#🌟│wooting80he
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i bet there were lots of order edits once ppl realized raw is quite raw not polished (like myself)
yep that's what I assumed too, especially after we had like 3-5 videos saying how raw was not polished highly
:)
yeah hy and a lot of folks swapped out of raw at that time
Stinks the product isn't what you expected Synta, maybe there's something you can do to get those blems out
I highly doubt it though
he's not a raw zinc order
Are there any more raw zinc orders shipped?
if @ornate jasper wants and he is happy to pay like he mentioned then you can just take it to a cerakote store and get a gunmetal cerakote style done. That's what i'd suggest
that's what my initial plan was too depending on how i liked the final raw
again, what we assume about what people think/expect has nothing to do with clear communication between what you're ordering and what you're gonna get
if there are substantial differences between color options it needs to be stated, if there's a certain amount of things that people might assume is a defect (but it's actually within spec) then that needs to be stated
i do understand what you're saying, but i only allow my assumption to go as far as people expect a product to fall somewhere within shown pictures and description, what other preconceived notions people have about raw cases in general falls outside of that, enthusiasts monitoring the discord or people keeping up with yt videos also falls outside of that
something like this is what I'd suggest if you want the silvery look: https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/E-250/titanium
I hear you Syn, Its unfortunate wooting can't make 100% of people satisfied, I own my own business and this is painfully true.
yeah I already said I agree they needed better photos and such. I do think it's a fairly minor issue though
oh i'm not expecting them to satisfy 100% of the people as that would be impossible, just this specific thing I think can be communicated more clearly as far as the product page goes, that's all
this is more one of those 'yeah it could be improved, but it's also not that big a deal' things. They should absolutely improve the photos and such used to show what's expected better, but I also think this problem impacts very few people overall
Or maybe supply more sample pictures to show people the variances instead of a golden sample pic
I think the problem is they were redoing raw zinc until the last minute
especially when we consider the fact that it's already been communicated through discord and videos
the info is out there, but not in the place where you actually buy the keyboard
they even swapped the final product i think twice in a period of a week or so
raw?
Yess
Nice
it went from raw zinc with water marks to raw zinc stonewashed to raw zinc with water marks again all in that short period
which from reading between the lines delayed some production stuff a little bit too
Ahh I didn't follow the raw evolution so I was un aware
I'm starting to think Igor don't like me
speaking of stonewashed, i'd love that as an option
yeah basically they worked on the coating until it was basically overdue and holding stuff up lol
then they had to just go with it since they couldn't mass produce the stonewashed one
lighting also plays a bit factor in the marks showing too - like in the unbox video you don't see it as much but in darker lighter it shows a lot more
I kind of dig the waves in the finish
Some people would like it and some people don't, that's how it is
yeah
yep. I'll still consider doing a more brown/silver metal cerakote after a bit probably, just to match my retro keycaps a bit more
ooooo that's going to look nice
yeah I want something like this
I would like a doodoo brown with some keycaps that kind of look like wood oir wooden keycaps
some walnut keycaps
Ye, I think you can show it as minor as nothing and as something alarming
I'm still on the fence about ordering it, might have to wait for more pics
Tamer is going to put more pics after as he said
And the possibility of a stonewashed option might be worth waiting for, I guess
But that's just wishful thinking as nothing is confirmed
someone link me to the raw zinc
they removed it from the store
They didn't remove it
Link me Alex
What else do I need to build this thing out
im ordering now, this will be my first build.
The module right>?
You a re a founder, what did you order back then?
I got the Zinc White 80HE
what are some good sites to buy keycaps from?
If you are going to order another one then go to this
I thought you only wanted the case
I want the case and the module, ill use the extra switches that came with my 80he for switches and buy some wooden keycaps.
I want to make more pictures but for some reason there is condensation inside my camera lenses
I did make more pictures but they are bit cloudy
How Do i order the module without the plastic case
Discord embed be trolling you
Mark help me eggman
Add it to the order, go to the next page on the cart, remove it there
ily
Choose zinc alloy lol
I knew that dingleberry, but when I went to add the module it auto added a plastic case, just didnt know you could remove it
do I need stabs too?
mentioning just in case its not known. the daughterboard is a component of the case, and is needed to power the module
It doesnt come with the case?>
Yes, it comes with the case
Everybody lucky except for me, Igor what did I do to you?
I will have you in my evening prayer to Igor 🙏
Thank you! 😂
Well, that is certainly raw 
Now me too. I‘m curious to see what my raw case will look like
I need prayers for my keyboard I get it today
did they upload the case to github yet?
oh that reminds me
@thick lichen you asked me to ping you as a reminder :)
Not yet.
Ah yeah right. About the 4 key spot.
I see Kevin forgot to send me the exact dimensions lol. I will bump him again.
Yours is just extra unique 
i'm not too thrilled about how that one looks, but i'm also in a bit of i can fix her mindset with cerakote and whatnot
wallet is still in danger 
Does it feel rough?
he doesn't own raw zinc, he's black zinc iirc
not my pic
nah, ghost here
ah ghost
i went from never zincer to being tempted by raw zinc
is there a way to attach the angled platforms a little more securely?
just 1 month to go. i need to stay strong 😄
i adjsut my keybaord occasionally and they always sldie out 
getting my geons tomorrow i think, just no board 😔
Join us
i gotta clean my setup over the weekend before 80he gets here
can't be taking dusty setup photos
black and white zinc were too plain looking for me, but raw is actually unique
ghost was unique and "cheap" route 
speaking of ghost, i have pulsar x2h clear black coming in a few days
gonna post pics to show how well it matches with the case
Ghost would have been my choice if I went with pcr, in fact maybe I'll get it in the future
hope it's gonna go well together, but red keycap accents might be required
definitely will match pretty good
Any Batch 2 update ?
Negative
Another day of no batch 2 updates
sad

but november coming soon
Every time you ask for a Batch 2 update, we delay it another two days.
lol

Now that’s a proper October scare
I think they are playing with our emotions, the day changed from 02 December to 01
I feel like someone could exploit this by copy pasting the same question…just for fun… imagine if someone would do that…
Batch 2? Batch 2 batch 2?…….. batch 2?
It only applies to me sry
80HE
"G" "K"
two led not work
,how can i fix it?
don’t use led :D
😄
you can get warranty replacement if you have dead led
Sounds like you’ll have to send it back to wooting. Tough situation, wait for a new board in 6 months or get used to it
Or become a solder legend and fix it

You do not have to wait six months for a replacement...
delayed another month for you

Sure but you have to pay 42069€ in concept of rush demand.
I just received the package today. If it comes to after-sales service, it will take a long time.
It's really a sad story.
That does sound like a sad story
Werent we supposed to receive some updates on batch 2? (This week)
Still TBD, I wouldn’t set a hard date, but a date range may be more appropriate in the next 1-2 weeks as we get closer to November
In mark we trust 🙏🏻
The update will come between today and 12th July 2038 give or take a couple days
May be a bit later
I wouldn't worry about that meteor strike which will happen at 12th July 2038, given plans of opening additional warehouses at immediate vicinity of ISS, and possibly Mars 
Damn. My eta is 2038. 
Oh yeah yeah, that's due to Hub not being updated to handle 64-bit datetime values, once it does, you'll get an accurate estimate 
Apple Titanium at its finest
Just discovered one thing on my shipment
why is is yellow and red, last time it needed an update but idk what it is this time cuz its upto date
is yours 2 80he?
mine is 4kg for one 80he
- 80HE , + cases
Getting my 80he today! Who's got the best valorant profile?! please link!
Posting in here again since I don't know what else to do. I made a ticket last week with no response. My package was deemed damaged by UPS and sent back before I ever saw it. No word on a replacement and since I haven't gotten responses to my ticket I don't know what's going on. Any tips or someone else in a similar situation hear back?
It's a blessed day to be a raw enjoyer!
Nothing to do but be patient for a response. We're answering tickets as quickly as we can.
wouldn't it make more sense to make a profile based on yourself
or you tweak an existing profile
It is pretty crazy for a keyboard 🤣.
Time to reinvent patience
Bro this is so long Hahaha stay strong
The memes keep us sane and pass the time 🙏🏻
My order changed to Pick and Pack!!!!! Should I be excited???
since you have replied, you just need to wait and someone from customer support will help you out
yep, that means tomorrow it'll be picked up/shipped probably
mine was pick and pack at this time yesterday then label printed early in the morning and marked shipped later in the day
Does that mean this will affect my estimated time?
Me too, finally
yeah but shouldn’t be too significant. better that an address check was performed instead of it potentially shipping out to the wrong address / being returned etc
what batch are you?
he is Kampioen, batch 1
man i love the geon raw he's so much more than the lekker switches, first 10 seconds are lekker and last 10 second geon raw he
RAW sounds better what about the feel?
they feel better as well, and stem wobble is also way better
are those lekker v2
sounds like v1s
v1 vs raws is night and day
yea those are def v1s
Has anyone heard anything back from support on any issues raised? A few people on the subreddit have the issue with the tilde key LED only displaying blue
Yes
Just be patient
Is the GEON RAW H switches good
shhh they'll hear you
my package just came in
yes, but also it depends imo
depends?
depends on what you're looking for in a switch
Longer than 2 weeks?
and also on what you currently have, etc
yes
i saw a video and i really like them
if it's broken led on delivery they'll probably mail you a new pcb, but yeah support is a bit slow right now due to 80he launch
become a part of geon raw church
you have summoned them
what does that mean ?
anyone else just slowly changing out more and more keys for the lighter force yellow ones?
I first just changed wasd, now space and control. I'll eventually get to all of them lol
Cult worship
Geon RAW is not only switches, its a whole religion
oh what did I walk into
they are better then jades and lekker switches ??? if so i will join :3
people have a bit of an obsession with those switches in here (i hope they're memeing) 😄
can't blame them though i guess
Please, fix your cases. Case wobble is unacceptable at this price 🙏
You have to cut your finger and spread it into a pentagram and chant Geon’s name 3 times and he’ll appear
Yes, also cheaper
dont get scammazed by gateron
gateron ? wat that
wtf is case wobble. You mean flex?
what makes them better than the others offered?
gateron makes jades
what?
what??
zinc or plastic case?
Thank you for your support to the Church of Geon
I said case wobble. Why bring up flex?
did you not read my question mark?
its there
do these switches even fit the 80he module ? they look very small
some peoples case wobble comes down to a cheap desk, not the case itself
( this is the first time me getting custom stuff 😭 so i dunno ! sorrwy ! )
zinc and we've had this conversation before. The replacement unit I got has the same amount of wobble
does he mean it doesnt sit flat on the desk?
zinc case is so freaking expensive
When I say "CASE WOBBLE" I mean "CASE WOBBLE" lol
you should get mad instead of answering the question
stop pretending everyone knows or should know what you mean
why are you guys arguing all of a sudden
No one is getting mad lol what
lmao
using caps and still not answering the question lol
case wobble is pretty much self explanatory. The case wobbles
case can wobble if its bent
some cases are legit not right and wobble even on a flat surface, mostly zinc but there were few plastic ones as well (mine was like that)
How is that difficult to understand?
also should i lube the switches that i have or not ?

there are so many ways I could imagine a case wobbling, or that term not making sense at all
I knew some cases were wobbling, but mostly zinc? hmm
nope v1s, but because of that the difference feels even more extreme
No, they are factory lubbed. You dont need to lube them
The bottom left part of the keyboard doesn't touch the surface of my desk, causing it to wobble.
same issue with my replacement unit and I'm 100% sure it's the keyboard itself
oohh but dont you need to re apply the lube
maybe in a year lol
Maybe just the springs (assuming youre talking about v2 lekkers). I took the time to do 26 of the L45s completely and its not THAT much different. They did good from the factory. Just a little springy on a few of my switches.
sorry for the late reply Shafie, my parents called me right when i planned to answer that its the v1s, they are on vacation and had a medical emergency and they have to pay a shit ton of money to the hospital
ahh okay
no no i have the geon !
well, i say mostly zinc as i mostly saw people having that issue with zinc and only few mentions of that happening with plastic
who knows what's the actual statistic on all that
E
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Ooooh, im late to the party lol, i wanna try some of those, but im scared pulling the switches out lol, theyre in so damn tight
geon raw he not geon raw h
geon raw hehe 
Yeah, not everyone notices that issue tbh
and what's the point of asking for another replacement when it's going to have the same issue again
I wouldnt care personally
o wait yea my bad geon raw h
where can i buy keycaps ?
like how do i kno it will fit the switches
Well, I do, especially because this is an already expensive keyboard and shouldn't be happening
anyways the geon raw he’s are perfectly well factory lubed, honestly you don’t need to lube them whatsoever (from personal experience)
So you have 2 copies with same issue?
o okii thankyouu!
Yes, the original I bought during preorder and the replacement case I got this week both have the same issue
nearly all keycaps work on the wooting lol
Yes, it's the case itself. My desk is fine
o okay tyty
Have you tried if it wobbles on the floor?
because you might be extremely unlucky if you received 2 bent cases
I've tried it on my wall, kitchen table, salon table. Everywhere. it's in the exact same spot. and I have plenty of other keyboards and none of them have this issue

it's pretty bad if you have it bad, mine was the kind where you press arrow cluster and feel the keyboard dip and hit the desk
i'd assume absolute majority of them are well within reason and you can't feel anything like that even if the case is not perfectly straight
Even the garbage keyboards at my job don't have this issue lmfao

Filled the case with silicon for dampening
I don't know if it'll have any meaningful impact
Why tho 
See that word right after "for?"
Yeah but this too 
it will make it sound deeper
it looks so weird
less hollow
You won't see it obv 👍
I have a question, i ordered the 80he module, does it come with a plastic cover thingy for ontop of the keyboard?
i know but i only ever used foam and those silicone mats
Added a more solid sound to my tofu
But there's less space in this case
I'll show sound in a moment
!!
Nope
Oh nice, another zinc raw in the wild?
Si. I think maybe I ordered it by mistake, I can't remember lol
I ordered the day the pre-orders opened and honestly can't remember but I'm happy with it anyway
Hey when will it be out, the 80he dust cover?
no idea, up to the aliexpress vendor when they add it
how expensive would a dust cover be?
How do I fix spacebar rattle if it is only on one side?
3 days ago yeah
I lubed the jades and did the silicon that was it
Design is different this time. It free floats inside the case
do you have jade switches?
Yes
Those are lubed jades in the video
They feel really good and imo the video is a bit harsh compared to real experience
i wonder how they would sound compared to the lenker ones through your mic, because (imo) they sound really unpleasant but might also be because of the mic or something
dam 3 days ago? Must be NL order
Yeah it's the mic @carmine cairn definitely sounds harsh for some reason
I also hace the lekker45s and they sounded good too. I think I'd have been happy with them too
Yeah damn spacebar
Same thing on the 60
can you post some more pics of the keeb please, wanna see more of that raw case
I got those keycaps on Amazon for 18 bucks
@midnight iron OH you the one that reccomended me raw geon h switches\
Really happy with that


glory to geon and all that he touches
my 80he module arrives 2-10 nov
i wish i had like 10 jades just to try them, but i won’t spend more money on switches if i already bought some with which i am super happy
A little more representative
I think you will be happy with either choice in reality. None of the lekkers sound like a high end keyboard and imo are always going to be a bit of a compromise
But they still sound pretty good and perform amazing
your raw case came out nice too, very low amount of the coating marks
Hope it helps anyway
Does anyone know if I need to take apart the keyboard to install my own stabilizers instead of the wooting ones?
yes
Yeah ofc
It's not hard though
It's a gap but it's designed that way
Nm
I need to get it shaved there
Thanks
I see, I'll have to look up a how to guide
not sure if that's correct, the other zinc ones looked flush together
No you're right
i guess it can be assembled wrong?
ooh right you did that
Thanks for pointing it out

I can just remove the foam
I don't know honestly. In the 60he the stabs were really quite good so all they "needed" was some lube
So i wouldn't replace them right away
Hayyyo guyyysss
What can you recommend as keycaps for the 80 he in German iso layout pls 🙏 ❤️
It comes disassembled
Well mine did anyway. You just have to disassemble it a little further. It's just about 8-10 screws holding the plate to the pcb. This is where you will gain access to the stabs
After living with this kb for the last few days, the one word that keeps coming to mind when I use it is: premium
Yeah it's a little harsh. I may lube the stabs
The video makes it louder though
ah so its not normal, the sound?
which switches do you use if i may ask
ahh im gonna use geon raw h
I don't think it's the switch since the others sound good
ooh
Stabilizer is prob a little dry
Post when you do!
i will !
i have a black case and got white keycaps though, i want to paint the case to white
Here are some lekker 45s lubed, stabs also lubed just from injecting some krytox on each i have some jades but they sound too sharp to me cuz they bottom out in the closed housing.
I'm not married to these switches 🙌 if there's something better I'm down to try them
Those are definitely louder but they sound good
I honestly couldn't pick which i liked more. I just eenie meanie minie moed that b* 😆 🤣
The stabilizers I bought are clip on instead of screw on like the wooting ones, don't know if that makes a difference
raw he switches are the way, the truth and the light
when you say raw, is this the name of a switch or are you saying just the base/oe switch?
clip in is fine. You bought tx ap I'm guessing?
forgive my ignorance lol
it's the switch name. Geon raw he is the full name
🙏
raw he = switch name, geon = brand name
need to look those up then
raw he easily. Lot of folks been having issues with jade max sticking
Do the Raws need some tender, loving lubing, or can it just go in...
Raw?
yeah the raws sound good. they sound kinda close to the jade honestly. a bit softer
might have to pick those up
Welcome to the club
they come prelubed, but you can always hand lube them if you prefer and bag lube the springs
church*
so far every switch i've gotten that says prelubed has been a bit disappointing
i see a tiny bit on the inside track there but that's it
^its the springs
but to be fair, they still sounded fine
i just feel they could have been better
but that's to be expected
not like that's some big shock or anything, not really a complaint. you can easily run them as is.
I'm about to relube mine as there is lube in places that makes the start of the press feel sticky
Hard to say how sensitive someone else is gonna be about, or maybe even it's just my batch being overlubed or whatever
i dont think hand lubing is worth the time investment, but i always torture myself anyway
I'm thinking of getting some Raws but I dread the lubing since it'd be my first go. Even then, I don't get the board until NA-Champion ships.
its not hard or scary, just super tedious. get some music going and do it in shifts
i did it in 2 shifts. half and half.
you can do all the springs at once like he said, in a bag.
Do you guys use krytox for the springs when bag lubing? Or something else? Ive just been painting some krytox on the wound up ends lol
i'm using the krytox 205g0
If yours comes with lekkers give them a try, might be fine with them
Can always upgrade later if you're not satisfied
i have another grease for stabs
When bag lubing you use oil. Gpl 105 is what most folks use
molykote
still using 205g0 on the actual switch or?
Oooh gotcha, thanks, gonna get some right meow
Yeah, it's coming with just the default 60s, didn't buy in time for the 45s so it'll be a new experience at the very least.
Yeah 205g0 on switch and 105 oil on the springs
you can just use 205g0 on the springs too, but can't bag lube with that
have to donut dip or brush them one by one
ya i brushed mine painfully lol
SAAAAAME lmao
leggoo
Yes same!!!
if you had a 60he, you're really going to love the 80
somehow they made it feel twice as premium
Which month did you order it?
are the wooting PBT keycaps letter thingy like see through as in it can shine led through it ?
Yep
Every time I use it, I'm walking away with the same impression: it feels like G wagon. Primo.
what are even the keycaps that led can shine through the letters called ?
shinethrough keycaps usually
o okok tyty
these are the same ugly ones that come on the steelseries apex https://www.amazon.com/XVX-Keycaps-Universal-Compatiability-Keyboard/dp/B09JRSQC1M/ref=sr_1_15
these seem a bit nicer actually
still sounds like it needs different stabs
I wonder how this style of key would look with the north facing LED
nah they both puddings, other than that font and legend placements differ
im gonna try to lube it first and see how that goes before replacing.
the spacebar does sound pretty freaking bad. there's no sugarcoating it
Space bar foam insert and a proper stab lube job does well
nice yeah thankfully its the only key I think that needs addressing
thanks for the suggestion. so just dampen the spacebar with an insert?
in addition to lubing ofc
yeah you can either use your own foam or lots of places sell cheapie foam cut to spacebar with sticky tape on one side
makes the space bar sound much closer to the rest of the keys
appreciate the suggestion.
hope you guys get your keebs soon. i think you're going to be very happy with it
my order says late dec 💀 
Mine is still sitting in the box ><
waiting on keycaps - I gotta say AliExpress order tracking/speed is way better then I expected
which keycaps did you get
@snow canyon is support getting milk, two weeks tf.
yeah bro its bad all I can do is wait and wonder 
couple sets of GMK clones to try out - Apollo, Firefly
what's the inquiry about?
case swap to zinc white... at this point idek if its even possible
I sent the request a week before they announced V2 white case in the works
I got burned on a genuine GMK oblivion with warped spacebars -- never again
whats your opinion on spring force? this is gonna be my first hot swap- keyboard, so i got lekker60 since its what my current has.
I really like the v2 60s
i tried the lekker v1s;v2s 60s and geon raw he, i don't know, i am personally not a big fan of the lekker switches, especially because of their stem wobble, the stem wobble is really noticable even on the v2s
45s are to light in my opinion but the geon raw he's have 50 and those are the ones i bought and they are like the sweetspot for me personally
yea. the stem wobble is better for sure
but compared to the geon raw he its still rather noticable
idk to me they and jades (not pros/maxes) have same stem wobble
which is very little
i bought the v2s seperately (20 pieces) with the coupon in my hub
but yeah there is room for improvement, world is not ready for wooting x geon collab switches
(not happening)
if that would be happening i would immediately buy those
i would've bought some jade max's if they were available in lass than 70 pcs, but i won't buy 70 switches just to test the switc
4mm closed bottom geon collab
the rumor I read was they may start offering Geon switches on the wooting store?
👀
yes they will sell them
it never really bothered me even on the v1's
am not that picky as long as it does its job
70pc and 90pc
hell yea
I do feel for whatever the next years board is they need to step it up from v2 lekkers to something raw he/jade pro level
shhh they'll hear you
I think they will release new 2he? thoughts?
it's fine for now because v2 lekkers are an okay stock upgrade from v1, but next year onwards a lot more boards will be defaulted to jade pro level switches and lekker v2 won't compete the same wobble/sound wise
no idea. We know there's 60he pro but who knows if that's a full upgrade or what
I feel like the vast majority of people getting HE boards are not enthusiasts and will probably be happy with the leckers
problem is 'ok' is how you end up as razer in 5 years
Whatever, 80he is on the way and i have 60he also, enough wooting keyboardsi think
ive reached endgame, will mod 60he if I get bored
wootings price point and tier in the market means people expect the best from them where possible
you havent done any mods to the 60?
true
No, I just swapped switches thats all
right now the reviews for 80he are "lekker v2 are a solid upgrade" but no one is really saying "these are the best HE switches right now"
what they really should want is "these are the best HE switches i've tried"
and it should come stock like that
I think it comes down to small details that only enthusiasts care about
does wootomation even been worked on right now... because feature seem lacking on basic task I want to achieve
Yea they will either release updated version of 2he (most likely) or 60he, doubt there will be other layouts
I get what they're doing with lekker v2 being an easy stopgap to fix the initial wobble stuff without needing a full switch redo, but for sure when they do a proper full he switch re-do in the future it needs to up their game to at least raw he/jade pro levels
closed bottom 4mm travel lekkers

yeah imagine 4mm geon raw he style switches made by wooting as stock. That'd be super nice
Is there any new info on the white zinc case?
Yea I really want 4mm travel switches that are same level or even better than raws or jades
I prefer 4mm travel switches
nothing new yet
my guess is that lekkers are switches designed to sound tockie out of the box without the need for hand lube and giving full travel to allow analog use
and please I hope the closed bottom will not start grinding on the bottom out
what
i hope they add “support” for switches with less travel into wootility, the switches still work fine with no problems, don’t get me wrong, but when i set activation point at 4mm fully pressing the switch down will send the input, but that also means, that if i set my activation point at 0.4 its not actually 0.4 but might be closer to 0.5, well as i just said its a really minor issue but i would still like a fix, because i believe fixing that can be done in 5 minutes based on how it actually works rn it ofc could take longer etc
lekker v1 were just what they went with early on because there was almost no options back then and wooting was way smaller so getting their own switch made was a bit harder for them to fund and do within timeframes
then lekker v2 were an easy tolerance upgrade on the design to basically improve the main complaint of lekker v1 which is the large wobble
Oh yea, when I received 60he last year those switches were ass
it's already planned as part of wootility v5, just not added yet because they're busy with bug fixing it first
today ❤️
they want to add a switch selector to wootility v5
I threw my 80He box off, it looked like it went through world war 2 twice
thats good news 
that polybag didn't really help putting box into prestine condition, beside box was pretty flimsy
thank god for travel case that put everything in one piece
yes, but I still feel that they need to explore more possible sound profiles with a different stem design perhaps. lekkers v2 are just an upgrade of the first v1 design
yeah that's what i mean. For future they need whatever switch they end up with to be raw he/jade pro level switches and no longer just minor update on lekker v2
it has to step up the game to match what the other top tier competition is going to be using
lekker v2s are top 4mm switches right now, there is no better option
I'm kinda one of those people but even with that lekkers v1s in my 60he were iffy and felt like something I'm putting up for the sake of HE board
v2s feels more like what should've been in 60he to begin with, but obviously reality is a bit different
true
the main thing they don't want is for their competition to be making boards and people look at wooting and ask "Why do I need to spend $35 on raw he switches to match the stock sound of this other keyboard? They're not even expensive switches, why am I getting lekker v2 still"
so while it's 'fine' - they have to play up to the level of the competition in the future
for a person who used mass produced keyboard all my life, I honestly can't tell if Lekker v2 even require upgrade
it just sound and feel fine.
especially with increasingly more keyboards from china starting to come stock with jade pros in the near future
I am in the same boat
yeah, but raws are not even a default option for any other board. So buying them is always an upgrade. Jades in other hand are extra option on some boards
they kind of are actually
I am coming from Gateron browns in a Keychron Q board
I mean, I was thinking of maybe changing switches for the sake of trying new thing... but I am not sure if I can feel the change if I do
jade pros/ttc magneto is already announced as stock for a few upcoming keyboards
which is why I said for now it's fine to be on lekker v2 stock, but for whatever their next year board is - they need to step up the stock switch
but honestly using this compare to mass produced one does feel better, so maybe I will
I think you would but if you're happy with with you have then I say roll with it unless you are curious
and realistically for the price of the wooting 80he, i don't think it's unrealistic to expect that it come stock with cheap but better feeling/sounding switches such as geon raw he or similar oem build like that
totally agree
that said we don't know what their switch contracts are and such, so maybe they want to move away from lekker v2 but have to be on them for x more time due to stock and buy contracts and lack of time to develop a new switch
once production for Jade Max is stabilized, then maybe I will give it a whirl for that one
Lekker V2s are made with a different manufacturer that we can work with more directly and push forward innovation in switches in a way that we never could with the previous manufacturer
i'd be a bit careful of them, people been reporting sticky keys with them
yeah that's what I'm looking forward to, with them being the same manu for another particularly popular switch that is touched by gods
I guess I can wait for improved batch
This is not my first hall effect KB, but this is my first customizable keyboard so
I did use Apex Pro before whole He KB become a thing
I’ll keep you posted on how mine do when batch 2 arrives 🙏🏻. So far mine haven’t been sticky, but I can only test on my switch opener 🥲
is that like bad factory lubing, or just bad design or manufacturing?
For the stem I think design/manu for why it’s stuck on to keycaps, but the actually sticky key itself I think it could be lube related. I could only replicate it being ‘sticky/stuck’ when I went overboard with lube on 4 ish of my switches
i wonder if there might be some keycap warping actually being caused by the over tight stem
I’m waiting to see if Arc has similar experience or not
and that warps the keycap on the stab keys in particular
you think future batch could improve this?
That’s what I was originally worried about, but mine were little easier to remove after handlubing
But then again it’s on my geon opener 😦
If everyone compiled feedback to Gateron they could if it’s bad enough
Keycap warping? that sounds bad..
it happens sometimes on cheaper keycap sets even by default. The longer keys can be a tad warped and it causes stabs to be sticky/stuck
i've had it happen on some old sets like my epbt gok black on white set
You might be onto something
why wait for future jades batch when raw hes exist, godsent switches
shafie does have a point
If mine turn out to be lemons then I’m prob going to put my pride aside and swap my flairs and pretend nothing happened
but that happening to switch that cost 1USD per switch seems... weird
The people that had issues were reporting it happening when they press it off axis which is rather odd, but I haven’t been able to replicate
well if that's the case, I will keep my eye on it
Yeah I’d say the best course is to put the Maxes on hold until we get more sample sizes from folks
The Jade max enthusiast crowd already is very small
best course is to not touch anything made by gateron
lmao
안녕! It's Mikey Here! Today I finally got the Wooting 80HE video completed. I apologize the video is incredibly long, but I promise it will be worth the watch with modding and all the popular switches tested in the new board! This video will include mods + sound tests with the popular switches and the newest Gateron Jade Max
Sound Test done with...
That's what got me the idea in the first place lol
yeah i would avoid using them for now
wait.. I think i missed that specific part..
keycap stuck inside of switch is like wth...
100$ switches
but it is early batch, I think he said I got it in like regular Jade switch package
because they didn't produced proper box for it yet.. so this gotta be super early production
100 dollars!!! Its like half of 80he minus shipping
They just didn’t have their own Jade max box
Paying all that money for scuffed boxing, geon wins again
Glory to Geon and all that he touches
You guys are making me question my life decisions
shotmisser how about sticky switches for hundred bucks
i dunno, too poor for that
probably because its $1 a switch
i really do want to use jade maxes
they are so nice but the flaws are impossible to overlook
leaving a review on the gateron website because I really REALLY want these switches to be amazing
but I will have to wait until 2025 probably 💀
Tell them to also scrap new switches until they fix their newest release
i just went with the original gateron jades. after lubing them all i'm not even looking at other switches lol.
that is a process i don't plan to repeat anytime soon
Somehow the switch box was completely beaten up and the switch container was out of it but the container stayed closed wtf 😭😭😭
Blessed asf
wow lucky
you got lucky
Actually crazy
quick buy a lottery ticket
LMFAO
Enjoy brotha. The differences of upgrading probably are going to be on the marginal side. 🫡
W switch box crumple zone taking the brunt of the abuse
yeah i'm liking them for sure. after hand lubing them all and bag lubing the springs they are pretty nice.
Yey, cat
“If you’re not gonna open these I will”
Food
i was one of the lucky few that got an acutal box. which is good cause i got the module with the lube kit and everything else. it could have been a giant disaster
#🌟│wooting80he message Wish I was that lucky 
Watch the keyboard be damaged now 
Happy another NA native has been spared the barbaric nature of the fulfillment centers
yeah i was thrilled when i never got an email apology and then i saw the box
Your box was pristine?
silent HE switch when??
Soon
Jade Ultra
Name would slap if it was ultra low priced
The board actually feels and sounds so good god damn
ok jade pro max
Gateron should collab to make the first Glutinous sticky rice switch
Then it’ll atleast be accurate
Should called the Jade Shadow
To be fair, Gateron is a lot better to work with than Adomax

20 more days before novemba
We've been with Gateron longer than Adomax at this point I think?
And unlike them, Gateron actually appears invested in improving HE switch technology.
There was a point where we were specifically not confirming this information publicly. I'm not sure if that's still the case, so I'll play it safe and not do so.
tease
anyone got any reccs or preferences in regard to the feet angles
leaks pls
Tja
You know the drill. Catch Calder in a weak moment on stream.
Not my department

Gateron is literally trying to sue some manus
Poor Calder getting targeted by everyone 🤣
He only has himself to blame for that reputation to be fair.
That’s fair
its not really leaking, its actually a cleverly disguised marketing strategy
make the people aware of your next thing while retaining plausible deniability
If you dig around and ask folks privately you can make some fairly educated guesses on who the manu is for a lot of the oem switches
is there a way to setup profiles for this keyboard that automatically switch based on which game i'm playing? Similar to what synapse does? I love how sensitive these keys are until i'm tabbed out of a game and trying to type in discord and getting so many typos :P
Not at the moment - at least not without third party tools.
hi can i change my shipping address after order? smh shopify change my address when ordering
https://hub.wooting.io/my/account
If it hasn't been packed and shipped yet, yes
Access and edit your orders, connect your discord, and manage your Wooting account.
Also Shopify didn't change your address - Your express checkout did.
Might want to update your Apple/Google info 😄
it not even on my order web yet, but i have a confirm email though
anyone know a profile for r6 for the 80 ???
It's just black sorcery. Adjust your actuation and rapid trigger till it feels good, then test other values and compare.
fair enough
Do we have anything to detect how much buttons are pressed when hand is in resting position?
What
grain gold
Well I mean accidental presses that is
Wootility
Oh it has that feature?
I don't think so? Sounds very counterproductive
Mine came in a box I got lucky
How so?
You can see how far the furthest press is
I just meant something you could use initially to determine how much your accidentally pressing a key and so u can increase the actuation point a tiny bit above it
Imagine boxes is a luxury item 😅
Yes.
you can get visual feedback on rapid trigger reset threshold
use the RT display rgb effect
is it better to have the actuation on 0.1?
Those of you who have tried Gateron Magnetic Jade switches with 80HE, is the total Total Travel: 3.5±0.2mm noticeably shorter feeling than Lekker with 4mm?

Ah okkk thx
You made it sound like you wanted an active system that would detect "idle" key pushing, from resting your hand on the keys - which would be a great way to get really weird actual input inconsistency when using it actively 😄
GUYSSSS i can use normal cherry keycaps on the keyboard right?
Oh no haha my bad was a terrible explanation
even the cerakeys
looks like they ran out of huge bags and had to put yours in a box 
Also any chance we get 2k and 4k polling 👀
So lucky 😭
great loot
Enjoy
W NA shipping 🔥
I am guessing praise Geon in some way?
Who did you contact for such immaculate boxes
I have my contacts within wooting 😂
seriously
Actually no
Legendario is secretly EU in disguise
NA would never ship something so perfect
😂
yea who handled your package?
meh i see some problems tho
I'm just lucky, this was an early birthday present from wooting
UPS
igor*
wut .... how is that possible
Impossible
It's true
burn him at the stake .... WITCH!
no
Lmao
k you need to buy a lottery ticket ASAP and dont forget about me when you win
You’ll get a free wrist rest if you’re lucky
Haha for sho
I just want a taste --- 0.5% ?
Time to gamble 🤑
$0.05
Sure broski
should I contact wooting support about my tracking number stopped updating and now no longer has a ETA after passing the first one?
Nope
Anyone know the ETA from response for support?
it take a little bit for tracking to update
depends on the issue?
Spacebar 'sticks' when pressed somewhat firmly
its been 80 miles away for the past 4 days? it shouldint take longer then 1 day
I live over 20 hours away by car from where my package was at in Compton, CA and tracking did not update for 4 days after the first depature scan
@midnight iron mr geon can i ask u a question
on the day of delivery it sudenly updated to out for delivery without any acceptance or transit scans along the way
if i wanna change the spring on the geons where am i supposed to buy it?
ok but its about to be 2 days after it said it would be delivered
I guess thats the cost savings for Econ shipping?
and its only 1.5hr away
mine is like 5 min drive away from me, been stuck since 5th, so you're good
By the time support responses your ticket, batch 2 probably shipped out already
double check here then
https://help.wooting.io/article/83-possible-problems-during-shipping-with-solutions
This is an overview article of all of the potential problems that can occur with shipments, along with Wooting's policies for resolving them. The moment is fina
Any he springs work
mhhhh
are the 40g ones strong enough for the cerakeys?
Geon sells pingless he springs himself too, but you can use other he springs as well
not the spacebar I'll handle that differently
aren't they 3.6 mm? idk
Hrm 40g I don’t know, those are really light
i wanna use the l60 on the spacebar
and if i see that it's fucked i switch the spring
You can fit other length springs into a switch, so they don’t actually have to all be same length. Just needs to be non magnetic and large enough to fit around the he stem properly
For example ttc sells the same switch with 3 different length choices for springs as one of their features
its barely enough to hold up pbtfans spacebar
or without a lot of accidental actuations
I haven’t tried, but I would assume wootings springs probably work fine in the raw he too
can anynone confirm
its a lot harder compared to something like the 60he iirc from what others had said here
FUUUCK
i could also just be an idiot
bro I don't wanna replace all the springs hell nah
dw u can't be dumber than me
i had to set my spacebar actuation to 2.5 (it was 1.2 like every other key before that)
that's good news
the lightest touch would actuate the key
no no the spacebar is not an issue
like i will use the l60 on it
and if it has some problems I'll change replace the sping to a 100 one
im scared t break it
it's like my ex
how heavy are the alpha keys?
it can't let go
im serious 😭
idk but everyone in the cerakey space says it doesn't matter
they just say that a 45g switch is the bare minimum for the spacebar but above 55 is suggested
yeah the starting force required is 27.0 grams (raw 40g)
I believe the technique is to start north to south and you have to wiggle it a bit for it to come off
With enough force
i think someone mentioned here before the cerakey spacebar is almost 20 grams
Raw 50 spring on the left, v2s 45 on the right
Identical inner and outer diameters as well
i might just be a weak bo that doesent go o ym
If Hipyo can remove switches so can you
have you tried taking the pcb out first?
ye it's pretty heavy
I’m just sayin 
it doesrnt makr sense
i think i moght break the kryboard
brobrobrobro i wanna get them
If you don’t feel safe removing it from the default way, an easier method is to take the keyboard apart and take out the PCB where you can remove the switches a lot easier
so bad
great advice
You shouldn’t break the board, but you would break the switch if you go too hard
The wait for my x-ray set is killing me
lmao
Still like 2.5+ months out 😭
i am gonna order the cerakeys already i am a maniac
i still don't know what colour to get
2 and 1/2????
Daaaayum
i cant because i dislike how cerakeys look xd
Blank white ones
ughhh bro idk what colour
w the black zinc case?
Oh, probably the black then?
Get someone to make Cerakey cosmos caps
lol
why is this guy spitting only?
doesent sound easier
I wonder how good a black x-ray would look
idkk the dark blue ones are also good
black automotive car paint with flake 
Wooting has some videos how you would take apart the case, it’s not very complicated if you follow the video guide. It’s either that or risk breaking a few switches
Cerakey is the world’s first keycap set made of full ceramic, achieving a next level silky-smooth and thockiest typing experience with enhanced backlit that offers peak RGB show like no other. The alumina ceramic applied ensures excellent wear and impact resistance and cool to touch. Compatible with Cherry MX switches.
Those are your only two real options for switch removal
Opal flakes would be fire
Indigo looks good
they all do
So does the purple
I thought they cost like $250.
Yo you could low key recreate the night sky with cerakeys if you get the right colors
I prop mistaken it for a more expensive keycaps
nah full set is max max 150 w shipping
well UPS just told me its lost
u can some people in the discord probably did it
@dim quartz this is the winner
😭
yeah, still less than gmk I've spent on
there ur just paying for the art work😭
here i am paying for spring problems
If the green is darker, might get
what if i buy 2 sets (like A and B) and i do something like that
i am too stupid for it tho
Idk you gotta take the L and start from somewhere sometimes, changing springs shouldn’t take too long if you do really want ceras
Full car shock in every key
Would be expensive
Red and Indigo looks perfect to me. Both of other blue option is an almost.
no no set a and b
a on the left and b on the right
Fire
u can buy it also like that
Would look so good on black cases
Kinda jealous ngl
i will order them and change only the spacebar if there is problems
I'm so excited to see x-ray on my tofu build
BRO FUCKING HELL
am spending too much on this
am gonna ask my accountant
Coward
Somethings are worth doing right 🙏🏻
Assume you have infinite money 
End result is gonna be dope af
I think that means yes
You should start your own cerakey GB @dim quartz
YES
i am gonna make a huge one
and scam everybody
RAMA Works taking notes
I assume getting a replacement 80HE is going to take a while right?
Might get Cerakeys if I get bored with my gmk
I got 20 dollar drop skylights
New year new keycaps
I wish the valiants were in stock
i am their CEO
u can buy my set hhahaga
WHERE MY LAZURITE ARTISAN KEYCAPS AT YOU DEVIL 
I was very sad when RAMA scammed the artisans but I’ve made my peace with something more expensive and cool
Gimme context
Gemstone artisan keycaps is what I moved onto
i want this sticker
Or unless you mean what happened to them
this one
Does anyone know what Batch EU-Bij is? I used to be in Kampioen 🤔
bro idkkk

So I tried to scour the web for the brass gold artisan keycaps for my 2021 GMK set and you literally cannot find them anywhere online. So I tried to ask around and someone in here @ed me and said that RAMA scammed the artisan caps for lazurite with all the other ones and never delivered them
So nobody ever got theirs
am gonna buy them
w black case tho
will they look good?
What are you buying?
Oh right, yeah I dig the black alpha side keys and navy main keys
I think they’ll look great esp if you can do cool RGB effects to simulate stars
Or do like an aurora effect
judging from this, looks good to me
It is a good sticker isn't it
😻😻
It was also my idea so I’m a little biased
who sent u that
Or partially
its on their product page for this color of cerakeys
oh lol I'm clueless
It’s what you just linked the Black side keys and the navy blue alpha middle keys
idk what i read
😭
i think i will order them
and I'll spend some time thinking about how much i love wasting my money
don't worry, I experienced the same when I realized I've spent as much on upgrade to the point I can get a second 80he
If you like it and aren’t going into debt for it is what matters
My copium is I get 3% cash back on all online purchases, so w/e I buy is discounted
I just need to become a millionaire
i worked all summer and spent my money on nothing
anyone got the issue when u spam ur backspace, the keystrokes kinda stack and then all go at once or smth? idk its kinda odd
sure glad am not overspending on this thing
maybe it's ur pc?
did u rule that out
it started happening with my wooting
Don’t have to go crazy with it, but it’s fun seeing a deeply customized Wooting in the wild
did u try 1k polling
Adds a lot of flair and personality to it
there's tons of them
Biggest worry naow is 80he arriving at my doorstep
do u happen to know where the polling setting is in wootility
nvm found it
Big true, I think I’m gonna pull the trigger on my artisan this afternoon
kinda curious how many 60HE users in this discord has done some sort of modification to it vs using it stock
changing it to 1k fixed it, tyty
waow, artisan, I think that is what left before my 80he is fully decked out
It’s more expensive than I want to spend on an artisan, but it’s real gemstones so I’m willing to leave that at the door. It’s too perfect 😢
does it work now?
cuz that sometimes (rare cases) can cause problems
As long as you're happy
I’ll be very happy once it’s all together
It’s technically all my rewards free $ is paying for it
Waow






