also hard disagree on the slider, it's a big part to make you take a risk to get stuff back when otherwise death doesnt really punish you hard, especially with bonfires being much closer than they were in ds1 or so
#🎮│game
fringe salmon
jovial coral
then what is the point of dying
feral ferry
Retry the fight
jovial coral
they could just give u an infinite healthbar
feral ferry
You can die easily even with max stats
fringe salmon
spend your souls before it? not like you get anything special if you save up souls from 10 boss fights
feral ferry
I just hate losing my currency in a boss arena and having to avoid it until I take them back
feral ferry
And I don't want any punishment or risk
I just want to have a hard rhythm boss fight
jovial coral
wrong game for you
fringe salmon
I mean, then spend the souls before a fight, and you lose nothing if you die then
if you have souls from like 2 trash mobs and lose them who cares
jovial coral
in the souls series u could also always retrieve them with smart homeward bone usage
*almost always
fringe salmon
yeah, unless you are like close to the end and you need a lot for a level up you dont really lose much, and then you are already really strong from being high level
jovial coral
I'm rly happy that fromsoft doesn't give into the "difficulty slider" crowd
artists deserve to produce the art as they envisioned it
fringe salmon
I think difficulty sliders make sense, just not in the same way for every game
and DS has some soft difficulty sliders in their game
like use a shield in DS3 and like almost all fights get piss easy
fringe salmon
I think in other games it makes sense to have them but in a souls game less so
jovial coral
they are already really well balanced in terms of your dmg and enemy hp and adding dmg or dmg resistence would detract from the feeling of combat in these games
some people might not like it
but you can't please everyone
souls series got it's cult following for a reason
slim token
all platform game vs ps exclusive, who would have thought
almost as if the limited audience has something to do with it
fringe salmon
meanwhile people acting weird after this came out when it's old news that 16 was a timed exclusive... as if sony would just give up all exclusivity for potentially their biggest game in 2023 lmfao https://twitter.com/gematsu/status/1589619391645319170
slim token
either way, the souls franchise is a behemoth, and elden ring was overhyped, so of course it's going to have the momentum
fringe salmon
yes and since we still don't know who the random quote is form I dont really care about it
jovial coral
wait I don't get how elden ring was overhyped? before release I didn't see that much hype afaik the hype came when reviews came out and almost universally praised the game
trim rock
Dunno, twitch chat was always gigahyped for it
slim token
every gameshow livestream that showed (or even didn't show) elden ring information in which i tuned in for the past two years had people talking and expecting more information about the game, host and chatters alike
it's a meh game
feral ferry
There's nothing wrong with it
It's a different take on the souls genre
Solid foundation, more things to do, ultimately still souls
Either you like it or not
I choose to dislike it just cause it's inherently punishingly difficult
I don't mind hard, as long as it's fair
In Elden Ring it's made to frustrate you too much
slim token
i agree, it comes down to preference
you have your reasons to not like it, i have mine
the fact that the franchise has years and years of fans and platforms compared to a relatively newer franchise like horizon will be hard for people to pay attention to the newer one, when many like a familiar oldschool feeling
feral ferry
I am wondering where's the technical advancement
Cause it looks somewhat modern in terms of graphics
But the engine jank feels like it's on the same engine as Dark Souls 1
AI pathfinding getting stuck on doors, attacking you through walls, getting stuck on random shit, etc
I don't mind jank but man you'd think they figured out by now how to make a game not janky in 20 years
fringe salmon
play DS1 and compare it again, how many hidden loading screens they had to add there vs in elden ring where you barely have any loading places hidden like that
feral ferry
Never played DS1
Sure, I guess a continuous world is cool af
Maybe just cause of graphical advancement?
jovial coral
the later games in the series feel much different than ds1
ds1 feels very jank in comparison
even tho I love it
fringe salmon
just look at ds1 art and maps of what they envisioned and how closed off it is instead of being an open area
ds1 has tons of loading screens that are just well hidden in long staircases and such
jovial coral
ds1 still has the best interconnected world until anor londo out of all the souls games
I don't even mind not having warp for the 1st half that much
cuz the world is so nicely connected
fringe salmon
yeah you can see they basically wanted to do an elden ring game there already just were limited, and to be fair they did very well with those limits
earnest venture
There's nothing wrong with it
there is definitely something wrong with exploration and boss mechanics
also balancing but they couldnt really avoid that
jovial coral
I mean elden ring isn't perfect 
fringe salmon
oh yeah
still really wished it was a next gen console game so they could've done so much more lol
jovial coral
but it's still a large step up from the drivel most aaa studios put out nowadays
I just hope they can do even better with their next game
do a little more with the jump in combat in particular
much more potential there
fringe salmon
we might also get a sekiro like game that changes the gameplay before we get a new soulsborn like
jovial coral
that would be fine by me
I still need to play sekiro but that won't happen in the near future since I gotta focus on uni
these games always require a lot of focus for me
fading spade
wasnt GPD's only arguement about buying their product over Steam Deck was because you can only pirate games on Windows?
willow quiver
I mean elden ring isn't perfect <:duh:638143002321223710>
Elden ring is so hard bro
I have 2.6 hours with 0 progression
jovial coral
wasnt GPD's only arguement about buying their product over Steam Deck was becaus...
waaaa? isn't this more of a topic for tech talk
willow quiver
I haven't even gotten away from the gate thing yet
jovial coral
I have 2.6 hours with 0 progression
still not finished since my controller broke
love that game tho
willow quiver
Idk who thought putting a gold armored horse guy at the beginning was ok
fringe salmon
uh, have you tried like, just not killing it
jovial coral
oh he is there to teach u that u don't need to fight everything
I just killed him
cuz I'm like cool or smth
willow quiver
uh, have you tried like, just not killing it
Yeah, I still didn't get far
barren pewter
oh he is there to teach u that u don't need to fight everything
literally what every pimply faced 12 year old playing with an unsharpened balisong needs to learn
jovial coral
u can also go elsewhere
willow quiver
No
jovial coral
go to the church at night
willow quiver
I went so far away from the spawn
earnest venture
TP back?
willow quiver
How
earnest venture
open the map and click on any grace you want to warp to
there are hundreds of them
willow quiver
Bruh yeah
But still
How r u supposed to progress
Tping back won't help me in any way
jovial coral
I just told u to get the item that lets u summon help
earnest venture
if you dont know how to progress then you missed the hints the game gives you to figure that out
summoning is one of them
willow quiver
I just told u to get the item that lets u summon help
how do you get it
earnest venture
and you learn that in the Church of Elleh right at the start
jovial coral
GO TO THE CHURCH AT NIGHT
willow quiver
bro where's the church
jovial coral
after the golden horse guy
feral ferry
Okay good
jovial coral
🤷♂️
jovial coral
hopefully
feral ferry
Yeeaaah Mouz lost
They just got entry'd by one player cause Torszi missed his AWP shot
feral ferry
Is Jame even good
Jame looks boring af as a player
I know nothing about how outsiders play
jovial coral
well boring isn't an antonym to good
jovial coral
I think jame has a big brain he also hit some insane clips today
feral ferry
Match point
Fucking hell mouz
This is why I stopped routing for this team
They always choke
I wonder how tiresome it is to play through so many matches in a major tournament
jovial coral
must be very tiring
feral ferry
We had a pro player in this server though they seem to be infrequent
jovial coral
I already find checking all my corners in tac to be incredibly tiresome
lets fockin go outsiders
JAME TIME
jovial coral
I'm serious
orchid prism
Good for her I guess.
jovial coral
who is that
feral ferry
It's the art of sticking things in your lower bum
And making a recording of it
While acting as a gamer girl
jovial coral
exciting
feral ferry
She's got a lot of followers
And is honestly quite good at it
Ahh she seems to be promoting the betting company
So not there for fun purposes it seems
Boombl4's next wife perhaps? 
fringe salmon
honestly, what is wrong with you
feral ferry
What's up
willow quiver
Vexx dawg
feral ferry
What did I do now
fading spade
It's the art of sticking things in your lower bum
Lower bum implies the existence of the upper bum
fading spade
:')
fading spade
wait.....if you have an Xbox and PC, can you get around paying for MP if you only play MP on PC?
young hill
Some games on Xbox are free to play online if you did not know
And based on what you are asking, if you wanted to buy one copy of a game it would need to support Play Anywhere
fading spade
So...If I got an Xbox Series console, Id still have to buy Forza 5 again?
or Minecraft, cause I have Minecraft on the Xbox App
grizzled bramble
Yeah 😅
jovial coral
any 1 play chess?
sudden prawn
fading spade
Remember Quantum from earlier? he was goign on and on and on about how he doesnt know how to run a .desktop file
and now they have this when popup when you download emudeck
they added this shit cause of his dumb ass
fringe salmon
no I honestly forgot it already and wish you would just not bring him up again
jovial coral
the who in the what
fringe salmon
really bad person, ignore it, continue with your day
jovial coral
probably dont wanna know
nimble current
you don't, literally a toxic nobody thinking he's a tech reviewer
small comet
the less attention they get the better
fringe salmon
exactly, so anyway look at my new dog
willow quiver
Never adopting dogs from Ohio ever again 😒🤚
fading spade
he only reviews TVs
jovial coral
didn't we agree to stop talking about whoever that is
fading spade
ye
sudden prawn
yeah...
fading spade
on console??
sudden prawn
no, controller players on PC
fading spade
oh..
I wish I was better at Apex
I like it but I keep getting killed LOL
and it works on Deck <3
sudden prawn
pretty much the only way to get better
fading spade
(Using EAC...cough cough Epic, yeah it cant work....ffs)
sudden prawn
fed to the meat grinder until you start grinding the meat
sudden prawn
on steam I have 508 hours, but that's not including time on origins
fading spade
oooooppppppp
fading spade
o
sudden prawn
think the best pro player for tf2 has 25k hours
fringe salmon
best tf2 pros dont play anymore pretty sure lel
sudden prawn
b4nny doesn't play anymore?
fringe salmon
ehh I might be biased but I think no NA team came close to epsilon
fringe salmon
I mean, think epsilons last match as that monster team was like 2015 so yeah if we think about someone who continued to play
nimble current
fading spade
Like a G6.....
Fucking hate that song
fringe salmon
only thing I'm sad about is that the best etf2l team had to be sponsored by a trash org like epsilon rip
sudden prawn
yeah shame Tf2 in general never got great support
fringe salmon
well thats just by nature of 50% of valve being a terrible company so they killed the game as best as they could
sudden prawn
yeah, and the original intent was casual 24v24
before when games had to have a competitive mode to be taken seriously
fringe salmon
well if they truly never had no intention they would've never added the comp mode years later
sudden prawn
the community really pushed for it and the skeleton crew they had tried their best
but now TF2 have like 1 real dev
and a intern
fringe salmon
it really would've not needed much to just have the tf2 blog actualyl promote a lan for once or even do a single sponsoring of it etc.
sudden prawn
yeah...
even like a small 10k tournament from valve would have been great
prize pool in TF2 were never large to begin with
nimble current
VaLvE dIdN't MaKe TiTaNfAlL 2 - some zoomer
sudden prawn
fading spade
:')
nimble current
fringe salmon
not even prize pool, would've been nice if at i51 or whenever it was, where the community crowdfunded an australian team to make it to lan so we had NA vs EU vs OCE for the first time on lan, if they had paid for those plane rides or so
fringe salmon
instead all we get is empty promises and sometimes we get the honor of making our own comp medals for tournaments that they add, they dont even make those
sudden prawn
yeah, all update for the past few years have all been community made.
classic valve
fringe salmon
I mean dont get me wrong I think some of them were cool badges, but its all community made
nimble current
you'd think if valve is so against making any new games they could at least maintain their existing ones
sudden prawn
Kek nice
fringe salmon
nimble current
especially when they're making an almost unfathomable amount of money from steam sales alone, having a team dedicated to making new TF2 etc content seems like a piss in the ocean financially
sudden prawn
It's because of the company structure
trim rock
But why when you can just make concepts that get scrapped before public sees anything
fringe salmon
and they still make tons of money when people sell things on the market
sudden prawn
Damn i need to check my backpack
I made $20 recently by selling random csgo cases i got years ago
fringe salmon
should've put mysavings in pans instead of stocks when the war happend tbh
trim rock
Yeah can they make more old crates give good hats so I can get some more steam wallet monies thanks
sudden prawn
should've put mysavings in pans instead of stocks when the war happend tbh
wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Russians moved their savings into steam items
jovial coral
there is a good chance I still get to have a chance tomorrow
but there is also a chance I don't
sudden prawn
especially the dota 2
jovial coral
I am now a big navi and whoever out of tl vs heroic loses fan
unless navi plays that team
then it's doomed
maybe it's time to find god
sudden prawn
are you betting money on this?
jovial coral
no just ingame pickems
sudden prawn
oh
jovial coral
I will gain another token if I get 5/9
so I guess I would gain like 1-2€
looking very dicey
if only sprout went 0-3
Here's how my Bernie can still win energy
fading spade
I think of voice actors as worthless as prostitutes, you are getting paid to just whore out your voice for a few hours
////bruh
I would prefer games to not have voice acting at all
nimble current
doesn't that make actors whores in general, they're selling out their bodies to be on screen for money
brainlet take
jovial coral
why are we always so mad about random people's braindead opinions?
fringe salmon
good question
fringe salmon
they always were around just usually if its a random, people ignore it and dont talk about it
fading spade
I miss internet before the simpletons knew how to use it
same..
feral ferry
> I think of voice actors as worthless as prostitutes, you are getting paid to j...
Where did you even get this
Another casual episode of lanaposting?
jovial coral
I mean what else
fading spade
Where did you even get this
That Nintendo fan boy
Who keeps trying to beg people to buy his books
And shits all over anything that isn't the switch
fading spade
Harmon smith
I doubt that's his real name
fringe salmon
ok so some rando
fading spade
He got banned on YouTube for a week because of what he said to Bayonetta's VA
nimble current
imagine caring what gamers say
fading spade
Xd
nimble current
fading spade
Don't you hate waiting 3 minutes to get onto forza 5
Just for your aunt to arrive at the house literally like 10 seconds after the game loaded you into the world
jovial coral
Nope
fading spade
I'm glad she's here
Just bad timing lol
some thin ass rubber, never seen that ebfore
nimble current
forza be like waiting 5-10 mins from the point of starting the game until you're finally in and then its not even fun
can't even do drifts without the car doing a 180 spin every !"#%¤!"#%& time
fringe salmon
guess I should try that game I kickstarted some years ago before it goes down lol
just incase it does a ffxiv and comes back really well so I have legacy mounts or such xD
trim rock
Wait what oh guess that's why I kinda stopped getting updates about it
fringe salmon
well they are/were still hiring so it seems like they do plan to revamp it and not just go dark
so there is some chance it comes back
trim rock
A crow reborn
fringe salmon
crow was a black phoenix all along
trail dove
damn who would've guessed that journey's end wasn't the final update
trim rock
Journey's end end
feral ferry
Damn
Didn't they say that the Labour of love was again, the last update?
They can't stop working on terraria
Which I honestly can't at all be mad at
Terraria 2 where though
Or... some other game from relogic?
Relogic has so far at least a pretty amazing track record
I would love for them to do something new but just as good
small comet
???
fringe salmon
crowfall
fringe salmon
well maybe in some months or so V2 is good
small comet
speaking of
feral ferry
Alright
This is some wild ass tournament
Fnatic qualified and Vitality/NiP/Faze are out...
Sprout still in for a little bit
feral ferry
Load up nitro and start flying
fading spade
you cant xd you need to use the car they gave you
hot spire
.
feral ferry
Bit late on that
But rather cool for them to go multiplayer and interstellar
I want to know how much the game engine is better
In my KSP, going any more than 1x speed completely fucks the physics
hot spire
they said all acceration is physics
feral ferry
I don't really know how come with 1x speed and no key inputs the rocket launches perfectly
But with 2x speed is starts to wobble like a raw sausage and disintegrates
hot spire
ksp physics warp isnt supported
its there to be there kind of thing
"Physical time warp can lead to inaccuracies in the physics calculation, possibly damaging the vessel. Complex, long, and highly-accelerated vessels are at risk of destruction if physical time warp is enabled. Wobbling becomes much more likely with physics warp turned on. It is therefore recommended not to have more than 2x physical time warp with high-thrust engines enabled."
from the official wiki
feral ferry
Even with 2x it's just borderline unusable
bleak pike
barren pewter
what mod is that?
bleak pike
what mod is that?
simple planes
barren pewter
👍
ripe tendon
couldnt
You could've sold your stuff on their website before it launched
that's what I did, thankfully. Knew that game was gonna be awful
jovial coral
Sprout still in for a little bit
Still have a chance to get my coin I just need navi and tl to win
I hate rooting vs big
But I'll have to now
willow quiver
Should I wait for mw2019 to go on sale for 20$ or buy the latest mw2, mw2 is kinda expensive for a first mw game
nimble current
not really the same game tho
jovial coral
CoD bad
nimble current
mw is relatively set in present "realistic" times
apex some futuristic overwatch copypasta or something
willow quiver
Also is the 2019 campaign good?
nimble current
I've yet to play it
jovial coral
apex some futuristic overwatch copypasta or something
Lmfao apex and overwatch are just as different as cod and apex
nimble current
I dunno its all battle pass microtransaction driven cancer to me
jovial coral
Don't need to buy them it's just cosmetics
nimble current
bet it still has the play now or forever miss out on these cosmetics battle pass fomo though
jovial coral
Sure it does but you can just play with default skins
willow quiver
Lmfao apex and overwatch are just as different as cod and apex
The difference between overwatch and apex is the same as Minecraft and pixel gun 3D
jovial coral
?
feral ferry
you claiming overwatch is a sandbox game?
They never claimed that
fading spade
Overwatch and Apex they claim are similar to Minecraft and Pixel Gun 3D
Therefor, sandbox vs FPS shooter
feral ferry
The DIFFERENCE BETWEEN overwatch and apex IS THE SAME AS Minecraft and pixel gun 3d
Minecraft and pixel gun 3d are pretty damn similar
fading spade
what is the difference? you can get guns in MC modded
and they look different too, the ames
feral ferry
Or am I mistaking the games, isn't pixel gun 3d that zombie game
jovial coral
Idk what pixelgun 3d is but from pictures I highly doubt that statement is true
feral ferry
Oh I mistook pixel gun 3d for that miner z game
Yeah I never played pixel gun, I can't vouch for how different it is from minecraft
fading spade
Or am I mistaking the games, isn't pixel gun 3d that zombie game
its very much just a minecraft looking type game with Roblox like characters shooting guns made of different sized boxes
bleak pike
Also is the 2019 campaign good?
I liked it a lot
fading spade
Also is the 2019 campaign good?
modern warfare remaster?
willow quiver
modern warfare 2019
fading spade
wait, no there is another game with the same name launched in the same year .-.
willow quiver
yeah
jovial coral
Imagine if we could just give things distinct reasonable names
willow quiver
agreed
fading spade
the same shit happening to modern warfare 2 .-.
nimble current
3 versions of modern warfare 2
not at all confusing and moronic
couldn't they at least called it infinite modern warfare or something if they're so creatively bankrupt they can't think of any new words to put in the title
fading spade
Modern Warfare
Modern Warfare Remaster
Modern Warfare 2019
Modern Warfare 2
Modern Warfare 2 2022
Yep...it's a mess lol
small comet
i dont see how the remaster makes it a mess
i do agree on the 2019 and 2022 titles being messy especially since they tell new storylines
fading spade
MW222 will be like the shortname for it xd
Valve officially promoted Yuzu in their latest Deck promotion video because they know their target audience who want to play Nintendo Switch games on a "Superior" console
there is no reason to have emulators, its just stealing software from the game companies
ah...getting piracy and emulators mixed up
fringe salmon
https://twitter.com/ESLCS/status/1590002040486301696 guess they hade too many bombs on nuke and couldn't keep up the power
Twitter
feral ferry
Wow almost like
Having console-exclusives and proprietary launchers is a shit idea
feral ferry
Steam should be the standard
fading spade
what console exclusive does Steam have?
barren pewter
Days gone
feral ferry
Crackdown 3?
fringe salmon
where do you get steam console exclusives from??
orchid prism
Steam should be the standard
Oh so it's fine as long as it's YOUR preferred launcher 😉
barren pewter
Also some xbox stuff I think
Forza
fading spade
ah...the Playstation exclusives that Sony fan boys are bomb threatening Sony HQ over
got it
fringe salmon
nobody said steam made console exclusives??
barren pewter
ah...the Playstation exclusives that Sony fan boys are bomb threatening Sony HQ ...
How exciting
fading spade
ikr
feral ferry
Oh so it's fine as long as it's YOUR preferred launcher 😉
It should be made into a government controlled thing and make it standardized
Or just make Microsoft own steam
orchid prism
nobody said steam made console exclusives??
You could read my reply as such - I was referring to the proprietary launchers bit.
fringe salmon
You could read my reply as such - I was referring to the proprietary launchers b...
yeah that seemed kinda obvious that your reply was about steam being a launcher....
mostly because steam is the platform and as such any console exclusive would be from valve not from a company named steam
fringe salmon
he didnt say steam would benefit from it
fading spade
he said it should be
jovial coral
Where
fringe salmon
yes usually that means its better for consumers not for the company that gets turned into state ownership
fading spade
doubt it, state owned shit usually gets so full of themselves they lose all ideals they started with and turn to shit
fringe salmon
the point is steam is basically a monopoly that just currently happens to mostly be a good option
fringe salmon
currently yes, doesnt change the position they are in
fading spade
features I use often
chilly trellis
doubt it, state owned shit usually gets so full of themselves they lose all idea...
Well normally it's because they tend to have to pay the workers fairly and don't do as many bribes.
fringe salmon
and they we need more options or in theory (just wont happen here) have something central state owned or so that it wont make bad decisions for money gains at the expense of the consumer
feral ferry
It's not like Office is not a monopoly
What's a genuinely good replacement for Office suite
Lib is not that great
fading spade
the last time I launched BF5 from Steam, it opened Origin and then origin closed and the EA app installer opened and asked me to login and that crashed because Origin was still running in the background, so I had to run the installer manually and remove origin and AGGH launcher hell just for one game
fading spade
What's a genuinely good replacement for Office suite
OnlyOffice
feral ferry
Imo "vital to businesses and consumers" applications should become protected by international law from monopoly laws
chilly trellis
I think the steam monopoly is a bad thing overall, they got there first and now normalised 30% cut of everything.
I have no evidence of it but games seemed to go up in price since being steam only, I remember the bad days of getting a preordered game delivered and then opening it up only to see a steam key.
Killed my physical medium xD
feral ferry
So, in a way Steam, Office as well
chilly trellis
There are no good monopolies to be fair
fading spade
I think the steam monopoly is a bad thing overall, they got there first and now ...
dont modern console do the same shit too? the disc is just a license to prove you bough tthe game but the game still needs to be downloaded online?
chilly trellis
It's just "hasn't actively hurt us more than usual " is the best we get
feral ferry
I wouldn't mind United Nations telling Steam to lower their 30% cut to 12%
fringe salmon
It's just "hasn't actively hurt us more than usual " is the best we get
this
fading spade
Ooo
That'll make a huge difference for steam deck 💜
trim rock
Mmm... steak..
fading spade
Lol
chilly trellis
Just as 2.2 is coming out for forza this week.
They are always just .1 behind haha
jovial coral
Fsr 3 when
fringe salmon
not going to do a lot either way since the resolution on steam deck is so low
upscaling from 240p or w/e is not going to give great results
but maybe makes it stable on deck at least
jovial coral
Nice to have for people like me who don't mind lowering the res even more
If only I played cyberpunk lol
fading spade
I think the steam monopoly is a bad thing overall, they got there first and now ...
wdym games are more expensive on Steam? They are the same price on other launchers (unless a sale is happening) and sometimes more expensive on consoles
fringe salmon
well if you just lower resolution you'd have better fps than keeping resolution with fsr lel
feral ferry
wdym games are more expensive on Steam? They are the same price on other launche...
That's cause consumers wouldn't pay more
Valve still takes 30%
So what, should companies adjust their prices by 30% extra?
jovial coral
well if you just lower resolution you'd have better fps than keeping resolution ...
Afaik fsr performance hit is very low
fringe salmon
That's cause consumers wouldn't pay more
no because there are contracts that usually enforce price parity on launch for x months or so
feral ferry
Some do, but that'd mean 60 euro games would become 90 euros
fringe salmon
Afaik fsr performance hit is very low
yeah but its not 0 so running it at lower res is still more fps lel
feral ferry
I know that Gaijin inflates their Steam price by 30% to adjust for Steam's cut
It does seem that Activision is starting to also heavily inflate their price
jovial coral
Generating frames in between is either really ugly or very latency heavy depending on how you do it
fading spade
most games ive seen are far more expensive on Switch compared to Epic / Origin / Steam
nimble current
if you want to go cheaper and a bit greasy there's always key sellers
fading spade
well, the games that are on all those anyway
chilly trellis
wdym games are more expensive on Steam? They are the same price on other launche...
I mean before this xD.
As in when you could buy pc games in stores and on a disc.
I'm pretty sure there is an agreement on steam selling that you cannot sell it for less on another platform these days as well
fading spade
so many people have ignored that last part
chilly trellis
The transition from disc to only steam was annoying.
fading spade
wait no
fringe salmon
how does that relate to upscaling on the steam deck being not a big thing?
jovial coral
And you lose one of the benifits of higher framerate depending on the method 1 methode increases latency the other impacts quality
Also the less fps u have the worse these algorithms are
So 30 to 120 fat chance
chilly trellis
Yeah it's not 60 Vs 120 with interpolation as there is a trade off with latency as it's a fake frame
30 to 120 would be worse than 30 standard I'm certain
1 real frame and 3 fake frames is way too much visually for artifacts and the added latency per fake frame to be generated
fringe salmon
and the latency is worse than native
jovial coral
Playable is subjective
fading spade
Oh yeah...I forgot the Xbox One series would not boot up if you didnt have the Kinect plugged in .... fun time .-.
fringe salmon
I'm still not sure how dlss on a 4090 relates to upscaling on the steam deck though
chilly trellis
Yeah it's magnitudes less power.
The people who only show you the framerate are being very naive or intentionally misleading by not highlighting the latency difference
feral ferry
Now that I have learnt that decoupling controls from framerate makes lag near imperceptible, I want Unreal 6 to incorporate such stuff
fringe salmon
why 6 and not 5
feral ferry
I think, like you said, rewriting whole pipeline is a major undertaking and would be a key marketing point for Unreal 6
"Never feel lag ever again"
jovial coral
fading spade
Now that I have learnt that decoupling controls from framerate makes lag near im...
is that why minecraft mouse movement feels like shit when its below 60FPS?
feral ferry
Yes?
jovial coral
Klicksphilip always based
feral ferry
In all games mouse movement and framerate are tied
Which is why if you are lagging really badly you can't play as good
fading spade
there are some games im fine with playing at 30, but minecraft aint one of them and its down to the mouse movement
feral ferry
Now if you decouple controls from framerate, lag doesn't feel like lag
It's nowhere near as bad
But it's probably really really hard to implement into game engines
fading spade
I think Bedrock Minecraft unlinks them
that game has lagged many times for me and the mouse movement stays the same
fringe salmon
doubt it
fading spade
well, I did set it to max render distance LOL
feral ferry
Did in bedrock you ever get locked mouse controls on lag spikes?
I suppose it's not really lag spiking on C# which I think bedrock is based on
A lot more efficient than Java
fringe salmon
you are just throwing words together in a sentence that dont make sense
feral ferry
The few times I played on bedrock I never actually experienced lag spikes
Prolly cause of change of programming language
fading spade
yeah, same here except when the render was too high
feral ferry
C# is a whole lot faster than Java
fading spade
^
yeh lol
Bedrock is smooth af
im better at parkour on Bedrock
despite the stranger movement
feral ferry
But I do wonder if, like Lana said, you experienced a major lag spike, would your controls get locked up
On any game they would
what
fading spade
it is multiplayer
jovial coral
Bedrock is multiplayer lol
feral ferry
Mods
jovial coral
Mods
fading spade
you can invite Xbox friends to your singleplayer world at any time you like
cant do that on Java ;-;
well, you can using the Essential mod
but all players need the mod installed
feral ferry
Mojang might be seeking to kill Java edition, I hope it will never die though
That or if they make Bedrock not into a cashgrab
feral ferry
Mojang is microsoft
fading spade
no
feral ferry
They own them
jovial coral
Wdym cashgrab I got it for free
fading spade
Microsoft own the Bedrock edition but Mojang still make and dev Java edition
feral ferry
So?
fading spade
Maybe?
fringe salmon
But I do wonder if, like Lana said, you experienced a major lag spike, would you...
if you recall the video about it, uncoupling would mean you'd have those weird moments where your screen would get moved so you have black areas in the not rendered part which isnt the case
feral ferry
Microsoft can tell Mojang to shut down Java and they will
feral ferry
if you recall the video about it, uncoupling would mean you'd have those weird m...
Pair that with DLSS
It'd be amazing
fringe salmon
???
fading spade
Microsoft can tell Mojang to shut down Java and they will
yeh...thats what I fear :/
they already prohibit Bedrock on Linux
and the new launcher for Java pushes Bedrock heavily
jovial coral
Afaik no
chilly trellis
Mojang is definitely owned by Microsoft, they can do whatever they want but have kept it running alongside their rewrite of Minecraft
fading spade
No, everyone on Java has Bedrock now, since they gave out free copies of the game
feral ferry
That's why they don't
fringe salmon
Pair that with DLSS
you want even more frames where like 30% of your screen is just a black bar?
jovial coral
Doesn't everyone with java get bedrock for free?
chilly trellis
Everyone who owned it did yeah, not sure what the concern is there as it was free.
feral ferry
you want even more frames where like 30% of your screen is just a black bar?
Why not use DLSS to upscale the unrendered parts?
fringe salmon
???
fading spade
yes anymore
fringe salmon
you want 4k black bars instead of 2k black bars
fading spade
go buy Java now and you get Bedrock for free
fringe salmon
yes thats what we are referencing
the black bars are part that dont get rendered since you move but the frame doesnt update
feral ferry
The visible part runs on native resolution and framerate, meanwhile unrendered part gets rendered at 720p or so and like 5FPS, so that if you turn around there is something there, and the native image can pick up on that
fringe salmon
so there is nothing there to upscale
feral ferry
Wouldn't that work and be somewhat efficient?
fringe salmon
you cant upscale what isnt there
fringe salmon
you wouldn't know what to render since it cant predict your movement
you would need to render every possible mouse movement doable in one frame
feral ferry
Is that a problem?
fringe salmon
yes that would be a shit ton of frames lol
and you cant render it at less fps since it would then not fit with the moved screen if that happens
trim rock
Couldn't you just do a cubemap or env map or whatever modern games do it type of low res render that gets used for predicting what's off screen? Obviously would be very hardware intensive but maybe it could work out to be a benefit
feral ferry
There should be ways of making that work, and it does sound like something worth trying to figure out
fringe salmon
you could likely do that but would still need to be rendered all the time and then adjusted to be fitting the missing image
but if that is performant or so idk
but you cant just do something simple to just render something you dont know exists
need something like nanite on the level of extra rendering to stich that together
fading spade
ah nice, made a repo for all performance boost stuff hes made videos about :D
Allocating more Vram, Adding more swap
those are the two ive done already
SMH, cant say "Swappiness" on youtube
WHY DOES VALVE NOT ENABLE TRIM ON DEFAULT ON DECK??
bleak pike
Whats the benefit
fading spade
less ssd usage
fringe salmon
maybe if you check the info about trim in the link (and if its a good video the video will talk about it too)
then you would find the answer from valve
fading spade
Yeah, but they can do it for the internal SSD
bleak pike
less ssd usage
Why would that matter?
fringe salmon
bit longer lifetime and such
fading spade
less usage too
fringe salmon
yes that is where longer lifetime comes from
fading spade
the swappiness is set to 100 by default ... strange choice
imma set to 1
like the video suggests
fringe salmon
likely just a setting they put the same as for the sd cards or so
fading spade
also, I wonder why they dont also automount external drives
only sd cards
its it a different method to mount those compared to an SD card?
fringe salmon
probably because its not made with that in mind
fading spade
another person seeing how awesome Linux can be :D
nimble current
steam deck isn't really great because of linux though
its more great despite linux
jovial coral
young hill
its more great *despite* linux <:mm:638142954841833512>
Better they use Linux, the registers at the grocery store I work at will literally turn pale and I see the the shiny donut of a windows buffering cursor and I only started seeing these when they updated the systems even bringing in new hardware
fading spade
the bank I go to still uses XP
🤦♀️
ISTG THEY BETTER NOT BE USING IT FOR THE BACKEND SYSTEMS
jovial coral
it's normal for older known quantities to be used
young hill
the bank I go to still uses XP
It is fine but I think whoever built software did a poop job
fading spade
using the OS that people made deadly viruses for, as a critical system inside a bank?
young hill
pretty sure there are companies still using mainframes
What is dat
fading spade
not a good idea m8
young hill
using the OS that people made deadly viruses for, as a critical system inside a ...
Thing is Lana they might be offline
jovial coral
using the OS that people made deadly viruses for, as a critical system inside a ...
they pay ms for security updates
fringe salmon
is it offline? if yes it doesnt really matter what they run
jovial coral
at least for outdated 7 systems
fringe salmon
if someone gets physical access to it any os wont matter
young hill
at least for outdated 7 systems
What is mainframe
fringe salmon
ibm
jovial coral
What is mainframe
fringe salmon
based on what did we get to that now
young hill
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=mainframe
Fair enough, I do basically see a server box when I looked around
fringe salmon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDtaanCENbc mainframe stuff
jovial coral
I was mostly referring to the older mainframes but yeah they also make new ones afaik
fringe salmon
so its incredibly easy to hack into a bank
what caused you to say this?
jovial coral
so its incredibly easy to hack into a bank
prove it
fading spade
what caused you to say this?
I heard IBM and main frame and thought OLD af shit
fringe salmon
nobody even said banks use mainframe...
fading spade
nobody even said banks use mainframe...
fringe salmon
there are probably many banks that still use mainframe, would not surprise me, but those things wont just be connected to the next best wifi spot
thats a big one where they uses the latest mainframe for unnamed companies
jovial coral
also they will be running old as shit that is gonna be challenging to hack is my guess
not sure tho
not a hacker
fading spade
TBF, the irish heathcare department got hacked because one of the staff replied to a phishing email .-.
jovial coral
fading spade
doesnt matter the OS at that point
fringe salmon
yeah social engineering is how 90%+ or so of infrastructure hacks will happen
much easier to trick stupid human than to trick smart machine
fading spade
yeahhh..
young hill
A casino got hacked because the aquarium camera was connected to wifi
jovial coral
well the machine has most likely also been programmed by a human
fading spade
A casino got hacked because the aquarium camera was connected to wifi
👀 default password?
jovial coral
it doesn't
fringe salmon
well lots of people dont know it's still a big thing
young hill
👀 default password?
Not clear details by this point but I would think it possible
jovial coral
they have just been around for very long
so there are old ones
I just wasn't very clear
small comet
yes but these days mainframes are still produced and they are still very very capable
completely different world from normal servers
fringe salmon
it's just not a very public facing thing anymore, they dont advertise mainframe in ads for consumers etc. so people either forgot about it, think its gone or younger ones never heard of it
jovial coral
they are also not used in all the things they used to be anymore I'm pretty sure
nowadays any old pc can compile and run code
back in the early days of computer science
not so much
fringe salmon
common yes, known less so
ohh mouse beat ence, nice
I will always root for ence to lose tbh
god I hate the stupid ence ingame mvp music
jovial coral
first time
fading spade
the camera angles are so realistic too
not just locking the camera to the tilt of the bike
jovial coral
fringe salmon
god I hope big is 7-1 vs navi at some point, dont care about the final result
I need more 7-1 in brazil memes to trigger my brazilian friend
orchid prism
love this one too
It's overdone but BF is the realistic one of the three 😄
jovial coral
god I hope big is 7-1 vs navi at some point, dont care about the final result
pleaseno I need navi to win for my pickems
jovial coral
that would work
big also went 7/1 vs furia tho didn't they?
sorry
other way around
1/7
sudden prawn
It is one of the oldest sport, also lots of money in it
jovial coral
bruh navi kinda getting fcked rn
fringe salmon
fucked I missed it, was it 7-1 at some point
jovial coral
dunno I was getting groceries
still at least 1 other map left
they could go 6-9 tho
jovial coral
lesgo sdy
feral ferry
Only for them to lose in the finals
feral ferry
if only I had mouz andvancing instead of faze or vit
Mate nobody knew that Furia would go 3-0
Cloud9 is great though
How tf did fnatic go 3-1 is beyond anyone's imagination
Man what a major this is shaping to be, I am getting PGL Major Krakow 2017 vibes
Vita, ENCE, Faze and NiP are out
jovial coral
shame stickers suck
feral ferry
If Navi is getting out this is a wild major
Although BIG is only on a 9-6 lead in a CT sided map
jovial coral
I'm gonna put some jame and outsiders stickers on my awp tho
JAME TIME
only sticker I have on that rn is smithz
navi actually doing it for me rn
feral ferry
If Navi lost vs BIG on CT side Mirage they are shite
jovial coral
I mean yeah but I NEED THEM TO WIN
feral ferry
I wonder how sdy is doing
jovial coral
he killed like 3 ppl in 1 round
feral ferry
I mean working as an IGL with the ego of s1mple
He should be able to tame that wild ass ukrainian somehow
jovial coral
eh 🤷♂️ it's his job
jovial coral
shame big didn't manage to qualify earlier now I have to root against them
jovial coral
well hopefully they get their shit together
feral ferry
Night is still relatively young
jovial coral
honestly it's kinda win - win
if big wins german team qualifies
if navi wins my pickems stay alive
jovial coral
german on that team who except jdc?
jovial coral
yeah that is like calling c9 american
jovial coral
🧌
yeah that's my point
it's actually really cool that big is a full german roster
dat collateral
feral ferry
They will get eco'd I bet
feral ferry
Idk why they don't just push B at this point especially on that eco
They barely play B
jovial coral
idk why no one likes the awp prince it looks so much better than the gungnir
feral ferry
Damn another shit play from BiG
Instead of just pushing through apps they go through mid?
Eh enough backseat gaming but they should know better
feral ferry
Eco rounds vs rifles and it's 2v2 are always really fun
Mirage needs a rework though
jovial coral
tbh I only play deathmatch on dust 2 with ssg ak and deagle
idk about the other maps
I'm so sad no one ever buys scouts
so fun
jovial coral
haven't seen many in rio
NAVIIIIIIIIIIIIII
lesgo
if they win I also need tl to win too
feral ferry
BO3 they can still lose
jovial coral
who was 1st pick?
feral ferry
Liquid is against Spirit?
jovial coral
ye
jovial coral
dunno I just hope for liquid
feral ferry
jovial coral
can't do more than hope
feral ferry
Liquid won against better teams
Spirit curbstomped tier 2s
Liquid's sooo volatile though
Their AWP misses too much
And their calls are so-so
A lot of firepower though, NAF, Yekindar and El1ge are solid
Idk much about Spirit
jovial coral
spirit is trash cope
feral ferry
What
I don't think that's how copyright works
All of that seems just a parody and within rights
orchid prism
Good luck with that argument in a courtroom before you run out of money.
feral ferry
Meh
nimble current
one does not simply kopiera våra möbler
fading spade
All of that seems just a parody and within rights
Yeh it should be
jovial coral
????????
fading spade
he do indeed
feral ferry
If I don't see Quintosh respond with "Lana what is wrong with you" then yer can fuck eff
fringe salmon
If I don't see Quintosh respond with "Lana what is wrong with you" then yer can ...
huh
I assume that is some picture from the video above
either that or no context, either way I dont care so why would I comment on it
jovial coral
my guy has an extremely weird face idk
jovial coral
ah it's just the hat
and my poor eyesight
2 more rounds and I have 4/9
and then I "just" need liquid to win
fringe salmon
really mad big didn't give me a 7-1 meme
why even go to brazil if you cant 7-1 them again smh
jovial coral
BIG oof
jovial coral
still possible for them but I hope not
feral ferry
It's kinda amazing how much firepower Navi is sitting on
(Best?) player in the world, one of top 10 riflers in Electronic, amazing upcoming rifler in B1t, always reliable Perfecto and.. sdy
jovial coral
gggggg
jovial coral
now liquid
feral ferry
Navi will not win the trophy
They just make too many mistakes
Imo Cloud9 will take them down
feral ferry
Or they'll just lose 2-16 cause TL does that
Dust2?
You nearly fucked your mirage
Work on situational awareness and positioning
fading spade
I hope DirectStorage can be emulated in proton once its the standard in games
otherwise a lot of games just wont be able to run
jovial coral
it will not be necessary for a long time I suspect
game devs want their games to be bought and played
if shit doesn't run cuz your ssd is too slow that would suck
fading spade
except when they make it exclusive to some launcher
fringe salmon
wont be the case till like 5 years from now or so
fading spade
Still worrying
fading spade
im fairly confident that AAA game companies will require players to have hardware to work with DirectStorage once that time comes
fringe salmon
not before 5 years or so from now
jovial coral
@feral ferry did u see that double wallbang?
fringe salmon
bottom line is that AAA games want money, so making DS a mandatory thing and alienating everyone for no reason is not something they do
there is no nvme mafia giving them money like a launcher
barren pewter
https://twitter.com/Morwull/status/1589932756804726784
exciting
can't wait to scoop up FC6 and all DLC for a nice healthy discounted price if possible
because it's definitely good
but not over 120 CAD good imo
feral ferry
<@290176243544883200> did u see that double wallbang?
?
I don't really watch the matches
young hill
Hacker
feral ferry
jovial coral
liquid is really intent on ruining this for me aren't they
feral ferry
I told you