🌟│wooting80he

[red heart]

60he more moddable tho atm

But 80 better out of the box

[green wadi]

i got mine and literally havent even modded it

Lubing does sound better but it just takes so much time man

I wish it came prelubed

[red heart]

Just get raw he switches

🙂

[exotic cove]

various things

[green wadi]

raw he switches?

[red heart]

Currently seen as the best hall effect switches on the market

I just got mine in the mail and god damn

[green wadi]

how much are they

Are they lubed and everything like different sound?

[ornate pike]

Form factor
8k polling rate (Quite a minor diff only)
Amazing RGB with the frost and ghost cases

[green wadi]

Oh

With no wrist pad?

[red heart]

Lubed from factory and everything

[green wadi]

What are those keys exactly called

[ornate pike]

60he has the advantage of smaller form factor for games like Valorant for more mouse space

Customisable Case

And optimised software

[red heart]

Wooting has a sound test with them on their yt channel if you want to check them out

[green wadi]

I dont see on their site

[red heart]

Geon raw he, they are not on wooting store yet

[green wadi]

aha

[red heart]

But you can buy them from geon directly or from other vendors

[green wadi]

alrighty let me do some research

[green wadi]

They come in different forces?

So im guessing the 40 are the softest most activatey?

[red heart]

Yep

I went for 50

If your 60he is stock then the 60 ones will be most familiar to you

[paper moon]

This is quite genius I feel like 3d printed mesh could solve a lot of the extra moving parts issues and costs. Really cool.

[red heart]

That norbauer article and talk are so interesting

[green wadi]

Aha Yea it is stock

[red heart]

Then i‘d say go 50 or 60

[green wadi]

its 0.48 per 1 pcs?

As in key?

Oh damn it is

Man so much work wish i could just buy prelubed

Im not so good with modding either

[paper moon]

It's actually more cause shipping/.

[green wadi]

oh

[paper moon]

Total shipped is around 60-80 dollars depending.

[green wadi]

Ok yeah im good

Does the 80he not come with a wrist pad tho

Cos that sucks ngl

[paper moon]

I mean does your ice cream come with sprinkles?

[green wadi]

i mean with the 60he it came with one

It had the option

But i dont see it with the 80

[paper moon]

You can order one

but it's extra

[spring oar]

Geon Raw comes prelubed and geon raw should be available in multiple region

*vendor I mean

[green wadi]

I dont see the option

I just see layout and language and keycaps section

[green wadi]

Yeah i got u

[green wadi]

Ah i see it

[ornate pike]

modding in general is more of an enthusiast thing

not saying the average cant do it

but the people who are typically willing to are enthusiasts

[green wadi]

yep i get that

I saw the sound difference in lubing but then i searched a vid on how to lube and it was effort fr

[humble cargo]

it really is

I got the tools for it but am not sure if I'll ever get around to using it

[verbal solar]

It took me 3 hours to install a cpu tower cooler

😭

[humble cargo]

did you have to mill the screws by hand

[ornate pike]

i spent 2 hrs trying to screw my cpu cooler in

[spring oar]

How, just read the manual

[ornate pike]

it wasnt a no read manual problem

it was a unbalanced screw pressure problem

[spring oar]

Oh

[ornate pike]

i needed to somehow balance both screws in properly

[verbal solar]

yes

[verbal solar]

REAL. THAT WAS THE HARD PART.

[ornate pike]

good thing my cpu went from 80 degrees to 63 max

Celcius, not FREEDOM FIGHTING UNITS

[humble cargo]

cross fastening the screws is mounting 101

[verbal solar]

W

[verbal solar]

🇺🇸

[verbal solar]

Easier said than done

[hollow sigil]

Anyone from the team knows when the White Zinc Alloy will be back ?

[coarse crest]

the new White Zinc V2 needs to be finalized and finish production first. You'll probably be waiting til Q1 2025 at the earliest since it needs to take a couple months to redo.

[hollow sigil]

Thanks man, I have the first white batch but gonna give it to my brother and I will keep waiting

[wispy trellis]

dmn i thought i removed my rattle with crytox but those staps are crytox greedy needet to "refill" 2 times till i was happy

only ending up beeing satisfyed with my spacebar so that i noticed rattle in my enter wich bevore i did not notice

#+

sorry should have pulled zthe cable

[worn compass]

Wooting

Batch 2 80he’s still in transit 💔

I assume the customs process has already begun

Ship leaves the dock monday

[spring oar]

Hmm, I wonder how EU batch is doing

[tight cliff]

Well mine from Batch 1 is lost somewhere so hope that it won't happen to you

[spring oar]

Since they say it can be 'a couple days' early, Monday could be the day it open. Clsoe to coping. Still hoping it opens on oct 31rst though

[worn compass]

Dw about it I’m sure wootings estimate is accurate

If not the 31st at most a day or 2 later

Im just hoping na batch gets done with customs by the end of next week

[tropic void]

I'm surprised you stuck with it. That plastic puller is garbage. The first time i had to pull all the switches, I did this and it went perfectly and extremely fast

[red heart]

i just didnt want to bother taking the whole thing apart

[worn compass]

Like bubble wrap

[tropic void]

Yup

[cinder elm]

That’s the estimate but yea

I feel like mid November is getting more accurate

[tropic void]

Several of my geons sounded pingy because they weren't lubed enough so i hand lubed them all

[tidal prawn]

Got to see if I'll just check them through right away, as well. I am getting geon raw's.

[restive bay]

Not happening that fast

I told you that the updates were going to be by the end of next week

Wednesday-Friday

[worn compass]

Dude the ship is literally scheduled to leave monday how are you gonna tell me otherwise 😭

Unless they’re straight up wrong

[restive bay]

Its what its, wooting schedule doesnt depend on the ship

[worn compass]

Im not talking about wootings schedule im talking about the vessel tracker 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

And the cargo would still need to go through customs

[restive bay]

They are not going to work saturday/sunday because of the ship cargo

[worn compass]

Im just saying by the time the ship leaves the cargo will be off the ship aswell

[austere finch]

Could I get a list of issues with the 80he

[restive bay]

Thats exactly what will happen

[worn compass]

Then why have this pointless ass argument 😭

Wasted my time

[worn compass]

I dont think theres anything wrong with it in the inside mostly just qc issues with cases ig
Anyways I’d say most of the QC and software issues will be fixed by the end of the year

[restive bay]

Well, stimation dates are just that an stimation

Things may vary depending on multiple factors, logistics is a pain

[austere finch]

I mean like software issues

[rustic sparrow]

do yall think each copy of 80he has a diff sounding space bar like some sounds bad and some sound good?

[worn compass]

From what I heard of yes, that seems to be whats going on

Some sound better than others

[rustic sparrow]

damn if mines not good ima have to get krytox and lube syringe and fix it

[worn compass]

Same

[worn compass]

Have not really been paying attention to much of the software issues but they should be fixed, the 80he is still relatively new and there’s for sure some things they need to work on with the drivers. Keep in mind they’re also working on wootility V5 aswell

I didnt hear much software issues

[austere finch]

Sorry I meant firmware

Like the led thing

[worn compass]

😵‍💫

[austere finch]

I keep getting these mixed up

Sorry

[worn compass]

Honestly same thing kinda applies, havent heard much firmware issues aside from the led bar messing with latency but wooting should address this. I have no clue how much firmware issues there are in total tbh

[austere finch]

Ok

Thanks for the help

[worn compass]

I tried haha
No problem

[wanton frost]

who alr needed to verify their adress?

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/heretic-halo2-arbiter-grunts-gif-19621018

https://tenor.com/view/exaggerated-captain-america-gif-12589473

super dirty when he pops the switches out ^

[tidal prawn]

I just don't want to do that as it basically forces the small clips, that are supposed to hold onto the plate, out by force. At worst they break. After that, they only stay attached properly because the poly plate is rather tight, but if you ever switch plate, they will just keep popping out.

[tropic void]

It didn't do shit to the clips. Nice story though

[cloud dove]

What’s up with na batch boast been arrived for 3 days and no updates about it

😭😭😭😭

[steep badger]

It's almost November and I haven't seen my tracker get updated at all...

[versed quiver]

im pretty sure its only been a week since the tracker updated

[torpid smelt]

Just wanted to purchase an 80he and is it normal that you cant pay with paypal?

[lime aspen]

Yep

[humble cargo]

yes

[torpid smelt]

alright, sad but klarna it is

[tropic void]

i dont blame them, paypal have scummy policies. ppl could buy it and then do chargebaccks

[torpid smelt]

Didnt know about that

Well I purchased the 80he Module now, then i finally have my 2nd wooting. Good for traveling

[frozen cloak]

Orderng now translates to a mid December delivery, approx?

[hearty mango]

My wooting still says it will be here nov 02-16 which is in the past and has said this for 13 days

[brisk ruin]

last time I checked november starts next week

[hearty mango]

My computer was a month off lmao

Thanks

[lime aspen]

have lost multiple paypal accounts/money from this

[digital maple]

paypal is a horrible platform. i have lost atleast 10.000€ because of them

my paypal accounts always get banned the second i receive a payment over 10€

[tropic void]

yeah they'r'e a scummy company. I closed my acct with them after 15 yrs

venmo is also paypal i believe

[digital maple]

aint even available in germany lol

[finite folio]

Wooting gods I beg you please let my keyboard arrive within estimated timeframe, I don’t know how much longer I can wait……

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-collapse-defeated-gif-14214156

[urban meadow]

Waiting only makes the Wooting even better, although some info on how the shipment process is going would be nice

[tropic void]

tbh i totally forgot about the 80he after i ordered it and then only remembered when they announced na champion was shipping lol

[urban meadow]

I wonder though, when are they going to make another update for NA shipments

[wicked rune]

https://tenor.com/view/rabies-rabid-foaming-at-the-mouth-sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-10883141

[verbal solar]

It's ok. I got scammed a 1400 dollar gpu off ebay

[fading nacelle]

when v2

[snow canyon]

anyone bought geon raw switches from aliexpress?

not able to add more switches because of this welcome deal that they have

[cloud dove]

Can any staff give an update for the na brige batch before we go crazy

[low token]

Mate where are you from

[cloud dove]

Usa 🇺🇸

[low token]

You have to wait

[cloud dove]

?

[low token]

Propably next week you will get update

They work monday to friday

[worn compass]

https://tenor.com/view/beetle-unboxing-spider-unboxing-unboxing-beetle-gif-23449000

[safe wagon]

https://modedesigns.com/products/sonnet-weight
Loking here, which would provide me with the best thock sound or does this not matter?

[midnight iron]

Thockier switches and full foam config

But probably want to ask this in modding channel and not 80he channel

[foggy crater]

too late insanity has already hit

[worldly stream]

i just talked to my friend

and he said he would be able to make my razer keyboard custom XD

ofc i gotta pay a fee but he said he has to solder in new switches or use they things i forgot name of

to make it a hotswap and would be a new lease on life

but im only deciding on the mod if its possible

[visual mango]

how long do you guys think white zync alloy v2 will take?

[granite anvil]

Long

[valid comet]

i just bought them from Geon

[midnight iron]

ah here it is

nuphy 75he field tested below stated specs

it's actually slower than even 60he

[atomic brook]

but it says 8k

thats law

[midnight iron]

surprise surprise, 'feel testing' keyboard reviewers just read specs off a site and have no idea if it's correct or not then recommend boards based on how they 'feel' for performance

and usually they're pumping through so many keyboards that they're not even really testing them for long to see any actual performance for consistency etc before they move to the next random board they got sent out

"oh it feels great. I didn't notice any performance differences in my testing. Thumbs up great alternative!" - I've just summarized 9/10 keyboard reviews on youtube

turns out if you don't actually do any objective testing then almost all keyboards receive a positive review in the feel test

[valid comet]

exactly

[valid comet]

8k polling or scanning dont mean anything if the board itself iant optimized

[atomic brook]

Lies

[valid comet]

im not gonna say it is poorly optimized

but it has headroom

[atomic brook]

my favourite reviewers says its 8k

[valid comet]

hold on

idk if I can link a twitter thread

I'm under the assumption that the Field75 has 8k polling but 2k scan

also given nuphy is pumping out many products and having less support per product as oppose to wooting where its few models and lots of support for each model

and again my 80HE in the beginning feels pretty damn slow and inconsistent but it gets a lot more stable within like 20 minutes of use

[valid comet]

again this must be just optimization that needs to be done to the kb

[midnight iron]

could just be your calibration too if you're not using lekkers

[valid comet]

Raw HE

[midnight iron]

yeah then when you first turn on computer it's going to be reading the distance wrong

[valid comet]

iirc they will have a preset for those in the release for v5

[midnight iron]

yeah it's on the plans, just they been busy with fixing the stability stuff first i assume

[valid comet]

yeah even that has been a bit wonky on my stock v2s when I got it

more so the stability of the performance

60HE+ seems to be fine on the other hand

probably because it's a more mature product in terms of optimization atm

nevertheless its always interesting to see what they do with this stuff

I will also let my friends know to keep their firmware up to date for improbements in stability and performance as one of my IRLs will get his in january 2025 (probably)

hes upgrading from his blackwidow v2 tournament edition which is on life support 💀

[terse summit]

So wait the 80he is cooked⁉️

[midnight iron]

? no

[terse summit]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-thinking-scratch-monkey-gif-15272665

[midnight iron]

all boards continue stability and performance improvements over time, even the 60he and other long time boards

it's a constant process improving stability/accuracy and adjusting that

[terse summit]

Issues have me pondering fr

[midnight iron]

welcome to the HE world

[terse summit]

Damn it

[midnight iron]

this is basically what happens nonstop in all HE boards. Actually one of the reason people like wooting long term is they're one of the few brands who will actively continue to improve the firmware long term

a lot of chinese brands will only improve the firmware for the start, then abandon it once they feel it's 'good nuff'

or worse abandon it because they can't get it good enough and just make a totally different board (happens a lot with the budget brands like atk)

[terse summit]

Okay that’s good I’m just worried my keyboard is ab to come in with a gazillion issues

Been waiting months 💀

[midnight iron]

there's always chance of issues, but with wooting you're covered by warranty so it's fine. no need to worry - and their track record for long term firmware support is great

[terse summit]

Yeah I’m not too too worried I’m just stressing that something will be wrong and then I gotta wait another like 3 months before it can be fixed

[spring oar]

Does this mean 2HE is the most stable HE board? Its been like 6 years already for that.

[midnight iron]

i think 2he and 60he use same sensors don't they? I can't recall

i'd imagine if they share the same tech then they share similar optimizations

a lot of the ongoing stuff they're bug stomping/optimizing with the 80he is all the new stuff like led bar, 8k mode etc

[jade widget]

many more firmware updates in the pipeline

[wicked summit]

The second batch of HK is ready to fulfil but me being in HK is EU batch smh my head =/

[night crescent]

The amount of bugs found by a few people testing the software/firmware is just nothing compared to the public. I guess it’s in that alpha/beta state because they know they might not have found all bugs but it is already useable.

[atomic brook]

im not gunna lie

8k not working for some is hard to find

other stuff should be easier to catch

like the calibration

[night crescent]

No it’s not, the basic function is a functional keyboard, the 8k polling is a feature.
Finding bugs that only occurs on a few people is straight up just hard. If you can’t reproduce the issue you most likely can’t fix it straight forward.

[upbeat berry]

the bad part of 8khz is that it seems to be highly dependant on chipset, os and even software running. we are trying to replicate 8khz issues from customers but never can.

[dense oak]

Once I received my keyboard, is it refundable if I don’t like it?

[upbeat berry]

the worst outcome would be if its a repeat of the AMD ryzen issues that existed some time ago

[dense oak]

Or are all sales final

[atomic brook]

yup 30 days no questions asked

[night crescent]

The USB issue where even common audio interfaces just won’t work correctly?

[atomic brook]

but do note if ur outside netherlands, u are covering the shipping cost

[upbeat berry]

it was similar yes

[dense oak]

Thank you for answering my question before I even asked LOL. You’re awesome!

[upbeat berry]

and we cant figure out if the issue is our USB HS implementation or if the chipset messes up

[midnight iron]

to be fair the 8k polling issues i think are a really weird one that's hard for them to spot pre launch

[night crescent]

Yes it does, except for a few people who got a bug because like BigBrainAFK said, there is an old AMD issue where even the most known audio interfaces have issues.

For example

[upbeat berry]

i think simon and mr rock are on it at a high prio because we obviously want to offer 8khz as promised

[atomic brook]

other stuff could have been catchable

just not this

[night crescent]

It was an example

[atomic brook]

they would be buying all computer combinations that exist

[midnight iron]

like even on my own system I don't know what triggers it and the behaviour has been bizarre. No freezing, but sometimes keyboard would disconnect/reconnect or my streamdeck in a totally different usb port would reconnect randomly. I do share the b450 motherboard system that a lot of folks having the issue seem to have though

it's quite weird

[atomic brook]

we do

ur point is valid

[midnight iron]

i mean it's fair, but in this case i don't really know what the solution to have this 8k thing fixed pre launch would have been

[upbeat berry]

the biggest issue is that there is no good solid reproduction steps

[atomic brook]

just the worst example

[upbeat berry]

like if there was a way to force the issue to happen on command that would already help immensly

[atomic brook]

everything else could have been caught if they were severly meticulous

not this one

[lime falcon]

we are alpha testers what do you expect

[upbeat berry]

not really were we wanted to be though

[midnight iron]

i mean that's fair, but again - what is the solution?

for me i'm less harsh if I myself can't think of what the solution would have been

[atomic brook]

not really

[midnight iron]

yeah but i mean what would have been the right steps before launching to find and fix this

[atomic brook]

in the future pobably take it slow

[lime falcon]

yea there are many bugs, just like LED bar hurting 8k performance, but after every firmware there will be way less bugs

[atomic brook]

cos the 80he was announced very forward with a lot of stuff at once

[upbeat berry]

well the same solution microsoft had for win xp and win 7. buy hundreds of PCs in all imagineable configurations and just test

[midnight iron]

starting work earlier would have fixed other bugs but I don't know how they'd have caught and fixed the 8k poll thing even with that solution

that's kind of the issue. This is one of those weird ones where I can't think of a good solution outside of absurd solutions that just wouldn't be practical

[lime falcon]

how would they know about all these issues. they are like team of 20 people

[midnight iron]

it's not a time or starting date issue - it's a "You need x amount of people to be using the wooting and running into this issue ahead of time to fix it"

[lime falcon]

we can see issues when thousands of people got their boards

[upbeat berry]

well 50 now although half of that is basically just support

[lime falcon]

yea 50

[atomic brook]

other issues can be fixed without a large amount of users

[upbeat berry]

but might be some good idea to figure out if we can run test runs for half a year or year or so under NDA

[atomic brook]

just not this one

[midnight iron]

yeah but that statement doesn't really fix or help anything

i get the whole "i'm a customer and i deserve x product working as promised" but there's also the "what are reasonable problems that could be detected and handled and what couldn't be detected and handled in a reasonable fashion"

like if a hurricane wiped out the entire wooting factory that would suck, but the solution wouldn't be "just don't have hurricanes and start work earlier so the hurricane delay wouldn't matter"

some things are reasonable expectations and some aren't

[atomic brook]

i think 2 things were realistically unavoidable

the ic and the 8k

everything else might have been found with a lot and a lot of meticulous checking

[upbeat berry]

well there is one more common-ish issue that idk what the progress of internal investigation is. the tilde key led being broken a some devices

[atomic brook]

oh ya that one

any leads?

[lime falcon]

huh

[upbeat berry]

no clue i know the product design and our fasctory contacts are trying to figure it out

[atomic brook]

a few cases of tilde key's led broken on arrival

just that one

[upbeat berry]

yeah its specifically the tilde key

or well the key above tab since its not always tilde

[mighty ice]

80cm

Ez 🧠

[upbeat pumice]

Don't advertise 8k or don't advertise without an asterisk next to it on the data sheet

[midnight iron]

but it works for most folks

it's just a bug with certain systems that they only discovered recently and are working to bugfix now

[upbeat pumice]

well i hope it works out for Wooting before it becomes a legal issue. Not sure "it works for most peopple" is a good argument in a court. Also not sure what they are going to do if it turns out that it can only be fixed from the motherboard side.

[midnight iron]

yeah i think you're way overreading into this lol

[low token]

Well they have 8k scan and pooling rate so they are not lying

[low token]

They fix issues as fast they can

[midnight iron]

a legal issue is not the end result here and is a crazy thing to assume

[low token]

I don't think so Americans can sue wooting

[midnight iron]

it's just mostly folks who hang around discord too much and start worrying their wooting will come with a bear attack and instant covid due to reading too many support queries and giving themselves worries about their purchase worst case scenarios

[low token]

That's mostly na batch issue

[upbeat pumice]

Also the most people don't have their 80HE i think. Someone from the wooting team here said that most people of (80HE's sold are in second batch and later. I assume that this issue might become more prevalent in the future.

[midnight iron]

20k people have them already

it's already a known issue, they're working on it. It's nowhere near the big deal that you need to be worrying that wooting will be in legal troubles lol

[low token]

It is issue because na werehouse dunno how to pack it

Mine from eu batch arived with no dents

[midnight iron]

it's a fairly easy temp fix while waiting anyway, just turn it to 1k while they troubleshoot it. No biggie

and that's only for those who even experience the issue to begin with

[upbeat pumice]

Wouldn't say im worried since i'm not working for Wooting and don't have any skin in the game lol. I think more than 20k 80HE are part of the second batch. Again im just assuming that more than 20k people are in the second batch

[atomic brook]

40k for 2nd

[low token]

23k was in 1st batch

[midnight iron]

yeah 20k first batch, 40k 2nd/3rd supposedly

but again - it's not that major and they'll figure it out eventually. I'm one of those affected and it doesn't even bother me

i just turned it to 1k and continue on my gaming

[low token]

How do you know 2nd batch is 40k

[midnight iron]

calder leaked on streams

[low token]

Oh

40k?

[midnight iron]

yeah roughly 20k first batch and he said double for 2nd

[potent hazel]

any news to EU-Brug?

[midnight iron]

20k is already kind of a crazy number for 1 batch to be honest

and 40k is even crazier lol

[jovial patio]

8k polling rate bugged?

[midnight iron]

only for a small number of system configs

[low token]

Thats about 9mil €

[jovial patio]

like what intel setups?

[midnight iron]

no, that would be a large number of configs lol

[low token]

10k was in 1st day too

[frank pulsar]

8k polling rate isnt even good, u harm your fps more than it affects gameplay positively

1-2k polling rate is the sweet spot

[midnight iron]

it's only showing up in certain systems with certain combinations of motherboard firmware etc in small random amounts. So they're troubleshooting it now

[jovial patio]

should arrive in november mine

hope its gonna work cause i am litearlly at a 2nd 14900ks rma

[midnight iron]

if you don't experience the issue you can just forget about it since most folks won't

[upbeat berry]

iirc its only some amd chipsets

[low token]

Amd only?

[jovial patio]

prolly a issue with the dual ccds

[upbeat berry]

at least i personally havent heard of an intel user running into it

[midnight iron]

my system is kind of old too running an old amd b450 setup and hitting power limits, so I wonder if that unstable power makes it even worse

[upbeat berry]

i could also just not have seen it

[midnight iron]

the weird power glitches haven't happened since i turned it down to 1k though so meh

[jovial patio]

if its usually amd cpus then its probably the high end ones with 12 and 16 cores that might have issues with running games with high polling rate wchich eats away alot at the cpu and cross ccds allocated threads thats my wild guess

[vagrant haven]

From what Calder responded in here to my inquiry about 8k is that a keyboard 8k is less likely to cause issues than an 8k mouse. Since it’s wildly unlikely a user will manage to saturate 8k in keyboard usage, it’s more likely 1/8ms response time than it is a stream of 8000 data points a second.

[low token]

It is because keyboard switch moves in one axis

[frank pulsar]

okay thats nice to know, i just knew that pro players were using 1k polling rates on their mice due to fps drops

[vagrant haven]

But evidently it causes problems for something, but I doubt it’s a data saturation issue. But I’m not a wooting firmware dev so idk

[jovial patio]

nah some games stutter with the mouse on high polling rates

[low token]

Because they are not optimized

[jovial patio]

its not even a fps drop issue

[frank pulsar]

i play valorant and i know that demon1 and other pros said higher than 1k polling is trash

[vagrant haven]

From what I know about 8khz mice, it’s heavily dependent on the game engine itself and the operating system status, and to a lesser degree hardware.
In general a modern Windows 11 PC in a game that supports 8khz should be fine.
Windows 11 has higher polling rate optimizations apparently.

[vagrant haven]

Someone should tell them they need to enable raw input buffer to use 8khz in valorant.

[upbeat pumice]

Doesn't surprise me, they probably care more about gaming stability and consistency

[midnight iron]

for them they also play on old systems sometimes so more than 1k poll is a bad idea for them

[frank pulsar]

i mean i think everyone who plays competitively should care about consistency

[vagrant haven]

Valorant has known issues with 8khz mice, and for some reason maybe only known to Valorant devs, enabling raw input buffer is often the fix. Beyond that is sorta just system RNG

[midnight iron]

like when tenz visited korea for AVL he mentioned he had to play stretched low res just to keep fps high enough to play

so for pros using more than 1k poll on any mouse is basically always pointless since it eats into their framerate a lot more on those bad comp systems are some venues

[frank pulsar]

the other thing about 8k on wireless mice is they run out of battery so fast that its not practical

wired is a bit different

[jovial patio]

you can negate that with software profile switching on razer works wonders

the only reason i like their app

[vagrant haven]

Also worth noting that LANs are arguably the least consistent setup a pro plays on. So not like they really lose anything by playing at lower than 8khz polling rate.
Playing on an unfamiliar setup with a messed up sleep schedule after who knows how much travel in an unfamiliar location. Mouse polling rate is the least of their concern.

LANs are the most even playing field. But it’s a massive misconception that they’re the peak of performance.

[midnight iron]

i still wonder if wooting is ever moving forward with a tenz collab since he's been their biggest supporter in the pro scene since early days, along with early days yay

[frank pulsar]

100% agree

nerves and stuff too

[vagrant haven]

The first LAN I participated in really woke me up to that realization. It’s basically like going over to a friend’s house and playing on their setup.
A lot of fun, and there wasn’t really money or fame on the line in my case.

That’s why I think the meme of the one CSGO pro pulling out a tape measurer for his monitor distance is so funny.

[jovial patio]

are gateron jades the lightest switches HE switches for the 80he?

[frank pulsar]

im pretty sure there are lighter

[jovial patio]

like

[frank pulsar]

id have to find the chart someone posted

[vagrant haven]

There also might be spring swaps available you could look into.
I don’t think HE switches are compatible with regular springs though. I’m not sure if it’s an issue with magnetism or not, but iirc the main issue for Lekker switches is a wider diameter is needed for their spring.

[low token]

You need non magnetic springs

[vagrant haven]

That’s what I figured. But I knew for a fact that there was a physical incompatibility with Lekker switches and normal springs.

[neat thunder]

no update for EU Brug

just HK sadge

[atomic brook]

[spring oar]

Soon, plus it's sundat

[vagrant haven]

How to keep your sanity after pre-ordering a Wooting keyboard:
Forget you ordered a Wooting keyboard. Be pleasantly surprised to receive a Wooting keyboard.

[ornate pike]

I heard 8k on kb isnt that bad, however 8k on mouse really eats

I plan on buying the lamzu maya 8k but set it to 4k

[past harbor]

whats the shortcut to change leds please

[lime falcon]

I have b550 + amd 5600x

my 8k works fine

I feel like its random

hope it gets resolved for all 80he users

[jovial patio]

what who gets the issue its random?

[ornate pike]

i have b550 and normal 5600, planning to get a new build with 9800x3d

[lime falcon]

I dont plan any upgrades, but If I will ill get 5700x3d

[jovial patio]

i hope amd wont do the classic corporate move and slap a insane price cause its power winning

[austere orbit]

I'll connect the keyboard to the usb3.0 port on the monitor

[ornate pike]

5700x3d price over 5800x3d is actually goated in asian countries

[spring oar]

$150 is goated

[lime falcon]

its like half the price and only 5-10% performance difference

im not paying 200 more $ for 5% performance boost

[jovial patio]

u can OC it to get that 5%

[ornate pike]

exactly
58003d is like $500 here in sg while the 57003d is like $300

[ornate pike]

3d chips cant be OC’d

[jovial patio]

wait wat xD

[ornate pike]

they dont have OC headroom

Only upcoming 9800x3d can

[jovial patio]

i remember i oced my 3900x and it broke got moiney back and got a 5950x

[lime falcon]

Yea i dont care about overclocking

[jovial patio]

made the biggest mistake now upgraded to the i9-14900ks sadge

[lime falcon]

never bothered

[ornate pike]

💀💀💀

[lime falcon]

5600x is currently enough for what I play

[spring oar]

Rip

[jovial patio]

already on a 2nd rma

cant even sell my 5950x now

having it as back up

[ornate pike]

253w vs like 60w power consumption
14900 vs 7800x3d

[austere orbit]

1.33v 5.6ghz 300w with my 13900kf

[ornate pike]

thats x2 of my OC 4060

[jovial patio]

my last 14900ks did that at 1.45v xD and now my rma is accepted

5.6 on 1,45v

[jade widget]

doubles as a heater for winter

[jovial patio]

actually if u have a phanteks nv7 with their 120 t30 slapped the air is not even hot on full load

[ornate pike]

intel cpus run fkin hot esp the i9s

[jovial patio]

the amount of fans is the same cost as the case xD

[austere orbit]

R23 Maximum temperature 98℃

[jovial patio]

its just the small surface has to much heat and u dont have phisically the surface to move the heat away and the ihs doesnt help either

[ornate pike]

thing with intel is that the cpus need a contact frame for max cooling

[jovial patio]

doesnt help much

but new microcodes did help doe

on the 0x128 codes they boosted balls to the walls and always throttled at 100c

unless u delid and run custom water loop

[ornate pike]

it does with like 5 degrees c

since its rectangular

[jovial patio]

its gonna just use that 5 degree to boost higher doe

[austere orbit]

13, 14th-generation cpus need to be manually overclocked

[jovial patio]

well not now anymore

prolyl gonna have to undervolt my next one and lock cores at 5.9

[ornate pike]

intel still charging that much money for their “CORE ULTRA” cpus means they think they’re still at the top of the market

which tbh is L

[jovial patio]

i saw a rando article citing it still sells in japan and us cause of the e-core boost and multithread performance and the power draw improvement

[ornate pike]

brand loyalty ig

[jovial patio]

they still prolly have some big corporate contracts going on so there is that

[ornate pike]

jensen huang can buy intel
samsung plans to buy intel

[valid comet]

my 13700k is a pos

it crashed yesterday without even giving me an error message

[jovial patio]

RIP

mine did random blue screen and crashed my games to desktop

[valid comet]

switching to a 9800X3D

[jovial patio]

so rmed it

idk i prolly stick with it till the end of life aka 5 year warranty

[valid comet]

same, 200+ BSODs and crashes in just one year of owning my Z790 system

[jovial patio]

the warranty starts a new everytime i get a new cpu from rma here in my country so yeah at some point i prolly get cash refund and buy something else by that time

the only bad thing i wont get money back form the mobo

i just wanted to keep my b die rams sadge so i went intel this time cause amd did ditch ddr4 with the 7000

[valid comet]

i honestly wanna get a 12400 instead or a 12700 so I wont have these stupid ass crashes

so I can sell my system

[jovial patio]

i should bought the 12900ks

i think its even still available

[cloud dove]

Any update yet holy na batch taking for ever

[shut cairn]

Me with my 11900kf still going strong

[jovial patio]

well i am gonna see what happens with the newest microcode and new cpu kek

[cloud dove]

Why taking about cpu this about 80he lol

Go to general chat

😂

[jovial patio]

it went from polling rate

wchich system it doesnt work on

to cpus 😄

[ornate pike]

we’re talking about polling rate and how it affects the CPU xD

[snow canyon]

Their shipping price is insane lol

[desert parcel]

Does high polling rate effect the cpu?

[lime falcon]

Yes

also unoptimized OS affects polling stability

both mouse and keyboard

[ornate pike]

yes

esp with mouse

[desert parcel]

Because i have gpx2 and i made the polling rate high now i have alot of stutter ingame

[lime falcon]

dont use 8k

[desert parcel]

What can i do to fix this

[desert parcel]

I use 8k 4k 2k and i got stutter in all of them

[lime falcon]

whats your cpu

[ornate pike]

1k is a good spot for most ppl
however for me I feel 4k would be the sweet spot

[desert parcel]

I5 13400f

[lime falcon]

then your os is the problem

[desert parcel]

So what should i do about it

Like by os do u mean windows or what?

[lime falcon]

yes

[desert parcel]

So what is good os

[lime falcon]

your windows is probably not optimized enough and you have issues with high polling rate

probably running shit ton of useless apps/services in the background

[ornate pike]

istg I cant get over the wait for my 80he to be delivered, 9800x3d release and benchmarks (+PBO) as well as official announcements about RTX 50 series 70 class

[desert parcel]

I have been optimizing it alot but if u can give me any youtube video guide it can be so helpful!

[desert parcel]

Did u optimize ur windows?

[ornate pike]

windows itself is kinda bloatware, I minimise wtv I dont use

[desert parcel]

So u use another os

[ornate pike]

only apps I have running is a game or 2, music app, browser, discord

[verbal solar]

I have an i7-11700f can I run 8k polling?

[ornate pike]

thats it, unless u want to count MSI afterburner which is automatic

[desert parcel]

Like u mean overclock?

For msi afterburner

[ornate pike]

I use MSI afterburner for hardware statistics overlay

overclocking I did it via PBO in the bios

[desert parcel]

Did u change alot of settings in the bios?

[verbal solar]

This was how my CPU looked after 2.5 years of no thermal paste replacement

[ornate pike]

no, mainly only for overclocking CPU via PBO and setting ram to advertised speeds

[verbal solar]

A bit toasty 🔥

[desert parcel]

I did xmp and resize bar

[lime falcon]

havent replaced mine for more than a year...

[verbal solar]

1 year you’re fine

Unless your CPU is thermal throttling

Then I’d check it out

[ornate pike]

i jst replaced my friend’s cpu thermal paste and stock cooler is running 87*, whereas before I’d guess it was in the 90s

Cant tell since he didnt have any monitoring overlay

[verbal solar]

Omg I had a stock cooler and it was AWFUL

I spent like 70$ on a cpu tower and installed that (it took 3 hours) and no longer had thermal throttling

[ornate pike]

I went from stock cooler to PS120 evo, 82* max load to 63* max load

[verbal solar]

The only downside is it consumes so much power 2/3 of my fans don’t have RGB anymore (they still spin)

[verbal solar]

Niceeee

[verbal solar]

Do you think my cpu can run 8k polling?

I7-11700f

[ornate pike]

shld be able to

[verbal solar]

I’m nervous about people hearing 8k isn’t working on their system or they’re having issues

[verbal solar]

Thank you 🙏

This was after I installed it

It’s just a standard tower block CPU cooler

Works great though

[vagrant haven]

8k is definitely still just a “nice to have”. So if you’re worried about it then don’t get it.
But if you can afford the extra $20 8k versions of mice typically cost and are interested in it, then you don’t really lose anything if you get an 8khz mouse and run into issues. Then you just set polling rate to 1000hz.

The main game I play doesn’t support 8k. But I like to experiment with mice so I wanted 8k for games that do support it. Plus I know my mouse hardware has plenty of overhead so I can huff copium and assume my mouse has super high quality 1k polling rate.

[verbal solar]

That’s fair

Does 8k polling consume more power?

Meaning on your power supply

[desert parcel]

I think it uses the cpu alot so maybe it consumes more power

[verbal solar]

Gotcha

[desert parcel]

Use the task manager and open the g hub then try to use 8k 4k 2k and move ur mouse around in circles to see how much percentage it uses of the cpu

[verbal solar]

Unfortunately I only have a Logitech gprox super light v1 so I don’t have 8k polling

[desert parcel]

Oh what mouse do u have

Do u have something that supports 8k

[verbal solar]

Nope xd, I could order a new mouse if you’d like though

[desert parcel]

Oh i thought u had lol

[verbal solar]

I could always just upgrade the Logitech g pro super light x that I have

[desert parcel]

But i did the the task manager thing 8k uses the cpu alot

I have a problem with stuttering in game with higher polling rates

[verbal solar]

What’s the best pro gaming mouse right now

[desert parcel]

There is plenty of great mice

[desert parcel]

Probably razer v3 but i am not sure

[verbal solar]

Gotcha. See I would get the Razer v3 but I despise Razer synapse software

So that’s the only thing holding it back for me

[white dock]

alot of mice today are great specs wise. everything nowadays just comes down to shape and what fits your hands and grip style best.

some recommendations

Razer Viper V3 Pro
Endgame Gear OP1 8K
Endgame Gear XM 4K
Mad R Major

[verbal solar]

Thank you for a list

[white dock]

there are alot more like zowies new lineup, Vaxee Mice

[verbal solar]

Hype me up chat my impulse control is low for gaming tech

[white dock]

is that the razer mouse?

[verbal solar]

Razer Viper v3 pro

[desert parcel]

U buying it now?

[white dock]

its a good mouse, top tier, just a bit expensive. you cant go wrong with it tho

[verbal solar]

Bet

[white dock]

better than a logitech for sure, idk about the software, but i heard it aint that bad nowadays

[near flicker]

Get the white, the coating is grippier. Thought it was a joke until I tried both

[white dock]

gg

[verbal solar]

Wait actually?

[near flicker]

Yah

[verbal solar]

It wouldn’t really match my setup though

[white dock]

there are some differences in coating

i dont think it would be worth the color change tho for aestethics

[near flicker]

It’s minimal but it’s definitely a difference

[white dock]

both are great coatings

[near flicker]

^

[verbal solar]

Gotcha

[desert parcel]

Congratulations man

[verbal solar]

I’ll keep the black then🙏

[verbal solar]

I’ll let you know how it feels when I receive it

[near flicker]

Can always get some grips anyway

[desert parcel]

Do u use grips on ur mouse?

[white dock]

and hey if you dont end up liking it just return and get a different mouse mb if its too big or you dont like the software etc.

[near flicker]

I do yeah

[desert parcel]

Like does it get disgusting and then u have to clean it or is it fine

[near flicker]

I keep my hands pretty clean so I haven’t had any issues

[desert parcel]

I am thinking of getting grips

[desert parcel]

Also when removing the grips is there any on the mouse residue?

[near flicker]

I’d imagine so but it’s as easy as using some alcohol to remove the gunk

[white dock]

i wouldnt recommend cleaning with alcohol

[vagrant haven]

From what I’ve heard the reason white mice are grippier is they have a modified coating compound to help prevent getting gross and yellow. So I think modern white mice have less of an issue with getting gross.
But that being said, mouse enthusiasts I’ve heard that from don’t tend to use a mouse long enough to get gross, so 🤷‍♂️

[desert parcel]

What kind of mouse do u have?

[white dock]

can destroy coating

always just use water its the safest bet

[near flicker]

Viper v3 pro

Is my main rn

[vagrant haven]

Or super dilute alcohol. Like 30% tops.

[near flicker]

Yeah sorry, didn’t mention to dilute it - do that 😂

[desert parcel]

I use gpx2

[meager quail]

Hey guys the white pad that comes with the case what its for?

[tribal crater]

uhh when will we get a new zinc alloy option for the 80he module?

[verbal solar]

Never

[potent ridge]

Got mine yesterday you won’t regret it, unreal mouse

[jovial patio]

i got mine with superglides man that thing was so unusable for the first 2 months before the skates adjusted

literally when i clicked it registed it as a drag click and not a click

[potent ridge]

I’ll probs get superglides eventually, had them on my super light and they were amazing

[versed quiver]

could have gone for pulsar

cheaper n same spec

same ips speeds

with 8k

and it likes 130usd including shipping instead of 175

[verbal solar]

I've heard the side buttons of the V3 pro are very good same with clicks

[versed quiver]

idk i think there okay

tried them out in store at a mirco center

down in la

I dont tend to use side buttons that much so I cant really tell if there good or not but from my pov I think they alright

[tribal trench]

My friend has a wooting keyboard that looks like 80he, but its tkl what kind of keyboard is that

[versed quiver]

wooting one

[jovial patio]

its a mechanical one right?

and not with HE switches

[red heart]

Optical switches

[tribal trench]

he said thats analog idk i saw people sell this kind of keyboard for around 200$ on ebay

[red heart]

Still analog just different technology

Some day the wooting one will be seen as a rare collector‘s item

[jovial patio]

its a wooting crank those switches so i can hear the thock 😄

[naive adder]

Any guides on how to switch the switches on the wooting 80he?

[exotic cove]

3,500$ for optical switches lol

[tribal trench]

would convince someone to sell wooting one for this price after 4 years

[spring oar]

3 moar days before oct 1rst for meh

[valid comet]

optical analog switches

its amazing how ahead of its time the Wooting One was

[exotic cove]

I dont doubt it

[valid comet]

and how its inputs still translate almost like their HE counterparts just with larger deadzones iirc

[exotic cove]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166987230508?_skw=wooting+one&itmmeta=01JB7EERTAFE1AX39KVZAVTXT7&hash=item26e136ed2c:g:OkEAAOSwydVm8beW&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKm77V5ebt5r7OOr%2BjuI11NmXvxrLNk56Xo54ff30xFPdjgJ6OapqgVuDYcSe5JMt%2BbN%2FVxFQhURzM1eonm47lqRGevxUrrE1uZsDdGFsmrulQp1H1OMkWhYHPdQOZj%2Fdl5dJ1dJ04UxoR8jJt%2BrRMytHR5hz8mRvIo%2Fx4chhDtD4Ld7%2BqhTCzP7tpJNTeu4B6qsn1P%2BLwCJHUYGYFQdsAB%2BXvaY5%2BKpuI9R9MCqMlsNulyuI6uKNfSPJY3lMKhBvmg%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR6CNu-7ZZA

here is your chance lol

[tribal trench]

i saw one for 250

[magic wadi]

Crazy

[tribal trench]

i ordered mt wooting 80he yesterday mine will arrive in december

[magic wadi]

its says that when i purchase

but idk bruh

[tribal trench]

prob you live in different region

[magic wadi]

yah

mines asia so its kinda hard

but crazy that my shipping price is 27 usd

[tribal trench]

its weird that asia gets their keyboard later than europe since they are made in hong kong

[tribal trench]

mine was 6euro lol

[magic wadi]

Cause they said they have to wait the keyboard arrive on the warehouse i guess, cause after it arrive to the warehouse then they will ship it to us i guess

Which means the deliver time is based on their warehouse location

[strange pine]

is it normal that my order was placed a week ago in the middle of december and should now be delivered at the beginning of january. i am from germany by the way

[tribal trench]

mine too

maybe the batch will come earlier

but the warehouses are always loaded before christmas so i doubt

[pale geyser]

All the people from the EU-Walvis batch put your hands up! 🙌 lol

[tribal trench]

maybe the santa claus himself will deliver my wooting on christmas night

[magic wadi]

I wish as well

[naive adder]

Oh okay thanks

[tribal trench]

lucky'

[magic wadi]

I mean i bet you ordered a month ago or something

[spring oar]

Hong kong batch?

[sage canyon]

I ordered it two months and a week ago.😭

[magic wadi]

damn thats long

[sage canyon]

yeah

[zealous smelt]

I ordered mine today

[magic wadi]

same

[spring oar]

ooo yeah

[zealous smelt]

It will arrive 2-18 November cant wait

[magic wadi]

wait what damn you are lucky

[tribal trench]

where do you live

[magic wadi]

mine need 2 months

[sage canyon]

Don't lie.😒

[spring oar]

JIS?

[magic wadi]

what about the order date

[zealous smelt]

What jis

[tribal trench]

i ordered mine today and delivey will be in january

[spring oar]

nvm

It's like a keyboard layout, last time I checked it's the only one that's available for 2nd batch

[sage canyon]

Does it say November?
"Placed Nov 2024"?

[versed cradle]

bruh, I ordered August 14th and mine keeps getting pushed back even though I submitted that I will accept the credit back if mine comes with the defect on the white zinc case??????

[sage canyon]

It doesn't make sense to buy today and arrive in November

[zealous smelt]

They said not me

[pale geyser]

It looks like pre-built orders ship faster. Folks who order modules have to wait longer.

[spring oar]

Somewhat does, if he orders black zinc JIS prebuilt

[zealous smelt]

@sage canyon

[sage canyon]

You're so clever.

[zealous smelt]

Why

[sage canyon]

I should've bought it like that

[magic wadi]

which means he got the prebuilt nah i chose the module

[sage canyon]

Didn't you buy it because you wanted it to come quickly?

[magic wadi]

i have thought of that in the first place but I felt like I really need to mod it

[versed cradle]

where do I see this

[zealous smelt]

I bought keyboard to play with it

[spring oar]

https://wooting.io/product-status?app=batch-checker

[magic wadi]

Cause from what I known the keycaps are miserable

[sour tangle]

what a goat

[sage canyon]

cooooool

[zealous smelt]

Thanks man

So you dont say thats it December and not November

[spring oar]

I like the batch name for Travel case (which I got), Dorp.

[versed cradle]

bruh, I ordered August 14th and mine keeps getting pushed back even though I submitted that I will accept the credit back if mine comes with the defect on the white zinc case??????

im so confused

[magic wadi]

wait how to get this page

[versed cradle]

and it still shows that its in mass production?

[zealous smelt]

When did you order

[versed cradle]

aug 14th

[spring oar]

https://wooting.io/product-status?app=batch-checker

[magic wadi]

thanks

[zealous smelt]

WHAT!! I ORDERED TODAY AND JT WILL ARRIVE NOVEMBER 2-19

[sage canyon]

Aren't they making it again?

[low token]

Village batch

[versed cradle]

WTF

[zealous smelt]

Are yall getting custom made ones thats why its taking a long time?

[versed cradle]

Well I ordered the white zinc alloy 80he

[spring oar]

Yesh, fitting since I bought my 80he with village address (that's just gonna go to the PO box)

[sage canyon]

I heard that the white case has a problem at the moment, but I didn't know it would be that bad.

[magic wadi]

idk i only got the pcr case cause i think i dont need the zinc alloy

[versed cradle]

bruh the support team needs to respond to my email lol

I know once they found out about the potential defects, I pick and option to wait for the v2 zinc alloy case or just recieve as is.

[zealous smelt]

I also live very far from eu i guess they just like me better

[versed cradle]

I picked to just recieve as is

[sage canyon]

I originally received October 31st as soon as possible, but it has already been delayed by three days.

[magic wadi]

they said the cs is rigged currently cause it is overloaded

cause i need them to reply my email as well mine is not even that hard

[magic wadi]

I mean u bought the prebuilt version and also JIS which means u are up next which make sense i guess

[zealous smelt]

Did yall order more than 1 wooting cuz why is mine coming early when i ordered today

[sage canyon]

These days, they are very slow to reply to emails, too. I used to get an email reply within a few days...

[zealous smelt]

I dont understand but makes sense

[tribal trench]

no i ordered prebuilt plastic one and gonna wait till january

[zealous smelt]

When did you order

[tribal trench]

today

[zealous smelt]

I ordered today and it will arrive 2-18 November

Atleast you can pretend its a Christmas gift

[upbeat pumice]

eugh still no updates on EU-Brug

[magic wadi]

bro pls stop flexing 😭

[zealous smelt]

No

[sage canyon]

This is what he ordered.

[zealous smelt]

I can mod it ?

Like i wanna change the case i can or no

[spring oar]

Yep! Technically you can mod anything but yeh.

[spring oar]

No third party case yet, but there's 1 stated to be otw.

[zealous smelt]

No you cant change the switched

[spring oar]

The keyboard switch? It can

[versed cradle]

yeah I ordered August 14th and at this point im never recieving my white zinc alloy 80he lol

[magic wadi]

yah, for EU-Walvis which is we have to wait for december for the keyboard to arrive to the warehouse then they send it to use which sucks

[zealous smelt]

How i thought the actuation point is from the switch

[versed cradle]

EU-Brug btw

[zealous smelt]

Magnetic switches

[tribal trench]

crazy work thats why it still in stock

[sage canyon]

But that product is much more expensive than plastic products.😭

[spring oar]

It's just a really well designed keyboard switch with a magnet underneath, it'll be stupid if you can't change that.

[tribal trench]

why

its zinc case?

[zealous smelt]

So if i want silent switches i can put it and i will still get 0.1 actuation and snap tap

[tribal trench]

he keyboards doesnt have silent switches i think

[spring oar]

Yep, but idk if there's any silent switches for HE yet.

[tribal trench]

but ye any switch will get you this switches if its he

[magic wadi]

uk why it is so expensive rn its not just because of the software

But also the switch

[zealous smelt]

Where to buy switches?

[magic wadi]

Magnetic switches are expensive and there is less options as well

[sage canyon]

I think It's a model with a switch, and there won't be a keycap

[tribal trench]

it is

[upbeat pumice]

There is a significant uptick in new HE switches being released, probably thank to all the non wooting HE boards becoming more affordable

[magic wadi]

Website i guess there a few better options
which i chose gateron magnetic jade manually from the website but u can choose others as well

[spring oar]

Lekker is fairly cheap compared to others, but depending on region, much more expensive compared to Geon Raw.

[magic wadi]

like if u like slightly heavier ones u can choose WS HE magnetic switch

and alot more

[magic wadi]

yah ik but i dont like the lekker one thats why i chose gateron which cost me even more💀

[spring oar]

You could try looking for Geon Raw HE on your local vendor

[magic wadi]

thanks to the country that might get me censored if type it idk if that violates the rule or anything

[upbeat pumice]

my guys, that country makes everything including your wooting

[spring oar]

Has tighter tolerance, sounds nice imo, and cheaper.

[magic wadi]

thats why for sure LOL

[worthy maple]

Hey so, I'm not 100% sure the question I have is for here and I do apologize but ... the problem is more for wooting than for me tbh 😂

So, I made an order over 250€ with Revolut, and for this transaction to go through, the merchant needs to request 3DS. Unfortunately they haven't.
edit: Should add that in Hub, the order is confirmed...

Not sure how to fix this in a timely manner as I've heard support is overwhelmed.

[magic wadi]

nope for me its slightly a little expensive

[spring oar]

It's fine

[upbeat pumice]

If it is confirmed in hub it means the transaction went through?

[worthy maple]

Not according to Revolut...additionally, the account is holding the same value, as if the transaction never occurred

[magic wadi]

Not really wooting have to check the order as well before it is confirmed which is why its on pending, since if there is any transaction error they could hold the payment

[jagged dune]

EU-Brug-White-Zinc Batch needs a purple heart badge xD

[worthy maple]

If they can do the 3DS thing on their end later on, that's fine by me, but I'm not sure that happens

[versed cradle]

literally! We are never getting it

its lost

[upbeat pumice]

i thought only the V2 white zinc is getting pushed back. YOu guys decided to get the unfixed white zinc so why do you hav to wait longer?

[magic wadi]

wait what???

[versed cradle]

I opted to get the v1 white zinc case as is and just got credit back if it does come with defects but it still shows im not getting it till mid to late november. even though I ordered back in Aug 14th lol

[magic wadi]

I have no idea that why is it canceled?

[upbeat pumice]

tbf im also brug but plastic case and hub says im also getting it beginning to mid november

[versed cradle]

we are cooked

we will never get it

might just cancel my order and get the 60HE lmao

[magic wadi]

true

well tbh both are the same thing just the difference is the keyboard not the software kekw

[grim thicket]

in the batch one did they come in V1 or V2 lekker switches

[magic wadi]

u can choose manually

[spring oar]

V2

You should also received v2 45g switch pack

[valid comet]

All prebuilt 80HEs are v2s

[coarse crest]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-cry-reading-pepe-the-frog-sad-gif-17607942

[valid comet]

I may consider trying to send back my defective jade maxes if they have fixed the issues with them

[hollow sigil]

PLEASE WOOTING TEAM give us some updates regarding the zinc alloy v2 casesss

[valid comet]

they did didnt they?

[hollow sigil]

They gave any dates ???

[west rivet]

In that site's DB, Wooting 80HE's effective polling rate is listed as 4000HZ. Do you know why?

[valid comet]

not yet they are figuring out the execution iirc

[valid comet]

i wish I knew because I don't think this is "true 8k"

maybe again just alpha firmware

[west rivet]

I looked it up and found that the minimum cycle was measured through multiple keystrokes on the keyboard, and Wooting 80HE measured it at 4000HZ.

[midnight iron]

Yeah you’d have to look into how it’s measured etc. the thing to also keep in mind is that generally no keyboard is 8k poll and scan even when their chip is capable of 8k poll and scan

it’s up to the firmware and devs to see how much power they can pull from the mcu and such

[west rivet]

The person who created the DB said that the polling rate of Wooting 80HE decreases when several keys are pressed. [4000HZ] I wonder if it is possible to improve with firmware.

[midnight iron]

That’s why you’ll see different amounts based on firmware updates, number of keys etc

[midnight iron]

Oh he was measuring multi key polling? That’s fine then

Multi key stuff is different from single key

again it goes back to what different people mean by 8k poll scan, whether it’s single key rate, multi key rate etc are all different numbers

[west rivet]

That's right, the DB producer explains that the effective polling rate is an important number.
Is multi-key polling rate a meaningless number?

[midnight iron]

Nah I think it’s useful too, but generally I just look at average press and release latency and call it a day. Scan and poll change too much based on number of keys pressed, light effects, number of keys on a keyboard etc

Not to mention firmware versioning too. It’s just too much variance for me to care much about it as long as it’s decent

I just look to see if it has decent press and release latency and if it does then we’re all good

[west rivet]

I see. I think it would be good if the multi-key polling rate is improved in the firmware later.
I think it's great that there is room for further improvement in Wooting 80HE's actual performance (it's still too fast)

[lime falcon]

what would you do?

[upper garden]

i have a dream

[dim sierra]

We need a channel or a pin for known issues

[tribal trench]

im gonna crash out i cant handle 2 months of waiting

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/surrender-no-surrender-never-surrender-we-got-this-hang-in-there-gif-4444078148493799117

[gaunt grotto]

How do ppl ordering now get 2-18 november, i ordered in july and get november 21-09 december white zinc. Even though i said im ok with white v1

[upbeat berry]

thats odd

do you have an order number?

[magic wadi]

Fr

[jagged dune]

I have ordered in march 2024 and my delivery is also november december 🤡

[acoustic jasper]

yea, right after i reassemble, this just happened .-.

[woeful shard]

do yall know where to check the order status for my wooting80he?

[tribal trench]

wooting hub

[west rivet]

Can Wooting 80he effective polling be improved to 8,000hz through firmware?

[upbeat berry]

it should already be 8khz

[woeful shard]

i know that but I need to know when it will be arrive to the warehouse so I can confirm address

[acoustic jasper]

Broken led but atleast these new ws stabs don’t tick hehe

[tribal trench]

it should be in wooting hub

[west rivet]

Oh my god, has the fix already been done via firmware? According to eyejoker db creator, it is based on alpha v6.

[tribal trench]

https://hub.wooting.io/

it is here for me

[upbeat berry]

no clue. ik eyejoker has some weird measurements but they also havent published how they calculate their scanrate and such

[woeful shard]

it doesnt show when it will be arrive to the warehouse

[west rivet]

According to the eyejoker creator, I briefly heard an explanation that the effective polling rate is expressed by measuring the minimum cycle when multiple keys are pressed.

[tribal trench]

idk then contact support maybe

[upbeat berry]

well all i know is based on their published list our numbers look the same as a lot if not all other keyboards they mark as 8khz

[woeful shard]

so everyone who is waiting for 80 right now is second batch right?

[west rivet]

I understand, okay thank you

[upbeat berry]

i can look into it next week maybe but idk time is kinda tight

[woeful shard]

the first batch wooting80 is already out right?

and people that ordered now is third batch

did people got the second batch wooting80 yet?

[winged mirage]

when will i get my wooting80

can i low the polling rate of the 80he or is it 8khz always

[low token]

Check in hub

[winged mirage]

aigh

[winged mirage]

'?

[west rivet]

Thank you for taking a look!!

[wispy trellis]

sorry to say it but the stabs are not good yet... specaly on some angles

should be the same sound all the time not depending on the position where you press difrently

specaly shift and space need more attention but honestly all are clicky at some point..

[acoustic jasper]

yeah knew you were gonna bring the spacebar up, sounds like that due to the center stem being silicone

sounds a lot better with a regular bar

[acoustic jasper]

btw, these wires arent even balanced, ive only lubed them so its pretty good even then

no ticking and decent sound profile is enough for me lol

[noble pewter]

I have the Raw Zinc case, and a Razer Viper Mini Signature Edition in White mouse, and the Moondrop Kato IEM's in Blue, any reccomendations for a keycap set that would bring the peripherals together?

[wispy trellis]

thats mine STOCK

[acoustic jasper]

same here for about a week until the lube displaced and started ticking

[wispy trellis]

oh bevore it was more like yours i ofc added lube and made it like that but the stock stabs are good +

just need some love with a brush and lube

[acoustic jasper]

yeah 206G2 on the wires and still ticked after, due to wire imbalance

i was gonna grab some tx ap or ws stupids but the ws v3.1 are similar and shipped faster

very nice and sounds pretty much the same as tx ap

[wispy trellis]

for me the sound test with your stabs sound horrible high pitched noise specialy all on the upper left corner when you presss there would not want ´that ^^

[acoustic jasper]

well we're recording on phones so, the mics are gonna be very airy, thinning everything out. I could say the same for you mods sounding high-pitched.

im sure it sounds great in person

i know mine does lol

[wispy trellis]

microphone quality doesn’t really matter as long as you can still hear the differences. Your right phones may not have the best quality, but it still picks up the variations (even if in lower quality). I don’t mean to criticize your setup – I’m just saying that a stable key should always sound the same, no matter the angle you press it from. But hey, as long as you're enjoying your keyboard, that’s what matters!

[austere python]

third batch in mass production, second batch is on the way to warehouses or something like that

[worn compass]

EU-brug oct 31st
NA-bridge nov 11th
(this is the address confirmation roll out dates)

[forest widget]

There should be an update message Eu brug

[worn compass]

dude nothings gonna change, just wait

[forest widget]

oct 31 To the warehouse？

[floral badger]

another day checking if batch 2 white zinc v1 prebuilt will release early

[worldly stream]

anyone get recomendations for gray/black keycaps

wooting80he arriving soon and want to get something that matches my gray wlmouse

[worn compass]

no its just when confirmations happens

so it'll be at warhouse befor then i assume

idk how it works

im just going off by the #📦│batch_updates

ppl should read #📦│batch_updates more oftennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

and be more patient..

it literally comes in less than a month

there is nothing to worry about unless you bought white zinc 😭

[urban meadow]

I guess they unloaded all of the containers on the ship holding the NA batches, since the tracker says it’s leaving the LA ports

[floral badger]

even white zinc? uwu

[snow canyon]

no

[worn compass]

hurray

[hearty mango]

Rip white zinc buyers again for the idk like seventh time by now or smthn

[urban meadow]

I wonder if this means that we will get our Wootings earlier than expected if they deliver to the Wooting warehouse on time or earlier

[worn compass]

Depends on customs I think

We should have a batch update by next week maybe

If not the on the day shipping confirmation will be available

Crazy how october is almost over…

I remember how october started and I was thinking about how long it’d take until November

Less than a month guys

[wide cloak]

Hello! What would be the best option? Buy the 80he now or wait a few months for it to be in stock?

[solid halo]

if you buy it now youll get it sooner, but something new may come out while your waiting thats better

[wide cloak]

I really want the keyboard but if I order it now it says I have to wait until mid-December and I guess with Christmas it might be delayed even more.

[solid halo]

yeah but its not gonna be fully in stock until way after that so you’ll still get it sooner of you buy now

[wide cloak]

yes you're right, thank you!

[solid halo]

but still something better might come out before then, and then you would be regretting your purchase before you even have the 80he

[half nymph]

is zkeebs legit? trying to find someone w/ geon HE raw in stock w/ lubing service

[half nymph]

and do i want 40g or 50g springs...

[urban meadow]

@half nymph I say just get the lightest ones for a lighter feel

[lime falcon]

I would get 60g for whole keyboard except maybe WASD

either 40 or 50g on wasd

60g feel better to type on

[proven hearth]

hello it is i

40 gram enjoyer (i approve 40 gram springs)

[lime falcon]

[paper hornet]

i've basically lost 300$ :/

its now been 21 days since the package was supposed to be here

[lime falcon]

youre fine, if your tracking wasnt updated more than 14 days its considered lost

just wait for their email

they will send you new one

[soft trellis]

Wooting 80he or 2023 tkl ? I ordered wooting but tkl looks nice

[lime falcon]

80he lol

[lost granite]

Any updates on NA Bridge? Did CMA CGM OHIO pass customs?

[atomic brook]

most likely not yet

[verbal solar]

is there a way I can input a custom profile in the wootility for the 80he? just found it 🤣

whats the difference between rappy snappy and snappy tappy?

[carmine hearth]

lol those terms. they're too close together

[lime falcon]

Maybe it was tested with enabled LED bar which fucks up polling stability on 80he, thats why he says that its effective polling is 4000

[lime falcon]

#⏬│rappy_and_snappy message

[buoyant fox]

I’m taking the 40$ lot

lol

[violet garnet]

It's been over 2 weeks and my syringe of lube for my stabs still hasn't come in

I expect it'll be at least another week tho

[half nymph]

ah weak i waited too long to figure out my config and now it's Jan until this ships? bah

did they crank the plastic case prices too??

[atomic brook]

nah

[magic wadi]

I want my wooting 😭

[atomic brook]

the first module that you buy does have heavy discounts for adding stuff like switches, cases and keycaps tho

[magic wadi]

I'm gonna go crazy waiting

[magic wadi]

I mean they are famous now

They don't need discounts to attract people

[half nymph]

hmm cancelled balck zinc too

[wispy cloak]

They cancelled it too?

[half nymph]

well no longer available to order

[wispy cloak]

Wtf

[red heart]

[half nymph]

think i'll just get plastic and hope for good 3rd party options

[wispy cloak]

I dont get it tho

In like 3 weeks the keyboard should arrive and im still waiting for the white zinc

And its still stuck in mass production

[red heart]

Looks like i can still order it

[half nymph]

oh

werid, only choice preassembled but raw is only choice for module

[wispy cloak]

Im angry

I want my keyboard

[red heart]

I see it for module too

[wispy cloak]

At this point im thinking about cancelling my order