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still spire
orchid prism
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Yes - And Nintendo are begging for it on a near daily basis at this point, with how they treat everyone around them.

still spire
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People have been begging for Nintendos downfall for like at least a decade

orchid prism
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But removing Nintendo from the equation, patent hogging is probably one of THE most essential ways to ensure absolutely no innovation happens in gaming.

still spire
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They deserve it

orchid prism
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"We invented a new way to do thing - no one else can do this for a generation now, fuck you"

still spire
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Also Nintendo trademarked the patent like 2 months ago

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Palworld was like January

hardy merlin
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Patents work retroactively? That'd make no sense duck_sip

orchid prism
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Atleast not past a pretty short time limit of releasing something, and then patenting it within a year or so.

hardy merlin
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I bet it's just patent troll lawsuit, like something like "uh... Pal Spheres are circular, too similar to Pokeballs", so they'll just change shape of it and move on
Nintendo just wants to waste their time and money

orchid prism
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They threw a sphere at a creature to capture it - we totally didn't patent that a month ago, for a franchise that's done this for a generation at this point

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Remember having minigames on loading screens? Exactly - Because Capcom patented that shit back in the PS1 era like the locusts they are.

small comet
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are they even doing anything with that lol

hardy merlin
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Wasn't that Namco? I remember playing those while Tekken was loading Think

small comet
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it was bandai

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but apparently its also expired

orchid prism
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Yep that's my bad. Wrong Japanese studio 😄

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Not sure why I remembered Capcom as being the ones who did Ridge Racer.

hardy merlin
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Still, yeah, that's the point, lots of such patents which suck fun out of the world hanaPout

orchid prism
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It is such a perfect example of why patents like this should be prohibited. They don't protect a product in the traditional sense.

narrow epoch
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Can they redo FF14 again from the start like they did before? Why do MMOs still have 742 buttons to press?

orchid prism
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I... I don't know.

narrow epoch
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I think there should be a law against MMOs to have a maximum of 5 spell/skills allocated

orchid prism
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I used like 3 hotbars worth of keys (number row) to have the essentials for any fight.

narrow epoch
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Exactly... shit is dumb Kekw

hardy merlin
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GW2 has a nice balance to it hana_Yes
5 weapon skills, 5 utility skills, 2~4 class-specific skills, that's it

small comet
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i think having to be good at knowing what which spell does and knowing your rotations makes the game better especially when you cant just spam 1 rotation but you have to dynamically switch and adapt

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id be happier if ffxiv finally shortens ARR and all the post expansion quests except the last expansions post quests

narrow epoch
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You don't like the 50 points post-ARR quests?

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Same thing to me as having 2 or 3 hotbars full of spells

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Needlessly extra

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Less is more

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Like this kinda stuff was fun.... 15-20 years ago

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I remember loving EverQuest when I was young Kekw The number of spells on hotbars adds complexity to the game

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But games can be complex in a different way without having 100 buttons to press

pastel bolt
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I had 5 hotbars full of spells and macros in WoW MoP and had no issue with it

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everything keybinded

narrow epoch
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It's not a matter of it being an issue to press the buttons

pastel bolt
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it's a learning curve

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the amount of spells only became an issue because they introduced purchaseable level boosts and it was too much to handle for new players

narrow epoch
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The combat system is like that to add some kind of interaction while you're fighting

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Because it's basically top down and not very immersive otherwise

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Rather than having like a dodging system or whatever in Souls-likes

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Your immersiveness is moving out of a circle on the ground

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And pressing the correct rotations

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The reason for that is because that was the best way to optimise a MMO because hardware wasn't good enough to make it immersive in a real combat style in the first place

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Don't get me wrong I used to love MMOs and love the idea of MMOs, just.... I feel like they're not going to release a real immersive one any time soon and it's sad

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Things like WoW and FF14 are good, just I feel they can do better

pastel bolt
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only thing i want from an mmo is for the classes to feel good to play but havent found such mmo after wow started falling off

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everything is overly simplified now and i find it boring

hardy merlin
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Capcoooom
Say when Wilds releases so I can plan a week off so I can spend it on bed - kitchen - bathroom - game loop with no human interaction bongohana2

pastel bolt
narrow epoch
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It's still going in a similar direction though

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But yeah does look decent

pastel bolt
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at least the devs seem to acknowledge the issues with modern mmos and try to solve them instead of just copying whats popular

solar ridge
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I just wish they didn't use their godawful engine

hardy merlin
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Engine is nice
No matter if you have crap laptop or Top500 supercomputer - 10FPS on Tequatl fight for everyone dogekek

solar ridge
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I just snapped when I got like 40 fps, leveling new toons in the halloween labyrinth

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3080, 5800x, 32gb RAM 'FUCK THIS, THIS IS HORRIBLE'

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Missing skillshots because of that

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Don't get me started on world bosses

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Next slide please

hardy merlin
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Ah, good ol' world bosses...

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Apple party blob_dance

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Would be nice to come back, I left in the middle of EoD
But I don't want to spend 8 hours per day farming again HanaCrying

vital wyvern
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problem solved enjoy 100fps

vital wyvern
hardy merlin
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That's not a good idea, I already promised I'll fix my sleep schedule hanaSusSips
If only my old guild was back together
It was so much fun teaching new players raids duck_bopping

still spire
hardy merlin
still spire
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Look what a good patch can do, no new content at all, just buffs and bug fixes. Arrowhead needs to keep that trend 😛

hardy merlin
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What making actually good balance changes and ignoring whiny babies on Discord can do blobaww

solar ridge
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Only time that an operation health actually helped

vital wyvern
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you can just play a little here and there

hardy merlin
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My brain doesn't work that way neuroStunned
I start playing, 5 minutes later 6 hours passed

vital wyvern
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you can learn catnod

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you have agency and are not a victim of genetics 🧬

hardy merlin
still spire
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What? Absolutely you are. duck_sip

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Bad sleep schedules are genetic

hardy merlin
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Then it has absolutely no sense, because my parents have very normal sleep schedules hanaSusSips

still spire
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Well

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Bad way to find this out, but you're adopted./

hardy merlin
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That is also not true Think

still spire
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And yet it is

ripe tulip
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All linux users are adopted

hardy merlin
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are you my mommy? hanaIsee

ripe tulip
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Yes

hardy merlin
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yay

scarlet marlin
hardy merlin
fading spade
hardy merlin
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Hi Lana bongocatwave

fading spade
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Hewwo ☺️

sinful cobalt
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but those are the best times of my life LOL

fading spade
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It's good
Means you are enjoying the game!

sinful cobalt
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yes

hardy merlin
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I do enjoy game
But my brain is telling me that I could do something else, something useful at the moment cutieCry

sinful cobalt
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idk when im playing i just turn my brain off and trying to have fun

orchid prism
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After Starfield I expect nothing, and I shall still remain disappointed 😄

outer pollen
nimble current
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the elder scrolls series went downhill after morrowind anyways

orchid prism
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The thing is - Starfield was touted to be the next big thing from Bethesda. A new IP to carry the studio for years to come. They spent YEARS on it, and it definitely needed another full year to be anywhere near what they promised and expected.

orchid prism
nimble current
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expecting TOS6 to be another milestone in mediocre gameplay and particularly horrible writing

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and they'll blame the fans for not liking it again

fringe salmon
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reasons to get TES6: probably a better base game to use for mods dogekek

nimble current
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todd refuses to fire their narcissist hackjob of a writer

dusky bolt
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Is Rapit-Trigger and Snappy-tappy still alowed in valorant? Or do i get baned using it?

hardy merlin
fringe salmon
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that would be a good game but not what people expect

vital wyvern
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if I was Bethesda I wouldn't even make a TES VI anymore

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needed to be made 8 years ago, now it's too much hype that it will never ever live up to no matter what

trim rock
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So it's a HL3 situation, aw man

vital wyvern
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definitely a HL3 situation

fringe salmon
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so TES6 needs to be a VR game, got it dogekek

hardy merlin
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Eh, slap some simple main story to it and people will be happy
Starfield failed in the fact, that sure, playable area was huge... and empty
Quests are simple and boring fetch quests, from point A to point B - in Skyrim, while similar, you could stumble upon several different POIs along the way, no such thing in Starfield
And let people do what they want, and not like in SF - "oh sorry, you want to play as a space pirate? Well, you can't land on the planet because you stole a cup, in the jail you go"

novel umbra
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it would be hard to make a bethesda-elder scrolls-esque map that is as bad as starfield

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unless they just give you fast travel everywhere right from the start ig

hardy merlin
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Oh yeah, another idiotic thing in Starfield
You don't have boosters for fast travel? Enjoy hopping through each planet and watching loading screens duck_sip

novel umbra
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the entire travel system just felt like they kept putting on more bandaids

hardy merlin
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Point is - everyone and their mother knows what issues with Starfield are
All Bethesda needs to do is Skyrim 2.0 while avoiding these issues
Given their reputation and "meh, of course it's bugged, it's Bethesda", they can't go wrong with that evilShrug

nimble current
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starfield seems to have finally broken that curse

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only problem is they also removed whatever soul their games used to have toodogekek

silver garden
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The meme finally happened

nimble current
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bullytendo never learn

sinful cobalt
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2nd try ?

novel umbra
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wait what

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apparently over a pokemon sleep patent?

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ok that was just soem reddit guy posting something, but it is a patent lawsuit

hardy merlin
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As for now they only said they're filing a lawsuit, not that they're suing them per se
So it may as well end before it even happened duck_sip

novel umbra
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ok OMEGALUL another speculation was this one https://patents.justia.com/patent/20240286040

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which actually is applicable to palworld, but also like any other game with a mount system

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In an example of a game program, a ground boarding target object or an air boarding target object is selected by a selection operation, and a player character is caused to board the selected boarding target object. If the player character aboard the air boarding target object moves toward the ground, the player character is automatically changed to the state where the player character is aboard the ground boarding target object, and brought into the state where the player character can move on the ground.

silver garden
novel umbra
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yea, software patents are stupid

silver garden
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Well, time to sue every game that has planes out there as well.

nimble current
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yes nintendo thinks they singlehandedly invented video games and all the mechanics involved in them

fringe salmon
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people don't remember Crazy Taxi HUD-arrow patent?

nimble current
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crawl back into your dungeon and work on some new underpowered and dated hardware nintendo

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its what you do best

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and releasing mario and zelda games for another 400 years

fringe salmon
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this arrow was patented from sega up till 5 years ago

still spire
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I really hate patent law

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I get there are many good sides

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But still.

fringe salmon
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it can be easily abused sadly yeah

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just like copyright law, but we do need both

still spire
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Should be a 20 year maximum duration

nimble current
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imagine trying to patent a 3D pointing arrow in the sky

fringe salmon
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well that is when patents expire xD

nimble current
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#justnintendothings

still spire
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Copyright as well

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20 years max, no extension

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5 years max for life saving drugs

fringe salmon
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agreed some should be shorter like medication

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but copyright does have valid reasons to no just be 20 years

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not in every case, but in many

orchid prism
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What gets to be patented in the first place is more of a debate.

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"Arrow floating above car" is such a weak patent idea. It's as if the GPS doesn't exist or something.

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If you can patent that, then there's realistically nothing stopping you from patenting a vaguely stapled together hotchpodge of game mechanics or an entire genre.

fringe salmon
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there's a reason this patent expired 5 years ago because its so old and wouldnt get granted these days anymore

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and its why it was quickly moved on to gps showing up on minimap as a line instead of weird floating arrows

orchid prism
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The Nemesis system?

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That was recent enough, so I don't agree that "wouldn't get granted these days" is particularly valid 😄

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Nintendo/Pokemon Company filed a patent when developing Pokemon Legends: Arceus involving the player moving a crosshair/cursor over a battling character with the control stick to aim a thrown object that can capture them, as well as being able to aim a crosshair/cursor to throw an object in that area that releases a battling creature.

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This sure sounds like something unique and innovative doesn't it? (Heavy sarcasm may be implied)

fringe salmon
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did that get granted or did they just file it

orchid prism
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Just filed.

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The lawsuit that is. Supposedly they sought the patent earlier this year.

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For now it's all speculation until the court gets involved. There's no details about the patents I can find (that is specific numbers you can look up), so this is why most experts say "they're probably reaching", cause it's all so vague.

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But the intent is there - And desperation.

fringe salmon
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you're a few weeks late

orchid prism
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Que?

tranquil salmon
fringe salmon
orchid prism
still spire
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As they should

fringe salmon
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I'm just confused how its not a game setting with people using nullmovement cancel scripts in tf2 since I can remember and probably the same in csgo

novel umbra
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like they have a patent on the ultrahand not being able to lift stuff he stand on top of

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which would not hold up in court, since nuts and bolts had that feature already

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giggle I guess people should just accept that nintendo is becoming increasingly anticompetition and more importantly anticonsumer

orchid prism
novel umbra
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yes, that is the sad reality tho giggle

orchid prism
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When you apply for a patent, that is where the ruling should lie.
It shouldn't be a "well maybe, let's see down the road" wishy washy outcome.

You either have a patent for exactly what you applied for - or it gets rejected.

fringe salmon
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No the patent holds but if it covers something someone else with not enough differentiation is the point for courts usually

quiet vault
orchid prism
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Lazy fucks, but at least they do something

still spire
still spire
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Space Marine 2 lmao

novel umbra
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what

orchid prism
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Bro just admit you're lazy af, and that you cba to mirror all animations.

still spire
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THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH FoV

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Do not shame them. 😛

fading spade
quiet vault
scarlet marlin
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nostalgia money bait

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it will work

quiet vault
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bruh

nimble current
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30th anniversary, thanks sony for reminding me am ancient

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also am pretty sure it launched in 1995 in most markets

fringe salmon
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early access anniversary

heavy gull
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how long until dbrand puts out a skin similar to this lol

digital dawn
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they’re too quick over there

quiet vault
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the cable tho

sudden prawn
buoyant osprey
fringe salmon
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it'll have gta6

buoyant osprey
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Box is great.

fringe salmon
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the color scheme does work great with the design tbf

buoyant osprey
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Wonder how expensive it will be. Non-nostalgia bait PS5 Pro starts at 9 500 NOK here which is $900 USD.

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And at that point I would much rather save up for a pc.

grizzled bramble
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Oh that one is nice

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Are those editions locked behind a giveaway too?

fringe salmon
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no just limited edition and preorders starting in a week

grizzled bramble
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Ok

lucid lava
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They know it’s expensive and need to move units

grizzled bramble
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Just dislike that Logitech made that G502 Alu have to get raffled off in giveaways

buoyant osprey
lucid lava
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Good on sony if it does, making scalpers buy it for them in hopes to flip for a profit

fringe salmon
lucid lava
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PS5 came out now 4 years ago

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1 more year will make it 5

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That’s usually the console cycle

fringe salmon
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wym

grizzled bramble
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Only game I'd probably play is GTA 6 early because of the later PC release lol

fringe salmon
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the usual console cycle is like 8 years

lucid lava
nimble current
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last 4 years is totally going to turn things around!

fringe salmon
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I mean, nothing needed to turn it around, if it just stays on course it's going to be a good generation for sony

drifting rose
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speaking of ancient shit, I just put some vinyl film on this set but it looked way better in my head

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I'mma rip it down and try something else

drifting rose
orchid prism
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Otherwise I dig the look.

drifting rose
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I'll look at it tomorrow with fresh eyes and decide if I still hate it

buoyant osprey
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https://youtu.be/oED47sPS0dQ
'Meets God of War'
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'Can Bioware meet old Bioware instead?'
Yes please.

orchid prism
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So even further removed from the original. Delightful 😄

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That intro is hilariously bad.

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137 FPS on WHAT hardware you nVidia shillfucks! havo

buoyant osprey
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Well. Game might still be better than Inquisition. Idk.

maiden tulip
orchid prism
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I wouldn't either - If Origins was still a series that was continued.

buoyant osprey
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Each release is less of an RPG.

orchid prism
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I don't like this third person, dark souls, rolling around like sonic. I want my pausable tactical RPG back.

maiden tulip
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I prefer the RPG style but oh well what do you wanna do

orchid prism
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Baldur's Gate but real time.

maiden tulip
orchid prism
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It has a place - I just don't want it displacing the genre I loved the game for.

maiden tulip
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If this was a spin off i think i could be better

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What happenned to game devs making spinoffs

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It used to be common

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Nowadays not so mych

orchid prism
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If God of War didn't have a decade long break, people would probably be equally pissed at the severe genre change to what it is now.

maiden tulip
buoyant osprey
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12:39 in the vid looks just like an MMO.

maiden tulip
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Problem is i like varying genres of games I play anything from strategy to jrpg to action games to racing games to shooters

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I have preferences but I don't dislike any particular genre except puzzlers

orchid prism
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Anyway... I am just so tired of Bioware these days. I don't wish failure on Veilguard, but I'd be lying if I wasn't excessively dissapointed in the series progression and the studio as a whole.

maiden tulip
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I just hope they don't fuck up mass effect 4

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._.

buoyant osprey
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They are absolutely a shadow of their former selves.

orchid prism
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Too late. They already did.

maiden tulip
maiden tulip
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I'll say

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Andromeda had good combat

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At least

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The only redeeming thing

drifting rose
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"my face is tired"

pastel bolt
buoyant osprey
drifting rose
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I couldn't believe how much hype there was initially about the SH2 remake
remaking a great game that still holds up?
made by walking simulator peddlers?
BOOOO

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then the trailer hit to a collective "oh" and I feel vindicated

gusty oar
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still turn 1

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i didn’t even go yet rofl

buoyant osprey
drifting rose
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if it's great in its own right - that would be the best outcome
if it sucks so hard it becomes entertainment - I'd be fine with that too

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but the most boring outcome is the likely scenario imo

buoyant osprey
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These are the character backgrounds you can choose in DA4.

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And they are all goodie two shoes sadly.

buoyant osprey
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Every one is you defeating someone evil or rescuing someone. Why not one that is a bit more neutral?

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Even the assassin one has you rescuing people. dogekek

buoyant osprey
old zephyr
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guys where can i check for 80 HE profiles?

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for csgo specifically

orchid prism
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You kind of... don't? Cause they've only been shipping out for a couple of days.

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Look for some 60HE profiles and see what kind of settings people are using.

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New Nintendont lawsuit lore dropped

fringe salmon
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thats one of their patents but is there any hint thats the one they allege was infringed upon?

solemn zealot
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I remember reading a post from Palword on X today that their still investigation the lawsuit that Nintendo gave them, IMHO Palworld is more fun than any of the NEW Pokemon games

orchid prism
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No not really. Until facts come out, it's all speculation from people digging through anything Nintendo patented.

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Even the Palword Devs have said they weren't told what they supposedly infringed on specifically yet

fringe salmon
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yeah I saw this one described someone so wasnt sure if you meant we now know its related or not

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I'm just surprised its based on patents and not copyrighted works

solemn zealot
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Lets hope Palword isnt gonna get removed from the stores because their game is simply better than the new pokemon games

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Nintendo in general is really greedy when it comes to lawsuits and patents etc

orchid prism
fringe salmon
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well there was something that looked like they might have ripped off some models and basically just scaled them differently

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but I never cared enough about the game to look into that

digital dawn
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yeah but they're suing for a patent so realistically none of that matter in this case

fringe salmon
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yeah hence my surprise about that

solemn zealot
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Nintendo being Nintendo

orchid prism
digital dawn
orchid prism
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I suppose tine will tell. My anti Nintendo bias is obvious, and I pray they lose this hard and well. Hell if it is refused by the court, that's even better.

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Tine? Tine.

digital dawn
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tine

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unfortunately japanese laws, especially patent laws, can be quite funky at times

fringe salmon
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never played the game but my only grip with palworld has always been how some aspects were clearly copied as close as they could from toher games instead of just taking inspiration, but as long as they didnt actually clone some stuff that's still fine

digital dawn
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im pretty sure a few assets here and there are just straight up ripped from or directly modeled after pokemon assets. disappointing to say the least.

orchid prism
fringe salmon
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no it's an obvious difference if you look at two games and see if the sun wukong they use is inspired by the original monkey king or from the other game lol

orchid prism
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Nintendo have had over a decade to provide demanding fans with something similar.

fringe salmon
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it's not just nintendo

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when I first saw a screenshot with UI I thought it was from Ark dogekek

orchid prism
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Taking game concepts from other games isn't a crime.

And most of the games it borrows from were nowhere near original to begin with.

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Something something Overwatch and LoL.

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Something something moba and an FPS.

fringe salmon
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yes but my point is if you see for example ninetails in pokemon and think thats cool and make your own ninetails insipried by the japanese myth thats normal and cool

digital dawn
# orchid prism So many games do this.

im not sure if its been done to quite this extent before though. like its very clearly directly ripping off existing pokemon with almost no changes or creativity. like they for sure could have been more creative in the design process and could've come up with something actually original.

fringe salmon
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but if you think it's cool and copy the design from nintendos ninetails and pretend its original just has the same inspiration thats lame

rancid hearth
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I mean tbh, you can only make so many animal "creatures" before you start getting into lookalikes

orchid prism
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There's over a THOUSAND Pokémon designs. And the vast majority of them are not original at all - in fact a ton of them are suspect inspirations from other IPs.

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Which was brought up when Palworld was accused dogekek

digital dawn
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theres a difference between "oh hey we made a similar design off a similar concept thats so crazy wow" and "yeah im just gonna take this thank you very much"

fringe salmon
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nobody is saying lynch them if one of them dares to look similar, but if digimon and pokemon can coexist and none of them look like they are form the other genre you can do the same in palworld

orchid prism
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Anyhow. Not what this suit is about whatsoever.

I am hopeful that Nintendo eats humble pie, and maybe reconsider if they should sue anyone just cause they have the power and money to do so.

Arbitrary lawsuits are very telling.

rancid hearth
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I mean, just take a look at digimon

fringe salmon
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well, I'm waiting to see what they claim was infringed, even if its likely it's bogus, not like there is no chance to have legit claims

orchid prism
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Legitimate in the eyes of the mafia law perhaps. Not morally or to the benefit of the people.

fringe salmon
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no I mean morally legitimate

gusty oar
orchid prism
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Time will indeed tell.

verbal nymph
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Umu, some drama to enjoy

outer pollen
deft bloom
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GAME

nimble current
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new helldivers 2 patch is pretty fire

outer pollen
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They cooked so fucking hard OG Broly and Cooler!

nocturne wraith
tranquil salmon
fringe salmon
nocturne wraith
nocturne wraith
fringe salmon
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Performance idk because I upgraded my pc so it runs very well but crashes have always been improving

cyan pewter
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first game on spectre, its pretty fun 👍

dreamy rain
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pepenerd i think ive seen that link before

still spire
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Nah

nimble current
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a week ago it was choppier

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will be testing some 9 and 10 missions tonight

still spire
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Helldivers 2 performance is worse if anything

orchid prism
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Oh boy. Factorio's gone full Dune.

Factorio

Hello, Welcome back to Vulcanus. It's been a while. You place your new prototype big mining drills, the pinnacle of resource extraction technology, on the closest tungsten deposit to your fledging Vulcanus factory. A few power poles later and they are happily mining away providing a new consistent source of valuable tungsten. A rail ramp an...

sage crypt
still spire
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Yep

sage crypt
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@errant edge My issue with val, one round is like this

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Idk how to fix, only val and ftn have issue with my isp

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Cs 2 good

fallow bronze
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unlike thje worms on star citizen -_-

orchid prism
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Store Citizen has worms?

fallow bronze
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one teaser video had a worm

proper basin
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Wormy

still spire
drifting rose
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re-did the fake wood foil, looks way better now

nimble current
still spire
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Final Fantasy 16 has arrived on PC - and let's just say that it's a demanding game. Built with dynamic resolution scaling in mind on PS5-class hardware, it's a port that pushes PC hard if you stick to fixed resolutions. Alex and Oliver share notes on the game, then move onto the optimised settings and PS5 equivalents put together by contributor ...

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grizzled bramble
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It's finally time to play this game!

silver garden
still spire
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I mean it is a next gen showpiece

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The stuff it renders in real time is nuts

silver garden
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As one wise man once said

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"You call it next gen, I call it last week".

still spire
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lol

fringe salmon
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Sounds like a stupid man

still spire
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So there's no reason to not use max settings from this video

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The difference is between 1-3%

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While looking quite abit worse.

silver garden
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As most games these days. for some reason.

fringe salmon
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I do hope from the feedback they give some more options on the next patch like they did on console

still spire
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Yeah they'll keep tweaking no doubt

fringe salmon
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like when they added motion blur slider on ps5 that I hope they do add option to toggle cutscene fps and such

still spire
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For now, we've got FFXVI Fix

silver garden
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The fact that they got a game with 2010 graphics to run this poorly tells me there is no hope there from the start.

fringe salmon
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yeah I'm just waiting for the patch instead

still spire
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2010 graphics?

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Lmao

silver garden
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Yeah somewhere in that bullpark

fringe salmon
silver garden
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No.

fringe salmon
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pc version can do with some more optimization definitely but some of these parts they do in real time you dont find in any last gen console at all

small comet
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i wanna see a game from 2010 with those graphics

still spire
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The cutscenes that are rendered in real time are of insanely high quality.

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And that is when the GPU performance suffers the most

fringe salmon
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we're still not at the part where you can do same quality of pre rendered and ingame cutscenes but the differene in this game is such a good look for how far we have come in that area

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also I wish twitch would just hurry up with AV1 encoded streams so the bitrate isnt killed for every streamer that plays it lol

silver garden
still spire
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Bioshock 2? lmao what

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I just repalyed that, so I can really say

small comet
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what settings are you playing on lol

still spire
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It's nowhere near close

silver garden
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PC maximum obviously

fringe salmon
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buddy what

small comet
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bioshock2 on ultra and ffxvi on lowest?

silver garden
fringe salmon
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thats from the store page

deft bloom
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lmao

still spire
silver garden
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So that's a yes then

deft bloom
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so delusional

fringe salmon
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bioshock 2 lighning vs ff16

still spire
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Here it is being played at maxed settings with ini tweaks to push it to the limit

silver garden
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I am trying to find examples but of course Google forgot that Bioshock 2 original ever existed and so every bloody footage is from the remaster.

still spire
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...lol

small comet
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ah ofc the original looked better

fringe salmon
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right, forgot in 2011 the deep state took over and remastered every game so the quality went down

still spire
deft bloom
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only options here are to admit defeat or double down, of course he chose the latter

small comet
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tbf minecraft is quite close to ffxvi. and it came out around 2010

proper basin
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reminds me i need to get a nice shader

silver garden
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Tbh they look borderline identical so i guess remaster footage will do too

small comet
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are we talking like using an 800x600 crt or smth

fringe salmon
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the human eye can only see 24pixels a second so its like 4x4 probably

small comet
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ah

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forgot

ripe tulip
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Minimal amount of artifacts

small comet
silver garden
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https://youtu.be/XvpIiejrw70?si=ZoQhOC8w03T4n3GR&t=316

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small comet
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lol no

deft bloom
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"pretty good", alright, still not nearly as good as ff16

small comet
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that looks exactly like what was shared before

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lol

still spire
deft bloom
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textures are shit, models are low-poly, well yeah looks like a game from 2010

fringe salmon
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you can count the pixels in the flame effects, yeah definitely same visuals as ff16

silver garden
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I would argue that lighting and tonemapping is better than in FF16. FF16 has the usual problems of being too bright in areas that should be dark. And honestly that is bloody annoying how every single game these days has the exact same issues.

fringe salmon
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if you run it in hdr on an sdr screen maybe

still spire
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Use HDR perhaps? duck_sip

deft bloom
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oh my.

fringe salmon
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the hdr in the game is quite nice

small comet
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i enjoyed it so far aswell

ashen lark
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The one thing I disliked about a lot of games graphics is when they tried to make a realistic texture for terrain or walls but then it would be too much work to give it a depth map so it was just flat, looks much worse than even low poly lower res texture if it is 3D

small comet
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good lighting in every scene ive seen

still spire
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The games lighting is where it shines, pun intended

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None of it is raytraced either

proper basin
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every time i hear of ff16 i think of that "i need a hero" video of the final boss lol

ripe tulip
silver garden
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Is there a free demo of the game? I could try using HDR.

fringe salmon
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yes

silver garden
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Alright will give it a crack later today

fringe salmon
fringe salmon
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it does have native support for HDR screenshots though

still spire
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And make sure to grab this, constantly being updated

proper basin
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ill try the demo, can grab an hdr screenshot

fringe salmon
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the second dlc on final fantasy difficulty in ng+ was quite a challenge lol

still spire
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I mean the game is notoriously easy

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So NG+ having actual difficutly is impressive 😛

fringe salmon
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leviathan doesnt fuck around haha

silver garden
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I despise this DF way of thinking.

fringe salmon
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I can’t help you if your eyes are just at 10% sight and it looks the same to you

silver garden
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"technologies" don't mean shit if they cost so much compute power and provide so little in return.

small comet
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so we shouldnt innovate?

silver garden
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No, not in this direction.

fringe salmon
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And if you would have read what I said I say it doesn’t cost much compute power, it’s kept low so there is more gpu budget for other parts

silver garden
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You know what was a good innovation

fringe salmon
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Prescription glasses?

novel umbra
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DANG you know, it is REALLY hard to make a game stand out visually at this point

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which is why I appreciate it when some company manages to do it

silver garden
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DX12 and Vulkan for example. They allowed developers to cram absurd amount of geometry with it having much less impact on performance and being able to scale across more threads than it was possible with previous APIs.

small comet
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oh thats the one bioshock2 uses right

silver garden
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Did I ever say that?

fringe salmon
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Have you ever written one like of shader code

silver garden
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No. have you?

fringe salmon
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Yes

small comet
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lol

heavy gull
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lol

buoyant osprey
small comet
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quin has prob more gamedev experience than most here

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unvoluntarily more

ripe tulip
novel umbra
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like as badly implemented as the UE5 stuff is, it does look a TON better

silver garden
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Cool, now what?
He may be the best developer out ther but he cannot deny what other people have accomplished in the past.

novel umbra
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and they can still get around to impoving and optimizing them

fringe salmon
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But I can tell you don’t understand what dx12/vulkan do lol

novel umbra
silver garden
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I am not an expert on those things but i have also yet to see a DX11 game with Doom Eternal's levels of geometric complexity that can run at 300+ FPS on a modern CPU.

fringe salmon
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you do understand shaders compiled to directx run on the gpu not cpu?

novel umbra
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How is that even related

silver garden
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Yes. I was not even talking about shaders?

fringe salmon
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what do you think dx11 is or does

small comet
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lol

silver garden
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Translates game code to the GPU for it to do stuff.

small comet
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imma grab popcorn at this point

novel umbra
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Also idk about eternal, but wasn't doom 4 like THE vulkan game?

silver garden
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yes, same things apply there.

fringe salmon
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so now tell me how a collection for api's to do tasks on a gpu relates to what framerates a cpu can do

silver garden
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I thought it was common knowledge that DX12 and Vulkan can handle draw calls better than DX11 and prior unless the game is coded by monkeys. Or am I missing something?

ripe tulip
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Embrace vulkan guys. Forget about directx

fringe salmon
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drawcalls isn't the end of all things

small comet
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embrace bitbanging. forget about apis

silver garden
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Well it's the end of most things. Unless we are talking about games with 6 gazillion NPCs on screen at once, draw calls is what takes up the most CPU resources every single time.

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Have yet to encounter a game that behaved differentely ofc asuming no GPU bottleneck.

fringe salmon
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how did you profile the cpu cycles to come to that conclusion

silver garden
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And so even with very basic DX12 implementations... if you launch a random UE4 game that was natively built on DX11 and force it to run on DX12, you will get more FPS if you are not GPU bound.

silver garden
small comet
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that doesnt even answer the question

silver garden
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that wasn't my intention either.

fringe salmon
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I mean if a question is answered with a question about something else there isn't a point to continue

fallow bronze
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there wasnt anyway :p

fringe salmon
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well I was taking a shit and shit takes go hand in hand

buoyant osprey
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God of Poop Ragnarok has forced TAA. SwitchyCry
Gonna be unplayably blurry and ugly for me.

silver garden
ripe tulip
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Pretty sure like all nixxes ports have TAA by default

fallow bronze
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what other AA would you like to see in 2024?

silver garden
ripe tulip
silver garden
ripe tulip
buoyant osprey
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I am an AA off enjoyer. But also SMAA.

drifting rose
fallow bronze
silver garden
drifting rose
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DLSS -> supersampling -> nvidia DSR when all else fails 4 me

silver garden
fringe salmon
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SMAA if it works with the performance budget, CMAA is a nice mix and if it has to be TAA the DLSS/FSR TAA components are good unlike unreal or nixes TAA in house solutions

drifting rose
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SMAA looks same as FXAA to me

fringe salmon
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well it does kinda work like it so that tracks

silver garden
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SMAA varies heavily depending on implementation.

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in some cases (like Overwatch) it does nothing at all.

buoyant osprey
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Who doesn't love a blurry muddy image? I sure do!

drifting rose
buoyant osprey
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It's sad going from an ancient 20 year old game where everything looks sharp then boot up Cyberpunk and everything looks like you're looking at it from under a layer of ice.

silver garden
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Hey, on the bright side you can save a lot of money by not buying new games dogekek

drifting rose
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to my mind AA never was better than SGSSAA

buoyant osprey
fallow bronze
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msaa best

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but not realistic with todays geometry

silver garden
proper basin
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HDR off on the left, HDR on the right using the ff16 demo

silver garden
drifting rose
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SGSSAA was a bug in the nvidia driver that was left in as a feature after people realized it looked good, sparse grid supersampling

fringe salmon
silver garden
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Hmm yeah I heard about it.

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But it's so rare it will be hard to judge how well it does.

fringe salmon
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it shows both as jpg files so idk if it keeps the extended range

drifting rose
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only worked on DX9 games for over a decade or so UNTIL THIS YEAR, when a PC port of some weeb game shipped it officially, which is fucking weird to me

silver garden
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mhm

drifting rose
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the port of said weeb game was made by the guy who made DSfix all those years ago

silver garden
proper basin
silver garden
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I wanna try it on my secondary PC with plenty of DX9 games I have.

ripe tulip
proper basin
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ill see what i can do to fix that

ripe tulip
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Well other formats too but

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Those are the main formats for windows

drifting rose
fringe salmon
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jxr is supported as screenshot type in the game

silver garden
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Ughh nvidia profile inspector is the one thing I never touched. Oh well, guess we are goin on an adventure this weekend.

ripe tulip
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Life saver

drifting rose
silver garden
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Does it work on Unreal Engine 3?

buoyant osprey
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Why is SGSSAA never used? Performance heavy?

drifting rose
silver garden
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Probably a relic from the past that everyone forgot. Like stencil shadows.

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Better than RT but nobody uses it anymore.

drifting rose
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why it was never used I dunno

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it technically was used in july this year, 10 years after it stopped being feasible lol

silver garden
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fringe salmon
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SGSSAA needs extra info from any game taht uses deferred rendering which is basically all games these days for better light/transparency which is also why MSAA has become less common

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thats why its still great options in stylized games like whatever anime game it was that recently had it since you dont really touch much transparency or PBR light in those

ripe tulip
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In almost every new game I play, I just use DLAA if nothing else is available at this point

silver garden
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to confirm, it works on new nvidia drivers?

silver garden
drifting rose
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I'd be surprised if they took it out

silver garden
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What's up with some flags having multiple AA methods asigned to them?

drifting rose
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I think those are instructions telling the driver what to AA and what not

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so some games have multiple bits that work for them

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I'll try SGSSAA on F.E.A.R to see if it still works

silver garden
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@drifting roseIt does work but calling it heavy would be an understatement havo

drifting rose
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I only had a 60hz display when I used it lawl

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but I remember 4X being the best compromise

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also do negative LOD bias, it helps with textures in a lot of games

silver garden
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Unfortunately doesn't work together with DXVK

drifting rose
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naw not unless someone puts it into DXVK... the chances are less than zero somehow lol

ripe tulip
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👁️ 👄 👁️

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Well it was on games that are just locked to 60 anyways

calm rune
#

Are games color graded/corrected for OLED?

buoyant osprey
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I assume they are colour graded for accuracy regardless of display tech.

fringe salmon
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yeah

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if its accurate its accurate

drifting rose
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phew, I feared my eyes would turn to toilet bowls

silver garden
# drifting rose I still love how it looks!

I agree it does look good. However I think the performance impact is just way too much. It's about the same as using 4x DSR. Which seems to still produce slightly sharper result.
I think with SGSAA some specular detail is still lost in the process. And ofc the fact that it blocks DXVK and potentially reshade when DSR doesn't.

drifting rose
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FPS in FEAR go from 500 to 470 for me. this is not a thorough test at all, and that's on 8X

silver garden
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🤔

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What GPU and resolution are you on?

drifting rose
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1920x1080 on a 3080 12GB

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I could test it on my CRT for laughs

silver garden
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Yeah you are probably still edging on the CPU bottleneck.

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I am at 3440x1440 on 3080 10GB

drifting rose
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I can simulate a higher display resolution with DSR

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in fact I'll do that now, for lolz

ripe tulip
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I can’t use DSR due to DSC

drifting rose
drifting rose
silver garden
ripe tulip
drifting rose
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oh fug

ripe tulip
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Lol

dreamy rain
drifting rose
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well played sony
I am for real getting one of those controllers

quiet vault
silver garden
fallow bronze
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ah bf1 was fun

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flawed, but fun

orchid prism
#

BUTTER HAS BEEN CAPTURED

proper basin
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WE HAVE TAKEN OBJECTIVE FREDDY

drifting rose
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I finally found my darling

fallow bronze
#

I'm enjoying myself quite a bit with playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat again

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It Def shows it's age but very playable

tough jay
#

Should play it too sometime, only one of the stalker games I never finished.

drifting rose
#

ermahgerd I never get tired of turning my dudes into action figures and having them blast aliens

pearl tree
#

does tachyon mode actually benefit gaming>'

fallow bronze
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On 80he? Nah

pearl tree
#

60he+

fallow bronze
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maybe

pearl tree
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wym maybe

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is it like gaem dependant?

fringe salmon
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it benefits but it's miniscule

pearl tree
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how do i add a rgb effect preset

grizzled bramble
#

GOW : Ragnarök has been running very good, played for 7hrs+ and had 1 crash

grizzled bramble
compact oriole
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this guys videos are so good

outer pollen
orchid prism
fallow bronze
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Oh wow. That's quite a lot of dlc and game hours

drifting rose
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holy BASED

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"your progress against the aliens has been significant, commander, but there is still room to improve"
man FUCK YOU

fringe salmon
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hey no bad talking the best man in the game

drifting rose
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lidl agent 47 don't know SHIT

fringe salmon
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he may be harsh but he's allowed to do that with the ending

outer pollen
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@proper basin Cool song dance

cold anvil
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Yoo the God of War ragnorok pc port is so well optimized

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I can run 4k 60 with dlss on quality on my 3070!!!!!!

buoyant osprey
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What rez?

fringe salmon
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I mean I would hope a ps4 game can do that lol

buoyant osprey
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Oh wait 4k

fringe salmon
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but nice to know still

buoyant osprey
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So 1440p

cold anvil
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Cyberpunk was on the ps4

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Doesnt mean it ran great

fringe salmon
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I mean cyberpunk also runs the same or better than that on a 3070 xD

cold anvil
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My 3070 shat itself trying to run 4k max settings dlls on auto with raytracing and oath tracing off

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This was a week ago

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And i have good specs to compliment my gpu

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Not good enough that my gpu is the bottle neck but good enough for my gpu and future upgrades

fringe salmon
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thats from launch so I would assume it should be better now?

cold anvil
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Damn hold on… maybe i did something wrong

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Time to redownload and run more benchmarks i did something wrong

green dune
#

So Subnautica in VR has a really big problem: you can't see the entire UI.

deft bloom
#

what if you turn your head

green dune
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The UI is static.

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Using my eyes doesn't work because it's outside of the area of the screens.

deft bloom
#

no I didn't tell you to use your eyes, head!

still spire
hushed lance
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@orchid prism Hi! My order is being prepared to ship. It showed"Queued for Fulfillment". What's"Chinese Address" mean?It is just to fill in Chinese or Chinese PinYin?I only filled in the Chinese characters instead of the Chinese pinyin, will this affect the delivery of my order?Why does my delivery estimate keep getting pushed back by a day every day?Does this have anything to do with my Chinese address?

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Who can help me please 😦

narrow epoch
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Cool game

unkempt ocean
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as you can see the END of the estimate doesnt change

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it just is narrowing it down every day

hushed lance
unkempt ocean
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also ur address thing is likely fine

hushed lance
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So I should be patient and wait, right?

unkempt ocean
#

ye

hushed lance
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thank you bro@unkempt ocean

outer pollen
#

@scarlet marlin waawaawhaa

still spire
outer pollen
ripe tulip
still spire
nimble current
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but yes, I am laughing at sony

nimble current
fringe salmon
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They didn’t change anything about heat generation with less than 4 people did they? That’s the biggest issue I have when doing solo or duo missions

fading spade
#

ok, shes so cute

nimble current
bleak pike
nimble current
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furry? she just has a weird skin color

fringe salmon
#

Hate how everyone is running with the 400million number when as far as I can tell nobody knows where that guy on his podcast got it from

fading spade
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That aint furry

fading spade
nimble current
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ah yes someone

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we all know a someone

fading spade
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this guy at the start

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I said someone cause I have not heard of them before but they have a lot of subscribers

scarlet marlin
fringe salmon
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Yeah as I said, nobody knows what the number entails or how the guy on his podcast verified it

drifting rose
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400 mil can't be real, no way

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as much fun as it is to crap on a game entirely conceived by a boardroom of the most unimaginative people in the business, I just don't buy it

nimble current
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I mean it wouldn't surprise me that much

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the game was allegedly in development for like what, 8 years?

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and we know how these cokehead excecs loves to throw money at a problem thinking that's all it takes to solve it

drifting rose
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4 million per month? naaaaw

fringe salmon
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5 years ago the team was 10 people

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they werent on it for 8 years with 100

nimble current
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I was gonna say marketing, but then I membered sony barely did any of that for the game havo

fringe salmon
#

so like, is it possible it was 200mil in marketing and wrongly allocated budget and shit? possible but hard to imagine

drifting rose
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judging from the pfp, he was the character designer

nimble current
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did they market it in japan only or

drifting rose
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they did the opposite than what they did with no man's sky, that game was all promotion and no dev budget

fringe salmon
#

I only see two options, one is the number is just completely false
the other is that they barely had anything and had to outsurce everything on extra costs to present something to act like the game had more than it did and thus needing insane budget

drifting rose
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I lean towards the former, 400 million is youtubers farming clicks

nimble current
#

outsourcing some aspects of the development would make some sense in explaining the cost yeah

fringe salmon
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not some but most/all

nimble current
#

but yeah big number draws attention

fringe salmon
#

because lets say 200 mil went to marketing, you still cant hire enough people and get them to work on anything in 2 years or whatever to burn through 200mil and it clearly started as a tiny team without much money

vapid lintel
#

Let's start a rumor that sony execs embezzled it

fringe salmon
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mark this is sony, not samsung

drifting rose
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100 million fell behind the couch lol sorry

proper basin
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I ate 200 million of the budget

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I was hungry

outer pollen
outer pollen
severe compass
#

A lot of the budget was apparently spent on animations and motion capture

trim rock
#

Yeah for the weekly cutscenes

green dune
#

Imagine spending stupid amounts of money on a game and not spending any on advertising or market research.

#

Sounds like it was always meant to game the tax system.

#

Have the Switch emulators gotten to a point where you can reasonably use them on the Steam Deck? Last time I tried the performance was pretty bad.

maiden tulip
green dune
#

Scalie.

fading spade
warped plume
#

tjoo

green dune
#

I wonder when there's going to be an Android one that requires toot.

outer pollen
green dune
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Last time I tried Xenoblade Chronicles 2 it wasn't great, but that was before the OLED came out.

proper basin
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Xenoblade 2 suffers from having terrible tutorials dogekek

severe compass
# green dune Scalie.

Not that either
She looks like an Elf, which is about as vanilla as you can get on the human to xenophilia ratio

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I think it's safe to say that Concord played it way too safe with its alien designs
I legit thought all of them were meant to be human

fading spade
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Why TF does my keyboard think I wanna type D? Xd

vapid lintel
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It wants the D

proper basin
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D smile

fading spade
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Wtf xd

sinful cobalt
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D

severe compass
severe compass
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She doesn't even have shark teeth, I don't know if she has a tail but I havn't seen one yet. Her defining features are pointy ears and funny skin
She's an elf

green dune
fading spade
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Yeah, but if you still have the AppImage on your system, it still works just fine

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I still have my modded Mariokart instance using it

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and its still added to my Steam Library like a regular steam game

green dune
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Is there a good way to copy carts over Wi-Fi? When I tried USB before it didn't work very well.

fading spade
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ive sent many files over KDE Connect

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Which is already built into Deck since its using Plasma desktop

green dune
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Is there a Switch thing that even has that implemented?

fading spade
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huh?

green dune
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I want to copy the games instead of doing it illegally.

fading spade
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The only way to get games from your Switch is to jailbreak it and make a ROM backup

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But jailbreaking a Switch is illegal in the eyes of Nintendo

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Even if you use a MIG Switch ROM Dumper, you still need the keys from your actual Switch, which also requires it to be jailbroen

green dune
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It's legal in the eyes of the law and I already installed a mod chip years ago. If I need to use a normal computer it's whatever I guess.

fading spade
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The emulators still need the Switch Firmware and title and prod keys from a Switch

green dune
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Which you just grab from the Switch yes.

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But if I need to use another computer in between that's annoying but fine.

fading spade
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Yeah, if its modded

green dune
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But there's no like, HTTP/FTP server that let's you just copy the cart over?

ripe tulip
bleak pike
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Furry

green dune
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Oh yeah I guess.

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Gotta let more artists make fan art I guess.

nimble current
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too late, r34 artists all fawning over valves gargoyle girl now

fading spade
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who?

trim rock
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Yeah Concord doesn't really have a lot of R34 desire

candid sentinel
pure bear
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its the future of playstation guys

nimble current
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just buy the anniversary edition and be happy

buoyant osprey
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Character proportions in DA4 are bad and weird looking...

bleak pike
zenith cypress
maiden tulip
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WANT ME TO SHOW YOU FURRIES?

trim rock
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Do it, what could possibly happen

hearty plank
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no

fading spade
zenith cypress
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oh it looks like my keyboard

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from my phone

fading spade
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Yes
Gboard looks the same on any phone pretty much xd

cedar cipher
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Does anybody tested wooting in rust ?

fringe salmon
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it works?

cedar cipher
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Yes

fringe salmon
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idk what you mean with testing

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its a keyboard, it works with any game

zenith cypress
fringe salmon
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its a keyboard, it always works with a game that uses keyboards

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and the features are on the board not in the game

pure bear
orchid prism
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You will own nothing et cetera

buoyant osprey
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Xbox doing a good job of being the least appealing console.

maiden tulip
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My ps4 had those

buoyant osprey
maiden tulip
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I mean i booted it up recently and there was a huge ass apex legends ad lol

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A game i dont even have installed

orchid prism
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And I would immediately sell one if it did 😄

maiden tulip
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Oh they've been arounda while

fringe salmon
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something on the side you can ignore or not even notice is very different from a fullscreen popup you have to interact with

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ideally want neither

maiden tulip
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But ywah you dont have to hit a close button on ps4

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That ur right about

fringe salmon
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but if it forces you to interact and you cant just do the regular way to open your game or whatever it's extra ass

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bc that takes up my time and I dont want that

maiden tulip
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I'll say pressing down on the dpad to leave the apex legends ad on ps4 and pressing close on xbox

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1 vs 2 button interaction both still suck

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But yes xbox will take more time

fringe salmon
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never had it happen on my ps5 but also didnt use it that much tbf

buoyant osprey
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I've heard Discord has ads now?

maiden tulip
green dune
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Hasn't it had ads for a while now?

pure bear
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they ruined yt embedds thats for sure

nimble current
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yep rip youtube embeds

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another victim of googles relentless adwhoring

outer pollen
digital dawn
ripe tulip
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What happened to yt embeds

digital dawn
digital dawn
ripe tulip
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Yucky

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Well I never really look at them anyways

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Must be really desperate ever since covid happened

still spire
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Nintendo isn't

mortal linden
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Nintendon't have fun.

ripe tulip
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well there's only 3 total lol

still spire
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No I mean, Nintendo really doesn't lol

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Nintendo ironically is one of the reasons emulation is so strong today. They tried super hard to squash it in its infancy, so hard the courts took notice

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And emulation has an almost weirdly protected status, them and Bleem with Sony

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Really backfired on them

small comet
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speaking of efficiency in another channel... @vapid lintel did you see the new straight mode for building conveyors in satisfactory 1.0?

vapid lintel
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Yes it's delightful

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I don't know what is new and what isn't because I'm new, but there's loads of little QOL things that aren't immediately obvious

small comet
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well i can tell you that conveyors before 1.0 were a pain cause it was a lot of prebuilding conveyor poles for nice angles

vapid lintel
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Two that I found yesterday are

  • When you're dismantling things, you can highlight an item and press G to add it to the dismantle filter, allowing you to only dismantle that kind of item
  • If you first place a pipeline junction (which snaps to grid) you can then align a water extractor perfectly
small comet
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yes

vapid lintel
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I really wish you could designate a build as blueprint though, instead of having to create it in the blueprint builder first

small comet
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yeah like a select and then blueprintify

vapid lintel
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Exactly

fallow bronze
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Yeah.. Building repetitive things needs blueprints.. And it's quite a hassle to build in 3d

heavy gull
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i think that’s the default bind for it

vapid lintel
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Yea that's a huge timesaver too 😄

drifting rose
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volvo could be porting Proton to arm

small comet
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also pretty sure scim is broken for 1.0

fallow bronze
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Copy pasting is very nice in shapez2

fading spade
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......

trim rock
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And yet again a reminder to just turn that dumb feature off

ripe tulip
trim rock
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Yeah, only really stings a bit for some games since reencoded movie files are included in the shader blobs. Luckily Proton GE is just a few clicks away

fringe salmon
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idk even know what the pic is supposed to show lol

proper basin
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shader precache i think

fringe salmon
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ah

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..16 hours after that screenshot was taken..

proper basin
novel umbra
fringe salmon
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bold of you to assume it gets played at all

digital dawn
digital dawn
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like it’s not good but it’s fine

silver garden
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Tried Deadlock today. Uninstalled after 10 minutes. Somehow the game is even worse than i expected it to be.

deft bloom
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not even going to bother to try, I saw in a second that it's not a game for me

silver garden
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Good choice. Funnily enough a bunch of people on another server told me to try it and I asked them what makes it a good game. None of them could answer that.

digital dawn
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what makes it so bad?

deft bloom
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some people like it for sure, nothing wrong with that. I just don't like the valorant-ass artstyle, 3rd person view, moba-like gameplay, special skills and boring looking maps

digital dawn
deft bloom
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yeah of course the final product will have more stuff in it, but here's how I look at it as it is now

fringe salmon
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art is very much not final yet, its because it was more cyberpuk stuff and they moving to a more occult kinda look

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like this is current yamato and concept of future model rework

deft bloom
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still looks like a cartoon which is not appealing to me

silver garden
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Well starting with the graphics it has the "poop" color pallete as i like to call it. Everything is brown and grey with low amount of details.
And despite the graphics being about as good as TF2, the game somehow runs poorly even on my RTX 3080. Getting about 180 FPS at 3440x1440 on lowest settings.

The gameplay. Unbearably high TTK with no clear readability on whether your abilities are even doing something. For example an enemy bebop was at 10% health. I was chasing him and landing constant headshots as Warden. He for some reason stopped taking damage and then hooked me under his tower and dropped me from 100% to 0% in under 2 seconds.
Movement is very slow, the map is minecraft flatworld with a bunch of cover placed in some areas. Reloading is unbearably slow which further brings the game down to a crawl. And the game doesn't even work as a slow games because I did not find any cool tactical abilties or gear you can use there to make the game more versitile.

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Oh and almost forgot. You cannot pick the hero you want to play.

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And you know what else. Why are you asking what makes a game bad? A game is bad by default until you start doing things that makes it good. That goes for anything really.

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TF2 is good because it's a well balanced game with every class having a very distinctged playstyle that can further be tweaked with weapons. It's a big open sandbox without strict rules on how you can play. That makes it fun for both serious and non serious players.

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So what makes Deadlock good?

fringe salmon
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TF2 is good because it's a well balanced game
havo havo havo

novel umbra
proper basin
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would be more fair to compare deadlock to other mobas, since thats what it mainly is

deft bloom
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what I like about the game is that valve is, for the first time ever, engaging with the community and looking for feedback and just.. being there. though that rubs me the wrong way as a cs player

novel umbra
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has to be the first instance with a game in that early state of development having that amount of players

brisk fulcrum
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my valve? listening to their players?

novel umbra
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but ig valve knows that the only way to make that game relevant is to make it into the game people want

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otherwise another studio is just gonna make something similar enough with a few key improvements

fringe salmon
# proper basin would be more fair to compare deadlock to other mobas, since thats what it mainl...

biggest difference to most mobas is that a early death in line doesnt fuck you over even vs a skilled opponent
you dont have dedicated roles like mid or jungle everyone is free to do what they want kinda
aiming does matter you do get headshot boni and securing/confirming the souls on minion kills matters
you can sustain in lane, have a shop in lane so it minimizes downtime of just being in base having to walk back and forth

digital dawn
# silver garden So what makes Deadlock good?

Fun abilities, interesting mechanics (lanes, shop, community presets), I enjoy the gameplay loop personally. I’m currently in the car on my phone so I apologize as I can’t really type much right now.

silver garden
novel umbra
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ik a number of people that enjoy it a whole lot, i personally just can't stand mobas really seentoomuch

digital dawn
silver garden
fringe salmon
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people obviously enjoy mobas and this is one with different skillset and reducing a lot of pain points like the shop/regen in lane
so basically if you like mobas its a good shot you like the game and it will be a very good competitive option

silver garden
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"it's fun"

Great explanation.