🌟│wooting80he

[quartz trellis]

and manual handbrake

[tardy heath]

and a welded dif 🙂

[quartz trellis]

nah, an LSD does fine

[tardy heath]

rotary engines ? or normal engines ?

[quartz trellis]

doesn't matter, i'm driving both

[tardy heath]

i want the brap brap brap brap ...... brap

[quartz trellis]

either way, back to topic

[winged pelican]

im more of a V12 horse kinda guy and my wife will not drive it period

[quartz trellis]

lol

[winged pelican]

back on 80he topic 🦝

I think I'm set?

kit and switch opener inspired by nyumi and then some tools

i think they mentioned it's still in the works and im sure they're open to hearing good reason

[coarse gulch]

Yeah I just wanted to leave my thoughts about it somewhere

They can't know people don't like it if nobody says so, right?

[winged pelican]

in the video he said "...and that [developing the lightbar for dark cases] will take a while"

so i think they are still ruminating and listening to thoughts 🙂

[quasi crater]

Why do i need a switch puller when i have my fingers 💅🏼 you dont know what im capable of

[quartz trellis]

well, have fun pulling 108 switches

[toxic zephyr]

why not just get the wooting kit

[winged pelican]

I thought about it but opted just for lubes

there's just more options buying the other tools separately. like this blue switch grabber thing also isn't included in wooting's kit but seems really useful actually.

[quartz trellis]

well, the Wooting kit includes a switch puller

[tardy heath]

thats usefull to lube your stems without getting ur fingers all oily

[buoyant solstice]

You can do that with the tweezers.

[toxic zephyr]

yeah the tweezers kinda do the same, not as convenient maybe

but fair enough

[quartz trellis]

thanks for letting me find more and more loose L60's and L45's in my lubing drawers

[buoyant solstice]

[quartz trellis]

not funny...

i found like 5 L45's and 10 L60's there

the L45's are filled to the brim... Not a single switch fits there anymore

besides, these containers reminded me of something oddly familiar till it hit me...

[buoyant solstice]

I keep my switches in Nutella jars

[quartz trellis]

these are the exact same plastic jars they used for chocolate covered hazelnuts

[tardy heath]

have the same problem have 5 jars of every switch xD the frankenswitch the ws dash the sticky rice and lekkers

[quartz trellis]

@buoyant solstice

[buoyant solstice]

[quartz trellis]

idk if that's intentional given the name of your switches, but god damn it

[buoyant solstice]

Alles Lekker

[fallen epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/bugcat-capoo-gif-4838946039463052199

[quartz trellis]

lol, what are these bugcat boxes?

[buoyant solstice]

Tiny bugcat figures.

[fallen epoch]

Just some cute little fellas

[quartz trellis]

little fun fact here: Bugcat started as an emoji on Line first

[fallen epoch]

The more you know

[buoyant solstice]

I had to ask Calder to buy them and import them to me, cause they would only ship to Taiwan addresses, and he lived there at the time.

[quartz trellis]

yeah, some things are hard to get by

[fallen epoch]

Calder clutched

[jolly tangle]

[quartz trellis]

at least you didn't purchase a Miku live action figure

their stupid special edition figures easily cost 2k+

[fallen epoch]

[karmic junco]

Alles is lekker

[wide gulch]

hi is it time

[meager quail]

Mb in 3months

[river wharf]

the white LED bar looked so much better in the latest vid

[runic forge]

why maybe?

[runic forge]

because of batches I guess huh?

[buoyant solstice]

The first batch isn't ready till August.

[winged remnant]

Late july it says here

[frozen tangle]

Mine will be in september, this hurts 😦

[feral basin]

I'll use my 60HE while waiting. 🥲

[dense ridge]

is it look like this bc of light reflection? the corner has different color

[gilded kindle]

Im no expert, but probably because there’s a screw post there

[dense ridge]

more looks like that the shiny part of the case is not polished and that effect comes from shiny stickers ? and in this corner, the stickers do not intersect ?

[toxic zephyr]

nah you're hallucinating

probably a DVT-specific issue or otherwise a function of the angle and lighting

wooting team wouldn't put out idiotic surface-unregularities like that

[buoyant solstice]

Definitely likely a dvt ting.

[median lantern]

80HE doesn't come with the side strap as the 60 ????

[pseudo parrot]

strap is just a 60he thing

[obtuse wagon]

Just glue the strap to the side of the case

[toxic zephyr]

glue a strip of flypaper instead and it'll also be functional in addition to being stylish!

[valid comet]

80HE travel case has a square loop for the strap I think

but no it comes seperate

[buoyant solstice]

Travel case* if anything. Not the actual keyboard cases.

[valid comet]

idk if its compatible or not

[analog vector]

Does anyone have a key that outputs like it was pressed twice?
For me its: ´´ (i pressed it once and it shows two)

[buoyant solstice]

Yes that's your OS

It's waiting for a second input to do umlauts and accented letters.

èàèùÌò

[analog vector]

hm o´´

O´O´´O´O´´´´o´´O´`

But thats new, it never did this before.. How do I remove it? 😛

Its only supose to be the one char.

Actually it also happens with: ¨¨ ¨^

Like holding Right shift and press the ^ key, gives me: ¨^

Its outputting both at the same time lol

[opaque panther]

Why does the date for the 80he keep getting delayed

went july->june->august

[umbral locust]

TIL june is after july

[icy cosmos]

It’s Saturday night.

[umbral locust]

Which as we all know is after sunday.

[icy cosmos]

How much have you been drinking 🤔

[umbral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-24788965

[icy cosmos]

You are ok then.. 👌

[quasi crater]

if you buy the switches on the wooting store, will they be v1 or v2?

[buoyant solstice]

V1 for the time being.

[quasi crater]

do you know when v2 will be available? I was just considering a 60he as well but i would want it with the new switches

[umbral locust]

Get a module and buy jades

[quasi crater]

was actually considering it haha

[humble cargo]

rip john dunsworth

[undone mica]

is that so good

?

[buoyant solstice]

Nothing wrong with that.

[undone mica]

so I can buy this

[buoyant solstice]

[undone mica]

you are not

[dense ledge]

can we trade ?

[feral basin]

Oh damn. 🙂

[opaque panther]

meant the other way

june_>july

[valid comet]

up arrow but thats probably the switch I was using that broke, or the solder points on my K70 board

[valid comet]

erm what

[zealous oak]

I had plenty of problems like that in my old g810 orion

Double typing and not typing

And what's worse is this happened short time passed the warranty

[verbal solar]

My fucking wooting80 arrived in September too long

[zealous oak]

That's a preorder and is not even mass produced yet so... makes sense

[verbal solar]

Are the staff all asleep

[zealous oak]

Probably

[verbal solar]

right now 2.00am In the Netherlands

baby sleap

[compact wasp]

You have to wait my friend.. like us.. 👀

[dense ledge]

The month of delivery

[clever lynx]

I command the 60he+ today cause I’m to impatient to receive my 80he

[daring axle]

im not even checking my delivery date. i want to be surprised and happy when it arrives

[hard vale]

3 months and counting

[zinc hedge]

There is no delivery date yet

[valid comet]

i mean like howwwww

[verbal solar]

now

[valid comet]

im good for now since I have my Q1 HE, but I cant wait to get myself my 80HE Black Zinc Alloy! So far HE is super fun and I dont think im going back to traditional mech.

unless its for the sake of building

[atomic brook]

omg august

[wind belfry]

what are the best switches for comp gaming?

[buoyant solstice]

The ones that feel the best to you.

aka.

https://tenor.com/view/preference-glarses-mx-brown-cherry-mx-brown-keyboard-gif-21044520

[icy cosmos]

Do you understand what Mansen is saying by preference?

[buoyant solstice]

Who is this... Masen?

[icy cosmos]

Sorry my autocorrect kicked in

[proven merlin]

What the différence between V1 and V2 leeker ?

[icy cosmos]

Most people who are thinking of upgrading don’t know how to find their preferences. That’s why most enthusiasts call it a “Journey”. One needs to take time to discover, trying things out and taking a leap of faith by buying something. By knowing what you don’t want will help you buying the things you want.

Also, just because you buy the exact same camera to they use in Hollywood doesn’t mean you can make Hollywood movies 😉.

[fallen epoch]

Its uhhh a duck i think?

[ocean gate]

where can i see the expected delivery time for my order?

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/

[ocean gate]

thanks, i think i didnt make an account when preodering the 80he

[buoyant solstice]

Then go make one.

[wind belfry]

kinda but i cant test it all.

[dim sierra]

And we cant test it for u

[tardy heath]

switches dont matter that much the activation point is set by your prefrence so just go with wich one you think feels better and sounds better

[wind belfry]

good call but by default u cant choice switched or u pay like 330 or?

[dim sierra]

[buoyant solstice]

The 80HE comes preinstalled with our Lekker60v2 switches.
The 80HE -module- has no switches or keycaps. And it comes in parts to be put together yourself.

[tardy heath]

if you want you can get the pcb only and choose the switches yourself switches are not that expensive

[wind belfry]

yes but then i dont have a case and its +100

[dim sierra]

Module comes with plastic case 🤨

[wind belfry]

ah good call

[dim sierra]

Dont think they allow u to checkout without choosing a case

[wind belfry]

no its without case

[buoyant solstice]

Indeed. There are no third party cases available, so zero reason to checkout without a case.

[wind belfry]

thx for the help

[tardy heath]

yw id recommend the jades if you want a shorter travel distance and decent sound if its to loud you can go for the raptors ( they make the rgb useles tho )

[buoyant solstice]

Or wait and see how the improved V2 switches treat you.

[tardy heath]

ws dashes or jades are everyones go to's tho ahh yess also the new lekker switches

[tardy heath]

when does it come out ? want to try them ( and whats gonna be the big dffrence from the current lekkers ? )

[buoyant solstice]

At the latest once the 80HE ships out in August.

[tardy heath]

will def try it out ive tried out all compatible switches so would be a shame not to try them

[icy cosmos]

Have I understood you correctly that the Jades are your preference atm?

[tardy heath]

Yes i use ws dash switches atm wich are just recollors of the jades

[icy cosmos]

I see, It seems that there’s a lot of love for the Jades..

[tardy heath]

Ive tried raptors (also frankenswitch) lekker’s , jades , sticky rice but jades are better and. Not even close

The shorter travel distance of 3,5 mm instead of 4 makes it feel better they feel smooth and they sound good ( especially on my soacebar)

[dim sierra]

Jade is the only one that isnt wobbly no?

Didnt raptor have some compatibility issue with wooting?

[verbal solar]

mansen

MansenThere is one important thing that you programmers need to do

[tardy heath]

Sometimes the magnets are to steong but if you stemswapp theyre pretty solid (lekker stems withs raptors)

[dense ledge]

it's a joke

[icy cosmos]

Thank you for the explanation. It clearly cater to your needs. 0,5mm travel can be a lot different for some.

[minor shard]

Keyboard noobie here. Looking to buy the 80he. There is no choice to other switches, they are not available, yet? Is it possible to use other switches to try out? (Since I want to explore)

[icy cosmos]

I found this article about making a better stabilizer for the spacebar https://ryan.norbauer.com/journal/the-stabilizer-problem/

[buoyant solstice]

Three types of switches we offer. Preinstalled boards always have L60v2, so you'll have to swap those yourself.

[minor shard]

Thanks, so the Gateron Magnetic switches also fit on the 80he

[cunning gust]

Aren't lekkers made by gateron anyway

[tardy heath]

Yes they are

[celest sigil]

how hard will be a case swap from abs to zink alloy compared to an easy 60 he case sswap?

[buoyant solstice]

It is more involved. More screws, and there's a daughterboard that needs to be moved over.

But we will be providing instructions videos - and Erik showed off a disassembly of plastic on the latest livestream.

[celest sigil]

Great ty

[pseudo parrot]

Doesn’t the daughter board come with each case? This is for the zinc alloy product page

[buoyant solstice]

What you just said and the screenshot of the keyboard are two different things.

[celest sigil]

thats a screenshot of the whole 80 he not only the case

[pseudo parrot]

This screenshot is from the zinc alloy case product page

Hm

[toxic zephyr]

wish I had 20k to blow on a luxury product's design stage alone with no real viable way to mass-manufacture it in the end

[celest sigil]

wait true

mb

[pseudo parrot]

says the same for the pcr abs case product page so im not sure tbh

[icy cosmos]

One day my friend 😅

[cunning gust]

is there an ETA on when we are gonna see the black zinc case?

[humble sluice]

https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik?si=YhBV3thmBzu2kLAW

[dark cargo]

Only 2 more months till I get my hands on it

[kind wasp]

Gonna do a smash test

[dim sierra]

3*

[spark lantern]

Thank you for sharing. Very interesting read. Wish they were in production. 😂

[arctic ice]

• shipping

[winter coral]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1234341228766826607

[verbal solar]

So they are gonna make the symbols on the keycaps?

[icy cosmos]

Here’s the presentation at Keycon 2024 the prototype is showcased at the very end of the video https://youtu.be/Hwwtcn1CmfE?si=NdnVFoI3p0nwvnh7

[tiny quail]

Any update on the zinc alloy typing sound? 🥺

[buoyant solstice]

Not outside of the quick sound tests in the last stream and video

[dim sierra]

znic sounds so much better for me

[spark lantern]

Oh wow thank you. I will watch.

[soft quarry]

I hope this is not gonna be in the final product

It looks weird

[valid comet]

what is that

[arctic ice]

hand signs to perform a jutsu

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-ninjutsu-fire-gif-14321266

[tight cypress]

Looks like date stamps
Most likely will be hidden somewhere inside the keyboard for final product

[valid comet]

from a design perspective, I think its interesting but not necessary, I think it would be nicer on the inside of the case as an easter egg

[soft quarry]

Zoom in some letters inside the circle

[azure oar]

I've never modded a keyboard before (except swapping my keychron k3 switches from red to banana, but that doesn't count). after a lot of research, I'm gonna buy TX V4 screw-in stabilizers ||https://divinikey.com/products/tx-ap-screw-in-stabilizers?variant=40546761343041|| and Krytox 205g0. I've heard it's common to grease the stab wires, does anyone have any recommendations for that?

[tight cypress]

It is, but any dielectric grease will do, you don't have to go with 205g0
Folks over at #🔧│keyboard_modding will be able to tell you more about it

[soft quarry]

Cal what channel is the rgb stuff

[tight cypress]

I don't think there's one specific for RGB?
As for problems with RGB feel free to post at #1019755933959733258
As for just talking, then #💬│general , #🔌│tech ...

[soft quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleep-good-morning-gif-13197410096239821277

[fallen epoch]

[valid comet]

oh yeah about RGB

how come most keyboards get the colors completely wrong whereas there are some keyboards that get the colors spot on?

[cunning gust]

turns out colors are complicated

[tight cypress]

I guess low-quality LEDs vs good-quality ones
Also addressable LEDs vs analog-driven ones

[jolly tangle]

colors are not complicated. everyone makes it complicated

[dim sierra]

rgb just annoying to me i turn them off

[cunning gust]

lol

as an electrical engineer that does a lot of work with light i am lafin

[valid comet]

the RGB in my Keychron Q1 HE is actually the best looking RGB I have ever seen

but I still usually keep it off

[pseudo parrot]

uh ironically enough the best rgb ive seen is in my phillips hue lights

[valid comet]

but yeah I thoight Id ask since someone reminded me

[tight cypress]

Q1 HE uses PWMable LEDs, just like Wooting does

[valid comet]

??

what does that mean

[jolly tangle]

I use this instead of rgb

[tight cypress]

Analog ones, but you can supply them with PWM signal and change duty cycle to change colors

[toxic zephyr]

it means electricity go ONOFFONOFFONOFFONOFF real quick to get you 50% brightness or whatever

[jolly tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-knight-rest-here-weary-rest-here-weary-one-gif-19874929

[valid comet]

so the ones used in like corsair logitech rog and razer are not analog PWM RGB?

[toxic zephyr]

or in other words, electricity go brrrr

[cunning gust]

this makes sense considering the high end stuff phillips works on

[jolly tangle]

[pseudo parrot]

yea im very happy with the hue lineup, i only have outdoor lighting tho. for indoors i just prefer sunlight

[valid comet]

no wondwr it looks so bad

thanks @tight cypress squeeze

[cunning gust]

I use cheap generic light bulbs and windows

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pseudo parrot]

nice

[tight cypress]

I think that also because some of them use LEDs which are in switches and not on PCB, not sure about that though

[valid comet]

so thats another reason why switches may sometimes need soldering

[tight cypress]

Number one reason is it's almost always cheaper to solder switches than to accommodate PCB and plate for hot-swappable ones

[valid comet]

at least for HE switches there is nothing to solder

[covert wind]

Do we have any real world footage of the ghost/frost PCR plastic case for the 80he?

[copper copper]

Gba circa 2003

[tight cypress]

Um... Steelseries with their Apex Pro would beg to differ

[cunning gust]

🧟

[valid comet]

and corsair MGX

genuinely sad lol

[icy cosmos]

You’re correct regarding that colours are not complicated. It’s very expensive to get correct colours. A reference grading monitor still costs around 30k euro. Lights that are used for movies are still in the hundreds. It’s a just a matter of cost, not difficult.

[jolly tangle]

you could stop writing after the first 3 words

Thanks

[vapid storm]

what do you

[tiny tartan]

https://youtu.be/gwHYBdbZ4eo?si=zy2whd6fvQXU-e4q&t=61

[quasi crater]

Is it still possible to change the vase i wanted for the 80he?

case* 😂

[tiny tartan]

yes but if you were batch 1 you'll probably be in batch 2

[buoyant solstice]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail]

[quasi crater]

Ok i will try :)

[jolly tangle]

man frost looks too good

[quasi crater]

kinda liked ghost more than black after seeing them a bit more

[toxic zephyr]

frost looks awesome and the light lightbar too, I dunno why they want to make one good light bar and one that's just worse

[soft quarry]

i want go with blackout keycaps

it looks clean like that

[toxic zephyr]

but I'm happy I got the frost that comes with the light light bar

[quasi crater]

will the ghost case have the black or the white led bar?

[tight cypress]

I think black one

The biggest think though is which one module will have

[quasi crater]

true xD

[umbral locust]

The keyboard isn't even out yet, why are you wanting to swap out the stabs?

[soft quarry]

let the man start his hobby lol

[umbral locust]

He should find a better starting point

[quasi crater]

I would really want to know if the ghost and frost have the same LED bar, i liked the light LED bar much more 😅

[soft quarry]

lol kinda true

[umbral locust]

think the ghost will have the dark LED bar

[quasi crater]

But the frost one will have the light one? I like both of the transparent cases so i just want the one with the white LED bar tbh

[umbral locust]

idk if they put a list out of what case gets what LED bar, but I think ti's safe to say black and ghost pcr will get dark and frost wil lget light, black and white zinc is obvious, no clue what they will go with for raw zinc.

[quasi crater]

yes i agree with u on that 😄 makes sense

[wispy trellis]

don't they come with both?

[umbral locust]

That be cool. But I dont think thats the case.

Id be happy to be wrong though.

[wispy trellis]

its just a difusor and if you caseswap you need it

i think i heard something like that- or it comes with a extra case

[quasi crater]

maybe a should wait a little bit more before i ask for a case swap, they will probably say something soon?

[umbral locust]

Only thing I know about it is that the bar comes with the cases and not the module.

So it makes sense they would be case matched.

[wispy trellis]

im still very sad they didn't reveal that it's a touchsensitive led bar.. with that news i would not hafe missed the knob 😦 adjusting sound with sliding over the led bar would hafe been cool 😦 - but my hopes wherend high in the first place.. missed opportunity

[umbral locust]

we are getting a knob at some point.

[quasi crater]

We will get some more info about the LED bar in one of the updates i think they said

[wispy trellis]

Yes, but so far, I don't see more use than just gimmicks. I mean, the keyboard will be fantastic nonetheless, but I don't know; I would have hoped for a bit more usefulness. A fingerprint sensor, touch with sound profile adjustment, and mute—the space on the PCB was there, haha. But I guess I'm getting too greedy, and not everyone would pay extra for something like that. Heck, maybe an interface for 3rd party cases to add something like that would have been crazy. I mean, the 60 has the carrying band which makes it unique; the HE80 is somehow lacking that uniqueness.

[umbral locust]

The LED bar is their answer to the uniqueness thing

I do think its stupid though but it is what it is lol

[humble cargo]

I like it

rgb haters go suck an egg

[wispy trellis]

this was one of my first keyboards the led bar was up the numblock HAHA:P

[humble cargo]

if you want an idea of my age, our first home computer had the keyboard built into the actual computer

[wispy trellis]

well i don't hate rgb i want MORE like i said touchpad with fingerprint + lvolume adjust or interface for 3rd party cases and ideas

c64 and amiga 500 i didn't count those 2 eventhough i owned them

[humble cargo]

atari here, had a few friends with amigas

[azure oar]

low expectations

nah i just want to fuck around and try my hand at modding

[umbral locust]

But swapping screw in stabs out with screw in stabs is not really a mod

[azure oar]

didn't say that was the only thing i was doing

just posted smth here to ask for suggestions on grease

[umbral locust]

Learning how to lube and tune stabs is more important imo

[azure oar]

i fail to see the point you're trying to make, i never said i wasn't going to do that? just mentioned in passing that i was buying third party stabs i've heard good things about

[umbral locust]

I'm not really making a point, I just asked you a question lol

Your reply kinda didn't make sense which is why I said swapping stabs out with identical stabs is not really a mod. Just trying to save you some money you are free to do whatever you like.

[azure oar]

are they actually identical?

[umbral locust]

It's not the same factory line, but screw in stabs are all the same in function and purpose, once you lube and tune there is no difference. It's why a lot of us recommend sticking with stock stabs in the 60he and will likely keep the same recommendation for the 80he.

I encourage tinkering, part of learning though. It's just not necessarily the mod a lot of people think it is when they swap stabs out.

[azure oar]

i mean i'll definitely fuck around with the stock ones to learn but from all the videos i've seen online the sound can be a LOT different between different brands, even post-lube and tuning by the same person

[umbral locust]

recordings can exaggerate and highlight the most minute differences. A lot of it doesn't sound the same in person. Even something as benine as how tight or loose you do the screws on the stabs can affect sound. So even the same set of stabs will sound different if you mount them and unmount them between recordings.

Likewise, the same stab set will sound different from key to key just because of placement and acoustics.

[azure oar]

thanks for the heads up

[umbral locust]

If you got the time and money, def go for it though. Part of the fun is just trying for yourself.

[azure oar]

idk it's $18 and i already dropped $300 on this damn thing lol

and that's without keycaps

[umbral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-juice-refresh-it-is-what-its-is-playa-sip-gif-17436001

[frozen tangle]

do you guys think that the 80HE's case is finalized? I kinda like the 60HE bottom part of the case with the wooting logo on it

[umbral locust]

The design is finalized.

[frozen tangle]

and the way it curves down nicely

[frozen tangle]

gotcha

[azure oar]

should be finalized, don't they already have the molds done?

[umbral locust]

I think it's just the finishes they haven't fully finalized yet but otherwise what you see is what youget.

[azure oar]

i got the black zinc case, ngl kinda considering asking to switch to the raw zinc, looks p good

[frozen tangle]

I just like the bottom part of the 60he and the way it curves, i wish it was similar too with the 80HE

[umbral locust]

I got the white zinc and ghost pcr and so far I am happy I did.

We'll see once the stuff is finalized, i was contemplating raw.

[azure oar]

yeah i don't know what i want to do for keycaps but i want to order something custom from goblintechkeys

[valid comet]

i was always thinking Black Zinc

Either way Im still happy with it

[acoustic jasper]

I’m gonna stick with my pcr and get a zinc later on

More fun that way

[jade widget]

More expensive that way, Calder said they were looking at potentially raising the price of the zinc cases

[cursive lily]

Maybe third party cases or smth

[idle depot]

Wait really?

[jade widget]

it was only gonna be like a $10 raise in price and it was a maybe

[daring axle]

so question, especially with the zinc case. with the silicone pad and the "tape mod" already done with the 80 he, how mich is there gunna be in the way of mods to do fir this board aside from switches and keycaps?

[jade widget]

probably not too much a lot of the stuff people were doing with the 60he has already been done with the 80he

[daring axle]

thats kinda what i was thinking. just curious if there was going to be any reason to do mods on it when we get them.

[jade widget]

I don't plan on any, potentially change switches if new ones come out and I might cerakote my case

[midnight iron]

only real thing left to do really is hand lube and only if you're very particular about lube spread consistency

i suppose you could also change the stabs if you have a particular brand you prefer, but that's more a sidegrade than upgrade

[hushed yew]

see u in late august~ uwu

[honest badger]

What USB-port is required for 8KHz? 3.2 gen1?

[upbeat berry]

usb 2.0

[honest badger]

Really? Well i'll take the word of official staff

[jolly tangle]

official staff in a official discord

crazy world

[upbeat berry]

1khz polling is USB 1.1 btw

[honest badger]

"In order to get actual 8000 Hz, xHCI is required, and xHCI is only available on USB 3.x controllers" what i found

[lime falcon]

2.0 is enough

[upbeat berry]

nope 2.0 is enough

[tight cypress]

Reddit is at it again
EHCI supports 8k polling for High Speed 2.0, but 1k polling for Full Speed and Low Speed 2.0 (essentially 1.1)
xHCI must emulate EHCI behavior, since xHCI is interrupt driven, not polling driven, so theoretically you can push it way further than 8k
But standard is 8k for 2.0 High Speed/3.0+

[jolly tangle]

youre checking reddit for that?

oh dear

[upbeat berry]

one day someone will write a proper xHCI compatible keyboard firmware that uses interrupts but we arent doing that with the 80he (also needs a new controller to talk interrupts)

[tight cypress]

Ok, so it turns out TechPowerUp recommends in their mice reviews USB 3.0+ for consistent performance, whatever it means
That would be true if mice would send data at a constant 8k polling, since then it may overload USB 2.0 given interrupt moderation and all that fluff
But while polling rate is constant, rate at which mice is sending data is not - more often than not mice send data at around 2k~4k rate most of the time

Now, with keyboards the situation is even more lenient - while mice send data pretty much constantly, keyboards only do so while you press keys
As such it sends way less data than mice, and 2.0 can easily handle that too

In the end - 2.0 is enough for 8k, may not be if plugged in through USB hub though

[silk hedge]

Apx stabs tho im not sure those would work

[upbeat berry]

im pretty sure no human can generate enough key press data to saturate a usb2 port (not to mention most people have usb3 anyway)

actual usb2 is dying as a port and most are some flavor of usb3

[tight cypress]

Of course, it's hard enough to saturate 2.0 even with mice at ridiculously high DPIs and constantly flailing it like crazy, let alone with keyboards
TPU seem to not understand that mice send do not sent the data every 0.125 ms or so, but only when input is received

[vestal bay]

dks spam

[upbeat berry]

even then

[vestal bay]

[jade widget]

yall putting a lot of words in pzogels mouth "On EHCI, interrupt moderation can be expected to be 125 μs on Windows 8 or higher, which is sufficient but not optimal. Third, it is therefore recommended to plug the Hati-S Plus 4K into a USB 3.x port in XHCI mode. Any USB 3.x ports forced into EHCI will behave similarly to a native USB 2.0 port. As a general rule of thumb, one should be using a USB port native to the CPU and not connect any other high-polling devices to a port of the same hub."

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/who-gif-4519872

[jade widget]

the guy who writes the techpowerup reviews. for mice at least

[coarse gulch]

I thought the last part was pretty common knowledge, is it not?

[upbeat berry]

dont assume on the internet

[coarse gulch]

Fair

[upbeat berry]

people also dont read

youd be surprised how many questions we get about things people could have already read before writing the question

[tight cypress]

Essentially - 1 high-polling device per one USB controller, as to not saturate it

[coarse gulch]

Not all your USB ports go to the same place, some go to a motherboard controller, others go directly to the CPU (in-die) USB controller (some motherboards have multiple USB controllers bridged)
You want your input devices on the ports closest to the CPU as possible, which often is the CPU USB controller itself, you should be able to know which are which by checking your Mobo manual

Other than that, you don't want **multiple **very high polling rate in the same controller, so it might be a good idea to split them between CPU USB controller and Mobo bridge

If you're not sure about how your USB architecture is structured, just check your mobo manual

Yeah it's not a problem of not working, it's more of a latency problem.

Unless we're talking about high polling rate devices, I'd bet 2 8khz polling devices will saturate a low-end usb controller and that WILL cause problems

[midnight iron]

should be fine. The new holes are bigger to accommodate more stabs in the 80he

[jade widget]

there's also some stuff about usb 3.0 causing issues with wireless dongles, although that's only when directly connected if you have an extender like most mice come with it's a non issue

for the nerds out there https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/327216.pdf

[coarse gulch]

Thanks for the source it looks interesting!

[shell monolith]

Doesn’t seem to effect my g pro superlight guess I’m lucky

[buoyant solstice]

ALL the memes.

[pseudo parrot]

I expect at least one duck

[violet garnet]

[night widget]

Is my wooting 80 meant to take 5 months?🥲👍

[tight cypress]

September... That seems about right, yes

[shell saddle]

💀

[night widget]

I'm gonna bloody graduate by then

💀

[toxic zephyr]

and as we all know graduation means life is over so it's too late to enjoy the keyboard

[tight cypress]

Work's great! I do basically the same as uni, but I don't have to do projects nor thesis on weekends, I get back home 4pm flat and they even pay me

[bronze ravine]

work is great if you find good work that you don't hate

[jade widget]

depends how much work you were doing at uni, I was mainly inebriated

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-24788965

[tight cypress]

I had amazing group
We were meeting each Saturday 10am and finishing all projects together
And I helped some of my friends with their theses too

So lots of work, but I really liked it

[jade widget]

sounds wholesome, I didn't really talk to anybody in my classes only did group work when it was mandatory

did not stay around for post-grad

[wispy trellis]

i startet at work - giving ppl directly answeres from chatgpt and google instead of getting annyoied

[cunning gust]

A fact of life, people seem allergic to reading

[icy cosmos]

Linking to video doesn’t help either 🤣

[grave umbra]

Precisely

[proud parcel]

[twin merlin]

My wooting was my graduation gift to myself

Or, it will be when it comes

[arctic ice]

What if you dont graduate

[twin merlin]

I can get a zero on every ungraded assignment and still graduate

[lapis galleon]

what if you get expelled

[twin merlin]

that would suck

[winged pelican]

then he can graduate next year and get another wooting kb as a graduation gift 🧠

[grave umbra]

Smart!

[fickle crane]

we're back

oops 80he channel

[buoyant solstice]

[sand glen]

will you be able to buy an aftermarket keyboard case for the 80he like the 60he?

[fickle crane]

going to cut up a 100g or something for ultimate spring

[buoyant solstice]

If anyone makes one. Sure?

[sand glen]

oh so no company has made a case that fits the 80he yet?

[buoyant solstice]

It is a unique design.

There are generally no standards you can just use above 60%

[sand glen]

ahh i see okay thank you for telling me :D

[lilac plaza]

kinda hard when it isn't out yet

[jolly tangle]

like wooting said on stream. if they want to make a case for the 80. contact them

and seeing how popular the tofu for the 60he is...

... who knows

[lilac plaza]

I already forgot, this is doubleshot PBT keycaps with transparent font? But the LEDs are at the bottome of the switches?

[sand glen]

yeah thats makes sense

[wispy trellis]

well 75% and 75% exploded, is very common, but given its unique design, there won’t be 'other cases' like with the 60. Honestly, it was a smart move by Wooting to market their cases distinctively. I highly doubt there will be many, if any, alternatives available on the market."

[verbal solar]

fuck

[wispy trellis]

on the other hand im not sure if it's a bit like killing the golden goas since building the barebone in high quality cases made a lot for wooting too - so yeah that can go in a bad direction later on

[balmy orchid]

how long would a wooting 60he delivery in france would take ?

[tight cypress]

2~3 days from shipping from the warehouse? Website and checkout will tell you the most accurate estimates

[balmy orchid]

it say 10 to 20 may estimated delivery but idk

[valid comet]

either way i woukdnt be surprised if people started making 80HE cases

[compact wasp]

Loads of days off are coming up, most people are free during the feast of the ascension? (Hemelvaart) so this week is almost over.. (starting Thursday)

[wispy trellis]

me too - some ppl simply don't understand that 60 cases didn't just pop up because wooting existed but because the formfactor existed..

[jade widget]

yeah but just because other form factors exist doesn't mean they are compatilbe with each other, the thing with 60% is so many people made universal parts which fit with each other. the 80he has nothing like this it's a unique layout and will require someone to go out there way to design a custom case, where as many 60% cases already on the market fit the 60he out of the box

[valid comet]

i was aware that 60% is a universal layout (for the most part)

[naive flare]

urm what does this mean

[jade widget]

the board is technically 77.5% not 80%

[naive flare]

lmao

so
like
what does that actually mean

[jade widget]

missing these 3 keys to make it a proper 80%

[naive flare]

well yeah

im just kinda confused as how its a "reward"

or whatever idek

im just confused on what it is is all since I also have it as a discord role

[jade widget]

it's just a joke, you get the role if you buy the 80he

[naive flare]

i see
thanks

[valid comet]

more specifically as a founder

[naive flare]

ye

[valid comet]

so

PWM LEDs vs digital LEDs

i have no idea what the difference is

when just looking at them

like in terms of RGB like wooting for example

[pseudo parrot]

You can view pwm like a sine wave cycle rapidly going from 1 to 0. The brightness afaik can be adjusted by changing duty cycle
Digital leds are addressable with their own chip to control things, individually

[valid comet]

is there an advantage, what are pros and cons

[pseudo parrot]

I found a nice article that goes into detail. You seem interested in this might be worth reading

https://resources.pcb.cadence.com/blog/2020-pwm-leds-pulse-width-modulation-for-dimming-systems-and-other-applications

[sudden grove]

If I preorder the keyboard today . When will I receive the keyboard ?

[lime falcon]

You can see that on checkout

[nocturne smelt]

Oh

[hexed silo]

Hm... I feel like the curves on the side of keyboard look kinda cheap for some reason...

Like, they remind me of those cheap plasic tool that I once owned in primary school

[toxic zephyr]

so just something specific to your experiences in your youth

[hexed silo]

Yeah maybe. I personally perfer the more simplistic design on the 60he+

*the alumaze60 looks sexy

[vapid storm]

no u

[sleek pelican]

no me

[red heart]

I personally like the design of the 80he

[spring scaffold]

hi I forgot but when are the keyboards supposed to be shipped? was it june or july?

[quasi crater]

July 😿

[spring scaffold]

dang.. was hoping it was june. Oh well🥲

[prisma fjord]

August

[lucid karma]

I’d think digital LEDs are almost certainly PWM as well

Unless it’s a led that can only be on on one brightness or off

[tight cypress]

Well, PWM vs addressable LEDs

[lucid karma]

I mean at the end of the day the addressable leds are going to use PWM anyways it’s just the stage at which digital signal is converted into PWM

[bronze ravine]

August gang

[rose bolt]

Hey Kurulen, do you mean you have low profile on a wooting keyboard? I'm currently using the Logitech g915 TKL, which is not perfect, but is for me, as the first mechanical keyboard I own, a decent one. And since I spent my entire professional life typing in low profile because of work, I would love to experiment with low profile keycaps, although I know the switches won't be low profile (yet). Can you show a picture of your keyboard and/or a sound test please?

[digital sable]

123

[dim sierra]

456

[wind tiger]

789

[sweet mango]

hey guys, does anyone know the name of the first preorder batch?

[buoyant solstice]

Champion and Kampioen

[outer crown]

Hayy

[orchid wasp]

out of curiousity how many orders total have been placed on the 80he since the founder campaign ended?

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/ignore-funny-basketball-bye-no-comment-gif-14367934

[orchid wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-snow-interview-microphone-mic-gif-25816123

based response tbh i have to respect it

[red heart]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

Use this next time

[orchid wasp]

[buoyant solstice]

Jokes aside we don't comment on such things.

Consider the campaigns a rare insight

[orchid wasp]

gotcha, im not stressed about it either way, was just idle curiousity

[rustic idol]

i think at least 2 keyboards were bought after the campaign

maybe 3 even

[orchid wasp]

at least 1 keyboard

[lime falcon]

atleast 9431 have been sold since campaign according to sources (I dont have sources)

[red heart]

You can probably roughly estimate when the second batch fills up

[buoyant solstice]

That one is easy - Calder let slip that the second batch is roughly twice the size of the first one. And you roughly know the size of the first one, since it filled up on the final day of the campaign.

https://tenor.com/view/rebellion-sprinkle-gif-26428985

[red heart]

Idk how the speed of sales compares between preorder and campaign but i dont think itll be as fast

So i wonder if batch 2 will even manage to fill up during the pre order window

Tho tbh, it might sell out really fast once the first few units arrive in people‘s hands or once it‘s closer to release

[lime falcon]

after reviews there will be a bunch of orders

im sure a lot of people are waiting for reviews to order

[zealous oak]

First batch gang

[lime falcon]

^

[fallen epoch]

[hoary prairie]

Balls

[jade widget]

Well I got my keycaps and custom cable rip bank 💸

[unkempt wadi]

i wonder, is our name going to be on the box? :0

[icy cosmos]

This is Apple genius simplified

Delivery

Hopefully Wooting next project

[cunning gust]

apple knows everyone and their mother will buy whatever junk they put out so they don't need to mitigate investment risk with preorders

very genius

[icy cosmos]

1 week of preorder 🤔

[pseudo parrot]

Wooting can’t compete with a faang company when it comes to logistics

[cunning gust]

it's not even a faang thing they can just stockple and release things whenever

[pseudo parrot]

Buy up the entire tsmc node for the year ™️

[cunning gust]

pretty much

[jade widget]

they got it like that

[sinful anvil]

I assume it's double because pre-ordering first batch is a big no-no in the peripheral world?

Surely wooting's QA team will make sure first batch is as good as second batch

[cunning gust]

thanks for beta testing my keyboard nerds

I didn't see the launch campaign so i didn't get to order until it was over ;-;

[buoyant solstice]

Not sure I understand. Companies generally don't share sales numbers, regardless of things.
We're just a little extra nice by showing them during the campaigns

[unkempt wadi]

question, i really suck with returns since i never sent anything in my life. i live in Hong Kong, lets say my 80 he is the first batch and its glitchy or has some problems, what do i do? do i send it back? or will u send us another one? i doubt send another one since i bought the zink version xD

[sinful anvil]

First batches in electronics are notorious for being faulty. don't know if that's the case with wooting or not but in most peripheral companies it is.

[meager quail]

first you wait till it arrive xd

[sinful anvil]

That's why sales doubled after the campaign even though you get less benefits.

[buoyant solstice]

Ahh. No we're pretty thorough, and have only had minor issues with previous product launches.

And if there ARE any issues, we will of course help support and replace them as needed.

[cunning gust]

wtf my 80he is only 77.5he

[tight cypress]

Both first and second batch will have the same hardware
Just like with other keyboards here

[meager quail]

get scummed buddy

[cunning gust]

[marble kernel]

65he when

[toxic zephyr]

tomorrow!

[tight cypress]

never!

[marble kernel]

I dont think I can fit a 80he on my desk lol

[tight cypress]

It's 2cm wider than 65% would be

[marble kernel]

fair

[pseudo parrot]

also barely any bigger than 60he, if you can fit 60 with some spare space left 80 should not be any issue

[toxic zephyr]

as it says, that's a picture of calder, the CEO of wooting

he's a keyboard case

[buoyant solstice]

[jade widget]

king of leaks

[cunning gust]

no wonder wooting doesn't make mice they are lead by a case

[icy cosmos]

I was told that Wooting had a real TKL long time ago..

Wooting ☝️

[icy cosmos]

Is this yours?

[jade widget]

no just a picutre that was posted on here a while ago

[red heart]

This is mine

[marsh canopy]

LTT mousepad available on …

[icy cosmos]

Is it still rock solid after all these years?

[red heart]

Yup

Other than some of the more used switches becoming scratchy overtime

[cunning gust]

it's gmk

it got glossy after a month and a half

[shell monolith]

Theres 1color missing and thats green hehe

[red heart]

?

I am not talking about the caps

[valid comet]

wooting one?

optical

both abs and pbt get super glossy no matter how good the quality is

pbt under very normal use will remain better over time

but if you use them a lot

they will shine regardless in a very short leriod no matter how clean your space is or your hands.

[icy cosmos]

You don’t wear keyboard gloves when typing?

[icy cosmos]

But you can swap out out the switches right?

[red heart]

the switches are not in production anymore

[icy cosmos]

Wooting should have a warehouse full of them 😉

[red heart]

they do not

[icy cosmos]

Oh.. that’s sad to hear

[red heart]

i'm pretty sure last i heard, wooting had less keycaps that you'd need for a full keyboard

[quartz trellis]

well, that's certainly true

their last pile of Woot Ones is kept in secret

[buoyant solstice]

aka. The Barn

[quartz trellis]

maybe i should disassemble one of these switches and request a manufacturer to produce them

nut cracker time

[quartz trellis]

i thought it's in @upbeat berry's basement, which is filled to the brim with wooting prototypes anyway

tony's going to be rich as fuck when he decides to leave wooting and sell all the prototypes and stuff

[red heart]

wooting one he is locked in there

[lapis galleon]

nah the wootpad

[orchid wasp]

I shall gratefully accept your nuggets of knowledge

[dry pawn]

Are the specs of this going to go to the other keyboards? Like 8hz and the switches etc??

[red heart]

the switches are coming to the other HE boards + you can put them on yourself also

rappy snappy is coming to all

but 8khz is not coming since it needs special hardware

so only with new releases from now probably

[dim sierra]

mcu on 60he too small for 8hz if i rmb correctly

[tight cypress]

No place on the PCB for bigger MCU
Old one is LQFP48, new one is LQFP64

[oak sigil]

rappy snappy yay

[dry pawn]

Hmmm you think they would be able to fit that in the full size 🤔

[oblique basin]

I miss the black ABS with sparkle option. Still salty people didn't vote for it. Why we can't have nice things.

[valid comet]

are we gonna raid the warehouse for a Wooting One heist?

[sand glen]

I was wondering can i add the zinc alloy case to my order that i already made or do i have to order it seperately since i already ordered the 80he

[jade widget]

They're adding a feature to update/change your cart at some point, will be before they start mass production

[sand glen]

But what if its already ordered? Because i pre ordered the 80he but i want the zinc alloy case with it too

[jade widget]

This is for people who have already ordered to update their purchase

[sand glen]

Oh nice thats good to hear

[primal finch]

im waiting for mine to arive it says its coming today

[toxic zephyr]

just saying 👀

[dry pawn]

folks do i pull the trigger on the 60HE or the full size or wait for the 80HE

[lime falcon]

depends on what layout you like

[tropic tide]

Depends on your needs. I have a full sized keyboard but I don’t use numpad at all. I do however use the media keys on a regular basis so I went with the 80HE. If you use a lot of numpad yourself and just need a good keyboard to game with, then get 60HE for gaming and some cheaper, non gaming keyboard for utility.

[lime falcon]

if youre not in a rush, get 80he

if you want keyboard now get 60he

[dry pawn]

ive always used full layout and havent used the 60 or 80 but scared that they arent going to have parts for the full sized and just be stock with stock items

[dry pawn]

yeah that sounds like a good plan ill prob just buy the 60 then

[hearty sky]

🤔

[lime falcon]

<@&490097707487330305>

[inner frost]

im in a rush to want it before summer break but I know 100% its not going to come before summer break 😭

[buoyant solstice]

No

[compact wasp]

It ended the 15th of April, bit more than 10 days late

[gleaming silo]

are there any 3rd party cases that work with the 80he. eg. tofu 60 and 60 redux work on the 60he. but do cases like idk, the freebirdtkl work on the wooting 80he

[jade widget]

Nope, would have to be custom made to fit the 80he

[compact wasp]

Not yet, maybe in the future.. 80He isn’t even out so hard to make a case for it

[gleaming silo]

oh

so only the plastic and alloy cases work so far

[compact wasp]

Wooting will share the case specs/documents in the future afaik

But for now.. you can choose their cases and enjoy the beautiful 80He

[ebon sluice]

what's wrong with the stock case, it's pretty much a Lamborghini

[gleaming silo]

nothing wrong, just want to explore my options

[midnight iron]

Basically you can’t fit it with any 3rd party cases even if they match layout and dimensions unless you build a custom plate (which isn’t doable yet without dimensions etc)

[ebon sluice]

ahh that's fair, nicce

[compact wasp]

You got 6, 3 pcr, 3 zinc.. makes choosing easier tho!

[gleaming silo]

just to be sure, the module comes with a poly case right

not case plate

[dim sierra]

🤨

[gleaming silo]

i kinda want a deeper sound so i want a polycarb plate instead of steel or brass

[dim sierra]

u choose the case u want

[jade widget]

It's a PC plate yes

[gleaming silo]

opinions on what i guess ill go for, for now, might change cases later.
80he module, ansi layout, ws dash (gateron jade recolor, only difference is its cheaper and the stem is purple instead of white) dcx wob with the dcx red accents that will go on the esc, arrow keys and enter key. and then the black alloy case

[dim sierra]

if u want deeper sound go for lekker v2 i guess

jades are more pop and clack

[gleaming silo]

there are v2s

[jade widget]

V2s are available with the 80he stock

[gleaming silo]

o, oh wow i didnt notice, whats the difference

[jade widget]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

[midnight iron]

Tighter fit to remove stem wobble

[sharp wharf]

Here's the sound test if you're interested
https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik?t=301

[gleaming silo]

wow

wait, with the stabs, do they come with screw ins or do i have to get my own

not using plate mount

[dim sierra]

comes with wootings own screw in stabs

[gleaming silo]

o

is it prelubed

[dim sierra]

u can swap it if u want but not much point

yeah pre greased if u may say

[gleaming silo]

alright

does anyone know if a wooting65he will ever come? if it does im throwing away any ideas of getting the 80he

[jade widget]

Maybe but definitely not any time soon

[icy cosmos]

You can count the years between each model release. It’s going to be a long wait.

[foggy salmon]

Why would you need a 65? 60he basically got arrow keys with mod tap

[toxic zephyr]

uhhh because preference is a thing

[daring axle]

what we really need is a 140% just take an 80HE and then add a 60HE to it. just for fun. could be a fun April fools thing for next year

[cursive lily]

Wooting fourHE 2 full size wooting twoHE combined together for the ultimate work flow

[errant torrent]

eightHE for the whole family

[daring axle]

yes, but it has to be a long keyboard not a tall one.

[sand glen]

is this how the plastic case will look like or the zinc alloy case?

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-pcr-abs-case?Color=Black
https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-zinc-alloy-case?Color=Black

These are all renders - For the real thing, check out more recent videos and livestreams.

[sand glen]

ohh thank you so much for the links!

[sand glen]

is it also possible that youre gonna add the "take control" stripe thing with the 80he or is it a 60he exclusive?

[lapis galleon]

the strap is 60he exclusive, however if you take a close look at the carrying case for the 80he you will see a little slot for a third party strap (or if you have an extra 60he strap)

[buoyant solstice]

No guarantee it'll fit.

[sand glen]

oh yeah i didnt even notice that

[lapis galleon]

theres always scissors

[sand glen]

it would be really cool if wooting would make it so you can buy it seperately or an 80he exclusive, like if you bought the 80he you get secret access to get the strap if you want it

[buoyant solstice]

No plans.

[lapis galleon]

I think releasing more straps that can be bought separately would be a better idea

I dont think the current alumaze strap matches the cases so it could be cool if you could get one that does

[sand glen]

yeah it would be a cool feature because some people dont like the strap but i personally find it a cool accessory

i was considering buying the 60he purely for the strap but went with the 80he at the end

[desert quest]

is it just me or does the image of the founders L45’s not show up in the order overview?

[quasi crater]

it shows up at the bottom bro

nvm i cant read 😂 It doesnt show for me either

[bronze ravine]

it’s probably lumped together with the Wooting 80He order, also a reason why I ordered all the components separately so I get 2 sets of L45s

[outer crown]

Hayy a little less than a month ago I pre ordered a wooting 80he but now I recently found out they are very new, I just thought they weren't in stock, does that mean mine is coming in the first batch of keyboards?

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

You can see everything on our hub. 🙂

[outer crown]

Oh? Where do I find it?

[jolly tangle]

under orders

there you will see a batch name

[outer crown]

Hm can't find it but I really don't mind I just thought it was interesting

[jolly tangle]

you don't see something like this ?

btw white zinc alloy case is the coolest case

[outer crown]

I do

[jolly tangle]

Is that not the answer on your question?

[fast steeple]

Is rappy snappy going to be on 60he as well

[jolly tangle]

yes

[dusky tiger]

I'd get white zinc if the rest of my setup wasn't red-black already

[fast steeple]

What is the difference between 80he and 60he besides size

[dusky tiger]

8k polling but it's more of a bragging-rights feature

[jolly tangle]

This question has been asked before , please try to use the search function /s

[fast steeple]

/s difference

[dusky tiger]

I'm so excited for the 80he to arrive

[jolly tangle]

[dusky tiger]

just a couple more months

early august zzz

[jolly tangle]

after that we can be hardstuck silver in 8k polling

[dusky tiger]

Nahhh we getting to radiant

[jolly tangle]

What a gamer!

[sage elk]

When they say mid August do they mean like august 10th~18th

[bronze ravine]

[digital portal]

$105.47 USD to get all lekker spring options.

[gleaming marsh]

hey does anyone know which microcontroller the 80he is using to get the 8khz polling?

[tight cypress]

GD32F425, you can see it in one of Wooting videos on Youtube

[gleaming marsh]

oh cool, which vid?

[tight cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqSAnsX7QgA

[pseudo parrot]

zoom: enhance

oh forgot to rotate

[dim sierra]

[delicate ether]

So theoretically

if we put that in a 60he...

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[valid comet]

and then USB 3 keyboards come and then 24k boards come out and then the buyers remorse hits /jk

80HE is a banger, I dont see a need for more than 8k

[valid comet]

finalized MCU for 80HE? This thing can scan a board 8,000 times in a second 😳

[buoyant solstice]

It also slices and dices, and brews a mean coffee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7QIcxoJU4g

[pseudo parrot]

slap chop now with rapid trigger ™️

[cunning gust]

8k itself is pointlessly high

[fallen epoch]

Truly the 80he is peak culinary design

[valid comet]

it almost feels analog

assuming the click to port latency is actually 0.125ms tho

[cunning gust]

there is no human alive that can feel the difference between 4k and 8k

[sleek pelican]

one has a 4 one has an 8 at the start

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/he-aintlyin-preach-truth-facts-tho-gif-15825744

[burnt echo]

All keyboards come with with a cable, right?

[tight cypress]

Yup, all keyboards do

2HE and 60HE with 1.8m one and UwU with 1.5m one

[buoyant solstice]

And a 2m one for the 80HE (which is what they asked about I imagine given the channel)

[burnt echo]

Thank you!

[verbal solar]

i do

[cunning gust]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

[buoyant solstice]

👌

[fickle flint]

8khz supremacy

[coarse gulch]

Friendly reminder that we're not in the PS/2 era and USB keyboards are based on polling.

Now I'm in bed and unwilling to figure out the maximum delay that can happen with a polling rate of 4KHz vs the max on 8Khz, but THAT is how you would judge if it's percetible or not

Not just by the time frame extrapolated by the frequency

[lime aspen]

It's not

It's literally just not

[acoustic jasper]

No no I feel it, I run faster in valorant!

[coarse gulch]

Lmao

[coarse gulch]

Yeah I don't doubt it, was just making a somewhat useless point

[cunning gust]

This is real measured latency between a unit

Averaged over thousands of inputs

Well maybe not this one but the results are always similar

[tiny tartan]

but this is TRUE 8k

it will be even faster
it's like HD vs UHD

[coarse gulch]

Oh I see, do you have the same metric for 125hz too?

(please do not ask why, I swear the Leopold FC750R Navy is a cool keyboard, just an elderly one)

[cunning gust]

it's logorithmic i believe

only have to 1k 125hz would be probably noticable

[jade widget]

125hz is trash on a mouse I can tell you that, probably less noticeable on a keyboard

[wild leaf]

[coarse gulch]

125hz max latency (if you barely missed poll) is 8ms, I can see a 8ms discrepancy fucking some very precise input

The max on 1000 is 1ms, I'd assume that's fine for the highest of competitive scenarios

[cunning gust]

2k is about the point of pointlessness for me

[valid comet]

arent like all "8k" boards on the market super slow for being "8k"? I think this is the first time where we will see an 8k board get a promising result

or am i really stupid and im missing some other factors

[valid comet]

what device

[tiny tartan]

honestly i have no clue lmfao
i'm just buying wooting because of their reputation for being the best

[valid comet]

same and because they are super cool, nerdy ,and want to talk about keyboards, tech, and science

like its genuinely hard for me to see a critical flaw in my experience with the people here

theyre very cool

Calder was fun to talk to

[jade widget]

that's because this board not only just has 8k polling it also has 8k scan rate

most 8k boards are doing 4k scan at most

[valid comet]

iirc my k70 tkl rgb is 4k scan 8k poll, effectively updating only 4,000 times

but yet it says the delay was about 1.7ms or something

on RTINGS, idk how they get their results or methodology

[prisma imp]

can someone explain how rappy snappy works for a game like valorant or csgo where counter strafing is important?

I couldn’t really understand from the description on how it works

[valid comet]

you can hold your a button halfway down, and spam your d key and that will count as a perfect counterstrafe

here is from my understanding, A key is the blue, and D key is the red

[prisma imp]

ok thanks

[valid comet]

i think I screwed up the graph and signs

[prisma imp]

do you know when this is going to be available for 60he?

[valid comet]

but generally speaking this is the main idea (should be available for closed beta soon)

[upbeat berry]

125hz is very noticable on keyboards if you play rythm games for example

[jade widget]

i can imagine it's unplayable on a mouse

[lethal kite]

will I get the white cable if i ordered the frost case?

[pseudo parrot]

mx master

[bleak vale]

hey will order upgrades be available with more than just keycaps soon?

[buoyant solstice]

If you email us asking to change things, yes

Not everything will be possible via the hub.

[bleak vale]

no I mean like, addons

the wristrest for example

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. So did I.

[bleak vale]

ok but why are there only keycaps on the upgrade page?

[buoyant solstice]

Because it hasn't been retooled for the 80HE

[bleak vale]

I see I see

[winged pelican]

whoa the removable feet is something unexpected. cool 😄

also a good idea to go this route instead of the standard legs since they might snap due to the weight

it's gonna be fugly on my white case so i'll prob not use it, or have it on when i have guests 😆 still, good to have options

[floral hare]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-26861291

waiting for that early august to arrive

[daring axle]

if they're including feet on it, safe to assume that they've tested to make sure they're beefy enough to withstand whatever weight the board is going to put on them.

[buoyant solstice]

They're referring to kickstands.

[tidal prawn]

I am a bit on the fence. I did make my order, and I liked the ghost plastic case, and was thinking I can order the zinc later if I wish to swap up. Then I send edit request to swap the zinc alloy case instead of the plastic one. Mostly I guess I am just unsure. So far I answered "WAIT" because I am not in a rush to make the change, and I did not yet feel like cancelling and directly making a new order. Because if the plastic after all feels nice enough and it feels like it's of good quality and durable, I might not "need" to go for the zinc one at all. I do assume that zinc cases are well enough available separately all to all. And my order would be in around early september with current estimations, anyway...

Also, I guess I should ask - will a custom usb a - usb c cable work? Is usb 2.0 enough for the bandwidth requirements of the 80HE or is it 3.0 required at least?

[azure oar]

I've never had a keyboard with a metal case, this is a first for me

granted, it's probably not worth the extra $100 or whatever but fuck it we ball

[dim sierra]

yes u can buy the zinc case separately, custom cable may or may not work depending on the quality, usb 2.0 is good enough

[dim sierra]

yeah its preference, i have been using metal kb cases for the last 8 years or so

[tidal prawn]

Yeah it's just preference and feel. And sound too of course. Got to see how the cable fares. I hope they work fine, as I would like to use these.

[dim sierra]

Yeah i hope my cable works too since it works fine for the 60he 💀

[oak jungle]

guys jade is lighter than lekker 45 or they are the same but they sound dif ?

[dim sierra]

I think it’s lighter

[wild leaf]

I pre-ordered Wooting 80he on 5/6, but when I look at the order history on my website account, I also received a card approval text message, but it says that I haven't ordered any products yet. When can I see my order history?

[dim sierra]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/orders
cant see here?

[wild leaf]

Yeah

[oak jungle]

I ordered it today and doesn't not show immediately

[dim sierra]

same email as when u bought?

did u get an email for the order?

[wild leaf]

I also sent an inquiry email

[wild leaf]

Yes

[dim sierra]

did u receive the order confirmed email? if yes might have to wait for staff to help

[wild leaf]

If you're referring to an email about an order, do you mean an email confirming that the order has been completed?

[dim sierra]

Order (order number) confirmed, confirming that the order has been confirmed

[wild leaf]

I'm going to keep waiting for now

[dim sierra]

where is mansen

[buoyant solstice]

Mansen is enjoying his holiday.

[wild leaf]

Maybe it's because the Wooting 80he product hasn't been released yet, so there's a lot of work to be done?

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[dim sierra]

[buoyant solstice]

If you didn't receive a confirmation email, the email you used on checkout is not the one you think it is. Either there'a a typo, or you used an express checkout option that automatically picks the email from that service.

You can email us at [e-mail] for help, but we'll need you to include the full name and the shipping address of the order.

[meager quail]

if you just ordered it takes a little bit of time

[buoyant solstice]

But not days - which OP already said it was.

[wild leaf]

The correct answer was that the service automatically selected the email. I accessed one of my multiple emails and was able to check my order details. So, I created a new Wooting website account using the email address that received the order. Thank you for your reply, management!

[buoyant solstice]

[quasi crater]

Will the ghost case have the white LED bar?

[meager quail]

who knows probably

[cunning gust]

does the keycap set come with a regular key to replace the wooting key or no?

[pseudo parrot]

mine didn’t

don’t think it does

[cunning gust]

That's slightly annoying but not a huge deal i guess

[pseudo parrot]

i’ll probably get a third party set personally but yea i get it

[buoyant solstice]

You get exactly what you see.

We do not provide OS specific keycaps.

[cunning gust]

thanks, was just asking because i saw it came with a handfull of other caps

[lost charm]

Whatup!! I just placed my pre-order. 😄

[buoyant solstice]

[lost charm]

I have a custom KBD75 and I'm stoked, don't like full sized KBs and 60% isn't enough for me

[dusky tiger]

welcome to the team

[lost charm]

Are we the cool kids?

Ooh there is an 80HR role? 😮

[meager tide]

I pre ordered the wooting 80HE but I’ve moved address. Is there anyway to change the delivery address?

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account
Sure

[tidal sleet]

I pre ordered the 80he but Im wondering if it will fit the same keycaps as the 60he does

[tight cypress]

Yup, the same standard - cross mx stem, 6.25u spacebar, 1.25u bottom row

[tidal sleet]

ok, lesgo, cause I wanna buy the hipyo coffee shop keycaps

[tight cypress]

Yup, they'll fit just fine

[icy cosmos]

You’re not in the cool kids club until you get the blue colour

[lost charm]

I know, @buoyant solstice can you hook me up daddy?

[buoyant solstice]

the duck

[lost charm]

I can send my order # and all that

ily

[buoyant solstice]

I have no idea what's going on

[cunning gust]

if i combine the 60 and the 80 would it make a 140 or a 137.5

[tight violet]

You'd get a wooting70

[cunning gust]

🧠

on average you are probably right

[oblique lichen]

It's a 80HE Founders campaign perk. If you just pre-ordered = missed the founder campaign and the perk.

[lost charm]

Aw man 😭

Oh whale

[cosmic dome]

Pretty sure you can link your discord on the wooting hub and it'll assign roles automatically

[lost charm]

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

[cosmic dome]

Whatever ones you have available ofc

[stuck atlas]

the 80he wait is killing meeeee 😭

[lost charm]

Yeah it is gonna drag for sure

[thorny harbor]

hey there

does the switches of the 80he work on the 60he ?

[pseudo parrot]

yep, they will work on all hall effect wooting boards and also will be available for purchase at some point

[thorny harbor]

thank you <3.

[valid comet]

truly

welcome to the club

[pseudo parrot]

i kinda forgot i ordered one

[valid comet]

all switches and boards that were HE by wooting are all KS-20 compatible or some variant, so hopefully this helps :)

another thing that wooting should do I feel is determine what magnetic flux values are best for each board

maybe this is taking things a bit too far but I would like to know if this is important

[thorny harbor]

wdym?

[valid comet]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779
the original magflux on this is weaker than jades it appears

but i dunno what that means

[cunning gust]

Gateron isn't exactly an english company

I wouldn't bother wondering what random terms on their site mean

[valid comet]

magnetic flux isnt "random" it means something

[cunning gust]

and it isn't measured in Gs

well it can be but it shouldn't be

[thorny harbor]

actully guys i tried switches for my 60he and i think i feel delay with the movements on the game

but the switches sounds really well thocky

i think the delay because the magnet

the switches : https://ar.aliexpress.com/item/1005006833239717.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.64596bdaLsIs7A&algo_pvid=eea5ed15-7202-4c9f-be49-2f7f315a8227&algo_exp_id=eea5ed15-7202-4c9f-be49-2f7f315a8227-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis!SAR!97.04!67.93!!!25.20!17.64!%402103297517152989751303320e90c5!12000038449148851!sea!SA!1992764528!&curPageLogUid=RpD69lL8R1ch&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[valid comet]

but as the consumer, you should know what youre getting, and im glad wooting is providing flux specs on their switches and resold jade packs on their site

[thorny harbor]

yea exactly

[valid comet]

so if the lekker switches are built around their boards for optimal performance and they also approve of the jades, then both are fine

[thorny harbor]

i ordered the jades actully and am excited to try it

[valid comet]

as for 3rd party switches you are risking a difference in magnetic flux (initial and bottom out)

[thorny harbor]

u should hear a sound test and then u will change ur opinion

[valid comet]

i mean I got the prebuilt L60, free L45s and 90x jades from the wooting site

i like the sound of tge pre prod units and the jades, theyre all very nice :)

[thorny harbor]

i have the raptor he and heijen and the heijen is very good sounding but as i told u so there is a little bit delay

check the dm i'll send u sound test

[valid comet]

im using the Gateron Nebula HE KS-37B on my Q1 HE, and so far so good

iirc this is a TMR (Tunnel Magneto Resisitive) board by technicality

but it much behaves like an HE board

[thorny harbor]

what do u think on the performance in games

[valid comet]

i mostly play geometry dash, genshin and trackmania

i was thinking of trying a bit of osu again when I get a better input device

but my main is gd, and a 0.4mm deadzone and RT is insane

[jagged owl]

Yo random question for anybody that could answer for me, does a 8khz keeb like the 80he require more cpu usage or is it only for a 8k mouse

[lament saffron]

No additional CPU power usage needed (it doesn't scan the same way a mouse does)

[jagged owl]

thanks Pops

[wispy trellis]

can we get some info on the gasket? i mean how bouncy it will be? as example q1 with double gasket is super bouncy while azoth keaboard has a gasket only in name.. it literly shows no bounce at all eventhough its gasket mountet

[lament saffron]

What metric should we use to measure the amount of bounciness?

Also, for whatever the metric is you use, please provide it for the boards you mentioned and I'll see if I can get you the same measurements to compare.

[wispy trellis]

well does it bounce and strongly or a bit 😛 that's the most bouncy keyboard i know like i meantione azoth gsked doeent bounce at all as example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXoT3bfRPOQ

[lament saffron]

Hmmm are you sure he didn't apply more pressure to one board vs the other? Can you ask him how much force he applied for the test? Specifically how many newtons, which is equal to 1 kg*m/sec2.

[idle depot]

So the only difference between the two lekkars are the spring right? If that’s the case then if you buy the spring packs you can basically create a custom lekkar in a sense?

[toxic zephyr]

yes

[vague prism]

o

[tribal birch]

do the 60HE prebuilt switches need to be lubed or do they come good

[jade widget]

stock lubing is already decent, I wouldn't worry about it

[tribal birch]

does the 60HE ever go on sale

[jade widget]

nope

[modest gale]

isn’t it on sale on the website rn?

[jade widget]

it's on sale as in it's in stock to buy but not at a discounted price

[modest gale]

ohh

[tribal birch]

ight buying it rn

[icy cosmos]

You can use a “Shore A” scale is most commonly used for measuring the hardness of rubbers . Depending on the sensitivity you should be able to get a measurement.

And for the bounce.. a drop test like the one you see in this video can be used. But since your fingers aren’t going to bounce off a keyboard I don’t really know if it’s going to affect your typing that much? Logically, a softer gasket should perform better than one with more bounce due to less force applied? Imagine having dual compound gaskets to tune the feel🤣 . https://youtu.be/tkscolntQaY?si=pk-KULDCURknJhtO

[modest gale]

do we know how long pre orders will be available for the 80he?

[pseudo parrot]

they won’t stop taking pre orders / orders in general for any board as long as they’re not discontinued

[icy cosmos]

You mean Wooting is not selling limited edition with raffles of low production keyboards 😌

[modest gale]

what about the discounts that are available for the 80he rn

how long will those last

[pseudo parrot]

what discounts

oh module stuff?

[modest gale]

yeah

[icy cosmos]

The Discord 0% discount

[pseudo parrot]

only for the cool kids

[icy cosmos]

You’ve missed that train bro

[pseudo parrot]

i’m not sure but if we look at the 60he module discounts for keycaps and switches etc are still there so i guess they won’t go away? not sure tho

[modest gale]

no it’s still there

[tribal birch]

imma have to look into cool keycaps for the 60HE

[modest gale]

these are the discounts i’m talking about

[tight cypress]

Those are discounts you get while ordering 60HE or 80HE module
They're here to stay for foreseeable future

[modest gale]

oooo

i might just order the 60he for now

if that’s the case

[tribal birch]

thats what i did

if i like the 60HE i might pre order the 80

[modest gale]

wait isn’t there a case that’s compatible with the 60he, it’s called like Tofu 60 or something?

[lime aspen]

Yeah tofu redux

Here's my 60he in a tofu