🎮│game

[unborn spruce]

Wow so Fable might be recovered eventually.

[fringe salmon]

Yeah but then it’s not as impressive as this run and then it’s not looking as if it’s much more skill than a cs player

[unborn spruce]

Mudda, best TM player ever, had to spend 800 hours doing this before he got it. The sheer skill required to ace Deep Fear is insane and puts damn near everything ever done in CS to utter shame.

[fringe salmon]

Again that is a completely different stillest though

[unborn spruce]

Never mind ace Deep Fear. Bro had to ace an optimised run since a pure ace is around 15 minutes.

He was having to inject speed slides in any place possible.

[fringe salmon]

Like you can’t say TM has adjustment and then continue the example where there are none xD

[unborn spruce]

Especially the last checkpoint which was causing problems since he was often too fast. 714 speed and you crash, 712 and you don’t make it.

[unborn spruce]

Adjustment in TM is usually modern titles where that’s part of the game. Old titles are purely deterministic.

That’s what makes them such a brutal grind and skill check.

[deft bloom]

this is impossible to follow to anyone who hasn't played the game, lol

[unborn spruce]

Ikr.

[fringe salmon]

Yeah but in a map like this the skillset is so different from CS you can’t say it shits on CS comp play skill

[unborn spruce]

If you’ve touched TMNF ever you immediately have worlds of respect for anyone that can ace Deep Fear much less do it in less than 10 minutes.

[deft bloom]

you could literally type anything and people would still have no idea what the fuck you are on about

[unborn spruce]

Freakish skill.

[unborn spruce]

Mm that’s not exactly what I said. I said comp wise TM shits on CS, specifically in terms of grind and determination.

[fringe salmon]

Yeah which is just wrong lol

[unborn spruce]

Again I really don’t think there’s another game that quite enforces perfectionism like TM does. Very good players naturally, but not sheer perfectionism.

Not when a single track takes nearly a thousand hours.

[fringe salmon]

Like you can’t have perfectionism in csgo because you can’t train for hours what the enemy does because you never know

You can have the best setups but there will always be eng from humans opposing you

[deft bloom]

can they even do it live? what's the point if they can just grind until they get it right one run

[unborn spruce]

Yeah.

[deft bloom]

a better comparison would be like KZ in csgo

[unborn spruce]

Lots of lobbies get hosted by FTW for like mass skip and speedrun grinding.

And a lot of streamers like Mudda, well they stream.

[deft bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5bvwOhUNlE something like this

[unborn spruce]

Mmm, and RNG can be fun to watch but I’m still yet to see the sheer insane grind that the TM players are throwing in at their peak.

[fringe salmon]

So like the top csgo teams don’t exist or what

Like grind for cs also means you are interacting with teammates to get a good talk going, be fit due to lots of travel and all

[deft bloom]

how is team vs team rng now?

[unborn spruce]

The top CS teams in no possible way going to be competing with FTW if you’re talking determination. FTW is built way different.

[fringe salmon]

The rng of what the other humans does, the good kind for competitive games

You can grind TM for 30k in your basement and suddenly have the best time you can’t grind that in cs

[unborn spruce]

Filtered best of the best players in human history for TM that routinely organise groups to hunt records. The equivalent is getting every best player from every best CS team and grouping them.

[unborn spruce]

What point even is this trying to make…?

[fringe salmon]

That it’s BS saying csgo players don’t grind as much just because they might have 100 hours gameplay less

[unborn spruce]

Right so google failed.

Going by quick maths we can roughly estimate a lower and upper bound for Mudda. His lower bound hours are in the range of 29k assuming everything he does takes 120 hours, his upper bound is nearish 55k hours.

Depends on the average. It’d take AGES to math it properly.

[deft bloom]

I mean it's not true rng, of course you can't fully control what your opponents or even your teammates decide to do, but that's not really randomrandom

[unborn spruce]

Idk. Mudda does a lot of fullspeed stuff and those are usually quick to finish with brutally tight timings, but the records take forever.

[fringe salmon]

Over how many years

[unborn spruce]

Grinding out a really complex map might take a few hundred hours or so.

[unborn spruce]

Well he’s 25 rn and he’s been playing TM since the dawn of when he could be a legit human that isn’t basically a flesh mass. Idk the exact date when he started but young.

[deft bloom]

that'd be 6 years in-game. when did he start playing?

[unborn spruce]

Best answer I can find is as a kid.

[deft bloom]

and there's only 24 hours a day, if he grinds 12 hours a day that'd take already 12 years

press x to doubt

[unborn spruce]

Going a bit further over his history is odd.

He doesn’t play anything else.

Like anything.

First actual tourney was 2015, as far as I can tell he was competing near FWO levels during 2012~ from logs over at TrackmaniaExchange.

This has hbox vibes.

[fringe salmon]

Simple has 7354 hours in the last two years and 6 months

[deft bloom]

maybe ask him on twitter or something if you're interested, your estimations aren't in the physical realm either way

[unborn spruce]

Hence lower and upper bound. I averaged his WR grind time and multiplied it by his total WRs.

Threw some healthy +- in to be safe.

Like not everything he does is going to be Deep Fear.

I mean he point blank told everyone he’s perma uninstalling TMNF because of Deep Fear.
Can’t blame the guy.

[deft bloom]

understandable

[unborn spruce]

Worth it tho. Like D-12 Speed might be broken, but nah no way is Deep Fear getting broken.

That’s more than likely what that record is going to remain forever. Or at least for a turbo long time since I’m sure nobody wants to challenge a 2 year grind with the peak of TM speed comp at his peak for 2 years.

Maybe tho. Like E-04 got broken after what? 14 years of record? That got broken by pure RNG and the grind was like 8 months since it was around 21,600 attempts. Maybe someone comes back to Deep Fear in a decade or two when it's the most prestigious record in the game history.

[orchid prism]

Throwing builds in BG3 are so broken. And so frustrating to use due to UI limitations. But I had a lot of fun creating halfling thor.

[small comet]

you mean a Hafþór

[orchid prism]

[small comet]

Born: November 26, 1988 (age 34 years), Reykjavík, Iceland
Height: 2.06 m
Weight: 181 kg```

thats a dnd spec sheet if i ever saw one

[barren pewter]

fuck he’s hot

[orchid prism]

He's twice as tall as this bloke though 😄

[small comet]

dw hafthor will be one day as well

[feral ferry]

https://support.cdprojektred.com/en/cyberpunk/pc/sp-technical/issue/2509/patch-2-01-coming-soon

Bigger patch than what Bethesda released in 2 patches already

Beth has some skeleton crew working on Starfield or something, cause patches are not coming out

[barren pewter]

rofl

I've only encountered a few tiny issues with phantom liberty so far

Bethsoft games are dumpster fires at launch and they get way less fixes than this SINGLE patch for Phantom Liberty

also more gigs
fuckin dope

Pacifica had one...entire gig in the base game xD

how to tell me you put not too much thought into a region of the map
without telling me you put not too much thought into a region of the map

but...hey
Dogtown exists, and...I'm already blown away

[orchid prism]

Pacifica was basically a dead area, after an amazing setup and a short stint of main story stuff

Also that damn Portal reference.

[novel umbra]

so games run worse

so you get over 1080p

on a 7" screen

[small comet]

wait you dont constantly compare games that way?

i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyyJ6vLB0us

this is the real comparison

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ThCWxb3IK_Q

tl;dw minor graphical differences

[tough jay]

Another code has a lot more charm on the DS, the switch version looks rather bland.

[tough jay]

Horny weeb shit is what a long time ago mostly stopped me from watching anime.
Stein's Gate was fine content wise but man the fan service really killed it.
Not saying there are no good ones but it really signalled a time where me watching anime became rare.

This does not hornly though, just rather soulless.

[bleak pike]

https://www.ign.com/articles/renewed-concern-for-star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-remake-as-trailers-and-tweets-are-culled

😦

[orchid prism]

Good.

If you're not going to do both together, don't bother.

[hot spire]

Do dagger fall vs skyrim

Atleast elite was vector 3d

[amber tide]

roblox thinks my wooting is a controller

its giving me controller controls

💀

[hot spire]

because it is

[amber tide]

what

[feral ferry]

It's interesting how people are completely unaware they bought an analog keyboard lol

Well that's what the original marketing was all about

[orchid prism]

[feral ferry]

With HE it's the speed

Gamer!

[amber tide]

ok

[feral ferry]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/counter-strike-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/

[quiet vault]

is this not a "walking at npc speed in rpgs keyboard" anymore?

[feral ferry]

That was not a thing?

[quiet vault]

https://youtu.be/4DHcEW389Gc?si=tsQQkyXb2KaHnmgu

[small comet]

that was only ever a thing if the game had a speed toggle key

where you can switch between walking and running speed

[quiet vault]

like Minecraft?

[small comet]

thats called sneaking/crouching

[quiet vault]

no

[quiet vault]

u can set a sprint key

[small comet]

other mmos and some sp games had similar things

thats another different thing

lol

so usually you have crawling -> crouching -> walking -> running -> sprinting

[quiet vault]

i see

[small comet]

and after that come some unholy things like extended backwards bhop

or backwards longjumps

i guess ffxiv is actually a good example

you can walk by toggling

running is the default

and then there is a sprint skill as well

actually unsure if i personally consider crouching and walking 2 different speeds per say

more like same speed different body position

[drowsy pollen]

Valheim has crouch-walk-run-sprint toggles too

[bleak pike]

I give up on modding starfield

It just ain't happening on the gamepass version

My only hope is this

https://github.com/gazzamc/starfield_hex_updater

But I have no idea how to use it

[hot spire]

did you run it

[bleak pike]

Ah he responded

Fucking hate Microsoft sometimes

[hot spire]

i mean

linux would do that

[barren pewter]

cyberpunk glitch occurred

and it was quite good

sold a tier three unity to a weapons merchant
and...after installing some cyberware in a bathroom

there was a tier five unity in the buyback menu of said merchant

...done deal

[static island]

[barren pewter]

and thanks to update 2.0

it's...not like the weapon will be useless in a few hours of play

[hot spire]

yeah but there isnt much bonus to us good shit other than icoics

the iconic powers are op af now

[barren pewter]

yeah...

I'm kinda just wondering why I haven't grabbed Divided We Stand yet

that thing was quite potent even before

[hot spire]

Fenrir is god teir

crippling cybers is op af

no thats Yinglong

fenrir is fire

[barren pewter]

Fenrir is shock now

a shame

got it the moment I had freeroam access of Watson thinking it would be god tier

but...nah

[hot spire]

is it shock now?

i thought i had it backwards

[barren pewter]

yep...

[still spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevGcdURdr0

[hot spire]

then i was right

its op af

[barren pewter]

...how so?

Divided We Stand is better in every way

[hot spire]

i thought it was eletrtic

then fire

[barren pewter]

pure electric

[hot spire]

yeah it used to be fire

also it disables cyberware

which stuns

[barren pewter]

they...did screw it up in other ways

it shares the pistol ammo pool, as do all other SMGs

[hot spire]

yeah

i dont use pistols

[barren pewter]

which puts it in competition with Comrade's Hammer for my ammo

[still spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778887485400154132/1157503875213971476/image.png?ex=6518d8fd&is=6517877d&hm=6adc1d4ebca3398c25f161d6c25ae196a6a45f932938cbb4446d1425ee55f1b5&

[heady talon]

아이

아이갱갱갱

아이아이아이파파파

[orchid prism]

[still spire]

https://youtu.be/mfBCrOHoEuY

[unique bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cwXQ5wqxnw

[feral ferry]

Pffft hahaha https://twitter.com/KerbalSpaceP/status/1707803098843136355

Kerbal Space Program (@KerbalSpaceP)

KSP2 Hotfix v0.1.4.1 is available now!

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Data values removed from Windows Registry lol

They had to get called out on it, to fix it

Didn't take em long though

[orchid prism]

Why uh... why is a game writing game data on physics... to the registry?

[small comet]

what

[feral ferry]

Ease of access?

[fringe salmon]

On doing even more investigating, I have come to the conclusion that it is vestigial side effects of part of an editor tool that wasn't supposed to be in the game

So, accident

[unborn spruce]

Wait what even?

This is some old school Warcraft design.

Blizz used to write the game reso to the reg for whatever daft reason.

[small comet]

well its not bad to write some small info to the reg

has its upsides like cross install configuration

even if you reinstall the game completely the few settings remain in reg

the only major downside is portability and size of data saved

should keep it to small bits of data in reg and cant just cache your shaders there

[fading spade]

🤔

2012

[solar lily]

Yes they replaced CS:GO with CS2

[fading spade]

oh, wow

bet esports arent happy with that choice

[solar lily]

we were discussing the implications of that in terms of workshop map preservation two days ago

[fading spade]

is it backwards compatible with workshop stuff??

[solar lily]

esports leagues can make the effort: #🎮│game message

[solar lily]

well no because Source 2

[fading spade]

ooh

[solar lily]

but as I've detailed here the old CS:GO is perfectly able to be used while Valve allows arbitrary manifest versions to be downloaded through steamcmd

[feral ferry]

It's shit news

Cause 128 tick matchmaking is completely gone

[solar lily]

128 tick matchmaking was only external

[feral ferry]

Everyone is forced to play on 64 so people WILL now blame major esports incidents on tickrae

[feral ferry]

Well guess what? Now you can't even have it external

They completely canned 128tick

[solar lily]

How have they managed that?

[feral ferry]

Cause they disabled the ability to modify tickrate

Absolutely everyone will be confined to 64

Which is bs

[solar lily]

Like with no recourse? CS2 engine has been set to not have the serverside tickrate commands work anymore?

[feral ferry]

Yes

[fading spade]

how large was CSGO?
Cause CSGO2 wants 34GB

[feral ferry]

Around 10GB

[fading spade]

dont remember CSGO being that large

oh LOL

[solar lily]

It's not something people can make a serverside mod/plugin out of and bypass commands being disabled?

[feral ferry]

I hope they figure that out

But Valve doesn't want that to happen

[solar lily]

I don't exactly know why downloading CS:GO manually through steamcmd is taking so much space

[fading spade]

csgo2

[solar lily]

were they adding CS2 stuff to be downloaded as late as February this year?

Well maybe if the world's hardware choices gets to the point where CS2 starts universally performing well enough then Valve can bite the bullet on forcing 128 tickrate onto everyone's CPUs /s

I'm a bit surprised though because I assumed Source 2 would fix the everso-Sorse problem of being CPU-limited but I'm not sure if the CS2 performance is entirely on the back of being GPU-limited

[feral ferry]

I think it was this

https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1702277004656050220

Pavel Djundik (@thexpaw)

Seems like CS2 hardcoded the tickrate in the client binary, so even if server binary is patched (they got rid of GetTickInterval function which made this easy), it shouldn't matter.

Valve should be improving stuff that is subpar, rather than bruteforcing it with 128 tick.

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Twitter · Sep 14, 2023, 11:03 AM

Basically 128 tick is dead

[solar lily]

Valve should be improving stuff that is subpar, rather than bruteforcing it with 128 tick.
who is this person? what's their mentality regarding Counter-Strike?

[orchid prism]

Click their profile and find out?

[feral ferry]

Well here's the CS2 blog if you don't trust https://www.counter-strike.net/news/updates

[solar lily]

Will I?
How far would a troll/sarcasmposter go to hide that fact

[feral ferry]

By legacy they mean 128 tick lol

[solar lily]

I thought that was for the interp commands
So this tweet is a reaction to the update?

[feral ferry]

cl_interp and cl_interp_ratio are gone yes

But they also hard baked in tickrate

[solar lily]

I'd like to see before-and-after analyses of the binaries to corroborate their word but for now I'll take it

[feral ferry]

If the creator of SteamDB of all things can't be credible enough then wtf

[solar lily]

Yeah I don't buy appeal to authority as an argument, but at least their credibility doesn't make me mistrust their word so I'll take what they say even if I wouldn't circulate it around myself

[fringe salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqhhFl5zgA0 keep in mind tickrate also works differently

[solar lily]

tickrate itself works differently or there is something to the side of tickrate that allows subtick actions?

[feral ferry]

Afaik subtick is weird so they don't allow people to mess with any of that

Valve just really wants for people to be contempt with 64

[solar lily]

what convars would they make for subtick 🤔

[solar lily]

yeah, instead of being content with 64 ticks per second Valve is inadvertently making people in even more contempt of the tickrate than ever before

[feral ferry]

128 should just be the normal tickrate

Well, servers n all

Subtick could improve 128 as well

[tough jay]

If I get this correctly, the tickrate stays the same but the game now includes more accurate timestamps to work with?

[solar lily]

okay but when I be sarcastic about this I really mean Valve is serious about this

Well maybe if the world's hardware choices gets to the point where CS2 starts universally performing well enough then Valve can bite the bullet on forcing 128 tickrate onto everyone's CPUs

especially given the performance drop to CS2

[tough jay]

Seems to me the biggest hurdles with a higher tickerate are not how fast people's pc's are but rather network connection and server cost.

[solar lily]

you say it's a hurdle like Valve doesn't have the finances to step over it like the giant they are

network connection argument though?

[feral ferry]

Let's go back to the days when people host servers on their own computers

[solar lily]

instructions unclear, switched to P2P

does a significant/relevant amount of people actually do that though these days? Most of the time people rent from server providers themselves - yes with a good amount of remote access to file directories but still not from their own computers

[green dune]

Would it be possible to disable some CPU cores on the Steam Deck to give more power to the remaining ones?

[tough jay]

Yes that is possible but not commonly useful.

[orchid prism]

By..using it?

[fallow bronze]

Too obvious :p

[orchid prism]

[green dune]

I feel like it would be able to benefit Switch emulation.

[solar lily]

probably next idea for all the software/game engineer nerds: make something using the Wooting SDK that provides an interactive way for a user to train themselves to hold keys at certain levels

[fringe salmon]

single threaded will load one core up first and not hit power limit anyway, multi threaded you want more cores so you wouldnt gain anything

the cases where outright disabling cores would gain anything are extremely rare

turning of SMT maybe but not disabling cores

[green dune]

I figured it would prevent things from bouncing around too, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to just try it.

[fringe salmon]

bouncing around?

[unborn spruce]

Gameplay is going to be your most direct method to get used to it.

[green dune]

Yeah threads switching between HARTs.

[unborn spruce]

Just start 'slow' and ramp up, that's what I did and it didn't take me longer than about a week to get used to it and start improving seriously.

[fringe salmon]

whats harts

[green dune]

HARdware Threads.

[fringe salmon]

its a single chip threads switching around isnt doing much

[solar lily]

Apparently 'hart' (lowercase) is something you pick up reading the RISC-V specification...

[unborn spruce]

It just feels really wacky at first.

[green dune]

It's useful.

[solar lily]

Yeah just don't confuse it with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_(deer)

[fringe salmon]

isnt that just a core

[green dune]

Nah.

Most CPU cores now have two harts.

[fringe salmon]

. Hardware threads look like separate compute cores to the operating system, but they will time-share on the same physical core.
ok so its just their word for SMT

[unborn spruce]

I mean yeh obviously. Hardware Threads could only mean so many things.

[green dune]

Not exactly.

Anyway.

I want to get Xenoblade Chronicles 2 running well.

Just slapping it on the Deck it doesn't run too well.

[fringe salmon]

disable SMT but doing more wont increase it likely

[green dune]

I wonder if there's a tool for showing SoC stats.

[hot spire]

how so?

[green dune]

The usage of each enabled thread, GPU usage, memory usage, limiting factors (I.E. power, demand, temperature), stuff like that.

[unborn spruce]

@bleak pike Cataphract does 165k DPS with Spike/Envious/Bait, you can overflow 17 grenades into the mag. Currently by FAR the strongest DPS in the meta.

Run like Witherhoard/Sniper/Cataphract with Gathering Storm/Pulse and you can push something around 7m total damage in Crota. Only gets beaten by 4th Horseman Arc Hunter.

Best thing? Currently the adept in Trials so farm the fuck out of one.

[green dune]

Also tangentially related: where's a good place to get more info on the software stack on the Steam Deck? I want to try to add some stuff to the UI and have some more direct hardware access.

[hot spire]

the ui is closed source

[unborn spruce]

Reject closed source.

[green dune]

Yeah, so?

[unborn spruce]

Download BinaryNinja.

[green dune]

Minecraft is closed source too. Plus there are a couple of UI mods already.

[unborn spruce]

I mean minecraft has been completely decompiled and reverse engineered.

[hot spire]

minecraft has had offical mapping files for ages

[green dune]

It's still not open source.

[hot spire]

yeah

[green dune]

I've been in the modding community since alpha.

[hot spire]

but its 80-90% of the work of decompiling

also java is way easier to decomplie

[unborn spruce]

I mean it also helps that Notch really didn't bother building MC to be anything resembling a fortress.

[hot spire]

if you are asking here for info on it

its outside your wheelhouse

[green dune]

If you don't know anything about it you can say that.

[hot spire]

i know that its outside my skills and where to find everything

so i know my statment is true lol

[green dune]

Hrm, something happened to my XBC2 dump...

Why can't I just plug my Switch into my Steam Deck to copy stuff?

Might be fun to try to write tools for that...

[feral ferry]

https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1708147090272972856 Yep

Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_)

Really excited for the Nintendo Switch 2 and its tech.

We'll see "Launching on Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5, Nintendo Switch 2, and PC" a heck of a lot in 12-18 months.

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Twitter · Sep 30, 2023, 3:49 PM

[fringe salmon]

meh, switch2 isnt very exciting

[tough jay]

I still don't quite know where it will land in the grand scheme of things.
It makes sense that it could get close to steam deck performance, and exceed it in practice due to more directly targeting the hardware.

Knowing nintendo it could very well make due with 8gb ram at lower performance which could complicate things.

[fringe salmon]

I just want to laugh and see a strix (halo) device that can emulate switch2 games on release lol

also should be 12gb lpddr likely

[tough jay]

could be, but things would have to be clocked lower as Nintendo probably wants to hit a lower power target than the deck.

[fringe salmon]

more curious if it does anything else beside just being a switch with more hardware power

[solar lily]

People back before Wii U was announced:

[fringe salmon]

yeah basically

[tough jay]

Wii u fucked itself over trying to be backwards compatible and blew it's budget on including that tablet by default.

[solar lily]

Switch 2 could flop hard if it splits their userbase enough without sufficient transitioning

"fucked itself over trying to be backwards compatible"
yeah I think people would shit on Nintendo if Switch 2 wasn't
even Sony got the memo

[tough jay]

I mean hardware level back compat instead of emulation.
Those Power PC cores were very outdated

[solar lily]

Then again speaking of Sony they're comitting a Wii U moment too

[solar lily]

yeah I guess I see what you mean

[tough jay]

Still I don't think there was a good answer, the Wii hype was dying and they had to do something to win people over.

[solar lily]

after all no chance of any future Nintendo console being backwards compatible with the Wii family

they at some point would've cut off that loose end, they just put themselves in a financial state holding it off

Do we have any leaks on what architecture 'Switch 2' would be on?
Probably wouldn't move off ARM but that would be the same 'backwards compatibility messy shit' if they did

[tough jay]

Translation layers could work, but more importantly I see no reason to move away from ARM.
At the very most move away from Nvidia if they are not cooporating but arm is perfectly fine for what they are doing.

[fringe salmon]

just another nvidia chip just with never cores for cpu and gpu

still on not current gen ofc though

[tough jay]

This seems pretty established yea if that were false someone would have leaked it by now.

Just saying blank slate ignoring rumors looking at the current landscape for the power envelope they are targeting ARM cores make the msot sense right now. Unless you get AMD to make something on zen's lower power cores to fit.

[solar lily]

yeah maybe they don't 'beat' the Steam Deck at the exact same game

[green dune]

A Switch 2 is going to be disappointing to a lot of people, the backwards comparability is likely to be complicated because of poor Horizon design decisions.

[solar lily]

as I'm implying, real risk

[green dune]

The Wii U is amazing.

[solar lily]

Yeah well the customer is always right
and Nintendo didn't convince the customer that they would think buying a Wii U is the right decision
hence poor sales, 'if our next console flops as well we'll pull out of that segment of the market'

[green dune]

My mom still thinks it's a fancy Wii controller.

The gamepad though. 😍

[tough jay]

One problem the Wii-u faced was simply costs, that tablet had a real hardware cost and when you try to make a lower priced console.
The tablet is going to get a cheap resistive screen, the hardware specs are going to suffer.
It just feels like a flawed concept

[solar lily]

Yeah well at least your mum wouldn't be wrong in thinking the PlayStation Portal is 'a fancy PS controller'

[tough jay]

Actually got my psp-go from someone who used it as such.

[solar lily]

okay but then they pulled the same thing off with the Switch
and yeah Dock helps as opposed to 'always on screen' but then it goes back to 'still using PowerPC' rather than the tablet being the problem

[tough jay]

The problem was not having a tablet per se, but rather having both a full console and a tablet bundled like that.

The switch dock much cheaper / simpler.

[green dune]

Yeah but far less useful.

I feel like the Wii U with an ethernet cable and better marketing (I.E. not calling it the Wii U) would have gone a long way.

[solar lily]

So it's cheaper because otherwise you have a tablet needing processing units and console needing processing units
while Switch you either carry the processing units with you or leave it in the dock 🤔

[green dune]

Yeah but you don't get both.

[tough jay]

I feel like the best case for the wii-u would have been to ditch the powerpc cores for something more modern, increase the budget so the tablet got a better screen and the console got stronger hardware. And sold a budget version without the tablet.
And also give it a better name.

[green dune]

The gamepad didn't need to be quite as complex as it ended up either, but hey.

[solar lily]

is this some sort of a jab at Nintendo's funny internet connectivity ideas? Yeah, E3 2003 was also pretty funny to watch them skirt around the GameCube internet question

[green dune]

They wanted Wii compatibility.

[tough jay]

Which was a mistake because A everyone had a wii and B wii's were dirt cheap.

and C the input method was completely different anyway

The cpu architecture was derived from the gamecube's cpu just with some more cache and clockspeed and 3 cores

[solar lily]

Ah and I don't even think Wii U had GC backwards compatibility

hell later Wii models didn't either

[tough jay]

They could probably have done that, the compatibility removal was mostly just controller ports and memory card slots

If they remapped those calls to store the games on nand or made some usb-adapter the wii-u could have been backwards compatibile with the gamecube

In fact there is homebrew that does that

[solar lily]

I'm trying to think if that means you could hardmod these Wii models then

[tough jay]

Ah I see where the compatibility broke, the disc drive, so the games would work without emulation, just the disc drive could not read them.

But yea this project exists: https://gbatemp.net/threads/devolution-public-release.330554/

[solar lily]

Hardmod old Wii drives into later models 🤔

[orchid prism]

Also didn't help that each tablet was locked to a specific console.

[green dune]

You can run GC stuff on the Wii U!

The new drives are SATA the Wii drives are custom.

[green dune]

No?

Just region locked.

The Wii U dev units could use two gamepads, imagine if any games got to use that! Stuff like Yu-Gi-Oh! would be a really cool use case.

[solar lily]

Yeah, that's a consideration I would have never made on my own and I feel there'd be a lot more opportunities for unique content if you could do that with connecting multiple gamepads to a single console

[green dune]

The hardware was there, just no support in the OS.

[solar lily]

Maybe very much more in the sense of 'carrying your Wii U tablet over to your friends' rather than 'buy multiple tablets to access things' though

[green dune]

Yeah exactly.

Like the Wii.

They could have put more storage on the Gamepad for characters and stuff, more like the Dreamcast.

[tough jay]

Even besides that, game devs would have to actually implement the feature. And I don't think many of them would.

[green dune]

Especially since a lot of games essentially ignored it.

Nintendo Land and Splatoon are like the best games for the Wii U....

Another fun thing, the Gamepad had its own sensor bar. So you could track Wiimotes from two gamepads and a TV.

[tough jay]

You could probably track wii-motes with two tv remotes taping down a button.

the sensor bar was not much more than a bunch of ir leds

[green dune]

Yeah, but the Gamepad still had them.

The TV remotes probably wouldn't work though.

You can use candles.

[tough jay]

I personally think the style of controllers was fine on a home console, just needed a bit more refinement and a bit less stupid gimicky use.

[green dune]

The lighthouses kick this up to 11.

[tough jay]

an air mouse just is a rather nice way to control a lot of first person games and hte like

[solar lily]

I was almost thinking something like split-screen games where if you wanted you could bring your tabletover to your friend's and game without screencheating, while otherwise regular splitscreen would be fine

[green dune]

I guess you could also do something like the Guitar Hero games ended up doing.

Splatoon on the Wii U feels amazing.

[solar lily]

I have to say I do not know why Microsoft allowed themselves to be overtaken in controller design when they have xinput to maintain

[tough jay]

I personally own wii motes, a ps-move and even a razer hydra (interesting piece of kit I got it on the cheap)

[green dune]

I wish VR stuff could be used for that Portal DLC.

[solar lily]

I can understand if the XBOX team wasn't budging but surely the people doing Windows API have an incentive to get their solution to the market first

[tough jay]

I got the hydra on the cheap. Also got a copy of dirt 3 and dark souls 1 with it because the packaging was damaged

quite a nice deal for less than € 50

[green dune]

Can I just cat the split roms to merge them?

[tough jay]

I played the dlc, it was insanely broken

Or rather you can also create portals like that in coop and the base game

Also Razer was not really involved with it at all other than branding

[green dune]

I wonder if they were working on VR stuff then, I know this was the "correct" way to do input with the DK1.

[tough jay]

It really predated vr.

They mostly focussed on playing pc games from the couch. If steam machines took off that would have been a market they would target.

Their software was quite decent with mapping and such. A bit like steam input works now

I am still glad I own one, even if I don't use it, it's a nice bit of history.

I did actually use it in some games as it was a fun way to control them until I got a steam controller and used that instead if I wanted to mess with these things.

[green dune]

I always liked the idea of those but they are impractical.

[solar lily]

wow I always wondered how I'd go back to 'family sitting on the sofa playing with laptops' when everything in our lives became about the modular desktop computer

[green dune]

I kinda want wireless USB for my keyboard for couch use.

Well I'm kinda getting 30FPS.

[green dune]

It can't hold it even at a reduced resolution and there are a bunch of graphical issues.

[fading spade]

It would be so nice to have access to your main PC from your TV screen in the sitting room

And have a wireless keyboard and mouse to connect to it
Or a controller for games

[green dune]

Steam Link?

It can forward USB devices too.

[fading spade]

The software can?

[green dune]

Yeah.

You can plug a USB device into the Steam Link and forward it to your PC.

[fading spade]

but what if you dont have the Link hardware?

[hot spire]

becasue steam link lets you use your main pc from the living room lopl

most smartvs have steam link

[unborn spruce]

It’s a pretty shittastic system, sadly. Proper need ethernet to have an experience that isn’t directly awful.

And thanks to TVs being mostly garbage there’s a surprising amount that drop ethernet and just take purely wifi. Thanks stupid TV IO.

[hot spire]

i have a super cheap gtv in my living room and it has ethernet and works great

and my oled in my bedroom dose to

[barren pewter]

KINGPIN RELOADED COMES OUT ON THE FIFTH OF DECEMBER

[green dune]

I dunno.

[fading spade]

when people dont apply Deck updates on time xd

[green dune]

It's usually pretty subtle about them unlike the Switch.

[fading spade]

The switch has never once popped up a notification that there is an update to apply

Except for games, but that happens when you try to launch them

[green dune]

It happens with system updates too.

[hot spire]

why this over GE:S

again

idk

it just looks worse

[static island]

woah

[hot spire]

i just love ge:s lol

its just odd that it looks worse and more clunky than a 8+year old free mod

hell its almost worse than ge 64 with the texture pack

like have you seen the xbla leak?

im literally playing it now

so i dont know how im against playing the demo

what im telling you is based on my experience playing the demo

[barren pewter]

So fucking excited

[hot spire]

yeah much better retro styling without looking bad

speaking of 3drealms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjb7pBTh3PQ

[deft bloom]

wtf I 100% didn't remember the existence of kingpin, but yes I played and it was fucking awesome wow

the remaster looks shit tho lol

[barren pewter]

mmmmmhm

The GTA 6 we didn’t know we were getting

Is just kingpin reloaded

[static island]

whats kingpin

[barren pewter]

Wow you’re young

[static island]

[barren pewter]

damn I feel old now

[tall anchor]

kingpin is a site where you buy buy dumped steam keys. its not always 'legal' how they got them so be a bit careful

same for g2a

[static island]

oh that website i know

not a bad one, altho i prefer to use the national sites that have localised prices and good promos

[fringe salmon]

No that’s kinguin

As for g2a that’s scam site is worse than pirating games so pirate before you buy something there

[static island]

oh yeah that's kinguin

[rancid hearth]

Kingpin is a professional overclocker afaik

[fringe salmon]

its also a video game which likely is what is talked about when talking about games xd

[rancid hearth]

tru

[deft bloom]

how to play a professional overclocker

[hot spire]

like a fiddle

[deft bloom]

I'll yank your fiddle

[barren pewter]

Average New Yorker

[deft bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ7lKPSUc2g kingpin of russia

[still spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUbF8Ytadx0

Loved the demo

[still spire]

I mean

Yeah

Performance is iffy, even on a gaming laptop or 4090. 😛

They are pushing the engine hard

Just make sure to turn off stuff like raytraced shadows, reflections ect

I think the raytraced particles was one that hit hard because of how many are on screne

Setting unlimited gibs also will slow to a crawl even the mightiest systems

[feral ferry]

Uh.. what https://youtu.be/jdw1LoZ3NOo

[fallow bronze]

Uh what what?

[still spire]

In the butt

[orchid prism]

Oh. Oh! Just found a new way to uh... deal with the big Act 1 stuff in BG3.

For some reason I never in tons of previous playthroughs managed to trigger the druids and tieflings attacking each other openly. What a fun time.

[round heath]

Did you play the Divinity games?

[orchid prism]

Only the 2nd one, and it was tough to get through. Not a fan

[round heath]

Ah fair enough, I loved them tbh. Im holding off on BG3 for a little while, wait for it to be fully polished as the definitive edition of DOS 2 was a major improvement

[deft bloom]

I loved divinity 2, but I've loved bg3 a lot more. haven't encountered anything that would break the game or make me mad, bugs or otherwise. if you're waiting for a div2 style overhaul of entire content or something then alright fair enough. 140 hours in I've enjoyed every second

[orchid prism]

Divinity 2 had a real storytelling problem.

Which is what annoyed me the most.

[feral ferry]

Divinity 2 also has a thematic problem

It's weirdly serious but also has these really annoying gags sprinkled in which honestly pissed me off

Crouch makes your character tippy toe and wear a prop like a box or a barrel

For how much fun I had with BG3, I tried out DOS2 again and it's just so damn boring

I tried DOS2 before, quit before getting off the ship cause it felt so disconnected

Now at least I got into that prison castle thing, and then quit cause again, it just feels off

[hoary skiff]

Hey anyone here who played cyberpunk since the 2.0 update? I've been trying to get the analog inputs to work again, but it just fails on me.

[grizzled bramble]

Currently playing and don't really have any problems with it?

[feral ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NepjoMy6LOg

[barren pewter]

Yooooooooooo

Finally

My favourite recent indie game is getting a coop mode

Vexxsie, I take it you’ll play it with me?

[river belfry]

Postal 2 is one of the best

[wide vortex]

anyone got a profile for dark and darker or where i could find one?

[hoary skiff]

everytime i swap over to the controller mode so to say, I just lose complete control over the WASD inputs.

I cant move at all anymore.

Did you do anything specific to get it to work?

Because I tried to edit the inputconfig aswell, without any luck

It just doesn't take the controller inputs, only WASD

Nvm im just stupid

Controller Input was turned off

[deft bloom]

valid criticism I guess, but for me it never felt seriousserious

tbh I co-oped it with my ex and I was high 90% of the time so that could play a part here

[round heath]

Its more a case of waiting for it to be fully polished

[deft bloom]

I think it's in a good place now and was already on release, not saying it won't be better, but there's nowhere near as much annoying stuff happening than in dos2

[round heath]

I just trust Larian to keep on improving

I can be patient, still waiting to play cyberpunk haha

[tough jay]

I bought it but I want to have a good time to start playing it, except I keep wasting my limited spare time (lately) on watching youtube and talking on discord.
Right now I have other things that need to be done sadly, so maybe somewhere next week.

[barren pewter]

Plan on playing a bit when I get home from my shift

Phantom Liberty is amazing

And the update 2.0 tweaks completely change how cyberpunk actually plays

I’m actively using quickhacks in combat xD

[static island]

what do you rate cyberpunk (update) so far @barren pewter

[hot spire]

wait until you get a iconic deck

[static island]

!

[hot spire]

the ripper is dope

applys optic and weapon glitch when you activate overlcock

still nothing to the apogee

[deft bloom]

yeah I played 10 hours of cyberpunk on release and gave up, now it seems like it's worth it to try again but I have other stuff to do and can wait more, just not very interested anymore

[static island]

oh.. yeah on the release, first impressions r tough

[bleak pike]

Ngl this is too much effort

https://github.com/gazzamc/starfield_hex_updater/blob/main/docs/README.md#copy-files

Just so I can use sfse on the gamepass version

[static island]

u cant automate all of that with one or two scripts?

[orchid prism]

So stop using Gamepass.

[bleak pike]

I don't wanna buy starfield

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/margaret-qualley-sad-aww-tears-eye-roll-gif-16148852

[willow quiver]

I gotchu

[feral ferry]

Don't have it, never played postal

[river belfry]

Postal 2 funny af

[barren pewter]

And you now have a reason to

👀

[feral ferry]

Not interested

[barren pewter]

:(

[feral ferry]

Does it even have a story

[static island]

yes

[feral ferry]

Last I remember postal was a sandbox where you do fucked up stuff

[static island]

there's insane plot to it

[barren pewter]

Allegedly

[feral ferry]

Although using a cat as a suppressor is pretty fun

[barren pewter]

Quite the wonderful game mechanic

turns out it doesn’t translate well into real life…

I’m so sorry Mocha

[feral ferry]

Really functions as a good stress relief

https://tenor.com/view/ok-then-gif-11005344

[fading spade]

Games are just legal malware
https://youtu.be/WZc9nSlRerk

literally on your desktop..not a fake one used ingame

[static island]

reminds me of a paid game

[vapid lintel]

Yea I don't trust that for a second

I expect better from Valve

[static island]

that uses a simple folder on your desktop for you to get different endings and progress

[feral ferry]

Stop writing scripts for NFT miner games

[fading spade]

lol

[bleak pike]

It's probably fine tbh

Seems like a well known dev

[vapid lintel]

It potentially utilizes a permission that isn't typical and isn't necessary

[bleak pike]

Also it's probably an overlay

[static island]

overlay would've been better, don't think it is though
(the files part)

[vapid lintel]

Even if it's fine, it raises a flag in my mind and I'm not looking to try to justify it

[bleak pike]

That's fine

[vapid lintel]

I just listen to the flag and don't use it xD

[bleak pike]

But I wouldn't say expect better from valve lol

I wouldn't run it myself either tbh

But there's more invasive shit on steam that's legit

Hell most of the mp games you play are spyware :p

[vapid lintel]

That's valid, some worse than others

Wasn't it Valorant whose spyware can see as good as everything always?

[fringe salmon]

running in ring0 doesnt mean it can see everything from there

[bleak pike]

All can but what made valorants bad was it was ok a kernel level

[vapid lintel]

Gotta rely on the outrage of the masses to disseminate into my circles to stay somewhat safe I guess

[bleak pike]

And originally you couldn't turn it off

Runs all the time unless you turn it off and reboot

Or well

Its activated upon boot

[fringe salmon]

seems like it does something though which is why I hope cs2 also uses it for the new anti cheat

[bleak pike]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-good-one-the-office-smh-no-gif-5330916643654593121

Tbh I considered running a second version of Windows for games but couldn't be bothered xd

Hahah

[fringe salmon]

if that would make stop the hackers ever other cs game I'd gladly do that

[static island]

there'll still be paid cheats, just like valorant still has some

but at least the barrier is much higher

[hot spire]

good cheats are dma now

[static island]

and they can just focus on those paid cheats
which makes people go like "is it even worth it"

[hot spire]

running on a second computer

useing a hdmi merger

[fringe salmon]

sure but means the barrier is higher and if I kill a cheater I can feel even better knowing they even wasted money on it

[static island]

yep

[hot spire]

you dont know they cheat now

dma cheats are nuts

[fringe salmon]

yeah but if its something that isnt obvious I dont care as much about it in game

[static island]

I was friends with a cheat developer who dealt with tournament players, am slightly familiar with DMA but

[fringe salmon]

if I dont know its a cheat or a sick player its different from knowing they aim at you behind walls all the time

[static island]

dunno how big and accessible it is for your usual cheater

[fringe salmon]

doesnt work for matchmaking though sadly

[static island]

yeah (matchmaking) competitive players can possibly suffer with cheaters

[unborn spruce]

Cheaters have some real brain damage, ngl. You can just tell when someone is propping themselves up with hacks over skill if you even marginally surprise them.

[hot spire]

you just buy the hardware

~400 bucks

[static island]

what about when the game updates

[hot spire]

you still need a sub to cheats

[static island]

ah okay makes sense

[hot spire]

the hardware stays the same though

the hardware is a fpga hooked to pcie or usb-pcie that reads the host memory

the second computer connects to that device over usb

and dose all the cheat stuff

you then have a hdmi merger that overlays the second pc display over the first

you can also use the DMA to feed back mouse input to windows

[static island]

thats fire

[hot spire]

so its not really dectectable at this point

the only ones had device ids for access

now they use a dma method that dosent have any device exposed to the host

[static island]

there's no records of any DMA cheating being detectable so far?

[hot spire]

the old ones that had device ids did

but what ever method they use no has no device dected on the host

you had to clone a device id on the old ones

and if you did the clone bad it was detectable

[static island]

damn

[trim rock]

Thanks MS, very cool if true

[fading spade]

originally written in Vulkan

;_; so not anymore

[fringe salmon]

trusting mlid

and who knows how buggy vulkan would have been

the man sometimes gets legit slides and something fabricates stuff out of air, when he says they started in vulkan it's likely they actually started in metal lmfao

[hot spire]

xbox

the x is for direct x

[fading spade]

Yeah

[still spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDOb8NqegiU

This is pretty funny actually

[bleak pike]

https://youtu.be/NZs1WfFVAPs?si=IIj0VK1JEgHY5X2z

Lol I think this song will be forever engraved in my head

[bleak pike]

Are they though

They said that before

[orchid prism]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hx1S9WG9vNo

[bleak pike]

That annoys me tbh

One thing I can't stand about cyberpunk is the shit that slows you down

For example in cars

[novel umbra]

ever since I found out that it doesn't restrict movement when jumping I am always ahead of an npc

[bleak pike]

hol up

Why do i see halo content in csgo2

FUck yes

i can jam to Halo while playing csgo

[ebon osprey]

how did you get that?

was it a random reward?

[warped badge]

maybe he has replace some file of the game ? 🤔

[ebon osprey]

nah

[grizzled bramble]

''To be eligible for the Halo Music Kit, you must own either The Master Chief Collection on Steam or one of the games from the package. If you only own Halo: Reach you are eligible for the Music Kit after playing for more than 5 hours.'' https://twitter.com/CounterStrike/status/1202670547475132417

CS2 (@CounterStrike)

To be eligible for the Halo Music Kit, you must own either The Master Chief Collection on Steam or one of the games from the package. If you only own Halo: Reach you are eligible for the Music Kit after playing for more than 5 hours.

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[warped badge]

oh okay

[ebon osprey]

sweet

[grizzled bramble]

That tweet is back in 2019 though 👀

https://www.zbt.com/news/676178938980597760.html Here's another post about it

[ebon osprey]

yea that means i dont think you can get a stattrack version

yea i see folks complaining no stattrack

[bleak pike]

wait it effects in game too?

haha

[ebon osprey]

yep

you can look up online the full list of sfx

and it plays for everyone if you get an MVP

[ebon osprey]

hmm ive got about half of those, gonna have to give them a shot

oh wait is that game side version or the driver version?

[slim token]

https://twitter.com/Minecraft/status/1708866185067127216

Minecraft (@Minecraft)

Hop aboard and join us over the next 3 days as we reveal which mobs are trying to join Minecraft!

Hope Tiny Agnes, Jens, and Vu don't get lost...

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let's see how much the community destroys itself over three mundame mobs

mundane

[fringe salmon]

afmf is the driver version

it's not working with hdr and has some issues with syncing still so I dont think its worth testing yet

[ebon osprey]

ah nvm then
unless amd miraculously uncancels rdna4 halo, im not gonna have an amd card regardless

[fringe salmon]

because it disables itself really easily when moving the mouse still

it's an early preview as it was said to come H1 next year

[ebon osprey]

sure but dlss fg is already available, and despite not being great, it at least is available

[fringe salmon]

adding it to a game vs having it in driver is a big difference

[ebon osprey]

sure but if it doesnt work at all thats worse than having it in games

[fringe salmon]

its a preview driver

its basically open beta/alpha

[feral ferry]

https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/obsidians-josh-sawyer-jokes-that-hes-waiting-for-a-call-from-microsoft-to-make-pillars-of-eternity-3

Honestly I heard good things about the series

[orchid prism]

Could never get into it.

[feral ferry]

But it seems like a very uninteresting

[orchid prism]

It's too... weird. And I didn't like -any- of the companion characters.

[feral ferry]

Wasn't he like 24 years in the company?

I read somewhere he was in the company for like 20 or more years

Anything that makes all games launch on PC and stop being exclusives is appreciates, like a CEO change

[fringe salmon]

you mean just like the started to do and almost all are coming to pc?

[feral ferry]

Not on launch

Good lord the texts

Take a screenshot

[orchid prism]

Is a screenshot easier to read than literal text?

[feral ferry]

Uh, takes up less space at least

https://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/spiritual-successor-to-dino-crisis-dinobreak-releasing-soon/

And it will suck I bet

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-man-ray-oh-boo-hoo-oh-sob-oh-cry-gif-25252199

[feral ferry]

Dino Crisis needs some of that Capcom touch

A lot of good resources to make a phenomenal dino shooter

Indie devs really I doubt can do it

I'm hoping for a new konami event this month

SH2R needs a release date

I hope they will show more of Silent Hill Five and maybe also release Sakura demo

Ascension... not feeling it

And there's supposed to be like 2+ more unannounced SH projects which would be cool to see

Well it's nor a dead publisher nor do they have no good games

So you can suck one and beat it

[feral ferry]

I have some small reservations about Silent Hill 2 Remake

[rancid hearth]

Originally posted in the Sound Voltex server

[feral ferry]

At least I'm not sure if Bloober can make a 100/100 game

I'm kinda confident it will be a contender for GOTY but not a winner

But SHf will be incredible

[fringe salmon]

the company that made metal gear survive can fuck up anything

[feral ferry]

We also have to be honest and admit that the leadership has changed since then

The shite leadership that booted Kojima, made Survive and canceled PT is gone

I have good expectations for the future

[fringe salmon]

that doesnt instantly make it better

[feral ferry]

I am wondering though what on earth do you do with the Metal Gear brand

That's Kojima's brainchild and you need someone with a loose screw to take it over

Cause people will expect crazy shit from a new entry

Can always just transform it into a more stealth focused genre since Splinter Cell is dead

That makes no sense for anyone to do

Yeah and metal gear is nowhere near that level

Who

[bleak pike]

AFMF on cp2077 is goooooooood

wait

is it locked behind amd?

[feral ferry]

Uh.. yes

Radeon 7000 only

FSR3 isn't locked but Fluid Motion Frames is

[bleak pike]

fuck me

[feral ferry]

Cyberpunk will get FSR3 anyways

[bleak pike]

i swear i asked in the past if it was on all cards

[feral ferry]

And it's a lot better than FMF

[bleak pike]

that has frame gen?

[feral ferry]

Yes it's the DLSS3 equivalent

Which tbf appears to be better than DLSS for some reason

[bleak pike]

AFMF seems very impressive

for CP2077

[fringe salmon]

afmf is still an early access driver

they dont make drivers for nvidia

and yes it will get fsr3

[bleak pike]

OH i see

so its just literally early access restricted

[fringe salmon]

no

its an amd driver

amd doesnt make nvidia drivers

[bleak pike]

ok so AFMF itself is coming to fsr?

[fringe salmon]

fmf is the driver version of fsr3

aka the worse version only used if fsr3 isnt there

[bleak pike]

i see

[feral ferry]

Not sure why are you struggling to comprehend these things Cal

FMF is basically same thing as DLSS3

FSR3 is open access

[bleak pike]

except i cant use DLSS version

[orchid prism]

I am still not convinced all of these abbreviations aren't from FNAF or some shit.

[feral ferry]

You will be able to use FSR3?

[fringe salmon]

fluid motion is age old amd tech

yeah its getting messy

[bleak pike]

I just saw a video that's probably bs

[unborn spruce]

Konami has been making nothing but gambling for literally ever since they became popular with gaming.

The fact you can even have the smallest shred of hope for them is 10/10 fuckin' hilarious.

[bleak pike]

https://youtu.be/6wgOnizx08U?si=Qza4kmYvtzuswrWR

[unborn spruce]

Oh c'mon man, you can't tempt me with CP2077.

[fringe salmon]

you dont want either frame gen at that low fps

[unborn spruce]

I'm still waiting for Hardcore22 to get updated and it's depressing af.

[bleak pike]

1080p it's solid

[fringe salmon]

yeah if you are already >70fps or so

[bleak pike]

Same with 4k

Guessing because of high Ms?

[fringe salmon]

high what

[bleak pike]

Weren't there reports of high latency or something

With Nvidia and and frame stuff

[fringe salmon]

yes its the same as dlss fg in that regard

[feral ferry]

Not if the game supports anti-lag+ ngl

[bleak pike]

Nvidia reflex

[feral ferry]

That's the amazing thing actually, FSR3 pairs really well with Reflex

[bleak pike]

Irrc is a funny weird combo

For sp games I'm sure it's not that bad?

[fringe salmon]

reflex is needed to make latency like non FG without reflex

[unborn spruce]

What's the lag hit from FG?

[fringe salmon]

fmf and fg are about the same

the lag hit depends on what starting fps you have

hence people say you really only want if north of 60fps base

[bleak pike]

Lol

When is fsr 3 out

Well shit, this is ncie

[fringe salmon]

now

[bleak pike]

i guess just waiting for games to support it

well

Ah so only 2 games

as or rn

[tough jay]

Also finally some decent comparisons shots: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/forspoken-fsr-3/

[static island]

that is nice

[dreamy cedar]

hello, has anyone been able to successfully play a game like MK1 on their wooting?

I gave it a good go, and speed wise it feels really beautiful, but the problem was the moves that would require multiple directional inputs and it was very hard to get them to register correctly and also to do long combos that would involve them.

is that so, I actually have an LBX but having some problems with it right now because my VScode is broken! it's a literal brick

that's how I ended up trying my wooting

Well it's not actually the LBX problem tbh

As soon as I open VScode it starts sperging, I'll show you

it just starts doing that endlessly 🤣

but until I fix whatever THAT is, I can't even use my lbx lmao

its like, wtf does that even mean and who do I ask... even the LBX discord people have no idea

for movement and blocking the wooting does feel amazing, just for some reason hard to do the directional inputs properly

why would that be better exactly? I was wondering whether the buttons are being pressed too fast for it to actually recognise them as being pressed simultaneously

[static island]

would be a good feature, dunno if any memory issues would occur if they added that or an alternative that does a similar function

yeah I had no idea that'd be a good feature for fighting games until you mentioned it

but people were talking about "killswitch" feature or whatever it was
like pressing A, then you go and press D and A stops being activated even if you're holding it down

yeah would be a good'ish feature i guess

would it be as useful as people think though

that sounds cool for good players

[dreamy cedar]

that would be nice

for some reason, when I remap keys in wootility, it doesnt work in mk

i want to have multiple a and d buttons and its not having any of it

[static island]

the active ones, top ones

[dreamy cedar]

ah.. that worked

let see if this can help my woes

[static island]

xdddddddd

[frank pasture]

Wooting buff

[urban flare]

Nerf Bastion Wooting

[orchid prism]

https://tenor.com/view/bastion-overwatch-gif-8170085

[still spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_7uOrS_mvw This is still the best Spider-Man game

Fuck no

That is awful

I tried that out and turned it right off

Feels incredibly unnatural

[feral ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn6wfLTn8dM @bleak pike

Your forte

[orchid prism]

It's quite good.

Got a lot of hours in it.

[small comet]

that scanner

[orchid prism]

Factorio meets Minecraft. Or "Minecraft if you were making a factory floor on an alien planet"

[small comet]

looks stolen from satisfactory

[orchid prism]

It's a radar. Kind of hard to reinvent the wheel 😄

It's not as polished as Satisfactory - But it uses a generated map with terrain you can manipulate, something the Swedes don't have.

[tawdry wing]

I use a wooting 60he and I play valorant.

I had a Jump+throw Macro setup and it has been working for months, recently for no reason it doesn't work anymore - timing is wayyyy off. Anyone know what happened?

[feral ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-the-biggest-mystery-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-is-the-biggest-secret-its-the-most-mysterious-thing-nobody-knows-that-gif-21430284

[orchid prism]

Might want to ask over in #1019723042244534282 so it doesn't get lost in the chat stream.

[fallow bronze]

it looks a lot like fortresscraft

but.. better

[still spire]

Weird my profile for CS2 has this now

[feral ferry]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1086940/view/3716089610947840482

Ugly cat 🤢

[orchid prism]

How actually DARE you insult his highness.

HISS, HISS I SAY

Restored Raphael's hair colour and horns. The House of Hope is once again fashion-forward.

Finally!

[bleak pike]

They really went after Satisfactory players xd

[orchid prism]

The company that makes their trailers knows what they're doing.

[bleak pike]

Eh?

Beta?

[orchid prism]

Yes.

[quiet vault]

lol

[hot spire]

how will crab no win

[quiet vault]

im kinda for seagull

need stuff in the air

[feral ferry]

These stupid ass votes are back?

How about they bring all of them in

Is it that hard to implement some basic ass AI for a crab, a gull or a jello?

Minecraft Live is the stupidest thing that exists

[quiet vault]

atleast it doesn't seem like there are annoying mobs

like phantoms

[feral ferry]

It's really sad that mod makers create better content than a billion+ dollar company

[small comet]

always wonder why they dont just do all

[quiet vault]

Minecraft dev is the hardest job in the world

[feral ferry]

Lot's of maths involved

But not hard

[terse spear]

I can only imagine how much easier it is to add to a product that you make by yourself, without needing outside opinions on your work flow, ect

[orchid prism]

Engagement I assume.

I would be unsurprised if they didn't do a massive "Animals and beasts" update at some point, grabbing the popular requested ones.

[feral ferry]

How about instead some stupid ass engagement that comes at the cost of major content additions

They give us some new portal world ideas and let people vote on those

Afaik the "mob vote" mobs are literally pre-made for the show

So they are just scrapping development time of the contestants that don't win

Why not give us concept art and let us vote on something actually big, like a new realm to visit

Cause we haven't had a new realm since.. 2015?

[orchid prism]

Meh... mods have long since taken over the future of Minecraft.

[feral ferry]

Like, looking at what companies like the Warframe guys are presenting

It's so criminal to even compare Minecraft Live to what they are doing

Tennocon just brings so many amazing announcements for cinematic quests

Minecraft Live is just.. vote for a new mob that's prolly going to be useless

[unborn spruce]

Welcome to slack jaw consumerism.

[knotty hearth]

Anyone got any good tips on lurch strifeing on apex with the 60 he?

[thorny palm]

😱

[deft bloom]

Saponification is an event that occurs after death in which a body undergoes chemical changes that transform body fat into a substance called adipocere. Adipocere is a byproduct of decomposition. It is an organic material, with the consistency of semi-hard cheese and a soapy, waxy texture.

[fading spade]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=nI893vkD6MI

This is a good song
Stuck in my head for weeks lol

[fallow bronze]

In #🎮│game?

[feral ferry]

As Aeon would say, brain rot

[deft bloom]

there's a lake made of adipocere in elden ring so it's relevant

[fading spade]

Oh...that sounds disgusting :')

[feral ferry]

So uh I'm not sure if this is nsfw ||https://www.theboredcard.com/2023/10/03/starfield-player-discovers-hidden-planet-filled-with-all-the-dildos-developers-removed-from-cyberpunk-2077/||

Is this like, some edgy version of the onion?

[static island]

LOL

[young hill]

https://youtu.be/aHLzNnL81ms?si=67agRAvC8I7BB3c4

[fading spade]

😍💜
Split Second
My beloved

[paper fiber]

if anyone plays any fighting game (SF6,Tekken) how does it feel like using the wooting 60he playing it

[bright creek]

A copy of Black Ops for the Wii, I've had this since 2011. I was a normal kid I promise.

[novel umbra]

normal kids would not play black ops on the wii

or buy it pre owned for 45 bucks

[slim token]

shut it cod on wii went hard

[novel umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/on-cod-gif-2719497445038114894

[slim token]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimple-pun-puns-sea-puns-shark-my-words-gif-27141528

[feral ferry]

Hmm

3DS and WiiU are dead

[still spire]

Nintendo online is next

[feral ferry]

What https://www.pcgamer.com/the-modder-behind-burps-of-skyrim-and-snores-of-skyrim-has-made-a-breakthrough-in-the-field-of-customizable-flatulence-with-farts-of-skyrim/

That is ONE HELL of a title

"breakthrough in the field of customizable flatulence"

[orchid prism]

Lemme guess... queefs as well now?

[novel umbra]

farts

[feral ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjQXdwkgEE

GN sure are late

[hardy merlin]

Isn't GN benchmarking games since not long ago? 2-3 weeks I think
Plus they want to be as accurate as possible given LTT drama last month

[feral ferry]

GN spent months on the ROG Ally video

They were wildly late but that's just cause how in-depth they were

I... feel conflicted cause they miss the prime time for such videos

But their in-depth nature is best in class

Idk, they seem to be doing well though, so it works out

[hardy merlin]

As long as it isn't a year after game release it'll do

[feral ferry]

https://youtu.be/N6v9DFESLEo @fading spade

Since you have a techgasm for Deck

[hardy merlin]

Deck good
Mirage non
Not on Steam
And Ubisoft Connect is particularly heavy on Deck -.-

[fallow bronze]

Jesus christ epics save sync is bad

[bleak pike]

Damn that's running good

[bleak pike]

Who doesn't

The deck is amazing

[unborn spruce]

Me tbh. Deck was good but that was in absence of anything good. Yeah deck is great compared to the competition. (What competition)

Doesn’t really change that it’s an eh handheld when the Legion exists.

I try to avoid calling the first halfway decent thing great because it almost never is and something immediately comes out better. See Legion Go.

[bleak pike]

Legion sucks in many ways though

[unborn spruce]

I mean how so? All of the spec so far is great, it’s just expensive.

It’s literally just the Ally with the shit parts fixed.

[feral ferry]

Pleasant isn't known for good takes

Legion Go I think it's called, is the best handheld that exists right now

[hardy merlin]

Specs may be greater, but battery life and low-energy efficiency suffer heavily

[bleak pike]

Oh I got mixed up actually

[unborn spruce]

I mean how so? Thanks to it being able to do integer scaling which the Deck can’t do it gets about as much saving as the Deck does.

Legit it’s straight up the best handheld bar none.

[bleak pike]

But one thing I dislike about these alternative handhelds is the lack of track pad

[unborn spruce]

Eh? Legion has an integrated mouse.

Screw trackpad.

[bleak pike]

How dare you say that about the god tier ones on the deck

Another thing is not using steam os

[feral ferry]

SteamOS ew

[unborn spruce]

Honestly? Good. SteamOS being locked to the Deck intrinsically makes it F tier.

F tier bad OS.

Not good for this industry.

[bleak pike]

I don't disagree tbh, though it's technically not, but officially yes.

[unborn spruce]

Let new competition thrive like nuts I say. Fuck the Steam Deck. Cheap shit that gives you cheap shit. We can all do better.

[bleak pike]

I do wish steam would hurry up in releasing it like they said a long time ago.