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kindred mountain
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Which will be 100g

raven halo
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Oh interesting very cool. I’m intending to do 100g lekker in geon raws but will definitely be looking into these 400g springs

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Where did you get these 400g springs?

kindred mountain
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Custom order from aliexprees seller

raven halo
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Thanks

static sky
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Same, idk why its taking so long to reach the warehouse

kindred mountain
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The geon he switches are really hard to get out wth

digital arch
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I mean I understand completely, ordered right after black friday but right before Christmas so I'm not expecting it this year or anything. Only reason I even care is because phase 2 of the MMO I'm alpha testing starts on Dec 20th and I'm ready to start getting acclimated to my first endgame keyboard. And just genuinely excited about it. Just redid my entire setup and the 80HE is the new centerpiece SwitchyHeart

earnest cedar
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Yeah I read the shipping post and was a bit confusing like speaking past tense them being sent.. I just placed my order today and I'm in the same batch as you though.. maybe because zinc alloy .. who knows.

digital arch
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Yeah that's what I'm assuming, because of the zinc. Thought about maybe changing it to ghost or something to get it sooner but I'm honestly pretty patient so not that big a deal.

digital arch
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Sorry I'm very new to this scene been using razer keyboards for a while now and never did anything to them lol

limpid shell
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i have a question.does the wooting 80he should come with 3 60g and 1 45g switches? or is it just me

shrewd cargo
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3x green 1x yellow in the box

halcyon ibex
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do i buy this or 60he

kindred mountain
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hows the 400g full keyb sound to u guys, good enough or needa mess with it more

digital arch
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Man now I'm thinking about ordering a 60he just to guarantee I'll have one or the other by the 20th 😆

midnight iron
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order 3 to be safe

digital arch
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I'm already working on finishing the 2PC setup but with a ROG Ally as the 2nd PC until I'm not lazy enough to go rebuild my old 12900k then it'll technically be a 3PC setup so it's not like I wouldn't technically need it down the road anyway

finite sierra
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How many days will my refund reflect on my account? I cancel my pre order

valid comet
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cerakey springs be like

valid comet
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hypothetically speaking

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so idk when but they will respond to you

finite sierra
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I think it is automatic? Because i cancel it on hub. Idk if the refund will process automatically

kindred mountain
ornate pike
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that 400g spring be like a godzilla when u press it down

digital arch
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How I went from having 0 wooting products to ordering an 80 and a 60+ without ever actually using one but just based on you guys absolutely stellar reputation in the gaming + keyboard space is really remarkable tbh. Can't wait to start getting some pics/vids out

ornate pike
deep garnet
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I was suppose ti get my 80he yesterday and now it says not delivered will be relisted. What does that mean

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I hope its not getting returned or anything

high forge
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I have it disabled because I don't need rgb on keyboard

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it only overheats when I play cs

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like everything on back is really hot

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in the middle of the keyboard

tight cypress
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Yeah - embed fail club duck_bopping

scarlet spade
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MEH

tall falcon
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yo when i ordered it it said 23-27th but now it says mid january

granite anvil
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The lekker switches are mid tho

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Everything else is just perfect

digital arch
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I'm not really that particular about most things but if I don't end up liking them for whatever reason definitely will look to upgrade

celest badge
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Where’s your find that

granite anvil
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I settled for the jade gamings because there is 0 wobble

digital arch
granite anvil
digital arch
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shrewd cargo
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90

celest badge
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How hard is it to replace switches

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Also can someone send me link for the pros

shrewd cargo
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where you from?

celest badge
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Uk

tight cypress
shrewd cargo
lime ridge
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I hope my order arrives before Christmas 🙏

granite anvil
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shrewd cargo
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watch a few videos and you'll be fine

granite anvil
celest badge
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The links are all in danish or smth

shrewd cargo
celest badge
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Can someone send uk I can’t read it

shrewd cargo
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you can change language with the Globe icon top right

celest badge
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Nvm I can read

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I just guess

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How many switches do I need again

shrewd cargo
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90

digital arch
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So a 90+70 order would be enough for a 60+80, but since the 70's out of stock right now it'd be a lot faster to get 2x90s

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Oh wow they are not cheap lol, definitely gonna be a tax time upgrade if I do end up doing it

shrewd cargo
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how much are you seeing?

digital arch
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$71.99 for the 90 pack, I mean less than $1 isn't really expensive it's just after dropping basically $600 on two keyboards I gotta recover a bit lol

shrewd cargo
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wait for sales, i got a 90 pack for $28 all in

digital arch
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Oh wow, yeah I'm in no hurry great tip ty

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I got a feeling I'll be fine with the Leklers anyway at least for the next few months

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I pc sounds like a jet engine so noise isn't really an issue

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Have a great night guys, thanks for all the help! Glad I pulled the trigger, gonna be so stoked when they arrive!

terse summit
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Wooting

celest badge
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Why does my Ali express go to danish

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There’s no language change

buoyant solstice
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Yes there is.

celest badge
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I’m dumb and can’t find it

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I just translated website

buoyant solstice
celest badge
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Somehow don’t have that

buoyant solstice
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Mobile?

celest badge
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Yes

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I just translated the page

buoyant solstice
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Then you're on your own. 😛

celest badge
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Like on Ali express

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But still gaterons

tight cypress
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If they are more or less in the same price range, then they most likely are real Gaterons and not just some cheap copy hana_Yes

valid anchor
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What’s the difference between the switches? Is it pure feel?

tight cypress
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Mostly sound, feel and aesthetics

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Whether is has closed bottom or not (or maybe partially closed), how much it wobbles, how stiff spring it has, what color of housing and bottom does it have, because it also impacts RGB illumination...

scarlet spade
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Is there that much a difference in feel, even if the actuation force is the same?

tight cypress
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Some switches may feel smoother to press, some may feel less wobbly
There isn't much difference and it's kinda noticeable mostly when you're looking for it, like in side-by-side testing

twilit urchin
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Can I put tape on top of the PET film on the PCB, or is it mandatory to remove the PET film?

verbal solar
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Wtb wooting 60he please

buoyant solstice
tribal scroll
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Feeling conflicted on the off-white caps. Feels great to type on since I'm familiar with it

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Comparison of after vs before

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Matches the Miku pad

bright jewel
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I feel like its not anything bad!

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also

static sky
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What is this style of keycaps called? I cant describe it but they look like legos and they also look edible

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Or they kind of look rubbery

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I like it

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Reminds me of the material/look of these

upbeat notch
static sky
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How it looks the exact same lmao

upbeat notch
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4 days before and still mass production

fossil orchid
tribal scroll
dense berry
finite sierra
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hi

mossy ocean
tribal scroll
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I ordered their new Stormbreaker MAX Carbon Fiber but it's still in transit

tribal scroll
# static sky What is this style of keycaps called? I cant describe it but they look like lego...

Were you talking about mine? These are PBT dye subbed key caps but they are super tall and sculpted with spherical tops. They are MT3 profile (similar to SA), called /dev/tty
https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-mt3-dev-tty-keycap-set

desert parcel
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Guys when the package is out for delivery on the fedex app is it guaranteed to arrive?

shrewd cargo
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nah delivery bro might see where it's from and decide to take it home

shrewd cargo
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jk, these things are never guaranteed, ive had deliveries delayed to the next day even when it's 'out for delivery'

desert parcel
finite sierra
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should i use usb a adaptor or connect to type c?

shrewd cargo
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if you have no issues using the board with the C, then keep using it

finite sierra
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okay is it better than using the adaptor?

shrewd cargo
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not really

finite sierra
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okay i will use the adaptor

small shore
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Hello, I wanted to ask if these keycaps would fit Wooting 80he? I'm new to the keycaps topic, which is why I don't know my way around so well.

tight cypress
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Yup, they'll fit on 80HE hana_Yes

dense ridge
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@small shore i would not suggest u to buy that keycaps! first they are toooo common! also they are overpriced! on aliexpress u can buy them for 15 euro or something

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that keycaps are everywhere 🙂 on every chinese keyboard xd

small shore
low token
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Well whats your budget

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That's most important

small shore
low token
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Well only place you can get in that price rn is alliexpress and amazon

small shore
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what keycaps do u use for ur wooting?

low token
tight cypress
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Hi-Vizes hyper_wah

low token
slow sundial
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the waiting is killing me

slate arch
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But there is still mass production so will be next year

fossil orchid
# celest badge Good quality ?

yes im using them right now came in a box then a pastic bag pre lubed you can always return them for free if you dont like them i bet you wont tho

finite sierra
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Looks clean?

queen nexus
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Not a fan @finite sierra

finite sierra
upbeat notch
slow sundial
slow sundial
upbeat notch
deep garnet
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FINALLY!

finite sierra
buoyant solstice
finite sierra
slow sundial
buoyant solstice
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You sure you don't have an extension running doing that?
Does it happen in another browser?

finite sierra
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Im always using chrome. Its first time. Also on my phone keeps reloading

buoyant solstice
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I've tried three different devices and just as many browsers. Not seeing it here.

finite sierra
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Idk if its on my internet

buoyant solstice
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Turn wifi off on your phone and try again over the cell network real quick?

finite sierra
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Tried safari and mobile data

buoyant solstice
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Hmm

deep garnet
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Im assembling my 80he and after putting the module in the case the cases top does not clip in and it seems loose

tribal scroll
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PCR or zinc case?

deep garnet
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Pcr

tribal scroll
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Does pushing down where the clips are work or are they just loose all around?

deep garnet
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They are clipped in all round except the top

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Ill just try to reassemble it

tribal scroll
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Could be something misaligned towards the top

deep garnet
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Bro the top just doesnt clip in

coarse crest
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Zinc atleast was pretty easy to put the top back on, just slides into place and you screw it back in

desert parcel
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Fedex called me and told me i have to pay customs tax

balmy girder
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Is there an additional import tax to be paid before receiving this item? Bought 2 zinc alloy

deep garnet
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Does the top even have clips. Otherwise ive been sent a broken case or smth

shrewd cargo
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top left and top right has a clip

deep garnet
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Why is the top wobbly asf in the midle

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Ok putting the screws in fixed it nvm

desert parcel
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Will i get refund for the customs tax that i am gonna pay?

finite sierra
desert parcel
finite sierra
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u need to pay for that. If u dont want u can refuse the keyboard i think and they will refund u.

midnight iron
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that depends, did you have duties paid shipping or normal shipping?

buoyant solstice
deep garnet
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How many keys does the wooting 80he have

shrewd cargo
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84 on ansi i think

short geyser
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Not sure exactly but I have heard it

tight swallow
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only if customs have been prepaid

buoyant solstice
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Only if you already paid it once to us*

short geyser
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How would we know if we have paid already?

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That’s a dumb question but I didn’t see it

tight swallow
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invoice? and on the checkout

short geyser
buoyant solstice
short geyser
buoyant solstice
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UK has prepaid duties on our checkout.

short geyser
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I suppose the vat?

buoyant solstice
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VAT/Import duties depending on the value of the order. Above/Below 135GBP

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We cover both.

short geyser
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Thank goodness

finite sierra
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@buoyant solstice can i ask about my refund? can i ask if its on process now.

midnight iron
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You’d need to email wooting about that after paying it (if you had duty paid delivery)

buoyant solstice
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You may not.

midnight iron
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Oh this is a different question lol

short geyser
finite sierra
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Okay thank you. Ive contacted them

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If i buy in local store. Still can i get my IhasWooting?

short geyser
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Ask them to change it to your name?

midnight iron
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No, not unless the store transfers warranty to you from their hub order

buoyant solstice
midnight iron
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Just embrace the tak life of no tag

balmy girder
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is the vat prepaid here in philippines?

finite sierra
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I think u need to pay it for the courier like fedex.

buoyant solstice
atomic brook
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or none at all

balmy girder
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bought 2 zinc alloy so, im thinking about the import tax

finite sierra
finite sierra
atomic brook
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ye thats why hes asking

finite sierra
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Did u order it seperately?

balmy girder
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nope

buoyant solstice
finite sierra
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They u need to pay it for both. just be ready like 100$

balmy girder
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well still in the margin, i thought it would be like 8k php (150$)
thanks for the heads up

finite sierra
balmy girder
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i think it would be better if bought in distri hahaha

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if there is still stock

finite sierra
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yes bro hahaha. Try RotoboxPH i think they have stock rn. I bought PCR yesterday. Price is 15k php. and zinc alloy is 20k php

balmy girder
finite sierra
buoyant solstice
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You're paying imports duties either way at the end of the day.

balmy girder
buoyant solstice
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Buying locally just means it's part of the final price you pay, because the seller paid it.

finite sierra
ripe trench
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is the 80he in stock ? or does it take longer for me to get my keyboard

bright jewel
ripe trench
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so there is no chance to get it earlier than the website says ?

bright jewel
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nope

ripe trench
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okay thanks

eternal flint
desert parcel
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How do i know if my customs tax has been paid already

buoyant solstice
desert parcel
buoyant solstice
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Yup

desert parcel
trim turret
fluid scarab
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how can i get the attention of the wooting team here on discord? i really need to ask a question about my order and dont want to wait for them to respond via emai

twilit urchin
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I plugged in the 80HE and it's not lighting up nor is any key press registering. Any idea as to what this could be?

fluid scarab
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try different usb port

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or check if its plugged in all the way

twilit urchin
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I tried that, used up all the ports on the back and front of my PC.

fluid scarab
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go on wootility on google and check if it notices the keyboard

prisma rivet
twilit urchin
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It doesn't

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Could I possibly have done something wrong with connecting the cable to the module?

west grove
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can you wash the wristwest with water?

twilit urchin
winter nebula
twilit urchin
vagrant haven
vagrant haven
twilit urchin
vagrant haven
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The whole thing or just the daughter board connector?

twilit urchin
vagrant haven
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My technique was just pray I haven’t just cut my finger nails so I have enough nail to push either side of the connector in with my two thumb nails, then you kinda just have to get the cable into a position where you can see it it but it also has enough slack to put into the cable holder thing without tugging on it, then from there you kinda just end up losing sight of it and hope it works out as you close it up.

As far as I know, it’s not the end of the world if the cable doesn’t make it into the little holder thing.

low token
twilit urchin
twilit urchin
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Also are you meant to feel some sort of latch or whatever when the connector is properly connected? Just wondering in case I'm missing something.

vagrant haven
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I tried guiding the cable with my fingers.

winter nebula
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When I put it back together it looks like my hand is in the Gom Jabbar. Can't see what's going on, and it usually involves some pain, but hoping things work out.

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Or wait, that's the needle. What's the pain box called again?

vagrant haven
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I don’t think the jst connector has any noticeable feedback. I’ve seen some that do in mice. But they aren’t strong even if they do. I just press it with my thumb nails until it won’t go any more. Then once you have the case closed you can plug it in and check before screwing it in, or only partially screw it together to check.

twilit urchin
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Is it fine if the connector is slanted slightly when it's connected? I was thinking that might indicate it's not connected properly.

vagrant haven
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It’s not the end of the world if it’s slight. With how stiff the stress relief was it’s probably going to pull it to one side or another slight even if you do it perfectly.

valid gyro
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How can I cancel this? I didn't want to unsubscribe from this keyboard.

vagrant haven
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But depends how slight you’re referring to. Generally I’d say if it doesn’t look like it’s about to come unplugged and it works it’s probably alright

twilit urchin
vagrant haven
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Yeh sure. I’ll give it a peak

valid gyro
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How can I cancel this? I didn't want to unsubscribe from this keyboard.

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Can anyone answer me? Thank you.

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Can anyone answer me? Thank you.

nova nexus
valid gyro
shell wagon
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best bet is to just contact wooting themselves

limpid wadi
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Still nothing about Batch ?

hallow ember
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should i use both rappy snappy and socd for games ?

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what is the actualy difference between them

pure glacier
winter nebula
hallow ember
hallow ember
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Valve restored order

Thankfully, Valve has now banned both Snap Tap and Snappy Tappy from use in CS2. But sadly, they banned Rappy Snappy as well. Although we think Rappy Snappy raises the skill ceiling, instead of removing it, we don’t make the rules and only time will tell what games will allow it.

We’re still in the early stages of analog keyboards and have yet to discover their full potential. So we’ll continue developing new features that will inevitably be considered cheating in one game, while being the norm in another.

For us, it’s all about giving you the best tools to help you reach new highs, closing the gap between gamer intention and in-game execution.

winter nebula
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Correct, both are forms of SOCD.

hallow ember
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So, both are good in their own ways? but only one can used at a time.

winter nebula
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How would using them both at the same time work?

hallow ember
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Yes, I am trying to find out which one to use.

winter nebula
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Watch the animations on that page until you understand what they do, or read more carefully.

hallow ember
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I have, from my understanding. Rappy snappy works on which one has more actuation point. While SOCD just instantly switch to the other without considering actuation point. is that correct ?

winter nebula
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Can't be correct since they are both SOCD.

hallow ember
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but thats what the animation seems to be demonstrating.

winter nebula
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Snappy tappy tracks whichever was last moved. Rappy snappy tracks whichever is further down.

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Both are SOCD

hallow ember
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"Rappy Snappy

This feature utilizes the analog signal in our keyboards to resolve SOCD. By comparing the press depth of two opposing directional keys, the keyboard is able to prioritize the key that is pressed down the furthest."

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so yes, it seems to account which key is further pressed down with the actuation.

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Do you use any of them ? which one do you prefer ?

winter nebula
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I use rappy snappy when playing OW2. I prefer it.

hallow ember
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any specific reason ?

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I guess it is because it tracks which one is further down.

winter nebula
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It feels more like how you would play normally but you get a little kick in how fast you switch opposite strafing. Snappy tappy requires you changing your behavior, but does result in better performance if you're willing to do that.

spring oar
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Hopefully in future software version you can bind the specific key the light bar sync to.

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because this looks nice

kindred coral
spring oar
mystic rampart
winter nebula
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Meanwhile, me typing:

clever mural
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Sorry if this sounds really silly but I can't seem how to figure out how to change the color of the LED bar.. It is hard stuck to white 😭

winter nebula
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You can configure it under the Light Indicator section

clever mural
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Okay I am here but I am clicking on the color circle but is something supposed to pop up like a color wheel of any sort?

winter nebula
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If you want a solid color, click on Solid on the left to pull it over, then configure it w/ whatever color you want.

clever mural
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Ah my god. Its my adblocker. It blocks the popup of the color picker.. 😔 Thank you so much

woven mulch
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Is the wooting 80he worth it? I read it's a good keyboard and such. But looking further I've read people having a lot of issues with the keyboard aswell have they fixed some of those issues since release?

winter nebula
rustic lynx
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in my opinion its the best keyboard you can buy at the moment

woven mulch
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@rustic lynx @winter nebula okay, yeah I was highly leaning towards pulling the trigger on it as I've seen this keyboard get praised by many. I'm sure they can fix some of the issues that happen anyways via software updates.

spring oar
rustic lynx
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they sure will. there are already beta versions of the firmware that seem to fix the 8k issue for many people and I currently dont know about any other issues

winter nebula
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You should only ever buy a product if you're happy with its feature set at the time of purchase.

tropic drum
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i cant wait for my wooting personally im so excited to play osu on it

thick igloo
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been playing with it on since i bought the keyboard

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im sure socd kicks you from the match but rappy snappy still works fine

winter nebula
thick igloo
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yeah i think i expressed myself wrong

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i have it on 100% of the time while playing cs

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but only snappy tappy kicks me from the game

winter nebula
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Incorrect

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SOCD implementations may get you kicked, and both are SOCD.

coarse crest
umbral timber
# woven mulch Is the wooting 80he worth it? I read it's a good keyboard and such. But looking ...

I was on the fence too for a while and coming from years of using razer keyboards (including the razer huntsman v3 pro), going with Wooting keyboard wise has been one of my favourite decisions. I got the black zinc ansi prebuilt and although pre pricey, the modding potential to make it however you want in addition to the quality, the sound, the insane software, the amazing warranty along with good customer service, it just makes sense long term wise. The only painful thing is the wait, but it is 100% worth it

coarse crest
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Coming from my Rog Azoth which was infinitely more inconsistent and more expensive than stock, 80HE is worth every penny. Also lets you personally customize yours to fit your needs which is tremendous.

coarse crest
umbral timber
coarse crest
elfin zenith
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ok so I updated my keyboard and my remaps broke completely

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my wooting 80% uses the 60% layout now

gilded star
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Hello, I am interested in purchasing the Wooting 80HE module with Lekker Linear45 (L45) v2 switches. I'd like to know: Are the switches pre-lubricated or do I have to lubricate them myself? Also, is the USB C cable included in the package, or do I need to add it separately to my order ?

elfin zenith
elfin zenith
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Can I revert an update somehow

polar storm
low token
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Dark green Susge

gilded star
polar storm
winter nebula
tribal trench
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of topic but what headsets yall use?

elfin zenith
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Its the main profile but the remaps and everything is cooked after updating the keyboard

winter nebula
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Dang, I dunno then. I do wish Wooting would provide a profile export/import for just such an occasion (local, not via their servers)

winter nebula
fickle flint
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Hi

fickle flint
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Do you think the 80he will have 0.01mm like some Chinese keyboards are releasing?

winter nebula
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My guess would be no.

fickle flint
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and will Wooting release a keyboard with these specs?

winter nebula
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My guess would be no.

fickle flint
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Paia

winter nebula
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Excuse me?

fickle flint
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I don't know the translation, it's like 😦

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Do you know how much scanrate the 80he has?

winter nebula
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Up to 8khz

versed valley
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are they not selling the white alloy shell anymore?

polar storm
coarse crest
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I’d expect more news on it sometime Q1 2025

low token
winter nebula
low token
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Turn off internet

winter nebula
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The internet never rests!

low token
short geyser
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No one can say except the staff

winter nebula
low token
winter nebula
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Hurry, what next?

low token
winter nebula
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Aw dang!

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Like I said, it requires a connection to their servers. Don't provide advice you haven't investigated!

low token
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I didnt know it require internet

winter nebula
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I did!

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That's why I said it and all.

low token
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I thought on app it would generate without internet

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@winter nebula you can ask Simon about it

coarse crest
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It’s going to take a while probably to get a good estimate. Not going to get an update for the V2 until Q1 2025 and then there’s going to be a surge of demand for them since they’ve been unobtainable for a bit

celest badge
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Why no mini batches yet

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Pls mini batch

valid comet
abstract fox
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anyone wanna trade their 80he for my fresh 60he

spring oar
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I don't like 60% layout tho

low token
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Only 1k €

worldly pebble
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getting keybaord tommorow

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well today in my time X)

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August feels like it was centuries ago

short geyser
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Damn my thing is changed to pre order now

shut cliff
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Is there any reason estimate date is deleted and said pre-order?

short geyser
# shut cliff

Damn, mine happened right now when I checked it too

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They are gonna probably ship to warehouse soon or that people were confusing the dates as delivery to home

short geyser
#

In a way it’s good as it won’t bother you with the dates and helps you wait as long as it takes

balmy plaza
#

Hey is that normal that they must 2 fkng months to send me a keyboard, even aliexpress is better with order tf is happening ????!

buoyant solstice
snow canyon
buoyant solstice
#

...

balmy plaza
#

Bro

snow canyon
#

obv its improved now

balmy plaza
#

I paid for 6-12 days

snow canyon
#

bruh

#

which keeb?

#

80he?

balmy plaza
#

Wooting 60he+

snow canyon
#

oh

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then idk shouldnt be that long thingk

balmy plaza
#

That’s wild

#

U paid 200$ a keyboard forChristmas and u can have it in the middle of jan 🫵😹

#

When i orderd that was in stock and now it’s partially in stock but don’t put « in stock » if u don’t have it, i paid more for a good delivery time and now i ´ve runnied my Christmas bruh

#

Gn chat

#

Im gonna cry on my araxys melee ☝️🤓

clear narwhal
#

🤣

north egret
#

how do i change the profile buttons

tight violet
#

Im using mixed(raw he on middle, others are jade max) switch in my wooting80he, can it be a problem?

thick igloo
pearl hound
#

Wating for this kb makes January feel so far away even though it's like 3 weeks 🤣

lime wolf
midnight iron
thick igloo
#

yep

#

5 top tier skins

#

rare event

sullen ether
#

Is this a new switch?

solemn crown
solemn crown
sullen ether
#

They worth the extra price tag?

#

80 for 90 switches

lapis galleon
#

that’s super pricy

#

I would say probably not

#

I would just get geon raw he tbh

#

or jade pros

sullen ether
#

But I really like switches with the big stems

midnight iron
sullen ether
#

More rough?

midnight iron
#

so you get more stability at bottom but lose some smoothness with the gaming

sullen ether
#

Hmm gotcha

midnight iron
#

sound wise they're a bit muddy too

#

not bad, but not as clean sounding

sullen ether
#

I like the sound but is the roughness mean they will have friction and wear over time?

midnight iron
#

no it means when you push it down you will feel the box stem

#

<>? here is the jade gaming switches, bnm is the ttc magneto pom

sullen ether
#

Bnm?

midnight iron
#

the keys

sullen ether
#

Oh 😭

midnight iron
#

if you want them though i'd never buy from amazon

sullen ether
#

Why not?

midnight iron
#

unless aliexpress just doesn't deliver to you

sullen ether
#

Price of another reason?

midnight iron
#

because you're paying more on amazon because there's no competition and low amount of sellers

sullen ether
#

Gotcha yeah I'm asking my mom to get me them as a Christmas + birthday gift so Amazon is fine tbh only like 15$ more total so no biggie

midnight iron
#

honestly if you want box stems the magneto feel better than the gamings to me

#

but gaming aren't bad as a cheaper alternative if you don't care about min/maxing the box stem

coarse crest
#

those jade gaming switches are not it 😭

midnight iron
#

and i assume ttc magneto isn't available on amazon either

midnight iron
coarse crest
#

jade gaming sounded like the GMMK 3 Pro in that clip at least

lime falcon
#

get muted ttcs

coarse crest
#

as much as I dont like the TTCs sharpness they sound hella better

midnight iron
#

yeah

#

they're high pitched and clacky but at least the sound they give is clean

lime falcon
#

muted lekkers also go hard with a foam inside

midnight iron
#

ttc magneto pom been the only box stem that i don't feel like i'm using box stem with so far

sullen ether
#

From metric switch store, but shipping is Dec 26

midnight iron
#

eh i wouldn't buy that, i assume it's regular magneto for $95 which is a rip off

coarse crest
#

i honestly cant wait for the CF plate to arrive, going to get rid of the last thockiness of my board SwitchyPog

lime falcon
#

its over for you varedis

#

youre in endless loop

coarse crest
midnight iron
#

it's just a bit of a shame you're limited to amazon

#

because it's a lot more than $15 difference lol

coarse crest
#

its been over for a while now, im just rebounding

midnight iron
sullen ether
#

What about the koms?

midnight iron
lime falcon
#

are you only considering box stems?

midnight iron
#

magneto = kom

sullen ether
#

What's the cheapest spot to find koms rgb

midnight iron
#

aliexpress

sullen ether
#

I just hate how they look so much

#

Ugly ass 😭

midnight iron
#

or less actually with coupon added

sullen ether
#

And AliExpress is really trustworthy?

midnight iron
#

as long as you buy from decent sellers yeah

#

like the one i linked are known shops with a lot of sales and good feedback

sullen ether
#

Also maybe I'm just biased from some videos but are box springs better or no?

#

Box stem*

lime falcon
#

sound no

#

stem wobble yes

sullen ether
#

So is the only downside worse sound?

midnight iron
#

yeah basically box stems are more stable but not everyone likes the higher pitched sound of the ttc magnetos

#

the magnetos also don't come as well factory lubed and benefit a lot from hand lubing (if you care about smoothness)

sullen ether
#

What about jade gaming?

midnight iron
#

jade gaming are what i'd consider a budget magneto

sullen ether
#

And is there a switch other than the magnetos that have the 21mm spring?

midnight iron
#

no

sullen ether
#

Ahh

midnight iron
#

but spring barely matters honestly

sullen ether
#

Hmm

midnight iron
#

that's just marketing

sullen ether
#

Ok that's definitely good to know

#

I like the look and sound of the jades gaming so do I think that would be a good enough choice for my first keyboard?

#

First custom build*

midnight iron
#

i think you're paying for the worse switch but if you want to buy them just for look you can

#

the gateron jade gaming are not as tight as the magneto

sullen ether
#

Are there other switches that compare to the magneto? Or are they just that much better?

undone locust
#

j got the wooting80he and its amazing..

fading timber
#

still waiting on the white wooting 80he 💀

midnight iron
#

magneto are straight up better if you're talking purely stability

undone locust
#

def worth the 3mo wait

midnight iron
#

particularly the pom/rgb, with pom being the smoothest and rgb being nice if you want brighter rgb

sullen ether
undone locust
#

hang in there 🫡

winter nebula
#

I do like the Magnetos, but I am a bit concerned that my wife might leave me if I use them late at night

midnight iron
#

yeah they do be loud lol

sullen ether
#

Hmm

#

What would you consider second to ttc?

coarse crest
winter nebula
#

Loving the feedback on them, though.

coarse crest
#

more foam and a good lube job prob

winter nebula
#

I tossed some foam into the spacebar which chilled that one out, not sure what I can really do about the other ~80

lime falcon
#

😂

midnight iron
#

all the foam doesn't help, mine are handlubed and in plastic with foam and it's still like i'm throwing rocks at my wall all day

#

but i accept it because at least the sound is clean and they're absurdly stable

winter nebula
#

I suppose lubing would chill it out a little, but to some extent the sharp feedback is what I like about them, so I'm a bit hesitant to make major changes.

sullen ether
coarse crest
midnight iron
winter nebula
#

Yeah that is what they sound like

#

I feel like the easiest rec overall right now is Jade Pros

midnight iron
#

if you want just magneto pom sound in one test lol

winter nebula
#

Unless you really hate the sound of 'em. They feel great and I like the sound, many do as well.

sullen ether
#

I mean I just have a gmmk 2 keyboard and I don't hear any difference but I never have thought my keyboard is that loud so your worrying me , 😭

midnight iron
#

oops wrong video

#

that was the stab lol

#

there we go

winter nebula
#

I guess I have the RGB Magnetos (clear window, purple bottom housing), but I can't hear much difference from your POM sound tests. Maybe the POMs are a hair less sharp?

midnight iron
#

the deadzone advantage is interesting with the box stems though, now that simon confirmed our guess that more stable bottom out switches = lower deadzone

#

so you really do drop the wooting deadzone a lot with box stem switches

winter nebula
#

Huh, thanks for sharing the post, hadn't heard. Not that it much affects me, I don't think my rapid trigger liftoff is terribly aggressive, but it's interesting nonetheless.

#

(unless there's something I'm missing)

midnight iron
#

yeah it's interesting, since it confirms the tests some people did where they put ttc magneto rgb/pom into their keyboard and the deadzone dropped from 0.15 to 0.03

#

we weren't fully sure why that happened before this

winter nebula
#

I don't have a second switch in ATM but yeah using the visual tester I just got 0.02 at the bottom

#

Neat!

#

Hey for science maybe I should try for myself, what else do I have to do w/ the next couple minutes

#

Hm, I can get the same on a Jade Pro, side by side. Hammered on both after connecting to calibrate, and achieved around 0.02-3 on each

lime falcon
#

where are you testing that

#

analog monitor?

midnight iron
#

yeah how are you seeing this? wooting doesn't have a bottom out flux tester yet

winter nebula
#

Analog monitor, yeah.

lime falcon
#

screenshot?

winter nebula
#

Hard to pull off 🙂

lime falcon
#

not sure what 0.02 are you talking exactly

#

I dont see those numbers

midnight iron
#

wait i'm confused, analog monitor doesn't show off the deadzone difference at all

winter nebula
#

Maybe I'm not understanding what you're talking about. By deadzone do you mean a gap between bottom out and the next valid reading?

lime falcon
sullen ether
#

Mechanically what's the difference between geon raw and jade pros?

midnight iron
winter nebula
#

Gotcha, just ignore what I said then 🙂
Was trusting the Wootility visual feeback numbers, and analog monitor looked like it lined up

lime falcon
#

ah 😂

sullen ether
#

So jade pros are my obvious choice than? Cheaper, better, and I normally use a teal/green RGB so I'm set.

lime falcon
#

yea wootility visual feedback shows even 0.01, thats different from what sno is talking about

midnight iron
#

but they are technically better if you care about magnet tolerance

sullen ether
#

I meant cheaper than ttc

#

And cheaper on amazon*

#

Raws aren't on amazon

lime falcon
#

yea get jade pros if you dont care about rgb

#

they feel and sound great

sullen ether
#

Bet

#

Better than lekker?

midnight iron
#

if you care about sound then jade pros are definitely a good middle ground between being more stable than stock switches but sounding better/not as loud as the ttc magnetos

lime falcon
#

Yes

sullen ether
#

Thank you for the help guys :)

pearl hound
winter nebula
#

No, they're just green and tint the light coming through

#

Honestly it's not a deal breaker, since it's all tinted you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference (IMO) without something next to it to compare against.

lime falcon
#

some colors are darker for example red, purple, pink

pearl hound
#

Doesn't matter when I use the stereotypical rainbow gamer rgb anyway lol

lime falcon
#

yea for me it doesnt matter, i just use cyan rgb which works well with jade pros

winter nebula
#

Yeah I mean rainbow vomit will still look like rainbow vom

#

😉

midnight iron
#

i only use rgb on my lightbar personally so i've never been bothered about any rgb tinting

lime falcon
#

lekker pro switches tho

#

👀havo

pearl hound
#

Im to excited to put this together im essiently stalking my 80he module rn lol. Hope the warehouse can lock in so I can get it by mid Jan looking at all these insane builds makes me even more excited to build it so I'm literally trying to learn everything possible 😅 thank you all

lime falcon
#

also heard geon is releasing fully closed bottom switches

winter nebula
#

That'd be interesting, though I got a bit turned off by the Geons cause of their build quality and how much of a PITA they are to remove

#

Granted if you put them in and never remove them, that's not an issue

lime falcon
#

yea that was torture for me, some rgb windows are still somewhere in my room, just hope my dog wont eat them lmao

midnight iron
#

he said they're a cheaper, not as tight tolerance switch though so i don't think they'll be all that interesting

winter nebula
#

Fortunately I managed to not lose any, but only by the luck of the gods

midnight iron
#

more meant to be a really budget option for his venom board i think

winter nebula
#

Ah, oh well

winter nebula
#

I think the only thing I really want to keep my ear out for now is a TTC that's closer in volume to the Jade Pros. Not even all the way there, just not quite so loud as to shake the frame of the house.

midnight iron
#

i've given up and now embrace the opposite

#

i want ttc magneto pom that are so loud that my 1st floor neighbour can hear me using them from 4 stories below me

lime falcon
#

lol

midnight iron
#

i will establish dominance over my apartment block

lime falcon
#

you should hear my spacebar

#

my neighbour probably hates me, it sounds like a gunshot

#

even foam doesnt help it

winter nebula
#

Some alpha nerds ove here

#

Wait I remember a fantastic little writeup, lemme see if I can find it

#

By Thursday, you have demonstrated that you are the strongest, smartest, and most passionate engineer on your team. When you get to your desk, rip your standard-issue keyboard out and slide it off your desk. Plug in your own mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX Green or Blue switches. Your typing will now be a constant audible reminder to your teammates that you aren’t fucking around.

#

Anyway, it definitely is fun to go ham on the magnetos, no regrets.

gaunt grove
#

this normal? just yesterday it said december 17th to jan 1st, hk-jingyu btw

#

possibly due to reallocation to mini-batches?

fallen pebble
#

is this rust?

near bear
#

Same batch also

gaunt grove
#

hm, looks like reallocation

wooden roost
#

i want to be reallocated to "shipped to you"

#

🤓

valid comet
fallen pebble
valid comet
#

can I ask for a macroshot?

lime falcon
valid comet
lime falcon
#

yea

#

never noticed that, weird

fallen pebble
#

here's a slightly more true to life photo

lime falcon
#

what about others?

fallen pebble
#

I'll have to check all of them

valid comet
#

huh, that does look strange

granite anvil
#

Does anyone here knows how to take apart the wootings 80he stabilizer?

#

Im having trouble taking the metal bar from the plastic and i dont want to break it

pale flame
#

I was on batch eu-walvis-1, but this morning there is nothing? 😢

fallen pebble
limpid wadi
#

Same

fallen pebble
gaunt grove
steep bobcat
#

is there a way to get the volume change function on the light indicator to work

granite anvil
#

Even after lubbing i still cant fix the rattling on the right side

#

Ima have to buy different stabilizers

celest badge
valid comet
distant monolith
#

Another week no white zinc V2 video update :((((

#

Next week for sure SwitchyCool

valid comet
#

it's not really weekly updates anymore it seems

#

at least in video format

#

true very sasdge

onyx dew
#

Just got my 80HE minutes ago, was wondering if these stains on the back of the Raw Zinc Alloy case are permanent. What caused this and how can I remove them?

midnight iron
#

injection flow marks from the process since it's raw and not anodized etc

grizzled leaf
#

Hello guys, this morning my order changed status to

#

do i have to press this button for confirm the delivery?

long yarrow
#

Yes

#

U need to confirm ur adress

grizzled leaf
#

and last question, i have on address 2, my appartment number and in addres 1 the info of my street, is that right? i'm spanish so i always put in on 1 line and it's a bit weird for me to split the address 😄

long yarrow
#

I cant tell u that sadly

buoyant solstice
grizzled leaf
#

forget it, i'm a nerd, i tried to edit it , and the web says on address 2 put your appartment number so its fine splitting

distant monolith
#

I’m really curious for the V2 finish results tbh

#

But if there is no update yet, maybe they had troubles with their samples and again needs to be redone or whatever… production is such a complicated endless trouble after trouble

rigid kelp
#

After a few weeks, on different areas, the paint has started to peel off from the case. When I took photos of this problem, I have noticed that all the keycaps got washed out on their bottom part. The maintenance that I performed has been done by only using a vacuum and a paint brush. Besides, I don’t eat or drink in front of my keyboard. Therefore, I’m very disappointed by the state of the case after 2 months.

short geyser
#

I just had to confirm my address

distant monolith
short geyser
rigid kelp
short geyser
#

It looks like it’s in a bath

rigid kelp
short geyser
#

I live in uk too

grizzled leaf
#

which case do u have and which keyboard? 60 or 80?

short geyser
#

It’s cold, because of the humidity, something is happening to the paint

midnight iron
rigid kelp
nova nexus
#

This is an adhesion defect at the factory, I've seen now 5 cases for which the first four have been traced backed to a single production run, dunno about this one

rigid kelp
#

For the RGB, the global brightness parameter is set to 70%.

nova nexus
#

Has nothing to do with the end-customer's situation

rigid kelp
nova nexus
#

No, support will handle it

#

Do provide the serial number to them though

strong mango
#

How many time does the shipment to warehouse take ? My estimed delivery date was a bit delayed. Sadge

rigid kelp
short geyser
#

It should come soon for you as well

strong mango
short geyser
#

Well, it’s for all the people in eu walvis batch

#

What did you order?

strong mango
#

Only the 80he keyboard + keycaps

short geyser
#

Zinc or ghost

strong mango
#

Black

#

XD

short geyser
#

I think they are shipping modules and ghost prebuilt alone

#

It’s a small wait but you are gonna get it dw

broken spruce
#

Hey guys, ive had some issues with like either input delay or a key being held even when not pressed. I feel like this issue is more because of my windows system/pc since its quite old. However I was wondering if it was related to the wooting keyboard so if any of you had this issue let me know if not I can probably assume it isnt the reason

short geyser
#

Do you have the 8k polling on?

onyx plank
#

has anyone tried the wrist rest and do you guys think its worth it?

broken spruce
short geyser
buoyant solstice
glad kiln
#

Finally my batch arrived and I was able to confirm my address 🥹 Now only a solo white zinc v2 release for a perfect product. Frost case will be nice until then 👍

broken spruce
short geyser
#

Yep

#

Check out the pinned thread in support

broken spruce
#

Ah good to know, is it ruled out to be a hardware issue but a software/firmware issue or not?

short geyser
#

Say your troubles and everyone will pitch in for solutions

short geyser
buoyant solstice
lime falcon
broken spruce
broken spruce
#

im buying new pc in jan luckily

lime falcon
buoyant solstice
broken spruce
#

I believe it is fine

lime falcon
#

Yea, thats latest

broken spruce
#

I think it is due to my pc tbh, but I just wanted to make sure it was not a hardware issue

#

New year new pc lets hope issue is gone then 😉

gilded junco
bronze wedge
#

guys from your experience how long does the order stay in the "Ready to Pack" status ?

buoyant solstice
#

Days to a week. Ultimately depends on how busy the fulfilment center is (very busy right now, christmas and allat)

bronze wedge
#

ahh yes, i was thinking it would be busy due to christmas pepe_cry

#

thank you Chris

buoyant solstice
#

I fully regret changing my name to a holiday one. It's MANSEN 😄

tight cypress
tight cypress
#

Christopher nod

bronze wedge
#

pepe_uhm my bad

buoyant solstice
balmy plaza
pine heart
#

how are the Hall effect sensor switches?

limpid wadi
#

God Thanks !

bronze wedge
#

same boat as you, hopefully it gets packed soon

viral cliff
#

Is it normal that it takes some time before, i can confirm my adress?

buoyant solstice
short geyser
bronze wedge
#

saaamee, soon boys pepesalute

#

woops

brazen rock
#

?? i shouldn't have updated i guess

sullen ether
#

How are Jade mini e's vs jade pros

dense berry
#

lets go babyyy plotge

#

im just glad it'll be out of china before they shut down for like a month lol

#

I've gone and jinx'd it now haven't I

sullen ether
#

Wdym?

#

Shut down for a month?

bronze wedge
#

aren't the EU warehouses in netherlands tho?

sullen ether
#

Do I have to worry?

buoyant solstice
bronze wedge
#

ayyy

buoyant solstice
#

But batches are sent out weeks before that begins, or much later.

sullen ether
#

Will I have to worry idk when Chinese new years is

atomic brook
#

no

dense berry
atomic brook
#

and feburary

sullen ether
#

9-23 of January

dense berry
#

na your good, it's being shipped

sullen ether
#

🥱

#

Thank you

buoyant solstice
short geyser
#

Do the warehouses ship the 80he on weekends too?

buoyant solstice
#

Not typically - But given it's holiday craze, they might choose to work more shifts.

short geyser
peak heron
#

It's coming

near bear
#

anyone got updates for hk-jingyu

#

my delivery date disappeared

buoyant solstice
#

It should return soon enough. The logistics folks are tweaking batches.

edgy canopy
#

Regarding "shipment to our warehouse" stage, is it applicable to the entire order (all products), or can it be partial order (some product will be shipped to the warehouse later on).
As I have 2 products in my order

bronze wedge
#

mine just went into Pick & Pack SwitchyPog

buoyant solstice
silent siren
#

Letsgo

edgy canopy
buoyant solstice
#

It shows the last arriving item (if any), meaning anything arriving sooner won't be shown (because by the time the last arriving item is there, the others will have already been received and reserved)

limpid wadi
#

Pick and pack yes !!

shut cliff
mild nest
#

Suiiiii

pale geyser
#

Address confirmation for EU-Walvis-1! Yay! It's ready to ship!

#

It was on "Mass Production" yesterday... so stages were not accurate I guess.

rich pasture
limpid wadi
#

Shipped!blobaww

pale geyser
thin rover
fresh trail
thin rover
small shore
#

guys is it possible to pay with paypal?

low token
thin rover
#

any idea if 80he's with keycaps iso frensh are ready for delivery?

sullen ether
#

Are there any switches that would work with ceramic keycaps by cerakey out of the box, or would all switches have to be modified for higher spring rates

pale geyser
#

Nice

limpid wadi
thin rover
# limpid wadi

does your order contain frensh keycaps by any chance ?

weak igloo
#

my wooting keeps disconnecting out of nowhere, any way to fix it?

buoyant solstice
#

While playing, or do you mean while Wootility is open?

weak igloo
#

while playing

#

it's been like this for quite sometime. Someone here mentioned turning the polling down to 1000 but it's still the same

buoyant solstice
#

There's a big thread over in #1019755933959733258 that might be of help to you. Make sure you're on the latest beta4 build.

buoyant solstice
#

V5 of course?

weak igloo
#

ah you mean the firmware, yep i just updated it actually

buoyant solstice
#

Yep

weak igloo
#

I'll test it out for a few more hours to see if it persists

weak igloo
red patrol
#

hi! I cancelled my order but changed my mind within the 90 mins timeframe, pressed release hold already but there’s no email to confirm if my cancellation was reversed or not. is this normal or are you supposed to receive an email about reversing cancellation?

short geyser
#

Contact support with your reason

#

They may be able to help you

calm marsh
#

guys, is it normal that it said on the way since 11/12 and nothing update after that

#

and Scheduled Delivery Date is "Today 18:00 BKK time" but now it changed to "Today By end of day"

atomic brook
#

yes

lavish shoal
#

so, i have read i should contact support to change my order instead cancelling?

lavish shoal
#

after fewtimes of cancelling wooting will give me fee

#

but not if i contact support and tell them what i wanna change

buoyant solstice
#

Let's try that one more time - WHAT do you need to change? 😛

lavish shoal
#

oh

#

i wanna go from default 80 pack to frost.

buoyant solstice
#

Did you order an 80HE preassembled or a module?

lavish shoal
#

preass.

buoyant solstice
#

Then your only option is cancelling.

#

Frost only comes as a standalone case, not preassembled.

lavish shoal
#

uhm... how does that explain why you cant change it?

candid spoke
#

Email

#

Them

atomic brook
buoyant solstice
atomic brook
#

but ur changing preassembled to module

desert parcel
#

Finally!!!!

calm marsh
lavish shoal
buoyant solstice
atomic brook
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delivery companies pull this a lot

calm marsh
wooden roost
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I SEE THEY MOVED US TO SAY THE PREODUCTS ARE READY ON THE WHAREHOUSE

calm marsh
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i cant waittttttt

wooden roost
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im happy happy

nimble shore
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So I changed delivery option am I meant to get an email off DHL that I can pick it up when they put in the locker etc.?

buoyant solstice
nimble shore
buoyant solstice
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Then DHL are the onest to ask about that.

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But yes - They typically send an email and a text a few seconds after the postman scans it into the locker.

nimble shore
buoyant solstice
nimble shore
buoyant solstice
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I sure didn't. I never use DHL.

bright jewel
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???

buoyant solstice
nimble shore
buoyant solstice
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I use GLS here in Denmark. Would never, ever use DHL if I could avoid it.

mild agate
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Do I need to keep Wooting web driver turned on?

nimble shore
atomic brook
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you can make ur profiles

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save them to the keyboard

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and close it

sullen ether
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Are there 55g magnetic switches

atomic brook
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iirc black knights

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ask here, i dont remember if its true

sullen ether
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45 actuation 55 bottom out

buoyant solstice
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So 55g 😄

sullen ether
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The cerkeys said 45g for most keys and 55g for the space bar

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So would geon raw 45g starting force and 60g bottom out work well?

sullen ether
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So u do not go by bottoming out force you go by starting actuation

atomic brook
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they might be talking about actuation actually

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ya nvm just checked

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geon 60s would likely work

past thunder
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Does any1 have a gap like this in their wooting ?

buoyant solstice
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Looks like your clips aren't in fully.

past thunder
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They are tho

buoyant solstice
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Then they have snapped off.

past thunder
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It’s brand new

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Possible defective unit?

runic oyster
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Noooo it says 25-~10 a couple hours ago 😭😭

buoyant solstice
atomic brook
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not down

agile nebula
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my keyboard supposedly arrive 12/13 japan time but it didn't. and now the there is no delivery date anymore. Is it ok?

past thunder
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I am not an expert on the details of the keyboard but I tried multiple times reseating the top frame in the fitting way but still had the same issue

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Following closely the YouTube video

atomic brook
past thunder
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I used the official YouTube video so I doubt there would be a problem there

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On top of that the case ‘snapped’ so I would have to imagine I did everything correctly

calm marsh
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someone said it's normal

sullen ether
atomic brook
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should have checked their website

sullen ether
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Awesome thank you bro, will they 60g be alright with pbt for now or would that be weird

atomic brook
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so its standard

sullen ether
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Awesome thank you

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Bet ty

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How crazy would this be

frosty sage
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Does anyone else experience an issue with the Wooting 80HE where sometimes, in-game, releasing a key doesn’t stop the input? For example, if you press “W” to move forward and then release it, the character continues moving as if the key is still being pressed. This only happens with my 80HE and not 60HE.

past thunder
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Will plugging the wooting in a usb a instead of usb c port will cause any sort of delay?

smoky musk
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How do you take off the keycap with the key cap puller, am I going crazy or is it not fitting

prisma rivet
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Anyone have the xvx topographic shine through keycap set and can give some insight on how they feel?

true cosmos
jagged dune
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Werll fuck it. V2 E Coating gonna be great but Calder said, that it will be faster than 2 to 3 month. Now I am getting impatient again. Good job Wooting on the testing and E-Coating. 😅

solar kestrel
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march april gang CatBla

jagged dune
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Don't announce that things will be available early. Even if they are loose dates or no date at all. Let us wait and don't tempt us with hope, that the waiting will take less as we mentally prepared ourselves for, if it isn't the case (maybe) 🤣 I Love you guys.