🌟│wooting80he

[winter wedge]

ohh bet, just waiting for them to have an updated reply, during my first inquiry, they thought i was trying to change my shipping address haha... 😅

[quiet pawn]

I'll bet on that

how much you puttin down

[void thistle]

for my 80HE it says Mid November, i guess its fine if it comes until christmas, even though I feel like I'm currently at an disadvantage without Hall Effect, Rappid Trigger or features like snap tap/socd

[quiet pawn]

You're not at any disadvantage than anyone else

I feel like you should get good now before you get a HE board

[void thistle]

why do people that have it claim than that they could never go back to an normal mechanical keyboard? Because mine doesn't do any of that stuff. It would help definitely, or what is the selling point of an wooting then at all?

[quiet pawn]

It can definitely raise your skill ceiling, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's "needed"

[nova nexus]

If you run at extremely sensitive settings, your inputs are both much faster and require a different kind of muscle memory to execute them

[worn compass]

Nah, ik for sure it’s gonna get delayed

If we don’t get another trailer by the end of the year we’re cooked

[dense ridge]

Mark, why the delivery time remains the same if there is no problem with IC parts?

[nova nexus]

The update answers that

[dense ridge]

It dosnt to be honest 🙂

[worn compass]

They have a whole video explaining why

[nova nexus]

If you want more operational context, read the next paragraph under that

[worn compass]

Yo that’s what I’m saying

That’s exactly what I’m trying to do

I’m grinding val comp with my shitty membrane

Ik the wooting won’t make me better

[worn compass]

For sure

It’s like the difference between monitor refresh rates

Know lotta people who are cracked at games but still play on 60-120hz

[lime falcon]

mechanical keyboards are dead for me after getting wooting

check your settings

[worn compass]

Wooting is still a mechanical keyboard, just think you meant normal mechanical keyboards are dead to you lmao

[lime falcon]

ah you dont have wooting, misread sorry

[lime falcon]

wooting isnt mechanical keyboard

[worn compass]

Sadly

[worn compass]

Oh I see

[jade widget]

[worn compass]

Mb

[lime falcon]

that doesnt sound right to me

[jade widget]

welp it is 🤷‍♂️

mechanical keyboard just means there is an individual spring and switch for each key

[dense ridge]

so they are not producing 80he's now right? they are producing 60he and other products from different brands? otherwhise the production stop was like 1 week or something and delay is like 2 month

[granite robin]

no they are producing them rn

or at least im pretty sure they are

new video dropped showing production

[dark cargo]

They’re redoing the process so it takes time

[buoyant solstice]

We are not producing 80HE's right now.

The mass production takes about 2 days and change

[dense ridge]

2 weeks to checking the produced keyboards... 1 week stop for checking the issue.. its even not 1 month in total. The delay is like 2 month xD

ah so thats what i was asking so not 80he production right now

i see

[buoyant solstice]

The delay is not about production throughput. It is about knowing exactly what we needed to change, and get a new timeslot with the factory to do mass production

[dapper anchor]

the factory does work for other companies... so if there's issue adding work to Wooting pile of stuff to do I guess it needs to slug it out with whatever else the factory has committed to

[dense ridge]

yeah i see so the problem is the timeslot.. we lost our place in timeslot

[tropic hawk]

All will be fine 🙂

[sturdy tundra]

Brooo! I ordered an two he a week ago. And it still says order placed

[buoyant solstice]

It's a pre-order. Does it matter if it says one thing or another right now? 😄

[sturdy tundra]

I want to enjoy the keyboard before school starts

[buoyant solstice]

Well you knew that wasn't going to happen on checkout.

Unless you start school in November

[sturdy tundra]

I ordered an TWO HE

Buying the 80 when close to launch

[buoyant solstice]

Then what the hell are you doing in the 80HE channel? Git! 😛

[sturdy tundra]

Mb

Where is the TWO HE channel then?

[buoyant solstice]

It's over in #💬│general 🙂

Only the 80HE has a dedicated channel because of the pre-order nature. Lots of questions

[sturdy tundra]

🙃🙂😇

Then an qwestion for 80HE. What is the weight difference between the plastic and aluminum case?

[obsidian girder]

one is plastic, other is aluminium

[buoyant solstice]

About yay much.

[cunning gust]

How much is that in stones

The real measurement of weight

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-ooo-stoning-throw-rock-slippery-slip-gif-20212505

count!

[sturdy tundra]

So about 1.8 difference

[oak jungle]

wow new update nov so sooner than you think

just live your life and you will get your keyboard eventually yeah ?

yesterday was may now look at us it's aug which is insanely fast

[dark cargo]

About 1 big stone and 3 small ones

[cunning gust]

I'm curious what's easier to produce on a manufacturing end, zinc or plastic

[buoyant solstice]

Plastic by far.

We showed it off in today's video.

[cunning gust]

So the difference just isn't material cost, makes sense since zinc is much more expensive, interesting

[wind tiger]

Like per unit cost for a plastic case (just purelynproducing it no logistics, tooling costs or further assembly etc) typically is measured in cents

[timber heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1bJWdA2vMc

Trial Production

[valid comet]

the tour was so cool

[cunning gust]

Yeah the cost is in molds and such for plastic

[sturdy tundra]

Kinda wish they made it an TKL for 80

[valid comet]

im finw with the layout since there are keys i dont use in a TKL

i can put them on FN1

[sturdy tundra]

I do, but I can see most people not using those tho

[timber heath]

I'm on a 75% rn, I kinda prefer the 80he layout

[cunning gust]

I'm with you but this is close enough I will only gripe because it's expensive

[valid comet]

feels just right being in between a 75% and TKL

[cunning gust]

It's an aesthetic complaint not a functional complaint

[sturdy tundra]

I guess

I play war thunder a lot and for tkl setups. I use the top 6 for radar

So just some rebinding I guess

[jade widget]

Depends on the case too cnc polycarbonate ain't cheap

[glossy elbow]

did u log in

[late drum]

In the batch updates channel why dont they include EU-kampioen ?

[buoyant solstice]

Hmm? we do post updates about Kampioen?

[shrewd saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-lies-gif-7285961314818952073

Wooting teams probably the most communicative team out there

[dark cargo]

Can’t wait for day 2

[urban meadow]

Got placed in the second batch of 80he’s , oh well, waiting just makes it more worth it

[dim quartz]

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[dim quartz]

the coping goes crazy

[thick lichen]

SoonTM. In 2 days it'll be there. 😄

[urban meadow]

Welp that’s all I can do 😭

[dark cargo]

👍

[radiant snow]

I ordered the wooting he60, and after seeing a vid on a guy who upgrades it, he says there he lubes it

Imma need to do it too?

Or nah

[buoyant solstice]

Very much a case of personal preference.

[radiant snow]

In what meaning, how it affects

[buoyant solstice]

Just how they feel to push down. Smoothness, to an extend the sound.

[thick lichen]

Switches are smooth out of the box. But lubing can change the sound. So basically if you don't care much about the sound, it isn't really needed to lube them.

Lubing the switches gives it a tad bit deeper/muted sound.

[dark cargo]

It comes factory lubed right?

[bright jewel]

yes

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. And more than what a lot of older videos show.

[nova nexus]

I've lubed one switch in my entire life and that was enough

[buoyant solstice]

We've upped the lube a few times, refining it since the initial launch of the 60HE and L45 switches. The V1.5 switches and V2 switches we ship now are noticeably more smooth in sound and feel compared to my old 60HE Launch keyboard 😄

[thick lichen]

V2's definitely are much better yeah. Haven't tried manually lubing them yet, but out of the box they sound and feel pretty good already.

[cloud jetty]

Hello guys

[icy cosmos]

Good evening

[thick lichen]

heyoo

[cloud jetty]

I have made just enough money to buy a wooting keyboard, am thinking about the 80he+ since i use the f keys, I'm now learning about wooting as a whole and analog switches and the entirety of mechanical keyboards etc, thought id come here to chat

[icy cosmos]

Question 🙋. So the lubricant seems quite thick and gooey. Is the main purpose to minimise the friction and sound from the play between the surfaces within the switches?

[short crow]

I see

[cloud jetty]

Is the 80he still in the works and is not mass produced?

[buoyant solstice]

Correct. 🙂

Will enter MP within the month.

[late drum]

Ou i was talking about the “after production whats next” section

[cloud jetty]

Will they be able to supply the demand or will they just keep releasing in waves with pre orders?

[short crow]

80he still in the works the 60he + the 2he is out and you can buy then straight away

[short crow]

They will always be able to meet demand dont worry

Sometimes stock runns out for a week or two but then it's up and running again

[oak jungle]

100 day left

[short crow]

The wooting 80he is preorder right now

[oak jungle]

we are closing

[cloud jetty]

Im only asking cause I'm thinking about buying it but if i buy it now i pay 220€ and do them have the product for a month and a half where as if they go mas production i take it i could order one at the end of october and get it shipped straight away correct?

[oak jungle]

we will break the 3 digit number tomorrow

[cloud jetty]

What are you referring to?

[oak jungle]

80he

[short crow]

I mean they will fill out orders to the people who has pre orderd first ofcourse

[cloud jetty]

But what about the 80he and 100days?

[short crow]

So you would probably have to wait untill december at the earliest or the beginning of the next year

[oak jungle]

till we get it yeah ?

[short crow]

Untill it shipps out for some people

[oak jungle]

yeah

[buoyant solstice]

Thankfully our checkout is good at providing you with an estimate.

[cloud jetty]

Is it not two months rather than 100days?

[oak jungle]

second batch

[short crow]

Depends when you pre orderd it

[oak jungle]

mid nov

[cloud jetty]

Erm are there so many people wanting them?

[short crow]

Because they want them

[oak jungle]

yeah this keyboard good at everything

[cloud jetty]

I thought if I pre-ordered like tomorrow i would get it by the end of October?

[short crow]

No

[oak jungle]

nope

[cloud jetty]

Oh

[short crow]

Xd

[oak jungle]

mid nov

[buoyant solstice]

Most likely start of November.

[oak jungle]

yeah

[cloud jetty]

What does the expected at warehauses late October mean then

[oak jungle]

if you were lucky obviously

[short crow]

You dont live at the warehouse do you?

[oak jungle]

mean the keyboard will be at their warehouse

[short crow]

If you do then you get your keyboard in october

[cloud jetty]

Shipping is 5 Business days?

[oak jungle]

to be shipped to you sir

[short crow]

Otherwise its shipped to you and then it needs a label adress and shipping stuff

[oak jungle]

no worries worth the wait the only thing in this world worth pre-ordering

other stuff nah

[short crow]

Depends where you live to finland it's like 10 days

[cloud jetty]

Lithuania

[short crow]

Well then around 10

[oak jungle]

or less

[cloud jetty]

Wha

[short crow]

They ship from netherlands

[oak jungle]

depends

[cloud jetty]

Thats close tho

[oak jungle]

yeah

[short crow]

Yes but they need to create a label send it to nethetlands customs and then through lituanian customs that takes time

[oak jungle]

I'm from saudi arabia and I could my stuff early cable and other stuff for the 80he

[short crow]

And 10 days is including weekend for me

[cloud jetty]

Hmmm im slightly confused

[thick lichen]

See mansen answered you. To add, if you manually lube your switches. Make sure to do a thin coating and makes sure you don't see the actual white of the lube.

[cloud jetty]

So wooting 80he goes mass production in late october right? So if i preorder rn i would have to wait for all the people Infront of me to receive their keyboards and only then i would get mine, which might be the month after october?

[short crow]

Which would be november arrived at your door

[cloud jetty]

I see

Does nobody have 80he rn?

[icy cosmos]

No customer have it 😅

[short crow]

Nobody has it except people who work for wooting like @thick lichen you can try to rip the keyboard from his hands

[cloud jetty]

Oh

Okey

[short crow]

Also sanderedk great choice of name your parents gave you

[cloud jetty]

So there won't be any like reviews on yt about it xd

[buoyant solstice]

No no. Much earlier. It takes a month and change to ship everything to the warehouse from the factory.

[icy cosmos]

Just Check out the Wooting YT channel. Lots of videos about the 80HE. Actual physical prototype. Not just rendering 😆

[short crow]

But basically it's at your doorstep in november most likely

[cloud jetty]

The things that are holding me back are the noise, price and the actual experience of using it, like I'm concerned that i maybe won't like it or something, not sure why all my life i used laptops so it might be a big difference

[icy cosmos]

So how do you go about buying things?

[cloud jetty]

Well

I try to do as much research as i can compare things or try and then i take a leap of faith

[short crow]

Well you can always return it and yes it's quite expensive maybe try buying a cheaper 40-50 euro mechanical keyboard to see if you like the feeling of it and then either return it/sell it/gift it to someone and buy the wooting?

[cloud jetty]

Can it really be a bad experience tho, like im convinced that 95%+ should like this keyboard

[jade widget]

[icy cosmos]

Your perception, taste and feel will change the more you use something. Day 1 you… will not be the same after 1 week or a month

[cloud jetty]

So ur saying i will get used to it and i will love it xd?

[icy cosmos]

Research is only what other people want and like not you

[short crow]

Well my opinion and taste is that basically all keyboards are better then those laptop keyboards. But some people who love just typing wont like the wooting keyboard as much as a custom built keyboard with normal mechanical switches for the same price because wooting uses hall effect switches which are insane for gaming and preformence but not the best in the world at typing/sound experience. They are not bad but just not the best sound/feel wise. My opinion ofcourse

That was a bible

[icy cosmos]

I am saying you need to be honest with yourself. Having realistic expectations and learning what you love and want. If you don’t know what you want. Just looking and reading about something until you want it yourself is just you riding the hype train.

[short crow]

What i am saying it's better then your laptop keyboard but we dont know if you will like it or not if you haven't tried other keyboards like this one

[cloud jetty]

Sure, another thing, what will i be able to change about the 80he, i know that i think keycaps are customisable and the switches, but is that all?

[short crow]

Everything

[cloud jetty]

Oh

So can i somehow get an aluminium case then at some point?

[short crow]

Case, switches, keycaps hell if you want you can mess around with the pcb and do crazy stuff like bluetooth (if you are a pro)

Yeaaah that's the beauty with wooting it's a very customizable keyboard

I bought a 3rd party aluminium case for my wooting 60he and new keycaps and new switches

[cloud jetty]

Okey lets discuss this slightly more cause i never owned a keyboard i don't really understand how it works in depth, the keys used in the 80he are analog, which means they have an infrared laser which triggers the activation, so they have no physical contact and have less wear right?

[icy cosmos]

If you don’t like the feel of Hall effect linear switches. Then Wooting is not for you. ( there is no clicking feedback

[short crow]

Yeah and that's the difference with a mechanical keyboard those have a mechanical part to press the key whilst wooting has analog.

[icy cosmos]

Sounds like you got a lots of research ahead of you 😅

[cloud jetty]

So when i want to change the switches for some reason i can only replace them with analog switches or can they be mechanical ones as well?

[short crow]

Yeah i would watch a bunch of wooting reviews and stuff to get to know if you like the sound and stuff

[icy cosmos]

@cloud jetty what are you typing on right now?

[short crow]

They can become mechanical but then you lose the amazing hall effect software wooting has

[cloud jetty]

An android

[short crow]

XDDDDD

[cloud jetty]

Xd

[short crow]

Naaaah man go to sleep @cloud jetty go look up reviews and stuff

Goodnight xd

[icy cosmos]

What are you going use the keyboard for?

[short crow]

Inbefore he says typing 🙂

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[icy cosmos]

Typing what?

[short crow]

Oh my bad!

[buoyant solstice]

They have to be Hall Effect and supported magnet polarity wise. No mechanical switches 🙂

[cloud jetty]

I will use it for everything including typing and gaming, i play mostly Minecraft but thats just the current phase i play rts games and valorant too

[buoyant solstice]

Mechanical switches use copper pins to connect physically with the PCB. Hall Effect switches don't touch the PCB at all. They hover above, and the magnet sensors on the PCB sense how much you push them down.

[icy cosmos]

So what keyboard are you using right now to do that work and gaming?

[short crow]

Oh though using mechanical switches just meant no software adventage

[cloud jetty]

Membrane laptop keyboard

I think

[oak jungle]

pain

[short crow]

Well now i know more :p

[buoyant solstice]

[cloud jetty]

I would prefer an external keyboard since the laptop gets hot sometimes

[icy cosmos]

What do you want to improve by buying a new keyboard? ( rank the most important things)

[thick lichen]

Thanks, same for you. 😄
Parents almost called me Eric, but thankfuly I don't have to clash with Erik

[cloud jetty]

I want to have an external keyboard, then i want it to be fast and look pretty xd

[jade widget]

I think there's still a lot improvements that can be made to HE switches it's pretty early days

[icy cosmos]

What is a pretty keyboard in your eyes 👀

[short crow]

Well goodnight guys remember sleep is important

[jade widget]

Linear switches are super popular in the custom scene anyway

[short crow]

Philosofical i like it

[icy cosmos]

Sweet Dreams

[cloud jetty]

Something with quality material and simple clean design, i think black is fine

[cloud jetty]

Yep gn

[icy cosmos]

Have you seen the 80HE?

[cloud jetty]

I have yes

[icy cosmos]

That the top view

[cloud jetty]

You like the side view more?

[icy cosmos]

I am asking you. How would you rate the look of 80 HE? 1-10

[cloud jetty]

8/10

[icy cosmos]

@cloud jetty Have you seen the 60HE?

[cloud jetty]

I have yes xd

[coarse crest]

As someone that has never tried a HE keyboard and has gone through a bunch of different keyboards (membrane ewaste, Hyperx Alloy Elite, Huntsman V2 TKL and Rog Azoth Moonlight), I have pretty high hopes for the 80HE. I don't believe it will be a bad experience for anyone, unless you pick the wrong switch and want a different feel. Going from a laptop to the 80HE will be very jarring, but I think it will be worth it.

[icy cosmos]

How do you rate that keyboard look between 1-10

[cloud jetty]

7/10?

Maybe higher if its only the looks we are considering

[icy cosmos]

We’re only talking about looks ( design) here

[cloud jetty]

Okey then lets say 80he is 8/10 and 60he is 9/10

[icy cosmos]

I thought so. 60he is more cleaner looking

[cloud jetty]

Indeed it is

[coarse crest]

My recommendation would be to hear all the different switches you can choose and really find one that suits you (Lekker, Jade/WS Dash, Raw HE, Raptor HE) and then build a keyboard that speaks to you and what you want out of it. If the price is a large consideration, then I'd just get one of the prebuilts, but there is something nice about modding your keyboard for you.

[icy cosmos]

So now to the features. The reason why you’re here and not the 60HE channel. It’s because you want the latest and greatest 😆

[cloud jetty]

Thanks for the in depth suggestion, first thing is that i have no way of comparing the sound, its on thing to hear it from a phone speaker and another to actually press it on your table, but im optimistic I'm going to like the keyboard or get used to its greatness

[icy cosmos]

If you don’t have anything to compare to, what you’re getting , will be the greatest 🥳

[coarse crest]

Thats why im super excited everyday that its one day closer to Mid November 🙂

[coarse crest]

You won't know until you get a sample of each type, but hearing it on YT is your best way to try and make an informed choice for your sound profile

[cloud jetty]

Im concerned about the sound, I don't want to annoy People that live in my hause and laptop keyboard are quite quiet, i think if i mod something it will start with the noise reduction

[cloud jetty]

Is this all legit only for sound tho? Cause i care more about the functionality of the keyboard than the sound

[coarse crest]

if you lube the switches yourself instead of using stock, it will mute and dampen the sound. You can also do more modding and add different padding to dampen the sound even more

[icy cosmos]

You have the internet though. I mean how did you even find wooting 🤣. They’re not available at the computer shop

[cloud jetty]

Ofc it would be a negative if the sound was annoying

[crude raptor]

hey guys i bought the 80he module, might be a dumb question but is this hotswap? also does it come inside the case? because it looks like I can't just drop it in the case. im a noob as you can see

[icy cosmos]

You will have to live with it. Because it will sound a lot more than your laptop keyboard

[cloud jetty]

Saw 60he and it looked clean then i just went with the brand and looked for a keyboard with the f keys xd

[buoyant solstice]

All of our keyboards are "hotswap", no soldering.

The 80HE Module means you have to install the PCB into the case you bought, install switches, install keycaps.
We'll provide a video on how to soon.

[coarse crest]

The switches themselves should perform similarly, but its entirely preference based for sound and feel imo. The magic is in the wooting software

[icy cosmos]

Why try hard when you’re noobe like me? Buy the prebuilt

[crude raptor]

okay thanks

[crude raptor]

well, not so much a noob but more like noob in that ive always bought hotswap boards that are already in the case

[cloud jetty]

How often are keyboards needed to be relubed say the 80he or 60he, does the sound dampening fade with usage?

[crude raptor]

also yeah the prebuilt has keycaps i don't want and the zinc alloy raw is only for module it seems

[icy cosmos]

Right, so you have already peaked your head down the rabbit hole 🕳️. Buy the 80HE and begin your keyboard journey.

[buoyant solstice]

Once a decade.

[fallen epoch]

Mansen, do you want to see the mother duck thats nesting outside my house?

[quasi crater]

I rather just buy a new switch pack than lube all the switches if that ever happens, im not lubing 90 switches

[cloud jetty]

Is there a possibility someone might not like the dampened sound feom lubing the switches and would want to revert? If so is that doable?xd

[cloud jetty]

Is that a hard task? I imagined you just like oil some part 90times?

Few hour job for a decade?

[quasi crater]

It just looks annoying to do it haha

[cloud jetty]

Unless the teo hours of your time are worth more than the keyboard dure xdd

[buoyant solstice]

Took me 4...5? hours to lube my 60HE.

Helped to have Netflix going

[cloud jetty]

Damn

[quasi crater]

The switches arent that expensive anyways

[icy cosmos]

The same reason why people don’t do their own service for their cars

[cloud jetty]

I mean i can definitely imagine myself changing oil instead of going to a mechanic to leave 100€ minimum

[icy cosmos]

I imagine myself being a billionaire every night. But when I wake up, I am still a worker bee🤣

[cloud jetty]

Do you guys think the keyboard prices will eventually go down or will they have discounts? Or is this considered a prestige item and the price never goes down?

Not sure of their business model fully

[icy cosmos]

Some premium items are holding their prices. Just like a Rolex watches. There’re plentiful of cheap Casio for you to buy if you want budget

[cloud jetty]

Yeah id like the price to stay if i spend this much

[icy cosmos]

This keyboard is very cheap compared to the expensive ones 😅

[cloud jetty]

What are more expensive ones?

I know razer has some probably could find close to 400€

[upbeat berry]

usually custom builds running around 400-500 euros at the low end

[cloud jetty]

Speced out

[cloud jetty]

Would custom keyboard be only better for experience over functionality?

[upbeat berry]

depends on what you want out of a keyboard

everyone has different needs and preferences

[cloud jetty]

Say speed

Fastest actuation

Not sure what else is there to get an edge

[upbeat berry]

youd want 8khz and the lowest actuation point

as well as being sure the keyboard actually scans at 8khz internally and not just polling at 8khz

[cloud jetty]

Thats a thing too? Damn

[upbeat berry]

every keyboard works by scanning each key x times a second

[cloud jetty]

Oh fr

[upbeat berry]

some just dont have this scanning amount synced with the polling

[cloud jetty]

Thought its like u press x and it send a signal to pc

[cloud jetty]

And i take it wooting does xd

[icy cosmos]

In short, this keyboard should be faster than you’re able to press it

[upbeat berry]

no what happens is you press x and the next time the keyboard MCU scans the key it checks if the key should be active or not depending on all settings made

if its active it gets added to the queue of pressed keys

once a full scan is done a USB packet gets assembled with all data and when the poll comes the packet is read by the PC

then windows acts on what the packet contains

[cloud jetty]

So is wooting 80he then officially the fastest keyboard on the market(soon to be)

[upbeat berry]

its a very big focus of ours to match the polling

[upbeat berry]

well i cant say for certain but at computex we had testers setup and afaik there was only 1 keyboard that got somewhat close to the 80he with testing firmware

(you can see those testers in some youtube videos of computex and our booth)

[cloud jetty]

Sounds good enough to me

[upbeat berry]

i think with the 60he and rapid trigger we sort of shook the industry already as a lot of companies are trying to keep up and get to where we are in terms of firmware options and configuration tooling

[cloud jetty]

How tall is the wooting 80he?

[upbeat berry]

the website should have dimensions listed

[zealous oak]

Funny thing about the estimated delivery is that I will get my 80He around my bday!

[cloud jetty]

I think yall blew up kinda recently, im pretty sure ive only heard about wooting like few months ago, not sure if its just cause this is a new brand or its been silent for a decade

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on what feet you install 🙂

[cloud jetty]

My bday is october 5th xd

[buoyant solstice]

Can go pretty high 😄

[zealous oak]

Nice, mine is 3rd

[cloud jetty]

As low as possible i think

[upbeat berry]

mainly because influencers started mentioning our keyboards in fortnite first and then it just kept growing on its own.

but thats like 2 yrs ago now

[cloud jetty]

No like i was thinking i put my hands on the table and move my mouse worh only wrist so id be writing similarly

So when did your first keyboard come out ?

Like when did wooting come to market

[upbeat berry]

2016? 2017?

one of those 2

[buoyant solstice]

Kickstarter in 2016, delivered in 2017 I think?

[cloud jetty]

Yeah damn, what was the first keyboard

[upbeat berry]

never remember which is KS campaign and which was delivery

see duck knows

[upbeat berry]

wooting one

[cloud jetty]

Y'all don't sell it anymore i suppose

[upbeat berry]

correct

mainly due to it using optical switches which we dont use anymore

[cloud jetty]

This looks almost identical to the 80he xd

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/post/wooting-ones-arrival
Looks like August 2017

[upbeat berry]

only the keylayout since well its tkl but other than that not even close

[cloud jetty]

How much did they cost back then?

[upbeat berry]

130? 140?

[buoyant solstice]

160

[cloud jetty]

Ah so similarly

[buoyant solstice]

200 for the "premium" version which had a second set of switches

Oh sorry. USD*

[cloud jetty]

Where is wooting based at tho?

Country wise

[upbeat berry]

netherlands

[cloud jetty]

Rightt xd

[buoyant solstice]

With a secondary base in Taiwan.
It's where our design and manufacturing team is. Close to China where boards are made 🙂

[low token]

Wasnt first wooting one was created in 2015?

[upbeat berry]

prototyping was before 2016 yes

but the KS launched in 2016

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wooting/the-analog-mechanical-keyboard-for-precise-movemen

[cloud jetty]

Is the company not worried about the geopolitical stuff going on there?

[low token]

So technicly wooting would be around 10yrs on market

[cloud jetty]

Yep

[low token]

[upbeat berry]

8 but rounding up yes

[buoyant solstice]

Worried? Not at the moment. But we are always paying attention to any developments, since it affects us.
But ehhh.... like ALL consumer electronics are made in China.

[cloud jetty]

Can i invest into wooting xd

[low token]

Europe is too Expensive

[upbeat berry]

yes by purchasing products

[cloud jetty]

When ipo xd

[upbeat berry]

funnily enough i had a talk once with erik about this topic of manufacturing in the EU. and yes its too expensive but would be the dream

[low token]

But 60he would be 400€

For pcb

[upbeat berry]

investors in the sense of shareholders always ruins a business

[jade widget]

There's a reason gmk comes at a price 💸

[upbeat berry]

prob the reason why valve is still private

[cloud jetty]

How come?

They set expectations?

[upbeat berry]

because investors want infinite growth usually cause money

[cloud jetty]

Yeeah

[upbeat berry]

and companies cant grow infinitely

[low token]

Valve would go down if gaben dies

[upbeat berry]

i dont think so

[zealous oak]

investors seek for money and doesn't usually care about any other things related to what the companies are focused into

[cloud jetty]

But they can grow extremely big

[wide hare]

they wouldnt go anywhere else bc of that it doesnt effect the overal product

[upbeat berry]

yes but usually if its not going well investors jump ship and then the company can easily crumble. not saying it will but often does

and the gaming industry prob experiences this the most

[low token]

It would

[cloud jetty]

Yeah i see where this is going

[upbeat berry]

where deadlines are imposed by growth and sales expected from shareholders

[cloud jetty]

Hmm

[wide hare]

not really, explain your reasoning

[upbeat berry]

if you wanna discuss the steam gaben thing #🎮│game or #🔌│tech

[low token]

Entire brand Is around gaben

[upbeat berry]

either way wooting is not going to the stock exchange as far as im aware any time soon or ever

[wide hare]

ehhh probably a good thing

[cloud jetty]

So lets say i buy the 80he on release this year, how soon is a new keyboard gonna come out that changes something drastically thats not software and cannot be applied to 80he?

[upbeat berry]

whenever we feel confident in a new product

[low token]

It is owned by 3 dutch nerds

[cloud jetty]

Xd

Thats such an advantage tho in terms of quality

[upbeat berry]

we have no real release schedule or such which means we can invest time in refining products

[cloud jetty]

How big is wooting tho

[upbeat berry]

40 people or so

[cloud jetty]

Oh damn

[upbeat berry]

half of which is CS

[cloud jetty]

Does this number include you?

[upbeat berry]

yes

[zealous oak]

Spoil us something

[toxic latch]

CS?

[low token]

In money propably around 25mil €

[wide hare]

thats what im thinking too, how much impact does one purchase of a keyboard have ?

[cloud jetty]

Damn

[upbeat berry]

ok ok but everyone here has to promise not to be a party pooper.... the hot scoop you guys get about our next keyboard is:

||it will have keys||

[cloud jetty]

So is the wooting team then the purple names on discord the 40 members?

[fallen epoch]

Calder 2.0

[buoyant solstice]

Most staff are not on Discord. 🙂

[zealous oak]

Now we have a clue

[upbeat berry]

only the one who wanna be on the discord and have the team role

[low token]

@cloud jetty how much € you want invest in wooting?

[cloud jetty]

It kinda blows my mind that you guys are actually here talking to me rn

[upbeat berry]

want me to blow it more? || you can touch it||

so many revelations

[zealous oak]

I prefer Calder

[upbeat berry]

sorry you dont like my leaks

lol

[cloud jetty]

Id be looking at my ROI and go from there since im really starting to appreciate this company, its going on a very secure path

[zealous oak]

🤣

[cloud jetty]

Promising

[wide hare]

so how much impact does a single purchase have for wooting ?

of a keyboard

[buoyant solstice]

Well... the 80HE campaign ended at 7mil

[fallen epoch]

About a few dollars

[wide hare]

👀

[upbeat berry]

potentially massive is a customer comes up with a good feature suggestion for example

[cloud jetty]

Im intrested in the cost of making the kaybord xd

[buoyant solstice]

Every purchase helps of course. 🙂

[low token]

1k 60hes are good investment

[wide hare]

yea of course

[buoyant solstice]

Every keyboard sold helps me buy breadcrumbs

[upbeat berry]

like every customer of ours has the potential to not just bring in a purchase but also suggest a feature thatll break the market again like rapid trigger did

[cloud jetty]

Doesn't cost 1k. Tho

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-frame-eaten-bread-chris-p-duck-cartoon-hangover-gif-11545471

[low token]

190k €

[cloud jetty]

He

Were there ppl begging for keyboards?

[fallen epoch]

Speaking of features, heatmap rgb fx. Need more of that

[wide hare]

thats the way as long as yall have ur breadcrumbs all is good in the world

[buoyant solstice]

[upbeat berry]

you mean built in keylogger?

[fallen epoch]

[upbeat berry]

like people always underestimate this but heatmaps are a way to recover sensitive data

even if only partially

[fallen epoch]

Im meaning more the uwus heatmap effect

[wide hare]

idk i feel like the 60he+ is as good as it can get in my opinion feature wise its got enough going on

[cloud jetty]

Hey silly question if i pre order rn and pay the 220 for 80he is that a guarantee that i will receive the keyboard or is there a possibility that I won't and i will lose that money?

[buoyant solstice]

It's an order, not a hope.

[upbeat berry]

either you get the keyboard or your money back no other option

[buoyant solstice]

We've been shipping keyboards for almost a decade. We're not about to stop - or go under 😄

[cloud jetty]

Had to ask

To me thats still big money

Kinda gonna justify this as my birthday gift to myself

[wide hare]

does wooting have anything in the pipleline when it comes to external pads ? i know yall have the UwU pad but im talking about something more along the lines of a full on macro pad ? personally id pay quite a BIT of money for that

[cloud jetty]

Why not use 3rd party ones?

[wide hare]

i do use a 3rd party one but it would be nice to have one from wooting where i can sync the lighting of 2 products and have my settings all in one place i dont wanna fumble around with remapping or using stuff like SharpKeys

all my stuff in one place

easy to configure from either the app or browser and still have those features available

[valid comet]

a lot of people have asked about making a Wootpad HE (being the 2u 0 numpad with some extra macros and a knob, like the Q0 Max sorta, just gave them the idea of a potential layout

[fallen epoch]

Wootpad ftw

[wide hare]

it would for sure be really handy to have something like that with wooting that we can control our sound and have functions we can set for a wootpad

[valid comet]

excel is an esport, so we need the true 8k accounting tech with rappy snappy, rapid trigger, and SOCD

[wide hare]

id pay whatever money it is for a wootpad

[fallen epoch]

Me be, dragging functions down every cell like a maniac

[dusky tiger]

wooting mice when

[wide hare]

👀

if wooting made a mouse that mf better be aiming for me

[zealous oak]

propose ideas to make it different to any actual mice

[dusky tiger]

you can aim vertically

[zealous oak]

like those vertical mouse?

[dusky tiger]

no

in air. Think of it, the bottleneck of mice is mousepad

[zealous oak]

belive it or not I thought about that too lol

[dusky tiger]

mouse being in air = no resistance = You have perfect control

[zealous oak]

but would be way more difficult to aim actually

[dusky tiger]

shhhhh

[zealous oak]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-gun-hand-gun-sign-hand-pistol-gesture-hands-up-taking-aim-gif-26292675

[coarse crest]

If you order now, by the time you get the keyboard, you will probably forget about buying it to begin with

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[cloud jetty]

I think u don't know how much 220€ is worth to me

I pretty much havent spoiler myself for a solid 4years

[coarse crest]

Only you will know that answer

[cloud jetty]

I tell u rn there's no chance i forget about it

Im slightly worried that id order jt and then worry that maybe something bad happened to it and perhaps it was supposed to be delivered but it wasn't over oh i forgot

[sullen sand]

This can't be a serious question

[cloud jetty]

Im still childish, I don't buy stuff im not entirely sure how things work everywhere

[wide hare]

how about a mousepad and skates that lightly push the mouse away from the pad to create a hockey table like feel

[coarse crest]

As you said in an earlier post, sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith. Or wait until the first couple batches come back and see if you still want it

If you do order it and something bad happens then return it

[sullen sand]

Maybe you should go out, enjoy and explore life before spending €220 on a keyboard 🙂

[cloud jetty]

I'm not interested in enjoying life

Don't find value there

[sullen sand]

Well it's the best keyboard on the market and it's your decision whether or not to spend money on it, no one is forcing you 🙂

[cloud jetty]

Yeah seems like i made up my mind

I'm just scared to spend large amounts of money at once

[sullen sand]

Your skill can get you similar performance in a game without it

[cloud jetty]

Its not as much for the technical stuff rather than spoil myself with something cool for my birthday

[sullen sand]

Well... it's cool 🙂 Just make sure you take care of it

[cloud jetty]

How to take care?

I'm usually good at taking care of things

Just haven't researched it much

[sullen sand]

Don't throw it at a wall or get candy stuck inside it 😂

[cloud jetty]

Thats not gonna happen

Don't eat candy and I don't rage

[wide hare]

just clean it out once in a while make sure to get stuff out of it, dust is inevitable there will always be dust, lube switches or you can even swap them out entirely if u want. make sure ur setup around it is clean and take care of the cable

[cloud jetty]

The key switch puller thingy will come in the box right?

And the keyboard is water proof?

[zealous oak]

Yes, it does

[cloud jetty]

XD or is this where it goes downhill

[sullen sand]

Not waterproof, spill resistant

[cloud jetty]

Whats the difference

[sullen sand]

So if you spill water on it you must turn it off, clean it and dry it

[cloud jetty]

Is that not how most electrics work

[sullen sand]

Waterproof means water cannot damage it, spill resistant means water can damage it but the coating gives a little bit of protection

[cloud jetty]

Alr

Good to know

I think im gonna go to sleep now

3am here

[fallen wren]

sup dudes and dudettes just placed my order for a 80he

[violet garnet]

[signal ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-on-gif-27524073

[dark cargo]

Wasn’t the 60he like 100k

[sullen sand]

250k or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAJl103M9bI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz9pTOLbeos

Wooting has gained a lot of reputation since 2021 so it makes sense 😂

[dark cargo]

And people like 80% layouts much more

[sullen sand]

It's definitely more accessible to the normal user 🙂

[rain zodiac]

do we know if the 80 could have more onboard memory than the 60 ?

[dim quartz]

i'm stupid i know but how do i know if i am first batch or second one?

[oak jungle]

holy moly

[rustic wadi]

Anyone know if i can conmect a usbc pcie card to add extra usbc slots to my motherboard?

[tight cypress]

Of course, but given you asked that in 80HE chat, I assume you want to connect 80HE to USB-C - don't worry, it won't matter if you use USB-A or USB-C for it

[coarse crest]

What is your estimated delivery date

[dim quartz]

mid nov

[coarse crest]

Batch 2

[dim quartz]

ewwww

[rustic wadi]

ah no not really, bought a atk f1 mice and i heard they have sensor issues using the cabke that comes with and the fix is to use usbc. And people in here do alot of moddign and tech shit so thought to ask. didnt pay attention to what channel. Good to know regarding the 80he tho. looking forward to receiving it

[valid comet]

afaik there is very little or zero processing done in the adapter to minimize latency

the point is for it to be flexible and fast

80HE comes with screw in or clip in stabs?

[lapis galleon]

screw in

[lament edge]

Ceramic keys have shipped

[gray vessel]

best keyboard ive ever purchased thank you wooting 🫶

[leaden dagger]

if anyone looking to sell their batch 1 80he once it arrives hmu

[valid comet]

poggers

i bought silicone screw in stabs

no holee mod needed

[jade widget]

Holee mod should be a crime fr

[lapis galleon]

ong

[jade widget]

Might have been useful for shitty stabs back in the day but even the stock wooting stabs are good enough that it is very much not needed

[oak jungle]

is it any better than the stock ones ?

[upper garden]

are they even worth the price? i hear mix reviews about it

[atomic brook]

unless you really like them

[lament edge]

From all the comparisons I watched. I fell in love with the sound lol

[atomic brook]

dont get them

but if you do get the legendless ones

[lament edge]

I like em with legends

[atomic brook]

the legends come off easy

cos its a cermaic keycap

[upper garden]

its one of those things i have to try out in person to see if i like it or not

[upper garden]

fair enough

[lament edge]

Got white with black legends, that means I get to enjoy both then for the same price at somepoint! 😂

[atomic brook]

fair enuf

[lament edge]

Was looking at metal but that shits is too expensive lol

[atomic brook]

ehh

typing on metal is something else entirely

[lament edge]

Idk if I’d like metal on metal sound anyway

[atomic brook]

they are usually reserved for artisan keycaps

[lament edge]

I saw a video with a nice whole metal set but it was like 250/300

Im not spending that much on caps

120 I’ll pay in 4😂

Got my final mouse today it’ll go well with my black zinc 80he with them white ceramic keys 😍

[valid comet]

lmb and rmb grips gg

[lament edge]

This new one seems to be staining so I took precautions lol

[steep badger]

GOOBA

I saw the factory video earlier today and I'm super hyped for my 80HE!

[lament edge]

Fellow hololive enjoyer 🤩

[steep badger]

yup

[mossy dome]

goodbye aqua

[steep badger]

[lament edge]

Horrible news to wake up to today

[oak jungle]

what's happened

[lament edge]

Vtuber Idol graduated

well is graduating

[icy cosmos]

I would say in this context. It’s truly worth celebrating 😅

[lament edge]

It’s not she was a favorite 😦

I’m sure she’ll join another agency tho

[sharp moon]

Logitech better

[lament edge]

It’s lighter than my super light! It’s an upgrade for me !

[sharp moon]

👍

[lament edge]

I’m doing a taro boba tea looking build so it goes with my 80he and components I’ll be buying

[sharp moon]

Is it lighter then super light 2?

[lament edge]

Most definitely

[lament edge]

47g Vs 60g super light

2

Even lighter if you get medium or small

[valid comet]

i hate seeing those 2 words together

sorry I have a long history with logitech and only logitech, and I hate them.

[thin jay]

i prefer heavier than lighter

[valid comet]

and yes i am still using my G502 Hero wtf

[sharp moon]

Yea Logitech have some problems with mouse ( double click on mouse wheel usually ) but there’s nothing better that it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-pussycat-chill-chilling-gif-2889701788000709162

I steal using mine Logitech g pro

[atomic brook]

i probably will get a logitech superlight 2 soon

[valid comet]

clicks will feel heavy at first let them break in

[sharp moon]

Yea wanna buy it aswel

[atomic brook]

ya ive seen, i dont mind tho

have used a viper mini for years

before that just normal wireless mouses

like office ones

[valid comet]

G502 Hero for 7 years left click hella broke in but no double clicking

just the debounce is a piece of shit

[sharp moon]

Real gamers using office mouse 🐭

Btw

[jade widget]

Shape subjective, hardware wise Razer has a better sensor, software wise it's pretty easy to find something better

[atomic brook]

issue is that the viper v3 pro is obviously for gamers

i like the shape of it

dont mind the price

dont care about minor hardware differences

but the dongle options are so bad

[valid comet]

i agree

[atomic brook]

that im going to chose a superlight instead

[jade widget]

The gaming mouse is designed for gamers that's true

[atomic brook]

ive seen people buy razer's wireless dongle to not have to use a cable

[valid comet]

i will say I like the idea of having regular receiver that plugs into a polling booster

[atomic brook]

for like 20 dollars, only to realise it doesnt work as advertised

[jade widget]

Which dongle options are we talkng about

[atomic brook]

like this shit doesnt work

[valid comet]

then again i dont care about anything above 1k for mouse tracking, but yes 8k for mouse clicks 100%

[atomic brook]

and people waste their money

[jade widget]

One reddit post and it's a widespread issue?

I hate razer as much as the next person but idk about that one

[atomic brook]

its not

no one buys a 200 dollar mouse for outside laptop use lmao

but i want to, so it sucked for me considering i like the look and shape of it

[rustic wadi]

get the atk f1

[atomic brook]

nah

[rustic wadi]

is so light tho

[atomic brook]

dont care that much about weight

[next lark]

the superlight 2 feels like a downgrade from the 1

[tight leaf]

https://youtu.be/sZPFfAlUUuo?si=TVFNGaBytEFwQuoL uhh why does this look awfully familiar

[atomic brook]

infact i kinda hate very light mouses

[valid comet]

i like them, mostly the shape, overall performance and hardware software reliability that matters

[tight leaf]

shape > weight > everything else

best claw shapes for medium hands are op1 8k and ninjutso sora

ergo/palm is deathadder v3 and ftip is whatever's small and has 4k

[atomic brook]

feel, shape, actual usage, design, then everything else for me

i dont actually care about peripheralls helping me in a game

[tight leaf]

it can help to a certain point, def anything 50-60g can help over 80+ grams and has been proven by multiple channels already, but anything lower than that is very marginal

[atomic brook]

as in i dont care

not that i dont think it would

its just not a priority

[tight leaf]

I prioritize weight personally, but not if it has holes. Holes suck and are 100% gonna get dirty

[atomic brook]

thats under feel for me

i really dislike the feel of holes

[tight leaf]

also like these mice nowadays are crazy low weight + has higher than 1k polling so why not get it if you can ykwim

[atomic brook]

the reason i care about weight is for fatigue

[tight leaf]

doesn't hurt to have and also ^

[atomic brook]

but too low and it feels like shit

[tight leaf]

yeah I can agree

I personally use my pinky to aim with mice

[atomic brook]

55 ish is nice for me

[lament edge]

I love the super light I had it with the charging pad

[atomic brook]

55 to 65 specifically

[tight leaf]

I dislike the superlight just because it's too generic

[lament edge]

But I felt like I was already more precise playing fps with the FM

[tight leaf]

like it could be better, but you choose not to and pay the premium because of bandwagons

[tight leaf]

probably because SL is a safe, fits-all solution

I personally find it super hard to micro-adjust with the SL, and it's 62 grams like

it ain't "superlight" no more

[lament edge]

Holding the fm for the first time I was surprised that it felt like there was nothing in my hand

Maybe one day I’ll get glass skates

[atomic brook]

my final two options were the vv3 pro and the superlight 2

[tight leaf]

not worth, stay ptfe

[atomic brook]

vv3 pro just sucks for the general public

[lament edge]

What about glass mousepad

[tight leaf]

people don't understand the importance of friction and feedback in a mouse

[atomic brook]

ya thats why i hate mouse that are too light

[tight leaf]

if you really want to, ig go for it but I carry my periphs to go tourneys and stuff so

[lament edge]

I don’t take my mouse and kb anywhere but I would take my snack box fight stick places

[tight leaf]

gets annoying to bring around when all my other periphs can fit in 1 bag

[lament edge]

I feel u

I have a low profile keyboard to take with me if I need it for my steam deck

[tight leaf]

thing is with low-profile keebs is youre compromising on feel for convenience

[lament edge]

I love it honestly

[tight leaf]

imo a normal keeb ain't that much diff so why not get that

[lament edge]

I got a Logitech one I’ve been using for about 2 years, at the time I wanted a wireless solution that worked on 3 diff devices at once

I still love it

But then I saw Hall effect keyboards and 80he and going back 😂

[tight leaf]

I got this bad boy

next keeb I'd buy would be an 80he when they make better switches and a case for it

just gotta be patient ig, but I still think the 60he with their alu case is pretty good-looking

[lament edge]

I went from that huge razer Xbox keyboard, to a Corsair then a ducky 60%, then now on the logi Mx mechanical mini

[short crow]

Nice keyboard

[tight leaf]

thanks

[short crow]

We kinda had the same road my first was a huge razer blackwidow into a used logitech into ducky 65% which i still use waiting for the 60he

[lament edge]

I went with the zinc 80he looks sexy

[short crow]

I didn't love the colours of the zinc :/

[lament edge]

I hate razer the dongle never worked even with a replacement !

[short crow]

Dont look at the dirty pls

[lament edge]

I liked the texture they showed in that video once

I like the color scheme!!

[tight leaf]

you should get better keycaps. they make a board look much better

good color scheme though yeah

[short crow]

It's a varmilio ducky collab though i have no idea if it's a ducky or varmilio

Those are stock keycaps^^^

[lament edge]

It’s both I guess! Lol

[tight leaf]

buncha new competitors in the keycap space so

[lament edge]

I wish the ceramic keycaps had Japanese letters on em I just had to go with black letters

[tight leaf]

ceram keycaps feel awful

friend has them and theyre too pingy

[short crow]

These are my new keycaps for the 60he

[lament edge]

I love the thock 🤓

[atomic brook]

if your getting ceramic

get legendless

[lament edge]

I think we talked about this but I got with legends and I guess when they go away I got both for the price of 1 😂

[atomic brook]

oh ya

black on white rite?

[rugged bobcat]

Could put some clear tape over it

[lament edge]

Yeah

I don’t mind really it’ll just be the wasd that has the issue if it happens

[atomic brook]

defeats the purpose of buying keycaps

[rugged bobcat]

There’s varying purposes

[lament edge]

And maybe YouTube buttons 😂

[rugged bobcat]

Ceramic ones seem to be bought for sound from what I seen

[lament edge]

Yeah i fell inlove with the sound

[atomic brook]

ya but why would you want to type on tape

over ceramic

[lament edge]

I think i still have my old corsair so i can get used to it before thr 80he comes

[rugged bobcat]

Clear tape prolly feels better than ceramic

Might be trippin tho

I’ll try when I get mine

[lament edge]

I think you gotta create some full tape keycaps

[short crow]

Holy hell imagine the thock with painters tape around the whole keycap

[rugged bobcat]

Would prolly sound good

[lament edge]

crunch crunch

[short crow]

Would be horrible trying to get the tape to not overlap and stuff but the sound would probably be amazing

[lament edge]

Can make some cash with a group buy 😂

[icy cosmos]

If you apply more of it, it will get that earthy raw look to match the theme 😉

[short crow]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[icy cosmos]

Each material has it own properties and feel. Cearmic will feel different than plastic for sure. The challenges with these materials is that they need to fit on a plastic stem. To get that right tolerance hard.

Maybe 3D printed titanium keycaps will be the new top dog..

[rugged bobcat]

I think the v2s made that part plastic so it shouldn’t be a issue

[rugged bobcat]

Sounds like it’d go crazy

[icy cosmos]

In terms of price, yes but the process is simple.

[icy cosmos]

and bonding 2 materials is not an issue?

Only time will tell. I like Ceramic as very cool material. Omega just managed to do a CNC watch case out of ceramic instead of the typical injection molding.

[atomic brook]

I think he means it as "it will look nice"

[dawn scroll]

Does the module come with stabilizers?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes, prelubed and preinstalled.

[dawn scroll]

aight cool ty

[atomic brook]

70 days left

which is kinda nuts to think about

it's a fifth of a year

[icy cosmos]

Here´s a Tudor Ceramic case https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tz-OSZ14-A ( you can do high polish on it too). compared to the ceramic keys finish...

[rugged bobcat]

Could definitely end up being one but worst case it ends up like the v1s

[atomic brook]

it's glued

[icy cosmos]

that is the problem...

[atomic brook]

imma be honest

if you have a non faulty one and you aren't smashing your keyboard

it's probably fine

however I still stay away from cerakeys

[icy cosmos]

A lot of people is asking for it in this channel so the hype is real. I don´t feel the quality is good enough for my standard. It look and feel like porcelain atm.

[midnight iron]

Don’t forget the printing issues with ceramic too

The legends wear off

[icy cosmos]

Hopefully some one will master the double shoot method for ceramic one day.

This has the potential to be the most scratch resistance keycaps if it´s made properly 😅

[fickle raft]

Is the 80he design, the final design of the keyboard? I wish they add a knob to the keyboard

[buoyant solstice]

Final final. The knob project is a separate thing.

[fickle raft]

Wdym separate thing are they going to release a different one with a knob?

[midnight iron]

there's a project they're working on where you'll be able to add a knob type thing to existing keyboard

but we have no details beyond it existing

[raven whale]

Hey I got the 80he a few days ago not reading it was pre order, just wanted to know if it's worth waiting or should I refund and get the 60he?

[midnight iron]

i mean that depends on if you want to wait and what features/format you prefer

[stoic hazel]

If its urgent then better u change your order to 60he,because it is still long waiting

[frigid cliff]

yeah 60he+ is still and will be a very good keyboard for a long while

[raven whale]

Not really urgent but I've been using a 60% keyboard for a while and I'm not a fan of the layout that's why I went for the 80he over the 60he. I'm not familiar with keyboards so it there any other different between the 60 and 80? Or is it just size

[frigid cliff]

yeah 80he is faster by 8ms i thiunk

0.8

[raven whale]

Okay thanks i don't mind waiting. Thanks 🙏

[lime falcon]

difference in latency wont be noticeable

sound will be way better

[raven whale]

Can't wait I've been using a ducky keyboard and it's so loud

[radiant snow]

Is there a way to follow the order?

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[worn compass]

I’ve been using a membrane since December, the upgrade is gonna be so worth it

[radiant snow]

I didn’t have an account when ordering so idk the order number either I wish there was one I can find it

[buoyant solstice]

No one does. Create the account now using the same email as you used on checkout

[radiant snow]

But I didn’t even put email on checkout

[buoyant solstice]

You sure did - even if you don't remember doing so.
Express checkout with apple pay or something similar by any chance?

[radiant snow]

Apple Pay yea, but I have no access to the same email

[glass garden]

I’ve done that but I think since I paid with Apple pay it did not register my email when I create an account it says no order found with this email

[buoyant solstice]

Seems like a bad idea to use an email address that you don't have access to.

[buoyant solstice]

You -cannot- go through checkout without providing an email address. That is literally THE way we track orders 😄

[upbeat berry]

it uses the apple pay email

[buoyant solstice]

In case you have absolutely no idea what the email address is (or you made a typo - it happens), email us at [e-mail] with your full name and shipping address of the order. Then we can help fix it.

[glass garden]

Yeah I know I still received the confirmation email but no way to link my order with the account I created afterwards…

[buoyant solstice]

Yes you do... You create the account on our hub using that email address 😄

The order is already there.

[violet ridge]

besides if its the wrong email there is a way to transfer it

like there is a button

[upbeat berry]

yes but you need access to the old email

[buoyant solstice]

Only works if you have access to the current email though 😄

[upbeat berry]

if you dont have access you need to email us

[glass garden]

It just appeared lmao thanks if you done anything maybe I just had to wait a little

[buoyant solstice]

[glass garden]

Fastest customer service ever?

[radiant snow]

Is there an option to send a ticket for google to send me a ticket to help me retrieve the lost email? Cuz I don’t have the phone to get authenticator for my phone

[pseudo parrot]

best to use an email you have access to, when getting in touch with their customer support. [e-mail]

[radiant snow]

Was talking about google but that helps too

[lime falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[glass garden]

🫣

[radiant snow]

Where can I see the order number?

[buoyant solstice]

It's in the email you received after purchase.
Not sure what you need it for though?

You need access to the original email account for that.

Where your confirmation email is 😄

[radiant snow]

It’s the one written, but as been said, I have no access to it, I’ve sent an email to the support wishing to replace the contact information to the email I’ve sent them

To the active one

[buoyant solstice]

No access? Email us for help.

You can't use the tool above, because you don't HAVE access atm

Then all you have to do is wait for assistance. 🙂

[radiant snow]

It’s the second one tho , I didn’t get answer for the first request of it

[buoyant solstice]

You sent the email today. It'll take a day or two at least for a response from staff.

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-the-simpsons-pool-relaxing-chill-gif-17676069

[hearty sky]

Guys just a quick question
I ordered 80he in the campaign and this is going to be my first wooting keyboard
So i wanted to you that when they start shipping the keyboard they first send the email to re confirm the address
So is there any thing i should be doing correctly other than to send my address to them again
so that they dont put my order on hold ?

Sorry if this a dumb question

Is there somethings which my order gets on hold ?

[buoyant solstice]

Your order won't be on hold perse. We just won't ship it until you confirm your address (or a week passes, at which point we pray and hope the address is right)

[hearty sky]

okay thanks

So factory tour video 2 tomorrow ?

[signal ivy]

Already out my guy

[hearty sky]

Video 2 is not out yet

[signal ivy]

Ohhh

[worn compass]

There’s gonna be a video 2?

Will it be about the mass production or something different

[lime falcon]

isnt it once a week

[worn compass]

Feels like once a month tbh

[manic arrow]

Nope

[minor vigil]

this is my order - is this everything i need to assemble the keyboard (stabilizers etc.)? will there be something missing like the usbc cable?

[pseudo parrot]

you have everything you need. stabilizers already come installed, cable is included

[lime falcon]

ah, havent seen that

[manic arrow]

Just curious but why don't you wanna buy pre-built? Seems like you're buying everything from Wooting.

[lime falcon]

maybe he wants L45 switches

[buoyant solstice]

Getting L45 switches without paying for L60 preinstalled on top 😄

[manic arrow]

[minor vigil]

couldnt find an option to get the lekker 45, and its easier to lube it right away 🙂

i also just like building stuff / assembling stuff

[pseudo parrot]

after trying the uwu im sold on l45 switches. if i were to order an 80he today id get the module as well

but changing switches shouldnt take too long anyways

[visual mango]

why dont u get the magnetic switches?

[buoyant solstice]

They...they are

[visual mango]

they are?

[minor vigil]

i think he means the gateron, dont like the sound 🙂

[visual mango]

i thought was just the jade ones

[buoyant solstice]

Buddy...

ALL Hall Effect switches are magnetic. 😄

The keyboard literally won't work with anything else

[lime falcon]

[visual mango]

oh my bad fam

so this all are magnetic?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

Gateron just likes long branding names

[visual mango]

so why tf one costs 10 eur and other 60?

[lime falcon]

12 pack is 10 euro

jades are 60 pack

[buoyant solstice]

Jades in 70 or more.
But Jades ARE more expensive - Because Gateron sets their own prices.

[visual mango]

OH

its a different brand

[lime falcon]

both are made by gateron

[valid comet]

yeah jades are hella expensive because marketing and demand

[visual mango]

oh yeah i could've just read description

[valid comet]

otherwise the L60 and L45 and their v2 counterparts are still good

[visual mango]

whats difference between l45 and l60?

[valid comet]

i still think getting the jades were a mistake on my part because I like 4.0mm of travel

[lime falcon]

L45 are lighter

thats all

[valid comet]

45g vs 60g of force

its noticable

[pseudo parrot]

the number in lekker switches & springs indicate weight needed to bottom out

[valid comet]

and L means Linear

[visual mango]

ohhh got it

[pseudo parrot]

yep

[minor vigil]

is there a way to add the lube an toolkit to my initial order, so i get it together with the keyboard? or do i have to make an additional order?

[valid comet]

very easy to understand

[pseudo parrot]

can email wooting [e-mail]

[lime falcon]

send email and ask them to add it

[minor vigil]

alright will do, thanks guys 🙂

[visual mango]

does magnetic switches need lubricant?

[minor vigil]

will sound better (subjectively)

but you dont need to lube them

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - And the switches are prelubed during manufacturing

[visual mango]

soo what's the recomended time to relub it

like 3 in 3 months or something?

[buoyant solstice]

Once a decade.

[visual mango]

LOL

[minor vigil]

actually one more question lol: will the amount of prelubing be equal to the 60he?

[buoyant solstice]

New switches, so not quite the same.

[lime falcon]

I think prelubing will be better on newer switches

[minor vigil]

oh ok interesting

[gritty oar]

Anyone has an some decent pics of the plastic cases? I selected the clearer one and I’m hesitant

[coarse crest]

I’d try looking thru their YT videos to see the different kind of plastic cases (I believe they showed a few plastic ones in one of the expo videos)

[sullen sand]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-pcr-abs-case?Color=Black

You can cycle through the colours for images of each

[dapper anchor]

So.... Brought my twoHE into work for colleague to try out. He's buying two. #2 for his son, and 80HE for himself.

[buoyant solstice]

[dapper anchor]

Please tell me the Rap snap and stuff on beta also on Two HE?

[buoyant solstice]

All keyboards. Opt in beta (see pins in #⏬│rappy_and_snappy )

[dapper anchor]

Great. I won't charge for the loaner today

[valid comet]

aw thats so sweet 😭❤️

beta.wootility.io you can see it there! update the firmware of any wooting devices you own!

[dapper anchor]

He thought the 60 i bring out of cupboard for own use just a little too "committed"

[valid comet]

the amount of things you can do with 60% boards are really fun, especially those that use a GH60 layout

[buoyant solstice]

We're showing off some of the cases in real life in tomorrow's factory tour video

[hybrid inlet]

There is another video coming tomorrow?

[toxic zephyr]

no, mansen said all that just because he likes lying

[buoyant solstice]

Is video 2 today?

[bright jewel]

no

[buoyant solstice]

I've lost track to be honest. It's so hot that I can barely think straight 😄

[bright jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-3443760867666449281

[oak sedge]

Can't say this without living in AZ

[buoyant solstice]

I am not good with heat. It's 30C in my office these days with no office, only a desk fan.

[oak sedge]

oof

its 100 degrees F every day here in Arizona or hotter

LOL

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah but you yanks are used to it - and have AC everywhere.

[oak sedge]

Valid

Mexico is terrible with literally no homes having AC either

So expensive to get AC installed over there

[buoyant solstice]

I am blessed and cursed with living in brand new housing, which means very good insulation.
No heating bill in winter, oven in summer 😄

[oak sedge]

Hahha

[cunning gust]

AC is a human right

🦅

[atomic brook]

i read that as

AC is a human, right?

[cunning gust]

True

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-mecha-science-fiction-worm-snake-gif-10973433410089988718

[obsidian girder]

does the stock 80he cable have the same quality/power specification as the detachable cable? was kinda confusing when mentioning consistent voltages with different brightness and power modes

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

The inconsistencies are with some third party cables.

[obsidian girder]

word

[hybrid birch]

Hello, it's been a while since I have asked for a french PBT keycaps update, so I was wondering if we had anything regarding release date or timing?

[pseudo parrot]

there’s no eta yet unfortunately

[hybrid birch]

ok thanks!