Wasn't Denuvo
#š®āgame
pure bear
hm
hardy merlin
MHW was still MT Framework? That explains a lot of things...
still spire
14 people on my friends list now have Palworld, it continues to grow
pure bear
crazy how that blew up
novel umbra
https://vxtwitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1749356807267713205
considering that it doesn't work on steam deck since the change it is more likely that they added enigma
still spire
Yeah
novel umbra
Welp. Time to crack your legitimately purposed game I spose'
too bad that online features are kinda essential for monster hunter
orchid prism
They are? I thought it was a singleplayer game with coop as an optional thing?
novel umbra
i'd say so?
orchid prism
Never knew it as an MP focused game. Never played the series either of course š
hardy merlin
There were several raids MP-only in World, I don't think there's one in Rise though
orchid prism
Oof. That's rough.
still spire
also people wanna show off their hard ground gear
hardy merlin
But World was atrocious for co-op, you had to enter the hunt alone, watch the unskippable cutscene, quit the hunt, then join to one with your team every single time 
And they posted update that they're working on Deck/Linux fix
novel umbra
doesn't change that enigma is incredibly suspicious software
still spire
I mean it is made by a Russian company, Capcom literally broke sanctions to have it developed. 
novel umbra
it's a russian company that doesn't even have an address
pure bear
They are? I thought it was a singleplayer game with coop as an optional thing?
actually the intention is the other way around
pure bear
it's a russian company that doesn't even have an address
the kind of software i like to have on my pc for sure
novel umbra
the kind of software i like to have on my pc for sure
100%
orchid prism
Meanwhile Nintendo lawyers
What are they going to do? Sue the modders?
Game devs couldn't care less.
pure bear
seeing pokemon fanboys mald over this game has made it three times better
hardy merlin
Pretty sure that'll end only with C&D for modders, but still
barren cove
d
hardy merlin
hollow needle
hollow needle
I know it won't hit 2M
What if it did
still spire
I think that would be insane
RIght now it's just crazy, 2M would be insane
I can't imagine these devs, they gotta be crying
They go from doing half baked almost asset flip level games, barely scraping by to this
novel umbra
They go from doing half baked almost asset flip level games to half baked almost asset flip games that sell in the millions
still spire
Big deal for them, job wise
I imagine they're about to get some nice bonuses
As being self published and all that
Just went up another 30,000
lol
still spire
The budget for the game was apparently 6M
hollow needle
The budget for the game was apparently 6M
starfield 200m
small comet
i somehow doubt 6m
small comet
like id believe 1 or 2m sooner than 6m
still spire
Same
hollow needle
depends
if they added more people to the team after craftopia
i mean for sure some work was put into it
small comet
yeah no doubting the work but 6m seems a bit high given their past games
feral ferry
PocketPair should pull a good will move and hire extra devs to make a long term support team + new title development team
Craftopia has sold well too
small comet
not this well though
feral ferry
Nowhere near, yes
This is pretty much unprecedented
Indie title makers sure be having the time of their time nowadays
orchid prism
Ubisoft CEOs in absolute tatters
hollow needle
well
old companies want to kill themselves
so it was matter of time before someone just made better pokemon
small comet
its just greed and out of touch with what gamers want
feral ferry
Pretty much since No Man's Sky I kinda saw how a 20 person team can make good AAA games given time
You don't need megastudios
feral ferry
Given time
small comet
or how long it took them to get it back on track
fallow bronze
5 years or so?
hollow needle
thats how the best games of all time were made
you need 20 coherent people, not 1000 random people who need to hear to their ESG investor overlords, while making games with lack of creative direction
small comet
no man sky took i think 5 or 6 years to release and then another 2 to get good
feral ferry
20 people for 5 years still cheaper than a 200-300 employee studio working on a bi-yearly Assassin's Creed
small comet
yes but 20 people also need to have the funding to dev for well 5-7years
which also means either previous games or someone adept enough to pull in investors
static shale
still spire
20 people for 5 years still cheaper than a 200-300 employee studio working on a ...
Closer to 10 years
pure bear
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still spire
fading spade
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fringe salmon
How is it hard to pinpoint lol
Literally plagiarized shit from Elden ring, ark, PokƩmon and what not
naive plaza
But as long as it makes a fun game
fringe salmon
I mean if the 6m usd budget is accurate itās embarrassing they couldnāt make their own shit
pure bear
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198193628309373018/1199015121662525613/r...
or whatever series that guy fanboys has been shitting him kek
pure bear
Literally plagiarized shit from Elden ring, ark, PokƩmon and what not
elden ring?
fringe salmon
still spire
lol yeah
deft bloom
lul
fringe salmon
Saw some underground dungeon thing that also heavily reminded me
pure bear
the evergoal is kinda weird but eh its just a teleporter
bleak pike
@orchid prism https://vxtwitter.com/SatisfactoryAF/status/1749440663714746721?t=YqxNphcHHbzxgH9iW3FnRw&s=19
pure bear
the game is heavily inspired by other shit but what isnt
fringe salmon
Lmfao inspired
pure bear
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orchid prism
Don't tell Quin how much PokƩmon copied in Arceus.
small comet
isnt it just a satisfactory/ark clone using csgo weapons and pokemona
orchid prism
OH NO. I SLIPPED ON THE PURCHASE BUTTON
deft bloom
mister miyazaki copied berserk all the way
still spire
Mansen NO
fringe salmon
There is a difference between the same inspiration or basiscally everything being a copy of something that is very obvious to see 
small comet
OH NO. I SLIPPED ON THE PURCHASE BUTTON
i want to try it but i fear it wont be what i wamt it to be and it takes too many notes from ark dinos/pokemon
naive plaza
Xbox gamepass
fringe salmon
Recipe tree or something is basically ark tree as people said
hardy merlin
fringe salmon
Also never said it canāt be fun but to me it seems like very obvious plagiarism and not just references/inspiration
small comet
can you even play it singleplayer only?
naive plaza
Yeah
fringe salmon
Yeah no
still spire
pure bear
almost as if designs based on mythology and nature end up looking similar
still spire
^
fringe salmon
Yeah that is a good example how itās very clearly the same reference but not copied from each other lol
still spire
It's also a good example of how Palworld isn't a copy but using the same reference.
orchid prism
Also PokƩmon ran out of ideas 10 generations ago.
There's over a thousand, and a bunch of them are just literal house items and whatnot.
fringe salmon
Like Gyrados and the other water dragon are obviously from the same dragon image yet one wouldnāt see gyrados instantly when shown the dragon quest one
orchid prism
Some of the designs I've seen are amazing.
Exactly the kind of stuff I imagined Pokemon would have years ago, while they still cared.
small comet
imo pokemon have a very distinct look to them
fringe salmon
I just think there is a very obvious difference, you can copy every single PokƩmon and not make it in a style that you instantly see parts of the original PokƩmon in them
still spire
Pokemon Red & Blue + Yellow are the only good Pokemon
fringe salmon
And as shown by the ui or locations itās not like itās a unique world and just the monsters are a copy
Glad people are having fun so itās the second highes playercount for a paid steam game or something like that but its clearly not just a game that simply took inspirations from other games lol
small comet
its most played
fringe salmon
No I mean for highest ever playercount
Itās second or third for all time peak of paid games on steam
hardy merlin
naive plaza
Iām glad theyāre fucking over Nintendo
small comet
damn pubg
naive plaza
Fuck Nintendo
fringe salmon
This isnāt even about Nintendo
still spire
How is it fucking over Nitnendo?
Like lsiten I hate Nintendo
And this game is doing well
But keep in mind, the most recent Pokemon games got trashed, terrible reviews
Like universally hated almost
Still sold like 15M+ copies
Nintendo pretty much doesn't care. They're aware of Palworld now after all the constant news and sales, but it's not like they really care.
fringe salmon
For arguments sake we can ignore all the monsters and I still think the game is thrown together plagiarized stuff, I donāt care about Nintendo xD
indigo lodge
Nintendo have a big fanbase, trashed or not they will sell.
But Palworld just showed that they can make a monster-catchable world way better than Nintendo ever made
small comet
For arguments sake we can ignore all the monsters and I still think the game is ...
tbf though the game (even in name) revolves around the "Pals"
indigo lodge
And 10 times funny/performant/pretty than the last pokemon games on switch 
still spire
And p eople hated it
lol
Lowest rated Pokemon ever, every major outlet crapped on it
23M copies sold
Nintendo doesnt have to trry
fringe salmon
tbf though the game (even in name) revolves around the "Pals"
Yeah but look at anything but the looks of those the ui, world etc. and itās still obvious which parts are copied from where xD
indigo lodge
Yea I played it, i was so hype and I rushed the story and never played again
That was my first 3D pokemon on switch
The hype made me buy it, now I won't go for the next one
small comet
so you learned a lesson: dont buy because of hype alone
vital wyvern
what game are we talking about
small comet
palworld
vital wyvern
what's palworld
hardy merlin
fringe salmon
well, the hype part was for the latest pokemon game
small comet
ark/rust/satisfactory mixed with pokemon and guns
feral ferry
There's no Rust there
small comet
There's no Rust there
rust is also just base building with guns
vital wyvern
wait it really does look a lot like pokemon
barren pewter
But you can nidnap people and eat them
I can do that irl as well
feral ferry
It's basically Ark mechanics with Zelda movement with dinosaurs replaced with Pokemon
vital wyvern
like the monsters are exactly the same
feral ferry
rust is also just base building with guns
Nah, the game blatantly copies Ark
Not Rust
small comet
It's basically Ark mechanics with Zelda movement with dinosaurs replaced with Po...
i remember all the farming and factory building from ark yes
all my dinos tended to the field and factory machines
and i wielded my gattling gun in ark to shoot down every enemy
feral ferry
and i wielded my gattling gun in ark to shoot down every enemy
Yes, actually
feral ferry
i remember all the farming and factory building from ark yes
Tbf that's more of their own unique take on it
Ark had basic farming
vital wyvern
welp, watched the trailer video and I don't see what's so interesting about this but cool if people like it I guess
small comet
Ark had basic farming
keyword basic
still spire
That simple
small comet
i dont even know why the trailers etc show automation of guns
why do you need so many
orchid prism
welp, watched the trailer video and I don't see what's so interesting about this...
It's a bit like PokƩmon, but with more of a survival approach.
orchid prism
Oh you betcha. I've gone full survivorman already.
Built a wooden lodge next to a waterfall overlooking my new kingdom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBX5qh09OIE
This but while putting enslaved animals to work.
vital wyvern
I'd consider giving it a look if it wasn't early access
still spire
Got Gamepass? you can
vital wyvern
nope
still spire
That's what kinda makes sales even nuttier, it's on gamepass and still sold 4M copies already.
bleak pike
Anyone wanna team up?
small comet
Anyone wanna team up?
dw we dont kink shame
fringe salmon
tell me its ark character creator without saying its ark
hardy merlin
fuck it
vital wyvern
I don't play EA games because at worst they are a crap experience and at best they just ruin the fun before you get to experience the full game
small comet
tell me its ark character creator without saying its ark <:dogekek:1134256020156...
thats palworld
still spire
fringe salmon
thats palworld
yes thats the joke
small comet
again dw we dont kink shame your love for bearded hatsune miku haired girls
bleak pike
The UI feels like Division
small comet
i love the synchronized reloading
still spire
orchid prism
And... a bunch of other games.
still spire
Dozens
But yeah I mean Death Threats are common, not surprised
Sad I'm not surprised but that's the world we live in š
feral ferry
That was the first thing that came to my head once I saw that UI
It rips off Ark hard
Some sounds and movement are hard Zelda copies
orchid prism
feral ferry
The Day Before
No, leave
still spire
lol
still spire
Some sounds and movement are hard Zelda copies
As is Zelda
feral ferry
Which game's movement has Breath of the Wild copied?
Stamina based climbing, running and attacks with that half-wheel for indicating stamina
naive plaza
Genshin copied Botw
still spire
Which game's movement has Breath of the Wild copied?
RuneScape
feral ferry
Well, yes
orchid prism
Stamina based climbing, running and attacks with that half-wheel for indicating ...
At the top of my tongue.
still spire
That too
feral ferry
The fuck is that
still spire
...lol
feral ferry
Shadow of the Collosus?
orchid prism
Vex being Vex as usual š
feral ferry
Wasn't that game a bit shite
small comet
not really
feral ferry
I remember Dunkey fuckin ragequiting cause of terrible controls
still spire
It's legendarily popualr, it even got a remake
I mean yeah controls sucked, but it's Dunkey man
Dunkeys whole schtick is commedy
small comet
I remember Dunkey fuckin ragequiting cause of terrible controls
you try playing any game with just hooves
but im not sure if id put shadow of the colossus movement up to botw movement
still spire
"For people who know the 1000+ Pokemon"
Jesus christ
These people know 1000+ pokemon ,but probably not 10 real animals
small comet
botw lets you climb just about anywhere which shadow of colossus doesnt. but it definitely evolved the movement from there into its own
orchid prism
botw lets you climb just about anywhere which shadow of colossus doesnt. but it ...
Colossus has that infamous super climb for Easter eggs which requires you to beat the game several times though.
That one definitely reminds me of some of the bigger climbs in breath.
still spire
botw lets you climb just about anywhere which shadow of colossus doesnt. but it ...
Ahem
Gothic
small comet
Colossus has that infamous super climb for Easter eggs which requires you to bea...
hm true
orchid prism
But it's not super apples to apples to compare the entire movement system of a ps2 game with an open world game like breath.
Even the N64 Zelda games which were "open world" have really limited movement and scaling.
small comet
yeah but palworld is the botw movement system 1:1
just a different stamina indicator
naive plaza
lol so does Gensin, Conan Exiles
Genshit *
still spire
https://gamerant.com/best-video-game-climbing-mechanics/#wall-running-ndash-mirror-39-s-edge-catalyst Oh boi look at #1
small comet
lol so does Gensin, Conan Exiles
imo its more the issue that its an amalgamation of so many different games and their systems copied 1:1 than just oh they have the same movement system but fighting etc is their own system
still spire
Nah it's just people don't like that it's so successful. If this game had 20,000 people playing it, people wouldn't care, but cause it's so hig hup
small comet
idk for me it doesnt matter how successful it is
still spire
And I',, just say I don't even own the game nor plan o buy it, but I think people making al lthese comparisons are wild
small comet
cant speak for others
naive plaza
With how many games out itās hard not to copy something 
orchid prism
I personally don't care if it copies or is inspired heavily by other games. That's just games in general if you apply enough investigation.
As long as they aren't literally using other IP assets, I'm Gucci.
still spire
And they're from Japan so their asses are covered
Japans copyright laws are really neat
orchid prism
Nintendo could have merged breath of the wild with PokƩmon arceus years ago. But they didn't.
still spire
small comet
i think its sad that palworld copied donkey kong with their idea of letting people jump
orchid prism
Wahaha... Skylines 2 won't be getting mod support till Fall.
A full year of release before adding a core pillar to a sequel..
small comet
still glad i havent bought cs2 yet
fallow bronze
Is it an early access?
small comet
what
bleak pike
You can buy cs2?
bleak pike
Lol I read as counterstrike
vapid lintel
Wahaha... Skylines 2 won't be getting mod support till Fall.
That's actually absurd... š
hollow needle
Wahaha... Skylines 2 won't be getting mod support till Fall.
Does this game even run yet
naive plaza
I can't get 30 fps stable at low to medium settings at 3440x1440P
Thatās not kind of
orchid prism
Going to bet they're playing it at 1080 with DLSS
Or rather AMDs version.
And it gets bad. Very bad visually
(as recommended by Paradox officially)
pure bear
wasnt this the game where some high and low sliders where flipped
bleak pike
Are they including game pass installs I wonder
drifting rose
how this game by nobodies gets flooded with players and enjoys a good launch is a feat that triple A studios will never ever replicate
edit: I thought it was an MMO lawl. but still, good on them
vital wyvern
Are they including game pass installs I wonder
"has sold over 5 million copies"
a gamepass install is not a sold copy
bleak pike
Ik
fringe salmon
the image used makes it seem like unique players which would include those installs though
bleak pike
Ye
drifting rose
https://steamcommunity.com/id/cdranzer/recommended/1623730/ found a pretty thoughtful review of the thing while scrolling over the usual kind that people write
vital wyvern
wow that is actually a very thoughtful review
perfectly describes my experiences with similar hyped games that I, for better or for worse, were a part of
naive plaza
fringe salmon
yeah in essence it's like most of these games, valheim being the most recent one that I got reminded of
and thats fine especially when it's cheap and fun with friends
I just wish it didnt have all the other issues
naive plaza
And this is why game pass is great
vital wyvern
I recently played valheim and while fun, I'm not sure it lived up to the hype it had on release
fringe salmon
i do love not owning what I pay for
vital wyvern
and also less content than I expected after being out for like years already
naive plaza
i do love not owning what I pay for
Eh
I donāt play single player games for long s
So paying for them is a waste
orchid prism
bleak pike
Actually ironically looks better
drifting rose
weird how that makes me want to pirate games less and just buy them. reverse psychology works for once
drifting rose
the human eye can't see more than 30 fps
naive plaza
then im superhuman
orchid prism
Hilarious if true. (Palworld devs)
fringe salmon
trend follower is quite the way to say I just take what already exists
but yes this interview about that linked yesterday or so iirc
I dont think they are using ai
orchid prism
None of the pals look AI.
So far that has been nothing but a Twitter rumor that just gets reposted blindly.
fringe salmon
yeah I dont think its ai, which ironically would be better, because not being ai means it's deliberately done xD
orchid prism
Only according to US law iirc
fringe salmon
https://vxtwitter.com/covingtown/status/1749462735291859423 but like, idk how people see this like having same references xD
orchid prism
And there are some caveats.
slim token
Hilarious if true. (Palworld devs)
lmao
fringe salmon
multiple videos so open it if you want to see the rest
fading spade
severe compass
The fact AI cannot be copyrighted reminds me of the legal battle PETA and that photographer had around the smiling monkey picture
hardy merlin
5 hours in and I just discovered I can pet my Poke... Pals! 
Tis a weird game... Fun, but weird
fringe salmon
Damn a shit ton of people got fired from riot today
still spire
slim token
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198193628309373018/1199160101710336122...
missed the conversation
still spire
There will be no legal battle
It's a Japanese company
They take copyright law much more seriously over there
You can't copyright "Similar" things like you can in the West
If it was actually stolen, they'd have a case, but there's no proof to be found here, so the best they could say it was apeing their style, which in Japanese court would mean nothing
fallow bronze
This kind of filter was very common in the snes emu days
novel umbra
Lol such an ugly filter
it's like part of a decent CRT filter ig?
novel umbra
that is just scanlines
fallow bronze
This is like the supersai or something filters
orchid prism
Yeah that smeary shit looks like Super Sai š
A staple of all 2D emus in days of yore.
novel umbra
personally was VERY happy with crt royale 
hardy merlin
CRT Royale looks pretty nice
novel umbra
ideally you want a quite high res monitor
and like an OLED ideally
with a more normal subpixel layout than QD-oled or woled
š
hardy merlin
That slight bleeding effect really sells it for me
orchid prism
Oh boy. It continues.
hardy merlin
They're closing Riot Forge too 
https://www.pcgamer.com/riot-games-layoffs-2024/
fallow bronze
This is a post pandemic correction
hardy merlin
Closing the whole division? Hella big correction...
novel umbra
rip whatever the name of the fighting game was
project l?
project m is already a step ahead anyways 
hardy merlin
Project L seems to be still worked on, they want to show demo in April https://project-l.riotgames.com/en-us/
hollow needle
https://www.nexusmods.com/seaofstars/mods/3?tab=description
its just ugly smoothening filter
people dont understand what is pixel art
still spire
Oh boy. It continues.
Any Indie titles are being funded?
Indie games are trhiving
lol
Look at Palworld.
hollow needle
Oh boy. It continues.
people look wrong at this
hardy merlin
people dont understand what is pixel art
People are tired of pixel art because of lots of shovelware titles lately which usually used pixel/voxel art graphics
still spire
Sea of Stars was also a big hit
hollow needle
this is opportunity to shit on all the big companies
with much lower effort needed
hardy merlin
Yeah, Riot Forge was their indie division, kinda weird they closed it off, it looked like it was pretty profitable
novel umbra
people dont understand what is pixel art
and you don't understand CRTs
hollow needle
and you don't understand CRTs <:giggle:765259312746070086>
?
still spire
Yeah I get that pixel art was for CRTS, but still looks better htan smeared
hollow needle
crt bloom didnt look like this
novel umbra
not saying it did
novel umbra
because the scanline filter is equally bad
hollow needle
wellll crts had its benefits but yea
we dont want 100kg box shooting beams in scanlines
fallow bronze
Flickering.
feral ferry
So they will stop making PlayStation consoles? 
Frickin mkilbride the reddit goblin stealing my feed from me
hardy merlin
Why PlayStation will remain our core product [is] we will expand our gaming experiences to PC, mobile, and cloud
So, in the end, CEO made an official speech... about what we all knew for a while now
fading spade
Ooooo yes
fading spade
Didn't they give this away already for free
O??
hardy merlin
It was free on EGS few years ago
feral ferry
https://www.pcgamer.com/soma-is-free-on-gog-right-now/ 5 years ago lol
SOMA is very much an end of life game, constantly on 90% discounts
Frictional does that for all their games older than their latest
feral ferry
Ah, PCs version of the onion
hardy merlin
Rest in pepperoni Pokemon mod 
https://vxtwitter.com/ToastedShoes/status/1749711480050827433
feral ferry
Nintendo can't do shit lel
hardy merlin
Sure enough, Palworld passed legal reviews
However, Pokemod mod... And pay-walled* for that matter...
still spire
Nothing is gonna happe nto Palworld, but seeing the discourse around it is fun
still spire
I don't think it was
hardy merlin
You had to go through Toasted's Patreon to get it
still spire
Oh hm
feral ferry
You had to go through Toasted's Patreon to get it
Yeah that's paid
feral ferry
The devs of Skyrim Together did that
Got sued and I'm pretty sure lost
Cause they stopped that, fast
still spire
I relaly wanted to see PW hit 2M, but i looks like that won't happen
feral ferry
Universal law is if you are using someone else's property - make it free
You are otherwise cucked
hardy merlin
I dunno if it won't hit 2M
Also it's the middle of the week, might be another record in weekend
feral ferry
I dunno if it won't hit 2M
What is this diamond hands level of copium
I nearly thought this was r/wallstreetbets
hardy merlin
No, we won't be doing MOASS here
still spire
I mean if you include Gamepass people, you'd get close
They said they had around 300K concurrent gamepass uers
hardy merlin
It's an indie game which came out of nowhere, how it'd manage to get such numbers?
feral ferry
Tbf this is how corporations are born
PocketPair has like 1-2 more in them before they go to shit
novel umbra
I dunno if it won't hit 2M
can you add some candles
still spire
They should've just called them...what's another word for pockets?
novel umbra
bag
still spire
BagMon
novel umbra
thanks
still spire
Bokemon
novel umbra
baggemon
hardy merlin
I wonder if setting up dedicated server would help to offload my PC just a bit
Yesterday I tried to play with 2 friends and fans were going 100% all the time 
novel umbra
fanspeed is my favourite measurement of useage
hardy merlin
But of course
Trying to run any monitoring software or even hooking up mangohud crashed the game
Basically trying to open anything more than Firefox crashed it...
novel umbra
ever heard of this neat software called taskmanager?
it's a lot less resource intensive than a webbrowser
ah wait
orchid prism
hardy merlin
Yup, trying to open konsole or yakuake crashed it too 
Haven't tried to connect via ssh though
hardy merlin
Better yet - why Firefox works then
still spire
Linux was a mistake.
feral ferry
Linux was a mistake.
It indeed was
hardy merlin
Am happy with my mistake 
novel umbra
Linux was a mistake.
making minerals think was a mistake
still spire
True
feral ferry
Nvidia, fuck you
Linus Sebastian, LTX 2023
hardy merlin
Oh yeah, the great $70 screwdriver...
feral ferry
But it's engineered so well
Why are you still buying 5$ wallmart screwdrivers, you should pay 14x more
nimble current
all screwdrivers are not born equal
there's pretty extensive tests online showing its really not that overpriced for what you get
hardy merlin
But... but those near invisible parting lines... That diamond-cut knurling...
nimble current
screwdrivers of equivalent quality from reputable brands are about the same
hardy merlin
iFixit Manta set, $70, you get way more than with LTT's screwdriver
feral ferry
iFixit is pretty solid but still expensive
nimble current
now there's an overpriced vendor
manta ain't even the same type of screwdriver cmon now
orchid prism
Overpriced or not, I swear by my kit except for PC install (I need a longer, thinner screwdriver that doesn't sandpaper the case metal when I turn)
Only bit I've had to replace was the fucking apple Y bits that warp after a couple of phones.
nimble current
yeah not saying its a bad kit
orchid prism
7 years and counting isn't bad for a kit that wasn't that expensive back in... 2017?
nimble current
I doubt those drives and bits would survive as much torque as the LTT one but if you're mostly working on small consumer electronics you likely won't need it anyways
hardy merlin
If I'd need something for high torque honestly I'd prefer Wera over LTT
hardy merlin
Tarkov ditched Edge of Darkness edition? Why? 
still spire
Oh shit someone has a copy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmGjBXNlGcY
vital wyvern
meanwhile I just have an 8ā¬ 4mm bit set from Wish and a 6.90ā¬ 4mm bit set from Lidl
y'all out there buying 80ā¬ ifixit kits or whatever
orchid prism
novel umbra
š
I was there at some point
just some cheap whatever bit set
then needed something with longer blades
and bought a wera set
but then needed something with longer blades and a larger hex head
so now I rock 3 different sets š
vital wyvern
my Lidl kit also has a driver with a high-tech extendable blade
vital wyvern
well extendable does the trick
novel umbra
no
vital wyvern
it sort of slides out from the handle
novel umbra
because it is too thick
vital wyvern
wow š way to have shit design
"to assemble this product you bought you need to source a specialty driver, have fun!"
novel umbra
yea apparently those kinda screwdrivers are more common there
my nanch set also has an extendable blade
that front part can slide in and out
but then I also get long bits
novel umbra
yea apparently those kinda screwdrivers are more common there
to be fair that is how US people feel about international designers using torx 
still spire
still spire
Dumb Valve has to do this anyways though
hardy merlin
They do such fixes a lot lately
Come to think of it, if Capcom decides to add Enigma to MH Wilds instead of Denuvo, then there's quite high chance for Day 1 crack
still spire
Good
Every study ever done on piracy has proven it doesnt' affect sales in a negative way
Spending so much money for nothing is just so dumb
fading spade
Every study ever done on piracy has proven it doesnt' affect sales in a negative...
How wouldn't it??
hardy merlin
It really doesn't, in some cases piracy even has positive effect on sales
hardy merlin
Essentially serving as an advertisement
fading spade
O
still spire
Take The Man from Earth, a movie
A movie nobody really heard of
But it got pirated
A decent amount
Small indie movie
Now it's a cult classic, the director even released an official torrent
orchid prism
I only know that movie from a sampled quote used in a tune š
fading spade
Oo
still spire
And in the case of a lot of pirates, they buy games after pirating them, I know it sounds weird
Butyeah
At least so far we've found no evidence piracy affects sales negatively
fringe salmon
It makes sense but I think itās wrong to assume that is the case for every game
fading spade
š¤ thats fascinating
fringe salmon
If you already are a AAA game you arenāt getting as much word of mouth as an indie game would since you already market it
still spire
Yeah but even then, games continue to set sales records, profit records
hardy merlin
Pretty much, point being that if someone doesn't want to buy a game, they won't buy it anyways
But there's a lot of people who will download pirated version and buy a copy because they liked it, me included
still spire
and piracy is supposedly at an all time high
So it doesn't seem like a big deal
More than half my library on Steam is games I pirated and completed as a kid
fading spade
Pretty much, point being that if someone doesn't want to buy a game, they won't ...
Ok yeah....that makes sense
still spire
And haven't really palyed them again
fading spade
wow
fringe salmon
Also other cases like borderlands 3 where lots of people didnāt buy it because of epic games and also didnāt want to wait till steam release so I know a decent amount that wanted it pirated but also didnāt buy it on steam after
fringe salmon
Ok so just donāt buy it or refund it
still spire
I mean it likely wasn't pirated all that much anyways
fading spade
Steam started rejecting my Refund requests cause iv done too many last year...
they suggest reading the reviews more before buying
fringe salmon
I always support it over using g2a likes or if you canāt afford it, I will never understand why people feel entitled to it if they could afford it or just not play it if they think itās not worth it
hardy merlin
Fun fact - I got 10zÅ coupon for g2a in my pizza
bleak pike
Steam started rejecting my Refund requests cause iv done too many last year...
Idk how people get to that point lol
still spire
Jesus man I think I've done like two in 21 years.
bleak pike
@fading spade how many did you do?
fading spade
7 I think
bleak pike
Didn't you get warned before
orchid prism
bleak pike
As you refunded a bunch in a short period
still spire
https://twitter.com/Piranha_Bytes/status/1749416801262297324 Well that's confirmed
Twitter
bleak pike
I can't read that mate.
hardy merlin
still spire
lucid brook
what is piranha bytes?
hardy merlin
Gamedev studio - Gothic, Risen, Elex...
lucid brook
ah gothic games, now i know
fading spade
a few indie games and like 2 FPS
fringe salmon
Before or after the limit of 2 hours/first14 days?
fallow bronze
a few indie games and like 2 FPS
Hm, ok i asked the wrong question. Why did you have to refund them? We're they games That were not what you expected? Didn't run?
fading spade
combo of crashing / not starting up and not fun
fallow bronze
K, fair.
small comet
https://preview.redd.it/ykboh4mqs4ec1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=2527db74cdfc2d6dbcbf027ef...
getting closer and closer to 2m active players
still spire
If it sells 7M units in it's first week, it'll be among the giants of Skyrim and GTA
small comet
according to steam charts its also the most active dedicated server software on steam (thats not the game itself)
orchid prism
Yeah people really want to play it together.
small comet
still beaten by pirates/card bots
orchid prism
Imagine using the old Spacewar approach.
hardy merlin
1.7M š
small comet
yeah
fallow bronze
All profile pics are anime pics. Except tony
hollow needle
small comet
All profile pics are anime pics. Except tony
mansens pfp is drawn by rouhan i think
i could be wrong
still spire
PUBGS? I don't see that happening
fallow bronze
anime stylr
still spire
PUBG included China
hollow needle
https://preview.redd.it/ykboh4mqs4ec1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=2527db74cdfc2d6dbcbf027ef...
mario copy when
still spire
Acftually that is true
This is far more impressive than PUBG
PUBG hit that concurrent when Steam China wasn't separate
small comet
so imagine palworld beats it
orchid prism
mansens pfp is drawn by rouhan i think
Indeed! She did an amazing job on the duck basecall cap š
small comet
cs2 is also sort of falsified cause thats the csgo number
since they just changed the games name and images etc
still spire
This was PUBG before CHina was kicked to their own servers for it
hollow needle
https://twitter.com/Piranha_Bytes/status/1749416801262297324 Well that's confirm...
hope gothic isnt cancelled
small comet
1.7M š
1.75 now so could reach csgo's peak today
maybe tomorrow
if not then on the weekend for sure
when everyone is free
orchid prism
Buzzword tomorrow: Which warcrime knockoff pokemon are you?
small comet
in 2hrs should be peak steam user count and active player count
still spire
It'll do 2M at least
orchid prism
"10 Palworld auschwitz reenactments we found on 4chan, number 5 will scar you"
still spire
Also keep in mind, at least 300,000 users are on gamepass
willow quiver
I do warcrimes in palword. I own sweatshop
orchid prism
"An interview with the Factorio player of 10.000 who turned Palworld into an sweatshop hellscape"
willow quiver
Pal-qaida
orchid prism
"Is pacifism for you? An indepth guide on how to play Palworld with no violence."
"Palworld speedrunner breaks the 0:23 warcrime % record at end of 92 hour livestream"
(Calling it now - At least one of these will appear or have already appeared somewhere in games "journalism")
willow quiver
You should read palworlds interview
They got a kid at a convenience store to do 3d modeling for them
orchid prism
I posted that earlier.
willow quiver
Hilarious
still spire
They better give everyone there a nice fat bonus
Like match 100% of their yearly salary š
Indie devs can get away with doing shit like that
No publisher to answer too
orchid prism
Literally eating their own limbs to try and stay relevant, while also allowing investors to suck them dry.
willow quiver
BBB devs stand up
hardy merlin
AAA dying and indies thriving? I like this timeline
novel umbra
looking worse and worse for ubisoft
making 11 assassins creed games will fix it, trust
hardy merlin
They're still slowly recovering after that interview...
novel umbra
they need to recover from more than jsut that interview
most of their games ain't doin too hot
hardy merlin
"Spends 500M developing game, charges 70$ + 3000$ in DLC"
Don't forget about mtx in single-player games
novel umbra
mtx + anticheats
hollow needle
what is mtx
orchid prism
Imagine Ubisoft CEO reading that interview, fuming like a volcano at how indie titles are beating them.
novel umbra
what is mtx
microtransactions
novel umbra
Yeah Shadow of War
far cry 5
hollow needle
oh
still spire
Macrotransactions
fading spade
I wish indie games were more diverse -; its mostly metroidvania or some farm sim or a magic game with farm sim included ;-;
still spire
Well check out Chained Echoes or Sea of Stars then.
novel umbra
far cry 5
(only real advantage they gave you there outside early unlocks was being able to carry 2 sets of shovels)
hollow needle
I wish indie games were more diverse -; its mostly metroidvania or some farm sim...
market will sort them out
fading spade
eventually yeah
hardy merlin
Indie games is where diversity is tbh
AAA is mostly "3rd person action RPG game"...
still spire
Or if you want a FPS, check out In Sound Mind
fading spade
when AAA kills itself
still spire
Pretty good
small comet
where does AAA even come from
fading spade
no iidea
small comet
what does it stand for
fallow bronze
I wish indie games were more diverse -; its mostly metroidvania or some farm sim...
Wat
orchid prism
where does AAA even come from
Credit bond ratings.
novel umbra
Or if you want a FPS, check out In Sound Mind
can you link?
hollow needle
fading spade
Or if you want a FPS, check out In Sound Mind
o, looking it up now
orchid prism
orchid prism
If you ever played railroad tycoon you'll recognize the term when borrowing money š
hardy merlin
Oh, sweet sweet irony
novel umbra
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1119980/In_Sound_Mind/
that looks like some horror trash lol
novel umbra
btw
fading spade
wtf is "frenetic"?
novel umbra
if you want to have a very funny and short multiplayer horror experience
100% recommended
still spire
It's by the people who did a lot of HL2 horror mods and you can feel those roots
novel umbra
apparrently there is quad a
yea ubisoft and sega made up term
I am very afraid of that btw
the new sega game will prob be the omega flop of the century
small comet
the only AAAA game ever would be JetSetRadio Future remaster
still spire
No
novel umbra
(if you don't count the assassins creed franchise as a whole)
still spire
TThe only AAAA game would be MegaMan Legends 3
still spire
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1164940/Trepang2/ Check out Trepang2 for another good Indie FPS
hollow needle
the only AAAA game would be nintendo game ofc
novel umbra
I mean budget wise
skull and bones has to be up there
with how long it was in active development
still spire
Neon White is also great. Indie scene is fantastic.
hollow needle
skull and bones has to be up there
what is this even
novel umbra
Neon White is also great. Indie scene is fantastic.
did not like the concept
novel umbra
what is this even
the funny ubisoft pirate game that should release soon
that was a black flag dlc originally
still spire
I'm not the target audience for Neon White and I loved it
novel umbra
cruelty squad is also a good mention imo
absolutely killed it
gunfire reborn was decent imo as well
fallow bronze
Black flag was a boring game.
novel umbra
gunfire reborn was decent imo as well
(if that is the kinda game you enjoy)
fallow bronze
All ac games are boring games
novel umbra
idk if postal brain damaged would count
fading spade
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1164940/Trepang2/ Check out Trepang2 for anot...
YEHA I LOVE THIS ONE
I have the demo though not the full game
still spire
The Ascent was also a very fun Indie game
novel umbra
fr tho
give somewhere in the shadows a try
one of the funniest games I have played in a while
still spire
Ah yeah, that game, I got it for like a dollar
Because if you bought the prototype, you got the full game free
Don't expect plot, just enjoy the spectacle and combat
It's kinda like a Devil May Cry FPS
novel umbra
meh
small comet
more like darksouls the fps
novel umbra
I just want a new borderlands 2 (still) 
novel umbra
more like darksouls the fps
skyrim with guns?
fading spade
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1178830/Bright_Memory_Infinite/
oh..the one with the horny intro cutscene....
novel umbra
oh..the one with the horny intro cutscene....
ofc, it is a chinese game with realistic characters
still spire
Chinese so yeah
novel umbra
that isn't going for a super artsy thing
novel umbra
one of the characters is just staright up mario
idk if I woud count hellblade as indie lol
orchid prism
Take The Man from Earth, a movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAE_sC7T3Vo
There it was.
still spire
Why not? It's developed by and published by Ninja Theory.
novel umbra
Why not? It's developed by and published by Ninja Theory.
is tears of the kingdom indie?
it is developed and published by nintendo
small comet
i thoguht hellblade was ninja theory
orchid prism
it is developed and published by nintendo
Not the best gotcha attempt. Nintendo literally owns the hardware and platform the game is on š
novel umbra
Not the best gotcha attempt. Nintendo literally owns the hardware and platform t...
and?
orchid prism
That's it.
small comet
is there another hellblade im not aware of?
novel umbra
they are still an independent company
novel umbra
is there another hellblade im not aware of?
yea hellblade 2
still spire
small comet
ah so hellblade 2 is nintendo then
still spire
Lmao
novel umbra
I wouldn't count a game as indie just because they published themselves
small comet
werent ninja theory just like 15 people or so
orchid prism
Ninja theory? The folks who made Ninja Gaiden?
small comet
i only know them for kung fu chaos and hellblade so idk
still spire
No the folks who made Ninja theory
orchid prism
still spire
I mean Half-Life is a pretty good Indie series
Technically Portal isn't cause EA published it.
small comet
so when does one stop being an indie dev
still spire
When one is owned by a publisher by a different name
novel umbra
Technically Portal isn't cause EA published it. <:duck_sip:1103326776308019362>
on some plattforms
skyrim was self published
wasn't it?
orchid prism
There is no one standard for that.
But I'd argue that if you're literally running a platform other companies put their games on, you're not indie š
novel umbra
There is no one standard for that.
But I'd argue that if you're literally runnin...
i'd argue you would be more independent than anyone else
still spire
Fck
orchid prism
skyrim was self published
Technically no? Bethesda is a daughter company.
orchid prism
i'd argue you would be more independent than anyone else <:KEKW:7098043618611692...
If you have daughter companies, or you're publishing for others that ship has sailed š
still spire
Damn I almost wanna buy it just to pump those numbers up, serious mental issues.
Palworld CS2 items wen
small comet
If you have daughter companies, or you're publishing for others that ship has sa...
but youre still an independent dev...
your daughter companies wouldnt be
novel umbra
If you have daughter companies, or you're publishing for others that ship has sa...
most companies that have the financial situation to afford game develpoment should probably have daughter companies for financial reasons
novel umbra
especially in the US
still spire
š
hardy merlin
skyrim was self published
Bethesda Softworks (publisher) is parent company for Bethesda Game Studios (dev), and both are sitting under Zenimax...
orchid prism
"Indie" and pedantry go hand in hand as always.
novel umbra
meanwhile gamefreak is trying to get that "indie feel"
still spire
20M on the game
small comet
i get the feeling indie dev is just too flexible of a term
novel umbra
kinda
orchid prism
i get the feeling indie dev is just too flexible of a term
It 100% is. Because depending on who you ask, you'll get wildly different answers.
hollow needle
Spend 500M on fast cars and mansions
i dont get how people got so much faith in a company thats making their first game
orchid prism
Is it about being published?
Is it about studio/team size?
Is it about budget?
Is it about the "feel" of the game?
small comet
for me independent dev just means they can do whatever they want without pleasing investors or a parent company
still spire
i dont get how people got so much faith in a company thats making their first ga...
More so that Chris Roberts has a history of being terrible at managing money, he has failed in EVERY project he's been a part of
small comet
valve would be the pinacle of indie dev
still spire
And so people said "Let's just give him INFINITE money"
orchid prism
Most games I consider indie are small teams of a handful or so, with a few freelancers helping out parttime, having a publisher is not a dealbreaker.
hardy merlin
Dave the Diver had indie "feel" despite not being one
novel umbra
idk if you can loose your indie status
small comet
epic would also be one
well id say valve is the pinacle cause their MO for devs is work on what looks fun to you
novel umbra
without swapping publishers
orchid prism
And they got away with it too š
still spire
Nexon opened up a studio to develop high quality indie-esque titles without MTX
novel umbra
but fortnite and warframe would not be indie to me
novel umbra
well id say valve is the pinacle cause their MO for devs is `work on what looks ...
used to be at least
novel umbra
they changed up how they develop quite a few years ago
still spire
Then some devs stole the games assets
orchid prism
The worst thing is - Dave the Diver could have 100% been a small indie team self published game. But having Nexon fund them has soured the game for many.
novel umbra
after they got nothing done
small comet
does valve need to get stuff done... steam prints them money either way
still spire
Game is now running off some shady website and is doing bad
novel umbra
The worst thing is - Dave the Diver could have 100% been a small indie team self...
doesn't make the game worse for me, but calling it indie is a bit ridiculous to me
novel umbra
does valve need to get stuff done... steam prints them money either way
I mean they want to get their projects done
otherwise, why hire game devs
and just go full on hardware
orchid prism
doesn't make the game worse for me, but calling it indie is a bit ridiculous to ...
I enjoyed it regardless - Well except needing to use turbo keys to avoid RSI.
novel umbra
lol
still spire
hardy merlin
530 people laid off, Riot Forge closed, future projects suspended...
pure bear
the fact they were over 5000 people big is nuts
feral ferry
Or Hello Games game funding
But I swear if you haven't been interested in that specific company, you will never hear or even be aware of them having a third party indie funding programs
hardy merlin
1.86M today, it might hit 2M even before the weekend
still spire
Pretty shocking honestly
grizzled quarry
1.86M today, it might hit 2M even before the weekend <:pepesweat:660549398417113...
Damn it just keeps going up
Yesterday was 1.5m I think
still spire
pure bear
people that claim that are borderline conspiracy theorists
still spire
orchid prism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4thYs_0qNs
Imagine milking a simple "No it isn't" for almost half an hour.
still spire
I mean, he's just doing his job as a YouTuber I guess
small comet
I mean, he's just doing his job as a YouTuber I guess
if all youtubers are good at milking like that they should consider becoming farmers.
still spire
still spire
orchid prism
still spire
Twitter
Lol this game isn't gonna delay itself it seems, shame, I think it looked good, but all the hype is on Palworld right now
grizzled bramble
Oh release date for Hellblade II š
still spire
Bad time to launch another survival game
orchid prism
Eh?
fallow bronze
Survival?
feral ferry
Game?
orchid prism
Hotel? Trivago.