🌟│wooting80he

[sullen sand]

Somewhere around there

[heavy badge]

I'd like to know when I'll be able to use the Wootility V5. Does anyone know?

[buoyant solstice]

It'll be released together with the 80HE

[heavy badge]

wow,thanks

[dark perch]

I decided to buy a pre-assembly

thx

I'm going to use it while comparing it with the raw he switch

[halcyon flint]

what tool we need

[upbeat berry]

a screwdriver for 5 screws

pretty sure its ph1

[lone bronze]

sounds like it'll be a long guide

[upbeat berry]

yes a whole like 8 steps or so if you split it up somewhat granular

[silk hedge]

I dont get it

Are gold plated springs expensive?

[upbeat berry]

no

it also does nothing for sound and would mainly be corrosion resistance

[lone bronze]

its like making a RGB sandwich

I mean - they do look pretty but not for that price

[upbeat berry]

its like gold plated cables (that arent analog audio cables)

[silk hedge]

They are hella expensive and there isnt even a review

[errant torrent]

the 80he has 84 keys right?

[atomic brook]

layout matters

[upbeat berry]

4 less than a default TKL in the chosen layout

[sullen sand]

Probably because they are on pre-order and no one has them yet 😂

[pseudo parrot]

84 for ansi
85 for ISO
88 for jis

[errant torrent]

oh yea true layout differences

[pseudo parrot]

the 90 pack is sufficient to cover all variants

[silk hedge]

Yes but from gateron themselves

[errant torrent]

okay good to know, thanks to yall

[sullen sand]

I don't think it's ethical to review your own product 😂

[silk hedge]

Well maybe not review but atleast make a video on how they sound

[atomic brook]

if only

that would be nice

https://youtu.be/ruiwKUdKLWc?si=dIDA23gf37I0-Yz2

something like this but for the 80he 👀

[red heart]

that is for 80he

[atomic brook]

[rotund gust]

yeah def feels like some snake oil on those jade max. hopefully they got some soundtests coming out soon so we can hear that "HiFi sound" 🙈 if not, ill probably grab the geons next week

[lone bronze]

hope it sounds like pink floyd, then i'd buy them

[sullen sand]

I'm hoping maybe some afrobeats or reggaeton

[icy cosmos]

Imagine that, and still get a 16bit upscale 😂

[agile crown]

same here :D

[tough flower]

im broke

can anyone give me an approximate dimensions of 80he case

im think i gonna make a wood and resin case

[oak jungle]

fr?

or you just kidding

[pseudo parrot]

wooting will release case files for the 80he. im not exactly sure when unfortunately

can keep an eye on their github: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

[zealous oak]

Dimensions are on the wooting page

[atomic brook]

not enough to make a case tho

[tough flower]

real

wood is cheap

but woot is not so

[cobalt prairie]

wooting when

wen na champion

[lime falcon]

#📦│batch_updates

[zealous oak]

I know, but he was looking for approximate dimensions, maybe he figures out margins with the pcb or something, don't know

[oak jungle]

5 Sep and the mass prodution didn't started yet

[worn compass]

Have some patience brother, trust the estimated shipping date

Wont come later but we know the chance of it coming a bit earlier

Kinda jealous of the people who may receive their boards by the end of this month

[oak jungle]

we hope so

[oak jungle]

yeah the waited for long

[sullen sand]

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

[worn compass]

Im happy for you, proud that you trusted in the patience

[worn compass]

Theirs rumors of mass production happening next week or mid september but those are just rumors. Ik they’ll do it sometime in September just idk when

[sand epoch]

First time in a month or so I've checked this discord, thank you for being the bearer of good news 🙏

[worn compass]

If you’re a founder you may be lucky enough to be one of those people

Wait nvm

You are, it took like a whole minute to make your name blue

[oak jungle]

LOL

[sullen sand]

pretty sure he just clicked the button 😂

[worn compass]

Discord is buggy

Ohh

[sand epoch]

No it's not discord legit just noticed that I had no roles on here, checked my Wooting account and refreshed the discord connection

[oak jungle]

it's burn we need the second step as fast as possible

[sand epoch]

Didn't realize it would update that quick haha

[sand epoch]

Precisely

[zealous oak]

Approx T-25 days

[sand epoch]

Cant wait to swap this set to the white zinc 80he im hoping its gonna be heat

[zealous oak]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-mister-bean-misterbean-bean-gif-11816131504161738503

[zealous oak]

That's a cool one

[sand epoch]

The novelty cap is so sick

[zealous oak]

It's clever

[worldly pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-money-money-spread-gif-13948996750885415592

[fervent scarab]

bottle cap that looks great

where to find?

[zealous oak]

@thick lichen what is your preferred case if you can answer, zinc or PCR?

[thick lichen]

I prefer Zinc alloy myself. Sound is a bit brighter and less muted then the PCR.
But you got to keep in mind that the zinc cases are of course painted, so scratches do appear more easily on those so you have to be more careful. Whereas with the PCR cases you have to be less careful.

[red heart]

just buy both and go akimbo

[thick lichen]

ayoooo

[zealous oak]

Thanks for the answer

I bought raw zinc so... no paint but it can be scratched anyway

[bright jewel]

Omg the soju cap

[zealous oak]

Raw Zinc with Geon Raw HE. Full Raw build for me

[spring oar]

Raw

[thick lichen]

True. But I think paint scratches more quickly then raw zinc.

[sand epoch]

I dunno, I bought it in a group buy 2 or 3 years ago, set is called epbt soju

[sand epoch]

The novelties are super cute too

[fallen epoch]

Friends :)

[red heart]

My keycaps came in

I think i‘ll use these on my 80he

[coarse crest]

We could have a scratch test video idea between zinc paint/zinc raw and PCR 👀

[lime falcon]

zinc 80he drop test

[spring oar]

Just hope Linus drop it

[lone bronze]

i dont think hes getting one haha

[low token]

He would break his finger

[vestal sage]

mine is in mid novemeber, u cant complain

[agile crown]

first / second batch?

[vestal sage]

second

[agile crown]

that explains why it's pushed to november :/

[vestal sage]

i hope they get more production factories ngl

cause dis is kinda slow

[restive bay]

they dont own any factory

[vestal sage]

ik

i meant like they should get more factories to produce em imo

cause if the waiting times were shorter, Wooting could be a lot more hyped

[hearty sky]

Looks good

[restive bay]

not that smart honestly

[vestal sage]

cause more ppl get the product

[restive bay]

if they had a chip problem and thats what caused the delay

[toxic zephyr]

yeah that's a bad take

[restive bay]

imagine doing the same with another company

[vestal sage]

hmm

[midnight iron]

getting 2 factories is like when a new mmorpg launches and they open 50 new servers because they got a rush of new users

then 2 months later they have to shut down 40 of them

[vestal sage]

yeah

[restive bay]

well, in this case for first batches is not a bad idea but the reality is quite different

[wind tiger]

that is a very good way to get QC issues

[restive bay]

what is complete non sense for me is this full stop working between batches

[toxic zephyr]

yeah there's so many issues with this it'd take me an entire day to list half of the downsides

[midnight iron]

??

[restive bay]

they are doing another stuff instead of keep producing the keyboards

[midnight iron]

what? no they're not lol

[restive bay]

second batch mass production have not started yet

[wind tiger]

factories sell slots, also they are not stopping making boards

[midnight iron]

they have factory bookings already set

[wind tiger]

they just ship them in batches

[vestal sage]

why havent they started?

2nd batch

[restive bay]

thats why Im saying, they are doing work for another company instead of wooting

first and second batch mass production should be nonstop

[toxic zephyr]

they don't own the factory oh my god

[midnight iron]

again - they do not own the factory lol

[toxic zephyr]

stop talking out of your asses when you don't know anything jesus christ

[restive bay]

even tho they dont own the factory they can arrange it that way

[toxic zephyr]

🧠

[restive bay]

yeah I already stated that to another user

[midnight iron]

do you think they aren't already trying to batch it as quick as they can?

[vestal sage]

true

[restive bay]

after you release first and second batch you can stop for a while to do another stuff for another company

[midnight iron]

i swear some of the takes are like living in a magical dreamland where you snap you fingers and instantly do insanely complicated and expensive awful ideas and it somehow works

[restive bay]

not because Im EU-Brug aka second batch

[toxic zephyr]

man if only companies were run by teenagers sitting in their gaming chairs

we'd have no problems with anything ever

[restive bay]

but because having a delay for chip issues and having another delay on top of it because of the mass production makes non sense

[wind tiger]

I feel like I should add that basically nobody in the peripherals market does

[midnight iron]

by batch 3 they'll be likely caught up in orders anyway, unless there's some new snaptap 2.0 drama that pushes it back up again

[restive bay]

couldnt they produce the mass production of the other company while wooting tryed to figured out the issues with the chip in the first place?

[wind tiger]

it's just waaaaayy too large of an investment for not that many benefits and a whole lot of downsides

[restive bay]

Im boss at logistic at my company btw

[tight swallow]

do you want to pay the other company whos production slot you need to take away to make the keyboards asap?

[toxic zephyr]

I'm sure you are

[restive bay]

so I dont know what teenager bs you are talking about

[tight swallow]

oh boy

[midnight iron]

you always say this but then suggest absurd fixes that make nosense lol

[north egret]

🍿

[wind tiger]

logistics is a different thing than renting production slots

[restive bay]

wooting book batch 1 and batch2, wooting have a chip issue making a forced stop in the mean time, the company produce another booking from another company while wooting tries to solve the chip issue

[tight swallow]

I fear for your company

[restive bay]

batch 1 and batch 2 are produce one after another

[tight swallow]

although it probably isnt true XD

[wind tiger]

nah, it is just that there are things that don't overlap between the industries

[buoyant solstice]

Booking an entirely different factory with no familiarity with our products within a months notice sure sounds like an excellent way to ensure new problems appear everywhere.

[restive bay]

absolutely, thats why I said it has to be from the same company

[wind tiger]

basically, also you will have massive batch variance etc

[tight swallow]

yesn't, total obliviousness should still not be a thing

[toxic zephyr]

now hear me out, what if the "other bookings" can't be moved because of stuff dependent on the other companies

[buoyant solstice]

So now we're conjuring up entirely new factories?

[toxic zephyr]

just a thought

[midnight iron]

i make tea sometimes every day at about 9:20am in the morning, so trust me I know what I'm talking about when it comes to factory bookings

[restive bay]

could be the case

[wind tiger]

yea but switching now will create new delays, which can easily take like 3 months until everything is ironed out

[vestal sage]

is batch 1 finished?

produced

[midnight iron]

yeah it's literally on the way to their warehouses already

[vestal sage]

has the 2nd batch begun production

why not

[toxic zephyr]

we just explained this

[midnight iron]

because they have set factory booking dates

[restive bay]

Im only saying batch 1 and batch 2 should be done by the same factory without delays in between because of bookings from another company

[vestal sage]

where

[midnight iron]

how though?

[vestal sage]

i dont see it, yall were just arguing about a 2nd factory

[toxic zephyr]

where it said "slots for production are booked months in advance"

[restive bay]

Im sure that if companies like wooting could take advantage and release a product sooner than expected, they would do it

[vestal sage]

hm ok

[midnight iron]

how do you magically snap your fingers and make this happen lol

[vestal sage]

by someone else?

[buoyant solstice]

It is not our factory. We can't just expect a company we work with to shift other people's reserved dates around because of an issue we have with ours.

[toxic zephyr]

no shit, so.... by your logic, they couldn't take advantage and do it sooner

they are making it happen as fast as possible, so what's your point

[midnight iron]

just saying wooting should do things doesn't help at all because you don't solve all the issues stopping them from doing it

[restive bay]

just saying, if the schedule is ok they could have done it

[buoyant solstice]

And clearly it isn't, or they would have done so...

[restive bay]

since I dont have the info I cannot tell like 100% its bad on wooting side or any side whatsoever

[tribal scroll]

That's like saying a concert should be held at an earlier date because the venue staff are always there

[restive bay]

totally get it

[tight swallow]

wooting should have already made my late batch two keyboard and shipped it to me then XD, just do the thing

[midnight iron]

Let me give me super wise take too: Wooting should make tons of keyboards right now and have full instock for every product

alright wooting, your job to figure that all out now, i did my part

[toxic zephyr]

you're thinking small, they should have all varieties of keyboards available in all colors, stocked in local warehouses in all countries so there's no importing and low shipping fees and times

[midnight iron]

everyone knows that coming up with these wise takes is the hard part of any problem

[restive bay]

it feels bad having a chip issue, having a delay because of it since its normal and then another one between batches because of bookings

[tight swallow]

ah yes and case varieties in all shapes and colors mass produced ofc

[restive bay]

https://tenor.com/view/aoi-todo-crying-todou-jujutsu-gif-20070466

[tight swallow]

oh..

[buoyant solstice]

Batch 2 (and 3) have not been affected by the chip shorting issue.

[tight swallow]

idea overlap XD

[buoyant solstice]

And that's the end of that really.

[midnight iron]

actually you guys are right. Wooting would sell more keyboards if they controlled teleportation magic to save on shipping

get on the teleportation magic train

[vestal sage]

when does production for batch 2 start

[tight swallow]

there is a batch 3 already?

[restive bay]

my stimate arrival have been changed from early October to mid November, are you saying that batch2 is not affected by the chip shorting issue?

[midnight iron]

yeah some sku are on batch 3 like the japan format boards

looking at how their stock is going, by end of the year they should be instock 80he though, unless christmas rush is absurd

since they have a whole 3rd batch incoming by end of the year

[buoyant solstice]

That's the trouble - You say something is in stock, and suddenly there's a bunch of people who have been holding off to order, who will be fulfilling the prophecy

[midnight iron]

i can't wait for some new drama to randomly bump wooting into a giant sales period again

[spring oar]

It'll be fun to see ngl

[clever tinsel]

True

[tight swallow]

never say it is in stock, just make a ever moving short estimate

[tribal scroll]

Since batch 1 is shipping, are reviewers getting their sample from that batch?

[tight swallow]

and they wouldnt really have the issue if they just made worse keyboards

[buoyant solstice]

No. They're receiving PVT* samples.

Essentially a test production before Batch 1. Boards are already on their way to them.

[thick lichen]

PVT samples*

[lone bronze]

HPV?

[tribal scroll]

Ah ok, is there a certain date for reviews like an embargo date?

[buoyant solstice]

Right. So many acronyms 😄

[buoyant solstice]

18th?

[thick lichen]

September 18th 4PM CEST

So by that time there would probably be a couple of reviewers publishing their video 🙂

[tribal scroll]

Ooh thanks, I'll be waiting for them

[restive bay]

Batch 2 delays should be the new name

sadge

[worldly pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262839617246199808/1263861433028841593/op4m1PQ-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif

dont jinx anything

[restive bay]

has already happened 😄

[bright jewel]

I hate finding @s on mobile

[restive bay]

first one chip issue delay 1 and a half month later and now another one because of the factory

[midnight iron]

? That’s the same delay

[tribal scroll]

lol what

2nd batch hasn't even started, how can you call it a delay

[midnight iron]

he’s just impatient and venting

[restive bay]

stating facts

[pseudo parrot]

right. it displays the right person on my phone for a split second then suddenly changes to another lol

[tribal scroll]

I get it, people are so used to Amazon speed that they forget that things move slowly

[bright jewel]

It’s just gets lost in the void

Oh well

[restive bay]

you are talking to a guy who lives in Canary Island and every order I receive is +3 weeks later than in Spain Mainland

Honestly its the first time I spend 450€ on a product to receive it 4-5 months later

[midnight iron]

Wait till 2 weeks from now when stock is in warehouse but not shipped yet

[restive bay]

with delays for faulty chips or production difficulties which is logic to happen

but this is ggs

[tribal scroll]

First time? Keyboard GBs could take 1-2 years back then

[midnight iron]

Every batch goes crazy with folks freaking out over daily estimate moving at that warehouse stage

That’s when people always start their where is my order spam

[restive bay]

yeah and Internet back then was 100mb at most, playing with 130 ms

its 2024 my G

[tight swallow]

first time mass production of new products can be a bit complicated and have "fun" surprises

[tribal scroll]

I don't even know how to reply to that, it's just showing so much ignorance to production processes

[wind tiger]

only when stuff fails

I had one that took over a year and that had massive issues with the factory

[restive bay]

seems like a good experience

[wind tiger]

worst part is that I didn't even want it by the time I got it

since my taste changed

[restive bay]

obviously

[wind tiger]

eh

there are boards that I would have ordered 2 years ago and still would like a lot if I only got them now

[oak jungle]

you still using 2he?

[wind tiger]

nope

didn't even have a 2he to begin with, I had the old 2

which I gave to a friend

[icy cosmos]

Change it back by reviewing old reviews and posts 😌

[wind tiger]

?

like I said there are good old boards, "good" (to me) custom boards have not changed that much since like 10 years ago

it's just that I don't like 65% anymore

[icy cosmos]

So what’s your favourite now?

[wind tiger]

F1 probably

[icy cosmos]

And what made you wanting a 65% in the first place?

[wind tiger]

budget tbh

60 didn't seem useable to me, but I ended up preferring 60 over 65

[wind tiger]

got an OG one, that ran in 2020

[icy cosmos]

So you didn’t try out the different layouts before you made your purchase?

[tight swallow]

I would sooner get a membrane for budget reasons than a 60-65

[wind tiger]

I did actually

but good TKL customs were expensive back then

the vega was kinda cheap in comparison

[icy cosmos]

What did you do with your 65% keyboard?

[wind tiger]

sold it

even worse, they straight up sent me the wrong unit and then wrong replacement parts for that unit

[icy cosmos]

Ok, then it was a love adventure with a happy ending

[wind tiger]

yea I made like a 20€ loss total

and the one I sold it to had it for like 2 months max

[wind tiger]

fulfilment of that GB was horrible btw, they started shipping in like 6 batches instead of one, and the first batch was right before CNY, so it spread across like 4 or 5 months total

• they had massive delays so on average you got it like a year after the estimated shipping time

[icy cosmos]

Well then this must be heaven compared to that chaos?

I guess the class: Buy what you like and not what you can afford. Still stands today

[wind tiger]

I still liked 65% back then, it looks ugly to me now

[bronze zinc]

How long will the cable be for the 80HE? I got the Drunkdeer A75 and the cable that came with it, is way too short, not sure exactly the length.,. 1.5m is my guess.

[thick lichen]

Believe it was 2 meters

[bronze zinc]

Perfect. I need that extra 0.5m

[thick lichen]

Yes it is 2 meter

[summer urchin]

Oeh the expected date was pulled forward for my order ^^

23 sept - 2 oct

[hearty sky]

you can also check these details on the website itself.

[lone bronze]

i need a 4 meter one due to here my pc is - any reason i can't still use the one i have?

[bronze zinc]

Or, I could ask here as I was busy doing something and simply get the answer quickly, all while you could mind your own business 🙂

[hearty sky]

Damn 💀

[bronze zinc]

I forgive you, don't worry ❤️

[hearty sky]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-meme-public-weird-gif-26930365

[zealous oak]

Imagine receiving that answer for trying to tell him where he could find the specs lol

[fleet forge]

imagine wasting other peoples time out of laziness and then telling them to mind their own business

[bronze zinc]

You people are sad, for real.

[hearty sky]

i was thinking the same thing tbh bro 😂

[bronze zinc]

Guess that's why you spent all of your time on Discord. gl

[zealous oak]

You are here right now writing stupid comments like that

[fleet forge]

this guys hilarious

[hearty sky]

Another triggered kid .. barking for no reason at all

[bronze zinc]

I'm 31, you however.. seems a lot younger, if not by age, then definitely by mental.

[hearty sky]

anyone asked ?

[bronze zinc]

Try to mind your own business in the future and improve those insecurities, I don't care for them. Enough said, not reading more of your garbage. Game time, gl

[fleet forge]

i think he mistyped 13 years old

[zealous oak]

Definitely

[hearty sky]

[pastel edge]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gaming-gaming-time-gif-4085326369239683126

[coarse crest]

Bruh 💀💀

That gif is perfect, I’m crying rn

[zealous oak]

Dude said he had no time for discord and answered literally 3s after the comment

[hearty sky]

Dude is probably looking for a reply RN.

[tight swallow]

I do love it when people list their age or years of experience while being childish or clueless, it just makes it worse

[snow canyon]

💀

[oak jungle]

either way we will live once no one cares that much

[bronze zinc]

Mmm

You people are just pathetic.

I asked a simple friendly question, got an answer from Wooting themselves and that was that... then out of nowhere people start acting out.

I'm in the right, you people are in the wrong, I don't care.. it's that simple. Improve yourselves, for real. It's pathetic loser behavior and I don't care for it.

Herd mentality at its finest. Now the herd can mock and joke and act out, pad each other on the back etc. etc. I won't be reading it, I'm off for the day. Enjoy your group activity.

[buoyant solstice]

Actually as I read it, someone pointed out that the information you needed was right there on the product page, and implied that you should consider not being lazy.

Of course after that point this entire thing started to detail and people went nuts

So...move on people?

[bronze zinc]

And calling people lazy isn't toxic? Especially when they don't know shit about someone. But I agree, move on, as said, gotta go

[buoyant solstice]

No, not really.

[glacial wedge]

All of this because of a cable length. Funny how drama can happen from anything

[tight swallow]

the topic rarely matters 😄

[pastel edge]

me typing on my 80he in approximately a month

[obsidian girder]

real

[tight swallow]

bold of you to assume it 100% wont get lost in shipping

[minor vigil]

evergreen 2.0

ah but that doesnt concern us right?

[worldly pebble]

I'm getting mine in January no matter what happens

so I can wait

[oak jungle]

we are hungry for mass production 0_0

[worldly pebble]

on a diff topic tho do we have any news on the knob project? or that's all gonna be coming after release

[snow canyon]

[midnight iron]

Nothing besides the community chosen naming schemes for the upcoming knob and secret switch projects

[worldly pebble]

ah yes the secret switches with 0.0mm actuation

uses brain signals to actuate keyboard before you even think about it

[oak jungle]

no we need 0.01mm switches

0.1mm got high latency not that good for gaming

[worldly pebble]

0.01 is insane

rip if you live near sea level

[near birch]

Question:
I saw that people say that zinc alloy sounds clacky and pcr is thocky, what about the 60HE stock? Which does it falls under

[worldly pebble]

gravity itself is gonna trigger your switch

[oak jungle]

stock is plastic

[lone bronze]

as it should

[buoyant solstice]

Would be similar. Plastic vs Metal

[oak jungle]

LOL

[spring oar]

Become magneto

[near birch]

So i would assume it will sound similar to the 80’s plastic sound?

[oak jungle]

nah not that bad LOL

[lone bronze]

I am in a blender on valo right now - need this keeb to hurry

[near birch]

So you’re saying 80 sound worse? 🤣

[zealous oak]

Sander uploaded a video a few days ago comparing stock wooting 60he switches vs lekker v2

So that would make you an idea if you like it or not

[oak jungle]

NO NO

[zealous oak]

@pseudo parrot what was that?

I saw it something interesting for a second

[tight swallow]

a leak!

[zealous oak]

I don't know but maybe lol

[upper garden]

when is wooting announcing the flip keyboard?

[merry grotto]

where wooting painters tape in the shop? 😄

[zealous oak]

Huge difference in sound with painters tape vs none

[oak jungle]

mass production leak?

nice finally

[upper garden]

lmfao he deleted that

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[upper garden]

when are you upgrading your 80he to cyberpunk quack 2077?

https://tenor.com/view/duck-cyberpunk2077-gif-19527853

[zealous oak]

So maybe it was actually a leak

[upper garden]

someone is up to no quacking good

https://tenor.com/view/detective-daffy-investigate-police-looney-tunes-gif-17130539

[buoyant solstice]

[zealous oak]

We will be good and won't tell anybody

[tight swallow]

well the page is still up, ghost does look nice

could have chosen a less cheesy postcard

[upper garden]

send the link please i dont wanna look for it😭

[analog jungle]

I hope next plan for a keyboard which will be revolutionary is a wireless one

That should be their next big upgrade, Something lower latency than all other wireless keyboards

[bright jewel]

But the nice cables tho

[hidden crest]

nah

[upper garden]

yeah one that folds too like the android phones

[hidden crest]

LOL

[upper garden]

20% foldable keyboard

[oak jungle]

wireless keyboard kinda pointless

[worldly pebble]

wait what did I miss

[upper garden]

thats why you gotta add the fold to it @oak jungle

[tight swallow]

no link 😄 just in case it might have been removed for reason other than shenanigans(99% likely)

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/why-isnt-it-posssible-its-just-not-american-psycho-gif-26353597

[tight swallow]

also this does amuse me too

but you can find it easily

[tight cypress]

Not kinda pointless, just pointless
If you need a keyboard which will work on several devices, then just get some non-RGB membrane or mechanical one, with low power draw so that it lasts longer, and with possiblity to bind to multiple receivers so you can swap between them easily
Unlike mice, wireless gaming keyboard is absolutely pointless

[upper garden]

what if you add the fold into the mix?

[coarse crest]

Wireless keyboards are a pain if you want any RGB bc then you’ll be recharging it every 1-2 days which is cringe af

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/flip5-samsung-flip-flip-phone-but-here's-the-flipper-flipper-gif-1143688642334044268

[dreamy sedge]

how much more power do hall effect boards eat?

[tight cypress]

Why, I believe you'd fold quite nicely

[tight swallow]

this one about as much power as usb 2.0 can provide, I think, likely less with no rgb

at least if you go full on max polling and tachyon

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/l-lawliet-death-note-stare-eyes-anime-gif-17559982

Are you kira? thats something kira would say. Theres no way kira would be in this server at this current time as a discord moderator. Unless thats what kira wants us to think

[tight cypress]

I would absolutely kill it as Kira

https://tenor.com/view/type-typewriter-words-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-gif-9206386

[fallen epoch]

Would Kira play muse dash?

[buoyant solstice]

What is a kira, and why does it drive a bike?

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-gif-10020115

i completely forgot they put that bike into cyberpunk 2077. Another reason why cyberpunk 2077 is da best🦆

is there any plans in the future for wooting to do a collab with another company for themed cases or keycaps?

[tight swallow]

ghost keycaps kthanks

[rugged pasture]

So seems the date of delivery got brought forward for EU-Kampioen for me is 25th Sept to 10th Oct. Which is great. But I won't be able to take delivery until the 27th. Should I place the order on hold or will it be okay Ive ordered the module and the keyboard disassembled and i think they're shipping smaller orders first.

[buoyant solstice]

We're very busy with the Optimum Collab atm.

But if a studio or something reaches out with a serious offer, I don't think we're going to say no upfront.

[buoyant solstice]

Put it on hold just in case.

You don't want this to be you.

Always better to delay shipping than risk it getting lost.

[rugged pasture]

Okay thanks. How quickly does it ship once I take it off hold.

[rugged pasture]

But I want it now!

[buoyant solstice]

As soon as possible. It'll be added to the shipping queue on the same day it's unheld.

[rugged pasture]

Amazing thanks

[valid comet]

morning wootgang

[pseudo parrot]

morning aero

[analog jungle]

Still something cool that could be done

[valid comet]

how are you guys

[zealous oak]

Fine and you?

[valid comet]

got my switches and cables :O

Lekker v2 L45 and L60 with cable kits

[zealous oak]

So you must be happy

[valid comet]

yep

[upper garden]

alright sounds awesome thanks for the reply

[analog jungle]

Would you do a collab with brazzers?

[upper garden]

bruh

[valid comet]

No longer October 1-14 :O

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-excited-excited-monkey-monkey-noises-excited-monkey-noises-gif-23721513

[analog jungle]

goku whats the most you've ever lifted?

[upbeat berry]

scholar are still trying to figure out how much goku can lift

might be good to get the man himself to answer it

[spring oar]

I'm excited to see how 80he handle tachyon

[snow canyon]

What did I miss 😭

[upbeat berry]

nothing

[nocturne kettle]

my order was september then october now November like huh?????

[upper garden]

depends, how much you weigh?

[analog jungle]

Damn @nocturne kettle What batch you in boy

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-weight-dragon-ball-z-punch-gif-14442301

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-pushups-goku-gif-11726458

[analog jungle]

Tony I asked a question earlier, you think we will ever see a Brazzers collab

Maybe like a year subscription with a keyboard purchase or something?

[nocturne kettle]

Im sure second but i had a issue and wooting wanted to confirm my order and they stopped it and i think my batch got swapped

[oak jungle]

and we still on the same stage pre produciton

5 Sep

[nocturne kettle]

nah I got swapped to late november

for no reason

[oak jungle]

there was alot of delays we went from Sep to mid nov now

that's okay sheat happens

but we need the mass production now 😦

[worn compass]

Still no news on batch 2 mass production other than rumors that say “maybe next week”

[oak jungle]

we hope freaking so

we need this I'll lick my screen if this happened

[spring oar]

aight bet

[nova nexus]

Hooters and Wooters would be better

[coarse crest]

Full sized Wooters keyboard when 😏

[digital spindle]

this is somehow going to turn into people saying the black and yellow keycaps remind them of the "hub" again

[coarse crest]

I wonder if it’s due to Factory booking dates that was discussed earlier

[worn compass]

Dont really care much about production dates as long as delivery is before december

[nova nexus]

Mass production is ongoing (it takes many weeks if you include the SMT process and water resistance coating) but the stage won't progress until we have a confirmed ready date when full assembly for all units will be completed

[worn compass]

Very good info to know :D
Thank you

[coarse crest]

Thanks Mark!

[prisma basin]

too expensive

[acoustic arch]

Hey, is the 80he compatible with any other 3rd party case?

[upbeat berry]

as the keyboard isnt release yet no

[acoustic arch]

Thank you! 🙏

[coarse crest]

I’d guesstimate we’ll probably see 3rd party cases sometime in 2025

[acoustic arch]

I like a lot the style of the alumase60 case, more than the zinc for the 80he

[coarse crest]

I think once the 2nd batch gets shipped out, by EoY the case spec data will be released for 3rd party cases. Since the 80HE has a more unique design than standard TKLs it could take some additional time, but hopefully since it’s had a craze of popularity they could come sooner

[buoyant solstice]

The plan is to release it after the first batch is out.

[glacial wedge]

wake me up when september ends

[fleet forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-me-up-when-september-ends-gif-18645420

[analog jungle]

So when is the new wootility out? What is the expected date since it's when 80he's are delivered correct? And that is for earliest region?

[coarse crest]

W

[buoyant solstice]

We'll send out an announcement with pings.

[fleet forge]

well all orders which are going out rn are still preorders that are slated to arrive in peoples hands mid november

[buoyant solstice]

Late September/Early October*

[fleet forge]

batch 2..

[open torrent]

how long does it take for payment verifications to be done and get my order off hold?

[fleet forge]

wait does batch 2 not count as preorders?

[buoyant solstice]

I fail to see the relevance of batch 2 to the question you replied to?

"When is Wootility V5 out?"
When Batch 1 starts shipping out.

[restive bay]

mass production will be in two weeks

[buoyant solstice]

Typically a couple of business days, provided you've replied to the email with the information we requested from you.

[restive bay]

next week is package and delivery for batch1

[fleet forge]

oooh i misread. i thought they meant when the 80he counts as official you just order and its in stock kinda thing

[open torrent]

yea ive sent them back the information but its been like 4-5 days now

[restive bay]

they will double check the addresses and so on, so we as second batch will have to wait until september 16 to see the beginning of the mass production

so depending on your country and this "delay" that was expected by them the moment they book the batches

the date is "stimate"

reality is you will have your product by the end of November, early December

if you live like me in Gran Canaria (Canary Island) it will be mid December

it could be that instead of 16 of September they start the mass production even later, at 23 or 30, depending on how they mass produce whatever the hell they are doing

[loud citrus]

The boat looks cool 👍

[restive bay]

Mass production have not stopped? Chips and so on are still being produced?

I honestly doubt it

[nova nexus]

Okay

[restive bay]

so the production still going and not updated in the website

[nova nexus]

Did you read the message you quoted?

[restive bay]

I was replying to the guy who deleted the message

[dark cargo]

Guys less then 4 weeks left

[restive bay]

and yeah, I have done it. I have been posting here since early morning and people were commenting that since its not your company, they are dealing with another batch for another corporation

which means batch2 have not started yet

[dark cargo]

Does the USA get sea freight because of how far it is or because of the quantity being sent

[nova nexus]

Quantity and weight

And the relative difference in time it takes between air and sea

[buoyant solstice]

Planes (and ships) don't leave every day. And their timetables have slots for cheaper and more expensive dates. So it's a balancing act - at least iirc 😄

[nova nexus]

About half the cost of a small house to ship like 25% faster

[buoyant solstice]

[marsh canopy]

[restive bay]

not worth, specially since at least second batch will arrive in November, December date and every courier company will have massive delays anyways

so shipping fast means nothing

[nova nexus]

US will start getting into peak season around the time the second batch is ready to ship to customers. Thankfully that's only really a thing in the US

This is already factored into delivery estimates, but will be continuously monitored

[restive bay]

Same for Spain, its the standar

[nova nexus]

No, it's much less impactful in Europe

Not 0 impact, but not as crazy as in the US

[icy cosmos]

If you’re baller, there’s always “UPS”next day air. It has never let me down

[icy cosmos]

Doesn’t hurt to have to options for those who can afford. 😂

[dark cargo]

Is there that option

For wooting

[icy cosmos]

Not from Wooting because it’s very expensive 😅

But it’s possible

[gloomy moon]

Can't they cook up w a better delivery courier

UPS is known to be globally shit they charge prices like crazy at your home country

[nova nexus]

We used to offer the option to pay extra to transit via air freight but many people didn't understand it and it added significant complexity to the logistics process

[gloomy moon]

I'm surprised nobody has pointed this out

They have really bad reviews like 1.3 star on average most countries

[nova nexus]

There's no shipping company with good ratings anywhere

[gloomy moon]

Really?

That's disappointing to hear

[nova nexus]

Nobody rates their parcel carrier unless they fuck up

[coarse gulch]

Can confirm lol

[icy cosmos]

Competition is key. DHL and FedEx offer similar services too in some countries

[nova nexus]

And they all fuck up lol

[icy cosmos]

Amen

[quiet lynx]

Amazon delivery is peak

they basically monitor those guys 24/7

[dark cargo]

How much did that cost

[coarse gulch]

Just think about it, which would you rate better between DHL Fedex and UPS?

Literally none

[pure sparrow]

DHL in Germany is bis

[nova nexus]

Someone posted a news article recently about an Amazon delivery driver who was driving drunk on a sidewalk with a hand written piece of paper saying they were allowed

[coarse gulch]

LMAO

[nova nexus]

I don't know if that was satire but I'd believe it

[dark cargo]

Amazon always gives the best service

[icy cosmos]

Depending on country, I have best experience in Europe with UPS. In Asia it’s DHL. Shipping stuff from USA to Europe its FedEx

[coarse gulch]

I've had dogshit experiences with all of them in EU

And decent experiences too tbf

[dark cargo]

Amazon same day delivery

[coarse gulch]

They're all the same to me besides at what time the courrier comes by my home usually

[icy cosmos]

Do you have a corporate account?

[coarse gulch]

Negative, I'm on the receiving end 99.9% of times (but I've had quite a large number of shipments)

[low token]

I never had problem with dhl in eu. Dpd is just slow as fuck

[icy cosmos]

Then you’re at the lowest tier.

[nova nexus]

They're all staffed by people who make mistakes, with managers where some are good and some are crap, in regions with another later of potential incompetence

[coarse gulch]

Which is fair to assume almost every single wooting customer also is, so with this context, my experience fits pretty well lol

[storm geyser]

We had some specific drivers that were causing problems. They’d just drive by and not even stop - „nobody home“

But outside of that DHL has been pretty decent for me too

[coarse gulch]

This is absolutely normal in my European country

Even Amazon used to do it, then they started first-strike firing for it

Literally our statal postal service does this too lol

[icy cosmos]

Understandable. I do think with more technology advancement. It will aid the end point drivers to do a better job. It’s still up to the management to hire good people and pay them a reasonable salary.

[low token]

Do you have package pickup box?

Because we have them for very long and even most shithole villages have them

[storm geyser]

No, they’re just brought to the closest post office for pickup at that point

[coarse gulch]

exactly this

[storm geyser]

Though it’s all apartments around here

[coarse gulch]

Where I live they try twice, most of the time the first time is a "whoops nobody home eheheh" while they do actually try the 2nd time around. If both fail, you need to move your ass and go to the closest postal office

Which means that your shipments are always 1-2 days late and if it ever so happens that you fail to receive it legitimately once, you need to walk to your closest postal office and wait for absurd lines of elderly people xd

[low token]

That's so backwards

[storm geyser]

If you’re in an apartment with nice neighbors on the first floor here they’ll usually ask them to take it and leave a note in your mailbox saying they did, but if you’re the one living on the first floor they’re not gonna make that effort lol

[icy cosmos]

I got an app for UPS/ DHL I can schedule a delivery beforehand

[coarse gulch]

I have the DHL one too but not the UPS one

I think UPS doesn't offer that service here

Because they rely on the local statal postal service

[icy cosmos]

Ah bummer

I see

[low token]

What country you live in so you do not have pickup points

[storm geyser]

Germany

[low token]

Explains a lot

[coarse gulch]

I'm in another central EU country that I prefer not to share, but it seems pretty normal for EU from what I gather

[dark cargo]

If the ship is expected to be there at sept 16 why does it take an extra 2-3 weeks to deliver?

[low token]

So Poland is only so convinient

[low token]

Because they are not saying exact date

[dark cargo]

The ship website?

Or wooting

[storm geyser]

It depends on what’s in your order most likely. If it’s just the keyboard and nothing else it probably won’t take that long. Apart from that they also need to account for things out of their control to some extend in their estimates

[low token]

Wooting website

[storm geyser]

Even if they send out hundreds of packages each day it might still take a while to get to yours too, just from the sheer volume of orders

[mossy isle]

Wait so for the netherlands the wooting 80 releases early?

[storm geyser]

No, you’re just the closest to ship to

[buoyant solstice]

A few days earlier than c ountries further away? Sure.

But yeah that's just down to shipping distance and time.

Warehouse typically picks and ships in an outgoing pattern.

[meager sigil]

takes time to get the ship in port, offload the container, customs, transportation to distribution, and then for distribution to get around to shipping the orders

[buoyant solstice]

First NL and the rest of Benelux, then outwards from there.

[dark cargo]

Is there a possibility that the estimated date could be earlier than expected for the USA

[meager sigil]

probably

idk what order they’re shipping in, but assuming all goes correctly there’ll be orders shipped prior to the estimated time

[dark cargo]

September 16th, + 2 days customs then warehouse Las Vegas maybe 3 days then expired shipping for me 2-3 days and delivery so September 25th is best case scenario?

Expedited

[meager sigil]

something like that

dont expect it that early though

the october window is still the most reasonable assumption

[dark cargo]

Yes

I was saying best case scenario if the ship website is accurate and don’t get chosen for additional customs

[radiant anvil]

mybe next time unlink the twitch channel if u want to hide your informtion 😛 (italino pure io btw)

[storm geyser]

That’s a best case including a lot of luck

[dark cargo]

Even better scenario? The ship comes earlier :0 (impossible)

[tight swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-ship-sinking-mjc-gif-19519348

[keen sand]

I'm on bruges

Can't wait

[supple ember]

if im lucky and my order arrives at the earliest time possible i still have to wait 20 days

[restive bay]

Any plans on releasing the 60he+ with 8k polling rate?

[ornate pike]

^60he+ pro max ultra titan Ti XTX

[onyx spoke]

any plans on the 80he with 16k polling rate?

[spring oar]

add Super and you'll be complete

[viral tendon]

any plans on the 80he with 16k polling rate with an attachable 4k monitor

[rancid ridge]

any plans on the 60he with arrow keys?

[ornate pike]

60he+ super pro max ultra titan AI XTX X3D

[spring oar]

... slightly off the mark but close enough

[oak jungle]

nice the second batch mass production is ongoing good news

[keen sand]

I mean arrow keys are something but I can see the idea of a wooting keypad like the ||razer|| tartarus with a full analogue thumb stick being pretty successful

I guess its just compatibility though

[oak jungle]

@restive bay why you laughing 😦

[keen sand]

Nodoubt they've thought about it

[restive bay]

production ongoing and not updated in the website

[minor prism]

next up wooting mouse with built in aim assist xDD

[restive bay]

probably canceling the 80he and ordering the 60he on stock

[oak jungle]

he say that they are testing stuff like water resisting and other stuff

[restive bay]

why suffer?

[restive bay]

same with first batch

[keen sand]

Gaming chair with ai player when?

[oak jungle]

human nature is suffer that's okay

[minor prism]

60he doesnt have new switches?

[restive bay]

v2 are available in the website

so you can order a 60he+ with the new switches

[minor prism]

well nvidia only went ai route so tm soon

[oak jungle]

you ordered the 80he ?

[restive bay]

yes sir

but why suffering, probably buying the 60he on stock and then upgrading later on if needed

right now I dont need F keys or Arrows, just wanted to have it to return to WoW in the near future

but for now Im good with the 60he version

[oak jungle]

nah I hate this layout 60he I got cheap 20$ amazon keyboard is more than enough till I get my 80he

[minor prism]

just sold my Death Note keyboard so this 8-he better be worth it

[oak jungle]

isn't hard to play mmo with 60% keyboard ?

[restive bay]

yeah but Im not playing any mmo now

only shooters which 60he suits me perfectly fine

anyone knows how many days they can return the money to your bank account once 80he order is cancel?

[oak jungle]

if you play only shooter games or singular player games yeah 60 is enough

[restive bay]

yeah, better to get the 60he

and then if I upgrade it in the future, who cares if it arrives 1 year later like the founders

[oak jungle]

two weeks maybe more

[restive bay]

maybe 80he comes faster than the return then damn

[minor prism]

if you want 60he than you have option to get it even faster as they selling troughout marketplaces already

[oak jungle]

yeah just wait for it

coz you will not need any upgrades

with gasket mount the keyboard feel soft

[restive bay]

I mean, the sound of the PCR ABS thock is insanely good on the 80he

[oak jungle]

don't cancel you order days goes by super fast

[restive bay]

thats the only thing holding me back

[oak jungle]

yeah and the gasket mount for me

[gusty shore]

is it worth to order the zinc alloy for the 80he? or stay with plastic. any sound diff, and which is better?

[atomic brook]

which batch are you?

[gusty shore]

I pre-ordered on the first day, so it's supposed to come in october

[atomic brook]

just stay with whatever you bought

try it out

[gusty shore]

Right, I could always upgrade later, cuz they will sell them seperatly?

[atomic brook]

they are rn

[gusty shore]

alright cool. thanks

[restive bay]

pcr abs sounds insanely good, have a nice THOCK sound, zinc is for a brighter sound signature

I recommend you the PCR ABS, wont suffer from scratches and have better sound overall

[gusty shore]

cool, ty!

[zealous oak]

Oh I remember your respect the coin comment on me, I did actually

😂

[atomic brook]

[jade widget]

It's all personal preference really, although I'm of the mind that Zinc will be more customizable depending on foam etc - plastic is always going to have that "hollow" sound

[atomic brook]

the brightness of the zinc is always nice to have

it can always be muted but you can't really get it by modding the plastic

[restive bay]

the brightness sound is worst for me

it cost way less and its better overall for the long run

was impressed by the sound honestly, didnt expect it

[upper garden]

you sold the keycaps too?

[minor prism]

yup but u can get them from aliexpress izy

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-man-sad-emotional-funny-lol-gif-16439471

[winter crane]

Does anyone know which batch is the EU-Brug? 2nd? 3rd? or even later?

[zealous oak]

Second

[winter crane]

Second batch and it takes 2 months to arrive from now

[slow tapir]

what ever happened to our name on the website lol

[atomic brook]

it's on the website

[slow tapir]

am i drunk

[atomic brook]

[slow tapir]

Where lol

[atomic brook]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he/wooting-80he-founders

[clear swallow]

Got a new job so treated myself to some nice keycaps!

[obsidian girder]

siuuu

[clear swallow]

Some nice ghost caps to compliment my ghost case

[atomic brook]

[humble oyster]

It's been a day

[marsh grotto]

wdw

[humble oyster]

Someone needs to make an HE deej knob so we can actually have physical volume control

[unborn wadi]

Im going to kill myself if This keyboard doesnt arrive

[humble oyster]

huh

ok maybe the desperation is getting real

[unborn wadi]

I cant do it anymore

STOLRIKJFAUIOWDFHUIOAWHNCIOUASNEOC

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-marvel-rage-antihero-gif-11732259

[glacial wedge]

That's not an 80he tho

[humble oyster]

It's for the 80he

[atomic brook]

what defines whether something is an 80he or not?

[worldly stream]

its the name of a keyboard

but i suppose it be a 80% hull effect keyboard

[atomic brook]

so if i cut the numpad out of a 100% razer huntsman

[worldly stream]

yes

[atomic brook]

is it a 80he?

[worldly stream]

i guess so

have fun fabricating a new case for it and making the motherboard work after trimming it

[atomic brook]

god no

not spending money on that lmao

[worldly stream]

XD

not worth it aint even hot swap just make it hotswap

honestly i wonder if anyone has tried modding the hell out of a razer keyboard making it custom with fab work

and improving the factory switches

[sullen sand]

Of course they have

[tough flower]

you can lubs switches

change the caps

[worldly stream]

i meant modding the pcb as well

and making it have quality mods done

to sound better

[worldly stream]

find me a vid i wanna see

[sullen sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DutdUUQn5I8

[tough flower]

more than that and it would require some knowledge about pcb

[worldly stream]

true

[tough flower]

oh and razer never open-sourced their pcb

[worldly stream]

you would need to know what to cut and relocate

[worldly stream]

figures

[tough flower]

what kind of mod are trying to do

[sullen sand]

Don't think many people are into modding PCBs

[worldly stream]

not me lol

im just curious what has been done

[sullen sand]

People mod all sorts of keyboards

Even keyboards from the 1980s

[worldly stream]

can a razer keyboard have new switches soldered on

[sullen sand]

So of course a Razer keyboard has been modded

[worldly stream]

i mean none razer switches

[sullen sand]

Likely, yes

[tough flower]

yes and no

[worldly stream]

hmm

[tough flower]

you could soldered it, but would it work better than the provided one

[worldly stream]

razer switches on there own are good

what isnt good is everything else around them imo

[sullen sand]

News to me

[worldly stream]

at least i thought??

[sullen sand]

What's good about them?

[tough flower]

like alexotos said, if you could not maintain it in the long run, just make it open-sourced so that communities could make parts out of it

[worldly stream]

idk the switch feels good to me

but i also never touched anything beyond razer so idk

[atomic brook]

wait

define feels good

[sullen sand]

Then there's no reference point to compare it to anything 😅

[atomic brook]

this sounds like a person who has always used tactile

[worldly stream]

smooth ?

i hate those

[atomic brook]

and feels linear for the first time

[sullen sand]

All big brand keyboards like Razer use awful, mass produced, cheap switches

With horrible sound

[worldly stream]

oh

[atomic brook]

thats not razer being good lmao

thats just it being a linear switch

[worldly stream]

the wooting 80he is my first nice keyboard

[atomic brook]

some people like linear(smooth) others like tactile(bump)

[tough flower]

Planned obsolescence

[sullen sand]

I mean the lekkers aren't going to blow you away I'm sure but there are literally hundreds of mechanical switches out there that are that are nice

[worldly stream]

what i dont like is how i paid 200 for my bw elite back then

[tough flower]

but their mouses are much better these days

[worldly stream]

when a wooting he costs the same and is way better like wa

[frozen osprey]

any estimated optimum release date

[atomic brook]

the collab?

[frozen osprey]

yea

[atomic brook]

this year

[frozen osprey]

nice

[tough flower]

im really into tactile, love the bump on the switches

[atomic brook]

if optimium would stop being a perfectionist

if this keeps up we will get it 2034

[tough flower]

unfortunately no HE switches could ever do that

[sullen sand]

Your big brands like Razer and Logitech charge extortionate amounts for nothing special in their keyboards... the custom keyboard scene is changing that and they are improving things but they still are nowhere near good build quality

[worldly stream]

so wooting isnt good build quality?

[sullen sand]

Wooting isn't a big brand

[worldly stream]

sorry?

[tough flower]

yep

[sullen sand]

It's a small company of like... 10s of people

[atomic brook]

yup

[tough flower]

that true

[sullen sand]

Whereas Razer has like 1,000s of employees

[worldly stream]

so does that mean bad quality?

[tough flower]

no

[worldly stream]

or is that other way around

[unborn wadi]

neither

[atomic brook]

brudda read twice

[unborn wadi]

just means they produce more products

[tough flower]

quality does not scale with how big a company is

[worldly stream]

im sorry lol im tired

[tough flower]

a small one could make quality stuff

[sullen sand]

Quality tends to drop off the bigger the company 😅 But not always

But for the most part it does

[worldly stream]

i see well then

[unborn wadi]

BANANAN

[tough flower]

a big one can too, but it is hard to do so due to a lots of factors

[unborn wadi]

I AM BANANA

[worldly stream]

is wooting good quality then at least idk on build quality

[unborn wadi]

IF KEYBOARD DOESNT COME SOON I WILL BANANa

[worldly stream]

not much for long term reviews i could find

[sullen sand]

Razer do try to innovate and stuff, they aren't the worst.... but they have been selling keyboards that are $200+ for 10+ years that are worth maybe $30

[atomic brook]

🍴

[unborn wadi]

ask a discord that isnt the Wooting Discord 😭

[coarse gulch]

It's not really that, the problem is you're comparing a company that makes laptops, mice, keyboards, headsets, chairs, desks and probably fucking flying cars soon to other companies that do only one thing: keyboards.

[worldly stream]

why?

[atomic brook]

biased

[unborn wadi]

obviously we gon say wooting is good quality its subconcious bias

[worldly stream]

well i mean thats good enough if yall have no issues

[unborn wadi]

Ive invested in this product meaning I am going to favor it over other things even if I dont mean to, just how we work. Do your own research

[atomic brook]

wooting is the only discord that says its biased

[worldly stream]

but what i wanna know more on is how long one has been used without issues of parts failing

[umbral shadow]

why is there a channel for the 80he but not 60he?

[unborn wadi]

I personally beleive wooting has some top notch quality. But they are not the best value. There are better value products out there that have hall effect switches

[coarse gulch]

And tbf. sometimes being the absolute tech giant is favorable because you can just BURN R&D money, see Razer/Logitech mice completely dominating the scene for example

[atomic brook]

there can be, but thats what the 4 year warrenty is for

[sullen sand]

The 60HE had a channel... when it was a new product... now it's just general

[umbral shadow]

ohhh okay fairs

[tough flower]

when you are small and you trying to get customers to buy your products, you have to make it good so that people could gain some faith. Once you have that, you gained enough marketshare then you could decide to bloodsucking consumers

[worldly stream]

4 year warranty to me implies quality

vs razer 1 year

[atomic brook]

yea usually

[unborn wadi]

answered your own question?

[worldly stream]

they wouldnt include that long of a warranty if they dont expect quality right?

[unborn wadi]

No

[worldly stream]

sigh

[sullen sand]

It's good quality, better than Razer keyboards that's for sure... but I mean Razer are pumping out millions of units so they cut as many corners as possible to please their shareholders

[unborn wadi]

all these questions youve answered in your head

[atomic brook]

oh ya

razer and logi is publicly traded

[unborn wadi]

are you looking for renforcement for your purchase or whats goin on

[atomic brook]

so ya theres that

[unborn wadi]

cuz ill do that

[worldly stream]

ima be real for a shit keyboard my black widow elite still goes on 5 years but is starting to feel like shit the stabs are not well being stabs as much on some and the control key feels sorta crunchy

like spring is shot

[unborn wadi]

Banana

[atomic brook]

if you want full longevity

like full full

get the 60he

[worldly stream]

i already pre ordered the 80he XD

[atomic brook]

repairs and mods are so easy

[sullen sand]

The spacebar must sound fun 😂

[atomic brook]

it will be fine probably

[worldly stream]

it sounds fine for me

[atomic brook]

maybe a bit harder to find some parts to replace

[worldly stream]

if led dies

[atomic brook]

like 10 years down the line

[worldly stream]

i wont be mad because it doesnt stop function

[sullen sand]

The custom keyboard scene has been growing a lot in a short time and bigger companies are taking notice... like your ASUS ROG, they put effort into their mass produced items and deliver a better than "average" quality

[tough flower]

you can get a module and to some simple mods and it would be absolute

[atomic brook]

oh no led is fine, just buy some from wooting

and get a solder

[sullen sand]

Because they are copying the keyboard enthusiasts 🙂 They are learning

[atomic brook]

or ask which led they use

[tough flower]

still getting nowhere with that extreme gamer vibe

[worldly stream]

idk how to do mods lol

[tough flower]

bro that spacebar rattle so bad

[worldly stream]

pressed space bar shift key and control

[sullen sand]

It can be fixed with some lube... lubing stabilisers is a bit finnicky but the results are good

[worldly stream]

uhm

i never lubed mine XD

[sullen sand]

That would be the most important mod I'd suggest for any keyboard

Like you can get away with everything else stock and if the stabs are lubed, the keyboard will sound ok

[worldly stream]

well the 80he should be pre lubed right

[sullen sand]

It will be...

[worldly stream]

so im fine then?

[sullen sand]

But.... hand lubing will ensure it won't have rattle

There's a chance the factory lubing will not remove all rattle

[worldly stream]

i suppose

[coarse gulch]

YIKES that's rough

[worldly stream]

i didnt know my razer sounded that bad

[sullen sand]

The funny thing is the keyboard probably sounded very similar to that when he bought it 😅

[worldly stream]

it sounded good to me

[coarse gulch]

I tought my 9 year old FC750R was problematic, sounds 10 times better than that lol

[tough flower]

leopold board?

[coarse gulch]

Safe to assume it sounds better now because of all the plastic grinding away

[coarse gulch]

Ye, Leopold FC750R Blue Navy

[tough flower]

[worldly stream]

XD

[coarse gulch]

A beauty but a very old one

[sullen sand]

Yeah well in general modding keyboards is a fairly new thing, it's not new new but the scene is kinda.... so a lot of people don't know these things can be done to make the keyboard sound so much better

[worldly stream]

well good thing im replacing it with the wooting so i cant wait to see what a good sounding keyboard will be

[tough flower]

I still keep that one tho, really durable

[worldly stream]

and if i ever replace switches i know how at least as for lube if it drys out ill figure out how to lube them

[coarse gulch]

TBF wooting isn't really known for the best sounding keyboards either, the 60HE had a rough sound profile

[worldly stream]

the stabs i mean

[coarse gulch]

BUT the 80HE sound tests are VERY promising

[worldly stream]

thats why i chose it

[sullen sand]

Yeah hall effect switches don't sound the best that's for sure, it's still developing

[coarse gulch]

After 9 years, I couldn't get rid of it, it's going to become my work keyboard

[sullen sand]

The other mechanical scene has had a much longer time to refine switches

[worldly stream]

wait the wooting one lasted 9 years for you

any maint on it?

[coarse gulch]

nope, I've never owned a woot before the 80HE I'm waiting for

I was talking about my leopold board

[worldly stream]

oh then what did you mention

oh

[sullen sand]

Well to be honest if you want your keyboard in good condition there will always be maintenance required, no matter how good the build quality

[worldly stream]

how often do i relube stabs?

[tough flower]

the growth of it just skyrocketed recently but the implementation of HE has been there for a long time ago. I still got a board from like 20-25 years ago

[sullen sand]

Whenever you hear rattle 😅

[atomic brook]

not often

[sullen sand]

Not often, yeah

[atomic brook]

like twice a week

[worldly stream]

hmm ok

[atomic brook]

[worldly stream]

that is

thats a lie and you know it

lube doesnt dry out for years XD

i just dont know how many

[sullen sand]

Yeah, the future is looking good for it anyway

[worldly stream]

so if i had to mod the 80he what is it i add?

if i keep factory switches ofc

[atomic brook]

anything

[humble oyster]

not even daily? slacking

[worldly stream]

i uh

i dont know if it needs anything tbh

[atomic brook]

down the line it could

[worldly stream]

sounds way cleaner then i expected if anything a zinc case would be a upgrade for later

[atomic brook]

new better stabs, nice keycaps

[sullen sand]

The basics for keyboard modding are stabilisers and switches, lubing, then you move forward from that

[atomic brook]

anything is a mod

[worldly stream]

so when stabs act up upgrade them to higher end variants that screw in?

[tough flower]

just wait and you would see some tutorials online on what to mod

[atomic brook]

i mean ffs taping a keyboard is one of the most effective mod

[worldly stream]

it already has that mod XD

[atomic brook]

i might remove it

[worldly stream]

why?

[sullen sand]

Yeah, those will come unlubed so you'll have some fun modding as you have to put them together also

[atomic brook]

i like rawer sounds

[worldly stream]

ah

[atomic brook]

the silicone already damps it too much

for me

[worldly stream]

unlubed lubing is fine for me i watch a tut i should be ok but i just screw them in no?

or is it a lot of work to get to the screw to the stabs

[sullen sand]

I'll be switching my switches to RAWs, changing the stabilisers then probably leaving it at that until I get bored 😂

[worldly stream]

are raws that much better then lekker v2?

[sullen sand]

Yeah, it's not rocket science assembling and lubing stabilisers that's for sure

[humble oyster]

I ordered l45s but also raws

[tough flower]

My only wet dream is that Wooting make a HE numpad separately