issues that aren't even real because some asshole with an agenda made it up
also people getting lonelier and lonelier because they spend their time on their phone or pc chatting up on reddit, x and what ever other platforms, radicalizing each other cz theyre lonely but they find places to belong to
i firmly believe social media did more bad than good for us
and kids shouldnt be on it..
Australia are banning social media for under 16 year olds
But then how do you actually enforce it?
Hence the loop around to ID verification in apps and services
well obv theyre gonna implement id checks
as someone who actually used internet in the 90s and had great hopes for what it could do for humanity seeing where we've ended up is one of the most doompilling things I can think of
weird how the whole west suddenly decided we need IDs on the web. isnt that curious
instead of enlighting people its become a festering ground for dipshits with alterior motives
and nobody knows or seems to care what's real anymore
you know whats helped me feel better in recent years? not being on social media for any social or political crap at all. ignorance is bliss. why should i get angry about crap i cannot change or control. and you cannot convince people online anyway. everyone goes in with their opinion and like 95% of people cannot be swayed even with literal proof of facts
well the 90s was an interesting era for tech, there were a lot of excitement and optimism for what this new tech would do for us 
people always imagine the best cases and never think about how humans actually are
theres always people trying to get ahead
thats just normal. not even evil per say
oh I've tried, problem is these problems we want to ignore keeps getting bigger and creeping into our lives no matter how hard we look the other way
do they tho. what do the wars across the planet have to do with me and my life apart from my country wasting my hard earned money on them
I may be completely powerless to stop it, but I can be the angry old git yelling at clouds telling you all I told you so when shit's gone far enough for even the avg preorder goon to notice 
am paying roughly twice for my groceries now
is feeling bad for months or even years to tell a random on the web on discord "i told you so" worth it tho
it doesn't matter if its worth it or not, I can't just shut brain off and go into happy obedient 2025 consoomer mode
we are paying a lot more as well but what does getting angry about it or argue with people do? even protesting. it all does nothing. unless theres an actual way to contribute i think its wasted time
even if I actually wanted to
well dont consume then. you should do what you enjoy and not try to see a bigger picture to it
i didnt buy a single bf since bf3. this one looks good i maybe buy bf6
theres nothing more to it. i do what i enjoy.
doesnt mean the evil corpos have won and now im caught in some weird net of conspiracies
what if you're getting priced out of doing what you used to enjoy
like gpus? 
that's one thing, yes
theres things we can do and things we cant. in this example specifically. nvidia has 90%+ gaming market share while gaming isnt even 10% of their revenue and that includes switch 2 sales btw. so what CAN you do when their last 2 series have both sold very badly and they dont seem to care
that's the thing, we can put our fingers in our ears and sing all we like but fact is the things we love and care about are subject for getting ruined like everything else
ye but i dont have to obsess about it every day on some social media
how much longer are we going to pretend there's no iceberg
what has seeing the iceberg and constantly looking at it done for you or us?
neither do I man I got off facebook like a decade ago now
You can buy an AMD or Intel GPU
only social media I really use is this, discord
you can but then you also buy worse products assuming you want high end
I don't need a juicy clickbait headline to convince me of how fucked things are getting, I can just look at the cold hard numbers and statistics 
thing is even if in normal rendering the amd 9070xt is really good their ai crap is still barely comparable to nvidia. and as we can see those features get more and more important with ue5 literally not even giving you the option to render native without any upscaling
and our collective response is oh well throw some more gasoline on the fire and not worry about it
most people just dont actually care. limits of people are different and they make concession at different points. issue is that over time more and more will just accept things how they are
you know how often i heard: "so? we got nothing to hide"
yeah its hard to accept the 2020s reality when you've lived most of your life in a decent timeline 
and im like.. ye ok but what if what we have to hide is different when politics shifts?
for the young people now they haven't known much else than economic turmoil and general instability
used to have to hide that youre gay, last 10 years you had to hide when you made jokes about gay people lol, cz people would cancel you for that
well homophobes can rejoice because their second wind is now
man i just found out that bf6 destruction actually isnt live rendered like the finals but completely prescripted.. man that sucks
whatever cheapest solution that works to sell the illusion
we are still talking about a triple A product here after all 
ye. i mean servers to actually calculate that shit serverside like the finals does but for 64+ people are prolly impossible to pay for lol
if it can even be done on such a massive scale
probably could, but it'd be more costly and complex than the shareholders would want to get behind
id assume the cost is so crazy, you couldnt even make money on it. but i dont actually know
given the bf playerbase size, they probably could
ye thats exactly why i brought this up. just seen it
but it'd be less money than what they're making now which is a no-no 
Ah XD
for sure
Would live destruction be cool since it's kinda the whole BF gimmick, sure but I wouldn't mind either way
the game and the maps are too big for it to matter like it does in the finals
First battlefield game?
Bad Company 2 had a meme where the medic class with a machinegun was perfectly viable as a long range sniper.
Can only squad mates res?
just wait until they have the 128 palyer lobbies in weekend 2
I am very excited for the Empire State map!
squad mates and medics
BF6 protop, you can paddle peeps being normal revived
so if you see someone dragging someone you can just insta revive them
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What game?
oh yeah, I cant play it yet cause my desktop sucks too bad
but ive been wanting to badly
also
washing machine...

Washing machines live longer with Calgon
:')
comfy bedroom!
there was a comment on this game about how the backrooms in this game seem like they could be the afterlife for demolished / ruined buildings and thats why we see so many suburban homes and accomodation centers
And we're back to our regularly scheduled Lanapost.
.....wait wait blankroomsoup.avi?? is that you????
you want to play a horror fps with some backrooms vibes, go play og f.e.a.r.
The great kernel war
Ah good, forcing people to pick just one malware-anticheat infested game to play
i mean its right, peopple should uninstall valorant
fortnite festival is just better
Tmw i posted it in #🔌│tech then come here and see it

HOW WOULd I KNOW I'm SUPPOSED TO CHECK EVERY CHANNEL
There's like two active channels 
#🐱│pets
Ok that's actually really funny "West Kirby"
@maiden tulip
For fuck sake
In London of all places
London needs to be bombed
I am noticing a lot of deltarune and furrys on wplace
HARU URARA!
it doesnt make you uninstall it
you just cant open both at the same time
thats how i got that error
And pokemon, to be expected
My area
What is that map called
Why is Star_ there
Wplace
It is not loading for me
Did you zoom in?
I wonder what that's going to be on the right side
Holy project moon characters
Yet
Deltarune takes precedence over teto
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is this the battlefield 6 that they're talking about
there is a second week
yeah ik
but I wanted to challenge myself
also because BF6 is way too much fun
i got 105 revives on breakthough
what map?
oh liberation peak
thats what I call a good support class player
most of them just walk by me when I need a res
yep
But medics can res anyone. Only your own squad can res you if they are a different class
yeah ik
yeah they forget to charge it up before they approach you LMAO
it like takes a second before you can use it
nope
I am excited for their NY themed maps though
its just one map next week
I only do that when I need to drag a player away from the line of fire
I've mostly played assault. Blowing people up with a grenade launcher is always funny
sadly after 4 revives you just get multi revivie
i think i got 10 or atleast 9 combo and no special thing
I mostly did the engineer and support class, blowing up other vehicles is hella fun and repairing what the team has.
the shotguns are quite broken though LMAO
are there more shotungs?
especially in these smaller maps where cqc is very common
thats how they should work in bf
no it's like wayy too overpowered. they need to balance it.
also the server timings have been a little wacko
did you not play bf3?
I have not, are shotguns supposed to be this good?
yes
hmm, aight then
90% of small maps arent large enough for shotguns to drop off
its one map
it's the NY one right?
ah
in bc2 you could counter snipe 50s with the 870
oh really? no slugs?
or with slugs?
slugs and magnum
ah, yeah that does make sense
similar thing in BF6
when you kit out the shotgun with a scope and slugs
no its tame in 6
in bc2 you could get 400m hits
like spawn to spawn on the biggest map
oh wow
and it had a 8x
yeah same
ah
love using the smoke grenades for breakthrough
smoke and rush
yeah you get 2 which is dope
yee
yeah I can see why that was really good now
I see yeah
its still good
in the 2 breakthough maps i found the lmgs single shot are amazing at snipers
nice
yeah, thats unfortunate
there is also a really funny bug with the sliding mechanic where you can slide infinitely
found it kind of by accident but it was funny when it happened.
just didnt stop sliding.
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hopefully DICE will fix it
dose it work in game or just the range
also works in game
how do you trigger it?
I honestly dont know, I triggered it by accident one time and then I couldnt figure out why, not many people talking about it when I tried looking it up.
here is someone doing it in game https://www.tiktok.com/@jawnwicktv/video/7536418880315460878
Nice
I need to grind out the recon and assault classes more in weekend 2
Im loving recon with sniper
The top of that hill is my favorite sniper spot
That and support with smg is all I've ran
The one in the middle of the map
more mid sniper clips
Honestly give the engineer class a try on maps like liberation peak
You can use the surface to air guided missiles on helicopters and fighter jets and it's super satisfying to get them destroyed with one
i honestly just love avoiding them and sneaking around w my sniper
Nice
Yee
snipers are in a really good spot too, not op at all. But very strong when played right
they did a good job at doing what most games cant, balancing snipers
i would be even happier with a slightly shorter sweet spot range, but even with it at 80m its still super good
i abused the fuck out of these with the 1 map you can get out of bounds
a teammate put one up and i spawned on it and was just ontop of buildings the entire game
went 45 and 2 
Cairo right?
i think thats what its called, the one with the big freeway overhead on E
Cauz I know you can get on top of the bridge on that map and then hop from building to building
every single building there doesnt have an out of bounds
and honestly they are built as if you are meant to be able to get up there
Yeah that was surprising
because they had ramps to jump across to other buildings easily and shit
Verticality on maps like that is pretty cool though
like proper routes to buildings with good lines of sight
yeah i would honestly love that to be how that map is
Even though it doesn't seem like it was intentional
it seems like the buildings were built with it in mind
but the way to actually get there is deff a bug
Ahh Snipers not contributing to the conquest.. it's an age old tradition
my w/r is pretty good actually
i tend to pickoff people on the spots its needed
Tbh, for conquest you just smoke and rush
more than just useless sniping for kd
dont get me wrong i prefer a good kd over a win but i havent been throwing games for kd
Same strat for rush
Extremely effective
sniping is my bread and butter for games like this, i have a quite good playstyle to where it still benefits the team for winning while im off doing my own thing
Also works well in breakthrough
even with the no 1 shot body closer range i still get very aggro w a sniper too
which works surprisingly well for not having a good side arm
pistols (or at least the one available to us) are very weak
Yeah, although when the game actually comes out I'm pretty sure there will be more sidearms available to pick out.
for sure which will hopefully provide good options for a useful side arm
if the p320 we have did just like 5 more damage it would be good to actually stand a chance close range
Yee
unless your enemies are absolutely clueless you basically lose 8/10 gunfights with the pistol we have
Yeah
Unless you stick with assault class and treat your shotgun as a sidearm LMAO
Or vice-versa
Well it require glitches
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I’ll do radiant in soloq this time after immo
Yes
The tactile insertion and uav are amazing though
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Games be coming back on Steam and itch.io?
im surprised by how much fun im having with the bf6 beta ngl
i might actually buy it on release
i cant lie i think im gonna pre order it
most fun ive had in a game for a LONG time
if only I had a license haha
Buy it and keep it at home as your plushie vehicle room

we got those by birth its fine
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My brain can't comprehend this level of tomfoolery.
An eight month vacation and all I got were some rogue trucks running amok
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Yeah, kinda sucks when people have no money.
I won't be paying 70/80€ for a slop game which doesn't even work properly 
I'm happy to buy a £70-80 game, I just buy and play less games in general.
Sure
If it's worth it 
Most games just aren't
There is a near 100% likelihood that I buy whatever £120 GTA VI ultimate edition they end up selling 
I paid £90 for the RDR2 Ultimate Edition on PS4 back in 2018
Worth every penny
Red Dead Online didn't exactly work out for them but otherwise the single player was incredible.
See - games that are actually worth it

But, say, Star Wars Outlaws I wouldn't take even for free 
Stellar Blade: Deluxe Edition for £80 was worth it. Good story, great ass, cool soundtrack.
Enjoyed the Nier crossover as well.
Whaaaat - A gamemode with predatory "must log in and play every day" mechanics necessary to unlock more gameplay, griefing being a meta to avoid doing work and nothing new or special about it compared to the SP campaign?
How could it not be a success.
It came out during the bad era of GTA Online where every weapon and vehicle was more stupid than the previous.
No, we didn't need flying bikes with rockets.
Last game I bought was Split Fiction, no regrets there
Yup, amazing game 
🚨CONFIRMED: Cheats are already working in Battlefield 6.
This footage proves CHEATS are FULLY FUNCTIONAL on Day 1 of Early Access Beta. https://t.co/j9WSyWPEI1
€69,99 and can't even enjoy the beta without getting wallhacked
Honestly, they should go for 30€ price tag and more microtransactions, given the popularity of open beta
Would make EA more money 
Seems a lot of people have been playing the open beta though
It'll probably sell well enough at the current price tag
Sure - because it was free
Why do that when you can do 69.99 and more microtransactions
Potentially less people who will buy the game
Ideally you want F2P and microtransactions, but that wouldn't work for BF
If people give Nintendo money for a system they can brick whenever they feel like it, you know people will give EA money for game

brick for playing used game
They can brick whenever they feel like it and no games on release 
member when we owned the products we bought
I do you better, Epic Account, still usable
devs be like not enough people still play the game you like we're killing the servers sorry lmao
Meanwhile ArenaNet
Guild Wars 1 has 400 concurrent players? Time for an update
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meanwhile epic delists all their games that walked so fortnite could run
and gave their engine its goddamn name
Paragon
still have some sniffles, but atleast I can breathe again and my voice isnt fucked up anymore :D
getting all the bad vibes out before gamescom next week
The plushie army protected Raquel

apparently they did allow the original isos to be freely available
footage of how my baby tried to heal me over the weekend~
Wait, Fortnite Engine? 
cuddlies are the best for that 
its more fortnite engine than unreal engine these days that's for sure
Zamn!!!!! @little cape
Gotta love the Cyberpunk 2077 photo mode https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3545590797
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ye spending on gaming went back becasue zoomers are all hobos apparently. has nothing to do with the games that arent worth spending money on or anything
Free market media loves so much depends on constant innovation to win the market and consumers
But when company fails to do that, then according to media it's consumer's fault
Go figure 
ye its our fault all these games are failing ofc
Poor executives can't afford 8th yacht, it's so sad, Alexa play Despacito 
Also also - you see - free market assumes that businessmen want to keep their company afloat
In reality it's all about squeezing money for shareholders and leaving company to die
its mainly the difference between when devs/publishers tried to make good games to make money and now they just try to make money with economy degrees
profits from gaming skyrocketed during covid and as usual when a ceo sees the line go up by a lot he naturally assumes it'll stay that way forever and starts buying up every other studio
"dont you guys have phones" is the western gaming industry in a nutshell. they lost their pulse on gamers because they arent gamers
I think that devs still want to do make good games, but can't do much with small budgets, tight deadlines and abysmal job rotation
idk about small budgets when ubisoft puts like 400m per game
and wukong, e33 and other AA games made masterpieces with less than 50m
Now how much of these 400M goes to devs and how much to executives
its not a budget issue. its a skill issue
game studios making it big ultimately starts to suffer from their own success
because they'll ultimately end up at the mercy of shareholders
they think they put in x amount of money and it scales inifinitely so they get back y amount of money
But... like... don't try to make games big
Try to make them good
It's fine when you plan to do a big game, like BG3
But if you just put side-missions that no one wants to do so you can say "70 hours of gameplay"... why?
good gameplay would help.. shitty filler content or somehow completely ignoring their target audience are just secondary problems
most triple A slopfarms of today once started out as small and/or indie devs making a really good game
ye but most of the good talent left
Blizzard 
blizzard has barely ANY OGs left working there after they got taken over by activision
Yeah, I know 
tbh i think bf6 is a sign of better things to come
i would guess EA arent the only ones waking up. but maybe im coping
EA moved to milking Apex to death, so DICE has more room to do an actual game
Vehicle, smoke, RUN
Blizzard are still in decent shape though
WoW has been popping off these last few years
ye cz wow players love eating shit
@grave granite bro uninstall Linux and install Windows so we can play the B6 beta
Nah, WoW is in a good state right now.
it really isnt
Probably the perfect forever game
Between modern, classic and several seasonal game modes.
Player housing this year as well.
the last good thing blizz did was overwatch and when did that release? 9 years ago?
it open beta friend
open beta is over until thursday 

Yeah... 
wows in good shape if you only care about dressup and collecting pointless shit and having to put 0 effort into anything
Have you seen the modern MMO player? Dress up is the real end game.
yo did you just describe MMOs nowadays?
Just look at FFXIV 
as it should be
GW2 Fashion Wars 
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ok but ff14 is also kinda really dead and barely qualifies as a gameplay mmo
most people in there just weeb life sim all day
game feels like vrchat
FF14 is good if you care about story and social features
Action/fighting part quite sucks
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High-end combat is good in XIV as well
Yeah, stand in place and cast incantations, no thank you 
Literally just clogging the servers
Igor has the speedrun world record in this game
You... you have not played real high-end content
It gets good after 200 hours trust me bro
That is unironically the case for the combat experience
blizzard in the 90s were just untouchable, even in the best of possible outcomes they woulda struggled to live up to that legacy today
Kinda rough until levels 50-60 depending on the class you're playing
I saw the YT videos, because I dropped the game after an hour, because I had to stay 1.5s in one place, not moving, to cast throwing a stone 
And yeah, it's mostly standing in place and casting stuff
sadly they can't even figure out what people liked about their games in the first place anymore
they can, but theyre trying to cast the net as wide as possible to capture all the people that arent even interested for browny points on social media
Hunt Showdown 
good thing they put a guy in a wheelchair in fucking wow.......
not like its a fantasy world full of magic and mythical creatures
couldnt have done anything better fitting
But it doesn't 
Especially not after 1896 update 
not to mention said wheelchair guy is like the strongest living mage in the world with the ability to fix the situation in a million other ways
but nah spectral wheelchair
It's a power move
negative aura farming
I miss playing Hunt so much
ye. the power to take a shit on a characters legacy for a misguided effort of inclusion
I wish it'd stay a rooty tooty point and shooty game like it used to be, with shotguns, pistols and rifles
And without automatic weapons and snipers camping in bushes everywhere 
And that's why smoke grenades are your friend!
i put 11 hours into the bf6 beta which is a ton for me. cant wait for thursday to play more
I camped in bushes with melee weapons 
but ive also kinda been longing for a good battlefield type experience
cant wait for portal creators to bring in classic mode on full release so im not stuck playing cod with vehicles
havent played bf in a looong time but felt like the usual before bf2042 to me
At least you know you die from a guy with Redneck skin running with axe at you and not some Felis, camping for half of the match in a bush just to shoot two shots, steal bounty and run to extract
sounds like every extraction shooter to me
people watching youtube videos camping the exits until someone shows up
50-series GPUs no longer support 32-bit PhysX, so in certain older games its forced to run on the CPU. This video demonstrates how poorly 32-bit PhysX runs without hardware acceleration that not even a 9800X3D can handle it.
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i assumed it was gonna be bad, but holy fuck
No, just a small library that maps 32-bit game values onto 64-bit ones for PhysX library 
just buy a 3050 as ur 2nd gpu 
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Thats apparently all 32bit physx games (sorted the list now)
depends on the game
if the game exe is 32bit you cant load a 64bit dll willy nilly
I wonder if anyone's working on a translation layer of some sort. Seems like there's enough games for someone to be crazy enough to try 😄
Just do a translation layer for PhysX driver to take 32-bit value from game, do math and transformations on 64-bit values, truncate to 32-bit and return to game 
hm yes with all those details we have
all those specific details nvidia likes to keep for themselves
Yes, ZLUDA has plans to support it, but it's not priority and requires people to contribute... so far no one seems to be contributing https://vosen.github.io/ZLUDA/blog/zluda-update-q1-2025/#physx
since when
Thing is, does that code include the old v2 and v3 versions that these games use?
Yeah that might help a little, but would still need v2 since that is what most of those old games used
It works quite differently
man so nice of nvidia to have 2 repos for physx
except they clearly know how to use branches given the mass of them in https://github.com/NVIDIA-Omniverse/PhysX
eh the gameworks owned physx repo includes a 3.4 branch
so i dont really care if they have another repo for it or not
anyway im still a bit confused how youd nicely call 64bit code from 32bit space unless we are talking IPC here and having some translation being handled by a service/program running
Not a programmer, but it's not uncommon to have a DLL that just passes on data to an external thing and back again.
ive never heard of being able to import and use 64bit code from 32bit space
but then you cant import any 64bit lib
As far as the game is concerned it still works on 32-bit values
Just that when GPU gets request to calculate 32-bit PhysX matrix, GPU takes this value, converts it to 64-bit matrices, does its calculations, and returns truncated 32-bit value
link to literally any source on how to do that on windows
i feel like youre mixing up terms
a 64bit lib is a 64bit compiled library
But you are working with 32-bit library on the game side
Only with translation layer in GPU driver
this clearly says to import a 64bit lib
and i just want a source on how you import a 64bit lib in a 32bit space
windows doesnt even let you import 32bit libs in 64bit space
The game has no idea that calculation is even done on 64-bits
this isnt about the god damn calculations
READ
thank you so you misspoke saying 64bit lib
thats all i wanted to know
Translation layer sits between game and GPU, then GPU doesn't even have to know that it's working with 32-bit values 
i get the whole padding it out and truncating. all i was stuck on was the whole "we just load a 64bit lib"
Honestly
I wonder if you could actually do that given WoW64 
afaik no
ill gladly be pointed to ways to do it
until windows removes kernel drivers soon
idk if linux has some way to run cross arch code in userspace
I do wonder when we'll get a version of Windows with zero compatibility for 32-bit apps. Surely it's Windows 12 (assumed name)?
prob only after CPUs remove 32bit functionality
It used to be the case that you had to run a bootstrap in chroot to be able to do so, but nowadays you only need 32-bit libraries and it'll happily tackle both 32-bit and 64-bit ELFs 
sad windows dev noises
Kinda, Wine has that experimental wow64 mode that might be default soon, in that mode the "Windows" binaries and DLLs remain 32-bit, but everything interacting with the host is 64-bit so you can do neat tricks like run 32-bit windows software on a host that does not have any 32-bit libraries and binaries
They won't
They try to do that and corporate clients will tear them apart
There's a reason why for example there's still Internet Explorer compatibility mode in newest Edge
Microsoft stands on backwards compatibility and earns billions on it
didnt intel try to push for a 64bit only architecture at some point
Itanium? 
Yeah there were plans to get rid of the legacy support, which sounds like a good idea at least on paper
sadly quite a bit newer
Oh, x86S
dont get me started on the totally not confusing name
The fact that even the most modern x86 CPUs still basically start up in real mode capable of running old DOS is kinda nuts though
If it works 
the real question is if there might not be some benefits to cleaning out the realmode stuff same for 32bit stuff
Runs DOOM on DOS on new PC
Still complains about lack of RAM
also why did windows remove being able to run 16bit apps
my legacy plant watering management software dont run no more
afaik you either get 16-bit/32-bit support on real mode or 32-bit/64-bit on protected, which most CPUs run nowadays
And Microsoft didn't bother to do WoW32, so...
But you can run DosBox 
so 16/32 bit apps would need to be emulated when intel completely drops 16-bit and 32-bit support?
i mean at least windows cant run 16bit natively anyway and needs dosbox or such
kinda like apple silicon?
cauz apple silicon is 64 bit only
at least apple made the transition to 64-bit only smoothly since they can control both the OS and the hardware
If Intel drops it
It's not so hot right now at Intel, so I doubt they'll be risking introducing new architecture now
Intel is still pretty big in the Enterprise space, I think this is more to appeal to Enterprise rather than consumer grade stuff for now.
intel is loosing footing everywhere tho
yeah, AMD only just recently started to market Threadripper and Epyc pretty hard
to compete with Xeon and Xeon Max
there are still 16bit calls in windows 11 os side XD
my guy for as much as ryzen has done well in comsumer, eypc has done 10x in enterprise
Yeah it's very impressive, AMD marketing is going super hard to gain market share.
And it's working
yeah more about custom EXE files
amd went from effectively 0% in 2016 to 30% currently
there was still a 25% amd desktop share in 2016
eypc is hurting intel way more than ryzen
same with nvidia with arm
Yeah, but once AMD locked in on zen 3 is when they started getting really good.
Mango CPUs will destroy the market, they will take full share of the entire industry
And then they just got better and better with Zen 4 and Zen 5
dude zen1 wasnt great vs intel in desktop. but eypc 7001 took xeon and buried it
then rome pissed on the grave
do you know what 32c xeon cost in 2017?
Oh they're still hella expensive I know
Over 10 grand easily
thousands
LOL, more like tens of thousands
high end skylake-sp was over 10k
that is thousands
for 28c
naples 32c was 3k
you could literally buy loaded dp 32c naples for a fucking tray price of skylake-sp
and have almost 3x the performance
then next year rome comes in and guess what, 15% ipc, and double the core count for only 10% more per core
64c rome was only 6500
so you could still get dual rome for less than a single 28c skylake
ice lake droped the price a ton to 10k for 40c
still not even close to competeative
intel is down to 64c for 12k on emerald, meanwhile zen5c is 14k for 192c
I feel like the high price is due to the fact that Intel still insists on fabricating and diffusing their own chips in their own fabs which are hella expensive to run and maintain.
even if the ipc was 2x unless your task is uber threaded intel still wouldnt make sense
zen5 normal is 128 for 12k
but spolier, zen5 is as fast or faster for ipc
Even though they can easily contract TSMC to make Xeon
and amd has the fabled 16 ccd zen5c in thier pocket
but there isnt enough memory bandwidth even with 12 channel ddr5-6000
even if intel doubled the core per socket and kept it cool, amd can just be like oh yeah here is 256c per socket
Who would've thought that AMD's long strategy of "MAEK MORE CORES" will pay off 
nah it was chiplets
MAEK MORE CHIPLETS then
as soon as naples came out, amd was like nah fam miss me with that monolithic shit for desktop too
and we only get monolthic mobile and apu for memory latancey reasons
which someone is still good
I'd be concerned with how big those chips are gonna get
zen5c is smaller than zen5
The bigger they are the more likely chance there will be defects
so there is less die area on a 16 ccd zen5c than the 16 ccd zen5 that exists
Defect rate increases with die size
they just only make 12 ccd zen5c for memory thoughput reasons
9755 exists with 16x zen5 ccds
but 9755 and 9965 are both 500w parts
so a 16x 5c would have to be down clocked
5c is aready 2.2 base and 3.7 boost
for pretty much all skus
remember zen5c is tsmc 3, zen 5 is 4
physically smaller dies yay!
this is 4c but 5c has the same srink
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yeah I was having weird issues with that as well
16 core 4c is the same size as 8 core 4
its wild
with 5c being die srunk vs 5 it will be smaller die size
4 and 4c are same size
So the beta is over or it's closed beta right now
on 14th it'll be open again
i just looked at the store page.. the expensive edition of bf6 doesnt even have dlc in it? they gave up on that? cz that pack only gives you skins and battlepass + a level skip 
buying a bp for maps? i feel like that will create such a negative sentiment that after a while youll have issues finding players who have it
also means you cant get the map anymore if you missed the bp
Pretty sure they stopped doing that, actual game content (maps and such) is free for everyone and you pay for skins
i guess thats better anyway
tho that also always means that non paid visuals look ass on purpose to sell you skins
I mean like, BP is paid, but everybody got a free map update
ah ye
well seems theyll be making money on skins and xp boosts rather than maps
probably sells better as well
funnily enough atm all bfs but 2042 are on sale but not as deep as usually
usually its hard to find a time where theyre not all on sale for 2 bucks on steam
I wonder what they will fix prior to the 2nd weekend beta
i only had 2 bugs that i actually noticed. once i died from "falling" when i jumped on like a crack and the other was the mp7 reload animation not playing but still reloading
might be a dumb question but are there any signs of EA publishing an update for the BF6 client to fix some of the issues people were having with the infinite queues
The only bug I see is the visual glitches that can cause epilepsy.
That and some of the jank like reviving with defil unable to work
there are also a hole in one of the maps (I think it was Cairo) where you can fall under the map LOL.
they addressed that within this beta and restarted the servers for it as well
lmao
it was like near one of the stairs
oh perfect!
DICE is working real hard it seems
well idk if its fixed but they claimed they did and i didnt have any more infinite q after
dice working like their jobs depend on it. literally 
I mean yeah, it's their biggest title this year
Gotta be a success this time after seeing Capcom stock falls due to incompetence
they work for microsoft now and theyve seen 16k jobs just disappear a couple weeks ago
ontop of the thousands thatve been lost since 2024
sad
eh.. maybe make games for the players and not for yourself
also AI.. so ye
gonna hit most of us at some point
they had 4 whole years to cook this up and they probably really dont want to mess it up.
esp after the disaster that was 2042
im stunned to find out that bf2042 is 4 yo now..
yeah
had to check it just now after your claim

i remember trying that beta and hating it from the first second
lel yeah
their own game felt like a cheap chinese clone.. and that hero crap they did..
Delta force is gonna take such a huge hit
yeah that was dumb
was thinking the same thing lol. tho chances are those numbers are mostly chinese players already so maybe not a really visible hit
i tried it too but between the rootkit anti cheat and it just not feeling great either i uninstalled it after one session
Bf heros was kinda fun.. But yeah.. Not worth it
wasnt that the 3rd person comic style one?
I played it for a bit, was enjoyable and then I just installed as well
so keep playing https://risinghub.net/
Battlefield Heroes revive project
I do find the slight bit of lore in BF6 kinda interesting, taking place in 2029 where a private military company turns against it's supporter.
sounds almost like mw3
sounds like a couple war themed games. personally i dont care at all but it would be cool if their sp campaign wasnt ass
youd actually pay full price for the campaign?
if its decent yes
cause id prob play it more than 2 or 3 times
same with cod games
i usually play them a few times so its worth it for me
I was so happy when i discovered it a few years back, single handedly the game i spent the most student money on when i was young and it was still live, Rising Hub plays well and feels just like live.
the only war shooter campaign i played more than once was mw in 2007
may or may not be scared if this take on the very near future is accurate
heck i still play cod1, 2 and MoH
i played all cod campaigns from cod 1 to bo. i used to enjoy them a lot as a wee kid
i think i didnt finish bo tho
cant really imagine playing them anymore these days. but maybe some day ill give it a shot
this kinda reminds me. anyone remember that fps campaign game that had a "beta" for it that was making fun of cod?
i cant remember the name.. something starting with a B? and you were able to dropkick people and had a whip that could pull on people and make them slomo
bulletstorm
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that shit was hilarious
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the sad part is that, if everything else fails theres gonna be bozos doing something like this lol
It seems to work pretty well too 😭
Not surprised. I do find it kind of sad that people have the audacity to unironically cheat on the BF6 beta, but it really only works in EA's favor to improve Javelin.
There are even a few streamers who cheated on BF6 😭
thats just the fps life. theres never been an fps that didnt have day 1 (beta) cheats ever. apart from MAYBE val but there im not sure
Yeah, although I rarely run into any cheaters, maybe every one or two games there is a cheater that has like 50 kills and 0 deaths 
ive run into cheaters in fps super rarely as well. at least the ones where youd notice. im sure theres are plenty people soft cheating
Yeah
"Aim assist" on kb and mouse

Although there was one streamer that took it a little too far and was obviously locking onto players behind rocks and buildings LMAO.
Tbh I'm not sure how much the aim assist helps for console players on the cross-platform lobbies.
the guy with the catgirl pngtuber thing?
I think so? Idk which one, there are too many of them 
idk him either. ive just seen the clip where he flicks and tracks 180 and insta shoots at a wall within 1 frame
Yeah that's way too obvious
EA and DICE are gonna have a field day looking at those VODs
and his excuse is.. minimap
he got banned from twitch but apparently he might get unbanned. idk if thats true
And bro occludes up the minimap with the png

Oh and I'm pretty sure they also have access to player data and logs too
every game with useless eac is going well enough. hard to imagine theirs will be worse, but who knows
with these stupid rules around tpm and secure boot you can bet that linux will not work under any circumstances and that its by design
And that's fine, they don't want me to play? Whatever, there are a shitton of games around for me to play anyway
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The problem is that this is the same devs as tribes ascend. So it might get abandon pretty quick.
i tried the demo with a friend. the levels and opponents were bland and boring af
well we tried like 1-2 months ago so idk if theres more/different content now. but the demo was 
Bf6 shirts on YouTube are funny, peeps are discovering it's a battlefield game
Depending on the game a lot
Most notably apex and cod
sadly they need it to be able to kinda keep up. but then its on the game how much of an aimbot it actually is lol.. you know its bad when PC pros start using controllers instead of their usual kbm
Yeah
Aim assist is needed for roller, but 90% of crossplay games have literal aimbot for aim assist
So its basically just roller dominated because of it
the kd between pc and console players in most of the lobbies I have been in on the beta have been pretty even actually
so it's deffo helping
Yeah i haven't had any moments on bf6 where I was likr holy aim assist
Then again there isnt killcams
unless there is a cheater 
So its hard to tell how much the person killing me actually aimed, or how much the aim assist did
there being no killcams hides its also does the game even show the platform? i didnt notice it at all
But I didnt find I was getting absolutely decimated by roller players 24/7
It does
By the name tag when you die it shows a controller logo if they are on console (idk about pc controller)
also the ttk is so quick, i was never able to tell if i got rollered or not. but i also didnt care and never checked
I was having so much fun I wouldn't even have noticed it anyway
Alongside the fact I was sniping 90% of the beta
i did have one idiot crying in one of the lobbies about it tho
lol same, too busy giving teammates res
ye i was having tons of fun as well.. so much so that im not feeling like playing my usual goto fps atm..
support role is pretty fun
My playstyle on battlefield would even further make aim assist hurt me less
As im usually just picking people off with snipers before relocating
I think next beta I'll try controller with ar/smg and see how strong it is
Just so I can know how broken it is or not
why find out that you need to be mad about it lol
let it be and enjoy the game. not like you can change anything about it lol
As a quite decent roller player im still curious to see how strong it is
I personally can't stand aim assist, I hate fighting my aim, BF6 even has mouse aim assist by default, I turned all that shit off
itll always be in the back of your mind and you can be sure youll find out through whiners on reddit
it's not really that broken, plus you can customize it to your liking
It doesnt have mouse aim assist
theres no way they give you aim assist for kbm
The option in the menu is for controller on pc
Its for controller on pc not kbm
defualt though is pretty strong from what I can see. all values are 100 by default
Iirc it was in gameplay not mouse settings tho?
Also never felt any aim assist throughout playing
same
bf settings UX are so giga shit. that must be the worst menu ive seen in my life
It was bothering me and when I turned it off it felt way better so
Which aim assist on kbm feels VERY obvious when its implemented
yeah it's really bad
DICE is aware that people dont like it though
https://i.imgur.com/SGlSZdE.jpeg you mean this?
Perhaps placebo? I believe its only for controller on pc
theres no aim assist options in the mkb section
this only affects controller players iirc
Ah yeah that
not kbm
Not sure, saw others turn it off too and said it felt better so
that shit working on kbm would be a DOA game release
its either placebo or a bug. theres no way they planned on aim assists on mouse lol. thatd be insane
Yeah if it were aa on kbm it would've been widespread by now
I can say with certainty I did not have AA on mnk
Game is also doa tho
Same with halo infinite when they added it
ye that game has more issues than putting aa on mkb. i dont remember. did it also have pvp or only pve?
Nobody likes kbm AA, especially so thr kbmers
ngl theyd be wise to just cancel the game and cut their losses. there is NO way after all that shit that happened that they can turn a profit..
even if it turned out ot be a decent game they have a ton of ill will against them. and perception matters more than facts
Yeah idk forsure but there's a whole reddit thread about it https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1mk7y3w/what_is_wrong_with_aiming_in_bf6
Either way placebo or not, turning off the settings felt better to me
Watched a streamer turn them off on stream cause he was complaining about it too and said it felt better as well
its definitely not impossible but itd be weird for sure
doesnt matter. if its actually happening we will be finding out in time
Yeah
I did notice like a little scope sway when aiming downsights but it's not unbearable.
Yeah if it is a thing, it didn't feel super strong, just felt off/weird
fullscreen and raw aim fixed it for me
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For all the peeps who say BF6 feels like COD
I think people just have amnesia
Good game
also that was what bc2 was
everyone give bf3 all the credit
Bf4 was my introduction so thats my fav
Yeah it was really bc2

more guns, bigger maps etc
Yeah
bf2 was way more "sim" and less arcade
and bc was litteraly a way to make it faster and more fun
and it worked
and it added the best game mode of the entire series, hardcore
so tldr, they remade battlefield 3 but with better graphic and tune down how much you can kill with a single mag.
Could be a bug only affecting some people if thst is the case
wait for hardcore XD
I can say with certainty I had no sort of aa or slow down but that doesnt mean others couldn't have
one tap is the best part of hardcore
Yeah could be
lmao, but it makes covering fire actually worth
yeah and FF is on
Basically
and added a slide
lol
that's nice, maybe this time they can do much bigger map
and even more destruction
since it's now PS5 gen exclusive
Yeah I def wanna play the other maps they have in store
we get a new one next weekend
did 4/5 even have bigger maps than 3?
4 had some big maps, idk about 5
Idk, I only played 4 and 1
and I felt like these 3 maps in the beta were lacking verticality a bit
very CQC focused
it's a big map too!
I hope bf6 doesnt nerf the slide bhopping
pretty sure the tank dlc has the biggest maps in bf
Shit is so fun
yeah Empire State
But i already see battlefield players crying about movement in a battlefield game
oh i guess halvoy is bigger
MuH rEaLiSm
I mean you can't shoot while sliding in BF6 like you can in COD so
but its BR only
Hold on lemme show thr clip of what im talking ab
but Bandar Desert is the largest normal map
I know there's the glitch for infinite slide tho lol and you can shoot while doing that
it is Infantry only but It makes sense for a setting like a big city
Yeah true
This shit is so fun
But its probably getting removed
the sliding mechanic is pretty broken yeah
you can slide and aim downsights lol
Yeah this is some COD shit lol





