🌟│wooting80he

[valid comet]

Wooting is almost at 100k members... Wow 😳

[icy cosmos]

The discussion was about that hardware manufacturer is using power to push more performance. Thus needing more powerful PSU. Also you need to overclock to get the performance.

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. That thing I literally just said 😄

[still pond]

yeah I realized that it was actually skylines at that point 😄

but I was from the phone initially and my monkey brain couldn't comprehend cs2 and 40 fps in one sentence, so I had to comment on it

[upbeat berry]

tbf this is more an issue of using shorthands when not everyone in the convo will 100% know what the shorthand refers to

[verbal solar]

im trying to use the mixed movement profile in the wooting thing for the whole analog movement but when i click WASD none of them provide input does anyone know how to fix it?

the gamepad tester thing is showing that its working

but when i go into the game (ghost of tsushima) it just doesnt allow my character to move or anything

and when i try typing the WASD keys dont work

is there an option i need to turn on ingame to fix it?

[toxic zephyr]

I mean probably? toggling on controller support or some such?

[buoyant solstice]

Oh I dunno. It followed the previous message about Skylines 😄

[buoyant solstice]

Not at all games support mixing keyboard and controller inputs.

[verbal solar]

i searched it up and it said ghost of tsushima supports it

on the list thing

[buoyant solstice]

#1019723042244534282 share your profile.

[dim sierra]

dont ppl refer to it as CSL for city skyline

[buoyant solstice]

First I've heard that. Also it would have to be CSL2 which is just a mouthful at that point 😄

[violet garnet]

Has city skylines 2 had a lot of updates since launch?

[spark hound]

Great success!

[violet garnet]

gamers nexus could barely get CSL2 above 60 fps with a 4090 at 1080p medium

[buoyant solstice]

Hasn't changed.

[violet garnet]

damn

[icy cosmos]

Is it a hardware problem or a game engine problem 🤔

[violet garnet]

it's just one of the most poorly optimised games ever

[violet garnet]

so mainly an optimisation problem

[lost jetty]

out yet?

when?

will it come?

[red heart]

For people that ordered during the first batch, it‘ll be early august

If you order now september

[lost jetty]

💀

[red heart]

[lost jetty]

its just some plastic dude what takes so long

[red heart]

It‘s a preorder on a very in demand product

[buoyant solstice]

It's not though.

[red heart]

Your iphone is just a piece of glass why is it so expensive

Your house is just a brick

[buoyant solstice]

It's some plastic, some electrical components and a lot of small parts that all need to fit together in the way intended, and in a manner that it doesn't break apart.

[lost jetty]

i dont have an iphone

im broke

[quartz trellis]

iphone, Samsung, Sony... doesn't matter, the process is the same at the end

[lost jetty]

i dont have a phone directly

😦 pls donat

[red heart]

If you dont have a phone dont buy a luxury gaming keyboard

[lost jetty]

but its more cheap

[quartz trellis]

not exactly. You can buy a Galaxy A35 5G for 250 these days and cover all your daily mobile demands with that

[dim sierra]

True i barely use my phone other than to read

[oak jungle]

you could use wooting on your phone tho so it's win win

[runic glacier]

l45 is more sensitive/quicker than l60 in some sense right??

would it make a real difference in competitive games or do i have it all wrong lol

[toxic zephyr]

it's just easier to press

over a .1mm or hell, even the full travel of the switch, difference of 15grams is meaningless in comparison to your fingers

ergo, no difference apart from what kinda feeling you like

[runic glacier]

ok thanks i'll give both a go see which is nicer 😄

[verbal solar]

when i buy module i only have to put switches and the keycaps yes?

[fallen epoch]

Module requires a full assemble of the case switches and keycaps

[sonic kindle]

Why isnt the stock abs case part of the options for building your module if it was I would have definitely gotten the module with l45s

[verbal solar]

damn

imma buy module to get little spicy

[buoyant solstice]

It is - For the 80HE

[sonic kindle]

I meant for the 60

I would have loved to have. A pc plate and l45s

[buoyant solstice]

You're in the #🌟│wooting80he channel.
It is not an option for the 60HE, because the module is intended for enthusiast modding.

i.e. bring your own case (or buy one from us)

[sonic kindle]

Oh mb i thought I was in general

[fallen epoch]

[wise oar]

guys, forgive me for what might seem like a silly question, but right now i have a crappy bluetooth keyboard and i'm looking at upgrading to 80he and i'm wondering if it only comes with the cable or a wireless connection as well? also, how exactly does 2.4g work, does it require a wifi pcie card?

[buoyant solstice]

All of our keyboards are wired. No wireless of any kind.

[wise oar]

oh shoot

[lost jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-gif-11242683397767497522

[toxic zephyr]

I mean safe to assume if it doesn't advertise to be wireless... it's not wireless

[wise oar]

it's safe to assume if you're not an idiot like me

[shrewd saddle]

It’s easier to not buy into it and use it as an excuse if you stop putting yourself down o.o

You can be smort if you want to!

[wise oar]

is that what my parents meant when they said i can be whatever i want to be?

i always assumed it meant i could become a fridge but i'm yet to succeed

[shrewd saddle]

Just be cold and mean, now you a fridge

Creativity and perspective can solve many problems!

[wise oar]

much appreciated!

all jokes aside, i suppose if i can't go for no wires in my setup then i need a good looking cable at least

[shrewd saddle]

Their detachable cables look great and come with both, a coiled and a straight end

I’m using 1 cable for 2 keebs fsfs

[sleek pelican]

just unplug and hide when not using lol

[halcyon heart]

do the cable actually have any latency diff or its just quality diff?

[buoyant solstice]

A cable either works or it doesn't.

Our cables are built to work with our keyboards even at high settings.

[halcyon heart]

so any compatible cable has no difference whatsoever?

aside from the quality of the cable itself

[buoyant solstice]

It's ultimately just a question of wire gauge and the quality of the solder work.

And of course the real physics of "how long can a cable be before the signal loss is an issue"

Cablemod's regular coiled cables can't cope with Tachyon and 100% brightness last I checked.

But their Pro line of cables can, which have thicker wiring and I assume a stricter QC on all cable solder work.

[halcyon heart]

i see, so they do make a difference

[buoyant solstice]

Our cables are just high quality cables, that we've designed for our keyboards to stay stable at the end of day.

No black sorcery or anything proprietary.

[halcyon heart]

alright thats good to know, but kinda wish some sort of sorcery was included

[spark hound]

The blessings of Erik and jeroen

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-salem-sabrina-the-teenage-witch-gif-10710252

[shrewd saddle]

I was told that it was devised via wizardry not sorcery.

[merry wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wizard-shocked-wtf-huh-gif-3644778

[halcyon heart]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-dance-ena-gif-27696814

[graceful bough]

Hello, if I buy the 80 he module separately, will the cable and foam be included?

[tight cypress]

Yes, it will

Everything but keycaps and switches

[foggy quiver]

What are all known LED bar uses? Is there a list somewhere

[tight cliff]

Yes, in the pins

Here: #🌟│wooting80he message

[winter coral]

I miss shows like that these days....it was just honest fun with the family.

Off topic end 😄

[radiant anvil]

is this good for 80he too? (asking because i dont see it written) btw it tells that we can have a discount if we have a wooting keyboard or a pre-order we have a discount but when i send the item in the basket for buying it, i dont get any discount.

[tight cypress]

Yes, it is compatible with 80HE
But to get a discount it needs to be in a separate order than keyboard

[merry wagon]

can it handle 8khz?

or does the cable not matter that much

[tight cypress]

Yup, it can handle 8k just fine

#🌟│wooting80he message

[radiant anvil]

yeah i m trying to do it but still no discount

[merry wagon]

[tight cypress]

The discount will be visible during the last stage of checkout after you enter your e-mail

[radiant anvil]

kk ty

[radiant anvil]

nope still nothing it tells me no order found

but when i go on wooting i have the 80he in preorder, do i contact support mybe? and let them add the cable in discount?

[timid garden]

Can you not order the PCR Frost version yet? I’m not seeing it on tbe website

[red heart]

it's for module only

[timid garden]

Ahhh, bless.

[verbal solar]

I never built a kb and when it arrived it gonna be the first time

Little spicy

[timid garden]

I ordered the solid black PCR but yeah I may cancel that and switch to buying the module cause I was planning on getting custom keycaps anyway

Something tells me the frost PCR with good lighting will look amazing but I might stick with a solid case and go with semi-translucent keys instead

[verbal solar]

Oh i order normal but it will be in september and when i get refound i buy an instant module when i have the idea to customize it i can also do it

But when i buy it after tomorrow i get it in August instead of September

looking to buy a wooting. not really sure what switches to go for

[magic raven]

Will a 60in cablemod pro straight cable cause issues w wooting keebs?

idk at what lengths issues arise

[lime aspen]

L60 is 60g bottom out L45 is 45g

L60 is light enough for me but if you have weak fingers you might prefer L45

[verbal solar]

wb the jade?

[lime aspen]

They are closed bottom

Sound and feel different, id probably just go with jades tbh

Those are like 50-55g bottom out iirc

[verbal solar]

do i use Poron foam or silicone?

[lime aspen]

I prefer silicone

[verbal solar]

why

do i have to screw the module into the case or can i leave it unscrewed?

[lime aspen]

You should screw it in

[cobalt blade]

Hey there guys! Is the Wooting 80HE getting the zinc alloy raw case for a massive production or only for a limited edition?

[tight cypress]

Mass production

[cobalt blade]

LETS GO

I will buy it immediately on the first day

[jade widget]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-night-raw-wwe-raw-wrestling-2020-gif-19125491

[jade widget]

It's available now just on pre-order

[cobalt blade]

It should be right here, right?

[jade widget]

It's only available with the module

[cobalt blade]

Oh ok

Im gonna check it rn

OMG, thank you so much man!

[jade widget]

Always happy to help a fellow raw enjoyer

[cobalt blade]

Are the switches already lubricated from the factory?

[jade widget]

Yep

[cobalt blade]

Nah, you already won everything wooting LOL

Thank you so much!

[hazy prawn]

Real

[weary wren]

I need a knob, someone leak something.....

[lapis galleon]

if you ask Calder to not leak anything something will end up being leaked

it’s a cheat code to get free wooting leaks

[fallen epoch]

Next calders gonna leak the upcoming Wooting game, staring Wooty the Lekker switch

[bleak vale]

are the extra L45 switches in package also pre-lubed?

[fallen epoch]

All switches are prelubed, so indeed :)

[bleak vale]

nice

[silk carbon]

How are you getting that price?

[hexed maple]

hello guys, I preordered the 80 HE as a gift for my son, I just wanted to make sure that it comes with a Cord already or do I need to buy a cord separately? thank you

[bleak vale]

it comes with a standard cord of some kind

[hexed maple]

thank you!!!

[tight cypress]

It comes with 2m USB-C to USB-C cable and USB-C to USB-A adapter

[nova nexus]

They live in a region where we do not collect taxes at purchase and instead they'll likely need to pay import taxes to their local country's customs

[silk carbon]

I see, from Spain I would be paying taxes at purchase, our VAT/IVA is 21% so I would say these taxes are the ones I would pay if I were buying where Wooting is located in (inside European Union, just as Spain)

[nova nexus]

Correct, you won't need to pay any additional import fees or taxes

[cobalt blade]

Por la tasa de impuestos adicionales hasta colombia JAJA

[hoary elk]

did the 60he+ had a case included if bought bundled with alumaze?

[nova nexus]

Prebuilt comes with a plastic case, module does not

[hoary elk]

does the alumaze and zinc alu of 80he has same build material/feel?

[merry wagon]

well, the point of alumaze is that it's made from aluminium, and the point of the zinc alloy case is that it's made from a zinc alloy

I can't tell you what the difference in feel is gonna be though, I haven't looked at any comparisons and I think it'd be tough to find another case made from the same zinc alloy

[hoary elk]

i googled and zinc alloy is harder and stronger, but is zinc alloy more durable interms of longevity like corrosion etc.? sorry i missed my chem class.

[last harbor]

who has the 60he +? I preordered the 80he but im scared it might be to big. right now i own a ducky one two mini so idk if a TKL gonna be a huge difference in size or not

[hoary elk]

https://wooting.io/wooting-60he

[last harbor]

is that the 80 he

oh i see it now ty

[jade widget]

The back is the 80he and the case in the front is the 60he

[hoary elk]

nice, not much of a difference. is this TKL? i though TKL have the 3 rowfor the insert, home, page up, delete, end and page down + the print screen, scroll lock and pause/break.

[jade widget]

[merry wagon]

[nova nexus]

Both the 60HE and the 80HE come with a 4 year warranty (except LEDs, those are 2 years) and this warranty also includes the case. Some colors are anodized while some are painted, and the raw zinc is coated. For all products, the surface texture and finish is expected to stay consistent for years beyond the stated warranty. The only exception is the raw zinc, which may over time develop a new color as it ages.

[last harbor]

thanks for posting a picture instead of being brain dead and sending a random link

[nova nexus]

If you'd like a random link, here's one
https://kanikeenkortebroekaan.nl/

[hoary elk]

okay, that's good, and warranty is pretty long and good for consumers

[nova nexus]

We only make high quality products and we stand by them 😄

[hoary elk]

that's why i would stick to wooting for superb quality

[last harbor]

will the lekkers 60 v2 switches be available soon?

[nova nexus]

Yes

[hoary elk]

will you also release lekker v2 on your website soon as 80he is released in public? just incase I go with the 60he+ module and just build it with alumaze + lekker v2?

[nova nexus]

Also yes

[last harbor]

is there a confirmed date for those switches to be available or will they launch at the same time the 80 he comes out?

[nova nexus]

You can currently add them to a module order in a round about way by first making an 80HE order, adding the switches, removing the 80HE, then adding the module

[hoary elk]

oh okay. nice, thanks for this one. mr.Akbar

[nova nexus]

As soon as I have a confirmed quality assurance report from the switches and get the freight shipments scheduled, we'll make them available for purchase regularly

[idle depot]

Hello mark!

[last harbor]

thank you

[hoary elk]

incase I orders the 60he+ module+ alumaze + the lekker v2, and the lekker v2 is not yet ready for shipping due to other reason, will you ship my order together once the lekker v2 is ready or you will just ship my module and case first?

[nova nexus]

I'll be back from vacation next week and then it'll be go-time for a whole lot of fun new projects and store updates 😁

[nova nexus]

Once everything in the order is ready, it will get shipped

[lime aspen]

Fun new projects like the wooting numpad right? Right??

[jade widget]

https://tenor.com/view/volume-up-turn-knob-full-volume-loud-gif-14485574

[nova nexus]

Lol I wish... Product development isn't in my domain

[lime aspen]

We need the wooting numpad

[nova nexus]

I agree

[hoary elk]

nice work around. just need to check youtube if the module or the alumaze include all the necessary stuffs to assemble them. or am i forgetting anything? this is my 1st custom keyboard.

or the module/alumaze already have everything like donut/foams, etc? just ready to assemble?

[nova nexus]

You could get the 70 pack instead of the 90 pack for the 60HE

Other than that, maybe a wrist rest? That's preference though

[grand island]

https://tenor.com/view/jidion-gif-9759686772699862027

[hoary elk]

yes, that's also good to include. and maybe the coiled wire as well. any lube will work with it, right?

[hoary elk]

where can i see the 70 packs?
this are the only options

[nova nexus]

The detachable cable is purely for looks, but damn does it look good

[fallen epoch]

Especially in pink 😉

[nova nexus]

Oh the 70 pack might not actually be listed on the store front yet, as we set up the switch packs for the 80HE launch

[hoary elk]

okay. I will wait for the 70 pack to save some cash hahaha

[nova nexus]

Good plan

Will aim to get that listed on the storefront by the start of July

[jade widget]

Alternatively could always get the jades 👀 then it would ship faster

[fallen epoch]

Jades are nice

[idle depot]

Looking forward to the updates!!!

[fallen epoch]

Im excited to see how others raw zincs will age with time

[nova nexus]

Yea me too

What is that process called

[idle depot]

Patterns could be made if you forced oxidation.

[nova nexus]

It starts with a p but I can't remember the word haha

[idle depot]

Porcupine

[nova nexus]

Passivation? Is that it?

[idle depot]

Probably that one

[fallen epoch]

I will make a wish that my zinc would make little trees

[jade widget]

Seems like it

[nova nexus]

Close, found it: patination to create a patina pattern

[fallen epoch]

Gotta hope it turns into a free coffee zinc case

[jade widget]

Patina can look real nice

[nova nexus]

Oh my, I seem to have fallen into a rabbit hole
https://www.azahner.com/blog/innovative-zinc-patinas-and-finishes

[jade widget]

Might have to do some experiments on my zinc case 🤔

If I ruin it I can always get it cerakoted

[nova nexus]

Should probably buy a few 😉

[last harbor]

in the near future on the website will you add a feature that we can change the type of switches we want when we make the order but wooting still builds the keyboard

[light hill]

ah yes the dev giving out loopholes

thing

[violet garnet]

turning your zinc case into CS knife skin

[lime aspen]

Case hardened 80he

[nova nexus]

Unlikely, our preference is to offer a handful of prebuilt options that satisfy most customers and then facilitate the tinkerers to get whichever parts and pieces they want to have it their way, Burger King style.
It's logistically impractical to offer lots and lots of prebuilts, there's currently 12 for the 80HE, and I expect that will get reduced over the next few months

[nova nexus]

We didn't want people buying in stock modules but adding switches that would take months to be ready, that's why they weren't listed directly. But for the people who do that "loophole," they (probably) know full well what they're getting into

[valid comet]

Question, how are the Zinc Alloy boards coming with their cases, packed inside like the UwU RGB variants or as a seperate item?

[nova nexus]

Together

[valid comet]

so the zinc alloy prebuilt shows up as 1 item at checkout and will be inside the case inside the 80HE box

definitely reminds me of my UwU Stealth

[nova nexus]

That's correct

The travel case is being used as a component of the packaging to keep the keyboard safe during travel

[valid comet]

Awesome!

so excited for august

80HE right before my bday

[molten ember]

optimum case and keycaps isit available for the 80he?

[buoyant solstice]

No. It is a 60HE collab.

[harsh agate]

is it out?

the collab

[buoyant solstice]

It is not.

[harsh agate]

aw

also, what switches are light for the 60he?

find these a bit too heavy unlike my previous steelseries, so might swap them

no point lubing it

[buoyant solstice]

What do you have now, L60?

[tight cypress]

L45s are lighter than L60s which come by default

[buoyant solstice]

L45 are ... well 15g lighter. And there's also custom L30 springs if you want to go further and don't mind pulling and opening your switches.

[harsh agate]

whatever comes with the 60he+

[buoyant solstice]

Yep

[harsh agate]

are the jades any lighter?

[tight cypress]

Jades are 30~50g so slightly lighter

[harsh agate]

let me see what the steelseries had, because i liked that one

no offence wooting, still love youse

[tight cypress]

Which keyboard?

[harsh agate]

apex pro 2023

[tight cypress]

30~50 too

[harsh agate]

sooo, would you say go with the jades?

[jade widget]

Jades are nice 👌

[harsh agate]

give those a crack then, i just feel that these switches are a bit too heavy for me

[tight cypress]

Either Jades or KS-20 Whites, both are 30~50

[valid comet]

hello

[harsh agate]

i dont see the ks on the website

[tight cypress]

Ah, Wooting store, then yeah, only Jades and Lekkers

[verbal solar]

Imma go with L45

[nova nexus]

I love your charts Calslock

[verbal solar]

But i need the sound of it

[harsh agate]

that should be pinned in keyboard modding

[nova nexus]

Indeed

As if people read the pins

[harsh agate]

i do

but im one out of many so

[harsh agate]

37g is apparently the force for the apex pro tkl

hmmmmmm

still want it lighter anyways, ill get the jades

[tight cypress]

37gf is a default actuation point
You can set it freely on both Wootings and Apex Pro though

[harsh agate]

oh nah, im talking about the initial force

[tight cypress]

Same with Mini

[harsh agate]

its the same as what i have now?

[tight cypress]

This is Apex Pro 2023

[harsh agate]

huh, then what do i find different?

i feel the apex pro tkl 2023 switches was lighter when clicking

smoother too i suppose

[tight cypress]

Well, L60s which come with 60HE+ by default are 40~60gf, so they may be noticeably heavier

[harsh agate]

why "40-60"? just curious

also isnt the steelseries one also 40?

allegedly

[tight cypress]

40gf is initial force, 60gf is bottom-out force
With HE/analog keyboards/switches there's no singular actuation point like with mechanical ones

By default Apex Pro has switches actuation set to 1.8mm, hence why 37gf (or about 40gf)

[pastel edge]

70 switch pack enough to replace all of the switches in 80he?

[harsh agate]

oh i see

[harsh agate]

skip f row, dont think you would need it

[pastel edge]

nah

[harsh agate]

my bad

[tight cypress]

84/85/88 for the whole keyboard

[pastel edge]

70+12+12 it is then

x)

[harsh agate]

got it. So for the same feeling as the apex pro tkl, what switch would you suggest?

[buoyant solstice]

Just get a 90 pack.

[pastel edge]

oh, that doesn't seem to be an option on the website for l45/l60's

[tight cypress]

Either Jades or KS-20 Whites, which you can get straight from Gateron for example
And then changing actuation point to 1.6~2.0mm or thereabouts

iirc there were plans for 20-pack of switches?

[nova nexus]

You can with this pro stat

[nova nexus]

Yes

[harsh agate]

hell nah, 0.1MM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wait those switches can do that still right?

[tight cypress]

Sure, just that Jades have 3.5mm of travel distance instead of usual 4.0mm

[jade widget]

Me buying 105 switches for my tkl

[quartz trellis]

35 switches per pack sounds weird...

[harsh agate]

closer to the steelseries one

[tight cypress]

Quite standard, 2 packs for 60/65%, 3 packs for 75%/TKL/full-size

[quartz trellis]

the SteelSeries switches are blatant, cheap and crappy copies of the Lekker switches

wouldn't be surprised if they get produced by Gateron too

[harsh agate]

i mean

didnt they literally come up with the whole low actuation thing

[quartz trellis]

nope

[harsh agate]

im pretty sure they did back in 2020

[quartz trellis]

at that time Wooting was selling the Two HE already

[harsh agate]

oh dang

hm

idk, i like the weight and how the apex feels

[quartz trellis]

they're similar to L45 switches

very slightly lighter, but not by much, so the L45's are the closest ones to compare to

[harsh agate]

closer to ks20 whites or jades

[molten ember]

wait you can add 20 switches into the 80he order or you cannot

[buoyant solstice]

12, 70 or 90

[quartz trellis]

they're saying 45 cN

so they're indeed very similar to the L45s

[molten ember]

isit possible to get the keycaps on a discounted price when i buy it individually because i am planning to get it separately from the 80he module and zinc alloy case to avoid getting tax in my country

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[molten ember]

[buoyant solstice]

Time to find a package forwarder.

[molten ember]

have wooting change their delivery pricing as well last time if i get something that doesnt weigh much the price would be cheper seem to be fix now

or isit cause of own country

[upper helm]

Hi

How do I get flair

[tight cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hmRHWZSeXw

[upper helm]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dropped-this-king-you-dropped-this-queen-you-dropped-this-you-dropped-this-king-meme-you-dropped-this-meme-gif-25206668

[blissful hamlet]

Why is now September the Shipping Date for Wooting 80he? Jesus,thought Juli or August?

[red heart]

Because the first batch is full

[buoyant solstice]

It's always been (very late) July or early August for batch 1, which was only available during the founder's campaign (except for the very last day)

Batch 2 has always been September.

[quartz trellis]

initially the first batch to be shipped was estimated for mid August

[buoyant solstice]

Batch 1* US orders with expedited show as very late July. Standard shipping are in August now iirc

[blazing fjord]

i hope they ship it to me early, since the order my current keyboard is gonna die

some keys doesnt work anymore

[red heart]

I dont think itll be early like that

Cause production will finish end of july and then they get air shipped to the warehouses

[blazing fjord]

u think august is realisitc if i life in EMEA Region?

[red heart]

Only way you get it early like that is if by some miracle the production is done early

[red heart]

Idk how long shipping takes for you from europe

Just assume very late july start date and then add x days to account for shipping time

[blazing fjord]

alright

Bro i waited so long and im not even interested in competitive Games anymore haha

[red heart]

I dont even play competitive games really

I just want to have a good gaming keyboard that‘s an upgrade from my wooting one

[blazing fjord]

i have the Logitech G PRO TKL

i hope this is gonna be a upgrade

but it should, the new keyboard cost me over 100€ more then my current keyboard

[red heart]

Sounds like it‘ll be an upgrade in every way imaginable

[blazing fjord]

which games do u play and where u come from?

[red heart]

I mainly play for fun gamemodes in lol, path of exile and monster hunter

Also some warframe

[icy cosmos]

Another week off the waiting list. Let’s celebrate that 🥳

[tight cypress]

Monday

[red heart]

Monday

[shadow acorn]

Hey i've got a question, I've bought keycaps for my 80he for when it comes because i accidently ordered the keyboard without keycaps. how do i know that the keycaps will fit (Mostly space bar)

[buoyant solstice]

Need to make sure they match your physical layout. ANSI, ISO or JIS

And that your bottom row looks as thus.

(Well except for the last key on the right, but it's about the size of the keycaps specifically)

[shadow acorn]

Appreciate it.

[shadow acorn]

So will the space bar have 2 plastic clips under on both sides and in the middle, Or will it have 1 in the sides and middle?

[buoyant solstice]

Uh.... what

[shadow acorn]

can i send pics here

[tight cypress]

1 stabilizer stem on each side and one switch stem in the middle

[shadow acorn]

Yeah thats what i thought it will be

most keyboards have 1 on each side and 1 in middle

[small rune]

First batch any delay?

[tight cypress]

Nope, everything's on track

[buoyant solstice]

Well we did adjust estimates by a week or so a while back to make it more realistic.

[upbeat berry]

im not sure if thats a question or statement

[shell monolith]

Just a month and a half away from the keyboard 🫡

[oak jungle]

guys is there an option to pay for faster delivery ?

other than the options provided to you

[nova nexus]

All of the available shipping options are presented at the time of checkout

[oak jungle]

so other than those there is none?

[nova nexus]

Correct

[icy cosmos]

That´s the default meme of the day 🤔 ( I mean the dealy of shippment questions)

[upbeat berry]

i meant mansens message

cause the words suggest its a question but the end is a period suggesting its a statement

[buoyant solstice]

[stone crater]

good

[oak jungle]

Yikes no much time left for the keyboard to be produced by China

[icy cosmos]

Well, I would argue, thank god it´s manufacturing in China. If anyone can meet deadlines it´s China. 😅

[late quarry]

What’s 1st batch’s expected ship date, I pre ordered months back but forgot if it said June or july

[buoyant solstice]

August.

Maybe very, very late July if you got into the first batch and got expedited shipping in the Us.
Maybe.

[high scroll]

so early august is the first batch ?

[late quarry]

I remember is being either mid June or july so it might be the July

[buoyant solstice]

Asks question, ignores answer

[late quarry]

I did the founders

I’m not ignoring I just specifically remember it being a J month

[buoyant solstice]

And I answered that question for you 😄

[late quarry]

Well shieeet looks like I’m waiting till aug 😫🫠

[oak jungle]

and we will wait till sep

[molten ember]

which colourway is the most bought for the zinc alloy

also will the black zinc alloy material last longer than the raw one

[hearty sky]

its time for new 80he video .. isn't it?

[oak jungle]

another week another update

[spark hound]

fridays

[late quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvS4DgugI8

[buoyant solstice]

Once every other week, livestreams on the other weeks.

https://youtu.be/Te51ewVQEPA
Last update video - straight from Computex

[molten ember]

mansen which colourway will last the longest

[buoyant solstice]

Ask me in ten years.

[molten ember]

HAHA

contemplating between raw zinc and black zinc

[red heart]

Raw zinc cause its cool

And if it does get a patina you can act as if that was intended in the first place

[midnight iron]

The long term play is to press your face against the back of the raw zinc case every day for 3 years

Get a nice facial pattern patina on the back

[molten ember]

whats a panita

which colourway did you get @midnight iron

[red heart]

If you do it long enough you can unlock your phone with the back of your keyboard

[midnight iron]

Raw zinc of course

[silk hedge]

I thought you were the leader of the white zinc case cult?

[midnight iron]

I’m a multi role cult leader

These days it’s important for cult leaders to diversify

[zenith echo]

I want to order wooting 80he but don’t know how much it will cost for the import duties and tax so it’s scaring me 💀

[pseudo parrot]

this depends on your country. best to check your country customs website for more info

[zenith echo]

That’s the thing my country’s customs website is shit honestly.
Browser always gives me warning that this website is not safe lol.

[buoyant solstice]

What country? Most countries have websites with fairly clear info.

[zenith echo]

Nepal

[buoyant solstice]

Oh boy.

[opaque panther]

Forgot that was even a country

[buoyant solstice]

Hey now China. Down boy.

[opaque panther]

What about china

[pseudo parrot]

i believe this site can be of help
wooting uses HS code: 84716060
https://nepaltradeportal.gov.np/duty-calculator

[zenith echo]

It doesn’t work 💀

[pseudo parrot]

hmm then im not sure sorry

[zenith echo]

No worries 🥲

[jade raptor]

Hi where can I talk to contact support about my product?

[upbeat berry]

[e-mail] send us an email

[jade raptor]

Sent 👍

[last harbor]

Do you know roughly the import fees to Canada will be?

[buoyant solstice]

So here's the thing. You replied to me - literally - googling.

Do you think the correct thing to do is ask - ME at that point 😄

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-teachable-moment-rich-rebuilds-life-lessons-you-can-learn-from-this-learning-experience-gif-22573761

[last harbor]

You’re just a very beautiful and intelligent person I trust you more than google 😭

[buoyant solstice]

[pseudo parrot]

wholesome

[buoyant solstice]

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html
This migiht be of help

No.... wait... waaiiiiit

[pseudo parrot]

canada pays duties on checkout

[buoyant solstice]

Those brain cells are braining. We use DDP for Canada! It's all IN the checkout!
Vibe beat my cells to it.

[pseudo parrot]

[last harbor]

In the past I been screwed over when I payed in checkout and then I get $200+ fee from FedEx or UPS

[last harbor]

Ty for the link

[urban ice]

Hi guys, it’s pretty difficulte for me deciding between the plastic case and the zinc alloy. Any suggestions or pros and cons?
Thanks !

[buoyant solstice]

Weight, sound, feel. It's not going to make you a worse or better gamer.

Which do you like the look of more? Do you mind spending what a zinc case costs?

[urban ice]

It's all about the feeling, and never been on that type of keyboard. So don't really know what could be the real difference, except the price.
And my choice is between the black plastic and the black zinc

[oak jungle]

go for plastic the case doesn't look that good " zinc "

[merry wagon]

why is it called zinc alloy if it consists of aluminum, copper, magnesium and iron?

[urban ice]

Where did you find any things, to really check the differences ?

[oak jungle]

the diff is the sound only other than that there is no dif if you wanna check by yourself write in youtube ( plastic case vs aluminum? ) I forgot the word

[glad fable]

because it's a combination of metals, making it an alloy

[merry wagon]

not true, zinc case is way heavier

[oak jungle]

yeah for shore but I mean while using it not while left it up

[merry wagon]

yes but "zinc alloy" implies it would be an alloy of zinc, i.e. contain zinc

[glad fable]

They probably didn't include zinc and listed the other metals that were combined with it

[buoyant solstice]

Because alloy means it's primarily Zinc with other metals mixed in to improve the overall result.

Bronze is tin and copper. Sum of it's parts.

Steel comes in a ton of different mixes depending on the use.

[merry wagon]

I know how alloys work, but this is more about how it's said on the website. "The material of the case consists of a mixture of aluminum, copper, magnesium and iron."

[urban ice]

So the main difference is the sound ? If it's only that I'm gonna check on YT
Thanks for your time 🙂

[glad fable]

I mean judging from the name you'd probably know it has zinc in it, so they just listed the other metals included instead 🤷‍♂️

[oak jungle]

yeah and as someone said it's heavy but I guess you don't really care about the wight

[merry wagon]

Indeed you would, but I think it should still be mentioned when you say what the case consists of, especially if it primarily consists of that.

[oak jungle]

weight ? wieght?

[buoyant solstice]

Phrased like that? Where? I can definitely look into that 👀

[merry wagon]

Here https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-zinc-alloy-case

[buoyant solstice]

Ah yes. I see it now. I fully blame our dear Dutch staff who can't English perfectly.

I'll pass it on

[urban ice]

I won't be carrying while gaming 🙂

[merry wagon]

[jagged owl]

So this is where Mansen hang out

Sup

[merry wagon]

heavy is good for gaming, since then your keyboard won't move around as much. Not so much for travel, though

[oak jungle]

then check on the yt for sound and pick what you prefer oh u will wear headset I don't think you will care about the sound either LOL

[glad fable]

ngl they probably read the name which includes zinc, and then it completely slipped over their mind to type it down too lol

[buoyant kite]

We dutchies know how to Nenglish perfectly fine

[buoyant solstice]

I ain't here. Poof

[buoyant kite]

what are you smoking?

[oak jungle]

yeah you right on this one plastic will slide around a bit

[jagged owl]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-ghost-gif-4978918

[glad fable]

As long as I have a carrying case and my keyboard looks cool, I'll bring it with me if I ever needed it to travel c:<

[merry wagon]

It all depends on what you do to dampen the sound I think. I've heard plastic can sound hollow if there isn't enough foam or something, while it's easier with metallic cases

[sharp wharf]

Look no further!
https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik?t=301

Though I think this is a bit outdated(?) I'm not sure

[glad fable]

tbh plastic does overall sound deeper

[jagged owl]

Verified through personal experience ✅

[oak jungle]

zinc will make the keyboard sound cleaner I guess

[jagged owl]

Berry berry tru

[glad fable]

yeah I still do prefer metal

Plastic sometimes sounds too muted, somewhat like being underwater 🤔

[buoyant kite]

i prefer metal purely for longevity

[jagged owl]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-i-am-under-the-water-gif-20279509

I mean if the isolation from the gasket mounting system helps it seperate the sound acoustic from the case then that's good

[merry wagon]

eh I have some boof plastic 60% from like 2019/2020 and it still looks the same as it did when it arrived

[jagged owl]

Including with the "Wooting Special Foam" (I'm exaggerating) it should help with any unnecessary sound bouncing around in the Alu/ZINC case

[jagged owl]

I mean Zinc is denser than Aluminum iirc, to be in fact it is also stronger than alu. So by chance this should allow the board to be "A lot?" less pingy and sound more full or cleaner. So yea you could be correct

[urban ice]

Aya ! Guys giving me so much information, getting harder for me to make my choice !
I have been waiting for 4 years now to find the perfect key board so don't really care about the money.
I want to keep it as long as possible.

[jagged owl]

And btw to state a fact, CAM said this one point, “The pitch of a sound is largely determined by the mass (weight) of the vibrating object. Generally, the greater the mass, the more slowly it vibrates and the lower the pitch.”

[urban ice]

Wich one (zinc alloy vs plastic) will be quieter ?

[dim sierra]

Plastic

[slim viper]

gotta question, i want to pre-order a 80he, however where i live the standard for mail is p.o boxes, would that cause any hiccups in the shipping process (Newfoundland, Canada)

[lime aspen]

Metal feels way better though, and tbh the difference in "loudness" is very minimal

[lime aspen]

It shouldn't, I live in a small town in bc that uses po boxes and was fine

Although mine was just keycaps and PC plate, still lived in the city when I ordered my 60he

[slim viper]

our p.o boxes are inside our local post office, so someplaces are iffy with sending like that but will send to the post office directly lmao, find it really funky on amazon sometimes, they wont do p.o boxes but they see the post office itself as a verified drop off spot lol

[lime aspen]

It should be fine with wooting, but you can wait for a staff member to verify it for sure, could also send them an email

[timid garden]

It seems that both the PCR and the zinc cases sound really good, I do wonder how the PCR case feels compared to the metal case though

[oak jungle]

the ghost looks cleeeeeeean

[lime aspen]

Metal will always feel better imo

Heavy metal case makes the brain happy

[oak jungle]

you need to wait for better looking case like the ones they have for the 60he that's why better to wait

[timid garden]

Im in the boat where I’ll just buy a new case and transfer everything over if I find something really cool

Too impatient to wait

[quasi mortar]

The Wooting guys are really good at building up the hype, I got pretty excited after their latest few production updates

Regardless if 8 kHz polling (which they promoted a lot) is going to have a negligible impact, this keyboard is really gonna be a huge upgrade over what I have currently

[primal portal]

wait so, zinc alloy or plastic ghost, hmm

[quasi mortar]

White zinc alloy looks the best personally

[slim viper]

ill be going with white zinc

[icy cosmos]

Good engineering isn’t hype though 🤣

[quasi mortar]

It is to me 🙂

[verbal solar]

Some one has a plastic case ghost one

[last harbor]

I chose plastic ghost :p

[daring axle]

obligatory the wait to get my keyboaard that i ordered knowing it was preproduction is soooo long. ( yes i understand and am not upset about it at all, just adhd and impatient.)

[last harbor]

I’m like that too I feel your pain. I been debating to refund the 80he just so I can get the 60he+. (Currently own 60% keyboard and it’s double typing and starting to not work.)

[last harbor]

It’s coming out at the end of July we almost there 💪

[last harbor]

The voices are telling me to get all of them😭

Quick question what’s the wooting Uwu meant for? Is it just a gimmick to play with for people with adhd or there’s another purpose to it?

[nova nexus]

It's designed for osu! specifically, but I use it for media controls

[last harbor]

Okay thank you for letting me know. I was curious about buying it.

[daring axle]

ive used a 60 and i cant do it. theres something about it. i know i almost never use the f row but not having it feels wrong and i cant stand it so the smallest i can go is a 75%. i know its close but yeah, adhd is a thing.

[last harbor]

I see. I don’t mind not having F keys but if that’s your preference then just stick to the 80he. The launch is almost here just be patient my friend, it will be worth the wait once you get it

It’ll be like when you wake up in the middle of the night with dry mouth as if you been in the desert sun for 40days and 40 nights and you get a taste of that nice cold water as if it was blessed by the gods themselves

[daring axle]

that was me finally finding a book ive spent 9 months looking for a copy of. which happened very recently actually

[last harbor]

Hell yeah brother 💪

[valid comet]

using transparency for building hype is the best way to do it.

omg i have a little icon :O

[valid comet]

I have one if you have questions

[cerulean adder]

im sure this has been asked a thousand times. but im really wanting to get the 80 due to it having arrow keys. gonna have to get used to the size. but does anyone know how long 3rd parties usually take to make cases? im thinking of getting the barebones and getting a purple case in the future

[nova nexus]

Expect a minimum of a six month lead time, more likely 12 to 18, for the first 3rd party case being made (if it happens)

[cerulean adder]

Thank you, really wanting to get one but if im gonna change the case in the future think ima just get the barebones, with the plastic case and all that for now

[nova nexus]

Makes sense, you can always pick up a zinc case later

[cerulean adder]

yeah very true, been playing with an aluminum case for a while now, just didnt want to go back to plastic. hoping it isnt that much of a difference

[pliant goblet]

i love 80he

[cerulean adder]

such a hard choice

[last harbor]

where do i find the barebones item you are speaking about? can you send a link please

[glad fable]

Should be an option when you look at the options when ordering the 80he

It's the 80HE Module

[last harbor]

what do you use your for?

[valid comet]

mostly geometry dash, kinda goes hard ngl

[last harbor]

unfortunately i dont see it :/

just see the pcr plastic cases and zinc alloy cases

[glad fable]

really?

weird

[last harbor]

you dont understand what im searching for

they said it was 3rd party bare bones...

[nova nexus]

They used incorrect terminology to refer to the module as barebones

[glad fable]

I thought it was a 3rd party case they wanted?

[last harbor]

thank you, for clearing the confusion

[glad fable]

ah

[nova nexus]

We do technically offer a barebones in the form of iso prebuilt that doesn't include keycaps, but they were talking about just getting a module and case and no switches or keycaps

[jade widget]

But the module is a barebones it's just a keyboard kit without the switches and keycaps

[last harbor]

im new to keyboard modding and by the way the person was talking i thought wooting offer different cases i didnt see thus the confusion with everyone but mark cleared everything up

[nova nexus]

Well kinda, we force people to also get some kind of case but technically that's a different product

[tight violet]

can the wooting still do 8k using the usb c to a dongle

[nova nexus]

The only Wooting keyboard that can do 8k is the 80HE

Irrespective of dongle

[jade widget]

True forgot about that, is that going to be the case until someone makes a third party case?

[nova nexus]

Yes

Otherwise someone will buy it without a case thinking they can get it elsewhere and be sad

[jade widget]

Can always make a cardboard case

[nova nexus]

Indeed, but then they'd just need to reach out to our customer support to make a custom order

[cerulean adder]

my bad thought barebones meant module

[bright spear]

How does rappy snappy work?

Is there an in depth explanation

[last harbor]

i see i see

[sonic kindle]

If your planning to build your own with a wooting case I would recommend the zinc alloy case

[last harbor]

yeah they look amazing but the pricing on it😭

[sonic kindle]

Plastic is always good then

[last harbor]

its because CAD aint worth shiiiiiiii

[sonic kindle]

LOL

Do you care about how it sounds

[last harbor]

ty for the recommendations though

[last harbor]

i like that thoc sound

and if it isnt too loud

[sonic kindle]

Huh then maybe plastic is better for you

I would also get ks20 dual rail switches

And that's really it it will thock

[last harbor]

i see i'll add that into my notes for when i build one, the pcr ghost case looks clean

[valid comet]

oh those orange gateron switches?

[sonic kindle]

Yeah thockiest switch

[last harbor]

someone told me about lavender switches and said they were good (mb if i dont know the name of the switch)

[valid comet]

hi dan

[sonic kindle]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779

[valid comet]

that would likely be Cam

[sonic kindle]

Hope that helps

[valid comet]

he uses lavenders

[sonic kindle]

Yeah cam is a neo lavender simp

[valid comet]

does the word Neo tend to indicate a modern refresh or twist in universal product lingo

[lime aspen]

im gonna be picking some up due to his recommendation

[sonic kindle]

Some people love neo lavender and some people don't try them out

[sonic kindle]

Hey lol (I forgot to reply)

[lime aspen]

he described them as poppier jades which intrigues me as i dont entirely like the clack

[valid comet]

im getting 90 jades along with my 80HE

[last harbor]

it does thank you. should i buy their lube kit from the wooting website as well?

[sonic kindle]

If you want thock don't get lavender then

[last harbor]

what sound does that sound like?

[lime aspen]

^

[sonic kindle]

Unless you are super nit picky no

[valid comet]

i like the mahjong clack of the jades

[sonic kindle]

Like deep

Clack is a medium pitched sound

[lime aspen]

cam described lavenders as a poppy sounding jade switch, and jades are clacky

thock is like the complete opposite of jades

[valid comet]

theyre not a high pitched click tho

[lime aspen]

clicky switches are cursed

[last harbor]

interesting i have to look up how these switches sound. i currently have a ducky one 2 mini 60% with cherry mx brown switches

[sonic kindle]

I like jades because they sound like mx not he

[valid comet]

i still like the distinct sound of HE

[sonic kindle]

Does it sound deep or high pitch

[last harbor]

i would say medium sound

the blue mx switches are the loudest. The browns are like a type writer feeling

[valid comet]

something I woukd love to see is silent HE switches with long poles, but how

[last harbor]

i was about to get silent cherry red switches but end up getting the brown.

[sonic kindle]

Then I would go ks20 dual rail switches to replicate

[last harbor]

ok ty !

[sonic kindle]

Rest is up to you

[last harbor]

i want to build a keyboard but not trying to spend too much money on it since it'll be my first build

just incase i mess up

[valid comet]

dual rail switches are really nice

i have dual rail KS-37 switches on my Q1 HE

[jade widget]

For my first proper custom I'm going super cheap @icy charm

I only realized recently that it's going to break the import $1000 limit and I'm going to have to pay an extra 15%

[icy charm]

wym?

[jade widget]

I was joking my first proper custom is going to be the Jane

[icy charm]

[jade widget]

And there's PCB + extras on top of the base fee 💸

[sonic kindle]

Trust me these are almost impossible to mess up if you keep it simple

[last harbor]

you underestimate my luck 😈

lol just joking

[last lynx]

I assume the process of assembling the 80HE Module is basically the exact same as the 60HE right?

[buoyant solstice]

Almost.

Gotta connect an internal cable for the USB daughterboard, and click together the case if PCR

[naive adder]

Do the l45 v2 switches come pre lubed?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - ALL switches we sell are lubed during assembly at the factory 😄

[naive adder]

Oh okay, thanks

[austere scaffold]

80he looks like the space80

[spark hound]

keyboard looks like other keyboard

[wind tiger]

what

space80 looks like a 1.2og

[quartz trellis]

uh...

that's a TKL imo

[red heart]

Those caps lock caps with bump on em

I‘d like to try one of those but i dont think they work with the boards i have

[quartz trellis]

oh lol, just noticed it's missing the Win/Dash and Menu button

[wind tiger]

yea they need an offset mounting

[red heart]

[wind tiger]

yea it is WKL

[humble cargo]

I have an ancient board with that style of caps but of course its some proprietary mounts

[wind tiger]

CWKL is even funnier

[wind tiger]

that would be somewhat rare, you sure it isn't just alps mount?

[humble cargo]

could be, am not super schooled on all the mounting types out there

iirc its like a cylinder underneath the caps

[wind tiger]

alps mounting is just a square

[humble cargo]

should note its not a fancier old board with proper mech switches but rather some type of membrane

[wind tiger]

ahhhh

maybe some mitsumi stuff or something idk

tbh while I prefer stepped caps it doesn't really make a big difference in use to me

[humble cargo]

well it mighta been a bit harder to press by accident having a bit of gap from the A key

[wind tiger]

yea

but I rebound caps anyways to be used as a compose key

[humble cargo]

am using it as an fn key on my wootings so doesn't matter too much anymore if I do an oopsie press

[wind tiger]

[humble cargo]

such a beaut

artifact of the beige age 1900 A.D.

[wind tiger]

if you want one I still have several G80-1501HADs

without caps tho

[humble cargo]

vintage cherry board?

[wind tiger]

yea

from the german health system

got a built in KVK reader, don't ask me how it works tho

[upbeat berry]

kvk as in the german health insurance card not kvk as in the dutch business number

[wind tiger]

lol yea, a krankenversicherungskartenleser

[upbeat berry]

blackmagic and drivers

[wind tiger]

something along those lines

[humble cargo]

lucky hospital staff having mech kbs at work, guessing that's not the case anymore

[upbeat berry]

needs more these days than just the reader anyway since they all need the KV intranet

[upbeat berry]

if they still work they are still used.

[humble cargo]

probably horrid oem membrane boards everywhere in gov these days

[wind tiger]

yea they replaced the model around 2000 to a membrane

and I think they had MY versions as well

I bought a few of them just for the mx blacks in them lol

[humble cargo]

here most institutions, schools etc were already using membranes in the early/mid 90s for most part

[jade widget]

Got these at my local hosptial

HP everywhere

[humble cargo]

decent-ish membranes like keytronics but still

[bright jewel]

why is this so nostalgic holy shit

[humble cargo]

what if I told you it has a coiled cable too, from factory

enough to make any zoomer salivate

[jade widget]

The old phone kind of cable

https://tenor.com/view/old-phone-rotary-dial-telephone-gif-16838653

[humble cargo]

yep, I developed allergy towards coiled cables from growing up in the 90s, I don't understand the fascination with slapping one on your modern usb keyboard

let alone paying extra to have it

[wind tiger]

the modern ones are even worse

since they aren't functional in any way

[humble cargo]

right, it just takes up more space on your desk and attracts dust/dirt

[wind tiger]

and the coils just desintegrate if you touch it in a bad way

[upbeat berry]

btw those can still work with adapters

[humble cargo]

[sullen iris]

I remember those phones. And we had to share a line with a neighbour.

[humble cargo]

there's just something amusing to me about these heavy dooty "aircraft grade" screw-on connectors on coiled cables

when the two main connecting ends are still small, brittle usb plugs

[wind tiger]

you mean the ones that now fell out of favor for sleeker alternatives like lemo

[humble cargo]

oh that trend has died off huh

[wind tiger]

I mean lemo is still massive overkill in comaprison to USB

[humble cargo]

yeah they still look huge

[wind tiger]

I just have one to have multiple device ends

[wind tiger]

nah

lemo is rather thin

[icy cosmos]

HP is done a good work filling up Dell and Lenovo absent in the Enterprise environment

[icy cosmos]

That looks like my power cable for the Red camera 🤣

Wish it would have been able to be powered by USB C 🤣

[wind tiger]

quite possible that they use that

[humble cargo]

tbh as small and convenient as modern usb-c and all that is I'd like to see a more rugged port standard for certain niche uses

[jolly tangle]

tableslam

[quartz trellis]

lightning?

[jolly tangle]

lemo is a brand

bonk bonk

[upbeat berry]

smth like clr?

[humble cargo]

I don't like the trend of usb-c power being slapped onto basically everything these days including pro gear otherwise ment to withstand some wear and abuse out in the field

[upbeat berry]

for power smth like yamahas old XLR2 would prob be a damn well good rugged standard

but also chonky af cause cant really make rugged small

[icy cosmos]

Just make a pro USBC connector 🤣

I have some HDMI systems with a bracket that secures the cable

[humble cargo]

yeah, heck even a damn dc barrel plug will survive a lot more and much easier to replace should it for some reason get trashed

[upbeat berry]

dc barrel jack isnt really rugged though

[humble cargo]

but its also too weak imo

[upbeat berry]

they break so easily

and if you talk the more beefy ones like dell they have a very easily broken middle pin

nice chonk to connect

solid pins

and keyed

[humble cargo]

that's kinda where the downfall first started, going from internal psus with a chunky 3-pin connector to barrel jack and wallwart and eventually ending up with super fragile usb-c/micro

[upbeat berry]

well the downfall is thinner and thinner

portability is always smth thatll get influenced with more chunky but rugged connectors

[humble cargo]

yeah, and for consoomer electronics that makes sense for most part

[upbeat berry]

heck even for data you could have XLR4 and adapt it to have normal USB ends

[humble cargo]

but professionals typically expect a certain functionality and lifetime of their equipment, and weedy little usb plugs isn't exactly confidence inspiring

[humble cargo]

yeah figured if there were to be a rugged usb port standard it would have to support the lot, not just power

closest I can think of is like, usb-b

[neat ether]

Are there big differences between the Two HE and 80HE?

[wind tiger]

[red heart]

Layout

[wind tiger]

that ain't a lot of io

[wind tiger]

oh and you get the choice between having a PSU or a battery

[wind tiger]

on later revisions that is , normally you only get a powersupply

[quartz trellis]

add friction mount to the 60HE

[red heart]

Tell that to calslock

[quartz trellis]

@tight cypress

[red heart]

I didnt make this graphic i just stole it

[lime aspen]

friction mount my beloved

[wind tiger]

I tadpole mounted mine

[red heart]

Tf is a tadpole mount

[wind tiger]

also I would argue it is not a gasket mount unless you use an entirely different case

[red heart]

Does it grow into a frog after a while?

[wind tiger]

top mount but instead of screws you use a rubber insert that looks like a tadpole

[lime aspen]

isnt that what frog mini uses

[wind tiger]

it is used in geons frog keyboards if that counts

[red heart]

Ah

[upbeat berry]

thats why we said friction or well calder did in the stream

[wind tiger]

👍

[upbeat berry]

gasked to us is what the 80he has where a gasket gets screwed between the top and bottom cases to 100% decouble the board

[wind tiger]

technically people used the term "isolation gasket" for that before, if you only dampen on one side and got a hard mount on the other side it is not rally a gasket mount tho

not like the friction mount really dampens the mounting itself at all

[upbeat berry]

its just a screwless mounting method from what i can tell

[wind tiger]

essentially, but you add a rubber o-ring that keeps the module in place and somewhat dampens it's vertical movement

[errant sequoia]

It would be better if there is a wireless option for the 80HE. 😃

[wind tiger]

not with the powerdraw of hall effect boards

[humble cargo]

also introducing additional latency on a board designed inside out to be as responsive and low latency as technologically possible

sure wireless is pretty darn quick these days, but still

[wind tiger]

if done well expect ~0.4ms

[red heart]

Yeah but have you considered the upside of removing the cable from the keyboard, a piece of equipment that you move so very often unlike a mouse

[wind tiger]

or less even

[humble cargo]

I do see the appeal of wireless kb in some instances, but for your gaming pc not so much

[wind tiger]

agreed

as a HTPC board for example

but I would prefer something less bulky like this https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-b1-pro-ultra-slim-wireless-keyboard

[dim sierra]

I wonder what v3 pro latency is

[wind tiger]

should be basically the same as the v3 hyperspeed

[dim sierra]

Should be lower if assuming they improved it 💀

[wind tiger]

afaik is very similar tech wise

[dim sierra]

V3 pro technically has the best sensor in the market rn but click latency idk

[wind tiger]

iirc difference is just motion sync behaviour at 8khz

[dim sierra]

Razer has exclusive rights to the latest sensor, the other are using sensors that razor used 1-2 years ago iirc

[wind tiger]

yes, still that is the difference iirc

[dim sierra]

Im a motion sync hater and razer 8k hz and motion sync both doesnt feel good imo

[wind tiger]

yea motion sync is bait

[dim sierra]

Wlmouse is what i recommend these days, cheap and decent

[icy cosmos]

Maybe we should run with rc cars-connectors 🤣

[midnight iron]

Lmao so it seems drunkdeers custom socd wooting clone is literally just using auto hotkey script

[buoyant solstice]

Neat

[wind tiger]

lol

[midnight iron]

High latency and can get you banned. What a joke lol

[drowsy lynx]

I just ordered a Sora V2 to go together with the 80HE. I wonder what will arrive first 😄

[pastel edge]

lol really?

[brittle vapor]

i ordered my uwu yesterday and it’s coming today?

what the fuck shipping is so fast

[flint agate]

[timid garden]

I love my razer viper 8k, I know high polling rate is effectively worthless but its got some placebo value atleast

[upbeat berry]

for mice its quite valuable

[oak jungle]

where is the superlight 2 with 4k polling man ?

[wind tiger]

Polling rate alone doesn't do much for that lol

[midnight iron]

yep - the people with the tester version of it confirmed that's their 'rappy snappy' right now

[pastel edge]

x]

[midnight iron]

literally just very uncustomizable auto scripts that are banned in some games

[toxic zephyr]

chinese gonna chinese

[dark saffron]

hello

[tepid lodge]

does the keyboard have usb c input? i want to connect my headphones

[buoyant solstice]

None of our keyboards have passthrough or any kind of IN-put.

You plug the keyboard into the PC using the one cable - that's it.

[tepid lodge]

okey also the pcba - is it spill resistant?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[midnight iron]

some testers who have it in drunkdeer discord and other places

basically it seems all the chinese rappy snappy copies are doing this. Just mimic custom socd using software, which isn't all that rappy or snappy

[valid comet]

maybe im a bit crazy but even 1k feels fine on my 1440p 360Hz display?

[steady escarp]

Yeah it’s like how the SU68 does it where it’s basically using DKS to counter strafe when you release 💀💀💀💀

[hidden crest]

1k is fine no matter what

[valid comet]

exactly, just no lower

[last harbor]

@buoyant solstice good afternoon

[midnight iron]

ah mansen loves it when he gets tagged just to say hi

[brazen hill]

I always forget I ordered the 80he then I get excited again and check the site and discord for news lol

[timid garden]

Yeah, I run 144hz so anything over 2k is practically invisible, I’m kinda basing my knowledge off optimums video where he showed that even on a 540hz monitor 4k polling rate was only ~slightly~ better than 2k in terms of smoothness, and that was at like 10x slowdown

[timid garden]

Your mouse is still sending three updates per frame so yeah, the only difference is it smooths out some jitteriness that can be seen presumably from the timing between mouse updates and new frames

Some frames get 2 mouse updates, some get 3, etc

[soft grove]

Is there a raw zinc bundle?

[buoyant solstice]

As in a prebuilt keyboard? No. But there are some discounts for an 80HE module order with a zinc case.

[fickle monolith]

When will the people apart of the founders campagne revive their keyboard?

[tight cypress]

Current batch ships in September

[buoyant solstice]

Vast majority in August. But check your hub.

[fickle monolith]

How accurate is the hub could it change from what it says?

[buoyant solstice]

It's an estimate at the end of the day. If there's a sudden, unplanned delay, that's just the reality of things.

[molten ember]

is there a picture of raw zinc with black keycaps

[slate swallow]

thoughts on the magnetic jades?

[valid comet]

nothing motionsync and ripple control cant help

[last harbor]

mb i didnt know he didnt like that

[valid comet]

also I dont play FPS games or that benefit from a high poll sensor

[jade widget]

They are very nice 👌

[gleaming garnet]

Hello! New here, im stuck between ordering the new 80HE or Drunk Deer G75 with their new tech, anyone have any thoughts!

[merry wagon]

wonder where they got this from

[gleaming garnet]

I did not think wooting had this feature? 😮

[buoyant solstice]

Personally I wouldn't trust inebriated wildlife with making complex electronics - but that's just me.

[gleaming garnet]

Is their a video showing how the rappy snappy works ?

[merry wagon]

in the image I posted it's a video

images just tend not to move

also I'm not sure this is even a real showcase, because they show (what looks to be) counter strafing while holding both buttons down, which is not a thing

if you press both A and D it's neutral, the same as not counter strafing

[gleaming garnet]

Yeah the video is slightly confusing, I am not sure if its keybinding essentially 2 keys at once to create a input

Like the space bar jump crouch further in too, that would be annoyin gon each jump lol

[merry wagon]

oh yeah... I wouldn't want that

[gleaming garnet]

But it looks like, you can set it so when you press A/D keys, it will activate the other when releasing coursing a quick counter strafe

[midnight iron]

drunkdeers clone of wootings rappy snappy so far is awful. It's just a custom auto hot key type script

[merry wagon]

yeah I think if you want quality you go with Wooting, Drunkdeer seems like a budget clone

[midnight iron]

There's some people who have early units of the g75 and it's implementation of the feature is awful right now

[gleaming garnet]

ah that sounds rubbish then!

[midnight iron]

you can literally get banned in some games for the way they've done it via janky scripting. Not to mention a script is definitely not a low latency solution

[merry wagon]

yeah I mean this just reminds me of an old CS:GO script that got people banned

like, just learn how to counter-strafe

[midnight iron]

i mean the real problem is they clearly don't have a real full time dev team. On top of their rappy snappy clone being a janky script, their current a75 board is getting brick reports regularly because their software doesn't have a way to make sure you install iso software on iso keyboard and ansi on ansi

literally something that can be fixed by any on staff dev in under a day

[gleaming garnet]

I guess there is only one winner of wooting. Been waiting for a larger keyboard as i like my f1 keys and arrows as i still play some old retrogames so will go ahead and order shortly cheers!

[midnight iron]

https://youtu.be/Te51ewVQEPA?si=oRW3TudEMCQKeFYB&t=50 timestamped

[buoyant solstice]

Imagine needing keyboard manufacturers to fix poor acceleration in your engine.

[gleaming garnet]

nice thank you! I guess you can have this and rapid trigger on ?

[midnight iron]

yep if you want

[gleaming garnet]

I am trying to order the wooting 80HE and i am super confused what is happening!! It keeps going up and down in price from 174 to 207 lol what is the price!

[midnight iron]

UK brexit stuff - it calculates it properly at the end

[gleaming garnet]

i also presume the keycaps will all come installed too

[midnight iron]

I think it depends on the layout format you pick, but if you buy the prebuilt the switches are pre installed

Putting on keycaps is super easy though. Like legos really

[gleaming garnet]

the uk stuff did not have much customisation really but im happy with the bog standard plastic and better caps

this is what i went with

[buoyant solstice]

Keycaps are separate in your order.

[gleaming garnet]

I did not have a option to buy a pre built one

[buoyant solstice]

Correct. ANSI, preassembled only.

[gleaming garnet]

ahhhh

Will be easy enough to assemble as said above though 😄

[shrewd saddle]

keeb make game go BRR

[gleaming garnet]

thank you for the help all! Looking forward to receving it around september and getting rid of this asus one 😄

[grizzled gorge]

Just ordered my 80HE. I AM SO EXCITED

[flint agate]

W

[grizzled gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-gif-10587157

[rough garden]

a

[timid garden]

i wish wooting offered just black/white blank keycaps on the module page

[buoyant solstice]

Plenty of those keycaps on the market

[timid garden]

true, theyre not exactly hard to find lol

[spring raft]

I guess the switches is pre-lubed even when you have to assemble it when you get it? (did not choose the prebuild one)

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

Would be a lot of work to take them apart and THEN lube them.

A lot easier to have the factory lube them, while assembling the switches.

[spring raft]

Awesome!

I did go for the Gateron Jade switches since I've read alot of good about them, the only thing is that the depht of the click is 3.5 mm instead of 4mm right?
Doesnt sound like a huge leap of measurement, something you'd get used to rather quick?

[rancid geyser]

Anyone know if they got a ghost case and white keycaps picture?

[oak jungle]

I didn't find any picture like this

there is none 😦

[grizzled gorge]

Can you help guide me towards keycaps that would work? I've literally spent 2 hours reading through forums and blogs from Wooting. With all the different shapes, materials, north vs south, cherry (idek what that is) it's hard to understadn what's even compatible

[tight cypress]

As long as they have mx/cross stem, 6.25u spacebar and 1.25u bottom row, they should fit just fine

[jade widget]

Pretty much any keycap set will work as long as it has a mx stem 👍

The north/south facing led isn't an issue with these keyboards

[valid comet]

i like the 1.25u abd 6.25u standard row

[fallen epoch]

I like keyboards

[weary pier]

Is NA-Champion still on track for late July? For some reason it's not on the batch update page.

[jade widget]

Can check on wooting hub depends on where in the US whether if it's late July or early August

They're both just estimates anyway

[tight cypress]

Expedited for late July, Economy for early August iirc

[weary pier]

Ty

[ornate jasper]

Let it be late July

[gleaming nymph]

When will it be out of pre production??

[hard vale]

expect it early august, heard that from the team

[fallen epoch]

August first batch, September 2nd batch if i remember correctly

[upper garden]

do you know the name of the batch for august ?

[fallen epoch]

NA Champion and EU Kampioen respectively

[upper garden]

ty

im eu kampioen 🤟 gotta link the account soon for the benfits

[fallen epoch]

[sage elk]

Anyone on wootings staff know how the iquniox ez series keyboards did against wootings 80he at the computex

[random gate]

hey I dont see my name in the wooting 80he founders page why?

and I dont received any email about anything related to founders page

[fallen epoch]

That would be located in the wooting hub if I remember correctly

[random gate]

thanks I just saw it

[fallen epoch]

[midnight iron]

They said similar performance in test - makes sense as both are proper 8k poll

[sage elk]

Who said specifically?

[jade widget]

#💬│general message

[idle knoll]

I have bought.

[hoary quiver]

So they added it alteady?

[buoyant solstice]

Weeks ago.

[hoary quiver]

Where can I check it?

Ok got it

[midnight iron]

I can't help but notice the 80he icon in discord is not white. The church of the white 80he files a formal complaint

[jolly tangle]

your complaint has been thrown out the window raw zinc alloy traitor.