🎮│game

[orchid prism]

In a sense.

You had to buy some items to get out of the free queues, where all the hackers mostly were.

Was it like 5 bucks or something?

[small comet]

but they are refunding that prime upgrade

[orchid prism]

Only if you were actively playing in recent months.

That timeframe is the crux I am referring to.

[small comet]

hm id assume their lawyers are quite aware of what they can get away with

[orchid prism]

That would be a first in the gaming industry 😄

I figure they have stats that show that if anyone complains it'll be in such small numbers that Customer Support are allowed to just refund it and move on.

[still spire]

Less than 50 mac players worldwide, they';ll manage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5_pB2Z0y6g

[still spire]

https://estnn.com/valve-earned-40m-from-case-openings-just-40-minutes-after-cs2s-release/

[fading spade]

oh my

[feral ferry]

https://youtu.be/BZDzunyeqvA

Saw this linked with the Mac CS2 cancellation

Gabe's perspective is precisely why Apple can't compete with Windows properly

[crystal juniper]

Pretty sure Apple aren’t really trying to compete with windows in gaming lol

[feral ferry]

They had 17 years for it

Since the Gabe interview

And it's still the same old story

[crystal juniper]

Well yeah it’s not their goal at all

They don’t care about gaming, it’s just a side thing

[feral ferry]

That is not how business works

[crystal juniper]

I mean, are you really telling the worlds most valuable company they’re doing business wrong

[feral ferry]

There's no such thing as a multitrillion dollar company "not caring" about something that makes their products bought more

[crystal juniper]

you focus on what you think will gain you the most

doing everything is bad.

[feral ferry]

It's not like they hold the edge against Windows in productivity either lol

So much for focusing on outcompeting Windows that does everything

[crystal juniper]

I somehow think Apple is doing okay focusing on the sectors they do

Your Apple hate boner is showing again

[feral ferry]

Aw so sorry your jimmies are rustled

[crystal juniper]

Apple aim for lifetime customer value via a product funnel that starts with iPhone usually

It’s working extremely well

[fringe salmon]

Apple doesn’t focus on gaming because they don’t want zu support x86 cpus or external gpus so they are limited by their own hardware so why go all ok on something you aren’t going to be great at in the long term

[feral ferry]

I'm rather infuriated that with Windows becoming more ass than before, I sure as hell am not migrating to 11 or 12, Linux is annoying to work with, and Mac doesn't work

There needs to be more competition

[fringe salmon]

M series chips are doing well but they are stagnating on cpu side and gpu will be limited too

[crystal juniper]

yeah we'll have to see what their next step after m series chips are now that others are catching up

[fringe salmon]

So them focusing on gaming as much as their hardware allows is a nice side deal for them

[crystal juniper]

Apples phone stats are a bit insane

In that something crazy like 2/3 or more of teenagers use iPhones

[hardy merlin]

I don't feel comfortable giving everything in hands of one company who can browse my data as they wish...

[hardy merlin]

In US

[crystal juniper]

Nah overseas too

In Korea it’s even higher

Which is weird for a country with Samsung

They don’t even use normal text here in Korea for the whole blue bubble vs green bubble thing, yet all the kids use iPhone

[hardy merlin]

Wot
In Korea 66% of phone market is still owned by Samsung

[crystal juniper]

Nah look at the stats for kids

Older gen use Samsung but look at the teenager usage stats

[hardy merlin]

I see
And Samsung share is growing month by month

[crystal juniper]

Yeah Samsung phone is a tiny part of Samsung here

They own literal apartment buildings

[nimble current]

its actually pretty close to 50/50 here

[hardy merlin]

No
"Mobile Vendor Market Share Republic Of Korea"
Samsung is growing month by month

[nimble current]

iphone only has a couple percent advantage

[hardy merlin]

In Korea?

[crystal juniper]

What stat are you looking at?

[nimble current]

scandinavia

[crystal juniper]

i'll find the article in a sec, bit busy

[still spire]

Apple just announced bankruptcy

[crystal juniper]

but apple is overwhelmingly popular in korea with kids

[hardy merlin]

statcounter, statista...

[crystal juniper]

yeah use the korean ones

non korean sites aren't all that accurate for korea stuff, you have to search via naver

[hardy merlin]

For China stats, maybe
For Korean? Not at all.

[crystal juniper]

i'm not even bias towards one over the other, i own both phones

yes for korea, the stats are owned by the conglomerates here, aka the samsungs, lg, kakaos

they literally own everything, which is why phone stats aren't much for samsung stocks, it's like saying Apple sell a lot of usb cables when that's not their biggest thing

oh here's an english translation news site: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20230720000592

kids see it as the 'cool' phone, and koreans fall in line with whatever is cool harder than almost any demographic

it's why if you walk outside 99% of the cars are white/black or some variation of those 2 shades only

[unborn spruce]

Oh hell yeah. Nothing like a white car to show the world you’re cool. Most common paint imaginable on a car. Super unique.

Try any harder to blend into the crowd and you’ll fall through the membrane of reality where everything is perfectly homogeneous.

[hardy merlin]

My dream car is VW Golf Mk2 painted in pink-violet gradient with 2 black racing stripes lol

[crystal juniper]

yeah fitting in is huge in korea. It's really crazy how much they all pick 1 thing and all go in for it together

like if you go out to any nightlife area literally 2/3 of the people are wearing the same white t shirt and black pants combo

someone at some point decided that was the look for now

[unborn spruce]

It would blow my mind willingly being that boring.

I could not turn myself into a clone of 70% of society. Fuck that.

[hardy merlin]

A bit of sheep mentality
And popular != good

[unborn spruce]

Super weird.

Honestly the more I learn about various weird culture the more happy I am being Australian.

Our culture is that swearing is used as an adjective. That’s a good culture to have.

[crystal juniper]

i will say though if you live here you almost feel pressured to look decent when you go out

[hardy merlin]

Ya, decent, not like everyone else though, Imma wear what I'm comfortable in

[unborn spruce]

Lmfao really? All of the pressure of dressing well for a social occasion but all the time. Lovely.

[crystal juniper]

yeah it's just because they all dress up so much more as an average that it makes you feel underdressed half the time lol

everytime i go back to aus it's the first thing I notice "oh yeah... not everyone dresses up almost all the time here"

[unborn spruce]

Plus you immediately notice the swearing. Honestly that’s my fav bit about this culture.

[crystal juniper]

honestly speaking the big one is the fatness

you notice how many more overweight people there are in western countries

[unborn spruce]

In the US bloody is still considered a curse in some places. That shit is nuts to me.

[hardy merlin]

Ah swearing
🇦🇺 🤝 🇵🇱

[unborn spruce]

Yes.

[nimble current]

US be like no swearing or sex but guns guns guns and blowing people up a-ok

[hardy merlin]

But call someone a cunt...

[crystal juniper]

that's just saying hello

[unborn spruce]

Friendly gesture.

[still spire]

https://youtu.be/oE886TLHrfo?si=_Db46D9uhYhWbZI1

[orchid prism]

Time to go.... goblin mode.

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/oJruMcXpeRg

[feral ferry]

https://youtu.be/4UyAt2SZ5vc

[orchid prism]

Already posted once...but so damn good

Also strong spoilers.

[static island]

true

[feral ferry]

Really? Good to see a fellow eli_handle_b.wav enjoyer

On the topic of overediting

https://youtu.be/ENseKYEI6LY

I always compare eli_handle and Jonkari

And I could never decide which is better

They are both top tier editors that should work in Pixar or something

[orchid prism]

Oh heck yes

[feral ferry]

https://youtu.be/zs3bCkzQE9I

Like, the quality of the edits is so damn good

Makes me actually wonder who the hell is Ryan Gosling

[hot spire]

Which mod is that?

[feral ferry]

Just an impersonation of ionstorm66 irl

[orchid prism]

Many, though none of them showing here I believe.

Just clever use of the Bio DLC

[feral ferry]

https://youtu.be/Y30UOtKTLHs

[nimble current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOrhoj-2hYY

don't forget alternative cuts

[feral ferry]

@ashen lark Arms against tyranny is out

[ashen lark]

Ooo

If it wasn’t for the exam I have in a week

[feral ferry]

Also about 3 weeks left until cities skylines 2

[ashen lark]

I totally forgot I pre bought them

[sudden prawn]

Arena fps?

It was going to die reguardless

[bleak pike]

Knew it

It's just not a good game

[sudden prawn]

I like the gun play of apex/titanfall, but the movement is getting out of hand

High skill floor to even compete

[bleak pike]

It has to matny issues

I cant stand apex

Titanfall better

[sudden prawn]

Well it just because apex is a BR

Probably go back to team fortress 2 since scream fortress started

[orchid prism]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pkH63scGBlc

[ashen lark]

Oh wow the focus tree is absolutely overwhelming

[feral ferry]

Ngl I feel like there will be strats that have to be made cause I don't have enough time as Sweden to do everything

Allying with Germany or at least having to pander for them is basically mandatory

[ashen lark]

It’s crazy how many options they put in

[ashen lark]

I’ll try not to

I once almost defeated them as Norway

It’s tough but not impossible

[feral ferry]

Yeah but Sweden is in a really bad position now

[ashen lark]

Try Norway

[feral ferry]

Norway gets a civil war now as soon as Germans declare war

And Germans land in the ports of the places controlled by the civil war side that's allied to them

So just building seaforts no longer works

[ashen lark]

Why? That’s stupid

[feral ferry]

If you are Sweden, you have to ally with Norway or take their land before that happens

Cause Germans then just take Norway and have a massive land border with you lol

[orchid prism]

Sweden gets the vengabus. Just pure tanky silliness 😄

[feral ferry]

If you ever play Sweden, this is essentially a hard requirement and a must to rush

Like, if you don't rush this, they will just fuck you up

[feral ferry]

@ashen lark

So uh they have done something I have mixed feelings about

They have made the game faster, i.e more efficient

And I think it's way too darn fast

Took me like 20 mins to go from 1936 to 1939

Feels way too fast and unimmersive

[ashen lark]

Im surprised by how far I could build up the economy of Norway

Not focusing on the invasion much yet and it’s 1939 whoops

[feral ferry]

You can win

Multiple youtubers already did that challenge

It's even quite a bit easier tbf

The nordics are mega strong

[ashen lark]

32 civilian factories lol

I am going Democratic route

[feral ferry]

Sweden feels hardest just due to sheer amount of focuses needed to do anything

[ashen lark]

Norway has quite a few too tbf to get rid of the negative stuff

[feral ferry]

Essentially each Nordic country has an intended route imo

Norway is defense against axis, Sweden is unification or defense of nordics

Finland can VERY easily fight soviets

Denmark is... useless

[ashen lark]

I opted to delay the cue but no civil war started at all?

Weird

[fading spade]

this game is cute

lil foxxy with a thompson hehe

So far, 8BitDo are the only controller brand that advertise they work on Deck xd

I know pretty much all controlers do but this is nice to see

[slim token]

cs2 is a polished game

[warped badge]

This picture remind me of half life 1 source 😅

[deft bloom]

kek you can do the michael jackson peek with wooting

https://i.gyazo.com/c5589d9bb15418277c4afd6d4d910571.mp4

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/174y2jt/i_just_had_to_edit_it/ enemy pov

[static island]

wtf LOL

[fickle rapids]

Well. Does anybody play val? I am Bronze 2, and wanna find someone to play together

[dreamy rain]

Any games you guys can recommend

[unborn spruce]

I'll +1 that Noita recommendation.
For mine though?
NieR Automata, Backpack Hero, Synthetik, Nova Drift, Guild Wars 2, BPM: Bullets Per Minute, Bitburner, GTFO, Northgard, Planetside 2, and Splitgate.

Tried to avoid limelight games and push some good indies forward.

[severe compass]

Pseudoregalia is a great platforming indie game that'll take 4 hours

[static island]

tetris

if u dont mind the flaws, apotheon is fine too

[obtuse quail]

idk if I should buy an apex pro even though I have a wooting 2he because I can't use the binds I want to use due to not being able to remap keys to a scroll wheel input

[lunar pier]

Don’t the lekker switches feel better the build quality is better and your 2HE also sounds and performs better

[unborn spruce]

Minecraft server built with Go. That's the RAM usage for the server.

Kinda crazy since it's only 2 months old.

[barren pewter]

Phantom Liberty ending to main story is absolutely depressing

At least the one out of the at least two available

[unborn spruce]

There's 4.

[lucid brook]

what's the project's name?

[unborn spruce]

DynamiteMC. If you know Go you should absolutely get involved.

[barren pewter]

Then again, cyberpunk only really had depressing endings

[unborn spruce]

I got the good ending and it's really solid.

Very enjoyed.

[lucid brook]

what an awful name

[unborn spruce]

What would you have rathered? MCGoBrrrrrrt?

[lucid brook]

i remember this, it has been abandoned https://github.com/GoLangMc/minecraft-server

[barren pewter]

die immediately, die slowly, give body to new host so they may live a full life, be subjected to the same treatment in hopes of being revived and put in a fresh body later…ugh

[unborn spruce]

Yeah this was 100% Go, current one is Go with javascript compatibility.

[barren pewter]

Might I ask how you got it?

[unborn spruce]

DM you.

[orchid prism]

There is no such thing as a good ending in Cyberpunk.

[unborn spruce]

Phantom Liberty has one.

Truly.

[orchid prism]

No. It is poorly written, doesn't make any sense and is shit.

It's baked into the ruleset. You either die a quiet and meaningless dead like the common person, or you go out in a giant bang.

[barren pewter]

I fail to see how there can be a good ending

Game made it clear, V is entirely on a timer

Body is Johnny’s

[feral ferry]

Phantom Liberty has a good ending though

Or at least the best ending that V can get

Did they completely change how PL plays out or what did I miss

[unborn spruce]

The good ending is Johnny gets himself killed for V after having a character building spree.

PL endings won't be spoken of here.

But like...
They're either great or heartbreaking.

[feral ferry]

Like, I saw this

And it's like, no?

PL's ending is the best that we have

[orchid prism]

It really isn't.

Unless you consider survival above everything else "best"

[novel umbra]

vex maybe only knows the original endings?

[orchid prism]

Like I said - The alternate ending is poorly written, and that is a commonly shared opinion in the CB community. It has some weird choices that don't fit in with the game at all.

[unborn spruce]

I think so, yeah.

[novel umbra]

that one should be one that got added later on

[feral ferry]

Unless they changed the ending completely since the PL datamine, PL's ending is the best that V can get

[barren pewter]

ugh…that was my main gripe

losing everything just for that

[feral ferry]

I didn't play it yet, but PL should be the best ending

[barren pewter]

It is depressing

Sometimes life really can be not worth living

[unborn spruce]

Ngl I need to play more CP2077. Hardcore22 came out.

[small comet]

the best ending is where you become saboru arasaka and just live eternally

go out with as many bangs as you want

[novel umbra]

best ending is where you become subaru kawasaki

[maiden rampart]

did anyone get analogue working in cs2?

[orchid prism]

It doesn't help you.

[maiden rampart]

oh im sure it wont

I just wanted to mess around

but it seems like every time I map WASD to gamepad buttons in wootility it still acts digitally

im sure im missing something

ah disabling steam inputs in controller properties of csgo did it for me

[wise totem]

Smooth Criminal lets fucking gooo

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19495068

[fading spade]

THIS IS HILARIOUS :')

I wanna call this the Jackson Tilt

[plush sinew]

What the hell xD

[rich dagger]

https://twitter.com/thourcs/status/1711945884185796765?s=46&t=p3Mn-VjQxAKgL6m6-mGNiQ
you can apparently do this with a wooting which is what i wanna learn tbh

[still spire]

https://twitter.com/chillylofi/status/1711872869183918358

[maiden rampart]

I did try it after seeing the post linked here, it is very hard to do

its hard to lift the key to the right place and hold it there after starting at full momentum

[rich dagger]

you can use a cfg file too and hold alt for example and do it on any keyboard

wouldn't get too comfy with it though, valve tends to patch these things real fast

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1758gol/i_made_a_michael_jackson_cfg_so_you_can_michael/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[feral ferry]

https://vxtwitter.com/gamepasstracker/status/1711881419054600504

Hmmmm

Was Titanfall even good?

[hardy merlin]

Yeah
Just EA and Respawn didn't care
And servers were swarmed by hackers
Issues were fixed only lately

[feral ferry]

I think I played Titanfall 1

And it was some regular ass mech arena shooter

So I didn't play much of it, was really bored

But it could have been a different game than titanfall, reminds me of this franchise though

[hardy merlin]

It had some really satisfying movement mechanics
Apex Legends is what's left of Titanfall honestly

[orchid prism]

Titanfall 2 was a solid shooter.

It nailed FPS, it had parkour which felt really satisfying, it had giant mechs you'd get as the match went on, changing how the game was played, along with attack on titan like parkouring onto their backs to kill them - and AI footsoldier grunts which helped add life to the battlefield.

You were a pilot, an elite fighter - the grunts are merely there to help. Kind of like a Space Marine vs. a single Imperial Guard.

[hot spire]

Apex killed TF and it sucks

[young hill]

Titanfall player base is very much dead despite the maps being better

[young hill]

North Star client at least exists for Titanfall 2

Tons of servers on there

Has Titanfall even being patched

[orchid prism]

In what sense?

[young hill]

allegedly the second one is

[orchid prism]

Ah the vuln.

[hardy merlin]

I believe T|F2 got patched lately

[young hill]

Basically getting ddosed like GTA online

[orchid prism]

TF2 was patched with the custom clients at least (allegedly), don't know about vanilla

[hardy merlin]

You can ddos a potato?

[young hill]

Well people reported being unable to play

Not sure if you are familiar with GTA online

But script kiddies kick people from lobbies, freeze their game and in some special cases break the game causing a hard crash

[hardy merlin]

For what money Rockstar makes their servers should be better than a potato with 4 cables sticking out of it
I played some GTAO not that long ago, but mostly in private lobbies

[young hill]

Private lobbies are actually safe

Compared to friend lobbies

Script kiddies also have the ability to fake a rockstar club friendship therefore allowing to follow you around public and friend servers

[hardy merlin]

Like in Minecraft on non-premium servers? Holy hell

[young hill]

Xbox live seems actually safe

Besides the 360 version

Oof by the time I had an Xbox original Xbox live died

Worse than call of duty?

Yeah clans or a group seems safe

Only way I could play the disappointment most of the time called destiny 2

Yep

Sometimes do come across some toxic person or only toxic person in a group though

Remember one guy who I met in mortal Kombat 11 just wanting to use my character as a punching bag for combos and got actually mad when I beat him

[fading spade]

[static island]

what r those

[fading spade]

idk xd

hence the

[fringe salmon]

bluesky codes

[static island]

[fringe salmon]

no doubt already redeemed if its in a video

[static island]

what in the heck is a bluesky i dont wanna google it

[fringe salmon]

new twitter from previous twitter ceo

[fading spade]

uh

[static island]

oh wtf

[fringe salmon]

invite only for now while they scale out

and so far the most likely least worst alternative that people jump to

[orchid prism]

It's twitter but less toxic (so far)

[static island]

lets hope it stays that way

oh mansen if you wanna make some people simmer down https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1160371053823016990

[orchid prism]

That'll be the big question once it is no longer invite only.

[static island]

they've been going wild there for a while,,,

[static island]

true

[fringe salmon]

I mean just remake twitter without the changes musk made and its already better

just look at what he did and not do that

[static island]

twitter blue

[quiet vault]

forza motorsport might be a bit buggy and

😬

ye tbh im just annoyed by the applying upgrade bug

it doesn't save the race

kinda gamebreaking

[static island]

thats so bad

lets hope devs care enough

tom clancy's ghost recon breakpoint was also a mess after it released

[quiet vault]

but the driving feels much better then fm7

[static island]

devs updated it to make the game we were expecting later on
from a looter shooter garbo to proper tactical shooting experience where u can modify most of ur difficulty

[quiet vault]

forza games are like technically impressive

but they are not so good at the fun aspect

they seem pretty realistic

just low topspeed

[quiet vault]

ye i join them with da bumping

[fading spade]

what mob yall voting for?

[orchid prism]

None of them. All or nothing.

Don't give them a platform.

[barren pewter]

I just plan on playing 1.7.10 again

can install hundreds of mods getting me shitloads of mobs, and the features those mobs supposedly will add in

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vital wyvern]

I mean I'm not gonna vote but if I was it'd obviously be the emperor penguin

the other candidates don't actually even compare

ridiculous poll

[feral ferry]

There's a petition going on with some 450k signatures that's telling Mojang to fuck off with the mob votes

The game lacks content, they don't add much, and they are still mob voting

[fading spade]

I vote penguin cause

[vital wyvern]

guess that's more like macaroni penguin with the hair

[feral ferry]

So just embracing degradation

[vital wyvern]

I thought emperor ones had the funny hair

[orchid prism]

I'm honestly quite done with MC as a whole. That cthulhu survival MClike looks much more interesting.

[barren pewter]

peak minecraft

change my mind

[feral ferry]

There's nothing quite like it though

Well, not yet and the potential competitors seem to be struggling to release their projects

Hytale was the big "minecraft killer" that was hyped up years ago, still no launch

[fervent gulch]

Do yall use tachyon for valorant?

[feral ferry]

What's valorant

[fervent gulch]

Game

[orchid prism]

I'm not sure I want "it" though.

[feral ferry]

Valorant is game?

[fervent gulch]

Yes game

[feral ferry]

Sounds like cough medicine

"I prescribe you valorant"

[fervent gulch]

i got my kb today

so idk how to setup it right yet

Set it ip

Up

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_MzjMPFS-c

Now this - This I can get behind. No more focus on having everything be cube shaped,

[feral ferry]

Great, enjoy it

[young hill]

That fire effect looks so out of place

[feral ferry]

Which model, 60 or 2?

[fervent gulch]

60

[orchid prism]

Yes... because it isn't from ingame. Duh 😛

[feral ferry]

@fervent gulch https://wooting.io/wooting-60he-quickstart

[young hill]

Also #🌈│wootabase_profiles exists

[feral ferry]

Ew... just use https://profiles.wooting.io/

[fervent gulch]

Aight

Ty

[feral ferry]

Have fun buddyladoo

[quiet vault]

crab

[ashen lark]

@feral ferry why are my units with only a defensive area insistent on attacking units next to them despite me not ordering it

It’s causing a lot of losses

[feral ferry]

Explain further

[ashen lark]

Like I have a defensive order for units to protect ports

[feral ferry]

You made an area defense order, and soldiers are leaving it to fight enemies next to their positions?

[ashen lark]

It’s still in the area

[feral ferry]

That is literally how area defense order works

[ashen lark]

But they’re fighting on tiles that don’t have ports

I only want them to stand there haha

[feral ferry]

It's made that way to counter d-days

Try reducing flexibility to rigid or whatever it's called

[glad bridge]

hi

[feral ferry]

There's an UI button with dudes standing in a line, read the tooltip

Make them rigid

Maybe they won't leave

[ashen lark]

For me honestly what works way better is just having them in ports. Because even if 20 units land, if each my port has 4 units the enemies starve and can’t take it

[feral ferry]

But area defense orders are literally meant for soldiers to move inside of it if there's an enemy trying to threaten that zone, hence area defense

[ashen lark]

Lovely

[feral ferry]

Good for port guards

That looks good

[ashen lark]

But I only want to attack them once they’re more depleeted

Building your air defense with my 30 or so civilian factories rn, well anti air in locations

[feral ferry]

They landed in an area with no port, have no supplies and are suffering attrition

You have supply

Just kill them

[ashen lark]

Well they tried to land in the port

[feral ferry]

Bleed them dry

[ashen lark]

I just had units there that prevented it

[ashen lark]

It works even better to let them continue trying to attack the port until they starve more

[feral ferry]

That's literally 9 dead units lol

Area defense orders are great

[grizzled bramble]

Ooh missed that Cultic got a new map

''Get a taste of Chapter Two with the newly added Interlude story map!
Chapter Two will be available as paid DLC at a future date, and will continue the story of CULTIC!''

[ashen lark]

Seems like anti air is discourgaing them from being stupid

[grizzled bramble]

Also quite similar games 😆

[ashen lark]

How much does level 5 anti air actually help as I don’t seem to be shooting down planes

How many submarines should I have to employ them in waters around Norway @feral ferry

[feral ferry]

I had some 500

[deft bloom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/175nbfo/smooth_criminal_on_the_inferno_bells/

perfect

[ashen lark]

Finland declared war on me and it was supposed to be historical..

It’s not going well for them lmao

Sent 22 divisions of friends

They’re collapsing

Wdym white peace they lost like most of their land

That’s a fun white peace hen Norway got a huge bite of Finland lol

Lovely

[feral ferry]

You failed?

[deft bloom]

rip

[ashen lark]

Why are my units so under strength when I have like 60k weapon surplus yet most units lack weapons

[ashen lark]

Nope I took Finland

[feral ferry]

You sure they lack weapons?

[feral ferry]

Those naval invasions will get you

If Germans won't, then soviets will

[ashen lark]

@feral ferry is there any downside to total mobilization? Just noticed I have civilian economy and it seems to have no benefits

[feral ferry]

Look at the tooltips

Well actually that's the economy law not the conscription one

Confused it with scraping the barrel

Technically there are drawbacks with going with lower and lower economy laws but everyone goes to war economy anyways cause consumer goods sucks

The faster you get rid of consumer goods the better

[ashen lark]

Tbf I have surplus of everything and manpower holds me back I should have gone for tanks

[feral ferry]

Oh yeah total mobilization gives you -3% manpower

Don't do it

War economy is a must though

Typically you always want to go extensive conscription, war economy and free trade

If you are doing really badly, go down to scraping the barrel

Some people do actually go to total mobilization and then just take the women in the workforce decision to offset the manpower penalty

But that hits your stability so..ehh

Consumer goods are hella annoying though

[feral ferry]

Get a Chinese puppet

Puppets just give you free manpower, China is wonderful for that

[ashen lark]

Honestly at this point I have so many civilian factories all I can do with them is build more

All my core regions have full air defense

Also full infrastructure everywhere

And after defeating Finland I have a surplus of all war supplies

But Germany just took Moscow may want to help Russia out

[feral ferry]

You'll die if germany sneezes your way

You have like 40 divs tops?

[ashen lark]

19, disbanded most post immediate war as manpower lack

I only have extensive conscription

Still focusing on economy

Roleplaying a democracy lol

[feral ferry]

Don't involve yourself in any of those wars

You'll die with 19 divs

[ashen lark]

Well I am at war with Germany still

How would I not be

They just no longer have free units to attack me with

[feral ferry]

Dday will save you, germany is pretty weak this patch

[ashen lark]

It’s 43 and they just got Leningrad I need to move my troops to the border as Germany will soon border me

[feral ferry]

I suggest taking Denmark once allies invade Italy and France

[ashen lark]

Jul 43

[feral ferry]

Do not

[ashen lark]

But they’ll attack me

[feral ferry]

Finland is lost, you don't need it

[ashen lark]

I’ll try and if I can’t defend it I’ll reload a save lol

[feral ferry]

Build forts in the strait above sweden

There's mountains there and low supply, you can easily hold them off there

They'll take attrition and you can perpetually hold them off

Germans never declare war on sweden

If anything the more land Germans take, the better cause they have to occupy it and spend manpower on garrisons

Finland also has this really annoying mechanic with the DLC where finnish resistance inflicts serious damage upon garrisons

So I would prolly release Finland as a puppet, retreat to northern Norway fjords and let Germans starve themselves out

[ashen lark]

Am I blind or is there no artillery symbol for divisions I am sure there was one

[ashen lark]

I can’t due to other country owning some part of it apparently I didn’t notice they took a land. So I changed to no garrison and fled

[ashen lark]

I managed to get rid of that

[feral ferry]

There still should be

[feral ferry]

Scorch the land if you can

But yeah you are doing the right thing

[ashen lark]

I have 9 mountain special unit division and fort level 10 on the single mountain crossing point

Good luck to them lol

Also full anti air on land and anti air support for each division as I don’t have planes

I should have pupeted Finland ngl

Would have let me do the Nordic alliance research branch I think

[quiet vault]

damn its kinda dark outside

[ashen lark]

Btw I still didn’t get civil war, idk why but it just didn’t happen I guess bad party didn’t have enough support

[bleak pike]

You're in a simulation

[ashen lark]

I love how I have level 5 radar yet can’t see units next to my 9 unit army lol

What do u do with 1750 political power

[slim token]

let's see if the uprising works

[ashen lark]

I think that only extensive conscription is holding me back from doing anything but defense

[slim token]

steam tweaking

[bleak pike]

What

[slim token]

people trying to sabotage the vote

[quiet vault]

for crab pls

[slim token]

for all of them

[ashen lark]

What day? It’s 1946 and there was non lol

[mental ether]

@everyone https://youtu.be/TRCX0RZvgNw

[barren pewter]

so glad global pings can't just be done by anyone here

because no one gives two shits about your channel, and attempting to annoy everyone about it doesn't actually help

[green dune]

Not bad for the first stage.

[feral ferry]

Idk what kind of fucked save are you playing on

On my swedish game the allies completely took Italy by 1943

[wise totem]

someone have a Blinding of Isaac set up

[orchid prism]

Just make a profile with all controller keybinds and set the profile to disable keyboard.

[still spire]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/bandai-namco-fights-frights-and-fantasy

[novel umbra]

https://twitter.com/ThourCS/status/1711945884185796765

wooting meta in cs again

[unique bane]

https://streamable.com/48lmxh

[fallow bronze]

lol

[bleak pike]

Ffs hahaha

https://reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/5FkSBWEMGf

[deft bloom]

aware

[orchid prism]

[feral ferry]

So is condomhead man the official mascot of Counter Strike?

[novel umbra]

ahs been for a while

[feral ferry]

Where are my condomheadman plushies?

Or figurines?

Need dem merch

[deft bloom]

well there's this

[small comet]

the frigg is that nightmare

[novel umbra]

could be some indie horror game plushy

[orchid prism]

[novel umbra]

also valve stopped selling merch a while ago

[feral ferry]

He said the word fuk

[novel umbra]

and stopped making new one quite a while longer

idk

wait a year

maybe they go up

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPB3Q59vjR8

If you ever needed a quick primer on 40K. Boy does Bricky do it justice.

[still spire]

31 minutes is too long

There's a MUCH better way to learn 40K lore

Emperors Text to Speech

😛

[orchid prism]

Naw. That's just tiny bits.

[still spire]

Easier to digist

[orchid prism]

This is engaging. Those 30 minutes will pass fast.

[still spire]

Digest*

Swealteirng abs

[orchid prism]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eoHsPPmLtLI

When the main antagonist is a Naturo weeb

[barren pewter]

CS2 mac port cancelled

🖕

[small comet]

old news?

didnt we already talk about that in the beginning of this week?

[barren pewter]

no, more that it was kinda pushed back indefinitely, to be released at later date

now it is officially not happening

[small comet]

i remember talks about refunds for mac users beginning of this week

same for 32 bit windows users

might have been another discord

[feral ferry]

He's late

We talked about it, I posted it

#🎮│game message

[fringe salmon]

Yup they said mac and some other cases account for less than 1% of users

So not worth the dev time

Mac, 32bit and directx9 users combined are <1%

[still spire]

https://youtu.be/hCnxAg8YisY Playing this with a controller, oof

[feral ferry]

Whoa whoa whoa man

Don't insult dx9 like that

Dx9 best dx

Second only to dx11

[young crow]

🤨

[still spire]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8NofrQbEAAinOp?format=jpg&name=medium It's happening!

[wise totem]

its a mac there is like 2 capcom games and thats it

[feral ferry]

BUT MUH MAC

Well they have.. Baldurs Gate 3

And.. uh

Yeah that's about it

[barren pewter]

and Metro Exodus
and minecraft

[feral ferry]

So nothing of worth

[barren pewter]

Hades
No Man's Sky

[wise totem]

its such a small piece of the market no one can be asked to port stuff to it

if it were bigger sure

[feral ferry]

I'd use Mac if they bothered to make the platform actually work well with games

[wise totem]

like macOS isn't a popular operating system for computers

and the people who do run it don't run it for games

they usually have a main pc

for gaming

[heavy gull]

I’ve never tried cloud gaming but maybe that would be an option?

[feral ferry]

Well, yeah it would be

[wise totem]

if you have great internet don't mind delay and live close to a server sure

but until downloads speeds are 2gb's and you are playing in the server room then no

[heavy gull]

Ah fair

[deft bloom]

seems to be fine for singleplayer games, not for anything competitive

[quiet vault]

why does forza keep using british variants of german cars :(

[barren pewter]

likely that they're reusing models from FH4
which naturally would have british variants of german cars

[quiet vault]

no new cars

and even for us variants they should atleast offer mph and kmh

[vital wyvern]

how about linux build

[barren pewter]

:(
still supported

which is just...wut
I mean I guess it makes sense, CS on deck

[vital wyvern]

does it yet work

I remember a few weeks ago it was unplayable on linux

[fringe salmon]

yes seems to work like a day or week after launch

[trim rock]

It worked fine for me even at launch, just had to do some clever workaround to get audio working. Then it stopped working and I haven't tested recently

Well, "fine". Smoke wasn't rendering properly

[fringe salmon]

biggest issue with mac is that apple refuses to properly to proton or otherwise support valve and co in porting

their game porting kit works but basically uses open source stuff while pretending its their own

limited in how to use etc.

just the apple way of making shit complicated for no reason so devs say fuck no to that

[tough jay]

Apple also has shown little interest in porting steam itself to apple's arm and I don't think they will bother porting source to metal.

[fringe salmon]

ít's a very apple like but still very weird state

like they want to force it to happen but only on their conditions

[tough jay]

Which works if you have leverage, but in pc gaming they really do not have a lot of that.

[fringe salmon]

yup

and with next years chips they also lose out the node advantage and similar for mobile chips aside from maybe super low power for phones

so its not like they can leverage superior hardware capabilities either

[fringe salmon]

apple has made it difficult on purpose by kinda blocking proton to also just run on mac

why make it working if you have almost no users and the platform is just trying to give you the middle finger

[novel umbra]

Wdym it does run

And macos has the opposite for being a gaming os

[fringe salmon]

sure and if you recall I do quite support the basic premis of epic opening that up and all, doesnt change that apple is anything but accomodating to make it run simpler

[novel umbra]

How many metal native games are there even

I remember wgen apple made ot sound like the m1 was faster in gaming than a 3070

[heavy gull]

lol

[rancid hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yasOmK8wrR0

[orchid prism]

Shitty employer.

[feral ferry]

Asmongold 🤢

[orchid prism]

He has his moments, especially in short form. But I couldn't watch a whole stream. Even back when I lived and breathed FF14 and he was all about that.

[feral ferry]

Isn't he from a WoW/Runescape background?

One of those MMOs

[orchid prism]

WoW yeah. Really hardware, sweaty raiding kind of dude.

[feral ferry]

When Asmon was all about that, he was fine

But the reaction/leech transition is bleh

xQc is getting even more slimy and scummy, his latest response to his low effort basically money stealing from creators behavior was "idgaf"

[orchid prism]

Never hid the fact that he was a base dweller, and I guess that worked. Cause he's the CEO of a streaming house and that custom PC corporation.

But yeah - Reaction content is parasitical for the most part, though I will mention that at least HE comments and provides some thoughts. There's so many reaction channels that just watch the stuff and don't do shit with it.

Might as well be a watch party.

[rancid hearth]

for this video he has a full on talk with the person who got fired

[orchid prism]

👍

[fringe salmon]

holy shit its real, the silver option on maps exists

@meager stump

[junior vigil]

Hey that’s my name

[fringe salmon]

@orchid prism the minion that dropped sells for 15 million

[orchid prism]

That's almost as much as I earned from weeks of grinding the cookie exploit pre-endwalker.

Think I made 18-19mil before it was removed.

Oh and selling those daily maps.

[fringe salmon]

yup and in all my maps this is the first time I see it land on silver xd

also not really an exploit, cookies were just too good xD

[orchid prism]

Eh... I guess. Never actually used one of those maps. Stubborn solo player at the time 😄

[fringe salmon]

you can solo it xd

just gotta have the gear/right class for it

[orchid prism]

Alas I was not a sweaty warrior solo main at the time. I did level it for Endwalker and bought the scythe transmog though 😄

[fringe salmon]

haha yeah warrior is a bit broken for that

[orchid prism]

It was quite fun to use in dungeons.

[fringe salmon]

yup

[orchid prism]

Still torn on which of the tank classes I prefer the most. I remember liking the flow of Gunbreaker. But Warrior is just pure meme.

Started with Dark Knight, so kind of biased there as well.

[fringe salmon]

warrior is just best for anything, dark knight is fun just a bit of a struggle in dungeons depending on the healer

gunbreaker is awkward because the no mercy burst window sucks because you cant do all your skill in your own buff window lol

but you can scare the healer with 1hp

also dark knight has fray so that's just a natural bonus xd

[orchid prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyqK2Tsujho

ChatGPT used in the only ethical way

[fading spade]

.......

Granny but vampire

why is the main menu so horny?

[bleak pike]

Velinas room lol

[fading spade]

https://youtu.be/-0_Rm4udFtI

[deft bloom]

• Fixed the "Smooth Criminal" foot pinning bug

sad

[fringe salmon]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/730/view/6688466724226140706 yeah rip

[deft bloom]

finally finished my bg3 playthrough

only took 152 hours

[unique bane]

should've left it bc bhop is nerfed

and russian walk is nerfed

[fading spade]

I need these boots

[barren pewter]

I both need those boots and someone wearing those boots to step on me

[unique bane]

ill come

[fading spade]

uwu

If you buy me the boots, Ill do it!

1th

[deft bloom]

mike tyson?

[meager stump]

[deft bloom]

https://twitter.com/cs2newshere/status/1712590018126995899 -michael jackson +shakira

[deft bloom]

great

[unborn spruce]

The fuck is this mega asset flip?

[fading spade]

LOL

[still spire]

https://vxtwitter.com/lotfgame/status/1712571001416876159

Meanwhile all the reviews are saying it does have Denuvo

So weird ass situation

[still spire]

Amazing not a 18 plus game, but no doubt such a version exists

[short folio]

i need 1 person in euw for flex any rank mid

[orchid prism]

https://www.pcgamer.com/heroes-of-might-and-magic-3-is-having-a-crossover-with-world-of-warships-for-some-reason/

I am fully convinced that the folks in charge of WoWs marketing are taking ALL of the space drugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gDUTFGLshA

[novel umbra]

wtf

I think it is pretty popular in russia

[orchid prism]

Uh sure. But it's a game from before the 2000s.

They've made like... ten games since

[novel umbra]

yea ik

I think they did not like the later ones though

[orchid prism]

Inevitability of making sequels. The 3rd game is considered a GOTY and highly nostalgic. Anything past that was 3D and never managed to evoke the same kind of feeling.

[still spire]

https://fxtwitter.com/yasudaD5/status/1712619161275269424

Lmao what the fuck

Lazy gits

[novel umbra]

what

[still spire]

They were remaking Lolipop Chainsaw

But instead, said fans demanded a remaster

So no more remake

Just a remaster

[novel umbra]

what

why would people want a remaster

instead of a remake

[still spire]

I mean, I'd be fine with a Remaster + Remake

Just for archivial

[novel umbra]

where they that afraid that the dev would change up content or something

[still spire]

lmao nah this is bullshit

They just got lazy

Said fuck it

Remaster it is

[orchid prism]

Why would you want either...

[still spire]

Also a lot of content is being pulled due to "licensing" issues

I dunno, I heard it's actually a fun game

Though I never played it

He makes weird games, I want a Shadows of the Damned Remaster too

That game was fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mo4wrpPgLE

Think of it as Dantes Inferno but parody

[feral ferry]

It is a VERY popular game in eastern europe

We still have tournaments for it

[orchid prism]

And actually playable on a literal toaster.

[novel umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZc-ZKz0p8U

or my favorite gaming device

quite overkill for that game tho

[feral ferry]

Ayo https://vxtwitter.com/cmagovuk/status/1712710591008157755

[tough jay]

Tried neither doom nor crysis, 0 out of 10

[novel umbra]

the way to run crysis on android is horrid

afaik still is running it on a half baked at best switch emulator

[tough jay]

I know, just mostly joking, could have run doom at least.

Of course it would do so without much effort but still.

[nimble current]

what in the fever dream is this

[nimble current]

ment this, fucking discord didn't scroll down again

[orchid prism]

[nimble current]

weegee getting creative when it comes to trying and save their sinking game

[novel umbra]

their sinking (war)ship

[nimble current]

maybe just roll back the bullshit that caused the problems

just a thought

but nah weegee always right spreadsheet says people like the game tovarish no changes nescessary

[novel umbra]

kinda funny how much they got rolled by warthunder

even though that game still has a ton of issues

[nimble current]

yeah wg model of separate games for every type of war machine is looking a bit dated by now vs wt

sure we can theoretically get more focus and detail on each branch that way but still creates split up communities

its like they going squarely towards the 30+ crowd with this one, HOMM3 was a childhood staple of mine

[novel umbra]

[still spire]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1_1caAT2_Xw?feature=share Lol thjis game is really just anime spiderman

[deft bloom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/176smpk/they_definitely_fixed_the_smooth_criminal_bug/ aaaaaaaand it's back

[feral ferry]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/3747614808335925159

Why "actually", and.. sounds pretty pog?

AMD plays well with undervolting

I just like this line in general, Ponies are great

[drifting rose]

undervolting an AMD card used to be ass on linux, kudos for improving it

[neon forge]

https://youtu.be/AYU4q594LJ0?feature=shared

Acquisition went through

[feral ferry]

Indeed it has

[quiet vault]

I hope they add overwatch to gamepass 😜

[mellow maple]

fr

[quiet vault]

wait if they add it to Microsoft store tho

I wouldn't need steam anymore

[bleak pike]

Seeing wow on the Xbox channel is bizarre

[feral ferry]

A lot of people are hoping for WoW on GamePass

That would be... really cool

[bleak pike]

It would be

[feral ferry]

https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1712818483442987422

Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier)

As the Microsoft-Activision deal closes, Bobby Kotick says he'll stay on as CEO through the end of the year. On January 1, 2024, Kotick will depart the company he took over 33 years ago — a massive change for the video game industry

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Good

Well... not good

https://vxtwitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1712820742046245031

GIVE BACK THE MONEY

[fringe salmon]

why would he give back any money

he needs to be in prison and they should take it away

[quiet vault]

huh

[fringe salmon]

oh hes just deplorable human gargabe that has money and connections to evade prosecution

[bleak pike]

Ha ye fuck him

https://vxtwitter.com/PeterP_85/status/1712818374139424936?t=b6vIppDSYUF94Fg-jZMysw&s=19

Xd

[grizzled bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmABK2Chwe0

[ebon osprey]

https://fxtwitter.com/CounterStrike/status/1712875606776729832
yo wtf

[orchid prism]

[trim rock]

Nice

[feral ferry]

https://videocardz.com/newz/use-of-amd-anti-lag-technology-in-counter-strike-2-will-result-in-a-vac-ban-valve-confirms

H.. how

Did they fuck that up so hard

[nimble current]

a mate also had issues with amd crash detection crashing a game he played

gotta get those systems in order ayyyymd

[feral ferry]

Certain games do be like that

[static island]

wtf?

[trim rock]

Lemme guess, ARK?

[tough jay]

Antilag + bans are probably in the top for stupidist things recently.
It is generally well known that messing with these things will trigger anti-cheats.
Could be a communication issue where valve says is fine but it really isn't atm.
Or amd messed up in general.

[feral ferry]

I wouldn't play something that boring

[ebon osprey]

#🎮│game message
this is official valve

[tough jay]

Yes, but internal communications around a messy launch like that could muddy things.

[ebon osprey]

thats very true, but valve is publicly stating its not ok at least

[tough jay]

I mean AMD just pushing ahead is more likely but I wouldn't exclude it.

In general the driver level approach when whitelisted could be scaled more easily to other games.

[ebon osprey]

yep, and at least rawaccel for example already has been whitelisted

[unique bane]

Imagine AMD enabling it on driver side before valve has whitelisted it

LMFAO

[ebon osprey]

isnt that car now multiple million dollars?

ah nvm they are often around a quarter mil, the new ones are the expensive ones

[quiet vault]

das a cheap countach

[bleak pike]

This is how i felt when i got my rtx 3080 haha

i was absolutely skint as a lot of things fell through

[orchid prism]

Gotta love that era of "get it out the door no matter what" games.

[fading spade]

this song is a pain to full combo

BUT I DID IT

[static island]

woah

[deft bloom]

borat

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1775lfi/if_cs2_was_made_by_riot_games/

now this is pretty high effort

[still spire]

https://twitter.com/CounterStrike/status/1712875606776729832

CS2 (@CounterStrike)

AMD's latest driver has made their "Anti-Lag/+" feature available for CS2, which is implemented by detouring engine dll functions.

If you are an AMD customer and play CS2, DO NOT ENABLE ANTI-LAG/+; any tampering with CS code will result in a VAC ban.

Once AMD ships an update we…

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Twitter · Oct 13, 2023, 4:59 PM

[trim rock]

Already was discussed here, scroll up

[still spire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1776uq4/just_got_9999_euro_in_my_steam_wallet/

[proud vortex]

Hi, I’m competitive CS2 player and willing to join Wooting Clan, also I work on a job that seriously need to use full size keyboard and I has already search/research all of msgs in this discord for every concerned things like for ex. wether 60he and two he is diff?, wether the 2y and 4y warranty are something to worried or take concern or not and ETC.
So, I think lastly before I decide to press the purchase button just need some little real experiences from all of you guys who play seriously competitive on CS2 game and using Wooting especially if with Wooting 2HE would be a great specific experiences sharing for me for decision.

Ps. I already own and using/experienced 4-5 years popular mechanical key board (blue switch)

Thanks in advanced 🙂

[unborn spruce]

I don't play comp but the board feels instantaneous. There just isn't drift on a strafe, for example. Whatever your ETF reaction time is what the minimum reaction time of the keyboard is.

As for Two HE vs 60? They're both HE switches, iirc they have no differences aside from size.

[bleak pike]

Mad

[tough jay]

I do wonder what the long-term implications of this are.
Yes they own a lot of IP / studio's but at the same time made them less profitable.
Especially with game pass the cost of game pass for Microsoft has gone up substantially which either means they need a lot more subscribers or a much higher asking price.

[feral ferry]

Interesting tidbit on Bethesda

I love that they are literally doubling down on heavy mod support

It does wonders for game longevity

Starfield not being a platform, not sure if that's just cause it has only one game released, or if they planned Starfield as a one-off

I wonder how long till the acquisition pays itself

[tough jay]

They are probably writing it as is, there are not enough mods for it to be called as such at the moment.

[feral ferry]

20 years maybe? More?

[orchid prism]

The game doesn't have an official modding toolkit yet.

So there's that

[feral ferry]

Well by Platform, don't they mean that it's an established IP?

Nor Forza nor Sea of Thieves have mods?

Then again is there a Sea of Thieves franchise?

Bit of a weird nomenclature, not too sure what it means

[orchid prism]

Platform for... microtransactions and DLC?

[tough jay]

Either way I personally have my doubt of the long-term benefit for microsft at all.

[orchid prism]

Starfield doesn't have either - yet

[feral ferry]

A lot of projects that do have DLC don't have the platform label

[orchid prism]

shrug

[feral ferry]

Yeah idk either

[orchid prism]

Which? I don't see any.

[feral ferry]

Doom has DLC, I think Rage had DLC, Prey had DLC, Dishonored had DLC, Outer Worlds I think had DLC?

We Happy Few had numeral DLCs

[orchid prism]

Yes?

[feral ferry]

Don't have a platform label

[orchid prism]

Oh I see what you mean.

Vague marketing vapor

[novel umbra]

I'd assume franchising in general?

[feral ferry]

As for microtransactions, maybe that makes sense?

Skyrim creation store, fallout had creation store

[novel umbra]

they used sea of thieves a lot for special eiditons of stuff

[feral ferry]

Minecraft Bedrock has a store

[orchid prism]

Doom is a Franchise.

[tough jay]

I feel like platform is mostly games as a service a broad definition of that

[novel umbra]

huh

fair

[feral ferry]

Does either Halo or Gears of War have MTX's?

[novel umbra]

they also call starcraft and warcraft plattforms though

[novel umbra]

halo has for mp

and I think gow5 did as well

[orchid prism]

Both have transactions

[novel umbra]

what

[feral ferry]

State of Decay I think has an MTX store

[novel umbra]

do they?

warcraft 3 reforged did not afaik

[feral ferry]

So I suppose the "platform" label is just for in-game cash shops

[novel umbra]

and the last title before that is ancient

[orchid prism]

Add world of and you'll get there

[novel umbra]

sc2 did not either

ah

[orchid prism]

Wrong

[novel umbra]

didn't see they don't list wow

[feral ferry]

These 2 are confusing

[novel umbra]

huh

[orchid prism]

Starcraft's had voice packs, skins and so on for years.

[feral ferry]

Afaik AoE has no MTX's

[novel umbra]

oh

[feral ferry]

Just DLCs

[novel umbra]

didn't know that

[feral ferry]

And wtf is Age of Mythology?

[tough jay]

AOM was the one that puzzled me most on that list

[orchid prism]

The mobile games and mobile gamey ones did.

[orchid prism]

A fantasy gods spinoff. Greek gods, Egyptian and so on.

[novel umbra]

old ms strategy game which they announced a successor of

[novel umbra]

was supposed to be a sequel to age of empire

did not end up being a sequel

[tough jay]

Age of Mythology was really great, highly recommend it.

[feral ferry]

So I'm guessing the successor is going to have microtransactions then

[orchid prism]

Can't call something ahistorical a sequel 😄

AOE3 became a sequel.

[novel umbra]

not like age of empire is really historical either

[orchid prism]

It didn't feature avatars of gods though. Kind of a important distinction.

[feral ferry]

Well, back to this though

How much did they spend, not shy of 70 billion?

[novel umbra]

they mention multiple engine experts

but not the playground engine ones

[novel umbra]

I mean you can see how much they expanded their employees alone with this

getting this many skilled people at once is a BIG thing

[feral ferry]

I don't see Microsoft at all recovering those costs, it's 70 billion

Who even pockets the 70 billion?

Surely not Kotick

[novel umbra]

from like ~5k to over 20k

[tough jay]

It is also a curse as you need to manage all of the, all those employees need to remain profitable.

[novel umbra]

he gets 400 million just fyi

[feral ferry]

Yeah but Microsoft acquired a company for 70 billion...

Who gets the money?

Shareholders?

[novel umbra]

shareholders

that sell their shares

they buy a company by buying shares

[feral ferry]

So I'm assuming Microsoft didn't even fully acquire it then?

Only majority stake?

[novel umbra]

idk

doesn't make a difference

[tough jay]

Take Sega managing CA for example, little oversight that probably resulted in a absolutely hopeless money pit of a project and other bad strategic choices.
Meanwhile Microsoft excluded a portion of the customer base on Playstation and also Lowered for now profitability of the individual games on GamePass.

yes a somewhat larger fraction of what people want to play is on gamepass

[feral ferry]

Idk why Microsoft felt the need to acquire Actijizz tbf

Phil Spencer's pet project to prove himself useful?

[tough jay]

If it blows up on them it will probably not be fast but it may very well happen in the next 5-10 years

[novel umbra]

because "xbox ain't got no games"

that was what people said about last gen

which performed bad sales wise

and current gen still performs bad

so they are prob pressured to "get games"

[feral ferry]

Tbf I play more Xbox games than Sony games

[novel umbra]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

[feral ferry]

But Sony games always seem bigger than Xbox ones for some reason

[novel umbra]

out of those 11 titles I'd expect 3-4 to still get a pc release

[feral ferry]

It's weird cause I couldn't care less about Spider Man, FF or Demon's Souls, but Horizon seems kinda cool

[novel umbra]

yea but all of those will prob also get pc releases

[tough jay]

At this point consoles have slowly become worse pc's

[novel umbra]

eh

not quite

for people that just get home from their 9 to 5

and want to play a game

[feral ferry]

Tbf with Sony refocusing on PC market, I'm not sure what's even the point of getting a console

[novel umbra]

with as little brain activity involved in getting it running

consoles are a great deal

imo game pass also is a pretty good deal

and price/performance current gen consoles are prob better than they have been in a while

[feral ferry]

Sony's game pass equivalent substitute is a pretty shit deal

[novel umbra]

yup

I mean they admitted that themselves in front of the fcc

they can't compete with gamepass (supposedly)

[tough jay]

In terms of games pc is the broader choice and we have been seeing a shift where console gaming is becoming smaller comparitively.

[novel umbra]

yet people still buys ps5s

[feral ferry]

Same reason people buy Intel and Nvidia really, word of mouth and popularity

[novel umbra]

would be my guess

not to mention ps5 build issues

[feral ferry]

Can't beat what most people in the world already have an established positive image of

[novel umbra]

newest gen has the cooler glued on

I wish I was joking

[feral ferry]

Considering I grew up with a PSX and a PS2 and have never even seen an Xbox in my life until Series S, I should be stanning Sony quite a lot

But ngl can't get behind their anti-competitive practices

[novel umbra]

with shitty glue as well

and it likes to fall off

not to mention the issues people were having with the liquid metal already

will only get worse once the consoles get older

[feral ferry]

What's up with Xbox engineering quality always being a notch above Playstation's?

Those Xbox controllers are sick

Well the red ring of death notwithstanding

[novel umbra]

would not say always

but the series x is impressive imo

only thing that sucks is storage expansion

[feral ferry]

What are we thinking about the supposed Series X refresh that looks weirdly curved

[novel umbra]

there are adapters so you can use off the shelfs SSDs

but they need very specific formatting

[novel umbra]

you mean the one that is just a cylinder

[feral ferry]

Well, half of it